--- Log for 16.10.105 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 day and 22 hours ago 00.00.22 # <_user_> _FireFly_: yup, that solved the prob :) 00.08.07 Quit Febs (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The dawn of a new IRC era") 00.08.49 # <_FireFly_> :) no i go to bed good night every body 00.08.54 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 00.16.39 Join muesli- [0] (i=muesli_t@Bc1f4.b.pppool.de) 00.16.51 # re 00.19.11 # i remember there was a build in counter in rockbox. does it stop and save runtime when rbx shuts down? 00.24.59 Quit _user_ ("CGI:IRC") 00.42.11 Quit Moos ("Glory to Rockbox") 00.52.58 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ipa217.4.tellas.gr) 00.56.40 # hi tvelocity 00.57.11 # hi XavierGr 00.59.14 Quit muesli- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.13.33 Quit DangerousDan ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 01.51.03 Join actionshrimp [0] (i=dave@dhcp-163-1-214-173.seh.ox.ac.uk) 01.58.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.26.33 Quit XavierGr () 02.26.34 Join XavierGr_ [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp13-adsl-41.ath.forthnet.gr) 02.30.45 Nick XavierGr_ is now known as XavierGr (n=XavierGr@ppp13-adsl-41.ath.forthnet.gr) 02.34.01 Part XavierGr 02.42.40 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp13-adsl-41.ath.forthnet.gr) 02.47.40 Part XavierGr 03.01.16 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp13-adsl-41.ath.forthnet.gr) 03.03.36 Quit XavierGr (Client Quit) 03.04.13 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp13-adsl-41.ath.forthnet.gr) 03.06.04 Quit XavierGr (Client Quit) 03.27.39 Quit RotAtoR () 03.36.38 Quit cYmen ("zZz") 03.37.42 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-122-252.VIC.netspace.net.au) 03.53.00 Join lamed [0] (n=554073df@labb.contactor.se) 03.53.36 # hey. that won't work right? | #define TOGGLE_CONTROL_PRE (BUTTON_SELECT) || (BUTTON_MODE) 03.55.05 # it's not allowd to (or) buttons |BUTTON_SELECT) || (BUTTON_MODE)| right? 03.56.23 # everyone away? 03.57.57 # it probably doesn't help that it's 3-4am in europe where many of the developers are. 03.58.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.59.00 # t's 4 a.m. over here too, i'm back from a comedy club :) 04.00.58 # anyways it seems strange, because i don't see the reason why it will make conflicts, but it does. 04.05.43 Join _Vladoman [0] (n=Vladoman@p54A7FAE5.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.13.25 Quit actionshrimp ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") 04.22.41 Quit Vlad0man (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.24.05 # hrmph 04.36.10 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp13-adsl-41.ath.forthnet.gr) 04.37.38 Quit XavierGr (Client Quit) 04.44.45 Quit lamed ("CGI:IRC") 04.46.10 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp13-adsl-41.ath.forthnet.gr) 04.47.49 # hmm the trillian client for irc is interesting 04.52.16 # irssi! 04.52.17 # gnight 04.52.18 Quit preglow ("leaving") 05.49.29 Quit DMJC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.58.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.58.42 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 06.13.44 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.56.11 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@p54BD531D.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.02.32 Join BBub_ [0] (i=belzebub@dslb-084-059-205-209.pools.arcor-ip.net) 07.13.31 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 07.13.31 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@p54BD531D.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.18.15 Quit BBub (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.18.15 Nick BBub_ is now known as BBub (i=belzebub@dslb-084-059-205-209.pools.arcor-ip.net) 07.58.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.09.07 Join Lear [0] (n=chatzill@h73n11c1o285.bredband.skanova.com) 09.13.56 # hi Lear 09.14.08 # hi there... 09.14.25 # Good news; I found out why large max files in dir values crashes the iRiver. 09.14.36 # If it is a problem on archos, it is something else. 09.16.19 # I just wanted to ask you about that 09.16.39 # YOu know that I got no problems even with max files in dir set to 10000 09.17.12 # It seems that there might be some interaction between max files in dir and max playlist size (??) 09.19.36 # we "should" have wich sort of problem with max files @ 10000? 09.22.11 # Yes, there's an interaction, and there's also a size range where the problem is likely to occur... :) 09.24.32 # The problem is that audio_init is called to early, _before_ the playlist and tree buffers have been allocated. If voice is activated, that might avoid the problem too. 09.28.13 # maxime: the problem with "bad" max files values is crashes or odd behaviour, possibly only on the iriver. 09.28.32 # Hmm. I wonder why it got implemented that way. The comment at lines 310/311 in main.c clearly points out the possible problem 09.28.56 # ok 09.29.11 # 'should try to decrease max files values.. :x 09.29.25 # Hmm. 09.30.27 # "On software codec platforms we have to init audio before calling audio_set_buffer_margin()." 09.30.33 # Cross-dependency :( 09.31.05 # yes, I'm trying to fix that... shouldn't be too hard, I hope. 09.31.06 # Maxime: That's always a good idea. Setting these values higher than necessary eats memory for no benefit 09.31.50 # I have max files in dir set to 500 (my largest dir has 400-something files), and max playlist size set to 3000 (2900-ish tracks on the player) 09.32.46 # max folder 1020files 09.32.46 # :x 09.37.09 # ah, seems to work in the simulator now... 09.55.54 Quit ashridah (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.58.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.58.41 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-120-145.VIC.netspace.net.au) 10.01.22 # okay, fix commited. 10.28.53 # Lear: If audio_init() would apply the settings, the extra call to sound_settings_apply() in main.c for swcodec platforms could go away as well 10.30.23 # (not sure whether this is possible though) 10.30.52 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 10.31.33 Join DangerousDan [0] (n=Miranda@newtpulsifer.campus.luth.se) 10.31.47 # audio_init only applies the "critical" settings, i.e., buffer margin and crossfade. I guess sound_settings_apply does other things... :) 10.33.01 # Yes, sound_settings handles different things... 10.36.32 # But it might be possible to move settings_apply()... 10.44.52 # Due to my recent experiments and experience with multiplication, I might be able to significatly speed up mandelbrot, and make it smaller at the same time 10.45.07 # Only sacrifice is a little bit of precision (3 bits) 11.08.30 # Lear: Your change causes rockbox to hang at startup.... 11.08.50 # Not here, it doesn't... 11.09.17 # Any specific settings? Like voice or so? 11.09.58 # No voice, dircache enabled (iirc) 11.10.04 # Can't check... 11.10.50 # Stays at rockbox logo for infinite time... 11.11.20 # Hm... Don't use dircache myself... 11.13.33 # 8-second poweroff works, but that's the only working thing atm... 11.17.11 # Any idea on the size of the dircache? 11.17.34 Join Febs [0] (n=Febs@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 11.22.11 # If I read the code correctly, the dircache code doesn't allocate stuff from audiobuf properly... 11.22.37 # That could mean it was really using the mallocbuf before... 11.24.15 # Dircache calculates the needed size dynamically 11.24.27 # If unknown at boot, it performs a non-transparent update 11.24.43 # My cache size was 300-something KB 11.25.01 # I know that, but 300 kB is less than the mallocbuf size, which is interesting... 11.25.26 # It seems like in the case where the cache size is known, allocation from audiobuf isn't done properly. 11.26.11 # Initial boot worked fine... 11.27.29 # So did second boot, with background scanning... 11.27.54 # Strange... 11.28.16 # Unfortunately I gotta leave now. :/ Bbl. 11.28.20 Part amiconn 11.58.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.46.11 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@p54BD756A.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.49.55 Join cYmen [0] (n=cymen@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 12.53.42 # Lear: Did you have an idea what's going on with the hang-on-boot? 12.54.09 # I need to revert your change locally in order to be able to boot again. Then I could send you my settings... 12.55.24 # Nope, what I thought looked wrong as simply a misunderstanding from me... 12.57.29 # amiconn: try adding logf traps to find the place where it hangs 12.58.18 # He, did printfs in the simulator to find the buffer problem. Not fun... :/ 12.58.47 # I'm busy doing other things... :/ 12.59.31 # I may have found it; filebuf is not initialized with NULL at start 12.59.49 # It's static, isn't it? 13.00.00 # yep.. so it should be null? 13.00.15 # Scratch that, it is null by default; only autos are random... 13.00.21 # ah.. 13.00.32 # It's not in iram? 13.00.37 # no 13.01.18 # amiconn: anyway, playback.c line 144. You could try setting it null and testing again 13.01.55 # Then why don't I have a problem with that? 13.02.12 # maybe a different compiler or something.. works for me too 13.02.34 # gcc 3.4.4 / binutils 2.16 here 13.02.40 # dito 13.02.55 # same also 13.03.35 # Added the NULL init, still the same result 13.03.40 # :/ 13.04.03 # The cache builds (judging from the disk activity), but the logo stays 13.04.25 # weird.. do you have auto resume enabled? 13.04.32 # nope 13.07.10 # and no voice files present? 13.07.17 # With Lear's changes reverted, box starts again 13.07.27 # Voice files are present (of course) 13.07.30 # oh.. 13.07.42 # there might be some dependency problem with the voice ui init then 13.07.53 # Voice menus aren't enabled in my current settings though 13.08.45 # Lear: it hangs on voice_init 13.09.10 # no voice codec thread has been created yet and there is while (!voice_codec_loaded) sleep(1) .. 13.09.44 # But why does it try that when voice UI is disabled? 13.09.59 # it's disabled only when voice files are not present.. 13.10.25 # There's something totally off in the settings.... 13.10.43 # Write .cfg puts a line "off,weak,moderate,strong: 0" 13.11.11 # * amiconn checks 13.12.14 # oh, there is a bug in the config structure.. one field missing 13.12.28 # It's not missing... it's shifted 13.12.31 # me fix 13.12.31 # yes 13.12.33 # good 13.17.53 # Did you guys see my bug report from yesterday? 13.18.15 # I recorded a 2.5 hour .wav file. Recording worked great, but seeking doesn't work properly in the resulting 1.5GB .wav file. 13.19.41 # * Febs loves having the ability to adjust input gain on-the-fly while recording. 13.23.40 # slasheri: ah, and I thought it would be good to call set_crossfade _before_ starting the voice codec thread... :) 13.24.34 # hehe :) 13.24.49 # I'll move them then, even if I don't have a voice file to test with... 13.26.06 # There are plenty of voice files available for download... 13.26.25 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VoiceFiles 13.30.57 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A4746D.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.33.05 # Okay, so I have a voice file - I think - but I don't hear anything, despite voice menus are enabled. So do I have the voice file? :) 13.33.18 # Oh, sorry, wrong laguange. :) 13.33.20 # no you dont 13.33.22 # :D 13.33.54 # and you need to reboot after installing the voice file 13.34.16 # Yep, and it shure hangs, even after moving the set calls... :( 13.34.30 # :/ but good you found it 13.35.25 # Not the problem, no... 13.35.32 Quit thegeek_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.42.34 Join preglow [0] (n=thomjoha@hekta.edt.aft.hist.no) 13.44.59 Quit tvelocity ("Leaving") 13.45.14 # Slasheri: you sure that's the cause of the pops? 13.45.51 # preglow: at least i cannot hear pops after that fix.. at least i think the previous setting was wrong 13.46.07 # but i can't be sure that was the cause for the pops but those seem to be gone 13.46.13 # it doesn't really change the fact that when i wav write, i still get pops 13.46.22 # ah :/ 13.46.31 # but i'll check out your fix soon 13.46.40 # need to water myself first 13.46.47 # :) 13.51.52 # preglow: I'm checking out the idea to use the emac for mandelbrot 13.52.33 # Yep, freeze at starting voice codec... Why isn't the thread ready then... 13.53.12 # ...using another concept for the fixed point math, which doesn't require 64*64->64bit and 32*32->32 bit multiplications, but only 32*32->64 bit and 16*16->32 bit 13.53.48 # <_FireFly_> i can confirm the freeze in confjuction with high limits is gone :) 13.56.09 Join muesli- [0] (i=muesli_t@hmln-d9b8efa9.pool.mediaWays.net) 13.56.19 # But there's a voice-related problem now... :/ 13.56.32 # re 13.56.36 # <_FireFly_> i can only hear a tick noise if i navigate in the menu or seek in a file 13.57.13 # i have that ticking ini irivers fw but nit with rbx 13.58.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.59.10 # Ah, settings.c calls talk_init too! 14.00.14 Join muesli__ [0] (i=muesli_t@Bc142.b.pppool.de) 14.03.35 # He, voice for pre-amp isn't quite right... :) 14.03.38 # how do i set up my iriver that the same directory is played continously? move to next folder: off and repeat: all ? 14.04.21 Quit linuxstb_ ("Leaving") 14.04.24 # Wow... the emac thingy is really powerful :) 14.06.11 # amiconn: voice problem fix committed. 14.08.51 # hmm, a part of the clipper on my iriver-remote broke - any idea where to get a new one? 14.10.25 # No. You might try posting on Mistic River to see if you can find someone who would sell you a broken remote so that you could use the clip. 14.10.39 # that would be an idea 14.10.47 # hum..could somebody give me an answer :-/ 14.10.59 # cause a new remote is 44 euros on ebay ;( 14.12.01 # muesli__: sounds right. 14.12.21 # muesli-: create a playlist out of the current directory (just pressing play on one of the files works, if it has no subdirs), then press play and don't have go to next directory on 14.12.36 # okidok ;) 14.13.39 # muesli-: rockbox does have a manual you know :) 14.13.45 # That reminds me of a suggestion that I wanted to make: would it make sense to have "move to next folder" automatically disable repeat? 14.14.34 # ashridah there's nothin crueler than reading manuals ;) 14.15.09 # and good systems neednt to be explained ;) 14.16.03 # bullcrap 14.16.14 # Every system needs to be explained to some people. And even then, some don't get it. Example: http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=30434 14.16.33 # this whole intuitive trip that people go on with devices and technology needs to end. computers and most electronic devices are not, and will never be, simple 14.17.20 # but this should be the aim..remind to setup those horrible video recording devices.. 14.17.34 # most attempts to make devices simple tend to make them harder to use, and what's more, slower to use 14.18.10 # but it makes no sense when only geeks can cope with it 14.18.37 # i didn't say anything about making it complex. 14.20.37 # but making it complex almost involves this 14.21.22 # you're confusing easy to use with intuitive 14.21.39 # intuitive implies that one doesn't need to read a manual. easy to use doesn't necessarily imply that 14.22.46 Quit muesli- (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14.23.39 # well..i am lost, u won ;) 14.57.18 Quit Maxime (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.57.29 Join Maxime [0] (n=flemmard@fbx.flemmard.net) 15.07.00 # ashridah still there? 15.12.09 # what should i use for skip buffer? 10mins for benchmarking? 15.15.11 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m12.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 15.18.54 # muesli__: The lowest possible, imho. Unfortunately H1x0 rockbox does no longer allow setting it to zero, like on archos 15.19.52 # i really dont understand why the lowest is the best choice. doenst that mean less songs are being cached? 15.20.13 # No 15.20.38 # Rockbox always uses all free ram for buffering 15.20.45 # so what does that switch do? 15.21.07 # Upping the anti-skip buffer setting actually causes rockbox to rebuffer earlier 15.21.29 # ah ok..st it to 5s... 15.21.33 # set 15.22.34 # This is so that if the box gets bumped heavily and the HD isn't able to read, rockbox has more time to get new data before the old data is used up 15.22.34 # started 3pm...we'll see how efficient rbx is so far ;-) (although no real and clean comparism is possible) 15.23.16 # There already is a safety margin in the default buffer limits, so this setting doesn't make sense, imho 15.34.32 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 15.36.35 Quit t0mas (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Go on, try it!") 15.43.49 Quit markun (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 15.43.56 Join markun [0] (n=karl@bastards.student.ipv6.utwente.nl) 15.47.36 # err..does somebody why i cant submit a new thread in mr's rockbox lounge? 15.47.41 # know 15.53.02 # amiconn: i found it useful to put this setting to 1 or 2 minutes or there will be skipping when walking and rebuffering starts 15.53.40 Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5.1 [Firefox 1.4.1/undefined]") 15.53.55 # maybe my hdd is just going faulty because it's quite sensitive.. 15.53.57 # Hmm. Then either the buffer margin on H1x0 is too low, or the HD is really crap compared to the 2.5" HDs in the archoses 15.54.24 # I never got any skipping on archos even with anti-skip at zero, except when forcing it 15.54.45 # (constantly shaking the unit while it tries to rebuffer) 15.54.51 # i haven't had my iriver ever skip 15.54.56 # weird, i really don't even have to shake the unit (just light moving up-down) and the hdd is unable to read 15.55.09 # *slight 15.58.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.03.47 Join Marcus [0] (n=51429f0c@labb.contactor.se) 16.05.16 # why guys, we don't have the choice to set 0 with anti skip buffer? 16.05.36 # my HD is good and I never need it 16.05.44 # 5 sec is min 16.07.27 # Slasheri: ? 16.10.24 # anyone? 16.11.51 # I mean with irivers of course 16.12.27 # Marcus: 0s means that rebuffering is going to start when _all_ buffered data is consumed 16.12.36 # that is not enough to spin up the hdd 16.13.08 # pcm buffer will run out of data before hdd spins up (unless a longer crossfade setting was activated) 16.13.09 # ok 16.13.52 # so 5sec is the minimum value? 16.14.14 # it's not practical to set it anything lower 16.14.41 # oh I see 16.14.43 # and i doubt you would save anything in battery life even if you put it to something like 1minute.. 16.14.52 # (execpt playing wav files) 16.15.15 # ok 16.17.16 # and really, the anti skip buffer setting means the buffer margin or watermark level when rebuffering starts.. "anti-skip buffer" might be misleading 16.28.44 # ciao all 16.28.50 Quit Marcus ("CGI:IRC") 16.32.27 Join fubar [0] (i=alan@2001:618:400:9426:0:0:0:10) 16.33.09 Quit fubar (Client Quit) 16.33.10 Join fubar [0] (i=alan@ipv6.moonfish.org.uk) 17.00.31 Join muesli- [0] (i=muesli_t@Bc0a2.b.pppool.de) 17.05.49 # hi muesli how is the test going? 17.06.26 # current status on http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=5e78c78711e6c0a77bb7669d62941054&topic=1651.0 17.06.30 # hi btw ;) 17.09.14 # you used a remote on your tests? 17.09.33 # Slasheri: "0s means that rebuffering is going to start when _all_ buffered data is consumed"?? 17.09.44 # If it's implemented that way, it's clearly wrong 17.10.09 # XavierGr sure, love that babe 17.10.26 # The idea is that the rebuffering code keeps track of the disk spinup time, assuming a safe value if no measurement is available yet 17.10.41 # ...and then use that plus a default safety margin for rebuffering. 17.11.13 # The anti skip buffer setting is just an additional safety margin, so setting it to zero is possible 17.12.04 # This is the way it is implemented on archos, and described in the manual 17.18.24 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.20.37 Join t0mas [0] (n=Tomas@unaffiliated/t0mas) 17.22.38 Join solexx [0] (n=jrschulz@d163098.adsl.hansenet.de) 17.33.07 Quit solexx_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.36.11 Join XavierGr_ [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp13-adsl-41.ath.forthnet.gr) 17.36.11 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.43.33 Quit XavierGr_ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 17.58.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.09.24 # how may I get around this error when compiling? 18.09.30 # MAKE in libmad 18.09.31 # make[3]: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. 18.09.31 # make[2]: *** [libmad] Error 2 18.10.53 Join Lear [0] (n=chatzill@h73n11c1o285.bredband.skanova.com) 18.21.44 # <_FireFly_> fubar: do you use a bleeding edge source archive ?? 18.22.05 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-120-145.VIC.netspace.net.au) 18.22.52 # <_FireFly_> if so then either use the daily-sources or get the sources through cvs because the bleeding-edge source archive has not all files included 18.23.38 # <_FireFly_> there is a problem in generating this archive 18.27.08 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp9-adsl-37.ath.forthnet.gr) 18.27.58 Part XavierGr 18.28.48 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp9-adsl-37.ath.forthnet.gr) 18.42.33 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s057b.studby.ntnu.no) 18.44.45 Join Philip_0729 [0] (n=Philip_j@user-7947.lns2-c7.dsl.pol.co.uk) 18.45.06 Join DrMoos [0] (i=DrMoos@m12.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 18.46.25 Quit Philip_0729 (Client Quit) 18.47.00 Quit goa ("Client suicide") 18.47.22 Join goa [0] (i=hd@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 18.47.48 Quit goa (Dead socket) 18.48.07 Join goa [0] (i=hd@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 18.48.09 # hi 18.48.34 # Salut 18.48.39 # mwarf :) 18.48.52 # how goes? 18.49.01 # busy very busy 18.49.50 # (must find a training course) 18.50.23 # stressing since I must have it in 1 month 18.50.41 # "stage" you mean? 18.51.52 # yep :) 18.52.06 # if it was in france it would be easy 18.52.16 # but I want to get one abroad 18.52.40 # since when are you searching? 18.52.47 # 2 weeks 18.53.14 # japan : 2 companies for 7 students 18.53.31 # USA : 5 companies for 38 students :/ 18.54.02 # I try to find by myself ... 18.54.18 # good luck 18.54.35 # and your university don't help you to find? 18.54.56 # yes 18.55.08 # but they don't have a lot ... 18.55.16 # ah :-( 18.55.59 # (they have a lot in france, twice the number of students ^^ but abroad that "la deche" :P) 18.56.09 # :D 18.56.27 # "conjoncturel" thing 18.56.29 # woow 18.56.33 # >>>http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=1650.0 18.56.40 # we have a winner \o_ 18.57.14 # :) 18.57.57 # well I wonder if any dev has looked at my remote patch :D 18.58.06 # probably not yet :( 18.58.11 # yes 18.58.33 # but maybe Linus will, when'll find the time 18.58.41 # hmm 18.58.58 # I hope the CVS won't xhange a lot then because I don't have the time to update 18.59.02 # I haven't SEEN Linus at all the last couple of days :( 18.59.17 # ow 18.59.17 # apear he is very usy too 18.59.25 # *busy 18.59.25 Join webguest75 [0] (n=5441bf0b@labb.contactor.se) 19.00.27 # Linus is the only one to check user space patches ? 19.00.37 # :D sure not 19.01.05 # but he is surely the best for your patch ;-) 19.01.45 # hmm 19.01.52 # but in my case too (my radio and jpeg patches) only Linus said to check them 19.01.55 # then I will update it for current CVS 19.02.04 # mwarf 19.02.10 # so poor :( 19.02.14 # XavierGr: yes it will surely Linus too 19.02.43 # they need more people to check the patches 19.03.12 # TiMiD: why did'nt write a mail in the mailing list 19.03.20 # mailing list dev now :) 19.03.35 # you can be sure dev answer you 19.03.41 # will 19.03.58 # good idea :) 19.04.05 # (I never read mailing lists) 19.04.28 # but I don't want to become "Heavy" with this 19.04.50 # the core dev read the mailing list 19.05.41 # sure you can't becom heavy with this 19.05.54 Quit Moos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.06.05 # is it good works 19.06.11 Nick DrMoos is now known as Moos (i=DrMoos@m12.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 19.07.02 # Is anyone here using trillian to connect to this IRC channel? 19.07.17 # ME! 19.07.25 # argh 19.07.32 # I just did this yesterday 19.07.45 # what? 19.07.49 # how do you get it to work cos i'm having difficulties logging in 19.08.25 # you want to loggin just to freenode or to auto join #rockbox? 19.08.32 # why not Xchat ? 19.08.40 # to auto join rockbox 19.08.47 Quit XavierGr ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 19.10.04 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp9-adsl-37.ath.forthnet.gr) 19.10.31 Quit XavierGr (Remote closed the connection) 19.11.07 Quit muesli- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.11.50 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 19.12.21 # <_FireFly_> run xchat under windows ?? 19.12.43 # <_FireFly_> ok i have found it :) 19.13.11 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp9-adsl-37.ath.forthnet.gr) 19.13.38 Join Philip_0729 [0] (n=Philip_0@user-7947.lns2-c7.dsl.pol.co.uk) 19.13.51 # sorry for that. 19.14.02 DBUG Enqueued KICK Philip_0729 19.14.02 # 04k well ive got it to join 19.14.46 # 04but how to autojoin rockbox? 19.15.01 # please don't use colors 19.15.11 # look at the servers dialog 19.15.19 # webguest75: go to manage connections and make a new irc connection, then choose a name for your connection. under that box typer irc.freenode.net:6667 19.15.20 # _FireFly_: xchat became shareware under windows (but you can still download non offical builds from source since it's GPL :P) 19.15.59 # I don't use colors 19.16.06 # am I? 19.16.11 # not you 19.16.16 # i was sorry 19.16.34 # webguest is now me :) 19.18.33 Join DrMoos [0] (i=DrMoos@m12.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 19.19.32 Quit Philip_0729 ("bye everybody") 19.20.11 Join Philip_0729 [0] (n=Philip_0@user-7947.lns2-c7.dsl.pol.co.uk) 19.20.45 Part Philip_0729 19.21.39 # TiMiD: are you registrated at freenode? 19.24.47 # maybe :) 19.24.54 # <_FireFly_> *g* 19.25.09 # is it needed ? 19.25.10 # -NickServ- The nickname [TiMiD] is not registered 19.25.20 # :) 19.25.27 # I have to do it quickly :p 19.25.28 # TiMiD: for receive private msg 19.25.37 # <_FireFly_> not really 19.25.41 # to send PMs 19.26.02 # <_FireFly_> DrMoos: you can activate pms from non registered users 19.26.12 # how? 19.26.42 # /umode -something 19.27.14 # done :) 19.27.24 # well I have to eat 19.27.25 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 19.27.30 # @++ 19.27.44 # a+, I eating too( Ramadan here) 19.29.08 Join Philip_0729 [0] (n=Philip_0@user-7947.lns2-c7.dsl.pol.co.uk) 19.30.33 Quit Philip_0729 (Client Quit) 19.36.00 Join Philip_0729 [0] (n=Philip_0@user-7947.lns2-c7.dsl.pol.co.uk) 19.36.32 Quit Philip_0729 (Client Quit) 19.38.19 Join Philip_0729 [0] (n=Philip_0@user-7947.lns2-c7.dsl.pol.co.uk) 19.38.25 Join muesli- [0] (i=muesli_t@Bbca1.b.pppool.de) 19.38.43 # yey its working 19.39.05 # re 19.39.43 # getting trillian to autoconnect to rockbox server.... 19.39.58 # <_FireFly_> freenode-server :) 19.40.19 # <_FireFly_> #rockbox is only a channel:) 19.40.28 # meh 19.41.02 # Philip_0729 btw do you know how to establish a webcam chat when the other site is using msn but you dont have a webcam 19.41.08 # any info regarding rb on H300? 19.41.29 Quit webguest75 ("CGI:IRC") 19.42.16 # Philip_0729: nothing new according to the wiki 19.42.31 Quit Moos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.42.53 Nick DrMoos is now known as Moos (i=DrMoos@m12.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 19.43.20 # the wait continues........... 19.48.32 Part Philip_0729 19.50.17 Join arkascha [0] (n=arkascha@xdsl-213-196-214-62.netcologne.de) 19.58.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.02.13 Join muesli__ [0] (i=muesli_t@Bc1f2.b.pppool.de) 20.03.16 Quit cYmen ("windoof") 20.08.37 # is recording by microphone already implemented? 20.11.18 Quit Maxime (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.11.49 Join Maxime [0] (n=flemmard@fbx.flemmard.net) 20.18.27 # yes 20.20.03 # i guess its the same thing as when i'd like to record radio? 20.24.22 Quit muesli- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.33.08 Part amiconn 20.38.12 # i've read somewhere that hdds built in an ipoo are some kind of branded and cant be used like normal hdd's. is there a way to scratch that stuff off (i.e. low level formating) ? 20.52.22 Join DrMoos [0] (i=DrMoos@m12.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 20.55.29 # does voice work for iriver/rockbox 2.5 ? 20.59.46 # yes 21.05.06 Quit arkascha (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.13.22 Quit Moos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.27.09 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 21.37.10 Join actionshrimp [0] (i=dave@dhcp-163-1-214-173.seh.ox.ac.uk) 21.40.45 Quit DangerousDan ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 21.41.37 Join arkascha [0] (n=arkascha@xdsl-213-196-216-41.netcologne.de) 21.47.51 Quit arkascha ("Konversation terminated!") 21.58.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.08.41 Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5.1 [Firefox 1.4.1/undefined]") 22.37.36 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@p54BD531D.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.59.54 Quit muesli__ ("ich will Kühe!!!") 23.06.44 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@84.254.14.22) 23.29.00 Join ]RowaN[ [0] (i=a2b0y@82-43-214-84.cable.ubr10.newm.blueyonder.co.uk) 23.29.09 # <]RowaN[> does the archos port of rockbox support replaygain? 23.29.35 # <]RowaN[> just been round at my neighbours house and noticed he has an archos.. and he has no idea what rockbox is, bless him hehe 23.32.36 # it doesn't yet 23.33.31 # it never will 23.33.33 # at least not properly 23.33.53 # let's hope in Magnus ;-) 23.34.22 # preglow: Why do you think so? 23.34.34 # It's certainly possible, only nobody cared so far... 23.35.49 # maybe one day from Lear :) 23.36.01 Nick DrMoos is now known as Moos (i=DrMoos@m12.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 23.43.16 # In fact implementing replaygain should be fairly straightforward once the gain values are available 23.43.29 # It's not more than a volume correction 23.44.10 # ...and the gain values are already available, the code is even compiled in for archos (for no benefit atm) 23.44.33 # amiconn: i didn't think you had volume control that fine grained 23.44.41 # amiconn: but now that i think of it, you have full control over the volume... 23.44.57 # The volume control on archos is way more fine grained than on iriver 23.47.00 # Main volume on all newer units (MAS3587 and 3539) is controllable in 1 dB steps, and there is an additional linear prescaler 23.47.42 # i thought you could specify the gain as a linear factor? 23.47.57 # perhaps i'm thinking of the prescaler 23.49.19 # Yes, the prescaler is linear, 0x40 being 100% and ranging from 0 to 0x7f (almost 200%) 23.49.41 # <]RowaN[> you guys r so clever. i was myself with a rag on a stick 23.50.05 # The main volume is logarithmic, -114 dB to +12 dB in 1 dB steps 23.50.45 Quit ender` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.51.42 # preglow: Ah, yes, and finally we could misuse the stereo matrix for scaling (20 bit signed fixed point) 23.52.14 # This would also work on the 3507 (archos player), which would otherwise only allow relaitevly coarse volume control (1.5 dB steps) 23.53.23 # What's the resolution of the replaygain values? 23.58.39 # amiconn: that's exactly what i was thinking of, i remember reading the stereo mode code and noticing it's pretty good resolution 23.58.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"