--- Log for 24.07.105 Server: tolkien.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 day and 14 hours ago 00.08.40 Quit Moos (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC with a difference") 00.10.17 Join XavierGr [0] (~XavierGr@ppp13-adsl-50.ath.forthnet.gr) 00.21.34 Join t0mas|laptop [0] (~tomas@ip503c08d1.speed.planet.nl) 00.21.36 # hi 00.21.37 # :D 00.21.39 # * t0mas|laptop is back 00.21.43 Join BePe86 [0] (~50d5bc0d@labb.contactor.se) 00.21.54 # damn I missed rockbox for 2 weeks :) 00.22.02 # still having trouble with win32 simulator for h120 00.22.08 # hi t0mas! 00.22.08 # following error pops up in the console: 00.22.09 # We open the real file 'archos/.rockbox/codecs/mpa.codec' failed to load archos/_temp_codec.dll Blopen(archos/_temp_codec.dll): ■ 00.22.28 # hi XavierGr 00.22.36 # the files excists in the correct folders 00.23.15 Quit BePe86 (Client Quit) 00.23.20 Join bepe86 [0] (~50d5bc0d@labb.contactor.se) 00.24.35 # Does anyone remember how can I add my changes (for several files) to the latest build? 00.24.43 # yes 00.24.48 # :) 00.24.50 # cvs commit files1.c file2.c file3.c 00.25.14 # but this is a commot command. I dont have cvs access 00.25.20 # oooh 00.25.24 # then test for all builds 00.25.27 # and email me 00.25.32 # or someone else with cvs access 00.25.48 # no I dont want it commited. I just want to update my build. 00.26.00 # ooooh 00.26.07 # cvs diff -u > patch.diff 00.26.10 # and then update 00.26.15 # and patch < patch.diff 00.26.54 # so nothing will be lost? I mean my build hasn't got the new cvs changes, and cvs hasn't got my changes. 00.27.01 # but it will give some error's if the changes are in the same files 00.27.14 # well... first backup copy your changes 00.27.18 # and then try this 00.28.00 # that's the idea I would update manually just adding my modified files, but my files are updated to something newer... 00.28.28 # how's the remote support going then? 00.28.35 # got anything usable? 00.28.39 # I don know anything 00.28.45 # damn... I missed way to much :P 00.29.02 # sorry. that was for XavierGr 00.29.11 # ah he did something? 00.29.12 # cool :D 00.29.25 # XavierGr? documented it somewhere? or have to time update me? 00.29.36 # *the time 00.29.59 # Coldtoast: well I didn't have much time to do something. I just fixed the remote caption backlight 00.30.10 # t0mas:sure 00.30.14 # hmm. ok 00.30.52 # t0mas: What I did was a quick mod of tree.c wps.c and wps-display.c to have remote rendering. 00.30.57 # I did this by... 00.31.34 # replicating all lines that have "lcd_" functions to "lcd_remote" ones 00.31.38 # though... 00.32.02 # haha 00.32.05 # I did that too 00.33.11 # this is a dirty one and cant be commited because there are some bugs. The most annoying is that the height is defined before rendering (has to do with file tree logic) and the remote hides some lines. Fortunately I made an option for proper remote display (then the main screen is cut in half for the file tree view) 00.33.39 Nick Strath is now known as StrathAFK (mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a204.wi.tds.net) 00.33.59 # One thing that it is worth commiting is that I add all possible LCD options for the remote. 00.34.37 # that sounds like a good one 00.34.44 # Such as : Caption Backlight, Scrolling options, Show Icons, Line Selector, Scrollbar-Statusbar. e.t.c 00.35.04 # we should organize the menu a bit better 00.35.18 # as this is slowly becomming a mess 00.35.36 # t0mas: link -> http://www.misticriver.net/boards/showthread.php?t=25650. 00.35.48 # ^ without the '.' in the end 00.36.18 # Organize the settings menu you mean? 00.36.45 # yes 00.36.49 # or all menus 00.37.09 # do you mind if I start hacking on your remote stuff? 00.37.22 # Well I think that setting menus aren't so congested (too many options) except if you mean something else 00.37.28 # By all means no 00.37.30 # I'm going to me bored tomorrow... so it would be great to fix that 00.37.33 # do whatever you want 00.37.37 # hmm. is it really a good idea to post non-official builds tho XavierGr? 00.37.53 # well... Coldtoast... it is... 00.38.00 # but maybe it's better to post a patch 00.38.00 # hmmmm. ok..... 00.38.12 # so only people with a dev env. can do something with it 00.38.20 # see, to me that seems like you're opening yourself up to a MASSIVE headache 00.38.23 # Well cant do anything else. I do this more for myself because I am dying using the remote (the only think that kept me away from rockbox) 00.39.03 # And I am not responsible for that changes, though I use them myself all the time with out any danger. 00.39.06 # Coldtoast: if you just post a patch on the rockbox forum you don't get that much questions 00.39.20 # just look at your thread there for example. already you get a bunch of ppl with bug reports. When you post a build, in a way you're committed to fixing any bugs 00.39.21 # oh that was my other problem :( 00.39.27 # my iriver firmware doesn't work anymore 00.39.37 # so I'm going to hack on that first tomorrow 00.39.46 # how did you managed that? 00.39.55 # rename a playlist it was playing 00.40.20 # Coldtoast: you are... but is that a problem? in the end... we all want it bugfree... so I don't mind getting bugreports 00.40.28 # on original f/w or on rockbox? 00.40.35 # I renamed it from rockbox 00.40.47 # well, I just think it's better to keep it all together 00.40.53 # and the original doesn't boot now... I think because it can't find the playlist 00.41.00 # and how that prevent you from booting original f/w 00.41.08 # oh 00.41.11 # rather than having ppl with individual little branches, no matter how minor. But anyway 00.41.11 # it stops after reading filesystem 00.41.30 # make another playlist with the same name? maybe? 00.41.37 # yes, going to try that 00.41.44 # Coldtoast: I said patches... 00.42.03 # then you don't have separate branches 00.42.19 # oh. I'm talkign about building stuff for ppl to dl and install on their players 00.42.44 # Coldtoast: What do you suggest. Amiconn said that there is no priority for the remote. I was dying for it. Took the courage to see the code and made the remote build. Then I thought that many people would want it. So I posted it. 00.43.36 # Patches arent for normal users. Some time I have problems to apply a patch. 00.44.11 # I suggest... maybe you being the "remote guy" and posting things to be committed to the official builds 00.44.49 # it's only not a priority cos nobody's working on it, isn't it? 00.45.06 # so if you step up and decide to work on the remote, cool 00.46.51 # Well the problem Coldtoast is, that my coding skill are limited and far for enabling me to make proper changes to code. If had the skills and my code was mature, nothing would be of a hassle. Someone would just commit my code. But this is not the case 00.46.54 # I know I'm one of the ppl who really would like a fully functional remote : 00.47.52 # I realise it's open source and therefore ppl can do what they like, pretty much. heh 00.48.06 # dunno. I kinda just think it's a potential mess 00.49.06 # well I think that this is a temporary solution for remote fans. Maybe I could improve my coding and make something worth commitment... 00.49.12 Join the_winch [0] (~david@195.60.16.190) 00.49.18 # just an opinion, obviously. like arseholes, we all have em 00.49.39 # I will try to help with the remote 00.49.42 # So will you be using my build in the end? 00.49.49 # me? 00.49.50 # tomorrow... after my iriver firmware works again 00.50.24 # :) thanks t0mas I trust you as a skilled coder (opposite to my bad skils) 00.50.39 # yes Coldtoast you. 00.50.39 # don't put to much trust in my coding skills... 00.50.48 # I haven't touched a keybord in 3 weeks 00.51.00 # Where you were lost man? 00.51.17 # well nah. I'll just wait for support in a bleedign edge build 00.51.20 Quit the_winch (Client Quit) 00.51.28 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 00.51.42 # I'm used to using the remote with no display now 00.51.54 # XavierGr: St. Tropez :D 00.51.58 # plus at the moment I like looking at my WPS :) 00.52.11 # it's booful 00.52.17 # screenshot! 00.52.19 # :P 00.52.21 # the upper part of WPS cant be rendered in the remote. 00.52.54 Join the_winch [0] (~the_winch@195.60.16.190) 00.52.54 # (all can be rendered but if the font is big only this that can fit the remote screen) 00.53.21 # (oh and peak meters or progress bars cant currently work on the remote) 00.53.53 # why not make a very simple default remote wps? independant of the normal one? 00.54.09 # and then build on that for a configurable nice wps 00.54.11 # it's 9am here. I better get some sleep 00.54.19 # well that need to make a new wps.c and a wps-display.c 00.54.37 Quit Coldtoast ("Peace and Protection 4.22") 00.54.47 # or should I say a remote-wps.c and a remote-wps-disply.c 00.55.40 # t0mas:cvs diff: No CVSROOT specified! Please use the `-d' option 00.55.41 # cvs [diff aborted]: or set the CVSROOT environment variable. 00.56.23 Quit west-acre ("—I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— 2.0 Build 3515") 00.57.03 # XavierGr: then cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@www.rockbox.org:/cvsroot/rockbox diff -u 00.57.10 # or something like that... 00.57.27 # check the wiki page about cvs... I can't remember how anonymous login worked 01.01.27 # *yawns* 01.01.36 # I've been in the car the whole day... 01.01.48 # drove from St. Tropez to Holland in 1 day 01.02.06 # so I'm going upstairs... 01.02.10 # c u 01.02.12 Quit t0mas|laptop ("Leaving") 01.05.46 Join t0mas [0] (~Tomas@ip503c08d1.speed.planet.nl) 01.06.02 # bye t0mas! 01.06.39 # Tomorrow maybe I will be in my village so for a couple of day I will be off-line 01.07.11 # I hope we will talk a little (for the remote) tomorrow before I leave 01.14.11 # yes I'm here now ;) 01.14.20 # and you know my email address? 01.18.21 # oh no... 01.18.32 # is it written on IRC nicks? 01.25.39 # ehm 01.25.43 # it's on my wiki page 01.25.51 # but it's firstname@lastname.nl 01.25.58 # Tomas Salfischberger 01.26.00 # is my name :) 01.26.23 # (anti spam-harvesting... logs are on the internet) 01.29.04 # ok got it 01.29.09 # :) 01.29.17 # stupid iriver firmware still doesn't boot btw... 01.29.40 # As soon as I manage to update my build to the latest one. (inlude cvs changes) I will send you the source and a patch 01.36.40 Join DT1233 [0] (~DT1233@81-86-115-62.dsl.pipex.com) 01.37.33 # hm... 01.38.15 # * t0mas is wondering what the address of the EEPROM is 01.38.47 # are you sure that it's the deleted playlist to blame? 01.38.57 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 01.39.04 Quit DT1233 (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- 100,000+ downloads can't be wrong") 01.40.04 # no I'm not sure 01.40.19 # but I'm almost sure :) 01.40.28 # it is that.. or the disk editing by rockbox... 01.40.36 # so I'm going to run scandisk tomorrow 01.41.04 # and after that... It's time to get digging in the EEPROM... to find out what iriver f/w tries to read 01.41.19 # a format maybe more of help 01.41.32 # maybe... 01.41.46 # which bootloader you got? 01.41.53 # that's the problem :) 01.42.00 # I thought so 01.42.00 # and old 1... (but with bootloader usb mode) 01.42.15 # I don't need the iriver f/w... only for updating the bootloader 01.42.35 # nice if you have USB bootlaoder support 01.42.40 # yes 01.42.42 # no need to worry for the format 01.42.45 # but maybe linus will take a shot at writing the rom from rockbox some day 01.42.53 # then I don't need the iriver f/w at all 01.43.27 # It will be a coll day when the iriver f/w hasn't got anything better than Rockbox 01.43.35 # ^cool 01.44.03 # literally ;) 01.44.12 # it won't be done before winter ;-) 01.48.23 # probably 01.48.44 # in the mean time I have a hard time updating my files to latest build and include my changes. 01.49.18 # I have downloaded latest build. and I have my modded files to a folder. 01.49.45 # now I want to see the differences between these files and add the changes to the latest build 01.50.20 # other way is to manually see each change and write it my self but this is an overkill 01.51.15 # diff -u 01.51.21 # diff -u file1 file2 01.51.29 # then you have all differences between the files 01.52.00 # I will try that 01.55.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.56.26 # ok I've got the changes. Now I want to ADD the my differences to the latest 01.57.28 # because the produced patch has a '-' sign in all my changes. 01.57.57 # erm... 01.58.03 # diff -u file2 file1 01.58.08 # you had the wrong order... 01.58.12 # ah ok 01.58.34 Join Febs [0] (~chatzilla@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 01.59.32 # but... I'm too tired to work on... 01.59.38 # maybe I am mistaken. If I do the latest all the new changes (commited) will be removed 01.59.44 # I'm continuing tomorrow ok? 01.59.49 # ok 01.59.58 # yes, the new changes will be removed 02.00.04 # so you have to checkout the old version 02.00.13 # what date is the source you made your changes on? 02.00.31 # 20 of july 02.00.35 # you should diff between that clean version... and your changed version 02.00.48 # then you have only +es for your changes 02.00.54 Join TCK [0] (TCK@81-86-96-115.dsl.pipex.com) 02.00.56 # and then you can try to apply that to the new sources 02.01.09 Quit Febs (Client Quit) 02.01.29 # good night 02.01.29 # ah got it! 02.01.34 Quit t0mas ("c u tomorrow") 02.01.35 # thanks and good night 02.05.38 Quit the_winch ("x") 02.06.36 Join Febs [0] (~chatzilla@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 02.06.41 # hi Fwbs 02.06.51 # ^Febs 02.10.31 Nick CBM-away is now known as CheeseBurgerMan (~BurgerBoy@tc2-225-085.altelco.net) 02.26.57 Quit XavierGr () 02.33.06 Join cYmen_ [0] 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I'm not sure 12.41.09 # strange 12.41.39 # anybody reported this before :( 12.43.08 # where? 12.43.11 # misticrivier? 12.45.34 # *nobody scuse, it why is strange 12.47.14 # what version of bootloader have you? 12.49.07 Quit rooomish2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.49.39 # lunch time here :) 13.01.29 Join Coldtoast [0] (~edan@ppp111-3.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net) 13.13.56 Join amiconn [0] (jens@pD9F4C003.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.14.02 # Moos: version 1 13.14.08 # hi amiconn 13.14.31 # hi 13.15.38 # eh. can't believe I just PAID for frigging firmware for my router 13.18.35 # :| 13.18.37 # what brand? 13.18.55 # Linksys 13.19.28 # there's also an opensource firmware fir linksys routers isn't it? 13.19.32 # *for 13.19.42 # yeah. the Linksys fw is opensource 13.19.53 # Sveasoft charge $20 for their version of it 13.19.56 # then what have you payed for? 13.20.01 # ah 13.20.06 # good question. heh 13.20.08 # and it's really great? 13.20.14 # I'll fin dout anyway 13.20.25 # and are they allowed to sell it? 13.20.27 # it's supposed to be the most fully featured 13.20.36 # I would email linksys about it... don't think they like this 13.20.42 # well, that's something ppl question 13.20.52 # they MUST know about it 13.20.57 # linksys firmware is GPL right? 13.21.01 # yeah 13.21.09 # and you got the source with that sold version? 13.21.15 # or isn't it based on linksys firmware? 13.21.16 # furthermore... it's $20 a YEAR 13.21.29 # hold on 13.21.32 # I'll get you a link 13.21.56 # http://wrt54g.thermoman.de/ 13.22.17 # there's no reason they a) can't mix in some of their own gear, and charge money for that, plus distribution of the gpl stuff they used from linksys 13.22.26 # s/a)// 13.22.38 # after all, redhat does it all the time 13.22.42 # but they must give you the sources 13.23.12 # t0mas: to the gpl stuff, sure 13.23.14 Join hicks [0] (~hicks@zeus.mups.co.uk) 13.23.22 # not if they've written their own programs to go with it 13.23.48 # and if they didn't modify any of the gpl stuff, they can settle for giving you a link to the original source's location 13.25.31 # yes 13.25.44 # but it looks like they based a new firmware on a GPL based one 13.25.55 # and they have to give you the sources then... 13.26.24 # that depends what they modified, and how they added stuff 13.26.41 # after all, just because the linux kernel is GPL, doesn't mean that all ELF binaries that run on it need to be GPL as well 13.26.55 # there's been a bit of a kafuffle over the Sveasoft situation for some tme now tho 13.27.10 # anywya. I've ended up subscribing 13.27.47 # the only thing I AM dubious about is the fact they SEEMINGLY want the MAC of my router befor eI can download 13.27.53 # Anyone who knows how accurate the tick is? For measuring time, that is... 13.29.10 # Coldtoast: sounds about right. to stop their own software from working in extra routers, they're perfectly well within their rights to have it refuse to run on routers with a different MAC address 13.29.19 # regardless if some parts of the software are GPL 13.29.21 # or not 13.30.20 # Lear: The tick is accurate (typical crystal oscillator) as long as no boost/ unboost transition occurs 13.30.56 # Each boost/ unboost adds an uncertainty of <= 10 ms 13.30.56 # ashridah: that's all well and good, but they ALSO want the MACs of the machines connected 13.31.06 # I don't think I agree with that AT ALL 13.31.06 # Well, I was trying to time a codec (with the CPU boosted all the time), but I got fairly large fluctuations in time. 13.31.21 # yeah, that's getting a bit far 13.31.31 # dunno tho. I may not have to supply it 13.31.43 # just joined their IRC chan so I'll ask what the deal is there 13.31.45 # just give them a list of contiguous MAC addresses, and then just change the mac addresses of all of your machines to match ;) 13.31.55 # heh 13.45.01 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 13.56.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.58.36 Quit t0mas ("brb.. reboot...") 14.17.05 Quit Coldtoast (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.48.16 Join t0mas [0] (~Tomas@ip503c08d1.speed.planet.nl) 14.51.50 # Hi. I've looked around a bit and couldn't find any evidence that this is a known issue, so I thought I would mention it here. Please forgive me if this is known already. I have a couple vorbis files that are encoded at a high bitrate (Q10 ~600kb). 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freenode weed out clonebots, please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup' 17.10.13 Nick Lear_away is now known as Lear (~chatzilla@h143n1c1o285.bredband.skanova.com) 17.18.06 Quit XavierGr () 17.25.57 Join Febs [0] (~Febs@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 17.29.37 Quit webguest07 ("CGI:IRC") 17.34.19 # Hm.. 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 18.25.50 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@carlsberg.heim2.tu-clausthal.de) 18.27.39 Quit einhirn (Client Quit) 18.27.45 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@carlsberg.heim2.tu-clausthal.de) 18.31.49 Join CBM-away [0] (~BurgerBoy@208.170.225.85) 18.58.06 Join SmoothGuy69 [0] (~a@194.223.152.82) 18.58.07 # hi 18.58.20 # guys shall i buy the color iriver or the older black and white one 18.58.30 # i think the scroll is too slow on color 18.58.40 # what makes the rockbox version better scroller? 18.58.46 Quit Coldtoast (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.00.56 Join webguest32 [0] (~4490e0f7@labb.contactor.se) 19.03.31 # I'm a longtime lurker - been reading the IRC logs on and off for months. Just had to stop by to express my delight with the progress on the iRiver Rockbox front. With the latest addition of replaygain support, I'm as happy as a pig in .... (well, you know :) Great job folks - and thanks Lear for the replaygain especially. :) 19.03.49 # what, is replaygain already there? :) 19.03.53 # what's so good baout it 19.03.56 # replaygain? 19.04.03 # i am totally new to iriver and rockbox 19.04.04 # :)( 19.04.58 # replaygain adjusts the playback volume so that is sounds equally loud for all your files 19.05.16 Quit webguest32 (Client Quit) 19.05.19 Join webguest32 [0] (~4490e0f7@labb.contactor.se) 19.05.43 # For a good explanation, check out http://replaygain.hydrogenaudio.org/technical_outline.html 19.06.03 # guys how do you get around the horrible scroll prob 19.06.06 # ie too slow 19.06.21 # i took my ipod apart and soldered the scroll wheel to the front of the iriver, works good. 19.09.49 # The scroll speed is completely configurable in Rockbox settings... 19.10.05 # can it go from slow to fast? 19.10.12 # is there scroll speed for the color 20gb iriver? 19.10.26 # Yes. 19.10.29 # really iriver suck for that stupid 4x scroll speed 19.10.51 # webguest32 - is that rockbox firmware scroll speed for color? 19.10.55 # There is no Rockbox for any of the colour iRiver devices 19.10.59 # cuz i tried the normal one 19.11.00 # ah damn. 19.11.06 # should i try get black and white one? 19.11.46 # B&W 20hb - 125 Colour - 180 19.11.47 Join uski [0] (uski@62.147.9.51) 19.11.53 # i can watch scarface on the color one tho 19.11.53 # :) 19.12.01 # mo0 19.12.05 # woof! 19.12.22 # Eventually there will be a version of Rockbox for the H3xx colour devices 19.12.33 # that would be nice. 19.12.49 # what one shud i buy 19.12.57 # is the battery life suck on color one? 19.13.34 # I don't have a colour one. I've got a H120 (B&W) 19.13.43 # i have a gmini 400, which is color (but of course not supported by rockbox) - i get very good battery times, but only when i don't use the video viewing feature 19.13.58 # i think that the backlight of the color LCDs uses a lot of power 19.14.45 # ya 19.15.01 # yea not sure which one to get 19.15.15 # black and white one would be good tho you get the remote 19.15.22 # i want ipod, both irivers 19.15.28 # archos video jukebox 19.15.28 # lol 19.15.30 # all of them 19.15.42 # ipod sucks, serisouly 19.15.47 # i want a creative zen micro too 19.15.47 # and i don't like apple 19.15.51 # ya ipod does 19.16.41 # The only good thing about the ipod is that it has major market share and therefore good 3rd party vendor support 19.16.57 # what do you mean by "support" ? 19.17.08 # guys last word 19.17.12 # you cannot even change the battery 19.17.13 # black and white or color iriver? 19.17.15 # what one would you get 19.17.22 # and if you want to do so, you pay $100, and they give you another iPod 19.17.24 # possibly an older version 19.17.34 # Well, not so much "support" in the traditional sense but support in that there are lots of accessories and what not... 19.17.35 # they are really taking their users for nuts, yet they ask a lot of money for their thing 19.17.47 # ya prolly older then 19.17.49 # thanks bye x 19.17.53 # bye 19.17.59 # well, you "can't" change the battery in iriver either 19.18.15 # neither you can in the gmini 400 :) 19.18.21 # but ipods are very expensive for what they do 19.18.36 # what are the advantages to old version 19.18.59 Quit courtc (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19.19.41 # Anyway, I also have to go. I'll be lurking! :) 19.19.53 Part webguest32 19.20.49 Quit SmoothGuy69 () 19.29.18 Join courtc [0] (~courtc@adsl-158-42-50.asm.bellsouth.net) 19.29.36 Join Stryke` [0] (~Chairman8@cpe-24-168-110-99.si.res.rr.com) 19.41.36 Join leftright [0] (~5087f7f0@labb.contactor.se) 19.42.21 # hmm, i was lurking, is Raplygain working on the H140 ? 19.42.32 # Replaygain 19.48.04 # are there any settings for it if so, like 'Radio' and 'Audiophile' ? 19.48.33 # Lear ^^ 19.49.15 # yes? 19.50.36 # Why not take a look? :) I tested it on an H140, btw. 19.50.51 # Radio and Audiophile ? 19.50.55 # only for Vorbis? 19.51.18 # I will surely take a look :)) 19.52.53 # ah, its for vorbis files only, good going, mp3...... 19.53.03 # Only Vorbis, because that's what I use most... 19.53.25 # I'll wait for the mp3 version then 19.53.31 # its what i use 19.53.36 # But it makes it a lot easier to add other formats as well, such as mpc, once playback works well. 19.53.52 # great, nice going 19.53.55 # mp3 will require APEv2 tag reading, i suppose 19.54.11 # mp3gain can be used already, though you can't switch between track and album gain, but I'm looking at what Foobar writes for ID3V2 tags for it... 19.54.19 # no it can also store the info in V2 19.54.24 # oh 19.55.37 # Btw, anyone know a good ID3V2 tag editor? The one I use now (and that looked promising) can't read Foobar 0.9 beta tags at all... :/ 19.56.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.56.46 # try mp3 tag studio 19.57.16 # http://www.magnusbrading.com/mp3ts/ 19.58.03 Join solex [0] (~jrschulz@d051197.adsl.hansenet.de) 19.58.18 # Hm, yes.. Tried that; pretty good, but a bit more than what I need really. :) 19.58.31 Join cosmocat [0] (~52e2e404@labb.contactor.se) 19.59.31 # yes it is quite comprehensive, but also simple to use for single tasks 20.00.04 # Hm.. Can it show the contents of any (text) tag? 20.00.57 # not sure, been a long time since I used it, I'll check 20.01.24 Join cosmoca1 [0] (~Administr@pereire-8-82-226-228-4.fbx.proxad.net) 20.01.35 Part cosmocat 20.02.08 # thanks, I'm downloading it now though. :) 20.02.47 # is there a rockbox develeopper in the room? 20.02.59 # just ask cosmoca1 20.03.01 # I have a little request.... 20.04.18 # just ask ! :) 20.04.36 # like I explain on the forum, I want to change the value of a constant in the source code of rockbox.... 20.04.39 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=1088.0 20.05.23 # Lear, do you just want to read the text info or replaygain info ? 20.05.56 # I want to take a close look at a tag written by Foobar, without having to do it via a hex dump. :) 20.06.41 # mp3ts did show me what I needed... good... 20.07.57 Quit solex_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.09.20 # good :) 20.14.32 # uski, your still here?? :) 20.27.15 Join [1]Moos [0] (DrMoos@m40.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 20.38.49 # does anybody know the name of a song by Eric Clapton with this line in it: "Would you know my name.... If I saw you in heaven." 20.38.59 # tears in heaven 20.39.02 # tnx 20.39.13 # ah, found it 20.39.19 # * t0mas is really bad at names... 20.39.31 # and it's difficult to skip though 7 cd's to check all songs 20.39.32 # haha 20.39.37 # heh 20.45.21 # * t0mas np: Eric Clapton - 10 - Tears in Heaven (0:20) [http://amarok.kde.org/] 20.45.33 # also found it on my pc :D 20.46.46 Quit uski (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.49.48 Quit Moos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.49.48 Nick [1]Moos is now known as Moos (DrMoos@m40.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 20.50.05 Join uski [0] (uski@62.147.10.101) 20.52.07 Join JoeBorn [0] (~Jborn@cpe-66-87-126-135.il.sprintbbd.net) 21.16.06 # cosmoca1: language buffer size increased. 21.24.56 Join thegeek [0] (na@ti521110a080-2449.bb.online.no) 21.25.33 # thanks a lot 21.33.54 Quit Stryke` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.56.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.10.05 Join Coldtoast [0] (~edan@ppp111-3.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net) 22.16.51 Part cosmoca1 22.29.14 Quit leftright ("CGI:IRC") 22.44.59 Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.6/20050720]") 22.58.03 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@84.189.112.2) 23.22.13 Nick StrathAFK is now known as Strath (mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a204.wi.tds.net) 23.34.10 Quit Strath ("Client closed") 23.34.19 Join preglow [0] (~c39fbf69@labb.contactor.se) 23.34.44 # hi 23.35.18 # Hiya 23.35.55 # hey Cassandra 23.35.58 # hi preglow 23.36.07 # Cassandra: got the battery in there yet? 23.36.47 # ct: Yeah. 23.36.51 # Works great. 23.36.54 # was it easy? 23.37.02 # Unfortunately I killed my internal mic. 23.37.06 # Not very, no. 23.37.13 # wow! how'd that happen? 23.37.16 # But I got there in the end. 23.37.25 # i dont remeber if i'm the one who's responsible for it, but the FRACMUL comments in dsp.c is wrong 23.37.25 # Wires got pulled out. 23.37.31 # and the generic FRACMUL implementation 23.37.45 # I soldered them back in, but heat from the iron may have fried the mic when I did that. 23.37.55 # awww damn 23.38.05 # Never used it much anyway. 23.38.18 # But I had to take out the disc to get at some of the screws. 23.38.32 # the HDD? 23.38.49 # Which given some of the disassembly instructions saying remove the battery before the HDD was a little confusing. 23.39.00 # didn't you completely disassemble it? 23.39.02 # My battery connector was on the bottom of the board. 23.39.20 # Yes, I did, eventually. 23.39.32 # oh. cos when I did it, I completely disassembled it 23.40.05 # Far as I could see you can't change the battery without completely disassembling. 23.40.15 # yeah 23.40.47 # the connector on the mobo is tucked in there behind something else and I found it a little bit fiddly to unplug 23.41.01 Quit TCK- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.41.54 # But works like a charm though. Been really useful this weekend, and I've not even got close to battery drained state. :) 23.42.10 # hehe. awesome 23.42.46 # There's always the external mic anyway. I don't tend to record very much at all. 23.42.59 # definitely worth the ~$20US 23.44.01 # What I'm really looking forward to is plugging the iRiver into this though: http://www.dagogo.com/CES2005/ 23.44.29 # (bloody stereo shops not actually keeping their products in stock) 23.45.21 # Yes, upgrade was definitely worth the money. :) 23.45.54 # heh 23.46.09 # I found somebody to give the useless tools too :) 23.46.19 # the ones that came with teh battery 23.46.32 # Hmmm. This replaygain support thing looks interesting, but too much hassle to get into my MP3 collection, 23.46.34 # he has a 1st gen ipod with battery life of 3-4hrs 23.46.49 # So you gave him your old battery, right? 23.46.55 # HELL no 23.47.04 # if he wanted that, he can pay for it 23.47.22 # Then what use is the tool to him? 23.47.35 # well, he has an ipod. heh 23.47.39 # he may as well have the tools 23.48.08 # maybe he'll get a replacement without them. dunno 23.48.21 # Possible, I suppose. 23.48.29 # dod you buy from Ezipda? 23.48.40 # did 23.48.50 # cassandra: the replaygain tagging process is pretty automatic 23.49.59 # Not as automatics as pointing EAC at LAME.DLL, sadly. 23.50.01 # what's funny is before some dude came in talking about replaygain support on Rio players 23.50.16 # I mentioned I use MP3Gain and he said "MP3Gain's shite" 23.50.32 # it's more or less the same 23.50.50 # interesting that the replaygain site has MP3Gain linked 23.50.50 # mp3gain is somewhat less of a hassle, since it doesn't require player support, and is a wee bit less precise 23.51.06 # hello. 23.51.14 # hi, hcl 23.51.42 # I use mp3gain cos I figre I'm tagging everything new anyway so mp3gaining new stuff is just another step in preparation for my h140 23.51.51 # *nods* 23.52.04 # I currently have a 3 stage process for importing new music. 23.52.13 # Not really sure I want to add a fourth. 23.52.19 # but it's nice to have replaygain support for ppl liek the guy who was here before 23.52.50 # Well, consistant volume levels while on random are definitely a good thing. 23.52.59 # definitely 23.53.45 # he also said the sound quality was better on Rio cos it does gapless. heh 23.53.48 # but anyway 23.54.36 # i started replaygain tagging all my new music 23.54.41 # but i just couldnt be bothered 23.54.46 # so i stopped, heh 23.54.50 # haha 23.55.06 # it took quite a while to mp3gain even 7GB of music 23.55.17 # I'd hate to have clsoe to 40GB to do 23.55.25 # Hmm. Says MP3gains stores the volume info in APE tags. But isn't the Rockbox support in ID3v2? 23.55.37 # whats mp3gain? 23.55.56 # Appears to be a posthoc replaygain tagger. 23.56.01 # So you can do old files. 23.56.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.56.22 # english? :X 23.57.11 # Not my fault you strange foriegn types don't understand my native langauge properly. :P 23.57.27 # You run it on MP3 files and it adds replaygain info to them. 23.57.47 # mp3gain is like replaygain, but mp3 specific, it alters every mp3 frame so even non-aware players will play it back correctly 23.57.52 # what were you using for adding replaygain tags preglow? 23.58.00 # coldtoast: foobar2k 23.58.05 # http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/ 23.58.09 # oh. didn't know it did that. heh 23.58.18 # foobar does everything 23.58.23 # it even buttered my toast the other day 23.58.42 # I'd use it but I like Winamp 23.58.46 # I'm still waiting for the Rockbox plugin that will feed my cats for me. 23.58.58 # it does anything, but configuring everything is a nightmare with foobar