--- Log for 06.05.105  Server: brown.freenode.net  Channel: #rockbox
--- Nick: logbot  Version: Dancer V4.16  Started: 16 days and 15 hours ago

00.00.21 #       <amiconn> thegeek: No hold button, and few buttons in general
00.00.24 #       <LinusN> preglow: up for a test?
00.00.35 #       <preglow> LinusN: of course
00.00.37 #       <thegeek> ah
00.00.39 #       <thegeek> that sucks;)
00.01.03 #       <amiconn> l/r/u/d, with r doubling as 'play', a mode button, and an on/off button
00.01.12 #       <LinusN> in crt0.S change the %cacr write from 0x80000000 to 0x80000300
00.01.27 #       <LinusN> this changes the default cache settings from off to on
00.01.41 #       <LinusN> in case i screwd up the ACRx settings
00.01.52 #       <preglow> okie
00.01.56 #       * rasher crosses any available limb
00.02.34 #       <LinusN> the %acr0 setting *looks* ok, but...
00.03.40 #       <thegeek> LinusN : you getting a h320 == you making a bootloader for it?
00.03.58 #       <LinusN> that's the plan
00.04.02 #       <thegeek> :)
00.04.31 #       <thegeek> did you use your own money?
00.04.33 #       <LinusN> don't hold your breath though, i'm a very busy man
00.04.33 #       <thegeek> if so
00.04.41 #       <LinusN> i used the donated money
00.04.43 #       <thegeek> ah
00.04.44 #       <thegeek> good
00.04.53 #       <thegeek> :(
00.04.54 #       <thegeek> I mean
00.04.55 #       <thegeek> :)
00.04.55 DBUG    Enqueued KICK thegeek
00.04.55 #       <thegeek> ;)
00.05.27 #       <preglow> LinusN: same results
00.05.36 #       <LinusN> figures
00.06.02 #       <preglow> i don't really expect the cache settings to be wrong
00.06.10 #       <LinusN> me neither :-)
00.06.26 #       <LinusN> is the source still on your web server?
00.06.33 #       <preglow> i _really_ noticed a difference back when you switched it on
00.06.43 #       <preglow> http://glow.m0f0.net/rockbox/imdct_mcf5249.S
00.07.14 #       <LinusN> great, i might have a look next time i'm running the bdm
00.07.21 #       <LinusN> gotta go now
00.07.23 #       <preglow> ok
00.07.24 #       <preglow> later
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00.08.07 #       <amiconn> Bagder: For the FM/v2, holding 'On' could work. This has no function in the browser, and in the wps this calls the pitch screen, which shouldn't be a problem
00.08.47 #       <amiconn> On the Ondio it's a ral problem...
00.08.48 #       <Bagder> on? it toggles between the WPS and the browser
00.08.59 #       <Bagder> doesn't it?
00.08.59 #       <amiconn> Hold 'On'
00.09.05 #       <Bagder> ah, ok
00.09.11 #       <amiconn> Short 'On' does the toggle
00.10.00 #       <amiconn> There's a bug in the settings handling I don't know how to solve
00.10.23 #       <amiconn> The settings are only saved when leaving the menu
00.10.51 #       <amiconn> ...which isn't a problem on the v1 recorder, because safe shutdown requires to leave the menu anyway
00.11.25 #       <amiconn> However, on FM, v2, and Ondio this isn't required, and on the player it's even better not to leave the menu
00.11.37 #       <amiconn> ...because safe shutdown is a menu option
00.12.58 #       <amiconn> Safe shutdown does save the config sector, but the config sector doesn't get updated
00.13.27 #       <amiconn> On the other hand, it would be a bad idea to always update the config sector before shutdown
00.13.58 #       <amiconn> ...because this would always cause a spinup, even if nothing's changed
00.18.39 #       <preglow> blarghh
00.18.51 #       <preglow> loop in iram does indeed make quite a bit of difference
00.19.10 #       <HCl> ?
00.19.20 #       <preglow> why the shell should this be so
00.20.13 #       <HCl> sounds like a cache problem..
00.20.40 #       <preglow> yes, but the cache does indeed seem to be configured correctly
00.23.10 #       <HCl> sounds hopeful :)
00.25.03 #       <preglow> why, yes
00.25.13 #       <preglow> but i still refuse to believe this sleek, nice, lovely code can be slow
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00.39.26 #       <preglow> ahhh, a crashing rockbox
00.40.15 #       <preglow> now this IS interesting
00.41.13 #       <rasher> progress or weirdness?
00.42.35 #       <preglow> i THINK i've disabled the cache
00.42.38 #       <preglow> and i can see now difference
00.42.46 #       <preglow> but i probably haven't disabled the cache, heh
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00.44.55 #       <t0mas> good night
00.46.07 #       <preglow> it most certainly boots slower
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01.03.11 #       <cool2bdave> Hi I am trying to Setup either Cygwin or the Rockbox Development kit (Blue Chip)
01.03.37 #       <cool2bdave> I have installed Both and sh-elf-gcc in Cygwin
01.03.44 #       <cool2bdave> it says it is not found
01.07.46 #       <Bagder> when you do what?
01.07.46 #       <cool2bdave> I have installed sh-elf-gcc-3.4.3-EL-1.tar.bz2 gcc-ada-3.3.5.tar.bz2 sh-elf-binutils-2.15-EL-1.tar.bz2 binutils-2.16.tar.gz in Cygwin
01.08.19 #       <cool2bdave> configure and make
01.09.01 #       <Bagder> and your path contains the dir for the compiler and tools?
01.11.30 #       <cool2bdave> I am new to the Cygwin game, what do you mean by path
01.12.20 #       <Bagder> the path is the list of dirs the system checks when you entered a command
01.12.35 #       <Bagder> windows has the path concept as well
01.12.45 #       <Bagder> echo $PATH
01.12.51 #       <Bagder> in cygwin should display it
01.14.40 #       <cool2bdave> In s it the place where command prompt keeps its excecutables
01.14.56 #       <cool2bdave> (In windows)
01.15.09 #       <Bagder> no, it is the same thing in windows
01.15.17 #       <Bagder> the list of dirs it checks when you type a command name
01.15.32 #       <Bagder> commands being excutables
01.15.55 #       <cool2bdave> right
01.16.52 #       <Bagder> but cygwin uses its own path, separate from windows (of course)
01.23.09 #       * Bagder &
01.26.59 #       <cool2bdave> WHere do I change it and what should it include
01.29.08 #       <rasher> you change it by doing something like PATH=/path/number1:/path/number2:$PATH (adds number1 and 2 to the current value)
01.29.28 #       <rasher> it should include the dir where the binaries of gcc are
01.29.33 #       <rasher> sh-elf-gcc, that is
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01.41.52 #       <preglow> gah
01.41.53 #       <preglow> me off
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01.55.16 #       <herrprof> hi
01.55.38 #       <HCl> : goes to sleep
01.55.41 #       <HCl> *goes to sleep*
01.55.42 #       <HCl> i mean
01.58.36 #       <HCl> gnight
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02.16.04 #       <cool2bdave> I tried PATH=/cygwin/gcc-3.3.5/gcc/ada:$PATH
02.16.21 #       <cool2bdave> (Sorry my other half needed the computer)
02.17.31 #       <cool2bdave> It didnt work
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02.33.31 #       <cool2bdave> Bed time I will try 2morrow to fix the path
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09.20.07 #       <rasher> so many feature requests..
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09.23.12 #       <webguest52> hey guys!
09.23.36 #       <webguest52> Does anyone know something about the release date of rockbox 2.5?
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09.25.06 #       <webguest52> no one?
09.27.47 #       <odd> pssh
09.27.55 #       <odd> like anyone in here would know the first thing about rockbox
09.28.05 #       <odd> cmon, where's your head?
09.28.06 #       <odd> ;p
09.29.38 #       <webguest52> ?
09.30.23 #       <webguest52> so is it near or somewhere in far away future?
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09.31.24 #       <LinusN> webguest52: it isn't planned
09.31.57 #       <LinusN> we'll release 2.5 when we feel that it is stable enough
09.34.57 #       <webguest52> yeah i know that
09.35.12 #       <webguest52> but, isnt there anything you can say about it?
09.35.22 #       <webguest52> i mean, how stable are the nightlies?
09.36.02 #       <webguest52> is there a roadmap what will be in 2.5?
09.36.11 #       <webguest52> i cant find one on the page
09.36.35 #       <webguest52> there was some info till what will come with next version but only until 2.4
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11.22.49 #       <preglow> LinusN: would zeroing CACR, ACR0 and ACR1 disable the cache? i figured that to be the case, but nothing much happened when i tried
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12.33.47 #       <PuckNeo> hi
12.34.17 #       <PuckNeo> does anyone know how to solve problems with an av420?
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12.43.22 #       <t0mas> hm... av420 is a new one right?
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12.43.43 #       <t0mas> video player?
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12.52.08 #       <MoosCamaro> hey all
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12.54.29 #       <t0mas> hi
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13.04.13 #       <PuckNeo> yup
13.04.33 #       <t0mas> what's wrong with it?
13.04.44 #       <PuckNeo> my bro pulled the usb plug and the shit hitachi disc 
13.04.55 #       <PuckNeo> corrupted all the files
13.05.04 #       <PuckNeo> i am desparate
13.05.05 #       <PuckNeo> :P
13.05.08 #       <t0mas> hm... pulled while writing?
13.05.18 #       <PuckNeo> i think
13.05.24 #       <PuckNeo> i saw it later on
13.05.31 #       <t0mas> you can still connect it to your pc?
13.05.37 #       <PuckNeo> yup
13.05.41 #       <PuckNeo> but the thing is 
13.05.44 #       <t0mas> only you can't read files?
13.05.46 #       <PuckNeo> that it was full
13.05.50 #       <PuckNeo> yes
13.05.59 #       <t0mas> let me guess... important data?
13.06.04 #       <PuckNeo> yup
13.06.05 #       <PuckNeo> lol
13.06.11 #       <PuckNeo> mostly mp3s
13.06.17 #       <t0mas> hmz...
13.06.18 #       <PuckNeo> but with no backup
13.06.22 #       <PuckNeo> :(
13.06.26 #       <t0mas> maybe try some data recovery tool?
13.06.34 #       <t0mas> (linux?)
13.06.38 #       <PuckNeo> nah
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13.06.44 #       <PuckNeo> winshit
13.06.45 #       <PuckNeo> :D
13.06.56 #       <PuckNeo> i know what to do
13.06.57 #       <PuckNeo> but
13.07.00 #       <t0mas> hmm... tried chkdsk ?
13.07.10 #       <PuckNeo> yeap and defrag
13.07.14 #       <PuckNeo> nothing...
13.07.24 #       <t0mas> can't read a single file??
13.07.51 #       <HCl> thats a bit odd, wth were you doing with the disk when it got plugged out?
13.07.53 #       <PuckNeo> the thing is that the archos holds it;s setting into files that were corrupted
13.08.05 #       <PuckNeo> :9
13.08.08 #       <t0mas> so it won't boot?
13.08.12 #       <PuckNeo> +the help file
13.08.15 #       <PuckNeo> it does boot 
13.08.33 #       <t0mas> have you tested it on an other pc?
13.08.33 #       <PuckNeo> but when i try to put for ex the right time
13.08.42 #       <PuckNeo> yes the same
13.08.50 #       <PuckNeo> but when i try to put for ex the right time
13.09.03 #       <PuckNeo> and restart it
13.09.17 #       <PuckNeo> it doesnt hold the time i just set :(
13.09.33 #       <PuckNeo> so i was wondering if anyone has an av420
13.09.45 #       <PuckNeo> so can send me the data files zipped 
13.09.57 #       <t0mas> hm... you have 2 things you can do... 1. get a data recovery tool and try to repair the disk. 2. send it to archos, and ask them what's wrong
13.09.58 #       <PuckNeo> to format the disc and putt
13.10.07 #       <PuckNeo> 2.
13.10.07 #       <t0mas> don't tell them what you did to it
13.10.38 #       <t0mas> of and 3. just format it
13.10.43 #       <t0mas> and see what happens
13.10.46 #       <PuckNeo> 2. the second is out of the question cause they do about a 1,5 month to fix it and i really need it
13.11.05 #       <PuckNeo> i had an jukebox recorder
13.11.07 #       <t0mas> well... then I suggest 1 and if it fails 3
13.11.17 #       <PuckNeo> what prog 
13.11.23 #       <PuckNeo> do you know any?
13.11.25 #       <t0mas> don't know one for linux...
13.11.29 #       <t0mas> eh windows
13.11.29 #       <PuckNeo> i was thinking acronis
13.11.38 #       * t0mas googles :)
13.11.40 #       <PuckNeo> disc something
13.11.41 #       <PuckNeo> :P
13.12.09 #       <PuckNeo> the problem is that if i format the disc
13.12.17 #       <PuckNeo> it will still be the same
13.12.26 #       <PuckNeo> cause i will not have the data files
13.12.29 #       <PuckNeo> :(
13.12.44 #       <t0mas> hmm? I guess it will create the files?
13.12.53 #       <t0mas> or email archos support for them?
13.13.10 #       <PuckNeo> i emailed  them 5days ago 
13.13.19 #       <PuckNeo> and they still havent replied 
13.13.24 #       <PuckNeo> :'(
13.13.29 #       <t0mas> no, but I guess they're not working this week
13.13.36 #       <PuckNeo> y?
13.13.43 #       <PuckNeo> :P
13.14.01 #       <PuckNeo> i think they are to lousy to read english emails
13.14.10 #       <PuckNeo> english writen
13.14.10 #       <PuckNeo> :P
13.14.25 #       <t0mas> don't know... where's archos from?
13.14.29 #       <t0mas> japan? germany?
13.14.30 #       <PuckNeo> france
13.14.33 #       <PuckNeo> :P
13.14.35 #       <t0mas> aaaah
13.14.39 #       <t0mas> that explains a lot :P
13.14.50 #       <t0mas> ask some french guy here to help you with a french email?
13.14.50 #       <PuckNeo> noo
13.14.55 #       <PuckNeo> :P
13.15.11 #       <PuckNeo> the hitachi shitty disc does this things
13.15.18 #       <PuckNeo> i never liked hitachi
13.15.19 #       <PuckNeo> :P
13.15.27 #       <t0mas> no, the uses did it :P
13.15.31 #       <t0mas> *user
13.15.34 #       <PuckNeo> :PPP
13.15.36 #       <PuckNeo> ok
13.16.11 #       <t0mas> but I'm away again... have to continue working
13.16.12 #       <t0mas> good luck
13.16.17 #       <PuckNeo> i just used google translator
13.16.29 #       <PuckNeo> to write to a french forum
13.16.29 #       <PuckNeo> :P
13.16.31 #       <PuckNeo> ok
13.16.33 #       <PuckNeo> ciao
13.16.42 #       <PuckNeo> ty for your help
13.17.00 #       <MoosCamaro> hi PuckNeo, i'm french
13.17.12 #       <PuckNeo> lol
13.17.43 #       <t0mas> lot of french people here :)
13.17.46 #       <MoosCamaro> what french forum is?
13.17.50 #       <PuckNeo> do you have an archos product?
13.17.58 #       <PuckNeo> lets start with this
13.17.59 #       <MoosCamaro> nah iriver
13.18.04 #       <PuckNeo> ok
13.18.05 #       <PuckNeo> then 
13.18.10 #       <PuckNeo> so you can't help
13.18.11 #       <PuckNeo> :PPP
13.18.20 #       <MoosCamaro> sorry
13.18.21 #       <PuckNeo> i am having a prob 
13.18.31 #       <PuckNeo> with the av420 
13.18.37 #       <PuckNeo> a disc problem
13.18.42 #       <MoosCamaro> ah ok
13.19.06 #       <t0mas> iriver support is pretty fast...
13.19.08 #       <t0mas> :P
13.19.14 #       <PuckNeo> ty all
13.19.15 #       <PuckNeo> :P
13.19.21 #       <MoosCamaro> wait and see if amiconn can help you when he can
13.19.35 #       <PuckNeo> i thought of that
13.19.41 #       <PuckNeo> thats y i came
13.19.42 #       <PuckNeo> :P
13.19.49 #       <t0mas> PuckNeo: you can also email your local archos importer?  
13.20.04 #       <PuckNeo> nah they are completely IDIOTS
13.20.05 #       <PuckNeo> :P
13.20.06 #       <t0mas> I guess they speak your language...
13.20.15 #       <PuckNeo> hahaah
13.33.52 #       <DMJC> fucked up english?
13.34.12 #       <DMJC> hehehe the third english most people know
13.34.30 #       <DMJC> american english, british english, fucked up/bad english
13.34.35 #       <MoosCamaro> :)
13.35.05 #       <DMJC> eeew... firefox
13.35.16 #       <DMJC> does back to epiphany..
13.35.21 #       <DMJC> *goed
13.35.23 #       <DMJC> *goes
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14.20.40 #       <HCl> gee. it seems as if windows mobile actually made people program properly again without code being bloated..
14.22.56 #       <t0mas> eh?
14.23.01 #       <t0mas> are we talking about microsoft?
14.23.13 #       <t0mas> or thirdparty software?
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14.43.37 #       <HCl> both.
14.43.51 #       <HCl> there's a full version of worms for my phone
14.43.53 #       <HCl> in only 4mb
14.44.19 #       <HCl> makes me wonder wth the pc version was 200mb
14.44.47 #       <t0mas> well... the graphics are smaller
14.44.53 #       <t0mas> the sound quality is lower...
14.44.54 #       <HCl> no
14.44.57 #       <t0mas> it has only one language?
14.45.01 #       <t0mas> that kind of things?
14.45.04 #       <HCl> probably
14.45.05 #       <HCl> but still.
14.45.14 #       <t0mas> and the pc version contained some bloated movies
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15.32.26 #       <HCl> well one thing is for sure
15.32.32 #       <HCl> windows mobile is just as crappy as normal windows
15.32.44 #       <HCl> my mobile got disconnected halfway during a file upload
15.32.49 #       <HCl> and now it permanently lost 2mb of flash
15.32.52 #       <HCl>  -.-
15.33.16 #       * HCl goes shopping..
15.50.59 #       <t0mas> :X
15.51.01 #       <t0mas> weird
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16.45.30 #       <HCl> yea, fortunately, unlike normal windows, this one has a master reset that cleans everything out.
16.46.13 #       * HCl resumes shopping.
16.47.16 #       <DMJC> shopping?
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17.02.59 #       <austriancoder> hi
17.03.37 #       <austriancoder> can somebody tell me, what tool was used to generate the ascii-rockbox-logo in the source code?
17.04.46 #       <t0mas> google for ascii art convertor
17.04.49 #       <t0mas> or something like it
17.04.56 #       <t0mas> I used it a few days ago...
17.05.21 #       <t0mas> http://www.network-science.de/ascii/
17.05.22 #       <t0mas> there
17.05.27 #       <t0mas> you can generate them
17.06.28 #       <austriancoder> thanks - looks fine
17.11.41 #       <amiconn> hi LinusN
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17.27.49 #       <HCl> DMJC: oh, is that movie out yet?
17.30.31 #       <HCl> guess not
18.14.15 #       <DMJC> the movie isn't
18.14.20 #       <DMJC> the soundtrack apparently is..
18.15.49 #       <HCl> i see.
18.16.47 #       <DMJC> good music too..
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20.53.28 #       <amiconn> LinusN ??
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21.26.54 #       <amiconn> mrf
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22.24.17 #       <amiconn> Good evening Jörg
22.24.26 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Hello Jens
22.24.55 #       <[IDC]Dragon> wet concrete greetings
22.25.13 #       <[IDC]Dragon> (we have a basement since today)
22.25.14 #       <amiconn> ?
22.25.19 #       <amiconn> Ah :)
22.28.53 #       <[IDC]Dragon> still no effect with -ffunction-sections -fdata-sections in the lib :-(
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22.29.21 #       <amiconn> I just tried that
22.29.44 #       <amiconn> For me, it compiles everything into separate sections, firmware as well as apps
22.29.51 #       <[IDC]Dragon> wow
22.30.02 #       <amiconn> Now I have a 4 GB rombox.bin
22.30.07 #       <[IDC]Dragon> ;-)
22.30.16 #       <amiconn> (I didn't adjust rom.lds yet)
22.30.28 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I could start to check stuff in
22.30.35 #       <amiconn> lookm at your pm, btw
22.31.13 #       <[IDC]Dragon> yessir
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22.43.38 #       <[IDC]Dragon> amiconn: about the compile options, what did you do different?
22.44.15 #       <amiconn> I just added --function-sections and -fdata-sections  to EXTRA_DEFINES
22.44.24 #       <[IDC]Dragon> me too
22.44.32 #       <amiconn> (to the Makefile in the build dir)
22.45.09 #       * [IDC]Dragon gets a clue
22.45.49 #       <amiconn> All rockbox functions (both apps and librockbox) get split into individual sections, only the gcc lib does not (of course)
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22.46.52 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I changed only the app makefile
22.47.10 #       <[IDC]Dragon> well, the one in my new application dir
22.47.37 #       <[IDC]Dragon> so the configure script will have to do this
22.48.09 #       <amiconn> I'm trying this just to find out whether there's significant dead code
22.48.36 #       <amiconn> I tried disabling the debug functions I mentioned last time
22.48.43 #       <amiconn> ...with sup
22.48.53 #       <amiconn> *surprisingly little effect
22.48.59 #       <[IDC]Dragon> :-(
22.49.21 #       <amiconn> This saves about 2 KB on player, and 1 KB on recorder
22.49.33 #       <[IDC]Dragon> better than nothing
22.53.24 #       <[IDC]Dragon> now I get all my sections, and it links OK
22.53.33 #       <[IDC]Dragon> but is not smaller :-(
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22.54.15 #       <amiconn> Main rockbox gets ~5 KB smaller when linking with --gc-sections
22.54.51 #       <[IDC]Dragon> interesting, I wonder from where
22.55.00 #       <amiconn> Would be interesting to know what the linker throws away
22.55.58 #       <[IDC]Dragon> maybe you can diff the map
22.56.10 #       <[IDC]Dragon> with and w/o --gc-sections
22.56.43 #       <amiconn> Btw, w/o --gc-sections, it gets a tiny bit larger than without splitting into sections
22.56.59 #       <amiconn> (probably due to section alignment)
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22.58.55 #       <amiconn> diff'ing doesn't help much due to the differing addresses
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23.02.16 #       <[IDC]Dragon> looking in more detail, bootbox gets ~10 KB smaller
23.02.33 #       <[IDC]Dragon> let's settle with that
23.02.40 #       <amiconn> Now it's only 2KB
23.03.02 #       <amiconn> It needs to keep the vectors, which in turn seems to re-add some code
23.03.24 #       <[IDC]Dragon> what's different now?
23.03.52 #       <amiconn> Explicit KEEP(*(.vectors));  in app.lds
23.03.55 #       <Slasheri> Hmm, the function call: button = button_get_w_tmo(HZ/2); in debug_menu.c will crash iriver when playing sample.wav. Without that everything works fine
23.06.52 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I ment your 5KB vs. 2KB, which you said is the vectors
23.07.25 #       <[IDC]Dragon> forget the last line
23.07.32 #       <amiconn> Without that explicit KEEP(), the linker garbage-collected the vectors away
23.07.51 #       <amiconn> ..which in turn lead to more code being eliminated
23.08.04 #       <amiconn> (probably stuff that gets called by the vectors)
23.08.19 #       <amiconn> But without the vectors in place, rockbox won't work
23.08.33 #       <[IDC]Dragon> sounds like definitely  non-working
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23.12.11 #       <Tang> fucking trillian
23.12.13 #       <Tang> :o
23.12.21 #       <Tang> back to chatzilla
23.12.27 #       <Tang> easier to configure
23.12.57 #       <[IDC]Dragon> try zaphod or marvin ;-)
23.14.32 #       <HCl> lol
23.14.50 #       <[IDC]Dragon> amiconn: my vectors also needed rescue, now only ~2KB savings
23.15.13 #       <amiconn> It's quite an impressive list of unused functions...
23.15.34 #       <[IDC]Dragon> for bootbox, there should be a lot of dead code
23.15.46 #       <Tang> zaphod?
23.15.48 #       <[IDC]Dragon> like disk writing, etc.
23.16.04 #       <Tang> hello
23.16.11 #       <MoosCamaro> hi Tang
23.16.19 #       <Tang> (thought there will be noone)
23.16.21 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Tang: other Hichhikers Guide characters
23.16.27 #       <Tang> Hi Miooos
23.17.13 #       <MoosCamaro> Tang: pv
23.17.25 #       <Tang> okay
23.17.50 #       <[IDC]Dragon> frustrating, this section linking
23.19.03 #       <amiconn> Why?
23.19.15 #       <[IDC]Dragon> minor gain
23.19.16 #       <amiconn> Btw, I found 17 unused functions in a recorder build...
23.19.32 #       <[IDC]Dragon> how do you identify them?
23.19.52 #       <amiconn> .map (gc) and .map (no-gc) side-by-side
23.21.32 #       * [IDC]Dragon rebuilds
23.24.10 #       <amiconn> 2 unused variables
23.24.13 #       <[IDC]Dragon> didn't help
23.24.23 #       * HCl yawns
23.24.30 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I changed the compile options, too
23.24.45 #       <[IDC]Dragon> you only switched the linker, right?
23.24.59 #       <amiconn> yup
23.25.04 #       <[IDC]Dragon> better
23.26.02 #       <amiconn> http://amiconn-dyndns.org/unused-stuff.txt
23.26.15 #       <amiconn> Hrmf, http://amiconn.dyndns.org/unused-stuff.txt
23.26.48 #       <[IDC]Dragon> i2c_read() ?
23.27.09 #       <amiconn> I wondered about that one too
23.27.20 #       * amiconn goes to check whether this build actually works
23.27.31 #       <[IDC]Dragon> good idea :-)
23.27.57 #       <[IDC]Dragon> but in any case, an interesting experiment
23.28.29 #       <amiconn> For the menu_*() stuff, I knew thatt these are unused
23.28.43 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I guess this -Wl,--gc-sections linker option doesn't hurt the normal build
23.28.58 #       <[IDC]Dragon> same for the .lds wildcards
23.29.12 #       <amiconn> That build is actully working...
23.29.20 #       <amiconn> (quick test)
23.30.25 #       <amiconn> Huh?????
23.30.39 #       <amiconn> Really strange effect...
23.31.05 #       <amiconn> Calling 'View HW info' from the debug menu lead to a CPUAdrEr
23.31.18 #       <amiconn> However, the music is still playing (!!)
23.31.37 #       <[IDC]Dragon> haha
23.31.49 #       <amiconn> Yes, really
23.31.52 #       <[IDC]Dragon> you found the hidden DSP
23.32.12 #       <amiconn> Ah, reload doesn't work
23.32.32 #       <[IDC]Dragon> so the IRQ was still alive
23.32.40 #       <amiconn> Yes
23.32.52 #       <[IDC]Dragon> must be, DMA is only 64 K
23.32.59 #       <amiconn> The iram sections seem to need some attention
23.33.36 #       <amiconn> Hmm.
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23.34.15 #       <amiconn> It seems the garbage collector collects a little too much in some places
23.34.23 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Hi Strath!
23.34.46 #       <[IDC]Dragon> how's the Gmini?
23.35.40 #       <Tang> someone is continuing gminiport?
23.35.43 #       <Tang> cool news
23.37.04 #       <Tang> Just an ask about minor EDIT of the two nooby section of iRiverport...
23.37.49 #       <Tang> i was thinking that maybe a merge of the two pages should be better
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23.40.10 #       <Tang> to be fair it would be easier for me to maintain the translation synced if the two version use same structure
23.40.58 #       <[IDC]Dragon> amiconn: I got a diff now, it makes sense, remove a couple of disk write functions
23.43.21 #       <amiconn> I found the cause for the CPUAdrErr
23.43.35 #       <amiconn> It has nothing to do with the garbage collection
23.43.42 #       <amiconn> It's an actual rockbox bug
23.43.58 #       <[IDC]Dragon> nice catch
23.44.04 #       <amiconn> debug_menu.c declares   extern int ata_device;
23.44.18 #       <amiconn> However, ata.c defines   char ata_device;
23.44.22 #       <amiconn> (!!)
23.44.30 #       <[IDC]Dragon> ?
23.44.40 #       <[IDC]Dragon> ah
23.44.43 #       <amiconn> So the debug code tries to access an int
23.44.51 #       <[IDC]Dragon> with byte align
23.44.55 #       <amiconn> ...while ata.c may happily put it at an odd address
23.45.13 #       <amiconn> It was pure luck that it worked so far...
23.45.33 #       <[IDC]Dragon> yes
23.45.55 #       <amiconn> Now the question which of the 2 places should be changed
23.46.44 #       <amiconn> Btw, this shows why it is better to declare stuff in headers....
23.47.16 #       <[IDC]Dragon> definitely
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23.54.02 #       <amiconn> I can't find any other problems
23.54.25 #       <amiconn> (That's with non-rombox so far)
23.54.52 #       <[IDC]Dragon> can you commit that fix?
23.55.39 #       <amiconn> done
23.57.44 #       <[IDC]Dragon> thx