--- Log for 29.09.105 Server: herbert.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 28 days and 17 hours ago 00.00.10 # ...and we have 2^31 milliseconds 00.00.34 # that sounds... reasonable 00.00.40 # That means exactly 8 bits per millisecond, or 8000 bits per second 00.00.43 # most likely i typoed. 00.03.10 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 00.03.35 # amiconn: but the idea you had about using the rest of the codec buffer for malloc memory might work 00.03.51 # except for codecs like faad which are both huge AND malloc hungry, of course... 00.05.06 Quit zeekoe ("Leaving") 00.07.58 # ok here another problem that it gets on my nerves. While I think I have solved it all goes wrong. 00.08.29 # I load a filename and I want to compare if it has the "/.rockbox/presets/ in it. 00.09.18 # so i type: if(!strncmp(buf, "/.rockbox/presets/", 18)) 00.09.38 # is this thought right? 00.11.38 # you lack a prettyfing space after the 'if', but apart from that it looks decent 00.11.40 # :) 00.12.03 Quit Moos ("Glory to Rockbox") 00.13.07 # does the space matter, I think not. Or do you like spaces after an if? 00.13.22 # no, of course not, just me joking around 00.14.19 # because in some of the code that I write I can see someone who wants to put a space after an if. Could be you... :p 00.16.17 # oh, i like generous whitespace 00.16.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.20.26 # pfff it doesn't work. It always thinks that this string isn't inside buf. 00.20.37 # I hate C when these things happen. 00.24.58 # XavierGr: Does gcc give you any warnings? 00.28.55 Join zaZZ [0] (i=acupk@dyn78.her1.nas.panafonet.gr) 00.29.28 Join ansivirus [0] (n=ansiviru@adsl-68-88-201-131.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 00.29.56 # Hi, does anyone know if anyone's working on an iriver version of Rockbox 2.5? thx 00.30.05 # ther 00.30.15 # there'll be no iriver version of 2.5 00.30.23 # XavierGr: try a debugf(bu); 00.30.29 # oh?why not? 00.30.38 # Because we 00.30.45 # just to see if the value is good 00.30.49 # Because we're past 2.5 now, and iriver is still not ready. 00.31.06 Quit cYmen (Remote closed the connection) 00.31.07 Join cYmen [0] (n=cymen@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 00.31.21 # You mean you still work on iriver in general? 00.31.21 Quit bluebrother^ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.31.22 Join bluebrother^ [0] (n=c28@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 00.31.29 # sure 00.31.43 DBUG Enqueued KICK zaZZ 00.31.43 # 5,00:4,00) ok thank you. 00.32.02 # but it'll just get released along with another release, possibly 2.6 00.32.25 # I think it'll be worth a 3.0 00.32.35 # true 00.32.44 # I see. do u know when a new release is due? 00.33.01 # well, either in 2 months, of if the iriver release is close, slightly longer 00.33.40 # i think it's definitely worth a 3.0, at least if we merge archos and iriver playback code 00.33.42 # but if iriver is nowhere near ready in 2 months, there'll probably be another archos only rlease 00.33.56 # TiMiD: I just typed if(!strcmp(buf,buf) and again it refuse to enter the if. 00.34.29 # i see. thanks.keep up the good work. 00.35.21 # XavierGr: Are you running on the sim or a real device? 00.35.42 # (It shouldn't matter though) 00.36.18 # sim 00.36.41 # oO 00.37.05 # I deleted the whole compilation I will build again. 00.37.09 # well you know, programming makes me too loose my hairs :) 00.37.18 # hair 00.37.24 # Does DEBUGF("%s\n",buf); display the buffer as you would expect? 00.37.27 # in some cases indeed. 00.37.39 # I will try that. 00.38.00 # JUst add lots of those lines around the troublesome code - you'll quickly spot the problem. 00.38.15 # something is wrong with the build. Because I use some splashes for debugging, but the text I put is different from the displayed. 00.38.50 # Maybe you have some buffer overflows somewhere? 00.38.59 Quit zaZZ ("»¡« Scøøp Script 2004 »!« download it at www.scoopsite.com") 00.39.24 # I mean different not garbage. It displays text from previous compilations 00.39.45 # ... 00.40.28 # did you do the make clean ? 00.40.45 # I am using a make -k due to the alac errors 00.41.03 Join BirdFish [0] (n=bradbox8@198.30.209.70) 00.41.15 # have you not re-run configure yet? 00.41.33 # XavierGr: Just delete your build directory and start again. 00.41.44 Quit BirdFish (Client Quit) 00.42.52 # Maybe the source code you are changing has an error - make -k would just continue and you may not spot the error message. 00.43.26 # I do make -k only the first time. 00.43.35 # then I simple make. 00.43.43 # and always displays 2 alac errors 00.44.16 # Why don't you want to start again with a clean build directory? Just to rule that out as a problem. 00.44.40 # very strange. I build again and those splashes still display the old text. You must think I am crazy! 00.45.32 # wait, 00.46.03 # we must think you are not doing clean builds 00.46.10 Join bagawk [0] (i=1000@unaffiliated/bagawk) 00.46.45 # well forget the splashes. It seems that I am crazy :P , but the problem with the strcmp remains. 00.46.58 # strcmp returns 0 if the strings are equal right? 00.47.09 # Yes. 00.47.17 # so !strcmp(buf,buf) == 1 00.48.00 # In theory. Try strncmp - maybe "buf" isn't zero-terminated. 00.48.20 # Forget that. They must be. 00.48.21 # grrrrrrr I am an asshole!!!!!! 00.48.26 # congratulations, then 00.48.46 # I am sitting 30 minutes know and I waste your and my time 00.49.06 # I had typed strcpy instead of strcmp!!!! 00.49.20 # ahahhaha 00.49.31 # nice one 00.49.51 # it's getting late and it seems my eyes are tricking me. 00.50.08 # at last 00.50.17 # now I will test the real code. 00.51.00 # In anticipation of XavierGr's patch - has anyone written a script to get all the presets from the Wiki page yet? 00.51.36 Nick TiMiD is now known as TiMiD[zzzZZ] (n=TiMiD[FD@asgard.valombre.net) 00.51.42 # good night ! 00.51.49 # bye! 00.52.11 # linuxstb: nope, but I set it up to make it reasonably easy 00.52.12 # a script to download all presets? 00.52.19 # and stop coding XavierGr, it will be better to do this tomorrow I think :p 00.52.53 # maybe you are right, I will test this and go to sleep. 01.00.39 # i bet the fact that the dither routine is called _per sample_ doesn't help in it being wildly inefficient 01.01.27 # and again, another case where both stereo streams should be done in one pass 01.02.52 # linuxstb: about your root-menu idea: maybe we can use the menu (a-b) button to always go to this menu and have a seperate 'settings' entry there. Or is this exactly what you planned? 01.03.22 # i'd guess so 01.05.38 # I like it. It's more intuitive to always use the same button the switch 'tasks' (unlike rockbox does now) 01.06.21 # .. to switch .. 01.08.39 # yes, i think i agree 01.08.46 # though i'd need to try it out to be certain 01.09.08 Join BirdFish [0] (n=bradbox8@64.108.5.134) 01.09.20 # The way I'm thinking of it working is that you don't launch the menu from Screen A, you exit Screen A, which then drops you back into the main. 01.10.18 # i.e. make it a proper menu that everything is launched from. 01.10.23 # But I'm still playing with it. 01.12.15 # linuxstb: you might want to switch to settings and then continue browsing where you left of.. If it's a proper menu this will take much more time. 01.14.16 # linuxstb: or make it both work: the menu is the root of all the items, but a-b jumps to the menu imediately. 01.14.37 # I think my approach will be to remove most of these shortcuts, so we have a sort-of stripped-down Rockbox - where everything is available via a menu, but not via shortcuts. We can then think about the best way to add them back in. 01.19.27 Join ]RowaN[ [0] (n=522bd434@labb.contactor.se) 01.20.05 # <]RowaN[> guys excuse my ignorance, what is the signifigance of the latest update "iRiver: Make it possible to build Rockbox using GCC 4.0.1." 01.20.19 Quit bagawk ("Leaving") 01.21.19 # Before that patch, Rockbox would only compile with gcc 3.4.x It will now compile with gcc 4.0.1 - the latest version. 01.22.14 # except, unsurprisingly, faad2 chokes :P 01.22.35 # faad2 chokes with everything. 01.23.29 # If you're still trying to fix ICE errors, one solution I found was to make sure that any arithmetic used either all signed values, or all unsigned values - never mixing them. 01.24.17 # 4.0.2 seems to solve the ICE issues 01.29.32 Quit matsl (herbert.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.29.32 NSplit herbert.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 01.29.32 Quit XavierGr (herbert.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.29.32 Quit solexx_ (herbert.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 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09.18.35 # Welcome back logbot. 09.20.59 Join webguest76 [0] (n=3e418ed5@labb.contactor.se) 09.21.04 # hi guys 09.21.20 # wanted to let you know, that twiki has another vulnerability 09.21.33 # see http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/64408 09.21.44 # or http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/SecurityAlertExecuteCommandsWithInclude 09.22.29 # i'm taking it down until examined 09.22.38 # thanks for the report 09.22.55 # announced publicly yday 09.23.32 # for some reason their mail list doesn't reach me. i'll try resubscribing. 09.26.07 # you're welcome 09.26.57 # Zagor; The site now looks like we've been hacked again :). 09.27.07 # yeah, but better safe than sorry 09.27.29 # Of course. 09.27.50 # I just got a nasty feeling of deja-vu when trying to access the Twiki... 09.27.57 # hehe 09.29.39 # Seems the bug was posted to the security list 2 weeks ago (14 Sept). 09.30.02 # yeps 09.30.20 # friendly user who posts it in public at once 09.30.21 # So we've been lucky this time. 09.32.15 # It seems the security list is private - it only allows the public to post, not to read. 09.32.20 # i hope we have a backup now anyways... 09.32.38 # nah, we proved we don't need backups! ;-P 09.32.45 # * B4gder ducks 09.32.49 # we're using a debian version which is heavily patch to avoid these holes happening, so it's not certain we're vulnerable at all. but I have to verify. 09.32.52 # Tell rasher that :) 09.33.00 # (we're NOW using :-)) 09.33.02 # google cache is our backup ! ;-) 09.33.15 # the google distributed backup system 09.34.40 # Hehehe 09.34.53 # I imagine you'll see that as a service one day 09.35.16 # Someone companies can hire to search google caches and other similar locations to restore wrecked websites with ineffective or also wrecked backups. 09.36.38 # :-D 09.40.56 # "invalid number argument at /usr/share/perl5/TWiki.pm line 3339." we're safe 09.41.57 # You tried the exploit with a harmless shell command, I'm guessing? 09.42.01 # yes 09.42.17 # Twiki just doesn't like me at all. 09.48.34 Nick Lynx_awy is now known as Lynx_ (n=lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 09.49.08 # puuh, sorry to stress you. we're lucky 09.52.02 # CU 09.52.04 Quit webguest76 ("CGI:IRC") 09.57.14 # Hrm... 09.57.21 # The voice acts REALLY funny on rockbox if you pause music. 09.57.36 # on the H120 09.58.00 # how so? 09.58.10 # If you pause the music, the voice doesn't play 09.58.18 # ah. 09.58.22 # Then, if you go back to the music and unpause, it plays the voice entry for the last thing you had highlighted 09.58.29 # :p 09.58.32 # fun bug 09.58.47 # If you do that a couple times, it seems to have some fun with the buffer, 'cuz I was getting some very PAINFUL noises in my ears when I went back to just playing music 09.58.54 # (By this point I'd turned voice menus off) 10.00.31 # That's what I get for deciding I wanted to hear a british accent on my player. 10.02.20 # :x 10.02.31 # * HCl looks around left and right 10.02.41 # where are the people that are supposed to be here :/ 10.02.44 # afk 10.04.17 # Y'know... using the remote feels so weird now. 10.04.45 # When it takes a few seconds to do something, like return to the filetree from wps, the slight vibration of the player let me know something was actually happening. The remote makes me nervous 10.15.45 # amiconn: You want to remove the 2-bit color support from iriver? 10.17.36 # markun: no 10.17.58 # he wants to change in internal format for the plugin grayscale library 10.18.53 # LinusN: Ah yes, I misread. 10.25.13 Quit ghode|afk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.27.56 Join k-man [0] (n=jason@unaffiliated/k-man) 10.28.02 # hello 10.28.14 # does rockbox run on any small flash players? or is it just for hdd players? 10.28.22 # archos gmini 10.28.26 # ondio 10.28.33 # i meant that :-) 10.28.38 # haha 10.31.00 # is the gmini hdd or flash? 10.31.15 # gmini is hdd, ondio is flash 10.31.38 # and rockbox doesn't run on the gmini 10.33.27 # ok 10.33.27 # thankjs 10.33.36 # does the ondio have a mic? 10.33.42 # can it record audio? 10.35.11 # the FM version can, I believe 10.35.20 # ah 10.35.21 # thanks 10.35.29 # its funny but our device chart doesn't seem to clearly mention this 10.35.42 # any idea where to get one in australia? 10.36.00 # do they still make the ondio? 10.36.11 # yes, yes, and no 10.36.29 # whre can i get one in Australia? 10.36.34 # oh.. but they don't make them any more 10.36.38 # ebay 10.37.10 # Yes, the Ondio FM has a mic. Yes it can record (from mic, fm and line in) 10.37.17 # No, it's no longer made 10.37.31 # damn! 10.37.34 # i need one 10.37.38 # hehe 10.37.45 # However, I was lucky to get a new one from a german webshop just one month ago 10.37.49 # i might have to buy one from the states 10.37.56 # oh... really 10.37.56 # Shrink-wrapped! 10.38.01 # what about off ebay? 10.38.27 # wow 10.38.32 # do you want to sell it? 10.39.28 # ;) 10.40.51 # *sigh* 10.41.14 # does rockbox work on any currently available flash based players? 10.42.31 # anway 10.42.34 # gtg 10.42.37 # thanks 10.42.38 # bye 10.42.39 Part k-man ("Client exiting") 11.01.34 Join Paul_The_Nerd_ [0] (n=paulthen@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 11.10.27 Nick Paul_The_Nerd_ is now known as DarkkOne (n=paulthen@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 11.12.32 Join DangerousDan [0] (n=Miranda@newtpulsifer.campus.luth.se) 11.13.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.19.38 Quit Paul_The_Nerd (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.26.19 # Is 70 UKP (104 EUR) a good price for an Ondio FM? http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?ARC-500324 11.26.30 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-123-227.VIC.netspace.net.au) 11.27.04 # Assuming they have stock, it seems quite widely available in UK webstores. 11.28.06 Join edx [0] (i=edx@131.111.131.156) 11.32.13 Join muesli- [0] (i=muesli_t@Bc136.b.pppool.de) 11.33.22 # linuxstb: Sounds like a reasonable price for an Ondio FM 11.33.46 # Ondio SP should of course be significantly cheaper 11.34.54 # amiconn query 11.39.23 # With the upcoming (??) PCM codec, what quality will the Ondio be able to record at? Is there enough bandwidth for CD-quality recording? 11.39.23 Quit muesli- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.40.00 # linuxstb: I can't tell yet, 'cause it's really tight 11.40.23 # So if we're lucky, we will get CD quality, but it may be less? 11.40.36 # CD quality means ~1.4 MBit/s 11.41.12 # The Ondio can write to 'disk' at 3 MBit/s, transfer uses DMA but we need to bitswap 11.41.40 # Then we need top read the MAS, transfer is parallel but can't use DMA 11.42.19 # So the MAS can output CD quality, and the problem will be to write it to disk fast enough? 11.42.47 # The problem is to read the data from the MAS and write it to disk in parallel, and that fast enough 11.42.49 Join ilikedirt [0] (n=ilikedir@i5387C365.versanet.de) 11.43.20 # OK. Is there going to be the same problem on the HD recorders? 11.43.39 # I also assume playback will give identical problems? 11.44.02 # HD recorders: Reading the MAS is the same, writing to disk is way faster and doesn't need bitswap 11.44.03 # playback uses dma 11.44.15 # LinusN: Yes, but it needs bitswap as well 11.44.19 # yes 11.44.32 # Presumably we could write the PCM data to disk without bitswapping? 11.44.49 # That's the 'fun' on Ondio, we actually bitswap all data twice for playback 11.45.11 # and on the HD models, we will bascially spin the disk non-stop... 11.45.21 # B4gder: Yes of course 11.45.35 # ...at least for higher quality PCM 11.45.53 # lunch! 11.46.21 # Is there any theoretical limit to the size of MMC card the Ondio can use? 11.46.36 # I didn't measure yet, but I think everything that would need to spin up more often than every 15 seconds is better off without spinning down at all 11.47.06 # linuxstb: Yes. The MMC protocol itself limits to 4 GB 11.47.18 # OK. 11.47.36 # New security hole in TWiki in case you don't know... http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/SecurityAlertExecuteCommandsWithInclude 11.48.30 # ilikedirt: we know. we're safe. 11.48.40 # ok ;) 11.49.03 # expected that... 11.53.34 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m50.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 11.57.45 # Oh, I mentioned an issue with the voice menus in here on iRiver, and I don't think people were around at the time. Is the "Pause doesn't let voice menus play either" a known issue? 11.59.08 # it is now :-) 11.59.32 # You'll find more description in the log, though I was under a different name 11.59.35 Nick DarkkOne is now known as Paul_the_Nerd (n=paulthen@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 11.59.45 # 09.57.21 # The voice acts REALLY funny on rockbox if you pause music. 11.59.49 # Yep 12.01.07 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=stephan@dsl-084-056-119-026.arcor-ip.net) 12.01.10 Part ilikedirt 12.01.34 # <_FireFly_> hello everybody 12.01.53 # Howdy 12.01.58 # Hello the remote guy :-) 12.02.05 # <_FireFly_> ;) 12.03.11 # what's new with your remote works? 12.03.44 # <_FireFly_> that thinks, that i have tested works for me great :) 12.04.43 # <_FireFly_> ups ui mean things 12.04.44 # hehe :-) 12.05.58 # FireFly: maybe one colaboration with Timid could be very bice 12.06.14 # <_FireFly_> a build based on daily-build-20050928 with my remote-patches and some others can be found here http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=25650&page=7 12.06.22 # 2 guys with 2 different ways :( 12.06.31 # ok 12.08.13 # <_FireFly_> i think my patches are only for the time till timid has the widget completet 12.08.57 # <_FireFly_> because with his widget system it will be easier to manage two or more displays 12.09.06 # true 12.09.14 Join grivell [0] (n=grivell@pcp05900009pcs.glst3401.nj.comcast.net) 12.09.24 # Until then, your patch has made some of us *very* happy. Heh. 12.09.34 # <_FireFly_> *g* 12.09.34 # Timid: you there? 12.10.25 # My 'box used to live in a lower pocket in cargo pants, but that wasn't really very effective with rockbox as it was. 12.12.58 Part grivell 12.14.37 Join Febs [0] (n=Febs@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 12.14.45 # <_FireFly_> currently my patchset is depending on my other patch which adds two wps-tags to enable/disable explicitly the statusbar 12.16.10 # <_FireFly_> while in wps 12.17.10 # I rather like that idea. 12.17.48 # How hard would it be for someone to implement a font override patch? 12.19.38 # <_FireFly_> it shouldn't be so hard it must be a seperate font-struct 12.19.52 # Especially once displaying to two screens with two different WPS' is enabled, I can imagine a lot of people wanting to set their remote to a different font than their main screen. 12.20.19 # <_FireFly_> which represents the font which should be displayed on the remote 12.20.24 # yes it will 12.20.28 # <_FireFly_> or in the wps 12.23.17 Join preglow [0] (n=thomjoha@hekta.edt.aft.hist.no) 12.24.31 # I'd say we'll add multifont support in general for devices with more memory than the archos ones. so the a single WPS can use multiple fonts etc. 12.24.58 # That could actually be pretty useful for other purposes too. 12.25.18 # Though, not so much with image loading. 12.25.22 # like the mozilla plugin for instance :-) 12.25.27 # Hehehe 12.25.52 # Right, someone should just make a quick, light, and fully functional XHTML1.1/CSS2 rendering engine. 12.26.20 # And then use that for WPS 12.26.23 # :-P 12.26.33 # flash! flash! 12.26.50 # Hahaha 12.27.02 # Y'know, actually a .swf plugin would rock my world. 12.27.05 # SBemails to go. 12.27.19 # <_FireFly_> :) 12.32.24 # <_FireFly_> ok guys i will leave you for a short while 12.33.06 # When you return bring cookies! 12.33.23 # <_FireFly_> when i found some :) 12.33.51 Quit _FireFly_ ("Client exiting") 12.34.29 Join webguest72 [0] (n=8372f03e@labb.contactor.se) 12.34.51 Part webguest72 12.36.14 # XD 12.36.15 # http://www.divx.com/anniversaryoffer/ 12.36.19 # free divx pro codec 12.36.22 # today only 12.36.37 # unlimited license 12.37.29 # Neat 12.37.46 # * Paul_the_Nerd uses Xvid, generally. 12.37.54 # still 12.37.57 # its pretty sweet 12.38.00 # Yeah 12.38.02 # to have an divx pro codec 12.38.05 # license 12.38.07 # I downloaded for archival purposes 12.38.18 # well, the download isn't whats important 12.38.22 # its the serial you get sent by email 12.38.34 # Yeah 12.38.41 # How long did yours take to mail? 12.38.46 # i'm still waiting :S 12.38.58 # Aaah 12.39.00 # Okay 12.39.10 # i entered my email 12.39.12 # my spam email 12.39.14 # I did too. 12.39.17 # and the emails of two friends 12.39.21 # cause they want it too 12.39.22 # Hehehe 12.39.28 # I just gave it my spam email 12.39.34 # No way it's getting my humans-only email 12.39.39 # Maybe... my other spam email 12.39.54 # "Last Saturday, we had our fifth year anniversary celebration for DivX. While we were all getting toasted on champagne, somebody - we can't quite remember who - thought it would be a great idea to give away our software for free. Our web store manager was the only one who didn't exactly love the idea, and eventually he'll be probably be able to untie himself and break out of the storage locker" 12.40.00 # i love that 12.40.02 # XD 12.40.06 Join ilikedirt [0] (n=ilikedir@i5387C365.versanet.de) 12.41.38 # Hehehe 12.41.49 # can't possibly see when i'd use that, so think i'll decline 12.43.10 # who cares, its a free license 12.43.37 # Didn't they also have a DivxPro ad-supported form? 12.43.56 # i don't care about free licenses i'll never use 12.44.30 # My statement begins with your "I can't possible see when I'd use that" but ends with "but I cannot definitively say I will NEVER have cause to" 12.45.32 # * Paul_the_Nerd wonders if he has an email address with his ISP. 12.45.57 # think i'll go xvid if i will ever need anything encoded anyway 12.45.58 # now, lunch 12.49.46 # i use xvid for dvb encoding 12.50.59 Join webguest95 [0] (n=d5ee43bc@labb.contactor.se) 12.51.40 Part ilikedirt 12.52.41 # Hi; got a question: will it be possible to implement a metronome feature on iRiver iHP series? 12.52.49 # yes 12.52.53 # whats metronome 12.53.02 # thanks Linus 12.53.03 # Isn't there already a patch for it out there? 12.53.22 # Yes, there is 12.53.28 # I have it on mine 12.53.58 # http://rasher.dk/rockbox/ <--- Rasher's got a rather nice precompiled build here, with some fun patches. 12.55.24 # HCl: the box on the piano that goes 'tick tick tick tick' 12.58.22 # what tone does the archos metronome generate, btw? 12.58.29 # a saw wave 12.58.33 # ohhh 12.58.34 # right 12.58.35 # no 12.58.39 # sorry 12.58.42 # a "tock" 12.58.50 # from a real metronome, i believe 12.59.05 # ahh 12.59.17 # perhaps we should just sample that as well 12.59.20 # iriver, that is 12.59.35 # decode the mp3 snippet from the archos metronome.c 12.59.45 # that's just one mp3 frame, yes? 12.59.50 # think so 13.00.12 # OR someone could make a codec interface to the plugins :-) 13.00.26 # hehehe 13.00.33 # * LinusN looks for "someone" 13.00.42 # He's not in here often. 13.00.57 # elusive chap 13.01.06 *** Server message 505: 'logbot :Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )' 13.01.25 # Aye 13.01.57 # tea-time! 13.03.48 # What would be really cool would be a metronome that has features like the product called "Dr. Beat." 13.04.10 # Dr. Beat allows subdividing of measures with emphasis on certain beats. 13.04.27 # sounds simple 13.04.27 # E.g., TICK tock tock tock TICK tock tock tock. 13.05.58 # * Febs hates practicing with Dr. Beat. 13.06.08 # But it is a very effective tool for a musician. 13.06.20 # Why do you hate practicing with it? 13.07.48 # It's not so band for individual practice, but we use it occasionally at my band's rehearsals, and it has to be set pretty loud to be audible above the band. 13.08.06 # Aaaah 13.08.12 Join someone_ [0] (n=3e088e42@labb.contactor.se) 13.08.44 # Wow... 13.08.53 # And perhaps "hate" is a strong word. Any metronome exposes weaknesses that you didn't know you had! 13.09.09 # It's a great tool, but can bring you down a notch! 13.09.22 # I really need to learn an instrument 13.09.49 # If you really want to learn an instrument, start with piano. 13.09.57 # * someone_ looks for LinusN 13.09.58 # I've actually done that. 13.10.08 # :-) 13.10.34 # It was ages ago, so it's a little fuzzy, but I still have a halfway solid memory, it'd just be a matter of getting back into practice 13.12.08 # LinusN, any progress on the H300 bootloader? (Just wondering if there is anything I need to update on the IriverFAQ.) 13.13.02 # no 13.13.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.20.03 # LinusN: i am currently trying to use fat_opendir and fat_readdir instead of opendir and readdir to allow much faster directory tree scanning on bootup. Maybe we could disable the option to skip the cache rebuilding until we find a way to implement proper solution for that bootloader usb mode problem? 13.20.44 # How long does scanning take? 13.20.57 # Like, on the high end, how long might it be likely to take? 13.21.14 # few seconds depending on how much files there are (it's transparent process but eats battery) 13.21.24 # Ah 13.22.05 # i think that using fat_opendir directly should allow much faster scanning (still haven't get far enough to test for real) 13.22.06 # with "few" being more than 10, right? 13.22.31 # B4gder: with thousands of files that something like that is possible 13.22.40 # -that 13.23.09 # Slasheri: yes, i think it's acceptable for those who decide to use the cache to have to wait for the scan 13.23.10 # I have 6000+ files 13.23.19 # LinusN: ok, sounds good 13.23.36 # I was gonna say, since it's an optional thing, it's an opt-in. 13.23.58 # LinusN: i think that setting some value to some ram address when leaving bootloader usb mode could be a clean and working solution also 13.23.59 # I would personally prefer a cache that caches what I browse 13.24.02 # without prescan 13.24.16 # I'd hate to prescan 13.24.16 # Slasheri: yes 13.24.16 # but that leaves there still the problem if user goes to iriver firmware 13.24.20 # so I'll never use it 13.25.55 # using fat_opendir() should give a substantial boost 13.26.05 # how come? 13.26.16 # because of the way opendir() works 13.26.21 # Slasheri: the Rockbox user never use iriver fw :D 13.26.31 # it calls fat_opendir() for each component in the path 13.26.40 # aha 13.26.44 # Moos: hehe, hopefully after we have implemented full recording support 13.26.54 # true :) 13.26.56 # and WMA playback... :-) 13.26.58 # B4gder: I suggested that type of lazy caching two days ago or so 13.27.02 # i think some recording things are coming next on my commits 13.27.30 # I wouldn't set aside an extra area, the caching would work for the file browser only, and use its dir buffer 13.27.37 # ...as an lru cache 13.27.55 # That could work on archos too, because it doesn't need extra ram 13.28.25 # B4gder: reriped my WMA song here ;-) 13.28.35 # ;-) 13.28.48 Quit webguest95 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 13.29.35 # B4gder: It should be rather straightforward to implement, once we have memmove() 13.30.16 # but I guess Slasheri doesn't like that approach 13.30.57 # B4gder: i haven't said that i wouldn't like it but it still would annoy users more than using a full caching system 13.31.20 # I have a question: 13.31.25 # Why not simply do this? 13.31.27 # maybe we could implement both and let users decide what they want to use 13.31.33 # You can check how much space is used/free on the HD no? 13.31.40 # If that value has changed since the last shutdown, recache? 13.31.41 # B4gder: In fact both cache systems can happily coexist 13.31.46 # yes 13.31.54 # would just be more code 13.32.04 # ...with the lazy browser cache always enabled, and the additional full cache on H1x0 13.32.05 Join Nibbler [0] (n=sven@port-212-202-78-23.dynamic.qsc.de) 13.32.50 # The browser cache would just make better use of the dir buffer. Most dirs are way smaller than the set maximum 13.32.53 # I don't think the lazy cache would annoy people more than the prescan cache will 13.34.13 # B4gder: user doesn't have to wait for the scanning to complete because it's transparent. Only negative thing is that it can eat battery 13.34.31 # yes, and people will wonder what the heck their player is doing with their disk 13.34.37 # so the prescan caching while enabled shouldn't directly annoy user 13.35.21 # "shouldn't" being the keyword 13.35.32 # Slasheri: any reason why the above wouldn't be useful as a means of checking for changes via iRiver firmware? 13.35.56 # Paul_the_Nerd: because the check is very slow 13.36.08 # so if that check must be done on every boot, it'll be a pain 13.36.09 # Ah 13.36.12 Join webguest78 [0] (n=c2489e63@labb.contactor.se) 13.36.18 # Paul_the_Nerd: that needs rescanning the disk 13.36.34 # Paul_the_Nerd: ...because windows doesn't update the free info fields properly 13.36.39 # so it could take about the same time as building the cache 13.36.43 # Gotcha 13.36.59 # Paul_the_Nerd: In addition, the fact that free space change means disk content has changed is true, but the reverse is not necessarily true 13.37.02 # slasheri: could your cache be used as the basis of a "random" playlist... just thinking ahead 13.37.08 # True amiconn 13.37.52 # ...e.g. if I just rename a file 13.37.59 # webguest78: Hmm, what do you mean with that? At least it should be possible to create root playlist much faster if cache is enabled (i am not 100% sure but will find out) 13.38.08 # Can you rename in iRiver though? 13.38.13 # * Paul_the_Nerd doesn't remember being able to. 13.38.24 # Paul_the_Nerd: no you can't 13.38.37 # iriver allows only delete 13.38.38 # The only way I can imagine doing it with the iRiver firmware is recording a song the exact size on disk of one you've deleted. 13.38.49 # you can rename while USB-connected with the iriver fw 13.38.56 # Ah 13.39.15 # i had some ideas about a random function that randomly selected new tracks (from anywhere under a specified root) and added them to the current playlist when it was "nearly empty" 13.39.35 Join ilikedirt [0] (n=ilikedir@i5387C365.versanet.de) 13.39.36 # but if you have lots of files - the random selction could be lengthy 13.39.43 Part ilikedirt 13.39.48 # I think ideally what you'd have webguest, was a random playback mode. 13.40.08 # that's what I'm after Paul_the_nerd 13.40.08 # Where instead of shuffling the list, it picks a random number from 1 to the total number of entries in the playlist, and plays that song, then picks another number. 13.40.18 # So it'd work with any normally created playlists. 13.40.21 # why is that better than shuffle? 13.40.31 # I'm not saying it's better 13.40.35 # well except I'd like to do it without having to create a playlist of all content first 13.40.43 # webguest78: ah, that's interesting. I think we can do many nice things after the track score database is stable 13.40.45 # it would be a lot worse, since it would repeat songs 13.40.52 # But there's a clear desire for a random method where there's not a once per runthrough limit 13.41.02 # Too much ipod shuffle corruption 13.41.03 # there is? 13.41.11 # Yeah 13.41.14 # I understand random would repeat songs and that's fine and expected 13.41.17 # It's all over the mistic river forums 13.41.24 # with 5000 tracks that not a problem for me 13.41.26 # why does anyone want random to play the same track twice before the rest are played? 13.41.26 # The people who still talk about how rockbox's shuffle isn't true random 13.41.29 # I tend to ignore the insane people ;-) 13.41.38 # they are totally wrong 13.41.42 # Hehehe 13.41.44 # :) 13.41.51 # Hey, I'm not advocating it. 13.41.54 # "true random" doesn't exist 13.41.59 # Okay, not true random 13.42.02 # at least not for us 13.42.04 # "Effectively simulated random" 13.42.17 # yes, but then what is "random" by definition? 13.42.24 # Zagor: with a huge playlist i definately wouldn't want the random to play the "worse" songs at all 13.42.44 # because I 'm not bothered about playing all tracks - just something unexpected next for my commute listening 13.42.47 # A method by which at any given point the odds of any valid song being the next song are equal, and independent of the previous song. 13.42.52 # Slasheri: that has nothing to do with the random/shuffle feature. that's a score filter. 13.42.53 # but playing best songs more often would be nice (but that requires the score db working) 13.42.58 # yes, true.. 13.43.06 # Valid song being defined as "any song in the current playlist" 13.43.14 # Paul_the_Nerd: but that's lousy! 13.43.20 # Aye 13.43.21 # I doubt many users want that 13.43.35 # * Paul_the_Nerd shrugs. 13.43.39 # we've spent much work to AVOID just that 13.43.56 # and that's also why we call it shuffle 13.44.00 # Yeah 13.44.07 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=d57b9aa9@labb.contactor.se) 13.44.12 # As I said, it's not something I'd likely use. 13.44.18 # I know RB is diff from iriver - but I liked the iriver "shuffle all" mode - "random songs" if you turned it off it carried on playing from that song 13.44.33 # You can do that with RB webguest 13.44.38 # like rockbox 13.44.43 # so if you found a track you thought Ah! to you could turn of random and listen to the rest of the album 13.44.55 # Oh, turned off random. 13.44.58 # yes 13.45.14 # I do that in rockbox all the time 13.45.18 # that works in rockbox 13.45.21 Join paugh [0] (n=kickback@2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:8000:0:3e03:6822) 13.45.24 # Paul_the_Nerd: not without re-creating an all tracks playlist everytime you change the DAP content 13.45.40 # webguest78: which, of course, is exactly how iriver does it 13.45.41 # well, that's how the iriver fw does 13.45.45 # oh my god, the new misticriver forum style looks horrible 13.45.58 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A4529B.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.46.00 # crwl: you can change to an almost-like-before look 13.46.10 # but i'd need to register for that, right? 13.46.14 # Yes. 13.46.17 # webguest78: never wondered why the iriver firmware takes so long to boot? 13.46.43 # <_FireFly_> hiho erverybody 13.46.50 # b4dger, do you know if there is a stripped-down "print mode" or something like in many forums? 13.46.58 # no idea 13.47.10 # such things should be done by css... 13.47.10 # crwl, as far as I know, there is not. 13.47.19 # with all stupid avatars and huge .sigs removed 13.47.21 # ;-) I get by - I just find having to remember to update the all_tracks playlist annoying 13.47.32 # crwl: you can opt away them 13.48.14 # Yes, but now that the bloated "upgraded" design creates a shrine for every single post, opting not to show signatures actually doesn't save that much screen space. 13.48.27 # uh 13.48.38 # so i was thinking about actually trying to do a patch for me... that's all - no intention of disrupting the RB philosophy 13.48.52 # does anyone (who has used usenet) really like any web forum? 13.49.12 Quit webguest78 ("CGI:IRC") 13.49.15 # only people with lousy email clients like forums 13.50.03 # people with no email clients, i suppose 13.50.15 # people of the webmail era 13.50.23 # yes 13.50.31 # youngsters! 13.50.38 # I don't mind the basic V-bulletin forum, but I can't stand huge graphic signatures. 13.50.38 # ;-) 13.50.50 # Hey, don't lump me in with them B4gder! 13.50.53 # haha 13.50.59 # I remember dialing up to BBSes with a 300 baud modem! 13.51.01 # * Paul_the_Nerd is a youngster, he hopes. 13.51.08 # * B4gder starts talking about the good old days 13.51.22 # "The SysOp is IN." 13.51.24 # My first internet experience was at 2400 baud, but I was in Indonesia, so it was a little below standard for the time. 13.51.30 # Welcome, crwl. 13.51.30 # You last visited: September 6th, 2004 13.51.36 # i actually have registered there, it seems 13.52.48 # Actually, wait. 13.52.53 # Compuserve... back before that 13.53.10 # i still use 1200 baud amateur packet radio ;) 13.53.19 # I remember my mail address wouldn't really be considered human-readable by modern standards for what that means. 13.53.23 # * Zagor had fidonet 2:201/328 & 329 13.53.52 # dual nodes, man! can you say "mega cool"? 13.53.56 # "the iRiver firmware gives a far superior sound, better stereo imaging and deeper bass being the most obvious differences" heh 13.54.20 # yes, everyone on the forums know a lot of facts 13.54.26 # :---) 13.54.52 # All I know is Rockbox sounds better to me. Of course, now my CDs are encoded to lossless .wv, until I start running out of space. 13.54.54 # crwl: I bet he's the type who runs max bass and some wacko SRS junk 13.55.12 # * Paul_the_Nerd also has cheap headphones from Radioshack. 13.55.39 # That were oddly featured on MP3.com. 14.00.42 # "recreating the iriver sound" wtf 14.04.39 # double blind tests, please 14.04.45 # and i might start to believe it 14.05.15 # would be very fun if someone bothered to do a couple of those 14.05.38 # What would you like them to test though. Just the difference in sound between iRiver with no equalizer settings and RB with none? 14.07.25 # just pure flat sound 14.07.37 # and different codecs 14.07.42 # at max volume 14.10.58 # What's the point of wireless headphones if the cable's too short to sit the player any decent distance from the wet location? 14.15.14 Join webguest95 [0] (n=d5ee4898@labb.contactor.se) 14.22.41 Quit Febs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.29.07 # Is http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/SecurityAlertExecuteCommandsWithInclude already known? 14.29.08 Quit gromit` (Remote closed the connection) 14.29.13 # yes 14.29.24 # we're not vulnerable 14.29.32 # phew 14.30.07 Join Reboot_me [0] (n=os@83.72.201.180.ip.tele2adsl.dk) 14.30.15 # wrong version? 14.30.38 # our version is fixed 14.30.46 # * LinusN goes to reboot 83.72.201.180 14.31.01 # " It's only slightly thicker than an iPod, looks like something Darth Vader would use," I like this description of the H120 (I'm assuming they had a black one) 14.31.29 Join gromit` [0] (n=gromit`@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 14.32.08 Quit B4gder ("time to say moo") 14.32.15 # Hi. I have a small question, this is not about Rockbox but about iHP-120 firmware. i want to run Rockbox but I currently have a problem with 1.63E. I cannot upgrade the firmware, the player just show "upgrading firmware" and then it shuts down. tried everything... Is the way to go a BDM cable? 14.32.40 # FEF? 14.33.04 # sorry FAF 14.33.11 # ? 14.33.21 # on mistic river 14.33.28 # yes 14.33.51 # Reboot_me: are you sure you have put the right ihp_120.hex to the iriver root? 14.34.14 # how long does it display the upgrading firmware screen? 14.34.19 # yes, tried allllot of different versions etc. but it simply cannot upgrade 14.34.24 # 5-6 sec. 14.34.30 # ah, that's not normal :/ 14.34.33 # that's short 14.34.46 # cannot change language aswell.. 14.35.08 # must be a faulty upgrade, the last one. but it works.. 14.35.23 # try checking the disk 14.35.36 # was there any problems with the previous update? 14.35.40 # no error on the disk, reformat ok. 14.36.13 # well "originally" there wasnt, but i think I can remember 1. faulty upgrade. 14.36.31 # i think the bdm could be easiest way to go if you have a corrupt flash 14.36.39 # Reboot_me: i think i can help you 14.36.43 # thought so. 14.36.45 # how it became faulty? 14.37.09 # well, must have been something with the battery, even though I used the powersupply... 14.37.19 # ah, ok :/ 14.37.21 # Slasheri: interleaved dsp code is most definitely buggy, i think 14.37.32 # preglow: that's very possible 14.37.49 # no-one has tested it 14.37.52 # Slasheri: i dump the data i write pcmbuf_insert to the disk, and there the right channel is ok 14.37.59 # Reboot_me: email me linus at haxx.se 14.38.00 # on the player it sounds like crap 14.38.05 # where crap sounds like white noise 14.38.11 # ok, thx 14.38.22 # preglow: no, it's "a bag of shit" 14.38.31 # LinusN: ahh, that's the correct term, sorry 14.38.46 # according to some BR member 14.38.50 # MR 14.39.11 # yeah, i've read that thread... 14.39.25 # white noise...hm then it's rather "a bag of ssssshhhhttt" 14.40.15 Join muesli- [0] (i=muesli_t@Bbc88.b.pppool.de) 14.40.43 # re 14.40.44 # so in my case he's almost right! 14.41.41 # :-) 14.43.01 # * someone_ is going away again, as it seems I'm not needed ;) 14.43.06 Quit someone_ ("CGI:IRC") 14.44.05 Quit Zagor (Remote closed the connection) 14.44.17 # the problem is that musepacks output now suddenly has started sounding very poor 14.44.20 # i wonder why 14.44.29 # preglow: Doesn't the wav codec use interleaved? 14.44.30 Join Zagor [0] (i=foobar@h63n1fls31o265.telia.com) 14.45.19 # amiconn: yes, it certainly seems that is true 14.45.44 # Slasheri: is DSP_SET_SAMPLE_RATE meant to take either 16 or 32 as a value? 14.45.51 # ehh 14.45.53 # sorry 14.45.59 # DSP_SET_SAMPLE_DEPTH 14.46.21 # Hmm, just a moment 14.46.33 # 'cause right now i'm passing it the actual number of bits musepack uses (30) 14.46.49 # i thought that value was used to figure out how much to shift the signal down 14.47.07 # it can take values between 16 and 32 14.47.20 # and that affects how the dsp scales the samples 14.47.24 # yes, seemed so to me as well 14.52.16 # but it's true as amiconn says, wav codec does of course use interleaved samples 14.52.24 # and i assume that's been tested before commiting 14.53.41 # then i wonder why the output to disk is different than what i hear :/ 14.59.36 # Hmm.. 14.59.55 # LinusN: I have seen your chat :) 15.00.27 # :-) 15.03.04 # preglow: but i doubt any wav file has > 16 bit sample rate with interleaved stereo (and that is untested) :) 15.03.16 # argh, sample depth :D 15.03.22 # well, i saw a case for it in wav.c 15.03.29 # but it might not have been tested, of course 15.10.29 # IIRC, until the recent WAV patch was committed, the WAV codec aborted if the sampledepth wasn't 16-bit. 15.11.26 # I'll try a 24-bit wav in a minute. 15.11.26 Quit Paul_the_Nerd ("Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.7/20050915]") 15.12.26 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 15.13.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.17.13 # Sounds fine. 15.19.19 # wv2wav doesn't like the file though.. 15.20.05 # no wonder, since it is a wav and not wv? 15.20.14 # wav2wv of course :) 15.21.55 # Ah: "if ( ... native_header.BitsPerSample != 16 ... rb->splash(HZ*2, true, "incompatible wav file!"); ..." 15.24.20 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 15.29.58 Part LinusN 15.45.37 # wav2wv has very rudimentary support for wavs 15.45.57 # it's meant to eat data straight from the adc, and i expect it'll be able to handle those formats very well 15.46.42 # thank you all for your help.... 15.46.44 # cya 15.47.04 Part Reboot_me 15.57.44 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=d57b9aa9@labb.contactor.se) 15.58.37 Nick pabs is now known as koude1ka (n=pabs@xor.pablotron.org) 15.59.04 Nick koude1ka is now known as pabs (n=pabs@xor.pablotron.org) 15.59.06 # It would be nice if wav2wv and the wav codec would share some code.. 16.01.51 # markun: wav2wv is just a temporary "proof of concept" plugin. We need a proper recording API for codecs, and (probably) the ability for plugins to access the codecs for both encoding and decoding functions. 16.02.34 Join goa [0] (i=hd@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 16.02.40 # ok, than I'll not bother with fixing it now. 16.03.21 # It wouldn't hurt to fix it though. "proper" recording and encoding could be a long time in coming. 16.04.10 # It would be interesting to see how fast it could encode 24-bit/96KHz WAV files on the iriver. 16.09.28 # not realtime... 16.09.59 # I only have a 24-bit/44.1kHz file right now. 16.12.22 Join rasher [0] (n=jonas@62.79.64.148.adsl.hs.tiscali.dk) 16.19.46 Quit muesli- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.20.17 Join muesli- [0] (i=muesli_t@Bc1f2.b.pppool.de) 16.30.26 # linuxstb_: This doesn't look right in wav2wv, or does it?: config.bytes_per_sample = native_header.NumChannels; 16.31.48 Quit Lynx_ (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The dawn of a new IRC era") 16.49.01 # markun: I can't see that line in my copy of wav2wv.c 16.49.55 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@host213-123-154-169.in-addr.btopenworld.com) 16.50.58 Join LinuxMad [0] (n=LinuxMad@81.8.216.39) 16.51.18 # Hey guys, i just wanted to make sure if Rockbox support Archos 700 16.51.33 # not yet :-) 16.52.46 # naaaw, so there aint any possibillity atm to get Rockbox on a Archos 700? even if it would be unstable? 16.53.28 # Unlikely 16.53.43 # Is it a multimedia thing? 16.54.11 # Ah, it is. No way in hell, pretty much. 16.54.27 # Unless you're up for doing the port? 16.59.23 Quit LinuxMad (Client Quit) 17.01.38 # <_FireFly_> oh that was a short enjoyment :) 17.01.56 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 17.08.24 # wow 17.08.34 # that archos price is 779 euro... 17.13.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.15.02 # CoCoLUS: It's the equivalent of about 570 EUR here: http://www.steelcube.com/acatalog/AR_AV700.html?campaign=adwords 17.15.08 # But still not cheap. 17.15.25 # thats the 40 gb version 17.15.30 # i was talking about the 100 gb version :) 17.15.46 # Ah :) 17.19.19 Join einhirn [0] (i=Miranda@szgt-d9b8e94c.pool.mediaWays.net) 17.19.27 # <_FireFly_> and it seems that it has an embedded windows running 17.24.21 Join dpassen1 [0] (n=dpassen1@resnet-233-61.resnet.umbc.edu) 17.32.55 Join ]RowaN[ [0] (n=5688b809@labb.contactor.se) 17.33.06 # <]RowaN[> what version of GCC are the daily builds made with? 17.33.48 # Depends 17.34.00 # Which player? 17.34.02 # m68k-elf-gcc (GCC) 3.4.1 17.34.15 # <]RowaN[> iriver 17.37.22 Join koniu_ [0] (n=koniu@host-ip194-145.crowley.pl) 17.48.22 # <]RowaN[> compiling with a newer version of gcc might give smaller/better binaries? 17.49.25 # Unlikely to be smaller 17.49.29 # Possibly faster 17.49.39 # Possibly hilariously broken. 17.49.51 Part koniu_ 17.54.00 Join ghode|afk [0] (n=garudin@host-83-146-62-103.bulldogdsl.com) 17.54.24 Join stevenm [0] (n=stevenm@176-42.mam.umd.edu) 17.54.32 # Hello guys.. long time no see 17.54.54 # When Rockbox is built, what optimization level is used? -O2 ? 17.57.27 Join cejay [0] (n=cj@c-24-98-227-207.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 17.57.30 # don't know... 17.57.33 # check the makefile? 17.57.41 # (Apparently my CS professor married her partner with whom they did inline ASM for a C class 17.57.42 # -O by default 17.57.51 # with some codecs/etc having different levels 17.58.02 # i have a recorder v2.. nonFM model.. and rockbox2.5 is there any info on how to use DATABOX? 17.58.12 # stevenm: hm? 17.58.34 # t0mas, I wonder if MIDI will run faster on target if it's built with -O2 or -O3 17.58.44 # you can try? 17.58.45 # also do i have to apply rombox or bootbox with 2.5 or is it all automatic 17.58.49 # change the makefile for the codec 17.59.04 # t0mas, I don't really have a Makefile for it. It's in SOURCES 17.59.05 # and make the default ccflags -O2 17.59.07 # or 3 17.59.14 # ah ok 17.59.19 # t0mas, neither do I have a target here 17.59.22 # then you can compile it by hand? 17.59.25 # need rasher for that 17.59.41 # t0mas, ah, by hand. that would work 17.59.44 # thanks 17.59.49 # well... I'm a bit busy... 17.59.51 # sorry.. i butted in.. anyone avail for priv chat on databox help? 17.59.57 # beware, high optimisation levels on m68k can be buggy 17.59.58 # erm 18.00.01 # you should ask HCl 18.00.06 # (at cejay) 18.00.08 # t0mas, that's alright, i'm in class too.. I was wondering about later 18.00.09 # he has written it 18.00.16 # ok..thnx 18.00.24 # stevenm: I'm doing a "security audit" aka legal cracking :P 18.00.29 # it just hit me that MIDI was never compiled w/ any optimization 18.00.35 # t0mas, woah, cool 18.00.38 # yeah 18.00.43 # is midi the stuff in apps/plugins/midi rather than being a codec? 18.00.50 # fuzzie, yes 18.02.05 Quit cejay (Client Quit) 18.02.07 # stevenm: check this... 18.02.11 # my scan from yesterday 18.02.12 # http://pastebin.ca/24199 18.02.24 # <]RowaN[> midi didnt produce an output file or sound last time i tried 18.02.43 # ]RowaN[, I know. That's fine 18.02.46 # and 135 + 445 is my ISP, they blocked it since the blaster problems :) 18.02.57 # MIDI is a plugin, not a codec. I had it write a WAV file but then that was removed from the libs 18.03.15 # I am waiting for the DSP functions to be added to the Plugin API and then I will make it output sound 18.03.32 # It actually synthesizes the samples, etc, just doesn't write them anywhere 18.03.34 # <]RowaN[> sweet =] 18.03.55 # ]RowaN[, it was 78% realtime last time we checked, but maybe if I specify some GCC optimization, that will go up 18.04.15 # t0mas, that's a decent number of ports 18.04.50 # why not have it as a codec? 18.05.06 # fuzzie, Linus wanted to keep it a plugin for now 18.05.24 # midi isn't quite like MP3, seeking is different, it loads the whole song at once, etc 18.05.52 # a lot of 'codec' specific things don't apply to playing MIDI 18.10.22 # but yea, i'll try the -O3 later, after class etc 18.13.04 Quit ]RowaN[ ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 18.13.10 Quit Moos ("Glory to Rockbox") 18.20.12 # stevenm: Are you making use of IRAM? 18.27.17 # linuxstb__, yes 18.27.40 # linuxstb__, although 30 megs of the stuff would be cool too 18.31.20 Part stevenm (""Connection reset by beer"") 18.38.28 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ipa230.3.tellas.gr) 18.48.31 Quit muesli- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.56.39 Quit rasher ("leaving") 19.03.53 Quit linuxstb__ ("Client Exiting") 19.13.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.16.39 Quit edx () 19.26.10 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp14-adsl-245.ath.forthnet.gr) 19.30.58 # stevenm: for the logs: all codecs i've tried have benefited from O2 19.31.14 # stevenm: i don't think i'd recommend O3 for most things 19.31.35 Quit paugh ("Leaving") 19.34.47 # [18:32] linuxstb__, although 30 megs of the stuff would be cool too <-- and pricy ;) 19.37.16 # not much to use iram for in midi, i'm afraid 19.37.19 # all the sample structs, i guess 19.37.22 # but that's more or less that 19.40.42 # <_FireFly_> by wavpack files pause doesn't work 19.41.06 # <_FireFly_> the sound goes shortly off but comes on back 19.46.35 # hah 19.46.38 # i've never noticed that 19.46.49 # it never stops at all here 19.47.09 # now why the hell does that happen 19.48.21 # <_FireFly_> ;) 19.48.22 # it's not up to the codec to decide whether it pauses 19.48.29 # so i can't imagine why it fails 19.48.46 # * preglow suspects 19.49.25 # only possible explanation i can think of, is that it never yields 19.49.28 # <_FireFly_> it seems that palying ist stopped but after few seconds(max 2 secs) the playback is startet again 19.49.31 # but there are tons of yields in it 19.49.36 # it doesn't stop at all here 19.49.50 # <_FireFly_> maybe that a flag gets overwritten 19.50.13 # <_FireFly_> the flag that causes normaly pause the playback 19.50.24 # <_FireFly_> ?? 19.50.28 # hmm 19.50.37 # i don't see how that can happen 19.50.44 # i think i'll try to rewrite the wavpack plugin 19.50.53 # to let rockbox do its own converting 19.52.17 # why does rockbox has the ability to remember only files that are on the .rockbox directory? 19.52.40 # <_FireFly_> ?? 19.52.41 # I mean I know why. They decided to have in the configuration only 20 letters for the last file 19.52.59 # I mean when loading fonts languages or wps screens 19.54.33 # but why not make a full variable for the files? Is that so cost effective? 19.54.52 # Currently rockbox supports 4 or 5 files for that. 19.55.22 # currently they take 20 * 5 = 100 bytes 19.56.00 # if we make 5 new configuration variable it would be 5 * 260 (max filename) = 1300 bytes 19.56.45 # and then every file that must be remembered in the next boot up will be remembered in any folder. 19.57.49 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 20.01.18 Join rasher [0] (n=jonas@83.72.66.7.ip.tele2adsl.dk) 20.02.29 # hi linuxstb hi rasher 20.02.44 # <_FireFly_> preglow after decomment the pcm_play_pause call in playback.c:1680 (case AUDIO_PAUSE) pausing a wavpack playback works 20.03.00 # <_FireFly_> this call was comment out 20.03.29 # <_FireFly_> to pretend a loop inside the pcm buffer 20.03.55 # <_FireFly_> so it says the comment why this call was comment out 20.08.21 Join webguest43 [0] (n=53a0b6c0@labb.contactor.se) 20.08.27 # well, strange 20.08.33 # ask slasheri :) 20.08.52 # <_FireFly_> slasheri ?? do you here ?? 20.10.57 Quit webguest43 (Client Quit) 20.11.18 # _FireFly_: Hmm, yes. It's possible a loop occurs inside the pcm buffer preventing voice code from working when paused it that line is commented out (however, the voice codec currently still doesn't work when paused but that's an another issue) 20.11.18 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.11.49 # *codec and *if 20.12.25 # but why the hell is wavpack the only codec triggering this 20.13.34 # does anyone know how to detect if the FM radio is active or idle? 20.14.17 # ah, maybe wavpack doesn't use the dsp 20.14.25 # that might be the issue 20.15.23 # found it radio_get_status in power.c 20.15.51 # have to go later all 20.15.53 Quit XavierGr () 20.15.55 # Slasheri: if you ask me, it's time to enable dsp for all codecs 20.16.06 # <_FireFly_> the voice code is only "aktiv" if voice is in the option enabled ?? 20.16.15 # preglow: yes 20.16.28 # _FireFly_: yep 20.16.39 # <_FireFly_> if so then i can leave with that workaround because i have voice disabled :) 20.16.43 # or when the voice is being used 20.16.46 # <_FireFly_> live 20.17.02 # <_FireFly_> i have all voice option disabled 20.17.03 # :D 20.17.50 # <_FireFly_> so there is no problem with a possible loop in the pcm buffer?? 20.18.03 Quit rasher ("leaving") 20.18.42 Join rasher [0] (n=jonas@83.72.66.7.ip.tele2adsl.dk) 20.19.13 # _FireFly_: there is still the loop but it shouldn't be a problem 20.19.34 # _FireFly_: but the better way is to enabled the dsp for wavpack 20.20.03 # <_FireFly_> how much work :)?? 20.20.31 # something like a single or few lines additional code to the codec file 20.24.52 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 20.25.26 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.26.02 # <_FireFly_> is there a codec for which dsp is enabled ?? 20.26.37 # i'll try to rewrite the codec now 20.26.39 # to use the dsp 20.26.44 # <_FireFly_> ok 20.29.56 # brb 20.32.10 Join solexx [0] (n=jrschulz@d095087.adsl.hansenet.de) 20.33.09 Quit goa (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.34.34 Join goa [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 20.49.07 Quit solexx_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.50.24 Quit Hadaka (Remote closed the connection) 20.50.28 Join Naked [0] (i=naked@naked.iki.fi) 20.50.43 Nick Naked is now known as Hadaka (i=naked@naked.iki.fi) 20.52.44 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 20.56.28 # uh, now fith fat_opendir etc. the directory cache building is very fast! 20.56.37 # i will take some measurements 20.56.41 # *with 20.56.49 # What did you change? 20.56.56 # curious 20.57.10 # i replaced opendir and readdir with fat_opendir and fat_readdir 20.57.26 # and made the recursive scan not use stack 20.57.31 # Mhm 20.59.10 # now i don't see that it would eat battery almost at all 21.00.13 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.00.47 Join Nibbler [0] (n=sven@port-212-202-78-23.dynamic.qsc.de) 21.07.54 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m50.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 21.08.55 Quit ender` (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.13.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.25.26 Quit Asku ("leaving") 21.32.26 Join Lear [0] (n=chatzill@h36n10c1o285.bredband.skanova.com) 21.41.55 # all of the currently known dircache problems fixed. I think it will be ready for commit at this week (i will put a final patch review available soon) 21.42.27 # congratulations :-) 21.42.31 # :) 21.43.14 # night -> 21.43.32 # have a good night Slasher 21.44.39 Quit rasher (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.47.48 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.50.40 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 21.51.01 # For the record, there are also problems with pausing and ALAC. I don't think the DSP is used for ALAC either. 21.51.42 # <_FireFly_> night 21.52.39 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 21.55.41 Quit Sucka ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") 22.09.06 Join actionshrimp [0] (n=NNSCRIPT@host81-156-159-34.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) 22.12.49 Join RotAtoR [0] (n=e@12-208-69-190.client.insightBB.com) 22.37.48 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp14-adsl-245.ath.forthnet.gr) 22.46.16 Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5.1 [Firefox 1.4/undefined]") 23.13.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.23.09 Join rasher [0] (n=jonas@62.79.64.148.adsl.hs.tiscali.dk) 23.27.13 # 2 bugs in the simulator about the FM 23.27.25 # 1) Adding a preset crashes the sim 23.27.47 # 2) FM radio status is always set to active once the Radio starts. 23.27.56 # again these are both for the sim 23.30.01 # tvelocity: can you see my messages? 23.30.37 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-123-140.VIC.netspace.net.au) 23.30.45 # XavierGr, nope 23.31.04 Ctcp Ping on #rockbox from rasher!n=jonas@62.79.64.148.adsl.hs.tiscali.dk 23.31.04 *** Server message 505: 'logbot :Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )' 23.31.09 # oops, sorry 23.31.12 # lol 23.31.22 # That should've been a server ping 23.31.51 # fuck. i've still got my client responding to those with its own ctcp. 23.31.54 # * ashridah fixes 23.31.57 # PONG! 23.32.06 # ashridah: I noticed 23.32.29 # tvelocity: strange I can see yours... 23.32.53 # maybe because you haven't /identify 'ed 23.33.28 # oh yeah I am not 23.33.33 # -NickServ- The nickname [XavierGr] is not registered 23.33.38 # how can I identify? 23.33.54 # /nickserv help 23.34.48 Join ep0ch [0] (n=ep0ch@84.12.151.83) 23.35.22 # OK I just registered 23.35.37 # rasher: quick question... 23.35.57 # rasher: i've just installed your latest build (hope you don't mind) 23.36.06 # rasher: peak meter isn't working? 23.36.09 # ep0ch: that's what it's there for 23.36.20 # I think that's a bug with the remote patch that's been fixed 23.36.25 # peak meter for what? 23.36.25 # ahh 23.36.26 # I just need to update the patch 23.36.31 # cool 23.36.49 # unless it's the fm peak meter 23.36.50 # for the remote patch? 23.36.53 # which is just not working. 23.37.11 # yeah that would be cool to fix the fm peak meter 23.37.25 # nah peak meter for plain old normal playback 23.37.27 # I wish I knew how to do it know that I am working for the fm presets! 23.37.56 # ^now 23.41.40 Quit ghode|afk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.42.03 # woukdn't audioscrobbler support be cool? 23.42.32 # I don't think they like plugins that work offline 23.43.13 # how would they know?:P 23.44.25 # audioscrobbler? 23.44.38 # XavierGr, http://www.last.fm/ 23.46.54 Part ep0ch 23.48.25 # submitting to last.fm in chunks works to some extent 23.48.28 # but i don't know how far 23.50.42 # submitting could be artifficialy delayed 23.56.37 Join crashd [0] (i=nobody@badger.ing.me.uk) 23.58.26 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 23.58.45 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))