--- Log for 08.07.105 Server: brown.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 27 days and 22 hours ago 00.00.32 # alxcm - did it work? 00.02.48 # stripwax_: trying to find fwupdate now 00.02.59 # plus i need to find official firmware, since i don't have that lying around 00.03.04 # it should be in the latest build, no? 00.03.42 # hmm? official firmware comes from iriver's website. fwupdate? you mean fwpatcher? 00.03.52 # whoops, ya 00.04.01 # can you give me the links? 00.04.29 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot#Download_and_extract_the_firmwar 00.04.30 # Well I can give you this line :=p http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot 00.04.38 # that helps 00.04.40 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@p54BD7077.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.04.52 # i just got the 120 firmware from iriver 00.05.28 Join ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-123-46.VIC.netspace.net.au) 00.05.48 # yay, i don't have wine installed 00.05.56 # * alxcm compiles 00.06.25 # oh shoot 00.06.29 # this is gonna take forever 00.06.35 # *sigh* rebooting to windows... 00.06.40 # stripwax_: Just leave the win32 sim by closing the window, like any windows app 00.06.42 # brb 00.06.43 Quit alxcm ("leaving") 00.06.47 # Alt+F4 should work too 00.07.04 # alxcm - if you trust me, I can send you the patched firmware. i'm using 1.65 EU 00.07.18 Quit webguest00 ("CGI:IRC") 00.07.36 # The soft simulator 'powerdown' from rockbox does only work for the platforms which don't have software poweroff 00.07.45 # ...i.e. player and recorder v1 00.08.13 # amiconn - so no way to test the save-bookmark-on-poweroff option on simulator (for example)? why no soft off in the simulator 00.08.29 # <]RowaN[> is there a way i can do a screengrab from my iriver to pc? 00.08.49 # ]RowaN[ you mean from the simulator, or from the real iriver? do you own a flatbed scanner? :-p 00.09.04 # <]RowaN[> well that certainly answers my question 00.09.05 # stripwax_: Simply because no one nade it work yet 00.09.12 # I don't think it's important 00.09.14 # amiconn ah gotcha. thx 00.09.22 # It's an UI simulator, not an exact emulator 00.09.26 # i know. 00.09.44 # ]RowaN[: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ScreenDump 00.10.08 Join alxcm [0] (~alx@68-232-83-247.chvlva.adelphia.net) 00.10.15 # Bagder: Ah, good thing I made it work for greyscale ;) 00.10.16 # anywayness 00.10.18 # Bagder - ooh, didn't know about that! 00.10.20 # back in windows 00.10.26 # amiconn: indeed! 00.11.44 # Firmware patched successfully 00.11.45 # :-D 00.12.46 # nice 00.13.08 # yup 00.13.19 # daily build extracted, now copying all over to ihp120 00.13.57 # * Bagder does the drumroll 00.14.00 # haha this is hilarious 00.14.07 # <]RowaN[> Bagder: that page doesnt say where the .bmp is saved to 00.14.08 # windows doesn't recognize the iriver 00.14.14 # <]RowaN[> ah the root 00.14.19 # feel free to update 00.14.24 # lolololol 00.14.28 # ok, linux time 00.14.46 # * alxcm hits the power button to avoid winserver2k3 crap about logs 00.15.11 # alxcm - logs? it's probably just moaning that you keep hitting the power button :-) 00.15.54 # * Bagder hits the bed 00.16.06 # lol 00.16.20 # no, windows server 2k3 demands you log reasons for shutdown/startup 00.16.28 # which is kind of stupid, especially on my laptop 00.16.50 # alxcm - turn that off. http://www.windowsnetworking.com/articles_tutorials/Disable-Shutdown-Event-Tracker-Windows-2003.html 00.16.58 # oh, cool 00.17.07 # i don't use windows enough to care, tho 00.17.14 # Slasheri: Playback still stops prematurely on the last track 00.17.23 # you don't use windows often but you have server 2003?!? 00.17.45 # yeah 00.17.48 # hmmm 00.17.55 # i get it free from school 00.18.00 # so what the heck 00.18.02 # Server 2003 on a laptop doesn't make much sense to me either 00.18.17 # <]RowaN[> www.copymaster.co.uk/rowans_wps.gif hehe look at my crappy wps =] 00.18.21 # well, it IS more stable then all others 00.18.23 # me either, XP Tablet Editon way nicer :-) 00.18.37 # ]RowaN[ - hehe, nice 00.18.41 # and my laptop is easily my fastest comp 00.18.47 # alxcm: I can't see a difference in stability against XP pro 00.18.48 Quit elinenbe_ (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 00.18.49 # i use it for fansubbing and stuff 00.18.51 # <]RowaN[> are greyscale wps images supported yet? 00.19.50 # NOW it's drumroll time 00.19.54 # are greyscale fonts supported yet? :-) 00.19.59 # * alxcm unplugs iriver 00.20.36 # flashing... 00.21.03 # stripwax_: No, there are no routines for that 00.21.08 # rebooting... 00.21.12 # amiconn ok 00.21.33 # You can use the fonts with any foreground and background shade though 00.21.35 # YAY FOR ROCKBOX 00.21.43 # amiconn yes 00.22.08 # alxcm - working out alright then? 00.22.15 # beautifully 00.22.25 # incidentally, how do i boot back to iriver firmware? 00.22.36 # hold down REC while turning on 00.22.41 # cool 00.22.45 # * alxcm goes to test 00.22.57 # alxcm - after a while you'll probably find you no longer need to :-) 00.23.10 Quit Febs ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.4/20050511]") 00.23.19 # after a while? i'm never going back there again 00.23.37 # hehe 00.23.55 # wow this is beautiful 00.23.58 # thx for your help 00.24.02 # * alxcm goes to enjoy 00.24.55 # <]RowaN[> i still didnt manage to find a font editor for rockbox fonts, that wasnt only available as experimental proof of concept source code which you need to isntall 20 differernt programs just to get it working 00.25.24 # ]RowaN[ hmm.. that sucks 00.26.18 Join elinenbe_ [0] (elinenbe_@207-237-225-9.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 00.29.42 # * stripwax_ wonders how hard a font editor could really be.. 00.31.54 # ]RowaN[ can you download FontForge binaries for your platform? 00.33.03 # Extended bmp2rb committed :) 00.33.37 # amiconn - extended how? 00.33.48 # greyscale? 00.34.13 # Guess how I created the 4-grey rockbox logo? 00.34.19 Join muesli- [0] (muesli_tv@c-180-36-4.h.dial.de.ignite.net) 00.34.25 # <]RowaN[> hmm viewer for windows.. http://crl.nmsu.edu/~mleisher/bdfviewer.exe 00.34.31 # * ]RowaN[ googles FontForge 00.34.35 # It just needed some more testing; that's why I didn't commit earlier 00.34.57 # re 00.35.29 # amiconn - i just assumed you used a hexeditor :-) 00.35.48 # rofl 00.36.06 # <]RowaN[> fontforge wants me to install Cygwin.. which provides a linux like environment? and ive never (had to) use linux in my life 00.36.33 # Fontforge needs cygwin on windows, yes 00.36.37 # ]RowaN[ - ahhh.. cygwin's good but, if you don't already have it/use it, it's kinda overkill for just running a font editor. 00.36.42 Quit Harpy (Connection timed out) 00.36.51 # <]RowaN[> nothings easy these days is it 00.37.06 # I use the predecessor pfaedit, works nicely 00.37.08 # ]RowaN[ - BDF is kinda a unix font format anyway, so thems the breaks. 00.37.21 # <]RowaN[> in my day we had "standalone" executables 00.37.23 # (also on cygwin) 00.38.13 # ]RowaN[ - but fontforge is not written for Windows, so ... 00.40.46 # ]RowaN[ - you know, there's a gap in the market for a Windows executable that edits unix-style BDF fonts ... 00.40.48 Quit muesli- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.41.58 # er uh, you shouldn't need more than a runtime lib or two to run a cygwin-compiled binary on windows generally 00.42.25 # oh wait i guess if it's something for X then that makes it a big hassle 00.42.27 # cygwin1.dll 00.42.44 # needing the X server and all 00.42.52 # Ah yes, the x11 server... 00.46.31 # .. download fontforge for cygwin 00.46.38 # ^downloading .... 00.47.33 # <]RowaN[> if u get it working tell me how please =] 00.50.51 # Good. Picked up a cheap player on eBay for 25 quid. 00.51.02 # Now all I need is an Ondio and my collection is complete. ;) 00.51.17 # Really 00.51.18 # ? 00.51.30 # No charger. 00.51.42 # I have universal chargers. This is not a problem. 00.51.43 # You will need 2 Ondios to have a complete collection, an SP and an FM ;) 00.51.55 Join webguest66 [0] (~53afb0c2@labb.contactor.se) 00.52.09 # Well techinically I'd need a Recorder v1 too, but there's such a thing as going too far. 00.52.25 # I'm half of the opinion that spending 25 quid to get a player is going too far. 00.52.42 # I paid more... 00.52.48 # awesome job 00.52.55 # :-D 00.53.29 # have a few issues with ogg playback (some really bad distortion) and apparently deleting a directory doesn't work, but other than that it looks great 00.54.34 # alxcm: when it tells you to press play press the joystick (while deleting) 00.54.44 # oh, ok 00.54.49 # *tries* 00.55.45 # yay 00.55.55 # any ideas on the ogg decoding? 00.56.09 # it seems to be only encountered with my vorbis-tools for linux encodes 00.56.14 # works fine for me 00.56.17 # my older windows encodes are fine 00.56.23 # hmm 00.56.26 # * alxcm tries something 00.56.34 # alxcm - interesting. do they play ok in linux? ;-) 00.56.54 # not only in linux, but in the orig. iriver firmware as well 00.57.15 # hm, wanna post/email/something those badly-decoding chaps to a willing rockbox dev? 00.57.31 # certainl 00.57.34 # *certainly 00.57.44 # the only thing i can think of is they are rather large 00.57.51 # ~20 mins 00.57.53 # ]RowaN[ - works a charm first time. looks pretty shitting complicated though.. was just expecting a pixel-based simple app 00.57.55 # on some of them 00.57.59 # alxcm eeks. 00.58.29 # * alxcm tries to oggenc a different file 00.58.40 # ]RowaN[ - but it could just be that I have no idea what I'm doing 00.58.48 # alxcm - what oggenc settings 00.58.57 # stripwax_: default 00.59.03 # which is q3 00.59.04 # I seem to be spending money on fripperies today. 00.59.17 # I also spent 3 quid on a CD of George Formby songs. 01.00.12 # hmm, test file worked fine 01.00.17 # lemme reencode one of the bad boys 01.00.58 # <]RowaN[> strippy: are you able to open a font, edit, save? 01.01.41 Quit webguest66 ("CGI:IRC") 01.03.10 # yay for 50% cpu usage 01.03.24 # ]RowaN[ - gotta convert from rb to bdf first .. hang on a sec.. 01.03.50 # oh wait.. clearly, i dont'... 01.05.08 # ]RowaN[ - yep, load bdf, edit, save, all ok. nice n easy 01.05.25 # * stripwax_ thinks it's time to get arty 01.06.02 # <]RowaN[> ooh rite what do i need to install then? 01.07.14 # <]RowaN[> .rb? i only see .bdf and .fnt on www.rockbox.org/fonts 01.07.41 # run http://www.cygwin.com/setup.exe, pick a directory (e.g. c:\cygwin\cygwin) and a packages directory (e.g. c:\cygwin\packages), and install the following: 01.08.16 # stripwax_: just reencoded the file 01.08.23 # seems like its a problem with longer ogg files 01.08.29 # my short ogg encode = fine 01.09.51 # Oh, has anybody else had a problem with resume appearing to work, but the counter going up slowly and no sound? 01.10.01 # I had to turn the unit off and on again to get sound back. 01.10.20 # ]RowaN[ - you probably can get away with just installing the default X11 stuff (whatever it suggests), and also the libiconv from LIBS. 01.10.44 # cygwin sucks :-( 01.11.00 # ]RowaN[ if you change view to 'partial' it'll tell you what it's going to install. If you don't want a component, click under 'new' to cycle it to Skip 01.11.09 # Here's a quarter, kid. Get yourself a real operating system. 01.11.13 # yeah. 01.11.15 # :-D 01.11.17 # ]RowaN[ - .rb? right, like I said, "oh wait, clearly I don't" 01.11.19 # Linux daemon 2.6.12-rc4-mm1-blitz #2 Sat May 28 10:44:06 EST 2005 i686 Pentium III (Katmai) GenuineIntel GNU/Linux 01.11.43 # this is a reiser4 box, too 01.11.55 # NPTL enabled, compiled from scratch 01.12.04 # (Gentoo) 01.12.16 # anyway, martial arts classtime 01.12.17 # ttyal 01.12.23 # * stripwax_ doesn't really see the point in compiling Gentoo entirely from scratch. it's not like P3s are rare 01.12.31 # True H140 pic added to the devicechart, showing the rockbox logo :) 01.13.06 # stripwax_: i did it to get NPTL 01.13.26 # alxcm- you have to recompile everything from scratch to get that?! wow 01.13.29 # I think it's some sort of BSDish "my OS is harder than yours" attitude. ;) 01.13.35 # ;-) 01.13.45 # stripwax_: not to get the libraries, but to make everything use them ,yes 01.14.04 # and Cassandra, i don't set USE="hardened" because i don't see the point 01.14.06 # ;) 01.14.12 # heh 01.14.16 # What's that do then? 01.14.27 # compile hardened sources 01.14.32 # slower but more secure 01.14.43 # I let those nice fellows at Ubuntu compile my OS for me. 01.14.53 # Ubuntu rocks, ya 01.15.25 # but for performance on a p3 550mhz, it doesn't get much better than daemon here 01.15.25 # <]RowaN[> ok im on partial view 01.15.36 # amiconn - were your changes to bmp2rb based on ihpbmp or entirely from scratch 01.15.52 # From scratch 01.16.07 # I don't even know ihpbmp 01.16.31 # amiconn - that's the app i wrote that decodes the iriver firmware and modifies the images . 01.16.38 # ah 01.16.41 # (way back about this time last year..) 01.16.50 # Well, I'd have no use for that 01.17.00 # Except for Rockbox. I hand roll my own from scratch from CVS. But only cause it's quicker than downloading the snapshot. ;) 01.17.01 # I won't use the iriver firmware 01.17.16 # Cassandra: Huh? 01.17.21 # amiconn - well, the bmp -> iriver format conversion code might have come in handy (assuming the format for 4-color rb is the same though) 01.17.40 # rockbox 4-grey uses the internal lcd format. 01.17.43 # Well, maybe it isn't. But it "feels" faster. 01.17.45 # Dunno what iriver uses 01.17.59 # amiconn same as iriver (pretty sure anyway) 01.19.04 # anyway whatever, it's gathering dust here. http://www.beermex.com/@spc/iriver/ihpbmp.src.zip 01.19.41 # ]RowaN[ - installed cygwin yet? 01.20.48 # <]RowaN[> err not yet trying to decipher the options 01.22.53 # amiconn - are there any headers for the rb bitmap format? or does the code require that any given bitmap is in the required format (e.g. can't just mix&match 1-bit and 2-bit bitmaps and expect things to work) 01.23.14 # No headers, just the raw data 01.23.20 # hmm 01.23.58 # 4-grey and monochrome bitmaps are drawn by different functions 01.24.31 # so adding e.g. 4-color bitmap support to wps would mean everyone using that would need to rebuild all their bmps as 4-color? does bmp2rb support rb->rb too? 01.25.06 # amiconn - wow, really? not the samefunction with a different arg passed in (y-pixels-per-byte=4 vs 8)? 01.25.19 # bmp2rb is for generating bitmaps to include in the source code, i.e. char array source 01.25.31 # amiconn ahok 01.26.18 # The bmp loader is entirely separate. It does the same job as bmp2rb, but with different optimisation constarints 01.26.28 # <]RowaN[> strippy: what can i get rid of on partial view? i just went to install it all and its godknowshowbig???Mb 01.27.12 # stripwax_: There are several reasons why the functions are separate 01.27.23 # ]RowaN[ - on Partial, i'd expect to see just a couple of cygwin things, some libs, and the x11 stuff. what have you got? 01.27.53 # amiconn - i'm sure there are! but i'm surprised they don't do effectively the same thing, just with different parameters 01.28.10 # No they don't 01.29.15 # There are different ways to optimise, and also different methods to draw monochrome bitmaps on a 4-grey vs. drawing a native bitmap 01.29.37 Quit markun () 01.30.19 # Monochrome bitmaps are drawn using selectable shades for foreground and background, drawing foreground, background, or both, or draw in xor mode 01.31.05 # <]RowaN[> hmm too much stuff to list 01.31.27 # amiconn - I thought there was still a simple blt function? or is that greyscale only now? 01.31.58 # The blit function can only use native lcd format, so greyscale only 01.32.20 # ami: Is there a lighter grey than the one you use in the background of splash()? I think the current one is too dark. 01.32.28 # The blit function isn't meant for normal graphics, but for special stuff like video etc 01.33.02 # <]RowaN[> EVERYTHING is ticked on parial view 01.33.17 # Cassandra: It's the lighter one of the 2 shades between white & black 01.33.26 # Ah. :( 01.33.30 # ]RowaN[ - well , partial view shows only the things that ARE ticked, so.. yeah... FULL view shows 'everything' 01.33.36 # Cassandra - adjust contrast? 01.33.39 # <]RowaN[> geez 01.33.43 # <]RowaN[> this is a nightmare installer 01.33.47 # The 2 shades are selectable from 6; I selected them so that they are roughly equal-spaced 01.33.51 # ]RowaN[ - you'll get used to it 01.34.08 # amiconn - equal spaced wrt which contrast setting 01.34.27 # amiconn or in other words, are they the same two shades that iriver used? 01.34.33 # The spacing can't be exact, and I voted for the lighter one when between 2 01.34.59 # I dunno what iriver uses, so I can't compare 01.35.49 # The lcd uses 3 bits for the grey level internally, 0..7, with 0 being white and 7 being black 01.35.59 # The 2 shades I used are 2 and 4 01.36.49 # We could add some crude gamma adjustment... 01.37.03 # amiconn - :-) i'm sure that's not worth the effort 01.37.49 # ]RowaN[ - the installer assumes you want to set up a fully functional user/development environment, rather than just the bare basics to run a font editor :-) 01.38.27 # Cassandra: I have contrast set to 28 01.39.10 # * ]RowaN[ gives up 01.40.00 # gnight all, way past my bed time ;-) 01.40.13 # <]RowaN[> cya 01.40.18 Part stripwax_ 01.42.35 Quit Aison ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.72 :: www.XLhost.de )") 01.43.27 Join webguest74 [0] (~51429ed6@labb.contactor.se) 01.43.36 # hello all 01.44.32 # i just reading in the patch tracker that there is a i2c patch 01.44.51 # it's for FM, no? 01.45.22 # webguest74: i believe so, yes 01.45.27 # but it's not complete 01.45.41 # a ok 01.45.51 # anybody work on it 01.46.24 # hardeep: you'r the playlist specialist, no? 01.47.30 # i noticed with the lastests builds, the playlist mode have few nugs for iriver 01.47.37 # *bugs 01.48.02 # if i do a dynamical playlist there are few bugs 01.48.18 # but probably playback problem, no? 01.48.38 # webguest74: depends on the bugs 01.49.00 # what are you seeing? 01.49.26 # i inserted one song for the first, and i added few songs randomly 01.49.55 # but the tracks go to next without i touch nothing 01.49.59 Join bg [0] (~chatzilla@24-241-230-113.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) 01.50.14 # and it don't start to start of the track 01.50.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.50.35 # and the WPS screen it's not synchrone with the songs 01.50.43 # very strange behaviours 01.51.07 # can you reproduce this easily? 01.51.10 # yes me too 01.51.13 # im trying to compile rockbox... im missing a dependency, m68k-elf-gcc. What package do I need to install to satisfy this dependency? 01.51.17 # exctaly this 01.51.40 # i'll trythis now 01.51.54 # for me it's the same 01.51.57 # bg: you need to build the m68k cross compiler 01.52.04 # bg: instructions on web page 01.52.18 # ok... you wouldnt happen to know if gentoo's portage has an ebuild for that package would you? 01.52.31 # bg: i don't believe so 01.52.33 # hardeep: i reported this to Slasheri 01.52.43 # hardeep: thanks 01.52.57 # Moos: yeah, it's likely a playback bug but i just wanted to be sure 01.53.02 # hardeep thanks for i2c infos 01.53.07 # bye all 01.53.22 Quit webguest74 ("CGI:IRC") 01.53.33 # Moos: next time you see it, please grab a copy of the /.rockbox/.playlist_control file 01.53.42 # hardeep: i testing this 01.54.13 Quit bg (Client Quit) 01.57.52 # hardeep: strange apear it's randomly i can't reproduce it 02.00.55 # it spinup a lot 02.01.09 # lot of hd access 02.01.37 # Moos: yeah, every time you insert a track it has to reload the tracks 02.01.45 # ok 02.02.09 # we can probably optimize this, but lets get it working correctly first. =) 02.02.18 # indeed :) 02.02.48 # just i don't remenber this behaviours few days old : 02.02.51 # :) 02.05.07 # can't reproduce the bug that webguest reported nevertheless i already met it 02.16.05 # time to go to bed, Hardeep the last time i see this bug or other i'll send you the copy of playlist_controle file 02.16.12 # good night all 02.16.29 Part Moos 02.26.15 Join amiconn_ [0] (~jens@p54BD5E75.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.33.53 Quit CheeseBurgerMan (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.35.28 Quit ]RowaN[ () 02.41.17 Join muesli- [0] (muesli_tv@Bc122.b.pppool.de) 02.41.39 # re 02.43.53 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.43.53 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (~jens@p54BD5E75.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.47.38 Quit cYmen_ ("zZz") 03.11.20 Quit godzirra (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.21.17 Quit Sucka ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") 03.24.26 Quit ghostiger (Remote closed the connection) 03.24.32 Quit hardeep ("BitchX: the ONLY IRC client on Viagra!") 03.35.32 Quit muesli- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.37.59 Quit hicks (Remote closed the connection) 03.49.03 Join Wat [0] (~Tuck@pool-141-152-53-143.rich.east.verizon.net) 03.49.25 # hi 03.50.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.05.29 Join QT [0] (as@area51.users.madwifi) 04.06.29 Join CheeseBurgerMan [0] (~me@63.150.80.229) 04.15.45 # i want to help develop for rockbox... will java knowledge be enough? 04.22.19 Quit QT_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.29.19 Part DaKi][er 04.43.01 Join StrathAFK [0] (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a237.wi.tds.net) 04.48.15 Quit Wat () 05.01.38 Quit Strath (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.17.22 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@norge.freeshell.org) 05.36.02 Quit RotAtoR () 05.50.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.52.54 Quit thegeek (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.00.49 Join webguest59 [0] (~d3fa859f@labb.contactor.se) 06.02.23 Quit hardeep ("[BX] *SUBLIMINAL*MESSAGE* USE BITCHX *SUBLIMINAL*MESSAGE*") 06.03.15 Quit webguest59 (Client Quit) 06.16.41 Join edster [0] (~edster@dsl017-049-209.sfo4.dsl.speakeasy.net) 06.17.03 Join eleom [0] (eleom@211.250.133.159) 06.18.08 # is there anyone who can help me? I'm going to make language pack rockbox in korean 06.19.08 Quit eleom (Client Quit) 06.24.15 Quit ashridah (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.25.53 Join ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-121-59.VIC.netspace.net.au) 06.28.16 Join Coldtoast [0] (edan@ppp111-3.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net) 06.28.21 # howdy 06.28.28 # how good's FLAC support now? 06.28.35 # on iriver 07.00.05 Join _Mark [0] (~fake@40-218.207-68.tampabay.res.rr.com) 07.01.30 Join webguest61 [0] (~da50cd82@labb.contactor.se) 07.05.06 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 07.16.37 Quit webguest61 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 07.20.43 Join [1]ep0ch [0] (~ep0ch@81-6-218-187.gotadsl.co.uk) 07.31.52 # Hey anyone know where i can find the exact color values for the greyscale? 07.36.33 Quit ep0ch (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.36.34 Nick [1]ep0ch is now known as ep0ch (~ep0ch@81-6-218-187.gotadsl.co.uk) 07.39.16 # amiconn I dunno what iriver uses, so I can't compare 07.39.17 # amiconn The lcd uses 3 bits for the grey level internally, 0..7, with 0 being white and 7 being black 07.39.17 # amiconn The 2 shades I used are 2 and 4 07.39.35 # that's as close as you'll get 07.43.38 Quit courtc (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07.49.41 # Yeah but i need the values, eg #FFFFFF is black (or white :P) 07.50.11 # I wrote this wiki page a logn while ago, just wondering if its still the same: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxGraphicalUIDesign 07.50.18 # *long 07.50.30 # i have no idea, you'd have to ask amiconn 07.50.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.50.53 # Also, I've made a custom WPS, but upon reboot it reverts back to default. I thought i read that once a WPS is loaded it stays loaded. 07.53.29 # DJ_Dooms_Day: put it in .rockbox 07.53.45 Join courtc [0] (~courtc@adsl-158-8-171.asm.bellsouth.net) 07.53.59 # and the file name must be less than 24 chars long 07.54.39 # ah, thanks 07.57.08 # Linus do you know anything about WPS coding? 07.57.14 # some 07.58.00 Join B4gder [0] (~dast@static-213-115-255-230.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se) 07.59.04 # Well, i've made a few conditionals that once the 'next song' data is found will display it, but before that i have the message 'retrieving next song data...'. Now it all works fine but when the data is finally retrieved the message doesn't go away, the song info gets written over the top of it. 08.00.07 # So for example it'll say on the top line: 'ACDCeving next song data' 08.01.35 # Though, once the next song data is loaded a second time (after the first time its instantanious) the info is properly refreshed 08.01.54 Join [2]ep0ch [0] (~ep0ch@84.12.62.170) 08.02.25 # hey, iriver ninjas! 08.02.43 # is there a device called "iHP-100"? 08.02.54 # o_O 08.03.03 # What? 08.03.03 # damn, there is 08.03.10 # oh crappo 08.05.31 # wasn't the 100 a 10GB version of it? or was that a 110? 08.05.48 Nick StrathAFK is now known as Strath (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a237.wi.tds.net) 08.05.54 Quit _Mark (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 08.06.55 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 08.08.34 # ok, my H110 has "iHP-100" printed on it 08.08.48 # so, is there a "H110" out there? 08.09.16 # Well my iHP-140 has exactly that on it, if it makes any difference :P 08.09.51 # "iHP-140"? 08.10.03 # mine is a H140 08.10.09 # mine too 08.10.12 # Linus, an iHP-100 is a H110, and a iHP-140 is a H140 08.10.27 # They changed the names a little 08.10.32 # the i is gone 08.10.40 # and the P? 08.10.46 # that too 08.10.55 # so, is there a H115? 08.11.00 # nop 08.11.05 # or iHP-115 08.11.09 # theres a 120 i think 08.11.20 # Theres no such thing as iHP at all, any more. 08.11.30 # Check the iriver website 08.11.33 # well, the h100 is old 08.11.42 # it was the first, so it was called ihp back then 08.11.57 # DJ_Dooms_Day: i'm trying to sort out what models are out there 08.12.18 # Theres no such thing as a H100 either i dont think. The 10GB one is now the H110. The only thing a H100 is, is the 'series' of player. 08.12.30 # http://www.epinions.com/pr-iRiver_iHP-115_MP3_Player 08.12.58 # Ah, well there we go. 08.13.16 # ok, so there is one 08.13.44 # oh, shit, it seems there are H110's out there too 08.13.53 # Linus, though that model was discontinued very quickly 08.14.02 # LinusN: you mean as in not iHP-110 ? 08.14.16 # as in not "iHP-100" 08.14.17 # The H100 is the ultimate digital audio player. Listen to over 1,200(H140)/600(H120)/300(H110) hours of your music or tune in to the built-in FM radio. 08.14.28 # Straight from the iriver site 08.14.37 # they dont do the 15GB anymore 08.14.50 # we don't talk about what they do 08.14.53 # but that they did 08.15.16 # a rockbox user must know which version ti install 08.15.20 # to 08.15.35 # and rockbox code need to know how to ajust for targets 08.15.50 # Ok, well then theres iHP-100 (H110), iHP-115 (H115), iHP-120 (H120), iHP-140 (H140) 08.16.10 # really? 08.16.12 # Yep 08.16.21 # was the iHP-100 ever called H110? 08.16.56 # Not at the start. Iriver now call all the H-1xx's the H100 series 08.17.23 # Same with the new ones, all H-3xx's are the H300 series 08.17.36 # the question is, are there players out there with "H110" on them instead of "iHP-100"? 08.17.39 # so they call them that, but no unit is marked like that? 08.17.46 # There is no such thing as a H100 or H300 player. 08.18.34 # No, there is NO player that has the model 'H100' printed on it. However there will be 'iHP-100' printed on some. 08.18.39 # * LinusN asks in the mr forum 08.18.41 # But, you may want to double check that 08.18.56 # Thats the way i saw it though 08.19.43 Quit ep0ch (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.19.44 Nick [2]ep0ch is now known as ep0ch (~ep0ch@84.12.62.170) 08.22.48 # you think the h100 has the same adc setup has the h120? 08.22.59 # yes 08.23.18 # i think the only major difference to rockbox is the sdram setup 08.23.42 # we'll soon find out, when i brick my h110 in a few minutes :-) 08.23.53 # hehe 08.24.11 # I'll setup a h100 cvs build 08.24.42 # that'll cause some confusion me guess 08.25.19 # oh yes 08.26.08 # Is there really that much difference between the players? 08.26.11 # I'll commit my fixes first 08.27.17 # I thought it'd just be the HDD diff 08.27.30 # there's more than that 08.28.34 # DJ_Dooms_Day: the h110 has 16mbytes ram instead of 32 08.28.47 # ah 08.28.56 # and there's something about a mic amp as well 08.29.00 # no emu for that player then :P 08.29.31 # you mean rockboy? 08.29.45 # yeah 08.29.48 # should work 08.29.56 # or is that mainly CPU dependant? 08.30.34 # in fact, the h110 is probably *slightly* faster than the h120, because the sdram refresh is half the speec 08.30.46 # speed 08.31.21 # and its away 08.32.54 # Wouldn't make that much diff though would it? THe speed of the SDRAM would far outweigh the speed of both CPU and HDD right? 08.35.14 # the refresh frequency does matter at low cpu frequencies, since it eats up a great deal of the ram bandwidth 08.36.17 # but the difference at high frequencies is probably not even noticeable 08.36.18 # Ah, true 08.37.07 # ok, so the daily build is called h120 from tomorrow 08.38.07 # How did you find an H110? 08.38.33 # from rasher afaik 08.38.35 # morning btw 08.38.56 # and rasher found it from other guy 08.38.57 # Morning. 08.39.28 # Wouldn't 3xx support be more useful? 08.39.38 # Cassandra: not to the h100 owners 08.39.49 # They exist? :) 08.39.56 # yes, they do 08.40.09 # * LinusN is one :-) 08.40.22 # * DJ_Dooms_Day Seconds Linus 08.40.35 # i have seen two H110 devices in real life 08.40.43 # I have also been acquiring. I picked up a Player on eBay for 25 quid. 08.40.57 # hehe 08.41.04 # Which should make my life easier. 08.41.52 # Just need an Ondio now and I'll have the set. ;) 08.42.29 # * B4gder feels like there's a who-owns-most-rockbox-devices compo comping up :-) 08.42.31 Join ghostiger [0] (~ghostiger@06461ca33f602e53.session.tor) 08.42.37 # Cassandra: u have a v2? :-) 08.42.45 # Linus wins. 08.42.51 # I have an FM, yes. 08.42.52 # maybe 08.43.11 # I don't have a v1, as it happens. 08.43.19 # jörg has a whole pile of broken archos players though 08.43.31 # But you know, you've gotta draw the line somewhere. 08.43.35 # hehe 08.45.08 # I can't decide whether the new Google toolbar for Firefox is incredibly useful, or a pointless waste of screen real estate. 08.45.37 # or spyware :-) 08.45.54 # Hey im trying to make a WPS background graphic, but im finding it hard to align it all, and figure out where my writing is. Is there something i'm missing? I can't find the appropriate wiki page either. 08.46.29 # www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/Main/CustomWPS 08.47.03 # err 08.47.18 # yeah i have that page 08.47.28 # Theres almsot nothing on creating a graphic 08.47.33 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS 08.48.05 # Image Tag: 08.48.05 # %xn|filename|x|y| 08.48.07 # where: 08.48.09 # etc 08.48.22 # Linus: No, that was the Google web accelerator. 08.48.55 # lol, keyword here Bger is -CREATING-. I know very well how to place the graphic on the WPS. 08.49.28 # All i know is the max width/hieght is 160x128 08.49.28 # DJ_Dooms_Day: just make the image as big as you need 08.49.44 Join JeffMistic [0] (~0c68cc30@labb.contactor.se) 08.50.03 # iHP was the original moniker given to the iriver HDD players 08.50.08 # i know 08.50.23 # they changed to H after Hewlett Packard threatend litigation 08.50.27 # yup 08.50.58 # 60gig drive in my 140 is very sweet!! 08.51.01 # hehe 08.51.08 # heh, yeah but how in gods name can i trace around the info i already have on the WPS? Trial and error? I thought there might have been another way, or atleast figuring out where the lines are 08.51.15 # now i've got lots of room for rockbox goodies 08.51.26 # heh nice Jeff 08.51.47 # the real question is: could there be 120/140 devices out there marked "iHP-100"? 08.52.00 # Yes Linus 08.52.02 # or "H100" 08.52.02 # There are 08.52.06 # as far as i know, no 08.52.22 # The 10GB irivers were iHP-100's i believe 08.52.25 # in the U.S. all players were iHP-120, iHP-140, H120, H140 08.52.50 # i have a H110 marked "iHP-100" 08.53.05 # There 08.53.18 # yes, but the 20 and 40 gig were never marked H100 08.53.20 # 10GB irivers were called iHP-100, before the name change 08.53.53 # JeffMistic: if that is true, the user can figure out which rockbox to install based on the numbers alone 08.54.20 # if it's less that 120, it is an older H110 type of device 08.54.39 # Soudns good to me 08.55.12 # Any iriver marked with the number: 100, 110, 150 are the other type of iriver. 08.55.19 # time to refill cup 08.55.30 # there is a serious bricking risk that we need to address 08.56.04 Part JeffMistic 08.56.44 # Linus, though, you may want to be careful because on the back of mine it says 'Model No. iHP-140'. But on the new H series they might have put 'H100 series' on them (even the 20 and 40GB ones) 08.57.59 # i doubt that 08.58.50 # I just checked. Mine only says H140, front and back. 08.58.56 # I don't. In fact i'd say they would have put 'H100 series' on it somewhere. Either way, it should be chgecked out 08.59.04 # Ok, well thats that 08.59.21 # the only risk is that the user patches a H120 firmware with the H100 bootloader 08.59.41 # then they have a brisk 08.59.44 # brick 08.59.52 # so our firmware patcher must handle that 09.00.09 # Why don't you add a MD5 checker to the patcher then? 09.00.31 # That will solve all problems 09.00.38 # there is one already 09.00.42 # phew 09.03.37 # Is there any reason why we couldn't implement left and right screen orientations, as well as up and down? 09.04.06 # there are left and right ones 09.04.38 # Cassandra: ? 09.04.53 # No, I mean like the "upside down" screen mode. 09.05.08 # So you could use the jukebox on its side. 09.05.12 # the upside-down mode is an lcd feature 09.05.22 # Cassandra: it would change the height and width values when rotating 09.05.23 # jusr reversing the scanline order 09.05.34 # Ah, right. 09.05.37 # and we would need rotated fonts 09.05.44 # B4gder: obviously. 09.06.19 # Linus: Couldn't that be done in software? 09.06.48 # (Although I think this idea falls into the 'nifty but essentially useless' category anyway.) 09.07.35 # Just double checking here, but the latest build has greyscale working true? As in a greyscale .bmp in the WPS will be grey? 09.07.43 # DJ_Dooms_Day: no 09.07.55 # no greyscale bmp loading is supported yet 09.08.03 # Damn 09.08.30 # and i can't change the internal graphics without recompiling my self can i? 09.09.19 # That's correct. 09.09.24 # internal means internal, yes 09.09.55 # ...what? o_O 09.10.17 # Ofcoarse internal means internal, thats why i said it. 09.10.33 # * B4gder looks at DJ_Dooms_Day 09.10.36 # * LinusN feels old, he doesn't quite see what o_O is supposed to mean 09.11.33 # Maybe it means "I have a very oddly shaped tape deck". 09.11.36 # Linus, their eyes. Ala i'm lifting my eyebrow in a gesture of 'wtf?' 09.11.41 # lol 09.11.53 # hahaha 09.12.00 # ah, so the _ is the nose? 09.12.06 # mouth 09.12.11 # no nose :P 09.12.16 # ..just like that smily 09.12.20 # * LinusN cleans his glasses 09.12.23 # I think it is a bike upsidedown 09.12.31 # He's a noseless freak with an oddly shaped tape deck. 09.12.39 # lol 09.12.47 # \o/ 09.12.52 # or a faceless freak with swollen ears 09.13.10 # Or the very top of Mickey Mouse. 09.13.29 # or! A stick man with his arms up? 09.13.58 # hmmm, then what does o_o mean then? 09.14.06 # shock? 09.14.10 # O_O 09.14.17 # ah 09.14.28 # baffled-ness maybe? 09.14.47 # so then -_- means "unconscious"? 09.14.50 # i dunno, use your imagination, you guys seem pretty good at it, your just a little misguided 09.14.53 # haha 09.15.27 # Hey, at least we know how to spell "you're". 09.15.29 # nar thats more like, hrm, a 'DAR!' gesture. 09.15.32 Join einhirn_ [0] (Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.15.36 # Gods I'm getting old. 09.15.53 # heh, 'you're' has never stuck with me 09.16.34 # See, that's the problem with the youth of today. No concept of how to use the English language. 09.16.50 # (That's what they said about my generation, and the one before it too.) 09.17.16 # What makes you think i'm young? 09.17.24 # Your nick. 09.17.39 # heh, thought you'd say that. 09.17.49 # the older you become, the good old days get better and better 09.17.57 # and the way you speak 09.18.08 # Well, thats why i keep this name, for the good old days. 09.18.35 # Really? What do you class as 'young' anyway? What age? 09.18.52 # younger than 36 :-) 09.19.12 # Yay! Linus thinks I'm young. 09.19.19 # hehe 09.19.32 # then I'm young too 09.19.40 # a spoiled kid 09.19.48 # * B4gder jumps and up down screaming 09.20.19 # Based on my name, how old do you think i am? 09.20.25 # 20 09.20.27 # 20 09.20.40 # I'd go with that. 09.20.45 # and I don't mean hex ;-) 09.20.49 # lol 09.20.59 # ha, wow, i would have thought you'd go for around 13s 09.21.29 # Because thats when i made it. But, i'm now 17, going on 18. 09.21.31 # Nah, that'd be DJ_D00m5_DaY. 09.21.35 # haha 09.21.36 # true 09.22.10 # DJ_Dooms_Day: pretty close then 09.22.27 # I was thinking "maybe slightly younger" 09.22.52 # I don't want to change it coz its got too much history behind it. You could probably google me and find out exactly where i live and what i do. :P That could be a bad thing though. 09.23.20 # Cassandra: Sideways lcd mode would essentially require a new set of graphis routines, and a new bitmap format + font format 09.23.35 # (everything rotated by 90 deg. 09.23.36 # history? 09.23.45 # you're only 17 09.23.47 # Cassandra: meaning "forget it. now." 09.23.53 # ;-) 09.24.14 # I 09.24.22 # ve had my nicker since beore you were born 09.24.24 # nick 09.24.31 # It would mean that the code would have to contain all bitmaps twice, and font support will get tricky 09.24.54 # Well, google "Dj Dooms Day", find all my history. 09.25.00 # (2 versions of each font, but that should be probably in the same file) 09.25.02 # rotate would only make sence if lcd_update() did the rotating 09.25.11 # amicon: Fairy nuff. 09.25.26 # B4gder: That's be veeeerrryy slooooowww 09.25.30 # yes 09.25.47 # Sony can do it. :) 09.25.52 # Bitrotating like mad... and it wouldn't solve the width/height conflict 09.26.15 # I know 09.26.56 # * Rick boogies 09.27.21 # Cassandra: It would be easier if we would not have chosen the internal lcd data layout as our framebuffer format, but I know someone who has objected against that... 09.27.31 # ...and I think he's right 09.27.58 # Bit late now though, I guess. 09.30.28 # Hey, with the XY co-ords of the WPS bmp, where does it start? is top left 0,0 or is the middle of the screen 0,0? 09.30.36 # top left 09.30.40 # ok, thanks 09.30.44 # I wish the Rockbox forums wouldn't keep calling me a "Newbie" 09.30.52 # hehe 09.32.28 # Hey, just wondering here. The new H3xx series have a feature that has them recharge while on USB connection. Would that be software or hardware dependant? 09.32.48 # now there 09.32.54 # is a h100 build in the cvs table 09.33.02 # I hate this laptop keyboard 09.37.58 # Hrm, what bit does the bmp need to be? 09.39.10 Join DomZ [0] (~c203760e@labb.contactor.se) 09.39.18 # hi everybody 09.39.52 # what is the difference between H100 build and H120 build ? 09.40.12 # this is the same firmware ? 09.40.15 # No 09.40.30 # The H120 build is for H120s and H140s 09.40.51 # The H100 build is for H110s, H115s 09.42.10 # added note on daily build page 09.42.11 # but why make 2 build if this is the same ? 09.42.20 # it isn't 09.42.26 # or rather, they are not the same 09.43.23 # ok :) 09.45.52 # I'm quite pleased with the ease we can add new builds to the site 09.46.14 # indeed 09.50.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.01.31 # er, wai 10.01.31 # t 10.01.39 # we have support for h11x? 10.01.45 # cool :O 10.01.58 # Not yet. Linus still needs to get it working. 10.02.12 Join cYmen [0] (~cymen@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 10.02.20 Quit cYmen (Client Quit) 10.02.27 Join cYmen [0] (~cymen@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 10.02.47 Join belgarath [0] (~acd892a7@labb.contactor.se) 10.12.35 Join Chamois [0] (HydraIRC@champigny-5-82-226-182-23.fbx.proxad.net) 10.14.38 Join Harpy [0] (oQScef7aoV@dsl-hkigw7wbb.dial.inet.fi) 10.21.40 # phew, finally finished my WPS 10.22.09 # Man that was an effort 10.23.15 # I beg to differ 10.24.25 # lol, how the hell would know what i did? 10.24.43 # editing a WPS can't be an effort by my definition 10.25.03 # That part was easy 10.25.10 # The hard part is aligning it all 10.25.19 # that's not hard 10.25.21 # Specially when your not using the sim 10.25.25 # only tedious 10.25.40 # i never said it was hard 10.25.48 # no? 10.25.52 # five lines up 10.25.53 # i said it was an effort 10.26.04 # "The hard part is aligning it all" 10.26.18 # haha, i did too. Well i just shutdown my self hardcore 10.26.43 # Well i ment 'hard' in the sence that it took time 10.26.53 Join webguest26 [0] (~c2cbc9d1@labb.contactor.se) 10.27.00 # I figure 10.27.11 # people spend too much time on eye candy :-) 10.27.16 # wee! just upgraded my battery 10.28.02 # well if i knew how to code i'd be helping, but i can't, so i won't. 10.28.27 # you there ep0ch? 10.28.49 # if i could code i would have made an rockbox theme editor by now. 10.29.05 # you _can_ learn things you know... 10.29.49 # rockbox theme editor? 10.29.53 # Oh yeah, because learning a half decent coding language is just that easy. 10.29.54 # hell, just do it in VB 10.30.16 # a rockbox theme editor would be SOOOO easy in VB 10.30.23 # and you could easily learn that 10.30.47 # I just loath the pity escuse "I don't know anything so I can't help" 10.31.05 # the LEARN goddammit 10.31.07 # I've tried VB before, a few times actually. I plan to learn it, but everytime i start i find my self not having the time. 10.31.13 # hey. did I mention I just finished upgrading the battery in my h140? heh 10.31.21 # DJ_Dooms_Day: you have enough time if you can argue about it on IRC :p 10.31.49 # Believe it or not, but i am actually doing other things than sitting here and talking to you 10.31.57 # we all do 10.32.01 # yeah. :P 10.32.06 # we all have full time jobs 10.32.06 # one word of advice for anybody planning to upgrade the battery; there's NO substitute for the right tool! definitely get the correct sized torx! 10.32.20 # Coldtoast: hehe 10.32.21 # I spend a large amount of my time mapping 10.32.30 # B4gder: how complicated are WPS files? I havn't played with them yet 10.32.37 # Their piss rick 10.32.42 # Rick: like printf() strings on speed ;-) 10.32.47 # ah 10.32.50 # sounds easy to parse 10.32.55 # yes 10.32.56 # I got all but one torx screw out easily with a small flathead screwdriver but one of the ones on the mobo didn't want to cooperate. Started to damage it 10.32.58 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS 10.33.13 # when I get back into rockbox dev i'll see if I can whip up a preview system in PHP :P 10.33.41 # php would be nice but standalone would be nicer 10.33.42 # Any of you guys active in any mod projects? 10.33.47 Part LinusN 10.33.49 # ...that is, gaming ones 10.34.08 # Coldtoast: I locally use PHP for standalone projects (if you mean executable clientside by standalone) 10.34.08 # gaming takes time from rockbox, don't do that :-) 10.34.13 # nice to not have to be running php or have to run it off a site. I liek standalone 10.34.22 # oh? cool! 10.34.30 # Coldtoast: http://winbinder.sf.net/ 10.34.38 # I've never written anything like that. Just server side stuff 10.35.02 # B4gder: lol thats EXACTLY my reason for not just jumping into things and learning it all 10.35.53 # yes 10.36.03 # Coldtoast: I write all kinds of stuff in PHP -- as well as prototyping c++ applications in it. 10.36.09 # AFK, dinner 10.36.38 # nice. I've actaully only ever written one thing in 10.36.47 # PHP and that's my own site. heh 10.36.58 # but I did write it all. no ripoffs 10.37.03 # I REALLY like PHP 10.38.04 # I prefer perl to php any day 10.38.21 # B4gder: I don't like perl :[ 10.39.43 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 10.41.11 # man.. this guy I work with sent me a couple of messages 10.41.31 # and he irritatingly uses some f the radio calls we use at work in his messages 10.41.39 # like "Copy that" instead of "okay" 10.41.47 # it's ridiculous 10.41.55 Join Aison [0] (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 10.45.12 # it's "Roger that", at least he should get it right ;) 10.45.19 # coldtoast: where did you get the battery from? 10.45.41 # wbay belgarath 10.45.45 # err.. ebay 10.45.46 # heh 10.45.53 # it was, like, $20US 10.46.00 # is it 2100mAh? 10.46.04 # do a search for "2200mah" 10.46.08 # cool 10.46.17 # 2200mah. IPod 1st gen and 2nd gen 10.46.19 # so it should be like 31 hours? 10.46.26 # you just need to switch the wires ont eh connector 10.46.35 # apparently it's 29hrs 10.46.38 # well rockbox says 27h30 10.46.43 # not tested yet tho. chargingnow 10.46.51 # it seems easy but i don't know how hard it would be to switch the molex connectors 10.46.56 # you got it in OK? 10.46.57 # ep0ch: I ended up buyign the right sized torx 10.47.02 # I did, yeah 10.47.18 # was it a 4 mm deep one? 10.47.28 # i just did the brush metal mod 10.47.30 # 2 tips I have: get the right torx to make it a bit easier 10.47.44 # i had no probs with my flatheaded one... 10.47.51 # i was lucky 10.48.01 # ooh how did you get the brushed metal look? 10.48.21 # and tip 2: when you have it all connected and you have all but the back cover on, fit the battery into the back cover and then put it together, Don't try and fit the back on with the battery sitting on the HDD 10.48.21 # Can anybody spot what I did wrong here : downloaded latest songdb.pl, copied it and the vorbiscomm.pm to .rockbox dir on player. Ran it. It created the rockbox.tagdb (also in .rockbox), unplugged iriver, changed file view to id3 database. Now why is the view blank ? Did I screw up ? 10.48.28 # used "silicone carbide paper" 10.48.38 # how's it look ep0ch? 10.48.48 # well it looked good 10.48.48 # webguest26: no idea 10.48.57 # looked" past tense? 10.49.05 # but i kept on going with differnt paper types and now its shiny :) 10.49.09 # webguest26: you have run a recent build too I guess? 10.49.11 # hehe. cool! 10.49.16 # you run even 10.49.16 # soon it will be a mirror :) 10.49.22 # clearcoat it ep0ch 10.49.24 # i used bmp2rb in cygwin to have a bmp in grey rockbox format, but i don't know how copy the struct it gives me 10.49.27 # yeah will do 10.49.27 # yes, it's a bleeding edge from yesterday. I could try today's daily build I suppose. 10.49.29 # help 10.49.32 # be sure an clearcoat it. 10.49.34 # good stuff 10.49.46 # webguest26: I don't think there are any changes related to that made since anyway 10.50.00 # B4dger: worth a try though eh ? 10.50.05 # yes, sure 10.50.11 # ep0ch: did you find it MUCH easier to fit together by fitting the battery into the back cover then joining the halves? when installingthe battery? 10.50.31 # or did you have the battery sitting ont he HDD and fit the back cover onto it? 10.50.43 # oh fitted into the back cover 10.50.49 # no probs 10.50.54 # yeah. it's definitely the way to do it 10.51.09 # hardest thing my far is getting the old connector out and the new one in!! 10.51.13 # oh yeah! did you also remove the white label? 10.51.34 # from the new battery? 10.51.39 # yep 10.51.48 # yeah, i just had to look inside ;) 10.52.03 # heh, I did it to get a bit of thickness off 10.52.24 # it's a good fit tho. Didn't feel TOO snug 10.52.34 # B4gder: Bizarre, that did indeed sort it out. Guess I should try sorting it myself in future eh ? :) 10.52.51 # webguest26: ah, goodie 10.54.11 # I wonder if it's because I should have rebooted after I'd built the tagdb. 11.00.42 # Does the playcount update even if you launch a song from file view rather than DB view ? 11.01.04 # yes 11.01.20 # as long as the file exists in the db 11.01.36 # is there somewhere to view the playcount info ? 11.01.39 # and has a hash - I believe 11.01.46 # webguest26: you can make the wps show it 11.01.55 # ah yes! forgot that. 11.02.01 # thanks 11.08.22 # some news about the guy who made the radio working and who killed his iRiver ? 11.08.40 # :o 11.08.52 # he said he's gonna work on porting rockbox to iaudio 11.09.05 # we are sponsoring a BDM connector 11.09.25 # if he comes to it 11.09.27 # any idea which iAudio? 11.09.31 # x5 I think 11.09.35 # nice 11.10.13 # anyone know if there are any side by side shots of the X5 and ihp-120 around? 11.10.35 # am tempted to get one if it's a bit smaller 11.10.40 # and why it doesn't give his code for the iRiver radio ? 11.15.34 # tell you what, if he commits his code i'll donate some money for his BDM 11.16.05 # and i'll donate more when MOD and SID work :p 11.16.11 # hehe 11.16.24 # :)) 11.22.20 # Radio shouldn't be hard 11.22.21 # how hard would implementing wma playback be? 11.22.43 Join [2]ep0ch [0] (~ep0ch@81-6-243-128.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk) 11.22.44 # The radio chip is the same as in the newer ondios, so we already have part of the code 11.23.00 # belgarath: just port a floating point implementation to fixed-point 11.23.16 # ok 11.23.29 # but you need a few clues to do that well 11.23.31 # i'm thinking of learning a bit about C over the summer 11.23.51 # but obviously i would never get proficient enough to code for rockbox 11.24.25 # you could starting doing plugins 11.24.35 # thats true 11.24.50 # it is a good way to start rockbox hacking 11.36.42 Join sox [0] (h7qIA2DN@c-ad3fe255.733-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 11.37.25 # hi all 11.37.54 # what does error -5 mean when i boot my iriver? it keeps booting into irivers firmware instead of rockbox. 11.37.55 Quit ep0ch (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11.37.56 Nick [2]ep0ch is now known as ep0ch (~ep0ch@81-6-243-128.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk) 11.40.18 # im running bootloader v2 and todays bleeding edge 11.40.26 # it has been working for months 11.40.44 # Probably the copy of the new firmware to the drive failed. 11.40.48 # Try copying it again. 11.41.08 # Oh, and chkdsk your iRiver. 11.42.29 # solved, i had a script that downloaded the bleeding edge, and today the filenames has changed on the website... 11.50.05 # lunch 11.50.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.02.11 Quit sox ("Snak 5.0.1 Unregistered copy. Evaluation period is over. Program will now quit. Thanks for using Snak.") 12.03.20 Join sox [0] (QyBaCBif@c-ad3fe255.733-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 12.04.07 # i must be doing something wrong, but the bleeding edge zip for 120 doesnt contain any codecs...? the codecs dir is empty. 12.05.05 # hmm exact 12.05.13 # so what's wrong 12.05.30 # B4dger has to modify script 12.05.54 # *B4gder 12.06.59 # ah 12.07.07 # what a relief, i thought i was an idiot 12.07.45 # so which is the latest complete version to download? i allready wiped my old .rockbox folder while trying to understand what was wrong 12.11.22 # will downloading the source and building my own work? 12.11.43 # sox: get the daily build from today 12.13.08 # the codecs are all present in that zip 12.14.54 # thanks 12.14.56 Quit sox ("Time to move on...") 12.20.22 Join ]RowaN[ [0] (a2b0y@62.128.222.176) 12.26.45 # fixed 12.33.23 Join hicks [0] (~hicks@zeus.mups.co.uk) 12.39.26 # http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/configure-versioncheck.patch 12.39.38 # interested in feedback 12.45.02 Quit belgarath ("CGI:IRC") 12.46.14 Join amiconn_ [0] (~jens@p54BD3C4D.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.50.16 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 12.50.16 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (~jens@p54BD3C4D.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.54.34 # amiconn: you think this kind of approach would be useful? patch here: 12.54.35 # http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/configure-versioncheck.patch 12.56.06 Join Moos [0] (DrMoos@m214.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 12.56.25 # Hi all 12.56.30 # hi 13.03.21 # B4gder: I don't know whether it's necessary... 13.06.13 # I just thought it might be useful to some and it doesn't hurt much 13.08.13 # Mhm. 13.11.44 # I would be interested in some configure variables being set which contain year, month, and day separately 13.12.22 # (in order to change the starting date of the 'faked time count' in the fat driver for units without rtc) 13.13.31 # we could have the makefile get them on every invoke 13.14.55 # Ah, yes of course I mean the top-level makefile 13.15.00 # line YEAR=$(shell date +%D) 13.15.02 # like 13.15.36 # %D being day of course ;-) 13.16.00 # Currently there is a variable which gets set to the current time and date for cvs builds, but that's not very usable for my purpose 13.16.51 # Yeah, that adds 3 variables and calls the shell 4 times. Is there a way to do that with fewer calls? 13.17.03 # (Thinking cygwin slowness here) 13.17.58 # hm 13.19.13 # I can't think of any other way right now 13.20.28 # The compiler provides __DATE__, but that would be a pain to parse 13.20.59 # ...with the month as 3 letters 13.21.44 # I think I know how to reduce it to one call 13.22.22 # NOW=$(shell gnudate +'-DDAY=%d -DYEAR=%y -DMONTH=%m') 13.22.33 # then add $(NOW) to the compiler options 13.22.42 # s/gnudate/date 13.26.12 Join ac [0] (~5078751e@labb.contactor.se) 13.26.27 # * ac got today his iaudio x5 13.26.52 # any cool? 13.27.13 # miss Rockbox? ;-) 13.28.24 # i will open it and make some scanns of the board... 13.28.32 # B4gder: sounds good 13.30.55 # Has the Gmini XS 202 already been discussed here? :) 13.31.13 # not afaik 13.31.50 # hi Christian, congratulations :) 13.33.10 # ac ? 13.33.15 # here ? 13.33.50 # What platform might that one be? It plays wma...does that say anything about the hardware? 13.34.28 # the model name sounds similar to 220XS 13.34.46 # which is calmrisc based 13.35.30 # it's interesting because it's fairly low cost, and has a monochrome display 13.37.27 # but no ogg 13.37.52 # "ID tag 3 compatible" 13.37.53 # no. but i was thinking about rockboxability of course. 13.37.54 # haha 13.38.20 # http://www.archos.com/products/prw_500704_specs.html btw 13.38.30 Part MisticJeff 13.39.26 # "able to hold up 10,000 songs" 13.39.38 # I have ~6000 on a twice as big hd... 13.40.08 # hehe 13.40.26 # but I guess that's just regular sales speak 13.40.41 # or wma files from walmart online music store ;) 13.41.38 # http://www.archos.com/products/prw_500704_specs.html is another specs page for the same product? 13.42.08 # Afaik there is no gmini 220XS. I know of 120, SP, 220 and XS200 13.42.17 # All these are CalmRISC 16 based 13.42.28 # The Gmini 400 is not 13.42.36 # this 202 seems new 13.42.45 # might be a 400 relative 13.42.55 # Sounds like a brus´hed-up version of the XS200 then 13.43.10 # an extremely small 20GB1 hard-drive-based audio PlaysForSureâ„¢ (download) player with a competitive low price. 13.44.02 # this f*cking DRM stuff... 13.45.31 # 10000 songs on a 20 GB disk, hahahaha 13.46.23 Quit ep0ch (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC has never been so good") 13.46.24 # there is note on the bottom of the page 13.46.29 # 13.46.30 # 1 On average. Music capacity based on 3.5 minutes per song and 64 kbps WMA encoding. For better quality 128 Kbit/s encoding or more recommended. 13.47.45 # "you can't stand the quality, but then you can fit 10000 songs on it" 13.48.01 # :-P 13.48.02 # you can fit even more ... 13.48.05 # :) 13.48.10 # MPEG 2.5 :) 13.48.14 # 8kHz :) 13.48.48 # and mono 13.50.03 # 10000 is such a nice round number... 13.50.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.53.16 # * ac is looking for a very small screw driver to open the iaudio 13.53.55 # the iaudio u've just bought ? ;) 13.54.21 # ohh yeah ;) 13.55.06 # *this* is what i call impatience;) 13.56.10 # aiminig for a new porting-rockbox-in-shortest-time-period record? 13.56.14 # ;) 13.56.18 # maybe 13.56.40 Join bipak_ [0] (~bip@p508878A9.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.58.01 # ac: You would have to beat 1 month (approximately) 13.58.15 # 1 month? 13.58.18 # who? 13.58.31 # the ondio port 13.58.47 # Currently [IDC]Dragon and me are holding LinusN's "rockbox speed porting award" for porting to the Ondio 13.58.47 # amiconn :)) 13.59.25 # but you were two so ac could get 2 months ;-) 13.59.48 # Yes, but we ported to 2 different models as well (Ondio FM and Ondio SP) 14.00.24 # hm am i wrong or austriancoder wants to port rockbox to iaudio x5 too 14.00.29 # The MMC driver is the same for both, but the FM required to implement the Philips radio driver, and the SP the different MAS 14.00.57 Join RotAtoR [0] (~e@dhcp54-47.calvin.edu) 14.01.06 # we have to call in a jury ;-) 14.01.17 # Bger: who wants to port too? 14.01.26 # Bger: ac is austriancoder 14.01.33 # *g* 14.01.47 # hah :) 14.01.50 # sorry 14.01.59 # stupid me 14.02.52 # ac what did happen with your code for h100's fm radio ? 14.06.58 # was on my other pc: hdd head crash -> data lost -> want to rewrite it 14.07.20 # bad :( 14.07.53 # your el. devices hate you... 14.11.20 Quit bipak (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.11.42 Quit einhirn_ ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 14.17.43 Quit CheeseBurgerMan (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14.21.59 Quit pabs (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14.22.12 # is there any sort of charge protection on the iriver? 14.22.31 # i plugged a 2A 5V charger into it by accident, and now this morning it would not turn on. 14.22.37 # i think i killed it. 14.22.52 # was it with center + ? 14.22.56 # it is indeed possible to kill it 14.23.04 # didn't have time to check the polarity 14.23.36 # went to grab my player this morning and noticed that it would not turn on after a night of charging... i had plugged it into my satellite radio jack by accident 14.23.37 # ug... 14.23.52 # :( 14.28.49 # did you try plugging the real adapter to see if the green light turned on? 14.29.22 # elinenbe: your player is most likely fried 14.29.36 # LinusN: that is what I am afraid of. 14.29.51 # the green light DOES turn on with the regular charger though... 14.29.56 # ah 14.29.58 # is that any consoliation? 14.30.23 # although I didn't bring it to work today because I didn't think it would do me any good. 14.30.29 # the high voltage damages the voltage regulator circuit, giving the cpu and flash a too high voltage, frying them to the point of no repair 14.30.54 # :( 14.30.57 # i have done post-mortem analysis of two such victims 14.31.16 # linus hardware forensics analyst 14.31.17 # LinusN: so the fact that the charging light comes on means nothing? 14.31.18 # :> 14.31.33 # elinenbe: no, that part of the circuitry is not damaged 14.31.37 # ah... 14.31.40 # great! :( 14.31.55 # well, the battery and hdd may be good for resell though 14.31.57 # sorry to be the bearer of bad news 14.33.49 Quit webguest26 ("CGI:IRC") 14.34.54 Join Yokalosh [0] (~3efec181@labb.contactor.se) 14.35.07 # it's so stupid h1xx's been so easy fried 14.35.15 # being 14.35.16 # it's okay. 14.35.19 # yo amiconn..... was it you that i was supposed to be doing the red light death thing for? 14.35.29 # it is still under warranty, so we'll see what happens! 14.35.39 # cos after using a daily build i am still getting it these days 14.35.42 # its not easy to open the iaudio without demange something 14.36.46 # and also, my jbr10 seems to have a habbit of deleting random mp3s 14.36.54 # i lost my kasabian album :( 14.36.57 Join [1]Chamois [0] (HydraIRC@champigny-5-82-226-182-23.fbx.proxad.net) 14.37.22 # got any ideas of what is wrong anyone? 14.38.17 Quit [1]Chamois (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.38.17 Join [1]Chamois [0] (HydraIRC@champigny-5-82-226-182-23.fbx.proxad.net) 14.38.29 # yes? no? 14.38.36 Quit Chamois (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.38.36 Nick [1]Chamois is now known as Chamois (HydraIRC@champigny-5-82-226-182-23.fbx.proxad.net) 14.38.48 # no? yes? 14.38.49 # ;) 14.38.55 # LinusN: if it can't be replaced, I'll send it over your way! :) 14.39.41 # wonderful! 14.39.48 Join thegeek [0] (na@ti521110a080-4732.bb.online.no) 14.40.20 # Yokalosh: strange 14.40.37 # Yokalosh: have you flashed it? 14.40.38 # Yokalosh: Are you sure that you still get RLD? Because, it's normal that a retry may take a while, even a minute or so when battery is low and the retry can't be successful 14.40.55 # it is flashed 14.41.00 # and yes i still get rld 14.41.09 # RLD means the player is frozen forever until you power down forcibly 14.41.15 # mainly when the player is jigging bout in my pocket when i am walking 14.41.15 # * ac likes the ui of the iaudio 14.41.29 # amiconn: yeh i have to hold the off button 14.41.37 # or take out the batteries 14.42.21 # This is really strange... 14.42.27 # indeed it is 14.42.34 # Yokalosh: and you did reflash the daily build? 14.42.37 Quit DomZ ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 14.42.46 # yes i reflashed the daily build 14.42.59 # I had RLD on my player (dreaded Hitcahi DK23CA), and the reason was pretty clear 14.43.21 # maybe the hdd is just buggered, it wud also solve the dataloss problem ;) 14.43.30 # and also wht was your obvious problem? 14.43.38 # Linus added a workaroud to the old code, which intended to retry after a timeout, but that didn't work due to a mutex deadlock 14.43.51 # ooOOoo 14.44.00 # I resolved that, and don't get RLD any more 14.44.07 # gdo 14.44.17 # wanna take a look at my jbr10 ;) 14.45.07 # It still happens that the red led comes up for even more than a minute, when the battery gets so low that the disk is unable to spin up, but it will stop retrying sooner or later 14.45.39 # yeh 14.45.44 # but this is on a fuill battery 14.45.58 # In all other cases that triggered RLD before, like shaking te player while rebuffering, it recovers just fine 14.46.11 # hrmph 14.48.26 # so what do you think i should do? you are the pros 14.49.25 # just out of interest, what would be a better hd to put in my jbr10? 14.50.47 # any 4200rpm one 14.51.14 # for example? 14.51.29 # Perhaps there is a problem with the filesystem. I'd suggest running chkdsk 14.51.40 # i just reformatted it in linux 14.51.46 # Hmm. 14.51.46 # anyways 14.51.48 # need to go now.. 14.51.51 # see you later 14.51.54 # talk to you when i get home from skool 14.51.55 # bye 14.52.00 Quit ac ("CGI:IRC") 14.52.26 Quit Yokalosh ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 14.53.53 Join Febs [0] (~chatzilla@64-190-36-240.client.cypresscom.net) 14.56.15 Join tvelocity [0] (~tony@chan530-a051.otenet.gr) 15.07.09 Quit Plugh_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.11.40 # <]RowaN[> i got bored and had a stab at a crappy 4color logo for rockbox www.copymaster.co.uk/test.gif =] 15.12.05 # wooo 15.18.38 Join shawn [0] (~shawn@c-24-131-13-213.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 15.18.48 # Howdy guys. 15.18.50 # oops 15.18.55 Nick shawn is now known as godzirra (~shawn@c-24-131-13-213.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 15.21.50 # gmorning 15.24.44 Part Nibbler ("Leaving") 15.26.59 # <]RowaN[> arg, ive tried 3 places selling the 30gig iriver hd and all are out of stock 15.27.54 Quit B4gder ("go go go") 15.40.52 # How much is the 30gig? 15.41.38 # <]RowaN[> 114 euro in most places 15.41.51 # Hrm. not sure how much that is in USD 15.41.58 # probably more than I'm willing to spend, since I havent filled my 20 gig yet. 15.42.00 # <]RowaN[> + between 12 and 29 euros shipping 15.42.10 # <]RowaN[> 1 euro = 1 dollar approx, i think 15.42.37 # Ok.. then yeah... 114 bucks is more than I'm willing to spend :) 15.42.37 # <]RowaN[> 1 euro = 1.19465 USD 15.43.15 # <]RowaN[> im not willing, im buying one against my will, coz i dropped my 20giger 15.43.42 # <]RowaN[> p.s. www.xe.com great for converting money =] 15.44.36 # Ick.. that sucks 15.50.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.51.38 # <]RowaN[> iriver case should have some kind of hole for a strap like cameras do 15.55.44 # muesli asks whether anyone has a problem with the last build that it boots the original firmware on iriver 15.58.09 Join BlackRiver [0] (~liranvakn@TLV62-0-103-87.bb.netvision.net.il) 15.58.19 # hi eveybody 15.58.27 # Hey Rowan, what color values did you use for the greyscale? 15.58.47 # can some one help me i have a qustion.. 15.58.56 # Ask away 16.00.15 # there will be an rockbox for iriver h300? 16.00.41 # Not for a long time 16.00.57 Join CheeseBurgerMan [0] (~me@63.150.80.229) 16.01.12 # and why is this? 16.01.16 # I'm pretty sure its in the pipeline though 16.01.40 # Because they first have to finish up the rockbox for the H1xx series 16.01.56 # From there they can make the changes nesessary to have it work on the H3xx series 16.02.04 # ohh.... cuse i really want a rockbox on my h340 16.02.39 # Well, you'll be waiting awhile. 16.02.50 # lol... 16.02.59 # what a player you got? 16.03.04 # H140 16.03.09 # nice 16.03.16 # Yeah, i love it :D 16.03.26 # yeah is great lokking 16.03.31 # looking* 16.03.35 # ...not in a literial sence, but you know what i mean :P 16.03.47 # where are you from? 16.03.51 # Aussie 16.03.52 # You? 16.04.06 # israel 16.04.12 # where is aussie? 16.04.37 # victoria, downing on the mornington peninsula 16.04.48 # *down 16.05.00 # cool 16.06.33 # You have any coding ability? 16.06.57 # not really... im only 15..(small endid) 16.09.38 Quit BlackRiver () 16.14.26 # BlackRiver: the iriver Rockbox FAQ contains a section about Rockbox for the H300 series: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverFAQ 16.16.57 Nick Lynx_ is now known as Lynx_awy (~lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 16.18.25 Quit Aison ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.72 :: www.XLhost.de )") 16.34.28 # * LinusN catches the digital flow with rockbox on his H110 16.34.58 # Buffer: 14.558MB 16.35.02 # Congratulations! :) 16.35.30 # Was there really only the RAM size that differs? 16.35.40 # so far yes 16.36.08 # Loaded via BDM, or? 16.36.42 # nope 16.36.58 # i didn't bother connecting the bdm 16.38.14 # So there already is a bootloader and firmware patcher? 16.38.20 # no patcher 16.38.59 # How did you load the bootloader then? 16.39.19 # i patched it with mkboot 16.39.49 # "the hard way" 16.40.22 # No adjustment to the different iriver firmware required? 16.40.33 # no 16.41.29 Quit bipak_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.42.03 # Adapting fwpatcher should be easy then. The md5 must be added, and the md5 sums should be validated by platform, to inject the right bootloader 16.42.13 # yup 16.42.21 # Is there a platform id in the bootloader? 16.42.55 # * amiconn still uses bootloader v1 16.43.30 # platform id? 16.44.14 # Indicating iHP100, H120/H140, etc 16.44.28 # the rockbox.iriver image has a model id 16.44.38 # and the checksum includes it 16.44.48 # so you can't load the wrong image by mistake 16.45.02 # Yes. I mean the bootloader... 16.45.40 # Just yesterday I rewrote the iriver FAQ to make sure that it distinguished between the H110 and the H120/140! And already it's outdated! :) 16.45.44 # What if you inject a H120 bootloader into iHP100 iriver firmware and then flash that into the iHP100? 16.45.44 # no, you are perfectly able to patch a H120 loader with H100 firmware 16.46.06 # then the bootloader will crash 16.46.39 # Thought so. That means this situation must be prevented 16.46.44 # and you'll have to reset twice to start the iriginal 16.46.47 # originaöl 16.46.49 # vmjnfdöklbvs 16.46.54 # :) 16.47.21 # LinusN: The cookie mechanism will work even on the wrong model? 16.47.21 # so it will not be bricked if you install the h120 loader by mistake 16.47.25 # yes 16.47.31 # (i tried) 16.47.47 # the cookie is in iram 16.47.50 # * amiconn wonders why the cookie mechanism will work, but not the rest of the loader 16.47.54 # Ah 16.48.17 # The execution address of the loader is the same? 16.48.25 # yes 16.49.10 # Then all is fine. I guess the other possibiliy to misflash will work the same way 16.49.10 Quit alxcm (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.49.30 # (install iHP100 loader on a H120/H140) 16.49.37 # i'm glad that i made the cookie mechanism, it saved me today on my first h110 bootloader version 16.50.05 # though i wouldn't have tried without it 16.50.20 # Otherwise you would have had to install the BDM 16.50.27 # At least you have one... 16.50.31 # yeah 16.57.49 Join PaulJ [0] (~PaulJ@vpn-3119.gwdg.de) 17.00.32 Join alxcm [0] (~alx@68-232-83-247.chvlva.adelphia.net) 17.02.53 # mhm 17.03.21 # nice to see you working on more bootloaders :) 17.10.12 Quit elinenbe_ (" Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 17.11.42 # ok, so it's time to release a new boot loader 17.12.25 # i wonder if we should remove the "start original with remote" feature 17.12.57 # I vote for it 17.13.03 # me too 17.13.52 # I'll flash a new boot loader if it contains that change. 17.14.10 # The new bootloader will then also contain the refresh cycle fix, right? 17.14.25 # you should definitely have flashed the v2 loader long ago, imho 17.14.33 # Hmm, why? 17.14.46 # because it contains the usb handling 17.14.49 Quit Bger ("BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it.") 17.14.50 # Afair the only change was the HD power being off by default 17.14.58 # v1 does already conatin USB 17.15.07 # it does? hmmm 17.15.15 # ah yes 17.15.25 # ...and the HD power thing doesn't bother me, as I never use hold 17.16.24 # ok, so i'll prepare a v3 boot loader this weekend 17.16.34 # with the remote feature removed 17.16.41 # ...so booting with v1 is even a tiny bit faster than with v2 17.16.56 # hehe 17.17.32 # btw, are the flash screens using the darkest gray shade? 17.17.43 # splash 17.17.47 # No, they use the lighter one of the 2 17.18.00 # ok 17.18.48 # It seems the brightness curve is non-linear, I even used the slightly lighter shades compared to the 'ideal' values 17.18.54 # LinusN: my h120 is completly dead, but they are replacing it... I got lucky 17.19.03 # phew 17.19.09 # The LCD allows to set shades of 0..7, 0=white and 7=black 17.19.15 # LinusN: no kidding... they are hard to get ahold of now... 17.19.36 # So, the theoretical intermediates would be 2.333 and 4.667 17.19.41 # I used 2 and 4 17.19.52 # LinusN: can you detect voltage through software? 17.19.55 # shades? 17.20.07 # are we talking about h120? 17.20.14 # yup 17.20.19 # elinenbe: huh? 17.20.19 # ah 17.20.25 # rockbox has grayscale in cvs now? 17.20.34 # yup 17.20.37 # excellent 17.20.48 # Amiconn - I want to make some greyscale splash screens and WPS graphics and whatnot, but no one seems to know what the exact values are for the shades of grey to use in the bmp. Do you know? 17.21.27 # that would depend on the bmp2rb (I think), right? 17.21.33 # The bmp loader for wps doesn't support greyscale yet 17.21.38 # ah 17.22.28 # LinusN: you know how I destroyed my device? is there any way to prevent that through software? 17.22.31 # DJ_Dooms_Day: Simply use the linear intermediates, because that's what the core approximates 17.22.41 # elinenbe: not a chance 17.22.45 Join Infirit [0] (~infirit@82-217-42-235.cable.quicknet.nl) 17.22.53 # the firmware isn't even running 17.22.59 # (how did elinenbe destroy it?) 17.23.10 # Rick: too high charger voltage 17.23.30 # DJ_Dooms_Day: In html color values: #000000, #555555, #AAAAAA and #FFFFFF 17.23.39 # ah 17.23.40 # Rick: wrong charger... 17.23.43 # ouch 17.23.44 # ah, thanks, thats what i was after 17.23.52 # Rick: smae exact plug... but it was for my satellite radio. 17.23.54 # elinenbe: Didn't you say 5 volts? 17.23.57 # ahh 17.24.21 Quit Infirit (Remote closed the connection) 17.24.22 # Hmm, either it was unregulated 5 volts, or wrong polarity 17.24.43 # elinenbe: did it like, start smoking or something? :O 17.25.42 Join Infirit [0] (~infirit@82-217-42-235.cable.quicknet.nl) 17.27.09 # Rick: nope... charged all night (looked normal so i thought) 17.27.26 # yeah -- 5 volts 2 amp charger 17.27.39 # tried to turn it on and then realized my ways. 17.27.47 # although the satellite radio worked fine with my charger. 17.27.53 # with the iriver charger! 17.28.10 # that's gotta suck 17.28.10 # LinusN: What about the MFDR(2) values? 17.28.25 # elinenbe: were you able to recover the hd? 17.28.33 Quit Infirit (Remote closed the connection) 17.29.03 # amiconn: will try them as soon as i find the time to connect the logic analyzer 17.29.14 # Ok. 17.29.26 # Hmm, I wonder why you chose a different RAM start address... 17.29.30 Join Sucka [0] (~NNSCRIPT@host81-156-214-59.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) 17.31.12 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@norge.freeshell.org) 17.32.17 Join guyg [0] (~3efd602a@labb.contactor.se) 17.35.52 # Does anyone know if there's an equivalent function to mas_codec_readreg() for the iRiver? So that I could write some visualisation stuff? 17.41.15 # amiconn: me too :-) 17.41.24 # gotta go 17.41.27 Part LinusN 17.50.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.52.17 Quit DJ_Dooms_Day () 17.52.56 Join DJ_Dooms_Day [0] (~scottr@220-245-186-182.tpgi.com.au) 17.53.03 Quit tvelocity ("Leaving") 17.55.23 Quit guyg ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 18.00.26 Quit elinenbe (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- irc client ownage!") 18.04.57 Quit DJ_Dooms_Day () 18.05.43 Join DarkSnarfer [0] (~anonim@62-15-244-61.inversas.jazztel.es) 18.20.56 Quit ]RowaN[ () 18.34.09 Join pabs [0] (~pabs@xor.pablotron.org) 18.52.12 Quit Febs ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.4/20050511]") 18.52.14 Quit DarkSnarfer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.57.01 Join Febs [0] (~chatzilla@64-190-36-240.client.cypresscom.net) 19.13.12 Quit hardeep ("[BX] For a good time, call 1-900-4BitchX") 19.13.33 Join DarkSnarfer [0] (~anonim@62-15-244-61.inversas.jazztel.es) 19.19.19 Join Zoric [0] (~zoric85@62.101.50.5) 19.23.18 Quit Coldtoast ("Peace and Protection 4.22") 19.23.37 Join Coldtoast [0] (edan@ppp111-3.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net) 19.24.55 # i'm bored... 19.25.01 # get a wig 19.25.21 # i don't have to 19.25.39 # heh 19.26.02 # hrm. 19.26.07 # crappy windows malfunctioning.. 19.26.44 # my new battery finished charging 19.26.58 # left it for about 8hrs 19.28.55 # hm 19.28.56 # odd. 19.29.05 # windows started working again halfway through shutting down 19.31.04 Quit DarkSnarfer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.48.02 Join cYmen_ [0] (~cymen@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 19.48.39 Join solex [0] (~jrschulz@c186089.adsl.hansenet.de) 19.48.47 Quit cYmen (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.50.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.51.51 Quit solex_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19.54.24 Join Yokaloshi [0] (~andrew@cpc1-cbly2-4-0-cust103.glfd.cable.ntl.com) 19.54.35 Quit Yokaloshi (Client Quit) 19.54.54 Join DarkSnarfer [0] (~anonim@62-14-221-159.inversas.jazztel.es) 20.05.28 Quit DarkSnarfer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.08.01 Join yokalosh [0] (~andrew@cpc1-cbly2-4-0-cust103.glfd.cable.ntl.com) 20.08.07 # hey 20.08.22 # amiconn 20.08.28 # we were talking earlier 20.08.48 # about RLD on my JBR10 20.11.27 # do you have any ideas yet of what was wrong? i cant remember where we where with out convo 20.11.32 # *our 20.23.17 Join DarkSnarfer [0] (~anonim@62-14-221-159.inversas.jazztel.es) 20.25.14 Quit Sucka ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") 20.27.58 Quit yokalosh (Remote closed the connection) 20.28.35 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@norge.freeshell.org) 20.37.01 Join MIKE- [0] (MIKE@host81-154-248-9.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) 20.37.24 # anyone got any links to some ch8 games? 20.41.20 Quit alxcm (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.41.23 Join alxcm [0] (~alx@68-232-83-247.chvlva.adelphia.net) 20.46.23 Join alxcm_ [0] (~alx@68-232-83-247.chvlva.adelphia.net) 20.46.23 Quit alxcm (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.02.03 Join alxcm [0] (~alx@68-232-83-247.chvlva.adelphia.net) 21.02.03 Quit alxcm_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.02.44 Part Zoric 21.08.25 Quit DarkSnarfer ("Abandonando") 21.08.40 Join DomZ [0] (~52426222@labb.contactor.se) 21.14.21 Quit MIKE- () 21.30.03 # domz : pm 21.32.07 Join webguest99 [0] (~d8301372@labb.contactor.se) 21.32.18 # cool 21.33.36 Quit webguest99 (Client Quit) 21.33.37 # what's cool? other than the temperature here? 21.33.50 Join WaT [0] (~d8301372@labb.contactor.se) 21.35.45 Join ]RowaN[ [0] (a2b0y@82-43-212-52.cable.ubr10.newm.blueyonder.co.uk) 21.37.37 # * HCl goes to read the forums o.o; 21.37.59 # anyone alive? 21.38.18 # yup 21.38.26 # do you develop for rockbox? 21.38.30 # nah 21.38.55 # oh, i'd like to but it seems too complicated to compile 21.40.45 # how so? 21.45.39 Join wintermute [0] (~c6d1e1e6@labb.contactor.se) 21.45.52 # evening wintermute 21.46.10 # was wondering if u were in london yesterday 21.46.12 # but had no way to check 21.46.50 # If you're referring to me, thanks for the concern, but I live stateside. 21.46.56 # really? 21.47.01 # i was totally under the impression u lived in nodnol 21.47.04 # ol 21.47.09 # I think you're thinking of someone else. 21.47.13 # possibly dude 21.47.15 # possibly 21.47.17 # gee. 21.47.18 # But I'll take what I can get. ;) 21.47.22 # hehe 21.47.26 # i implement song rating, playcount, and a new database 21.47.33 # and suddenly i have a whole userbase i need to helpdesk for 21.47.34 # lol. 21.47.48 # * HCl starts replying on the forums :| 21.48.09 # It's great. Implement a feature and everyone goes. "And can I have it with chocolate sprinkles on top?" 21.48.17 # I suppose, one of these days, I should get around to newbsitting.. 21.48.37 # I know java pretty well, will I be able to contribute coding wise? 21.49.02 # WaT: maybe with the database generator.. 21.49.07 # do you know anything about music tags? 21.49.20 # no i don't, but i could learn 21.49.32 # i could use a good backend for reading, writing, and getting the offsets of the actual music data badly 21.49.35 # in java 21.49.45 # at the moment i use like... 3 different backends 21.50.13 # * wintermute spouts madeup tech jargon in an effort to help 21.50.33 # I just discovered rockbox yesterday, tried setting up compiling environment with no luck 21.50.49 # if you could explain on where to start i'd give it a shot 21.50.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.52.15 # WaT: If you're having trouble with setting up a Cygwin environment, then there's a good page on the Rockbox Wiki that should help. 21.53.15 # Quick masochistic question: do BMP WPSs work on the FMR? ;D 21.53.57 # WaT: mmm, there's a wiki page on how to set it up.. what kind of player do you have? 21.54.06 # iRiver ihp120 21.54.29 # CygwinDevelopment covers the iRiver targets, I believe. 21.54.37 # yea i messed around with it last night but got lost trying to build the cross compiler - i'll give it another shot thsi weekend 21.56.07 # Build the cross-compiler? I was under the impression that it downloaded/installed pre-built binaries. 21.56.45 # well 21.56.51 # the wiki says to build it yourself 21.56.56 # but i got a precompiled one off someone too 21.56.59 # i can dcc if people want to 21.57.01 # "WARNING These versions do not work correctly to build current rockbox code. You are strongly advised to build your own CrossCompiler instead.. It will fail when it reaches dumb, as preglow so eloquently put it in irc "dumb will vomit". "cygwin doesn't like us these days".. 21.57.09 # heh 21.57.09 # o.o 21.57.17 # want me to dcc you a crosscompiler? 21.57.18 # x86 linux 21.57.27 # i'm at work right now 21.57.36 # mk 21.58.51 # heh. 21.59.05 # scary if you see what end users have made already with t0mas' wps image patch 21.59.22 # * HCl waits for an end user to make him a nice wps :P 21.59.33 # I like my WPS 21.59.54 # at the moment i took one of the wiki and added playcount and rating 21.59.57 # but it glitches 22.00.00 # so i need a better one 22.00.06 # http://www.3dluvr.com/edan/tmp/WPS.jpg is mine 22.00.11 # simple one 22.00.18 # not bad 22.00.27 # i like to know upcoming too though 22.00.37 # I have upcoming 22.00.44 # Next Track 22.01.01 # oh 22.01.01 # right 22.01.09 # not bad 22.01.14 # I'll do something different with greyscale is in 22.01.16 # got it online somewhere? 22.01.20 # mhm. 22.01.23 # add playcount and rating :P 22.01.29 # http://www.3dluvr.com/edan/tmp/edan.zip 22.01.32 # k 22.01.34 # there's loads of room to add stuff 22.01.59 # any idea when greyscale is expected to work? 22.02.44 # lmao. 22.02.54 # export/config-h100.h:2:2: #error "re-run configure this just so wrong" 22.03.06 # WaT: should be working already, as far as i understand 22.03.09 # amiconn works on it 22.03.30 # for wps? 22.03.40 # oh 22.03.42 # dunno 22.03.49 # i think he might be working on that too 22.03.59 # not sure 22.04.08 # no 22.04.09 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=872.0;id=97;image 22.04.13 # k 22.04.16 # top left is my new one 22.04.25 # that I use... not made 22.04.56 Quit RotAtoR () 22.05.18 # can't see it, don't have an account on the rockbox forums yet.. 22.05.24 # oh 22.05.27 # just registered for misticriver so i could answer there a bit 22.05.47 # gotcha 22.07.25 Quit WaT ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.09.19 # i need to prod markun about how he did replaygain 22.11.29 Quit Cassandra (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.14.37 # what is the default font? 22.14.49 # dunno 22.15.04 # hmm 22.22.50 Quit gromit` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.24.06 Join gromit` [0] (~gromit`@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 22.39.35 Join sfried [0] (~44dd1d7c@labb.contactor.se) 22.40.00 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~5483a228@labb.contactor.se) 22.40.01 # quick question on iriver rockbox codec 22.40.09 # hello? 22.40.19 # mm? 22.40.36 # Is there a codec for WMA someplace? 22.40.55 # not for rockbox 22.41.12 # and no one is really keen on making it either, most developers, including me, hate wma 22.41.18 # on top of that 22.41.24 # there is no fixed point implementation of a wma decoder 22.41.37 Join RotAtoR [0] (~e@c-67-162-206-66.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 22.42.05 # I understand that there is a way to go back and forth from rockbox to the old configuration. We have the H120 22.42.11 # How do I do that? 22.42.20 Join Maxime [0] (~flemmard@fbx.flemmard.net) 22.42.59 # hello? 22.43.02 Quit Maxime (Client Quit) 22.43.11 Join Maxime [0] (~flemmard@fbx.flemmard.net) 22.43.12 # you mean boot the original firmware? 22.43.16 # have some patience, please 22.43.28 # <[IDC]Dragon> hi guys 22.43.40 # you can boot the original firmware by starting rockbox with the remote play button or holding record while booting 22.43.43 # hi [IDC]Dragon 22.43.45 # I understand there is a sequece of keys that will switch back to old config? 22.44.21 # <[IDC]Dragon> does anybody have an idea how to reverse engineer a CRC, given a bunch of data/CRC pairs? 22.44.49 # sfried: what do you mean with old configuration. 22.45.01 # [IDC]Dragon: um. as far as i know its designed so you can't 22.45.24 # <[IDC]Dragon> a CRC is no hash 22.45.48 # Cool, thank you 22.47.25 # [IDC]Dragon: Try all possible CRC algorithms by brute force 22.47.51 # maybe you could, if the source data is small enough 22.48.16 # <[IDC]Dragon> that's what I was thinking as a last resort 22.48.42 # <[IDC]Dragon> the data is about 5 bytes 22.48.49 # uh 22.48.50 # <[IDC]Dragon> the CRC is 16 bit 22.48.53 # paste me a pair 22.49.42 # <[IDC]Dragon> e.g. 00 01 02 06 FC 22.49.58 # <[IDC]Dragon> 3 bytes payload, 2 bytes checksum 22.50.19 # <[IDC]Dragon> preparing more 22.50.49 # thank u guys so much- 22.51.03 # that was my buddy helping me and he is a bit pushy 22.51.08 # appreciate the help 22.51.17 # np 22.51.48 # well, i know your feeling re: WMA, so do you even use the orig config or do you just use other formats? 22.52.05 # if i want to play stuff ripped from disc what do u suggest? 22.53.22 # well 22.53.24 Join webguest25 [0] (~cfe6da7a@labb.contactor.se) 22.53.31 # last time i tried to actually use rockbox as an end user 22.53.35 # it crashed like 3 times 22.53.43 # i also think there are some bugs left with my runtime database 22.53.51 # and i also like to have radio 22.53.52 # it's been quite stable lately 22.53.53 # * amiconn goes to test bootbox 22.53.55 # so i used the original firmware 22.54.03 # thnx 22.54.12 # [IDC]Dragon: Anything special I should check, apart from the remarks in the wiki? 22.54.27 # so you would suggest using orig rather than decoding to other formats? 22.54.45 # it depends on your needs, really. 22.54.50 # i mainly wanted rockbox for live playback (gaples) 22.54.53 # but rockbox for iriver is still unofficial 22.55.00 # but it should be stable enough 22.55.11 # i guess i could toggle between disc rips and stuff that needs gapless playback 22.55.14 # <[IDC]Dragon> amiconn: there are almost no feature 22.55.18 # <[IDC]Dragon> s 22.55.44 # Yeah. I mean, any special conditions, like having an MMC plugged at startup or such 22.55.59 # hey. is FLAC playback godo now? 22.56.04 # godo=good 22.56.13 # <[IDC]Dragon> plugging should still work, yes 22.56.17 # what bit rate does everyone genarally use? 22.56.33 # is 128 too low in your opinion? or cant tell w earbuds? 22.56.41 # heh. I use 320kbit for MP3 and 500kbit for ogg 22.56.47 # depends tho 22.56.49 # ok, cool 22.57.00 # 128 / 192 for me 22.57.01 # I really only have one thing at that quality 22.57.06 # i can tell the difference between those 22.57.09 # but not beyond 192 22.57.10 # 128 sounds too horrible 22.57.11 # dumb q here..i downloaded some files that the bitrate fluctuates, what is that? 22.57.18 # vbr 22.57.46 # so HC1 - u say you do not go over 192? 22.57.52 Quit Chamois (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC has never been so good") 22.57.56 # i say i can't tell the difference 22.58.04 # ok, thnx 22.58.13 # thats a whole different thing 22.58.13 # anyone use their player for Grateful Dead shows? 22.58.14 # heh 22.58.38 # i want to use rockbox for gapless playback, but each show in .WAV is > 1G 22.58.52 # See you all later. 22.58.55 Quit wintermute ("CGI:IRC") 22.59.04 # Dragon, what are those crc's of? 22.59.24 # if you want good gapless, use OGG to encode them 22.59.31 # so not sure how low bitrate i want to go, but would love to load it up..any suggestions? 22.59.36 # thanks 22.59.55 # you wrre helping me last week Coldtoast 22.59.59 # under a diff name 23.00.07 # oh? ok 23.00.09 # I told you I was not a westie!! 23.00.19 # aaah. heh. I remember 23.00.25 # i got my player and my buddy just hooked me up w the rockbox 23.00.29 # thanks!! 23.00.43 # np :) 23.00.46 # i copied your instructions and used them,.i was worried to do it, so had him do it 23.00.49 # have you had much of a play yet? 23.01.11 # nah, just got it set up and realized it didnt have WMA codec so came in here for suggestions 23.01.20 # aah 23.01.31 # so i guess i'll use orig config for that or just decode to another format 23.01.44 # needed to know how to get back to orig config 23.01.50 # HC helped me 23.01.50 # yeah. nice to have the option to do it :) 23.02.14 # would u decode to another format or just use the WMA on orig iRiver firmware 23.02.15 # ? 23.02.15 # I upgraded the battery in my h140 today 23.02.27 # use WMA 23.02.31 # never transcode 23.02.40 # what do u mean 23.02.42 # ? 23.02.47 # you're compressing somethign that's already been compressed 23.02.48 # try to change formats? 23.03.12 # I wouldn't personally 23.03.20 # ok, so stick w iriver firmware if i want to just play regular commercial discs that have been ripped? 23.03.32 # no 23.03.35 # just rip them to ogg 23.03.35 # yeah. and in future, don't encode as WMA 23.03.35 # heh 23.03.45 # actually 23.03.50 # conver them to FLAC 23.03.50 # what prog to do that? 23.03.54 Quit webguest25 ("CGI:IRC") 23.03.56 # what program? 23.04.14 # FLAC is lossless so theoretically, converting WMA to FLAC would be ok 23.04.35 # i just used window media player as was just testing out and it ripped as wma - no other options 23.04.45 # [IDC]Dragon: Bootbox is working on Ondio SP. About to test player... 23.04.47 # why are you using that thing? heh 23.04.51 # use EAC 23.04.51 # I found a problem though: 23.04.54 # Exact Audio Copy 23.04.58 # what program would u use to convert wma to flac? 23.04.59 # it's free 23.05.06 # FLACdrop maybe? 23.05.07 # sfried: WMP can rip to MP3. But try Audiograbber, EAC or CDex. 23.05.12 # ok, i know that one 23.05.14 # If bootbox doesn't find a firmware file, 2 messages are displayed. 23.05.28 # While these messages are displayed, it doesn't accept USB 23.06.04 # ...and it's impossible to power down 23.06.08 # thanks guys..anyone use the MKW tool? 23.06.28 # and rockbox has flac codec i assume? 23.06.38 # yup 23.06.56 # I'm encoding War of the Worlds as FLAC now 23.06.58 # this is greatr - well, i am of to rip and set up etc..thanks again so much 23.07.08 # no probs 23.07.29 # ill be back i am sure w some q's as i just got this setup literally seconds ago.."TIEGS" my usual name 23.07.32 # thanks all 23.07.41 # ok 23.07.43 # have fun 23.07.47 # ty : 23.07.53 Quit sfried ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.08.15 # I kinda like these "Drop" apps 23.08.28 # OggDrop, LameDrop, FlacDrop 23.08.40 Quit Febs ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.4/20050511]") 23.10.29 Quit Maxime () 23.14.03 # [IDC]Dragon: Same goes for player bootbox; it's working, but with the no-USB-while-displaying-message problem 23.14.11 Join Toto [0] (~5461e589@labb.contactor.se) 23.14.46 # <[IDC]Dragon> amiconn: hmm 23.15.54 # <[IDC]Dragon> will check later 23.17.07 # There is a simple way to make it accept the connection; obviously the message display waits for a button 23.18.31 # When USB is already plugged in, you can press 2 buttons to dismiss the messages, after that bootbox goes straight into USB mode 23.18.58 Join ghode|afk [0] (~dude@host-212-158-241-144.bulldogdsl.com) 23.19.33 # <[IDC]Dragon> it could do so even during the msg 23.19.44 # Yes, but it doesn't 23.20.02 # <[IDC]Dragon> understood 23.20.02 # dragon, what are those string - crc pairs from? 23.20.19 # <[IDC]Dragon> a network protocol 23.20.33 # thought so 23.20.36 # which one? 23.20.49 # <[IDC]Dragon> it's called PHC 23.21.01 # <[IDC]Dragon> for home automation 23.21.10 # Any news concerning the MAS pcm codec? 23.21.26 # ahh 23.21.29 # <[IDC]Dragon> want some more? http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=43806 23.21.33 # like non-sucky x-10? 23.22.03 # <[IDC]Dragon> X-10? is that the powerlinePIC? 23.23.16 # <[IDC]Dragon> amiconn: just got an answer today, the gesponsible guy from Micronas is back from vacation next week 23.23.28 # <[IDC]Dragon> ....responsible 23.23.47 # Ah... must have been a long vacation? ;) 23.23.54 # <[IDC]Dragon> :-/ 23.24.30 # <[IDC]Dragon> I'm doing all the bugging I can, believe me 23.24.49 # phc is all undocumented? 23.25.32 # <[IDC]Dragon> almost. They mention RS485, the CRC, some other bits 23.25.59 # <[IDC]Dragon> but the protocol itself is not disclosed, afaik 23.26.58 # anything after the 5th byte is crc? 23.27.08 # or do the field lengths vary? 23.27.46 # <[IDC]Dragon> they vary, the last 2 bytes is the checksum 23.27.56 # oh, k. 23.28.05 Join edx [0] (edx@p54A8F223.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.28.13 # <[IDC]Dragon> probably little endian, but I'm not 100% sure 23.28.46 # <[IDC]Dragon> bill20r3: are you into such things? 23.29.01 # <[IDC]Dragon> I'm amazed you know x-10 23.29.42 # not really 23.29.52 # x10 is pretty common isnt' it? 23.30.10 # <[IDC]Dragon> I just learned about it today 23.30.24 # <[IDC]Dragon> perhaps a US thing 23.32.18 # <[IDC]Dragon> what's the sucky part of it? 23.33.44 # just that it's only one-way, so you cant check to see if your command actually happened 23.34.13 # <[IDC]Dragon> ah. phc is ack'ing everything. 23.35.17 # <[IDC]Dragon> I'm close to write a program trying all 65536 CRC16 polynoms 23.35.39 # <[IDC]Dragon> and hope it is a CRC16 23.36.58 Quit Toto ("CGI:IRC") 23.38.22 Quit CheeseBurgerMan (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 23.39.49 Join alxcm_ [0] (~alx@68-232-83-247.chvlva.adelphia.net) 23.39.49 Quit alxcm (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.41.16 # [IDC]Dragon: Would it be possible to let firmware_flash.rock check whether the current flash content is already a rockbox image or archos original? 23.41.36 # ...and do the rom dump if it is archos original 23.42.28 # <[IDC]Dragon> a new way of a united flash plugin? 23.42.40 # No, not united 23.42.54 # <[IDC]Dragon> or a removed debug entry 23.43.17 # ...only saving the 'dump rom' debug menu entry, and at the same time make sure that the romdump is made 23.43.36 # For, rockbox_flash.rock, we should find a way to check whether the load address of a rombox.ucl matches the flash image 23.43.43 # <[IDC]Dragon> for the later bootloaders, I can 23.44.07 # <[IDC]Dragon> they have a version byte, which is 0 on Archos 23.44.28 # When we change the load address with bootbox, people might incidentally flash an older .ucl into the new image or vice versa 23.44.31 # -> crash 23.44.48 # <[IDC]Dragon> checking th load adr is easy, that's already in the code 23.45.05 # It is? 23.45.22 # <[IDC]Dragon> yes, to set the relocate flag 23.45.38 # <[IDC]Dragon> iirc, /me checks 23.46.02 # I think for compressed images you're right 23.46.10 # ...but these are not the problem here 23.49.51 # <[IDC]Dragon> look at line 442 23.50.45 # Yes. That checks whether the reset vector differs from the standard 0x09000000, and decides it's rombox if so 23.50.52 # <[IDC]Dragon> we can do some more checking here, like matching with the image address 23.51.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.51.04 # It doesn't check whether this matches the flash destination address 23.51.38 # <[IDC]Dragon> but it can in future 23.52.02 # <[IDC]Dragon> I was telling you that the "infrastructure" exists 23.52.07 Quit silencer (Nick collision from services.) 23.52.08 Join silencer [0] (~silencer@zen.via.ecp.fr) 23.52.09 Quit silencer (Nick collision from services.) 23.52.17 # Hmm. Provided the reset vector is guaranteed to point directly behind the vector table, it is possible 23.52.40 Join Infirit [0] (~infirit@82-217-42-235.cable.quicknet.nl) 23.52.47 Quit Infirit (Client Quit) 23.52.51 # <[IDC]Dragon> yes, that's the assumption 23.52.54 # Then the reset vector should be destination + 0x210 for a valid rombox image 23.53.22 # <[IDC]Dragon> ah, I remember vaguely 23.53.40 # <[IDC]Dragon> the we check for that ;-) 23.53.44 # <[IDC]Dragon> then 23.54.04 # ...Provided the reset vector is guaranteed to point directly behind the vector table 23.54.31 # Theoretically the reset vector could point anywhere in the code... 23.54.55 Join Stryke` [0] (~Chairman8@cpe-24-168-110-99.si.res.rr.com) 23.55.13 Join Infirit [0] (~infirit@82-217-42-235.cable.quicknet.nl) 23.55.18 Quit Infirit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.55.30 # <[IDC]Dragon> sure, if we don't stick with our linking 23.57.08 Join silencer_ [0] (~silencer@zen.via.ecp.fr)