--- Log for 25.06.105 Server: brown.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 14 days and 22 hours ago 00.00.00 # i think some people might want to have gapless switching (at least i heard that on this channel) 00.00.06 # I guess 95% of the users would like to song to start when they hit the button... and don't care about a few ms. gap between manually switched tracks 00.00.17 # *the song 00.00.21 # indeed 00.00.43 # true.. maybe you could enable that function until audiobuffer flushing is implemented 00.00.50 # ok 00.00.55 # Slasheri: rockbox had "gapless" switching a long time ago, but we removed it because the ui feedback sucked because of it 00.00.55 # i cannot change the code right now until i finnish my dsp stuff 00.01.06 # LinusN: same problem now 00.01.23 # Slasheri: I can... what should I check to see if we're crossfading? 00.01.55 # (this seems not very usefull:) 00.01.56 # bool pcm_is_crossfade_enabled(void) 00.01.56 # { 00.01.56 DBUG Enqueued KICK t0mas 00.01.56 # return false; 00.01.56 # } 00.02.02 # LinusN: hmm, ok. however, i think with proper pcm buffer flushing the gapless switching could be made on iriver without any negative effects 00.02.45 # Hmm, it _should_ have return crossfade_enabled; 00.03.00 # if it doesn't, please commit that fix :) 00.03.27 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 00.03.27 # * t0mas cvs updates... maybe I'm missing something 00.03.47 # hm.. not changed 00.04.13 # erm... 00.04.14 # bool pcm_crossfade_init(void) 00.04.14 # { 00.04.14 *** Alert Mode level 1 00.04.14 # return false; 00.04.14 *** Alert Mode level 2 00.04.14 # } 00.04.27 # weird.. i checked even cvs diff and it seems to be ok 00.04.41 # I have 1.64 00.04.48 # same as in webcvs... 00.05.00 # eh, you have something wrong in your sources.. 00.05.05 # http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/apps/playback.c?rev=1.64&view=log 00.05.10 # something wrong in CVS then... 00.05.11 # are you sure you checked pcm_playback.c? 00.05.18 # ARG 00.05.21 # ok, those are simulator stubs in playback.c :D 00.05.21 # * t0mas wakes up 00.05.23 # ofcourse 00.06.51 # * t0mas starts looking at the right file :X 00.10.03 # +800 byte on iriver... 00.10.08 Join preglow [0] (~81f18ab7@labb.contactor.se) 00.10.15 # hi ho 00.10.20 # hi 00.10.25 # lo 00.10.35 # oh... tnx amiconn, I remember a "Linus question" 00.10.44 # how big is the flash rom in the iriver? 00.10.45 # huh? 00.10.53 # and how big is the original firmware 00.11.13 # the flash is 2mbyte 00.11.18 # +800 byte on iriver... <-- remembered it because of that 00.11.25 # ah 00.11.58 # LinusN: and do you think it's possible to have both rockbox and iriver in flash? 00.12.42 # there is about 64kbyte left iirc 00.13.01 # so the answer is no 00.13.22 # hm... we need at least 200 kb right? 00.13.42 # yup 00.13.45 # The iriver firmware is running directly from rom? 00.13.51 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.14.11 # amiconn: no, but the iriver boot does 00.14.15 *** Alert Mode OFF 00.14.20 # it copies itself to ram 00.14.31 # but it's not as simple as on the archos 00.14.52 # Does that happen before the rockbox bootloader kicks in? 00.14.57 # no 00.15.43 Join Jleagle [0] (Owner@spr2-cosh3-5-0-cust23.cosh.broadband.ntl.com) 00.16.36 # Slasheri? any idea what's causing it then? :) 00.17.02 # t0mas: hmm, causing what? :) 00.17.10 # the delay 00.17.32 # ah, it's because pcm buffer has buffered data from previous track 00.17.59 # that should be flushed from right position after there are few chunks buffered from next track 00.18.06 # flushed=cut 00.18.09 # but it switched quicker before.. 00.18.27 # yes, because before it cleared the entire buffer 00.18.36 # * amiconn was lucky 00.18.37 # now it doesn't do that without pcm_play_stop 00.18.40 # No clash 00.18.42 # ok, maybe that is the desired behaviour atm? 00.19.22 # amiconn : congratulations :D 00.19.41 # and the initial delay before track starts playing is caused by disk spinup & codec load time and initial pcm buffering (4 chunks) 00.20.01 # yes, but that was a short period... 00.20.18 # from the filebrowser the disk is nomally spinning... so it was only loading a bit 00.20.43 # hmm, yes.. i can debug that later. maybe it could be made a little faster 00.23.30 Quit Jleagle ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.4/20050511]") 00.24.16 # hm... 00.24.25 # LinusN: why does it copy itself to ram? i thought you said executing code from flash is actually faster 00.24.50 # and if I change line 1010 in playback.c (not pcm_playback) from //pcm_play_stop() to "if (!pcm_is_crossfade_enabled()) pcm_play_stop();" 00.27.12 # t0mas: you can do that, it fixes the delay when crossfading is not enabled 00.27.21 # i can do a better fix later 00.27.27 # yes, you should 00.27.29 # now nights to all :) 00.27.35 # it's better to do some sort of buffer flush 00.27.40 # with crossfading in mind... 00.27.41 # yep 00.27.59 # I'll test this... and commit 00.28.05 # to keep people happy about the speed :) 00.28.17 # and you can change it back when there's a better solution 00.28.42 # preglow: ask iriver 00.29.09 # preglow: besides, the sdram is faster, since it can burst from sdram 00.29.59 # you can't burst from rom? :/ 00.30.16 # does that hold generally, or is it just a "feature" of that particuilar chip? 00.31.08 # few flash roms have burst modes that are faster than consecutive reads 00.31.47 # flash roms have static addressing, not row/column 00.32.03 # correct 00.32.03 Quit TCK- (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 00.32.07 # too long since i dabbled in this kind of thing 00.32.13 # Okay, buckle up... 00.33.22 # david bryant's done some analyzing of how iriver does resampling 00.33.27 # and they seem to do quite fancy stuff 00.33.37 # more than i would have expected 00.34.19 # let's hope I didn't break anything 00.34.36 # preglow: like what? 00.35.44 # for downsampling, they use a pretty high order (i guess) iir filtering, then linear interpolation decimation 00.35.57 # for upsampling they use a 64 tap ideal lowpasss fir filter 00.36.40 # all of this is very possible, i just expected them to do some cheap ass stuff like they do with their playback speed handling, heh 00.37.22 # the resampling seems to screw up the playtime calculations 00.37.34 # our resampling? 00.37.36 # so 48khz tracks end prematurely 00.37.38 # yes 00.37.42 # no surprise 00.37.51 # i didn't test it much at all, i just intended for it to be put somewhere else 00.37.56 # which is what slasheri is doing at the moment 00.38.05 # yeah 00.38.32 # some guy was so happy woth the resampling, because he ripped all his cd:s with 48khz :-) 00.38.43 # ahahahaha 00.38.49 # kudos to him 00.38.54 # i wonder how he manages it 00.39.06 # and he probably thought it gave him better quality :-) 00.39.30 # i know rippers that can resample 00.39.40 # god knows why though 00.40.17 # lmao. 00.40.25 # odd people 00.40.26 # gnight. 00.40.34 # amiconn: so one should always set DRAWMODE_SOLID as some kind of default? 00.40.38 # LinusN: A part of the code size increase comes from the fact that I already implemented lcd_hline() and lcd_vline(). What I did not yet do is to actually use them in places where they could be used 00.40.55 # They're optimised of course 00.41.08 # LinusN: Yes, DRMODE_SOLID is the default 00.41.26 # ok 00.41.32 # btw, i made speex compile under rockbox yesterday 00.41.47 # didn't do much, but enough to see it uses floating point functions, even in fixed point mode :/ 00.41.48 # Once I am done with that I'll update the wiki page to reflect current design 00.42.15 # preglow: flixed point ;) 00.42.48 # i think it's just for initialising sine tables and the like 00.42.51 # AND 00.42.55 # it does a hell of a lot of allocing 00.44.48 Join kenshin [0] (~dave@c-24-17-8-193.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 00.44.53 # amiconn: tLCDPixelFunc ??? 00.45.00 # yeps 00.45.07 # Slasheri: the gap is now just a few miliseconds 00.45.11 # but the wps is still lagging 00.45.20 Join TCK [0] (TCK@81-86-98-95.dsl.pipex.com) 00.45.24 # (probably because the next track wasn't buffered yet) 00.45.32 # i don't like typedefs very much, especially not when they're mixed case 00.45.35 # I know that typedefs shouldn't be over-used, but these function pointers would be veeery cumbersome without 00.46.12 # And that's also why I used mixed case - to indicate that it's something unusual 00.46.22 # I did so in the grayscale lib as well 00.46.27 # and hungarian notation is forever banned in my world 00.46.43 # Hmm, hungarian notation? 00.46.48 # hm? the sString nInt thing? 00.46.52 # the "t" prefix 00.46.55 # tType 00.46.59 # or t_type 00.47.25 # LinusN: How would you suggest to call it then? 00.47.40 # good night 00.47.41 # lcd_pixelfunc? 00.47.50 # time to enjoy some music and read a book... and sleep :) 00.48.24 # nite t0mas 00.48.43 # LinusN: That might be misleading, because there is also an array of those function pointers, and it will be exposed in the plugin api 00.49.03 # ...to allow plugin library functions like lcd_filltriangle() 00.49.13 # why is it confusing? 00.49.26 # One could think this is actually a function 00.49.33 # ...or something like that 00.49.44 # then he should read a book about c 00.49.56 # i can't imagine a context where i can mistake i typedef for a function 00.50.04 # a 00.50.15 # There are some typedefs concerning the file functions, they're called like xyz_type 00.50.26 # i can live with that 00.51.09 # lcd_pixelfunc_type? 00.51.30 # definitely beats tLolFunc, yes 00.51.31 # sounds good 00.51.50 # I'll change that, and fix the fm builds 00.51.53 # btw do you think a function pointer is faster than a switch? 00.52.19 # Yes, especially as they're called multiple times after being dereferenced 00.52.27 # of course 00.52.28 # i think they most definitely are 00.53.59 # but how often are they dereferenced directly? 00.54.25 # aren't you supposed to use the lcd_drawpixel() function? 00.54.55 # lcd_drawpixel() is the only function that dereferences it and then uses it only once 00.55.27 # i see 00.55.53 # There are pixel functions for single pixels; these are used for pixels and free lines only 00.56.26 # For all other primitives there are block functions which deal with whole pixel blocks equalling a framebuffer byte 00.56.49 # oki 00.57.19 Quit Aison ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.72 :: www.XLhost.de )") 00.58.19 # ...and lcd_fillrect does a special optimisation using memset() when applicable 00.58.30 # amiconn: yellow! yellow! yellow! :-) 00.58.37 # I know... 00.58.43 # [00:51:51] I'll change that, and fix the fm builds 00.59.14 Join muesli- [0] (muesli_tv@hmln-d9b8e196.pool.mediaWays.net) 01.00.57 # re girls 01.01.25 # k, k, something tells me the speex fixed point port isn't finished 01.06.54 # hai = (engl. shark) preglow ;) 01.08.22 # amiconn: nice graphics lib stuff... looking REALLY nice 01.08.33 Nick elinenbe|sleepin is now known as elinenbe|sleptto (elinenbe_@207-237-225-9.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 01.08.47 Nick elinenbe|sleptto is now known as elinenbe_ (elinenbe_@207-237-225-9.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 01.09.24 # Thanks :) 01.10.30 # Next steps are (1) convert lcd_bitmap(), (2) apply all that stuff to the remote lcd driver, (3) Switch to 4-grey mode on iriver 01.11.02 # (4) adapt player graphics library, (5) rework greyscale lib 01.11.05 # yeah, gray rulez :D 01.11.21 # (6) add extra functions to the plugin lib 01.11.32 # it's very promising amiconn :) 01.11.38 # (7) add solid mode to cube.c, like ipodlinux 01.11.57 # (8) get a life :-) 01.12.09 # (9) celebrating amiconn 01.12.53 # all this needed lot of works good luck amiconn ;) 01.14.14 # amiconn: looks really good 01.14.17 # muesli-: i fail to see why you're educating me in my own language... 01.14.52 # so, you're german?? 01.14.53 # maybe he meant "hej" 01.14.59 # haha 01.15.19 # tak tak :D 01.15.23 # i didn't get what you meant 01.15.25 # no, i'm norwegian 01.15.28 # and it's "hei" 01.15.29 # LinusN: Something must be wrong with the build error detection scripts 01.15.29 # heh 01.15.43 # The FM builds were only yellow, yet they failed to link... 01.15.46 # amiconn: that's well-known 01.16.04 # so hai its in norwegian shark as well? 01.16.16 # muesli: yup 01.16.22 # kewl... 01.17.01 # i have the feeling german and all scandinavian languages are quit similar 01.17.04 # norwegian and german do have a ton of simiular words 01.17.05 # LinusN: There will be no more typedefs than these 2, but the definitions will be a little different for 4-grey mode 01.17.26 # i see 01.17.46 # norwegian also has a ton of german words we inherited from trade with germans, heh 01.18.09 # some uk's here? 01.18.20 # or any other english natives? 01.18.37 # i'm half english-native :> 01.18.47 # LinusN: Maybe I need to duplicate the defs for iriver, because the remote is b&w while the main lcd is not, once I get to that 01.18.55 # does "zukunftsangst" make sense to somebody? 01.19.25 # amiconn: probably 01.19.39 # muesli: well, i know what it means... 01.20.55 # thats one of three german words which were not possible to translate... 01.21.17 # amiconn: i expect you to get through that list by the end of the weekend :) 01.21.33 # elinenbe: Not really 01.21.35 # no, i kid... probably by the end of the week! 01.22.25 Join rasher [0] (~3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) 01.22.43 # cheers rasher 01.22.50 # evening.. 01.23.24 # LinusN: Forgot to remove some now-unused #defines... 01.23.33 # So.. the matrix plugin (http://rasher.dk/rockbox/) behaves differently in the sim - correctly! 01.23.41 # which confuses me 01.24.44 # Anyone have any ideas what might be different? On the iriver the animation just scrolls a few lines, then goes blank (no lines appear), in the sim, it continues 01.25.21 # On Tuesday, the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati turned the playing field for digital sampling completely upside-down. The court ruled quite simply that any and all samples used must paid for, even if they sound completely different from their original. Previously, if a digital sample wasn't identifiable from it's original it was perfectly legal. 01.26.00 # well, if it isn't identifiable, good luck proving any use 01.26.07 # rasher: what's different with the rockbox on yout site? 01.26.31 # rasher: the allegation alone can stop music from ever being released 01.26.42 # elinenbe: nothing really.. a couple of extra fonts, and the matrix plugin - plus it's outdated 01.26.45 # lawyers ain't cheap 01.26.49 # (by a few hours) 01.26.56 # (or half a day, more like) 01.27.05 # cincinatti? 01.27.23 # americans are already digging themselves deep 01.27.27 # i'll just let them continue 01.27.45 # ah 01.28.43 # oh, and I changed the icon of .rockbox files to an iriver-i! 01.29.04 # rasher: boooh! 01.29.22 # well having a 6x7 pixel archos jukebox didn't seem very appropriate either 01.29.47 # Then we need a rockbox icon... 01.30.00 # http://www.rasher.dk/rockbox/icons-6x7/ has an Rb 01.30.03 # but it's not very readable 01.30.45 # Btw, I never thought that something should symbolise an archos 01.31.04 # Isn't that the idea? 01.31.09 # looks like one to me 01.31.48 # it's an X for eXecutable, iirc 01.32.18 # Might be an archos, but then it is a player or rec v1 01.32.28 # That's what I thought 01.32.32 # That's not suited for the other archoses either 01.32.38 # funny, i've never really looked that closely 01.33.36 # anyway, the filename was .iriver, soooo 01.35.28 # Ugh, speed mode in cube.rock looks really funny on iriver 01.36.18 # it almost looks like a solid shape 01.36.24 # or at least a wireframe shape 01.36.53 # In speed mode you can't recognise much... 01.37.04 # Start cube, press select 01.37.20 # if you have it rotated the right way, and only rotating along one axis 01.37.27 # it looks like a wireframe shape 01.37.27 Join darthmall [0] (~dan@c-67-173-38-160.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 01.38.03 # elinenbe should know about the icon: http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/apps/recorder/icons.c?r1=1.19&r2=1.20 01.38.22 # well, except that it was 2,5 years ago 01.39.37 # will go 2 bed..g'night matey 01.39.41 # mates 01.42.06 # think i'll join you in that 01.42.12 # my head feels like it's bloody exploding 01.42.16 # later all 01.42.26 Part preglow 01.42.44 # Whatever happened to the rockblox patch? 01.43.32 # i worked on it, but got other things to do, and forgot about it 01.44.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.45.25 # haha, the patch changes the entire file 01.48.08 Join Tomhab [0] (~tom@195-149-28-141.gotadsl.co.uk) 01.48.13 Part Tomhab 01.48.27 # LinusN: Btw, my new routines have full clipping support 01.48.33 # nice 01.49.21 Quit Moos ("Bye ALL") 01.53.09 Quit muesli- (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.55.21 # time to sleep 01.55.23 # nite all 01.55.35 Part LinusN 01.55.58 Quit Cassandra ("If I were actually witty, this quitline would be funny.") 01.56.20 Quit darthmall () 02.01.35 # filltriangle! 02.03.37 # rasher: Yes, I have planned that for the plugin lib 02.03.48 # I already have a working implementation 02.03.57 # (For testing only) 02.05.38 # fun, this mouse claims that its wheel and middle-button won't work outside of Windows 02.05.45 # yet it works just dandy under Linux 02.06.15 # Perhaps it's an indoor-only mouse? ;-) 02.06.23 # Bog-standard HID mouse.. 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elinenbe_ [0] (elinenbe_@207-237-225-9.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 06.51.37 # hardeep: nice work on the new playlisting options... you should add them to the wiki! 06.52.22 # i figure the less the document the less chances someone reports bugs 06.56.40 Quit Stryke` ("Friends don't let friends listen to Anti-Flag") 06.56.55 Quit DMJC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.57.42 Join DMJC-L [0] (~DMJC-L@60-240-221-18.tpgi.com.au) 06.59.38 Join DMJC [0] (~DMJC@60-240-221-18.tpgi.com.au) 07.19.25 # interesting, my changes caused a compiler error on the gmini 120 build... woo 07.19.54 # internal compiler error that is 07.27.58 Quit kenshin (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 07.44.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.45.30 Quit hardeep ("[BX] Bob Barker uses BitchX. Have your BitchX spayed or neutered.") 08.31.11 Quit DMJC-L ("Leaving") 08.45.25 Join kenshin [0] (~dave@c-24-17-8-193.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 08.47.12 Quit t0mas (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.53.33 Join tvelocity [0] (~tony@ipa34.1.tellas.gr) 09.01.56 Quit tvelocity ("Leaving") 09.27.30 # anyone here good with UNIX command line stuff? I'm looking for a way to capture internet radio feeds on a schedule 09.27.58 # Some of my favorite shows come on when I'm at work or asleep, and all the stations I listen to have web feeds 09.28.31 # I'd like to cron the downloads. I can start them, but I can't end them on a schedule 09.30.04 # Just gracefully kill the parent process you have started 09.30.30 # how can I do that within a cron? 09.30.58 # you have to schedule different entries for "start task" and "stop task" 09.30.58 # by hand, I'd just ^C or pkill processname 09.31.08 # Or maybe you could use at for that 09.31.28 # the problem is passing the correct pid 09.31.47 # ah, hmm 09.32.06 # you have many processes with the same program name? 09.32.25 # if two shows overlapped, yes 09.33.24 # yes, that might require some scripting.. take a look at man at if that command could end the processes (i am not sure) 09.33.42 # at would be clumsy 09.35.28 # in fact i have an example C program that i wrote a long time ago. It kills a processes after selected timeout 09.38.14 # morning 09.39.05 # can't you set each job up in order? 09.39.16 # that way you know what belongs to what? 09.40.10 # Plugh_: http://ihme.org/~miipekk/timeoutkill.c, it's just an "example code" so it's full of crap you might want to remove :) But it should work 09.40.27 # Slasheri: Did you have a look at hardeep's commit? It seems you will need to add something to playback.c to make it work on iriver 09.40.50 # amiconn: Hmm, checking 09.41.31 # Hmm, the latest commit? 09.41.52 # The 04:46 GMT 09.41.56 # ah 09.42.47 # it doesn't work on iriver? 09.43.01 # Does it call audio_flush_and_reload_tracks? 09.43.16 # He did something in mpeg.c, but mpeg.c is archos only 09.43.30 Quit kenshin (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.44.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.45.49 # Hmm.. We should find the problem, i can't say yet what might be wrong 09.46.35 Join DangerousDan [0] (~Miranda@194.22.60.59) 10.03.44 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 10.05.42 Join t0mas [0] (~Tomas@ip503c08d1.speed.planet.nl) 10.10.01 # Hmm, does somebody have any 22 kHz mp3/ogg file? 10.10.41 # yes 10.10.45 # I have one 10.10.50 # great, could you send one? :) 10.10.55 # yes 10.10.58 # good :) 10.12.00 # thanks 10.12.10 # hm 10.12.18 # might take some time... bittorrent is uploading too :) 10.12.31 # hehe, no problem. almost here :) 10.13.29 # done :) 10.14.06 # (fyi, it's a dutch cabaret song :)) 10.14.09 # i have almost the dsp stuff working, now testing resampling 10.14.13 # :D 10.14.35 # have you cvs updated lately? 10.14.46 # nope.. i might update today 10.14.47 # preglow made some upsampling work... 10.14.53 # so it already plays this 10.14.58 # yes, i am moving that to dsp 10.15.14 # mp3 files has no a better performance too 10.15.21 # *now 10.15.43 # ok 10.16.34 # Slasheri: Did you disable libmad dithering? 10.16.51 # i have moved it to dsp, it's configurable 10.17.07 # ci->configure(DSP_DITHER, (bool *)true); 10.17.28 # Okay, nice 10.17.32 # :) 10.17.36 # Gtg, cu 10.17.44 # bye 10.17.52 Part amiconn 10.25.56 Join Aison [0] (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 10.35.43 Join jwalk [0] (~jwalk_edm@67.71.173.234) 10.37.08 Quit jwalk (Client Quit) 10.56.45 Join kenshin [0] (~dave@c-24-17-8-193.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 11.22.21 # oh. bittorrent. 11.22.28 # hrm. 11.22.35 # 12 hours remaining :/ 11.23.08 Join preglow [0] (~81f18ab7@labb.contactor.se) 11.23.17 # *sniffle* 11.24.47 # m? 11.24.47 # Slasheri: i think dithering should be a setting as well, so one can determine if the codecs that are asking for it should get it 11.24.57 # i for one can't hear much of a difference 11.25.10 # my cold has escalated over the night 11.25.13 # my life is pure joy 11.25.30 # ewwww. I hate that 11.25.59 # * HCl prods insomnia 11.26.07 # with good reason 11.26.36 # I'll be fine at work then wake up next day and it'll have taken hold 11.27.03 # haha 11.27.23 # doesn't help that I have at least a couple of hundred people breathing on me over the course of the night 11.27.31 # i'd guess not 11.27.40 # I work in nightclubs 11.27.44 # you can imagine.... 11.27.51 # hahah, that's destined to help lots, yes 11.28.46 # because I know how flithy people are, I no longer touch anything in a public bathroom with my bare hands. Always get paper towel 11.28.51 # preglow: Hmm, good idea 11.29.08 # preglow: btw, can i use your resampler to 16 bit samples? 11.30.45 # here's a question for you actually; in public toilets, who's messier? Men or women? 11.31.08 # men 11.31.13 # nope 11.31.18 # drunken man for sure :P 11.31.29 # slasheri: dithering should be the last to happen 11.31.32 # men do more disgusting things but women are messier overall 11.32.05 # I swear women get toilet paper and have streamer parties 11.32.35 # slasheri: we will very probably use more advanced resampling in the future, and if we do that directly on 16 bit data, we'll lose a lot of precision 11.33.06 # preglow: hmm, ok. So 16 bit data should be scaled to 24/32 bits first? 11.34.14 # yeah, it really should, i guess 11.34.19 # good :) 11.34.21 # we might want to decide on some internal format 11.34.26 # like perhaps 24 bits 11.34.51 # actually, the most foul thing anybody's done at work would be getting REALLY drunk, going to the toilet, not makin git and taking a dump in your underpants with them halfway down then vomitting into them and leaving them on teh floor. Had a male AND a female do that one so maybe "most disgusting" is equal 11.34.53 # anyway 11.35.26 # ahahah 11.35.54 # my god, you have won then 11.36.06 # if you achieve that, you're humankinds finest 11.36.15 # haha. definitely 11.36.43 # last niht we had a 130kg fat guy refuse to walk so we had to drag him down the rap and out onto the footpath 11.36.51 #