--- Log for 31.07.105 Server: tolkien.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 8 days and 14 hours ago 00.00.17 # :-) 00.00.50 # question - are any of rockbox's settings stored in the eeprom yet? (if not is that because there's no eeprom driver for iriver yet?) 00.01.26 # I don't think we have any driver for the eeprom 00.01.34 Quit Aison ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.72 :: www.XLhost.de )") 00.01.40 # Bagder - ok thx 00.02.43 # Bagder - while I'm still online - do you think adding dirty rectangle support (or even just dirty row support) to lcd_update would be worthwhile at all? 00.03.14 # you mean for lcd_update_rect() ? 00.03.37 # or what do you mean with dirty? 00.03.44 # no, I mean for lcd_update. or, equivalently, I guess we could rewrite a bunch of plugins to call lcd_update_rect because they currently don't? 00.04.28 # dirty == modified. only output lcd data for changes rather than the entire display each time. should reduce lcd_update time drastically, I would think 00.04.49 # ok, only updating deltas 00.04.50 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 00.05.05 # well, it would be interesting to test if nothing else 00.05.21 # well, not deltas obviously. we'd have to send the entire bytes, not differences. but only for the rectangles that have changed... 00.05.34 # true, modified bytes 00.05.45 # we do something similar in the x11 sim display code 00.06.08 # hi LinusN 00.06.09 # really? weird, why is that 00.06.21 # hi 00.06.25 # stripwax_: just to speed up the displaying for x11 00.06.44 # the x11 host would be faster than the iriver I'd have thought ;-) 00.07.06 # well, first x11 is a slow technology then we output rectangles for each pixel 00.07.25 # and some of us run the x11 over a network 00.07.36 # yes, I use that very often too 00.07.41 # stripwax_: I don't think the delta-checking will be worth the effort, at least not on iriver. We would need a second buffer to compare to, and the transfer isn't that slow 00.07.57 # amiconn - no: just whether the row has been modified (like I said ...) 00.08.15 # i don't think it's worth the effort 00.08.28 # obviously don't store two buffers. just store an additional bit per row (modified, or not). or a pair of bytes (start col, end col) for each row 00.08.39 # However, you're right that we could use lcd_update_rect() instead of lcd_update() especially in places where updates occur often 00.08.57 # that might probably be a more worthwhile effort 00.08.57 # LinusN - why not? 00.09.15 # because the lcd update is pretty fast as it is 00.09.22 # amiconn - multiple calls to lcd_update_rect would be less efficient than one call to lcd_update that takes care of its own housekeeping, surely? 00.10.01 # Agreed if the part to update isn't constant 00.10.03 # LinusN - true, I guess it is now that the cycle time is reduced. no point making it faster still? 00.10.09 # well, lcd_update_rect() would have the same logic of course 00.10.22 # if that would be made 00.10.46 # However, I think an lcd_update() to does sophisticated checks what to update and what not might end up slower than the current method 00.10.52 # stripwax_: when would the "dirty" information be updated? 00.11.09 # LinusN - when one of the other lcd_xxx fns is called, I would have thought 00.11.13 # Plus, all drawing functions would have to properly mark the dirty rows, hence they would get slower too 00.11.26 # yes, I doubt we can gain very much on it 00.11.28 # amiconn - how slow is setting one flag? 00.11.32 # stripwax_: that would make each lcd_xxx call slower 00.11.47 # It's not one flag, but at least one flag per row with your suggestion 00.12.13 # ...and *all* drawing functions would need to calculate which of these flags to set 00.12.18 # I guess apps should just be rewritten to use lcd_update_rect then 00.12.37 # ...and I mean *all* functions, not only those within the core 00.12.53 # amiconn - I thought only core fns had access to the lcd framebufefr? 00.12.56 # buffer 00.13.05 # Rockbox doesn't forbid that e.g. a plugin writes directly to the frame buffer 00.13.21 # * stripwax_ wasn't aware that that was possible ... ack.. 00.13.29 # Rockboy does that, as its main method... 00.13.47 # right, so the x11 delta way would be the only really possible way 00.14.02 # but not as fast 00.14.12 # delta? 00.14.23 # There are several others; in fact my api suggestion includes that functions not needed in the core but nice-to-have for plugins should be part of the plugin library 00.14.26 # the x11 sim keeps a copy of the framebuffer 00.14.35 # to compare changes against 00.15.15 # Bagder - ok (but again that's not really delta) 00.15.34 # The first function of this kind (xlcd_filltriangle()) however does not access the framebuffer, it does in turn use lcd_vline() for drawing 00.15.48 # delta as in meaning difference 00.16.40 # Scrolling would be another such function, and in fact the oscilloscope plugin uses a custom scroll routine, running in an isr 00.16.44 Quit Strath (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.17.40 # amiconn makes sense. i sense another patch to sokoban coming along ... ;-) 00.18.07 # Hmm, was it you who did the load-multiple-levels patch? 00.18.16 # yes 00.18.26 # we should commit that afaics 00.18.30 # we should 00.18.44 # I have a suggestion for this. Iirc this loads a fixed amount of levels if there is enough ram for this fixed amount? 00.19.08 # That's what the patch does, yes. 00.19.08 Quit mr_qno ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.19.15 # I would rather want it to grab the remaining plugin ram, then cache as many levels as fit. 00.19.24 # I haven't made any attempt to size the number of levels 00.19.36 # amiconn - nice idea. I wouldn't have known how to do that 00.20.37 # amiconn - hmm, does oscilloscope work on iriver? 00.20.46 # No, not yet 00.21.27 # I didn't check whether the new level calculation is usable from a plugin 00.21.45 Quit courtc (Connection timed out) 00.21.50 # That would allow to port & enable oscillograph, oscilloscope and vumeter 00.21.57 # yep. 00.22.14 # great stuff. gnight all! 00.22.28 Part stripwax_ 00.22.30 # LinusN: I had an idea how to measure the time the PLL needs to relock 00.25.37 # shoot 00.26.19 Join courtc [0] (~courtc@adsl-33-138-148.asm.bellsouth.net) 00.27.35 # LinusN: check http://www.rockbox.org/irc/rockbox-20050729.txt starting at 09:40 00.29.15 # nice idea, but why would we want to measure it? 00.29.43 Join Strath [0] (mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a225.wi.tds.net) 00.31.59 # We won't need it for normal operation, but I think there are at least two cases where it might be useful 00.32.26 # (1) As an experiment, to see how long a typical relock will take. The datasheet only mentions the worst case 00.32.50 # 3ms according to my logic analyzer measurements 00.34.04 # (2) Perhaps this allows to implement a user timer that keeps precision acroos frequency changes -> would remove the need to keep the cpu boosted in the grayscale lib 00.35.57 # I don't think this would help for backlight dimming though, because the timer periods required there are really short (down to 50µs) 00.36.17 # too bad the coldfire has so few timers 00.37.26 # In fact I think about using the timer1 only, both as the timer itself in normal operation, and for correction during the frequency change 00.37.36 Join Alex-- [0] (HydraIRC@81-179-83-181.dsl.pipex.com) 00.38.14 # should work 00.38.19 # One would then not register the timer in terms of cpu cycles on a variable-frequency platform, but in terms of a fixed time base (e.g. µs) 00.38.26 # Um, hi, I've been away for a long time (~2-3 months) and lost track of how rockbox is doing on the iRiver. I see it can now run, so that's a big step forward ;) Is it possible to record audio yet? 00.38.52 # yes, as a debug option 00.39.31 # Ah, yeah, i see it, cheers. Does it not work properly then, or just not fully tested? 00.39.42 # LinusN: I can see one potential problem though. What if the requested timer period expires *during* the relock? 00.39.43 # I want to record a 5 hour radio show in 20 mins ;) 00.40.31 # Alex--: it only records wav, with no file splitting 00.41.00 # * amiconn just had an idea 00.41.03 # not a problem, I've got a 40gb hdd ;) 00.41.24 # yes, but the maximum reliable file size is 2gb 00.41.33 # Ah, yeah, true. 00.41.50 # Any idea what happens if I try to record over that? 00.41.57 # boom? 00.42.02 # bugger ;) 00.42.04 # It should be simple, *if* all of base frequency, normal frequency and max frequency have suitable ratios to each other 00.42.24 # LinusN: Do you know whether that is the case? 00.42.39 # If so, we could just change the prescaler, and are set 00.42.57 # No need to fiddle with the counter itself 00.43.00 # i chose the frequencies pretty much at random 00.43.06 # Hmm :/ 00.43.59 # I would like to see both the normal frequency and the max frequency to be an integer multiple of the base frequency, or at least of an integer part of it 00.44.16 # then change them 00.45.13 # Sufficient condition: Both numerator and denominator of the ratio <= 256 00.46.41 # i wonder if anyone else would like an option to make the replaygain mode tied to shuffle (track gain when shuffle is on, album when shuffle is off) 00.48.01 # playlist only sounds like a good idea 00.48.53 # Stryke: I'd considered implementing that too. 00.49.11 # LinusN: It would work with th ecurrent values. base : normal : max ~ 8 : 34 : 85 00.49.19 # Small problem. It breaks down if you shuffle an album. 00.50.11 # do you think anyone would listen to a single album on shuffle and want original volume differences preserved? 00.51.11 # amiconn: nice 00.51.56 # I leave it at album mode even when shuffling. Though I see a point in not doing so... 00.51.58 # LinusN: What do you think: The timer init should set the prescaler to the correct value of these 3. Then set_cpu_frequency would set the prescaler to 8 immediately after setting the pll to bypass, then wait for the relock, then set the prescaler to 34 or 85 respectively 00.52.11 # Lear: as do i, currently 00.52.34 # Is there a way to find the current frequency status, i.e base/normal/max ? 00.52.48 # but a mix in the playlist even unshuffled I use track with 00.54.14 # I think it would be nice to adjust the frequencies a bit for less 'odd' ratios though. I would prefer to have the factor for base == 1, but I don't know whether 11x base would be too high for stable operation 00.54.28 # hmm, select shuffle and it automatically goes to track RG, it does sound good, (no pun intended) 00.54.38 # (11x base == 124.185.600 Hz) 00.55.00 # should be ok, methinks 00.55.18 # * ]RowaN[ wakes up with his face in a packet of haribo.. and mumbles "god bless you rockbox guys" 00.55.18 # normal would the be 4x base, a little lower than now: 45.158.400 Hz 00.55.31 # good 00.57.32 # Then the timer registration will get really simple: Just select it in terms of the base frequency... 00.58.05 # This mechanism could also work for the tick interrupt 00.58.20 # s/tick interrupt/tick timer/ 00.58.30 # yeah 00.58.32 Quit Alex-- (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC with a difference") 00.59.19 Join tvelocity [0] (~tony@ppp9-adsl-131.ath.forthnet.gr) 01.00.11 Join austriancoder [0] (~5078751e@labb.contactor.se) 01.00.18 # hi all 01.00.25 # Lear: Hi, did you think to implement thing like preamp for RG? 01.00.32 # Hello ac 01.00.44 # * LinusN goes to bed 01.00.52 # good night 01.00.52 # It has been mentioned, but it hasn't been a priority for me yet... 01.00.58 # cu some other day 01.01.02 # night LinusN 01.01.03 # Should be fairly easy though. So maybe some day... :) 01.01.12 Part LinusN 01.01.17 # a ok 01.01.26 # what sense does a preamp make when you can just increase the volume (pardon my ignorance) 01.01.59 # i'm an ignorant too :D 01.02.06 # the higher volumes become unreachable? 01.02.31 # i leave the "specialist" for the explication :) 01.09.31 # He, I'm not sure I know either. One reason could be that ReplayGain often lowers the volume... 01.11.58 Quit Musicmad ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 01.13.13 # Stryke: check the graphs sorry is it in french :) : http://forum.hardware.fr/hardwarefr/VideoSon/ReplayGain-Limiter-cauchemar-sonore-pour-test-51453-1.htm 01.16.33 # Oopss: http://forum.hardware.fr/hardwarefr/VideoSon/ReplayGain-Limiter-cauchemar-sonore-pour-test-sujet-51453-1.htm 01.18.12 # http://replaygain.hydrogenaudio.org/player_preamp.html 01.20.33 Quit leftright ("CGI:IRC") 01.32.43 Quit Moos (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The future of IRC") 01.49.41 Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.6/20050720]") 01.59.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.07.44 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.34.47 Quit OnkelJonas (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.36.16 Quit tvelocity (Remote closed the connection) 02.45.01 Join tvelocity [0] (~tony@ppp9-adsl-131.ath.forthnet.gr) 02.46.37 Part 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(~5078751e@labb.contactor.se) 10.25.15 # morning 10.35.07 # <[-AIR-]> hey 10.35.20 # <[-AIR-]> austriancoder where u live? 10.37.30 Join rooomish2 [0] (~Roman@195.47.96.56.adsl.nextra.cz) 10.38.31 # hmm. austrian....coder... i wonder. :) 10.40.41 # <[-AIR-]> lol 10.40.47 # <[-AIR-]> hey ashridah 10.40.49 # <[-AIR-]> errr 10.40.51 # <[-AIR-]> rite 10.40.52 # <[-AIR-]> problem 10.41.03 # <[-AIR-]> i just formatted the drive 10.41.06 # <[-AIR-]> my iriver 10.41.27 # <[-AIR-]> and i just disconnected it from the pc i got some nasty crunch sound as the iriver booted into iriver firmware 10.41.30 # hi 10.41.38 # <[-AIR-]> im trying to update the bootloader 10.42.44 # [-AIR-]: were you using bootloader USB mode? 10.42.51 # <[-AIR-]> yup. 10.43.03 # ok. then you disconnected too early 10.43.16 # <[-AIR-]> ok. 10.43.17 # wait a little bit before disconnecting. you'll head the head move 10.43.22 # <[-AIR-]> here's the story 10.43.30 # wait til you hear that little noise then disconnect 10.43.42 # <[-AIR-]> im now have the version 5 patched firmware on the drive and im in the iriver firmware 10.44.07 # <[-AIR-]> so i update the firmware now. BUT. there are no rockbox files on the drive, is that ok? 10.44.16 # yep 10.44.19 # <[-AIR-]> kk 10.44.24 # rockbox will fail and default to the iriver firmware 10.44.44 # <[-AIR-]> rite gotcha. that's what happened last time. 10.44.49 # <[-AIR-]> im now firmware upgrading 10.44.57 # <[-AIR-]> this mite just work 10.45.05 # * [-AIR-] sighs and sigh of great relief 10.45.09 # don't see why it wouldn't 10.45.18 # * [-AIR-] thanks the rockbox crew for this resource 10.45.28 # <[-AIR-]> OMFG 10.45.30 # <[-AIR-]> this is AWESOME 10.45.32 # <[-AIR-]> it worked 10.45.35 # <[-AIR-]> YEASSSSSSSSSS 10.45.35 # btw, the crunch you heard is what happens if you disconnect and the head does an emergency park 10.45.50 # <[-AIR-]> ok. 10.45.53 # <[-AIR-]> is that bad for the drive? 10.45.59 Quit courtc (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.46.14 # so just give it a bit of time before disconnecting. You'll hear the head move. then disconnect 10.46.27 # probably not the best thing for it 10.46.35 # <[-AIR-]> kk 10.46.45 # <[-AIR-]> ok i've put todays build omn 10.47.07 # <[-AIR-]> wiked 10.47.11 # <[-AIR-]> phew i was getting worried 10.47.21 # what were you worried about? 10.48.02 # <[-AIR-]> well, i couldn't boot into iriver firmware to update to version 5 10.48.07 # <[-AIR-]> but now i have. 10.48.18 # <[-AIR-]> i just formatted 10.48.30 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (~dreamtact@adsl-1-101-249.bna.bellsouth.net) 10.48.35 # ok 10.49.39 # <[-AIR-]> now ill put some music on there again 10.50.06 # ok. heh 10.50.30 # oh man. they JPG display on the h140 is pretty fricken sweet 10.50.51 # only saw the screenshot posted on MR but man, does that look NICE! 10.51.46 # <[-AIR-]> it is. it's sooo farking awesom 10.51.58 # <[-AIR-]> it and mandlebrot as it is. W)W 10.52.41 # Coldtoast: The problem with the HD performing an emergency park when leaving bootloader USB mode is solved in bootloader v5 10.52.52 # <[-AIR-]> awesome 10.52.54 # <[-AIR-]> thanks :) 10.53.41 # amiconn: really? 10.53.45 # cos mine still; does it 10.54.22 # I Ithink :) 10.54.55 # oh. not it doesn't hehe 10.55.05 # I usually don't boot into USB mode 10.56.37 # I think I'm never going to misticriver.net again 10.56.49 Quit rooomish (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.56.58 # can ONE day go past where some moron doesn't bag the ipod? 10.58.53 # <[-AIR-]> yer i know. it's quite farking annoying. but the moderators are putting a stop to it. 10.59.09 # <[-AIR-]> mostly it's just newBs trying to "mix in" bcoz they think we all think the same 10.59.26 # even calling the ipod things like "ipoo" and "icrap" is irritating 10.59.54 # <[-AIR-]> yer. even iriver has an "i" 11.00.27 # <[-AIR-]> lets see how long it takes for someone to come of with another faecal related synonym 11.01.02 # seriously, I've never seen a forum with so many ppl obsessed with another companies product and beign hell bent on bagging said product 11.01.09 # <[-AIR-]> my rockbox tutorial weren't bad tho :) 11.01.38 # Coldtoast: you clearly haven't used linux enough :) 11.01.46 # <[-AIR-]> http://www.misticriver.net/boards/showpost.php?p=283091&postcount=24 11.01.51 # hah 11.01.59 # what do they do? bag eachother's dist? 11.02.04 # or Windows? 11.02.06 # <[-AIR-]> what is so great about linux? 11.02.08 # or both? 11.02.13 # both, generally :) 11.02.24 # depends where you go 11.02.38 # <[-AIR-]> lol 11.02.52 # <[-AIR-]> what are the main good points about linux over windows 11.02.58 # [-AIR-]: I'm not expert on it but even just fromcasual usage, it's HEAPS more fun than Windows. It's far mor esecure, there's no spyware and no viruses 11.03.00 # <[-AIR-]> be it vista or xp or w00teva 11.03.08 # [-AIR-]: depends what you're trying to get done? 11.03.13 # <[-AIR-]> rite. 11.03.23 # <[-AIR-]> is it like rockbox compared to iriver firmare ... 11.03.39 # there's really not much point in asking if linux is 'better' since that'll depend entirely on how experiened you are. 11.03.46 # <[-AIR-]> in terms of customizability and optimisation and look and interface and features and etc. 11.03.55 # and again, what you're trying to get done 11.04.01 # for the average Ma and Pa who just use their computer for the internet, the odd word processing doc adn stuff, Linux is FAR better than Windows 11.04.08 # <[-AIR-]> i can do the odd bit of dos. and cd etc. and ./ and ../. 11.04.16 # but for that type of person, it needs to be set up for them I reckon 11.04.36 # <[-AIR-]> rite 11.04.46 # cos they don't have to be constantly dealign with spyware and viruses 11.04.47 # <[-AIR-]> i mite give it a go. it's free i hear :D 11.04.59 # But for that type ofer person, a Mac would be better anyway 11.05.03 # [-AIR-]: that depends where you get it 11.05.04 # <[-AIR-]> yer lol. 11.05.09 # <[-AIR-]> o. 11.05.11 # there's plenty ofp laces you can buy a linux distro for various prices 11.05.14 # <[-AIR-]> legally free? 11.05.25 # don't lol [-AIR-]. Macs are GREAT machines 11.05.27 # <[-AIR-]> so r u on linux now? 11.05.29 # most distros are legally free, however. 11.05.30 # and OS-X is brilliant 11.05.38 # [-AIR-]: i'm always on linux 11.05.47 # i've been using it professionally and personally for the last 5-6 years 11.05.48 # I'm sometimes on Linux 11.05.54 # <[-AIR-]> macs r. i wasn't lol at it. 11.06.03 # see, I came from an Amiga backgroiund (up til 97) 11.06.05 # <[-AIR-]> they're so nice. and always a step ahead microsoft 11.06.13 # and I find Linux feels a lot like the old Amiga days 11.06.23 # <[-AIR-]> kewlkewl 11.06.52 # <[-AIR-]> have either of u used usenet? 11.07.03 # sure. not for AGES tho 11.07.16 # <[-AIR-]> o. as in binaries or just text viewing? 11.07.18 # I went off usenet because of the abundance of kiddy pr0n 11.07.24 # <[-AIR-]> o rite lol. 11.07.32 # <[-AIR-]> that's true. there's lots of that 11.07.35 # <[-AIR-]> best to avoid it 11.07.46 # yeah. so I don't bother 11.08.01 # <[-AIR-]> rite. im gonna sign up for a month just to be rid of my shitty 128 mps. 11.08.03 # <[-AIR-]> mp3 11.08.09 # <[-AIR-]> just replace with 192 11.08.11 # sign up? 11.08.14 # <[-AIR-]> www.giganews.com 11.08.18 # ok 11.08.19 # <[-AIR-]> yer, u have to pay 11.08.26 # <[-AIR-]> don't u? 11.08.28 # pay for usenet? 11.08.31 # <[-AIR-]> yer. 11.08.34 # screw that 11.08.53 # <[-AIR-]> it's like $25 per month UNLIMITED FULL SPEED 11.09.11 # oh man! there ain't no WAY I'm paying for access to somebody's news server 11.09.29 # <[-AIR-]> why not? it's way better than bittorrent or irc 11.09.43 # <[-AIR-]> for downloads that is 11.09.47 # cos I can just use my ISP's one 11.09.53 # <[-AIR-]> o rite ok. 11.09.53 Join courtc [0] (~courtc@adsl-33-138-148.asm.bellsouth.net) 11.10.02 # <[-AIR-]> internode 11.10.07 # they still run a server 11.10.14 # <[-AIR-]> wow. and what is on there? 11.10.23 # dude. check with your ISP 11.10.31 # I bet they run a newsgroup server 11.10.32 # <[-AIR-]> no thet don't have one 11.10.42 # <[-AIR-]> i just switched to f2s. 2mb uncapped :) 11.10.52 # ok 11.10.53 # <[-AIR-]> only NTL has it here and they suxorx 11.11.24 # <[-AIR-]> hey. u know the news on rockbox.org 11.11.32 # I dunno. if I were to fork over $25 a month, I'd need to know FOR SURE what they offer wasn't available on my ISP's server 11.11.43 # <[-AIR-]> it's updated very rarely, is it only for huge steps in the ports 11.12.10 # <[-AIR-]> im only doing it for one month tho, then ill cut down to £5 p/m for like 20gb 11.12.14 # no idea. I never read it :) 11.12.30 # <[-AIR-]> ok 11.12.31 # <[-AIR-]> lol 11.12.40 # <[-AIR-]> me neither seeing as it's always the same :) 11.13.54 # hey. for mp3 replaygain, the replaygain tags are part of ID3V2? 11.14.23 # I checked out foobar 2000 and is only does it with ID3v1 tags it seems 11.14.56 # but some dude had a tut on MR where his foobar did it with ID3V2 (was in the options for replaygain in their foobar) 11.16.31 # ah 11.17.18 # wow! you need to dl a separate component for ID3v2 support 11.25.12 # * austriancoder has two patches for iAudio (ata and i2c) 11.25.45 # <[-AIR-]> good work austrian coder. u have an iaudio s5? 11.25.51 # <[-AIR-]> good work austrian coder. u have an iaudio X5? 11.26.03 # yep 11.27.08 # its a very good player 11.28.34 # <[-AIR-]> really? my m8 got one, wasn't too impressed. it looks nice, but the joystick thing, seemed feeble to me. it protruded far from the player. 11.28.48 # <[-AIR-]> what firmware do u have for it? 11.29.41 # the newest - why? 11.30.17 # <[-AIR-]> my m8 was wondering what number firmware there is. coz his freezes when returning from recording or sutting 11.30.19 # <[-AIR-]> anyways. im off 11.30.21 # <[-AIR-]> cyalll 11.30.50 # <[-AIR-]> btw. what i come back im gonna get a series of screendumps illustrating the good work on mandlebrot, the zooming in. 11.31.06 # cool 11.31.36 # <[-AIR-]> yup 11.31.37 # <[-AIR-]> :D 11.31.58 # <[-AIR-]> i kinda suggested some of the things to improve and tested for bugs so i think it's only rite :d 11.36.00 Quit [-AIR-] ("—I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— 2.0 Build 3515") 11.59.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.29.57 Join webguest66 [0] (~5087f41a@labb.contactor.se) 12.33.31 Join Moos [0] (DrMoos@m20.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 12.33.45 # Hello 12.35.00 # Slasheri: the wps still freezes randomly, I left my player on over night and this morning when I checked the wps was frozen 12.36.17 # it seems that the only way to reproduce this is to leave the player on play for a looong time 12.44.19 Nick QT_ is now known as QT (as@area51.users.madwifi) 12.48.09 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.52.06 # hey 12.52.24 # what the heck are mpeg stream resync errors? 12.52.34 # getting them on a few tracks in foobar 12.52.48 # it's successfully resyncing the streams tho 12.55.07 # hah, I can also freeze the wps, by skipping forward very quickly through songs in playlist 12.56.34 Join wehn [0] (~chatzilla@116-94-185-210.rev.techex.net.au) 13.03.40 Join Teslacuted [0] (Teslacuted@1Cust184.tnt2.dub2.irl.da.uu.net) 13.05.38 # I'm having a problem playing playlists of over 100 songs, is this known? 13.15.59 Quit wehn (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.20.54 Quit Teslacuted () 13.36.47 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (~dreamtact@adsl-1-101-249.bna.bellsouth.net) 13.39.56 Join Lear [0] (~chatzilla@h4n6c1o285.bredband.skanova.com) 13.44.45 # it seems that iaudio and iriver uses the same usb2ata bridge ;) 13.45.07 # hehe. cool 13.45.32 # wonder what his "playlists >100" issue was 13.45.51 # I had a playlist of 1248 tracks the other day and it was playing fine 13.46.01 # didn't get far into it tho 13.46.34 # try skipping tracks quickly through your playlist 13.46.44 # I will in a bit 13.46.54 # just at the end of replaygaining all my tracks 13.46.58 # has maybe 5mins left 13.46.58 # to see if wps freezes 13.47.52 # you trust windoes 5minutes ? :) 13.48.05 # Windows isn't telling me 5 mins 13.50.25 # I swear the second my local exchange has ADSL2+ DSLAMs I'm switching to ADSL2 13.50.30 # ADSL2+ 13.50.42 # I think I'm close enough to get around 20mbps 13.50.42 # Interesting... Tremor has ARM assembler for so called floor0 calculations. Yet the specifications says libvorbis stopped using floor0 after beta 4 (the encoder decides if it is to be used). :) 13.50.53 # No point in rewriting that for coldfire then... 13.52.29 # formatting my h140 13.59.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.11.14 # webguest66: how many tracks should I skip? 14.12.55 # 15 to 20 14.13.07 # very fast forward skipping 14.13.18 # Lear, i recall somebody saying that floor0 could be useful for some very low-bitrate stuff, but no current encoder uses it anyway 14.13.25 # i might remember wrong too :) 14.14.14 # hmmm 14.14.23 # I just skipped forward 22 tracks 14.14.29 # and it hasn't frozen 14.14.39 # very very quickly 14.14.48 # I did 14.15.04 # so fast it couldn't keep up and I'd just keep skipping til it did 14.15.12 # yep thats the way 14.15.24 # wps is working fine 14.15.44 # my peak meters are animating, time is changing, info lines alternating 14.15.53 # hmm, I'll see if I can narrow it down a bit 14.16.21 # try skpping when the HD red light is on 14.16.29 # ok 14.18.02 # 26 tracks, HDD light on 14.18.04 # no freeze 14.18.15 # and it crossfaded properly, even :) 14.18.37 # ok, the other way I got a frozen wps was over night 14.19.17 # hmmm. ok 14.19.31 # hey. with replaygain in mp3s, does the ID3 HAVE to have any info? 14.19.45 # for replaygain to work? 14.19.46 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14.22.16 # what do you mean? replaygain info is read from id3... 14.22.29 # ok. cos here's what's happened 14.22.41 # and id3v2 must be read too... 14.22.56 # I ran foobar2k's replaygain over all my MP3s 14.23.15 # and now, heh, for some reason I have no ID3 tags AT ALL 14.23.30 # so you can't write replaygain info with empty ID3 tags? 14.23.30 # according to what program? 14.23.45 # to Tag & Rename as well as my iriver 14.24.00 # I MAY have wiped the ID3 yesterday by accident tho and not boticed 14.24.13 # I'd check a file via a hex dump... 14.24.26 # how have you set foobar to write tags for mp3? 14.24.29 # in which case, when I ran replaygain over all files just now, as ther ewas no ID3 info at all, it didn't write replaygain info 14.24.41 # that'd be right, wouldn't it? 14.25.18 # if you havent setup foobar corractly' it'll write RG info to ape tags, you need to specify foobar to write to V1 and V2 14.25.29 # it should write replaygain info even if there are no tags, adding them if needed. 14.25.36 # in prefs, I've told it to write to ID3V2 and V1 14.26.01 # yes, that could explain things; while writing ape, it might have wiped the id3 tags... 14.26.05 # or perhaps not. :) 14.26.24 # ah well 14.26.35 # sigh. I have to retag everything now. heh 14.26.41 # I always do a hex dump in cases like this, to see what really happened... 14.26.45 # foobar will tthen write RG to V2 14.27.36 # hmmm. I see replaygain info in the header 14.27.52 # also if you set foobar to wirte unicode, then you wont see your v2 tags in a nromal tagging app 14.28.03 # ah. that's what I did 14.28.07 # or rather, some tagging apps. 14.28.18 # E.g., mp3 tag studio can handle it just fine. 14.28.45 # actually, I've set foobar to "Always write ISO-8859-1 tags instead of UTF-16" 14.29.04 # then a normal tag app should read your tag info 14.29.41 Quit courtc (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.29.51 # I can see where the id3 WAS int eh header. there's a huge blank area 14.30.07 # ID3 CTXXX  replaygain_track_gain -5.73 dBTXXX  replaygain_track_peak 1.520039 14.30.25 Part webguest66 14.32.02 Join courtc [0] (~courtc@adsl-158-8-15.asm.bellsouth.net) 14.34.46 # it defaults to pad, I think. 14.35.18 # ok. I'm going to dump replaygain info and start again 14.35.32 # just checked another one and I can see V1 and Ape info 14.35.35 # and no V2 14.35.43 # irivier needs V2, doesn't it? 14.36.11 # don't know about iriver... I only use V2 on my files. 14.36.59 # as I have no tags anyway, I may as well test 14.45.33 # hace to go... see you later 14.45.52 Part austriancoder 14.48.37 Join stripwax_ [0] (~stripwax@213-228-241-36.dsl.prodigynet.co.uk) 15.01.43 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 15.06.41 Quit BBub () 15.08.46 Quit Coldtoast (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.17.42 Join webguest77 [0] (~c3890c24@labb.contactor.se) 15.19.58 Quit stripwax_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.24.41 Quit webguest77 ("CGI:IRC") 15.53.12 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (~dreamtact@adsl-1-101-249.bna.bellsouth.net) 15.54.45 Quit Aison (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.59.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.12.12 Join Aison [0] (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 16.22.54 Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.6/20050720]") 16.30.26 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.31.29 Join koniu_ [0] (~koniu@host-ip194-145.crowley.pl) 17.03.30 Join Hansmaulwurf [0] (~maerlyn@p54AAC61C.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.07.17 Quit crwl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.13.13 Quit Tipi^_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.18.15 Join crwl [0] (~crawlie@dsl-83.148.225-157-dynip.ssp.fi) 17.21.31 Join JCodous [0] (~root@host86-131-184-65.range86-131.btcentralplus.com) 17.26.18 Join bagawk [0] (1000@bagawk.user) 17.50.59 Quit JCodous ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.10") 17.54.32 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (~dreamtact@adsl-1-101-249.bna.bellsouth.net) 17.58.13 Join TCK- [0] (TCK@81-86-101-106.dsl.pipex.com) 17.58.29 Quit TCK (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.59.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.21.12 # What does iriverify do? 18.26.20 Join gotohell [0] (~oonoe@82.194.49.226) 18.26.27 # !list 18.26.32 Part gotohell 18.39.48 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.46.16 Nick Febs_away is now known as Febs (~Febs@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 18.47.03 # bagawk: if you're still around, iriverify changes a Rockbox-generated playlist into one which can be read using the native Iriver firmware. 19.01.17 # Even if he's not still around, the plugin still does the same thing. :) 19.02.28 # Got it 19.02.29 # thanks 19.10.15 # Cassandra, did you see my e-mail a couple of weeks back about the manual? 19.11.37 # Febs: Oh yes, sorry for not responding. I'm in a bit of an uncertain state regarding manuals with respect to 2.5. 19.12.08 # I'm planning to migrate the manual to LaTeX for 3.0 when iRiver is released so that we can have per platform manual files. 19.12.30 # (while retaining common source that can be stored in CVS.) 19.12.50 # Let me know what I can do to help. I'm not a coder so this is one area where I can contirbute. 19.13.11 # However, when 2.5 was imminent I was planning to get that out of the door in the "old" format. 19.13.26 # How much do you know about LaTeX? 19.13.28 Join austriancoder [0] (~5078751e@labb.contactor.se) 19.13.35 # hi 19.13.38 # Absolutely nothing, but I'm a quick study. 19.14.53 # *nods* LaTeX has more in common with HTML that with Wordprocessing (it's a markup language), would that be a problem for you? 19.15.17 # Probably not, I have a working knowledge of basic html. 19.15.48 # That's cool. 19.16.35 # is it ok for you that i rename i2c-h100.c/h to i2c-coldfire.c/h and apply this patch http://nopaste.php-q.net/150584 ? 19.17.10 # If you'd like to play around with the current manual, please see http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DocBox 19.17.36 # In particular, if you could document new plugins since 2.4 in the same style as that, that'd be a great help. 19.19.27 # I'll take a look. 19.20.34 # OK. That'd be really great, thanks. Pick a plugin, download the 2.4 manual. Follow the instructions on that page, then send the results to me. 19.27.47 # Uh. What does *panic* ata: -71 mean? 19.29.16 # I had my iriver connected the the pc 19.29.45 # linux didn't detect the device (no trace in syslog) and I disconnected and wanted to shutdown the device. 19.30.05 # it then seemed to hang and i tried to hit reset 19.30.19 # then i got that *panic* 19.31.03 Join Stryke` [0] (~Chairman8@cpe-24-168-110-99.si.res.rr.com) 19.33.48 # cannt help you 19.39.49 Join Yokalosh [0] (~andrew@cpc2-cbly2-4-0-cust241.glfd.cable.ntl.com) 19.40.08 # i know this is a dumb question, but can the jbr10 be powered off usb? 19.42.42 # ? 19.48.31 Nick Febs is now known as Febs_away (~Febs@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 19.54.43 # * austriancoder fixed red build now.. 19.58.28 Part Yokalosh 19.59.13 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (~dreamtact@adsl-1-101-249.bna.bellsouth.net) 19.59.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.02.10 Join solex [0] (~jrschulz@d163205.adsl.hansenet.de) 20.04.07 Join pill [0] (pill@cybercrimi.nl) 20.04.16 # hi 20.04.32 # hey 20.04.46 Quit solex_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.06.24 Join Coldtoast [0] (~edan@ppp111-3.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net) 20.06.29 # Why is there no tag for current repeat setting? 20.06.50 # There is just 'Shuffle' 20.06.58 # I think Play State would also be cool 20.07.16 # Or short: everything that is displayed by the status bar. 20.07.30 # Play/Pause/Stop (which you can turn into "Playing, Paused and Stopped") 20.07.43 # apparently current builds have a volume change causing rockbox haing 20.07.47 # If you could even insert the graphics... 20.07.52 # hanging* 20.09.04 # pill: opsa 20.09.11 # i have changed som i2c stuff 20.10.05 # open i2c-coldfire.c 20.11.09 # and change i2c_init to this one: http://nopaste.php-q.net/150599 20.11.17 # does it then work better? 20.14.20 Join mr_qno [0] (~d4c2ebaa@labb.contactor.se) 20.15.55 # Hello, did anyone report somes bugs with the "move to next folder" option today ? Because i had some with the latest daily build. 20.16.15 Join bluebrother^ [0] (~c28@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 20.17.30 # can somebody test the current build? i have changed i2c stuff and have no iriver to test 20.17.44 # No, but there have been recent changes. 20.17.47 # ac: Hold on. 20.20.37 # What specifically did you want testing? 20.21.32 # change volume 20.21.52 # oh 20.22.01 # this was an issue for the past days 20.22.15 # is it meant to solve this? 20.22.18 # * pill is testing 20.22.49 # pill: no.. i thought my i2c changed broke something 20.22.54 # oh 20.22.55 # nono 20.23.09 # Cassandra: if volume changing works, everything is ok 20.23.12 # apparently it's been buggy since the jpg viewer came into play 20.23.19 # sorry about the confusion 20.23.30 # Nope. It's still going slowly after a while. 20.23.42 # yeah 20.23.47 # that's weird 20.23.53 # looks like rockbox is lagging 20.29.00 Quit TCK- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.31.16 Quit Coldtoast (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.32.58 # when was this bug introduced? 20.34.23 # I had the impression it was first reported around the time we got replaygain support. 20.44.35 Quit bagawk ("Leaving") 20.57.08 Join Lear [0] (~chatzilla@h4n6c1o285.bredband.skanova.com) 21.05.41 Quit Stryke` (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21.11.17 Quit austriancoder ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 21.17.17 Join austriancoder [0] (~5078751e@labb.contactor.se) 21.21.48 Quit austriancoder (Client Quit) 21.25.43 Join Coldtoast [0] (~edan@ppp111-3.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net) 21.28.20 Join TCK [0] (TCK@81-86-208-71.dsl.pipex.com) 21.44.09 Join leftright [0] (~d4406110@labb.contactor.se) 21.52.41 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21.53.21 Quit mr_qno ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 21.59.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.03.46 Join austriancoder [0] (~5078751e@labb.contactor.se) 22.15.00 Join Xetrov [0] (vor@IGLD-84-228-4-186.inter.net.il) 22.27.50 Join Yokalosh [0] (~andrew@cpc2-cbly2-4-0-cust241.glfd.cable.ntl.com) 22.28.53 Join [1]Moos [0] (DrMoos@m20.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 22.28.53 Quit Moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.28.59 Nick [1]Moos is now known as Moos (DrMoos@m20.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 22.29.06 Join TCK- [0] (TCK@81-86-102-172.dsl.pipex.com) 22.29.20 # guys, what is the best iriver, or which do you guys plan on working your rockbox magic on most? 22.29.30 # because i need a new one, my archos just burnt out 22.30.04 # A H1xx is your best bet currently, if you can find one. 22.31.25 # does that include the h10? 22.31.32 # Nope. 22.32.01 # gdgd, i dnt like it anyway 22.32.03 # Yokalosh: if you ask me one H140 ;) 22.32.14 # cool 22.32.19 # i was looking at the h320 22.33.01 # depand of what do you want really 22.33.24 # rockbox :D 22.33.32 # tht h140 is a bitch of a player! 22.33.35 # dude that is sweet 22.33.56 # for me it's the best player for music 22.34.12 # :D 22.34.21 # plus possibility to upgrade to 60 go ;) 22.34.22 # it has the best rockbox compatibility? 22.34.56 # h3xx don't support Rb yet 22.35.29 # well i found a h140 on ebay for 99 quid with 4 days 22.35.43 # which i'm guessing isnt bad but i know it will go up 22.35.54 # :) 22.36.27 # it's you and your luck :) 22.38.13 Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.6/20050720]") 22.43.18 # lol yeh 22.47.40 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.48.02 # anyone has any experience with corrupted hds on archos jukebox player? 22.48.40 # boots up in 'waiting' mode, then reports 'file sys error' 22.48.50 # usb mode works, but cant access the drive itself 22.49.07 # only way i can even see that its there is the device manager 22.54.18 # i guess ill go post it in the forums too. 22.54.31 Join Toni1 [0] (~3e8650f6@labb.contactor.se) 22.54.45 # Hi folks 22.54.59 # I just commited a patch, which shows the fm menu on iriver and simulators 22.55.11 # http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1248983&group_id=44306&atid=439120 22.56.00 # If someone is interested, I added a screenshot to the patch 22.59.48 # bye 22.59.51 Part Toni1 23.03.21 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=1149.0 23.09.09 Join memmem [0] (~user@p54A22E86.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 23.10.46 Join belgarath [0] (~acc95afa@labb.contactor.se) 23.11.08 Join [-AIR-] [0] (~air@i-195-137-117-187.freedom2surf.net) 23.11.14 # i 23.11.43 # i had a strange problem with filenames just now... 23.12.24 # i renamed using rockbox some files in the record folder 23.12.46 # when i opened the folder using winxp it restarted 23.13.03 # renaming the files without spaces solved this 23.13.32 Join tvelocity [0] (~tony@ppp9-adsl-131.ath.forthnet.gr) 23.13.49 # any thoughts? 23.14.09 # winxp restarted while opening a folder? 23.14.25 # sounds like you should fix winxp 23.14.29 # definitely :) 23.14.37 # send them a patch 23.14.39 # :-) 23.15.00 # * amiconn notices Bagder 23.15.05 # i think it was the spaces in the file name but I don't know why that would cause problems 23.15.06 # <[-AIR-]> question. can to many conditionals in the wps make it freeze? the more the slower? 23.15.09 # evening 23.15.21 # Bagder: Any news concerning language support v2? 23.15.38 # amiconn: not really, it'll take me another week or so 23.15.41 # plus the filenames had a 1/4 where the space should have been 23.16.02 # I had some thoughts; e.g. my earlier idea to leave out IDs for empty strings per platform is a bad idea. 23.16.24 # Of course these strings should be nulled, but the ID must still be included 23.16.24 # why so? 23.16.54 # Consider a feature that is added for only one platform first 23.17.17 # The strings concerning that feature would be defined only for that platform, leaving out this ID for the others 23.17.18 # yes, right. good point 23.17.19 Quit Hansmaulwurf ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 23.17.36 # Then some other strings get added, arbitrary 23.18.08 # After that someone implements that feature for another platform, and enables the strings -- all higher IDs would get shifted 23.18.18 # yes 23.22.05 Quit belgarath ("CGI:IRC") 23.22.35 # If we use the same walk-the-array approach as used in the current code, we would 'waste' exactly 1 byte per empty ID 23.22.53 # ...in the binary, plus another 4 byte in RAM 23.28.28 Join einhirn_ [0] (Miranda@carlsberg.heim2.tu-clausthal.de) 23.29.02 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (~dreamtact@adsl-1-101-249.bna.bellsouth.net) 23.29.20 Quit rooomish2 ("game is over") 23.29.59 # <[-AIR-]> question. can to many conditionals in the wps make it freeze? the more the slower? 23.30.55 # I'd expect so, yes. Although I'm not sure about freezing per se. 23.31.04 # ur only supposed to have a certain amount 23.32.13 # hey xetrov i had the same problem as you at one point 23.32.19 # really? 23.32.25 # yes 23.32.26 # how did you resolve it? if at all 23.32.49 # i figure right now ill probably have to open it up, hook the hdd directly to my pc, and format it 23.32.49 # to solve it i had to get a livecd version of linux (i used knoppix) and then plug it into that and reformat it 23.33.05 # really 23.33.08 # yes 23.33.10 # so the device works 23.33.14 # its just that windows is dumb 23.33.17 # yes 23.33.24 # i acutally had an application that could read the hdd 23.33.24 # u get an i/o error after a while right? 23.33.27 # as a volume 23.33.30 # hmm, no 23.33.43 # i sometimes did sometimes didnt 23.33.48 # but i dont think it is corrupt 23.33.56 # well, it wont boot 23.33.57 # try the livecd version of linux :) 23.34.01 # sorts it first time 23.34.10 # knoppix you say 23.34.18 # yes 23.34.29 # what application did you use in it? 23.34.31 # to do the formatting 23.34.46 # i used a command 23.34.51 # dd? 23.34.53 # erm i cant remember right now 23.35.00 # join #knoppix 23.35.02 # :) 23.35.07 # or #linux 23.35.17 # did you have to rebuild the partition too? 23.35.26 # i sure hope knoppix can acutally access the hdd. 23.35.28 # you don't normally need to format 23.35.35 # just fix the partition and mkfs 23.35.56 # thanks guys 23.36.00 # ill get on it later 23.36.08 # np :) 23.36.14 # man 23.36.16 # you wouldnt believe it 23.36.23 # i just had a 4 day vacation with my family 23.36.27 # and my archos busted 23.36.29 # on the first day 23.36.30 # lol 23.36.31 # i thought i was gonna flip 23.36.34 # i smoked mine earlier 23.36.42 # i had to listen to my family argue for the rest of the vacation 23.36.47 # :( 23.37.03 # hopefully i will get my iriver before i go to croatia in 2 weeks 23.37.14 # my friend got an iaudio something 23.37.17 # spiffy as hell 23.37.21 # cool 23.37.22 # plays videos too 23.37.27 # <[-AIR-]> u like it? 23.37.30 # <[-AIR-]> im not a fan 23.37.33 # i'm going for 2 weeks which will suck if i dnt have any music 23.37.41 # and he says he'll be able use it as a psp harddrive too 23.37.50 # something to do with 'usb to go' 23.37.55 # cool 23.37.58 # sounds good 23.38.04 # but highly gimmicky ;) 23.38.23 # tell you the truth, apart from the size, i really like the archos+rockbox combo 23.38.24 # its not what it can already do, its what these guys can make it do thats the best :D 23.38.46 # i loved my archos with rockbox 23.38.49 # until it died 23.39.00 # but now i will be getting iriver with rockbox :D 23.39.22 # how long you had your archos? 23.39.28 # ...hopefully ac get rockbox going on iaudio 23.39.30 # mhmm.. 3 years 23.39.40 # wow 23.39.42 # 3 years 23.39.50 # and this is the first major problem with it? 23.39.53 # yeah 23.40.02 # i should probably replace the batteries sometime soon. 23.40.14 # wow 23.40.14 # i only found out about rockbox a few months ago tho 23.40.23 # imagine the shock 23.40.27 # i got rockbox on mine the day i got it 23.40.28 # :) 23.40.36 # i only got it because of rockbox :D 23.40.46 # its really great 23.40.49 # yeh 23.40.53 # u made it play vids yet? 23.40.55 # I hacked on rockbox long before I got my Archos ;-) 23.40.55 # the whole project 23.41.05 # play vids? 23.41.09 # yeh 23.41.11 # im not sure mine can handle that 23.41.16 # studio20 23.41.16 # it can play videos in a very basic way 23.41.18 # small lcd 23.41.25 # i had the jbr10 23.41.39 # bagder does the studio20 have vids? 23.41.41 # tell you the truth, i didnt really look into anything more other than listening to music 23.41.43 # no 23.41.47 # it has a charcell lcd 23.41.51 # yeah 23.41.53 # that lcd is horrid 23.42.32 # :( 23.42.36 # so iriver is the player of choice today? 23.42.47 # if someone was to get a new player 23.42.55 # its my player of choice for sure :) but only cos the archos is outdated 23.43.23 Quit memmem (Remote closed the connection) 23.43.23 # i would never consider getting an ipod really 23.43.35 # something dosent seem right about ipods 23.43.41 # i never even saw one upclose 23.43.45 # someone should make rockbox run on ipod 23.43.51 # what is better in you guys views, ipod linux or rockbox?:P 23.44.01 # never saw ipod linux 23.44.34 # ipod is cool too i guess 23.44.38 # its all about the hacks 23.44.48 # i havent really looked into it, but i know it makes it view pictures 23.45.51 # ipod has irregular hardware though so i have heard 23.45.59 # id imagine 23.46.00 # being apple and all that 23.46.05 # irregular? 23.46.07 # nothing is off the shelf with those guys 23.46.16 # i think i read its pretty fragile 23.46.31 # they use a chipset with closed docs 23.46.41 # uh huh 23.46.49 Quit einhirn (Connection timed out) 23.47.02 # well i'm off now guys 23.47.07 # later 23.47.10 # nice tlking :) 23.47.10 # thanks for the help 23.47.11 # bye 23.47.20 Part Yokalosh 23.50.21 # <[-AIR-]> hum. my wps. for some unknown reason %in is not showing track number :s 23.50.27 # <[-AIR-]> i have (%in) 23.50.59 # <[-AIR-]> here: shows it clearly: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsGallery#GeorgeCollins 23.51.19 # <[-AIR-]> there it shows %?in<(%in)|>