--- Log for 08.09.105 Server: herbert.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 7 days and 17 hours ago 00.00.03 # strike that "amiconn" 00.00.05 # lol 00.00.18 # :) 00.00.24 # I blame tab-completion. 00.00.24 # http://www.computerbase.de/lexikon/Liste_der_ID3v1-Genres confirms it 00.00.45 # damn 00.00.53 # that's why i didn't seen crossover too 00.00.55 # see* 00.01.15 # and drumnbass 00.01.21 # all my favorite genres 00.01.25 # i guess i'm doomed 00.01.52 # Well I assume adding them to Rockbox is a good idea 00.01.58 # of course 00.01.59 # :) 00.02.23 # i could have done it 00.02.27 # :( 00.02.34 Join stripwax_ [0] (n=stripwax@i-83-67-214-206.freedom2surf.net) 00.02.51 Nick Sucka`away is now known as Sucka (n=NNSCRIPT@81.156.159.120) 00.02.52 # evning 00.03.17 # hey stripwax 00.04.21 # Hm, looks like the >125 ones were added within the last few years 00.04.36 # as if these genres didn't exist in 2k2 00.04.44 # well probably 00.05.12 # Some php I wrote (don't ask why I was using php for id3 parsing) has the same list as Rockbox 00.05.17 # i agree genres like "christian gangsta" sound really 21st century, but drum & bass is old as shit 00.05.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.05.52 # experiencing a bit of weirdness with latest daily build w.r.t Move To Next Folder (again). Seems I now get a popup saying "Codec Error" when it switches from the end of the last track in the folder to the first track in the next folder. My folders contain all oggs. 00.06.18 # Not sure whether the problem is caused by the change to Move To Next Folder or by the macsr changes 00.06.55 # at least Move To Next Folder now works ;-) (the Codec Error popup doesn't hamper playback, it carries on anyway) 00.08.35 # I also got a weird message, "Dir List Is Full" or somesuch, earlier today before Rockbox completely hung. Can't find a way to reproduce that tho.. 00.09.26 # this is a folder limitation 00.09.29 # What's the status of the code freeze? 00.09.55 # It'll be a while 00.09.58 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.10.18 # I mean, it's still frozen (right?). So cvs commits are exclusively for Archos bugfixes? 00.10.45 # Any bugfixes 00.11.34 # Oh, ok. I might take a look at getting Move To Next Folder do the right thing at the end of the last track of the last folder ... 00.11.35 # stripwax: for the dir list full: go to "General Settings" "System " Limits" 00.11.48 # and increase the limits 00.11.52 # pill - I've ruled that out because I can't reproduce the problem I saw this morning.. 00.12.06 # k 00.12.37 Quit Sucka ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") 00.12.47 Join Sucka [0] (n=NNSCRIPT@host81-156-159-120.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) 00.12.57 # Oh, here's another one: I remember seeing a cvs log saying that Inverse Bar was now the default selector- but today I put on a new build, did a Reset Settings, and the selector is that little arrow. Did I imagine the default changing to Inverse Bar? 00.13.02 # rasher: so basically all there is to do is add the genres > 147 to the genres array? 00.13.10 # > 125 00.18.48 # No idea if that'll do it 00.19.01 # Try it? 00.19.28 # Looks like it will work 00.21.00 # Should be as simple as that. The function returning the genre gets the limit via sizeof(genres)/sizeof(char*) 00.21.51 # well i never committed anything and to be honest i dont know what i need to do to do it properly 00.22.03 # i'd like to though 00.22.44 # Do you have access? 00.22.50 # no 00.23.00 # as of now, i'm just a user 00.24.00 Join Mat [0] (n=51429e3c@labb.contactor.se) 00.24.14 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 00.24.25 Join webguest03 [0] (n=d5ee402e@labb.contactor.se) 00.25.29 # Ah, well.. can't change that now 00.26.27 # well, if i can be of any use, i'd love to contribute 00.27.05 # Bagder, Linus and Zagor gives CVS access :) 00.27.24 # the trium vira :) 00.27.27 # heh 00.27.49 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 00.28.25 # rasher: do you see my pvmsg? 00.28.34 # usually it works such that you submit a few patches, and one of them gets fed up with applying them and give you write-access 00.28.46 # Mat: Didn't get one.. Freenode is probably blocking it 00.28.56 # stripwax_: i sincerely doubt the macsr changes enter into it 00.29.21 # preglow cool. must be the Move To Next Folder logic then. which has been broken for a while now? 00.29.22 Join webguest40 [0] (n=55d212f3@labb.contactor.se) 00.29.31 # evening 00.29.37 # Mat: You need to be registred and identified with nickserv to be able to privmsg. 00.30.02 # hey ami are you around? 00.30.02 Quit Mat ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.30.19 # stripwax_: the only error i think macsr errors could result in, are glitchy audio 00.30.25 # cant imagine why it would give a codec error 00.30.29 Join Mat [0] (n=51429e3c@labb.contactor.se) 00.32.14 Join edx [0] (i=edx@p54A8679E.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.32.20 # preglow - I didn't check out your changes so I don't know how much of the code was moved around. Move To Next Folder looks like the most likely candidate since it wasn't working before the change and it's not working (in a different way) after the change 00.32.26 Quit Mat (Client Quit) 00.33.21 Join Mathieu1 [0] (n=51429e3c@labb.contactor.se) 00.35.14 # Heh.. "drivers/fat.c: In function `fat_time': drivers/fat.c:1069: error: `YEAR' undeclared (first use in this function)" 00.35.18 # what is the command for freenoode registration please I forget 00.35.19 # looks like someone needs to reconfigure 00.35.39 # rasher - make clean? 00.35.51 # /msg nickserv register password 00.35.59 # stripwax_: or that 00.35.59 # thanks 00.36.12 # rasher: reconfigure for me 00.36.24 # yeah, make clean doens't cut it 00.36.27 # indeed 00.36.50 # * rasher employs build-script magic 00.37.14 # oh well 00.37.25 # ill go dream about greener pastures and faster codecs 00.37.27 # later, all 00.37.48 Quit preglow ("foop") 00.38.01 # rasher: pvmsg ;) 00.40.35 # pill: That worked.. I now have "hardcore" displayed 00.40.41 # lucky you 00.40.44 # i dont :) 00.40.45 # amiconn: Any reason why I shouldn't commit this? 00.40.54 # rasher: You need to reconfigure. This is caused by my change that the fat driver uses the build date as start date on non-rtc units 00.41.17 # No more 2003-08-01 :) 00.41.55 # Indeed 00.42.06 # It wasn't meant as a complaint 00.42.22 Join TCK [0] (i=TCK@85-210-26-58.dsl.pipex.com) 00.42.48 # rasher - "hardcore" ? 00.43.04 # as ID3v1 genre 00.43.20 # heh 00.43.27 # rasher: I think the genre list complement is a bugfix... 00.43.57 # I'd say that as well 00.44.04 # They seem widely accepted 00.44.30 # And Rockbox really should have them 00.44.46 # erm 00.44.50 # of course 00.45.06 # i cant live without crossover, hardcore, drumnbass and christian rock 00.45.11 # I'll have a look if anything's depending on the genre-list being a specific size 00.45.35 # Not to mention BritPop! 00.46.07 # man... watching The Apprentice USA is painful. 00.46.44 # hey ami you know the other day linus came in and we talk about the igp100? any more thoughts on that or if it is a possible target for a port of RB at a later stage? 00.46.57 # nd Negerpunk 00.46.58 # hahaha 00.47.17 # ooh, iGp100? 00.47.18 # * stripwax_ googles 00.47.29 # 1GB minidisc like drivers 00.47.31 # drives* 00.47.33 # igp-100 with the dash 00.47.35 # Pretty much a repackaged ihp100 with smaller drives 00.47.37 # rasher: I already checked. The only reference is in id3_get_genre(), and that one gets the array size as I already mentioned 00.47.44 # oh, neato. 00.47.52 # uses 1" drive 00.48.33 # is it a 'current' model? 00.48.36 # no 00.48.40 # 2YO 00.48.49 # amiconn: For some reason I was under the illusion that id3_get_genre returned the genre number 00.48.55 # Which would be... silly. 00.48.58 # but h100 isnt exactly current either since they dont manufacture it anymore 00.49.00 # pill ok thx.. 00.49.08 # webguest40 well, ... yes. 00.49.55 # rasher: No. It directly returns the genre string if there is one (id3v2), otherwise it returns a pointer into the genre list, derived from the genre number 00.50.13 # Yeah.. braindump here 00.50.13 # Hrm. Googling suggests the igp100 uses 1.5GB of *flash*. But I'm sure that's crap 00.50.13 # ...or NULL if out of bounds 00.50.27 # Stripwax: It is, I saw pictures 00.50.42 # just thought it might be real easy to port at a later stage when h100 rb is considered complete. nah it uses 1" hd. 00.51.09 # rasher cool. yeah, seems to 'branded' a flash player even though it's got an hdd. weird. 00.51.13 # could be replaced with an even larger capacity 1" 00.51.17 # webguest03: igp-100 should be an easy one, certainly easier than h-300 00.51.28 # k 00.51.44 # but is it worth it? 00.52.20 # I think so 00.52.28 # i mean i have never owned an archos so dont know if you took similar decisions in past with porting rb concerning archos players at that time which were 'out of date' 00.53.04 # I actually wanted to buy a ihp-100 instead of the h120 00.53.07 # It increases the user base, and hopefully the developer base, and it's a device with very similar hardware to one we already support 00.53.16 # But the only Danish shop claiming to have them didn't. 00.53.29 # That means, it should be worth it even if the absolute number isn't that high 00.53.44 # rasher - why would you want an ihp100 instead of h120? 00.53.54 # Eh, igp-100 00.53.56 # ah 00.53.58 # heh 00.53.58 # We ported to Ondio when it already was out of production 00.54.01 # so what can i do to help? i guess you would need some hardware (igp100) 00.54.02 # heh.. 00.54.26 # donation to rb fund or perhaps try to find an igp100 for sale? 00.54.59 # I'm still curious about the economics of the rb fund 00.55.30 # I expext porting h-100 -> igp-100 will be easier than archos recorder -> ondio 00.55.37 # do we see what the donations are being used for (like, e.g., the fund on www.nslu2-linux.org) 00.55.59 # stripwax_: not directly 00.56.18 # Occasionally there'll be a "we bought a gadget" somewhere 00.56.41 Quit Mathieu1 ("CGI:IRC") 00.56.50 Join Mathieu1 [0] (n=51429e3c@labb.contactor.se) 00.57.20 # rasher hm. would be nice! 00.57.36 # (sorry, this is the link I meant http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/DonationList) 00.58.14 # I don't care much for the donation list, I must say. 00.58.23 # http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/i-river-MP3-Player-1-3-GB-Model-iGP-100_W0QQitemZ5806739537QQcategoryZ48683QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 00.58.35 # But "this is how much we've recieved: .. and this is what we've bought:" 00.58.36 # I meant the second half of the page, which lists what the donations are being used for 00.58.37 # hmm there is only 1 igp for sale on ebay it seems 00.58.46 # stripwax_: yeah 00.58.51 # unless i looked in wrong place or for wrong thing.. 00.58.58 # That'd satisfy my curiousity 00.59.04 # actually 00.59.09 # my brother has an igp-100 00.59.14 # it's harddrive is dead 00.59.20 # ooooh! 00.59.26 # it's a very rare hd, tiny 1.5 gb thing 00.59.28 # Developer-fodder 00.59.29 # webguest40 - go global, dude. well, ok, this turns up just one more. http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&fkr=1&from=R8&satitle=igp&category0= 00.59.30 Nick Sucka is now known as Sucka`away (n=NNSCRIPT@host81-156-159-120.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) 00.59.33 # indeed 00.59.38 # it's a quite nice player actually 00.59.45 # but they are exceptionally rare these days 00.59.48 # thegeek - and do www.span.com sell those hdds? :-) 01.00.12 # oh 01.00.16 # let me see 01.00.20 Quit ender` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.00.28 # dont think so 01.00.29 # ah i found another. seems like a bargain 01.00.31 # it really is tiny 01.00.34 # http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5805604503&sspagename=ADME:L:RTQ:UK:1 01.00.39 # it's like a small memory card 01.00.40 # almost 01.00.43 # thegeek - they sell 0.85" and 1" drives .. so ... ? 01.00.50 # oh 01.00.54 # let me check a bit closer;) 01.01.21 # ... although nothing as small as 1.5 GB :-( 01.01.41 # well 01.01.45 # So he'll get a bigger harddisk 01.01.45 Quit Mathieu1 (Client Quit) 01.01.49 # that's hardly a problem 01.01.51 # rasher ;-) 01.01.51 # I know the drives came in 4gb versions too 01.01.52 Join Mathieu1 [0] (n=51429e3c@labb.contactor.se) 01.02.04 # but it was a wierd manufacturer 01.02.08 # I cant remember the name 01.02.12 # but certainly not one of the top dogs 01.02.21 # thegeek hrmph. unfortunate. 01.02.27 # con- something 01.02.30 # ;) 01.02.47 # Cornice 01.02.52 # yep 01.02.53 # same as the rio niturs 01.02.55 # nitrus 01.03.28 # the producer was cornice 01.03.30 # atleast I think so 01.04.01 # wonder if it's a standard interface 01.04.03 # * stripwax_ laughs 01.04.10 # it seems it's cf+ 01.04.14 # one inch 01.04.19 # http://www.span.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=23_505 01.04.28 # one from that list would prob work 01.04.29 # but. 01.04.35 # he's already bought a zen micro 01.04.51 # so steal the old one and send it to Linus ;) 01.04.53 # and it was cheaper than those drives;) 01.04.53 # hehe 01.04.58 # perhaps I will 01.05.02 # I'll hear with him 01.05.17 # it still works for radio 01.05.21 # so the old 1" cornice wasnt the same variety as these cf2 microdrives? 01.05.25 # but he does not exactly use it 01.05.35 # I really don't know webguest40 01.05.41 Quit paugh ("Leaving") 01.05.46 # Cornice stop manufacturing 1" drives: http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/05/04/HNcorniceseagate_1.html Guess that explains why igp is super-rare! 01.05.49 # cos a 8gig drive sounds reeally nice 01.06.10 # * stripwax_ is still scouring the shops for an mk4007gal ;-) 01.06.12 # http://www.span.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=23_505&products_id=5389 01.06.14 # in that picture 01.06.18 # you see the "connector" 01.06.43 # I think the connector on the harddrive in the igp only has less than 10 wires 01.06.45 # but damn 01.06.45 # so tiny.. 01.06.52 # it's so long since I looked at it 01.06.53 # Yeah - from that news article I posted - I'd guess Seagate and Cornice hdds would be compatible 01.07.00 # mhm 01.07.18 # Hrm, it looks like the connector I saw yesterday in the FCC pdfs 01.07.25 # but 01.07.27 # thing is 01.07.48 # I remeber the connector for the harddrive in the igp as slimmer than in those pictures 01.08.33 # http://www.mobilemag.com/content/images/1561_large.jpg 01.08.33 # there 01.08.35 # that's it 01.08.57 # hmm from the picture i took when i opened mine up i see a connector with 5 wires? 01.09.05 # yes 01.09.07 # yes just like the mobilemag link 01.09.08 # that seems right 01.09.16 # I remember there beeing very few wires myself 01.09.18 # for a harddrive 01.09.27 # Eh.. 01.09.34 # * stripwax_ wonders if a rb port to igp would really be 'that easy' 01.09.40 # hah 01.09.42 # This FCC pdf looks like there are 5*4 wires 01.09.43 # why bother? 01.09.53 # I mean 01.09.58 # there are _extremely_ few users 01.09.59 # AND 01.10.03 # the few igp's left 01.10.08 # will probably die in the near future 01.10.17 # I dont think the harddrive is very durable 01.10.31 # Hrm, not the same connector as that seagate 01.10.39 Quit Mathieu1 ("CGI:IRC") 01.10.39 # my brothers just died, I think it dropped from his bed.. that's like 30 cm's or so 01.10.44 # indeed rasher 01.10.57 # it's been 9 months since I took a look at the igp;) 01.11.01 # But it's 20 wires, rather than 5 01.11.06 # oh 01.11.08 # you sure? 01.11.28 # probably right 01.11.55 # but when I looked at the drive itself, the "wires" did _not_ look like they were seperated any more 01.11.57 # well my shot shows 5 bands or 4 wires each 01.12.02 # oh well 01.12.05 # ;) 01.12.06 # hehe 01.12.07 # 5 bands of* 01.12.08 # I give up 01.12.32 # they could be compatible then 01.12.35 # just different connectors 01.12.39 # y 01.12.43 # Sounds likely 01.13.13 # I remember checking out if the player could take an sd-card instead of a harddrive 01.13.22 # hey thegeek whats gonna happen to your bros igp? :) 01.13.22 # v unlikely 01.13.30 # no idea webguest40 01.13.36 # "Please note, actual product may not be exactly as shown. Pictures are for guidance only." so they're telling me that the harddrive platter doesn't actually have a picture of a girl on it!? 01.13.37 # yes stripwax_ 01.13.47 # but it could perhaps do a cf+ card 01.14.02 # hey; does my name still have a silly underscore at the end of it? 01.14.06 # I know there are storage cards for cf+, for pocket pc's and stuff 01.14.08 # * stripwax_ hates using Trillian as in irc client 01.14.11 # yes stripwax_ 01.14.12 # ;) 01.14.27 # hmm mine still works. since i paid about £95 for it a long time ago id rather source a cheaper but still working igp if i was to donate an igp to rb 01.16.36 Nick stripwax_ is now known as stripwax (n=stripwax@i-83-67-214-206.freedom2surf.net) 01.16.46 # * stripwax breathes a sigh of relief 01.17.05 # hang on.. is it *still* showing uping with an underscore on it? 01.17.11 # nope 01.17.14 # phew 01.17.26 # (although it still is for me! but it isn't for you) 01.18.51 Quit Moos (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The professional IRC Client") 01.18.53 # hmm with any luck in a few days on ebay i should have won a igp for £13-14. still got a few days to mull over whether to put a bid in or not. i cant see anyone else getting the igp 01.20.58 # hey did any of you hear about the 'ipod nano'? 01.21.29 # Can't miss it. 01.21.39 # http://www.misticriver.net/boards/showthread.php?t=28474 01.22.00 # looks nice but same old ipod photo underneath 01.23.50 Quit DangerousDan (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.24.54 # anybody here from the uk? 01.25.11 # webguest40 yeah, saw it on the news today. 01.25.16 # webguest03 - london 01.25.41 # see the england match? 01.26.01 # only a bit, actually missed the goal. was it actually a good game (didn't look it) 01.26.31 # no england played even worse than the sunday pub team 01.26.36 # heh 01.26.40 # no one knew what they were doing 01.27.28 # svenn doesnt care either way. if they sack him they still have to pay up the rest of the millions he is owed in his contract i think 01.27.49 # money grabbing ba*****! 01.28.28 Nick Sucka`away is now known as Sucka (n=NNSCRIPT@host81-156-159-120.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) 01.35.09 Quit webguest40 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.44.08 Quit Sucka ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") 01.48.30 # hahahaha 01.48.37 # i love the last commit :) 01.50.26 # gnight all 01.50.41 Part stripwax 01.50.55 Join Jason [0] (n=acd6620d@labb.contactor.se) 01.51.02 # Hi everyone 01.51.38 # has anyone seen the stupid new iPod nano? 01.51.49 Join paugh [0] (n=pete@2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:8000:0:3e03:6822) 01.51.50 # yep 01.51.54 # whats stupid about it? 01.52.25 # it looks like a normal ipod that has shrunk in the washing machine 01.52.31 # yeah 01.52.41 # the ipod mini range has been discontinued 01.53.17 # pill: Someone didn't... 01.53.39 # http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2005-09/0120.shtml 01.54.04 # When customising the wps for iriver, is it possible for it to display "Now Playing" on the top like the iPod's wps? 01.54.32 # Of course, just disable the statusbar 01.55.02 # <]RowaN[> ipod nano is hd based? 01.55.07 # yea 01.55.09 # No, flash. 01.55.09 # ]RowaN[: no, flash based 01.55.09 # rasher: Hmm, your list of additional genres seems to be different from wikipedia etc... 01.55.12 # it comes in 2 or 4GB sizes 01.55.19 # 1 or 4G 01.55.19 # heh 01.55.24 # iirc 01.55.34 # amiconn: Oh? Weird.. I nicked it from id3v2 (which in turns has it from id3lib I think) 01.55.41 # I'll do some tests 01.55.43 # rasher: it's insane somebody actually reacted to that.. 01.55.44 # http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ID3v1#Genres 01.55.50 # i wonder if a clock will be possible, or a way to record from the radio 01.55.52 # fm tuner 01.56.01 # amiconn: I guess Winamp is the "reference"? 01.56.38 # pill: I don't get it either (as witnessed by my reply) 01.56.45 # if i ever set genre's, i use id3 v2's text genre field and forget about any official number-based crap 01.57.58 # ze: Personally I don't care about the genre field at all 01.58.01 # oh hahahaha 01.58.08 # i didn't read your reply 01.58.25 # will he ever reply to that? :p 01.58.50 Quit ]RowaN[ () 01.58.53 # Erp.. metal is there twice, what the.. 01.59.13 # oh, I messed up 01.59.21 # uhoh 01.59.33 # that should be "Heavy Metal" and "Black Metal" 01.59.40 # I'll sort that once I've tested 01.59.41 # yeah 01.59.45 # typo 01.59.47 # typo 01.59.49 # booh! 02.00.02 # Well, faulty sed-expression really 02.00.09 # yes 02.00.14 # more like that 02.00.29 # hmm, wtf is negerpunk anyway? 02.00.29 # rasher: That's not the only one; you separated "Christian rock" into "Christian" and "Rock" 02.00.41 # did anyone ever tag a file that way? 02.00.47 # I only have the last words of all of them :) 02.00.53 # oh 02.01.50 # I'll fix them all, but first to make sure it's correctly ordered 02.02.02 # Who chose this silly 44100 Hz sample frequency as a standard???!! 02.03.01 # the japs 02.03.21 # the whole cdda standard is japanese 02.05.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.09.09 # it was to fit 74 minutes on the cd's that were available at the time 02.10.30 # Yes, but why 44100? Why not 44000? 02.10.58 # heh 02.11.04 Quit Jason ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 02.11.11 # because then it wouldn't be the double of 22050! 02.11.25 # yeah but was 22050 in use then? 02.11.35 # I'm guessing no 02.11.48 # It wasn't an actual argument 02.11.49 # i thought 22050 stemmed from being half of 44100 02.11.53 # heh 02.12.43 # 44100 is an ugly number. Few possibilities to reduce ratios containing it... 02.14.11 # yeah 02.14.23 Quit _aLF ("Leaving") 02.14.44 # 44100 is just bad in general 02.14.49 # amiconn: The order of the tags is correct. I just created a bunch of files like "goa.mp3 -> genre=goa" etc. 02.14.54 # (using winamp) 02.14.58 # And they all show up right 02.15.06 # (apart from my screwup of course) 02.16.15 # Oh.. there wasn't anything other than my screwup.. 02.16.19 # I'll commit right away 02.20.01 # Fixed. 02.20.02 # and no racism 02.20.05 # please 02.20.06 # kthx 02.20.08 # :) 02.20.08 # :p 02.20.10 # :-X 02.21.36 # i wonder why that guy overreacted that way.. 02.23.20 # I'm not even going to speculate. 02.23.25 # no 02.23.41 # he was probably trying to start a useless netwar 02.23.52 # the good, the bad, the pointless 02.24.08 # anyway nevermind 02.26.17 # Not even the winamp forums seem to know what that genre is 02.26.22 # hehe 02.26.48 # it was probably a fantasy from someone at winamp 02.26.49 # Although some guy is claiming that Winamp is going to get sued over it 02.26.54 # ? 02.27.00 # http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?s=a4be52f91acf2ecb15ee08f9cda93dcf&threadid=23431&highlight=negerpunk 02.27.10 # Ah, welcome to my phpsession. 02.27.25 # haha 02.27.31 # http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=23431 should do 02.27.35 # that's why the swede reacted that way 02.27.51 # first link worked 02.27.52 # oh yes, I knew that, but still... 02.28.06 # well 02.28.33 # My reaction would have been the same if it had used the "other word" 02.28.41 # winamp added weird genres, and no sue will ever lead to anything.. 02.29.27 # Uh-oh.. it's mentioned in the commit-mail again. 02.29.57 # really? 02.29.59 # woah$ 02.30.12 # can you paste? 02.30.15 # Well I changed the line with it 02.30.21 # So the diff shows it 02.30.27 # ah 02.30.57 # I like how he just goes "that word" and expects that everyone knows what he's talking about 02.31.04 # Because heaven forbid he should actually quote it 02.31.22 # Erm. I'll shut up now before I step on more toes. 02.31.48 # anyway, thanks for the fix 02.31.56 # i'll try it tomorrow morning 02.32.23 # It works as advertised 02.32.43 # no astually 02.32.45 # i'll try it nowx 02.33.29 # Grab a bleeding edge build and knock yourself out 02.34.35 # yeah hold 02.35.06 # and after that bedtime 02.39.17 # Strange that noone had bumped into that problem before 02.40.41 # :) 02.40.49 # that's why i came into play :p 02.41.51 # perfect 02.41.53 # it works 02.42.04 # Good 02.42.20 # thanks a bunch man 02.42.33 # i noticed this problem while on vacation 02.42.35 # and i was like 02.42.46 # "i should tell them" 02.42.52 # oh well 02.42.59 # i'm glad you sorted this out 02.43.08 # i need to be able to commit 02.43.54 # anyway, sleep well, and dont worry about that twisted "negerpunk" genre ;) 02.44.02 # thanks again 02.44.06 # gnight 02.44.16 # You're welcome, night 02.59.24 Nick paugh is now known as AliasCoffee (n=pete@2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:8000:0:3e03:6822) 03.28.41 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.44.52 Quit rasher ("CGI:IRC") 03.48.33 Quit cYmen ("zZz") 03.50.38 Part AliasCoffee ("Leaving") 04.05.17 Join QT_ [0] (i=as@madwifi/users/area51) 04.05.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.14.43 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@p54BD68B1.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.15.55 Quit QT (Connection timed out) 05.22.58 Join Sconn [0] (n=Condor@hlfxns01bbf-142068217004.ns.aliant.net) 05.31.19 Part Sconn ("Leaving") 06.05.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.08.48 Join wacky [0] (n=wacky@modemcable006.177-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) 06.08.59 # seen austriancoder 06.09.04 # !seen austriancoder 06.09.19 # hey, where are your old cheap irc scripts ? 06.13.29 # Just bought an iAudio X5, and I'd be *very* pleased to see a Rockbox port happening.. 06.14.07 # I can't stand those horrible firmwares anymore, neither iRiver's or iAudio's :) and since I broke my H120's LCD.. I must just wait! 06.14.11 # see you guys 06.14.12 Quit wacky ("ahuh") 06.17.38 Join Aramil [0] (n=tony@ipa73.1.tellas.gr) 06.27.01 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.40.34 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@labb.contactor.se) 06.48.04 # * LinusN listens to christian negerpunk 07.00.25 Join paugh [0] (n=pete@2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:8000:0:3e03:6822) 07.07.36 Join kurzhaarrocker [0] (n=Phil@p5090A0AD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 07.11.23 # Christian Negerpunk? Isn't that offensive? That name for a music style must have been invented by the ku klux clan. Only they wouldn't listen to it. 07.12.51 # :-) 07.13.20 # negergangsta 07.35.12 Quit kurzhaarrocker (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.35.37 # mmorning 07.44.03 Quit paugh ("Leaving") 07.45.14 # morning amiconn 07.45.55 # LinusN: I'd rather not have had a look at the frame size/length calculation :/ 07.46.24 # Our code isn't correct for a number of cases 07.47.22 # ...and I still don't have a proper soltion for the accuracy problem with 44100/22050/11025 Hz 07.47.55 # ...without 64bit arithmetics, that is 07.49.20 Join B4gder [0] (n=daniel@static-213-115-255-230.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se) 07.49.44 # (1) mp3headerinfo() is wrong about the frame size of version 2 / version 2.5 with layer 1 and layer 2 07.49.58 # (1) oops :-) 07.50.08 # (2) layer 1 frame size isn't accurate for _any_ frequency 07.50.29 # (2) Oops again 07.51.30 # The thing with (1) is that the number of samples / frame is halved for version 2/2.5 with layer 3, which the code correctly accounts for. 07.51.43 # But for layer 1 and 2 this half-size rule is wrong 07.52.30 # aha 07.52.34 # (2) results from the fact that the layer 1 frame size granularity is 4 byte, while for layer 2 and 3 it is 1 byte 07.52.46 # This also applies to the padding 07.52.56 # aha 07.54.26 # I'm working on a replacement for this function, but I'm still undecided about the length calculation ... 07.57.41 Nick QT_ is now known as QT (i=as@madwifi/users/area51) 07.59.20 # LinusN: The thing is whether we should account for possible overflows in rather theoretical constellations. I begin to think I should just ignore this... 07.59.36 # do so 08.01.42 Join pilot000 [0] (n=c31ce021@labb.contactor.se) 08.04.12 # The constellation where the overflow would occur first would be a mpeg version 2, 22050 Hz (or version 2.5, 11025 Hz) (!) file with layer 1 (!!) at 8 kbps (!!!). The filetime calculation would overflow for files >~ 40 hours... 08.05.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.06.18 # kind of extreme :-) 08.08.19 # Ble, I'm wrong 08.08.32 # Layer 1 has a higher minimum bitrate... 08.09.13 # ...so the problem is even more theoretical 08.09.43 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@tm.213.143.74.124.dc.telemach.net) 08.31.13 # * B4gder does the slow and weird rfid dance 08.35.49 Quit merbanan (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.39.59 # LinusN: Yesterday I did another >12 hour test recording (same settings as the other day, but splitting at 1 hour intervals) 08.40.07 # No single error... 08.40.14 # wonderful 08.40.45 # THere's still the problem with bitshifted frame data when recording from s/pdif... 08.42.02 # i guess there's nothing we can do about that 08.49.39 # Maybe we can... but that requires more experimentation, so it's a post-2.5 project for me 08.58.33 # We can prevent the MAS from delivering shifted frame data... but we can probably stop it doing so when detecting it 08.58.43 # *We can't... 08.59.13 # I bet it correlates with s/pdif parity errors... 08.59.14 Quit webguest03 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 09.07.19 Join Zagor [0] (i=foobar@h63n1fls31o265.telia.com) 09.09.20 # amiconn: probably 09.16.10 Join GaNgSta69 [0] (n=GaNgSta6@CPE-144-131-99-25.nsw.bigpond.net.au) 09.16.20 # hey ne1 on 09.19.34 # * LinusN doesn't see the "ne1 on" nick 09.19.46 # /whois ne1 09.19.51 # oops ;-) 09.19.51 # shhh... lol 09.20.13 # i was just comin 2 say.. massive fan of this shit for my h140. 09.20.15 # butttt 09.20.46 # the volume is low compared to the original .. just askin if there was a way to make it louder or anyhtin like that 09.20.57 # lower the bass and treble 09.21.15 # alrite. il try now 09.21.33 # the original firmware lowers them itself when you increase the volume 09.22.01 # to zero u think if im on full vol 09.22.31 # wayyy louder.. thanku 09.23.44 Join merbanan [0] (i=banan@dalink.campus.luth.se) 09.48.39 Join DangerousDan [0] (n=Miranda@newtpulsifer.campus.luth.se) 09.48.44 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.54.10 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s057b.studby.ntnu.no) 09.55.55 # * HCl amuses himself over the svante email 10.00.26 # * HCl agrees with B4gder, but still thinks that a person getting so upset over a term thats not even meant in a racist way is something they really need to work on 10.00.40 # yes 10.03.30 # * HCl posts a comment 10.05.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.08.40 Quit GaNgSta69 () 10.19.30 # man, tinyurl is such a silly concept 10.19.41 # very 10.20.52 # i think its implimentation missed its actual usefulness by a few years or so 10.21.16 # and even at that, isn't what would've been ideal 10.23.14 # it's just so annoying, having no idea where the url will take me 10.23.48 # right, thats what i mean by not being ideal.. just because its shortening the url doesn't mean it necessarily has to remove all information about where it goes 10.24.40 # * LinusN googles for "negerpunk" 10.25.19 # that is an insanely weird genre 10.25.47 # like christian gangsta rap isn't o.o; 10.25.53 # hehe 10.26.14 # I wish they would announce the name of the ones who made that list up for public redicule 10.26.33 # :-P 10.28.13 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 10.28.20 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@l192-117-115-168.broadband.actcom.net.il) 10.31.54 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@p54BD7B53.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.32.54 # found it!!! 10.32.56 # http://www.mp3int.com/eng/download_mp3/162819/7213805/Separate_S-e-p-a-r-a-t-e/ 10.33.25 # ??? 10.33.27 # Genre : Negerpunk 10.33.31 # ah 10.33.52 # lovely web site... 10.34.37 # now this is fun: http://www.digital-inn.de/showthread.php?p=856 10.35.03 # haha 10.35.16 # of all genres... 10.35.35 # http://www.royalbunker.de/ is quite special, too 10.36.33 # lol 10.36.54 # damn, there's no english word for "pöbeln" 10.37.09 # mob perhaps 10.38.12 # in a few days, rockbox.org will make it to the top-10 in google for "negerpunk" 10.38.15 # it's a verb :) 10.47.47 # http://www.bandiscographie.de/tibblekoeren/_47568_vara-mest-aelskade-julsanger.html 10.48.35 # that's a fine example of negerpunk 10.48.43 # indeed 10.49.45 # I doubt there's anyone actually claiming there's a real genre called that. especially since it's a swedish (or at least non-english) word in the middle of all the english genre name. 10.50.10 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.50.11 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@p54BD7B53.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.50.56 # from a no-longer-cached page, "The st louis punk page": 10.50.59 # "also, download and rate Fight brain damage, it's an energetic form of negerpunk" 10.51.39 # weird 10.51.44 # now who would download a brain damage? ;-P 10.51.57 # oh, *fight* brain damage 10.52.01 # * B4gder grins 10.53.09 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-122-138.VIC.netspace.net.au) 11.08.26 # lunch time 11.14.45 # i can't believe someone got riled up over genre tags 11.28.31 Quit pilot000 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 11.39.57 # :p 11.46.47 # if anyone wants some headscratchning, help me crack this perl/utf8 double-encoding problem: http://bjorn.haxx.se/strftest.pl 11.48.45 # haah, cracked it. just goes to show pasting is good for the brain. :-D 11.49.13 # :P 11.52.10 Quit Aramil ("Leaving") 12.05.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.07.15 Join cYmen [0] (n=cymen@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 12.27.40 Quit thegeek (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12.35.40 Join Sucka [0] (n=NNSCRIPT@host81-156-159-120.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) 12.46.20 Join Febs [0] (n=Febs@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 12.58.31 Join ]RowaN[ [0] (n=5688bc8a@labb.contactor.se) 12.59.10 # <]RowaN[> guys the "Scroll Speed Setting Example" bit of text doesnt actually scroll if you're using a font thin enough to fit it all on the screen 13.01.36 # <]RowaN[> wow flac working good now =] 13.15.37 # why -should- it even scroll if it fits on the screen? 13.18.15 # to make a usable example? 13.18.17 # an 13.27.09 # <]RowaN[> thats what im saying.. make it longer so it does scroll, otherwise its a useless example 13.27.38 # the user sets the font, doesn't he? 13.28.10 # <]RowaN[> whats that got to do with the price of cheese 13.29.29 # <]RowaN[> rockfont-8 is thin enough that it fits on 1 line and doesnt scroll, so im not talking about any obscure fonts here 13.32.11 # you know, that saying goes "with todays's milk price" :P 13.35.30 # <]RowaN[> i used my imagination, creatively 13.36.21 Join noC|andY`fRa [0] (i=andy@dsl-084-058-097-206.arcor-ip.net) 13.43.34 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ipa73.1.tellas.gr) 14.03.25 Join preglow [0] (n=thomjoha@hekta.edt.aft.hist.no) 14.06.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.08.01 # nice little controversy on the mailing list 14.08.59 # hehe 14.11.43 Join ender [0] (i=ychat@tm.213.143.74.124.dc.telemach.net) 14.13.28 Quit ender` (Nick collision from services.) 14.13.31 Nick ender is now known as ender` (i=ychat@tm.213.143.74.124.dc.telemach.net) 14.26.01 Join tucoz [0] (n=81b17b04@labb.contactor.se) 14.27.13 # Regarding the scroll speed setting example not scrolling. Why not just change it to "Scroll Speed Setting Example Text", just like the step size 14.27.52 # Or have it showing different strings for different sized fonts 14.28.34 Quit B4gder ("Lämnar") 14.29.21 Quit Febs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.32.48 # Anyways, it has to be > 32 chars to actually scroll while using the tiniest fonts. 14.37.18 Quit noC|andY`fRa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.40.36 # <]RowaN[> cant the line just be set (forced) to scroll, so you dont have to worry about accomodating for character sizes in different fonts 14.40.54 # no, lines don't scroll if they don't have to 14.41.22 # Or just change it to the standard example "The red fox..." 14.41.30 # ..or something like that 14.41.44 # Then, all examples can use the same font 14.41.52 # erm, not font, string 14.43.37 # yes, the test string simply needs to be extended 14.47.00 Part tucoz 14.47.23 # <]RowaN[> just double whats there already perhaps, repeat the line i mean 14.49.25 Join Moos [0] (i=Moos@m60.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 14.49.33 Join Febs [0] (n=Febs@64-190-36-214.client.cypresscom.net) 15.07.31 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s057b.studby.ntnu.no) 15.08.39 Quit silencer (Nick collision from services.) 15.08.40 Join silencer [0] (n=silencer@zen.via.ecp.fr) 15.08.42 Quit silencer (Nick collision from services.) 15.12.14 Join tucoz [0] (n=81b17b04@labb.contactor.se) 15.12.57 # amiconn: are you here? I just wonder whether one of the shades of gray flicker for you when running the mandelbrot-plugin. 15.13.41 Join silencer_ [0] (n=silencer@zen.via.ecp.fr) 15.14.17 # If not, then I guess there are minor differences in the h1x0 series. 15.15.43 # well, there probably are 15.16.12 # I guess, does the shades flicker for you as well preglow? 15.21.52 # got to go, bye 15.21.54 Part tucoz 15.33.13 Quit tvelocity ("Leaving") 15.49.46 # Slasheri: around? 15.55.45 Part LinusN 15.56.35 Quit ]RowaN[ ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 15.56.52 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 16.06.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.18.53 Quit preglow (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.39.57 # [16:08] muesli: please give that link linus http://www.hifiaktiv.at/diverses/testfrequenzen.htm maybe it will help him in any way 16.42.59 # that svante person just won't stop, will he 16.43.13 # at least in one of his emails he acknowledged it to be his own shortcomings 16.45.42 # It's a ridiculous argument. I'm firmly opposed to racism, but I don't see how pretending words don't exist will help anything. 17.27.25 Quit crash (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.28.09 Join crash__ [0] (n=crash@a15167580.alturo-server.de) 17.52.02 Quit TCK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.01.49 Join dpassen1 [0] (n=dpassen1@resnet-233-61.resnet.umbc.edu) 18.06.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.46.00 Join atubbs [0] (n=atubbs@ool-435634a8.dyn.optonline.net) 19.14.02 # Febs: not just that, he used racism himself, heh. 19.14.27 # his arguments are just totally not valid.. 19.16.12 # On a happy subject, there's a nice review of Rockbox on dapreview: http://www.dapreview.net/content.php?review.221 19.16.18 # ^^happier 19.19.48 # "Database creation is not really implemented." 19.19.57 # seems like someone didn't read the wiki 19.21.57 # Right. I also found it a little disappointing that they linked to the installation guide on MR instead of the one on the wiki that I spent a long time writing, but what can you do? 19.22.15 # It's still a very favorable write-up. 19.51.45 Join preglow [0] (n=thomjoha@hekta.edt.aft.hist.no) 19.52.51 Quit Slasheri (herbert.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19.52.51 NSplit herbert.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 19.53.43 # Am I the first one to wish for a 'clear playlist' function? 19.53.49 Nick solex_ is now known as solex (n=jrschulz@c211183.adsl.hansenet.de) 19.55.22 # It would be great if you could clear the list, while the current track continues to play 19.55.43 # and when the track is over, Rockbox should start with the first item in the new list 19.56.09 # oh forget it, sound like a new feature. 20.06.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.07.12 Quit dpassen1 () 20.24.54 Quit preglow ("leaving") 20.29.26 Quit DangerousDan ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 20.37.11 NHeal (timeout) herbert.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 21.07.09 Join chenco [0] (n=ghostige@tor/session/x-bf616b7ce3754181) 21.18.11 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ipa73.1.tellas.gr) 21.24.16 # woah 21.25.58 # i wouldn't have thought that id3 >125 patch would lead into a pointless arguing about racism and tolerance. 21.26.15 # that is plain insane. 21.31.12 # i think this guy didn't play gta:sa a single minute. 21.31.29 # or he would have died instantly. 21.38.15 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 21.38.16 # Bleh. File playtime calculation for cbr mp2/mp3 is also imprecise :( 21.38.34 # ...even more than vbr 21.39.12 Join Slasheri [0] (i=miipekk@ihme.org) 21.39.20 # solex: no no, put the request on the requesttracker 21.39.41 # even if there is a feature freeze, its still good to make suggestions, though they cannot be implemented at the time, they might in the future 21.40.16 # XD 21.40.20 # rockbox a political project? 21.40.22 # XD 21.40.23 # lmao. 21.54.25 Join solex_ [0] (n=jrschulz@d083066.adsl.hansenet.de) 21.55.39 Join ]RowaN[ [0] (i=a2b0y@82-43-212-52.cable.ubr10.newm.blueyonder.co.uk) 21.57.20 # <]RowaN[> i cant wait for the day when you dont need a degree in nuclear physics in order to add replay gain to your music collection without butchering the existing tags 21.57.26 # <]RowaN[> can't wait! 22.00.38 Quit Sucka ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") 22.02.13 Join webguest60 [0] (n=5087fe0e@labb.contactor.se) 22.04.26 # RowaN: why do you have differences between your "v1 and v2" tags?, if your music is tagged correcly in the first place its a no brainer 22.06.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.07.16 # applying Replay Gain with Fooar is a no brainer IF your music is tagged correctly. 22.07.33 Part webguest60 22.07.38 Quit solex (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.11.13 Quit atubbs ("leaving") 22.11.57 Join atubbs [0] (n=atubbs@ool-435634a8.dyn.optonline.net) 22.12.23 # d 22.12.35 # sorry 22.14.38 # <]RowaN[> differences? because id3v2 doesnt fit into id3v1 22.15.18 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 22.18.53 # <]RowaN[> ah the latest beta has some more options, lets see 22.22.54 # <]RowaN[> still buggered, insists on overwriting v1 tags with v2 tags 22.23.07 Join preglow [0] (n=thomjoha@hekta.edt.aft.hist.no) 22.24.51 # Slasheri, linuxstb: i take it none of you actually started on a wav writing scheme? 22.25.30 # No, not me. 22.26.58 # <]RowaN[> and the "properties" of a track doesnt even tell you if the replaygain is in id3v2 or ape or what 22.27.40 Quit atubbs ("leaving") 22.28.42 # preglow: I'm interested in using the EMAC in my ALAC decoder - do you have any pointers to documentation (apart from your source)? 22.29.25 # I'm upset that FLAC is now beating it... :) 22.33.04 # haha 22.33.12 # itll be easy to beat 22.33.27 # the filter loop will probably be the only place where you can benefit from it 22.33.45 # the things you should be looking to optimise, are thing on the form a += b 22.33.52 # a += b*c 22.34.01 # where b*c might easily be a 64 bit multiplication 22.35.14 # b*c might also easily be emac optimisable if its a 64 bit multiplication, but pure 32 bit muls without an additional add will not be faster with emac 22.35.45 # what ive optimised in libflac is just a very long mul and add chain, where the muls are 32 bit 22.35.51 # all the other codecs use 64 bit muls 22.43.10 # The calculations I'm looking at in ALAC are of the form (a1-b)*c1+(a2-b)*c2+... etc where a and b are 32-bit and c is 16-bit. The result is stored in a 32-bit variable. 22.44.15 # Any idea if that would benefit very much from an ASM routine? 22.48.42 # yes, i think it would 22.48.48 # could you give me a line number and a file name? 22.48.52 # in the alac distro 22.51.33 # I've already started optimising the common cases in C, but the general case of the main loop I'm looking at is line 467 of alac.c 22.51.48 # (in the original distribution) 22.52.52 # well, yes 22.53.00 # this is exactly the part of flac i have optimised 22.53.07 # That's what I thought. 22.53.11 Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.53.14 # the fir filter loop 22.54.25 # so 22.54.44 # its clear from the implementation, this is a 32 bit mul 22.54.50 # so you can use the emac unit in integer mode 22.54.55 # like ive done for flac 22.55.56 # The general cases (the author of the ALAC decoder seems to think these are the only cases) are 4 and 8 order cases. 22.56.46 # When you say "32 bit mul" do you mean that the result is 32 bits? 22.56.53 # yes 23.02.02 # I don't know if you read it in the logs, but I managed to get libfaad2 compiling (sort of) in Rockbox. It gave me lots of ICE errors with gcc which I had to hack around. But I haven't got as far as trying to implement a codec yet. 23.03.29 # hmm 23.03.37 # any nasty hacks? 23.03.55 # filed any bug reports to the gcc people? 23.05.04 # No, I don't think they are very nasty. In fact, most of the problems were caused by the source mixing signed and unsigned variables in the same calculation. Changing the variables to the same type fixed the problem. 23.05.21 # strange, still 23.05.36 # No, I haven't reported any bugs - any idea how actively maintained the m68k parts of gcc are? 23.07.32 # One thing I noticed is that integer-only mode doesn't support "MAIN profile AAC". But I have no idea what that means, or if it's a problem. I also haven't finished getting the SSR profile decoder working. But again, I don't know anything about AAC, so I don't know if that's an issue either. 23.08.53 # hmm 23.08.59 # i think most things use the light profile 23.09.05 # dont remember what its called 23.09.16 # i dont think theyre very actively maintained 23.09.18 # Correction: Fixed-point mode doesn't support MAIN or SSR profiles - it's not an ICE problem that SSR isn't included. 23.10.02 # what is ssr? 23.10.56 # No idea - just one of the many AAC profiles: MAIN, SSR, LTP and LD 23.11.43 # And PS. 23.14.10 # lc is the common one, i believe 23.15.50 # I need to write a simple decoder (running on my PC) using libfaad2 - so I'll be able to do some tests then. But I don't have very many AAC files. 23.16.08 # still, lovely work 23.16.24 # i wanted to get libfaad2 working myself, but probably would have given up when i hit the ice problems, heh 23.16.51 # aac files are easily produced with free encoders 23.16.52 # I'm not sure how motivated I am, but it's the major missing codec from Rockbox at the moment. 23.17.11 # well, thats more or less why i wanted to as well 23.17.22 # ive never used aac, so thats not why 23.18.50 # seems lc and main are the most used, yes 23.18.53 # ssr is a streaming thing 23.19.22 # that is, mostly used with streaming, since it allows some bitrate/samplerate adjustments to be done on the fly 23.21.28 # My only hesitation about using AAC myself is that it seems to be even worse than MP3 when it comes to gapless. 23.22.50 # a really embarassing fact, if you ask me 23.23.08 # my only hesitation is that its even more heavy patented than mp3, heh 23.23.12 # sticking to oggs 23.23.24 # That's very true. 23.24.04 # but yeah 23.24.08 # lc is the most used profile 23.24.26 # did anything happen about the faad2 license thing? 23.24.37 # I do have a slight hesitation about adding ALAC to Rockbox - but as far as I know, Apple hasn't complained to the person who reverse-engineered the decoder. 23.24.54 # well, do they have any reason to do so? 23.24.57 # I haven't found anything more about the license, so I don't know. 23.24.58 # they cant possibly win a case 23.25.09 # reverseengineering is legal 23.25.40 # The only problem could be patents - but ALAC doesn't seem to do anything new from the comments I've read about it. 23.25.46 # oh, no 23.25.54 # from what ive read, its perfectly standard 23.26.03 # adaptive fir and rice-like coding 23.26.52 # but if youre worried about that, i dont see why youre adding aac 23.26.59 # which is ridden with patents 23.27.19 # True :) 23.27.58 # i say we just ignoreit 23.28.13 # if someone complains and have a good case, we just remove it 23.28.36 # That would be a strong argument for making codec plugins completely independent from the core. 23.28.41 # indeed 23.29.01 # id really love to see that happen 23.29.04 # and i expect it will, some day 23.29.12 # but i need to go now 23.29.18 # see you later 23.29.32 # I'm not convinced - Rockbox is an audio firmware - what else is left if you take out the audio code. 23.29.37 Join webguest37 [0] (n=cf05e597@labb.contactor.se) 23.29.38 # if youre wondering about doing the emac opt, i recommend you look at my flac opt 23.29.42 # its pretty similar 23.29.50 # ill love to help out when im back 23.29.55 # That would have been my starting point. 23.30.01 # How long are you away for? 23.30.05 # couple of days more 23.30.22 # Have fun. 23.30.26 # yup, will, bye 23.30.28 Quit preglow ("leaving") 23.30.44 Quit webguest37 (Client Quit) 23.35.43 Join rasher [0] (n=3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) 23.35.50 # :-X 23.35.59 # Troublemaker aboard. 23.42.53 # I'll bet you didn't expect that tirade to result from adding genres, did you? 23.43.30 # hey rasher 23.46.18 # good night :) 23.46.39 # rasher: I almost felt the need to react to your discussion 23.46.51 # Negerpunk = valid dutch 23.46.56 # Neger = someone from africa 23.47.04 # punk = the punk music style 23.47.26 # negerpunk is a form of punk with a lot of rithm (mainly on african instruments) 23.48.28 # That certainly doesn't sound very oppressive to me. 23.49.38 # indeed 23.49.48 # but neger is not like the english nigger.... 23.49.51 # it's not negative here 23.50.18 # <]RowaN[> i want negerpunk at my wedding 23.50.20 # <]RowaN[> and funeral 23.50.28 # ghehe 23.50.42 # <]RowaN[> negerpunk for everyone! 23.50.46 # Is the term "negerpunk" of Dutch origin, or is it simply a term that happens to have a non-offensive meaning in Dutch? 23.50.48 # * ]RowaN[ goes back to coma 23.52.03 # Febs: don't know 23.52.16 # neger is a dutch word... and I don't know any other language using it 23.53.22 # Danish has it, and I presume Swedish as well 23.53.39 # lots of european languages use neg* as their word for black... 23.54.05 # For the past 10 years, its meaning has turned towards the english nigger. Not sure why. 23.54.14 # Well, more.. 15 years probably 23.54.15 # ne·ger (de ~ (m.), ~s) 23.54.15 # 1 persoon behorend tot één van de zwarte rassen uit Afrika => nikker, roetmop 23.54.28 # Before that, it was a perfectly neutral word 23.54.32 # in english: Person belonging to 1 of the black races in Africa 23.54.55 # but there is a link to nikker 23.55.15 # wich is linked as an alias for neger :X 23.55.15 # nik·ker (de ~ (m.), ~s) 23.55.15 # 1 [bel.] neger 23.55.36 # Even so, pretending that the word doesn't exist doesn't alleviate any problem of racism. If anything, it validates the negative connotation. 23.55.48 # indeed 23.55.51 # Febs: true 23.55.57 # Makes sense, googling for "negerpunk" gave a lot of Dutch results 23.56.06 # I guess there's a dutchman at nullsoft 23.56.35 # Or someone who likes a band playing it. 23.56.58 # You'll notice there's an entire genre devoted to Primus. Justin Frankel is apparently known to be a great fan of Primus. 23.57.14 # <]RowaN[> in rockbox theres "list by date" and "list by newest date" (iirc) .. is that equvalant to date created vs date modified or something else? 23.57.19 # last year... we had some guy in school... and someone said "marrokaan" to him... He asked why the other one said nasty things to him... reply? "Why? You think marrokaan is a nasty word? Who's the racist here?" 23.57.31 # Haha 23.57.49 # ]RowaN[: No, I think it's just by date, and by date reversed 23.58.24 # <]RowaN[> i think foobar redated all my files when attempting to replaygain them... I LOVE FOOBAR 23.58.39 # Well, it should, really. 23.58.58 # But it could be nice and offer an option not to