--- Log for 23.07.105 Server: tolkien.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 14 hours and 5 minutes ago 00.00.29 # Or just use the year 00.00.38 # What year is abbey road? 00.00.39 # true dark one.,.good idea 00.00.49 # Since the year's a number anyway. ;-) 00.00.53 # right..so the early albums would be 1964 xyz 00.00.56 # etc..cool 00.01.19 # I mean, it wouldn't be perfect because if two came out in the same year, those two would be in alphabetical, but it'd be better. 00.01.24 # now my files arent playing..i see the folders but when i push play to open the folder i get that blank screen again 00.02.32 # wow..mow i pressed play and it asked for insert plalist or delet directory..i pressed playlist and it started playing..i had never had to do that befopre 00.04.28 # Hrm 00.04.38 # What file display mode is it in? 00.05.47 # damn..so i now see mu=y folders when i reboot..but when i hit play to open a folder i get that battery icon screen 00.06.16 # you mean in show files? 00.06.30 # Yeah 00.06.36 # "music" 00.06.45 # Hrm 00.06.48 # Try all supported 00.06.57 # ok 00.08.14 # there is "supported" and "all"..no "all supported" 00.10.51 # All 00.10.58 # Or maybe supported 00.11.05 # But I'd go with All first. 00.11.10 # See if things show up that way 00.11.50 # damn..well they show up..but when i play a song i cant skip to next..it just pauses the song 00.12.01 # how do i just reset all settings to default? 00.12.51 # i see all the file names and can scroll to one but they cant be skipped to next while one is playing..i recall seeing something like "follow playlsit"..maybe that? 00.12.54 # \seen rooomish 00.13.24 # \see rooomish 00.13.56 Quit rooomish2 ("game is over") 00.14.11 # Like, how are you trying to go to another one while it's playing? 00.14.32 # just nudging play button to right 00.14.35 # from the side 00.14.37 # And nothing happens? 00.14.42 # no 00.15.00 # it was working fine..i just got this a week ago and have been experimenting w settings 00.15.00 # Dunno 00.15.41 # isn't there something abiout "following a playlist" 00.15.55 # maybe i selected that yet there isnt a playlist (??) 00.16.32 # how do i just restore all to default do you know? 00.16.34 # I'm not really sure. 00.16.37 # Okay, hit AB 00.16.50 # under Manage Settings is a reset choice 00.17.02 Quit Aison ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.72 :: www.XLhost.de )") 00.18.08 # ok..cool..we'll see..i am burned out trying to set this up..haven't been able top enjoy or actually listen yet..i am also trying to write a .wps to stop scrolling but am unclear on where to put it and what/where to delete the "%" 00.18.41 # I think you can turn scrolling off somewhere in the Display settings, but I'm not sure. 00.18.48 # I'm not the most knowledgeable about this. 00.19.03 # thanks..damn my next track won't work now 00.19.07 # in WPS, scrolling occurs if a line has %s in it 00.19.19 # Aaah 00.19.23 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 00.19.32 # so when a long title is playing it scrolls..can i completely stop that? 00.19.48 # So if you delete the %s the line doesn't scroll? 00.19.58 # yes, remove the %s on that line in the wps file 00.20.11 # where do i find the .WPS file? 00.20.27 # you write your own 00.20.33 # So you're using the default WPS? 00.20.37 # the default wps is not in a file 00.21.10 # oh..i saw the default .wps doc..can i just delete the %s and place a .wps file in root? 00.21.32 # in .rockbox 00.22.06 Join Barry [0] (~51429e28@labb.contactor.se) 00.22.17 # hello all 00.22.19 # 'lo 00.22.26 # ugh,,,i'm done for a while w this. now my next track isnt working 00.22.37 # thanks Darkk & Linus... 00.22.46 # Sorry I couldn't help more. 00.22.53 # np..u helped a lot 00.23.02 # i shouldnt have done so much messing around :( 00.23.26 # It happens. 00.23.43 # Linus: hi, have you planed a surprise for us before to go in vacations? :D 00.25.53 Join webguest47 [0] (~3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) 00.26.20 # why in the quick menu there is the up key don't used? 00.26.33 # Is it needed? 00.26.51 # yes 00.27.04 # left, right and down 00.27.13 # would be nice to have Crossfade as up on the quick menu 00.27.17 # but not up in joystick 00.27.32 # Stryke: yes i think too 00.28.01 # I don't really find myself using the quick menu much. I wonder what others would like to see there. 00.28.10 # Linus- are you saying I could just copy that default .WPS file and what exactky do i delete and then just drag it into the .rockbox folder? 00.28.44 # You don't actually delete anything 00.28.54 # no need to delete anything, drag into .rockbox and select it from Display -> Browse .wps 00.29.03 # You put the default.wps in the .rockbox folder, and yeah, what he said. 00.29.04 # Delete any "%s" 00.29.22 # Yeah, edit the default.wps file with something, and remove any %s in it you see. 00.29.38 # anyone can add the up key in quick menu for iriver? 00.29.46 # %s%pp/%pe: %?it<%it|%fn> - %?ia<%ia|%d2> - %?id<%id|%d1> 00.29.46 # %pc%?ps<*|/>%pt 00.29.56 # so that is the default .WPS 00.30.26 # bye all 00.30.26 # so are you saying just the very first 2 characters? - the very first "%" and then the "s" 00.30.32 Quit Barry ("CGI:IRC") 00.30.47 # thats the default wps for the player 00.31.01 # She needs the h1x0 default 00.31.03 # ok Stryke...but i want to stop scrolling 00.31.22 # this is the default for iriver and recorder 00.31.23 # # Default WPS for Recorder 00.31.23 # %s%?it<%?in<%in. |>%it|%fn> 00.31.23 DBUG Enqueued KICK Stryke` 00.31.23 # %s%?ia<%ia|%?d2<%d2|(root)>> 00.31.23 # %s%?id<%id|%?d1<%d1|(root)>> %?iy<(%iy)|> 00.31.23 *** Alert Mode level 1 00.31.23 # %pc/%pt [%pp:%pe] 00.31.25 # %fbkBit %?fv %?iv<(id3v%iv)|(no id3)> 00.31.27 # %pb 00.31.29 # %pm 00.31.37 # just remove the %s from the beginning of the first 3 lines 00.31.52 # Is the h1x0 the same as the recorder? 00.32.05 # oh..all 3 lines? 00.32.20 # there is a .WPS for player and recorder 00.32.22 # yes so it looks like this 00.32.23 # # Default WPS for Recorder 00.32.23 # %?it<%?in<%in. |>%it|%fn> 00.32.23 *** Alert Mode level 2 00.32.23 # %?ia<%ia|%?d2<%d2|(root)>> 00.32.23 *** Alert Mode level 3 00.32.23 # %?id<%id|%?d1<%d1|(root)>> %?iy<(%iy)|> 00.32.23 *** Alert Mode level 4 00.32.23 # %pc/%pt [%pp:%pe] 00.32.25 # %fbkBit %?fv %?iv<(id3v%iv)|(no id3)> 00.32.27 # %pb 00.32.29 # %pm 00.32.33 # wouldnt i just need it for player (i dont use record at all) 00.32.42 # player is an archos model 00.32.44 # The player is actually the name of a device. 00.32.45 # with a very small lcd 00.33.09 # so stryke..all you did was just delete the %s froom first 3 lines correct? 00.33.15 # right 00.33.32 # save that text as a .wps file 00.33.35 # and thats the file i want (NOT the player default .WPS) ? 00.34.03 # right..i couykld call it anything,,,like "scroll.wps" and just put it in .rockbox folder ? 00.34.10 # yes 00.34.14 # There's also a bunch of other WPSes you could try too, if you want to change up how the screen looks. 00.34.18 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsGallery#iriver_H1x0 00.35.44 # thanks Darkk - i have seen that..just want to kill the scroll for now' 00.35.50 # Aah 00.36.01 # stryke..are any spaces necessary? 00.36.23 # nope 00.36.36 # i just copied what you did and also copied the recorder default from the page..there is a line break..do i need that or can all characters run together? 00.36.45 # so just run it all w no spaces? 00.37.04 # %?it<%?in<%in. |>%it|%fn> 00.37.04 # %?ia<%ia|%?d2<%d2|(root)>> 00.37.04 # %?id<%id|%?d1<%d1|(root)>> %?iy<(%iy)|> 00.37.04 DBUG Enqueued KICK susan 00.37.04 # %pc/%pt [%pp:%pe] 00.37.04 # %fbkBit %?fv %?iv<(id3v%iv)|(no id3)> 00.37.04 *** Alert Mode level 5 00.37.04 # %pb 00.37.06 # %pm 00.37.17 # http://home.si.rr.com/hehey/noscroll.wps 00.37.28 # what you have there is perfect 00.39.27 # thnx stryke..i just tried o save it as a works file..my office needs to install something..didnt realize that was a works file 00.40.17 # thanks guys. i need to run my office disk to get office to convert to .WPS....back in a bit..thanks all 00.40.24 # wait - you definitely do't wanna save it as a office file 00.40.28 # *don't 00.40.50 # i know...in ofice...i can save as a .WPS/..that is an option but i need to install a converter patch 00.40.56 # its a plain text file (.txt) with the file extension changed to (.wps) 00.41.07 # i don't believe its the same .wps in office 00.41.15 # but the extension must be .WPS right? 00.41.26 # http://home.si.rr.com/hehey/noscroll.wps 00.41.29 # just download that 00.41.34 # oh no....so what do i do..make it from notepad? 00.41.38 # yes 00.41.45 # notepad works perfectly 00.41.48 Part LinusN 00.42.14 # ok..thanks...bacxk shortly. i need a break...getting a headache :) 00.47.05 *** Alert Mode OFF 00.54.23 Quit lodesi ("Leaving") 00.59.34 # <]RowaN[> what can i use to tag my flac files? i added tags when i made them, but rockbox cant seem to display them 01.00.45 # i would suggest waiting till rockbox supports the tags they have, and recommend against forcing id3 tags on them 01.01.15 # i thought flac had vorbistags? 01.01.33 # i believe so 01.02.28 # only ogg/flac 01.02.30 # I think 01.02.48 # Pure flac uses something else I believe 01.03.04 # <]RowaN[> rockbox just supports pure flac? 01.03.08 # .flac with vorbistags work for me. 01.03.12 # I used Entagged to tag 'em. 01.03.22 # <]RowaN[> Entagged you say =] 01.03.28 # FLAC has it's own native tagging system which is identical to that of Vorbis. They are called alternately "FLAC tags" and "Vorbis comments". It is the only tagging system required and guaranteed to be supported by FLAC implementations. 01.03.28 # Out of convenience, the reference decoder knows how to skip ID3 tags so that they don't interfere with decoding. But you should not expect any tags beside FLAC tags to be supported in applications; some implementations may not even be able to decode a FLAC file with ID3 tags. 01.03.33 # Vorbis Comments, yep 01.03.40 # Entagged indeed. 01.03.53 # Ah, they're identical. How convenient. 01.04.05 # I had some issues with it and ID3 tags on some MP3s not showing up using Tag Database Tool, and never quite figured that out 01.04.14 # But since I moved to Rockbox that hasn't mattered, and all is well. 01.04.32 # according to IriverTesting on the wiki, rockbox does not yet support tags in the wps for FLAC 01.05.01 # It lies 01.05.22 # Title: Thunderstruck, Artist: AC-DC, Album: The Razor's Edge. 01.05.26 # oh, you can confirm 01.05.28 # It's showing on my screen, right now. 01.05.44 # Maximum compression .flac 01.05.58 # tagged on ripping/encoding? 01.06.11 # Created using EAC, and its freedb lookup 01.06.19 # yeah tagged by flac.exe 01.06.40 # Yeah, but I've used Entagged to re-tag FLACs without problems 01.06.49 # <]RowaN[> flac "tag" button doesnt ask me for the title.. only artist and other info 01.06.49 # When I didn't pay attention and it labelled one of my Ozzy albums as Blues. 01.06.49 Quit Moos (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- 100,000+ downloads can't be wrong") 01.06.59 # <]RowaN[> anyway, ill try entagged now 01.07.27 # It seems to work well for me, for Ogg/Vorbis and FLAC especially 01.07.35 # I don't entirely trust it with MP3 for some reason. 01.08.03 # <]RowaN[> bah entagged website dont work in IE, cant see the navigation bars 01.08.38 # <]RowaN[> ahah 01.11.20 # All the audio on my iHP-120 is either FLACs of my CDs, or MP3s from OCremix which come pre-tagged. 01.13.22 # i wouldnt have the space to use flac's only ;) 01.14.58 # 1350 OCremixes, and like 365 flacs. 's enough for me. 01.15.00 # i wish there was more of a chance of MusePack working on the iRiver in the near future 01.15.04 # <]RowaN[> hmm still wont show when ive tagged with Entagged 01.15.28 # I dunno Rowan.. 01.15.41 # Stryke`: hard to make it realtime i guess 01.15.49 # upload one of the flacs somewhere for people to take a look at it 01.15.53 # yeah BBub 01.15.57 # <]RowaN[> let me try .ogg flac 01.15.57 # someone would have to optimize the code 01.16.07 # ]RowaN[: shouldnt work 01.16.14 Nick Stryke` is now known as Stryke|AWAY (~Chairman8@cpe-24-168-110-99.si.res.rr.com) 01.16.14 DBUG Enqueued KICK Stryke|AWAY 01.16.52 # .ogg flacs don't even play yet. 01.17.04 # <]RowaN[> bah whats my problem then 01.18.24 # Are you using the most recent build of it? 01.18.53 # Rockbox that is. 01.20.28 # <]RowaN[> yes 01.20.43 # Hrm 01.21.22 # Y'know what MIGHt be the problem? 01.21.33 # They might not work. 01.21.36 # Heh 01.21.51 # Lemme check something 01.22.38 # <]RowaN[> and one of the flacs i made (which works fine in winamp) seems to stutter/pause every 10secs or so in rockbox 01.23.04 # Doh 01.23.12 # I realized why my ID3 tags seem to work 01.23.29 # Well, Vorbis COmment tags 01.24.06 # Because I generated my directory structure (by random chance) exactly how the WPS I chose to use looks for them in lieu of tags, and since it's generated BY the tags, data matches. 01.25.46 # :( 01.27.15 Ctcp Ignored 3 channel CTCP requests in 44 minutes and 51 seconds at the last flood 01.27.15 # * ]RowaN[ nods and pretends to understand 01.27.41 # FLAC tags don't work. 01.27.58 # I just had things set up perfectly so my WPS could fake it, and I didn't even realize it. 01.27.59 # <]RowaN[> so im not going mad? 01.28.06 # Nope 01.28.09 # Apparently I am instead. 01.28.11 # <]RowaN[> well, not in this sense 01.28.15 Nick Stryke|AWAY is now known as Stryke` (~Chairman8@cpe-24-168-110-99.si.res.rr.com) 01.28.15 DBUG Enqueued KICK Stryke` 01.29.01 # <]RowaN[> im getting some stutters in other flacs too 01.29.05 # would it be appropriate to say 'told you so' ;-) 01.29.30 # <]RowaN[> if you cant say anything nice.. 01.29.53 # just kidding of course 01.29.56 # It would Stryke. 01.29.58 # It really would. 01.30.09 # i suppose that your wps handles it quite well then 01.30.23 # I just grabbed a cookie cutter one from the gallery 01.30.35 # some form of Artist/Album/File.mp3 directory structure? 01.30.42 # Exactly 01.30.46 # The standard one everybody uses. 01.30.55 # Well, not everybody 01.30.58 # But lazy people 01.31.03 # i like Artist/Year - Album/File 01.31.18 # I'm not good with dates. 01.31.32 # And yeah, a couple of my FLACs stutter too 01.31.41 # What level of compression are you using? 01.31.44 # higher compressed? 01.32.50 # <]RowaN[> most compressed i do my flacs (lossless, so, a no brainer??) 01.32.59 # Yeah. 01.33.01 # Same here. 01.33.11 # Someone mentioned that decompressing the more compressed ones is a bit more CPU intensive. 01.33.13 # <]RowaN[> more confirmations that im not mad, yey 01.34.01 # It usually only happens a little bit at the beginning of a song, if ever for me. 01.34.35 # <]RowaN[> with a flac i just made, theres a stutter about 1 min in, and thats it.. with an older flac theres a stutter like every 10 secs 01.34.46 Join BePe86 [0] (~50d5bc0d@labb.contactor.se) 01.34.59 # Hrm 01.35.08 # hello guys, I'm having trouble with the win32 sim for h120 01.35.18 # i've finally compiled it and it appears to be working 01.35.33 # but every time I try to play a song, an error message appears 01.35.57 # rockboxui.exe - Bad Image 01.36.10 # Well, reencoding flacs may take a bit, but hey, no quality loss. Though I imagine if they make the codec a little more efficient those will clear out (assuming that's possible.) But right now you may just want to knock it down to default compression. 01.36.14 # See if that helps 01.36.57 # <]RowaN[> i'll wait, ive only got lik 4 flacs vs 1000+ mp3s =] 01.37.48 # Hehehe 01.37.52 # I've got 350 flacs... heh. 01.38.14 # The application ir dkk f:\build\archos\_temp_image.dll is not a valid Windows image. ... bla bla bla 01.38.39 # sorry, The application in dir f:\build\archos\_temp_image.dll is not a valid Windows image. ... bla bla bla 01.39.03 # whoops, typos again 01.39.04 # hang on 01.40.11 # "The application or DLL F:\build\archos\.rockbox\rocks\battery_test.rock is not a valid Winodws image. Please check this against your installation diskette." 01.40.25 # anyone else with this error? 01.44.56 # I haven't built any but the iHP-1X0 sim. 01.46.12 # i'm glad I found this firmware, can't wait to get my H120 flashed... too bad I don't have an USB cable right now :/ 01.46.50 # That makes it just a wee bit difficult. 01.47.07 # yeah 01.47.59 # Y'know, I think besides FLAC support, the new feature I've used the most is actually the Sokoban plugin. 01.53.35 Quit Stryke` ("Friends don't let friends listen to Anti-Flag") 01.55.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.55.47 # We open the real file 'archos/.rockbox/codecs/mpa.codec' failed to load archos/_temp_codec.dll dlopen(archos/_temp_codec.dll): ~♀B 01.55.57 # that's the error from the console 02.02.17 Join DarkkOne_ [0] (~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 02.03.07 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 02.03.07 # * DarkkOne_ mutters 02.03.29 Join DJ_Dooms_Day [0] (~scottr@220-245-186-182.tpgi.com.au) 02.08.33 # BePe86: when do you get that error? 02.08.33 Quit austriancoder ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.13.41 Quit DarkkOne (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.14.36 Nick DarkkOne_ is now known as DarkkOne (~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 02.15.59 # ah, when you try to play a song. Doesn't happen here. Doesn't play either though. 02.17.16 # do you need to enable sound in the w32 sim? 02.26.52 # Hey, when upgrading the rockbox bootloader do i just overwrite it or do i have to unload it first? 02.30.59 # Just reflash with a patched firmware 02.31.33 Quit webguest47 ("CGI:IRC") 02.48.44 # Anyone alive? 02.49.50 Quit DarkkOne ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.6/20050716]") 02.54.28 # Where can i find the devkit? 02.59.56 Join ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-122-175.VIC.netspace.net.au) 03.00.57 # Where can i find the devkit? 03.08.05 Quit hicks ("Too lazy to change my quit message") 03.50.33 Quit CheeseBurgerMan (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.55.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.02.57 Join webguest53 [0] (~446392b8@labb.contactor.se) 04.03.44 Quit webguest53 (Client Quit) 04.05.48 Join QT_ [0] (as@area51.users.madwifi) 04.09.19 Join DarkkOne [0] (~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 04.10.37 Join CheeseBurgerMan [0] (~BurgerBoy@tc2-225-085.altelco.net) 04.16.58 Quit QT (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04.29.03 Quit DarkkOne ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.6/20050716]") 04.31.37 Quit BePe86 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 04.46.49 Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.52.59 Join edx [0] (edx@p54A8DE98.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.02.00 Join BBub_ [0] (belzebub16@dsl-082-082-244-207.arcor-ip.net) 05.08.06 Join amiconn_ [0] (~jens@p54BD69E2.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.18.33 Join Febs [0] (~chatzilla@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 05.19.14 Quit BBub (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.25.30 Quit BBub_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.25.47 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.25.47 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (~jens@p54BD69E2.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.32.49 Quit susan ("CGI:IRC") 05.34.10 Quit Febs ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.5/20050711]") 05.46.13 Nick CheeseBurgerMan is now known as CBM-away (~BurgerBoy@tc2-225-085.altelco.net) 05.55.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.56.27 Quit CBM-away ("An eye for an eye only makes the whole world blind.") 06.02.44 Join CheeseBurgerMan [0] (~BurgerBoy@tc2-225-085.altelco.net) 06.03.41 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 06.43.46 Nick CheeseBurgerMan is now known as CBM-away (~BurgerBoy@tc2-225-085.altelco.net) 07.02.16 Join BBub [0] (belzebub16@dsl-082-082-244-207.arcor-ip.net) 07.41.26 Nick Strath is now known as StrathAFK (mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a204.wi.tds.net) 07.46.13 Join adiamas [0] (~adiamas@ool-435559f8.dyn.optonline.net) 07.46.39 Quit adiamas ("Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.6/20050716]") 07.48.22 Join adiamas [0] (~adiamas@ool-435559f8.dyn.optonline.net) 07.49.48 Quit adiamas (Client Quit) 07.51.35 Join adiamas [0] (~adiamas@ool-435559f8.dyn.optonline.net) 07.55.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.04.52 Join Coldtoast [0] (edan@ppp111-3.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net) 08.59.22 Quit DJ_Dooms_Day () 08.59.22 Quit Coldtoast (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.01.20 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 09.01.50 Join ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-122-175.VIC.netspace.net.au) 09.05.43 Quit pike (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.17.57 Quit matsl ("Leaving") 09.22.24 Join matsl_ [0] (~matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 09.24.25 Join ghostiger [0] ([U2FsdGVkX@19555d881cdb2614.session.tor) 09.30.17 Quit matsl_ ("Leaving") 09.55.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.14.36 Join ghode|afk [0] (~dude@host-212-158-194-188.bulldogdsl.com) 10.14.38 Join Coldtoast [0] (edan@ppp111-3.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net) 10.15.40 Join pike [0] (~amiga@c83-249-120-126.bredband.comhem.se) 10.40.49 Part amiconn 10.43.27 Quit gromit`` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.48.51 Join Lear [0] (~chatzilla@h143n1c1o285.bredband.skanova.com) 10.50.36 Join gromit` [0] (~gromit`@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 11.16.00 # I REALLY REALLY like the new Mix mode 11.16.24 # heh, and i wondered what use it is of :) 11.17.16 # really? 11.17.31 # it's far more "natural" 11.17.49 # oh, maybe then 11.17.53 # i don't use crossfade either, though 11.17.59 # ah. ok 11.18.16 # i would if there was an option to turn it off in automatic song changes :) 11.18.42 # so you'd just want it on manual track skipping? 11.18.46 # yes 11.18.55 # heh. to me that seems odd 11.19.18 # i don't know why would i want crossfade on automatic song changes 11.19.21 Join lodesi [0] (~moi@l04m-212-194-52-127.d4.club-internet.fr) 11.19.23 # hi 11.19.29 # it'll break gapless and the natural progression of an album 11.19.32 # but in shuffle mode, maybe... 11.21.46 # coldtoast: and the volume during the mix is good? 11.22.09 Quit pike () 11.23.35 # Lear: thx for the help yesterday,i have able my problem :) 11.23.42 # to solve* 11.23.50 # you're welcome 11.24.58 # Lear: yep. seems just right to me 11.25.32 # okay, I was just wondering, because the code just adds the sample values. looked a bit too simple to me. :) 11.25.37 # crwl: well, gapless isn't really particularly high on my list of thing sI really wanted 11.26.12 # really? well, seems to be working fine to me. I like how it's implemented 11.27.23 Join adiamas_ [0] (~adiamas@ool-435559f8.dyn.optonline.net) 11.27.50 Join pike [0] (pike@c83-249-120-126.bredband.comhem.se) 11.28.59 # on teh Rio Karma, how good IS the gapless? 11.29.06 # does it work 100% of the time? 11.30.05 # I don't seem to have many albums that play gapless. There's a split second of silence on track change 11.30.54 # its very good 11.31.19 # from what i understand they've worked out several different checks and methods that get applied to guarantee foolproof gapless 11.31.47 # cool 11.32.08 # I like crossfade far more myself 11.32.15 # its got that too 11.32.21 # nice! 11.33.49 # hmm. can you just dump tracks onto it the same way you can with iriver? 11.33.57 # or does it have to go thru this Music Manager thing? 11.34.46 # http://www.eng.fsu.edu/~faizalmi/store/carbon/rio01.jpg 11.34.50 Join adiamas__ [0] (~adiamas@ool-435559f8.dyn.optonline.net) 11.34.52 Quit ghode|afk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.35.05 # nice display! I liek the multiple font sizes 11.36.51 # it uses musicmanager... they're supposedly working on a fw upgrade for the karma that makes the fs fat32 and makes it usb mass storage compliant, but thats been something they've been supposedly working on for some time now... i dunno if it'll ever actually happen 11.37.06 # hmm. ok 11.37.22 # if it had that, I migh tactually buy one 11.37.36 # i use the java version of the music manager lite, over the ethernet connection, on linux... it works quite well, even being java 11.38.00 # had a look at an ipod mini the other day. first time I'd held one 11.38.05 # heh 11.38.06 # and they're really not THAT small 11.38.16 # i won't be impressed till they're microscopic 11.38.32 # and they better have >=terabytes at that point too 11.38.32 # it was in an iskin tho 11.38.44 # but it wasn't much smaller than my h140 or lighter 11.39.00 # and my h140 has an ipod battery in it. 2200mAh one 11.39.14 # heh 11.39.44 # I honestly think that particular upgrade, the ipod battery one, is a must-do 11.39.52 # it's SO damn cheap and SO damn easy 11.40.16 # oh! wonder if Cassandra received her new battery 11.40.50 # coldtoast: it is? would be nice with better run-time... :) 11.41.08 # yeah. the batteries cost, like, $17US with shipping. heh 11.41.35 # all you need to do is swap the wires in the connector on the battery 11.41.46 # polarity is the reverse of what the ipod uses 11.42.06 # do you need to solder for that, or just plug something the "other way around"? 11.42.17 # takes about 20mins to change the connector polarity, open teh player, install it, close it all up 11.42.20 # nope 11.42.25 # no soldering 11.42.34 # the connector is exactly the same but you have to swap the wires 11.42.40 # easily done with a pin 11.42.45 Join webguest98 [0] (~5087bcf7@labb.contactor.se) 11.43.14 # lift the little bit of plastic on the connector holding each wire in, pull it out, swap them and re-insert into connector 11.43.39 # then connect it to the player and close it up 11.43.49 # The Rio Karma does LAME encoded files perfectly gapless, it uses a heuristic model to achieve gapless for non LAME mp3's 11.44.43 # Lear: it's kinda cool seeing Rockbox report 27hrs, 30mins of remaining battery. heh 11.44.57 # and if the battery fits in an ipod, it'll fit an h140? I read something about slightly different thickness... 11.45.00 # I've not done a battery test tho 11.45.13 # it's slightly thicker than the h140 battery but fits easily 11.45.33 # it's not a tight squeeze but it's "snug" 11.45.35 # i think about 18-20 hours is easily achieavable with the 2200 mAh battery, even with some fiddling and track changing and other files than just 128 kbps mp3 11.45.41 # the battery fits even h120 11.45.48 # it's closer to 24hrs crash__ 11.46.22 # I've had mine in my h140 for 2 weeks now and I've charged it twice 11.46.32 # only use it 2-3hrs a day tho 11.46.46 # sometimes more 11.47.00 # any news on replaygain for the H140 ? 11.47.21 # so maybe 3hrs while I'm out and anoithe rhour or so of fiddlign around, doing stuff 11.47.22 # hm... wonder where I can find one in Sweden... 11.47.36 # ebay 11.47.44 # http://search.ebay.com.au/2200mah_W0QQsofocusZsoQQsbrftogZ1QQfromZR10QQsacatZ-1QQcatrefZC6QQflocZ1QQsargnZ-1QQsaslcZ2QQsadisZ200QQfposZPostcodeQQga10244Z10425QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQfsopZ1QQfsooZ1QQcoactionZcompareQQcopagenumZ1QQcoentrypageZsearch 11.48.02 # it's 2200mah, ist and 2nd gen ipod 11.48.06 # ist=1st 11.48.11 # that's what yo look for on ebay 11.48.27 # I bought from "ezipda" cos they have a 1yr warranty 11.48.59 # cant wait for the next gen Karma to come out, gapless and replaygain support out the box 11.49.04 Part webguest98 11.49.29 Quit adiamas (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.49.50 # I love my h140. I have no real desire for anything else 11.49.52 # I have vorbisgain support here... :) 11.49.56 Quit adiamas_ (Connection timed out) 11.50.29 # I liek the way it looks. the construction, the fact it now has rockbox, the battery life 11.50.41 # had it since Nov last year and there's still not a single mark on it 11.50.48 # and I just use the stock case it came with 11.51.02 Join webguest53 [0] (~5087bcf7@labb.contactor.se) 11.51.33 # for me its the quality of the sound which is important, it is after all a mp3 player 11.52.03 # no. it's a DAP actually 11.52.22 # and there's certainly nothign wrogn with the sound quality of the h140 11.52.24 # yes so, the sound is still important 11.52.29 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 11.52.40 # iriver has excellent sound quality 11.52.51 # I doubt Rio has better 11.52.58 # yes it does 11.53.00 # I KNOW ipod doesn't 11.53.06 # how so? 11.53.18 # Rio'es gspless is outstanding 11.53.23 # gapless 11.53.26 # that's not sound qwuality 11.53.37 # for me its all about the sound 11.53.45 # that's NOT sound qualityt ho 11.53.52 # preventing clipping would also be usefull 11.53.59 # which the iriver does 11.54.05 # hence replaygain support 11.54.24 # not its not perfact on the H140 11.54.48 # the iriver firmware doesn't clip 11.54.52 # nor does rockbox 11.54.57 # yes it does 11.55.03 # and they're using different methods to avoid it 11.55.11 # such as 11.55.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.55.35 # the iriver fw avoids clipping by limiting EQ and rockbox does it by limiting volume 11.55.36 # I suggest you read up on replay gain to understand input clipping 11.56.03 # its not about volume clipping 11.56.22 # to avoid input clipping, encode your shit properly 11.56.39 # yes I do, with EAC and LAME@aps 11.56.55 # you dont understand replaygain and its function 11.57.56 # just for the record, I've NEVER heard clippign with anything on either rockbox or the iriver fw 11.57.58 # ever 11.58.20 # you should encode your shit properly :) 11.58.25 # it is 11.58.31 # I also use EAC+Lame 11.58.49 # and anything I get from other ppl, I MP3Gain 11.59.00 # do you know what the purpose of replaygain is 11.59.05 # sure 11.59.11 # its TOTALYY different to mp3gain 11.59.24 # mp3gain is shite 12.00.06 # the point I'm making is I don't leave it up tho the player to sort out the gain of anything I have on it 12.00.38 # and I'm quite sure irockbox will have good replaygain support 12.00.56 # so it's a no-brainer as far as I'm concerned 12.01.01 # once again, mp3gain is NOT the same as replaygain 12.01.12 # thanks for the info 12.01.28 # I don't have anything that suffers clipping at teh moment and if, in fure, I DO have tracks that will rely on replaygain, it'll be there 12.01.43 # do me a favour. Paste exactly WHERE I said that 12.01.44 # ? 12.02.11 # thanks for the info, hows the weather in Australia 12.02.17 # what info? 12.02.37 # well, as you obviously think I have no idea what you're talking about, I'm off to get food 12.02.52 #