--- Log for 28.07.105 Server: tolkien.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 5 days and 14 hours ago 00.01.14 Quit rooomish ("game is over") 00.02.00 # well all my ID3v2 are UTF-16 and it copes fine 00.02.02 # so 00.02.30 # though most of the stuff on my player is vorbis so i'm less concerned with mp3 00.03.17 # i think vorbis comments are unicode too 00.03.58 Quit Bagder (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.04.44 Quit belgarath ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 00.06.03 # Vorbis is UTF-8 to be picky, but yes... 00.06.46 Join Strath [0] (mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a232.wi.tds.net) 00.06.54 # that's what i thought 00.10.17 # if you set mp3tag to read v1 tags it will display the info 00.10.32 # assuming your files have v1 tags... :) 00.10.48 # yes :) 00.14.34 # hm 00.14.39 # unsigned short = 16 bits right? 00.14.41 # (on x86) 00.15.03 # IIRC yes 00.19.44 Quit memmem ("ERC Version 5.0.3 $Revision: 1.726.2.17 $ (IRC client for Emacs)") 00.22.05 Join jpegreen [0] (~Jeremy@71-36-39-36.tukw.qwest.net) 00.22.40 # can anyone please help me help me with applying the grayscale patch to rockbox (for iRiver). I've read " How To Work With Patches", but it doesn't work so I'm assuming I'm doing something wrong... 00.24.21 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 00.24.56 Part leftright 00.29.04 Quit Strath ("Client closed") 00.30.45 Quit yngwi ("Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.4/20050511]") 00.31.17 Join belgarath [0] (~acd8d9d4@labb.contactor.se) 00.31.28 # oh dear, foobar deleted all my tags 00.36.04 # doubtful 00.36.11 # luckily i kept a backup 00.36.48 # it didn't delete all of them, just the ones that i had scanned before i set it to id3v2 i think 00.36.54 # which was around half... 00.37.45 # what makes you think it deleted the tags before you set it to id3v2? ive never seen foobar delete tags unless you want it to 00.41.25 # Ok, this is probably a stupid question that I could find the answer to somewhere, but I've searched around with no results and I'm getting tired so I'll ask anyways: How do I convert (or it's called complie, isn't it?) the .c files in the plugin-dir of the CVS to .rock files? 00.41.38 # well they weren't deleted before i scanned the files 00.41.50 # what are you using to view the files? 00.42.08 # mp3 tag 00.42.37 # but its a bit late for that as I deleted them (after making sure I had a backup) 00.42.44 # oh ok 00.42.47 # no big loss 00.43.16 # i wonder if it has some sort of priority system like foobar (which will read APEv2 tags above all else) that has people that use mp3gain thinking their tags were deleted 00.43.26 # I've said it before, mp3tag can't show unicode tags, which Foobar writes by default. Try another program and you may be surprised (and relieved). :) 00.43.46 # damnit i just deleted all my files, thanks lear... 00.43.59 # tag.exe is my favorite mass tagging app other than foobar 00.44.07 Join onkeljonas [0] (vircuser@ip230.rev112.brygge.net) 00.44.26 # hi guys 00.44.35 # hey 00.44.37 # all i put in foobar preferences was check "always write ISO... instead of ...." 00.45.05 # i just come back home and i will RG all my mp3 files :) 00.45.07 # and then changed standard inputs to id3v2 00.45.16 # if so, mp3tag should be able to read them... 00.45.26 # it didn't read half 00.45.33 # what program needed? foobar? 00.45.41 # yes 00.45.58 # it's work on iriver yet? 00.46.00 # leading me to believe that when I previously did the regain with ape as the input, I think it may have replaced the tags 00.46.24 # no biggie i'll just try again in the morning 00.46.44 # maybe you had always remove id3v2 tags selected? 00.46.57 # no i don't think so 00.47.02 # okk 00.47.07 # although that is a possibility 00.47.30 # but I thought that cdex (the program i used to use before eac) did id3v1 and v2? 00.48.13 # yeah, i'd love to look at one of the deleted tag mp3s too late, though 00.48.59 # hi... quick Q - is there any way to pause scrolling in the wps after each completed scroll? (so it'll scroll "very long name of very funky album" all the way through and then pause for some time) 00.49.14 # onkeljonas: not yet, id love the same feature 00.50.10 # kk thx 00.50.37 # yea - it looks weird having a line scrolling all the time 00.50.54 # indeed 00.51.18 # especially when you have a song title 'They Provide The Paint For The Picture-Perfect Masterpiece That You Will Paint On The Insides Of Your Eyelids' 00.51.28 # who's that by? 00.51.35 # Bandits Of The Acoustic Revolution 00.51.43 Join ansivirus [0] (~ansivirus@ppp-69-148-71-156.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 00.52.05 # on iriver firmware that would be way past the 52 character limit 00.52.11 Part jpegreen 00.52.24 # whats the width of the iriver screen in pixels? 00.52.32 Join jpegreen [0] (~Jeremy@71-36-39-36.tukw.qwest.net) 00.52.50 Part jpegreen 00.53.44 # 160? 00.54.25 # we do not talk of the iriver firmware ;-) 00.54.58 # well the screensize ought to be firmware independent no? 00.55.24 # obviously yes 00.56.26 # i just want the scroll to go one screenwidth at a time - so "Presents the ultimate m" changes directly to "usic machine" 00.56.37 Join leftright [0] (~5087ea2f@labb.contactor.se) 00.56.51 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverHardwareComponents although I cannot find the resolution of the screen, it is interesting nonetheless 00.57.03 # onkeljaas, to make the scroll pause %ac%s%t4Al: %Id;%ac%s%t4Ar-%Ia 00.57.18 # AHHH... thx a bunch :) 00.58.40 # onkeljonas: Doesn't scroll step size allow for that? 00.59.10 # hmm, %t is pause time 01.00.01 Part leftright 01.00.09 # @ Stryke` - thats what I'm playing with, but I can't get the right setting - too high and line becomes a mess after first scroll 01.00.30 # how high does it allow you to go? 01.01.04 # i think you should adjust the scroll speed along with 01.01.30 # 160 is max, but somewhere above 100 and it gets fuxored... even at speed 1 01.02.26 # Scroll Speed: Controls how many times per second the scrolling text moves a step. 01.02.39 # step as in pixel? 01.02.40 # yeah, i read it wrong 01.02.50 # as in whatever you chose as the size 01.02.55 # so yours is moving 160 a second 01.03.16 # seems you would need a number far below 1 01.03.16 Join Chamois [0] (~Florian@i01v-62-35-66-23.d4.club-internet.fr) 01.03.20 Join Strath [0] (mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a232.wi.tds.net) 01.03.23 Quit Chamois (Client Quit) 01.10.00 # hmmm... looks like scroll stepping >127 is buged 01.10.05 # +g 01.10.19 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverHardwareComponents although I cannot find the resolution of the screen, it is interesting nonetheless <-- 160x128 01.15.16 Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.6/20050720]") 01.18.10 Quit cYmen ("zZz") 01.18.32 # Can somebody please help a newbie that's very tired by lots of searching? :) How do I convert (or it's called compile, isn't it?) the .c files in the plugin-dir of the CVS to .rock files? 01.19.32 # is there a reason you don't just download the bleeding edge build? 01.20.30 # I've done that, but I can't some plugins there, like rockboy 01.20.58 # Luthion: rockboy is not a plugin 01.21.02 # its a file-handler 01.21.19 # hmm ok, my bad :p 01.21.33 # you load a .gb or .gbc on your iriver and "start" it like a mp3 01.22.13 # but it was some .c-files in the plugin-dir that isn't included 01.22.23 # or I'm just very tired and have overseen them... 01.23.04 Quit Stryke` ("Friends don't let friends listen to Anti-Flag") 01.23.39 # "calendar" for instance, but is that because it doesn't work with the iRiver version? 01.24.44 # yup 01.24.49 # the iriver has no rtc 01.24.56 # ok 01.26.19 # ahhh nice... finaly found a scroll setting that suits me :) 01.28.11 Quit belgarath ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 01.30.11 # are there any legit gb roms out there? 01.31.13 # just a quick q: When using patch.exe to apply a patch, will it output a message if the patch was applied successfully? 01.31.47 Quit koniu_ ("leaving") 01.43.54 Join asdsd____ [0] (~asdsd@h-67-100-29-95.miatflad.dynamic.covad.net) 01.44.06 Part asdsd____ 01.49.53 Join jpegreen [0] (~Jeremy@234-64-212-66.spl.org) 01.55.35 Quit Moos (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC for those that like to be different") 01.57.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.07.14 Join tvelocity [0] (~tony@ppp14-adsl-250.ath.forthnet.gr) 02.07.25 Quit Luthion (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.15.23 Quit onkeljonas ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 02.15.49 Quit ]RowaN[ () 02.19.03 # anyone here have the JBRFM? 02.19.43 # I'm wondering if I can just buy the 6V 1000mA cig lighter adapter from Radioshack for 17.00 rather than spending 31.00 on the archos one 02.20.27 # the A/C adapter that came with it is 5V 700mA 02.20.46 # the Cig Lighter adapter sold from Archos is 6V 1.6A 02.20.48 # any ideas? 02.25.40 # Should be OK, yes. 02.25.51 # But I offer no guarantees. 02.25.54 # :) 02.26.01 # sounds good enough to me 02.26.02 # thanks 02.26.19 # that's what i thought also just wanted another opinion prior to trying it :P 02.26.28 # I charge my FM from a 6V block. 02.26.33 # cool 02.26.56 # But I blew up my first iRiver trying the same thing. 02.26.56 # i actually measured the output of the 5V block that came with mine and it outputs 9.5V 02.27.19 # *nods* Unregulated PSUs. They vary depending on load. 02.27.30 # The voltage measurement is for a nominal load. 02.27.44 # I just don't think that it will blow up the FM Recorder because the one they sell is 6V 1.5A and the one i'm gonna use is 6V 1000mA 02.27.54 # ahh 02.29.07 # ok well I thank you.. I'm off to RadioShack to purchase.. leave on a road trip in a little bit.. 23 hours driving don't wanna leave my mp3s behind :P 02.29.11 # thanks again for the info 02.30.07 # np 02.46.58 Join thegeek_ [0] (na@ti521110a080-2449.bb.online.no) 02.48.07 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.02.28 Join atmcsld [0] (~atmcsld@64-136-202-82-dhcp-kc.everestkc.net) 03.04.51 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.15.49 Quit BBub () 03.19.26 Quit hicks (Remote closed the connection) 03.20.17 Join webguest35 [0] (~18df8a8c@labb.contactor.se) 03.20.54 Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.20.54 Quit webguest35 (Client Quit) 03.40.28 Quit jpegreen (Client Quit) 03.48.53 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (~dreamtact@adsl-19-235-161.bna.bellsouth.net) 03.57.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.05.53 Join QT_ [0] (as@area51.users.madwifi) 04.06.47 Quit tvelocity ("Leaving") 04.15.23 Quit Strath ("Client closed") 04.15.57 Quit QT (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.26.02 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.45.12 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (~dreamtact@adsl-19-235-161.bna.bellsouth.net) 04.55.19 Join TCK [0] (TCK@81-86-98-228.dsl.pipex.com) 05.18.37 Join edx [0] (edx@p54A8E260.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.32.58 Join slagathor22 [0] (~cfedfe06@labb.contactor.se) 05.33.24 Join koniu_ [0] (~koniu@host-ip194-145.crowley.pl) 05.37.04 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.40.54 Part slagathor22 05.47.02 Join asdsd____ [0] (~asdsd@h-67-100-29-95.miatflad.dynamic.covad.net) 05.47.48 Part asdsd____ 05.57.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.56.03 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (~dreamtact@adsl-19-235-161.bna.bellsouth.net) 07.13.49 Quit MikeNoe33 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.14.05 Quit MooMaunder (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.31.26 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.57.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.35.10 Nick QT_ is now known as QT (as@area51.users.madwifi) 08.43.35 Join Cka3ka [0] (~Cka3ka@ool-4355b700.dyn.optonline.net) 08.45.33 # ...so quiet 08.56.30 Join belgarath [0] (~acca2f2a@labb.contactor.se) 08.56.49 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (~dreamtact@adsl-19-235-161.bna.bellsouth.net) 09.08.49 Join amiconn_ [0] (~jens@p54BD45B1.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.09.05 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 09.09.05 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (~jens@p54BD45B1.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.17.21 Quit Cka3ka (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 09.24.56 Join Coldtoast [0] (~edan@ppp111-3.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net) 09.28.03 Join DarkkOne [0] (~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 09.28.48 Quit DarkkOne (Client Quit) 09.36.27 Join rooom_wrk [0] (~Roman@adsl-bn150-156-158-212.bluetone.cz) 09.37.14 # Hi 09.37.52 Nick rooom_wrk is now known as deadArchos (~Roman@adsl-bn150-156-158-212.bluetone.cz) 09.43.05 Quit Coldtoast (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.45.06 Join ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-121-160.VIC.netspace.net.au) 09.49.52 Join Rockdude05 [0] (~chatzilla@winax28-b032.dialup.optusnet.com.au) 09.51.55 Quit Rockdude05 (Client Quit) 09.58.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.04.08 Quit belgarath ("CGI:IRC") 10.12.02 Join Chamois [0] (~Florian@i01v-62-35-66-23.d4.club-internet.fr) 10.13.31 Join leftright [0] (~5087f118@labb.contactor.se) 10.15.09 # lear: does Rockbox support unicode ?, with reference to the replaygain unicode overwriting of v2 10.18.11 # will Rockbox then read get tag info from ID3v1 if v2 is overwritten in unicode ? 10.18.32 Join MooMaunder [0] (~me@hide.jdwilliams.net) 10.28.41 Join jpegreen [0] (~Jeremy@71-36-39-36.tukw.qwest.net) 10.29.00 Part jpegreen 10.38.20 Join webguest08 [0] (~c2cbc979@labb.contactor.se) 10.39.07 Quit webguest08 (Client Quit) 10.49.51 Join mdeboer [0] (~maarten@mtg62.upf.es) 11.02.08 Join [-AIR-] [0] (~air@82-35-84-182.cable.ubr03.dals.blueyonder.co.uk) 11.03.09 # <[-AIR-]> hey people. the mandlebrot plugin. does it actually generate a fractal or is it just an image? because zooming in a long way seems to just stretch the fractal rather than "zooming in". any ideas? 11.04.22 # it generates a fractal, as far as i know 11.06.53 # It's a true fractal, but you may experience one of 2 problems 11.07.15 # (1) Zooming changes the aspect, but I don't yet know why 11.07.31 Join a1r [0] (~air@82-35-84-182.cable.ubr03.dals.blueyonder.co.uk) 11.07.35 # oes rockbox read unicode ID3v1 and v2 tags ? 11.07.37 # hey people. the mandlebrot plugin. does it actually generate a fractal or is it just an image? because zooming in a long way seems to just stretch the fractal rather than "zooming in". any ideas? 11.07.38 # (2) If you zoom in very far, there are precision problems, as it uses 32 bit fixed point math 11.07.51 # oes=does 11.07.54 # sorry missed the first one amiconn. say again? 11.08.18 # a1r: http://www.rockbox.org/irc/current.txt is your friend... 11.08.23 Join Lear [0] (~chatzilla@h143n1c1o285.bredband.skanova.com) 11.08.27 # ah yes :) 11.09.26 # thanks jimbo 11.09.27 # Lear: can rockbox read unicode ID3v1 and v2 tags ? 11.09.44 # v2 yes, v1 can't be unicode... 11.10.02 # that is, latin-1 chars encoded as unicode at least... 11.10.02 # what is unicode? 11.10.11 # so if v2 is overwritten by unicode, rockbox gets tag info from v1 ? 11.10.23 # a way to support lots of languages, including chinese and similar 11.10.38 # ok. 11.10.46 # cheers 11.11.12 # no, you set a preference, read v2 or v1, and rockbox will then always use the v2, if the file has one. 11.11.26 # yes my last question was crap 11.11.42 # and my answer wasn't much better. :) 11.12.26 # I'm setting up a replaygain how to at mistic, and wasnt sure about v2 and unicode 11.13.05 # its only tagging programs which need to catch up then 11.13.57 # thanks 11.21.49 Quit [-AIR-] (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.33.59 Nick a1r is now known as [-AIR-] (~air@82-35-84-182.cable.ubr03.dals.blueyonder.co.uk) 11.58.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.58.29 Join Moos [0] (DrMoos@m7.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 11.58.42 # Hello all ! 12.02.17 # <[-AIR-]> heyhey 12.05.00 Join hicks [0] (~hicks@zeus.mups.co.uk) 12.05.05 # <[-AIR-]> hicks 12.05.34 # hicks or hi? :) 12.05.53 # Everyone in gentoo keeps typing "hicks,..." instead of hi :P 12.06.03 # <[-AIR-]> haha 12.08.19 # I dont understand why i get a 'dir full' warning after a major upgrade, my settings are reloaded and the dir buffer is set correctly 12.08.39 # it goes away with some fidling of the dir buffer values 12.09.05 # and a restart 12.16.26 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.22.48 # leftright: Yes, that's because of 2 effects: (1) The settings are reset due to the config version change, that means of course also the dir buffer limit. (2) Changes to the buffer limits need a reboot to take effect 12.23.23 # <[-AIR-]> err in the new grayscale on iriver. using the updown l/r joystick to move the image around, is it sposed to like but sections off the image that go off the screen? 12.26.55 Join webguest09 [0] (~c2cbc979@labb.contactor.se) 12.27.05 # [-AIR-]: ??? 12.27.19 # <[-AIR-]> yup 12.27.31 # What do you mean?? 12.27.32 # <[-AIR-]> cut* 12.27.35 # <[-AIR-]> not but 12.27.36 # <[-AIR-]> soryr 12.27.54 # <[-AIR-]> any part of the image that goes off the screen is lost until i restart the plugin 12.28.30 # amiconn : here ? 12.28.41 # Ah, you mean the demo. Yes, that's how it works 12.28.56 # It's mainly aimed at devs, to show how to use the grayscale lib 12.29.12 # <[-AIR-]> devs? 12.29.16 # amiconn : pm 12.29.20 # <[-AIR-]> developers 12.30.13 # <[-AIR-]> also. rockblox. any idea who's gonna reqrite it for irivER? 12.30.22 # <[-AIR-]> and when? 12.34.13 # There's a patch in the tracker. 12.34.22 # The thing is they changed the orientation. 12.34.34 # Which is a feature rather than a bug. 12.34.46 # <[-AIR-]> rite. how do i apply patches? 12.35.05 # See "Working with patches" on the Wiki. 12.35.11 # There is still a number of plugins that need to be better adapted to iriver, even if they're already working 12.36.51 # <[-AIR-]> yeryer. i need this then? 12.36.52 # <[-AIR-]> http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/patch.htm 12.37.59 # <[-AIR-]> Cassandra 12.38.59 # Erm, do you have a development environment set up? (IE cygwin or Bluechip's devkit.) 12.39.07 # <[-AIR-]> no 12.39.16 # <[-AIR-]> i have cygwin 12.39.19 # Ah, then you won't get far. 12.39.20 # <[-AIR-]> yer i do 12.39.23 # <[-AIR-]> i do 12.39.31 # <[-AIR-]> Cassandra 12.40.13 # Patch should already be in it then. 12.40.47 # Download the source from cvs or the daily build page, download the patch itself, apply the patch, compile your own Rockbox binary. 12.40.48 # <[-AIR-]> sorry im not quite following. i have never applied a patch or edited any rockbox stuff. so i am mildly cretinous 12.43.48 # <[-AIR-]> cd to/source/root ??? 12.44.03 # <[-AIR-]> oic 12.44.09 # <[-AIR-]> change dir to source root 12.44.10 # <[-AIR-]> gotti 12.44.11 # <[-AIR-]> t 12.44.57 # I have no idea of specifics. I develop under Linux. 12.45.37 # <[-AIR-]> kk 12.46.15 Quit koniu_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.47.20 # <[-AIR-]> hum 12.47.40 # <[-AIR-]> can anyone here help me apply a patch in windowS/ 12.47.41 # <[-AIR-]> ? 12.51.16 # <[-AIR-]> why aren't the patches put in the daily builds? 12.51.44 # because a developer with commit access hasn't applied them, or they don't work on all platforms? 12.51.54 # <[-AIR-]> kk 12.53.02 # if you're using cygwin, patching is typically similar. go to the top level of your copy of the rockbox source (typically just the 'rockbox' directory) and use patch -p 1 < /path/to/uncompressed/patch/file 12.53.29 # if the patch has a .gz extension, typically you'll need to use gunzip on it. (bunzip2 for .bz2 extensions), but it probably isn't compressed. 12.53.40 Join Aison [0] (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 12.54.07 # now, if that immediately asks you a question about not being able to find the file, ctrl-c it, and try patch -p 0 < /path/to/patch/file instead 12.54.26 # keep in mind that if the patch fails for some reason, you're possibly out of luck until someone can help you apply it. 12.54.35 # and make any changes necessary 12.56.39 Join austriancoder [0] (~5078751e@labb.contactor.se) 12.56.43 # morning 12.57.24 # <[-AIR-]> cheers ashridah 12.57.29 # <[-AIR-]> ill try it :) 12.59.36 Quit webguest09 ("CGI:IRC") 13.01.14 # <[-AIR-]> how do i compile the source? 13.01.39 # there's instructions that cover that in the wiki on www.rockbox.org i believe 13.02.41 # <[-AIR-]> argh i don gettit :'( 13.03.16 # <[-AIR-]> gottit :) 13.03.20 # <[-AIR-]> http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowToCompile 13.04.17 # <[-AIR-]> ah well 13.04.20 # * [-AIR-] sighs 13.04.31 # * [-AIR-] only want to play vertical rockblox 13.04.40 # <[-AIR-]> don worry ppl 13.04.44 # * [-AIR-] cries in the corner 13.06.45 Join cYmen [0] (~cymen@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 13.28.16 Quit ashridah ("sleep.") 13.34.41 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (~dreamtact@adsl-19-235-161.bna.bellsouth.net) 13.58.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.05.48 Quit austriancoder ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 14.10.23 Quit Chamois (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC with a difference") 14.13.17 Join RotAtoR [0] (~e@dhcp54-47.calvin.edu) 14.24.17 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.24.30 Quit deadArchos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.31.40 Join ripnetuk [0] (~george@82-70-100-230.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) 14.32.54 # hi all... quick question (to save reading all irc logs for last 2 weeks) - are we any closer to remote display support on iRiver yet? thats the only thing stopping me from using Rockbox full time... is anyone known to be working on this? 14.33.13 # * ripnetuk really looking forward to custom wps on remote 14.33.31 # Because no-ones been interested enough to write it yet. 14.33.40 # Things get done as people work on them. 14.33.48 # People work on what they're interested in. 14.39.59 # yeah, i know how open source dev works <--- (not trying to be rude!) 14.40.17 # but usually with these things, architecture work needs doing first 14.40.26 # (eg, codec api needed doing before mp3 support) 14.41.02 # im guessing that one of the 'masters' like LinusN would need to approve a change that allowed duel screen structures etc 14.41.50 # *nods* Yes. 14.41.55 # I think someone was working on it. 14.42.01 # Maybe they went on holiday. 14.50.10 Quit Moos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.52.32 Join Moos [0] (DrMoos@m7.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 14.53.28 # oh well... i might have a look at the code myself, but I think this is going to need discussion to get a concensus of how it should be done before we jump in... 14.53.30 # cya later 14.53.31 Quit ripnetuk ("Leaving") 15.05.49 Quit mdeboer (Remote closed the connection) 15.09.05 Quit Tipi^_ ("Lost terminal") 15.28.29 Join f55 [0] (~ulla@193.203.81.132) 15.29.45 # just a thought... in theory.. the h1xx has usb in one end and optical i/o in the other.. does that mean it could be possible - with the right software/firmware to use it as a usb-digital i/o soundcard? :) 15.31.38 Join Chamois [0] (~Chamois@champigny-5-82-226-182-23.fbx.proxad.net) 15.35.22 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (~dreamtact@adsl-19-235-161.bna.bellsouth.net) 15.36.56 # i think not 15.37.53 # afair the h-1xx only works as a mass storage device 15.38.33 # ogg playing seems to be broken 15.38.49 # few minutes after start of playning iriver hangs 15.43.02 # hmm 15.43.05 # no i'm wrong 15.43.10 # it was my build 15.49.34 # <[-AIR-]> :) 15.50.37 # Phew, got me worried there for a moment... :) 15.53.24 # hmm 15.53.28 # i have a quiestion 15.53.52 # does the cpu frequency changing take power 15.54.35 # ? 15.58.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.01.36 # I doubt the changing as such consumes any noticable amount of power, but I don't know much about that, to be honest. :) 16.05.41 # The change itself doesn't consume additional power, but it costs a bit of performance. The PLL needs to relock on the new frequency, which can take up to 10 msec. In th emeantime, the CPU core is running at 11 MHz 16.08.57 Join Zagor [0] (foobar@h63n1fls31o265.telia.com) 16.09.37 # And that, in turns, ought to mean the CPU needs to run at a higher speed for slightly longer... 16.10.14 # Yes exactly 16.10.36 Quit leftright ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 16.14.02 # off-topic: anyone have a gmail invite to bounce my way? 16.14.07 # yes 16.14.19 # name + mail address? 16.15.55 # send :) 16.43.37 Quit f55 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.57.29 # does anybody here know some form designer for linux? 16.57.58 # (a bit like ms access... just click together a form...) 16.58.03 # but then using mysql 17.01.35 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.05.57 Join preglow [0] (~c39fbd32@labb.contactor.se) 17.06.21 # i thought we were supposed to avoid using iram for code 17.07.43 # haven't heard that... any particular reason? 17.07.52 # well, yeah, there's a code cache 17.07.54 Quit odd (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.07.54 NSplit tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 17.07.54 Quit crwl (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.08.13 # it's better to reorganize code to utilise that better instead, if possible 17.08.19 # well, I did time with and without the code in iram. it was faster with in in iram. 17.08.23 # yes, sure 17.08.40 # in these cases, the functions are called very often... 17.08.42 # but there's usually more to be gained by putting data in iram and using cache better for code 17.09.04 # hmm, i should put in the cachetest code i use in my imdct patch 17.09.16 # well, do you have any suitable data to put there? i don't know what it should be... 17.09.34 # imdct for mad? 17.09.36 NHeal tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 17.09.36 NJoin odd [0] (mrodd@fangorn.starshadow.com) 17.09.39 # yes 17.10.08 # putting all the cache critical functions right next to each other is pretty important to avoid destroying the cache all the time 17.10.14 # wondering, because I'm trying to rewrite some vorbis code into asm, but progress is slow... 17.10.44 # so we should have a CACHE_SEG #define or something for important functions 17.10.52 # it's trivial to implement 17.11.00 # that would explain why things seemed to go faster when I removed some stuff from iram that wasn't needed anyway... 17.11.04 # but i still have no dev env :/ 17.12.11 # yeah, the cache is pretty shitty, if the lower twelve bits (or so) of a function address collide, the functions will never be cached properly if both are called often 17.12.41 # i actually had that happen when trying out the new asm imdct for mad 17.12.51 # what tremor stuff are you rewriting, btw? 17.13.40 # mdct_butterfly_generic. some profiling (on x86 I guess) showed it to be where the most time was spent. 17.14.20 # a viable route for the mdct stuff in tremor, would be replacing it with a fast fft and some support routines 17.16.26 Quit preglow ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 17.17.36 Join prethom [0] (~c39fbd32@labb.contactor.se) 17.19.05 NJoin crwl [0] (~crawlie@dsl-83.148.225-157-dynip.ssp.fi) 17.19.26 # lovely web client 17.20.19 # well, that is probably a bit over my head, so... :) 17.20.38 # we'll see when i get decent net connection and a dev env again 17.21.24 # amiconn: lovely work on the grayscale and graphics 17.22.35 # Thx :) 17.23.10 # what number of colours does h1x0 have now? 17.23.14 # in dithered mode, that is 17.23.26 # 33, as on the archos 17.23.31 # ahh 17.23.33 # with less overhead? 17.24.00 # and btw, what is the retrace like glitch that can be seen every now and then? 17.24.12 # Since the LCD data hookup is parallel, it uses less CPU, somewhat less than 10% 17.24.41 # However, the grayscale lib keeps the CPU at 120 MHz, to avoid timer period changes (that would cause glitches like mad) 17.24.54 # i dont think that's too bad 17.25.36 # The retrace glitch is due to the grayscale refresh rate not being synchronsied with the internal LCD refresh 17.25.53 # and this is as synched as it gets? 17.26.11 # Unfortunately it's not possible to synchronise, as the LCD has no way to read back its internal read pointer 17.26.39 # ...and the frequency isn't even constant, as the LCD uses an RC oscillator which drifts with temperature 17.26.50 # ahh, indeed 17.26.51 # preglow, do you know of any documentation over what can cause a pipeline stall in a coldfire? the docs I have mention two stores in a row, but that's pretty much it... 17.26.52 # We have the same problem on archos, even more visible 17.26.56 # then you can pretty much just forget it 17.27.03 # it's not that visible anyway 17.27.18 # lear: i have no idea, i'd love such documentation 17.27.32 # lear: only stalls i know of are store stalls and accumulator fetch stalls 17.28.07 # amiconn: it's surprisingly nice to view pictures with this thing, i would never have guessed it 17.28.09 # yes, that's all the user's manual mentions... 17.29.23 # lear: there's surprisingly little info on the pipeline at all 17.35.09 # Today I tested my idea to switch the LCD to b&w mode while showing grayscale. Turned out that it's worse than now 17.36.09 # oh? 17.36.14 # in what way? 17.36.15 # The internal refresh rate doubles in b&w mode, so this should allow for less flicker. However, the LCD uses some kind of internal interlace in that mode, leading to strange interference artifacts 17.36.39 # queer 17.36.53 # Would have been nice - would need half the RAM, and allow double the refresh rate :( 17.37.26 # There is a way to bring down the flicker a bit - we could increase the internal LCD clock 17.37.33 # btw, am i the only one getting really strange fwpatcher gui bugs? 17.37.46 # Currently we set it to 76 kHz, leading to a refresh rate of ~70 Hz 17.38.15 # We can set it up to 120 kHz, but I don't know how that influences power consumption 17.38.35 # i fire it up, click the text box, and get a could not open patched firmware for checksum check error :/ 17.38.38 # That would give a refresh rate of ~110 Hz, and hence less flicker 17.38.51 # i think it looks very nice as it is, so unless it gives a way better picture... 17.40.44 Join bagawk [0] (~lee@bagawk.user) 17.42.32 # prethom: Yes indeed. The slowness of the LCD panel helps a lot here... 17.43.40 # <[-AIR-]> hey. probly has a stupidly long answer which you need not give to a newB like me. but how does rockbox make the battery life longer? 17.44.27 # by using less cpu power 17.44.36 # if the cpu is at a lower speed... it uses less power.. 17.44.44 # so it can run longer 17.45.18 # <[-AIR-]> wiked. what consequences does that have ? 17.45.20 # has anyone actually done tests to confirm it uses less power? 17.45.24 # <[-AIR-]> slower basically? 17.45.56 # <[-AIR-]> i could do that :) 17.45.58 # <[-AIR-]> but... 17.46.04 # no, not slower 17.46.11 # we just use less cpu to decode the same music... 17.46.14 # better codecs 17.46.23 # t0mas: are you certain this is the case? 17.46.26 # no 17.46.26 # <[-AIR-]> i'd have to make sure the rockbox firmware and the iriver firmware are doing exactly the same thing to test battery 17.46.34 # <[-AIR-]> rite kewl 17.46.37 # then put it on repeat on 1 album 17.46.37 # i'd be surprised if the codecs are better 17.46.39 # <[-AIR-]> better efficiency 17.46.46 # especially mp3 17.46.48 # yes 17.46.50 # <[-AIR-]> kk 17.46.57 # and... in real use... 17.47.02 # iriver has the hd spinning bug 17.47.06 # and rockbox doesn't have that 17.47.12 # <[-AIR-]> any idea what level 100% on the rockbox firmware is on the iriver firmware? 17.47.17 # <[-AIR-]> yeryer 17.47.21 # the same, should be 17.47.26 # <[-AIR-]> snot 17.47.30 # <[-AIR-]> much quiter on rockbox 17.47.39 # you use eq, then? 17.47.44 # <[-AIR-]> nope 17.47.45 # <[-AIR-]> normal 17.47.54 # in rockbox 17.47.58 # set bass boost to 0 17.47.59 # <[-AIR-]> "40" is max on iriver is much louder than 100% on iriver...both maximums 17.48.02 # <[-AIR-]> yer 17.48.03 # and treble boost to 0 also 17.48.06 # Hey, just read that Motorola/Freescale has developed a real-time MP3 encoder for the ColdFire... 17.48.10 # <[-AIR-]> on both iriver and rockbox normal eq is used 17.48.10 # i find this a bit hard to believe, sounds the same here 17.48.17 # <[-AIR-]> o 17.48.18 # lear: well, yes, good luck getting your hands on it 17.48.20 # <[-AIR-]> i didnt think so 17.48.29 # Apparantly there's a high-quality encoder available as well, though I guess it isn't realtime... 17.48.44 # * prethom hugs wavpack 17.49.07 # <[-AIR-]> hum. 17.49.13 # <[-AIR-]> ill do a few tests 17.49.39 # damn, i'm itching to code again 17.54.19 # <[-AIR-]> loq 17.57.47 Part prethom 17.58.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.08.18 Join Coldtoast [0] (~edan@ppp111-3.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net) 18.08.24 # howdy 18.08.37 # I had this really odd lockup today in rockbox 18.09.21 # I'd hit pause on the remote and it didn't. I look at the player and all looked fine then i realised the play position wasn't cahnging 18.09.42 # how the joystick button to go to file tree and nothing. After maybe 20secs, it went to the file tree 18.09.43 # <[-AIR-]> yer crashed 18.09.54 # <[-AIR-]> yer happened to me. just being really slow. 18.09.56 # clicked it again to leave, many seconds later, it did 18.10.00 # yep 18.10.08 # but it kept playing 18.10.18 # <[-AIR-]> y7er same here. until the end of the track when it stopped 18.10.20 # <[-AIR-]> then i reset 18.10.35 # I let it play and it started teh next track fine 18.10.45 # * [-AIR-] is building a kitchen 18.10.45 # tho it didn't crossfade 18.16.43 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (~dreamtact@adsl-19-235-161.bna.bellsouth.net) 18.19.33 Join Cka3ka [0] (~Cka3ka@ool-4355b700.dyn.optonline.net) 18.19.33 Join austriancoder [0] (~5078751e@labb.contactor.se) 18.19.42 # hey hey 18.19.43 # hi 18.19.56 # watcha all up to 18.20.11 # <<-- just woke up, still pondering on what to eat =-) 18.21.01 Quit Cka3ka (Client Quit) 18.23.04 Quit bagawk ("Leaving") 18.23.34 # has anybody time to help me with some coding stuff? 18.29.40 Nick austriancoder is now known as ac_away (~5078751e@labb.contactor.se) 18.32.24 Join phaedrus961 [0] (~Unknown@p54AE20B3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.40.26 # * amiconn found the problem with the mandelbrot aspect... 18.42.22 # ..or not :-/ 18.50.28 # hi :) 18.50.36 # just few minutes time to irc 18.52.14 # hey Slasheri 18.52.18 # good luck! heh 18.52.51 # you about to head off for the service? 18.53.10 # thanks, still over two weeks left :) 18.53.19 # but that's not so much time :) 18.54.00 # heh 18.54.10 # is sami sihvonen there? ;D 18.54.14 # hi crwl :) 18.54.36 # fortunately not, i already heard sihvonen was here before my era :) 18.54.48 # but i understood that he probably had to stay 18.54.54 # well, maybe not then :) 18.54.59 # oh.. then i am not sure abou that.. 18.55.06 # there is however one "atk-sivari" :D 18.55.16 # he might be that, i don't know ;) 18.55.36 # hopefully not :) 18.55.40 # :D 18.56.09 # but in fact it's quite nice in being here ;) 18.56.43 # it is, in summer 18.56.58 # :) 18.57.59 # tomorrow i will go back to helsinki-jyv�skyl� for about two days 19.00.52 # two days of rockbox coding? ;) 19.03.13 # Coldtoast: your lockdown sounds similar to the slowdown aftern changing volume by holding the joystick for a longer time 19.03.46 # crwl: i might be able to fix one bug or two if i have really much time.. but i wouldn't count on that ;) 19.03.50 # hehe 19.08.07 # god how i hate my gay flatmate. 19.08.10 # and not cause he's gay. 19.08.12 # but he's *such* a jerk 19.08.20 # sup.. 19.12.33 # <[-AIR-]> is he a chav? 19.12.39 # <[-AIR-]> HCl ? 19.13.02 Join Bippems [0] (~51982fc2@labb.contactor.se) 19.13.28 # I have a question, im trying to play a 384kbit and its playing slow ? 19.13.42 # <[-AIR-]> format? 19.13.48 # MP3 19.14.21 # unlikely 19.14.33 # ? 19.14.49 # it states clearly 384kbit 19.15.01 # 128kbit plays fine tho 19.15.16 # maybe it's mp2 or something 19.15.49 # dunno, doubt it 19.16.15 # Normal iriver firmware will play it.. 19.16.40 # <[-AIR-]> i don't think mp3 can go over 320 19.16.47 # <[-AIR-]> at least i've never seen it 19.17.46 # Id send it to you, if i knew how 19.18.53 # <[-AIR-]> collinsgeorge@gmail.com 19.19.15 # you got MSN messenger? 19.19.18 # easier 19.19.47 # <[-AIR-]> yer add me im on 19.19.49 # wha? 19.19.56 # chav? 19.20.25 # <[-AIR-]> is ur flat mate like a barry...chav..like into hip-hop and wears burberry 19.20.29 # no 19.20.32 # he likes trance 19.21.25 # lol @ burberry 19.22.05 # <[-AIR-]> haha 19.22.07 # <[-AIR-]> ok. 19.22.10 # <[-AIR-]> trance well could be worse. 19.22.19 # <[-AIR-]> wot stuff u into hcl ? 19.23.46 # music? 19.23.58 # pretty much everything but rap, r&b, hiphop, popular crap and trance 19.24.20 # The Byrds - Mr tambourine man at the moment 19.24.23 Join godzirra_ [0] (~shawn@c-24-131-13-213.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 19.24.57 Nick ac_away is now known as austriancoder (~5078751e@labb.contactor.se) 19.25.52 Join memmem [0] (~user@p54A2124D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.27.33 # <[-AIR-]> same as :) 19.27.37 # <[-AIR-]> i really like common ATM 19.28.05 # http://theinquirer.net/?article=24968 19.28.32 Quit godzirra (Success) 19.28.43 # ""�the PS3 can't be offered at a price that's targeted towards households."" <= nice statement there 19.34.16 # Finally! Been struggling with bugs in some assembly code, but finally got it right. :) 19.38.01 # asm is fun, eh? 19.38.03 Quit silencer (Nick collision from services.) 19.38.04 Join silencer [0] (~silencer@zen.via.ecp.fr) 19.38.05 Quit silencer (Nick collision from services.) 19.38.48 # not in this particular case at least... 19.39.06 # Coldtoast: heh. 19.39.14 # they're gonna have a tiny market then. 19.43.05 Join silencer_ [0] (~silencer@zen.via.ecp.fr) 19.44.37 Quit Bippems ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 19.49.48 # how should i call the *.c/*.h file for the TI TLV320AIC23B Audio Codec - tlv320aic23b.c or should i use tlv320.c ? 19.56.02 # i'd say the shorter is fine 19.57.47 # sounds like you're going fast ac :p 19.57.54 # i also vote for the second 19.58.03 # Zagor: oki... your money never arrieved by me 19.58.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.58.25 # HC1: audio codec driver is easy, as it is connected via i2c... 20.00.21 Join solex_ [0] (~jrschulz@d098158.adsl.hansenet.de) 20.02.05 # :p 20.02.08 # hcL 20.02.29 # sorry ;) 20.02.56 Join psychocydd [0] (psychocydd@host217-44-38-58.range217-44.btcentralplus.com) 20.03.33 Part psychocydd 20.05.14 # Now I found the real cause for the aspect problem in mandelbrot.rock ... 20.05.29 # In fact this bug is ooold 20.06.13 Join OPP [0] (~OPP@adsl-69-208-174-55.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) 20.06.16 # hello 20.06.48 # do you guys need an h320? 20.07.46 Join Tipi^ [0] (~tipi@dsl-83.148.225-153-dynip.ssp.fi) 20.08.24 # an iriver h320 20.11.42 Quit solex (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.17.29 Join Stryke` [0] (~Chairman8@cpe-24-168-110-99.si.res.rr.com) 20.18.58 # nope, we're pretty much set 20.19.05 # linus has an 320 or 340 20.19.18 # amiconn: what was it? 20.19.31 # See my commit... 20.19.39 # The aspect handling was broken 20.28.13 Join ghode|afk [0] (~dude@host-212-158-232-147.bulldogdsl.com) 20.30.18 #