--- Log for 26.08.105 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 5 days and 5 hours ago 00.14.24 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-121-55.VIC.netspace.net.au) 00.17.54 Quit HET2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.38.33 Quit adiamas ("Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.6/20050716]") 00.40.27 Quit preglow ("leaving") 00.57.03 Quit JoeBorn ("Leaving") 01.03.05 Join TCK [0] (i=TCK@81-86-100-151.dsl.pipex.com) 01.12.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.16.39 Join Febs [0] (n=Febs@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 01.19.08 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp13-adsl-3.ath.forthnet.gr) 01.19.59 Quit ender` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.20.27 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 01.21.49 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 01.22.09 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 02.06.21 Quit hicks (Remote closed the connection) 02.09.23 Join muesli- [0] 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(i=shawn@c-24-131-13-213.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 08.05.21 NJoin HCl [0] (i=hcl@2001:610:1908:8000:290:27ff:feca:8029) 08.05.22 Join AdNauseam [0] (n=ad@CPE0004e28e9f45-CM0012c923ac16.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 08.05.23 Join crash [0] (n=crash@a15167580.alturo-server.de) 08.05.45 Join igor47 [0] (n=igor47@temple.src.uchicago.edu) 08.05.52 NJoin dionoea [0] (n=dionoea@muscipula152.via.ecp.fr) 08.06.00 NJoin crwl [0] (n=crawlie@c15.kekkola.jyu.fi) 08.06.49 NJoin LinusN [0] (n=linus@labb.contactor.se) 08.10.41 NJoin solex [0] (n=jrschulz@d159079.adsl.hansenet.de) 08.11.01 NJoin pabs [0] (n=pabs@xor.pablotron.org) 08.15.37 # LinusN: There? 08.15.49 # yup 08.16.30 # The peakmeter code looks like we can save quite some space... 08.16.36 # good 08.16.52 # No I do almost fully understand how it works 08.16.55 # *Now 08.17.41 # There are at least 2 thing: (1) The loop for high-perf mode exists twice, once in peakmeter.c/peakmeter_draw_get_btn(), and once in wps.c 08.18.03 # (2) The peakmeter_peek() function code is included twice 08.18.52 # On a related note, it isn't exactly motivating that it looks like I'm the only one working on optimisation... 08.21.09 # ?missing start tag error ( 08.21.32 # i know how you fell 08.21.34 # feel 08.22.11 Join B4gder [0] (n=daniel@static-213-115-255-230.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se) 08.22.48 # the peakmeter_draw_get_btn() was added late, i believe it was for the triggered recording patch 08.23.15 # i was about to optimize that, but something came in between and i forgot it 08.23.52 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@tm.213.143.74.124.dc.telemach.net) 08.23.52 # besides, i/we appreciate your optimization efforts 08.24.52 # B4gder: shalom 08.25.03 # howdy ho 08.26.31 # A different thing, http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=1353.0 shouldn't be too difficult. 08.26.58 # The .talk clips are plain mp3, so they could be scheduled before the main mp3 in the playback code 08.27.07 # B4gder, I thought that you gave a very reserved answer yesterday to the guy on Mistic River who asked how often the daily builds were updated! 08.27.32 # Of course, this mode should be selectable separately from normal filename talking 08.27.36 # I reply shortly 08.28.06 # I couldn't even respond, because I knew that my sarcasm would get out of hand. 08.28.22 # hehe 08.28.33 # someone actually ASKED that?! 08.28.34 # rofl 08.28.36 # Hmm? *daily* builds! tsts 08.28.44 # is a speedup considered a bugfix? :-) 08.28.49 # http://www.misticriver.net/boards/showthread.php?t=27781 08.28.58 # amiconn: aren't the talk files preswapped? 08.28.58 # heh. 'no, it's built daily, but we only update the code it uses every few months. it just rebuilds the same thing, over and over, just in case' 08.29.00 # :) 08.29.15 # :-) 08.29.33 # LinusN: No, only the voice file contains preswapped clips 08.29.45 # preglow: it could be 08.30.00 # amiconn: ok 08.30.23 # amiconn: i thought the guy asked for a feature that could "say" the dir name at any given time 08.30.24 # preglow, LinusN: Yes, for instance when a feature freeze is in effect, and everything gets quiet :/ 08.31.10 # LinusN: I think he means saying the dirname *on* entering the dir (that may be difficult to detect) and the filename *before* playing the file 08.31.14 # i hear reports of the last file in a dir being repeated in next-dir mode 08.31.37 # amiconn: aha 08.31.53 # i.e. interspersed with the music itself, to know how the upcoming track is called w/o looking at the display 08.32.05 # "Study my music collection" 08.32.08 # i wish i had a highperf timer :/ 08.32.38 # preglow: Hmm? 08.33.00 # like a cycle counter 08.33.10 # nice for measurements 08.34.08 # There is firmware/timer.c 08.34.44 # Just make sure boost state doesn't change, as the timer doesn't adapt to it (yet) 08.35.15 # For short timer cycles (<10 ms), this requirement will stay. 08.35.50 # since the resampler almost always works on stereo streams, i'll add a special case for stereo streams 08.35.56 # should make it faster 08.38.09 # I just had an idea how to use the timer (not via timer.c though) for very precise timing with low interrupt load 08.39.00 # Hmm, maybe this has synchronisation issues... 08.44.20 # * B4gder writes a script to auto-update since24.html 08.45.08 # maybe I should also put in on rockbox.org properly 08.48.01 # since24.html? 08.49.23 # Hmm, is that the changelog? 08.50.15 # Perhaps a related thing, as I guess you wrote the cvs activity scripts as well: There is a bug in these scripts. 08.50.41 # If a file was deleted in a change, there is still the diff link 08.50.58 # If you click this diff link, the script displays an error msg 08.51.19 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@chan530-a054.otenet.gr) 08.51.41 # I think the script should just display the version number w/o link for deleted files, like it does for new files 08.51.53 # morning 08.52.47 # amiconn: yeah 09.01.43 Mode "#rockbox +o B4gder " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 09.02.44 Join einhirn [0] (i=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.03.03 # http://www.rockbox.org/since24.html 09.03.08 # updated daily 09.04.09 # goodie 09.11.18 Join linuxstb [0] (n=503a2beb@labb.contactor.se) 09.24.31 # preglow: You may be interested in this post from Josh Coalson about the differences (and similarities) between FLAC and ALAC: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=32111&view=findpost&p=279843 09.25.07 Quit linuxstb ("CGI:IRC") 09.25.16 Join linuxstb [0] (n=503a2beb@labb.contactor.se) 09.32.59 Quit linuxstb ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 09.45.54 # linuxstb: fascinating that our flac is so slow when alac is supposed to be slower 09.49.15 # moin 09.50.10 # B4gder: wow, what a changelog! 09.50.49 # well, those are all commits since previous release 09.52.07 # there's been quite some activity since 09.52.17 # obviously :) 09.57.24 Join kurzhaarrocker [0] (n=Phil@p50908EE2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 09.58.41 # amiconn: I think we wanted to drop the distinction betwen high performance / energy saving peak meter. Only the high performance mode should survive. 09.59.31 # Originally I intended to replace the wps peak meter call so that it uses the peak_meter function to aquire button presses, too. I don't remember why I didn't do that. 10.00.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.00.56 # i think it's a pretty silly option myself 10.01.07 # Probably I didn't want to merge the peak meter patch with wps optimizations 10.04.48 # -peak meter patch + triggered recording patch 10.06.43 # preglow: it was not a silly option when we introduced it 10.09.23 # Is it allowed to remove features during feature freeze? :) 10.09.45 # absolutely, if it saves code space 10.12.52 # kurzhaarrocker: I'll look into peakmeter more closely this evening, then do my optimisation magic ;) 10.13.37 # Dropping energy save mode is absolutely okay imho, however, the little-energy-saving-mode that is currently used by recording should be used anywhere 10.13.47 # (aka peakmeter_draw_get_btn()) 10.15.06 # One thing to keep in mind in case you want to use the peakmeter_draw_get_btn() in wps: you can define a wps without a peak meter ... ;) 10.20.15 Join HET2 [0] (n=diman@chello080108051101.9.11.vie.surfer.at) 10.22.44 # wow, what a status bug 10.22.49 # must've been there forever 10.22.52 # yup 10.23.15 # took me some time to figure out why his fix worked 10.25.53 # * B4gder appoints Antonius as bugfixer of the day 10.26.21 # kurzhaarrocker: I know 10.27.41 # kurzhaarrocker: any tips on learning bass? i got one 10.28.21 # If you're righthanded you should operate the neck of the bass with the left hand and pluck the strings with the right hand 10.28.39 # heh :p 10.28.52 # i play guitar already, remember? i suppose not 10.30.03 # Well then there's not much to say about playing bass. Avoid chords :). 10.30.14 # hah 10.30.22 # thanks :p 10.32.22 # * kurzhaarrocker detects that somehwen a sleep instruction sneaked into peakmeter_draw_get_btn 10.32.26 # I dont like that 10.32.47 # i oughtta execute a sleep instruction here myself 10.32.55 # When there is a peak meter displayed it should read the peak meter as often as possible. 10.33.27 # even if that throttles and hogs the processor? 10.33.54 # kurzhaarrocker: The sleep(1) is absoultely necessary, see the commit msg of that! 10.34.07 # * kurzhaarrocker searches the comment 10.36.22 # hmpf. ok, recording is more important then displaying the peak meter :( 10.37.27 # This took me quite some time to track down, believe me... 10.38.25 # The nature of the problem suggests that it was difficult to track. 10.38.46 # And there were really no other cpu hoggers that could be disabled? 10.39.20 # no 10.39.28 # Or was it that a single loop of the peak meter took to long? 10.39.30 # This code was *the* CPU hogger 10.40.16 # :) That was the intension: "Use whatever you can get to peek the meter!" 10.40.46 # you always put a delay in a loop 10.40.50 # of some kind or another 10.40.56 # or it throttles the processor 10.41.09 # it could use 100% CPU to do nothing 10.41.20 # and just a short usleep takes it down to reasonable 10.41.46 # kurzhaarrocker: I know the intention, but this also draws the power if other code would need it badly, like the cluster search 10.42.32 # The sleep(1) brings it down to ~50% CPU load, which is just enough to let the search finish and the buffer flush done before the buffer wraps 10.43.30 # Unfortunately the rockbox kernel has no notion of thread priorities 10.43.52 # Otherwise we could run the peakmeter peek code in a thread with idle priority 10.44.06 Join DangerousDan [0] (n=Miranda@newtpulsifer.campus.luth.se) 10.44.30 # Once apon a time I suggested to disable the peak meter completely when other threads need more cpu power. 10.45.11 # The problem is how to detect this situation 10.45.29 # and to detect it in time 10.46.17 # The task that needs the cpu power simply could set a flag that indicates the peak meter not to hog the cpu. 10.51.44 # All tasks that don't need power call sleep(), and that sets a flag in threads.c 10.52.46 # However, we would need to run the peakmeter peek code in a separate thread anyway to make use of either method of indication 10.53.04 # Ah, no 10.53.29 # The saving runs in the mpeg thread, and peakmeter in main thread, so they already are different... 10.54.30 # We could add a function to htread.c: 10.55.03 # int threads_running(void) 10.55.07 # { 10.55.48 # return num_threads - num_sleepers(); 10.55.50 # } 10.56.24 # erm, return num_threads - num_sleepers; 10.57.07 # Then you could check in the peakmeter code: if (threads_running() == 1) hog_cpu(); else be_nice(); 10.57.29 # nice idea 10.57.48 # The one running thread is always the one doing the request, so the sleepers must be all others... 10.57.49 # indeed 10.58.46 Join pilot000 [0] (n=c31ce021@labb.contactor.se) 10.59.28 # * kurzhaarrocker wants to kick somone for designing a hardware peak meter that doesn't detect peaks. 11.01.30 Join zezayer [0] (n=jake@87.81.166.52) 11.02.36 # kurzhaarrocker: Hmm? 11.03.02 # Afaik the MAS datasheet says the peak registers accumulate the peak value until being read 11.03.34 # The only thing they don't do automatically is detect clips, and that is why we need to read in quick succession 11.03.34 # well, it doesn't 11.04.52 # If it worked as it claims to increasing the peak reads / time couldn't make the detection of peaks more precise. 11.05.27 # In the energy saving mode many peaks remain undetected. 11.26.18 Join linuxstb [0] (n=503a2beb@labb.contactor.se) 11.26.24 # If it works like it claims reading more often still makes the detection of clips more precise 11.26.55 # yes. 11.30.57 # preglow: I'm thinking that ALAC's apparent out-performance of FLAC may be due to the encoder - iTunes doesn't give you any configuration options, so maybe it encodes in a "decode-friendly" way by default. 11.32.34 # But in fact we really can't detect clips on the archos. 11.32.48 # Yet in high performance mode the peak meter is nearly usable. 11.32.59 # If we reduce the peak reads to the display frame rate it doesn't really matter wether we feed the display with random values or the peek register. 11.37.39 Quit DangerousDan ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 11.38.09 Quit kurzhaarrocker (Remote closed the connection) 11.42.03 # Hmm, it seems that it was pure imagination that the peak registers cumulate until read. I can't find that in the datasheet... 11.42.37 # And: it is called "quasi-peak", so don't complain it doesn't deliver peak values ;) 11.43.13 Quit linuxstb ("CGI:IRC") 11.43.28 Join linuxstb [0] (n=503a2beb@labb.contactor.se) 11.45.46 Quit dionoea (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.55.47 Join hicks [0] (n=hicks@zeus.mups.co.uk) 11.56.16 # linuxstb: perhaps, but even the decode frienly flac settings are a bit heavy for us 11.56.39 Quit linuxstb ("CGI:IRC") 11.58.27 # it's only an optimization issue, isn't it? 11.58.48 # at least on an ordinary PC, FLAC decodes several times faster than for example Ogg Vorbis 11.58.56 # hmm 11.59.05 # and encodes too 11.59.08 # how hard would it be to add thread priorities to the scheduler? 11.59.14 # crwl: yes, of course 12.00.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.16.59 Part zezayer 12.30.13 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m29.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 12.32.51 Quit AdNauseam (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.33.27 Quit ashridah (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.35.35 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-123-22.VIC.netspace.net.au) 12.36.38 Join Psy-Dead [0] (n=nobby@cpc1-bele3-3-1-cust167.belf.cable.ntl.com) 12.53.27 Join webguest45 [0] (n=3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) 12.54.09 # If someone's looking at the messed up ID3 database - try using it with voice set to spell files and folders. Half the folders will be "j". 13.00.01 # HCl: databox.c should return PLUGIN_USB_CONNECTED instead of PLUGIN_OK after having written the file, to force a file-view refresh 13.01.13 # HCl: Same holds for searchengine, I presume 13.01.27 Quit webguest45 ("CGI:IRC") 13.25.34 Join Aramil [0] (n=tony@chan530-a054.otenet.gr) 13.33.57 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.35.04 Join DangerousDan [0] (n=Miranda@newtpulsifer.campus.luth.se) 13.56.54 Join AdNauseam [0] (n=ad@CPE0004e28e9f45-CM0012c923ac16.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 13.58.02 Join dionoea [0] (n=dionoea@muscipula152.via.ecp.fr) 14.00.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.02.17 Part LinusN 14.05.37 Join XMaster-ShadowX [0] (n=KdTMaste@pD9533335.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.07.32 Nick phaedrus96 is now known as phaedrus961 (n=Unknown@p54AE390B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.16.55 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@chan530-a054.otenet.gr) 14.25.55 Join hshah [0] (n=acd468fc@labb.contactor.se) 14.25.56 Quit pilot000 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 14.26.30 # URGET - iRiver iSkin belt clip needed in the UK - any sellers? 14.26.36 Part XMaster-ShadowX 14.32.12 Quit hshah ("CGI:IRC") 14.32.12 Join vik [0] (n=vik@203-217-40-48.perm.iinet.net.au) 14.32.30 Quit HCl (brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.32.30 NSplit brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 14.32.30 Quit Rob- (brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.32.30 Quit phaedrus961 (brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.32.30 Quit Asku (brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.32.30 Quit edx (brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.32.33 NHeal brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 14.32.33 NJoin edx [0] (i=edx@p54A8DA8E.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.32.40 Join Asku [0] (n=aksu@62.121.39.180) 14.32.49 NJoin HCl [0] (i=hcl@2001:610:1908:8000:290:27ff:feca:8029) 14.33.08 NJoin phaedrus961 [0] (n=Unknown@p54AE390B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.34.57 Quit Aramil (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.44.09 # Anyone awake? 14.49.24 # nope 14.51.42 # d'oh 14.53.10 Join cYmen_ [0] (n=cymen@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 14.56.03 # i am 14.57.25 # not really sure what to say - I want to get involved in porting to iRiver H3x0 14.58.16 # well, do you code? 15.00.23 # yep 15.01.22 # have done a bit of everything, but most relevant are C and a bit of assembly on embedded systems (8051 based) 15.01.35 # well, there's not much h300 specific stuff you can do at the moment, until the bootloader comes 15.01.48 # but most h100 based stuff will also be used on h300 15.01.59 # so you might want to help out on h1x0 currently 15.02.24 # Is there much I can do without an actual box? 15.03.02 # depends on what you're working on 15.03.09 # the simulators run much of the code in question 15.03.18 # as long as its not hardware dependant 15.03.59 # didn't realise there were simulators - might have closer look at the site 15.04.12 # do so 15.04.40 # the sims compile the very same (non-hardware specific) code that we use on the devices, but use a graphical windows/x11 display instead 15.05.10 # don't have much experience with them myself, since my code has mostly been hardware specific, but other people know more 15.05.19 Quit Febs (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 15.09.18 # will gcc3.3.5 work? wiki says to use 3.3.4, but I fear dependency hell if I try to mess with debian too much 15.10.07 # vik: For the simulators you can use any version you like (should be >= 3.3.1 though) 15.10.32 # cool 15.10.48 # The wiki recommendations should be more clear here 15.11.08 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@labb.contactor.se) 15.11.18 # "Use sh-elf.gcc 3.3.x for SH1 (archos), for code size considerations" 15.11.52 # "Use m68k-elf-gcc for coldfire (iriver). 3.3.x has problems with some parts of the code, and 4.0.x won't work yet" 15.12.09 # "Use any gcc >= 3.3.x for the simulators" 15.14.49 # Hmpf, m68k-elf-gcc 3.4.x of course 15.15.02 # and s/any/native/ for simulators 15.17.38 # drat - can't find cross-compiler for m68k in ubuntu. 15.18.13 # then build it 15.18.35 # build it into a local directory ,and add local_directory/bin to the path :) 15.19.24 # yes, yes, just trying to do things the Debian Way(TM) 15.20.25 # then make a m68-elf debian package :-) 15.21.37 # just found an unofficial rep. phew. 15.23.37 # it's really easy to build it yourself, should the need arise 15.23.56 # I would actually prefer to build it myself 15.25.30 # we could write up a script that does the job 15.25.47 # man, how i hate duplicating code to make it more efficient.. 15.26.14 # sne - getting late, and I don't think I could stay awake building a compiler right now. 15.26.37 # On linux it should take less than 30 minutes on a decent box 15.27.40 # Well, depends what you mean by decent box. And I'll be asleep in 30 mins 15.28.04 # Where do I get the coldfire simulator from? 15.28.17 # is it the one from slicer.ca ? 15.28.36 # there is none 15.28.49 # afaik 15.29.08 # there is one, it just doesn't take our particular coldfire 15.29.09 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 15.29.13 # aha 15.29.17 # hmm 15.29.26 # i don't think updating it to do so should too large a job 15.29.35 # right, now that you mention it it comes back to me 15.30.11 Join Aramil [0] (n=tony@chan530-a054.otenet.gr) 15.31.23 Join [1]Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m29.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 15.31.23 Quit Moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.31.27 Nick [1]Moos is now known as Moos (i=DrMoos@m29.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 15.39.16 Join webguest68 [0] (n=d5ee4cfb@labb.contactor.se) 15.39.41 # does the iriver support executing code from RAM? 15.39.53 Quit cYmen_ ("->screen") 15.39.58 Join cYmen_ [0] (n=cymen@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 15.41.09 # yes 15.41.12 # that's that we do 15.43.03 # so the bootloader lives in flash, then just loads the code into RAM, then executes from there? 15.43.44 # yes 15.46.16 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.53.39 Join t0mas [0] (n=Tomas@ip503c08d1.speed.planet.nl) 15.53.52 # * t0mas is back :) 15.54.09 # at last! 15.54.32 # jup 15.54.37 # long trip 15.54.41 # pretty tired... 15.54.46 # but I'm home :) 16.00.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.13.35 Join webguest48 [0] (n=51429e1d@labb.contactor.se) 16.13.56 # Hello all 16.14.10 # hi 16.14.29 # I just checking the new french translations 16.15.12 # there are few words not good to translate, like for example ReplayGain 16.15.24 # Crossfader... 16.15.34 # then just leave em in english? 16.15.40 # this words are international 16.15.43 # ReplayGain is a term... 16.15.50 # yes 16.15.58 # and for Crossfader you can check some french mp3 players 16.16.03 # now is it translated with the last build 16.16.06 # maybe there is a good local word? 16.16.35 # ReplayGain=ReplayGain for all 16.16.51 # Crossfader=Crossfader too 16.17.08 # i don't understand why translate it 16.17.57 # I know Rasher want that all langages will be completed,... 16.18.14 # but not all words please Rasher if you read the logs 16.18.43 # I really don't believe the french people like me will love this translations :( 16.18.56 # why not? 16.19.05 # why not put ReplayGain in the french file? 16.19.14 # you don't _have to_ translate the words 16.19.24 # using the same word is fine 16.19.33 # if that is what your language uses 16.19.47 # yes 16.20.02 # but few words are untranslatable 16.20.11 # then don't translate them 16.20.17 # they might be translatable for others 16.20.21 # it's just the choice of the translator dev 16.20.43 # I point Manuel for this :) 16.20.46 # its always the choice of the person doing the translation, yes 16.20.55 # no matter what words 16.21.04 # but you're free to suggest changes 16.21.24 # not consensus with french users :) 16.22.12 # imho, you should translate it if it there is a good word for it 16.22.32 # ReplayGain is not a common word, it's more of a name or a trademark 16.22.41 # not to be translated 16.23.12 # just translated by Rasher 16.23.13 # yes, that word is probably best untouched in most languages 16.23.14 # check the last buikd 16.23.28 # well, we must leave that up to the translators 16.23.33 # not by Rsher himself 16.23.37 # but commited 16.23.38 # we cannot tell how all languages should be spoken 16.23.52 # rasher is the language police 16.23.53 # yes I understand this 16.23.54 # I trust him 16.24.08 # so what are you saying? 16.24.13 # but like Linus said RG is trademark 16.24.17 # "fréquence variable" is plain wrong imho 16.24.26 # webguest48: so... ? 16.24.27 # yes 16.24.34 # it's not the frequency, it's the bit rate 16.24.42 # silly french people 16.25.17 # now try to google for "Type d'adaption de volume" 16.25.27 # you won't find ReplayGain, that's for sure 16.25.27 # "type d'adaptation du volume" for RG :( 16.25.34 # :) 16.25.54 # webguest48: I still suggest that you provide fixes and corrections, possible with the cooperation of the person who did the french stuff most recently 16.26.02 # translating stuff like that is just asking for problems 16.26.02 # hm 16.26.08 # can I hack at the dutch one too? 16.26.14 # please do 16.26.15 # it's really stupid at some points 16.26.18 # "over translated" 16.26.31 # well, the swedish one takes the prize anyway :-) 16.26.35 # things we use the english names for in every days life... are translated 16.27.08 # * t0mas uses the english version, just because the dutch version is un-usable 16.27.38 Quit ashridah ("sleep") 16.27.40 Quit Sucka (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.27.40 # I'll probably don't use french langage now, i'll back to english :( 16.27.52 # I'd say all words where a sufficiently good translation exists should be translated 16.27.58 # amiconn: agreed 16.28.05 # yeps 16.28.05 # and replaygain isn't one of them 16.28.07 # amiconn, LinusN: you're not dutch 16.28.17 # i'm not? 16.28.18 # hehe 16.28.20 # we use all english words for tech-stuff 16.28.20 # I've translated both replaygain and crossfade into german 16.28.22 # ik ben moe 16.28.26 # lol 16.28.28 # amiconn: that is a good way not in french too now 16.28.38 # t0mas: that almost right? 16.28.48 # it is right for "I'm tired" 16.28.56 # very useful phrase 16.28.59 # ghehe 16.29.01 # the only one I know in dutch 16.29.03 # Ik hou van jou 16.29.07 # way better 16.29.11 # "I love you" 16.29.13 # too hard ;-) 16.29.23 # ghehe 16.29.33 # Waar kan ik hash kopen? 16.29.41 # that's dutch for beginners from the USA :P 16.29.47 # "Wheren can I buy hash?" 16.29.50 # *where 16.29.56 # I could actually understand it 16.30.04 # amiconn: how did you translate replaygain? 16.30.13 # dutch is like a weird german+scandinavian mix 16.30.15 # but we don't use dutch words for a lot of things 16.30.24 # webguest48: Afaik the French are especially keen to find french words... 16.30.49 # ghehe... yes... and french have (like the german) a translation for every word 16.30.58 # but few words are better in english, are untranslatable 16.31.05 # but in dutch we don't have (or at least don't use) the dutch words for tech stuff 16.31.17 # ReplayGain is a nice example 16.31.18 # Lynx_: Lautstärkeanpassung 16.31.21 # there's always a personal preference too when it comes to translations 16.31.23 # amiconn: the french have a government institue that finds french words for new stuff. 16.31.44 # lol 16.31.46 # they have that? 16.31.48 # damn... 16.31.49 # amiconn: hehe, twice as long but ok i guess :) 16.31.49 # Lautstärkeanpassung gave ReplayGain as the second hit in google (by sheer luck, but anyway) 16.32.15 # Crossfade 16.32.23 # Überblenden 16.32.30 # Geluidsovergang 16.32.37 # t0mas: yes, and as far as i know french radio stations can only play so many english titels, there's a percentage set 16.32.38 # and that doesn't totally cover it 16.32.58 # Crossfade is the word to use... 16.33.07 # yes really 16.33.13 Quit dionoea (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.33.16 # and there are more like these 16.33.18 # in all langages :) 16.33.25 # * t0mas will use it in dutch for a few days 16.33.30 # oh dionoea .fr 16.33.35 # and keep a note about what translations are really to stupid 16.33.36 # t0mas: I don't know about the situation in the Nederlands, but in Germany there is quite a percentage of peopel *not* knowing Englsih 16.33.37 # and change them 16.33.41 # *people 16.33.46 Join dionoea [0] (n=dionoea@muscipula152.via.ecp.fr) 16.33.55 # amiconn: that's funny 16.33.59 # amiconn: almost everybody here can read basic english 16.34.06 # funny, as in odd (for me) 16.34.06 # Crossfader is musical word 16.34.19 # Replaygain is one concept 16.34.22 # ... 16.34.35 # amiconn: funny btw how you write netherlands 16.34.41 # i guess pretty much all swedes below 50 know english reasonably well 16.34.44 # Nederlands = dutch for the dutch language 16.34.56 # Nederland = dutch for the Netherlands 16.35.15 # t0mas: Yes I discovered my funny "mistake" 16.35.20 # time to go, bye all and thanks for heared me 16.35.24 # Should be Netherlands in Englsih 16.35.31 Quit webguest48 ("CGI:IRC") 16.36.16 # amiconn: jup, but if you dropped the s, you would have done it right :) 16.36.19 # in dutch 16.37.15 # amiconn: when I was in the Netherlands a few months ago, just about everyone spoke English. Had to go to week little farming towns to find people who didn't. I'd hazard a guess that everyone in the Netherlands who owns a jukebox would speak Engels. 16.37.24 # LinusN, t0mas: There is a theory that the readiness to learn a foreign language is reciprocal to the number of people speaking the same mother tongue 16.37.36 # jup 16.37.54 # german is spoken at far more places than dutch 16.37.55 # ...and there are certainly more people in the world speaking French or German than Dutch or Danish... 16.38.05 # yup 16.38.11 # almost nobody outside the dutch kindom (that's including some colonies) speaks dutch 16.38.46 # vik: where have you been? 16.38.48 # west? 16.39.09 # Cycled from amsterdam to Germany. 16.39.14 # ah ok 16.39.17 # amiconn: where else in the world do they speak german? 16.39.26 # LinusN: loads of people learn it 16.39.28 # me for example 16.39.42 # all dutch people < 30 speak a little germa 16.39.44 # Germany (~80 million), Austria and part of Switzerland 16.39.45 # *german 16.39.47 # yes, but i'm talking mother toungue 16.40.00 # afrikaans is next to dutch, and indonesian has picked up chunks of it 16.40.02 # ah yes 16.40.04 # ...and a small part of Italy 16.40.08 # ah 16.40.20 # vik: I can read and understand afrikaans... just because they use the same words 16.40.23 # gotta run 16.40.25 # cu around 16.40.28 # bye 16.40.40 Part LinusN 16.40.45 # vik: but their grammar is different... so I can write it myself 16.44.06 # t0mas: yes -but grammar is of little use in a jukebox. 16.44.35 # indeed 16.44.39 # Out of interest, where is everyone? 16.44.57 # on the moon 16.44.58 # I'm in Australia, so it's about bedtime (well, past it in fact) for me 16.45.07 # Sweden 16.45.16 # 16:45 here 16.45.28 # soon time to leave work 16.45.31 # The Netherlands, 16:45 here too 16.45.40 # Psy-Dead: What language u speak there? 16.45.46 # (Gouda... cheese city) 16.46.01 # Germany, 16:46 16.46.03 # i speak Gouda :p 16.46.10 # Mmmmm.... cheese.... 16.46.25 # heh 16.47.00 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@chan530-a054.otenet.gr) 16.47.04 # ciao 16.47.11 Quit vik ("Leaving") 16.47.16 Quit Psy-Dead ("me too") 16.56.31 Join stamppot [0] (n=stamppot@cc516682-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) 17.00.54 # time to run! 17.00.55 Quit B4gder ("Lämnar") 17.01.45 Quit Ismo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.01.45 Quit dionoea (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.02.28 Quit Aramil (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17.12.57 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.19.44 Quit edx () 17.33.46 Join edx [0] (i=edx@p54A8DA8E.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.36.31 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@chan530-a040.otenet.gr) 17.37.19 Quit edx (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.40.05 Join edx [0] (i=edx@p54A8DA8E.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.46.30 Join muesli- [0] (i=muesli_t@Bc122.b.pppool.de) 17.46.50 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@p54BD7408.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.54.17 Quit edx (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.55.00 Quit amiconn (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 17.55.01 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@p54BD7408.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.00.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.09.38 # i still need a good translation for 'fade' :/ 18.22.27 Join Ismo [0] (i=laitinei@huippu.net) 18.26.37 # preglow: what language 18.26.43 # oh .no 18.26.45 # :/ 18.27.30 # damn 18.27.37 # that is indeed hard preglow 18.28.41 Quit muesli- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.30.14 # "svinne" 18.30.17 # fucking sucks 18.30.23 # yes, but that sucks :P 18.30.26 # indeed 18.30.38 # imho fade would be much better 18.30.42 # that's what i use 18.30.45 # I doubt anyone would understand "svinne" 18.30.50 # or 18.30.55 # fade would be more understood 18.31.17 # why is the hebrew patch called 'BiDi', btw? hebrew is only written from right to left, no? 18.32.21 Join muesli- [0] (i=muesli_t@Bbc76.b.pppool.de) 18.32.38 # and translating 'beep' with 'pip' sounds really... no 18.32.39 # "tone ut/inn" 18.33.14 # hehe 18.33.15 Join dpassen1 [0] (n=dpassen1@resnet-233-61.resnet.umbc.edu) 18.33.27 # I dont see why anyone would want it in norwegian anyway;) 18.47.22 Quit muesli- (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.53.41 Quit Ismo (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 19.05.43 Nick Lynx_ is now known as Lynx_awy (n=lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 19.10.37 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 19.19.40 # preglow: The hebrew/arabic support is called BiDi, because it adds bidirectional text output support, so that hebrew/arabic parts of a string are printed rtl, while latin parts are printed ltr 19.23.23 Quit HET2 ("This computer has gone to sleep") 19.28.12 Join webguest30 [0] (n=53470d19@labb.contactor.se) 19.28.24 Join solex_ [0] (n=jrschulz@c196227.adsl.hansenet.de) 19.30.56 Quit webguest30 (Client Quit) 19.31.05 Join webguest30 [0] (n=53470d19@labb.contactor.se) 19.37.07 # amiconn: ahh 19.39.29 Join RockboxLover [0] (n=51429e1d@labb.contactor.se) 19.39.38 # Hello guys 19.39.50 # a quick question please 19.40.30 # shoot 19.40.33 Join QT_ [0] (i=as@madwifi/users/area51) 19.42.14 # I want to change my WPS screen and i see the WPS gallery and coding with the bmp file, how I use it? need to put it with .wps files in rockbox dir? 19.42.59 # I see the code with this bmp, what I need to do please for use it? 19.43.50 # anyone please? 19.44.54 # how worked this WPS screen with bmp? 19.45.15 Quit solex (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.46.24 # dont know cause i have a h340 19.47.36 # anyone here use WPS screen with pictures? 19.48.03 # :( 19.48.04 Join TCK- [0] (i=TCK@81-86-208-28.dsl.pipex.com) 19.48.54 # hi 19.49.08 # Hello 19.51.44 Quit QT (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.54.07 # I don't find in Rockbox.org, how to use bitmap display, anyone can help me please, I've got the code and the bitmap, what I need for this? 19.55.05 Quit webguest30 ("CGI:IRC") 19.55.12 # my WPS screen is a bit obsolete :) 19.56.09 # maybe t0mas(the creator), if he's free ? 19.56.15 # hm? 19.56.19 # * t0mas wakes up 19.56.29 # good morning 19.56.33 # :) 19.56.33 # RockboxLover: what do you want? 19.56.37 # bmp in wps? 19.56.42 # or just showing a bmp? 19.56.54 # yes please in WPS 19.57.06 # I choose one in mistic forum 19.57.13 # ah ok 19.57.21 # you put the .bmp files in the .rockbox folder 19.57.28 # ok 19.57.29 # and then you add a tag to the wps file to show them 19.57.36 # ok 19.57.41 # or you use the wps that came with the images 19.58.48 # I pvmsg you for don't polute the topic 19.59.40 # no, please continue 19.59.53 # maybe someone has the same problem, and he/she serches the logs for a solution 20.00.05 # can you give me a link to the wps you want to use? 20.00.15 # yes you're right 20.00.22 # let me 2 sec 20.00.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.02.01 # www.misticriver.net/boards/showthread.php?t=26193 20.02.26 # there are few WPS 20.03.20 # i need to put the 2 files in rockbox dir? 20.03.37 # yes 20.04.28 # the .bmp, and the .wps 20.04.33 # and then select the .wps file 20.04.39 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.04.47 # i've got few wps code in my dir, is it problem need to delet others? 20.05.03 # No 20.05.16 # Rockbox remembers the last loaded .wps 20.05.22 # ok thanks i'm trying 20.12.46 # yes very thanks that works 20.13.24 # bye all 20.13.30 Quit RockboxLover ("CGI:IRC") 20.18.51 # ghehe 20.19.00 # just added 2734 songs to a playlist 20.19.06 # and rockbox hasn't crashed :) 20.24.23 Join solex [0] (n=jrschulz@d096146.adsl.hansenet.de) 20.29.50 Join muesli- [0] (i=muesli_t@Bbcb5.b.pppool.de) 20.30.50 Quit solex_ (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 20.30.56 # re 20.32.15 # Hmm, is anybody currently working with wps remote support for iriver? I just would like to know if i have time to take a look at that 20.32.47 # i wish somebody does 20.32.53 # :) 20.32.56 # ;-) 20.33.01 # hehe 20.33.44 # afaik there's only xaviers build..but dunno..am not involved in developing stuff 20.35.51 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.36.10 Join _aLEX [0] (i=Alexandr@mut38-2-82-67-66-128.fbx.proxad.net) 20.36.12 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s201a.studby.ntnu.no) 20.37.13 Join zezayer [0] (n=jake@87.81.166.52) 20.38.12 Join QT [0] (i=as@madwifi/users/area51) 20.41.45 Quit QT_ (Read error: 148 (No route to host)) 20.43.11 Quit solex (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 20.46.14 Join TCK [0] (i=TCK@81-86-102-78.dsl.pipex.com) 20.54.06 Quit tvelocity ("Leaving") 20.58.28 Join Coldtoast [0] (n=edan@ppp110-114.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net) 20.58.31 # Hmm, i think true custom wps for remote could be enabled with little code changes 20.58.53 # hey Slasher 20.58.54 # that would allow both displays to have a different wps 20.58.56 # hi :) 20.59.06 # how's the military going? 20.59.39 # hehe, good :) today i had to reorganize the operator & server rooms :) 20.59.59 # hehe. well, that sounds kinda fun 21.00.18 # i trashed probably a hundreds of old cds and manuals 21.00.19 # :) 21.00.21 # :D 21.00.40 # that DOES sound like fun 21.00.46 # hehe :) 21.02.00 Quit phaedrus961 (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 21.04.25 Quit TCK- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.04.52 # then i couldn't find out where i should have put all old electronic stuff (for example thick&thin -ethernet cards) so I completely filled a couple of trash bins i could locate from computer rooms ;) 21.06.29 Join QT_ [0] (i=as@madwifi/users/area51) 21.08.08 Quit muesli- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.13.02 # what's the diff between Kubuntu and Ubuntu? 21.14.03 # kubuntu uses kde, Ubuntu uses gnome 21.14.35 # adn that's it? 21.14.43 # i would prefer kde 21.14.54 # seems odd to have 2 separate distros JUST for that one difference 21.14.57 # kde and gnome are completely different window managers (desktop environments) 21.15.41 Join phaedrus961 [0] (n=Unknown@p54AE390B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.17.56 Quit QT (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.18.32 Join webguest54 [0] (n=3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) 21.18.51 # Coldtoast: I think a more fitting term would be "built around" gnome and kde respectively 21.18.59 # Hence the "need" for a seperate distro 21.19.10 # ok 21.19.24 # I guess that keeps each one to a single CD somewhat 21.19.33 # you can install KDE in ubuntu, gnome in kubuntu throught apt 21.19.38 # That too. 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