--- Log for 15.07.105 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 3 days and 14 hours ago 00.00.10 # hi 00.00.11 # amaroK's current engines doesn't have true gapless at all :/ 00.00.12 # now ipodlinux has a fine player ;-) 00.00.18 # :) 00.02.20 # well, volume support feels a bit urgent 00.02.24 # :-) 00.02.55 # I've updated the hebrew patch (http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&group_id=44306&aid=783877) to current cvs, but I'm having trouble with patching. 00.03.01 # fortunately i always use the external amplifier for that ;) 00.03.16 Quit ansivirus (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 00.03.39 # Mirfle: what's the problem? 00.03.43 # since this: "diff -u oldfile newfile > patch" only does one file, 00.03.44 # Bagder: btw, i think crossfade should work when we return true value from the pcm_is_playing() stub 00.04.01 # ah 00.04.17 # and this: "diff -u olddir newdir > patch" won't patch the subdirs 00.04.38 # Mirfle: 1) you can append more diffs to the same patch or 2) use diff -r to do it recursively 00.05.35 Quit Harpy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.06.00 # how do you append the diffs? just with a word processor? 00.06.09 # >> output 00.06.12 # Can I make a suggestion for the General Settings --> Playback --> Repeat options? 00.06.15 # instead of > output 00.06.28 # oh, thanks 00.07.23 # Current options are Off, One, All and Shuffle. "All" is ambiguous. It's not clear whether it means all files in the directory or on the player. 00.07.24 Join tiegs [0] (~18e15776@labb.contactor.se) 00.07.37 # Perhaps Off, Song, Directory, and Shuffle would be more intuitive? 00.07.45 # not really 00.07.53 # rockbox always works on playlists internally 00.08.02 # a dir is a playlist too 00.08.24 # |#if CONFIG_HWCODEC == MASNONE && !defined(SIMULATOR) 00.08.24 # | pcmbuf_crossfade_enable(global_settings.crossfade); 00.08.39 # Bagder: that #if should be fixed from settings menus also 00.08.40 # Understood, but from an end user's perspective ... 00.08.41 # hehe 00.08.42 # then it should work 00.08.53 # nights everybody ;) -> 00.08.54 # Slasheri: but I could change the setting in the sim? 00.09.07 # Febs: I see your point 00.09.08 # Bagder: yes, but it doesn't really change anything :D 00.09.17 # Slasheri: ok ;-) 00.09.25 # (before that !defined(SIMULATOR) is removed) 00.09.28 # Febs: but I don't know what the best fix is 00.10.34 # The reason I make the suggestion comes from a problem that someone posted on the forum today, where he couldn't figure out why "Move to Next Folder" wasn't working, and as I tried to replicate his problem, I 00.10.46 # I read it 00.11.11 # another patch question: haw do I add a new file to the patch? 00.11.20 # Anyway, just a suggestion. 00.11.57 # Mirfle: diff -uN existing nonexisting 00.12.12 # the -N being the key 00.12.49 # Febs: yes, but any repeat in such a situation is odd 00.12.51 # what nonexisting file am I supposed to write? 00.12.58 # Febs: whatever it would be called 00.13.10 # Mirfle: a name of a file that doesn't exist! 00.13.22 # ohh, duh o.o 00.14.30 # hey. so did you guys decide if youwere going to add the limiting option? as in what limits what to avoid clipping? 00.15.31 Join webguest53 [0] (~ca51121e@labb.contactor.se) 00.16.33 Quit webguest53 (Client Quit) 00.17.22 # Coldtoast: they've already got volume limiting. 00.17.32 # I know 00.17.51 # aah, misread. 00.17.56 # :) 00.20.34 Quit Febs ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.5/20050711]") 00.26.00 # added anims to the plugin wikis 00.27.25 # Eek, getting into trouble with the timer.... 00.28.21 # I need to have 2 timer ISRs for the same timer interrupt, and switch between them... 00.28.33 Quit Moos (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Leading Edge IRC") 00.29.11 # sleep time 00.29.41 # Bagder: you got mixed up, it should be nonexisting existing, now, trying to apply the patch i 00.30.11 # i'm being warned about deleting nonexisting files :) 00.34.54 Quit Coldtoast ("Peace and Protection 4.22") 00.43.46 Join TCK [0] (TCK@81-86-99-228.dsl.pipex.com) 00.45.19 Part bobbers 00.46.50 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.48.05 # does compiling leave a log file? 00.54.08 # Yey! It worked :) 01.00.23 Quit rooomish2 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.01.13 Join KasKaraK_ [0] (~KasKaraK@84.40.119-80.rev.gaoland.net) 01.03.42 Join Cassandra [0] (~cassandra@82-70-230-150.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) 01.03.55 # Hello. 01.04.04 # Anyone here done the H140 battery mod? 01.06.42 # Or come to think of it, anyone know how to get the iRiver innards out of the case? 01.07.52 # can anyone here with cvscommit access review my new hebrew patch? 01.08.00 # http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1238540&group_id=44306&atid=439120 01.08.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.09.35 # there's four screws on top, 4 on bottom, and one on each side. after that, it should be relatively easy 01.09.42 # hope you've got the right screwdriver :) 01.13.50 Join jpegreen_ [0] (~Jeremy@234-64-212-66.spl.org) 01.14.39 # Hey all does anybody know the page on the site that lists the plugins and their compatability to which players? 01.16.15 # ashridah: The plug seems to be hidden under the circuit board. 01.16.34 # I think I've found the four screws holding the board down now. 01.18.48 Quit KasKaraK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.20.19 Join asdsd____ [0] (~asdsd@h-67-100-30-142.miatflad.dynamic.covad.net) 01.20.26 Part asdsd____ 01.24.39 Quit ashridah ("uni") 01.28.30 # 'night 01.28.38 Quit Mirfle ("Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.4/20050511]") 01.40.07 Join austriancoder [0] (~austrianc@80.120.117.30) 01.40.28 # hi 01.41.40 # Hello 01.41.54 # * Cassandra swears at this disassembled H140. 01.42.11 # I can't unplug the damn battery because the power inlet is in the way. 01.45.42 Join memmem [0] (~user@p54A21F71.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 01.46.11 # Hi austriancoder, I found the checksum in the M3 and X5 firmware files. 01.46.38 Quit lodesi (Remote closed the connection) 01.53.28 # Cool. Upgrade successful. I'll leave it to charge overnight and screw it together properly in the morning. 01.54.13 # memmem: could you give me some more infos? 01.55.23 Quit cYmen ("zZz") 01.56.49 # The byte at offset 0x102b contains the 8-bit sum of all the bytes starting with the one at 0x1030. 01.57.46 # I've patched the original firmware to record 1024 MB (instead of 256 MB); will test this over night. 01.58.00 # ah fine 01.58.11 # if it worked, let me know it... 01.58.28 # we will need this for our fwpatcher 01.58.39 # Still 7h10 to go... 01.59.19 # Lithium batteries are so tiny these days. 01.59.27 # * austriancoder downloads a x5 firmware bin 01.59.41 # And yes, the patched firmware is accepted and boots (only if the checksum is patched correctly). 02.00.52 # ok.. so you also know how to calcualte the checksum?! 02.01.14 # See above. 02.01.47 # ah ok.. 02.02.06 # * austriancoder opens the bin with a viewer 02.02.06 Quit ]RowaN[ () 02.05.59 # memmem: have you a bdm? 02.06.07 # No. 02.06.22 Quit silencer (Nick collision from services.) 02.06.23 Join silencer [0] (~silencer@zen.via.ecp.fr) 02.06.25 Quit silencer (Nick collision from services.) 02.06.52 # can any one point me to the sites page for plugins and their compatibility to which players? 02.09.59 # what happens if the checksum is incorrect? 02.10.00 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginIndex 02.10.20 # Amazingly, it's linked directly off the wiki home page. 02.10.58 # If the checksum is incorrect, the firmware file is silently ignored and then deleted. 02.11.09 # Cassandra: Thanks 02.11.25 Join silencer_ [0] (~silencer@zen.via.ecp.fr) 02.12.05 # Cassandra: I am amazed that I couldn't find it ... Ughhhhh (Napolean Dynamite sigh) 02.12.22 # memmem: good.. have you done a patching routine yet? 02.13.02 # austriancoder: no, so far, I've patched only one byte and the checksum. 02.13.15 Quit hicks (Remote closed the connection) 02.14.40 # memmem: ok... i will hack a little checksum-updater 02.15.05 # * memmem goes to bed 02.15.08 Quit memmem ("ERC Version 5.0.3 $Revision: 1.726.2.17 $ (IRC client for Emacs)") 02.18.13 # Does anyone know if there are any .wps files for the studio 10 player? 02.23.13 Quit tiegs ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 02.25.30 # Guess not. You could be the first to make one. 02.26.20 # Cassandra: I Think I will give it a try... Its been awhile since I hav ewritten any C 02.27.05 # WPS files aren't written in C. 02.27.24 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS 02.27.53 # Cassandra: Thanks again for the slap in the right direction... Good looking out 02.31.45 # Cassandra: I have another question? Is it possible for the Studio 10 to have a clock plugin? 02.35.27 # Cassandra: I didn't see one listed on the plugins page but I am not afraid to try and make one if it is possible 02.36.19 # It doesn't have a clock, I'm afraid. 02.36.50 # Cassandra: Ugh oh well it would have been nice 02.39.10 Join thegeek [0] (na@ti521110a080-0242.bb.online.no) 02.45.59 Part jpegreen_ 02.49.43 Part floam ("Adios") 02.58.38 Quit austriancoder ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12") 03.01.19 # night 03.01.21 Part KasKaraK_ 03.08.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.13.39 Join CheeseBurgerMan [0] (~youshould@63.150.80.40) 03.20.19 Join Rori [0] (MO-Pantsu@deadman3000.plus.com) 03.21.02 # Hey this is pretty cool. Someone did a SACD to DTS 5.1 conversion of Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds remastered. 03.30.05 Quit Sucka ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") 03.46.10 Quit CoCoLUS (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.03.42 Join StrathAFK [0] (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a225.wi.tds.net) 04.05.36 Join QT_ [0] (as@area51.users.madwifi) 04.09.48 Join TCK- [0] (TCK@81-86-99-228.dsl.pipex.com) 04.10.21 Quit TCK- (Client Quit) 04.15.47 Quit QT (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.22.10 Quit Strath (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.43.28 Join jamesshuang [0] (~james@24.149.176.92) 04.57.12 Join Maxime [0] (~flemmard@fbx.flemmard.net) 04.57.13 Quit Maxime`Mrn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.04.29 Join amiconn_ [0] (~jens@p54BD5862.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.08.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.23.00 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.23.00 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (~jens@p54BD5862.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.38.09 Join MrStaticVoid [0] (~jlee@69-175-94-207.frdrmd.adelphia.net) 06.30.56 Nick CheeseBurgerMan is now known as CBM-away (~youshould@63.150.80.40) 06.47.00 Quit TCK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.47.11 Quit jamesshuang (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.08.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.15.33 Join webguest06 [0] (~c31ce021@labb.contactor.se) 07.15.54 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 07.16.31 Join jpegreen_ [0] (~Jeremy@c-24-18-47-66.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 07.17.05 # Hey all 07.17.35 # hi 07.17.36 # LinusN: I want to thank you again for all your help yesturday. 07.17.44 # you're welcome 07.18.53 # * LinusN gets a cup of hot black goo, it says "coffee" on the machine 07.20.11 # LinusN: I was wondering if it was possible to create a .wps file for the Jukeboxstudio 10 07.21.05 # oh yes 07.21.40 # it's basically the same thing, except you only have 2 lines 07.23.05 # LinusN: Cool I guess I know one of my new pet projects I just hadn't seen one on the plugin DL pages or in the forums. Is it possible to create a clock plugin for it too 07.23.51 # the studio doesn't have a real time clock chip 07.24.05 # Ughh... Oh well 07.37.02 Join justmejg [0] (~JRG@c-24-18-47-66.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 07.38.00 Join Coldtoast [0] (~edan@ppp111-3.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net) 07.39.35 # Good morning 07.40.08 # moo 07.45.58 # LinusN: I have a problem concerning timers. 07.46.04 # tell me 07.46.21 # I want to make plugin_(un)register_timer() functional 07.47.01 # However, the coldfire only has 2 timers, and timer00 is already taken by the tick, so the timer1 must be shared between backlight and plugin timer 07.47.01 Join ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-120-248.VIC.netspace.net.au) 07.47.13 Nick QT_ is now known as QT (as@area51.users.madwifi) 07.47.25 # I don't know what is better: 07.47.37 # (1) Have one ISR, and dispatch in this ISR 07.47.52 # (2) Have 2 ISRs, and rewrite the vector 07.48.15 # (3) Have 2 ISRs and use 2 different vectors by assigning different levels 07.49.21 # ouch 07.49.57 # Hmm? 07.49.58 # i'd say (1), but it will get nasty in any case 07.50.38 # The simplest is (3), as long as we don't use up all autovectors... 07.50.43 # Also, I think that plugin_register_timer isn't that clean a solution, because it fiddles with the timer in application code... 07.51.25 # Jörg added it back then to avoid fiddling with the hardware in a plugin.... 07.51.56 # i think a more generic timer function is in place 07.52.05 # (1) would (imho) require a firmware/apps/timer.c 07.52.21 # Otherwise it is very unclear where the ISR should reside 07.52.59 # Erm, firmware/drivers/timer.c of course 07.53.22 # i was confused for a minute there... 07.53.45 # Then there's the question what to do on the archos. 07.54.01 # The SH1 has 5 timers (which is A Good Thing, btw) 07.55.08 # i think a generic function is in order, like set_timer(int us, void (*callback)(void)); 07.55.24 # "call this function in x us" 07.55.44 # or even "each x us" 07.55.53 Quit jpegreen_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.56.11 # then it's up to rockbox to handle the timer allocation 07.56.19 # and the plugin doesn't care 07.56.20 # LinusN: We need cpu clk resolution on archos 07.56.41 # aha 07.57.24 # ...for the video playback, as .rvf defines the frame time as # of cpu clocks, based on 11.0592 MHz 07.57.42 # ..which already created a problem on the Ondio, btw 07.59.19 # video.rock on the Ondio has to recalculate the frame time for 12 MHz clock (*625/576), but this causes roudoff errors 08.00.07 # Not that big a problem with videos on the Ondio, since you won't typically have very long clips on it, but on a HD unit there may be a problem 08.05.11 # hmmm 08.05.24 # reboot, brb 08.05.28 Part amiconn 08.07.52 Join B4gder [0] (~dast@static-213-115-255-230.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se) 08.08.33 # morning 08.08.44 Nick StrathAFK is now known as Strath (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a225.wi.tds.net) 08.08.55 # morning 08.09.13 # i wish the iriver had a scf5250 too :-) 08.09.19 # hehe 08.09.50 # wish in one hand... 08.09.52 # * pabs whistles 08.10.00 # memory to memory dma, 128kbyte sram 08.10.46 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@p54BD5862.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.10.52 # welcome back 08.11.08 Join Harpy [0] (1cqOZ7ftTy@dsl-hkigw7wbb.dial.inet.fi) 08.11.14 # re 08.11.28 # fancy 08.13.17 # LinusN: On a related topic, it seems the grayscale lib is very possible on the iriver. 08.13.22 # nice 08.13.53 # If I calculated correctly, the LCD has an internal repeat rate of 72 Hz in 4-grey mode, and 144 Hz in monochrome 08.14.11 # (I think I need to switch to monochromo for the gs lib) 08.14.12 # btw, I vote we remove the gmini builds from the cvs build table 08.14.40 # Transferring the frames will take < 10% CPU at 120 MHz 08.15.23 # B4gder: good idea, let it rest in peace until someone digs it up again 08.15.36 # The downside is that I will most probably have to boost for the same reason as the backlight fading requires it 08.15.41 # my thinking too, nothing has happened for months in there 08.16.23 # B4gder: Do you say that because you would otherwise have to fix the gmini sim? ;) 08.16.32 # yes :-) 08.17.36 # actually, that was what made me think 08.17.41 # I'd vote for fixing it ;) 08.18.58 # LinusN: Your timer function idea might be the way to go. We could add a time_base value, allowing to select µs or 11.0592 MHz base (on archos) 08.19.43 # I also thought about a high precision timer for a while, allowing to request timings that lead to a non-integral number of cycles 08.19.44 # sure 08.20.43 # That would solve the Ondio problem perfectly, but I'm still not sure what to do with varying CPU clock... 08.23.44 Quit justmejg (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.27.13 # i want to release bootloader v4 08.27.27 # any objections? 08.29.51 # none from me 08.30.19 # features? 08.31.34 # no buzz at boot, correct rec+on check, low battery warning, allows usb mode even when ata init fails 08.34.28 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 08.37.11 # And then 2 clicks at boot instead of one? (There is a click at boot at least on line out, and I believe this is because of the uda reset) 08.37.50 # Same thing happens on archos with mas reset... 08.39.21 # amiconn: yes, but the second click can be removed in rockbox 08.44.48 # LinusN: Could you please check the LCD wait states? I dunno if you calculated them or measured to make sure the transfers are within specs, but my calculations yields the following: 08.45.24 # 120 MHz: 8 wait states instead of 9 (perhaps a remnant from 140 MHz operation?) 08.45.52 # 48 MHz: 1 wait state instead of 2. 08.47.27 Quit webguest06 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 08.50.29 # amiconn: how do you calculate this? 08.51.01 # at 120MHz i get 16,673336 08.51.01 # ns/cycle 08.51.17 # We need to stay above 200 ns cycle time, and min. 60 ns inactive / active time each 08.51.31 # 120 MHz has 8,33333 ns cpu cycle 08.52.04 # 200ns/16,673336 08.52.04 # = 11,9952 clocks 08.52.22 # 12 clocks - 3 = 9 wait states 08.52.35 # The loop uses 7 cycles in other instructions that the lcd write, so inactive time is 8.33333 * 7 = 58.33333 ns - inactive time (almost) correct 08.52.40 # amiconn: i'm talking about bus clock 08.52.47 # Yes, wait a mom 08.53.13 # 200 ns / 8.3333 ns = 24 cpu cycles 08.53.28 # 24 - 7 (inactive time) = 17 08.53.56 # 17 cpu clocks -> 9 bus clocks (rouned up!) 08.54.03 # -> 8 wait states 08.54.36 # Same with 48 MHz 08.54.57 # cpu cycle is 20.83333 ns 08.55.20 # 200/20.83333 = 9.6 -> 10 08.55.34 # 10 -7 (inactive time) = 3 08.55.44 # 3 cpu clks -> 2 bus clks -> 1 wait 08.56.47 # in fact, we can set the wait states much lower 08.57.12 # I don't get the -3 in your formula, but if this means the inactive time (in bus clocks and rounded down) it is still off by 1 08.57.30 # because 9 bus cycles means 8 wait states 08.57.46 # a bus cycle is minimum 3 clocks 08.57.57 # and the wait state is added to that 08.58.20 # Then we can set it even 2 lower than my calculations yield 08.58.39 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 08.58.40 # (I assumed a bus cycle is 1 bus clock + wait states) 08.59.26 # Hmm, perhaps this isn't correct... I forgot the pipelining 08.59.38 # my calculation is based on the 200ns cycle time in the data sheet, but if we include the inactive time in the lcd driver, we can decrease it to the 160ns minimum low-pulse width 09.00.01 # minimum low pulse is 60 ns 09.00.14 # i mean 60 09.00.18 # ...and minimum high pulse is 60 ns as well 09.00.54 # ..but now I'm no longer sure we guarantee that.... 09.01.14 # ...because of the write pipeline 09.01.17 # meaning that we can set it to 1 wait state at 120mhz if we want 09.01.55 # It may be that the write cycles are back-to-back with 9 wait states, completely shadowing the loop 09.02.00 # as long as we keep the 200us cycle time 09.03.18 # another reason to bring up the LA ... 09.03.40 # yup :) 09.04.10 # how much do you know about the write pipeline? 09.04.38 # If this is the case, the best solution would be to have different write loops, to let the cpu core dictate the timing 09.04.55 # The we colud reduce the wait cycles to 50% low pulse with 09.04.58 # *width 09.05.58 # i must confess i didn't know there was a write pipeline 09.06.36 # I'm not that sure, but it seems write pipelining can completely shadow instruction executing if the write target is slow, like the SDRAM 09.07.20 # I think I observed this when writing asm memset(), where some changes didn't affect speed at all 09.08.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.08.54 # For all STORE operations (except MOVEM), certain hardware resources 09.08.54 # within the processor are marked as ?busy? for two clock cycles after the final DSOC cycle of the 09.08.54 # store instruction. If a subsequent STORE instruction is encountered within this 2-cycle window, it 09.08.54 DBUG Enqueued KICK LinusN 09.08.54 # will be stalled until the resource again becomes available. Thus, the maximum pipeline stall 09.08.54 # involving consecutive STORE operations is 2 cycles. The MOVEM instruction uses a different set 09.08.59 # of resources and this stall does not apply. 09.09.12 # Hmm, it seems there is no write pipeline, but the instruction fetch pipeline and oep may have that effect 09.11.11 # Now I think this is really a case for the LA... 09.11.24 # so we *could* decrease the lcd waitstates considerably 09.11.35 # interesting 09.11.38 # Does the write stop execution until the bus cycle is completed, or not? 09.12.18 # not, provided the pipeline has something to do 09.13.34 # Your quote means cpu clocks, and we don't have 2 consecutive store operations. 09.14.59 # nope 09.15.19 # that's just about everything it says about write pipelines and stalls 09.15.45 # so i assume that there is no write pipe 09.17.51 # No, but this is interesting too (from the exception processing description): 09.17.52 # The ColdFire processor uses an imprecise reporting mechanism for access errors on operand writes. 09.17.52 # Because the actual write cycle may be decoupled from the processor’s issuing of the operation, the 09.17.52 DBUG Enqueued KICK amiconn 09.17.52 # signaling of an access error appears to be decoupled from the instruction that generated the write. 09.18.08 # The "decoupled" being the key here 09.18.11 # yes 09.18.18 Nick Lynx_awy is now known as Lynx_ (~lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 09.19.51 # Also, from the cache's DBWE description: 09.19.52 # For the ColdFire CPU, reporting access errors on operand writes is always imprecise and 09.19.52 # enabling buffered writes simply further decouples the write instruction from the signaling of the fault. 09.20.10 # *always impresice* 09.21.14 # Similar in the ACR description... 09.21.44 # i hate them for not telling how it really works 09.23.14 # page 83 in the coldfire 2 user's manual is interesting 09.24.04 # but it probably only refers to instruction fetches 09.25.10 # If it works like I think, we could lower the waits to get a ~50% duty cycle, but then need a 24-cpu-cycle loop for 120 MHz, and a 10-cycle loop for 48 MHz 09.26.24 # This would also mean that we now obey the cycle length, but not the minimum high pulse width 09.26.27 # yes, i think so too 09.26.41 # right 09.27.16 # When hooking up the LA, you could also check the MFDR(2) values... ;) 09.27.32 # yes i will 09.28.02 # maybe put up a wish list for me in the wiki 09.28.12 # so i don't forget anything 09.28.23 # Btw, we are slightly above LCD specs on archos too 09.28.37 # hehe 09.29.11 # Ah, no 09.29.44 # Forgot the implicit 2 wait states for port access.... 09.30.58 # We're right at specs on Ondio. The cycles alternate; 8 cycles - 6 cycles (including the wait states) 09.31.23 Ctcp Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 8 minutes and 58 seconds at the last flood 09.31.23 # * amiconn is totally confused now :/ 09.36.05 Join justmejg [0] (~JRG@71-36-39-36.tukw.qwest.net) 09.42.14 Join Chamois [0] (~Chamois@champigny-5-82-226-182-23.fbx.proxad.net) 09.52.21 # Hello anyone who may know the answer to this would make my day... When Creating a .wsp file and using the %ac tag is there anything special that you need to do to make it work? 09.53.40 # Also does that tag work when creating a .wsp file for the Studio series of players 09.56.29 # i'm not sure it works for the studio 09.57.05 # are you using the very latest daily build? 09.57.13 # Yep 09.57.41 Join webguest26 [0] (~c31ce021@labb.contactor.se) 09.57.43 # then i guess it doesn't work on the studio 09.58.32 # Oh well, I was also thinking that a %aj Full Justify option would be a good thing do you think that it would be possible? 09.59.04 # On any of the players 10.14.30 # the justify things don't work on player/studio 10.17.22 # Thats ok I have a studio 10 but am about to get an AV420 will the Rockbox firmaware work on it ? 10.18.20 # Dumb question I will look it up on my own... 10.19.04 Join Mirfle [0] (~chatzilla@ADSL222248.BRK.biu.ac.il) 10.22.44 Join cYmen [0] (~cymen@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 10.23.44 # Okay so I looked it up on my own... and the answer was no... but would you know if there is any chance that there may be a firmaware for the AV series in the future? 10.27.17 # On another note... what would one have to do to create a %pf style item for the .wps that looks like that but has the track length static on the left and the time remaining counting down on the right? 10.28.08 # for the studio series? 10.29.19 Join ep0ch [0] (~ep0ch@82-133-68-63.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk) 10.31.18 # Would that even be possible? 10.41.33 Quit Mirfle ("Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.4/20050511]") 10.48.04 Nick justmejg is now known as jpegreen (~JRG@71-36-39-36.tukw.qwest.net) 10.50.21 # B4gder: I want to write my version of the %pf what would I have to do to make that happen? 10.56.10 Part jpegreen 10.56.40 Join lodesi [0] (~moi@l01m-212-195-128-117.d4.club-internet.fr) 11.08.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.09.51 # B4gder: The 'bounce' scroll animation is outdated - no greyscale... 11.10.13 # ..plus it doesn't have the left / right margin corrections 11.11.45 # LinusN: The link for the SCF5250 user's manual says SCF5249... 11.12.09 # doh 11.15.07 # boot loader v4 is released 11.15.09 # LinusN: That clock idea floating around in the forums - it seems that it is possible to configure the PLL so that the CPU clock is _lower_ than the base frequency 11.15.46 # Do you think this will save power, or would the PLL eat more power than what is saved by lowering the CPU clock? 11.16.14 # ...compared to the PLL being inactive at 11 MHz 11.17.34 # well, we'll have to try it 11.18.27 # We could switch off pretty much everything - ata power, lcd, and even the sdram controller when running completely from iram 11.18.46 # yeah 11.19.02 # would be an interesting experiment 11.19.13 # but the clock will drift like hell 11.19.22 # Why? 11.19.26 Quit ze (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.19.37 # It should be the same accuracy as the xtal itself 11.19.42 # what would you base it on? the tick? 11.20.06 # I would even lower the tick to once per second 11.20.33 # yes, but as soon as you use the player, the tick will drift because of the cpu boosting 11.20.55 # Ah, you mean while using it - yes it will drift 11.21.13 # ...but max. 10 ms per boost/unboost 11.21.35 # it can be good for relative stuff, like wakeup in 8 hrs 11.21.49 # but it will never be a good rtc replacement 11.22.12 # subtract 5ms each time a boost/unboost happens? 11.22.25 # or add 11.22.33 # ep0ch: the pll lock time is unknown 11.22.50 # we only know that it is never longer than 10ms 11.23.20 # if only we had a timer that counted external oscillator cycles 11.24.43 # Yes, I would want that for the timer stuff I mentioned as well... 11.26.42 # just another of the many coldfire design flaws 11.27.23 Join Lurkski [0] (~465d6dd1@labb.contactor.se) 11.28.19 # who was working on remote control wps and stuff? 11.28.28 # I'm learning C right now and was hoping someone here could answer a quick question 11.28.31 # ? 11.28.42 # shoot 11.28.52 Join tucoz [0] (~81b1111b@labb.contactor.se) 11.29.13 # Hi, looks like the hebrew/arabic patch is updated: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&group_id=44306&aid=1238540 11.29.16 # LinusN: Iirc there is a patch, but I think it is the quick-hack type 11.29.31 # amiconn: aha 11.29.37 # tucoz: yes 11.29.43 # My idea was to use a second ui thread for the remote 11.29.56 # When defininf variables, specifically character arrays, must this been done in the main function before any of the rest of the body of the code? For some reason I thought if I defined an array it would be good from that point on. 11.30.11 # ...but I don't think I will work on that in the near future 11.30.19 Join ze [0] (ze@ca-dstreet-cuda2-c9a-73.snbrca.adelphia.net) 11.30.36 # (1) Too many other ideas (2) Remote isn't exactly top pri for me 11.31.42 # Lurkski: C99 allows declaring variabled in the middle of a code block, but it is still common practice to declare them in the top of the function 11.31.56 # bye bye 11.31.59 Part tucoz 11.32.35 # Linus N: Oh I see, is C99 a branch off of C? 11.32.48 # it's the latest version of the C specification 11.34.04 # cool, just wanted to make sure my compiler wasn't on the fritz. Thanks for the help Linus. This project is what inspired me to learn C so thanks in so many ways! Goodnight. 11.36.14 Quit Lurkski ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 11.45.21 # amiconn: i'm trying to build my own overlay plugin 11.45.32 # it runs fine on the sim 11.45.45 # but i get a black screen o the recorder 11.45.51 # overlay? 11.46.02 # with red led blinking.. 11.46.09 # overlay like rockboy 11.46.29 Quit Coldtoast (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.46.47 # i thouht i would need the overlay as i'm usnig bi amount of ram :) 11.47.27 # but i don't undertand at all how this thing works :/ 11.47.44 # just did a copy/paste from rockboy 11.48.34 # any idea? 11.48.44 Join hicks [0] (~hicks@zeus.mups.co.uk) 11.49.14 # i don't know how the archos rockboy works 11.49.54 # :'( 11.52.50 # ok, i see now 11.53.25 # lodesi: what is your problem? 11.53.31 # crash? 11.53.36 # yep 11.53.53 # did you use archos.lds for linking? 11.54.09 # i think so 11.54.20 # i reused the makefile of rockboy 11.55.44 # so your plugin just loads the overlay and calls it? 11.56.09 # yes 11.56.17 # but there is more code i the overlay 11.56.24 # in* 11.56.27 # have you checked the .map file? 11.56.57 # mmh.. do'tthink so, where is it? 11.57.59 # the rockboy map file is in $(builddir)/apps/plugins/rockboy/rockboy.map 11.58.08 # it seems linked agaist my plugin 11.59.47 # Slasheri: u there? 12.07.20 # lodesi: any clues? 12.09.34 # not really.. 12.10.53 # do i need to change the .entry/.text/.data ... entries, or should they stay like they are in rockboy? 12.11.49 # i think they can remain 12.12.20 # lodesi: can you send me a zip of your code? 12.12.38 # ok 12.12.52 # linus at haxx dot se 12.13.29 Join Lear [0] (~chatzilla@du-56-158.ppp.telenordia.se) 12.15.14 # tgz is fine? 12.16.08 # well.. sent a tgz :) 12.18.17 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 12.24.59 # you will need this -> ftp://defert.dyndns.org/pq1.tgz 12.25.11 # if you want to try it in the simulator 12.25.35 # just untgz it in the root folder of the archos-sim 12.26.01 # going to lunch 12.26.04 # * lodesi is away: OccupÃ© 12.31.27 Join Coldtoast [0] (~edan@ppp111-3.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net) 12.32.21 Join austriancoder [0] (~austrianc@80.120.117.30) 12.32.28 # morning 12.32.38 # LinusN: hi, now i am :) 12.32.47 # Slasheri: hi 12.33.07 # i was investigating a problem with the playback code 12.33.25 # it doesn't skip bad files 12.33.47 # ah, yes.. that should be fixed 12.33.55 # play a wav file with a bad header, and it will retry forever 12.34.01 # i think load_track function could do the skipping if it finds the metadata bad 12.34.08 # :/ 12.34.36 # i'm not sure what to do with last_peek_offset 12.37.47 # Hmm, it should contain index to the next unbuffered track 12.38.17 # That index is for example decreased when we call playlist_next(1) 12.39.00 #