--- Log for 26.05.105 Server: tolkien.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 3 days and 14 hours ago 00.01.45 Quit Aison ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.72 :: www.XLhost.de )") 00.02.25 Part webguest68 00.15.07 Join DMJC [0] (~James@220-245-174-50-sa-pppoe.tpgi.com.au) 00.19.20 # nokia 770 looks like a fun toy 00.19.37 # and it runs debian! 00.20.10 # :-) 00.20.45 Join pbvas [0] (~pbv@res04-pbv.res.st-and.ac.uk) 00.25.02 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 00.27.28 # haha 00.27.33 Quit Sucka ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") 00.27.43 # pbvas: ahoy, any further luck? 00.38.04 Nick Lynx_ is now known as Lynx_awy (HydraIRC@134.95.189.59) 00.42.22 Quit tvelocity ("Leaving") 00.48.36 Quit DMJC (Remote closed the connection) 01.03.29 Join TheVoid [0] (~chatzilla@adsl-68-73-89-149.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) 01.04.40 # anyone familiar with encoding mp3s without gaps? 01.05.05 # slightly 01.05.48 # hm. well basically, i read the methods available at the rockbox site, and i wanted to do the LAME one, because it lets you play the songs out of order without corrupition 01.05.57 Join textchimp [0] (~text@203.22.251.238) 01.06.17 # but... LAME only comes either as the source code, or embedded with other programs... i dont know how to just get LAME 01.06.41 # windows or unix? 01.06.49 # win 01.07.00 # read the talkbox faq 01.07.01 # There are windows binaries available 01.07.10 # tells you where to get a Lame.exe binary 01.07.17 # i couldnt find them at the .... 01.07.23 # okay hold. 01.07.25 # i got the tremor to run at %50 real time 01.07.45 # talkbox faq? wheres that? 01.07.45 # not quite there yet but progress is visible :-) 01.08.13 # pbvas: are you doing codec optimisation? 01.08.41 # yes, i'm sort of hacking at it... no real expertise here! 01.08.48 # http://sourceforge.net/projects/lame 01.09.00 # download that zip and pull out the .exe 01.09.03 # i'm doing vorbis 'cause all my music is in that format 01.09.05 # it's all you really need 01.09.26 # pbvas: that's excellent, have you tried running it at 120mhz? 01.09.49 # actually 01.09.54 # pbvas: and what bitrate is this at, btw? 01.09.57 # there's a better download location 01.10.04 # its a *.tar.gz 01.10.12 # is that right, or did i go to the wrong link 01.10.37 Join DMJC [0] (~James@220-245-174-50-sa-pppoe.tpgi.com.au) 01.11.36 # pbvas: i was wondering if there weren't already existing optimised codec libraries around somewhere? 01.12.10 # http://www.dors.de/razorlame/download.php 01.12.17 # that'll work 01.12.55 Join muesli- [0] (muesli_tv@dialin-145-254-146-128.arcor-ip.net) 01.13.05 # http://www.hot.ee/smpman/mp3/ if you don't want razor 01.13.18 # k neat. brb 01.13.18 # google is your friend 01.13.25 # thx 01.13.59 # so, heres a question. 01.14.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.14.18 # i pull the tracks off the cd as wave files, and then encode them with LAME with the gapless thing, and thats it? 01.14.32 # that should work 01.14.36 # but keep in mind 01.14.48 # they'll only be gapless if played in order 01.14.49 # or is it because you're optimising it for specific hardware? 01.14.57 # well right. thats fine. 01.15.09 # at least they wont be corrupt out of order, lol 01.15.16 # i heart the random button sometimes 01.15.31 # yeah, random won't be gapless 01.15.46 # *shrug* k 01.21.03 Join TCK [0] (TCK@81-86-97-184.dsl.pipex.com) 01.24.28 # high 01.26.22 # textchimp: optimizing it for the h1x0 hardware 01.27.15 Quit DMJC (Remote closed the connection) 01.29.41 # TheVoid: The latest win32 lame binaries are here: http://mitiok.free.fr/ 01.31.43 # i'm currently trying winLAME 01.31.56 # i'll let you know what happens. the interface is dead simple though 01.43.02 Quit pbvas ("Leaving") 01.43.03 Quit muesli- (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.46.09 # we probably should get pbvas cvs access some time, he seems to be making steady progress 02.00.07 Join BTKDaImMaikata [0] (~Bager@83.222.160.88) 02.00.08 Quit Bager (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.05.00 Quit preglow ("me off") 03.03.32 Quit TheVoid ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.4/20050511]") 03.14.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.16.42 Join amiconn_ [0] (~jens@p54BD59F5.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.35.09 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.35.10 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (~jens@p54BD59F5.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.53.11 Quit rasher ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.57.05 Join ehntoo [0] (~noclue2@24-177-161-77.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) 04.05.42 Join QT_ [0] (as@area51.users.madwifi) 04.14.07 Quit ehntoo ("Leaving") 04.17.07 Quit QT (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.14.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.23.08 Quit cYmen ("zZz") 06.09.18 Join AEnertia [0] (~AEnertia@jervois.mcs.vuw.ac.nz) 06.12.31 Quit Aditya (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.25.03 Quit Rick (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.26.17 Join Rick [0] (rick@pool-71-108-23-179.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 06.31.37 Join raymondjtoth [0] (~439509ff@labb.contactor.se) 06.31.59 # hi will these firmware work with a muvo 06.32.07 # a muvo fx tx 256 06.34.25 # hello 06.34.29 Quit raymondjtoth (Client Quit) 06.41.39 Join raymondjtoth [0] (~439509ff@labb.contactor.se) 06.41.42 # hi 06.41.43 # there 06.42.21 # any one here 06.59.28 # i am here 06.59.40 # shambling and gibbering namelessly 07.03.25 # text dose these firm ware work with a muvo tx fm 07.03.25 # ? 07.08.28 # text dose these firm ware work with a muvo tx fm 07.08.28 # ? 07.12.39 # text chip 07.12.41 # hello 07.14.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.15.08 Quit raymondjtoth ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 07.23.46 Join raymondjtoth [0] (~439509ff@labb.contactor.se) 07.23.56 # any one here to help me or is this room all bots 07.23.58 # here 07.24.11 # ? 07.29.03 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 07.29.17 Nick BTKDaImMaikata is now known as Bager (~Bager@83.222.160.88) 07.29.22 # morning 07.29.39 # bager i have a q for you you ready for it 07.29.42 # and morning 07.29.43 # to you 07.30.00 # if i can answer ... 07.30.22 # dose this mp3 firmeware with with a creative muvo tx fm 256 07.30.47 # bager that what i got 07.31.11 # love to run this firemware rockbox has 07.31.12 # no, it currently works only on some of archos devices, with iriver port in progress 07.31.36 # bager what firmware is like this one for a creative muvo tx fm 256 out there 07.31.44 # you know of any my mom is blinde 07.31.57 # thats why im as,ing and want somthing like this one for my mp3 plsyer 07.32.00 # player i mean 07.32.21 # with same stuff as rockbox 07.32.57 # bager i hate creative firemware 07.32.59 # also 07.33.26 # can you help bager 07.33.37 # how ? 07.33.58 # is there any other firmware like this ione for a creatiuve muvo tx fm 256 07.33.58 # if you have skills, you can try porting rockbox to your device 07.34.06 # out there i can put on it 07.34.12 # im not 07.34.19 # try google-ing for something 07.34.25 # i did 07.34.34 # but nothing came up what i search for 07.34.57 # sorry, can't help 07.40.48 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 07.43.06 # morning, LinusN 07.43.12 # shalom 07.44.41 # yes!!! epson sent me the data sheets for the color lcd that we think is in the h300 07.44.49 # lin you know any thing about creative muvo tc fm 07.44.54 # yeah!!!! 07.45.05 # muvo? nothing 07.45.05 # LinusN that's very good 07.45.09 # muvo tx fm 256 07.45.30 # yep were can i get firmware like this one is 07.45.33 # lin 07.45.49 # for it i could use it 07.46.14 # i'm 99% sure you won't find a 3rd party firmware for muvo 07.46.29 # any open sorce ones 07.46.29 # closed architecture ? 07.47.11 # well, there are extremely few projects like rockbox 07.47.35 # lin what can i use 07.47.43 # in fact rockbox & ipodlinux ? 07.47.50 # for firmware for it 07.47.58 # that give me more stuff 07.48.46 # raymondjtoth: if creative doesn't provide upgrades, i'm sure nobody else is 07.48.57 # Bagder: and linav 07.49.03 # Bager: and linav 07.49.05 # bleh 07.49.08 # heh :) 07.49.08 # i love to use this with my muvo tx fm 07.49.17 # these firmware 07.49.43 # i must think for alternate nickname ... ;) 07.50.00 # s/for/about 07.50.31 # lin can this be used on a muvo tx fm 07.50.57 # raymondjtoth: no 07.51.09 # reson i aask is my mom blinde and needs somthing 07.51.17 # to help here like these 07.52.10 # lin 07.53.59 # well, if anyone wants rockbox on movo, he/she would have to port it him/herself 07.54.05 # muvo, sorry 07.54.12 # raymondjtoth i suggest you to buy some archos or iriver h1x0 from these here => http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DeviceChart 07.54.14 # how do i 07.54.34 # open it up, document all the chips, roll up the sleeves and start programming 07.54.35 # bagere she got this 07.54.36 # only 07.55.17 # lin did any one make a windows installer for muvo 07.55.19 # yet 07.55.46 # what do you mean with "windows installer" 07.55.59 # exe 07.56.03 # flsher 07.56.30 # raymondjtoth do you understand that this device (creative muvo) has nothing common with your personal computer as architecture 07.57.02 # bager yes 07.57.03 # i do 07.57.24 # so why do you think that ordinary windows can run on it 07.57.51 # no what i mean is there an windows verson of the flashing part 07.57.59 # to flasj it 07.58.08 # raymondjtoth: i bet creative has made one 07.58.09 # search on creative's site 07.58.17 # k 07.58.39 # if there is any update, it'll be from creative, as linus already said 07.58.40 # raymondjtoth: nobody has worked with open source firmware for the muvo 07.58.57 # that i know of 07.59.14 # what has thay done with the one that creative did 07.59.30 # or what other firmeware is there took and modifiyed the one thay mad 07.59.57 # i don't understand what you mean 08.00.27 # raymondjtoth to make open firmware to run on your muvo it's not enough to change 2-3 letters in the code ... it's much of work to do it ... 08.00.41 # ok 08.01.11 # which envolves understanding how hardware works ... electronics ... 08.01.18 # it has so far taken us more than 6 months to port rockbox to the iriver 08.01.56 Quit raymondjtoth ("CGI:IRC") 08.02.01 # heh ... 08.02.08 Join raymondjtoth [0] (~439509ff@labb.contactor.se) 08.02.12 # ok lin 08.02.35 # and we don't change the existing firmware, we write our own 08.03.18 # ok i looking for them on search 08.03.40 # thats what im want 08.03.43 # but will search 08.03.50 # you will probably not find any voice menus in their upgrades 08.04.47 # raymondjtoth i really suggest you to buy device on which rockbox runs or will run in near future, if you really want blind-user-friendly interface .... 08.04.56 # ok 08.07.23 # * Bager is scared from his bad english language 08.08.12 # sorr im a disability person 08.08.27 # no, i mean my language :) 08.10.10 # LinusN what's probability that the H3x0's LCD is epson's one 08.10.32 # i *think* it's pretty high, but i'll have to investigate 08.11.14 # for sure :) 08.11.44 # LinusN btw have you ever heard about www.moneybookers.com ? 08.12.04 # (regarding to donating to the project) 08.12.19 # haven't heard of it 08.12.33 # see it 08.12.37 # for example 08.12.59 # i can't donate through paypal 08.13.10 # but i can through moneybookers 08.13.17 # it's not so easy, but ... 08.15.16 Quit raymondjtoth ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 08.19.15 # morning 08.20.14 # moo 08.20.22 # wiki spam again :( 08.20.47 # amiconn: AVeryGoodSite? 08.21.04 # killed and buried 08.22.14 # Thanks. 08.23.07 # I would do this myself if I knew whether the delete function from the web ui is a sufficient method 08.23.23 # It doesn't really delete, only move to the Trash web... 08.23.35 # that's enough for me 08.23.41 # that's what i do 08.24.33 # where is Trash web ? 08.24.44 # is it available through http ? 08.24.51 # yes 08.25.39 # url ? 08.26.01 # LinusN: I dunno whether moving to the Trash web makes sense for this spam pages. The Trash web is still accessible (and searchable?) 08.26.14 # Bagder: It's a part of the wiki on the rockbox site 08.26.39 # amiconn: does it matter? 08.26.44 # Deleted topics don't get deleted for real, but moved to the trash web 08.27.32 # LinusN: Imho it does. From what I understand this kind of spam tries to attract traffic to their own site(s) using the popularity of rockbox 08.27.33 # i can't find it :) 08.28.09 # So as long as these pages can be found using google... 08.29.49 # Bagder: Go to the wiki, then replace 'Main' in the url with 'Trash' 08.30.03 # Don't want to link directly... 08.30.55 # no problem :) 08.31.10 # just curious 08.35.57 # just add rel="nofollow" to all the links 08.35.58 # ;p 08.40.04 # * LinusN accidentally deleted too many topics from the Trash web :-) 08.40.25 # LinusN eeee 08.47.22 Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.55.34 Join ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-121-92.VIC.netspace.net.au) 09.03.42 Join tvelocity [0] (~tony@ipa159.0.tellas.gr) 09.04.23 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.05.01 Join B4gder [0] (~d559bcbf@labb.contactor.se) 09.06.35 # rnorning 09.08.32 Join Harpy [0] (YoJo5RcWNi@dsl-hkigw7wbb.dial.inet.fi) 09.09.00 Join Aison [0] (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 09.11.39 # morning :) 09.14.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.24.44 Join bobTHC [0] (~foo@l06v-9-71.d1.club-internet.fr) 09.25.14 # mornin' all ! 09.42.41 Nick QT_ is now known as QT (as@area51.users.madwifi) 09.55.22 Join Byron [0] (byron@63.77.203.136) 09.55.51 # I need some help, I am getting *PANIC* ata -1 error on my archos recorder 20 09.57.13 # just spins up and sits on the archos rockbox screen for about a minute, says ATA Error, press on to debug and then I press on and it shows a bunch of numbers, I press on again and it says *PANIC* ata -1 in large friendly letters 09.58.32 Quit textchimp () 10.00.43 Join sox [0] (zM9eEeYS@c-573de255.733-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 10.01.11 # hoy 10.02.33 Join webguest29 [0] (~54bca97f@labb.contactor.se) 10.02.47 # hello 10.02.49 # is there any good music managers for *nix computers? i'm on a mac and itunes is so stupid, it can't work with files directly from the iriver 10.03.17 # don't know, I'm here trying to get some help with my Archos 10.03.21 # seems to be broken. 10.03.48 # i want it mainly for playlist creation (and yeah, i know i can do it with rockbox but i would prefer some better gui) 10.03.49 Quit webguest29 (Client Quit) 10.04.03 # byron: oh bad for you 10.04.21 # Yeah... getting a *PANIC* ata -1 message 10.05.31 # you have freshly charged batteries? 10.06.17 # Yeah... I am wondering if there is a discharge option on the archos, maybe I need to drain them and try charging again 10.06.35 # Byron: can you hear it spin up? 10.06.38 # yes 10.06.50 # have you dropped it? 10.07.21 # nope, not that I know of, it was in backback when I discovered it was no longer breaking so maybe it did encounter a shock 10.07.32 # err working 10.07.35 # sox: there is a link to a comprehensive table of tools on the documentation page 10.07.38 # breaking = working 10.07.59 # * Byron is tired... sorry for that 10.08.19 # start with fresh batteries, then you should open it up and remove and put back the hard drive 10.08.33 Join DMJC [0] (~James@220-245-174-50-sa-pppoe.tpgi.com.au) 10.08.43 # is there a page that will walk me through the dis-mantle process 10.08.47 # meaning: try with fresh batteries, then open it up if that doesn't help 10.09.06 # my archos dosen't have a battery compartment, it's a recorder 20 10.09.18 # there are good descriptions on the documentation page 10.09.45 # okay... so your thinking that the hard drive is loose or the batteries are bad? 10.09.52 # my recorder 20 has two battery compartments 10.09.59 # it does... where? 10.10.00 # Byron: yes i do 10.10.06 # on each side 10.10.24 # oohh... is yours a v1 or a v2 10.10.31 # v1 10.10.49 # i have an fm recorder as well 10.10.52 # v1 is mostly implied when not mentioned 10.10.54 # maybe that's why... mine is a v2 10.10.59 # B4gder: exactly 10.11.06 # sorry 10.11.10 # v2 recorder 20 10.11.16 # that's better 10.11.17 # does that one have a battery compartment/ 10.11.18 # ? 10.11.23 # yes it has 10.11.33 # the lid is on top of the recorder 10.11.38 # do I need to unscrew anything or can it be opened with my fingers? 10.11.43 # okay 10.12.04 # i don't there are any screws, but i don't really remember 10.15.27 # Q3. Ok, I got a replacement, now how do I put it in? 10.15.27 # A3: Remove the two small screws on the top of your V2/FMR, and pry the lid off. Now turn it upside down and shake it a little. It should just slide out. Take note of the position it's in, and put the replacement in the same way. Replace the cover. 10.15.55 # there you go 10.16.16 # okay 10.16.28 # oops, they don't take run-of-the-mill batteries 10.16.36 # nope 10.16.37 # They are 2200 mAh LiIon rechargeable batteries. Specifically, it is two 1100 mAh LiIon cells in parallel, physically taped together. 10.16.53 # no need to tell me :-) 10.17.35 Quit sox ("Time to move on...") 10.20.28 # http://www.hotmp3gear.com/mmjb/disassembly.htm 10.28.20 Join edx [0] (edx@p3EE0E650.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.47.05 Quit tvelocity ("Leaving") 10.47.05 Quit Byron (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.58.02 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 11.05.25 Join Chamois [0] (~Chamois@champigny-5-82-226-182-23.fbx.proxad.net) 11.08.29 # linus 11.08.34 # are you here ? 11.08.56 # he last spoke 40 minutes ago 11.09.26 # yes i see that 11.11.39 # rather, 5 11.11.40 # 0 11.11.40 # :p 11.12.25 # any news about austriancoder who worked on fm radio 11.12.30 # ? 11.14.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.17.32 # hi! what is the status of MP3 playback of the iriver port? 11.24.50 Join ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-121-189.VIC.netspace.net.au) 11.26.06 # no recent news on that front 11.27.18 # alright. thanks 11.27.37 # i was reading some comments on misticriver.net about the port and it sounds very promising 11.27.38 Join rasher [0] (~3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) 11.27.50 # but without playback no need for me to flash the software yez 11.27.54 # s/yez/yet 11.28.12 # how else are you gonna get your hands wet with developing? B-] 11.28.23 # i am useless at developping :-( 11.28.48 # a perfect opportunity to learn! 11.28.52 # just a plain user 11.38.07 # * LinusN just opened his h300 and looked at the lcd markings 11.38.33 # the camera is out of order atm, but i'll get pictures asap 11.39.07 # epson lcd ? 11.39.12 # probably not 11.40.01 # the markings for the COG is "IZI2049-02", but the I's may very well be 1's 11.40.16 # :) 11.41.02 # heh 11.41.39 # but your experience shows that iriver are working with epson compatible LCDs 11.42.12 # so it's possible 11.44.00 # it's maybe Iz1 11.58.43 # no combinations of 1, I and l turns up anything on google afaics 11.58.50 # LinusN is "0" zero or o 11.58.56 # rasher:) haha 11.59.00 # just tried the same 11.59.08 # 1ZI2049 11.59.17 # IZ12049 11.59.22 # 1Z12049 11.59.23 # i'll provide a picture shortly 11.59.52 # can't bet on such things to be in google though I guess 12.00.06 # IZI2049 12.00.08 # yeah 12.00.34 # probably in this "deep web" that people keep talking about 12.00.52 # those asian companies aren't very public 12.00.58 # * Bager offers LinusN to ask iriver :P 12.01.07 # i did 12.01.10 # no reply 12.01.13 # you DID ? 12.01.20 # you could try asking their repair shop 12.01.20 # yup 12.01.23 # i didn't know this fact 12.01.30 # rasher: email? 12.01.30 # csc something 12.01.36 # hang on 12.02.26 # * LinusN goes to lunch 12.11.35 # ah, "CMS Peripherals" 12.13.10 # as per http://www.misticriver.net/boards/showthread.php?t=1170 12.13.12 # and others 12.18.23 # Contact form: http://www.cmsperipherals.com/contact/register1.asp 12.18.59 # although they don't want to deal with end users, it seems, only retailers 12.19.09 # (sounds like my kind of place - no end users!) 12.19.58 # ;) 12.27.44 Join [1]Chamois [0] (~Chamois@champigny-5-82-226-182-23.fbx.proxad.net) 12.27.44 Quit Chamois (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.27.49 Nick [1]Chamois is now known as Chamois (~Chamois@champigny-5-82-226-182-23.fbx.proxad.net) 12.34.10 # Haha, slashdot banned themself from their own rss 12.34.39 # so the developers-section "slashbox" is telling me that my headline reader has been banned 12.34.42 # nice going there 12.39.03 Join preglow [0] (thomj@s183a.studby.ntnu.no) 12.40.57 # LinusN: imdct's in the patch tracker 12.50.22 Nick Lynx_awy is now known as Lynx_ (HydraIRC@134.95.189.59) 13.11.22 # heh 13.14.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.15.07 Join redwood [0] (~PenovichJ@peter.rfa.org) 13.20.04 # and i made a new codec category for the patch tracker 13.20.34 # nice 13.22.53 Join cYmen [0] (~cymen@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 13.23.11 # anything new on the lcd? 13.24.13 # we should probably get pedro vasconcelos cvs access, btw, he seems to be well on the way with tremor optimisations 13.28.34 # sweet 13.32.33 Join textchimp [0] (~chimp@ip67.net66.ipnetworks.net.au) 13.35.43 # Very 13.39.12 # i'm glad someone is. i was half afraid ogg wouldn't be good to go in time. 13.42.40 # it most certainly wont be without him 13.44.36 # and he seems to know what he's about 13.45.04 Join muesli- [0] (muesli_tv@Bbca8.b.pppool.de) 13.45.46 # who is pedro vasconcelos? i mean, is he from ogg/vorbis team 13.45.58 # hi 13.47.32 Join thegeek [0] (na@ti521110a080-10469.bb.online.no) 13.47.39 Join oxygen77 [0] (~c1c28427@labb.contactor.se) 13.47.43 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverH3XXHardwareComponents updated with LCD module markings 13.49.37 # Bager: he's probably just like us, another dev 13.50.16 # i am in contact with him regarding cvs access 13.50.16 # LinusN: i think that it should be reasonable to delete info about the tfsc display 13.50.24 # true 13.50.40 # i'll do it 13.51.02 # will there be a bootloader for 3xx series soon? 13.51.10 # obviously i won't 13.51.48 # muesli-: i don't think we will release one until we have the hardware worked out 13.52.01 # i haven't even connected the bdm yet 13.52.11 # ok...am just thinking about selling my 140 to get a 320 13.52.19 # why? 13.52.23 # is the firmware comparable to the h100 ones? 13.52.29 # i love its color display 13.52.36 # i don't 13.52.39 # ;) 13.52.52 # LinusN why ?:) 13.52.55 # i mean, it is totally dark when the backlight isn't on 13.53.06 # pitch black 13.53.12 # yeah, but i use the remote LCD 13.53.20 # i am using the remote in 99,9% of all cases 13.53.31 # then why bother with color? 13.53.41 # playing gameboy games on a color screen is exciting me :D 13.53.45 # B4gder: because it's cool... kidding 13.53.46 # hehe 13.54.07 # video and pictures is cool 13.54.09 # sortof 13.54.12 # B4gder pictures look better with color 13.54.25 # video also 13.54.32 # but it's an DAP, not PMP 13.54.35 # s/an/a 13.55.00 # yeah, full jpf support would rock... 13.55.03 # jpg 13.55.48 # LinusN do you have any idea where/which of the chips is rtc located in 13.55.52 # what's missing in the grayscale patch? 13.56.13 # preglow i think the only missing thing is progressive jpg 13.56.27 # not the jpeg viewer, the grayscale patch ;) 13.56.42 # The move functions, resetting of the colours 13.56.51 # and the speed 13.57.25 # I'd say getting it complete is before speed? 13.57.31 # but yes 13.57.35 # speed 14.02.30 # I'd just be happy to be using my ihp-140 to play ogg files in rockbox.. 14.03.06 # i'll take any sound playback in rockbox :P 14.03.20 # mp3/ogg 14.03.33 # soon as there's that 99.9% off my music will run 14.03.49 # only have about 2 .wma files 14.03.55 # haha 14.03.56 # i hav eone 14.03.57 Quit thegeek_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14.03.58 # and back to the future soundtrack is .asf 14.04.07 # LinusN: any progress on the link between mp3 and dac? :/ 14.04.19 # asf isn't impossible 14.04.31 # but will require heaps of work 14.05.19 # HCl: not really 14.05.33 # what needs to be done exactly? 14.05.49 # rasher: the problem with the grayscale patch is that it makes the entire UI slower 14.06.29 # what is the purpose of the grayscale patch? what's it for? 14.06.37 # HCl: the buffering of mp3 data, the decoding in chunks, playback if pcm data in chunks, next-track handning 14.06.50 # hrm :/ 14.07.00 # textchimp: to enable grayscale on iriver. 14.07.01 # textchimp: making jpeg viewing and gameboy games cooler 14.07.27 # don't forget mandelbrot 14.07.35 # is it really just on/off by default? 14.07.38 # yes 14.07.44 # hadn't noticed 14.08.02 # i guess i haven't been trying (or able) to view images on it until now 14.08.09 # will go2bed..l8er 14.08.09 # then you haven't looked very hard 14.08.40 # no, i mean with the iriver firmware 14.09.01 # oh i see what you mean 14.12.03 # the old imdct36 is complete unmaintainable 14.15.40 # gcc inline asm would be a bit nicer to look at without all the quotes and \n\t 14.16.44 # indeed 14.19.34 # preglow: The \t can safely be left out, at least it works with SH1 asm 14.19.49 Join webguest61 [0] (~5087c46d@labb.contactor.se) 14.20.32 # Hi, question about the daily logs on the wiki ? 14.20.38 # preglow: Look at the grayscale lib for an (imho) nice asm formatting 14.20.51 # daily logs? 14.20.57 # SOme logs open in a text file, very messy 14.21.25 # others open in notmal chat format, nice, was wondering why the difference 14.21.34 # I don't understand 14.21.45 # what logs are "messy" ? 14.22.04 # maybe he wants to say about the "feature" of mozilla 14.22.17 # webguest61: can you provide links of two files that show us what you mean? 14.22.25 # yes I use firefox 14.22.30 # i.e. it tries on his own to determine file type 14.22.43 Quit oxygen77 ("CGI:IRC") 14.22.46 # webguest61 you mean that one log is opened in firefox 14.22.50 # yesterdays logs open in a text file only and its messy 14.23.00 # and for other it wants to open through external application ? 14.23.12 # yes 14.23.18 # ;) 14.23.21 # amiconn: i think the \t is only for human readability 14.23.32 # amiconn: and you're right, that is pretty readable 14.23.38 # webguest61: That's mozilla/firefox' fault 14.23.48 # webguest61 the problem is that firefox tries to determine file type based on bytes in it 14.24.02 # and in some of the logs there are "binary" symbols 14.24.04 # just dont understand why some days are OK, and others not 14.24.08 # preglow: Imho the \t instead of spaces makes it less readable 14.24.22 # Some assemblers seem to require it, but not the gnu asm 14.24.41 # well, the compiler uses \t for indentation, afaik 14.24.44 # webguest61: it simply depends on what letters they might contain 14.25.15 # webguest61: if someone uses colours or other weird control-characters, firefox will go bananas 14.25.37 Ctcp Version from rasher!~3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se 14.25.47 # ok thanks 14.25.57 # Maybe dancer could be made to strip those? 14.25.57 # webguest61: yeah, firefox tries to guess based on the content, which sometimes can be misleading 14.26.16 # it can. 14.26.19 # set mode +c 14.26.26 # iirc, drops mirc colours 14.26.35 # I meant dancer-the-bot 14.26.46 # oh. well. dancer the ircd can :) 14.27.55 # it's not dancers job 14.27.56 # and since we have a no colour policy in here anyway (iirc), it can't hurt 14.27.59 # it's a firefox bug, if you ask me 14.28.41 # it's actually a firefox *feature* according to the developers 14.29.02 # to handle badly configured web servers 14.29.04 # yeah, mimicing IE is a feature 14.29.22 # heh. they haven't gone all the way yet tho. 14.29.32 # badly configured web servers is a real problem 14.29.43 # they won't render .html as html if the webserver claims it's a gif :) 14.30.13 # if only the download dialog would offer to "open in firefox as text" or something like that 14.30.16 # well, the fix in question only handles text/plain types 14.30.23 # rasher: agreed 14.30.55 # LinusN: do you have any idea why the measure realtime percentage increases steadily for some mp3 files? iriver.mp3 does that here, and that's 320 CBR 14.31.15 # i have no idea 14.31.45 # i guess we can blame the xxx2wav code for that 14.32.00 # probably 14.32.05 # i just don't get what's going on 14.32.10 # for some files it works wonderfully 14.32.56 # * rasher mounts the ihp100 14.33.09 # using the iriver firmware :-\ 14.33.34 # Vendor: TOSHIBA Model: MK1003GAL Rev: 0 0 14.33.35 Quit muesli- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.34.09 # no surprises there 14.34.25 # indeed not 14.34.58 Join tvelocity [0] (~tony@ipa159.0.tellas.gr) 14.35.08 # * rasher copies over iriver.mp3 14.35.44 # * preglow wants authorative emac documentation for his birthday 14.36.34 # :) 14.36.59 # wow, previous owner sure was bass-hungry 14.38.28 # me hugs his H140 14.38.50 # ughh, that doesnt work here ( me) 14.39.34 # no, it does 14.39.45 # * rasher see? 14.40.25 # hmm, I'm chatting via the wiki link and firefox, maybe thats the reason 14.40.44 # So am I. 14.40.48 # *smiles 14.41.47 # /me blarh 14.42.18 # * webguest61 has a big smile on 14.42.53 Quit tvelocity ("Leaving") 14.43.30 # thanks for the info, later 14.44.05 Quit webguest61 ("CGI:IRC") 14.47.41 Part LinusN 14.48.06 # didn't know there were -jp firmwares for the h1x0s 14.58.12 # Heh, applying the bootloader to a ihp_100.hex file went fine 14.58.20 # well 14.58.29 # that's no guarantee :P 14.58.38 # go ahead and flash it, wuss! 14.58.55 # Indeed not, just tells us that it's pretty similar to the ihp_120.hex 14.59.15 # or that the error checking isn't good enough :) 14.59.19 # preglow: it's tempting, since I'll be sending it to LinusN anyway 15.05.34 # looks like the nokia thing has the same DSP as the neuros devices 15.05.41 # should probably speed up the gcc port 15.06.22 # what dsp is that? 15.06.22 # ti? 15.06.56 # TI-c54x if memory serves 15.07.04 # yup 15.07.31 # what's that nokia thing ? 15.08.15 # Nokia 770 - http://nokia.com/770 15.08.25 # It runs Linux 15.14.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.25.38 # Flashing is tempting :-\ 15.26.12 # i wouldn't, personally. Linus may want to get a look at it in it's 'natural' state 15.26.54 # mhm, I'm not going to 15.48.07 # Hmm, now testing if my realtime ogg playback would work on iriver :) 15.52.03 # hmm? 15.52.26 # Just doing some testing and trying to find out how rockbox code works 15.53.21 # where do you get the realtime ogg playback from? 15.53.44 # I am trying to use the vorbis2wav plugin 15.53.53 # ahh, but that isn't realtime by far ;) 15.54.02 # Ah.. :D 15.54.18 # Then I should try mp3 instead? =) 15.55.08 Quit textchimp (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.57.26 # mp3 is realtime, yes 15.57.34 # but it doesn't really matter if it's realtime or now anyway 16.02.16 Join Aditya [0] (~Aditya@pcp09495878pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) 16.03.41 # Hmm, how should i configure/install the viewers plugins so that they will work? Is it enough to copy viewers.conf to /iriver/.rockbox and then for example vorbis2was to /iriver/.rockbox/viewers/ and finally when i select some.ogg file in the browser, vorbis2was.rock will be automatically called? 16.04.48 Join MoosCamaro [0] (MoosCamaro@m214.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 16.04.58 # Hi all 16.05.08 # I think that currently the iriver does nothing when i select something 16.05.10 # Hi 16.06.53 # Slasheri: you have to do "open with" 16.07.03 # hold down the joystick until a menu appears 16.07.16 # Oh, interesting! :) 16.08.13 # Now it looks much better but no audio out so far ;) 16.08.16 # Needs more debugging 16.09.20 # needs more coding 16.10.20 # Yes.. I have already added some code and a new thread 16.19.27 # to what? 16.20.25 # To check if there are new pcm data available and if there is, it will start audio playback. 16.20.37 # But now i am only testing everything.. :D 16.21.57 # if you link with my logf.c code, you'll get a neat little debug log in the remote 16.22.16 # Is that already working? 16.22.23 # I believe so 16.22.28 # neat 16.22.39 # but it isn't used by the code yet 16.22.41 # B4gder: Hmm, great. I will try that soon :) 16.22.56 # since I haven't made any enable/disable option 16.23.00 # I have a scan of my ihp-120, will add to the wiki in a bit 16.23.15 # since I noticed that there wasn't one 16.23.21 # also of the remote 16.23.41 # and the ihp-100 as well, since I was scanning already 16.23.59 # cool 16.24.14 Nick [zmaj] is now known as [Zmaj] (zmaj@liebt.polnische.putzen.am.telefon.und.das.ist.auch.gut-s0.de) 16.25.36 Nick [Zmaj] is now known as [zmaj] (zmaj@liebt.polnische.putzen.am.telefon.und.das.ist.auch.gut-s0.de) 16.25.56 Quit B4gder ("CGI:IRC") 16.29.20 Join zol1 [0] (~l@p549DDBBC.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.29.30 # g'day 16.32.36 # B4gder: can the log be read through the debug menu, or only on the remote? 16.48.10 # your own code has to take care of it 16.48.29 # and from what i can glean from the code, it seems like both remote and ordinary lcd are supported 16.49.33 # rasher: weren't you supposed to make a dr. roboniks mean bean machine clone? :> 16.50.40 # That was HCl 16.52.24 # well, anyway, someone needs to do it :P 16.59.25 Join webguest11 [0] (~54b38fda@labb.contactor.se) 17.02.55 # eh? 17.02.58 # yes, thats me :P 17.03.02 # but. 17.03.06 # i want mp3 playback working first 17.03.07 # :P 17.03.12 # cause i want to finish the runtime db first 17.03.20 # and i prefer mp3 playback for that. 17.05.08 # the breakout clone was me 17.05.14 # but I gave up on that 17.06.07 # aww I want to try flashing the ihp-100! 17.07.09 # Hrm.. the "center-scrolling" idea on MR sounds nice 17.07.41 # http://www.misticriver.net/boards/showpost.php?p=236372&postcount=700 17.08.01 # a good idea coming from misticriver? never! 17.08.50 # why do you need mp3 playback for runtime db? 17.10.40 Part redwood 17.12.51 Join ldone [0] (~ldone@cpe-204-210-177-233.neo.res.rr.com) 17.12.56 Quit webguest11 ("CGI:IRC") 17.12.59 Join webguest11 [0] (~54b38fda@labb.contactor.se) 17.14.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.27.00 Join Lost-ash [0] (ashridah@220-253-123-12.VIC.netspace.net.au) 17.27.23 Quit ashridah (Nick collision from services.) 17.27.35 Nick Lost-ash is now known as ashridah (ashridah@220-253-123-12.VIC.netspace.net.au) 17.39.15 # oh, how my ubuntu has fallen over 17.44.00 Quit webguest11 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 17.47.47 # Hmm, now i got audio output on vorbis, but yeah, it's not realtime at all 17.47.54 # But i can hear that the decoding works! 17.48.08 # try it with mp3 17.48.16 # Yes, i try it next 17.50.11 # preglow: Yes, breezy is in a state of flux right now it seems 17.50.24 # something to do with xorg 17.50.26 # i don't friggin use breezy 17.50.40 # i did a failed attempt at using it, but i never got it working 17.50.41 # Ah, so it just fell over standing still? 17.50.48 # no 17.50.50 # i did a kernel upgrade 17.50.58 # because one was scheduled 17.51.04 # and now all kernels i try to install end up non-functional 17.51.18 Join [1]Chamois [0] (~Chamois@champigny-5-82-226-182-23.fbx.proxad.net) 17.51.42 # only error i can see during dpkg-reconfigure is a /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 complaint 17.52.24 # do you know of any way for me to be completely certain i have no residual breezy files? 17.54.31 # #ubuntu seems to be useless as far as getting help is concerned 17.55.13 # mkfs /dev/hda ;) 17.55.22 Quit izzy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.55.32 # i'm kinding preglow ! 17.55.56 # preglow: not really 17.55.59 # s/kinding/kidding 17.56.20 # haha 17.56.32 # well, this is really frustrating 17.56.41 # i need linux for coding 17.56.58 # use a liveCD to repair ure linux 17.57.31 # install the kernel by hand. then you have base to experiment from. 18.00.04 # if i could find out which script does the configuring, i could probably find out what is broken 18.00.17 # the kernels break when i dpkg-reconfigure them 18.00.31 # and some program in that script doesn't get run because of a faulty lib dep 18.00.56 # I never use apt/dpkg for kernels myself. i prefer monolithic kernels. 18.01.09 # so do i, but i hate to struggle against the bloody package system 18.01.25 # you only struggle because you tried to use it to install the kernel ;) 18.01.55 # * Zagor hides 18.02.06 # :) 18.02.07 # it's more like i don't know how to set up the kernel to behave like ubuntu expects it to 18.02.15 # and how to make it interface with the nvidia kernel module, etc 18.02.31 # do you play 3d games in linux? 18.02.38 # no 18.02.45 # but the nvidia module is way faster 18.02.52 # gnome is slow enough as it is 18.03.04 # really? i never noticed when I had my geforce. 18.03.20 # the binary module was a lot more hassle than worth, imho 18.03.24 # i can't even get the dvi connector to work without the nvidia module 18.03.38 # well, if i go with the ubuntu kernel, it's absolutely no hassle 18.03.42 # it just works 18.04.03 # which is how i would like it right now 18.04.11 # except for the hassle needed to get the ubuntu kernel to work. i love circular stuff... :-) 18.04.16 # haha 18.04.26 # that's no hassle when the configure script isn't bloody broken 18.04.37 # but i'm setting up a kernel right now 18.04.48 # btw you want XFree86 option "ConnectedMonitor" "DFP" to activate dvi 18.05.10 # iirc 18.05.53 # that's what i've always used 18.05.59 # for the lcd monitor, at least 18.06.36 # oooh, exciting, i haven't tried configuring a 2.6 kernel before 18.06.49 # lots of new fun options 18.07.13 # like what ? 18.08.22 Quit Chamois (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.08.23 Nick [1]Chamois is now known as Chamois (~Chamois@champigny-5-82-226-182-23.fbx.proxad.net) 18.08.25 # got DFP working with nv now 18.08.33 # but it doesn't change to the correct mode 18.09.07 # i get 1280x1024 18.09.13 # which i bloody refuse to use 18.09.43 # for tft the native resolution is the only good to use 18.10.07 # yes, no shit 18.10.30 # 1600x1200 is native, so i sure as hell wont settle for 1280x1024 18.10.35 # which isn't even the same aspect ratio ;) 18.10.40 # indeed 18.10.50 # i had some other options too. can't remember which ones were important: "NoBandWidthTest" "true" and "IgnoreDisplayDevices" "CRT,TV" 18.11.06 # "NvAGP" "0" 18.12.20 # * Zagor goes to cook dinner 18.12.24 # NoBandWidthTest sounds about right 18.12.39 # wow, my father's cheap-ass 1,5gb player is surprisingly smart.. it even has otf-playlists o.O 18.13.01 # http://www.perceptiondigital.com/products/audio/1000/ 18.13.26 # be aware preglow, tft not love to be overrefreshed 18.13.35 # I threatened to take it apart 18.14.01 # no dice, still the shitty resolution 18.15.10 # does the log tell you why it's picking 1280x1024? 18.16.44 # ehh 18.16.53 # because its larger than bios programmed panel size of 1280x1025 18.16.54 # 4 18.17.25 # theres a whole load of resolution related messages 18.17.36 # queer, because the only one i specify in xorg.conf is 1600x1200 18.17.58 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 18.29.59 # well 18.30.05 # i've found the bug, it seems 18.30.58 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 18.34.51 # preglow: The 'fun' of configuring linux... 18.35.01 # well 18.35.04 # this is my fault, it seems 18.35.16 # it has worked peachy up until now 18.35.20 # Last weekend I tried to configure wlan on a linux box - no luck 18.35.36 # depends on a lot on the hardware 18.35.43 # but i have absolutely no experience with wlan 18.35.55 # rasher: would you know how i downgrade a package? 18.36.06 # I was able to compile the driver module, it loads and finds the card 18.36.07 # rasher: seems i have the breezy libc, and shouldnt be having it 18.36.17 # get the .deb and dpkg -i that 18.36.32 # that *should* remove the newer version 18.36.45 # However, whenever I try to start the interface, it tells me 'using NO encryption' in spite of having it confihured to use wpa 18.37.01 # ...and consequently the card cannot connect the ap 18.37.40 # what kind of driver? 18.37.53 # Ralink RA2500 18.37.59 # (also note, that gimp gets a bit sluggish loading a 6000x8000 bitmap) 18.38.10 # hehe 18.38.26 # amiconn: Which driver package were you using? 18.38.29 # A bit more ram is always useful :P 18.38.51 # rasher: There is no package, I had to compile it from source 18.38.56 # actually I have about 100mb ram 18.38.58 # free 18.39.06 # At least RA2500 has an opensource driver 18.39.26 # Website? 18.39.34 # rasher: i'll try something else first, where can i get the .deb files i want? i cant seem to find them on packages.ubuntu.com 18.39.59 # actually.. try apt-get install libc/hoary 18.40.15 # i'll try installing hoary initrd-tools first 18.40.19 # since thats a known working fic 18.40.20 # fix 18.40.31 # or libc6, or whatever the package name is 18.40.32 # ah 18.40.41 # ehh 18.40.44 # rasher: Erm, it's called RT2500. http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page 18.40.45 # breezy initrd-tools 18.40.49 # but i can't find the deb 18.43.22 # amd64? 18.43.55 Quit Chamois (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- 100,000+ downloads can't be wrong") 18.43.57 # yea 18.44.09 # http://mirrors.dk.telia.net/ubuntu/pool/main/m/module-init-tools/module-init-tools_3.2-pre1-2ubuntu1_amd64.deb 18.47.16 # wrong file, but i found it hanging around somewhere else on that server ;) 18.47.52 # oh.. silly me 18.49.07 # ahh 18.49.11 # i do believe that fixed it 18.49.11 # brb 18.52.48 # THERE WE GO 18.52.55 # * preglow fondles 1600x1200 18.53.10 # :) 18.53.21 # Slasheri: so, any luck with mp3 playback? 18.54.22 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 18.55.37 # preglow: Yes, it works with audio out but i can't get to work in realtime.. Still trying 18.55.50 # Slasheri: running at 120mhz, i hope? 18.55.56 # aah! 18.56.06 # Slasheri: cpu_boost(true); or something 18.56.16 # trying.. 18.56.26 # i'm off for the shop for a couple of mins 18.56.34 # okay :) 19.05.42 Quit DMJC ("Leaving") 19.08.34 Quit bobTHC ("Smoke Weed Every Day !") 19.12.34 # I have done it! 19.12.51 # whoa 19.12.52 # Playing iRiver song at realtime with audio output on rockbox with iriver! 19.12.59 # Slasheri: patch asap, please 19.13.03 # :) 19.13.11 # patch indeed 19.13.17 # Okay, i will take a diff soon (it's not cvs ready at the moment) 19.13.48 # not a problem, as long as i get to see, and hear, rockbox playing music 19.13.55 # :) 19.14.01 # great 19.14.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.15.01 # I still do few tests and then i will make the patch 19.15.17 # Hrm, do I add the h110 to the DeviceChart or not? 19.15.33 # * preglow shrugs 19.16.07 # The only difference is the harddisk and ram size.. but then, some of the archos units are pretty darn similar 19.18.17 # Slasheri: are you doing buffering etc? 19.18.48 # rasher: At the moment I have 1 MB ringbuffer for raw audio 19.19.38 # okay 19.19.38 # plugins can add pcm data to the buffer by calling audiobuffer_insert(pointer, size); 19.20.16 # the pointer will be copied to the ring buffer and if the buffer is full, the function just blocks 19.22.46 # Well, we demand a patch 19.23.09 # You will get it soon ;) 19.24.33 # next step would be to add a file and plugin buffer i thinkg.. 19.24.55 # maybe i could do that at weekend ;) 19.25.39 # I guess you should talk to Linus to see if he wants to push you in some direction 19.25.59 # yes, indeed 19.26.07 # yep, that would be a good idea :) 19.26.33 # better have some sort of consensus, it'd be sad if your work ends up being something that Linus just doesn't want at all 19.26.48 # or something he's already done 19.26.55 # indeed 19.26.56 # I still don't know very much about rockbox there might be many bugs in my code at the moment 19.27.02 # +so 19.27.18 # hmm, yes 19.27.37 # guess you're pretty much in sync with the rest of rockbox then 19.27.52 # :) 19.28.18 # But anyways, buggy playback code is far better than no playback code 19.28.57 # :D but now i still have to check if there is still one bug around in rockbox code or if it was in my code 19.29.20 Join izzy [0] (laitinei@huippu.net) 19.31.18 Join webguest74 [0] (~5087c46d@labb.contactor.se) 19.34.07 # Oh, it has been fixed :) 19.35.26 # is there some global volume parameter that i can use to set audio out volume? 19.36.36 # not from a plugin 19.37.02 # uda1380_setvol() should do 19.37.40 # why is that not happening already? 19.37.53 # hmm? 19.37.53 # Hmm, but I mean when you set the _rockbox_ volume slider somewhere.. How i could read that setting? 19.38.06 # dunno 19.38.13 # okay, i should find out :) 19.38.15 # you shouldn't have to 19.38.33 # when you set the rockbox volume slider, the uda1380_setvol() should be called, shouldn't it? 19.39.19 # Hmm, i think it should. However, i am not sure if it's called. But okay, that's so minor issue so i don't bother it at this time 19.39.56 # Now preparing to take a diff.. 19.40.46 # yes, so you should 19.41.37 # argh, shit, rockbox getting sound doesn't go to well with my plans of not coding anymore rockbox 19.42.17 # :D 19.42.31 # i have an eq ready for deployment :/ 19.43.15 Join StrathAFK [0] (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a216.wi.tds.net) 19.44.33 # Now you can try it =) 19.44.45 # http://ihme.org/~miipekk/rockbox_mp3audio.patch 19.45.54 # w00t 19.45.55 # Sorry about my bad tabulator identations.. I will use a different editor soon.. 19.46.01 # :) 19.47.19 # Sound.. amazing 19.47.44 Join Stryke` [0] (~Chairman8@cpe-24-168-110-99.si.res.rr.com) 19.48.15 # * rasher catches the digital flow 19.48.19 # hajaja 19.48.21 # :D 19.48.21 # excellent, man 19.48.25 # thanks ;) 19.48.38 # did you find any way to adjust the volume? 19.48.42 # I hope i could do more coding too :) 19.48.44 # Slasheri: congratulations 19.48.47 # not yet 19.48.50 # :) 19.48.53 # now to integrate it into the actual playback code instead 19.49.04 # if it can be 19.49.06 # however that'd work 19.49.32 # haha 19.49.35 # this rocks 19.50.05 # and still sounds wonderful, despite me having mangled the codec 19.51.23 # mp2 works as well 19.51.46 # * preglow is the first person to play something not originally supported by iriver! 19.51.47 # do you have an mp2 or the iriver song? 19.51.56 # i have some files that originally were mp2 19.51.59 # It should be also absolutely gapless when i or somebody gets this thing integrated to the playback code 19.52.05 # Slasheri: of course 19.52.23 # hohohoh, i repeat, this rocks 19.52.29 # =) 19.52.32 # It very much does 19.52.55 # someone put up a xshock, linus and rasheri tribute page 19.53.17 # I'm a bit hesitant to report this as progress though before we find out how well it will integrate 19.53.22 # of course 19.53.34 # i'm just saying it rocks finally hearing realtime music 19.53.44 # it's very much a hack, but it's still very cool 19.53.52 # Yup 19.54.37 # this song is hovering at 101,54% realtime.. is this because it's only decoding once the buffer is empty? 19.54.51 # or rather, not-full 19.55.22 # it can't decode as fast as possible 19.55.29 # it fetches data as it needs it 19.55.32 # rasher: yes 19.55.35 # Yeah, 'swhat I figured 19.55.49 # At the beginning it decodes at full speed until buffer is full 19.56.18 # with some luck and larger chunks, the cpu could even sleep for a bit, couldn't it? 19.56.29 # or will that confuse playback 19.56.34 # * preglow puts in a uda1380_setvol(0); 19.56.49 # rasher: that's the plan 19.57.01 # sounds like a good one 19.57.07 # yep. at least cpu_boost should be set to false when there is nothing to decode 19.57.28 # and when the buffer's full? 19.57.38 # exactly 19.57.40 # or is that the same case? 19.57.43 # heh 19.57.45 # :) 19.58.19 # plan is to render what audio you need using boost, then boost off and sleep/do what needs doing 19.58.41 # makes sense 19.58.53 # we're aiming for 300% minimum to allow it having a decent sleep and potential time for crossfading 19.59.49 # currently the playback will call yield until the buffer is not full. I don't know if sleep would be better? 20.00.03 Quit Strath (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.00.22 # or it could start solving quadratic equations 20.00.59 # there 20.00.59 # which means that I have no idea which is better 20.01.01 # much nicer volume 20.01.14 # damn 20.01.19 # the euro firmware DOES limit volume 20.01.36 # Hmm, great. The decoder can even play somehow corrupted? mp3 files the stock firmware could not :D 20.01.44 # sure 20.02.02 # mp3 files are pretty error resistant 20.02.04 # vorbis files are not 20.02.12 # at least not until it's been initialized 20.02.23 # if there's a error in the headers, you're screwed 20.03.29 # the iriver firmware boots so extremely slowly 20.03.50 # preglow: It's EU regulation, it seems... there was an uproar in Denmark a few weeks ago because software exists to remove this restriction from iPods 20.04.06 # i take it back, btw 20.04.12 # 1.65 is every bit as loud as rockbox 20.04.22 # ah, alright then 20.04.31 # but there *is* EU regulation on the volume 20.04.34 # painfully loud on some files 20.04.36 # yeah, i know 20.04.38 # Now i should prepare for an exam tomorrow.. More coding and features at weekend .) 20.04.39 # h3x0 is limited 20.04.41 # however that works 20.05.06 # I mean, it's not like iRiver gets to decide which headphones people use 20.05.17 # preglow, could you put up that new fimeware image somwhere? 20.05.35 # i'll have to put up the entire zip 20.05.56 # glow.m0f0.net/rockbox.zip 20.06.00 # thanks 20.06.02 # http://rasher.dk/rockbox/rockbox.zip 20.06.06 # heh 20.06.25 # i do have quite an old bootloader, though, will that cause problems? 20.06.28 # no 20.06.39 # but you should update 20.06.41 # indeed 20.07.05 # it's very easy these days 20.07.24 # yes, indeed 20.07.27 # My package includes an i-icon for .iriver files! 20.07.31 # with the firmware patcher gui, i assume 20.07.39 # mine includes my defunct imdct optimization! 20.07.42 # a preglow exclusive 20.07.52 # CoCoLUS: yes 20.08.11 # CoCoLuS: yes.. http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/IriverBoot/fwpatcher.exe 20.08.20 # thanks 20.08.35 # i thought i have to compile it myself, and my toolchain is somewhat fucked up 20.08.38 # It includes USB-mode-without-harddisk-activity 20.08.52 # it's a most excellent bootloader 20.08.55 # you should never compile the bootloader yourself 20.09.43 # but ok, i'll shove away this newfound enthusiasm and try to get some school work done 20.10.10 # okay, this file is playing double-speed 20.10.18 # probably lower sample rate 20.10.20 # which file? 20.10.27 # I'll check 20.10.44 Quit thegeek (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.11.14 # indeed, 32khz 20.11.19 # sounds funky 20.11.28 # then it's not double speed, it's 44100/32000 speed 20.11.47 # ahh 20.11.54 # i have this extreme urge to tweak this 20.13.10 # It's also running steadily at 140% 20.13.56 # should it be able to play any mp3 file in realtime? 20.13.58 # 44100/32000 == 1.378125 20.14.04 # Pretty good match 20.14.25 # CoCoLUS: Yes 20.14.37 # amiconn: Well it *sounded* like double-speed 20.14.39 # sortof 20.14.47 # I guess it didn't really 20.16.04 # it's pretty hard to be certain unless you're used to listening to files at the double rate 20.16.07 # :) 20.16.30 # CoCoLUS: it should be able to play any mp3 file, i'm not certain about mp1 and mp2 20.17.25 # wavpack and flack should also be ready for realtime deployment 20.17.34 # flac, that is 20.20.04 # hey, it really works ;) 20.20.22 # and it sounds perfect... 20.21.02 # i think there's a bug in my image, though, but that's probably my fault 20.22.04 Join Querty [0] (~michiel@heren.demon.nl) 20.29.05 # w00t!!! I'm listening to mp3 on my iHP-120 with rockbox!!! 20.29.15 # Great work guys! 20.32.57 # is it through a debug menu? or just normal navigation? 20.33.07 # just fire mp2wav 20.33.10 # mpa2wav 20.33.11 # ? 20.33.14 # from the open with menu 20.33.15 # like always 20.33.19 # is there any way to control the volume yet? 20.33.19 # when was mp3 support added? 20.33.28 # mp3 has been supported for ages 20.33.39 # realtime? 20.33.39 # temporary mp3 playback has been added just now 20.33.53 # yes, it's also been realtime for ages 20.33.59 # * Rick squints 20.34.06 # It's not added. A patch exists. 20.34.09 # ahhh 20.34.12 # that would explain it 20.34.18 # * Rick shrugs 20.34.20 # * Rick wants ogg :> 20.36.03 # Ogg isn't realtime yet 20.36.09 # it does work however 20.36.18 # just stutters a lot 20.37.30 # vorbis is being worked on 20.37.46 # Rick: i distinguish between mp3 support and mp3 playback 20.37.59 # Rick: mp3 has been supported for ages, mp3 playback is now added in a patch 20.41.25 # Now with Pedro Vasconcelos' optimizations and 120mhz, some ogg files would even play realtime 20.41.43 # (q1) 20.43.00 # q1? 20.43.21 # Quality 1 20.43.53 # rasher: how do you know this? 20.45.04 # ah 20.45.37 # Guessing from the fact that it's currently running at 70%, and I think he almost doubled the speed? 20.45.47 # (still on q1 files) 20.46.33 # q10 is running at 52% 20.48.39 # he mentioned 50% realtime at 49mhz using a q5-6 file yesterday 20.49.32 # cute! 20.50.19 # are his changes in CVS yet? 20.50.48 # No 20.59.30 # cvs is being sorted out 21.00.34 # sorted out? 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austriancoder 21.34.35 # you're alive? :) 21.34.38 # I don't think there is an editor dedicated to editing the icon data 21.35.06 # Rick: but how are the icons done? 21.35.17 # they must also be '"designed" 21.35.36 # MoosCamaro: yep... i am alive.. was a busy time 21.36.10 # hihi ;) it's joke 21.38.03 # * austriancoder wants to extend some icons for irver ... 21.39.21 # bmp2rb? or whatever it is 21.39.22 # ;P 21.40.27 Join tvelocity [0] (~tony@ipa159.0.tellas.gr) 21.41.00 # rb2bmp.. 21.41.08 # i want to extend the hold button icon 21.41.20 # and for this, i need the actual icon as bmp 21.46.04 # can't you just do it by hand? 21.46.18 # it's a pretty quick conversion for icons 21.46.33 # hmm 21.46.36 # i wil try it 21.46.44 # convert the hex to binary and you have vertical lines where 1 represents a lit pixel 21.47.11 Join markun [0] (~markun@bastards.student.utwente.nl) 21.48.01 # rasher: I made a patch for 'center-scrolling'. It's quite nice, 21.48.24 # markun: Is it an option? 21.48.50 # rasher: thanks 21.48.54 # No, not yet. Do you want to try it to see if you like center-scrolling? 21.48.55 # Either way, I'd love to have it 21.49.10 # Yes 21.49.24 # http://130.89.160.166/rockbox/center-scrolling.diff 21.50.46 # rasher: another thing, today I installed a 2200mah battery. Do you think I have to use your plugin to get the proper adc values? 21.51.08 # No idea 21.51.09 # Or should they be the same as with the 1300mah bat? 21.51.26 # Do you have the test plugin somewhere for me to download? 21.51.46 # I deleted it, sadly 21.52.04 # but it was quite simple 21.52.31 # it was just mpa2wav modified to call rb->adc_read(2); once in each loop 21.52.39 # adc_read had to be added in plugin.h/c 21.52.44 # ok 21.52.55 # that's all 21.53.18 # The only real work was waiting for the tests to run 21.53.31 # My oh my, this centerscrolling is nice 21.53.59 # make it an option and you have a winner 21.54.55 # markun: rockbox has a battery capacity setting 21.55.06 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 21.55.13 Join Seed [0] (ben@l192-117-115-168.broadband.actcom.net.il) 21.55.32 # oh right 21.56.06 Join TCK- [0] (TCK@81-86-102-98.dsl.pipex.com) 21.56.08 # general settings > system > battery 21.56.44 # ok, I changed it. 21.58.36 # The info now shows 14h 28m. Is that mp3 playtime or just idle time? 21.59.12 # It's an estimation of the expected playtime 21.59.31 # Probably not very exact on iriver yet 22.00.04 # And also doesn't take into account what codec you use. 22.00.14 # It can't 22.00.45 # How would you predict what the user will play in the next usage hours? 22.00.45 # It could say ogg-playtime.. mp3-playtime, but maybe that's overkill. 22.00.52 # It is 22.01.09 # ...because it does not only depend on the codec, but on bitrate etc pp 22.02.19 # * austriancoder swichtes to linux 22.02.28 Quit austriancoder ("CGI:IRC") 22.02.57 # But the estimate is accurate on archos? 22.03.47 # Same problems on archos (apart from the codec type). Bitrate, layer2/layer3, possibly recording.... 22.04.04 Quit TCK (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.04.26 # It is an estimate, nothing more, and can't be 22.05.11 # uhm 22.05.18 # whats "center-scrolling"? :) 22.06.06 # CoCoLUS: see this post: http://www.misticriver.net/boards/showpost.php?p=236372&postcount=700 22.06.21 # The cursor stays in the center of the screen (unless you are at the top or the bottom of the list) 22.07.01 # sounds nice 22.10.06 # why, it is 22.13.53 Join nobby-BRB [0] (nobby@ACBCBFB9.ipt.aol.com) 22.14.05 # anyone awake/alive/online? 22.14.09 Nick nobby-BRB is now known as nobby (nobby@ACBCBFB9.ipt.aol.com) 22.15.01 # Yes 22.17.51 # Seems I am on to something fishy.... 22.18.22 # * amiconn could need help from LinusN 22.18.25 # related to what? 22.18.36 # Archos recording 22.18.48 # ah, the garbage thing? 22.19.22 # I didn't get garbage in 50 hours of test recording now. 22.19.52 # However, I got the end-of-long-recording-written-at-start-of-file 3 times now 22.20.23 # ...even without disk full. Simply time splitting at 10 hour boudary caused that in 3 of 5 runs now 22.23.21 # is it the MAS garble bug? 22.23.32 # nope 22.24.15 # As I said, I didn't get any garbage in a total of 50 recording hours 22.26.00 # I've recorded 15 hours at a stretch and got MAS garble 22.26.14 # but ran it through a couple fixers and it worked well enough 22.26.40 Join pbvas [0] (~pbv@res04-pbv.res.st-and.ac.uk) 22.26.51 Quit pbvas (Client Quit) 22.27.03 # Plugh_: Did you try the latest daily build? 22.27.26 # amiconn: I don't do epic recording that often 22.27.41 # It has my new, alternate recording transfer. Seems to lower the probability of garbage quite a bit 22.27.50 # cool 22.28.02 # I'm gonna be recording in 2 weeks 22.28.12 # should be about 18 hours 22.28.34 # I use it for live recording off a mixer board 22.29.07 # which in general is fine, till the DJ starts fucking with knobs/levels 22.29.12 # My plan ist to try all possible combinations of quality, channels etc. Will take some time 22.29.35 # ...recording 10 hours at each setting 22.30.46 # makes my battery-testing look like a walk in the park 22.31.18 # My estimation is something about half a year in total, doing 2 tests per day 22.32.12 # that's intense 22.32.40 # blimey 22.32.41 # white noise? 22.32.54 # No, real audio source 22.32.58 Join ScHlAuChi [0] (ScHlAuChi@toronto-HSE-ppp4328674.sympatico.ca) 22.33.12 # why dont you let a bunch of people do the testin 22.33.13 # ? 22.33.19 # hi 22.33.24 # For 48 kHz I'm using a dvd with music, set to repeat the track over and over. Recording from S/PDIF 22.33.38 Nick StrathAFK is now known as Strath (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a216.wi.tds.net) 22.42.09 # i have a short question - but can a rockboxed flashed player act as USB server? (to make it possible that other USB devices can usw it as data storage) 22.42.19 # nope 22.42.31 # the USB chip doesn't support host mode 22.42.53 # you can buy an adapter 22.43.00 # have a link ? 22.43.14 # not handy. Search the mail list archive 22.44.03 # so in case the other device can do the "host" mode it could work 22.44.19 # i want to connect a PSP with my iriver to use it as data storage 22.44.57 # O_o 22.44.59 # can you do that? 22.45.09 # i have no idea 22.45.09 # maybe with an h340? 22.45.18 # i have a iHP140 22.45.28 # ihp cant act 22.45.33 # *act as host 22.45.39 # if the PSP could, that'd work 22.45.48 # transfer stuff you want to play to iriver 22.45.59 # then disconnect and play 22.46.05 # umm, there was some device that operated in host mode. Thought it was iriver, but I don't recall 22.46.14 # why not just use the PSP's player functions? 22.46.26 # iriver H320 and H340 do 22.46.33 # host, that is 22.46.34 # ahh 22.46.37 # cool 22.46.42 # actually i was thinking about using the iriver as kind of portable harddrive 22.46.58 # ScHlAuChi: get a 320 or better 22.47.10 # nope unfortunately not 22.47.37 # http://tinyurl.com/ak4f7 22.47.37 # but maybe the PSP supports the host mode 22.47.41 # http://www.iriver.com/html/support/faq/sufq_view.asp?searchProductIdx=&searchString=USB+host&page=1&idx=292&tmpSearchProductIdx=&tmpSearchString= 22.47.55 # h320/340 does host mode 22.48.21 # thats what *I* said :P 22.48.26 # i think those are the newer ones 22.48.30 # they are 22.48.34 # color screen and stuff 22.48.46 # "H300 purchased in the north America doesn't have this function." 22.48.50 # http://www.advancedmp3players.co.uk/shop/images/products/ihp-140/ihp-140large.jpg 22.48.56 # thats the one i have 22.49.03 # i also have that one 22.49.12 # minus some chipped off paint here and there 22.49.13 # :P 22.49.18 # it cant host 22.49.31 # oh well maybe the PSP can do ;) 22.49.43 # maybe 22.49.47 # as the PSPs with 1.0 firware support homewbrew applications 22.49.49 # go ask in #psp or something 22.49.59 # hey, cool #psp exists :P 22.51.29 # well even if the PSP doesnt - there might be still some kind of adapter or something that supports that 22.55.26 # I wonder what the recording time is like on an iriver ifp-899 22.55.39 # anyway - thx for the information :) 22.56.36 # I'd love to have something that small for one-night club gig recording 22.57.18 # one of the things im looking foward to in a future rockbox version is tracker support - playing Mods on a portable player is just too great 22.57.35 # erm, if you say so. LOL 22.58.11 # well thats what it says on the rockbox page under planned format-support 22.58.33 # I know what it says. I just question the wisdom 22.59.11 # It's an absolutely great idea 22.59.25 # Plugh_: i guess you dont know scenemusic.org ;) 22.59.48 # there are ALOT of people liking that kind of oldschool music 22.59.52 # * rasher is more looking forward to sid support 23.00.08 # I used to like it too, until mp3 hit the scene 23.00.54 # why not anymore then - youre more of an audiophile ? ;) 23.01.07 # sounds too ugly for todays standards ? ;) 23.02.12 # some time ago i actually contemplated making a portable with a sid chip inside :P 23.02.39 # http://www.sidstation.com/ 23.02.44 # i have that 23.02.54 # it's badass 23.02.57 # word 23.03.05 # preglow: If you ever manage to put one inside a cellphone for ringtones, notify me and I'll buy one 23.03.13 # hehe 23.03.20 # ooo, that would rock 23.03.28 # wild arpeggios for a ringtone 23.03.32 # i'd never answer it 23.03.34 # rasher: on scenemusic.org you can download a few classic tunes as ringtones 23.03.38 # It'd be so much better than these horrible midi things 23.04.06 # ScHlAuChi: it'll still be horrible synth 23.04.16 # well better than nothing i guess;) 23.04.27 # I already have some anyway 23.04.44 # i dont have a cell so i dont need those,) 23.04.48 # but thanks for the tip 23.05.19 # ah, it's nectarine! 23.05.23 # of course 23.05.30 # didn't know that was scenemusic.org as well 23.05.39 # its the same 23.06.06 # but the irc channel is also #scenemusic i think 23.06.35 # on ircnet tho 23.08.13 # where are these ringtones 23.08.27 # ScHlAuChi: mod music was good when midi was the only other thing we had 23.08.51 # was nice to have a tracker format with integral samples 23.09.03 # I don't think you can compare mp3 and mod.. part of the charm is that it's limited 23.09.06 # but the sample frequency was a bit low 23.09.11 # http://forums.scenemusic.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=736&get=last is the only thing i found 23.09.17 # but there was a link on the main site a while ago 23.09.28 # I'm not charmed by limits 23.10.17 # well the reason why people still like it might be nostalgica 23.10.19 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@carlsberg.heim2.tu-clausthal.de) 23.10.35 # but there are mods that really had fantastic melodies 23.10.51 # I can be nostalgic about things that have not been supplanted with better quality 23.11.10 # i can be nostaligic about most things 23.11.13 # if I had a fruity loops player, I might be a little more excited 23.11.16 # but technically inferior music especially :P 23.11.42 # Well I am charmed by limits, recognising what hell the authors had to go through to create what I'm listening to 23.11.42 # only in music or also in games? 23.11.43 # or reason 23.11.45 # mmm reason 23.11.49 # i love limits 23.12.02 # i think they're essential to be able to create easier 23.12.12 # and better 23.12.24 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 23.12.25 # you tend to focus more when you don't have any limits 23.12.32 # THAN when you don't have any limits 23.12.54 # err 23.13.00 # that made no sense preglow lol 23.13.08 # i seldom do 23.13.13 # "you tend to focus more than when you don't have any limits" 23.13.15 # makes sense to me 23.13.34 # he said "don't have limits" both times 23.13.49 # i know 23.14.01 # Aditya: he missed the 'than' the 1st time 23.14.03 # it's supposed to be like that ;) 23.14.21 # i, at least, focus better when i have limits 23.14.25 # i learn to use what i have better 23.14.31 # i think the challenge is part of the creative process 23.14.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.14.41 # the people who use sid chips are undisputable proof of this, they do amazing things with the little buggers 23.14.49 # yeah 23.15.03 # sometimes you have to listen really carefully to tell that there's only 3 voices going at any given time 23.15.16 # heh 23.15.22 # I work best when the deadline is about 2 hours away 23.15.29 # and yet they manage to sound like an entire band 23.19.17 # i really like remixes of classic sids and mods - remix.kwed.org - or amigaremix.com 23.19.32 # tho even if they might be technically better - the originals just have a different feeling 23.19.59 Join Biperooski [0] (~d92ba1c0@labb.contactor.se) 23.20.25 # Hello people how are you all, how is the project coming along 23.20.34 # Hopefully all swimmingly 23.20.42 # oh, we're fine 23.21.07 # got up, scratched my nuts, had breakfast, heard a couple of mp3s realtime on my rockbox, had a beer 23.21.11 # nothing special 23.21.47 # You have MP3 ability now ? 23.22.00 # good catch 23.22.27 # You have nuts aswell now ? 23.22.32 # why, i have two 23.22.49 # Slasheri made a hack that has mpa2wav play audio 23.22.58 # so we can at least demo the capability now 23.23.04 # Nice 23.23.10 # Is the radio coming along ? 23.23.10 # i agree 23.23.14 # i have no idea 23.23.20 # wasn't austriancoder working on that? 23.23.26 # or is my memory failing me? 23.23.34 # he was 23.23.48 # Cant trust an austrian tho can yer 23.23.55 # hmm this might be a stupid question - but wouldnt it be possible to use the radio tuner in some players to get the time ? 23.24.00 # how? 23.24.01 # so the iriver could also be used as clock 23.24.20 # No 23.24.24 # how can that be possible? 23.24.26 # It doesnt have the right chip 23.24.36 # ah i see - im no technican :P 23.24.37 # if it did RDS it could 23.24.47 # I believe 23.24.53 # but it doesn't 23.24.56 # * amiconn notices Bagder 23.24.58 # well, yeah, but we can't even tune in to those bands, afaik 23.25.06 # Would it be possible to solder the chip in ? 23.25.16 # it's always possible to modify the hardware 23.25.25 # but it's not going to be easy, i guess 23.25.30 # Bagder: I am currently trying to understand the mpeg thread. It's a monster :/ 23.25.34 # Lets go for it then, i want a intel P4 3.2ghz prescott 23.25.38 # amiconn: I agree 23.25.53 # Biperooski: you'll need an extension board then.... 23.25.59 # Iirc Linus wrote most of mpeg.c? 23.26.12 # yeps 23.26.17 # Biperooski: if a 0.5x0.5metre addon card sounds good, i'll have it done within the year a "modest" sum 23.26.27 # fora 23.26.36 # How much ? 23.26.50 # I could really need some help from Linus... 23.26.53 # $$$ 23.27.02 # Linus is a god among men 23.27.04 # a million billion pounds¤! 23.27.23 # thats a little steep 23.27.32 # Something fishy's going on, and I don't get it. Apart from that, I found 2 other questionable places.... 23.27.43 # eww 23.30.17 Quit markun () 23.30.20 # what's the mpeg thread do? supply the mas with mpeg data? 23.30.30 # yes 23.30.54 # does the mas eat mpeg frames straight? no need to decode them in any way? 23.31.04 # yup 23.31.16 # well the data need to be bitswapped 23.31.20 # hahaha 23.31.23 # Only thing to do is filter out non-mpeg data, like id3 headers and stuff 23.31.23 # that still makes me laugh 23.32.01 # The bitswap isn't a mas problem, just the SH1 spi spits out the bits in the wrong order 23.32.02 # silly it is, indeed 23.32.30 # I had my 1st driving lesson today 23.32.39 # SH2 and up allow switching the bit order... 23.33.15 # preglow: Even more 'fun' on Ondio. There the mpeg data gets bitswapped twice 23.33.44 # ...once when reading the MMC (via SPI), and again when fed to the MAS (also via SPI) 23.34.04 # Biperooski: congrats 23.34.26 # amiconn: so it has to be _bit_ swapped, not endian swapped? 23.34.35 # bitswapped 23.34.41 # ahh, that's worse 23.34.46 # can't fix that by wiring 23.34.49 # Endian swap is necessary for ata access 23.36.46 # endian swap they should have fixed with wiring 23.36.52 # * rasher installs cygwin 23.36.58 Part nobby 23.40.48 # amiconn: am I right in thinking that I have to compile binutils and gcc myself? (ie. not using http://lassauge.free.fr/cygwin/) 23.41.49 # rasher: I think you could go with prebuilt 23.41.56 # if you find binutils 2.16 23.42.05 # goodbye my good people, take care and dont brake any fingers 23.42.14 Quit ScHlAuChi ("bye") 23.42.18 Quit Biperooski ("CGI:IRC") 23.42.25 # for coldfire that is 23.43.40 # and 3.4.x m68k-elf-gcc 23.43.54 # yeps 23.44.33 Quit rasher ("CGI:IRC") 23.46.25 Join rasher [0] (rasher@zork.zork.net) 23.46.54 # rasher: For archos you can use the prebuilt packages, for iriver you have to build yourself 23.47.18 # (or use the Bluechip's devkit) 23.47.42 # why? 23.47.54 # what's the prob with the prebuilt ones? 23.48.07 # Last time I looked Eric only had binutils 2.15 and gcc 3.3.5 23.48.08 # Maybe they're not 2.15 or 3.4.x? 23.48.21 # ok 23.48.26 # 2.16 23.48.47 # 2.16, right 23.49.13 # Reminds me - I'll have to build the coldfire toolchain soon 23.50.06 Quit Querty ("Leaving") 23.54.07 # hrm, trying to crosscompile the windows sim.. can that be done from linux? 23.54.22 # yes 23.54.36 # /home/rasher/rockbox/build-env/src/rockbox/apps/plugin.c:546: undefined reference to `_audiobuffer_insert' 23.54.37 # apt-get install mingw32 23.54.43 # I have that 23.54.54 # I built the fwpatcher fine 23.55.23 # * Bagder tries 23.56.04 # 546? 23.56.17 # I have 545 lines in my plugin.c 23.56.28 # interesting 23.56.44 # ah 23.56.49 # rasher: mp3 playback patch? 23.56.51 # that'd be the audio output hack 23.56.52 # yes 23.57.08 # * rasher reverses that 23.57.23 # "cvs diff -u | patch -R -p0" :-) 23.58.19 # that helped 23.58.43 # i always keep my patches 23.58.48 # but that was a pretty good trick, bagder 23.58.56 # I use that a lot