--- Log for 08.08.105 Server: tolkien.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 16 days and 14 hours ago 00.01.12 # matsl, yes. you need glibc-2.3.5-r1 00.01.52 # stevenm: one more time, thx very much 00.01.54 # gnightall! 00.01.59 # stevenm: ok. 00.02.00 Part lodesi ("Leaving") 00.03.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.08.46 Quit Aison ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.72 :: www.XLhost.de )") 00.15.14 Quit edx (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.16.06 # Does anyone mind if I commit some midi changes? 00.16.46 # nope 00.16.56 # only if you break the build ;-) 00.17.19 # yea.. that's what scares me. I am double-checking if I break anything 00.17.39 # the 20 minutes after commit are probably the longest ever, until the new build status comes up 00.18.18 # yeps 00.19.34 # but I believe it is around 11 minutes ;-) 00.20.11 # well, here goes.. cvs commit -m "Whatever" .. it's -m for the comment, right? 00.20.26 # yes, or let it pop up your editor 00.20.54 # ah, excellent. there it went 00.20.57 # * stevenm runs like hell 00.21.33 Join edx [0] (edx@p54A8FE8C.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.24.22 # that dsp change breaks my sim sound 00.24.46 # Bagder, oops.. 00.24.57 # Bagder, which ? 00.25.14 # Where? 00.25.20 # "/dev/dsp1" instead of "/dev/dsp" 00.25.28 # uisimulator/x11/sound.c 00.25.35 # Bagder, woah, that was NOT supposed to happen 00.26.25 # Alright, here, let me fix that 00.26.33 Quit Rick ("I… don't need to be here.") 00.27.13 # Bagder, sorry 00.27.15 # * stevenm hides 00.27.18 # no worries 00.27.50 # another problem: 00.28.00 # there is no midi2wav.c in apps/plugins 00.29.07 # Bagder, eh?? THAT is strange. But it is here! And it was shown in nano and all 00.29.25 Join Rick [0] (rick@pool-71-108-13-143.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 00.29.37 Join stripwax_ [0] (~stripwax@213-228-241-36.dsl.prodigynet.co.uk) 00.29.48 # Bagder, do you know why this is happening? 00.30.20 # all the xxx2wav plugins were removed 00.30.31 # if you want it back, you must re-add it 00.30.47 # but this proves you use something else than the latest cvs ;-) 00.31.11 # Bagder, I ran checkout, and it all came. 00.31.19 # Ahhh! I forgot the add part 00.32.28 # there, THAT should be it 00.32.43 # funny how the build table script doesn't notice that 00.33.20 # (I'll work on _that_ another day) 00.33.36 # built fine here now 00.34.22 # Bagder, ah, phew 00.34.45 # Bagder, yes, strange- no red 00.35.02 # well hello 00.35.15 # hi 00.36.29 # how's midi? 00.37.15 # stripwax_, just comitted some changes 00.37.52 # oh cool! 00.38.01 # haven't worked on it for a while, work, etc. Now back to work, just redid that pitchpend table, so that cheezy 80s sounds better 00.38.40 # I am waiting for 3x0 support (and more importantly, my paychecks) before buying a device, then I optimize it more 00.41.01 # stevenm - i could take a look. where are the bottlenecks? 00.41.12 # stripwax_, I think inside synth.c 00.41.54 # stevenm - hehe, yeah, - any ideas whereabouts in synth.c? 00.41.55 # stripwax_, probably synthvoice, etc. Right now it won't actually play sound, because of removal of xxx2wav and plugin api not yet having dsp access.. but it will work 00.42.17 # stripwax_, probably synthVoice() and synthSample 00.42.47 # and the code in midi2wav.c which calls synthSample. that runs every sample basically.. most stuff within sequencer.c, etc, runs once every event, which is not nearly as often 00.43.49 Quit Moos (" Want to be different? HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 00.43.59 # cu 00.44.44 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 00.44.45 # stevenm - cool. 00.44.49 # Wow, green build 00.45.32 # stripwax_, yea.. the pitch thing was the big change.. 2 extra bits of percision, sounds MUCH better 00.46.03 # I can make it even more, but then the table gets bigger. it's just size, anyway 00.46.25 # stevenm - hm, using a bitmap for isUsed rather than an array should give a small speedup 00.46.40 # bitmap ? 00.47.38 # yeah. unsigned int isUsed = 0x00000000; that gives 32 channels. set a bit for each channel in use, and your loop in synthSample becomes just if (isUsed & 0x01) //blah isUsed >>= 1; etc 00.48.26 # actually, no reason to think it would necessarily be any faster; but it will use a bit less memory anyway 00.48.37 # stripwax_, I am not sure i understand.. isUsed marks a voice as used, not a whole channel 00.48.56 # It basically says if a voice is currently playing, or is it save to put a new note in that object and activate it 00.49.15 # stevenm - yeah that's what I mean. I should have said voices not channels. 00.52.09 # stripwax_, what if I want more than 32 voices? Multiple variables? 00.52.14 # arg, stupid wifi 00.53.22 # exactly. 00.53.33 # ah.. that's an idea 01.03.57 Join alxcm [0] (~alx@68-232-83-247.chvlva.adelphia.net) 01.04.02 # why, hello everyone 01.04.10 # i just discovered a cool bug 01.04.43 # attempting to play an m3u playlist with nonexistant files in it 01.04.52 # results in an infinite "Loading..." loop 01.04.58 # or at least a really, really long one 01.05.07 # during which the backlight is on constantly 01.05.15 # weird 01.05.20 # which is just as good, i suppose, because that way my battery will run down faster 01.05.39 # and i can turn the player off :D 01.06.23 # the glass is half full, eh? 01.06.33 # bugs are usually not good :-) 01.06.46 # yeah 01.07.19 # well it sucks, because i had a fully charged battery 01.07.33 # so now i've gotta wait like 10+ hours 01.07.41 # because rockbox gets such awesome battery life 01.07.47 # and the hdd is not spinning 01.08.01 # this is for the iriver port, btw 01.08.03 # get out your paperclip 01.08.28 # i dont think the iriver has a hard reset :( 01.08.29 # the playlist read code is identical for all ports 01.08.36 # alxcm: it does 01.08.38 # oh? 01.08.39 # how? 01.08.46 # paperclip in the bottom whole 01.08.56 # well, its fine that it takes a while 01.09.12 # or goes into an infinite loop, as long as it'll still process interrupts 01.09.19 # but it doesn't seem to shutdown 01.09.25 # when i hold stop 01.09.30 # ok, i'll go reset it 01.09.31 # thanks :D 01.09.40 # acutally 01.09.46 # I think the bug is different than so 01.09.54 # oh? 01.09.59 # because the playlist loader doesn't know if the files exist or not 01.10.07 # oh, ok 01.10.10 # it just index up the playlist file 01.10.15 # so it's trying to PLAY the nonexistant file? 01.10.23 # but it could of course fail on the first attempt to use the first file 01.10.41 # so it should then advance to the next file? 01.10.50 # well 01.10.51 # yes 01.10.54 # i had the files in a folder in /, and then moved them to /Archives 01.10.59 # but didn't change the playlist 01.11.00 # but Slasheri has made it differently 01.11.07 # you know what's funny? 01.11.14 # i really didn't want to listen to that playlist either 01.11.21 # i was just checking out rockbox's playlist support 01.11.21 # hehe 01.11.33 # and i forgot it was a bad list 01.11.38 # :D 01.11.42 # * alxcm finds his paperclip 01.14.18 # me go sleep 01.17.00 Part stripwax_ 01.35.00 Quit gromit` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.35.02 Join gromit`` [0] (~gromit`@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 01.35.34 Quit Sucka ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") 01.38.25 Quit the_winch ("This computer has gone to sleep") 01.39.13 Quit courtc ("Leaving") 01.49.03 Join courtc [0] (~court@adsl-33-139-163.asm.bellsouth.net) 02.03.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.54.45 Join ShamrockMan [0] (ShamrockMa@68-112-49-085.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com) 03.15.17 Quit courtc (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.00.29 Join 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(ashridah@220-253-123-240.VIC.netspace.net.au) 09.51.10 DEBUG EOF from server (Success) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 545) 09.51.10 *** Cleanup 09.51.10 *** Cleanup 09.51.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.51.10 *** Exit 09.51.10 *** Started Dancer V4.16 09.51.10 DEBUG connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 150) 09.51.10 *** Connected to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 09.51.10 *** Logfile for #rockbox started 09.51.24 *** Server message 501: 'logbot :Unknown MODE flag' 09.51.24 Mode "logbot :+i" by logbot 09.51.24 Join logbot [0] (~bjst@193.15.23.131) 09.51.24 Join DarkkOne [0] (~chatzilla@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 09.51.24 Join TCK [0] (TCK@81-86-100-160.dsl.pipex.com) 09.51.24 Join banan_ [0] (banan@dalink.campus.luth.se) 09.51.25 Join dionoea [0] (~dionoea@muscipula152.via.ecp.fr) 09.51.27 Join crashd [0] (nobody@217.147.82.18) 09.51.30 Join MO-Pantsu [0] (MO-Pantsu@deadman3000.plus.com) 09.51.37 Join Seed [0] (ben@l192-117-115-168.broadband.actcom.net.il) 09.51.39 Join HCl [0] (hcl@titania.student.utwente.nl) 09.52.16 Join ChuckleMan [0] (ShamrockMa@68-112-49-085.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com) 09.54.06 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 09.54.11 Join ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-123-240.VIC.netspace.net.au) 09.56.13 Join pabs [0] (~pabs@xor.pablotron.org) 09.56.32 Join odd [0] (mrodd@fangorn.starshadow.com) 09.56.42 Join CoCoLUS [0] (~coco@h081217139221.dyn.cm.kabsi.at) 09.56.49 Join mbr [0] (~mb@stz-softwaretechnik.de) 09.57.01 Join LEXLuTHoR [0] (I=babylon@ip-185-152.evc.net) 09.57.01 Join gromit` [0] (N=gromit`@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 09.57.01 Join ze [0] (I=ze@ca-dstreet-cuda2-c9a-73.snbrca.adelphia.net) 09.57.01 Join edx [0] (I=edx@p54A8F063.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.57.05 Join Nibbler [0] (N=sven@port-212-202-193-100.dynamic.qsc.de) 09.57.16 Join courtc [0] (N=court@adsl-33-139-163.asm.bellsouth.net) 09.57.16 Join pike [0] (I=pike@c83-249-120-126.bredband.comhem.se) 09.57.17 Join Febs [0] (N=Febs@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 09.57.19 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@82.182.26.5) 09.57.32 Quit pike (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 09.57.32 NSplit calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 09.57.32 Quit Febs (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 09.57.34 Join pill [0] (I=pill@cybercrimi.nl) 09.57.53 Join Rick [0] (I=rick@pool-71-108-13-143.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 09.57.53 NHeal calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 09.57.53 NJoin pike [0] (I=pike@c83-249-120-126.bredband.comhem.se) 09.57.58 NJoin Febs [0] (N=Febs@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 09.57.59 Join thegeek [0] (N=thegeek@s201a.studby.ntnu.no) 09.58.50 Join Lynx_ [0] (N=lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 09.59.00 Join Slasher [0] (I=miipekk@ihme.org) 09.59.19 Join Naked [0] (I=naked@naked.iki.fi) 09.59.37 Nick Naked is now known as Hadaka (I=naked@naked.iki.fi) 10.00.06 # see you on the other side. 10.01.11 Join alxcm [0] (N=alx@68-232-83-247.chvlva.adelphia.net) 10.01.12 Join silencer [0] (~silencer@zen.via.ecp.fr) 10.01.21 Join Ismo [0] (laitinei@huippu.net) 10.01.29 Join crwl [0] (~crawlie@dsl-83.148.225-157-dynip.ssp.fi) 10.01.34 Join godzirra [0] (N=shawn@c-24-131-13-213.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 10.01.37 Join crash [0] (N=crash@a15167580.alturo-server.de) 10.01.38 Join bluebrother^ [0] (N=c28@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 10.01.38 Join cYmen [0] (N=cymen@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 10.01.47 Join QT [0] (as@area51.users.madwifi) 10.01.50 Join dwihno [0] (N=dw@81.8.224.89) 10.01.52 Join igor47 [0] (N=igor47@temple.src.uchicago.edu) 10.02.07 Join Asku [0] (N=aksu@adsl-39.180-DynIP.ssp.fi) 10.02.16 Join solex [0] (N=jrschulz@c204229.adsl.hansenet.de) 10.05.21 DEBUG EOF from server (Success) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 545) 10.05.21 *** Cleanup 10.05.21 *** Cleanup 10.05.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.05.21 *** Exit 10.05.21 *** Started Dancer V4.16 10.05.21 *** Connected to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 10.05.21 *** Logfile for #rockbox started 10.05.21 *** Server message 501: 'logbot_ :Unknown MODE flag' 10.05.21 Mode "logbot_ :+i" by logbot_ 10.05.21 Join logbot_ [0] (N=bjst@labb.contactor.se) 10.05.21 Join solex [0] (N=jrschulz@c204229.adsl.hansenet.de) 10.05.21 Join Asku [0] (N=aksu@adsl-39.180-DynIP.ssp.fi) 10.05.21 Join igor47 [0] (N=igor47@temple.src.uchicago.edu) 10.05.21 Join dwihno [0] (N=dw@81.8.224.89) 10.05.21 Join QT [0] (as@area51.users.madwifi) 10.05.21 Join cYmen [0] (N=cymen@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 10.05.21 Join bluebrother^ [0] (N=c28@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 10.05.21 Join crash [0] (N=crash@a15167580.alturo-server.de) 10.05.21 Join godzirra [0] (N=shawn@c-24-131-13-213.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 10.05.21 Join crwl [0] (~crawlie@dsl-83.148.225-157-dynip.ssp.fi) 10.05.21 Join Ismo [0] (laitinei@huippu.net) 10.05.21 Join silencer [0] (~silencer@zen.via.ecp.fr) 10.05.21 Join alxcm [0] (N=alx@68-232-83-247.chvlva.adelphia.net) 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(kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.29.35 Quit Asku (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.29.35 Quit crash (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.29.35 Quit Lynx_ (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.29.35 Quit Febs (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.29.35 Nick Lynx0 is now known as Lynx_ (N=lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 10.29.35 Nick [1]Febs is now known as Febs (N=Febs@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 10.30.08 Quit odd (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.30.08 Quit Ismo (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.30.08 Quit Seed (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.30.08 Quit solex (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.30.08 Quit cYmen (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.30.08 Quit bluebrother^ (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.30.08 Quit thegeek (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.30.08 Quit pike (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.30.08 Quit Rick (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.30.09 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (I=rick@pool-71-108-13-143.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 10.30.45 Quit LinusN (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.30.45 Quit ashridah (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.30.45 Quit MO-Pantsu (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.30.45 Quit godzirra (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.31.56 NHeal kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 10.31.56 NJoin Ismo [0] (I=laitinei@huippu.net) 10.32.09 NJoin solex [0] (N=jrschulz@c204229.adsl.hansenet.de) 10.32.14 NJoin bluebrother^ [0] (N=c28@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 10.32.17 Join crash_ [0] (N=crash@a15167580.alturo-server.de) 10.32.19 Join pabs [0] (N=pabs@xor.pablotron.org) 10.32.34 NJoin cYmen [0] (N=cymen@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 10.35.12 Join QT [0] (I=as@dsl-082-083-078-239.arcor-ip.net) 10.35.12 NJoin odd [0] (I=mrodd@fangorn.starshadow.com) 10.35.12 NJoin ChuckleMan [0] (I=Shamrock@68-112-49-085.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com) 10.35.12 NJoin LinusN [0] (N=linus@labb.contactor.se) 10.35.12 NJoin ashridah [0] (I=ashridah@220-253-123-240.VIC.netspace.net.au) 10.35.12 NJoin MO-Pantsu [0] (I=MO-Pants@deadman3000.plus.com) 10.35.12 NJoin godzirra [0] (N=shawn@c-24-131-13-213.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 10.35.20 # wee 10.35.26 # "tricks"? 10.35.50 # tricks? 10.36.06 Join Asku [0] (N=aksu@adsl-39.180-DynIP.ssp.fi) 10.40.05 # things. life. etc 10.44.35 Join Cka3ka [0] (N=Cka3ka@ool-4355b700.dyn.optonline.net) 10.44.39 # Hey 10.45.07 # anybody around here not idle? =-) 10.45.55 # ashridah: ah, well, fine i guess 10.47.02 # hey linus 10.47.34 # linus: i had a talk with someone here, dont rememebr who it was, but it was not a bad idea 10.48.31 # bah its 4:40 am, im too tired to think about anything lol 10.48.34 # it just hit me 10.48.39 # perfect time to write emails =-0 10.48.43 Quit Cka3ka (Client Quit) 10.49.20 # * LinusN is confused 10.49.40 Join einhirn [0] (I=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 10.55.04 Join ShadowMaster [0] (N=d95335b8@labb.contactor.se) 11.13.13 # no shuttle landing today :/ 11.18.07 Join thegeek [0] (N=thegeek@s201a.studby.ntnu.no) 11.18.23 # not now, at least 11.42.16 # can anyone help me? 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nah, weather's fricking important. 12.08.37 # if it's too cloudy, or there's a pressure high, etc, things aren't worth risking 12.08.49 # yeah, but it seems the eyes of the world are upon them nowadays :) 12.08.52 # it's also why the weather's got to be decent at several emergency landing sites during takeoff 12.09.03 # this has always been the case 12.09.11 Join zezayer [0] (N=jake@87.81.166.52) 12.09.28 # it's not something new they've instituted, although they're less blase about it 12.09.45 # I for one can't wait for the next shuttle replacement, whatever it will be :) 12.10.44 # but it doesn't seem like there is anything that can replace the fragile heat-resistant tiles 12.11.06 # so the next shuttle will probally have the same vulnerabilities 12.11.33 # i think they need to dig out refrigeration lasers :) 12.11.44 Join Aison [0] (N=hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 12.11.46 # haha 12.11.51 # * ashridah reads too much scifi 12.11.57 # but what's gonna protect the lasers 12.12.22 # a really REALLY clean bit of glass :) 12.12.31 # (one speck of dust, and SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS 12.12.37 # * ssab missed Friday's Battlestar Galatica 12.12.40 # :( 12.12.46 # yeah 12.13.14 # heh, at least the space battles in that seemed reasonably realistic. 12.14.00 # well it's kinda interesting now that they get the whole religion schemes in 12.14.20 # although I would rather not have wackos in there 12.17.35 # what i find entertaining is that the christian union at my uni is freaking out about the da vinci code 12.17.51 # the da vinci code is "faction" 12.18.02 # it's a bad one at that too 12.18.18 # don't know why it gets too much attention 12.18.45 # I listened to the audio book, and man it is horrible 12.18.51 # "faction" half fiction, half fact? 12.18.53 # heh 12.18.58 # i read part of it 12.19.00 # yes 12.19.48 # i'd actually rate it on par with constantine :) 12.20.00 # the Christians are so secure that when they see something even remotely threatening, they scream and yell 12.20.22 # if by that you meant bad, then I agree 12.20.39 # yeah, i do 12.20.48 # :) 12.20.56 # nice special effects, but fuck, if someone's believing it, it's because it challenges their insecurity. 12.21.01 # the rest of us sure don't give a fuck. 12.21.09 # yep 12.22.25 # wow it's 6 am here and I still haven't slept 12.22.57 # hey have you messed around with openMosix yet, ashridah 12.23.14 # ould you like someone to hit you over the head, gauranteed to bring sleep 12.23.17 # looks interesting 12.23.33 # sure would, if they can come here 12.24.01 # run into a wall, same thing, and you can do it yourself 12.24.21 # I would but I'm such a chicken 12.25.09 # openmosix? that's the po'-mans clustering, correct? 12.25.18 # yes 12.25.27 # no. 12.25.56 # * ssab thinks about patching a kernel with that and then put them all on a remastered knoppix cd 12.26.47 # then bam, insert cd's into unattended boxes, instant cluster 12.26.54 Join pike [0] (I=pike@c83-249-120-126.bredband.comhem.se) 12.28.23 # i must be missing something. 12.28.52 # my lecturer's used clean : rm -f ${TARGETS} rm -f ${INTER} and claims that those two are make builtins. 12.28.59 # 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You must register and identify with NickServ before talking to this user.' 12.48.17 NJoin hicks [0] (N=hicks@zeus.mups.co.uk) 12.49.00 # boo @ load balancing 12.49.17 DEBUG EOF from server (Success) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 545) 12.49.17 *** Cleanup 12.49.17 *** Cleanup 12.49.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.49.17 *** Exit 12.49.17 *** Started Dancer V4.16 12.49.17 DEBUG connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 150) 12.49.17 *** Connected to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 12.49.17 *** Logfile for #rockbox started 12.49.26 *** Server message 501: 'logbot :Unknown MODE flag' 12.49.26 Mode "logbot :+i" by logbot 12.49.27 Join logbot [0] (N=bjst@labb.contactor.se) 12.49.27 Join Seed [0] (I=ben@l192-117-115-168.broadband.actcom.net.il) 12.49.27 Join HCl [0] (I=hcl@titania.student.utwente.nl) 12.49.27 Join gromit` [0] (N=gromit`@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 12.49.27 Join crashd [0] (I=nobody@badger.ing.me.uk) 12.49.27 Join hicks [0] 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can't reproduce it with the current cvs 13.05.43 # but it isn't fixed yet 13.05.44 # hi Moos :) 13.05.54 # Linus: ok thanks 13.07.10 # Slasheri: no civil service today? :D 13.07.27 Nick bluebrot1er^ is now known as bluebrother^ (N=c28@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 13.07.53 # yes i have, i just got to irc for a few minutes before lectures continue .) 13.08.29 # hehe, good luck ;) 13.09.03 # thx, now i have to go 13.09.15 # have a good day 13.23.39 # Cool, bug volume don't apear here too with the last beelding edges build :) 13.23.49 # badness 13.24.21 # i can't replicate it 13.25.03 # Strange, i remenber this problem puzzled a bit Lear 13.26.24 # i'll look @ the mailing list 13.28.51 Join webguest86 [0] (N=c31ce021@labb.contactor.se) 13.29.25 # Moos: the problem is that the uda1380 stops responding on the i2c bus 13.30.02 # ohh :( 13.30.41 # maybe you know how to fix it ? :) 13.31.05 # i will, when i find out how to make it happen 13.31.26 # as of now, i can't reproduce the bug 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however, can deal with mem-mem transfers 15.32.23 # iirc 15.32.35 # yes, but i have iriver :)) 15.33.50 # i haven't read the isp1362 data sheets 15.34.02 # i have read it ... 15.34.04 # does it have any buffering? 15.34.11 # 4096 bytes 15.34.21 # in fact it's 2 devices in one 15.34.26 # USB host & usb defice 15.34.48 # and the 2 devices have separate buffers 15.34.55 # how large can a usb frame be? 15.35.04 # but these 4096 bytes are ... w8 15.35.16 # * LinusN knows very little about usb in general 15.35.20 # * Bger too 15.35.26 # but i started to read 15.35.39 # and i've uploaded some docs in wiki 15.36.44 Quit Febs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.36.44 Nick [1]Febs is now known as Febs (N=Febs@64-190-36-214.client.cypresscom.net) 15.37.47 # Bagder: hi, about the automatic playlist entry removal, i think better solution could be to add some indicator to playlist system that would set to true if for all invalid entries 15.37.49 # as i said, i don't know much, but i can't see why full speed usb would require dma 15.37.58 # -if 15.38.04 # Slasher: why? 15.38.22 # that way playlist_next etc. would automatically skip the invalid entries 15.38.35 # LinusN: it's quite hard to the skipping other way 15.38.39 # +do 15.38.49 # we don't have that today, and the archos playback skips them nicely 15.39.15 # yes, it's possible to do but that requires some ugly coding to get it work reliable 15.39.32 # is the archos playback code ugly? 15.40.32 # hmm, how does it handle it while buffering several tracks into memory at same time and there is at least one invalid entry between the valid entries? 15.41.10 # it keeps track of how many positions it has to skip to get to the next valid entry 15.41.35 # ah, ok. that was the way i also thought 15.41.48 # i agree that it isn't all that "clean" 15.42.03 # but i think it would be more realiable and nicer code if that's handled by the playlist code 15.42.23 # if you can find a cleaner solution, i'm all ears 15.42.38 # i will take a look when i get to home :) 15.42.54 # goodie 15.43.19 Quit silencer (Nick collision from services.) 15.43.21 Join silencer [0] (N=silencer@zen.via.ecp.fr) 15.43.22 Quit silencer (Nick collision from services.) 15.43.33 # btw, is that problem known (at least with iriver) that saving loaded playlist again with the same filename causes it to go corrupted? 15.44.27 # i think the code could in that case first save it to a temporary file, remove original file and finally rename that temp file 15.45.02 # that is probably a general bug 15.45.16 # i suggest you file a bug report 15.45.30 # ok, i just have found my playlist corrupt several times when i have saved it 15.46.03 # i try to do that soon (at least i know how to reproduce the bug) 15.47.24 # time to go home 15.47.27 # cu later 15.47.30 Part LinusN 15.48.22 Join silencer_ [0] (N=silencer@zen.via.ecp.fr) 15.55.11 Nick banan_ is now known as merbanan (I=banan@dalink.campus.luth.se) 16.05.30 Quit Bger (Read error: 104 (Connection 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16.47.36 # lol really? 16.47.38 # get a usb2.0 interface card. 16.47.41 # sure. 16.47.42 # An adapter perhaps? 16.47.46 # hm 16.47.49 # and how do this works? 16.48.03 # and how much do it costs? :( 16.49.10 # lowest price I've seen is 12 EUR. 16.49.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.51.24 # isn't that quite bad for the harddisk, excessive usage? 16.54.29 # hum what do that means? 16.55.37 # i've read somewhere that those 1.8 inch drives don't like excessive usage like install/load games or even an os (some ipod user put linux on it) 16.55.41 # MasterShadow: see my pm :) 16.57.48 # :D 16.57.50 # I have seen it 16.59.17 Join Sucka [0] (N=NNSCRIPT@host81-156-208-120.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) 17.02.43 Quit Nobby (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.03.30 # CoCoLUS : they prob have lower specs that 2.5 and 3.5 drives 17.03.44 # but I dont think running a game from it now and then would _harm_ it 17.03.57 # but dont trust me 17.04.00 # trust amiconn 17.04.10 # he is the 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So you can adjust it. 17.24.25 # ah ok 17.24.36 # but why do I want to use the 3rd one? 17.24.49 # if you want to divide the voltage. 17.24.56 # oh ok 17.25.16 # * bluebrother^ is scraping his head about the correct english terms :) 17.25.24 # doesn't matter 17.25.26 # I get it ;) 17.25.32 # :) 17.25.35 # it is connected to some IC I'm looking at 17.25.48 # 1 end is connected to GND, and the other 2 are on the IC 17.26.05 # and we think it's used as a reference voltage 17.26.27 # so it could be the 1 IC pin being a reference voltage. 17.26.37 # so you've got a voltage divider 17.26.58 # the resulting voltage (of the 3rd pin) is always somewhere in between GND and Aref 17.28.06 # yes 17.28.28 # need to go now. BBL (an hour or so) 17.39.27 Join muesli- [0] (I=muesli_t@Bc1e9.b.pppool.de) 17.42.38 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! 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I'll take a look at it 19.31.01 # what output voltage do you want? 19.31.17 # variable... but mainly 2 to 7 is ok 19.31.26 # ok. What current? 19.31.38 # the chip itself can do 150mA. 19.31.57 # if you don't want to have more -> Fig. 1 19.32.31 # if you want to get a higher current you need an external load transistor -> Fig. 5 19.33.32 # one of them should fit. 19.34.37 Quit TCK- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.35.46 # jup 19.35.48 # 5 is ok 19.37.48 # Does anyone here have a BDM ? 19.38.05 # * bluebrother^ not 19.38.07 # Linus... 19.40.29 Quit einhirn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.43.32 Join xen` [0] (I=nop@stg25-1-82-238-117-1.fbx.proxad.net) 19.43.49 # bluebrother? 19.43.57 Join XavierGr [0] (N=XavierGr@ppp9-adsl-31.ath.forthnet.gr) 19.44.02 # we have something looking like fig 4 19.44.20 # but the output current should be adjustable 19.44.25 # a second ... 19.44.28 Quit MasterShadow ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 19.45.12 # that regulated output is connected to the "right" pin of a variable resistor 19.45.21 # and the middle and left pin are unkown now 19.45.35 # hi. 19.45.39 # to what should those 2 be connected? 19.45.43 # hi XavierGR 19.46.04 # t0mas: did you fixed the iriver firmware? 19.46.50 Join MasterShadow [0] (N=d95335b8@labb.contactor.se) 19.47.33 # XavierGr: no, still haven't had time to look at my iriver 19.48.33 # so you seem very busy these days... 19.49.00 # yes, I am 19.49.33 # ok. 19.50.05 # it seems your var resistor is connected to CURR SENS, IN- and GND 19.50.13 # i.e. replacing R1 and R2 19.51.32 # like note 6 on page 4 19.52.01 # erm... that makes the voltage adjustable 19.52.19 # this thing is supposed to make the A adjustable 19.52.30 # (we have that other one also) 19.52.49 # oh, ok. 19.52.52 # Misread :) 19.53.02 # np 19.53.23 # (there is also a very large capicitator left... ghehe...) 19.54.02 # you have the device already built? 19.54.30 # no, then we would have duplicated that onje 19.54.32 # *one 19.54.47 # it is a pile of components... and a challenge to get em together :) 19.55.50 # what are you building? 19.56.02 # a power supply 19.56.20 # for fun or you want to power up something specific? 19.56.54 # as a challenge 19.57.03 # no real target to power yet :) 19.57.43 # good I wanted to build something like this in the past... 19.58.17 Quit bagawk ("Leaving") 20.00.07 Join Nibbler [0] (N=sven@port-212-202-193-100.dynamic.qsc.de) 20.04.12 # t0mas: you need to put it somehow to CURR LIM but I'm not sure how exactly 20.04.16 # at least for now :) 20.04.37 # but... 20.04.48 # you have 3 pins on a variable resistor 20.04.52 # 1, 2 and 3 20.05.17 # 3 is connected to the output from scheme 4 20.05.34 # designated as "Regulated output." there 20.05.38 # Vo 20.05.55 # 1 and 2 are unkown :) 20.06.35 # is CURR SENS connected to somewhere? 20.06.48 # * t0mas checks 20.06.55 # yes 20.07.05 # it's connected to the regulated output 20.07.09 # (as in scheme 4) 20.08.59 # * bluebrother^ has tomatos on his eyes 20.09.07 # or something similar. 20.09.26 # look at fig 6 -- there is it. 20.09.36 # R3 and R4 do the current limiting. 20.14.20 # ah ok 20.14.39 # it doesn't fit in the things already there 20.15.25 # hmm. It's a bit tricky as I'm not into this OpAmp stuff. 20.17.58 # I'm away for the next ~20 mins. Need to go home ;-) 20.18.31 # does anyone here what opendir() readdir() functions do? 20.18.38 # k 20.18.52 # I am confused as to their usability 20.27.42 Join LinusN [0] (N=linus@labb.contactor.se) 20.29.10 Join preglow [0] (N=thomj@bacchus.pvv.ntnu.no) 20.29.49 Quit zezayer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.29.56 # hi Linus!!! 20.30.09 # oh and preglow too 20.31.03 # Linus: do you know what opendir() and readdir() does? 20.31.48 # Hi LinusN 20.32.03 # LinusN, you have a BDM right ? 20.32.16 # XavierGr: yes i do 20.32.25 # stevenm: yes i do :-) 20.32.33 # yo 20.32.37 # yo 20.32.40 # whats up? 20.32.44 # lots of neat coding? 20.32.54 # It's a long time since I saw one of you here 20.33.12 # im moving to internet land in a weeks time, think ill be online much more often then 20.33.21 # :) 20.33.36 # LinusN, I have seen a schematic for a fairly simple (flip flops and nand shmitt triggers) BDM device.. PD_BDM I think it was called. Would this work for resurrecting a dead H3x0 from bad flashing? 20.33.59 Quit t0mas ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 20.34.17 # most simple bdm devices won't work on the coldfire because of sensitive clock timing 20.34.46 # preglow: not much going on, i just came back from vacation 20.34.55 # LinusN, i mean this one- http://cmp.felk.cvut.cz/~pisa/m683xx/fig/bdm_pd.gif 20.35.00 # LinusN, that will not work? 20.35.13 # preglow: i have an interesting problem for you if you are interested in libmad debugging 20.35.28 # LinusN, er http://cmp.felk.cvut.cz/~pisa/m683xx/fig/bdm_pd.pdf 20.35.33 Quit MasterShadow ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 20.36.12 # stevenm: no, a cpu32 bdm won't cut it i'm afraid 20.36.38 # LinusN, anything I can build out of PIC chips? 20.37.35 # stevenm: not really, you would need a PAL/GAL 20.37.52 # LinusN, i remember those being annoying, and expensive 20.38.22 # LinusN, I want to continue working on midi, but i need a device now... and if i ever get paid at work, i'm gonnag et an h3x0.. wondering if i can help out on the bootloader too, but need bdm first 20.39.02 # Midi on iriver, that is a good cause... 20.39.41 # XavierGr, 78% realtime atm.. but the soundset is really good 20.40.16 # stevenm: i see 20.41.03 # wooo! nice indeed for a midi lover 20.41.23 # so do you think that you can optimize it to realtime? 20.44.04 # XavierGr, it is possible.. right now, it will probably run realtime (or close) if you drop the output sampling rate to like 11Khz 20.44.40 # XavierGr, we were optimistic about it, because you can still do optimization in ASM, and all that emac stuff.. but I onlt have a computer, not an actual device, so I can't do anything with assembly yet 20.45.18 # so why no produce a 11khz build for commit? I have a lot of midis! 20.45.41 # XavierGr, well.. it doesn't actually OUTPUT sound 20.45.52 # XavierGr, if you have a sim, you can use it to play sound thru the computer 20.46.21 Join MasterShadow [0] (N=d95335b8@labb.contactor.se) 20.46.27 # XavierGr, the problem is, the thing is a plugin, not really a codec. and I hear that the plugin api does not have yet support for outputting sound 20.47.14 # yeah I think thats true (though there is a patch for metronome plugin that outputs something like a sound) 20.47.22 Quit xen` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.48.09 Join matsl [0] (N=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 20.49.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.49.44 Join glow_ [0] (N=thomj@bacchus.pvv.ntnu.no) 20.50.00 # w00t 20.52.54 Nick glow_ is now known as prethom (N=thomj@bacchus.pvv.ntnu.no) 20.56.32 Quit preglow ("Lost terminal") 21.00.23 Join hardeep [0] (I=hardeeps@freeshell.ORG) 21.10.09 Quit ChuckleMan ("Connection reset by self") 21.11.06 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.11.22 Nick Lynx_ is now known as Lynx_awy (N=lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 21.25.10 # the hebrew bidirectional patch is finally commited 21.27.21 # It's been a long time since last commit... :p 21.27.35 # Things are quite quite here! 21.28.14 # summer, you know 21.29.09 # tons of things i want to do, just need a dev env 21.29.12 # yeah, I am like the house type person, though I went to my village for a week. 21.29.27 # Did you go any vacations Linus? 21.30.29 # yes, i went to an island on the west coast of sweden 21.31.57 # linus, any chance of taking a look at the forums? theres a fix for the volume-change-lag bug 21.32.05 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=1139.60 21.34.41 # i'm not a fan of inserting sleep() calls to solve timing problems 21.36.51 Quit Nobby (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.40.36 Join Psy-Dead [0] (N=nobby@cpc1-bele3-3-1-cust167.belf.cable.ntl.com) 21.41.00 # isnt a sleep call a better thing than a bug? at least until a proper fix is found 21.41.18 Nick Psy-Dead is now known as nobby (N=nobby@cpc1-bele3-3-1-cust167.belf.cable.ntl.com) 21.41.37 # Psy-Dead: just like painkillers to cure an aching tooth 21.42.07 # painkillers are still useful until you can go to the dentist :) 21.42.24 # Ah, but until the tooth is properly cured, I'd rather have the painkillers than suffer the pain! 21.42.35 # oh yes, but in this case the workaround will hide the bug and it won't get fixed properly 21.43.05 # At least code can't get used to painkillers so... 21.43.17 # no addiction problem 21.43.31 # also, something seems wrong with the automatic CVS build thingy 21.43.32 # 2005-08-08 19:23 Build expected to complete around 19:34 21.43.40 # time is now 19:48 21.45.34 # and the homepage isnt showing the commit at all 21.47.20 Join mrbigglesworth [0] (N=450aa184@labb.contactor.se) 21.48.20 # the time estimate is sometimes wrong 21.48.32 # its way off 21.48.43 # still not built 21.49.00 # if i were to use an Iriver H-1x0 regularly as an external harddrive, would that lower its life expectancy? 21.50.25 # nobby: it's done now 21.50.43 # mrbigglesworth: probably 21.50.47 # the Hard Drive has a life of 300,000 hours MTBF 21.51.11 # according to the manufacturer 21.51.28 # MTBF? 21.51.28 # 300,000 hours of accessing, i presume? 21.51.44 # Mean Time Between Failures 21.52.01 # well I've got 2 hard drives! 1: 40GB and 2:60GB lucky me! :) 21.55.18 Quit mrbigglesworth ("CGI:IRC") 21.57.51 # http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&group_id=44306&aid=1254094 21.57.55 # rockblox anyone? 21.58.15 # http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&group_id=44306&aid=1239851 21.58.30 # and chached level data for sokoban (for newbs like me who retry a lot) 22.00.16 # gotta go later all! 22.00.18 Quit XavierGr () 22.01.31 Join sao [0] (N=sao@AMontsouris-152-1-14-171.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr) 22.01.34 # hi all 22.02.03 # someone can help with wps writing ? 22.02.31 # sure 22.02.34 # what do you need? 22.05.44 # sao? 22.05.51 # helloooooooooooooooooooooo 22.05.55 # * nobby slaps sao around a bit with a large trout 22.06.05 # sry nobby 22.06.11 # s'ok 22.06.14 # is it possible to display a cover ? 22.06.19 # not yet 22.06.26 # planned so ? 22.06.38 # i dont think anyone is working on it right now 22.06.59 # the problem is that the CPU must be at 120MHZ to use 33 shade greyscale 22.07.04 # oh oh 22.07.07 # so it'd use too much battery power 22.07.21 # unless you had 3 shade grey covers, which'd look shit 22.07.31 # ok, lol 22.08.09 # another question, is it possible to combine 2 infos on same line, one left aligned, second right aligned ? 22.08.58 # theres a patch allowing that 22.09.09 # but i think it causes a few bugs 22.09.22 # huh k 22.09.24 # what I would do would be to centre align it and pad it out with spaces 22.09.45 # have been using that patch for ~2 weeks but not recognized any "new" bugs 22.10.09 # k thought about it but when displaying dynamic things ... :o~ 22.10.28 # is linus still here? 22.10.41 # since he does 99% of the patch commiting :) 22.10.46 # HINT HINT LINUS :P 22.10.59 # * nobby pokes LinusN with a stick 22.11.52 # ouch 22.12.05 # it wasnt sharp :P 22.12.31 # also, any
possibility as in html ? 22.12.36 # could be a good tag 22.12.43 # whats
do? 22.13.26 # no one done any more work on speex? 22.13.28 # line crossing screen 22.13.36 # _____________________________________ 22.13.37 # done :P 22.13.38 # yep 22.13.46 # thx underscores 22.13.49 # :D 22.13.58 # or draw one in a BMP and use that 22.14.05 # k 22.14.42 # also ? while usb connected ? possible to browse & test wps ? 22.14.53 # no 22.14.56 # k 22.14.59 # usb mode takes over the HDD 22.15.02 # so no browsing 22.15.17 Quit MasterShadow ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.15.17 Join MasterShadow [0] (N=d95335b8@labb.contactor.se) 22.15.22 Quit MasterShadow (Client Quit) 22.15.29 # its all hardware controlled, rockbox simply detects it and shows a usb logo 22.15.42 Join MasterShadow [0] (N=d95335b8@labb.contactor.se) 22.15.48 # lol 22.16.28 # k nobby 22.22.46 Join webguest31 [0] (N=3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) 22.23.14 # I've also been using http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1236643&group_id=44306&atid=439120 (Enable multiple align tags in wps) for a while with no ill effects 22.24.18 # * nobby slaps LinusN around a bit with a large trout 22.24.54 # COMMITETH THE PATCH BEFORE THOU ART CAST INTO THE FLAMES OF HELL (h1xx forum at rockbox.org ;)) 22.25.27 # * LinusN is hunting down the volume lag bug 22.25.52 # Any progress? 22.25.59 # i seem to have found it 22.26.07 Join Toni1 [0] (N=91fec67e@labb.contactor.se) 22.26.21 # hi there 22.26.23 # Haven't had it much. Don't change volume too much 22.26.43 # nobby: ironically enough, a sleep() is the cure here :-) 22.26.52 # can anyone help me with fmradio on iriver? 22.27.04 # Toni1: what about it? 22.27.13 # Linus, from now on assume i'm allways right and commit everything i tell you ;P 22.27.23 # :-) 22.27.25 # I tried to get i2c driver running but no response from the tuner 22.27.26 # start with the multi-align patch :D 22.28.00 # Is there a GPIO pin dedicated to power up the tuner? 22.28.15 # not to my knowledge 22.28.32 # how about BUSENABLE 22.29.13 # woo, someone looking at fm 22.30.01 # yea I tried, but no luck. 22.30.24 # Toni1: hang on, i'll check busenable 22.32.38 # why hasnt austriancoder commited his radio stuff yet? he said he had it working 22.33.03 Nick prethom is now known as preglow (N=thomj@bacchus.pvv.ntnu.no) 22.33.10 # His HDD crashed :( 22.33.22 Quit thegeek (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.33.39 # goes for learning you to commit early :/ 22.33.52 # commit early commit often 22.33.56 # just like saving 22.39.04 # Well it did initiate the iaudio port so it's not all bad 22.42.05 # no, i belive the fried h140 did that, heh 22.42.17 # true 22.44.23 # Toni1: busenable is not connected at all 22.44.31 # i guess it's pulled up internally 22.44.56 # Toni1: which i2c address do you use? 22.45.35 # LinusN: I tried 0xC0 22.45.42 # that's correct 22.46.10 Join TCK [0] (I=TCK@81-86-99-69.dsl.pipex.com) 22.46.11 # LinusN: Did you check also the BUSMODE pin. Is it possible that iriver uses "3 wire mode" for communication? 22.46.17 # no 22.46.25 # busmode is grounded 22.47.07 # austriancoder had it working with i2c before his hdd/iriver crash 22.47.33 # LinusN: Yes, only question is, how? 22.48.37 # maybe his patch can help you 22.49.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.50.02 # he kept the code on his iriver??????? 22.50.11 # can anyone help me? 22.50.13 # I have got a failure 22.50.15 # With a bit of luck, he remembers. 22.50.42 # OK, I will ask him when he is online. 22.50.46 # after I started the makedbj.bat 22.50.54 # I have got this failure: http://www.shadow.sacred-portal.de/forum/style_images/BlackGrey/logo4.gif 22.50.59 # no 22.51.00 # sry 22.51.05 # http://www.shadow.sacred-portal.de/forum/style_images/BlackGrey/FuckingFehler.jpg 22.51.06 # this 22.51.22 # and i take it no one has heard any more from the musepack people? :PPP 22.51.24 # Toni1: did you take a look in his i2c patch? 22.52.26 # Moos: Yes, basically it adds "read" on i2c. I only tried "write". 22.52.42 # a ok 22.53.21 # Moos: But there is no acknowledge after writing a command. 22.54.01 # reboot time 22.54.04 Part LinusN 22.54.14 # Have to go. Bye all. 22.54.18 Part Toni1 22.56.12 Join LinusN [0] (N=linus@labb.contactor.se) 22.56.45 # good evening fellows 22.57.44 # Bagder: shalom 22.58.03 # end of vacation? 22.58.37 # Bagder: god kväll 22.59.00 # matsl: got the sim working? 22.59.25 # Bagder: nope. haven't upgraded glibc yet 22.59.29 # ok 23.01.57 # Bagder: any chance of updating since24.html? 23.03.14 # hang on 23.03.44 Quit Hansmaulwurf ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 23.05.55 # reload 23.06.03 # at 890K now 23.06.53 # Harsh.. did the release plans die out? 23.07.00 # yes 23.07.33 # we need a "release manager" 23.10.01 Join Strath [0] (I=mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a244.wi.tds.net) 23.16.26 # not a very consuming job 23.16.38 # but a very uninteresting one :) 23.18.49 # I assume it involves keeping check of developers and approving/discussing changes during a freeze, and then doing the final files, announcements etc 23.19.15 # something like that, yes 23.19.25 # the release would need to be a branch 23.19.36 # so it would probably involve some merges from the head etc 23.20.07 # at least that's how I view it 23.20.36 # How many "core developers" are there? 23.20.39 # Hrm, any problem in just holding back changes for a week or two? 23.20.50 # solex: it depends on how you define the term 23.21.04 # webguest31: yes, people don't like that 23.21.18 # devs people that is 23.21.31 # especially since the release is not meant for iriver 23.21.35 # Badger: people committing on a regular basis for the last couple of months 23.21.45 # solex: ~15 23.21.46 # They should just test their enhancements further before getting them committed! 23.21.56 # wow. 23.22.06 # But yeah, I see what you mean 23.22.31 # A branch would be less painful to everyone (but more annoying to the release manager) 23.22.39 # exactly 23.23.02 # another problem is that very few developers can test on all devices 23.23.03 # why don't people get that cvs means development and bleeding edge and not meant for the end-user 23.23.18 # if you want a stable release, use the official releases :/ 23.23.28 # Problem is that the stable release is oooold 23.23.40 # HCl: we don't do releases, that's why 23.23.42 # wow debian is getting on my last nerve today 23.23.49 # Bagder: we should do one sometime soon.. 23.23.51 # 2.4 is oooooooooold 23.23.56 # cause 2.4 is indeed too old 23.23.57 # HCl: yes 23.24.55 # Just look at the ReleaseNotes wiki page 23.24.58 # whatever happened about the feature freeze? 23.25.01 # and that's over a month out of date 23.25.14 # so we need a release manager 23.25.16 # kind of wondering that too nobby 23.25.50 # then reread what I've written here just now 23.26.02 # * HCl doesn't know what a release manager is.. 23.26.10 # someone who works on setting a release up 23.26.24 # setup a branch 23.26.28 # I'm kindof thinking that a release would come sooner with just a "dumb" freeze 23.26.32 # merge in bug fixes 23.26.37 # ah. 23.26.51 # webguest31: yes it would 23.26.51 # i thought you were talking about software or something 23.26.54 # indeed 23.27.15 # I could indeed live with a "dumb" freeze 23.27.18 # me too 23.27.27 # if it gets the job done 23.27.51 # whats a dumb freeze? 23.28.04 # Not creating a branch, just stopping commits 23.28.09 # (except for fixes) 23.28.13 # ah. 23.28.24 # i have two last things i kind of want in before the release.. 23.28.38 # a) runtime database on archos (a simple matter of adding the buffer events) 23.28.47 # b) runtime database even without a tagdatabase present 23.28.53 # a is more urgent than b 23.29.05 # i can live without b in the release, but i think a should be in the release.. 23.30.15 # well 23.30.22 # I would like a freeze yesterday 23.30.32 # so if you can do this within a few days then sure 23.30.49 # that's me 23.32.13 # do you block commit access, or just ask devs nicely to not commit? 23.32.22 # just asking 23.32.28 # How about setting a date, say a week or two in the future, freezing then, releasing two weeks later, come hell or high water 23.32.43 # That'd give a fair warning for people wanting to get something done 23.32.44 # yes, that's how we've done it in the past 23.32.59 # id like a freeze really soon, really, a release is long overdue and theres not much activity these days anyway 23.33.37 # LinusN: what do you think? 23.34.18 # i hoped to get the a-b repeat in the release 23.34.57 # any idea how far off that is? 23.34.59 # so what if we freeze on monday 22nd ? 23.35.24 # that's about two weeks away 23.35.27 # sound ok to me 23.35.45 # then let's do it this way 23.35.45 # and remote or fm for iriver? 23.35.59 # Moos: irrelevant, this is not an iriver release 23.36.19 # but it won't get in during 22nd->release 23.36.31 # ok, I'll post an announcement about it 23.37.29 Quit MasterShadow ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.39.40 # linus 23.39.59 # Informative commit messages! Informative commit messages! My kingdom for informative commit messages! 23.39.59 # if you found the solution to the volume bug, why havent you commited the fix 23.40.41 # (tags like "[iriver]" "[ondio]" etc., but I ask too much, I know) 23.41.39 # webguest31: not all commits apply to only one target 23.42.08 # webguest31: and the commit messages are not for the release notes 23.42.09 # but I agree that the commit messages can get more informative 23.42.21 # i agree too 23.42.49 # but as i said, the commit messages reflect what changes were made in the code 23.43.03 # LinusN: I know, but there could be other categories [charging] etc.. I'm proposing a system like that 23.43.10 # I'm *not* 23.44.07 # Just idly complaining a bit. 23.45.24 # ok, announcement coming up 23.45.51 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 23.46.12 Quit sao ("Leaving") 23.46.21 # Heh, most bugfixes by now are to features introduced after 2.4 23.46.35 # :-) 23.47.09 # "New poweroff handling, using the SYS_POWEROFF event, allowing plugins to save their settings before powering off." this seems like a genuine fix though 23.47.42 # I guess that falls under "development changes" 23.51.37 # yes 23.52.44 # what about commits touching iriver only files? (dsp.c, for example) 23.53.13 # for conveniance, I think we should avoid that too 23.53.41 # yeah, agreed 23.53.45 # we should use the time to focus on bug fixes 23.54.47 # iriver fixes as well? even though they wont be "visible" in the release? 23.55.31 # Might as well 23.55.34 # well, many iriver fixes are affecting the generic code portions 23.55.55 # yeah, sure, i kind of mean the iriver exclusive ones 23.56.06 # but we could use the time to fix bugs, even in the iriver only case imho 23.56.17 # yes, again agreed 23.56.39 # shouldering up on a joint effort to fix flaws 23.57.26 # stuffing this on the front page as well is probably a good idea 23.57.45 # right 23.57.48 # i think some devs actually dont read the mailing list 23.58.22 # '"Bugfix" by Langlois Florian (Chamois on IRC), we forgot to change this one.' 23.58.26 # Wonder what that did 23.58.57 Quit Febs (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- 100,000+ downloads can't be wrong")