--- Log for 16.06.105 Server: brown.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 5 days and 22 hours ago 00.04.55 # Slasheri: Your simulator warning fix is a hack that will crash badly if the plugin (that uses the codec) will be run on a core that is not bitwise identical to the one it was built for 00.07.57 # open source ti dsp is far in the future yet, methinks 00.08.29 # coldfire doesn't actually perform too bad compared to them anyway 00.10.22 # * t0mas is going to bed 00.10.24 Quit Harpy (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 00.10.24 Quit t0mas ("good night") 00.12.10 # preglow: Otoh, TI has something for you - an arm core ;) 00.12.34 Quit gromit` (Remote closed the connection) 00.12.54 Join Strath [0] (~mike@216.165.135.247) 00.14.33 # Wow, cygwin switched to gcc 3.4.4 (native) 00.14.50 # ...and surprise! my win32 sims don't crash anymore :-) 00.15.52 Join thegeek [0] (na@ti521110a080-4222.bb.online.no) 00.18.40 # woot 00.18.59 # arm is quite nice 00.19.07 # musepack port would have been no problem if we had an arm 00.19.21 Join F1^Aison [0] (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 00.26.31 Quit StrathAFK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.27.20 Join Nuxator [0] (~5544f1b8@labb.contactor.se) 00.28.21 # Amicon can i ask you a somthing? What version of m68k gcc do you have and version of binutils 00.28.40 # binutils 2.16, m68k-elf-gcc 3.4.4 00.28.46 # please finish the dev on iRiver before to move on Gmini ! :pp 00.29.00 Join mrlala [0] (~mistame@cpe-66-75-129-164.san.res.rr.com) 00.29.19 # ok thanks my simwin32 keep crashing 00.29.39 # and on the H3x0 00.29.40 # heh 00.29.53 # Guess it's because i use gcc 3.4.3 for m68k and 3.4.4 for normal 00.29.59 # Nuxator: The m68k toolchain has nothing to do with the sims 00.30.01 Join webguest76 [0] (~56817823@labb.contactor.se) 00.30.27 # What does gcc -v tell you? 00.30.39 # does any want to try recording on the iriver? trying to catch some bugs before checking into the cvs 00.30.46 # I just upgraded to 3.4.4 (was 3.3.3 before) 00.30.55 # That fixed my sim crashes 00.31.09 # some bugs = find bugs, i havn't got any "known" bugs with recording as of now 00.31.15 # 3.4.4 special 00.31.24 # Hmm. 00.31.40 Join silencer_ [0] (~silencer@adsl.via.ecp.fr) 00.31.58 # cygming special 00.32.05 # Nuxator: I have to correct myself, the iriver sim still crashes :( 00.32.06 Quit webguest76 (Client Quit) 00.32.20 # :( 00.32.21 # *iriver win32 sim 00.32.25 # status is mic / line-in selectable, playback / recording at the same time, recording gain / volume settings, recording monitor enable/disable, dump .wav 00.32.27 # same here 00.32.52 # want to buil one sim to write my own wps without testing it each time on real player 00.33.00 # i can't start it 00.33.00 Join webguest66 [0] (~56817823@labb.contactor.se) 00.33.19 # I'll try building all other sims now, perhaps the dual-head addition for iriver x11 sim broke the win32 one 00.33.47 Quit webguest66 (Client Quit) 00.33.51 # was broken for few days now 00.33.52 # I had problems with all sims before. The sims itself started, but some plugins made them crash 00.33.54 Join Meddler [0] (~56817823@labb.contactor.se) 00.34.10 # i can't even star it 00.34.15 # The crashing from plugins is fixed with gcc 3.4.4 00.35.00 # My sims crash from starting 00.35.11 # I don't even see the sim window 00.35.28 # DomZ: gmini is a very tricky platform.... 00.35.35 # h100 sim problem is some audio code gets compiled for the sim 00.35.37 # I'll try a brand new cygwin install 00.35.41 Quit F1^Aison (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.35.44 # Try running it from gdb, and you'll see 00.35.50 Quit Aison (Connection refused) 00.35.51 # hubbel: i'd love to 00.35.57 # gdb? 00.35.58 # Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 00.35.58 # 0x020dad64 in audiobuffer () 00.36.05 # does the H3x0 line-in/mic do stereo or just mono? 00.36.21 # Nuxator: gnu debugger 00.36.29 # never used it 00.36.45 # * amiconn points to Slasheri 00.36.55 # any news on when the H300 port will start? 00.37.21 Join silencer1 [0] (~silencer@zen.via.ecp.fr) 00.37.33 Quit silencer (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.38.18 # it does sterio bill 00.38.23 # Guys, I've been waiting with baited breath since the beginning of the year (when I first stumbled on MisticRiver) for the RockBox project to become usable on my iRiver. All I can say is "Bloody Gorgeous Work". 00.38.52 # thanks San 00.38.59 # when linus gets around to working on a bootloader for it, i guess. i also think we still need specs on its lcd... 00.39.38 # does he even have a h3x0 ? 00.39.48 # or a wigler for it? 00.39.58 # i dunno 00.40.06 # i *thought* he had one, but i'm not 100% sure 00.40.06 # He does; needed wiggler is the same afaik 00.40.22 # the cpu is the same so i guess the h100 wigler should work to 00.41.02 # linus did say he has a 340 00.41.11 # * preglow nudges hubbel 00.41.14 # Is the H300prot going to be in B/W at first? 00.41.25 # he has a h320 00.41.34 # i would say b/w at first is likely 00.41.43 # yes even h100 hasn't his 4 grays 00.43.02 # hmm 00.43.04 # ok, thanks 00.44.35 # amiconn: hotpluggable remote is more responsive in rockbox than in iriver fw 00.44.45 # It's faster, yes 00.44.50 # It's a tradeoff 00.45.12 # If you make it react faster, and someone plugs it in too slow, it might not get initialised 00.45.18 Quit silencer_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.47.32 # It seems the h100 simulator crash is caused by a name clash 00.48.00 # buffer.c defines 'audiobuffer', and playback.c does too 00.48.43 # The types match, but usage is different... 00.50.26 # s/playback.c/pcm_ playback.c/ 00.51.34 # Hmm. The latter shouldn't get compiled for simulators 00.52.22 # http://img55.echo.cx/img55/3880/mirc0ch.jpg 00.52.24 # oops 00.52.30 # wrong tap 00.52.31 # sorry 00.55.58 Join lostlogic [0] (~lostlogic@node-4024215a.mdw.onnet.us.uu.net) 00.56.11 # Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 00.57.01 # in audiobuffer() 00.57.35 # * preglow does the 'we got recording!' dance 00.57.41 Quit matsl (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.57.42 # wewp 00.57.44 # so my win32 sim crash because of audiobuffer? 00.58.03 # recording in h1x0? 00.58.15 # aye 00.58.21 # * Nuxator applause 00.59.46 # mhh i think it isn´t good when the h100 sounds like a floppy drive while loading, right ? :-/ 00.59.47 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@carlsberg.heim2.tu-clausthal.de) 01.00.31 # ouch 01.01.10 # <3 people working on H3X0 support 01.01.47 # i´m just putting some data to my h140 via usb and it sounds like a floppy ...arg 01.03.30 Quit Nuxator ("(good night Rockbox! Keep doing your good work all night ^^)") 01.04.43 # * preglow doesn't miss floppies 01.05.41 # i'm hoping that recording will only be limited by the FAT disk config, correct? 01.06.53 Part MisticJeff 01.08.29 # can't see any reason why it should be limited by anything else 01.08.45 # does iriver fw limit it somehow? 01.09.08 # 200 megs 01.09.19 # Huh? 01.09.32 # The only limit should be free disk space, shouldn't it? 01.09.41 # 2 GB per file 01.09.44 # yeah, it should, but the manual says 200megs 01.10.02 # (FAT limit) 01.11.08 # hahhaa 01.11.11 # what fools 01.11.22 # why limit on 200meg.. 01.11.42 # HCl: Why introduce gaps? ;) 01.11.43 # So the next model can miraculously increase it to 400meg... etc etc 01.11.56 # amiconn: So the next model can remove them... 01.12.02 # hahaha 01.12.06 # because i like having gaps between a metal song and a soft song. 01.12.45 # I agree - unless two tracks are meant to be played continuously, I like a pause. 01.14.13 # yea 01.14.15 # * preglow has a look at his empty glass and commands someone to send him free beer for all his agonizing work 01.14.18 # I wish I never started looking at the ffmpeg WMA decoder - it's causing gcc to crash... 01.14.43 # Sounds like fun... 01.15.03 # Real crash, not even ice? 01.15.16 # internal compiler error: in reload_cse_simplify_operands, at postreload.c:378 01.15.59 # time to work on getting gcc 4 to work ;p 01.16.58 # linuxstb: target build? 01.17.12 # linuxstb: what does it for a x86 build? 01.17.35 # Yes - m68k-elf-gcc 3.4.2. x86 build is perfect. 01.19.30 # I've just noticed another error message before the one I posted: "error: insn does not satisfy its constraints:" 01.19.40 # Mrf :( h1x0 x11 sim does the same as the win32 variant on cygwin 01.19.48 # linux build is working ok 01.29.30 # Huh? _function_ audiobuffer ?? 01.32.59 Quit yngwi ("Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.4/20050511]") 01.37.08 Part Moos 01.39.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.43.31 Join webguest02 [0] (~5087eaed@labb.contactor.se) 01.44.30 # is it possible to total the time that the HDD spins 01.44.38 # eh? 01.45.19 # forget it, stupid idea i had 01.45.35 # Argh!mrflp :( 01.45.53 # was wondering if its possible to have total on time totaled and displayed 01.45.58 # webguest02: you didn't exactly flesh it out much, so yeah, i'll have no trouble forgetting it 01.46.01 # heh 01.46.11 # * preglow pats amiconn 01.46.16 # iriver playback code uses off_t !!! :(( 01.46.27 # That's bad bad bad on cygwin 01.46.28 # anything wrong with that? 01.46.32 # haaha 01.46.42 # off_t is 64 bit on cygwin 01.46.59 Quit mrlala (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.47.48 # Do you now see why using defined types instead of generic ones is bad? 01.47.48 # should it matter? 01.47.52 # if it's used properly, it shouldn't 01.47.53 # Yes it does 01.48.06 # you can't exactly compare off_t with int32_t 01.48.15 Join stripwax_ [0] (~stripwax_@213-228-241-36.dsl.prodigynet.co.uk) 01.48.19 # one has a constant size everywhere, the other doesn't 01.48.25 # ello 01.48.29 # That's because of the two-part architecture of the rockbox sims 01.49.04 # stripwax_: yo, 'sup 01.49.15 # Everyting in apps/ and firmware/ needs to use the rockbox types, only code in uisimulator/ needs to use the system types 01.49.35 # then you need to put that down somewhere 01.49.38 # it isn't readily apparent 01.49.44 # yeah, still failing to build iriver successfully :( always getting illegal instruction. i'm trying out a fresh cvs; if that doesn't work i'll try out a fresh cygwin install :-( 01.49.54 # stripwax_: built your own tools? 01.50.02 # preglow: As long as this separation is done properly, everything is fine 01.50.11 # preglow - .. ? 01.50.13 # nope 01.50.18 # should i have..? 01.50.18 # stripwax_: then you should do that 01.50.25 # stripwax_: well, if all else fails, etc 01.50.27 # preglow: ...but more often than not it isn't 01.50.32 # - then someone should update the wiki to say so :-) 01.50.39 Part Meddler 01.50.46 # stripwax_: the cygwin wiki is causing us tons of problems with the iriver port 01.50.54 # most people come in thinking gcc 3.3 will do 01.51.03 # feel free to update it, heh 01.51.06 # i don't use cygwin 01.51.29 # preglow - well, until I updated the wiki yesterday, it actually said gcc 3.3.4 is the latest .. 01.51.45 # amiconn: well, i for one haven't the faintest clue what coding guidelines apply 01.51.49 # amiconn: and i guess i'm not alone 01.51.51 # do you know anyone who does use cygwin, -successfully-? 01.52.00 # * preglow points to amiconn 01.52.03 # stripwax_: me 01.52.17 # amiconn - ace. and you built your own tools? 01.52.24 # Built binutils and gcc 3.4.4 myself 01.52.44 # For gcc 3.4.4 you'll need the patch I added to the wiki 01.53.15 Quit San (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 01.53.34 # .. errrr... i'm reading this. http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment what patch? 01.53.43 Join San [0] (~Sanitariu@213-202-171-149.bas504.dsl.esat.net) 01.53.47 # I'm also using 3.4.3. is that no good? 01.54.11 # The one attached here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment?topic=CrossCompiler 01.54.24 # 3.4 of any kind should be good 01.54.35 # 3.4.3 should work too, but it needs a different fix (also on that page) 01.54.43 # preglow :) sure it should be. amiconn - which page?? 01.54.58 # not the one I'm looking at (unless I'm smoking something) 01.55.15 # oh, duh . missed that msg. 01.55.30 # Erm, wiki is a bit silly with linking. 01.55.35 # Shorter lik http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler 01.55.45 # *link even 01.55.58 # i smoked crack during my last commit, it seems 01.56.01 # so nothing is impossible 01.56.06 # amiconn - except I'm not building my own, I'm trying to install the lassauge tools. so do those not work then? 01.56.16 # stripwax_: well, apparently not ;) 01.56.32 # preglow ;-) 01.56.38 # Didn't try them, since at the point I built my tools, there was only 3.3.5 for m68k, which I knew wouldn't work 01.56.57 # The lassauge tools do work for SH 01.57.21 # so who is this lassauge fellow and why are his non-working m68k tools mentioned in the cygwin wiki? ;-) 01.58.23 # argh, shall i give in to tiredness or what 01.58.27 # The newer tools might work, didn't try them 01.58.45 # amiconn - well, they don't :-) 02.01.22 # argh. also, one a fresh checkout, i need to run 'make' in the tools dir before 'make' in the build dir. didn't see that documented anywhere 02.01.27 # ^one^on 02.01.37 # otherwise it says convbld not found 02.01.57 # convbld^convbdf. late, tired 02.02.16 # stripwax_: known glitch 02.02.31 # stripwax_: i think bagder's looking for a clean way to fix that, that ALSO has a lot of people coming in here fooled, heh 02.02.45 # it used to work 02.03.30 # maybe the wiki could mention it 02.03.50 # add away ;) 02.04.26 # I'll wait for bagder to do that, only he knows what he's doing. i'll add that, for now, you need to run 'make' in tools first 02.05.36 # bass/treble is in the cvs 02.05.53 # also first checkin of recording support 02.06.23 # going to commit the debug-recoding-example later 02.06.36 # not tonight =) 02.07.22 # ok, .. win32 rockbox build crashes on startup too. is it just me?!? 02.07.44 # stripwax_: That's the prob I was talking about 02.08.06 # It crashes in a _function_ audiobuffer(), which doesn't exists 02.08.14 # hubbel: sweetness 02.08.17 # There is only an array with that name 02.08.42 # Either type mixup (off_t is 64bit on cygwin), or some cygwin linker weirdness 02.09.36 # oh.. right! didn't realise was same problem, came into the middle of your convo. so I can't run sim or on target right now :-( I'll come back another day 02.09.52 # why not just compile your own tools? 02.09.54 # it's very easy 02.09.56 # at least on linux 02.10.06 # preglow: actually bass and especially treble really sucks on the uda1380, just 2 bits.. 02.10.14 # hubbel: no surprises 02.10.19 # It's not hard on cygwin either, only it takes a little longer 02.10.19 # hubbel: luckily, i never use them 02.10.25 # hubbel: my eq will rock more, i promise ;) 02.10.32 # preglow - because it's 1am and I gotta go to work at 8am ;-) 02.10.38 # preglow: looking forward 02.10.39 # pfft 02.10.39 # =) 02.10.56 # stripwax_: Expect an hour or so for building the toolchain 02.11.13 # amiconn - probably what I'll have to do. like I said, not tonight though.. laters 02.11.21 Part stripwax_ 02.13.22 Quit Stryke` (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.13.48 # Hmz, that would have been too simple :/ 02.14.26 # hubbel: there, no red builds or anything 02.14.52 # Hmm, how is that tool called again that can be used to run a program and tells you the system calls etc?= 02.14.56 # - = 02.15.02 # gprof? 02.15.18 # *shrug* 02.15.25 # No, that's not what I'm looking for 02.15.40 # Linus mentioned it once, but I can't remember :/ 02.16.06 # can't say anything pops to midn 02.16.08 # mind 02.16.52 # preglow: time to sleep 02.17.09 # agreed 02.17.15 Part hubbel 02.33.46 # gnite 02.33.50 Quit preglow ("big woop") 02.44.28 Quit webguest02 ("CGI:IRC") 02.45.10 Join MrStaticVoid [0] (~jlee@69-175-94-207.frdrmd.adelphia.net) 02.51.01 Quit spiralout ("ChatZilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.4/20050511]") 03.05.01 Join webguest18 [0] (~cea94304@labb.contactor.se) 03.08.39 Quit webguest18 (Client Quit) 03.08.42 Join webguest18 [0] (~cea94304@labb.contactor.se) 03.09.32 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.09.41 Join San [0] (~Sanitariu@213-202-171-149.bas504.dsl.esat.net) 03.10.09 # There's no easy way to ask this, so I will 03.10.39 # Can someone help me get through the Make errors I'm encountering? 03.11.13 # I swear I've searched everywhere on the RB site for clues, but haven't found anything 03.13.48 Join webguest21 [0] (~5087eaed@labb.contactor.se) 03.14.14 Quit webguest21 (Client Quit) 03.15.26 Quit webguest18 ("CGI:IRC") 03.15.29 Join webguest18 [0] 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(ashridah@220-253-122-219.VIC.netspace.net.au) 06.59.55 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 07.29.58 Join Zoom2 [0] (~44dfe933@labb.contactor.se) 07.39.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.43.18 Quit Zoom2 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 07.54.38 # amiconn: see http://www.misticriver.net/boards/showthread.php?t=23309 07.57.44 # Already got a mail containing these, thanks :) 07.59.45 # Unfortunately win32 simulator builds on cygwin currently don't work :( 08.00.06 # They try to call an array as a function, and segfault because of that 08.00.21 # Have to investigate why that is.... 08.00.58 # Erm, this is for h1xx only. Other win32 sims work, h3xx needs some work in addition to that pic 08.02.01 # yea, i suppose so 08.02.39 # i didn't read all of last night logs, but H3x0 has *one* button on his right side - hold 08.02.59 # and reset pin on the left side 08.03.02 # Is it a switch like on the h1xx 08.03.03 # ? 08.03.06 # yep 08.03.10 # i can scan it for you 08.03.37 # i didn't offer you my scans because my scanner is too bad ... 08.03.42 # Okay, the sim does not yet support hold, so it's not a big problem. It *might* be useful some time tho 08.04.02 # I'll try to do a h-140 scan showing the rockbox logo :) 08.04.10 # then i think it'll be better to do it when it's necessary 08.05.01 # ;) 08.05.13 # Already made a special build allowing this. Rockbox logo doesn't go away until I press REC 08.05.18 # but i think that there is already one 08.05.34 # somewhere in the wiki 08.05.37 # iirc 08.05.56 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxShots 08.07.10 # (a direct link from the home page ( 2005-02-08: Evidence of Rockbox booting on iRiver. ) 08.09.30 # * Bger must learn when and how to use "a" & "the" ... 08.09.34 # These are photos, not scans 08.09.58 # However, it would imho be a good idea if someone could do the same with a h-120 08.10.12 # (scanning it that is) 08.10.18 # yep 08.10.48 Join mrlala [0] (~mistame@cpe-66-75-129-164.san.res.rr.com) 08.23.45 Quit lostlogic ("Going to the moon") 08.35.58 Join ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-122-183.VIC.netspace.net.au) 08.36.41 Join gromit` [0] (~gromit`@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 08.41.48 Quit mrlala (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.43.34 # p0p 08.49.14 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 08.59.07 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.13.38 Join B4gder [0] (~dast@static-213-115-255-230.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se) 09.22.43 Join bobTHC [0] (~bobthc@l03m-42-7.d1.club-internet.fr) 09.25.13 # mornin' folks ! 09.25.18 # morning 09.27.57 Join Harpy [0] (aJLlep9x7Y@dsl-hkigw7wbb.dial.inet.fi) 09.30.00 Join webguest50 [0] (~5559280a@labb.contactor.se) 09.31.51 Quit webguest50 (Client Quit) 09.34.04 Join john__ [0] (~irc@8b0165012b2c1f78.session.tor) 09.35.05 # hi guys, congrats on the great works, I have one quick question, has Rockbox's idle poweroff function worked on the Iriver yet, or is mine broken? 09.35.45 # mine works ok 09.36.00 # hmm, strange 09.36.25 # I set mine to 1min, and it didn't power off after even 5 mins has passed 09.36.37 # I don't touch it, and it's not playing music or anything 09.37.00 # weird, :/ mine is set to 10mins and it always powers off 09.38.12 # are you sure it's the idle poweroff, or you're talking about sleep poweroff, which is a different thing 09.39.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.42.37 # ok, I just tested mine again to make sure, set it to 1 min, and it's been over 3 mins now, still not turned off 09.49.47 # john__: the thread that checks it only occurs every minute, but it should work. do you have the a/c adapter in? 09.50.26 # ashridah: yes, it's plugged in 09.50.50 Quit gromit` (Remote closed the connection) 09.50.58 Join gromit` [0] (~gromit`@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 09.51.09 Quit gromit` (Remote closed the connection) 09.51.18 # is it not supposed to worked with a/c in? 09.51.25 # john__: can you test that you're getting the same without it? 09.51.30 Join gromit` [0] (~gromit`@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 09.51.45 # well, on iriver, yes, it's supposed to auto-poweroff in both cases, but keep in mind that the archos platforms only charge while on 09.51.50 # (iirc) 09.52.12 # ashridah: ok, testing started 10secs ago 09.53.05 # and as i say, the thread that checks for it only wakes up once a minute, so it may be up to 59 seconds past the cutoff time 09.53.38 # yeah, I'm not going to touch it until 5 mins :) 09.54.07 # heh, it just powered off 09.54.23 # so w/o the a/c it powers off as expected 09.54.46 # that's a regression then, i thought they'd set it up to power off regardless of whether the A/C is in 09.55.10 # so did I :) 09.55.11 # amiconn: are we OK with H3x0's scans ? 09.56.40 # alright, thx ashridah , at least now I know so I won't be worried when I leave it at night :) 09.57.10 # later and good jobs guys 09.57.15 Part john__ 10.09.02 Join webguest44 [0] (~5087bb30@labb.contactor.se) 10.18.13 # automatically playing the next album once all songs in current dur have been played would be nice 10.18.26 # use a playlist 10.18.27 # dur=dir 10.19.15 # bass and treble works fine, thank you 10.29.14 Part webguest44 10.33.04 Quit linuxstb ("Leaving") 10.41.15 Join Nuxator [0] (~c02c4e5e@labb.contactor.se) 10.41.53 # hello 10.42.00 # hi, Nuxator 10.42.11 # Has anyone seen rasher? 10.42.27 # just a little question, why is there no view option une playlist submenu 10.42.44 # une = in the 10.43.30 Part pacroon 10.43.48 # rasher (~3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) signed off 2 days and 22 hours ago ("CGI:IRC") 10.44.08 # agggg 10.51.02 Quit Nuxator ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 10.52.56 # B4gder any objections to add iriver H3x0 in datasheets wiki ? 10.54.37 # certainly not 10.55.16 # o.O 10.55.30 # why do bass/treble controls change with increments of 2dB? 11.01.26 Join Nuxator [0] (~c02c4e5e@labb.contactor.se) 11.10.53 # * ashridah wonders if anyone's noticed that 2dB SHOULD be smaller than the necessary doubling/halving of the power level required to be able to detect it 11.10.53 Join cYmen [0] (~cymen@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 11.15.18 # hrm. bass starts clipping at about 8dB too. 11.35.57 Quit Nuxator ("CGI:IRC") 11.37.19 # w00t b/t working now? :) 11.37.35 # good news first thing in the morning 11.39.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.41.09 Join linuxstb [0] (~linuxstb@host213-123-154-169.in-addr.btopenworld.com) 11.50.17 Join webguest94 [0] (~acc8b50c@labb.contactor.se) 11.50.22 # Morning 11.50.51 # the bass/treble on iriver is super 11.51.20 # iriverbox 11.51.45 Join webguest76 [0] (~d5eb185c@labb.contactor.se) 11.51.55 # i like the way the bass doesn't thin out when you increase the volume like on iRiver f/w 11.53.18 Quit webguest76 (Client Quit) 11.54.21 # i like the way it clips at 8dB :) 11.54.25 # does iriverbox have the pitch control? 11.54.37 # well ashridah i know its an early bass control but its there 11.54.38 Join hicks [0] (~hicks@e2a6bd39597dba5f.session.tor) 11.55.45 # a working peakmeter would be useful as well :-) 11.56.23 Join Patr3ck [0] (~patr3ck@p549E5608.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.57.50 # ashridah: 2 dB is the smallest hardware step for the UDA1380. On archos, we even have 1 dB steps 11.59.01 # well since the iriver is software driven and has a much more powerful processor than the Archos, it should be capable of a lot of things 11.59.50 # but i can tell an audible difference between these so called '2dB' steps. that shouldn't be possible, should it? 12.00.05 # bass/treble are audio codec functions and have nothing to do with the cpu 12.00.05 # your MOM shouldn't be possible 12.00.09 # * odd coughs 12.01.17 # i know odd, yours should be though 12.01.37 Quit webguest94 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 12.01.37 # ashridah: Even 1 dB steps are audible, there's no magic 12.13.26 # are there any plans of using EEPROMs in irivers ? 12.24.42 Join yngwi [0] (~chatzilla@80.109.107.64) 12.25.08 # hello, everyone 12.25.25 # grats, the bass and treble work great 12.25.57 # all i need now apart from optimized battery duration are some kind of magical wireless headphones :-) 12.26.56 Quit Lynx_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.27.10 Join Sucka [0] (~NNSCRIPT@host81-156-209-158.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) 12.36.28 # amiconn: r u here ? 12.37.32 Join Moos [0] (~moos012@m214.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 12.37.36 # B4gder: u ? 12.37.48 # one "electronic" question 12.37.54 # try me 12.38.20 # please, see http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverH3XXHardwareComponents#P23AF_LVX245_Low_Voltage_Octal_B 12.38.29 # and http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverHardwareComponents#_F_P22AD_LVX245_Low_Voltage_Octa 12.38.33 Quit yngwi ("Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.4/20050511]") 12.38.55 # is this *exactly* the same beast ? 12.39.38 # i mean is this "P22AD" and "P23AF" just something like serial No etc ? 12.39.53 # just a mark 12.40.58 # looking at the data page, those marks don't seem to indicate any difference 12.41.17 # which data page ? 12.41.25 # http://www.fairchildsemi.com/pf/74/74LVX245.html 12.42.17 # http://www.fairchildsemi.com/TopMarkSearch/opn_all.jsp?stat=74LVX245MX <= this explains everything 12.42.36 # 10x ;) 12.43.19 # cool 12.44.21 # corrected 12.45.23 # neat 12.46.04 # many "same" there now 12.46.26 Join GodEater [0] (~c2cbc9d8@labb.contactor.se) 12.47.06 # yep :) 12.47.20 Quit GodEater (Client Quit) 12.49.07 # Bger: Here now 12.49.25 # Btw, the Ondio uses almost the same, 74LCX245 12.50.05 # yep 12.50.14 # i'm editing datasheet wiki atm 12.50.14 # :) 12.50.19 # btw 12.50.37 # Only difference seems that the 74LCX245 is 5V tolerant 12.50.59 # just was about asking: is "8-bit"=="octal" :) 12.51.50 # 8 channel 12.51.55 # s 12.52.12 # ops 12.52.17 # just saved the page :) 12.53.09 # iiuc i must change 8-bit to "8 channel" for LCX & for LVX 12.54.36 # am i right ? 12.59.19 # wow, this chip has been made since 1993 13.07.04 # * B4gder curses silly configure tests 13.11.22 # amiconn: you've named it "8-bit" 13.12.31 Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.14.44 # 8-bit and 8 channel are both correct. With 8 channels you can obviously transfer 8 bits in parallel :) 13.17.27 # i understand ... 13.17.49 # * San wants to thank Rockbok for the great Firmware 13.19.02 # * Bger wants to be able to say these words ASAP ... 13.19.27 # ;-) 13.19.31 # * San is waiting for the H300 port 13.19.43 # same :) 13.19.44 # * San sticks the thumbs up 13.19.58 # nah, I think the misticriver guys will make one :-P 13.20.15 # I am one of them MisticRiver goys 13.20.24 # Iand ihey wont 13.20.39 # * San meens and they wont 13.21.18 # * San is wondering if that was a joke now 13.21.25 # it was 13.21.39 # ok, my bad, sorry 13.21.41 # B4gder: Linux based? ;-) 13.21.42 # hehe 13.21.54 Join webguest49 [0] (~5087e076@labb.contactor.se) 13.22.03 # they were trying to get that going, the linux 13.22.26 # San: noone has *tryed* 13.22.38 # they were just speaking.. 13.22.51 # the jewel in the crown would be gapless mp3 playback :) 13.22.52 # but I found it hilarious 13.23.02 # and you can't make firmware or port linux with speaking ... 13.23.37 # I emailed the linuxiPod guys to see if they would make a port 13.23.50 # did they reply? 13.23.56 # and BTW i said "tryed to get it going" 13.24.02 # San: why do you want Linux ??? 13.24.04 # and they didn't reply, ye 13.24.06 # *yet 13.24.20 # they can hardly support their own platform 13.24.37 # I doubt they'll joyfully jump on a totally new one 13.25.05 # i do want linux 13.25.14 # San: H10 owners have more chance to make ipodlinux guys take a look at iriver 13.25.20 # it would be better than the iRIver firmware 13.25.30 # gapless and OTF playlists 13.25.32 #