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00.00.13 #       <webguest99> Hello everyone :)
00.00.23 #       <[-AIR-]> hey
00.00.28 #       <webguest99> a quick question please
00.00.31 #       <[-AIR-]> k
00.01.04 #       <webguest99> does the FM menu patch in the tracker give the FM support for irivers?
00.01.16 #       <[-AIR-]> :s
00.01.39 #       <webguest99> i know needed some i2c works
00.01.55 #       <webguest99> Bagder?
00.02.03 #       <Bagder> why would I know?
00.02.25 #       <webguest99> :) core dev and administrator, no?
00.02.27 #       <webguest99> :)
00.02.30 #       <Bagder> sure
00.02.41 #       <Bagder> but people who contribute patches aren't necesarily that
00.02.47 #       <Bagder> everyone can do it
00.02.52 #       <Bagder> and here "Toni" did
00.03.03 #       <webguest99> ok
00.03.14 #       <webguest99> have you looked a bit in?
00.03.21 #       <Bagder> reading the description, it clearly says this doesn't provide any sound
00.03.30 #       <Bagder> "!! Do not expect to get sound output from this patch !!"
00.03.31 #       <webguest99> a ok
00.03.31 #       <[-AIR-]> bugger. my rockbox still freezes when i press select. ie. to go to folder/dile view. been doin git for agiz
00.03.35 #       <[-AIR-]> any suggs?
00.03.52 #       <webguest99> Bagder: ok thanks for explications
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00.05.09 #       <webguest99> we hope iriver can support soon the FM with Rb with a bit of luck
00.05.20 #       <webguest99> good bye all
00.05.30 #       <Cassandra> air: Works for me.
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00.05.47 #       <Cassandra> explications?  *blink*
00.06.38 #       <Moos> probably french user
00.06.46 #       <Moos> explainations
00.07.05 #       <Cassandra> Oh, I know what he *meant*.
00.07.22 #       <Moos> :) scuse
00.07.27 #       <Cassandra> np
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00.26.36 #       <Moos> Good night (or other) all !
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00.59.30 #       <Xetrov> i got this partition table rebuilding/recovery program for windows
00.59.43 #       <Xetrov> its gonna take a few hours searching for it on the hdd
00.59.48 #       <Xetrov> hope itll work out.
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01.43.06 #       <austriancoder> hi
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01.47.43 #       <DarkkOne> Anybody around or about?
01.47.55 #       <austriancoder> yep
01.48.48 #       <DarkkOne> Do you use Rockbox on an H120/140 by chance?
01.50.12 #       <austriancoder> i have used it on a h120 - why?
01.52.17 #       <DarkkOne> Have you noticed volume issues with it? I was using a cutting-edge build from about 8 or 9 hours ago, and the volume only actually changed when I tapped and incremented it one step at a time. If I held it, so it scrolled, it didn't change.
01.52.34 #       <DarkkOne> So if I had it at 70, and then held down until it was at 0, I'd still hear sound at the 70-level
01.54.14 #       <austriancoder> this bug was reported some hours ago - maybe somebody will find and fix it
01.54.31 #       <DarkkOne> Aaah, okay
01.54.40 #       <austriancoder> as i dont have a running h120 anymore... i cant try to fix it
01.54.57 #       <DarkkOne> Also, I've noticed that if I have files *not* tagged for replaygain (mp3s) enabling replaygain lessens their volume.
01.55.24 #       <DarkkOne> Well, glad it got reported then
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02.03.28 #       <austriancoder> a "int to bcd" routine is needed
02.04.56 #       <DarkkOne> bcd?
02.07.13 #       <austriancoder> int 19 = = 0001 1001 (bcd)
02.07.30 #       <austriancoder> bcd is used for the rtc part of the iaudio port
02.08.22 #       <DarkkOne> Aaah
02.10.22 #       <austriancoder> iaudio port is going quite well...
02.10.49 #       <DarkkOne> That's cool.
02.11.15 #       <DarkkOne> Besides the color LCD, does the iAudio player have anything to sell it as an upgrade to an H-120/140?
02.11.35 #       <pabs> i think it's got usb host too
02.11.39 #       <DarkkOne> Aaaah
02.11.47 #       <pabs> and (if i remember correctly) you can record from the radio
02.11.57 #       <austriancoder> and a RealTimeClock
02.11.58 #       <DarkkOne> That doesn't interest me much.
02.12.01 #       <DarkkOne> Oooh, RTC
02.12.03 #       <DarkkOne> That does.
02.12.04 #       <pabs> sweet
02.12.08 #       <pabs> i didn't know about that
02.12.18 #       <DarkkOne> So it'd be a much better option than a 320/340 for sure.
02.12.29 #       <pabs> i basically want ogg, mp3, wav, etc, digital in/out, lots of storage, and a decent remove
02.12.31 #       * austriancoder writes currently code for the rtc of iaudio ;)
02.12.50 #       <pabs> i've got a h120 now, thinking about an iaudio, but i'm not willing to give up on iriver just yet
02.12.56 #       <austriancoder> h32xx also have an RTC
02.13.01 #       <DarkkOne> They do?
02.13.09 #       <austriancoder> yep
02.13.10 #       <pabs> i'm hoping they'll duplicate the h1x0 series at some point
02.13.15 #       <austriancoder> same ic as iaudio 
02.13.18 #       <DarkkOne> Aaaah
02.13.54 #       <DarkkOne> So, if I were to pick a second Mp3 player, which would you recommend, a 340 or an iAudio whichever model it is of the same capacity?
02.14.40 #       <austriancoder> h3xx has an bigger lcd... but doesn't look that good
02.15.09 #       <DarkkOne> Hrm.
02.15.52 #       <austriancoder> h3xx and iaudio x5 are from the functional point very equal.. only the design is different
02.16.02 #       <DarkkOne> Aaah
02.16.20 #       <DarkkOne> Is either one more likely to run gnuboy faster? or rockboy rather?
02.17.23 #       <austriancoder> both run with rockbox at 120 mHz..
02.17.49 #       <DarkkOne> Aaah
02.17.56 #       <DarkkOne> So, no.
02.17.58 #       <DarkkOne> Hrm
02.18.10 #       <DarkkOne> And all I really want is a two-platter device with USB host features.
02.18.58 #       <austriancoder> h3xx or iaudio x5(l)
02.19.45 #       <DarkkOne> yeah
02.20.49 #       <DarkkOne> So basically it'll all come down to whichever I can find for cheapest. Hehehe
02.21.17 #       <austriancoder> or which one looks better
02.21.22 #       <austriancoder> has better battery
02.21.42 #       <DarkkOne> Maybe
02.21.56 #       <DarkkOne> Actually, more likely, it'll be which one seems easiest to upgrade the battery and HD in.
02.22.59 #       <austriancoder> ok
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08.38.48 #       <Rick> lol
08.40.23 #       <DreamTactix291> sometimes
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11.32.09 #       <austriancoder> morning
11.49.55 #       <austriancoder> the pcf50606 is a very cool ic
11.50.16 #       <ashridah> it does...?
11.51.23 #       <austriancoder> it does many stuff.. eg. rtc, battery monitor, led stuff.. all interrupt based
11.51.36 #       <ashridah> handy
11.51.55 #       <austriancoder> and its quite easy to programm
11.53.03 #       <austriancoder> used in iaudio x5 and iriver h3xx
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13.06.03 #       <austriancoder> not much going on here
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16.57.19 #       <[-AIR-]> could anyone here quickly test my h1xx wps b4 i send it of to the competition final?
17.01.10 #       <Cassandra> Sure. URL?
17.01.59 #       <[-AIR-]> ummm
17.02.05 #       <[-AIR-]> gmail?
17.02.16 #       <[-AIR-]> Cassandra ?
17.02.24 #       <[-AIR-]> %ac%t3%bl% %= %bt Battery Rem;%ac%t3%fc | VOL: %pv% %| %fb kbps
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17.02.45 #       <Cassandra> I can't copy that.
17.03.22 #       <Coldtoast> [-AIR-]: Cassandra is disabled and types by poking keys with a stick she holds in her mouth
17.03.40 #       <[-AIR-]> lol
17.03.44 #       <Coldtoast> heh
17.04.03 #       <Cassandra> Insert a "be arsed to" if you like.
17.04.36 #       <[-AIR-]> i've gmailed it
17.04.44 #       <Cassandra> Rule number one of asking for favours.  Doing make the person doing you a favour work any harder than they have to.
17.04.57 #       <[-AIR-]> hence i gave you two options.
17.05.25 #       <[-AIR-]> asked to gmail, then gave you the option incase you didnt want to give me your /have emael
17.08.01 #       <Cassandra> Looks fine to me.
17.08.35 #       <[-AIR-]> kewl. does it freeze when you try to go from the wps to file/fodler view?
17.09.06 #       <Cassandra> Nope
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17.19.19 #       <[-AIR-]> rite. i don't know wot it is then. my one does. could it be a hardware problem???
17.19.28 #       <[-AIR-]> it's VERY irritating
17.19.50 #       <[-AIR-]> whenver i want to change artist or album i have to go to the menu turn off and then reboot
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17.40.00 #       <Coldtoast> hey Cassandra
17.40.23 #       <Coldtoast> wanna see something pretty funny?
17.40.39 #       <Cassandra> Sure.
17.41.23 #       <Coldtoast> just checking to see if this link is the right one
17.41.49 #       <Coldtoast> cool. it is
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17.41.52 #       * [-AIR-] can't wait
17.41.55 #       <Coldtoast> my Father's girlfriend sent me this
17.42.03 #       <Coldtoast> http://alexus.org/wmv/ElasticBand.wmv
17.42.08 #       <Coldtoast> REALLY funny vid
17.42.10 #       <Coldtoast> 1.4MB
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17.43.07 #       <[-AIR-]> bad link for me. must be firefox
17.43.14 #       <[-AIR-]> just get the code
17.43.16 #       <[-AIR-]> not the vid
17.43.19 #       <[-AIR-]> can you gmail?
17.43.23 #       <[-AIR-]> collinsgeorge@gmail.com
17.43.23 #       <Coldtoast> nope
17.43.26 #       <[-AIR-]> ah
17.43.28 #       <[-AIR-]> o well
17.43.35 #       <[-AIR-]> i'll try to imagine what it will be
17.43.41 #       <Coldtoast> http://alexus.org/wmv/
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17.43.52 #       <Coldtoast> ElasticBand.wmv
17.43.57 #       <Coldtoast> get that one
17.45.45 #       <Cassandra> Dammit.  I think that's killed my Mozilla.
17.46.07 #       <Coldtoast> http://alexus.org/wmv/ <== right click and save as from there
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17.47.56 #       <Cassandra> Ouch.
17.49.42 #       <[-AIR-]> getting it. cheers :)
17.49.44 #       <Coldtoast> heh. prety funny tho
17.49.54 #       <Coldtoast> I like the last woman to the left there
17.51.47 #       <[-AIR-]> thats hilarious
17.51.52 #       <[-AIR-]> yer that's funy
17.51.55 #       <[-AIR-]> immense
17.52.15 #       <Coldtoast> get the other 2 vids too
17.52.25 #       <Coldtoast> the 14MB one is NUTS
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18.01.39 #       <[-AIR-]> maestro is awesome
18.02.43 #       <[-AIR-]> my iriver still freezes when i try to go from the wps to file/folder view.
18.02.50 #       <[-AIR-]> has done for that last week's builds :s
18.02.55 #       <[-AIR-]> any ideas?
18.03.05 #       <[-AIR-]> could it be an error in the wps?
18.03.20 #       <Coldtoast> mine is perfectly fine
18.05.29 #       <[-AIR-]> yer.i just tried the rockbox default and it still freezes. could it be one of my settings?
18.05.33 #       <[-AIR-]> crossfade?
18.10.53 #       <amiconn> What are your limit settings?
18.11.10 #       <[-AIR-]> huh?
18.11.32 #       <[-AIR-]> 6seconds on crossfade if that's what u mean
18.12.03 #       <amiconn> General settings->System->Limits ...
18.12.17 #       <[-AIR-]> dir: 10000
18.12.21 #       <amiconn> The more important one is "Max files in dir browser"
18.12.25 #       <amiconn> Then that's it
18.12.27 #       <[-AIR-]> playlists: 20000
18.12.30 #       <[-AIR-]> is it
18.12.32 #       <[-AIR-]> AWESOME
18.12.34 #       <[-AIR-]> thanx
18.12.36 #       <[-AIR-]> what should it be?
18.12.47 #       <amiconn> It's a know problem that max files in dir browser > ~5000 gives problems
18.13.03 #       <[-AIR-]> so 5000 is ok
18.13.04 #       <[-AIR-]> ?
18.13.09 #       <amiconn> Unfortunately we don't know why that is
18.13.25 #       <[-AIR-]> so 5000 is ok?
18.13.41 #       <amiconn> Generally, I would set that only a little above the maximum number of files you have in one dir
18.13.45 #       <[-AIR-]> ill make it lower
18.13.55 #       <amiconn> Everything else is just wasting RAM
18.14.01 #       <[-AIR-]> kk
18.14.09 #       <amiconn> My setting is 500, even that is plenty...
18.14.20 #       <amiconn> My biggest dir has 200-something files
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18.14.36 #       <[-AIR-]> kk
18.14.43 #       <amiconn> You need to restart get the new setting into effect
18.14.51 #       <[-AIR-]> kk
18.14.58 #       <webguest15> maybe the default max dir should be set lower
18.15.23 #       <amiconn> It *is* *way* lower (400)
18.15.47 #       <webguest15> hmm, howcome air had a problem then, fiddling :)
18.15.59 #       <amiconn> Guess so ;)
18.16.08 #       <[-AIR-]> :)
18.16.12 #       <[-AIR-]> yer i just fiddled
18.16.14 #       * [-AIR-] is a fiddler
18.16.17 #       <amiconn> The rockbox default is 400, for ages....
18.16.32 #       <amiconn> Anyway, the instability is a bug though, and should be fixed
18.16.42 #       <Coldtoast> I had an odd thing happen today
18.16.58 #       <webguest15> really
18.17.01 #       <Coldtoast> went to boo the iriver fw and I held Rec and hit he power button
18.17.22 #       <Coldtoast> and I got the HOLD BUTTON screen, even tho hold was off
18.17.27 #       <[-AIR-]> YES. i have my rockbox back again :) cheers guys (notably: amiconn)
18.17.35 #       <Coldtoast> tried again, same thing. flipped teh switch on then off, same thing
18.17.40 #       <[-AIR-]> same here. that happened to me :s
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18.17.52 #       <Coldtoast> but if i HELD th epower button in, it booted
18.18.14 #       <Coldtoast> tried just now and no need to hold it
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18.25.29 #       <Xetrov> anyone knows about recommended power consumption for a replacement hd (archos studio20) ?
18.26.46 #       <[-AIR-]> nope.
18.27.20 #       <Xetrov> ill look it up
18.27.30 #       <Xetrov> looks like im going to have to replace my hd
18.28.13 #       <[-AIR-]> how come?
18.28.23 #       <Xetrov> mine is rather.. dead
18.28.23 #       <[-AIR-]> need more space or broken~/
18.28.26 #       <[-AIR-]> ok lol
18.28.46 #       <Xetrov> ill try saving it again later
18.29.00 #       <Xetrov> all tools so far couldnt help
18.29.10 #       <Xetrov> restoring partition table, rebuiling mbr
18.29.41 #       <[-AIR-]> nasty. what size is the hdd?
18.29.48 #       <Xetrov> 20gb
18.30.00 #       <Xetrov> its some hitachi drive
18.30.13 #       <Xetrov> im pretty much responsible for it dying
18.30.19 #       <Xetrov> i interuppted a scandisk session
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18.30.39 #       <[-AIR-]> ooo nasty.
18.30.45 #       <[-AIR-]> how old is it?
18.30.55 #       <Xetrov> 2 and a bit years
18.32.22 #       <[-AIR-]> o. lasted well then
18.32.33 #       <Xetrov> i guess
18.32.52 #       <Xetrov> im hoping i could salvage some hdd from someone for free
18.33.22 #       <Xetrov> i dont need much space
18.33.30 #       <Xetrov> barely had 7gb on it
18.35.40 #       <Cassandra> Unlikely.  I had to end up paying a fiver for a dodgy 4gb drive off ebay.  They're like gold dust.
18.36.32 #       <Xetrov> well, my brother deals with alot of laptops in his workplace
18.36.52 #       <Xetrov> what model did you replace an hdd on?
18.37.21 #       <Cassandra> Player.
18.37.27 #       <Cassandra> I've not actually got the HDD yet.
18.39.03 #       <Xetrov> a new one costs about 100$
18.39.14 #       <Xetrov> from what ive seen
18.39.28 #       <Xetrov> 40gb 4200rpm
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19.16.23 #       <solex> about the "max files in dir" setting: doesit also limit the number if directories in /?
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19.40.57 #       <Xetrov> http://www.techdesign.be/projects/020/020.htm
19.40.59 #       <Xetrov> ha.
19.46.29 #       <[-AIR-]> kewl. big tho :)
19.46.32 #       <[-AIR-]> but kewl
19.48.08 #       <webguest15> ughh, teenage speak, kewl...
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19.48.41 #       <solex> Did anybody have success converting ttf fonts to bdf and then to fnt?
19.49.56 #       <solex> I used 'ttf2bdf' from Debian and convbdf from the rockbox sources.
19.55.46 #       <solex> But rockbox always always displays the default font after selecting my font.
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21.47.40 #       <leftright> I still get random crashes IO3:addrrerr 3102204, mp3 files, file tree, 'move to next folder - set, replay gain on.
21.49.13 #       <leftright> I cant reproduce this bug at will, I leave my player on all the time, seems to crash after quite a while in file tree playmode
21.51.58 #       <leftright> oh and crossfade is off
21.53.49 #       <Lear> so you're not in the wps? do you do anything in the file list?
21.56.04 #       <leftright> umm, when I leave it playing its in wps. dont understand 2nd question
21.57.52 #       <leftright> when I leave it playing continuously I dont touch it, just let it continue to next album etc
21.58.37 #       <Lear> well, what you mean by "file tree" then?
21.58.48 #       <leftright> I dont use database mode
21.59.13 #       <leftright> all my albums are loaded as files
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22.00.58 #       <Lear> Ah, I see. Btw, what is Max files in dir browser set to?
22.01.06 #       <leftright> 650
22.01.48 #       <leftright> hmm, its set to 700
22.02.09 #       <Lear> Ok, not the problem with large max files value then...
22.02.26 #       <leftright> nope, I rad that eralier on :)
22.02.32 #       <leftright> rad =read
22.02.46 #       <Lear> And by quite a while, do you mean several hours?
22.02.52 #       <leftright> yes
22.03.15 #       <Lear> Ouch, not fun to debug, in other words... :/
22.03.33 #       <leftright> yep;, I cant narrow it down, i'll try
22.05.06 #       <leftright> thid afternoon it took approx 4 hours to crash
22.05.14 #       <leftright> damn typos
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22.21.06 #       <Moos> Hello all !
22.21.18 #       <leftright> i there
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23.30.58 #       <]RowaN[> guys is anyone else having stability problems on iriver h120 in the last few days?
23.31.10 #       <]RowaN[> volume often sticks, and error screen hang too sometimes
23.31.43 #       <]RowaN[> or maybe its just since ive enabled replaygain
23.35.47 #       <leftright> my volume function is normal, fast up and down
23.35.58 #       <Febs_away> Yes.  I've seen the volume problem reported on the Rockbox forum as well as on the developers mailing list.
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23.36.28 #       <Febs> But it doesn't look like the issue has yet gotten the attention of any developer with the ability to fix it.
23.37.13 #       <]RowaN[> also flac support seems worse, more pauses in the last fews days build.. or again, maybe its just since ive enabled replaygain
23.38.58 #       <Lear> no stability problems here; haven't looked at the volume problem...
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23.39.36 #       <Febs> Actually, I hadn't tested the volume issue today.  I'
23.39.53 #       <Febs> I'm not able to reproduce the problem with a b.e. build from earlier today.
23.40.12 #       <Febs> Perhaps one of the patches over the weekend fixed it.
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23.42.44 #       <]RowaN[> i have the build from about 24 hours ago and im still getting all the problems ive mentioned
23.43.42 #       <]RowaN[> and if anyone wants to test the flac problem, check the irc logs to see where i uploaded an example flac that rockbox doesnt like
23.45.20 #       <Febs> OK, now I've reproduced the volume issue.  Build 080105-0355.
23.46.58 #       <Febs> Sometimes the volume works OK.  I haven't yet figured out what triggers the problem.
23.48.12 #       <]RowaN[> i think rockbox gets confused if crossfade is enabled and you hammer the back button a load of times at the start or end of a track when its already fading
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