--- Log for 23.06.105 Server: brown.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 12 days and 22 hours ago 00.00.06 # how did you find out? 00.00.20 # the halo 00.00.21 # and i figured out how to have loud enoguh volume to listen to it while mowing the lawn haha 00.00.25 # it's a dead giveaway 00.00.26 # oh... its just that each loaded image gets a number right? (so max 10) 00.01.17 # somebody wanna show me a screen shot of a image on there wps? sound intresting 00.01.27 # theres one at the forum 00.01.45 # http://www.misticriver.net/boards/attachment.php?attachmentid=2308 00.01.55 Join Stryke` [0] (~Chairman8@cpe-24-168-110-99.si.res.rr.com) 00.02.15 # grmpf. 00.02.15 Quit psycho_maniac420 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.02.34 Join psycho_maniac999 [0] (~d1ced0cc@labb.contactor.se) 00.03.18 # thanks 00.03.42 # pressed wrong button 00.10.28 # could you give me the link to that picture again. sorry i lost it 00.10.36 # http://www.misticriver.net/boards/attachment.php?attachmentid=2308 00.10.41 Quit benjimima ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 00.10.47 # there, pretty pretty codecs 00.10.56 # gotta go, then 00.10.56 # later 00.11.00 Part preglow 00.12.56 # looks ciool 00.13.26 # LinusN: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/save/Main/IriverTesting Wish me luck ;) 00.14.27 # is there anything wrong with %x1|images/logo.bmp|10|10 ? its the first line in my wps, and my player freezes when i start plaing (wps works fine without the image) 00.15.12 # psycho_maniac999: the first image on rockbox wps ever: http://tomas.salfischberger.nl/rockbox/wps-test.png ;-) 00.15.45 # image is .rockbox/images/logo.bmp 1bpp 00.16.02 # Moxon: look ok, maybe we should have a defined set of files to test with, amiconn has a good start for mp3 00.16.27 # I should encode a layer 1 set as well 00.16.37 # where do i get the simulator? 00.16.43 # OnkelJonas: how big is the image? 00.16.50 # Currently I have the same song, encoded as layer2 and layer3, all possible bitrates 00.16.52 # psycho_maniac999: you build it 00.17.04 # ...and all possible sampling frequencies 00.17.12 Quit ghostiger (Remote closed the connection) 00.17.13 # oh 00.17.19 # 210 files, 6012 MB 00.17.23 # bah 601 MB 00.17.41 # psycho_maniac999: the simulator is almost only useful for developers 00.17.56 # and for screenshotting tests ;) 00.18.01 # amiconn: holy moses 00.18.07 # I could encode the same set as other formats, as I still have the .wav sources 00.18.21 # ok then its not for me.... 00.18.48 # layer 1 might take a while; the only layer1 encoder I have is running on Amiga 00.18.55 # ...but it's a good one 00.20.00 # it sure is 00.21.29 # what is stereo width? 00.21.55 # LinusN: yes a set of files will a good thing. But they should be free files to avoid any legal troubles! 00.22.10 # Moxon: of course 00.22.19 Quit Febs ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.4/20050511]") 00.22.24 # amiconn: are you online? 00.23.29 # g2g 00.23.55 Part LinusN 00.24.23 Join wacky_ [0] (~wacky@modemcable011.4-37-24.mc.videotron.ca) 00.25.28 # I have an .ogg file that breaks playback on the Rockbox 00.25.41 # http://ip.bourget.cc:8080/dump/ahuh.ogg 00.25.53 # I have CVS from two days ago 00.26.05 Nick Moxon is now known as Mx|afk (~Moxon@212.80.242.132) 00.26.31 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 00.28.20 # LinusN - you read what I just said ?! :) 00.28.41 # LinusN: How would I change my email address for the mailing list? 00.29.13 Quit Stryke` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.29.14 # wacky_: try the latest bleeding edge 00.29.26 # you think the Q10 stuff will have that fixed ? 00.30.02 # amiconn: subscribe the new, unsubscribe the old 00.30.07 # ogginfo says: Negative granulepos on vorbis stream outside of headers. This file was created by a buggy encoderNegative granulepos on vorbis stream outside of headers. This file was created by a buggy encoder 00.30.12 # oops.. 00.30.24 # Bagder: ok 00.30.40 # but it plays well on some other players 00.30.56 Join Stryke` [0] (~Chairman8@cpe-24-168-110-99.si.res.rr.com) 00.31.14 # hmm.. I'll have to look into this later 00.31.51 # hey, tell me guys, is there more interest in the rockbox now that the remaining job is mostly software devel ? 00.36.06 # wacky_: i don't understand the question 00.37.09 Join TCK [0] (TCK@81-86-99-112.dsl.pipex.com) 00.38.47 Quit psycho_maniac999 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 00.38.53 # is there more people interested or participating into the project now that only software work is required ? 00.39.15 # development has accelerated since the basics were implemented 00.39.18 # if that is what you are asking;) 00.39.28 # Hmpf. 00.39.29 # wacky_: i think there is more interest now that we have come to a point where you can actually *use* rockbox 00.39.43 # * amiconn broke the iriver sim :( 00.39.55 # amiconn: congrats 00.43.16 # yeah :) cool :) what's developing the fastest ? 00.45.03 # what's being worked on the most ? 00.47.28 # multicodec architecture atm 00.48.14 Quit Stryke` ("Friends don't let friends listen to Anti-Flag") 00.48.26 # nice :) 00.48.35 # ok see you later 00.49.31 Join lostlogic [0] (~lostlogic@node-4024215a.mdw.onnet.us.uu.net) 00.50.41 Quit webguest74 ("CGI:IRC") 00.50.53 Quit wacky_ ("bubye") 00.54.11 Quit markun () 01.00.31 Quit Sucka ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") 01.08.18 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 01.09.00 Quit Aison ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.72 :: www.XLhost.de )") 01.15.04 Quit daven ("CGI:IRC") 01.19.37 # LinusN: I just had an idea. Couldn't we assign software poweroff to a long press of MENU on the player? 01.20.02 # amiconn: interesting idea 01.20.29 # It's not yet assigned, and MENU closely matches OFF on the recorder... 01.20.34 # wonderfully confusing :-) 01.20.47 # i like it 01.21.15 # Hmm, maybe it's a bit confusing... 01.21.38 # I think I should incorporate that USB power patch for units which benefit from it 01.21.49 # (fm/v2, Ondios) 01.21.59 # good idea 01.22.21 # Now that we have early usb there should be no showstopper anymore 01.22.33 # My sis is waiting for it ;-) 01.22.38 # go ahead 01.23.06 # She uses her Ondio at the office, and almost drains one full set of rechargeables per day 01.23.18 Quit Harpy (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 01.23.53 # * amiconn just tries to avoid tackling the graphics api ;) 01.24.15 # Nah, seriously, I just want to clean up some bits & pieces 01.24.33 Join as [0] (na@ti521110a080-1839.bb.online.no) 01.24.51 Quit thegeek (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.24.57 Join Bgr [0] (~Bager@83.222.160.88) 01.26.48 # * LinusN is working on onplay for wps 01.27.00 # Oooh, nice :) 01.27.05 # Someone asked today 01.27.17 # don't they do that every day? :-) 01.27.22 # (or rather yesterday) 01.27.54 # i'll use button_play|button_repeat on recorder 01.28.01 # s/recorder/archos/ 01.28.13 # Problem: Ondio... 01.28.24 # i knew it... 01.28.42 # Play==Right on Ondio, and Right|repeat is ffwd 01.28.50 # suggestion? 01.36.31 # Is anyone looking at the broken H100 sim? I get a different error to the automatic build: 01.36.33 # apps/settings.c:770: undefined reference to `lcd_remote_set_flip' 01.36.35 Quit Bger (No route to host) 01.36.53 # (this is the X11 sim) 01.37.54 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.40.27 Join amiconn_ [0] (~jens@p54BD7C30.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.41.03 # Grmpf, providers :-/ 01.41.15 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 01.41.16 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (~jens@p54BD7C30.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.41.21 # linuxstb: i'm on windows atm (shrug) 01.42.31 # LinusN: On ondio, all buttons with&without repeat are taken with the current layout 01.42.37 # Up/down (+repeat) = volume 01.42.43 # Left/Right = skip 01.42.48 # Left/Right + repeat = rew/ffwd 01.42.52 # Mode = browser 01.42.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.42.59 # Mode + repeat = menu 01.43.07 # OnOff = pause 01.43.18 # and 2 buttons combined? :x 01.43.25 # OnOff + repeat = stop (but not too long) 01.43.45 # Theres even a hard-to-get combo, Mode+Down = keylock 01.44.05 # amiconn: so onplay on ondio might not work... 01.44.12 # You need to press this so that no button repeats before 01.44.18 # LinusN: Don't worry, it's my mistake - I forgot to update the uisimulator directory (I don't use the sims very often). 01.45.10 # LinusN: Could the functionality be added to the main menu dynamically? 01.45.54 # Btw, the keylock combo isn't that hard to get, as the buttons are adjacent 01.46.05 # So you just need a large enough thumb... 01.46.37 # The other 2-button combo reachable this way would be Mode+Left 01.51.00 # amiconn: dynamic main menu might be the best solution 01.54.49 # LinusN: Hmm, can the fm/v2 recorder be powered down while USB is connected? 01.55.11 Quit MrStaticVoid ("leaving") 01.55.53 # I mean hardware wise 01.58.07 # good night guys 01.58.15 # nite Moos 01.58.21 Part Moos 02.02.13 # * ]RowaN[ has trouble finding a BDF font editor 02.02.30 # ]RowaN[: pfaedit or fontforge 02.02.38 # (as it is called now) 02.03.37 # <]RowaN[> god itslike swimming through treacle trying to find a binary 02.03.37 Join ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-123-141.VIC.netspace.net.au) 02.07.09 Join Strath [0] (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a230.wi.tds.net) 02.09.05 # ]RowaN[: http://fontforge.sourceforge.net/faq.html#windows 02.10.33 Quit einhirn (Read error: 148 (No route to host)) 02.13.00 Join amiconn_ [0] (~jens@p54BD734B.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.13.17 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 02.13.18 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (~jens@p54BD734B.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.13.21 # mrf!!! 02.14.20 # LinusN ?? 02.16.50 Quit hicks ("Too lazy to change my quit message") 02.20.57 Quit StrathAFK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.28.33 # amiconn: i *think* the fm/v2 can be powered down when usb is connected 02.28.46 # Don't you have one? 02.28.52 # at home 02.28.57 # Ah, yes 02.31.48 # Anyone else you know of who I could ask? 02.32.33 # don't remember 02.40.53 # <]RowaN[> would it be possible for the iriver screen to fade on, on powerup? or does the bootloader only kick in after everything is turned on 02.41.31 # <]RowaN[> hmm install cygwin environment.. that sounds like a never ending nightmare 02.41.49 # <]RowaN[> back in my day people made stand-alone applications 02.42.47 # ]RowaN[: i don't want to add unnecessary features to the boot loader 02.42.55 # to keep it safe 02.43.01 # <]RowaN[> fair enough 02.43.28 # LinusN: Does the bootloader switch on the backlight, or is it on by hardware default? 02.44.09 # default, methinks 02.46.07 Quit Rori () 02.54.09 Quit ]RowaN[ () 03.03.41 Join yyz [0] (~yyz@modem-1140.leopard.dialup.pol.co.uk) 03.03.57 Quit courtc (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.04.33 Join courtc [0] (~courtc@adsl-33-135-80.asm.bellsouth.net) 03.07.46 Quit Maxime` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.08.41 # hmm, i thought daily builds were playing mp3s, albeit without much optimisation? 03.09.22 # yyz: ...and? 03.09.39 # I04: IllInstry @ some mem addr 03.09.44 # IllInstr* 03.10.55 # and the accompanying lock-up 03.12.07 # the 0622 build is broken, try the latest bleeding edge 03.12.27 # ah 03.12.31 # just my luck 03.12.35 # thankyou :) 03.17.41 Join DMJC [0] (~DMJC@60-240-221-18.tpgi.com.au) 03.29.17 # LinusN: Now I have USB power only mode working, even with visual feedback :-) 03.29.41 # There will be a tiny USB plug displayed in place of the power plug symbol 03.30.08 # In case of units which can have both, the USB plug is overridden by the power plug 03.30.50 # (Tested on rec v1, although rec v1 has no real advantage from plugged USB) 03.31.21 # coolness! 03.31.34 # major context menu commit coming up 03.31.54 # still not working 100%, but it's a step forward 03.31.58 # Hope that doesn't conflict with my changes :-/ 03.32.30 # hope so 03.32.33 # i'll go to bed now 03.32.42 # usb.[ch], icons.[ch], powermgmt.c and some config-*.h 03.32.57 # amiconn: you're safe 03.33.03 # okies 03.33.11 # nite LinusN 03.33.15 # gotta sleep, hope i didn't break too many builds 03.33.25 # cu tomorrow 03.33.29 Part LinusN 03.42.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.53.05 # anyway to comment a wps file? cant find it in custom_wps_format.txt 04.01.22 # yyz: "A line beginning with # is a comment" from http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS 04.03.12 # thanking you 04.03.20 # i should try harder, but meh, its 3am 04.05.19 Join QT_ [0] (as@area51.users.madwifi) 04.09.28 Quit kenshin (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.16.16 Join courtc_ [0] (~courtc@adsl-154-43-54.asm.bellsouth.net) 04.17.37 Quit QT (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04.17.40 Quit courtc (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.18.44 Nick courtc_ is now known as courtc (~courtc@adsl-154-43-54.asm.bellsouth.net) 04.27.07 Join dapureplaya [0] (~anon@CPE-144-136-72-137.nsw.bigpond.net.au) 04.28.39 # hi. Just wondering, the last couple builds, i've noticed slower track changing while a song is playing (takes like a couple seconds before it plays the track i select. Is it my player or is it just a small build bug? I'm just not too sure because my player has been acting up a little bit recently. 04.29.03 Nick dapureplaya is now known as dapureplayaAFK (~anon@CPE-144-136-72-137.nsw.bigpond.net.au) 04.36.37 Quit yyz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.39.29 Join kenshin [0] (~dave@c-24-17-8-193.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 04.44.02 Quit dapureplayaAFK () 04.55.46 Join tvelocity [0] (~tony@84.254.10.26) 05.09.14 Join AEnertia [0] (~aenertia@210.54.152.120) 05.09.17 # Hey All 05.09.27 # I'm having difficulty building the ui 05.11.44 # I'm getting cannot find convbdf, the source is in the tools dir but it's not building it from my builddir ../tools/configure invocation 05.11.57 # this is a clean checkout 05.12.05 Quit courtc (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.12.55 Join courtc [0] (~courtc@adsl-158-6-223.asm.bellsouth.net) 05.16.50 # CC sound.c 05.16.50 # CONVBDF 05.16.50 # make[1]: /opt/rockbox/rockbox-all/tools/convbdf: Command not found 05.16.50 DBUG Enqueued KICK AEnertia 05.16.50 # make[1]: *** [/opt/rockbox/rockbox-all/audiohistory/firmware/sysfont.o] Error 127 05.16.50 # make: *** [all] Error 2 05.16.58 # any tips 05.17.47 Quit Audiophil (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05.17.59 # AEnertia: go into the 'tools' directory and run make 05.18.02 # then try again 05.18.21 # yeah I get no tagets i tried that already 05.18.39 # err hold on... maybe not... 05.18.40 # cheers 05.19.47 # hrm now other issues 05.19.55 # TLS issues... 05.20.00 # Is rockbox safe on AMD64? 05.20.33 # what part of rockbox are you trying to compile? simulator? or cross compiling to target a player? 05.20.45 # Development with Simulator 05.20.53 # I'm writing a plugin 05.21.09 # that explains why you weren't having trouble building the cross compiler. :) 05.21.17 # that said, i don't think anyone's tried it on amd64 yet 05.21.25 # using gcc 3.4.4 05.21.39 # I think I might have tried it way back over a year ago 05.21.40 # but preglow has poked at amd64 and rockbox development in the past 05.22.06 # I'll try it in a linux32 console and see what happens 05.22.53 Join TCK [0] (TCK@81-86-98-39.dsl.pipex.com) 05.23.57 # LD rockboxui 05.23.57 # /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.4/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: errno: TLS definition in /lib64/libc.so.6 section .tbss mismatches non-TLS reference in /opt/rockbox/rockbox-all/audiohistory/librockbox.a(errno.o) 05.23.57 # collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 05.23.57 *** Alert Mode level 1 05.23.57 # make[1]: *** [/opt/rockbox/rockbox-all/audiohistory/rockboxui] Error 1 05.23.58 *** Alert Mode level 2 05.23.58 # make: *** [all] Error 2 05.24.05 # Guessing it's the Xlibrary trying to link in 05.24.18 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 05.24.18 # * AEnertia checks to see if he has 32bit X librarys in chroot 05.26.13 Join Byron [0] (byron@63.77.203.136) 05.26.50 # Is the battery for the Jukebox FM Recorder 20 compatible with the Archos Jukebox Recorder 20? 05.28.17 # I have a Recorder 20 which gives me an ata-1 error, tried swapping the battery with the FM Recorder and when that battery is in the unit it dosen't even attempt to boot up... as if the battery was not making contact. 05.31.39 # AEnertia: neither preglow nor I have managed a successful build of gcc for m68k in amd64. 05.32.14 # AEnertia: i've only gotten it to work in a 32-bit chroot 05.32.29 # Ok that's good enough for me... I have a chroot... 05.32.38 # I'm getting funny issues now tho 05.33.11 # and you'll have to build gcc-3.4.4 (3.3.4 builds bad executables and 4.0 doesn't work) 05.33.35 # my chroot has 3.3.5 is that ok? 05.33.59 *** Alert Mode OFF 05.34.04 # not sure. haven't tried but i'd say probably not. 05.34.17 # 3.4.4 definitely work, though 05.34.19 # Ok I have 3.4.4 sources so I'll build that 05.34.34 # Any particular way I should buld it in the chroot (using gentoo) 05.34.36 # ? 05.34.52 # i'm just building xorg at the moment. 05.35.09 # make sure you clear out all your previous rockbox objects and build them with 3.4.4 05.35.21 # it's a clean tree 05.35.47 # follow the directions on http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler 05.38.50 # arg the directions are pretty spaz 05.41.40 # but the actually work 05.42.41 # all the ../gcc-3.4.4/congifure business keeps the gcc tree clean 05.43.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.47.25 # Do i really need the patch? 05.47.52 # Because i'm thinking an emerge gcc binutils will work 05.48.19 # you have to build the sources. you're not building a normal compiler. it's a cross-compiler. 05.48.51 # does emerge grab the sources without building them? 05.49.01 # can I set a flag in my global make.conf to tell gcc to build the cross compiler target/ 05.49.02 # ? 05.50.17 # i doubt it. when you run configure, it does a crapload of stuff to get the right target settings. 05.50.38 # it's really not that hard to grab the source, unpack it, build a couple dirs, and run a few commands. 05.51.52 # Yeah I know but it will screw up my chroot 05.52.51 # How? As long as you provide a --prefix and --target it won't mess up anything. 05.53.25 # if your --target is "m68k-elf" you build "m68k-elf-gcc" in the directory you specify with --prefix 06.01.59 # Is the battery for the Jukebox FM Recorder 20 compatible with the Archos Jukebox Recorder 20? 06.02.08 # I have a Recorder 20 which gives me an ata-1 error, tried swapping the battery with the FM Recorder and when that battery is in the unit it dosen't even attempt to boot up... as if the battery was not making contact. 06.04.40 # Byron Look at the wiki there is a whole page on batterys 06.05.03 # thank you 06.08.23 # AEnertia: any luck with your cross-compiles, yet? 06.09.40 # kenshin: he's building the simulator, not a build for one of the targets, afaik 06.13.04 # Just reading the gentoo 06.13.09 # wiki entries 06.13.21 # There is a crossdev ebuild which apparently makes everything easy 06.13.48 # Yeah I only really want the simulator and devel environment 06.14.06 # I don't have any hardware here to test on 06.14.26 # My Partner has my Iriver in singapore, and my JBRv2 is DEAD 06.16.53 # then you don't need a cross compiler 06.19.25 # Hmm... So my inital suspicious it just being X libs is probably correct 06.20.11 # Anyways it's given me a reason to update my chroot environment 06.25.06 # sorry. missed that he only wanted to simulator. 06.26.30 # i'm engrossed in trying to figure out Apache's mod_rewrite voodoo 06.26.33 # X didn't build properly in the chroot originally so i'm guessing thats the issue 06.26.56 # AEnertia, what happened to your Recorder? 06.27.08 # It's really REally Dead has been for a long time. 06.27.37 # I'm pretty sure the battery got cooked from using it with a 500ma car adaptor 06.27.44 # what's wrong with it, the reason I ask is because I'm getting a panic ata-1 error on my recorder 20 06.28.03 # Basically undersupplying current to Lion batterys is a bad idea 06.28.20 # They will work fine, but will get stupidly hot and eventually stop holding a charge 06.28.55 # That's what happen to mine, the heat managed to screw the PCB a bit upon an autopsy 06.29.14 # I tried swapping the battery from an FM Recorder into my recorder 20, and the good battery didn't give my broken recorder enough juice to even boot up, so something is funky, plus, the battery wouldn't come out and I had to take it apart to get it out. 06.29.30 # the v2 needs a charge in the battery even with mains power 06.29.59 # You can try charging it overnight via usb 06.30.12 # also, the debug screen says that the battery has 3.80v, and never gets any higher 06.30.13 # it might "Just Work"(tm) in the morning if your lucky 06.31.02 # the first thing I see is a frozen RockBox screen when I plug in. 06.32.19 # should I see a charging screen instead of this frozen screen? 06.33.24 # ooohhh, the rockbox screen gave-way after about 2 mins to a debug screen, it says 4.52v and it says batt: %82 06.35.23 # Have you tried using archos firmware upon boot 06.35.24 # ? 06.35.41 # Hold down f1+on I think 06.36.08 # it just sticks at about %25 loading 06.36.24 # what does f3 do? 06.36.58 # Bah read the faq, one of the key held on while turning on reverts to the archos original firmware 06.37.29 # Oh sorry, the archos firmware sits at 25% 06.37.44 # Yep, it's F1, it gets stuck though 06.38.13 # Yeah I would just let it sit forever until the battery is drained. Then charge it via usb slowly over a couple of days. Then see what happens 06.38.52 # too bad there is no quick discharge option somewhere 07.19.36 Join oxygen77 [0] (~c1c28427@labb.contactor.se) 07.19.36 Quit Byron (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.28.09 Quit kenshin (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 07.43.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.49.36 Join webguest76 [0] (~18d79b85@labb.contactor.se) 07.49.36 Quit AEnertia (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.07.24 Nick Strath is now known as StrathAFK (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a230.wi.tds.net) 08.15.57 Quit ashridah (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 08.23.13 Join ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-120-32.VIC.netspace.net.au) 08.26.36 Join kenshin [0] (~dave@c-24-17-8-193.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 08.27.29 Part DMJC ("Leaving") 08.43.21 Join Aramil [0] (~tony@ipa34.1.tellas.gr) 08.52.28 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.57.55 Join MrStaticVoid [0] (~jlee@69-175-94-207.frdrmd.adelphia.net) 08.58.08 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.00.40 Quit oxygen77 ("CGI:IRC") 09.05.39 # morning 09.06.02 Nick QT_ is now known as QT (as@area51.users.madwifi) 09.19.42 # morning 09.26.48 Join B4gder [0] (~dast@static-213-115-255-230.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se) 09.27.10 # ho B4gder 09.27.17 Join Maxime`Mrn [0] (~flemmard@fbx.flemmard.net) 09.27.19 # morning 09.27.41 # 'hi 09.27.52 # is it to hot to do anything there too? 09.28.03 # hi B4gder 09.39.09 Join bobTHC [0] (~bobthc@l05v-28-127.d1.club-internet.fr) 09.40.41 Join webguest39 [0] (~d56be013@labb.contactor.se) 09.41.44 # hi folks ! 09.42.31 Quit webguest39 (Client Quit) 09.43.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.43.27 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 09.43.35 Join Seed [0] (ben@l192-117-115-168.broadband.actcom.net.il) 09.50.05 Quit webguest76 ("CGI:IRC") 09.54.08 Join kergoth [0] (~kergoth@c-24-118-219-25.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 09.55.37 Part kergoth ("Leaving") 10.08.05 Join pitman [0] (~Pitman@134.7.49.64) 10.16.35 Quit linuxstb ("Leaving") 10.20.54 Join mborus [0] (~3e9a8f55@labb.contactor.se) 10.23.32 # Hi, with the current bleeding there's a problem with mp2 48 kHz playback buffering. 10.23.38 # On start it buffers and plays until 1:12. The buffering 10.23.42 # is startet every 10-15 seconds and often, the sound stops 10.23.47 # before the HD spins up. 10.23.53 # This worked better with yesterday's build which played for 10.23.57 # a full hour without any stuttering. 10.24.01 # I'm using a two hour 192k mp2 soundfile on a HP140. 10.25.21 # that's preglows up/down sampling code 10.25.40 # I guess it takes to much cpu to downsample from 48 Khz 10.25.56 # yes, but why the buffering after 1:12? 10.26.10 Quit Maxime`Mrn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.26.10 # don't know 10.26.12 # Slasheri? 10.26.13 # sounds like the initial 2MB buffer 10.26.33 # but Slasheri's the man to tell 10.27.09 Join Flemmard [0] (~flemmard@fbx.flemmard.net) 10.27.14 # Hmm, yep. That sounds like a buffering problem. I can test that later with mp2 file. Now i have to go 10.28.42 # OK, have to go too. 10.29.06 Quit mborus ("CGI:IRC") 10.34.34 # *yawn* 10.34.50 # its not often that i have my own nightmares telling me to wake up 10.39.19 Join Aison [0] (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 10.39.50 # ur in the wrong timezone mate... I'm just finishing up work listening to some music thanks to rockbox ;-) 10.40.25 # * B4gder brought his iriver this morning only to find out that his install fails to play music... 10.41.13 # todays build (20050623) seems to be a bit buggier than previous builds 10.42.15 Join Maxime`Mrn [0] (~flemmard@fbx.flemmard.net) 10.42.18 # my plylist is jumping around a bit... and there is quite a delay between when you press play and the song starts 10.42.26 # yes 10.42.32 # that delay is new 10.42.35 # reason? 10.42.39 # don't know 10.42.41 # it was reported already a few days ago 10.42.50 # I think it has something todo with the crossfade code? 10.43.28 # ic... I have one particular Mp3 that doesnt play quite right... but it plays using other software (ie xmms) 10.43.44 # pitman: 44.1Khz ? 10.44.09 # yeah... I have seen others reporting playback problems... but this doesnt seem to be the same 10.44.31 # it is just the one MP3 (out of 6000) that I have found that does it so far 10.44.58 # I bet Slasheri and the lot would be happy if you could make it available for download/testing 10.45.00 # Mrf. The wps context patch took away a number of features from the main menu, but the Ondio can't have wps context. So some features are no longer available :( 10.45.13 # :-( 10.45.42 Join Maxou` [0] (~flemmard@fbx.flemmard.net) 10.45.44 # I'll try to re-add these options for Ondio only 10.45.51 # (#ifndef WPS_CONTEXT) 10.46.09 # this might seem like a stupid question but... how do you make it available for download/testing? 10.47.35 # pitman: how big is it? 10.47.51 # about 4Mb 10.49.54 # pitman: do you have some hosting space at your isp? 10.50.18 # nah... I'm actually just at work (university) 10.50.48 # hm... most universities give some webspace? 10.50.50 # I can email it to someone 10.51.02 # yeah... australia is a bit backward 10.51.20 # hm... B4gder? maybe we should start some dump thing on the rockbox site? 10.51.31 # we were so excited when our campus upgraded to win95 last week 10.51.47 # omg... 10.51.53 # This can't be an upgrade... 10.52.21 # hehe... I suppose we are also in the stage of blissful ignorance ;-) 10.52.46 # damn 10.52.49 # before anyone realised how much of a monster windows can actually become 10.52.59 # Bleep Bleep Bleep 10.53.10 # root@athlon build # acpi -t 10.53.10 # Thermal 1: ok, 56.0 degrees C 10.53.15 # :| 10.53.20 # who set that to 55.0 10.54.43 Join Harpy [0] (mbwLeDlTV9@dsl-hkigw7wbb.dial.inet.fi) 10.55.29 # t0mas: Athlons can take much higher temperatures 10.55.34 # I know 10.55.41 # up to 85-100 depending on the cpu 10.55.43 # that's why I'm wondering who set it this low... 10.55.47 # mobile athon can take 100 10.55.48 # lol 10.55.52 # it's an XP 3200+ 10.55.59 # 100C? damn thats hot 10.55.59 # heh 10.56.07 # afaik 90C is the max 10.56.36 # never noticed this low alert... it's normally < 40 10.56.47 # On an athlon I'd set an alarm to 75 or 80 °C 10.56.51 Join Chamois [0] (HydraIRC@champigny-5-82-226-182-23.fbx.proxad.net) 10.57.06 # hm... 10.57.15 # I normally set em to 65 10.57.22 # then I know when the fan is breaking :) 10.57.43 # shit... there is no way to stop the alert from software :X 10.57.53 # BIOS alarm? 10.57.57 # yes 10.58.50 # * t0mas raises his music volume 11.00.14 # lmao. 11.00.18 # lazy. 11.00.20 # just reboot 11.00.27 Quit Flemmard (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.01.06 # reboot? 11.01.16 # there is a reason for it to be at 100% load... 11.01.19 # I'm using it :P 11.01.49 # load average: 6.53, 5.39, 5.95 11.01.56 # to do what? 11.01.57 Quit Maxime`Mrn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.02.00 # 10:54:50 up 109 days, 21:47, 14 users, load average: 4.01, 4.01, 4.00 11.02.16 # i'm at load 4 by default 11.02.32 # but since i have 4 cpus, thats fine 11.02.52 # ghehe 11.03.02 # * t0mas forgot his servers birthday last week :( 11.03.04 # bobby:~# uptime 11.03.04 # 11:02:26 up 307 days, 1:49, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 11.03.17 # birthday? >.> 11.03.24 # well... 300th day ;) 11.03.39 # it's exacly as old as the uptime... 11.03.53 # I installed it the day it came in here... and it's been running ever since 11.04.14 # still running a 2.4 kernel :) 11.04.15 # Linux bobby 2.4.18-1-686 #1 Wed Apr 14 18:20:10 UTC 2004 i686 unknown 11.05.05 # but after this compile... I'll have to reboot anyway 11.05.06 # Linux titania 2.6.8.1 #7 SMP Mon Dec 13 21:22:37 CET 2004 i686 GNU/Linux 11.05.14 # so I can change this irritating alert 11.06.04 # * HCl stretches. 11.06.08 # hmm, hunger 11.06.11 # * t0mas looks for something to eat 11.06.12 # oh lol 11.06.15 # * HCl guesses he'll get up 11.07.25 Join markun [0] (~markun@bastards.student.ipv6.utwente.nl) 11.07.35 # morning everyone 11.07.48 # morning 11.11.45 # hey markun 11.11.55 # Feeling better today? 11.12.00 # yea, just sleepy 11.12.12 # Will you do the AI exam on friday? 11.12.18 # um. no. 11.12.56 Join preglow [0] (~81f18ab7@labb.contactor.se) 11.14.32 # just got a mail from david bryant, and he to more or less recommended that we try to keep the data format as high resolutioned as possible all the way 11.15.06 # hi 11.16.40 # ah 11.16.43 # beeping has stopped 11.16.44 # Hmm, this is very non-trivial 11.16.45 # :D 11.16.46 # :( 11.17.19 # B4gder: What do you think? I've got an idea for wps context on Ondio, but I'm not sure whether this will be nice... 11.17.55 # ...a long press of the MODE button in wps could call the context menu *instead* of the main menu 11.18.18 # personally, I think I would like that 11.18.26 # Another (short) press of the MODE button could then switch to main menu 11.18.28 # if I had an Ondio 11.19.15 # ...instead of leaving the menu again like normal 11.19.25 # This is a bit inconsistent though... 11.19.48 # Maybe this could/should be even made the default behaviour for context menus? 11.20.33 # I mean, switch from context menu to main menu with the menu button, whatever that is 11.20.39 # Or just on Ondio? 11.20.57 # we could try to make it generic and see how it feels 11.21.19 # he's also done some spdif recordings of how the iriver firmware does resampling 11.21.23 # there's not the same need on non-ondio, but it might be nice 11.21.28 # and it seems they actually use iir filters for 48->44.1 11.21.50 # and sinc interpolation for upsampling 11.22.05 # Then I would define WPS_CONTEXT to be BUTTON_MENU|BUTTON_REPEAT on Ondio, and undefine WPS_MENU instead 11.22.27 # preglow: iir filters?? 11.22.43 # http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/pitman-problem.mp3 11.22.56 # that's the file pitman gets playback problems with 11.24.25 # B4gder: have you tried it on your iriver? 11.24.31 # no 11.24.49 # I can't do it now 11.25.15 # about a week ago when it had the 20050616 build the problem was different from what I get now 11.25.51 # last week... the song played ok, but the timer moved at about 2 times the speed 11.26.06 # so the song finished and went onto the next track before it should have 11.26.10 # IIR = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_impulse_response 11.26.27 # but now... I cant even reconise the song it plays so poorly 11.26.33 # what software shall i use to encode a cd in mp3 gapless ? 11.26.40 # Chamois: lame 11.26.50 # lame --nogap 11.26.54 # amiconn: just a kind of moderatly quick filter 11.27.10 # B4gder : thx 11.27.25 # akin to analogue filters in how they function 11.30.10 # david said he'd be interested in helping us out with this when he's done with implementing wavpack recording 11.30.30 # encoding, that is 11.31.18 # so thus far the iriver firmware certainly seems to be doing a better job than us in resampling 11.31.23 # which isn't really surprising... 11.37.06 # B4gder: It's not too hard implementing this behaviour, thanks to the callback feature in the menu functions 11.38.56 # pitman: if possible, please email the file to me at miipekk@ihme.org 11.39.28 # Slasheri: B4gder made it available for download, http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/pitman-problem.mp3 11.39.46 # ah, good :) 11.39.53 # :-) 11.40.59 # hey guys... I know this idea has been shot-down with regard to the Archos... but do you think that the iriver could do multitrack recording? 11.41.43 # ideally... if the recorder could take the left and right channels and record them as two separate mono tracks... 11.42.07 # hmm, that is of course possible 11.42.17 # then to play them back it could mix and play them 11.42.27 # that would be wicked for song-writing 11.43.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.43.19 # B4gder: Any objections if I assign MENU_EXIT2 a special meaning 11.43.20 # ? 11.43.46 # I sorted the MENU_EXIT* buttons to be *2 the menu button on all platforms 11.44.02 # ...and check for that in onplay() 11.47.44 # Hmm, I should better rename it... 11.48.20 # pitman: i believe you'd end up with a lot of crosstalk 11.49.17 Join yyz [0] (~yyz@modem-2748.lion.dialup.pol.co.uk) 11.49.46 # crosstalk? ur talking to a newbie sorry :-s 11.51.28 # I had the impression that the iriver was software-based encoding-decoding? 11.52.33 # yes 11.52.42 # the contents of one channel might leak over into the other 11.52.46 # that's crosstalk 11.52.52 Join yyz- [0] (~yyz@modem-2255.lemur.dialup.pol.co.uk) 11.53.00 # oh... I see 11.53.07 # so if you plan on using each of the channels in the stereo plug to carry seperate audio... 11.53.14 # but i don't know if its so bad it's a problem 11.53.38 # yeah... I do it a bit with cassett tapes and stuff like that... it works ok.. ish 11.53.39 # The iriver playback crosstalk is quite high 11.54.19 # depends on if you want true binaural or not 11.54.29 # how about just recording one track at a time... but having other tracks mixing and playing back at the same time as you are recording? 11.54.53 # is that even possible?... I know I am probably getting a bit ahead of myself here 11.55.03 # very possible 11.55.15 # even that would be cool 11.55.19 # depends on how much you wanna record 11.55.27 # like a little 4-track 11.55.27 # too many tracks at once, and we might have problems reading them off the disk 11.55.40 # should be possible 11.55.52 # yeah... 4 tracks is great for recording ideas and stuff 11.56.06 # i can imagine 11.56.21 # then... I know that for CPU things you get this latency-problem 11.56.46 # must admit that I don't know what it is really... but CoolEdit and these types of programs have to deal with it 11.57.49 # can software be written to give low latency? 11.58.11 # 'course 11.58.15 # up to a limit 11.58.38 # mind you... you would only want 4 mono-tracks 11.59.07 # so would that make the effort required to mix it equivalent to mixing only 2 stereo tracks? 11.59.50 # B4gder: It seems to work... and it only adds 48 bytes of code... :-) 12.03.04 Join ghostiger [0] (~ghostiger@348eec8ff0c147f6.session.tor) 12.09.59 Join hicks [0] (~hicks@ec7bbee55fe51a9d.session.tor) 12.10.54 Quit yyz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.11.22 Nick yyz- is now known as yyz (~yyz@modem-2255.lemur.dialup.pol.co.uk) 12.12.02 Quit Maxou` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.12.26 Quit pitman ("QuIRC for *nix - http://quirc.org/") 12.14.06 # aah, if only we could cram an n64 emulator into the iriver :) 12.14.40 # as in the game console n64 thing? 12.15.54 Join Maxime`Mrn [0] (~flemmard@fbx.flemmard.net) 12.16.12 # erm.. my power supply dislike warm (: 12.16.40 Join GodEater [0] (~c2cbc9d8@labb.contactor.se) 12.17.46 # yesterday was clearly "international hack on rockbox day" - I've not seen a CVS log that long in ages :) 12.18.09 # it was a fine day indeed 12.20.32 # B4gder: I have my options back :) 12.21.52 # hopefully even nicer than before 12.22.14 # It will need some time to get used to it... 12.22.31 # I can understand that 12.22.44 # * B4gder hasn't tried it yet 12.23.42 # I wonder whether we should drop the F3 quick screen for recorders and use F3 as an alternative context button instead 12.24.25 # sounds like a good idea... 12.25.09 # * HCl obviously isn't awake yet.. 12.25.21 # Imho we should drop the ON+PLAY combo as well. It's inconsistent between browser and wps (only the browser has it) 12.25.26 # first i think its saturday, then i think its friday, then someone tells me its actually thursday 12.26.53 # it's not monday? 12.26.58 Nick Aramil is now known as tvelocity (~tony@ipa34.1.tellas.gr) 12.27.19 # B4gder: Dropping ON+PLAY makes onplay.[ch] named a bit odd though... 12.27.25 # hehe 12.27.34 # HCl: Nah, isn't it Sunday? ;) 12.27.47 # its funday! 12.27.55 # definitely. 12.27.58 # i think B4gder is right 12.33.52 Join Moos [0] (moos012@m214.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 12.39.17 Join Coldtoast [0] (edan@ppp110-115.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net) 12.39.57 # hey. is it possible to remove all the icons from the WPS? 12.40.26 # you mean the status line? 12.40.33 # oh yeah 12.40.38 # THAT'S in teh options! 12.40.38 # yes it is 12.40.46 # :-) 12.40.46 # doh! heh. thx 12.43.28 # uf... these WPS guys have never heard about "hide attachment in normal topic view" 12.47.01 # hehe.. 12.47.20 # gotta go 12.47.23 Part preglow 12.48.12 Join ]RowaN[ [0] (a2b0y@62.128.222.176) 12.50.28 Join Febs [0] (~chatzilla@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 12.50.29 # 1.02M/s 12.50.32 # i love 100mbit :) 12.50.44 # <]RowaN[> is crossfading going to become configurable? i.e. song 1 fadeout duration, song2 fadein duration, overlap length 12.50.57 # it takes more time to get my xbox into divx playing mode than to download the 300mb file off the internet 12.51.01 # :) 12.51.10 # ]RowaN[: if someone writes it... yes 12.51.19 # HCl: 5 minutes for booting into divx mode?? 12.51.22 # <]RowaN[> thank god for someone 12.51.34 # but only to a certain degree, the fading is using a static sized buffer 12.51.39 # t0mas: nope, but 1mb/s is more than enough to stream off the internet 12.51.40 # :) 12.51.46 # ah ok 12.51.55 # <]RowaN[> t0mas i'd help if i could but im not clever ='[ 12.52.23 # maybe Slasheri can do it... he wrote the crossfading thing 12.52.48 # I think we should focus on getting things to work first 12.52.52 # _then_ getting fancy 12.53.02 # but that's me 12.53.23 # * ]RowaN[ stills looks for a standalone bdm editor 12.53.35 # bdf 12.53.40 # <]RowaN[> hehe thats the one 12.54.07 # 12:45:28 (1012.28 KB/s) - `[BleachSociety]_Bleach_-_37_[E2FB869A].avi' saved [183961600/183961600] 12.54.10 # :) 12.54.15 # * HCl petpets 100mbit 12.54.27 # afk now 12.54.40 # 1000KB is not very much for 100mbit 12.54.49 # well. it depends on the serer 12.54.50 # server 12.54.51 # really 12.54.58 # http://maxime67.free.fr/uhu4.jpg < 12.54.58 # I often get 800kb/s on my 8mbit 12.54.59 # most servers can't pull even 1mb/s 12.55.01 # * Maxime`Mrn lvoes ADSL2+ 12.55.07 # its the server :P 12.55.14 # microsofts servers are fast enough for example 12.55.18 # i get 8mb/s from those 12.55.27 # but most internet servers don't manage more than 1mb 12.55.36 # french 20Mb ADSL 2+ is great :p 12.56.37 # what's your max speed so far Maxime`Mrn? 12.56.48 # Coldtoast: the speed on the screenshot 12.56.53 # 1.9Mo/s 12.57.00 # oh no not the bandwidth thing again... 12.57.23 # not bad. that's about 16mbit 12.57.49 # be cool to get the full 24mbit :) 12.57.59 # What the *** has this: 12.58.00 # #if defined(SIMULATOR) && defined(HAVE_LCD_CHARCELLS) 12.58.09 # I migh tmove right next to the exchange here just to get 24mbit 12.58.15 # to do in lcd-recorder.c and lcd-h100.c ??? 12.58.25 # amiconn: seems off 12.58.31 # way off 12.58.39 # This will never be true... 12.58.51 # I'll sort these files anyway 12.58.55 # Good morning, folks. 12.59.13 # ...grouping functions 13.00.14 # I ran a battery test yesterday, tracking the percent remaining at 15 minute intervals. Would the results of that be useful to anyone? 13.00.35 # cool! 13.01.10 # did you get ~16hrs Febs? 13.01.41 # it'd be better to track the voltage at 15min intervals wouldn't it? 13.01.42 # No, running mostly --alt-preset standard MP3, I got about 10 hours and 45 minutes. 13.02.36 # what player do you have? 13.02.41 # H120 13.04.15 # Coldtoast: as to tracking voltage, that was my question, actually. What does the WPS battery % relate to right now, if anything? Is that a useful measurement? 13.04.42 # Febs: it uses a battery voltage => percentage table 13.05.15 # OK, so the percentage measure can be translated to a battery voltage. 13.05.39 # yes, but without precision 13.05.50 # the data is still useful 13.06.36 # Febs, I think the actual values from the adc would be more useful 13.07.22 # The results were similar to the charts that rasher has posted in the WPS. The battery decline was more or less linear over the first 9+ hours, and then dropped quickly in the last hour. 13.07.31 # WPS=wiki 13.07.42 # Febs: Which build did you use? 13.07.54 # Markun: 0622-1449 13.09.13 # Is there a way for me as an end-user to measure the values from the adc? Is this what the battery voltage display under the debug menu shows? 13.09.15 # I might test 0623-1041 13.09.26 # ok, because I changed the voltage -> percentage table and was hoping it would be more linear now 13.09.27 # bleedign edge build 13.10.03 # But the comit was before your build, so I guess it doesn't work so well. 13.10.38 # 10hrs 45mins seems low 13.11.04 # a fair comparison would play the exact same songs on the iriver fw 13.11.09 # be cool if eventually it gets close to 16hrs 13.11.24 # I don't think the standard fw manages that 13.11.36 # it does actually 13.11.43 # mine does, nayway 13.11.46 # Febs: I based thevalues on the measurements by rasher: http://130.89.160.166/rockbox/voltages.png 13.11.46 # anyway 13.12.04 # I got just under 16hrs when I did a test 13.12.09 # Coldtoast: no matter what songs/codecs you play? 13.12.16 # seems unlikely 13.12.27 # it was all mp3 with a complete mix of bitrates and vbr/cbr 13.12.54 # on a h140 13.12.59 Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.13.00 # B4dger, I agree, that's why I said I wanted to do a more controlled test. I had the player on shuffle, which may have affected battery life, and also had EQ on. 13.13.15 # EQ? 13.13.36 # Bass = 6 Treble = 4 13.13.39 # fucking hell. if i ever meet a game developer who thinks that a lens flare was a good idea when you're supposed to be looking around in the first person, i'm going to hit them and then carefully explain to them why our eyes don't cause lens flares 13.13.46 # ah 13.14.04 # ashridah: maybe you have bionic eyes in the game? heh 13.14.13 # cameras instead of eyeballs 13.14.26 # It was sort of an ad hoc test. Not designed to be very scientific. 13.15.15 # Coldtoast: well, that's remotely possible in serious sam, since the dude has an embedded computer in his head, but not in zelda 13.15.24 # haha 13.16.10 # Febs: I don't think shuffle nor the EQ affects battery usage in a significant way 13.16.25 # Good to know. 13.17.10 # where can I get the 1bit Rockbox logo from? 13.17.32 # the one that flashes quickly onscreen when you boot the h140 13.18.22 # lemme see... 13.19.30 # http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/rockbox160bw.bmp 13.19.39 # cheers B4gder 13.20.21 # I put a PNG version there too 13.20.38 # ok 13.23.04 # whythe png? 13.23.14 # easier to browse with firefox 13.23.38 # oh yeah 13.25.25 # it'd be cool if you could use masks in .wps so you could have windows in your images for text 13.25.35 # anyway 13.25.38 Quit tvelocity ("Leaving") 13.27.59 # or being able to set up textboxes, actually. anyway. think I'll go eat 13.28.23 Quit ghostiger (Remote closed the connection) 13.33.15 Join ghostiger [0] (~ghostiger@228eb8c830c57384.session.tor) 13.35.52 Join Sucka [0] (~NNSCRIPT@host217-42-252-124.range217-42.btcentralplus.com) 13.39.52 Join webguest48 [0] (~3dff30ad@labb.contactor.se) 13.40.01 # hello 13.40.06 # hello everyone.. 13.40.08 # 'ello 13.40.19 # I'm korean iriver user... 13.40.40 # welcome 13.40.42 # I want play rockbox.. 13.40.46 # B4gder.. 13.41.15 # My ihp120 firmware patched.. but don't play rockbox.. 13.41.40 # and you installed a daily build? 13.41.51 # the patch/flash only makes the bootloader 13.41.53 # what's daily build? 13.42.20 # I'm did easy way patched.. 13.42.36 # then you have the bootloader 13.42.50 # bootloader.bin? 13.42.57 # that file copy root folder? 13.43.07 # no 13.43.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.43.25 # what's doing?.. please help me.. 13.44.08 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/QuickStart#Installing_Rockbox 13.44.32 # the hex file is the bootloader 13.44.43 # you then need rockbox 13.45.23 # It's too hard.. 13.45.30 # don't understand.. 13.45.39 # then I don't know what to say 13.46.03 # must patch bootloader? 13.46.12 # what did you do so far? 13.46.31 # I'm doing now.. 13.47.03 # webguest48: step 1: install bootloader (so the .hex file stuff) 13.47.14 # webguest48: step 2: extract this zip file to the iriver drive: http://www.rockbox.org/daily/h100/rockbox-h100-20050623.zip 13.47.27 # webguest48: step 3: reboot the iriver, it should boot into rockbox 13.48.01 # Battery test results here: http://66.116.254.167/Febs/Bat_test_050622-1449.htm 13.48.25 # I don't understand bootloader? 13.48.49 # bootloader install what's doing? 13.48.57 # webguest48: did you upgade to the patched hex file? do you see some rockbox text when you start your iriver? 13.49.09 # yes 13.49.15 # then you have the bootloader installed 13.49.15 # then do step 2 and 3 13.49.28 # fwpatcher ihp_120.hex patched.. 13.49.32 # ok 13.49.35 # copy ihp_120.hex root folder 13.49.44 # step 2: extract this zip file to the iriver drive: http://www.rockbox.org/daily/h100/rockbox-h100-20050623.zip 13.49.48 # step 3: reboot the iriver, it should boot into rockbox 13.49.50 # that 13.50.22 # i doning dowaloading 20050623.zip 13.50.25 # hm... webguest48: did you make "firmware upgrade" with iriver firmware of the patched ihp_120.hex ? 13.50.39 # unzip 20050623.zip.. 13.51.00 # fwpatcher pathced ihp_120.hex 13.51.12 # thed patched file copy iriver root folder.. 13.51.23 # then did firmware upgrade ? 13.51.25 # then iriver menu firmware upgrade.. 13.51.29 # ok 13.51.32 # reboot 13.51.42 # hold record button.. 13.51.52 # ok, then just unzip this file 13.51.57 # don't hold record button 13.52.06 # unzip? 13.52.10 # this will start iriver fw 13.52.11 # what's file unzip? 13.52.28 # do you have program which can open .zip files ? 13.52.37 # alzip 13.52.48 # hex file unzip? 13.53.15 # no no no 13.53.15 # open this .zip file 13.53.23 # yes.. 13.53.26 # and "extract" it to the root folder of your iriver 13.53.32 # yes.. 13.53.48 # after this 13.53.55 # check the "safely remove hardware" 13.54.01 # yes 13.54.17 # then? 13.54.24 # and turn off and then turn on the iriver 13.54.34 # yes.. 13.54.46 # firmward upgrade? 13.54.59 # hehe 13.55.02 # no 13.55.06 # you already did that 13.55.13 # and if you've done everything as you should be, your iriver will be "rockboxed" 13.55.13 # no 13.55.58 Join RotAtoR [0] (~e@dhcp54-47.calvin.edu) 13.56.17 # only unzip connected iriver 13.56.30 # root folder unzip .zip 13.56.50 # ok... listen to me carefully 13.56.52 # root folder has rockbox 13.56.56 # yes... 13.57.18 # so, if your iriver is letter X: in my computer/explorer/etc 13.57.27 # do you have X:\.rockbox directory ? 13.57.35 # yes 13.57.39 # and also, do you have X:\rockbox.iriver 13.57.55 # yes 13.58.00 # ok 13.58.17 # did you make "firmware upgrade" with PATCHED ihp_120.hex ? 13.58.39 # yes 13.58.45 # bgr i'm success 13.58.46 # ok 13.58.46 # so 13.58.52 # good 13.59.06 # congrats 13.59.16 # rock box.. 13.59.24 # don't show korean? 13.59.35 # nope 13.59.42 # no, it doesn't yet 13.59.46 # but we will appreciate your patch! 13.59.52 # :))))) 14.00.07 # * B4gder never misses a chance to point that out ;-) 14.00.07 # rockbox game file where's it? 14.00.07 # webguest48: rockbox needs unicode support to show korean 14.00.31 # when unicode support? 14.00.35 # but someone (iirc markun) is working on it 14.00.38 # fuck... 14.00.43 # um.. 14.00.48 # there are no deadlines in open source ... 14.00.50 # tomas@athlon dev # uptime 14.00.51 # 14:00:53 up 1 day, 5:56, 3 users, load average: 13.91, 3.77, 2.02 14.00.52 # at least in rockbox :) 14.00.55 # Bgr.. 14.01.04 # 13.91 :| 14.01.07 # t0mas: happy birthday ;) 14.01.10 # emule game file what's game file? 14.01.20 # I didn't even know load can be 13.91 14.01.23 # what do you mean ? 14.01.30 # see the load average... 14.01.32 # whaers rockbox game file? 14.01.38 # * Bgr doesn't know wtf these values mean ... 14.01.52 # B4gder: tell him, pls 14.01.52 # well... < 1 is normal 14.01.53 # where's rockbox game rom file? 14.02.02 # how to start 14.02.11 # you have to get .gb roms on your own 14.02.14 # I give up 14.02.14 # i'm not have rockbox game file.. 14.02.15 # t0mas: clearly you've never administrated a busy sendmail server :) 14.02.31 # where is Rockbox game file.. 14.02.41 # webguest48 which game ? 14.02.51 # rockbox has not ONE game 14.02.51 # many.. 14.02.56 # I want many gmae. 14.03.00 # do you mean GameBoy emulation ? 14.03.02 # ashridah: this is a workstation 14.03.14 # and for normal workstation... doing nothing... 13.91 is a bit high 14.03.22 # yes 14.03.46 # t0mas, ashridah: btw what does load average value of 13.1 (for example) mean 14.04.01 # Bgr: to much... I don't know how it's calculated 14.04.24 # but I remember our webserver at the office beiing dossed... got to load 6.something 14.04.30 # and that was to much for it :) 14.04.35 # hold rockbox 14.04.50 # does this have anything with bogoMIPS... 14.04.56 # then Resume? Play = yes Any other = no 14.05.02 # Bgr: no 14.05.06 # webguest48: you must find .gb rom files on your own 14.05.20 # load is the number of processes in the run queue 14.05.23 # B4gder: i mean more bogoMIPS, more max load average values 14.05.25 # gb rom click game start? 14.05.31 # tes 14.05.33 # *yes 14.05.40 # I under stand.. 14.05.53 # thank everyone.. 14.05.57 # np 14.06.03 # t0mas: the first value for load average uptime gives is only for the last minute 14.06.12 # but next time ... try to read documentation first ........ 14.06.19 # must Korean don't understand this doing.... 14.06.33 # documentaion only english... 14.06.57 # webguest48: feel free to write a translation! 14.07.04 # most my friend have iriver-h340 and H10 14.07.04 # we're talking in engl here too ... 14.07.23 # hey webguest48 14.07.28 # H10 is probably a no-no for rockbox ... in the near future at least 14.07.42 # yes.. 14.07.42 # is the ipod VERY populr in Korea? 14.07.42 # but H3x0 is near 14.07.43 # no.. 14.07.59 # but the iriver is? 14.08.03 # I would assume korean brands are popular in korea 14.08.06 # wee,, not THE iriver. ANY iriver 14.08.16 # Lynx_: I know 14.08.24 # it was going mad on hald (hotplugging) 14.08.33 # most korean use iriver and cowon 14.08.40 # cool 14.08.50 # iriver & iaudio ... 14.08.52 # :) 14.08.53 # ipod have not radio.. 14.09.07 # no ogg 14.09.10 # they have ... as an accessory 14.09.37 # any many korean listen to music handphone.. 14.09.42 # I'd liek to borrow an ipod for a day 14.09.53 # most korean handphone have mp3 14.10.00 # and have mp4 k3g 14.10.43 # I want to send korean mp3 player this room person.. 14.11.12 # wonder what Kim Jong Il listens to 14.11.14 # Coldtoast probably has one already 14.11.33 # bgr 14.11.37 # why would you think that? 14.11.39 # i found gb rom.. 14.11.58 # many people don't know korean mp3 player.. 14.12.01 # * t0mas has used an ipod once... 14.12.04 # I want to have a play with the interface. never touched an ipod 14.12.12 # it's usefull... the weel thing is nice 14.12.13 # did you inhale t0mas? 14.12.22 # hm? 14.12.33 # heh. sorry. joke 14.12.43 # make folder gbrom folder iriver .. 14.12.45 # the wheel is quite good, but i always end up going past songs i want to listen to on my friends' ipods 14.12.47 # then click gbrom? 14.12.52 # play game? 14.12.54 # remember Clinton saying "I once smoked marijuanah but I didn't inhale"? 14.12.55 # although its better than the iriver for going through large lists 14.13.14 # I like Booker - T 14.13.26 # I watching WWE 14.13.39 # I'm 15 years old.. 14.13.57 # Coldtoast: I'm from the netherlands ;-) 14.14.04 # t0mas.. 14.14.12 # play gbrom... 14.14.14 # hahaha t0mas :))) 14.14.16 # Sucka: well... rockbox scrolling is faster... and I found it more usefull 14.14.20 # the country of freedom :P 14.14.23 # LOL 14.14.28 # make gbrom folder then click gbrom file? 14.14.41 # half of the world has some weird picture from the netherlands... 14.14.45 # webguest48: yes 14.14.56 # t0mas at least it's legal 14.15.20 # i want to show korean.. 14.15.21 # it is... that's why it's no big deal here 14.15.22 # um.. 14.15.30 Quit yyz (Connection timed out) 14.15.31 # and it's only legal if you're > 18 14.16.20 # i bet that netherlands are given as an example in many countries from people, smoking maryj... 14.16.28 # yes 14.16.35 # t0mas: the same as alcochole 14.16.53 # Bgr.. 14.16.56 # *alochol 14.16.59 # webguest48? what ? 14.17.02 # but if you compare this to germany... we have less young people on weed... 14.17.15 # i can't help you more 14.17.15 # rockbox play mame? 14.17.18 # because it's legal here... it's sold in normal shops... wich are controlled by the gouvernment 14.17.28 # t0mas: i'm sure 14.17.34 # t0mas: they just get their's in the netherlands ;) 14.17.39 # and because of that it's not sold by illegal street people 14.18.02 # and you're sure what does it contain 14.18.11 # and we have gay marriage... wich the US still don't have... weirdos 14.18.13 # gameboy = family ? 14.18.31 # webguest48? 14.18.38 # Bgr: yes, and for harddrugs (illegal) there are still checkpoints... to test pills... 14.18.49 # gameboy rom = mame rom? 14.18.50 # gameboy is a game console 14.19.08 # i don't get what do you mean 14.19.34 # what's the default rockbox font? 14.19.34 # t0mas : yes, holding down play for page scroll was revealed to me on the forums and its the best by far ;) 14.19.47 # rockbox play rom.. only gameboy rom? 14.19.53 # yes 14.20.06 # and the plug-in games 14.20.20 # gameboy & gameboy color (obviously without colors) 14.21.19 Quit ashridah (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.23.27 # t0mas do you mean that you can test haddrugs ? 14.24.03 # yes 14.24.25 # haha 14.24.29 # if you buy them somewhere (illegal) then you can bring them to a legal coffeshop or mobile testing center (police) and they'll check them for you... 14.24.33 # without arresting you 14.24.35 # <]RowaN[> crossfade on trackskip worked for me today.. i was sat on the tube riding to work and suddenly i was like "whoa dude" (thats how i speak in my head) coz it actually crossfaded 14.25.00 # this started because some people sold bad pills... wich killed party people 14.25.12 # aha 14.25.21 # this is a good idea 14.26.02 # yes... and it makes arresting the people selling harddrugs easier... 14.26.13 # i'm playing now 1943.. 14.26.21 # hm 14.26.25 # because the police keeps track of everything they check, and where they do it 14.26.25 # thanks everyone.... 14.26.47 # hm maybe that's the main reason 14.27.11 # might be ;) 14.27.32 # still a good idea though 14.27.56 # amiconn: how's work going on the grfx lib? 14.27.57 # yes 14.28.20 # yes... and the police has more time to deal with real criminals (selling harddrugs).. because they don't need to run after school kids smoking 1 weed every few weeks 14.28.56 # and... most kids don't think smoking weed is cool... because everybody can just buy it... so not much people at my school use it 14.29.54 # yes, the fact that it's illegal makes more people to want try it 14.30.59 # but there are some problems still... with kids < 16 drinking alcohol... 14.31.34 # * t0mas was on a party last week... saw some girls aged about 14 running around and drinking way to much... 14.31.59 # it was in the papers too... a few weeks ago... lots of young people drink to much in weekends 14.32.57 # t0mas: this doesn't surprise me 14.33.09 # don't listen game sound.. 14.33.14 # i've seen 12old (or less) drinking ... 14.33.19 # webguest48: no, there's no sound 14.33.23 # bah you should see the UK then :p 14.33.35 # well... that's seen as a serious problem here 14.33.47 # rockbox game is no sound? 14.33.58 # but I guess some people will come up with a right solution (< 2% alcohol is ok for 12 y/o or something like that) 14.34.38 # Bgr.. 14.34.49 # Rockbox game is no sound? 14.35.06 # webguest48: what game? there are more games... 14.35.07 # not just 1 14.35.18 # boomberman 14.35.24 # gameboy rom? 14.35.35 # no sound in rockboy 14.35.39 Join tvelocity [0] (~tony@ipa34.1.tellas.gr) 14.35.40 # for now at least 14.36.01 # hmz... there is a version with sound isn't it? 14.36.03 # yes.. 14.36.08 # (i've heard sloppy mario sounds) 14.36.14 # t0mas: there was sound before we got the music playback 14.37.28 # umm 14.38.06 # now play supermario 1.. 14.38.15 # but don't listen game sound.. 14.38.41 # no webguest48, it's disabled 14.39.07 # play button only a? 14.39.10 # not b? 14.39.33 # supermario game has b button turbo speed.. 14.39.47 # play = A 14.39.48 # stop = B 14.39.53 # A-B = menu 14.39.57 # Rec = start 14.40.19 # thank you. 14.40.39 Join DaKi][er [0] (~dakiller@dialup-208.41.220.203.acc03-albe-wgl.comindico.com.au) 14.40.49 # see you againg.. 14.40.52 # good bye. 14.41.06 # bye webguest48 14.41.06 Quit webguest48 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 14.41.14 # ;D 14.41.26 # hey. what font is the rockbox default? any idea? 14.41.32 # rockbox_default? 14.41.37 # yep 14.41.43 # that's the default fond ;) 14.41.46 # what font is it 14.41.48 # *font 14.41.57 # so it's one custom made? 14.42.01 # I guess 14.42.06 # ok 14.42.44 # clR6x8.bdf 14.42.47 # want to design an image WPS but mock it up in PS so if I had the rockbox font as a ttf or bitmap font, that'd be cool 14.43.21 # ghehe 14.43.26 # * t0mas is redesigning his wps too 14.44.03 # hmm 14.44.08 Nick as is now known as thegeek (na@ti521110a080-1839.bb.online.no) 14.44.15 # problem is that it is hard to place text 14.44.16 # <]RowaN[> i took some cool gfx from mario world for my wps.. clouds, hills, and palm trees =] 14.44.21 # <]RowaN[> mario land, even 14.44.26 # we should have a pixel placement for text too 14.44.49 # I agree 14.44.55 # -a 14.45.22 # yes I agree 14.45.31 # ghehe 14.45.33 # <]RowaN[> pixel placement would still have problems when you change to font of a different height tho? 14.45.36 # even better... I have it :P 14.45.58 # <]RowaN[> pick a font and stick to it i say =p 14.46.00 # ]RowaN[: the place where it is placed is defined with the x and y coordinate of the left upper corner of the string 14.46.34 # it's not hard to add extra text... I've just added some lcd_puts(); calls to my wps code 14.46.39 # to place text where I want it to be 14.46.49 # <]RowaN[> yeah it would be good just to indent/center text and not have it scroll over gfx at the sides (walls) of the wps 14.47.02 # make text display xor 14.47.04 # <]RowaN[> start coord, end coord 14.47.19 # that way, you can still read text if it goes over gfx 14.47.25 # Coldtoast: it is 14.47.29 # but scrolling lines are a problem 14.47.30 # oh! 14.47.36 # ok. hadn't tested that 14.47.43 Quit Febs ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.4/20050511]") 14.47.56 # Linus was thinking about something with margins to scrolling text 14.48.02 # to make some sort of scrolling "box" 14.48.42 # yeah. Even for non-scrolling text you'd need it tho 14.48.54 # if you decide to not use %s you still want those margins 14.49.49 # yeps 14.50.08 # I wish there was a way to use CVS easily over the web 14.50.18 # it's a PITA being stuck behind a firewall all day 14.50.32 # tunnel tunnel tunnel! ;-) 14.50.33 # hm? 14.50.43 # there is a web cvs thing for rockbox 14.51.25 # oh really ? I must have missed that. soemwhere on www.rockbox.org I assume ? 14.51.43 # www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/ 14.52.20 # ah yes - but checking out with that thing will be slow as - I'd have to get each file one by one! 14.52.41 # then get the source zip files? 14.53.02 # oh wait 14.53.07 # that's only daily 14.54.09 # B4gder? can that be added to the bleeding edge thing? 14.54.11 # a source zip? 14.54.24 # sure could 14.54.39 Join edx [0] (edx@p54A8FB8F.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.54.55 # that would be awesome 14.55.04 # is the website in cvs? 14.55.13 # t0mas: most of it 14.56.26 # and it's php? or cgi? 14.56.45 # static html and cgi 14.57.06 # KISS :) 14.57.16 # and of course quite a lot of scripts 14.57.22 # for the builds etc 15.01.04 # http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-source/rockbox-bleeding.tar.gz 15.01.20 # 2.5MB 15.01.37 # TYVM 15.01.47 # btw, why don't you use .bz2 ? 15.01.56 # no reason really 15.02.11 # smaller files :) 15.02.31 # not gonna save much on a 2.5MB file really 15.03.46 # this source package will be update like the other bleeding edge builds now 15.03.59 # cool - I'll keep the link handy then 15.04.07 # Bgr: i wrote a shell script to download the daily build and as part of that converts to .bz2 file 15.07.04 # B4gder : error in the source link on the build page 15.07.12 # http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-source/rockbox-bleeeing.tar.gz 15.07.37 # bleeding.tar.gz 15.07.42 # too many "e"s 15.07.51 Quit GodEater ("CGI:IRC") 15.08.28 Join GodEater [0] (~c2cbc9d8@labb.contactor.se) 15.10.50 # thanks, fixed 15.16.15 Join ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-122-127.VIC.netspace.net.au) 15.19.33 Join crazylee [0] (~3dff30ad@labb.contactor.se) 15.19.39 # Hi.. 15.19.49 # Holla If ya hear me? 15.19.58 # * B4gder reads 15.20.04 # Bgr: if you want it (will need some mods for bleeding edge builds) http://www.wiard.net/rock.daily 15.20.24 # kenshin 15.20.25 # hm 15.20.32 # hi 15.20.35 # everyone.. 15.20.53 # * kenshin has to go to work (grrrr) 15.20.58 # Rockbox Emule not support Radio for Iriver? 15.21.16 # crazylee: not yet 15.21.23 # the iriver port is no-where near done 15.21.26 # emule? 15.21.36 # Rockbox.. 15.21.50 # My ihp-120 patched Rockbox.. 15.22.00 # Rockbox not support Fm Radio? 15.22.15 # 10x, kenshin 15.22.17 # crazylee Rockbox Emule not support Radio for Iriver? 15.22.17 # ashridah crazylee: not yet 15.22.34 # %u3160%u3160 15.22.42 # ah..... 15.22.55 # * ashridah really should get xchat using unicode someday :) 15.23.23 # When Rockbox support radio? 15.24.09 # radio is already supported by rockbox 15.24.18 # When its done I guess :P Best to just use normal firmware when you want to listen to the radio till someone adds support for the iRiver 15.24.30 # bobTHC, thats only on Archos though isn't it? 15.24.32 # but the iriver port of radio is not complete... 15.25.38 # crazylee: feel free to help out :) 15.25.48 # right...but dont confuse rockbox and the iriver port of rockbox 15.27.36 # i imagine rockbox itself will be a work in progress to some extent on all platforms ;) 15.27.59 # heh. I was actually thinking of selling my h140 til a week ago 15.28.05 # me too ashridah... :) 15.28.24 # the iriver port is usable enough now tho that Iwon't 15.28.48 # I wouldn't say I'd have sold mine, but I can say that since finding out about rockbox I probably won't need to buy a newer player for some time. 15.28.51 # usable dont mean stable ;) 15.28.55 # there wouldn't be much value in my selling mine. finding another player that supports ogg would cost me more than it's worth now 15.29.23 # ashridah, thats the reason I choose the iriver over most players to begin with. ogg support :) 15.29.28 # bobTHC: I'venot had a crash for about 3 days. As I said, fo rme, it;s usable enough to keep the player 15.29.33 # although I've been thinking of getting a tiny flash player for when I go running. 15.30.08 # I've not had rockbox crash on me yet. Only problem is certain mp3 podcasts play like the chipmunks, which I'm assuming is because they're not record at 44KHz? 15.30.11 # I was going to sell it and just use my PDA 15.30.30 # i'm totally agree with u but stable is another step above 15.30.57 # CoCoLUS, What pda do you have? I've got a tungsten C which is great but fails misserably for audio, not even stereo :( 15.31.07 # me? 15.31.16 # Coldtoast, even :) 15.31.17 # Dell Axim x50v 15.31.31 # damn tab completion and my inability to use it :P 15.31.56 # the x50v is a pretty amazing device 15.32.12 # I've never heard of it, I'll go google in a bit :) 15.32.25 # the res of teh screen is ridiculous. something like 192DPI 15.33.00 # http://pocketpcfaq.com/reviews/efocus2005/index.htm 15.33.03 # check those vids out 15.33.07 # see it in action 15.33.19 # Dell Axim x50v is good but id u have a electric socket near it ;) 15.33.45 # 600Mhz xscale 15.33.48 # gosh 15.34.03 # well, with the most intensive thing srunning; Wifi, bluetooth, etc, you'll still get over 2hrs 15.34.07 # of constant use 15.34.08 # I got a tungsten after my old psion 3a bit the dust. 15.34.31 # Although I only use it for text editing and playing adventure games/reading ebooks. 15.34.39 # Does its job in that sense great :) 15.34.54 # you can buy extended batteries for them too. But yeah. you're not going to get days of usage. heh 15.34.56 # msg logbot seen rasher 15.34.59 # Oops 15.35.23 # Hmm.... 15.35.37 # opa 15.35.39 # :) 15.35.49 # I use mine a bit for watching movies at work 15.36.06 # I believe the heavy cgi::irc usage ruins logbot's seen capabilities 15.36.55 # It worked... 15.37.03 # I just forgot the leading slash 15.37.04 # when I use my extended battery my x50v lasts more than 2 hours with full wifi/video/cpu 15.37.34 # take notice of both "my"'s ;) 15.37.39 # did you consider the HP hx4700 at all whenyou were buying thegeek? 15.38.16 # yes 15.38.17 # 2 hours battery runtime for a mobile device is ... nothing, imho 15.38.23 # indeed 15.38.25 # but it's not true 15.38.28 # I get way more 15.38.31 # I can use it all day long 15.38.33 # and then some 15.38.34 # with no trouble 15.38.50 # It's usually just at 50% when I get home 15.38.52 # why'd you pick the Axim? 15.38.56 # price 15.39.01 # ah yeah 15.39.04 # ;) 15.39.11 # it's more than expensive enough 15.39.15 # heh 15.39.21 # dont want to pay any HP premium 15.39.27 # the Axim's a far nicer looking device too I reckon 15.39.30 # the screen on the hp is not that much better 15.39.33 Join yyz [0] (~yyz@modem-2001.lynx.dialup.pol.co.uk) 15.39.34 # and it looks like shit 15.39.34 # mhm 15.39.39 # the x50v feels REALLY nice in teh hand 15.39.44 # indeed:) 15.42.53 # B4gder: I think I should put the struct scrollinfo in lcd.h. Although it is used in the driver only, there are already 3 drivers defining it. 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Know anything about the Gmini port? 16.21.48 # 64 is not enough for u ? 16.22.03 # amiconn is her? 16.22.04 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GminiPort 16.22.05 # i'm kidding what's up 16.22.16 Quit yyz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.22.48 # it seems to be here, indeed RockboxerHappy 16.22.55 Nick Sucka is now known as Sucka`away (~NNSCRIPT@host217-42-252-124.range217-42.btcentralplus.com) 16.23.02 # amiconn: have you few seconds for me please? :-) 16.23.11 # wtf... 16.23.23 # I just burned my feet when I climbed out of the water... 16.23.34 # huuuuu 16.23.52 # mrrrrf! 16.24.00 Join Febs [0] (~chatzilla@64-190-36-240.client.cypresscom.net) 16.24.21 # amiconn: i read the logs daily and i read fex days ago, you working in grayscale and graphical stuff 16.24.28 # *few 16.24.36 # it's right? 16.26.23 Quit webguest31 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 16.26.46 # amiconn: ? 16.27.20 # are you here please 16.27.35 # Yeah, I'm working on gfx, more or less 16.27.54 # round up ure ideas and ask the question... 16.29.08 # i'm very happy like my nickname said but the graphical aspect alone that don't progress a lot 16.29.47 # WPS with bitmap is not enough for u ? 16.29.54 # and i read that amiconn alone work on it :( i read a lots about your eficient amiconn ;) 16.30.14 # bob: yes of course WPS it's so good now 16.30.18 Quit Godeater ("CGI:IRC") 16.30.26 # thanks to t0mas, Linus..... 16.30.42 Join Godeater [0] (~c2cbc9d1@labb.contactor.se) 16.30.51 # I'm not that efficient atm :( I don't get why I can't #include "file.h" within lcd.h, but it works from other headers 16.30.59 # WPS with BMP support seems like a heck of a lot of progress - what more do you want ?!?! 16.31.03 # That is, it works for the targets, but not for sims 16.31.09 # a ok 16.31.47 # i'm very happy about your all works it's very good from you 16.32.17 # unfortunatly i can't work in garphicals API :( 16.32.23 # i can't help 16.32.43 # but i'm hope a lot about you amiconn :) 16.33.05 # The gfx api itself won't change anything visible 16.33.22 # Switching to 4-grey of course will change a bit 16.33.30 # :P 16.33.50 # But the api will be done first 16.34.05 # ...as a preparation for more different gfx formats 16.34.11 # Thinking H3x0 here 16.34.18 # about the remote control, it's depend of them no? 16.34.30 # wooh H3XX like Bagder 16.34.36 # :) 16.35.55 # the remote control it's alone don't working, but for all it's fine i'm use daily rockbox 16.36.09 # with my H140 16.37.25 # if u have ideas, feel free to propose them here, but plz don't say "what don't progress a lot" or thing like "and for this why it's not working...", in one word try to be constructive, thx 16.37.51 # scuse me my english it's very limited 16.37.59 # i'm french 16.38.06 Nick Bgr is now known as Bger (~Bager@83.222.160.88) 16.38.10 # i'm too 16.38.14 # :) 16.38.20 # I'm not native english either 16.38.30 # ...german 16.38.37 # i don't want said that Rockbox don't work 16.38.43 # i love it 16.39.00 # and i love the the GPL projects 16.39.23 # Okay, seems I didn't break the driver with my rearrangement :) Now, next one... 16.39.36 # :) 16.39.51 Nick Bger is now known as Bgr (~Bager@83.222.160.88) 16.40.28 # bob: je ne veux pas critiquer ce projet, au contraire. 16.40.44 # scuse for this french words 16.41.42 # god 16.41.47 # i don't want poluated this chanel 16.41.47 # its so hot x.x 16.41.51 Nick Bgr is now known as Bger (~Bager@83.222.160.88) 16.42.02 Quit ]RowaN[ (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.42.19 # Nah, it's not that hot, at least not here 16.42.24 # its like what 16.42.25 # 30 °C 16.42.27 # 30 degrees 16.42.33 # and not getting better tomorrow 16.42.38 # same here 16.42.39 # * HCl goes to make a cool footbath. 16.42.58 # If it's above 36 °C *then* I'd call it hot 16.43.10 # amiconn: good luck for your works and we hope in you for the graphicals things ;) 16.43.11 # It's warm 16.43.21 # 35°C here in paris 16.43.29 # by all 16.43.34 Quit RockboxerHappy ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 16.43.36 # RockboxerHappy: The gfx api should basically allow for faster and more flexible graphics 16.43.43 # oops 16.43.44 # :( 16.43.58 Quit RotAtoR (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.44.04 Join RotAtoR [0] (~e@dhcp54-47.calvin.edu) 16.44.53 # amiconn: the "hot" feeling depends much on air's humidity 16.45.05 # yeah, right 16.45.25 # so you can't just say: it's 36 °C, so it's hot 16.47.21 # btw, amiconn, any docs for learning m68k asm ? 16.47.54 # or you'll point me to coldfire user manual 16.48.33 # If you've already coded in asm, the coldfire manuals should be sufficient 16.48.53 # i have bare idea of x86 16.48.59 # That's what I used, but then I already did some other asm coding 16.49.00 # asm 16.49.26 # Z80, a tiny bit of x86 (never really understood it), and of course SH1 16.49.48 # x86 is fugly 16.49.55 # i wouldn't call it just "some other asm coding" ... 16.51.05 # Of course I did have have a quick look at m68k asm before, because I (still) have an Amiga, but did not yet code m68k before rockbox 16.51.38 # ;) 16.51.44 # i've never touched an Amiga 16.52.09 # and more ... i've never seen such "animal" 16.54.18 # mrf 16.54.20 # bit better 16.55.45 # HCl: how's headache ? 16.58.04 # Does a .wps file have to be saved in cr/lf format, or will just lf delimited work ? 16.59.02 # Both variants should work 17.00.03 # thanks 17.00.55 Join Strath [0] (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a230.wi.tds.net) 17.03.29 # Bger: gone 17.03.55 # tired and overheated though 17.03.58 # need to catch up on sleep 17.04.02 # cold shower helped tons 17.04.20 Join Jleagle [0] (Owner@spr2-cosh3-5-0-cust23.cosh.broadband.ntl.com) 17.04.22 # i guess its mostly the heat getting to me 17.04.36 # just a sec ago when i was working with markun i felt like falling asleep, but cold shower helped tons 17.05.00 # that's better anyway 17.05.25 Quit Jleagle (Client Quit) 17.07.30 # * HCl goes to nap while he still can. 17.09.36 Join bipak_ [0] (~bip@p50884178.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.09.39 Quit StrathAFK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.12.39 # HCl: Not falling asleep because of me I hope.. ;-) 17.13.55 # Sucka`away? 17.14.11 Join spiralout [0] (~keep_goin@p54B39F52.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.22.23 Join StrathAFK [0] (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a230.wi.tds.net) 17.25.27 Quit DaKi][er () 17.27.53 Join [1]Chamois [0] (~Chamois@champigny-5-82-226-182-23.fbx.proxad.net) 17.32.04 # markun: nope 17.36.23 Quit Chamois (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 17.36.23 Nick [1]Chamois is now known as Chamois (~Chamois@champigny-5-82-226-182-23.fbx.proxad.net) 17.37.48 # HCl? weet jij hoe je zo'n ID2P ding toevoegt? dus voor een nieuwe menu optie? 17.38.13 # oh.. woops... translation: "Do you know how to add an ID2P string, for a new menu item?" 17.41.05 Quit Strath (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.43.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.49.45 # found it :) 17.49.56 # added an option to the context menu to shuffle the playlist 17.50.14 # don't know where I read that idea... but I think it's usefull to be able to shuffle the list :) 17.52.04 # What should that be good for? 17.52.18 # Isn't rockbox shuffle good enough for you? ;) 17.53.04 # thats a nice feature, so you can edit the list after shuffling 17.53.28 # Hmm, seems I still don't understand 17.53.36 # You can always edit the list 17.53.57 # ...and you can shuffle the list and sort it again 17.54.03 # amiconn: I don't want the always shuffeling rockbox does... 17.54.07 # ...without a new option 17.54.09 # I want the winamp like option... 17.54.16 # Hum? 17.54.16 # press a button and it shuffles the list for me 17.54.26 # that's the thing I added... 17.54.52 # You can switch shuffle on & off in the menu. When playback is stopped, this shuffles & unshuffles the current list 17.55.01 # and now I'm playing with it, I have something else: does anybody like a "clear playlist" option in the context menu? 17.55.33 # if you have some albums and what the list shuffled to mix the artists, you can shuffle the list and move single songs, for example if several songs of one artist come one after another by chance 17.56.02 # Lynx_: Yes, you can do that, with current cvs, without any additional option 17.56.20 # amiconn: but then I "enable" shuffle... and I have it on all day 17.56.41 # I don't like that... I want to press a "Shuffle now" button 17.57.13 # but any comments on the "Clear playlist" option in the contextmenu? 17.57.36 # hi...i have still problems with moveing files on rockbock ...i found out that it only works in the same directory level ...but how can i move a folder or something one folder level higher?? 17.58.31 Quit yyz- (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 17.58.45 Quit crazylee ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 17.59.35 # rockbock means rockbox :-D 18.00.47 # t0mas: Why? The old list is cleared automatically if you play something new 18.01.21 # amiconn: hm... so play a new song... and then start adding others 18.01.24 # hey. could you make it so you can choose which side the status bar is aligned to? 18.01.26 # that's the way to do it? 18.02.19 # Yes, but it always adds the whole dir. You can't start a fresh playlist with a single song (unless you have a single track in that dir) 18.02.35 # ok, so a clear option might be usefull? 18.03.12 # man! I suggested EXACTLY THIS yesterday 18.03.17 # add only this thing to a new playlist-option would be useful 18.03.19 # and Linus said he thought it was silly 18.03.37 # I think the same... 18.03.41 # heh 18.03.54 # good to see somebody else would use it 18.04.11 # Hmm. Who wants to listen to a single song only? 18.04.16 # I don't 18.04.22 # but sometimes I want to add just 1 song 18.04.27 # not all songs in a dir... 18.04.28 # that's not why you'd want it 18.04.40 # so I want to clear the playlist... and then start adding single songs 18.04.46 # Maybe that's me though, I usually listen to whole albums, or I shuffle a larger subtree of the player 18.04.57 # you'd use it so you can clear the whole palylist (as the whole dir is added auto when you select a file) and build a playlist from scratch 18.05.06 # not for single songs 18.05.14 # me too... but today I wanted to listen to a few songs from 1 band, a few from another... like that 18.05.15 # no but when you want to create a new playlist than do you want to start with only one song and not with the whole album 18.05.22 # yeah 18.05.33 # so a clear option might be usefull... 18.05.34 # yes 18.05.49 # the only problem is.. there is no playlist_clear() function 18.06.15 # playlist_init() might clear it :) 18.06.22 # scenario: I'm listenign to Tool. get 2 sings into an album and decide I don't want to listen to Tool any more but want to listen to a mix of other artists 18.06.51 # yeaaaaaaah tool ;) 18.07.09 # empty_playlist() 18.07.11 # got one :) 18.09.17 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.205) 18.10.00 # ok than i repeat an other suggestion ...a copy file function or better a "copy all files in the playlist to directory" option would be so nice 18.10.02 # t0mas: you can start a playlist with a single song already 18.10.26 # t0mas: on+play->playlist->insert when nothing is playing 18.10.37 # hi hardeep 18.10.38 # so, "stop" is the equivalent of a clear playlist 18.10.42 # hey amiconn 18.10.57 # stop stops what you're listening to as well tho 18.10.57 # hardeep: Nice, even I didn't know that 18.11.02 # lol 18.11.11 # we should get someone to write docs ;) 18.11.36 # hardeep: Am I right that the playlist is cleared only when you start adding new tracks? 18.11.56 # amiconn: yeah 18.12.04 # so that resume still works 18.12.09 # Afaiu the playlist is kept after stop, otherwise it wouldn't be possible to save it from stopped state, or resume 18.12.24 # ok, so it gets cleared when you add 1 song 18.12.27 # in stop mode 18.12.36 # (or add more) 18.13.00 # right just tested it works quite well 18.13.21 # t0mas: in your shuffle change, any reason you're using the same seed as before? 18.13.34 # hm... not a good one 18.14.04 Join belgarath [0] (~acd80976@labb.contactor.se) 18.14.29 # does it matter? 18.14.57 # t0mas: Did you test whether you one-time shuffled playlist saves & resumes correctly? 18.15.13 # t0mas: well, kinda... you'll need to resort before shuffling otherwise resume won't work 18.15.29 # hm... you want to save a shuffeled playlist? 18.15.30 # t0mas: and i doubt you want to shuffle with the same seed in that case 18.16.21 # t0mas: Of course I want, that's one of the best features in rockbox - that it saves and resumes playlists 18.16.50 # speakin gof playlists 18.16.52 # Sometimes I'm using playlists running several days in total, and I surely don't want to hear the same song twice 18.17.10 # ...even if I shutdown and resume several times 18.17.23 # do you think maybe Save playlist and View Playlist should be moved from Options to th ePlaylist menu? 18.17.34 # and how can I make rockbox save a shuffeled playlist? 18.17.48 # I don't mean saving it as an explicit playlist, but as dynamic playlist in rockbox 18.18.18 # cos you're editting the p;aylist in the playlist menu. seems logical to be able to View and Save there as well 18.18.19 # This is what the .playlist_control file is about 18.18.30 # The playlist stuff is really sophisticated 18.18.34 # ok, and how to make it resume? 18.19.03 # You need to make sure that the one-time shuffle doesn't confuse the dynamic playlist handling 18.19.14 # Ask hardeep, he seems to be a playlist expert 18.19.19 # it will if there's no sort in between 18.19.47 # hm... I call playlist_shuffle(seed, index); with seed = the original seed... and index = the first index 18.20.34 # and it doesn't like resuming that 18.20.47 # how can I edit the Rockbox font? I have some things I'd like to add to it 18.21.15 # hm... 18.21.25 # it doesn't resume a normal playlist either... 18.21.44 # t0mas: what do you mean normal playlist 18.21.47 # right @coldtoast ....maybe it´s only forgotten to implement it to the option>playlist menue 18.22.00 # hardeep: not suffeled... 18.22.03 # I turn it off 18.22.05 # then back on 18.22.16 # can't press on/play to make it start playing that list again 18.22.19 # t0mas: for the shuffle stuff, do this: playlist_sort(NULL, true);playlist_randomise(NULL, current_tick, true); 18.22.46 # t0mas: i don't know the button sequence on the iRiver 18.22.46 # I created icons for Album, Artist, Track, etc that'll fit in 6x8 and I'm thinking it'd be great to add them to the font so they scroll with %s 18.22.47 # ok 18.22.51 # t0mas: Does your playlist contain non-seekable formats, like ogg? 18.22.53 # on the archos it's pressing "ON" by itself 18.22.58 # amiconn: mp3 only 18.23.21 # hardeep: On iriver it is PLAY 18.23.40 # ...because PLAY is much like ON on the archos 18.23.59 # ...and archos PLAY roughly equals iriver SELECT 18.24.15 # ah, okay 18.24.28 # * amiconn can compare 18.25.01 # t0mas: so, press PLAY then SELECT to resume 18.25.07 # hardeep: so when I change my "static bool shuffle_playlist(void)" to the 2 lines you gave, it will work with resume? 18.25.09 # yup 18.25.31 # (@ hardeep) 18.25.40 # t0mas: yup 18.27.49 # k 18.27.49 # done 18.27.56 # * t0mas continues listening :D 18.32.22 Quit OnkelJonas ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 18.33.05 Join James [0] (~James@astound-69-42-5-52.ca.astound.net) 18.35.36 Quit courtc (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.38.08 Join courtc [0] (~courtc@adsl-154-39-101.asm.bellsouth.net) 18.48.17 Quit Coldtoast (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.50.44 Join TCK- [0] (TCK@81-86-100-18.dsl.pipex.com) 18.53.15 Join Stryke` [0] (~Chairman8@cpe-24-168-110-99.si.res.rr.com) 18.55.47 # what's the recommended version of gcc for rockbox builds nowadays (archos and iriver both)? 3.3.x or 3.4.x? 18.55.56 Quit James (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.56.47 # 3.4 18.57.27 Nick Sucka`away is now known as Sucka (~NNSCRIPT@host217-42-252-124.range217-42.btcentralplus.com) 18.57.54 # t0mas ? 18.58.42 # hardeep: Latest 3.3.x for archos, latest 3.4.x for iriver 18.58.54 # amiconn: thanks! 18.59.09 # 3.4.x will produce larger binaries for archos, while 3.3.x will choke on dumb for iriver 18.59.26 # 4.0.x doesn't work at all 19.01.09 # anything in 4.0 that would be useful to us anyways? 19.01.28 # 4.0 should optimise better 19.02.14 # iriver builds do compile with some tweaking and a heapload of warnings, but the binaries crash 19.02.46 # archos builds don't even compile, due to a construct in system.c that's no longer allowed in 4.0+ 19.02.55 # Imho this is a really silly decision 19.03.01 # who needs the binaries anyways, just stare at the source code enough and you'll start hearing music 19.03.05 Nick Aison is now known as Aison|cinema (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 19.03.10 Join asdsd____ [0] (~asdsd@h-67-100-29-118.miatflad.dynamic.covad.net) 19.03.22 Part asdsd____ 19.03.33 # Gcc 4.0 doesn't accept (weak) aliases to symbols not defined in the same translation unit 19.04.00 # ... but archos system.c does define aliases to symbols defined within an asm() block 19.04.43 Quit bobTHC ("Smoke Weed Every Day !") 19.07.42 # hmmm, any particular reason they do this? 19.08.10 # ugh! I broke h1x0 builds... but it built fine here !?! :puzzled: 19.08.50 # Hrmpf, last minute changes.... 19.09.11 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.10.59 Join linuxstb [0] (dave@dsl-212-23-31-215.zen.co.uk) 19.13.21 # amiconn: is that 4.0 issue for archos fixable? 19.13.37 # gcc should be fixed 19.13.58 # but they're not going to do that are they? 19.14.19 # I don't know... someone should report this bug 19.19.30 Join Sando [0] (lolsteam@144.135.255.155) 19.19.42 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 19.21.47 Join James [0] (~James@astound-69-42-5-52.ca.astound.net) 19.25.51 Join _aLF [0] (~Alexandre@mut38-2-82-67-66-128.fbx.proxad.net) 19.30.14 Quit Stryke` (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19.30.39 Quit belgarath ("CGI:IRC") 19.33.54 # Hi, I can't figure out how to send the IDENTIFY command to my hard drive - the instructions http://www.rockbox.org/lock.html refer to it, but do not explain how to send the IDENTIFY command 19.35.04 Nick Lynx_ is now known as Lynx_awy (~lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 19.38.59 Join Heidelbaer [0] (~h@p54A3D465.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.41.30 Join webguest59 [0] (~d49f4cf2@labb.contactor.se) 19.43.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.46.34 Join s [0] (~s@82-37-74-242.cable.ubr02.dudl.blueyonder.co.uk) 19.48.46 # hi 19.49.16 Quit s (Client Quit) 19.52.54 Join ep0ch [0] (~ep0ch@84.12.60.70) 19.53.19 # hi 19.57.45 # has anyone here reveresed the polarity of the replacement battery for ihp? i take it i need a soldering iron? or is there a way i can do it without? 19.57.50 Join bagawk [0] (~lee@bagawk.user) 20.09.06 Quit hardeep ("BitchX: now with 27 percent more random quit messages!") 20.10.41 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 20.14.04 # why do you want to reverse the polarity?? 20.14.59 # you have to 20.15.07 # the battery is made for the ipod I think 20.15.12 # yeah 20.15.16 # and it's plug has the polarity reversed 20.15.21 # i think i know how to do it now... 20.15.22 # compared to how the iriver plug is 20.15.24 # but 20.15.25 # make sure 20.15.35 # that the battery you have is a ipod battery 20.15.41 # yeah it is 20.15.44 # mhm 20.15.49 # ep0ch, you can probably just electircal tape and wires 20.15.57 # hmmm 20.16.07 # you may be better of not touching the plug 20.16.13 # you could end up b0rking it 20.16.21 # better to just cut the wires and splice them 20.16.24 # am gonna price off some plastic bit on the connector and see if the wires come out... 20.16.47 # thegeek: thats my next option :) 20.16.54 # well 20.17.02 # you could end up destroying the connector 20.20.46 Quit James ("Leaving") 20.21.20 # hmmm. 20.21.25 # sleep. rockbox. or gta san andreas 20.21.29 # the dilemma. 20.21.37 # rockbox! :) 20.21.45 # i knew someone was gonna say that :P 20.21.58 # same as sleep no? 20.22.01 # i need more sleep.. 20.22.02 # but 20.22.04 # if i sleep now 20.22.08 # i mess up my biorhythm 20.22.23 # if you're tired sleep 20.22.40 # society is wrong, we shouldn't have to do 9-5 20.22.42 # another point is that my flatmates are making too much noise to sleep properly 20.22.46 # i know. 20.22.48 # earplugs 20.22.53 # i don't have them :/ 20.23.02 # listed to rockbox :) 20.23.08 # listen 20.23.25 # ahh 20.23.27 # coffee! 20.23.50 # thegeek: did it without breaking the connector luckily 20.24.16 # now i'll have fun opening up the ihp 20.25.01 # or no i wont, i only have a T8... 20.30.11 # ;) 20.30.20 # I just use a small screwdriver 20.30.23 # that fits 20.30.33 # hmmm interesting 20.30.35 # and it's very easy to open/change the battery 20.30.45 # you're right! it fits 20.30.58 # just make sure its not too small 20.30.59 # you just saved me some money 20.31.01 # ;) 20.31.57 Join James [0] (~James@astound-69-42-5-52.ca.astound.net) 20.34.08 # does anyone know where you can get ihp-120's for under $99? 20.34.20 # hahahahahahahah 20.34.25 # ;) 20.34.28 # that's funny 20.34.54 # depends, do you want one that works? 20.39.08 # thegeek: it aint easy! 20.39.42 # would be if the power connector wasn't stuck behind the whole unit... 20.42.01 # you have to unscrew the pcb 20.42.02 # easy 20.42.08 # just make sure you don't scratch the lcd 20.42.08 # oh i see 20.42.11 # take out the HD 20.42.19 # theres screws underneath 20.42.21 # and the plug might be a littl hard to get out 20.42.27 # just be careful and take your time 20.42.30 # mhm 20.44.06 Nick Sucka is now known as Sucka`away (~NNSCRIPT@host217-42-252-124.range217-42.btcentralplus.com) 20.45.43 Quit bagawk ("Leaving") 20.47.47 # I can't see how the battery connector can get out, when the mains connector is in the way. I'll just keep on trying... 20.49.54 # ahhh. 20.49.59 # been there done that. 20.50.06 # :D 20.50.11 # ep0ch: just keep trying, it manages to get out after a while.. 20.50.19 # i had to snip my plug of my new battery down a bit 20.50.25 # so it would slide in to the connector 20.50.31 # i broke my old battery connector while getting it out 20.50.36 # well i've taken the wires out of the old connector... 20.50.44 # mhm.. 20.51.05 # what battery did you get? 20.51.12 # 2200 20.52.18 # Dette melder BBC, og dette skal være ny rekord. NTB skriver at 101 decibel tilsvarer lyden fra en motorsag i full drift, eller støyen en motorsyklist utsettes fra egen motor. 20.52.21 # crap 20.52.22 # sry 20.52.37 # wrong window? ;) 20.55.01 # yep 20.55.37 # was about wimbledon champion Maria Sjarapova's "sounds" 20.55.40 # 101 db 20.55.48 # pretty insane;) 20.56.07 # wonder if she's like that in bed... 20.56.19 # only one way to find out! 20.56.20 Quit tvelocity ("Leaving") 20.56.22 # ;) 20.56.34 # hmm 20.56.35 # well 20.56.45 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG) 20.56.48 # 101 db is so loud it would be uncomfortable beeing close to her 20.57.16 # a motorized grasscutter is like 98db 21.00.21 Join TCK [0] (TCK@81-86-208-144.dsl.pipex.com) 21.02.28 # so you'd prefer a grasscutter to sharapova? 21.03.41 Join Coldtoast [0] (edan@ppp110-115.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net) 21.03.56 # hey. does next track info still work in wps? 21.04.18 # doesn't seem to work here 21.04.27 Quit t0mas ("brb... time to set my temperature alert higher :)") 21.05.06 # oh. weird. just worked when it changed tracks 21.06.44 Join tvelocity [0] (~tony@ipa34.1.tellas.gr) 21.07.13 # My IBM hard drive is password protected... What is the default master password? 21.07.43 # are you in the right channel? 21.08.41 Join t0mas [0] (~Tomas@ip503c08d1.speed.planet.nl) 21.09.01 Quit TCK- (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 21.10.13 # yes - http://www.rockbox.org/lock.html 21.10.43 # sorry my bad 21.11.12 # no problem... this is such a pain 21.11.18 # i got a used laptop hard drive 21.11.26 # and i can't use it because it's password protected 21.11.27 # you might want to look into xbox hd unlocking 21.11.40 # lots of informatino regarding hd unlocking in that context 21.11.47 # oh man! you really want to hope it's not locked the same way the xbox is 21.11.50 # *information 21.11.52 # or it's useless 21.11.57 # yep;) 21.12.01 # yah, that's what i've heard 21.12.04 # err... same way the xbox locks them I mean 21.12.17 # I have a 120GB sitting here completely useless 21.12.21 # i'm pretty sure it's locked the same way 21.12.37 # only way to unlock it is to get a dump of the xbox it came from 21.12.43 # :( 21.13.14 # hey. when displaying track info, do you like Artist followed by Track or Track/Artist 21.13.16 # tech support won't help either "we can't give you the master password" (because we want you to buy a new drive) 21.13.31 # like, "Tool, Judith" or "Judith, Tool" 21.13.46 Join Stryke` [0] (~Chairman8@cpe-24-168-110-99.si.res.rr.com) 21.14.30 # there is no song from tool called judith ...so thats not important :-P 21.14.39 # heh 21.14.49 # :-D 21.14.54 # you go tme 21.15.04 # A Perfecet Circle, Judith 21.15.11 # ;) 21.15.12 # or Judith, A perfect Circle? 21.15.13 # [21:13] hey. when displaying track info, do you like Artist followed by Track or Track/Artist < artist - track 21.15.21 # ok 21.15.24 # (for me..) 21.15.34 # you get a better ordered list with artist/track I suppose 21.15.39 # i prefer first track than artist 21.15.43 # the ability to personalize this will be great no? 21.15.50 # or too difficult ? 21.15.53 # I am personalising it 21.16.00 # just deciding on teh order 21.16.17 # ^^ 21.17.51 # in the tagdatabase, its quite annoying that when browsing by album, every artists tracks not tagged with an album have their own entry 21.19.02 # where's Screendump in rockbox? 21.20.33 # hmmm. can you take a shot of the wps from rockbox? 21.21.37 # yes in the debug menü 21.21.38 Join belgarath [0] (~acd80976@labb.contactor.se) 21.21.47 # Turn the screendump function on in the debug menu. When you plug in the USB cable, Rockbox will automatically create a bitmap in the root directory of whatever is on the screen. 21.21.57 # ok 21.25.21 # Stryke`: there are several options for the database generator, i suggest you look into them. 21.25.50 # do any group all non-album tagged files as one album? 21.25.53 # Coldtoast, do you know how to send IDENTIFY commands to an ATA hard disk? 21.26.09 # hcl: where's my dynamic realtime database? :-) 21.26.27 # elinenbe: current database design does not allow it. 21.26.52 # archos models have too little memory to faciliate a proper realtime database 21.27.01 # but runtime info and db tool should be a fair solution 21.27.03 # for now 21.27.04 # HCl: time to get an iriver? :) 21.27.21 # i have one. 21.27.24 # i don't have archos models 21.27.34 # its just that the people here want me to code for all platforms 21.27.36 # not just iriver 21.29.27 # HCL: sorry to repeat myself but do any implementations group all non-album tagged files as one album? 21.29.30 Join |ep0ch [0] (~ep0ch@84.12.60.70) 21.29.52 # an album is associated to a directory either way. 21.30.01 # there's an option to force all files in a directory to be a single album 21.30.37 # what i mean is, i have a bunch of single tracks (no album tag) by a bunch of different artists, each artist gets their own no-album entry in the Album list 21.30.44 # yup 21.30.50 # ofcourse they do. 21.31.00 # why would they be in the same album? 21.31.17 # same album tag 21.31.39 # didn't you just say you had no album tag? 21.31.43 # yes 21.31.54 # are all the files in the same directory? 21.31.55 # http://www.3dluvr.com/edan/tmp/WPS.jpg 21.32.09 # nope 21.32.30 # then you really can't expect them to be put in the same album 21.32.31 # sorry. 21.32.38 # i understand 21.33.01 # its just when i browse albums, and theres 70 or so no-album entries, its a bit disconcerting 21.33.03 # there's no good reasoning behind putting files from across the filesystem with no album tag, all of different artists, in a single album 21.33.33 # can't be helped, tag your files, i say 21.33.38 # maybe tracks with no album tag should not be in the album list 21.33.54 Quit ep0ch (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 21.33.55 Nick |ep0ch is now known as ep0ch (~ep0ch@84.12.60.70) 21.34.07 # why not? 21.34.25 # it makes sense to me to just associate them to the directory 21.34.40 # you can use --dirisalbumname to make it more readable perhaps? 21.34.49 # thanks 21.34.51 # it substitutes directory name for album name if there is no album tag 21.36.14 Nick Sucka`away is now known as Sucka (~NNSCRIPT@host217-42-252-124.range217-42.btcentralplus.com) 21.36.14 # thegeek, HCl: thanks battery is sorted now :) 21.36.19 # :) 21.36.41 # and i didn't loose a screw! 21.36.51 # :p 21.36.53 # :p 21.37.05 # what about ending up with too many? :P 21.37.13 # heh 21.37.49 # hey nice on @coldtoast can you post the files here..? ... http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=534.15 or maybe somewhere else 21.38.04 # I can zip it up 21.38.14 # in WPS gallery 21.38.33 # there's hardly any info on screen tho. hehe 21.38.36 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsGallery 21.38.48 Join courtc_ [0] (~courtc@adsl-158-51-226.asm.bellsouth.net) 21.39.14 # yes wps gallery or a new wiki would be better 21.39.35 Quit courtc (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.39.42 # hmm i think i hav got a good wps 21.39.50 # works good for me 21.40.00 # it's pretty much all I want 21.40.10 # except I'd like estimated battery life on there too 21.40.13 # Coldtoast: yeah that's nice :) 21.40.26 # but that can wait til it's all worked out 21.40.29 Nick courtc_ is now known as courtc (~courtc@adsl-158-51-226.asm.bellsouth.net) 21.41.05 # cool. Got a few little bitmaps there too 21.41.07 # works with bigger font sizes too right? 21.41.17 # did cpu boost variable ever make it wps? 21.41.17 # you'd have to move the bitmaps 21.41.24 # make it to wps 21.41.34 # works with bigger font sizes too doesn´t it? 21.41.34 # actually, there's space for bigger fonts 21.41.47 # didn't even think of that but it's there anyway :) 21.42.50 Quit webguest59 ("CGI:IRC") 21.43.11 # greyscale would be nice... 21.43.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.43.32 # or even albumart in backround yeah:) 21.44.36 # Coldtoast: sorry where can i get your wps? 21.44.43 # tried a larger font and it wipes on eof the bitmaps out so you'd have to move em 21.44.48 # I'll zip it up 21.44.52 # ah cool 21.45.40 # my mp3s are being really dodgy when playing now... 21.45.59 # Coldtoast : you can put the script directly in WPS gallery with dump 21.46.13 # need the bitmaps tho 21.46.36 # yes for we can see it 21.46.44 # belgarath: seems fine to me 21.47.16 # Coldtoast: look @ http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsGallery 21.47.23 # belgarath: are they very high bit rate? 21.47.32 # 192kbs vbr 21.47.44 # they played ok after buffering for ages 21.47.45 # ep0ch: might be resampler 21.47.53 # yeah i thought that 21.48.17 # couldn't code be put in to only resample non 44.1 khz? 21.48.44 # yeah "could"... 21.49.37 # would that imply a major rewrite then? 21.49.45 # no point as i believe the code for resampling will get moved later to work for all codecs 21.52.04 # its just doesn't the cpu being used much more for resampling mean the battery life will suffer? 21.52.54 # belgarath: yes but i believe its just a temporary thing at the moment. 21.53.16 # belgarath: The current resampler is an intermediate solution and will be replaced 21.53.54 # anyone know if rockbox Tremor is more efficient than iriver Tremor, whoever did the rockbox codec did a good job :) 21.53.56 # there ep0ch 21.54.23 # cheers, never used a wps before 21.54.54 # put everything in .rockbox and load the .wps in settings 21.55.09 # didn't bother crating a subdir. heh 21.55.29 # * amiconn still uses the default wps on iriver 21.55.47 # Couldn't be bothered to create my own... 21.56.01 # ...although I did so on archos 21.57.33 # Coldtoast: hmm I put the files in a sub dir (called wps), images don't appear, any idea off the top of your head? 21.57.39 # the little rockbox logo looks nice I think 21.57.55 # yeah. I didn't create subdirs 21.58.05 # I dumped all of it in .rockbox 21.58.18 # cos I'm lazy 21.58.39 # so i have to reference the directory name in the .wps then? 21.58.45 Join rasher [0] (~3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) 21.59.20 Quit Stryke` ("Friends don't let friends listen to Anti-Flag") 21.59.25 Join Stryke` [0] (~Chairman8@cpe-24-168-110-99.si.res.rr.com) 21.59.43 # Is logf for plugins limited? 21.59.56 # * amiconn spots rasher 21.59.59 # hi rasher 22.00.17 # logf() shouldn't be limited, 22.00.27 # or rather, have the same limits as in the core 22.00.30 # wait, I'm an idiot 22.00.50 # Iirc you dd the 160px wide b&w rockbox logo? 22.01.28 # nope 22.01.42 # No? Hmm. 22.01.44 # That was already there when I arrived 22.01.57 # the one used for the splash, right? 22.02.01 # yup 22.02.06 # Coldtoast: cool just added wps/ infront of the image names, looks good!! 22.02.17 # I'd need a 4-grey version soon... 22.02.30 # (I hope) 22.02.44 # \o/ 22.02.50 # I'll have a look at it anyway 22.04.07 # Hrm 22.04.28 # Should I just use greys for less aliasing? 22.04.36 Join xen`` [0] (~xen@pla25-1-82-227-196-9.fbx.proxad.net) 22.04.57 # ep0ch: you'll need the .wps file itself in .rockbox tho 22.05.06 # or it won't work next time you boot rockbox 22.05.20 # oh that explains it, ty 22.05.23 # np 22.05.40 # is that a bug? 22.05.46 Quit RotAtoR () 22.05.59 # it's stated in the docs i think 22.06.35 # yeah maybe i should read the docs one day... 22.06.39 # "If the "played" wps file is located in the /.rockbox folder, it'll be remembered and used for subsequent restarts" 22.07.29 # wish I had a font that looked decent that small tho. I had to manually create the lettering in PS 22.07.30 # heh 22.10.17 # amiconn: http://rasher.dk/rockbox/160-2bit.png .. doesn't really look very good 22.10.48 # (just did a simple resize and then change to 2-bit) 22.13.47 # Looks like that would need some work to really look nice 22.13.58 # indeed 22.14.04 # I'm not much of a graphics person 22.14.05 # Anyway, I don't need it right now, but in the not so far future 22.14.20 # but I did have a high-res b&w logo lying around 22.14.27 Join amx [0] (~amx@Ottawa-HSE-ppp255529.sympatico.ca) 22.15.36 Quit spiralout (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.20.29 # Coldtoast: may you make available your wps & files? ^^ 22.20.36 # I like your theme lol 22.21.15 # sure thing 22.21.48 # thx ^^ 22.22.16 # thx ^^ 22.22.24 # np 22.24.52 Join Flemmard [0] (~flemmard@fbx.flemmard.net) 22.26.16 # Maxime`Mrn: get the hell outta here ! 22.26.17 # :p 22.26.24 Join ghostiger2 [0] (~ghostiger@05c68aaa513b01ab.session.tor) 22.32.25 Join nxmja [0] (~5223f765@labb.contactor.se) 22.32.27 Join [1]Chamois [0] (~Chamois@champigny-5-82-226-182-23.fbx.proxad.net) 22.32.38 # hi all 22.32.52 # quick one... battery.dummy? 22.33.07 # file in your root dir? 22.33.21 # created by battery_test.rock 22.33.25 Quit Maxime`Mrn (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.33.25 # yeah thats it 22.33.44 # oh, so I can just get rid of it if I want... I did a test a few days back but hadn't checked the root 22.33.59 # ta rasher 22.36.26 Join RotAtoR [0] (~e@c-67-162-206-66.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 22.39.04 Quit nxmja ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.40.03 Join muesli- [0] (muesli_tv@Bc146.b.pppool.de) 22.40.42 # jo 22.40.52 Quit Chamois (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 22.40.52 Nick [1]Chamois is now known as Chamois (~Chamois@champigny-5-82-226-182-23.fbx.proxad.net) 22.41.00 Quit Stryke` ("Friends don't let friends listen to Anti-Flag") 22.41.03 Join Stryke` [0] (~Chairman8@cpe-24-168-110-99.si.res.rr.com) 22.42.42 # erm, when will the greyscale be fully supported on rockbox? (if it's not?) 22.45.10 Part James ("Leaving") 22.46.11 # the iriver firmware is 1 bit so if any of the guys working on rockbox get any more than 1bit, cool! 22.46.29 # It's using 2-bit 22.46.33 # err, it is 1bit, right? 22.46.54 # 2-bit = black, white and 2 greys 22.46.56 # oh? whereare the other coliurs used? thought the progress bar was just dithered 22.46.56 # iriver uses grayscale no? 22.47.09 # Coldtoast: The display can do 2bit natively 22.47.14 # the usb-screen has 2-bit 22.47.21 # and the boot logo has grayscales too 22.47.23 # oh. ok 22.47.29 # The remote is b&w only 22.47.47 # I am working on it 22.47.49 # * rasher sighs 22.47.53 # (the 2bit mode) 22.48.03 # I've ported matrix from ipodlinux/podzilla 22.48.10 # (screensaver-type thing) 22.48.17 # hey. an etch-a-sketch plug would be quite cute. hehe. that's 1 bit :) 22.48.18 # Just need bitmaps of the font.. 22.48.21 # erm 22.48.33 # rasher: special font? 22.48.34 # Also, it's hella slow 22.48.34 # the middle button on iriver, is designed by wich name? 22.48.46 # BUTTON_SELECT ? 22.48.55 # amiconn: yeah, matrix code 22.49.20 # I'm just using a bitmap of a 1 and 0 right now 22.49.22 # looks right 22.49.51 # it's originally a port of cmatrix for linux 22.49.52 # Why is it slow? 22.49.59 # Floats? 22.50.03 # lots of lcd_bitmap I think 22.50.06 # hrm 22.50.13 # don't think there are any floats 22.50.27 # I think matrix should be fast, even on archos 22.50.33 # It's plain 2d 22.50.38 # how many icons does rockbox use? and any chance of gettign access to them for the wps? 22.50.38 # yes.. I'm wondering what's going on 22.51.42 # hah 22.51.45 # I was using logf 22.51.53 # for each character being drawn 22.51.56 # forgot about that 22.52.04 # certainly too fast now 22.52.23 # hahah 22.53.46 # in the latest bleedign edge, the Playlist options in Settings looks lonely now with it's 1 option :) 22.54.16 # do playlists work with id3 database now? 22.56.18 # reboot, brb 22.56.20 Quit amiconn (" Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 22.59.52 # what's "dumb" ? 22.59.56 # DUMB has been built. Run 'make install' to install it. 22.59.58 # o_O 23.00.11 # Module/tracker library 23.00.34 # ok 23.01.12 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@p54BD734B.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.01.58 Join preglow [0] (~81f18ab7@labb.contactor.se) 23.02.15 # amiconn: working on proper greyscale support? 23.02.24 # gfx api first 23.03.39 Quit tvelocity ("Leaving") 23.03.47 # Slasheri: gotten any further in integrating resampling? 23.04.07 # preglow: yes, but it's not very easy to do. I am now coding dsp.c :) 23.04.12 # oooooh 23.04.17 # no, i can imagine it's not quickly done 23.04.24 # We will get rid at least one memory copy buffer in mpa.c 23.04.32 # very nice 23.04.42 # what does that mean? 23.04.45 # but please, throughout, keep in mind we don't want to round to sixteen bits until the last stage 23.04.49 # we should make a linux layer for pcm playback in the sim 23.04.50 # *dumbask* 23.04.51 # muesli-: little better performance 23.05.00 Join n0bby [0] (~nobby@cpc4-bele3-3-1-cust38.belf.cable.ntl.com) 23.05.11 # mk :) 23.05.17 # preglow: yes 23.05.27 # that dsp.c will handle also dithering/rescaling/clipping etc. 23.05.33 # Slasheri: excellent, wonderful 23.05.41 # anyone planning an major iriver-related commits before tomorrow lunchtime? i'm going off on holidays and dont want to miss anything :) 23.05.47 # Bagder: there's a patch in the tracker for that 23.05.52 # Bagder: seems the dust has settled after your big commit yesterday too 23.05.57 # rasher: recent? 23.06.05 # Bagder: not by far 23.06.06 # i enjoyed audio playback with no hickups today 23.06.12 # goodie 23.06.12 # so nice work 23.06.23 # it sorely needed doing 23.06.31 # yes, it feels good to have that done 23.06.36 # agreed 23.06.44 # what was done exactly? 23.07.19 # the codecs are no longer faked plugins 23.07.24 # ah right. 23.07.27 # yup 23.07.28 # good work 23.07.46 # Bagder: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&group_id=44306&aid=1094958 23.07.48 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 23.07.55 # linus: hola 23.07.57 # since all the devs are online, i have a question. Does the iriver force a 3 second shutdown, or can settings be saved before the unit powers off? it keeps catching me out and losing my settings 23.08.00 # hi LinusN 23.08.08 # * amiconn slaps Linus a bit ;) 23.08.18 # ouch 23.08.20 # * n0bby pokes LinusN 23.08.25 # n0bby: that can and should be fixed, afaik 23.08.29 # rasher: thanks, you tried it? 23.08.52 # Bagder: It didn't apply when I tried.. see my comment on the tracker 23.08.53 # Bagder: played snake2 smoothly while listening to music, was quite exilerating ;) 23.09.05 # the plugin issue is fixed? 23.09.09 # LinusN: That was not the nicest way, leaving broken player builds and 1/4 of the functions unusable on Ondio... 23.09.11 # n0bby: it doesn't save the settings? 23.09.13 # n0bby: yeas 23.09.19 # w00t 23.09.25 # and no, iriver doesnt 23.09.26 # amiconn: i know, sorry about that 23.09.34 # or at least didnt on a build a few days ago 23.09.44 # I fixed that... instead of working on gfx 23.09.45 # im transfering 40GB music right now so i cant test 23.11.07 # amiconn: i shouldn't have taken away the functions from the menus 23.11.28 # but the ondio stuff still had to be done by an ondio owner 23.11.44 # hmm, i though i built the player to test... 23.12.00 # n0bby: which setting was this? 23.12.37 # "catching me out"? 23.12.40 # the most obvious one i noticed was invers screen :) 23.12.40 # LinusN: I can live with the current solution on Ondio... it might turn out as a good solution after some getting-used-to 23.12.44 # *inverse 23.12.55 # LinusN: Btw, what do you think about the solution? 23.13.01 # amiconn: good 23.13.02 Join Aison [0] (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 23.13.19 # "catching me out" as in, i alter a setting and shut it off without forcing disc access 23.13.20 # i wasn't really sure what the solution was 23.13.28 # erm.. i think in plugins buttons "left" and "down" are buggy .. :x 23.13.37 # And btw, one of you could get an Ondio too... they're dead cheap compared to iriver 23.13.40 # up and right goes well, but the others don't 23.13.43 # (at least the SPs) 23.13.53 # n0bby: some settings aren't stored until you leave the setting menu 23.13.55 # Flemmard: which plugin? 23.14.03 # rasher: one plugin I do 23.14.08 # linus: im pretty sure i did 23.14.13 # linus: not sure 23.14.25 # Flemmard: I'm pretty sure the problem lies in your code 23.14.29 # linus: does save-on-shutdown happen now? 23.14.39 Join pike2 [0] (pike@c83-249-120-49.bredband.comhem.se) 23.14.45 # rasher: eh, exactly the same code for left than for right.. it's quite strange 23.14.58 # eh 23.14.59 # i'm dumb 23.15.03 # Well, they work in other plugisn 23.15.03 # * Flemmard --> [- ] 23.15.09 # forgotten "break;" ^^ 23.15.24 # A classic 23.15.36 # sry ^^ 23.15.46 # * HCl eyes his alarmclock 23.16.03 # thats the second time it turned itself on to go off at 8 am 23.16.04 # i swear. 23.16.07 # its plotting an evil plan. 23.16.13 # eheh.. quite better :x 23.16.14 Join Nuxator [0] (~chatzilla@abo-117-249-68.guy.modulonet.fr) 23.16.14 # lol 23.16.14 Quit belgarath ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.16.21 # ji all 23.16.27 # Hcl: i set mine for 6PM in case that happens 23.16.53 # LinusN: Do you remember my usb probleme with iriver rockbox? 23.17.31 # vaguely 23.17.53 # I've go news : when i swith off my comp or suspend to ram Rockbox exit form usb mode 23.18.28 # don't know why when i unplug it it doesn't detect it should exit usb mode 23.19.59 # does it happen on any pc or just yoursS? 23.20.01 # -s 23.20.17 # any (windows linus decktop laptop...) 23.20.28 # Nuxator: You mean, when you pull the USB plug rockbox stays in USB mode, but noot when you powerdown the PC with the iriver still connected? 23.20.35 # g'n8 23.20.41 # *not 23.21.02 # yes 23.21.17 # My, how appropriate - Matrix on tv 23.21.26 # Hmm. With iriver firmware this does not happen? 23.21.30 # no 23.21.42 # LinusN: Probably some pull-down problem? 23.21.54 # might be 23.21.58 Quit thegeek (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.22.09 Join thegeek [0] (na@ti521110a080-1839.bb.online.no) 23.24.08 # Just wanted LinusN that i found a workaround to my prob , and maybe helping him to understand this problem.... 23.24.18 # thx 23.25.17 # No thx you for rockbox, i was waiting for a such H140 firmware since i bought it (iriver's firmware is so desapointing) 23.25.28 # HAH! 23.25.45 # hah? 23.25.58 # what was the deal with the "shuffle playlist" option? 23.26.04 # like iriver would release a firmware with actual FIXES adn UPDATES 23.26.20 # linus: mixes up a playlist 23.26.24 # Well they did, but not much 23.26.31 # LinusN: I believe it is a re-shuffle action 23.26.43 # And it's usefull 23.27.10 # if i add more than one directory to my playlist, only the first was shuffled 23.27.10 # well, you could do that before too 23.27.18 # ? 23.27.23 # no way 23.27.34 # i think it should be named "reshuffle" 23.27.41 # I fully agree 23.27.45 Quit Stryke` ("Friends don't let friends listen to Anti-Flag") 23.27.48 Join Stryke` [0] (~Chairman8@cpe-24-168-110-99.si.res.rr.com) 23.27.51 # But you can do the playlist in normal play mode 23.27.59 # and then shuffle it if you want 23.28.01 # and "playlist" is a little misleading 23.28.17 Join webguest13 [0] (~d49f4cf2@labb.contactor.se) 23.28.40 # Nuxator: that's how it always worked 23.29.18 # es i know thats why reshuffling is usefull 23.29.24 # es=yes 23.29.27 # ? 23.29.51 Quit Aison|cinema (Connection timed out) 23.30.13 # LinusN: may we call the dumpscreen function with a plugin? 23.30.16 # When i add directories in dynamic playlist ony the firs was shuffled 23.30.33 # in random play mode 23.30.39 # that that is a bug 23.30.43 # then that 23.30.54 # imo 23.31.15 # Bagder: not easy to solve 23.31.33 # because we don't want to always reshuffle? 23.31.46 Join Aison|cinema [0] (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 23.32.00 # Bagder: yes 23.32.01 # I never use dynamic playlists, I have a hard time to see how its used 23.32.13 # ooops wanted to shut down rockbox it crached 23.32.28 # Nuxator: that sometimes happen when you shut down with music playing 23.32.29 # fair enough 23.32.33 # Bagder: From what I understand, if you have shuffle enabled and add multiple dirs, each dir will be shuffled, but only within itself 23.32.37 # but I want it called "reshuffle" 23.32.41 # ok whant error message? 23.32.50 # Nuxator: nah 23.32.53 # ok 23.32.59 # Flemmard: what do you mean? 23.33.14 # damn where is my reset paper clip 23.33.15 # amiconn: oh, right. the picture is clearing up here now 23.33.23 # LinusN, in fact in one plugin I want to take a screenshot of the player .. 23.33.28 # may I call the scren_dump function? 23.33.47 # no 23.33.54 # ok 23.34.02 Quit Aison (Connection refused) 23.34.09 # 'have to make a similar function so? 23.34.21 # copy/paste the code and call that :P 23.34.21 # ah no 23.34.24 # no, use the normal method 23.34.34 # So if someone wants to shuffle a whole list, but not save it beforehand, that reshuffle could be useful (not that I need it) 23.34.40 # LinusN, in fact I'm doing a small draw plugin 23.34.50 # so I want to allow to save what we do so.. 23.34.54 # amiconn: yes 23.35.00 # but we should call it reshuffle 23.35.09 # imho 23.35.34 # Bagder: The only way to have a whole list shuffled without reshuffle would be to create the list with shuffle disabled, then enable shuffle after adding all dirs 23.35.46 # yes 23.35.47 # ...while music is not playing 23.36.05 # which then would change seed and risk you playing the already played songs again 23.36.18 # yes 23.36.39 # but of course, that does reshuffle too 23.36.43 # Reshuffle is more suitable, I agree 23.36.51 # (as the name) 23.37.04 # That also translates better to German 23.37.14 # "Neu mischen" 23.38.34 # i'm still struggling with 'crossfade' in norwegian :/ 23.38.58 # I wonder why t0mas didn't update dutch on the way 23.39.06 # in Fench "Remélanger" 23.39.16 # doesn't help me one iota :P 23.39.17 # I always update german when adding new strings 23.39.47 # Nuxator: Is that an a... with what accent?? 23.39.55 # it's utf8, is what it is 23.39.57 # (no utf-8 supporthere) 23.40.02 # "Fondu enchaine" plutot 23.40.26 # Backlight fade-in is a bitch for Dansih 23.40.38 # Reshuffle=Remélanger (ecute) 23.40.38 # everything with 'fade' is a bitch in norwegian 23.40.45 # we really have no good word for it that i'm aware of 23.40.50 # There's a nice word for slowly shutting off the light 23.40.58 # but nothing comparable for turning it on 23.40.59 # preglow: got a word for dim? 23.41.01 # yes, that's 'blende' in norwegian 23.41.10 # blende = dim 23.41.19 # unblende! 23.41.26 # but i think it sounds silly when you use it for 'fade' 23.41.28 # Flemmard: we could export a save_bmp function to the plugin api 23.41.29 # No "un" 23.41.30 Quit muesli- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.41.38 # is there an "un" eqivalent? 23.41.46 # At least, Danish has nothing like that 23.41.46 Quit kenshin (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.41.51 Quit Coldtoast ("Peace and Protection 4.22") 23.42.03 # Nothing that works generally at least 23.42.08 # i just translated it to 'kryssfade' while yelling ARGHHH NO MORE 23.42.17 # There are some that work in some cases 23.42.34 # preglow: how about something liek I did in Danish: sammenbland (to mix two things) 23.43.00 # that'd work well in norwegian too, but i don't like the sound of it 23.43.00 # heh 23.43.01 # i'm picky 23.43.07 # actually, I changed that 23.43.12 # to "glidende overgang" 23.43.22 # hmm 23.43.24 # that's better, actually 23.43.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.43.31 # danish is hilarous sounding:D 23.43.40 # We get that a lot 23.44.19 # preglow: lmao. 23.44.34 # * preglow hands HCl his ass back 23.44.57 # rofl 23.45.05 # * preglow puts amiconn back on his feet 23.45.25 # * preglow starts interpreting abbreviations literally 23.47.47 # rotflmmfao 23.47.51 # :P 23.47.53 # * preglow faints 23.48.58 # rofl.l %d0 23.49.13 # EIEIO 23.49.16 Quit xen`` () 23.49.31 # Bagder: What's that???? 23.49.31 # good old ppc instruction 23.49.38 # ahah 23.49.44 # i like 'asl' 23.49.47 # an old favourite 23.49.55 # always makes me smile, that 23.50.59 # Bagder: it's "thou shalt", actually :P 23.51.31 # I had this feeling I'd get someone to point out my flaws there ;-) 23.51.53 # haha 23.52.31 Quit rasher ("CGI:IRC 0.5.4 (2004/01/29)") 23.53.35 # LinusN, i've started one draw plugin, would you test? (if you have 2 minutes..) 23.53.48 # (according to one "requested feature") 23.53.49 # sorry, i don't 23.53.51 # ok 23.54.14 # Flemmard: someone else might be interested 23.54.20 # yup 23.54.36 # so want to test? :x ^^ 23.54.48 Join bipple [0] (~519833ba@labb.contactor.se) 23.55.10 # Av we got radio on this thingy yet then laddys? 23.55.54 # [23:41] Flemmard: we could export a save_bmp function to the plugin api < will be great yeah, like save_bmp(x, y, filename) (x, y is the zone to be saved) 23.55.58 # bipple: no 23.56.32 # Flemmard: go ahead and do that and submit a patch 23.57.02 # WHats wrong with the radio ? 23.57.48 # nothing wrong, it's just not been finished yet 23.57.51 Quit amx ("leaving") 23.58.09 # will i be able to recieve alien signals 23.58.22 # Bagder: I'm afraid I don't know enough how rockbox's done to do this 23.58.47 # (i'm a beginner of rockbox :x lol) 23.59.00 # bipple: very likely, yes