--- Log for 08.05.105 Server: brown.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 18 days and 15 hours ago 00.06.56 # <[IDC]Dragon> gotta go soon 00.07.55 # <[IDC]Dragon> just 1 thing: my vector table is evenly spaced, entries pointing to values 4 bytes apart 00.08.29 # Hmm. I don't have an idea what may cause this... 00.08.30 # <[IDC]Dragon> the firt one to 0x09006600, second to 0x09006604, and so on 00.08.40 # <[IDC]Dragon> first 00.09.04 # iiuc it must be that way for most vectors 00.09.26 # Look into firmware/system.c why 00.09.27 # <[IDC]Dragon> no, they point to code, some even to the same 00.09.51 # Yes, they point into that UIE "code array" 00.10.33 # It's implemented that way to get both the source address and the exception type 00.10.49 # Only some vectors point to "productive" code 00.11.41 # <[IDC]Dragon> I know, but mine is really a strict counter 00.12.06 # <[IDC]Dragon> at 0x09006600 I really find a table, but with wild entries 00.13.57 # Maybe your code doesn't include anything that requires interrupts? 00.14.11 # <[IDC]Dragon> the drivers do 00.14.13 # I just looked at the vector table of my current ondiosp binary 00.14.34 # _most_ entries also look as you describe, only the base address is different 00.14.44 # 0x0901FE44 00.14.56 # That is without sectioned compilation 00.15.07 # <[IDC]Dragon> 0x09006600 is within UIE for my build 00.15.18 # yup 00.15.41 # <[IDC]Dragon> strange, I will continue later 00.15.45 # <[IDC]Dragon> bye 00.15.50 Quit [IDC]Dragon () 00.17.33 # all the float functions in dumb will have to be replaced altogether 00.18.20 # hcl will be doing this :PPP 00.18.35 # I just get bored by all the warnings 00.18.40 # so I nuke a few 00.18.48 # yes, sure 00.20.36 # Bagder: I can't see a reduction of warnings by your dict.c commit... 00.21.21 # no, I don't think the cvs build table shows that 00.21.27 # I got it locally though 00.21.50 # Do you compile with even more warnings enabled? 00.22.08 # no, but I have a different set of gcc versions 00.24.43 # Try with gcc 4 :P 00.24.57 # hah 00.25.01 # suicide mission ;-) 00.25.22 # you'll get a heapload of new warnings 00.25.26 # heh 00.25.32 # pointer signedness 00.25.35 # ...which are correct, btw 00.25.40 # preglow: yups 00.25.46 # yes indeed 00.25.47 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 00.25.56 # I guess many of those can be enabled already with 3.4 00.26.51 # * Bagder nominates midi2wav.c as the ugliest piece of code in Rockbox 00.27.23 # i'm sure stevenm will be honoured 00.27.28 Quit Harpy (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 00.27.30 # #including 5 .c files 00.27.56 # yes, it's a temp thing as of yet, i believe 00.28.01 # not sure if it'll end up as a codec 00.28.10 # but still 00.28.16 # pretty it is not 00.28.34 # mmm. 00.29.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.30.02 # i wonder what became of the wavpack guy 00.31.45 # Bagder: The changelogs in the daily build table are sometimes off, plus the changes sometimes show up too early if something is committed in the middle of a build 00.32.17 # the changelogs are from the last 20 minutes 00.32.35 # ?? 00.32.45 # if a change in CVS is detected 00.32.52 # I mean, the changelog sometimes show the same change twice 00.32.53 # which it does by actually cvs update 00.32.59 # yes 00.33.06 # that's because it always uses 20 minutes backlog 00.33.16 # and a build is typically 13-15 minutes 00.33.17 # Hmm 00.33.33 # Imho that's somewhat irritating 00.33.47 # I'd expect it to show the changes which triggered the build 00.33.59 # well, it doesn't know that 00.34.09 # it updates and see a diff => rebuild 00.34.23 # LinusN: are you responsive at the moment? 00.34.49 # but I agree it is slightly annoying 00.35.01 # preglow: sure 00.35.05 # LinusN: Btw, I got your box to load rockbox from disk (by reformatting and putting back archos.mod as the first file 00.35.15 # amiconn: good 00.35.38 # LinusN: i tried clearing both CACR and ACR0 and ACR1, shouldn't that disable the code cache? 00.35.40 # Now I'll wait for that plastic cover to continue... 00.36.03 # Please don't forget to include the button caps and the screws... 00.36.30 # sure 00.36.43 # 16 warnings less 00.36.55 # well, i can detect no differences in execution time 00.37.27 # but i also can't see anything wrong in the cache setup 00.37.40 # btw, I have the endian stuff finally fixed in my local build now 00.37.53 # Nice :) 00.38.00 # preglow: clearing CACR should do it 00.38.08 # LinusN: Did you read about my dead code digging? 00.38.21 # yes, some of it 00.38.25 # LinusN: then ACR0 must be set incorrectly, or something, because i still get exactly the same codec run times 00.38.37 # hmmm 00.38.44 # sounds promising :) 00.39.09 # but it looks correctly set up to me 00.39.14 # then again, i don't really know much about this 00.39.57 # * Bagder decides to go for it now 00.40.06 # stand by for biggish commit 00.40.14 # * preglow gets coffee 00.40.19 # * LinusN crawls under the table 00.40.24 # LinusN: I'm not sure what to do about all that dead code. 00.40.34 # "all that" 00.40.49 # how much is it, and what do you want to do with it? 00.41.04 # The functions which are completely unneeded for some platforms should be disabled imho 00.41.12 # sure 00.41.38 # now update and tell me what breaks! ;-) 00.41.47 # re-configure 00.41.57 # However, there are some functions which are currently unused on *all* platforms, but which shouldn't go away imho 00.42.41 # We could switch the build to use sectioned compiling and link with garbage collection like I did as an experiment... 00.43.16 # ...but (1) I couldn't test on iriver, maybe there are problems and (2) this encourages laziness... 00.43.31 # Bagder: works just dandy here 00.43.36 # goodie 00.43.52 # the build dir is less cluttered now 00.44.05 # so i see 00.44.19 # LinusN: look at my comprehensive table, the gain is 1046...2090 bytes atm (SH platforms only) 00.44.32 # The completely unused functions are marked in dark red 00.45.40 # oh. oops. no wonder my invertrect didn't work >.>; 00.45.55 # HCl: i take it dumb is not a priority? 00.46.07 # preglow: not very.. at the moment. 00.46.18 # search engine/database needs a tiny bit of work. 00.46.30 # after that i should be free to look at that, or something else for that matter 00.46.48 # someone else working on the codecs would be nice... 00.46.48 # heh 00.46.59 # amiconn: where is this comprehensive table? 00.47.31 # http://amiconn.dyndns.org/Unused%20code.sxc I think you're reading backlogs ;) 00.47.53 # sxc?? 00.48.01 # openoffice 00.48.17 # ahh 00.48.33 # can m$ office open that? 00.48.40 # noooo 00.48.47 # HCl: nope 00.48.51 # preglow: i'll take a look at it after i'm done with rundb 00.48.59 # But oo can save as msoffice :P 00.49.18 # .txt for ever! 00.49.38 # Spreadsheets as .txt ??? 00.49.42 # ok, pdf! 00.50.07 # the adobe reader is soon the same size as open office ;-) 00.50.23 # yes, it's grown quite a bit 00.50.33 # unfortunately it is also the only pdf reader that i can use without screaming in agony 00.50.44 # Openoffice is still smaller than ms office ;) 00.50.51 # it uses *96* megabytes after install 00.51.20 # haven't had use for any office suites for a while 00.51.43 # yay 00.51.44 # ! 00.51.53 # my code works :3 00.53.07 # Bagder: reconfiguration required? 00.53.10 # yes 00.53.40 Join Moof [0] (moof@oh.hail.to.thee.blithe.wompom.com) 00.53.47 # hey 00.53.59 # hi 00.54.32 # this port of rockbox to the iRiver sounds cool. Is there anything as a non-C-friendly guy I can do to help? 00.55.05 # yeps, learn C and join in ;-O 00.55.12 # ;) 00.56.19 # I don't know, I guess code is what we lack the most atm 00.56.51 # or someone more than Linus with a bdm and h3x0 00.57.04 # yup, can't think of anything non-code-related that needs doing 00.57.13 # oh well 00.57.21 # mind if I pitch in an observation though? 00.57.28 # fire away 00.57.33 # reading the audio API bit, it doesn't seem to have much about seeking in it. Are you goign to be able to start playing a file half way through? 00.57.41 # yes 00.58.05 # that's a MUST 00.58.09 # right now my biggest gripe with my iRiver is that if I lose my place in an audiobook, I have to seek through 4 hours of stuff to get to it 00.58.23 # we already do mid-song resume on Archos 00.58.23 # understandable 00.58.25 Join Strath [0] (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a252.wi.tds.net) 00.58.36 # ...plus bookmarking 00.58.42 # brilliant ;) 00.59.20 # and can I put in a cheeky request for Speex on the list of codecs? ;) 00.59.27 # I don't think Linus followed that proposal very closely when he wrote the initial code 00.59.41 # at least it didn't look like that too me ;-) 00.59.45 # to me 00.59.45 # Bagder: aaah 01.00.13 # Moof: the problem is not to add codecs, we all want all codecs, the problem is that we need someone to work on it 01.00.26 # fair enough 01.00.28 Quit Sucka ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") 01.00.30 # I did say it was cheeky 01.00.34 # :-) 01.00.42 Join Sucka [0] (~NNSCRIPT@host81-156-210-48.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) 01.00.48 # amiconn: build working fine? 01.00.55 # Yes it does 01.01.10 # However, my way of updating my boxes got a bit more difficult :/ 01.01.11 # great 01.01.24 # what way is that? 01.01.56 # Now I need to go 2 dirs down to grab the plugins 01.02.14 # write a script for it! 01.02.34 # Hmm, probably I should do that 01.02.41 # find . -name "*.rock" 01.02.57 # anyway, I'll try to keep up with the wiki. when you need spanish translators or stress testers or UI testers or other things a non-C guy can do, stick something up there :) 01.03.33 # Moof: we'll do that for sure 01.03.47 # Bagder: It's not that simple. Probably the easiest way would be to start from the makezip script 01.03.47 # I think the spanish translation is fairly up-to-date 01.04.03 # amiconn: yes, that has a somewhat extended check 01.04.08 # thanks guys. Keep up the great work :) 01.04.11 # Basically I want almost what this script does, only that I don't want all languages 01.04.36 # ...but only english and german for me, and additionally swedish for my sis 01.04.53 # should be an easy edit 01.05.13 # And of course it shouldn't zip the result, but put it on the box 01.05.29 # It would need a way to know the drive letter.... 01.06.52 # Did you check whether simulator builds still work (especially the 'make install' part)? 01.07.13 # I tried make zip 01.07.19 # so I think it works 01.07.56 # Yellow and red builds... 01.07.59 # yeps 01.10.18 # LinusN: and yeah, stuffing the main imdct_l loop in iram speeded stuff up from 180% realtime to 220%, i really don't think there should be such a dramatic speedup if the cache was working properly 01.11.23 # * LinusN is running some cache tests 01.15.55 Quit Sucka ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") 01.17.20 # initial tests show that the cache does have impact 01.17.50 # for(i = 0;i < 10000000;i++){} takes 84 ticks with cache and 2163 without :-) 01.18.03 # yes, i too am pretty certain the cache works :/ 01.18.14 # but i'm still puzzled why i can't seem to turn it off 01.18.50 # probably did something wrong 01.19.09 # I'm off to bed. If there are any remaining build problems and no one else fixes them, I'll continue working on the tomorrow evening 01.19.20 # gnite 01.21.00 Quit einhirn_ (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.25.51 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@carlsberg.heim2.tu-clausthal.de) 01.26.18 # preglow: how do i include your imdct_mcf5249.S in my build? 01.26.40 Join stripwax_ [0] (~stripwax_@213-228-241-36.dsl.prodigynet.co.uk) 01.26.48 # sup 01.26.49 # well 01.27.13 # you have to replace the one that's already there, obviously 01.27.18 # and declare ASO_IMDCT someplace 01.28.22 # i just #define ASO_IMDCT if CONFIG_CPU==MCF5249 etc etc in layer3.c right now 01.33.52 Join asdsd____ [0] (~asdsd@h-67-100-29-43.miatflad.dynamic.covad.net) 01.33.56 Part asdsd____ 01.40.10 # ugh. 01.40.14 # * HCl goes to sleep and bites his editor. 01.40.18 # that code is an utter mess. 01.40.22 # humm 01.40.23 # but i have no idea how to cleanify it. 01.40.24 # prettify it 01.40.36 # any of you guys have suggestions for good books for low level programming? 01.40.42 # like the kind of stuff you guys are doing 01.41.10 # not all rockbox code is very low level 01.41.20 # hehe, i can't remember ever reading a book on that... 01.41.25 # me neither 01.41.26 # * HCl considers designing his code in OO first to get it organized, then code it with structs and functions... 01.41.46 # well I want to help with the h3xx stuff.. but eh.. maybe I am getting too ambitious 01.41.55 # HCl: if you've got it planned out how to work with oo, just using structs in the first place shouldn't be that hard 01.42.22 # Aditya: if you know nothing of low-level programming as it is, then yes, i think you are ;) 01.42.40 # Aditya: i'm afraid nobody will be able to work on the H300 until i have ported the bootloader to it 01.43.05 # and most of our code should work well 01.43.08 # well, it's possible that someone else could port the bootloader ;-) 01.43.23 # port it, yes 01.43.57 # stripwax_: is the encryption the same btw? 01.44.19 # yep. different key but the ihpfirm sources handle it anyway 01.44.37 # great 01.45.23 # well I know how to program in C.. but I am not familiar with firmware and such 01.45.57 # I guess I will just wait a couple of weeks, get one of those BDM wigglers and fool around 01.46.09 # you can always flash a dead unit if you have a BDM wiggler right? 01.46.14 # Aditya: indeed 01.46.15 # yes 01.46.24 # or is there any way I can completely destroy my iRiver? 01.46.25 # Aditya: do you know how to connect it? 01.46.25 # Aditya: but you really don't need one once the bootloader is done 01.46.39 # oh 01.46.42 # ah, much better 01.46.48 # I know what causes the warnings in bmp.c. It's a design error... readshort() / readlong() are functions taking a pointer and returning a short/long for big endian, but they're replaced by identity macros for little endian.... 01.46.54 # when will this boot loader be done? anytime soon? 01.47.01 # probably not 01.47.12 # i'm a busy man 01.47.12 # I wanted to do something different over the summer anyways so I will prob mess around with it either way 01.47.32 # and hopefully not blow up my H320 :P 01.47.44 # i haven't managed to have my h120 explode yet, at least 01.47.50 # Aditya - it's always possible to kill your iRiver by electrostatic discharge ;-) 01.48.02 # stop scaring me! 01.48.04 # :P 01.48.05 # but i'll probably try to connect the BDM to my H320 pretty soon 01.48.13 # heh.. I did ruin my mobo once though.. 01.48.17 # with a bit of luck, little work will be required 01.48.23 # although that was my bro's fault.. 01.48.43 # idiot comes in with his fur coat.. 01.48.45 # someone's found the lcd display used as well, i see 01.48.50 # whoop de doo. mobo goes to hell 01.48.57 # Linus - oh cool, didn't realise you'd already sourced an H3xx. is it US or non-US model (believe the hardware's different) 01.48.59 # preglow: hopefully, yes 01.49.22 # he didn't mention why he was so sure that was the one 01.49.33 # and we still don't have the data sheets 01.49.36 # so I am guessing the main thing you guys are missing for H3xx are the drivers for the actual hardware? 01.49.37 # deed 01.49.47 # Aditya: i think we've got most of them 01.49.49 # stripwax_: it's a US model 01.49.51 # Aditya: apart from the lcd driver 01.50.06 # LinusN - so no USB-on-the-go (is that right?) 01.50.18 # stripwax_: well, i can mod it 01.50.18 # stripwax_: can be enabled with a simple latch, i think 01.50.25 # heh ;-) 01.50.33 # I have a US model too.. and I can open it up over the summer if needed.. but I think linusn will prob have better luck doing that and not killing the player 01.53.31 # i just had to open mine 01.53.39 # openable things tend to be opened around me 01.55.08 # * HCl writes pseudocode and goes to sleep 01.56.07 # The bmp.c warnings are tricky :( I would like to replace these functions with the neat SWAB32/SWAB16 macros, but can't do so because the bmp file header isn't properly aligned 02.00.04 # good night (and other) all 02.00.53 Part MoosCamaro 02.01.17 Join ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-123-154.VIC.netspace.net.au) 02.02.29 # gotta go. 02.02.32 Part stripwax_ 02.03.49 # i like the fact that the coldfire init utility code generator doesn't invalidate the code cache 02.04.38 # oh, it does 02.09.48 # init utility code generator? 02.10.05 # yeah, there's a utility to generate coldfire init code 02.11.15 # just wanted to see if its idea of cache disabling code was the same as mine, heh 02.11.37 # does it enable it in the same way as i do? 02.12.14 # yes 02.12.36 # invalidate with 0x01000000, then 0x80000000 to enable cache 02.12.39 # then set up acr 02.12.57 # and the acr is set up in the same way? 02.13.52 # doesn't let me use base address 0x31000000 02.14.06 # really? 02.14.08 Quit cYmen_ ("zZz") 02.14.35 # nope, complains the base address has to be a multiple of the memory region size 02.15.14 # that is generally true, the 31000000 is a hack to work around the A24 bug in the chip 02.16.52 # hmm 02.17.06 # but yeah, i can't see anything wrong 02.18.45 # but unless the cache mode is reset some other place, i don't understand why i can't measure a difference 02.19.46 # asm(" move.l #0,%d0\n movec %d0,%cacr"); 02.20.05 # that's what i'm doing 02.23.00 # it seems to boot slower 02.27.26 # it almost certainly does boot slower when i disable the cache 02.29.07 # whoa. you people have been busy in the last four and a half hours 02.29.24 # so i get a difference, just not when using codecs 02.29.25 # hahah 02.29.31 # ashridah: bagder has been busy ;) 02.29.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.30.48 # preglow: i did a cache test in helloworld.rock 02.31.06 # the cache gave great performance there too 02.31.17 # :/ 02.31.31 # so there must be something about your code that makes the cache impact small 02.31.55 # i just don't see why i can measure _no_ difference 02.32.02 # there should be tons 02.33.14 # maybe not tons, but there should be a difference... 02.33.30 # there is a noticable difference when booting 02.33.40 # that should translate to a measurable difference, and that easily 02.34.59 # almost seems like the cache is in freeze mode 02.35.05 # but it's not 02.39.27 # well 02.39.36 # invalidate_icache() enables the cache 02.39.40 # i didn't think of that 02.40.01 # small wonder there's no difference, then 02.40.11 # huh? 02.40.23 # the cache is enabled before a plugin is loaded 02.40.26 # via that function 02.40.32 # ah 02.43.22 # fg 02.43.30 # wrong window, yes 02.48.41 # well, well 02.48.48 # i have no idea whatsoever makes the code slow 02.49.02 # considering everything i've learned so far, it should be faster 02.51.55 # we'll find out soon enough 02.52.05 # i have to go to bed now 02.52.11 # cu around 02.52.13 # yes, me to 02.52.14 # yup 02.52.17 Part LinusN 02.52.17 Quit preglow ("leaving") 03.11.11 Join t0mas [0] (~Tomas@ip503c08d1.speed.planet.nl) 03.11.24 # night :) 03.14.05 Join DMJC [0] (~James@220-245-177-51-sa-pppoe.tpgi.com.au) 03.22.37 Nick ashridah is now known as Lost-ash (ashridah@220-253-123-154.VIC.netspace.net.au) 03.32.32 Join ]RowaN[ [0] (~522bd6ab@labb.contactor.se) 03.32.49 # <]RowaN[> can someone tell me where i can get grayrockbox.zip ? the link i found for it seems to be dead 03.33.07 # you can compile it... 03.33.18 # get the patch from the patch tracker... 03.33.30 # and the source from cvs, or a daily tar.gz 03.33.53 # <]RowaN[> that sounds too difficult for 2:33 am 03.34.03 # 3:34 here ;) 03.34.22 # <]RowaN[> i just installed rockbxo on my ihp-120 you see 03.34.34 # <]RowaN[> i thought it would have jpg & rockboy plugins included but it doesnt seem to 03.34.54 # well... if you installed... you have a build environment? 03.35.19 # <]RowaN[> nah i downloaded premade bootloader firmware 03.35.28 # from where? 03.35.37 # <]RowaN[> err.. google.. some forum 03.35.54 # hm... shouldn't be there.. 03.36.17 Nick Lost-ash is now known as ashridah (ashridah@220-253-123-154.VIC.netspace.net.au) 03.36.19 # rockbox isn't ready... and "we" will never release a complete .hex file 03.36.22 # copyright issues 03.36.26 # wb ashridah 03.36.38 # <]RowaN[> yeah i know its not made by you guys 03.36.51 # <]RowaN[> and i know the risks flashing my player 03.37.53 Join XShocK [0] (~XShocK@pcp09492659pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) 03.37.56 # hi 03.38.25 # <]RowaN[> erm, so anyway, those plugins, jpeg & rockboy.. not included in the normal daily builds right? or am i missing something 03.41.07 Quit ]RowaN[ ("i love sleep") 03.41.20 # :| 03.41.29 # they are included... but I don't know what he downloaded :) 03.42.52 # hi 03.56.46 # whoo000ooooo 03.57.09 # I take this moment to say threads suck 04.06.04 Join QT_ [0] (as@area51.users.madwifi) 04.06.10 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 04.06.18 Join Seed [0] (ben@l192-117-115-168.broadband.actcom.net.il) 04.06.44 # * ashridah huggles threads, just to be contrary 04.09.41 # heh 04.09.45 # they are cool when they work 04.09.49 # but to program them.. its a bitch 04.09.54 # synchronization and such 04.10.17 # well, granted, you need to be able to keep track of resources properly 04.10.24 # which can get convoluted 04.11.25 # especially when you are dealing with 4 datastructures and n number of threads.. where you don't know what n is 04.11.26 # ugh 04.11.51 # ooh. do they all need access to the four structures in random orders as well? 04.12.02 # no 04.12.19 # http://www.cs.umd.edu/class/spring2005/cmsc132/Projects/P8/project8.html 04.12.26 # thats what I am making 04.13.44 # heh 04.13.50 # looks more fun than the crap i'm doing atm 04.14.45 # software engineering lecturer has us trying to solve an intractible problem in a tractible way 04.17.19 Quit QT (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04.26.51 Join kaltek [0] (~kaltek@cpe-024-168-185-127.nc.res.rr.com) 04.27.37 # hey i am having trouble with me studio jukebox can any1 help me? 04.28.24 # whats the problem? 04.29.27 # i think its being reconized as a unknown device but i cant get drivers installed 04.29.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.30.08 # its says usb active 04.31.11 # but when i try to install the drivers from the archos website it doesnt like them 04.40.53 Quit kaltek (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.45.20 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 04.53.16 Join kaltek1 [0] (~kaltek@cpe-024-168-185-127.nc.res.rr.com) 05.28.43 Quit XShocK (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The future of IRC") 05.37.15 Quit kaltek1 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05.39.35 Part Aditya 05.41.32 Quit dwihno (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.29.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.41.51 Quit ehntoo ("Leaving") 07.37.29 Join kaltek [0] (~kaltek@cpe-024-168-185-127.nc.res.rr.com) 07.56.54 Join ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-122-80.VIC.netspace.net.au) 08.25.31 Join JackDaniels85 [0] (user@td9091b60.pool.terralink.de) 08.29.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.34.04 Quit kaltek (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 08.41.47 Quit courtc (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.45.21 Part JackDaniels85 08.47.21 Join JackDaniels85 [0] (user@td9091b60.pool.terralink.de) 08.48.26 # +x 08.52.01 # indeed 09.10.52 # morning again 09.10.54 # damn... 09.11.07 # hi 09.11.10 # getting to sleep at 5 is ok... if you can just keep on sleeping for at least 5 to 6 hours 09.12.18 # I have too. I have sleep 4 hours. :-) 09.12.44 # yes, and I need coffee 09.12.44 # brb 09.12.50 # hehe 09.12.55 # arg 09.13.06 # note to self.... don't drink to much when you have to get up early 09.13.50 # heheh. 09.14.03 # morning. 09.15.06 # hi hci 09.15.12 # morning 09.17.39 # hrm. 09.17.48 # i have a bit of a problem.. 09.17.58 # * HCl will just have to adjust databox. 09.18.37 # how do i call the virtual keyboard to give me an inputted string back? 09.18.55 # rockbox has a standard vkeyboard now? 09.19.09 # didn't it have one for a long time? o.o 09.19.16 # no idea.... 09.19.29 Part JackDaniels85 09.21.01 # amiconn: ? 09.22.07 # rb->kbd_input ? 09.22.21 # * HCl will try that :) 09.22.46 # is that a fullscreen vkb? 09.22.53 # yup 09.23.01 # darn 09.23.12 # ? 09.30.26 # hrm... 09.37.35 # it has Hadaka 09.37.37 # eh HCl 09.38.37 # rb->kbd_input(inbuffer, sizeof(inbuffer)); 09.51.34 # yea, thanks. 10.02.14 Join courtc_ [0] (~courtc@adsl-217-4-176.asm.bellsouth.net) 10.02.57 Nick courtc_ is now known as courtc (~courtc@adsl-217-4-176.asm.bellsouth.net) 10.17.09 Join Harpy [0] (Zee99Av4r1@dsl-hkigw7wbb.dial.inet.fi) 10.21.03 Nick QT_ is now known as QT (as@area51.users.madwifi) 10.30.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.01.11 Join amiconn_ [0] (~jens@pD95D10FA.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.01.25 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 11.01.26 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (~jens@pD95D10FA.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.10.44 Join preglow [0] (thomj@s183a.studby.ntnu.no) 11.20.53 Join Sucka [0] (~NNSCRIPT@host81-156-210-48.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) 11.31.46 Join kergoth [0] (~kergoth@covenant.kergoth.com) 11.31.48 Part amiconn 12.02.45 # hm.. 12.02.56 # what was the cvs commando to update new dirs also? 12.04.13 # oh nevermind 12.04.14 # got it :) 12.30.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.43.15 Join MoosCamaro [0] (MoosCamaro@m214.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 12.43.37 # hi all 12.50.06 # hello 12.55.24 # hi 13.04.21 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@pD95D1E87.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.15.12 Join cYmen [0] (~cymen@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 13.47.48 Nick Sucka is now known as Sucka`away (~NNSCRIPT@host81-156-210-48.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) 14.01.39 Join Aditya [0] (~Aditya@pcp09495878pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) 14.01.48 # heylo 14.02.03 # hi 14.02.38 # what's up.. is this when people are awake or when everyone's sleeping? :P 14.03.01 # hi Aditya 14.03.04 # hi 14.03.39 # F1 race 14.05.02 # Aditya: some people awake I'd say 14.06.11 # yes 14.06.14 # it's day in europe 14.06.48 # and afaik the biggest part of the people here are from europe... 14.07.27 # good 14.07.28 # :P 14.07.38 # I am from the US.. but eh.. I am up at the most odd times.. so its ok 14.07.45 # yes 14.07.50 # bonjour mooscamaro.. cava? 14.07.51 # :P 14.07.52 # but some people here are too ;) 14.07.54 # lol 14.07.58 # (I know some french btw) 14.08.03 # Je ne parle francais pas ;) 14.08.04 # and of course like to show off 14.08.11 # sure you dont tomas 14.08.15 # :P 14.08.17 # ou quel français 14.08.22 # we have to learn it :P 14.08.42 # ou? 14.08.43 # salut Aditya, ca va? 14.08.48 # lol 14.08.53 # almost all dutch people speak some french 14.08.56 # je suis bien, et toi? 14.09.00 # or at least should ;) 14.09.07 # trés bi1 merci 14.09.12 # man 14.09.13 # moos 14.09.16 # amiconn: that's crazy :) 14.09.22 # you're using all weird characters.. 14.09.29 # (credits scroller) 14.09.31 # C'est unicode ;) 14.09.37 # Aditya 14.09.45 # ou utf-8 ? 14.09.51 # rasher: really? 14.10.02 # No, it's great.. how was it previously? 14.10.11 # I watch F1 GP of Spain 14.11.18 # rasher: Previously it just displayed 2 names (one per line) for a second, then advanced to the next 2 14.11.36 # Ah, boring :) 14.11.40 # It was non-scrolling, so longer names were displayed incomplete 14.11.49 # hmm 14.11.51 # even worse! 14.11.53 # I am on unicode 14.12.33 # hmmm 14.12.39 # button=rb->button_get(true); 14.12.47 # shouldn't that block till a button is received? 14.13.03 # yes, almost 14.13.08 # but? 14.13.26 # its immediately passing through on my iriver.. 14.13.39 # It returns when either a button press, release, or repeat is received, or a system event like usb connected etc 14.13.51 # mrf... 14.14.01 # i'll just make my own buttonpress thing.. 14.14.02 # damn 14.14.07 # its that high level? 14.14.11 # lemme at it! 14.14.12 # HCl: No need to do so 14.14.12 # :P 14.14.31 # You should just take care of releases/ repeats 14.14.52 # In a plugin, most often the very first even you receive is a release 14.15.18 # ...of course. It's the release of the button press with which you started the plugin 14.19.23 # too late 14.19.30 # already wrote my own buttonpress thing. 14.19.39 # lol 14.19.42 # heh..gotta love OSS 14.19.43 # :P 14.20.09 # how exactly did you guys manage to write a gameboy emulator lol 14.20.21 # HCl did 14.20.34 # people were joking about it :p 14.20.41 # so then i ported gnuboy and stripped it a bit 14.20.47 # ah 14.20.54 # * t0mas starts jokinh about wifi suppoer 14.20.55 # man.. you are sooo my hero lol 14.20.56 # and wrote an lcd and button driver.. 14.20.57 # *support 14.21.03 # t0mas: :P 14.21.19 # cause I always wanted to port an emulator once I got caught with the programming details 14.21.51 # oh btw.. can I already start tweaking the H1xx code if I have a BDM wiggler? 14.21.56 # for H3xx that is 14.22.03 # you can try 14.22.19 # with a bdm you can start writing a bootloader 14.22.39 # when that works you can start porting drivers :) 14.22.58 # I will most likely just mod the current stuff 14.23.06 # yes, that's whay I ment ;) 14.23.10 # I am not experienced enough to write it from scratch :P 14.23.15 # HCl: Doing your own button handling isn't a good idea imho. If you do that, you have to take care about numerous things yourself... 14.23.25 # make the bootloader work, and port the H1xx driver suff to H3xx 14.23.37 # amiconn: like yield? 14.23.39 # Aditya: if you're not experience with low-level stuff, steer clear of getting a bdm 14.23.48 # ...plus the responsiveness is usually worse 14.24.05 # i use the same button driver as the one i wrote for rockboy 14.24.07 # it should work fine. 14.24.10 # Aditya: But feel free to buy one and donate it to someone who is :) 14.24.12 # HCl: Like queueing, receiving buttons while the gui thread is busy... 14.24.24 # yea, well, blah :/ 14.24.40 # HCl: The rockboy button handling is another story, as it needs to be realtime. 14.24.55 # It has its drawbacks though, like e.g. not handling usb 14.25.10 # mhm. 14.25.16 # HCl: just get w/o blocking the first time 14.25.22 # and start blocking after that 14.25.31 # t0mas: hrm. 14.25.38 # hrm = ? 14.25.42 # well, just gonna try my current thing. 14.25.46 # There are tons of button event loop examples in the current rockbox code 14.25.51 # i don't like the whole queuing anyways. 14.26.31 # you don't like queueing? :P 14.26.33 # I couldn't live without queueing. The archos firmware does this. It sometimes feels really sluggish because of that 14.26.49 # preglow.. I canot really kill my iriver can I? I mean.. I am not dumb.. just dont know much about firmware.. but I am going to read up first :P 14.27.03 # Aditya: what, you mean using a bdm? 14.27.03 # preglow: sometimes when software lags, and it queues the keys 14.27.08 # and you've pressed like lots when it doesn't respond. 14.27.10 # Like, not reacting on a keypress just because it started reading the disk at the same moment... 14.27.11 # HCl: yes, and that'a good thing 14.27.14 # it'll go process the entire queue. 14.27.17 # Aditya: how hardware knowledgable are you? :) 14.27.24 # instead of dropping the keys while it was busy. 14.27.35 # i wouldn't want a queue bigger than 2 14.27.35 # HCl: Why should it rop them? 14.27.37 # well, you never should need to press a button several times 14.27.39 # that's the whole deal 14.27.48 # amiconn: because i've had times where the system was busy, cached all my keypresses. 14.27.48 # you know it'll be handled anyway 14.27.51 # and i spend the next 5 minutes 14.27.57 # having to watch it going up and down my playlist 14.28.01 # till it finally responds again. 14.28.01 # well you shouldn't have pressed all them keys :) 14.28.08 # lol 14.28.13 # yes bmd, using a bdm wiggler. 14.28.14 # when something doesn't respond i press lots of keys. 14.28.25 # tomas : I am pretty good with hardware in general 14.28.27 # Aditya: well, you need to solder the thing to your player, of course you can destroy it 14.28.32 # I like being able to press buttons beforehand, like answering the resume request before it's even displayed, when I know I want to resume 14.28.47 # indeed 14.28.47 # Aditya: well... see preglow's comment... you have to solder it... 14.28.50 # well yeah.. I COULD.. but I have soldered too many things in engineering :P 14.29.06 # ok, then it isn't a proble 14.29.06 # m 14.29.16 # is the lcd_clear_display broken? 14.29.20 # Aditya: but my advice is, if you're not very knowledgable about very low-level debugging, don't get a bdm 14.29.25 # HCl: Nope 14.29.29 # i do the onscreenkeyboard, but it doesn't clear my iriver screen.. 14.29.43 # if(rb->kbd_input(filename, 100)) { 14.29.45 # .... 14.29.48 # HCl: true 14.29.51 # rb->lcd_clear_display(); 14.29.52 # preglow: I know.. I prob wont do anything now.. just going to read up first 14.29.53 # doesn't work 14.29.55 # Aditya: if you aren't able to write a bootloader, you won't get to use it anyhow 14.29.58 # see my dict plugin... it has the input stuff you want... 14.30.04 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 14.30.11 # then do shit on random stuff like my clock first :P 14.30.11 # HCl: You probably forgot rb->lcd_update() afterwards 14.30.15 # i got input settled... 14.30.31 # amiconn: no, i lcd_update, and it just writes my text on top of the onscreen keyboard 14.30.43 # do i have to explicitly lcd_update immediately after a clean? 14.30.53 # Of course 14.30.57 # why? 14.31.05 # i figured it would just set the internal buffer to 0 14.31.12 # Well, not if you print something after the clear 14.31.13 # and then i can write to it 14.31.20 # Yes it does 14.31.21 # and lcd-update 14.31.27 # then whats going wrong? :/ 14.32.10 # I don't know 14.32.11 # * HCl will just add an update right after the clean, though it shouldn't really matter... 14.35.12 # odd. 14.35.14 # it helped.. 14.35.18 # i don't understand why it helped though. 14.40.30 # pft, not important 14.43.26 # ? 14.49.10 # Bagder: r u there? 15.12.12 # searchquery editor is processing steadily 15.12.22 # * HCl is hoping to finish it today 15.16.48 # kind of odd that the editor for the searchengine is actually more complicated than the searchengine itself. 15.16.55 # not really 15.17.04 # user interfaces are pretty complex 15.17.07 # to code, that is 15.17.32 # i've seen plenty of user interfaces that actually consist of more code than what it's supposed to wrap 15.18.08 # mmmmhm. 15.18.26 # someone port glade to rockbox 15.18.35 # i'm just hoping that sometime someone will prettify the interface. 15.18.52 # editor is *almost* done. 15.18.56 # someone ought to make widgets 15.18.56 # heh 15.18.56 # working great so far 15.19.01 # that would be pretty cool 15.19.43 Join ]RowaN[ [0] (a2b0y@82-43-214-171.cable.ubr10.newm.blueyonder.co.uk) 15.20.21 # am i the only one that thinks sideways text scrolling is too fast for the iriver lcd? 15.20.36 # no idea 15.20.37 # <]RowaN[> slow it down then? 15.20.49 # yea, widgets would be nice :/ 15.20.54 # <]RowaN[> can someone point me in the direction of grayscale.tgz ? (rockboy greyscale hack) 15.21.17 # preglow: You can adjust the scrolling to your likings 15.21.32 # yeah, i know, but the default is too fast!! :> 15.21.49 # Really? Then change the default 15.21.51 # don't think i'll ever wait for the scrolling to start during normal use anyway 15.21.53 # ...for iriver 15.22.20 # On archos, I actually bump it up a little from the default 15.23.50 # <]RowaN[> i renamed a mp3 file from the rockbox gui, and now i cant seem to delete that file.. any ideas ppl? 15.24.27 # its a feature in the shareware version 15.24.41 # you pay them 20 dollars and your file will be deletable magically 15.25.08 # <]RowaN[> save it for #comedy aditya 15.25.15 # pfft 15.25.23 # ghehe 15.25.25 # <]RowaN[> or #lameness 15.25.37 # seriously, I think something is not updating datastructures they are using right 15.25.45 # ]RowaN[: is it reproducible? 15.25.54 # <]RowaN[> err lets see 15.25.57 # reproducable. 15.26.00 # ]RowaN[: Again: Where did you download this copy? 15.26.05 # Hmm, interesting. I just made some code and now testing realtime mp3 playback on iriver :) Trying to play /sample.mp3 15.26.12 # As you don't have rockboy... it sounds like a weird build to me 15.26.21 # <]RowaN[> rasher: mysticriver forums 15.26.33 # I would get the latest one 15.26.37 # <]RowaN[> for the bootloader that is, then rockbox.org for the build 15.26.43 # Slasheri: 15 seconds? :) 15.26.43 # that way bug reports would actually be useful 15.26.54 # ]RowaN[: wich build from rockbox.org 15.27.01 # <]RowaN[> latest one from yesterday 15.27.02 # t0mas: yes :) sorry, i have been little busy.. 15.27.06 # ]RowaN[: which build do you have? menu>info>version 15.27.11 # <]RowaN[> sec 15.27.28 # Slasheri: no problem, I've been quit busy meself... 15.27.39 # <]RowaN[> 050508-0151 15.28.02 # *quite 15.28.04 # t0mas: okay, great :) I will make soon the dict converter changes 15.28.13 # ok, I still have to look at scrolling 15.28.33 # ]RowaN[: then you have rockboy 15.29.01 # <]RowaN[> yeah i figured out how to use rockboy, just had to enable viewing of non music files too 15.29.09 # <]RowaN[> which was off by default 15.29.14 # yes 15.29.22 # * ]RowaN[ lives & learns 15.29.31 # and for grayscale... use the patch... and if you don't know how to do that... learn it. 15.30.15 # <]RowaN[> lerning? on a sunday? 15.31.40 # <]RowaN[> ah, error doesnt reproduce.. i just renamed another file within rockbox, and im able to still rename/delete it 15.32.00 # <]RowaN[> so im just stuck with one undeletable file heh.. lets see what scandisk has to say 15.32.19 # * t0mas prods amiconn 15.32.30 # maybe an intresting bug in the fat stuff? 15.32.45 # there seems to be a few quirks with the fat, yes.. but it also seems hard to narrow down 15.33.23 # <]RowaN[> scandisk didnt see any probs 15.33.33 # <]RowaN[> is there any reason why i shouldnt defrag my iriver hd? 15.33.46 # ohyea. 15.33.50 # my ftp is temporarily down. 15.33.53 # cause i moved it to port 2121 15.34.03 # and forgot to update your firewall? 15.34.10 # or can we just use it on port 2121? 15.34.10 # cause my parents' isp blocks port 21 to my server :/ 15.34.15 # you can use it on port 2121 15.34.18 # ok 15.34.46 # That's one horrible isp :( 15.35.18 # yes.. 15.36.41 # <]RowaN[> in dos the undeletable file doesnt show up at all.. shows in windwos explorer tho 15.37.09 # Strange. 15.37.19 # sure it's not listed as some weird filename? 15.37.37 # Sounds like the dir entry/entries are incorrect somehow 15.37.47 # <]RowaN[> ah yes it is listed in dos 15.39.20 # Hmm, how can I allocate large amount of static memory? I think that static unsigned char codec_memory[CODEC_MEM_SIZE]; is not the right way.. 15.39.42 # Slasheri: no that's not the right way 15.39.47 # use the mp3buffer. 15.39.47 # :D 15.39.52 # but from where? 15.39.54 # and what do you want? 15.40.04 # from a small plugin you can use the plugin buffer... for some data... 15.40.30 # and for a lot of data... use mp3 buffer... but that will kill playback... 15.40.32 # plugin buffer is quite big on iriver 15.40.33 # t0mas: Hmm, okay. Now I am trying to write some dynamic memory allocation stuff for codecs 15.40.46 # HCl: I know, I used it 15.40.57 # Slasheri: that's something discussed a lot... 15.41.01 # it was mostly made that big so rockboy would fit ;x 15.41.30 # a long time ago there was some malloc() function 15.41.33 # Bagder wrote it... 15.41.39 # but it was removed... as it wasn't needed.. 15.42.33 # does codecs really need dynamic memory allocation? 15.42.51 # Hmm, yep. At least some of the codecs needs malloc etc, unless the codec is modified 15.42.53 # doh! 15.43.12 # preglow: current libmad implementation at least needs 15.43.13 # i think we'll try to remove as many mallocs as we can 15.43.37 # Slasheri: Bagder wrote a good algorithm for allocating the memory in blocks... and being able to free them again... and if you just want to allocate something.. I have a _very_ simple malloc() using the pluginbuffer in dict.c 15.44.07 # t0mas: great, i will check that :) 15.44.21 # for useful things you should check the one Bagder wrote 15.44.35 # Slasheri: i think we've removed all the mallocs in libmad 15.44.41 # it's somewhere on http://daniel.haxx.se 15.44.46 # Slasheri: not actually removed, but the actuall mallocs aren't called anymore 15.45.09 # t0mas: It's also in rockbox cvs, in one of the 'attic' directories 15.45.19 # ah ok, I missed that :) 15.46.00 # amiconn? playing graveyard administrator today? ;) "More dead code..." 15.46.02 # preglow: Hmm.. I tried to compile the libmad but linker gave some errors about undefined codec_alloc, codec_free, memmove etc. 15.46.10 # t0mas: Haha, yes 15.46.15 # gtg, cu 15.46.19 Part amiconn 15.46.20 # bye 15.46.41 # Slasheri: what, you mean seperately? the libmad in the rockbox cvs compiles just fine 15.47.43 # Yes, it compiles fine. But I tried to link it directly (for testing purposes) with rockbox firmware and then I saw the errors.. 15.48.00 # well, of course 15.48.06 # it needs to be linked with the plugin subsystem 15.48.09 Join arfo [0] (~arfo@p213.54.204.30.tisdip.tiscali.de) 15.48.09 # which has a simple malloc 15.48.21 # that is, the xxx2wav boys have 15.48.38 # ah, okay :) 15.48.44 # but anyway 15.48.50 # i think we'll remove all the mallocs we can 15.48.58 # not having to bother about dynamic memory handling is nice 15.56.51 # good news 15.56.57 # the editor is *almost* finished 16.03.12 # can the player display inverted text? 16.03.37 Join |it|ChasKi` [0] (~faggotypa@82-69-23-235.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) 16.04.29 # most charcell displays can 16.08.21 # does anyone know why kbd_input loads a lot of crap chars when i boot it at first 16.08.24 # ? 16.08.57 # i'm guessing its my button handling? 16.09.08 # <|it|ChasKi`> Anyone got rockbox running on a ihp140? 16.09.14 # ahyea. my button handling doesn't clear the queue, ofcourse.. 16.09.19 # yes O.o. 16.09.28 # * HCl is working on the searchengine on his h140 16.19.48 Join lodesi [0] (~Unknown@d01v-14-70.d4.club-internet.fr) 16.22.02 # * HCl gnaws on his bug. 16.22.14 # * HCl captures it in a jar and releases it into the wild 16.28.41 Part arfo 16.30.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.41.21 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 16.41.22 Quit MoosCamaro (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.41.46 Join MoosCamaro [0] (MoosCamaro@m214.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 16.41.50 # weeee. commit. 16.41.59 # * HCl waits for the daily builds to catch fire. 16.42.16 # * HCl prods t0mas 16.42.32 # i need people to test databox 16.42.37 # I'll get right to it 16.42.41 # yay. 16.42.57 # anything I need to prepare to test it? 16.43.00 Join asdsd____ [0] (~asdsd@h-67-100-29-43.miatflad.dynamic.covad.net) 16.43.01 # nope. 16.43.46 # * t0mas wakes up? 16.43.47 # what? 16.43.50 # testing? 16.43.52 # yush 16.43.53 # :3 16.44.01 # * t0mas cvs-updates 16.44.06 # don't forget -d 16.44.46 Quit thegeek (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.45.14 # erp 16.45.19 # something exploded 16.45.23 # mmm? 16.45.29 # *goes to look at daily builds* 16.47.04 # In file included from /home/rasher/rockbox/build-env/src/rockbox/apps/plugin.h:36, 16.47.08 # from databox.h:23, 16.47.10 # from databox.c:19: 16.47.13 # /home/rasher/rockbox/build-env/src/rockbox/firmware/export/config.h:23:22: autoconf.h: No such file or directory 16.47.27 # could be my fault.. not sure why though 16.47.32 # * t0mas points at Bagder 16.47.35 # oh wait 16.47.38 # did you reconfigure? 16.47.45 # since.. eh... last week? 16.48.18 # I did just now 16.48.39 # and then it works? 16.48.56 # no, I mean I did before that 16.49.17 # let me try again to be sure 16.49.22 # ok 16.50.12 # sounds like autoconf broke 16.50.15 # * HCl will try 16.51.11 # same error 16.51.57 # first line... 16.51.58 # In file included from :2: 16.51.58 # export/config.h:23:22: autoconf.h: No such file or directory 16.52.00 # what're you building? 16.52.09 # HCl's plugin 16.52.09 # rockbox for iriver 16.52.12 # where is that? 16.52.27 # some place autoconf.h isn't included? 16.52.28 # CC databox.c 16.52.38 # is the line above 16.52.50 # * HCl is building... 16.56.40 # bum bum bum 16.56.48 # hrm.. 16.56.51 # anyone know good places to sell a laptop? 16.56.55 # I need to get rid of mine 16.57.14 # depends on which country you're in, I'd say 16.57.20 # ebay 16.57.20 # US 16.57.38 # I was gonna do ebay but they changed their fees.. bastards take like 4% of the closing cost 16.57.40 # I'd guess ebay as well 16.58.00 # * HCl will fix errors. 16.58.03 # its due to the new makefiles.. 17.00.11 # fixed. 17.00.17 # ok 17.00.18 # rasher, t0mas: try again? 17.00.23 # jup 17.02.52 # better? 17.02.53 # worked 17.03.49 # compiling ;) 17.04.05 # my laptop is pretty slow... 17.04.20 # and I had to do a total recompile :) 17.04.26 # "enter filename" .. of what? 17.04.57 # also, please lose the emoticon, it nearly overflowed with my font 17.05.03 # sorry :P 17.06.04 # I disable emoticons 17.06.09 # emoticons = evil! 17.07.31 # he ment in code ;) 17.07.33 # or errors 17.08.20 # can't I enter "end"? 17.09.02 # hm... someone started using basename in rockbox? or I killed my basename command... and it was used before :) 17.09.53 # nothing in the GPL says you can't sell it 17.10.03 # no DMJC 17.10.14 # you can sell GPL 17.12.58 # rasher: only when the search query is valid. 17.13.28 # well then I'm hosed 17.13.31 # can't I go back? 17.13.32 Join bagawk [0] (~Lee@bagawk.user) 17.14.16 # you can't cancel it when you selected a token to edit. 17.14.23 # but you can just select the old token o.o 17.14.30 # and you can go back as long as you're not editing one 17.14.37 # how 17.14.46 # just left/right 17.14.56 # that just changes 17.14.59 # what I'm on 17.15.11 # then press select when you're satisfied and then you can go left and right. 17.15.16 # what do you mean with go back? 17.15.16 # rec button = backspacew 17.15.18 # -w 17.15.40 # yes 17.15.51 # HCl: then I just get a new thing to edit o.O 17.16.32 # looks like I'm stuck 17.16.37 # oh. 17.16.40 # when you're at the end o.o.. 17.16.43 # it might do that XD 17.16.56 # it totally does 17.16.58 # HCl? how does it work? 17.17.03 # enter what filename? 17.17.04 # I'll have to reset now 17.17.06 # let me add the stop button stuff.. 17.17.09 # no. 17.17.11 # you don't. 17.17.15 # just make it form a valid query. 17.17.19 # and then you can select end. 17.17.23 # I can't 17.17.26 # why not? 17.17.35 # well it's invalid at the beginning, it seems 17.17.39 # ah. 17.17.39 # okay. 17.17.42 # then yea:X 17.17.43 # sorry. 17.17.46 # i'll go fix that right now... 17.17.51 # :) 17.18.03 # rasher: what did you type? 17.18.15 # how could I even possibly end up with an invalid query? 17.18.17 # filename of what? :) 17.18.24 # don't you check for valid inputs? 17.18.32 # t0mas: the searchfile generated, it seems 17.18.36 # oooh ok 17.18.54 # and then? 17.19.00 # I can select 17.19.03 # but what else? 17.19.54 # it behaves weirdly 17.20.20 # if I press right a bunch of times, it suddenly shows not 17.20.30 # yes 17.20.33 # then and 17.20.35 # that selecting a token 17.20.39 # then a while 17.20.45 # then tokentyperror 17.21.14 # well I have a long query 17.21.19 # but I can't exit it :P 17.21.41 Join thegeek [0] (~thegeek@ti521110a080-0285.bb.online.no) 17.22.20 # rasher: it has different editing modes. 17.22.24 # one enforces it to always be correct 17.22.30 # this one allows easier editing. 17.22.34 # checkout 17.22.40 # i added support for cancelling with the off button 17.23.07 # HCl: but how should I use it?? 17.23.22 # pretty much 17.23.32 # you compose a search query by selecting the various possibilities 17.23.42 # and when you're done you input an 17.23.44 # well... I'm to stupid... 17.23.45 # and it'll write the file to disk 17.23.49 # and then you can just click the file 17.23.52 # step 1: enter filename (what? nonexistant?) 17.23.55 # and it'll get opened with the searchengine 17.23.59 # yea 17.24.01 # you can feed it test 17.24.02 # ok, done 17.24.03 # and then? 17.24.05 # it can exist or non exist 17.24.15 # then select something like "year" 17.24.17 # (extension?) 17.24.22 # no extension needed 17.24.28 # it'll add .rsp by default 17.24.35 # ok 17.24.42 # well... it comes up with 17.24.49 # yes 17.24.54 # what button should I press to get to something usefull? 17.24.55 # you should be able to move the joypad 17.25.00 # to change it into something else 17.25.01 # left/right or up/down? 17.25.06 # all will work ;p 17.25.14 # yes, but I did that the first time 17.25.20 # left/down do the same and up/right do the same. 17.25.23 # came up with and, or, not 17.25.30 # thats not correct o.o; 17.25.40 # well that's what happens 17.25.40 # err.. 17.25.42 # * HCl checks 17.25.44 # left/right does nothing 17.25.50 # up does something... sometimes 17.25.57 # down does nothing... (untill now) 17.26.22 # doh. 17.26.23 # my bad. 17.26.24 # and a lot of tokentype errors 17.26.35 # i made a tiny screwup when trying to make the interface nicer 17.26.38 # that happens with new files 17.26.38 # ;x 17.26.43 # ghehe 17.26.43 # ok 17.26.51 # * lodesi is away: Occupé 17.27.16 # hold on 17.29.13 # stop doesn't seem to quit 17.29.38 # no, it doesn't. 17.29.45 # i'm getting to that x.x; 17.29.53 # like i said, its a crude editor at the moment, heh. 17.30.26 # sure 17.30.43 # * Moof idly ponders 17.30.55 # other than that, it seems to work 17.31.04 # but what happens when you "run" such a file? 17.31.13 # the search engine executes the search query 17.31.13 # it said "hits: 281" for my query 17.31.21 # and writes it to /search.m3u 17.31.21 # are those written anywhere? 17.31.27 # is there any particular reason I couldn't just put in another hard drive into my iRiver? 17.31.35 # huh 17.31.35 # Moof: they're hard to get. 17.31.41 # Moof: not if you can find one that fits 17.32.39 # HCl: ah, wasn't there when it exited 17.32.46 # didn't update dir contents 17.32.47 # Moof: another? like two disks in one player? 17.32.51 # odd 17.32.52 # it should 17.33.02 # going into another dir and back, it is now there 17.33.28 # add that to the tofix list 17.33.34 # in the thingstodo wiki page 17.33.45 # update dir contents when returning from plugin 17.34.05 # yes.. there was another place where that was needed.. can't remember what it was 17.34.52 # preglow: no, just a larger drive 17.35.11 # Moof: no problem, you can fit a 30 gig in a h120 and a 60 gig in the h140 17.35.27 # they're even pretty easy to get 17.35.52 # preglow: got any suppliers to hand? 17.35.57 # www.dapstore.com 17.36.38 # man I want to work with u people.. damn my low level programming n00bness 17.36.57 # You don't need low level experience really 17.37.02 # you'll have plenty of chance when the h3x0 bootloader is done 17.37.07 # most of rockbox is straight forward c 17.37.16 # well then 17.37.25 # * Aditya sits and waits till bootloader is done 17.37.34 # could be a while :) 17.37.39 # you can also use the simulators :PP 17.37.46 # eh.. got hw and an exam to keep be busy 17.40.05 # preglow 17.40.11 # can you plase explain what these simulators are? 17.40.20 # can I actually do stuff for the h300 using the simulators? 17.40.40 # or even help with the h1xx stuff.. e 17.45.23 # you can help the H1xx with sim 17.45.39 # setup a build environment... and download the rockbox-devel source from CVS 17.45.53 # and when running configure, chose the Simulator option 17.48.23 # hmmm. 17.48.26 # almost works 17.48.28 # except tha 17.48.28 # t 17.48.35 # now it also accepts empty files as valid 17.48.35 # D 17.48.38 # XD 17.48.41 # * HCl goes to fix 17.49.03 # or you could just assume that an empty file is the same as a file containging "" 17.49.27 # yes, that is the case 17.49.29 # ooooh 17.49.33 # I will try simulator then 17.50.37 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@pD9E7F277.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.50.47 # hi again 17.51.21 # evening 17.52.14 # do you guys just have the devel source zipped up somewherE? 17.52.22 # cvs. 17.52.30 # eh.. eclipse is a pain in the ass 17.52.30 # but you can download it in zipped form, i think. 17.52.37 # rockbox.org/daily 17.52.52 # okay 17.52.58 # stand by for an databox commit 17.53.06 # Aditya: are you using windows or linux? 17.53.07 # fixed the bug with new files 17.53.10 # I can get the latest source.. is that the devel source? 17.53.19 # HCl: Pls fix the red builds... 17.53.28 # i'm working on it >.< 17.53.32 # Aditya: yes it's devel 17.53.34 # tomas: I have both on dual boot.. I will prob use my laptop for this though.. it has slack 17.53.44 # ok, then just install cvs... 17.53.50 # en read the whttp://www.i-20.com/images/works/w196.jpg 17.53.52 # ah, button select undeclared. 17.53.52 # wooooops 17.53.53 # okay. 17.53.54 # LOL 17.54.15 # uhhh 17.54.17 # some way my Xchat copies when clicking on them... 17.54.23 # lots of naked people?? 17.54.33 # *and read the wiki* 17.54.36 # was my line 17.54.43 # but I clicked a link at the same time :) 17.54.58 # ok be back 17.55.03 Nick Aditya is now known as Aditya|Shower (~Aditya@pcp09495878pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) 17.55.05 # some weird artist :X 17.55.06 # http://www.spencertunick.com/ 17.57.43 # hm o.o.. 17.58.02 # "" disappears mysteriously 17.58.32 # I have " contains rock " 17.58.51 # when I move the cursor to one of the three first, disappears 17.58.53 # yea, thats normal. 17.59.24 # alright 17.59.40 # any plans to merge databox with the viewer? 18.00.09 # so the viewer opens up the editor, and then there's some way to generate the playlist? 18.00.27 # yes 18.00.27 # but 18.00.37 # i need a plugin_exec(filename, parameter) 18.00.40 # before that can happen 18.00.47 # why? 18.00.56 # to run the searchengine on the generated file 18.01.08 # they're never actually gonna get merged.. 18.01.11 # why not just have it all in one plugin? 18.01.24 # meh. 18.01.31 # i guess it wouldn't be hard.. 18.01.45 # but i don't want to! at least not right now XD 18.01.50 # I'm just not seeing the reason not to, but if there is one, do tell 18.02.01 # well, you can store intermediate search files 18.02.05 # that you can click to update the playlist for them 18.02.32 # i know my search will often be something like "all songs with rating >= and rating <= " 18.02.57 # and its nice if i can quickly update the playlist without having to re-input the search query. 18.03.07 # after rating more songs 18.03.21 # I don't see how that would be any different using "my" approach 18.03.45 # open the searchfile, press a button and it runs the query 18.04.39 # yea, i know you're right 18.04.47 # i thought you meant something like without a searchfile. 18.04.51 # anyways... 18.04.52 # oh, no 18.04.55 # it should be easy to merge them. 18.05.00 # yeah, that 18.05.01 # just stick searchengine right after databox 18.05.05 # 's what I thought 18.05.13 # i guess you have a good point. 18.05.17 # i'll get on that tonight. 18.05.30 # :) 18.05.40 # well, I'd stick searchengine in a function, called if some button is pressed 18.05.41 # but i've been like, fixing computers for 2 days straight. 18.05.44 # and i need a break XD 18.05.52 # rasher: sounds good to me, bbiab, food 18.06.00 # hopefully red is gone now 18.06.09 # Heh, sure enough, just coming up with ideas 18.06.31 # :) 18.06.36 # yea, and ideas are good. 18.06.40 # otherwise we can't improve :p 18.08.48 Quit bagawk ("Leaving") 18.09.12 # I'd also love if it asked for filename of the playlist - defaulting (if v-keyb allows) to search I guess 18.09.58 # seems it does, at least rename defaults to the current filename 18.10.38 # yes, it's possible to set the buffer before calling the keyboard function 18.10.45 # then it has a default value :) 18.10.51 # ah, that's clever 18.12.15 # HCl: merging them would also remove the need to run a plugin (which we all know is lots of work :) 18.12.40 # oh.. except for new searches 18.12.43 # :-\ 18.13.32 # that'd not be possible 18.13.40 # guess my approach needs some more work 18.15.31 # Why? 18.15.53 # The plugin could be used both as a viewer and a standalone plugin 18.16.15 # If started as a viewer, it would offer to run the query or edit it 18.16.29 # If run standalone, it would allow to create a new query 18.17.10 # ah 18.17.16 # didn't know that worked 18.17.31 # then yes, indeed it would 18.17.40 # It's actually simple 18.17.53 # A plugin always gets a parameter 18.17.59 # it would also cut the two-step creation of a new search+playlist down to one stop 18.18.03 # step. 18.18.04 # If run standalone, this parameter is NULL 18.18.06 # yes, thats easy to do. 18.18.08 # anyways. 18.18.11 # i'm not gonna merge them 18.18.26 # why not? pretty logical to have them both in one plug, if you ask me 18.18.35 # wait 18.18.37 # amiconn: but viewers don't show up in the pluginlist do they? 18.18.37 # i wasn't finished 18.18.38 # XD 18.18.45 # Heh, do explain 18.18.49 # i'm not gonna merge them while databox doesn't run on player yet. 18.19.08 # rasher: They don't (yet), since until now we don't have plugins for which this makes sense 18.19.26 # Ah, add a new parameter in viewers.conf? 18.20.10 # HCl: alright, that makes sense 18.20.32 # * HCl was sort of hoping amiconn could look at it for the player :X 18.20.39 # why doesn't it, by the way? 18.20.44 # i have no idea what the player even looks like 18.20.49 # HCl: Please don't change the button #defines! 18.20.49 # charcells.... 18.20.51 # because the interface isn't designed for it o.o 18.20.57 # amiconn: i was just adding :X it made sense to me. 18.21.05 Quit ]RowaN[ () 18.21.06 # It doesn't 18.21.10 # why not x.x 18.21.26 # now you can do BUTTON_PLAY and actually get the play button on iriver 18.21.27 # There should in no case be two defines with the same value 18.21.29 # damn... I want gapless 18.21.37 # urfl. 18.21.39 # fine :/ 18.21.47 # This will most certain screw the button handling in the sims at least 18.21.56 # hm... that's something I wonderd about... why isn't the PLAY button the iriver play button? 18.22.13 # there's no dedicated iriver play button 18.22.16 # I guess 18.22.58 # BUTTON_PLAY is joystick pushed? 18.23.05 # huh? I ment why is BUTTON_PLAY linked to the "select" button (joystick) 18.23.09 # yes preglow 18.23.11 # the on button is what has the actualy play symbol 18.23.15 # yes 18.23.31 # indeed 18.23.36 # on and play are the same button. 18.23.44 # it makes no sense to me to not do #define BUTTON_PLAY BUTTON_ON 18.23.50 # but ok 18.23.53 # i took my define out 18.23.54 # and I know it now... but when it asks to press PLAY to reboot.. I can imagine some people pressing the actual play butoon... 18.23.55 # and moved it to databox 18.24.09 # ah, so thats why rolo wasn't working 18.24.10 # o.o 18.24.11 # yeah, i actually consider that quite confusing 18.24.15 # t0mas: that's because it's using an old string 18.24.26 # amiconn? what's your problem with the buttons? 18.24.29 # there's only one language-string for that dialog 18.24.54 # I did it as viewer does... #define LP_STOP = some_key and on player some_other_key 18.25.17 # rasher: yes, but switching the buttons would solve that too? 18.25.22 # same thing with delete 18.25.35 # but that's not the plan 18.25.42 # it's the right button, text is wrong 18.26.22 # hm... maybe the keypad thing should be done different... 18.27.15 # I don't know to what atm... but I guess someone can come up with something smart ;) 18.27.33 # seems sane enough to me 18.28.10 # t0mas: Yes, defining local macros depending on CONFIG_KEYPAD is the way that almost all places use to deal with the varying button layout 18.28.23 # ok, what did HCl do then? 18.28.24 # each function just has to keep in mind that the devices don't use the same buttons 18.28.29 # redefining the original? 18.28.32 # yes 18.28.39 # ah, ok 18.28.39 # he changed it now to do basically what you did 18.28.53 # except in less obvious way 18.28.59 # This method (along with the standard way to distinguish short/ long press) was invented after [IDC]Dragon and me started the Ondio port 18.29.19 # Before we had that, there were serious compilation problems due to double #defines 18.29.30 # <|it|ChasKi`> Guys, what build do i download for the iHP-140? 18.29.59 # So that's why I said there should never be double #defines again... 18.30.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.30.09 # |it|ChasKi`: what do you want with it? 18.30.40 # <|it|ChasKi`> t0mas: Ehhmm, i'm a n00b to all this, just want to put Rockbox on meh iHP-140 hehe 18.30.46 # because, if you use e.g #define BUTTON_PLAY BUTTON_SELECT , and then use both in a switch, you'll get a compilation error... 18.30.57 # |it|ChasKi`: have you read the iriver for n00bs section in wiki? 18.31.45 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverPortStatusForNoobs 18.31.47 # Imho the button assignments for the iriver are indeed a bit misleading, because they're based on the recorder keypad... but only half-way 18.31.50 # and http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverPortForNoobs 18.31.59 Join TCK- [0] (TCK@81-86-209-159.dsl.pipex.com) 18.32.27 Quit MoosCamaro (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.32.33 # amiconn: it's not a problem now... for us... but when a lot of people start using rockbox... and don't know the recorder, or any other rockbox background, it can cause some trouble 18.32.35 Join MoosCamaro [0] (MoosCamaro@m214.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 18.32.46 # yes 18.33.09 # The only problem is changing the text for these few places where the button is mentioned by name 18.34.38 # ah we will find those... or other people will... and start asking questions 18.34.54 # Rolo, Delete 18.35.32 # mmmm 18.35.35 Nick Aditya|Shower is now known as Aditya (~Aditya@pcp09495878pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) 18.35.44 # HCl: Your button handling is... strange.... 18.37.07 Join ]RowaN[ [0] (a2b0y@82-43-214-171.cable.ubr10.newm.blueyonder.co.uk) 18.37.16 # hey rowan 18.38.53 # HCl: I could try to adapt the plugin for the player as well, but I don't want to interfere with your changes 18.39.38 # ...Ondio as well 18.40.14 # I don't understand why it shouldn't work 18.40.48 # Some changes required in the button handling 18.41.08 # ...plus a differnt print function for player (charcells) 18.41.27 # Btw, the plugin also doesn't handle USB 18.41.30 # (yet) 18.44.18 # go ahead.. 18.44.25 # please 18.44.26 # heh 18.44.32 # i'm done with making changes, for now. 18.44.40 # just don't change the main loop too much o.o. 18.44.48 # Okay 18.44.49 # it still has some operations that need to be added 18.44.53 # like insert, and delete 18.45.03 # and proper implementation of the 3 editing modes 18.45.21 # * HCl in the meanwhile fixes his dads pc which is having an illegal (!) windows xp pro key 18.45.22 # I'll change the button handling to use a switch(), and proper #defines per model for the various button functions 18.45.30 # and its refusing to upgrade to win xp sp2 cause of that 18.45.43 # sounds okay 18.45.43 # Change the key... 18.45.48 # yea 18.45.49 # i am. 18.45.58 # got one. 18.45.59 # install linux? :P 18.46.03 # Then I'll try to add a player print function 18.46.16 # Of course this can't use invert... 18.46.31 # Thinking about using brackets or similar 18.50.10 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.50.12 # hmm 18.50.17 # the wavpack guy has submitted a patch 18.50.34 # i wonder i might not just as well upgrade to a newer wavpack 18.52.16 # ahh, there is no new tiny decoder 18.53.55 # so nothing to fix for rockbox? 18.54.51 # this is a wv2wav fix, it seems 18.55.59 # i'll just commit this patch 18.57.09 # * lodesi is back (gone 01:30:18) 18.57.52 # this is the guy who doesn't use irc or im, right? 18.58.43 # hey guys.. just a question.. is the simulator a prog that will actually show what the UI will look like on the h1xx? 18.58.51 # yes 18.58.57 # it shows the screen 18.59.00 Join austriancoder [0] (~austrianc@80.120.117.30) 18.59.10 # exactly like on the device 18.59.14 # hoi 18.59.20 # sweet 18.59.20 Quit lodesi ("Leaving") 18.59.26 # I think the windows sims show an image of the device as well? 18.59.32 # evening austriancoder 19.00.25 Join Chamois [0] (~Chamois@champigny-5-82-226-182-23.fbx.proxad.net) 19.01.00 # rasher: correct 19.01.12 # so, how do i go about closing the patch or whatever? 19.01.37 # I think you need to be added as a patch-admin or something like that 19.01.42 # ahh 19.01.50 Join Stryke` [0] (~Chairman8@resnet-241-86.resnet.UMBC.EDU) 19.02.07 # * preglow wipes the dust off of his sf login 19.02.14 # heh 19.02.43 # * rasher prods bagder 19.03.30 Join StrathAFK [0] (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a252.wi.tds.net) 19.10.45 # I'm not here ;-) 19.10.51 # I'll be back around midnight 19.11.17 # * preglow gets a surreal feeling 19.11.29 # nothing important, just that the wavpack patch needed to be closed, or preglow made a patchadmin or whatever 19.11.35 # preglow: ? 19.12.07 # did anything ever happen with the proportional font support? 19.12.13 # in the viewer? 19.12.15 # i see pillos attempt is in the patch tracker 19.12.26 # I've had it applied to my viewer for a while 19.12.30 # seems to work just fine 19.12.42 Join ardy [0] (~ryoung@G2A-186.ussonet.net) 19.12.48 # then what's keeping it away from the main tree? player support? 19.12.55 # no idea 19.13.02 # I don't think amiconn has tested it 19.13.09 # or anyone else, for that matter 19.13.14 # i'll test it now 19.13.49 # do you need a special font, or? 19.14.02 # I tried, but realised I didn't have anything in my archos dir for the sim, got frustrated as I couldn't remember the keys for closing it, then got distracted 19.14.08 # no, it Just Works 19.17.49 # you mean It Just Works (tm) :P 19.18.07 Quit Aditya ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") 19.18.07 # Yes, sorry 19.18.25 # can't say i notice much of a difference? 19.18.38 Part ardy ("Leaving") 19.18.45 Join Aditya [0] (~Aditya@pcp09495878pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) 19.18.59 # *sigh* .. closed all of gaim instead of jus tthe buddy list.. 19.19.03 Quit Strath (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.19.37 # preglow: no, but on bitmap displays.. 19.20.17 # with a proportional font, that is 19.20.24 # ahh, yes 19.20.37 # my h120 doesn't have a bitmap display? :P 19.20.46 # I thought you were trying on the playersim 19.20.58 # i never use the sims 19.21.01 # (which looks fine, btw) 19.21.10 # damn 19.21.20 # the viewer with proportional font is Sweet now 19.21.20 # damn? 19.21.26 # yes 19.21.30 # try the reflow mode 19.21.40 # it's absolutely beautiful 19.21.48 # I have some horribly formatted textfiles 19.21.59 # with linebreaks all over the place 19.22.02 # I know what causes the strange chars in the filename input in databox... 19.22.05 # which end up being nice 19.22.11 # rasher: how do i reflow? 19.22.18 # found it :P 19.22.21 # dAMN 19.22.23 # this is nice 19.22.32 # Yes 19.22.41 # the indenting is a bit much if you ask me 19.22.52 # it's way too much 19.22.58 # but that's very easily fixable 19.23.10 # I changed a 9 to a 5 or a 5 to a 9, somewhere 19.23.20 # 9 to a 5, i'd guess 19.23.30 # think i'd just use 4 19.23.36 # no, it was some mad calculation 19.23.46 # I'm pretty sure it was 5 to 9, actually 19.25.08 # okay, maybe not 19.26.18 # man 19.26.22 # you guys suck 19.26.26 # now I realllly want to see :P 19.26.30 # damn hw 19.26.38 # set up a sim 19.27.05 # daym 19.27.17 # this patch is permanent in my hacked rockbox tree from now on 19.27.27 # it should be in the main tree 19.27.41 # need someone to test it on a real player I guess 19.28.05 # or maybe not 19.28.17 # well, yes 19.28.20 # I'm guessing it doesn't touch much non-bitmap related 19.28.28 # this thing suddenly become a viable choice for reading shit for me now 19.28.31 # recorder is probably more needing for fix 19.28.36 # s/fix/test/ 19.29.07 # there's just one proportional font? 19.29.13 # there are a bunch 19.29.39 # I actually think most are 19.30.04 # except the YxZ ones' 19.30.16 # the standard one was pretty decent 19.30.55 # okay, not a lot of proportional fonts it seems :) 19.32.56 # a bit on the small size imho 19.32.58 # does someone have to add me to the project? 19.33.00 # or can i do that myself? 19.33.09 # im talking about sf, yes 19.33.14 # I don't think you can 19.33.25 # i like it small 19.33.31 # fits a lot onto the screen 19.33.51 # that it does 19.36.27 # hey would it hurt if I install all the packages for cygwin? 19.37.27 # probably not, just take a while 19.42.35 # hmm k 19.42.38 # [19:22:11] I know what causes the strange chars in the filename input in databox... <-- the buffer wasn't set to '\0' or something? 19.42.48 # t0mas: exactly 19.42.55 # yes, I had that too 19.43.06 # I added a memset(filename, 0, sizeof filename) locally 19.43.11 # ghehe 19.43.15 # Currently fiddling with the button handling 19.43.19 # * t0mas just did buffer[0] = '\0' 19.43.33 # It _should_ work now for all models 19.43.40 # debugf calls.. where can i see the output? 19.43.45 # ...only I didn't add printing for charcells yet 19.43.46 # in the simulator 19.43.53 # austriancoder: not on device.. 19.44.18 # austriancoder: Either in the simulator, or when you build a debug version (and have a gdb stub and hookup to use it) 19.44.25 # not good 19.44.25 # for on device debugging you must write to a .txt file somewhere... and afterwards read it with the viewer :) 19.44.38 # amiconn: there is no gdb stub yet afaik? 19.44.41 # .txt file is what i need 19.44.47 # not for iriver 19.44.55 # ;( 19.44.59 # Only for archos recorders and player 19.45.04 # (not possible on Ondio) 19.45.07 # austriancoder: take a look at HCl's dynarec core 19.45.23 # amiconn: did you try the new viewer thing? 19.45.25 # you can just copy/paste his debug to file code :) 19.45.26 # austriancoder: I usually use a lot of splash()es for debugging 19.45.48 # that's a way too... 19.46.15 # * t0mas just redefined the DEBUGF() to write to a file... 19.46.29 # splashes seems to be the way 19.46.38 # i need it for dirver debugging 19.46.50 # ah, then it isn't a problem to fuck up your scree 19.46.50 # n 19.47.03 # austriancoder: That's what I did for MMC driver debugging 19.48.36 # where is splash defined? 19.49.05 # austriancoder? ... I keeel you! 19.49.40 # :| 19.50.13 # you don't get it? :P 19.50.18 # I dont know.. I had to say that.. 19.50.43 # found it ;) 19.50.48 # i am a lazy body 19.50.50 # (arnold schwarzenegger) 19.50.52 # :P 19.51.00 Join rob- [0] (~robbie@haylott.plus.com) 19.51.21 # is there a todo list that actually has somehting thats not being worked on? 19.51.35 # all the ones on http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ThingsTodo .. are already taken 19.51.59 # HCl: Is there a reason why left/down increase the selections, while right/up decrease them? Imho the other way round would make more sense... 19.52.43 # he was holding it upside down? 19.52.54 # haha ;) 19.53.01 # =P 19.53.06 # hmm.. still dling.. 19.53.11 # The flipped display mode already cares of flipping the direction buttons 19.53.25 # * t0mas thinks he has a partner in crime for late night bad jokes :P 19.54.10 Quit thegeek (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.54.19 # wtf?? 19.54.28 # you're from the US right? :P 19.54.31 # cygwin stopped instaling and went back to start of install 19.54.37 # yeah I am from the US 19.54.48 # ok, that's the right wakeup time :) 19.54.49 # and yes.. I am def ur partner if it is about bad jokes :P 19.55.11 # :D 19.55.30 # afk 19.55.35 # bye 19.55.45 # oh screw this.. I will just use linux 19.57.16 # do so 19.57.20 # it's ten times nicer 19.57.31 # * t0mas still uses a mix 19.57.38 # building takes ages on cygwin, I hear 19.57.45 # yes it does 19.58.04 # full iriver build takes about 6 to 8 minutes... on Athlon XP 3200 19.58.23 # ouch 19.58.33 # takes about 2 minutes on this xp2400 19.58.38 # guessing 19.58.47 # full iriver build is done in about two minutes on duron 1.3ghz 19.59.00 # yes, my laptop does it in 2 to 3 minutes... 19.59.04 # celeron 800 19.59.26 # never tried the athlon in linux... don't even know if I have a crosscompiler there :) 20.00.37 # 1 minute and 2 seconds on 1.3 ghz duron 20.01.10 # * t0mas gets tempted to reboot and try in linux :P 20.01.12 # so if cygwin uses SIX minutes for that, it's slow indeed 20.01.25 # yes it takes 6 minutes 20.01.50 # * t0mas can get a drink... search for some chips... read 3 emails and be bored for a while when it's compiling in windows 20.02.05 # what the.. 20.02.08 # real 1m33.804s 20.02.12 # * rasher punches things 20.02.32 # mandb running at 99,5% cpu might have something to do with that 20.02.34 # * preglow strokes gentoo 20.03.19 # come to think of it, don't think I compiled the crosscompiler for this processor 20.03.28 # *shrug* 20.03.43 # * t0mas times a make in cygwin 20.03.46 # me neither 20.03.50 # and starts writing his article again 20.05.01 # real 0m54.212s 20.05.04 # that's more like it 20.05.13 # * rasher curses at mandb 20.05.27 # * t0mas doesn't have mandb... 20.05.46 # and the updatedb of locate is only done at night 20.06.27 # I'm not even sure what mandb is doing 20.06.34 # but it seems to have been at it for a while 20.08.05 Nick Sucka`away is now known as Sucka (~NNSCRIPT@host81-156-210-48.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) 20.09.08 # i need someone with a rockbox player with an fm tuner - no iriver people 20.09.22 # my compile is still running :X 20.09.35 # its at CC gray_fillrect.c now 20.09.45 # amiconn 20.10.02 # (or doesn't his recorder have fm?) 20.12.48 # DAMN 20.12.54 # preglow, rasher: real 9m5.774s 20.13.04 # nice 20.13.04 # it's even longer than I thought it was... 20.13.09 # on a computer faster than mine 20.13.25 # jup... not really a slow pc... XP 3200+ 1024 mb ram... 20.14.11 # tomas: is this the compile time for the river rockbox? 20.14.13 # imagine my celeron 800 laptop running windows+cygwin :X 20.14.20 # austriancoder: yes, full compile in cygwin 20.14.50 # ah.. my linux is much faster ;) 20.14.58 # yes, mine too :) 20.15.04 # cygwin is a pig 20.15.22 # real 0m38.207s 20.15.33 # t0mas: dAMN, man 20.15.35 # it's about 2 minutes on my celeron... 20.15.50 # just 800 mhz... and iirc 256 mb mem... maybe 384 20.16.14 # * austriancoder has a pentium M 1.70GHz 20.16.21 # rebooting to linux, compiling and rebooting to windows might even be faster than compiling in cygwin here 20.16.35 # haha 20.16.44 # austriancoder: now that's interesting 20.16.52 # "real 0m11.468s" 20.16.57 # cygwin can be fast... 20.17.07 # when there's nothing to do... 20.17.20 # nobody here with a fm tuner working with rockbox?! 20.17.25 # real 0m0.855s 20.17.47 # I think it's mostly iriver people these days 20.17.54 # rasher: that's make time when nothing has to be done??? 20.18.01 # yes 20.18.04 # damn... 20.18.07 # cygwin really is slow... 20.18.14 # certainly 20.18.17 # rasher: ok.. 20.18.45 # austriancoder: you've got it working for iriver? but not sure if it still works for the archos chip? 20.20.04 # tomas: not yet.. i am working on the audio output of the fm part.. 20.20.12 # ok 20.21.19 # should be that hard ;) 20.24.37 Join amiconn_ [0] (~jens@pD9E7F277.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.25.37 Quit amiconn (Read error: 148 (No route to host)) 20.25.37 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (~jens@pD9E7F277.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.27.17 # austriancoder: What's the problem with fm? 20.27.42 # (and no, I don't have an fm recorder, but my sis has an Ondio fm) 20.28.28 # there should be a list of which developers/peoplewillingtotest owns which devices 20.28.44 # Start 6ne ; 20.28.51 # *one 20.29.11 # I guess :) 20.29.19 # * t0mas smiles gently at rasher "You can stat a wiki page." 20.29.27 # This list should also contain which sim platforms this dev could test on 20.29.28 # but it might be a lot of work ;) 20.29.47 # * rasher does indeed start a wikipage 20.30.04 # amiconn: can't all people test all platforms' sims? 20.30.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.30.20 # I mean windows vs. linux 20.30.24 # ah 20.30.31 # Some can test both though 20.30.45 # I'll add that 20.31.01 # HCl: r u there? 20.31.01 # any ideas for names? 20.31.05 # just let everybody add him (don't have to add her?) self? 20.31.10 # ehm... 20.31.27 # DeviceTestingList or just TestingList 20.31.28 # yes, I'm certainly not going to add everyone :) 20.31.31 # or PlatformTesting 20.31.33 # I already have my wiki page all setup 20.31.41 # rockboxtesting? 20.31.45 # with WikiWikiCaps, that is 20.31.46 # that snouds ok 20.31.57 # * t0mas doesn't like the caps... 20.31.59 # :P 20.32.39 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/AdityaGaddam -- wheeeeee 20.33.53 # * t0mas doesn't say anthing about his page... nor disclose his lastname :P 20.34.23 # heh 20.35.05 # ahum... 20.35.29 # "I like Windows in general because programs just work. Macs are ok, but OSX annoys me to no end. Linux is secure and stable, but I will probably never use it as a desktop." <-- You know that remark you always get with the "Linux doesn't work" comment? :P 20.35.55 # "It's just better to use things that work than jump around excited because a program actually compiles." 20.36.37 # LOL 20.36.39 # hosted on: Initiating server query ... 20.36.39 # Looking up IP address for domain: www.adityagaddam.com 20.36.39 # The IP address for the domain is: 69.93.114.218 20.36.39 DBUG Enqueued KICK t0mas 20.36.39 # Connecting to the server on standard HTTP port: 80 20.36.39 # [Connected] Requesting the server's default page. 20.36.40 *** Alert Mode level 1 20.36.40 # The server returned the following response headers: 20.36.42 # HTTP/1.1 200 OK 20.36.44 # Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 18:36:34 GMT 20.36.46 # Server: Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) mod_auth_passthrough/1.8 mod_log_bytes/1.2 mod_bwlimited/1.4 PHP/4.3.9 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 mod_ssl/2.8.22 OpenSSL/0.9.7a 20.36.49 # X-Powered-By: PHP/4.3.9 20.36.51 # Connection: close 20.36.53 # Transfer-Encoding: chunked 20.36.55 # Content-Type: text/html 20.36.57 # Query complete. 20.37.01 # woooops, copied a little to much 20.37.13 # "Apache/1.3.33 (Unix)" was what I ment to copy :) 20.39.53 # hmm? 20.39.57 # ur point? 20.40.02 # you mean its on unix? 20.40.06 # yes 20.40.10 # of course 20.40.15 # a server != desktop 20.40.19 Join TCK [0] (TCK@81-86-209-179.dsl.pipex.com) 20.40.37 Join amiconn_ [0] (~jens@pD9E7F277.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.40.41 # and I don't like the "Windows is ok because it's simple" point 20.40.49 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 20.40.49 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (~jens@pD9E7F277.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.40.52 # merf. 20.40.53 # simple? 20.40.55 # when did I say that? 20.41.15 # oh wait, you said it was more usable 20.41.23 # I said stuff installs and it works.. 20.41.39 # It does too here 20.41.41 # as apposed me having to search for libraries and dependencies 20.41.46 # yes, and it does that on linux too ;) 20.41.48 # in fact, much easier than on windows 20.41.54 # apt-get install someprogram 20.41.54 # done 20.41.59 # or emerge on gentoo 20.42.05 # or urpmi on mandrake 20.42.06 # or urpmi on mandrake 20.42.08 # damn you 20.42.09 # ghehe 20.42.18 # yeah.. that part is getting better.. especially on slack.. 20.42.36 # but then you want to use photoshop.. or worse.. flash.. 20.42.39 # well I think your experience with slack is seriously affecting that idea of yours 20.43.10 # I dont know.. for most things, windows works for me.. I dont really see much of a point in switching right now 20.43.10 # Aditya: flash installed with a few clicks here.. 20.43.20 # t0mas.. I mean flash editor 20.43.22 # not player 20.43.25 # ah ok 20.43.26 # I do web design stuff 20.43.27 # you haven't had to hunt down libraries or dependencies for many years on most distros 20.43.29 # so I need that 20.43.31 # well... I'm running windows now :) 20.43.38 # but that's not because I like it.. 20.43.50 # I am not saying I dont like linux 20.43.56 # some custom tools for my work are only availible on windows :( 20.44.00 # I think its awesome.. just wont use it for a desktop right now 20.44.00 # mrf. 20.44.10 # and I think I made that point clear 20.44.25 # jup, maybe but that on the page... 20.44.28 # I just made that page because I am sick of people putting up similar pages (mainly for macs) 20.44.35 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxTesting 20.44.44 # err 20.44.45 # rasher 20.44.45 # and I have turned into some sort of a mac disliking person latelhy 20.44.51 # maybe the other way around is better? 20.44.59 # the other way round? 20.45.06 # make a list of devs... and a collumn for the player.. filled with V or empty 20.45.13 # :- 20.45.16 # :-/ 20.45.22 # actually that makes more sense 20.45.23 # as this lists are going to become very very long I guess 20.45.29 # oh 20.45.29 # hmm 20.45.31 # true 20.45.40 # I'd say you'd usually want to take a player, see who has one of those 20.45.49 # so it should be a group of people for each device 20.45.56 # HCl: YOur token_buf is waaaay too large for the archos plugin space... 20.45.58 # *shrug* 20.46.22 # yeah... but looking up one collumn for people having it isn't much more work... 20.46.29 # and it's way better readable... 20.46.41 *** Alert Mode OFF 20.47.03 # :-/ 20.47.12 # hang on 20.47.13 # but... this is usable too :) 20.47.39 # oh... and maybe add a note: "Please don't forget to release the lock when adding yourself." 20.47.57 # heh 20.48.01 # well, you can still edit the page 20.48.25 # :) 20.49.09 # well, release 20.49.10 # d 20.50.09 # It crashes :( 20.50.12 # I didn't mean you had to release it... 20.57.30 # much better... 20.58.42 # t0mas: well unreleased pages are annoying 20.58.50 # i have a question 20.59.04 # shoot it austriancoder 20.59.41 Join thegeek [0] (~thegeek@ti521110a080-0285.bb.online.no) 20.59.52 # in radio.c functions like audio_init_playback are used.. should i port them to iriver or should i use #ifdef IRIVER_H100 21.00.36 Quit TCK- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.01.13 # austriancoder: I'd say #ifdef them out for iriver for now; they're for controlling the audio thread 21.01.23 # ...which is not yet functional on iriver 21.02.13 # ok.. will go this way 21.06.26 # Aditya? that free mp3 player... what have you bought from them? 21.06.37 # or am I misunderstanding something on their site? 21.11.53 # you dont buy anything 21.11.54 Quit TCK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.12.03 # you sign up (free) 21.12.09 # you do one of the offers on the offers page 21.12.35 # then you get 5 people to do the same (they will use ur referral link so the free iriver people know ur friends signed up under you) 21.12.42 # whatwhere 21.13.00 # its pretty clear in their FAQs 21.13.00 # oh, one of theses pyramid scheme things 21.13.04 # nope 21.13.08 # not a pyramid scheme 21.13.09 # yes 21.13.10 # I read that 21.13.14 # sure it is 21.13.15 # but what is that offer thing? 21.13.27 # offers are basically trial offers 21.13.31 # like blockbuster or w/e 21.13.38 # ah, and what did you do? 21.13.49 # "then you get 5 people to do the same (they will use ur referral link so the free iriver people know ur friends signed up under you)" == pyramid 21.13.58 # rasher.. 21.13.59 # no 21.14.05 # yes 21.14.06 # a pyramid scheme works differently 21.14.11 # no ;) 21.14.20 # there might be twists 21.14.24 # but it's still a pyramid 21.14.35 # well .. I don't need to prove anything.. I got my free iriver.. 21.14.43 # if you dont want to try.. ur loss 21.14.55 # but as I was saying.. this is like a referral program 21.15.04 # dude 21.15.09 # it's a pyramid 21.15.10 # which is a fancy word for pyramid scheme 21.15.10 # you always have to do exactly 1 offer and have to refer exactly 5 people 21.15.13 # STOP 21.15.13 # now 21.15.17 # fine 21.15.18 # w/e 21.15.20 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 21.15.20 # * t0mas has seen this happening before 21.15.27 # heh 21.15.27 # argument leading nowhere... 21.15.33 # I dont care if you guys dont want it.. I already have mine 21.15.34 # 99% of pyramids are scams 21.15.39 # haha 21.15.42 # there is always that 1% 21.15.44 # but still 21.15.44 # except for effnet... there it's normally leading to a flood war 21.15.47 # take this privately, please 21.15.55 # www.mp3players4freeguide.com 21.15.58 # check their forums 21.16.04 # loads of people getting their free stuff 21.16.14 # this has also been featured on BBC and such 21.16.15 # so yeah 21.16.24 # but my question was... w/o starting this again... "What offer did you do Aditya?" 21.16.38 # I did the AOL offer.. but I don't think thats there anymore 21.17.01 # mainly because my cable was down and I needed a replacement for a while.. fitted perfectly :P 21.17.08 # ok 21.17.13 # then just cancelled after I got credit (after like 2-3 days) 21.17.17 # tomas 21.17.25 # I would read up before signing up for offers 21.17.28 # like on forums and such 21.17.39 # some offers are better in the sense that they give credit faster.. and are easier to cancel 21.17.57 # ok, but I don't live in the US 21.18.08 # where do you live? 21.18.11 # and I don't trust these things normally... but that's my personal opinion 21.18.13 # For the record, I never said it was a scam, or that people don't get their stuff. 21.18.19 # the Netherlands 21.18.22 # oh 21.18.23 Join TCK [0] (TCK@81-86-208-250.dsl.pipex.com) 21.18.23 # eh 21.18.28 # yeah its canada + usa only 21.18.31 # yes, the weed country 21.18.34 # to have said that :P 21.18.42 # http://www.pixelfaction.com/blog/?itemid=23 -- for those who don't think its legit 21.18.52 # rasher.. I was mainly arguing thegeek.. but ok :P 21.18.57 # hehe 21.19.04 # I know a lot of 4free stuff is for real 21.19.09 # but there are even more scams 21.19.26 # 75% of the internet is a scam 21.19.30 # hehe 21.20.15 # eh 21.20.18 # I was skeptical 21.20.20 # preglow: "free porn" 21.20.24 # but a bunch of friends got it 21.20.26 # so I tried it 21.20.28 # got mine =P 21.20.51 # now I need to get one last referral for cameras4free and I will have 300 bucks 21.21.23 # well 21.21.23 # hmm 21.21.26 # thx tomas.. 21.21.33 # u just took up 20 minutes 21.21.41 # sorry :) 21.21.49 # now I have half hour to finish this stupid online quiz 21.21.57 Nick Aditya is now known as Aditya|BeBackQui (~Aditya@pcp09495878pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) 21.22.30 # 21:35 - 06:34 = 15:01 21.22.36 # ooooh 21.22.39 # it's not that bad :P 21.26.38 # ohno, its me. 21.26.44 # what'd i miss 21.28.06 # amiconn: the reason for the selection down/up is because the array goes from the top down eg, item1 is stored in 0, item2 in 1 etc o.o 21.33.09 # I already have databox sort of working on player 21.33.13 # * HCl goes to shower and clean and other stuff 21.33.14 # nice :3 21.33.18 # Only one thing is needed 21.33.18 # i'll look at it when i get back 21.33.40 # I have to make the printing keep the marked item on-screen 21.33.55 # ..and it seems I found a bug in the player keypad 21.34.10 # mm? 21.34.11 # what bug 21.34.12 # ? 21.34.16 # It seems to not disable the blinking cursor 21.34.27 # ah 21.34.33 # Looking somewhat funny... 21.36.07 # Btw, this 'keep marked item visible' handling is also needed for the other devices, if you really want to use up the allowed token count... 21.36.48 # I'll leave that out for now... 21.37.49 Join gromit` [0] (~gromit`@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 21.40.15 Join amiconn_ [0] (~jens@pD9E7F277.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.40.27 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 21.40.27 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (~jens@pD9E7F277.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.40.33 # mrf, wlan... 21.42.31 # ghehe 21.42.52 # * t0mas wlan + vnc's only... then IRC isn't dropped when I walk out of reach 21.42.59 # screen! 21.43.13 # * rasher runs most things inside screen 21.44.20 # windows! 21.44.53 # screen rocks on servers yes... compiling a new kernel (or firefox) in a screen session is useful.. 21.45.00 # as you can reconnect later to see if it has finished 21.49.07 Join amiconn_ [0] (~jens@pD9E7F277.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.49.13 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 21.49.14 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (~jens@pD9E7F277.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.52.49 # * HCl wlans with putty 21.52.58 # with screen :) 21.54.01 Nick austriancoder is now known as ac_away (~austrianc@80.120.117.30) 21.57.38 Join amiconn_ [0] (~jens@pD9E7F277.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.58.07 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 21.58.08 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (~jens@pD9E7F277.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.58.12 # hmpf :(( 22.00.28 # bbl 22.00.30 Part amiconn 22.02.31 Quit lostlogic (brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.02.31 NSplit brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 22.02.31 Quit Ka (brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.02.42 NHeal brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 22.02.42 NJoin lostlogic [0] (~lostlogic@node-4024215a.mdw.onnet.us.uu.net) 22.02.42 NJoin Ka [0] (~tkirk@pcp0010733332pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net) 22.03.15 # * HCl ish back 22.07.20 # http://bash.org/?500890 22.07.21 # lmao. 22.07.34 # * HCl doesn't usually like bash quotes, but this one is okish :p 22.08.11 # <|it|ChasKi`> lmao 22.17.11 # hmz... 22.17.13 # weird.. 22.17.23 # bash.org is _very_ slow here 22.19.59 # lol 22.20.04 # that one is funney yeah 22.20.06 # *funny 22.21.17 # hmm you're right 22.21.22 # bash is suddenly slow for me too 22.22.25 # hm.. some lamo kiddie flooding it or something 22.24.30 # 20 packets transmitted, 6 packets received, 70% packet loss 22.24.34 # weird 22.28.22 # http://bash.org/?500874 -- lol 22.28.35 # and damn HCl.. got me reading bash lol 22.28.38 Nick Aditya|BeBackQui is now known as Aditya (~Aditya@pcp09495878pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) 22.28.56 # LOL 22.29.02 # that one is good yes... 22.29.54 # http://bash.org/?501495 22.30.05 # i hate such sites 22.30.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.30.10 # everytime you start reading, you can't stop 22.30.16 # another one, another one.. :) 22.30.23 # lol o.o 22.30.57 # mmm.. I love this one quote.. 22.31.02 # http://bash.org/?4281 22.31.09 # thats my all time favorite.. 22.33.04 # mmm, what have i started, heh. 22.33.34 # 97/100.. good enough 22.33.56 Join Tang [0] (~chatzilla@ARennes-252-1-20-211.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr) 22.37.09 # k 22.37.12 # off to the gym 22.37.18 Nick Aditya is now known as Aditya|GYM (~Aditya@pcp09495878pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) 22.38.13 # HCl: http://www.irc.pc-active.nl/quotes.php?page=6#40 22.38.19 # the only funny quote on activenet :P 22.38.38 # and the only international one 22.45.29 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@pD95D10FA.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.45.43 # wb 22.46.02 # tnx 22.46.12 # Back on wired lan :) 22.46.29 # hehe 22.48.22 # Did you get my remark concerning 'keep active item visible'? 22.48.40 # somewhat 22.48.50 # you mean when someone inserts an insane search query 22.49.27 # Depends on the display size... and later on the selection of fonts, perhaps 22.50.08 # Your original code allocated space for 200 tokens. Though I had to reduce that to 70 to make it fit on archos, this is still a lot... 22.50.15 # yea 22.50.21 # should be plenty. 22.50.44 # On player, the 'keep visible problem already strikes at the 3rd..4th token 22.50.52 # *nods* 22.51.01 # how did you solve it? 22.51.31 # Not yet 22.51.34 # k 22.51.38 # And for some reason the lcd_clear_display() doesn't seem to work right here too... strange... 22.52.07 # it does when you put an lcd_update straight after it.. 22.52.20 # There is not lcd_update() on the player... 22.52.25 # *no 22.52.31 # mmm... 22.52.38 # needs some looking at 22.52.42 # maybe something for the tofix list. 22.53.53 # Such things should be fixed asap, imho. Putting them on an arbitrary list doesn't help anything in most cases 22.54.13 # well okay 22.54.17 # but i don't have time at the moment. 22.54.25 # Those lists have a tendency to continuallly grow... 22.58.00 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 23.00.54 # just saying that you should either try to fix it 23.00.57 # or add it to the list 23.01.39 Quit Chamois (" Want to be different? HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 23.02.06 # not many other choices, are there? :P 23.02.10 # apart from ignoring it, of course 23.02.23 # yes, i'm just saying 23.02.26 # we mustn't forget 23.02.29 # and i'm not gonna do it. 23.02.36 # tonight 23.02.38 # anyways 23.02.39 Quit Tang ("Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.3/20050414]") 23.09.10 Join arfo [0] (~arfo@p213.54.192.185.tisdip.tiscali.de) 23.14.47 # ah... it's a different problem. The lcd_clear_display() is working correctly, only the printing should take care not to print to invisible lines 23.14.59 # what? o.o; 23.15.00 # This is causing trouble... 23.15.32 # I had that on the player... 23.19.09 # it doesn't clear on iriver either though, and it can't print to invisible lines on iriver o.o 23.23.50 # It should clear with current cvs; it does work on player, recorder, and Ondio now. 23.24.12 # * HCl will check when he has some time 23.24.15 # busy busy days :/ 23.27.57 Quit Harpy (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 23.28.06 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 23.30.19 # i wish all codec coders were as considerate as the wavpack guy, heh 23.30.25 # mmm? 23.30.29 # just static data, very small code, no malloc 23.30.34 # heheh. 23.30.39 # the entire wavpack codec fits in iram 23.30.42 # sweet. 23.32.07 # HCl: I fixed your error message for the filename input. 23.32.17 # hahah 23.32.18 # 265% realtime 23.32.21 # with no opts 23.32.32 # The only reason why kbd_input() returns nonzero is when the input is cancelled 23.32.36 # took my emoticon out, didn't you ;/ 23.32.41 # oh 23.32.43 # okay 23.34.04 # Btw, there is no way to cancel an edit (yet) 23.34.12 # eh? 23.34.15 # there was o.o. 23.34.18 # did you break it? 23.34.22 # Really? 23.34.40 # yes, pushing off while in currentindex browsing mode 23.34.55 # so pushing off repeatedly will abort it 23.35.45 # it will still save it if its correct though. 23.35.48 # might want to change that. 23.36.16 # Hmz :/ For me, off saves the current editing. 23.36.26 # yea 23.36.28 # like. 23.36.32 # Yes, I mean _not_ saving on exit 23.36.36 # the abort saves it if the query is correct XD 23.36.39 # you might want to like 23.36.48 # Then it's no abort... 23.36.51 # ah meh hold on i'll fix it 23.36.51 # o.o 23.37.38 # It's not that important for now, but imho you should consider it when completing the editor with delete token etc 23.38.28 # yea 23.38.35 # the code is already there, pretty much..... 23.38.51 # the code used in the old tokentool just needs to be implemented into the new interface 23.38.54 # it should be fairly trivial 23.39.03 # ok, next good bash quote... "Saying that Java is nice because it works on all OS's is like saying that anal sex is nice because it works on all genders" 23.39.43 # "... because it works on all OS's" is an invalid statement... 23.39.47 Join ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-122-10.VIC.netspace.net.au) 23.43.03 # * Bagder pops in 23.43.30 # hi Bagder 23.43.35 # evening 23.43.52 # I found some quirks with the new build system :( 23.44.22 # (1) 'make clean' tries to delete some strange dirs: 23.44.40 # rm -f obj/unix/release/*.o 23.44.40 # rm -f obj/unix/debug/*.o 23.44.40 # rm -f examples/*.o 23.44.49 # !? 23.45.02 # thats from rockboy. 23.45.11 # i don't know why that got back in though? 23.45.15 Quit lostlogic ("Going to the moon") 23.45.17 # that hcl's fault 23.45.20 # ;-) 23.45.20 # nuhuh O.o. 23.45.24 # :p 23.46.08 # (2) Dependency problem: rockbox.elf and descendants don't seem to depend on librockbox.a, so when I e.g. only change a driver, the binary doesn't get rebuilt 23.46.14 # that should learn Hcl to cvs update, and not copy files over existing ones... 23.46.26 # eh? O.o. 23.46.27 # what? 23.46.37 # i haven't touched the rockboy makefile afaik? :X 23.46.39 # you didn't cvs update did you? 23.46.47 # your commit showed it 23.46.51 # (3) The strange dependency problem with the simulators are still there... 23.46.51 # huh? 23.47.08 # well i had a commit at first, but it failed because i indeed hadn't updated 23.47.14 # I didn't modify the (3) 23.47.14 # so then i did and recommitted 23.47.39 # Bagder: which commit? when? o.o 23.47.53 # http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/apps/plugins/databox/Makefile.diff?r1=1.1&r2=1.2 23.47.59 # ah 23.48.02 # no, I'm wrong 23.48.06 # sorry 23.48.08 # issok 23.48.43 # Bagder: Didn't you say rockboy? 23.48.55 # I said I'm wrong 23.49.02 # hmm... 23.49.06 # or is it from libdumb? 23.49.07 # umm, sorry 23.49.15 # Bagder: i need to close a patch 23.49.41 # i think that might be from libdumb o.o just remembered that though rockboy had an obj/unix, it did not have an examples or release or debug 23.49.44 # o.o 23.49.51 # preglow: your sf user name? 23.50.15 # * amiconn tries a grep... 23.50.23 # Bagder: preglow :) 23.50.36 # ok, hang on 23.50.41 # can do 23.51.38 Join lostlogic [0] (~lostlogic@node-4024215a.mdw.onnet.us.uu.net) 23.51.59 # preglow: it should work for you now 23.52.08 # * preglow goes for a test drive 23.52.39 Quit lostlogic (Client Quit) 23.54.50 Join lostlogic [0] (~lostlogic@node-4024215a.mdw.onnet.us.uu.net) 23.54.50 Quit asdsd____ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.55.10 Join asdsd____ [0] (~asdsd@h-67-100-29-43.miatflad.dynamic.covad.net) 23.55.33 # 'closed' is the proper status for applied patches, i take it? 23.55.45 # yes 23.56.45 # preglow: fyi (had to learn that back then as well): the proper status for fixed bugs is _not_ closed though 23.56.54 # ...unlike with the patches 23.57.16 # nowadays I close them all 23.57.19 # when fixed 23.57.25 # Ah, that's new 23.57.28 # yes 23.57.44 # I remember bugs did get marked fixed, but left open until the next release 23.57.59 # it is just too big a job to close them all ;-) 23.58.10 # Bagder: but the rockbox.org patches table doesn't get updated until tomorrow, no? 23.58.18 # preglow: correct 23.58.27 # seems i successfully closed the patch without destroying the world 23.58.35 # Hmm, my grep didn't work :( 23.58.36 # :-)