--- Log for 07.08.105 Server: tolkien.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 15 days and 14 hours ago 00.01.11 # format muesli: 00.02.40 # format you? 00.02.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.03.31 # does anyone remembers how can I save my alias in linux? 00.04.36 # write them down to ~/.bash_rc 00.05.29 # ok thanks 00.05.55 # is this bash_rc a file? 00.06.14 # its the bash shell startup script 00.06.19 # its a file 00.06.45 # might not be the exact name, try ls -al 00.06.49 # see if something pops up 00.06.55 # at your home dir, ofcourse 00.10.50 # # auto-complete is case INsensitive 00.10.50 # # also requires an edit .inputrc 00.10.50 # shopt -s nocaseglob 00.11.05 # thats what was written in .bashrc 00.11.27 # now can I type alias 'name'=command and save it? 00.13.12 # yup 00.13.24 # i think its alias="command" 00.13.26 # not sure 00.15.07 # I'll give it a try 00.15.36 Quit zezayer ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") 00.21.17 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (~dreamtact@adsl-156-19-56.bna.bellsouth.net) 00.24.44 Quit muesli- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.42.01 # * HCl prods XavierGr 00.43.45 # sorry 00.43.50 # read privmsg 00.50.55 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.52.06 Quit crashd (Remote closed the connection) 00.53.56 Join crashd [0] (nobody@badger.ing.me.uk) 00.56.41 Quit crashd (Client Quit) 00.58.24 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 00.59.25 # HCl: It gave a run time error again? 01.03.27 # Holy CRAP. It works on my player but it crashes on the simulator!!!!! 01.03.51 # How's that happening? 01.04.57 # Now I am in fear to test what I programmed in the simulator. What if it crashes on other correct instances too? 01.13.30 Quit Sucka ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") 01.19.00 # XavierGr: yea, the sim isn't always accurate 01.19.05 # i remember when i first got rockboy to run 01.19.13 # it worked on iriver but not in the simulator 01.19.43 # one of the reasons why i rarely ever use the simulator to test what i code 01.23.20 Join crashd [0] (nobody@badger.ing.me.uk) 01.28.05 # so HCl are you going to optimize the rockboy emulator any time soon (or is it on your plans?) 01.28.38 # Do you think that it can be optimized to be playable (with its sound on) 01.29.27 Quit Vortex ("random chances operate in my favour") 01.29.32 # well 01.29.40 # its been in an increasing priority, at least. 01.29.54 # first thing i need to look at is making the runtime database work without a tag database 01.30.21 # and it *can* be optimized, but the question is more to how much time you want to put in optimizing it, heh. 01.30.41 # i know there are a few critical functions that can be converted to asm without too much trouble 01.30.58 # if that doesn't give enough speed we'll have to rewrite the cpu core to assembly 01.32.36 # hmm I don't know much about programming but whenever I hear "optimizing" I think that this must be the most difficult part. Because you will have to think ways to do the same thing but without cluttering the cpu. Very difficult indeed. 01.33.12 # And sometimes this may lead up to complete reright, I guess... 01.33.34 # yup. 01.34.13 # Some might argue it's the most fun, depending on the person though 01.34.31 # i know at least that people who are expecting it to do full color on h3x0 are badly mistaken 01.34.45 # Hehehe 01.34.46 # it barely has enough cpu to do grayscale, let alone remapping the colors 01.35.11 # but it runs pretty well. 01.35.23 # we should be able to squeeze a little more speed out of it 01.35.28 # someday 01.36.14 # hm I now remember my brother telling about one of his friends. 01.36.14 Quit crashd ("Lost terminal") 01.36.49 # He told him that he HAS PROGRAMMED an alternate firmware for the iHP!!!!! 01.37.01 # gheh. 01.37.09 # let me guess, he used that picture changer thing? 01.37.14 # or was he actually trying to take credit for rockbox? 01.37.22 Join crashd [0] (nobody@badger.ing.me.uk) 01.37.28 # That's what I am thinking 01.37.44 # I will actually call him to see what's happening 01.38.25 # also the same guy said that the sony PSP uses a 40-core CPU? and that he managed (after many months of work) to make 32-core CPU alone!!!!! 01.38.42 # gheh. 01.38.57 # if someone said that to me i'd be instantly ignoring them about computers and try to change subjects 01.39.17 # My brother is trully technical handicap but that is just crazy! 01.39.55 # Who can believe all this crap? And when I told my brother that he is lying he yelled at me 01.40.58 # Though, I am very curious too actually listen this guy about all these. 01.42.22 # And I say to me. Is there any chance a guy like him have an alternate firmware, while a whole team is working on it? 01.42.47 # I am thinking that my brother maybe heard something different from him... 01.42.52 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@JRAF.org) 01.42.55 # Hellooow! 01.44.34 # Hi 01.44.58 # hey 01.45.08 Join ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-122-138.VIC.netspace.net.au) 01.45.16 # does anyone know how (if possible) to remove drm protection from a wma file? 01.45.44 # a friend bought a song on napster (yes) and one on yahoo music... and of cours I can't play it on my pc 01.49.21 # you can make a real time recording while playing it on his PC 01.50.24 # I searched a little bit about it only to found that removing drm is no longer possible. (nothing is inpossible but for the time being noone has written an app for it) 01.50.37 # Well, if it's the actual purchased napster songs, those are supposed to be strippable. 01.50.45 # I thought... 01.51.59 # Advanced Encode Decode Tools 01.52.12 # it basically just plays it and records it at the same time 01.52.28 # it did the latest wma protection last time I used it 01.52.45 # http://www.freakforum.nu/forum/showthread.php?t=25279&highlight=thegeek 01.52.49 # you prob. wont understand that 01.52.52 # it norwegian 01.52.53 # but.. 01.52.53 # ;) 01.53.22 # yeah thegeek but what if you don't have the PC with the license? 01.53.34 # exactly,) 01.53.43 # you need to do it on the pc with the license 01.53.59 # afaik there is no known vulnerabilities in the latest wma protection 01.54.11 # the last one was cracked because of a vulnerability 01.54.13 # people should stop buying srm music 01.54.16 # ^drm 01.54.21 # but this latest one does seem quite secure 01.54.28 # who the hell cares 01.54.40 # I don't buy music with drm out of principle 01.54.47 # not that I buy that much music anyway;p 01.54.55 # there is nothing secure. If it has a lock-up algorithm you can exploit it and find the opposite 01.54.59 # people who buy drm are idiots 01.55.06 # though that maybe very very difficult 01.55.14 # well XavierGr 01.55.16 # that is the point 01.55.19 # without the license 01.55.23 # you can't "crack" it 01.55.31 # it's the basic principle of all encryption 01.55.41 # it is trivial to play it with the license 01.55.51 # without it you'll be facing some problems,) 01.56.19 # you could bruteforce it 01.56.26 # but that would not be practical 01.56.27 # thegeek_: see you in a few thousand years 01.56.31 # hehe;) 01.56.32 # at least :) 01.56.33 # yeah but someone that has bought a piece can see how it works reproduce it and make an app that will do the job. Though this theoritical I think it can be done. 01.56.35 # exactly 01.56.52 # XavierGr: the license is ofcourse different for each album/song 01.57.03 # XavierGr: there is no 'opposite' to encryption. 01.57.04 # and the license is just basically the key 01.57.08 # not decent encryption anyway 01.57.24 # the reverse method is only one of millions of combinations 01.57.26 # and you need the right one 01.57.42 # I remember beeing _very_ impressed with the last wma decryption code 01.57.42 # realistically, it'd be easier to figure out how to extract the key :) 01.57.42 # yeah but the algorithm of the encryption if found can make the mp3 audible 01.57.54 # the encryption technique used is really quite nice 01.57.58 # XavierGr: no it can't. 01.58.27 # not without the key 01.58.32 # just knowing the algorithm gets you virtually no-where 01.58.36 # as long as a player opens the file and plays it I cant see why you cant with another app 01.58.39 # dude 01.58.44 # you need the key 01.58.46 # to unlock it 01.58.54 # XavierGr: other apps can, IF they've got access to the key 01.58.58 # mhm 01.59.01 # and what if you know the algorithm to make the key? 01.59.01 # without the key 01.59.04 # nothing can open it 01.59.09 # XavierGr: that doesn't help you either. 01.59.12 # there is no algo to make the key 01.59.19 # it's "random" 01.59.26 # as random as you can get 01.59.36 # or 01.59.37 # well 01.59.40 # not really 01.59.44 # but it's random enough 01.59.56 # XavierGr: the key generation involves selecting (at least, for earlier encryptions) the factorisation pair from a really REALLY huge number. and you need to know that exact pair, and that's an NP-hard problem to brute force 02.00.23 # make the key long enough, and we're talking something that's going to take you longer than there is life left in the universe 02.00.28 # and why dont they make this kind of encryption to programs? 02.00.36 # XavierGr: they do 02.00.36 # it's not the same 02.00.39 # it's not 02.00.55 # because 02.01.16 # hmm 02.01.17 # dang 02.01.22 # what? 02.01.26 # ssh, openssl, gpg and others all use variants of encryption that are virtually unbreakable, provided the key length is long enough. 02.01.28 # XavierGr: they're planning to do that in windows vista 02.01.31 # armadillo gets close 02.01.34 # www.againsttcpa.com 02.01.36 # read that site 02.01.59 # so in some years you say that there will be no cracked programs? 02.02.07 # thats microsoft's intention, yes. 02.02.10 # read the site, it explains it all. 02.02.21 # windows vista is supposed to have it. i'm not going to get the newer windows versions. 02.02.41 # they can go beep theirselves. 02.02.51 # the day they try to force me to buy their crap is the day i switch to linux 02.02.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.02.57 # ok XavierGr 02.03.02 # there are program that do it already 02.03.05 # using dongle's 02.03.08 # add-on hardware 02.03.16 # I know about dongles 02.03.16 # HCl: poser. i switched years ago, without needing to be forced by ms :) 02.03.16 # f.ex to plug into the parallell port 02.03.21 # and if the cracked does not have the dongle 02.03.24 # it is very hard to crack it 02.03.25 # but. 02.03.29 # but I have heard that there are cracked versions of them too 02.03.34 # exactly 02.03.37 # the cracked has the dongle 02.03.40 # so he decrypts the program 02.03.46 # cracks it 02.03.48 # and there you go 02.03.50 # cracked program 02.04.00 # so if you do the same for the drm? 02.04.03 # dude 02.04.08 # you still dont get it 02.04.10 # or it is song specific? 02.04.13 # ofcourse you can 02.04.13 # yes 02.04.18 # or atleast album specific 02.04.21 # I said that 10 mins ago 02.04.22 # hmmm 02.05.29 # so even theoritically (but without brute force methods) yoou say that drm universal drm cracking is impossible? 02.05.30 # if the encryption algorithm has a flaw 02.05.33 # that can be exploited 02.05.49 # as long as the content is viewable it's crackable 02.05.49 # I mean 02.06.02 # you'd have to drm the viewers brain 02.06.06 # XavierGr: you realise, of course, that the only reason dvd decryption got cracked was that Xing accidentally left an unencrypted form of their decryption key inside their program, and someone extracted it 02.06.11 # no 02.06.13 # it's not 02.06.26 # even without that key 02.06.30 # it would have been cracked 02.06.39 # css was weak 02.07.04 # thegeek_: sure, it was weak, but no-one sat there brute forcing it. 02.07.14 # ;) 02.08.35 # it would surely have been cracked 02.08.51 # by now, probably. 02.09.02 # hey That TCPA thing is the worst thing I have heard. 02.09.09 # well 02.09.11 # it's only 40bit 02.09.19 # so even brute-force would not be that bad 02.09.27 # a modern computer 02.09.31 # can brute force it in 24 hours 02.09.38 # Who the hell is gonna confront about having a security chip in your PC? 02.09.57 # it will never ever ever work 02.12.02 # excuse me the article there says that they are planning on doing opensource programms illegal!!!! How that is explained by them? With what arguments are they going to support this!!! 02.12.38 # This is outrageous. I am freaking out... 02.12.44 # chill out 02.12.46 # once again 02.12.50 # it will never work 02.12.59 # XavierGr: personally, i find those arguments unjustifiable, but conspiracy theorists love it 02.13.02 # perhaps if microsoft did have a _complete_ monopoly 02.13.16 # but with the current situtation 02.13.17 # no way 02.13.41 # any motherboard manufacturer would see that there is a market for non-tcpa motherboards 02.13.46 # Dear user, 02.13.47 # You are about to break the law trying to use a stolen key to Advanced Encode Decode Tools. In case you think that some kind of mistake may occur please contact our technical support center. 02.13.47 # Your IP address is logged 02.13.52 # :) 02.13.55 # hehe 02.14.13 # oh well 02.14.14 # anyway 02.14.26 # this does not really belong on #rockbox now does it? 02.14.32 # nop 02.14.34 # good night;) 02.14.43 # good night thegeek_ 02.14.53 # but rockbox -> mp3 -> music -> drm 02.14.58 # lol 02.15.00 # :) 02.17.10 # hrm. 02.17.23 # that bug i just rescued out of my room drank quite a bit from my sake 02.17.28 # thats gonna be a drunk bug, heh o.o 02.17.33 # ! :) 02.17.52 # * HCl captured it with his empty sake glass and there was still a bit left 02.18.04 # and it like. stayed inside and refused to get out cause it was drinking, heh 02.18.16 # bugs are scary o.o 02.19.08 # what kind of bug? 02.20.33 # program one maybe? 02.20.47 Quit DarkkOne ("Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.6/20050716]") 02.25.31 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (~dreamtact@adsl-156-19-56.bna.bellsouth.net) 02.26.37 # one of those night moth/butterfly things 02.26.43 # they're big.. 02.27.35 # ah 02.28.01 # HCl: with the freaky copper-mirror eyes? 02.28.04 # um. 02.28.09 # i dunno 02.28.15 # i didn't look at it that close up 02.28.21 # i just captured it and put it outside 02.28.23 # you don't need to look at it close 02.28.29 # probably not, then 02.28.29 # its just when the light hits it right 02.28.37 # the eyes light up like copper 02.28.42 # hmk 02.28.53 # gotta get it from the right angle 02.28.59 # but then you can see it from a pretty good distance 02.29.06 # its very distinct 02.29.54 # have to sleep and still have to eat that gyros we were saying before! 02.30.03 # good night all! 02.33.02 Quit XavierGr () 02.44.58 Quit Caliban ("ircII EPIC4-2.0 -- Are we there yet?") 03.34.22 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 03.34.29 Join Seed [0] (ben@l192-117-115-168.broadband.actcom.net.il) 03.55.36 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.03.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.04.59 Quit BoD[] ("TCL 4EVA") 04.06.12 Join QT [0] (as@area51.users.madwifi) 04.08.15 Nick CBM-away is now known as CheeseBurgerMan (~BurgerBoy@63.150.80.89) 04.18.10 Quit QT_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.25.32 Quit bluebrother^ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.45.48 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (~dreamtact@adsl-156-19-56.bna.bellsouth.net) 04.47.08 Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.54.57 Quit Moos (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- 100,000+ downloads can't be wrong") 04.58.44 Join stevenm [0] (~stevenm@pcp04424903pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) 04.58.58 # Hello. Does anyone know what happened to midi2wav.c ? 04.59.21 # there's a bug I want to fix, but cannot find the file! 05.09.39 # was it ever in CVS? 05.10.05 # my guess is that someone ported it to the audio plugin architecture instead of it being a viewer 05.11.06 # ashridah, I found it being moved to the attic... not seeing any port of it 05.11.19 # I guess it was just moved because all the other *2wav files were too 05.11.53 # I will write an actual CODEC of it, but right now there's another problem. Sim doesn't run- Floating Point Exception 05.11.59 # most likely 05.13.26 # ashridah, do you know what's up with the sim? I just built newest version, X11 sim, for Iriver 120/140. Start it, and get Floating Point Exception, no window, nothing 05.19.53 Quit DreamTactix291 ("wh04m66!v3h34d51u780085z0rz1337h4x0rd00d") 05.24.41 # i don't use the simulator 05.24.48 # Anyone else getting this floating point exception on the sim? 05.25.08 # check the build status on www.rockbox.org ? 05.25.22 # ashridah, I kind of have to... still haven't obtained a device. 2 months of work and still haven't seen a paycheck :) 05.26.21 # status seems fine 05.32.01 # just erased everything, checked out, rebuilt, still happening 05.36.08 Quit stevenm ("Leaving") 05.36.11 Nick CheeseBurgerMan is now known as CBM-away (~BurgerBoy@63.150.80.89) 05.36.46 # runs okay here 05.36.49 # gah 05.54.04 Quit gromit` (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.54.04 NSplit tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 05.54.04 Quit ashridah (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.54.04 Quit thegeek_ (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.54.04 Quit CBM-away (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.54.04 Quit Rick (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.54.04 Quit solex (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.54.04 Quit Slasher (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.54.04 Quit Hadaka (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.54.04 Quit Seed (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.54.04 Quit crashd (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.54.04 Quit dwihno (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.54.04 Quit pill (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.54.04 Quit cYmen_ (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.54.04 Quit crash__ (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.54.04 Quit igor47 (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.54.04 Quit lostlogic (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.54.04 Quit LEXLuTHoR (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.54.04 Quit QT (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.54.04 Quit odd (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.54.04 Quit CoCoLUS (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.54.04 Quit HCl (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.54.04 Quit pike (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.54.04 Quit Nibbler (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.54.04 Quit Lynx_awy (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.54.04 Quit godzirra (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.54.04 Quit ze (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.54.04 Quit einhirn (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.54.04 Quit merbanan (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.54.04 Quit Asku (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.54.04 Quit Bagder (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.54.04 Quit pabs (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.54.04 Quit dionoea (tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.03.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.03.43 Quit mbr (Nick collision) 06.03.43 Join mbr [0] (~mb@stz-softwaretechnik.de) 06.03.43 NHeal tolkien.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 06.03.43 NJoin QT [0] (as@area51.users.madwifi) 06.03.43 NJoin Seed [0] (ben@l192-117-115-168.broadband.actcom.net.il) 06.03.43 NJoin ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-122-138.VIC.netspace.net.au) 06.03.43 NJoin crashd [0] (nobody@badger.ing.me.uk) 06.03.43 NJoin thegeek_ [0] (na@s016b.studby.ntnu.no) 06.03.43 NJoin CBM-away [0] (~BurgerBoy@63.150.80.89) 06.03.43 Join Rick [0] (rick@Rick.user) 06.03.43 NJoin solex [0] (~jrschulz@d007143.adsl.hansenet.de) 06.03.43 NJoin gromit` [0] (~gromit`@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 06.03.43 NJoin einhirn [0] (Miranda@carlsberg.heim2.tu-clausthal.de) 06.03.43 NJoin Slasher [0] (miipekk@ihme.org) 06.03.43 NJoin merbanan [0] (banan@130.240.208.71) 06.03.43 NJoin godzirra [0] (~shawn@c-24-131-13-213.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 06.03.43 NJoin lostlogic [0] (~lostlogic@node-4024215a.mdw.onnet.us.uu.net) 06.03.43 NJoin Bagder [0] (~daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 06.03.43 NJoin LEXLuTHoR [0] (babylon@ip-185-152.evc.net) 06.03.43 NJoin cYmen_ [0] (~cymen@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 06.03.43 NJoin Nibbler [0] (~sven@port-212-202-193-100.dynamic.qsc.de) 06.03.43 NJoin HCl [0] (hcl@titania.student.utwente.nl) 06.03.43 NJoin Lynx_awy [0] (~lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 06.03.43 NJoin ze [0] (ze@ca-dstreet-cuda2-c9a-73.snbrca.adelphia.net) 06.03.43 NJoin dionoea [0] (~dionoea@muscipula152.via.ecp.fr) 06.03.43 NJoin Asku [0] (~aksu@adsl-39.180-DynIP.ssp.fi) 06.03.43 NJoin Hadaka [0] (naked@naked.iki.fi) 06.03.43 NJoin pill [0] (pill@cybercrimi.nl) 06.03.43 NJoin CoCoLUS [0] (~coco@h081217139221.dyn.cm.kabsi.at) 06.03.43 NJoin dwihno [0] (~dw@81.8.224.89) 06.03.43 NJoin crash__ [0] (~crash@a15167580.alturo-server.de) 06.03.43 NJoin odd [0] (mrodd@fangorn.starshadow.com) 06.03.43 NJoin igor47 [0] (~igor47@temple.src.uchicago.edu) 06.03.43 NJoin pike [0] (pike@c83-249-120-126.bredband.comhem.se) 06.03.43 NJoin pabs [0] (~pabs@xor.pablotron.org) 06.04.33 Ctcp Version from freenode-connect!freenode@connect.utility.freenode 06.25.39 Join edx [0] (edx@p54A8FE8C.dip.t-dialin.net) 06.34.59 Join webguest67 [0] (~44bcc15c@labb.contactor.se) 06.35.39 # What percentage of competion do you think the h1x0 version is at? 06.35.45 Nick webguest67 is now known as Leperkawn (~44bcc15c@labb.contactor.se) 06.36.17 # heh. 90%. of course, it's the other 90% that takes the most time :) 06.36.32 # 0.o 06.36.39 # What exactly does that mean? 06.36.39 # in reality, i doubt it'll ever be 'done', so to speak. there's still plenty to do 06.36.52 # Leperkawn: law of software engineering. 06.36.58 # Yeah. 06.37.06 # By 'done', I mean stable enough to use. 06.37.31 # when you've got 90% done, you've still got another 90% to go. (otherwise seen as, the final 10% takes 90% of the time) 06.37.51 # So you're speaking proportionately (sp) 06.38.05 # Technically you're saying you 1/2 way done overall. Right? 06.38.47 # well, atm, the player's reasonably stable 06.38.47 # But one could look at is as 90% done with that last 10% being out of proportion. 06.38.52 # but there's still some major features missing 06.39.00 # Yeah 06.39.02 # and playback isn't completely satisfactory. 06.39.19 # I'm just interested on that starting of the h2x0 version :) 06.39.26 # Erm 06.39.30 # h3x0** 06.39.38 # proper remote support, recording, fm support, better seamless playback. 06.40.09 # well, the H3x0 branch is mostly waiting on someone developing a bootloader, and getting an LCD driver running, then it's about the same as the H1x0 branch. 06.40.19 # the problem is, the people with BDM's have been busy 06.40.33 # so working on the bootloader isn't progressing at the moment 06.40.51 # Ah, I see. 06.41.06 # My h3x0 is sad, because it has no playlist mode. It really sucks. 06.41.32 # it will get done eventually, but not without a BDM, since that's the only efficient and safe way to dissect the iriver firmware and insert rockbox bootloading code 06.41.53 # Yeah. 06.42.02 # the LCD's likely to require a lot of manual poking via a BDM too 06.42.30 # Man, It's so annoying. I am not skilled at all in C or C programming, and I want to help. 06.42.38 # C plus plus** 06.43.15 # Yet there is nothing I can do to assist. 06.43.24 # well, getting the bootloader working relies far more on having embedded development experience. that said, a reasonable amount of the work has already been done, so far as the iriver h3x0 range is concerned 06.43.47 # but the iriver firmware itself needs to be analysed so that we can insert a rockbox bootloader into it 06.44.05 # Can you think of anything I can do besides sit on my ass and wait? =P 06.44.23 # buy people with H3x0's and experiences BDM's? :) 06.45.02 # (the other problem is that they actually have far more H1x0's available to tinker with than 3x0's) 06.45.09 Quit Leperkawn ("CGI:IRC") 06.45.14 Join webguest67 [0] (~44bcc15c@labb.contactor.se) 06.45.19 Quit webguest67 (Client Quit) 06.45.25 Join Leperkawn [0] (~44bcc15c@labb.contactor.se) 06.45.28 # Bleh 06.45.40 # I need to get unlazy and install chatzilla for FF. 06.45.48 # What was the last thing you said (since my last message) 06.45.53 # yick 06.46.25 # Yick? 06.46.49 # not a fan of chatzilla. 06.46.53 # Hm 06.46.54 # What do you use? 06.46.55 # been a long time since i've worked with it, admittedly 06.47.08 # But, what did you say prior to me signing off? 06.47.20 # Between my last message and when i logged off, I missed what you said. 06.47.32 # Leperkawn Can you think of anything I can do besides sit on my ass and wait? =P 06.47.32 # ashridah buy people with H3x0's and experiences BDM's? :) 06.47.32 # ashridah (the other problem is that they actually have far more H1x0's available to tinker with than 3x0's) 06.48.02 # I see. 06.48.31 # Someone told me on the forums that they did not need any more h3x0s. 06.48.58 # no, i imagine linus has a few by now 06.49.45 # Then there is truely nothing I can do besides testing the firmware when they release it. =( 06.51.53 # Ah well. Complaining will get me nowhere =P 07.00.05 Quit Leperkawn ("CGI:IRC") 07.45.36 Join Lost-ash [0] (ashridah@220-253-121-226.VIC.netspace.net.au) 07.46.03 Quit ashridah (Nick collision from services.) 07.46.05 Nick Lost-ash is now known as ashridah (ashridah@220-253-121-226.VIC.netspace.net.au) 08.03.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.05.15 Join tvelocity [0] (~tony@chan530-a065.otenet.gr) 09.08.22 Quit tvelocity (Client Quit) 09.09.55 Join Coldtoast [0] (~edan@ppp110-114.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net) 09.22.50 Nick godzirra is now known as godzirra|snoozin (~shawn@c-24-131-13-213.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 10.03.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.05.01 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 10.36.33 Join austriancoder [0] (~5078751e@labb.contactor.se) 10.36.39 # morning 10.41.31 Join bluebrother^ [0] (~c28@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 10.42.51 Nick Lynx_awy is now known as Lynx_ (~lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 11.31.44 Join eleom1 [0] (eleom@222.238.220.214) 11.33.56 Quit eleom1 (Client Quit) 11.46.42 Join eleom1 [0] (eleom@222.238.220.214) 11.54.31 Part eleom1 11.59.12 Join MO-Pantsu [0] (MO-Pantsu@deadman3000.plus.com) 12.00.14 # Hey guys. When I plug my charger into my H140 I get a loud humming sound. 12.03.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.04.21 Join Sucka [0] (~NNSCRIPT@host81-156-208-120.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) 12.13.40 # from the unit? even if it's off? 12.13.43 # how old is it? 12.13.45 Join rooomish [0] (~Roman@195.47.96.56.adsl.nextra.cz) 12.13.51 Quit rooomish (Client Quit) 12.14.44 # If I plug the charger in supplied with the H140 I get hum from the headphone out 12.15.13 # unplug and back to pure silence. will try with it off hold on 12.15.40 # sounds like a ground loop someplace. 12.19.36 # OK if I plug it in the headphones I get minor hum when the unit is on. If I plug the charger in I get LOUD hum. Also if I switch the unit off and unplug the charger the LOUD hum remains. If I plug into the line out I get no hum. 12.20.27 # This is using a pair of powered speakers 12.21.14 # I want to use it on powered speakers at night with the PSU so I don't run the batterie down. 12.21.22 # Line out should be fine 12.21.29 # hmm. Try turning the charger 180 degrees around in the AC socket 12.21.40 # UK plug 12.21.47 # heh. can't do that here :) 12.21.54 # but yeah, sounds like there's a ground loop or something 12.22.01 # ok, then forget it ;-) 12.22.10 # are the speakers and the charger on the same powerboard or whatever? 12.22.12 # in germany this helps sometimes. 12.22.14 # I will have to test a bit more 12.22.28 # yeah I think so 12.22.36 # to ashridah 12.22.50 # lets try something else..brb 12.28.21 # OK what I get is a low hum from both the headphone and line out when on with the PSU. I get a loud hum from the headphone out if the unit is off which changes tone slightly as the unit is powered on but once booted goes baco to the low hum. 12.28.58 # When the player is off with the PSU unplugged I get a hum too. 12.30.05 # When the player is on and booted without the PSU I get total silence from headphone and line out (Apart from when playing something of course). 12.30.33 # maybe linus will know. I gotta go anyhow. 12.30.45 # later 13.01.51 Quit austriancoder ("CGI:IRC") 13.16.03 Join Moos [0] (DrMoos@m175.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 13.32.04 Join Strath [0] (mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a198.wi.tds.net) 13.59.05 Join thegeek [0] (na@s016b.studby.ntnu.no) 13.59.19 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.03.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.07.38 Quit thegeek_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14.09.05 Quit ashridah (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.09.20 Join banan_ [0] (banan@dalink.campus.luth.se) 14.09.26 Quit merbanan (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.11.30 Join ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-122-150.VIC.netspace.net.au) 14.26.28 Quit Rick (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.27.42 Join Rick [0] (rick@pool-71-108-13-143.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 14.27.53 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 14.58.37 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 15.08.37 Join t0mas [0] (~503c08d1@labb.contactor.se) 15.08.50 # hi 15.10.38 Quit Strath ("Client closed") 15.11.44 Join Hansmaulwurf [0] (~maerlyn@p54AADAA1.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.24.10 Join thegeek [0] (~thegeek@s201a.studby.ntnu.no) 15.35.49 Join muesli- [0] (muesli_tv@Bbcb1.b.pppool.de) 15.45.44 Join arfo____ [0] (~arfo@e178102161.adsl.alicedsl.de) 15.45.44 Quit muesli- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.51.51 # hey, I found a strange behaviour of RB after playing a shuffled playlist for some hours: 15.51.51 # the controls need several seconds to react, changing the volume has no effect on the actual output and the volume dispaly (0-100) on status line is reactin really slow 15.54.38 Part arfo____ 15.59.00 Join TCK [0] (TCK@81-86-96-228.dsl.pipex.com) 16.03.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.13.45 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.21.57 Quit CBM-away (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 16.23.21 Join thegeek [0] (~thegeek@s201a.studby.ntnu.no) 17.00.53 Quit t0mas ("CGI:IRC") 17.13.49 Join muesli- [0] (muesli_tv@Bbc76.b.pppool.de) 17.14.43 Join bagawk [0] (~lee@bagawk.user) 17.50.24 Quit bagawk ("Leaving") 17.51.22 Join Maxime [0] (bla@dyn-83-155-8-64.ppp.tiscali.fr) 18.03.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.07.32 Join CBM-away [0] (~BurgerBoy@63.150.80.89) 18.12.19 Join MasterShadow [0] (~d95325ed@labb.contactor.se) 18.12.23 # hi 18.13.41 # anyone ger here? 18.20.38 Quit Hansmaulwurf ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 18.31.01 Quit muesli- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.31.01 # MasterShadow: yes if you mean german ;-) 18.38.16 # has the volume bug been fixed? 18.38.28 # don't have access to my h140 18.40.34 # Coldtoast: no. 18.40.47 # tried this morning. 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Can someone possibly send me or upload the file 'rockboxui' for the iriver sim (X version please)? The one I build keeps crashing on me 20.03.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.05.16 # ANYONE who has a working X11 sim, what version of Glibc are you using? 20.06.07 Join solex_ [0] (~jrschulz@d095117.adsl.hansenet.de) 20.08.52 Quit solex (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.14.32 Quit muesli- (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.19.09 # This is strange. Rockbox sim gives floating point exception on my laptop, but works fine on my desktop. Both are running Gentoo linux. It used to work everywhere 20.19.18 # Anyone know why this may be happening? 20.20.40 # ok.. question for everyone. I'm writing a plugin to pull a random post from a category and display it somewhere on the page. Now I'm trying to decide whether I should grab the whole post (and assume people will use it like I am, on a category that only short posts, like a quotes category, or whether I should take the first X number of characters, or take the first X number of lines... Any suggestions? 20.20.50 # oh.. the guy that asked what it was left. 20.20.52 # blah. 20.30.36 Join lodesi [0] (~moi@lns-vlq-36-gre-82-253-83-50.adsl.proxad.net) 20.30.54 # stevenm: i have the same pb on gentoo.. 20.31.24 # but noidea how to solve it :( 20.31.48 Quit MasterShadow ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 20.35.44 # lodesi, my desktop, though, is horribly out of date 20.36.17 # lodesi, and it WAS working on gentoo earlier.. so my guess it they updated something and screwed us over. I am about to upgrade my glibc, and see if that breals it 20.36.44 # yes,it used to work here as well 20.37.03 # my installation is up to date 20.37.39 # let me just get the stupid thing to BUILD on desktop first.. then I ess with glibc. It is very frustrating, esp since the screen resolution on it is like 1024x768 20.38.42 # Hey people, how do you start the sim WITHOUT sound support? 20.42.50 Join cYmen [0] (~cymen@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 20.42.57 Join bluebrot1er^ [0] (~c28@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 20.43.07 # there is an ifdef at the begining of uisimulator/x11/sound.c, i'm trying without it 20.43.28 # thanks 20.43.52 Quit cYmen_ (Connection reset by peer) 20.43.57 # there, now that I got this thing actually running again (and it takes up most of my screen) I am gonna emerge glibc and hope for the worst 20.44.04 Quit bluebrother^ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.44.12 # lol 20.44.26 # all this trouble for a simple pitch bug 20.44.32 # still the same error :( 20.44.35 # does anyone here have matlab on hand? 20.46.56 # really not looking foreward to calculating 1024 numbers by hand over here.. 21.00.09 # lodesi, looks like this glibc is amost built 21.00.40 # that was fast! 21.01.22 # lodesi, well, it is still building.. i thought it should have been done by now.. but have no idea. It's like, 15 megs 21.01.51 # and if i hear this song one more time, i think i will scream. pitch bend isn't supposed to be this annoying. 21.02.30 # I just moved it from 7 bits to 9 bits, hopefully it make it sound better. but of course, the table gets 4x bigger this way. and naturally, matlab isnt being helpful spitting all the values out 21.03.24 Join indignation [0] (~316165291@c-24-8-196-220.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 21.03.25 Quit indignation (Excess Flood) 21.03.41 # mmh..forme it's like you're speaking chinese, i don't have any idea how playback/decoding works :) 21.05.48 # lodesi, well... 10 minutes til glibc 21.06.11 # hehe 21.06.59 # and if its still works, then the floating point error must be caused by any of the other 10 thousand packages that need updating on here 21.07.24 # lol 21.07.44 # i'll check my logs to see what have been updated here 21.08.13 # yea, ever since I got my laptop, I pretty much stopped using the desktop. that did save my butt at work once, we needed some really outdated ebuilds 21.09.21 # hu, gentoo at work is a dangerous thing .. 21.09.52 # i have it on my laptop, and i can remember some bad week-end trying to recover a stable system... 21.10.08 # haha, tell me about it 21.10.11 # after a bad update :/ 21.10.21 # one time, out of the blue, they add that STUPID gentoo wireless config stuff 21.11.10 # new baselayout, i believe it was. since then, it will not start any wireless interface unless you read through their 100 page config file and figure out how to tell it to let you configure wifi MANUALLY using iwconfig 21.11.26 # lol 21.11.46 # or use the real config. again, desktop to the rescue- got the outdated version of net.eth0, and that saved the day 21.12.52 # speaking of the baselayout, it did change since my rockboxui doesn't works :( 21.13.30 # yea 21.13.35 # a lot of things did probably 21.14.01 # i did a quick strace, didnt see anything unusual... glibc, pthreads, etc 21.14.08 # i figure i start with glibc and friends 21.14.28 # yep a 'break main' in gdb doesn't catch anything... 21.14.31 # then maybe emerge world, and check if it still works, every 5 packages or so 21.15.03 Nick bluebrot1er^ is now known as bluebrother^ (~c28@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 21.15.13 # maybe a specific call inside rockboxui causes this.. maybe shove some debug printfs in it (and catch the sigfpe) 21.15.57 # my roommate had some stuff give him the same floating point exceptions.. apparently it was nothing to do with math, but a bad combination of lib versions 21.17.16 # okay, it built 21.18.55 # a printf dosn't do anything :( 21.19.16 # lodesi, you probably need to catch the sigfpe 21.19.19 # but it doesn't matter 21.19.33 # i upgraded to glibc 2.3.5, and it worked still 21.19.35 Nick CBM-away is now known as CheeseBurgerMan (~BurgerBoy@63.150.80.89) 21.19.38 # then i recompiled rockboxui 21.19.39 # and ran it again 21.19.46 # and there it is- floating point exception 21.20.04 # arghh! 21.20.11 # lodesi, so there you have it- glibc 2.3.5 causes this 21.21.03 # here's a crazy idea- leave a copy of 2.3.4 inside the rockboxui directory (or give an LD_LIBRARY_PATH) and then emerge 2.3.5 for the rest of the system 21.21.03 # well, thx for the solution 21.21.15 # np 21.23.24 Join bagawk [0] (~lee@bagawk.user) 21.23.25 # i think i'll try another crazy idea and emerge the masked latest version of glibc,with the hope it solve the rockbox problem, and doesn't break my system 21.23.43 # yea, that last part is kind of important 21.23.59 # I'd quickpkg the current working version first if I were you 21.24.27 # heu..quickwhat? 21.25.28 # lodesi, quickpkg. it takes that package's files and tars em up 21.25.31 # if it screws up, i boot with a knoppix and downgrade in a chroot 21.25.37 # that works 21.25.57 # be careful, glibc is a dangerous thing, esp with all the crap gentoo does to it 21.26.18 # lol 21.27.55 # oh no! the LATEST latest glibc ebuilds require GCC 3.4 21.28.13 # "oops..." 21.29.37 # there's also a glibc-compat20 use flag 21.29.48 # if that means anything here 21.30.41 # glibc-compat20 - Enable the glibc-compat addon and configure the linuxthreads libc with --without-__thread to enable full support of old binaries 21.30.41 # 21.30.55 # bad idea 21.31.20 # bad idea? 21.31.42 # no thread in libc, isn't that a bad idea? 21.32.11 # i've no idea.. 21.32.20 # lol 21.32.31 # what I want to know, why won't rockboxui work with glibc 2.3.5 in the first place 21.34.04 # those thing really too far from my knowledge 21.34.14 # i'm better at breaking my system 21.34.19 Join ShadowMaster [0] (~d95325ed@labb.contactor.se) 21.34.30 # so emerge -u glibc ;) 21.34.35 # ah bluebrother, buste da? 21.40.02 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 21.40.36 # ShadowMaster, da 21.41.34 Join Stryke` [0] (~Chairman8@cpe-24-168-110-99.si.res.rr.com) 21.42.13 Join tvelocity [0] (~tony@chan530-a146.otenet.gr) 21.42.33 # ShadowMaster: yes ;-) 21.43.18 # lodesi, what is the file which contains main() for rockboxui ? 21.43.41 # uisimulator/x11/screenhack.c 21.46.25 Quit CheeseBurgerMan (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.48.02 # lodesi, strange, I put a printf in there followed by an exit 21.48.06 # still crashes 21.48.14 # seems like it dies before even starting main 21.48.47 # yep, it could some xorg initialisation crashing 21.49.29 # are you talking about the floating point exception? 21.50.20 # yes, floating point or arithmetic excetion 21.50.28 # exception 21.50.52 # i get it before main after loading all libs 21.50.59 # try strace 21.51.30 # i'm gonna have to emerge it first:) 21.51.35 # matsl, it works fine if you have glibc 2.3.4. It dies if you go to glibc 2.3.5 21.51.49 # ok. 21.53.01 # stevenm: you also on gentoo? 21.53.30 # matsl, yes 21.53.54 # matsl, it was all working fine a few months ago. then glibc 2.3.5 came upon us 21.54.19 # matsl, and I just upgraded to glibc 2.3.5 on my other gentoo system and now it does the same floating point error also 21.54.52 # ok. but is it glibc 2.3.5 just on gentoo or everywhere? 21.55.04 # matsl, I only have gentoo, so I do not know 21.55.21 # i'm also on gentoo 21.56.57 # go figure 21.57.06 # of course #gentoo is silent 21.58.21 # I just can't think we spotted a glibc problem here. So many other programs working fine ... !? 21.58.44 Join webguest66 [0] (~51565df6@labb.contactor.se) 21.58.51 # hi 21.58.55 # hi 21.59.05 # i found a strange thing with the fwpatcher.exe 21.59.06 # bluebrother immernoch da? oder stevenm? xD 21.59.17 # ja 21.59.25 # :D 21.59.42 # Kann man bei rockbox ne liste machen wie bei 1.65 nach Artist und Album etc? 22.00.23 # when i first start it up and go to browse, select my fw file, if i dont click patch and click browse again it comes up with an error message 2-3 times in a row and then all i can do is click on the x in top right to close it as it wont accept any other input 22.01.56 # öhm noch da? 22.01.56 Quit webguest66 (Client Quit) 22.02.01 # matsl, right, other stuff works, but why the heck wont the uisim work? 22.02.08 Join webguest09 [0] (~d4406110@labb.contactor.se) 22.02.56 # hmm, dazu brauchst du die Tag-Database 22.03.17 # why dont you guys speak english, that way we can all benefit 22.03.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.03.38 # webguest09: afaik ShadowMaster doesn't speak enough english 22.03.48 # should I give a small translation? 22.04.10 # lodesi, well, glibc-2.3.5-r1 is almost built. 22.04.20 # lots of non english users try to speak english here 22.04.36 # I know ... 22.04.45 # because not everyone is english 22.05.42 # use the private message :) 22.06.21 # I'll try ;-) Is the webclient capable of doing so? 22.06.48 # of course 22.07.28 # ok. I hope I didn't offend someone. 22.07.43 # don't worries 22.07.48 # nope, its just that i learn from discussions 22.07.51 Join Bger [0] (~Bager@84.242.160.70) 22.07.56 # ;-) 22.08.11 # stevenm: about UIsimulator 22.08.31 # austriancoder had the same floating point exception 2-3 days ago 22.08.50 # Bger, yea, it won't run on glibc 2.3.5 (on gentoo anyway). 2.3.4 works fine 22.08.52 # so i guess it's not of your build environment 22.09.06 # heh 22.09.08 # ok 22.09.27 # Bger, you figure if I compile glibc 2.3.4 and then do some LD_LIBRARY_PATH stuff, it will run? 22.09.43 Quit bagawk ("Leaving") 22.09.48 # no, i don't 22.09.57 # didn't know about this glibc thing 22.10.28 # Well I did a look at it quickly, and I tried my binary on a different computer and it ran fine 22.10.49 # I suspected glibc because my friend had some issues with it, also involving the same error 22.10.54 # ok, i guess you're right 22.11.09 # just tried to be helpful 22.11.13 # so I went to a machine with 2.3.4 on it and it worked. Then I installed glibc 2.3.5 on that computer, and it started dying 22.11.22 # Bger, thanks, i appreciate that 22.11.32 # heh, not a big thing 22.11.39 # anyway, bye ;) 22.11.45 Part webguest09 22.11.56 Quit Bger (Client Quit) 22.12.01 # ==29208== Process terminating with default action of signal 8 (SIGFPE) 22.12.01 # ==29208== Integer divide by zero at address 0xB00FC89C 22.12.01 # ==29208== at 0x1B8EC954: (within /lib/ld-2.3.5.so) 22.12.13 # with valgrind... 22.12.54 # then the stack is corrupted and it jumps to a random memory adress 22.14.11 # lodesi, woah!! seems to be working with glibc-2.3.5-r1 22.14.36 # lodesi, I emerged glibc-2.3.5-r1 on my desktop and it looks like it is working 22.14.43 # mine will finish soon,i'll see 22.16.26 # lodesi, emerging it on my laptop, we'll see what happens 22.16.54 # in the meantime, i'm gonna go swim some laps. i be back in like, 20-30 min, it should be done then 22.17.16 # ok, see you 22.17.57 # bye 22.28.21 Quit Stryke` ("Friends don't let friends listen to Anti-Flag") 22.31.40 Join webguest79 [0] (~d9d142ad@labb.contactor.se) 22.31.49 Join Aison [0] (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 22.32.05 Quit webguest79 (Client Quit) 22.32.31 Join TCK [0] (TCK@81-86-100-160.dsl.pipex.com) 22.40.44 # yes!!! 22.41.23 # ah okay 22.41.24 # it's ok with glibc2.3.5-r1 as well here :) 22.41.30 # I also try to speak english here 22.41.39 # you fixed the gentoo sim problemo? 22.42.07 # Bagder: yes it's o, now 22.42.11 # what I wanted to know was how can I create a DB like that one from the 1.65 fw like artist-song-album 22.42.14 # ok 22.42.36 # so upgrading glibc is the thing to do? 22.42.46 # ShadowMaster: you read the wiki page? 22.43.17 # Bagder: yes, but you need t ounmask the latest version first 22.43.29 # ok 22.43.33 # No I didnt 22.43.36 # what wiki page? 22.43.45 # lodesi: I know several people got that problem 22.43.55 # that page: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TagDatabase 22.44.09 # I tried it before and it works pretty nice. 22.44.29 # wow thx 22.44.31 # okay i´ll also try it 22.46.00 Quit TCK- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.52.39 # I have some troubles with the download from Java2 22.53.11 # :( 22.57.53 Quit ShadowMaster ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.03.00 # Bagder, upgraded my second machine to glibc-2.3.5-r1 and it works here as well 23.03.13 # goodie 23.04.16 Join the_winch [0] (~winch@195.60.16.190) 23.04.22 # I been out of the loop for a bit.. is it possible to play sound from a plugin? or does it have to be a codec? 23.05.31 # I think the metronome plugin works fine 23.05.35 # it plays sound 23.07.04 # Ah, all right 23.07.31 # I want to add *actual* sound support to my plugin, instead of just outputting a wav file 23.07.31 # I saw someone making a "drum machine" plugin too 23.07.51 # oh 23.08.02 # I guess the sound playing API still lacks 23.08.04 # Bagder, really? There is a whole bank of drum sounds within the midi soundset 23.08.32 # and the gus patchloader is in cvs already, so that can be useful 23.08.35 # hmm 23.09.34 # By the way, i think the new burger king (taco bell?) commercial, with the band and box of wings, they actually say 'rockbox' 23.10.05 # :-) 23.10.28 # i wasn't even paying attention, then heard 'rockbox' and was like, 'hmm? eh?' 23.12.04 # so how come they say that? I mean what's the context? 23.15.22 # I think it was a box of food and there was a band playing rock music, supposedly due to the food 23.15.40 # advertising is a very bizzare thing 23.15.52 # hehe, yeah 23.16.45 # the extra rockbox logo at the bottom of the sim, is that the remote LCD? 23.16.51 # yeps 23.17.11 # if you enable logf logging, you'll get that in the remote lcd 23.17.38 # otherwise it isn't use much yet 23.17.41 # for some reason now, if you minimize the sim and restore it, the main screen isn't redrawn. the remote lcd part is, though 23.17.49 # oh 23.18.00 # odd 23.20.24 # there, finally, better pitchbend 23.20.38 # makes bad cheezy music from the 80s sound better 23.20.43 # (if that is even possible) 23.22.35 # * stevenm wonders if austriancoder uses gentoo 23.22.42 # he does 23.23.00 # well then there's his problem. saw his issue in the logs 23.23.10 # yes, matsl got it too, also using gentoo 23.23.44 # wow 23.23.53 # somehow though, i am not surprised 23.24.19 # gentoo developers have done much stranger things, causing much more breakage 23.24.28 # like breaking all the nodes on our farm at work 23.24.51 # hehe 23.25.01 # we were like, "oh, no problem, we'll just downgrade", but wait! the old ebuilds have been removed. oooops.. 23.25.39 # that sounds painful 23.26.02 # oh yes. we were saved by the fact that my other machine was so outdated that it had the old ebuild on it 23.26.12 # else we probably would have gotten canned 23.26.16 # i guess kdevelop needs kde libs ;P 23.26.25 # or probably just really yelled at 23.35.31 Quit Rick ("I… don't need to be here.") 23.39.55 Join Rick [0] (rick@pool-71-108-13-143.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 23.58.19 # stevenm: did i get you right in that upgrading glibc to testing fixed the problem?