--- Log for 10.10.105 Server: brown.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 2 days and 12 hours ago 00.24.51 Join DrMoos [0] (i=DrMoos@m91.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 00.25.32 Quit Moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.08.16 Join aegray [0] (n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com) 01.08.32 Nick DrMoos is now known as Moos (i=DrMoos@m91.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 01.14.27 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@p54BD5031.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.18.17 Quit Moos ("Glory to Rockbox") 01.21.39 Join webguest24 [0] (n=18d79b85@labb.contactor.se) 01.22.46 # ok, if i disable dircaching, isnt it supposed to not scan for anything? 01.24.30 # amiconn: sure 01.24.33 # ehh 01.24.35 # sure 01.24.59 # is dir caching here to stay? 01.25.12 # probably 01.25.20 # why, does it scan for something when you turn it off? 01.25.25 # i mean, for me, that means i will not be able to be up-to-date for quite a long time 01.25.29 # it doesn't scan for anything here if i disable it 01.25.31 # no the thing is 01.25.39 # i use korean patch 01.25.50 # and that seems to be interfering with the dircache 01.26.14 # well, maintaining other people's patches isn't really our job 01.26.17 # i got a dircache-less source from timid and thats what im using for now 01.26.25 # i know, but im just curious 01.26.36 # but yeah, i can't imagine why dircache would vanish 01.26.41 # i love it, and lots of other people do as well 01.26.50 # if there's a way to not have take out dircache by myself 01.27.05 # how does the patch fail? 01.27.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.27.34 # when i boot it up, it freezes at the startup screen (Rockbox pic) 01.27.48 # actually, it doesnt freeze; the hdd keeps on spinning 01.27.53 # ok 01.28.16 # from my shallow background knowledge, dircache is probably having a problem recognizing korean dirs 01.28.29 # possibly 01.28.39 # can't imagine why, though 01.28.44 # is the korean patch maintained? 01.29.01 # i thought it was but it seems really uh... "quiet" as of now 01.29.08 # well 01.29.13 # someone seems to be working on the unicode patch though 01.29.25 # you COULD ask slasheri why he thinks the patch fails 01.29.46 # but like i said, it's not our responsibility to make sure other peoples patches work 01.29.55 # i'd love unicode rockbox myself 01.29.58 # right, i perfectly understand that 01.30.19 # i jus wanna know if i can get it "removed" manually 01.30.33 # phaedrus961 and I are working on unicode 01.30.41 # markun: actively? 01.31.00 # webguest24: Are you the one who has a korean language file? 01.31.10 # no it was el.. something but 01.31.12 # he uploaded it 01.31.24 # if that's not good enough, i can do one myself 01.31.34 # but i saw it posted 01.31.35 # preglow: Well, not very active. It works fine so far. 01.31.44 # markun: still, that's great news 01.32.13 # markun: is that completely diff than that chinese/japanese patch updated to support korean? 01.32.18 # markun: how does it work? can you compile rockbox both with and without unicode support? or doesn't it alter rockbox size too much, so it can be enabled for all builds? 01.32.54 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.32.55 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@p54BD5031.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.32.58 # The current unicode patch is my original unicode patch + the font caching stolen from the chinese/japanese patch. 01.33.42 # if korean works, i can be the beta tester :p 01.33.47 # preglow: There are no ifdefs so it always uses unicode if that's what you mean. 01.33.56 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1525.0;id=227 01.34.03 # this is the uploaded lang file 01.34.25 # latin1 fonts work, but for other fonts you need a unicode font. X11 ships with some. 01.34.27 # if u need any other help, ill do what i can (except programming...) 01.35.06 # is the font format the same? fnt file cs file? 01.35.46 # Yes, the font format is the same. 01.36.27 # i see 01.37.07 Join Marcus [0] (n=51429e5b@labb.contactor.se) 01.37.12 # so... anything i can do to help? 01.37.12 # Hello 01.37.50 # quick question please: what the memacces debug feature is it for? 01.38.11 # amiconn ported it 01.38.20 # webguest24: Hm. I will try to get korean to work properly and then you can play with it and tell me if there's a problem. 01.38.38 # webguest24: What's your normal nick on irc? 01.38.44 # markun: ok :) tell me if u need the font 01.38.49 # amiconn: are you here? 01.38.56 # markun: ... random... 01.39.13 # markun: it's probably better for u to email me, g2tL84 at gmail.com 01.39.18 # webguest24: I have a font, but I could use some more. A bdf unicode font with arabic would also be very nice. 01.39.21 # or the username "user" on forums 01.39.39 # ok, I'll mail you then if I have any updates. 01.39.43 # arabic as in.. numbers? or the language? 01.40.05 # the language 01.40.53 # anyone here know what is it the new memory guard debug option please? 01.42.21 # anyone? 01.43.10 # well, it probably lets you trap memory accesses in some way 01.43.17 # like null pointer dereferences 01.43.23 # exactly how i don't know 01.43.50 # o.O 01.44.46 # have you examples for I understand well please? 01.45.37 Quit actionshrimp ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") 01.45.48 # i'm not quite certain how it works myself 01.46.40 # ok thanks anyway 01.47.17 # amiconn could explain me, but apperently isn't here 01.47.35 # place is usually quite dead sundays 01.48.28 # :D 01.48.54 # I'll ask an other day if I'll much of luck 01.49.13 # good night @ all 01.49.22 Quit Marcus ("CGI:IRC") 01.55.59 # preglow: I put "@$(MAKE) -C $(TOOLSDIR)" in the makefile, so the tools will always be up to date. Do you know why this is not done? 01.59.27 # webguest24: ok, the korean language file now works with the unicode patch, but it has to load from the HD all the time because of the font caching. 02.09.56 # ok ok im back from dinner 02.10.06 # what do u mean it has to load from the hd? 02.10.10 # doesnt it always? 02.11.55 Join _user_ [0] (n=18d79b85@labb.contactor.se) 02.11.55 Quit webguest24 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.12.10 # <_user_> gay web irc... 02.12.24 # <_user_> this is "webguest24" 02.12.51 # <_user_> markun: so what's going on exactly? 02.14.23 # _user_: http://130.89.160.166/rockbox/korean.jpg 02.14.51 # <_user_> nice 02.15.14 # <_user_> haha i think i might wanna re-translate some of them later 02.15.45 # The problem is that the font caching only loads a small piece of the font. Every time it sees a new char it has to load it from disk. 02.15.59 # <_user_> oh i see 02.16.07 # <_user_> why is that? 02.16.17 # A solution would be to save all the chars that are in the cache when you turn of the player and load them again when you turn it on.. 02.16.39 # Well, the font's are so big that you don't want to load the whole font into memory. 02.16.49 # <_user_> i see 02.16.57 # <_user_> well, that seems like a valid choice 02.17.30 # markun: i have no idea, it's a known issue, but nothing has been done about it 02.17.36 # markun how big is a font file with unicode? 02.17.45 # <_user_> or maybe cache the "korean part" first and cache the really big "chinese part" whenever needed? 02.17.51 # <_user_> fonts are usually around 1-2MB 02.17.58 # <_user_> oh wait thats bdf 02.18.03 # preglow: shall I just commit it? 02.18.05 # very big 02.18.28 # <_user_> fnt i think my fnt file is 514KB 02.18.31 # <_user_> 513* 02.19.00 # it wii be a problem for archos models 02.19.13 # <_user_> yeah 02.19.22 # _user_: greek people want to preload the greek part, russian people want the cyrilic part.. if you just remember what was in the cache it will work for everybody. 02.19.37 # <_user_> hmm 02.19.43 # <_user_> i see 02.20.09 # biggest font now is like 7,20 kb 02.20.46 # The unicode font I used for the korean language file is 736K. 02.20.52 # <_user_> well the font's big size is due to the chinses chars, which arent used as frequently ( i think i have like less than 10 songs that have a chinese char in it) 02.21.00 # <_user_> wow even larger 02.22.19 # is there any relation between chines, japanese and korean languages? 02.22.43 # markun: i say yes, if it seems to work 02.22.55 # <_user_> well, for one thing, korean fonts usually have all three 02.22.59 # i have no idea why this hasn't been fixed yet, but i can't imagine anything more fancy than that is needed 02.23.39 # I got a little confused, are you going to commit unicode support? 02.25.41 # no, just a makefile change to compile the tools dir automatically if it's not already done 02.25.58 # since that just stopped working at some point 02.26.54 # preglow: It has worked before? 02.27.16 # markun: yes, i can distinctly remember make in build/ built the tools for you if they weren't built 02.27.21 # but it stopped working at some point 02.27.49 # great idea. 02.27.55 # well, yes 02.28.00 # that's the way it's supposed to be 02.28.04 # anywho, i need to go to bed 02.28.04 # later, all 02.28.12 Quit preglow ("leaving") 02.28.15 # _user_: Are your fonts unicode (ISO-10646) ? 02.28.46 # now for the unicode, how is it working? I mean regular fonts have 256 thesis to place english chars numerical, others and another 1 language. 02.29.14 # So if I load Greek on rockbox I cant read french and if I load french I can't read greek 02.29.22 # so how a unicode font looks like? 02.29.33 # and how it recognises which language to show? 02.30.20 # <_user_> its uhm.. ksx1001.1998 02.30.44 # <_user_> which is what the chinese/japanese patch uses 02.31.08 # XavierGr: Well, a char in unicode is 16-bit (or even 32-bit), so japanese, greek and french can be in the same file. http://www.unicode.org/charts/ 02.31.46 # _user_: I don't know if there is a converter, but it would be nice. 02.32.09 # <_user_> ill try to look for that type of fonts 02.32.17 Quit XavierGr () 02.33.08 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp15-adsl-246.ath.forthnet.gr) 02.33.10 # _user_: I hope it will work. I remember a lof of people were angry because they felt unicode didn't handle CJK very well 02.33.30 # <_user_> oh... 02.33.37 # XavierGr: The unicode patch uses UTF-8 as encoding for the strings. Do you know what it is? 02.33.59 # I know only that it is a coding for languages. 02.35.02 # as Western (ISO -xxx) e.t.c 02.35.05 # XavierGr: It a ASCII compatible way to store unicode strings. Included in the patch is a small script that will convert all the language files to UTF-8 so you can use all the languages together. 02.35.47 # nice so that's why it makes the font file so big. 02.35.56 # and how it can decide which language is shown? 02.36.19 # I mean I may have tags in Greek and French or German language. 02.37.19 # XavierGr: If the tags are using unicode than it should all work. Ogg Vorbis and APE tags use UTF-8 for the tags, but I don't know about ID3 and ID3v2 02.37.40 Join lostlogic_ [0] (n=lostlogi@node-4024215a.mdw.onnet.us.uu.net) 02.38.00 # <_user_> markun: well..it kinda seems wrong for someone doing nothing to get angry with someone who's working 02.39.08 # I think that id3 tags support Unicode too. 02.39.30 # _user_: It was not related to rockbox. People were angry with the unicode standard. 02.39.43 # so what is still missing on the unicde patch to be commited? 02.39.48 # XavierGr: Then maybe you will have to convert your tags, but I'm not sure. 02.39.57 # <_user_> markun: oh, ok 02.41.49 # Hebrew is left-to-right with the patch, so that should be fixed. All the rockbox fonts that are not latin1 don't work anymore. And the font cache doesn't remember what was in the cache when you reboot or load a different font. 02.42.06 # And I have not found a proper unicode font with arabic. 02.42.08 # id3v2 tags do support unicode, but most are written in the local codepage 02.42.20 # phaedrus961: Ah, happy you are here! 02.42.27 # I have to go to bed so you can take over :) 02.42.38 # hebrew is right to left, by the way 02.42.51 # sure :) 02.43.12 # phaedrus961: great that hebrew works. I thought I tried it last week and it didn't. 02.43.23 # ID3v2 supports Unicode 02.43.29 # http://www.id3.org/easy.html 02.44.01 # XavierGr: I just said that :) 02.44.17 # opps yeah sorry I just saw! 02.44.31 # I'm also working on conversions for cjk tags that aren't unicode 02.45.41 # see here for what needs to be done: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&group_id=44306&aid=1267994 02.45.47 # phaedrus961: korean lang with the unicode patch: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=1525.0 02.49.06 # <_user_> markun: ok i downloaded this fontpack thingy.. and i see a bunch of .pcf files.. can you use this? 02.50.05 # we need bdf fonts for rockbox, but maybe they can be converted 02.51.05 # well, good night everyone. 02.51.33 # <_user_> gnite 02.51.41 # nite 02.52.15 # bye 02.53.45 Quit lostlogic (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.55.48 # _user_: are those fonts unicode? 02.57.13 # <_user_> seems like it... i got it from this korean website and the file name is iso10646-1.exe 02.57.35 # <_user_> im trying to look for something like pcftobdf 02.58.00 # <_user_> bdftopcf seems like a common command though.. (i don't know since i don't use linux) 02.58.02 # can you give me the site? I have a util to convert them 03.00.17 # <_user_> ok 03.00.38 # <_user_> http://www.linuxgroup.org/files/fonts2/iso10646-1.exe 03.00.53 # <_user_> if d/l speed is unbearably slow, ill upload it some place else or something 03.03.13 # is 110kb/s unbearably slow? 03.03.55 # <_user_> meh, seems alright for a 20MB file 03.07.08 # hmm, I have the file but I can't seem to extract it. do you know what kind of archive it is? 03.07.23 # <_user_> i had to install it 03.07.37 # <_user_> then it extracts the fonts in the destination folder 03.07.52 # <_user_> or are u on linux? 03.08.35 # I'm on linux, I'll have to move it to a windows box 03.08.54 # <_user_> oh isee 03.09.03 # <_user_> lemme send it to you by email then 03.11.20 # <_user_> actually, i have better idea, gimme a sec 03.17.24 # <_user_> http://s24.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1IMI4BY0FR39Z2E31XBNIDXA7J 03.18.44 # thanks, downloading it now 03.19.35 # <_user_> np, hope that helps 03.23.23 Join GaNgSta69 [0] (n=GaNgSta6@CPE-203-51-3-34.nsw.bigpond.net.au) 03.23.27 # these fonts don't look big enough to contain cjk characters 03.25.06 # i was currently using Rockbox on my h140 and did not notice how low the battery was.. it got down to basically no battery which i usually never do and now the dam thing wont turn on at all and does not recognise that its connected to the charger cable ... is there any hints to help me out or forums i can go 2 03.25.08 # nevermind, they're compressed 03.25.16 # <_user_> yup 03.25.41 # <_user_> GaNgSta69: is the batt life that bad?? 03.25.58 # <_user_> GaNgSta69: oh u mean it's broken? 03.26.15 # <_user_> GaNgSta69: i remeber reading some posts about low battery bugs... 03.26.28 # its not turning on or doesnt recognise that cable is in to charge it.. 03.27.03 # <_user_> did u try to reset it? 03.27.18 # <_user_> i meant, did u try resetting it? 03.27.22 # i pressed it in .. yeh but nuthin happens 03.27.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.28.13 # <_user_> hmm so when u connect it to the charger, the light doesnt turn on? 03.28.25 # <_user_> did u try leaving it for a long time? 03.28.30 # no light at all 03.28.38 # ive had it in for around 10mins 03.29.24 # im starting to worry.. ive had h140 for over yr and nuthin ever happened to it.. its my life ;) jkin.. but my prob is serious 03.29.54 # <_user_> hmm... i think something like that happend to me too 03.30.16 # <_user_> what i did was, i let it be for a long time w/o the charger 03.30.26 # <_user_> then tried to turn it on, which it did for a split sec 03.30.51 # its been left alone for around 12hrs.. i went to sleep ... now im connecting to charger .. 03.31.00 # <_user_> hmm 03.31.21 # <_user_> if it ever turns on, even for a split sec, try plugging in ur usb cable 03.31.25 # <_user_> and back up everything if u can 03.31.32 # <_user_> my h120 failed 2 times 03.31.42 # <_user_> one time, i was not able to recover anything 03.31.49 # shit i dont give a crap about the files.. i want my thing to work 03.31.51 # lol 03.31.55 # <_user_> lol well 03.32.18 # <_user_> iriver is usually generous about that kinda stuff even if ur warranty is gone 03.32.24 # <_user_> try calling them 03.32.29 # im in AUS 03.32.33 # <_user_> you will probably have to wait a looonnnng 03.32.34 # <_user_> ouc 03.32.35 # <_user_> h 03.32.50 # <_user_> well in that case... i cant really think of anything.. sorry 03.33.02 # dont they help with ppl in AUS 03.33.23 # <_user_> i have no idea 03.33.27 # <_user_> they probably do... 03.33.39 # <_user_> did u try misticriver.net? 03.34.52 # site isnt workin atm 03.35.11 # or is that just me 03.35.49 # _user_: I don't see any cjk chars in those fonts 03.36.53 # <_user_> phaedrus961: aw man.. i guess ill look for more... 03.37.48 # ive got my brothers h140 as well.. u think it would be a good idea to open mine up and swap with battery or somethin like that.. ?? or shouldnt do that ? 03.37.56 # how much is a battery ? 03.38.12 # is there a model i can look at or somethin 03.38.37 # maybe there's a way to convert the ksx1001 fonts to unicode 03.38.43 # I'll look into that 03.38.50 # <_user_> GaNgSta69: hmm doesnt work for me either 03.38.59 # <_user_> phaedrus961: yeah that'd be sooo nice 03.39.39 # <_user_> GaNgSta69: with my virtually non-existent knowledge, i suggest u wait for misticriver.net to work... 03.39.58 # <_user_> even rockbox forum doesnt work for me :( 03.40.15 # I CONNECTED MY BRO'S CHARGER THE LIGHT IS ON !!!!!!!! 03.40.19 # major breakthrough 03.40.22 # <_user_> nice 03.40.23 # <_user_> lol 03.40.29 # <_user_> so it was ur charger then? 03.40.38 # maybe.. ill connect mine to his 03.40.43 # <_user_> haha 03.40.55 Join Shani}{Coder [0] (i=shani@Ariel.Atlantica.US) 03.41.13 # <_user_> elome.. or something like that claimed that he has the korean iso font in the forum 03.41.22 # <_user_> but the forum seems to be down or something.. i cant get in 03.42.26 # yeah, it's down for me too 03.46.28 # <_user_> btw, are you the guy who did the chinese/japanese patch? 03.47.33 Join random_man [0] (n=405b5449@labb.contactor.se) 03.47.46 # I updated it and added a few things 03.47.56 # but I'm not the original author 03.48.11 # anybody else have the forums link time out on there? 03.49.05 # <_user_> phaedrus961: hmm so do you think there's a way to get around that dircache? so that i can get my rockbox uptodate? 03.49.26 # <_user_> random_man: forum doesnt work for me either 03.49.49 # ok just making sure its not my connection. you try misticriver.net too? 03.50.02 # <_user_> is misticriver on the same server? (i'm guessing tha's the case since jeff mods it) it doesnt work either... 03.50.36 # yes now i remember it is 03.50.50 # I don't know anything about the dircache code, sorry 03.51.46 # but markun says that it works with the unicode patch, so you can use that when I get korean working 03.52.14 # why do you guys think the remote patch commited to cvs? 03.52.51 # when* 03.54.06 # <_user_> phaedrus961: ok :) 03.54.19 # <_user_> i think timid and firefly are working on that 03.54.33 # <_user_> oh xaviergr too probably 03.56.39 # yes 04.02.13 # no I am not on the remote anymore, unfortunately. 04.02.37 # Firefly is doing something like I did, but more complete and bugfee. 04.02.51 # <_user_> oh ok 04.02.58 # TiMiD has another approach which probably be commitable 04.03.15 # <_user_> so firefly's is still temporary? 04.03.38 # yeah, it wil not be commited and thats for sure. 04.04.54 # <_user_> i see 04.05.12 Join QT [0] (i=as@madwifi/users/area51) 04.16.06 Quit RotAtoR () 04.17.18 Quit QT_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.24.27 # why wont fireflys be commited? 04.35.22 Quit _user_ ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 04.46.11 Quit Shani}{Coder (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04.49.09 Part aegray 04.51.19 # random_man: Because his way is not good for commitment, it will add clutter to the code, rockbox isn't made for the iriver specifically, so the devs are right that they don't want this way. After all they denied my remote patch too, because it was this way(same as FireFly's). But have patience, TiMiD is working on another remote approach which probably be accepted for commitment. 04.56.06 Quit GaNgSta69 () 05.16.33 # hmmm they seem kinda picky... 05.19.23 # well i hope when they do commited i hope its as good as as the latest remote patch from firefly 05.20.11 # it will be even better because this way rockbox can handle any number of screens indpendently 05.20.34 # and will be good for further ports too 05.21.42 # yes. 05.23.49 # nihaha 05.24.02 # the forums are working again if you didnt know i just found out.... 05.24.03 # still awake guys .? 05.27.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.30.14 # ahthey flew away :( 05.31.09 # wat is link for updated remote implamented in rockbox build? 05.32.16 # the firefly's one ? 05.32.35 # it may be here http://home.arcor.de/s.wezel/ 05.32.37 # yes. isnt it http://home.arcor.de/s.wezel/ ? 05.32.40 # or not ... 05.32.55 # i looked its only updated to the 8th but check this out..... 05.33.32 # I have uploaded my cvs-sources with the latest cvs changes(9 Oct 13:37) or does this mean something different 05.34.14 # http://home.arcor.de/s.wezel/my-rockbox-remote-src.tar.bz2 05.34.28 # this one seems to be from yesterday 05.35.36 # ok 05.36.54 # (else you have my patch, but I'm not sure it's what you want :p) 05.37.03 # who was it who had the other page with other sorts of versions of rockbox with plugins and stuff in them. is site kinda looked like rockboxes. with the backround colors 05.37.23 # yes i heard you are making one. how is that comming? 05.37.36 # i havnt head much bout yours TiMiD 05.39.40 # it was rasher's page I thing 05.40.04 # you can find it on the forum (if it wants to work :p ) 05.41.05 # fourms are working... for me 05.41.05 # about my patch : I'm waiting for core dev's feedback, but they seems very busy right now 05.41.21 # for me it's working but very slow 05.42.20 # http://rasher.dk/rockbox/ 05.42.25 # here it is 05.42.27 # i have slow internet so its the same for me. \ 05.43.00 # I have no internet :D 05.43.24 # it's my neighbour wifi ... and it depends on the wether, etc ... 05.44.27 # lol nice the nearest neighbor for dsl is bout 10 miles away so im stuck with less then 56k 05.44.41 # use a parabol :) 05.45.37 # i dont know what that is 05.46.27 # maybe my english taht sucks ;p 05.46.57 # parabola ? 05.48.50 # explain what it does and i might know 05.48.59 # well 05.49.11 # it's used to receive radio waves 05.49.18 # for example from satellites 05.49.51 # oh ok. i dont really know the kid anymore so i dont think i could get it anyways 05.50.25 # http://www.radiopico.it/GIF/PARABOLE.JPG 05.50.28 # that :) 05.51.02 # (I want one in my garden XD) 05.51.17 # uhh thats a little big 05.51.49 # we use to have an old sat dish that was the old school ones (very huge and white) mabey i could of riged it up to do that 05.52.59 # there are guys who managed to get wifi signal from 10 miles 05.53.20 # holy crap 05.53.49 # with a .. I don't know how to say this in english, but it's very cheap 05.53.53 # http://www.paris-sansfil.fr/AntenneRicore 05.53.58 # look at the pictures :) 05.55.44 # wow different language. ill use babel fish 05.55.57 # hmmm :) 05.56.07 # ah 05.56.09 # I remember 05.56.11 # what language is that? 05.56.19 # french 05.56.24 # the word is "cans" 05.56.26 # yep 05.56.30 # french :) 05.58.02 # cool. mabey i can get ffaster internet then. my town is bout 4 miles away... 05.58.15 # ha :) 05.58.40 # prepare your drill ! 05.58.54 # this isnt illegal is it? 05.59.01 # hmm 05.59.13 # the antenna is legal 05.59.19 # do you know how much this costs? 05.59.22 # stealing the connexion isn't 06.00.00 # the cost should'nt exceed 10USD 06.00.13 # wow really. sweet 06.00.33 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 06.00.36 # now if only i could read french cuz trasnlation dosnt make sense 06.00.45 # http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/cantennahowto.html 06.00.54 # this seems to be english :) 06.01.17 # all you need is a can, a drill and some wires 06.01.30 # but I can't guaranty that it will work ... 06.01.40 # I didn't tested myself 06.01.48 # sweet. that one is under 5 bucks 06.02.43 # you can do amazing things with a can :) 06.04.09 # haha yes you can 06.05.22 # btw, are you a native english speaker ? 06.05.36 # yes 06.05.43 # cool :) 06.05.47 # I have a question 06.05.50 # should I ? 06.06.15 # yup..... 06.06.20 # hmm 06.06.37 # TiMiD:still awake guys .?-> I didn't sleep at all. I have college lesson in 8.00 am. If i sleep now I will surely miss it!!! 06.06.43 # I have to say a sentence but i don't know how to say il properly 06.07.02 # it's for my CV 06.07.09 # (I must do in in english ...) 06.07.10 # use translator haha 06.07.31 # I tried but it's far too complicated :p 06.07.46 # what I want to say is that sometimes I hold the student bar 06.08.10 Join brunofone [0] (i=brunofon@r32h240.res.gatech.edu) 06.08.12 # (I receive custommers) 06.08.19 # hmmm 06.08.54 # XavierGr: no school tomorrow XD 06.09.08 # (but i must do this fckù$ù CV) 06.09.17 # yo guys, any word on the progress of rockbox for the gmini 220?? as in, is the project still going on at all?? 06.09.54 # it's paused :) 06.10.13 # haha with a smiley face? 06.10.21 # sure 06.10.27 # i just bought the 220, man the firmware is bad 06.10.29 # I don't own a gmini :p 06.10.30 # it hangs like crazy 06.11.26 # why is it paused? the guy doing it doesnt have time? 06.11.43 # no he stopped working on it 06.11.54 # (but a lot of work has been done 06.12.00 # hm 06.12.08 # no plans to pick it back up? 06.12.16 # you could do it yourself :p 06.12.33 # how far is 200 meters ? 06.12.50 # haha i go to georgia tech, i could probably find some cs kid that would do it 06.14.03 # random_man: 1/5 km 06.14.10 # 1/10 miles 06.14.24 # 1/10 of a mile? 06.14.43 # I hate metric inconsistencies!!! 06.14.55 # a little more but that's around that 06.15.24 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 06.15.27 Join webguest64 [0] (n=18d79b85@labb.contactor.se) 06.15.56 # 200m=656ft=0.1242742miles 06.15.58 Quit webguest64 (Client Quit) 06.16.48 # how long is 5000 meters? 06.16.52 # 200 metres = 7874.02 inches or 656.17 feet or 218,72 yards or 0,12 miles or 0.2 km 06.17.10 # in what you want the answer? 06.17.13 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=paulthen@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 06.17.37 # 1640.42 feet 06.17.55 # 5 000 meters = 3.10685596 miles 06.18.03 # random_man: for the 10 miles, it was with parabolas 06.18.19 # oh I thought he said 500 metres 06.18.45 # oh. well i found one that was tested wtih 5000 meters for a tin can 06.18.46 # 3 miles with a can antenna 06.19.01 # oh 06.19.10 # 79km with a parabola :) 06.19.16 # http://www.wireless-fr.org/communaute/index.php?les%20exp%E9riences%20perso 06.19.29 # (it's in french but look the numbers :p) 06.19.35 # parabola, you mean the big satelite dish you posted? 06.20.37 # or a little tv-like antenna? 06.20.40 # hmm 06.20.59 # wow 06.21.15 # http://www.nantes-wireless.org/images/wiki/tests/testsLD1.jpg 06.21.17 # that 06.22.05 # can we build that ourselves? 06.22.17 # i would like one of those 06.23.00 # couldl i jsut use an old small dish instead of havint that one ? 06.23.11 # I don't know 06.23.57 # antennas are not random whapes 06.24.10 # it must be calculated 06.24.11 # well i have to go. nice talking to you. later 06.24.15 Quit brunofone () 06.24.17 # cu 06.24.24 Part random_man 06.24.43 # and my question :( 06.28.53 # any native english speaker awake ? 06.29.39 # Yes 06.29.45 # How can I help you?' 06.29.56 # I have to do a CV in english 06.30.14 # I've done it but I'm not sure it's "english" 06.30.25 # some sentences sounds weird to me 06.30.38 # CV? 06.31.18 # hmm 06.31.22 # Curriculum Vitae 06.31.39 # it's a document you provide a company when ytou want them to employ you 06.32.02 # to postulate for a job 06.32.41 # Aaah 06.33.16 # "resume" 06.33.26 # Well, I wouldn't mind looking at it. I'm a native english speaker, though I'll admit my grammar is imperfect. 06.33.26 # I think it's how you say it 06.33.30 # Yes, it is. 06.33.35 # thx :):) 06.33.43 # do you have openoffice ? 06.33.47 # Yes 06.33.50 # ok 06.33.57 # a .odt is finethen ;) 06.34.05 # In fact, it is preferred. 06.34.49 # :p 06.35.10 # a .doc would look crappy with the conversion 06.35.19 # http://timidzone.free.fr/pub/CV Kevin FERRARE anglais.odt 06.35.25 # it's here 06.35.44 # ok 06.35.55 # thank you very much ! 06.36.05 # (it's not a very big document) 06.37.58 # Hrm... your use of the word "achievement" may not be the best choice. I think it works, but it's a little awkward. 06.38.40 # what word would you use instead ? 06.38.44 # I'm thinking about that. 06.38.48 # ok :) 06.39.16 # These are things you made, or helped make? 06.39.29 # what I want to say is just that it wasa part of my work 06.39.43 # things I made 06.40.54 # I think 'creation' might sound better then. 06.41.30 # ok I change that :p 06.42.18 # Beside "Clanlib" you spelled multiplatform wrong. There's an E in it that doesn't belong. 06.42.45 # oh 06.43.03 # I wrote it the french way :) 06.43.12 # Gotcha 06.44.22 # I'm just trying to figure out how to reword this sentence: "handling and reception of the public in a show room and in a swimming pool." It sounds very strange, but I'm not sure I can think of a better way of wording it. 06.44.46 # ok 06.44.57 # It provides the information clearly, is just seems strange reading it. 06.45.12 # because the words are in french order maybe :) 06.45.15 # Maybe 06.45.32 # I think it actually works. I don't know if there's a better way to say it. 06.45.54 # show room is correct ? 06.46.33 # Yes. 06.46.35 # (I meant a place where you listen concerts and so on) 06.46.42 #