--- Log for 19.10.105 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 4 days and 22 hours ago 00.02.25 # (1) .irodata (selectable with the ICONST_ATTR attribute macro) - to allow const data in iram, without section type conflict 00.03.16 # (2) .ibss (selectable with the IBSS_ATTR attribute macro) - to exclude unititialised iram data from the binary 00.03.44 # Sounds good. 00.03.47 # the last will require an extra line in all code using iram, yes? 00.03.56 # a memset? 00.04.11 # crt0.s does the initialisation (I think). 00.04.25 # very improbable 00.04.28 # crt0.S is only run once, afaik 00.04.38 # I'm still undecided whether I should handle (2) specially for plugins/codecs as well 00.04.39 # and codecs need to init the bss again each time they're started 00.05.12 # Codecs and plugins don't need to init bss atm, since it's part of the binary 00.05.21 # exactly 00.05.26 # I think handling iram the same would be consistent 00.05.48 # However, the core handles .bss specially, and so it should handle .ibss specially 00.06.04 # ahh, right, codecs dont even handle bss in any special way now 00.06.16 # ...and the core does the section handling in crt0.S 00.07.04 # So if plugins use ibss, then the plugin loader will need to initialise it? 00.07.37 # Or are you not thinking about plugins? 00.07.42 # it's not handled like that for codecs/plugins yet 00.07.47 # I'm mainly thinking about the core 00.07.48 # even bss is included verbatim in the binary image 00.11.20 Quit lamed ("CGI:IRC") 00.15.46 # Ahahaha - the initialised part of today's .idata is ... 8 bytes! 00.15.51 # Everything else is bss 00.16.18 # 30664 bytes 00.18.08 # Are you talking about the core? 00.18.28 # What are those 8 bytes? 00.18.59 # In fact there are 24 bytes (16 const and 8 variable). 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10.30.11 # also if you are not aware : http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/en/m/ev50/index.html 10.30.12 # just a split, so the devs have their own list 10.30.43 # And the old one is back up as of today? 10.30.56 # it was never down 10.31.00 # I have not seen any traffic for a good month or so now since the wikidephiling 10.31.08 # yes, it's just for ordinary users afaiu 10.31.33 # How the h300 port going BTW, I have a unit now to test with 10.31.38 # AEnertia: you might have been unsubscribed as a result of the attack 10.31.46 # I'm guessing the screen code is still the kicker atm 10.31.59 # AEnertia: yes, that and the power management 10.32.50 # austriancoder wrote some code about this PMU afaik... 10.34.31 # he did? where is it? 10.35.45 # where is ac is the question ... 10.36.07 # but iaudio x5 has the same pmu 10.36.19 # and he started writing a driver for it... 10.36.30 # at least he said so 10.37.11 # he seems to have disappeared 10.38.06 Ctcp Ignored 5 channel CTCP requests in 5 minutes and 10 seconds at the last flood 10.38.06 # * Bger hopes that ac is ok, having in mind floodings in austria... 10.40.25 # last time i heard from him was 2005-09-14, he had been on vacation, and "things are running back to normality" 10.40.35 # silent since then 10.40.40 # aha... 10.42.38 Quit AliasCoffee ("Leaving") 10.43.47 # <|Lupin|> Someone saw my mail on rockbox-dev, guys ? 10.44.39 # yes i saw it 10.45.09 # <|Lupin|> LinusN: May I ask wether it inspires you sth ? 10.45.44 # more like transpiring :-) 10.45.56 # <|Lupin|> hmm... 10.46.11 # <|Lupin|> Is there sth I can do to help ? 10.46.27 # <|Lupin|> (hopefully someone can reproduce the problem...) 10.46.32 # only directories are spelled, right? 10.46.51 # <|Lupin|> it's the feeling I got, yes. 10.47.31 # <|Lupin|> at the root of the disk, I have three directories which are read 10.47.37 # <|Lupin|> and twice I hear nothing 10.47.50 # there are separate settings for directories and files 10.47.51 # <|Lupin|> s/twice/thrice/ 10.48.26 # <|Lupin|> and I have exactly three files sitting there: the firmware I used while upgrading, rockbox.iriver, and a song I put there on purpose. 10.48.35 # <|Lupin|> oh really ? 10.48.38 # <|Lupin|> Ok, I check. 10.48.40 # |Lupin|: just curious, how do you IRC? you have a sighted person with you? 10.49.15 # <|Lupin|> no no :) 10.49.18 # <|Lupin|> Fortunately not :) 10.49.25 # <|Lupin|> I use something called a "braille terminal". 10.49.30 # aha 10.49.34 # <|Lupin|> Have a look to http://mielke.cc/brltty/ 10.49.40 # technology nowadays... 10.50.05 # <|Lupin|> powerful indeed. 10.50.10 # damn cool 10.50.39 # <|Lupin|> yeah 10.52.14 # <|Lupin|> Being able touse Linux was really a liberation... 10.52.23 # did it take you long to learn braille? 10.53.06 # <|Lupin|> Hmm, it works much better now ! Really sorry forthe trouble. It might be better not to apologize onthelist, to avoid disturbing people even more, but I'm really confused I didn't find it out myself... 10.53.19 # :-) 10.54.00 # <|Lupin|> LinusN: Learning braille is just as difficult as learning any other writing technique, I think. Luckily enough, I was born blind so I learned it at school at the same age other people learn to read / write... 10.54.11 # (how does a smiley look in braille?) 10.54.34 # <|Lupin|> like a : followed by a ) 10.54.47 # <|Lupin|> i.e. you have to learn them by heart, but it's not too difficult... 10.55.33 # i'm looking for some braille alphabet cards, but the punctuation characters aren't there 10.55.48 # <|Lupin|> indeed 10.56.06 # <|Lupin|> unfortunately they depend on the country, and on even more other factors 10.56.15 # <|Lupin|> like who built the braille terminal you use. 10.56.43 # <|Lupin|> Would it be feasable (easy) to interrupt the spelling when a key is pressed ? 10.57.09 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-121-49.VIC.netspace.net.au) 10.57.25 # |Lupin|: i think so 10.58.10 # <|Lupin|> it'd really be good: it'd make things much more interactive and fluid, IMHO. 10.58.44 # wait, so it doesn't interrupt the spelling when you move the cursor to a new file? 10.58.48 # <|Lupin|> Well: I'll probably have to go through all the guides written for developers and try to submit patches myself, instead of requiring for features... 10.59.03 # <|Lupin|> No, it does not. 10.59.13 # that's a bug 10.59.44 # <|Lupin|> It gets confused and mixes speling of several files when I do it a bit quickly... 11.00.01 # the archos version works better in that respect 11.00.01 # <|Lupin|> LinusN: Do you know in which part of the sources this is handled ? 11.00.24 # <|Lupin|> ah the code for Archos is not the same than the one for Iriver ? 11.00.35 # no, not the audio parts 11.00.50 # <|Lupin|> Too bad it is not possible to share code... 11.00.52 # the voice support for iriver is still a work in progress 11.01.18 # <|Lupin|> I thought common code (depending on some hardware specific functions) could be used... 11.01.33 # that's the plan.. 11.01.43 # <|Lupin|> I see... 11.02.27 # |Lupin|: it's the hardware specific functions that is the problem 11.02.48 # <|Lupin|> May I ask what's missing ? 11.03.27 # the iriver code has a special handling for voice playback that mixes the voice with the music 11.03.55 # and that code is not perfected yet 11.03.58 # <|Lupin|> yeah, indeed. this is notpossible on Archos models ? 11.04.02 # no 11.04.10 # <|Lupin|> ok so Iriver is nice :-) 11.04.42 # sort of :-) 11.05.22 # <|Lupin|> How is it possible to stop/pause playing a song ? Is it mandatory to use theQuick menu ? 11.08.48 # hi LinusN :) 11.09.11 # |Lupin|: you can only stop/pause a song in the wps 11.09.15 # amiconn: yo yo yo 11.09.38 # LinusN: I have a patch that I would like you to have a look at it :) 11.10.35 # I've implemented two additional iram sections, .irodata (selectable with ICONST_ATTR) and .ibss (selectable with IBSS_ATTR) 11.10.44 # amiconn: what did i miss about the refresh timer? 11.11.37 # You set the counter to 48 cycles, but the comment said 64. Furthermore, 80 cycles is stil within specs for 4096-cyle-refresh sdram 11.12.03 # oops 11.12.07 # <|Lupin|> LinusN: but which keys should I use to stop/pause, pls ? 11.12.11 # offt: any near time for h300, LinusN ? 11.12.24 # your new optimized copy loops have a tiny flaw 11.12.42 # |Lupin|: the Play key toggles play and pause 11.12.57 # |Lupin|: the Stop key stops 11.13.12 # LinusN: .irodata is only cosmetic, for allowing const data in iram w/o the compiler complaining about a section type conflict 11.13.40 # Bger: time, oh, give me time... (Culture Club IIRC) 11.13.45 # However, .ibss reduces binary size quite a bit - ~500 bytes on archos, ~30 KB on iriver 11.13.56 # amiconn: great 11.14.27 # amiconn: the optimized copy loops can't handle empty sections 11.14.29 # ( 11.14.31 # :( 11.15.36 # <|Lupin|> It works indeed. The way it stops / pauses is a bit surprising, though: instead of doing it directly, first the volume decreases a litle bit, andthen only it stops or pauses. 11.16.02 # LinusN: I know. crt0.S could handle empty sections before on iriver, but not on archos. My new patch corrects that for both (except the stack munge which should never be empty) 11.16.05 # |Lupin|: i guess the "fade on stop" option is enabled 11.16.09 # |Lupin| crossfade on ? 11.16.19 # oh, sorry :0 11.16.58 # <|Lupin|> ahah ! 11.17.08 # <|Lupin|> So many stupidquestions in one morning... 11.18.08 # amiconn: the iriver .iramloop doesn't handle empty sections anymore 11.18.39 # * |Lupin| promise he'll read the available doc before asking _any_ further question. 11.19.29 # amiconn: i like your idea about the new sections 11.19.56 # [11:14:00] LinusN: I know. crt0.S could handle empty sections before on iriver, but not on archos. My new patch corrects that for both (except the stack munge which should never be empty) 11.20.15 # i reread that and understood what you meant, sorry 11.21.02 # http://amiconn.dyndns.org/iram-sections.patch 11.22.21 # This patch also tries to unify the init code a bit more (label names etc) 11.22.36 # I already have that running on my 5 rockboxes :) 11.23.02 # i like it, commit it 11.29.33 Join Febs [0] (n=Febs@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 11.37.56 Quit dwihno (Remote closed the connection) 11.39.20 # http://daniel.haxx.se/photos/snaxx-2002-09/IMG_0761.JPG 11.39.32 # >3 years ago by now 11.41.04 # there must be a new issue :P "Rewriting DAP firmware from scratch..." 11.46.10 Join dwihno [0] (n=dw@81.8.224.89) 11.49.43 # * LinusN goes to pick up sick daughter from school... 11.59.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.02.51 # Bagder: hehe, that is a nice shirt ;) 12.09.15 Join muesli- [0] (i=muesli_t@hmln-d9b8efb3.pool.mediaWays.net) 12.11.09 # jojo 12.12.50 # high:P 12.13.03 # ^^ 12.19.11 # amiconn: I juste made a crossfeed dsp effect for rockbox. Could you take a look at it and tell me what could be optimized? 12.21.54 # Slasheri: When I leave USB mode it rescans the HD. If it rockbox.iriver was changed it askes me if I want to reboot. After rebooting the dircache is rebuild, but not in the background.. 12.22.43 # markun: Ah yes, that is a bug. I will fix it right now (just got some time) :) 12.22.59 # or it was a feature but now i consider it as a bug.. 12.23.03 # Great. 12.23.11 # <|Lupin|> pls, what does ISR mean in rockbox's source code ? 12.23.27 # Interrupt Service Routine 12.23.35 # <|Lupin|> oh of course, thx. 12.31.44 Join Rori [0] (i=MO-Pants@deadman3000.plus.com) 12.31.59 # can anyone explain what 'move to next folder' is supposed to do? 12.32.05 # In playback options 12.32.22 # if it's what I think it is it don't work 12.32.44 # Rori: I continues playing the next folder in the tree after it finishes playing the current folder. 12.32.54 # does not work then 12.33.03 # Never tried it. 12.33.12 # I play the last song in a folder and it always goes back to the first track in the folder 12.33.30 # Maybe it's on repeat? 12.33.31 # it never goes to the next folder 12.34.10 # Reapt all is on 12.34.18 # repeat all 12.34.41 # that should mean it would only repeat all from the beginning once it reached the last folder 12.35.05 Quit dwihno (Remote closed the connection) 12.35.46 # I'm not sure what it should do. 12.36.18 # Rori: i agree, and work is being done, but for now, you'll have to set repeat=off 12.36.37 # Repeat all means that it repeats all songs in the current playlist. 12.36.48 # When playing a folder, the playlist is the folder. 12.36.53 # ok 12.37.03 # anyhow turning it off fixed it 12.37.04 # ta 12.42.31 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m79.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 12.42.31 Quit DrMoos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.43.20 Join dwihno [0] (n=dw@81.8.224.89) 12.53.53 # HCl ? 13.00.17 # Can anyone take a look at and comment on my crossfeed effect? http://130.89.160.166/rockbox/crossfeed.diff 13.07.29 Join preglow [0] (n=thomjoha@hekta.edt.aft.hist.no) 13.08.10 Join paugh [0] (n=kickback@2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:8000:0:3e03:6822) 13.14.29 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=icechat5@pd95b7c08.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.14.59 # <_FireFly_> markun: that isn't the complete patch is it ? 13.15.33 # <_FireFly_> because i can't see where DSP_CROSSFEED is declared 13.16.02 # _FireFly_: I forgot to include dsp.h and I need to change the settings menu. 13.16.47 # <_FireFly_> ah ok, don't forget to bump the config-version define in setting.c 13.17.01 # apply_crossfeed takes up a lot of CPU, but I don't really know how to optimize it. 13.17.44 # <_FireFly_> CONFIG_BLOCK_VERSION must be bumped if the setting is changed 13.17.50 # <_FireFly_> in settings.c 13.17.53 # Yes, I know. 13.18.06 # neuros reached slashdot 13.18.17 # _FireFly_: Bumping the config version is *only* necessary when some in-between setting is changed (removed, or different bit width) 13.18.19 # http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/19/012249&from=rss 13.18.19 # no, it doesn't have to be bumped if you add the setting last 13.18.29 # Just appending a new setting at the end doesn't require it 13.18.35 # <_FireFly_> ah ok 13.19.06 # <_FireFly_> i had to bump it in my remote patch because i had added the new settings for the remote not on the end 13.19.20 Quit muesli- (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13.37.22 # markun: Hmm, that crossfeed patch looks nice :) 13.37.48 # preglow just gave me some macros to optimize it. 13.37.58 # ah, good 13.38.01 # we need dsp plugins! 13.38.14 # =) 13.38.20 # What about a concert-hall reverb? :) 13.38.24 # haha 13.38.37 # should be easy if our poor cpu can stand the memory overhead 13.39.08 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp12-adsl-241.ath.forthnet.gr) 13.47.40 # The world is apparently waiting for parametric EQ: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=1595.0 13.48.44 # well 13.48.45 # I agree 13.48.55 # a good eq is the only feature I'm really missing;) 13.49.10 # well 13.49.27 # i guess i could start working on it 13.49.37 # but i don't have much time for rockbox now 13.49.42 # ha! you'd better get it finished soon! 13.49.43 # ;) 13.50.08 # that was a joke btw;) 13.51.37 # I think that a parametric EQ would be a good addition to Rockbox ... although I personally usually keep the EQ flat. 13.51.58 # mhm 13.52.09 # Just out of curiosity, if the EQ is done in software, how much of a battery hit would it cause? 13.54.17 # i never use the eq 13.54.19 # Febs there's no other opportunity than doing it in software on iriver 13.54.35 # but i guess i'm the best chance of an eq happening anyway 13.54.35 # if u want more than bass & trebble 13.57.09 # Oh, I understand that the DAC has only bass and treble boost functions, and therefore any other EQ needs to be in software. I am assuming that it will reduce battery life for the same reason that use of the SRS/WOW function on the original firmware reduces battery life. 13.59.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.00.07 # preglow ? 14.00.17 # Bger: yes? 14.00.32 # about the software EQ and battery usage :) 14.00.39 # it will affect battery usage 14.00.51 # how much depends on how good a job i do 14.00.55 # and how many bands you people want 14.01.02 # Makes sense. :) 14.01.05 # hehe :) 14.02.00 # i think at least 5 bands... maybe an option between 5 and 10 ... 14.03.03 # well, the number is really just a gui issue 14.03.10 # internally, it's easy to add as many as you want 14.04.38 Quit _FireFly_ ("Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies.") 14.05.24 # its battery usage will be linear func of the number of bands or ? 14.05.34 # well, yeah 14.05.35 # s/battery/cpu 14.05.42 # each band takes an equal amount of cpu,so that should be true 14.07.25 # If and when you do get around to writing an EQ function, let me know and I'd be happy to write documentation. 14.07.30 # okies 14.07.44 # i might start doing some preliminary work afterwards 14.08.38 # * Febs ponders how to explain "Q" to an audience that doesn't understand what "bass" and "treble" are. 14.08.40 # preglow: I was wondering if one can make the crossfade option to be trigerred only in track skipping? My unit is faulty and whenever I skip a track with ffw/rw sometimes I can hear a pop (or a segment of the track). 14.08.51 # Febs: perhaps bandwidth is a better term to use 14.09.09 # Though crossfade works okay but I can't have gapless if set to mix 14.09.10 # XavierGr: ask slasheri 14.09.27 # Hmm.. I will try to buy a broken h320 from ebay.. It looks pretty cheap, only hdd broken :) 14.09.34 # I thought you were for it I will, thanks anyway. 14.09.44 # oh hi Slasheri. 14.09.49 # hi 14.09.53 # Is my question possible? 14.10.05 # XavierGr: what kind of tracks are you playing? 14.10.27 # if you hear segments of previous track with crossfade, it seems that decoding is not fast enough (high bitrate file or musepack) 14.10.28 # mp3 only 160 cbr and 192 vbr 14.10.35 # hmm, weird.. 14.10.44 # nono crossfading works okay 14.10.57 # oh, so that's without crossfade? 14.11.09 # without crossfade it glitches like mad 14.11.11 # yes 14.11.13 # so there's no surprise there 14.11.19 # ok, i will try to fix that.. 14.11.25 # it's a bug 14.11.31 # no shit :P 14.11.34 # :) 14.11.38 # fix what I thought that this was my player. 14.11.48 # * XavierGr got confused 14.12.03 # i haven't noticed it because i always have crossfade enabled :/ 14.12.14 # I thought that only my player did these pops on track skipping (not normal changing) 14.12.15 # and i never use crossfade, so i always notice it 14.12.21 # :/ 14.12.29 # Crossfade works like a charm yes. 14.12.58 # Ah so there are those skipping pops left, then it isn't my unit? 14.13.31 # what i'm talking about is that skipping to a new track sometimes results in the old track popping back in sometimes 14.13.49 # usually a couple of times before the new track starts playing straight 14.13.52 # yes exactly! 14.14.12 # but this appears more than oftet to me. 14.14.19 # happens all the time to me 14.14.28 # slasheri knows why it happens 14.14.33 # and it shouldn't be too hard to fix, afaik 14.14.38 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=icechat5@pd95b7c08.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.14.39 # yeah I suppose so. 14.15.04 # It is just that someone told me that this isn't the case for his unit so I thought that my unit is mulnfunctioning 14.15.40 # and yes if these pops can be removed I would be in debt to you Slash :D 14.16.55 # oh and Slasheri, what about gapless tracks (joined tracks) if you have crossfade on you can't hear them in the right way, do you like that? (I guess you dont have much of these trackes then) 14.17.26 # XavierGr: i have some but not many. anyway, i will try to fix that problem very soon 14.18.37 # but I guess that it would be far more complex even impossible to determine if a track has a joined end to another (and set crossfade off) or not (and set crossfade on)... seems very difficult to me 14.19.25 # yep, it is difficult but maybe possible 14.19.53 # we could check the volume level or something like that at the very and and beginning of the tracks 14.20.07 # *end 14.20.40 # i can try that also when i have time enough.. 14.21.15 # :D great that's awesome. 14.24.03 # Slasheri: While you are at it, you might have a look at another iriver playback glitch that isn't present in the archos playback engine 14.24.27 # Playback code, and boot code (low level, initialization of the device) seems like magic to me, they are like two big black boxes. I guess you have to know many things about audio in general and audio formats to code, especially dsp and eq... 14.25.43 # more probably u must know DSP to code DSP/EQ stuff 14.25.56 # With ffwd/rewind, the progress bar briefly snaps back to zero when releasing the button, then it jumps to the correct time again 14.26.05 # This is somewhat irritating... 14.26.35 # yes I see that too. 14.26.52 # though not so annoying... 14.27.55 # When FF/RWing a large .wav file, the progress bar will advance, but then snap back to the original position. 14.31.14 Join muesli- [0] (i=muesli_t@hmln-d9b8ef4e.pool.mediaWays.net) 14.32.15 # argh.. now i hate ebay so much and don't trust it at all.. The registration process failed just at the point where i was requested to provide the credit card information. Server error, user not found etc.. 14.32.55 # amiconn: Hmm, i will look that 14.33.21 # well I have found a minor solution over frauds with credit cards. 14.34.39 # I have a different bank account with a safe ammount of funds. (e.g. 100 euros) Then I got a debit card for this bank acount and registered paypal. Even if my number gets on evil hands I will not loose more than 100 euros. 14.35.11 # But I guess that this will be a pain for heavy online users. 14.35.19 # XavierGr: you can get banks that will issue one-shot CC numbers with preset limits 14.35.21 # Hmm.. i have a visa card 14.35.43 # you order a one-shot off their website with XXX amount on it, pay for it, and the CC's useless after that one transaction 14.36.09 # If i understood correctly, it might be possible that the bank can "cancel" incorrect charges and return the funds. 14.36.25 # might? 14.36.36 # i have never tried that 14.36.44 # chargeback 14.36.49 # but heard from other people that with visa it can be possible 14.37.03 # (is the term, as used by paypal at least) 14.37.30 # it will be a difficult situtation to try to persuade them that you did't made the transaction 14.37.54 # http://www.mail-archive.com/mp3encoder@minnie.tuhs.org/msg01984.html 14.38.07 # what sort of developer attitude is that? 14.39.03 # are you sure he is a LAME developer? 14.39.03 # I mean at list he could be kind, there was no sarcasm in the question.... 14.39.30 # TEXT:Let's write and contribute it to us. 14.39.31 # I believe it might be a language problem too 14.39.41 # his english isn't exactly flawless 14.39.55 # and then it may sound bulkier than what he intended it to 14.40.29 # * B4gder in a forgiving mood today 14.40.48 # just note how I didn't trigger on the neuros mails ;-) 14.40.50 # have to eat later all! 14.41.51 # happy pita m8 :D 14.42.15 # steak for the moment! 14.42.44 # jesus! :D 14.58.46 # <_FireFly_> It is possible that the bootloader switch the backlight of the remote (iriver) on 14.59.01 # <_FireFly_> or isn't enough free space to add this to the bootloader 15.00.23 # btw are fadings in remote backlight possible? 15.00.33 # muesli-: no 15.00.43 # oh :( 15.01.02 # why not? 15.01.22 # muesli-: the electro-luminesent lighting in the remote can't stand the kind of pulse width modulation that's possible with normal LED's 15.01.41 # it has three states. on. off. or burning out 15.01.43 # :) 15.01.49 # well.. ;) 15.02.02 # in that third state, does it fade? ;-P 15.02.16 # <_FireFly_> only once i think :) 15.02.21 # hehe 15.02.32 # at least though ;) 15.03.04 # <_FireFly_> but what about my question ?? 15.03.32 # yes it is possible, but no I don't think it belongs there 15.03.52 # l8er.. 15.05.22 # <_FireFly_> i tried it to add this to the bootloader but it said that there weren't enought iram left 15.05.32 # iram? 15.05.41 # why have it in iram? 15.05.50 # <_FireFly_> i don't know 15.06.14 # <_FireFly_> maybe i had add it to the wronk function wich is in iram 15.06.19 # <_FireFly_> wrong 15.06.23 # oh well, I'm not that fluent in the bootloader internals 15.06.41 # Slasheri: Where and when does it print the "rebuilding cache" text now? Can't test right now, iriver @home.. 15.07.37 # _FireFly_: The bootloader only ever uses iram or flash itself, never uses dram 15.07.52 # Otherwise it wouldn't be able to load the new image there... 15.08.12 # <_FireFly_> so then it isn't currently possible to add this to the bootloader 15.09.01 # well it could use dram temporarily 15.09.18 # :-) 15.09.20 # <_FireFly_> because it would be nice if the bootloader indicates that he is running by switching the backlight of the remote on 15.10.03 Quit paugh (".") 15.10.10 # <_FireFly_> or he could also display an text when the hold is on :) 15.10.14 # personally I like "I'm now started beep" of the original iriver fw 15.12.43 # amiconn: only when enabling the cache first time (or disabling it, rebooting and enabling again) 15.12.56 # or if the reserve space runs out.. 15.13.16 # <_FireFly_> i must go cu you later 15.13.20 Quit _FireFly_ ("IceChat - Its whips the llama's butt") 15.14.53 Join dwihno_ [0] (n=dw@81.8.224.89) 15.14.56 # Hmm, i was just thinkin if i could build the bdm for H320 if i manage to buy it from ebay.. But it seems the coldfire is more complicated and simply an interface cable with computer wouldn't be enough 15.15.58 # someone asked could he build its own BDM for iriver and linus replyed him that it's very difficult 15.16.06 # timing issues etc (iirc) 15.16.29 # ah, yes.. it would require a microcontroller 15.17.08 # :/ 15.17.15 # Slasheri: we could very likely sponsor you a BDM 15.17.37 # Hmm.. :) 15.18.05 # really? 15.18.07 # they're available for USD150 15.18.53 # But first i need to get the unit from ebay somehow.. Now to a lecture, see you soon -> 15.18.54 Quit dwihno (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.22.50 # ah, there is wlan :) 15.23.16 Quit muesli- (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 15.23.31 # Slasheri: dircaching is still not interrupted on shutdown, is it? 15.23.51 # markun: no, but it will be fixed on next commit :) 15.24.01 # nice 15.33.57 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A47225.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.34.10 # <_FireFly_> so i'm back :) 15.36.54 # hm, B4gder, why the logbot thinks that the current year is 105 ? :) 15.37.16 # it is almost taiwanese! 15.37.21 # :-) 15.37.25 # hehe 15.37.35 # although they're on year 94 15.37.53 # but ok, I am lame 15.37.58 # 11 years in the future... not so much :) 15.38.36 # localtime() returns year as year - 1900 15.39.16 # <_FireFly_> :) 15.39.16 # aha :) i supposed something similar 15.39.31 # and for < 2000 years, it looks ok 15.40.24 # just add 1900 to it and it's ok :P 15.40.29 # yep 15.40.45 # I guess it shows how old that thing is 15.41.40 # the interesting part is that nobody told this before.. most probably nobody cares... 15.42.51 # to tell the truth, I'm not sure if we run the very latest code or not 15.46.17 # <|Lupin|> Pls: who is responsible of the voice handling code for Iriver ? 15.46.44 # slasheri wrote it 15.47.27 # <|Lupin|> thanks ! 15.47.37 # for nothing 15.48.02 # <|Lupin|> :) 15.51.17 Quit ashridah ("sleep.") 15.52.20 # B4gder: Hmm, and logbot still can't explain anything :( 15.52.32 # * amiconn wonders why he recovered the whole list... 15.52.36 # nope 15.56.09 # In case anyone is interested in crossfeed: http://130.89.160.166/rockbox/crossfeed.iriver 15.56.33 # amiconn: you wonder why you recovered it? 15.58.31 # i can only guess that you did it because you think it's a fun feature of logbot 15.59.01 # i spent hours trying to figure out why the explain feature has stopped working in logbot 15.59.42 # then i ran out of time and had to do more important stuff 16.00.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.00.08 # and then i forgot about it 16.03.13 # logbot can explain me things? 16.04.00 # LinusN: I think it has to do with user rights in logbot 16.04.15 # One needs sufficient rights in order to use the expadd command 16.05.02 # yes, but logbot should at least explain the stuff that is already in the database 16.05.19 # now it doesn't explain anything at all 16.12.10 # XavierGr: Did you try the crossfeed build? 16.17.08 # LinusN: Are there some default entries in the database? 16.18.21 # LinusN: sounds like a privilege level thing 16.18.43 *** Server message 505: 'logbot :Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. 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( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )' 16.21.59 # I suspect there is nothing in the explain database since you updated the server installation 16.25.50 # is crossfeed a plugin? 16.27.05 # No, it's a dsp effect. 16.27.42 # how do I use it? 16.27.58 # I was looking for a crossfeed effect 16.28.00 # Just run crossfeed.iriver and listen using headphones. 16.28.16 # I mean how do I install it? 16.28.47 # You can compare the sound by first listening to the sound with rockbox.iriver and then crossfeed.iriver. 16.29.00 # You can just put it on your iriver and run it. 16.29.10 # .. click on it 16.29.10 # oic 16.29.39 # I will make it optional so you can turn it on and off, but right now it's always on. 16.30.06 # It uses quite some CPU though. Preglow will look into optimizing it some more. 16.30.12 # Rockbox is so darned clever 16.30.59 # sounds good 16.31.24 # I always have a problem listening to stuff on headphones because I get that weird balancing effect 16.31.35 # Do you have some songs whith extreme panning? Sounds coming from only one speaker. 16.31.36 # crossfeed solves that for me 16.31.41 # yeah sometimes 16.31.50 # it drives me crazy 16.32.04 # sounds like a pumping effect from one ear to the other 16.32.18 # crossfeed solves that problem for me 16.32.47 # Yes, that's why I made it. The effect is very strong on old albums like The Beatles and Jimi Hendrix, but also some newer albums. 16.33.05 # looking forward to an optimized version. I will use it all the time thanks :) 16.33.31 # I got a lot of dance music that goes mad on pans and weird spreads 16.34.23 # this sounds nicey nice 16.34.27 # Just tell me if you find any problems with it. The volume is quite a bit lower, but I don't know if that can be fixed. 16.34.37 Quit B4gder ("time to say moo") 16.34.49 # hmm. not noticed 16.35.09 # sounds as loud as ever to me 16.35.24 # Hm, well, it shouldn't :) 16.35.49 # I always have it all the way up with no eq on 16.36.02 Join muesli- [0] (i=muesli_t@hmln-d5147616.pool.mediaWays.net) 16.36.10 # Wow.. what kind of headphones do you have? 16.36.31 # Sen PX100's 16.36.48 # I like my bass end 16.37.02 # I'm listening with Koss Porta Pro at about 70% right now. 16.37.09 # I have those too 16.37.16 # lets test 16.37.19 # Normally at 65 16.38.20 # The Porta Pro's sounds almost exactly like the PX100's to my ears 16.39.13 # In fact I'd say the PX100's have the edge. Bit more bass end. Porta Pro's are a little more mid range 16.39.49 # PX100's have a more rounded bottom 16.39.55 # and clearer highs 16.40.07 # I've never listened to the PX100's. I believe that HCl has a pair, maybe I can try them out sometime. 16.40.12 # You might not like them if you like it more punchy in the middle 16.40.21 # yeah do so 16.40.29 # there is a difference but not a major one 16.40.45 # I like the sound of the PX100's and they are more comfy 16.40.57 # I cut a hole in the foam of my porta pro's to get more highs. 16.41.13 # heh 16.41.23 # yeah the foams can be a bit dead 16.41.50 # I'd love to try some Sure EC2's or EC3's 16.42.18 # Me too. Do you by any chance have the sony ex71? 16.42.26 # no 16.42.41 # the shure e3's are ok 16.42.45 # but weak bass 16.42.50 # get the new shure e4's instead 16.42.57 # hmmm how much? 16.43.04 # They're too expensive for me I think. 16.43.25 # the problem with them are that they are so expensive I want to try them before buying. 16.43.32 # how much what Rori 16.43.34 # but very few places allow testing in-ear headphones 16.43.39 # indeed 16.43.47 # markun: Can you explain me what this firmware does? 16.44.03 # I got burned by the Etymotics and don't trust other people's ears any more.., 16.44.03 # Sure e4's 16.44.36 # XavierGr: It tries to make the music sound a bit like when you listen to speakers instead of headphones. 16.44.50 # Rori: about $300 16.44.54 # * Rori 's jaw drops 16.45.03 # 8O 16.45.10 # strange! I will try it... 16.45.15 # There are some songs that make you dizzy with headphones because the use of stereo is so extreme. 16.45.15 # yeah. so it's not something you want to buy on chance. 16.45.21 # ~8O 16.45.32 # I'd go for the E2C's 16.45.41 # I really like my shure e3's 16.45.42 # ah you mean when they change between channels too fast? 16.45.46 # <_FireFly_> markun have you a complete patch somewhere ?? 16.45.46 # primarily for sleeping;) 16.46.02 # I heard they are good for bass 16.46.09 # I have shure e2c great phones, though not for a quick fit. 16.46.15 # But E3's are a bit light on bass 16.46.23 # hmm 16.46.25 # _FireFly_: I can make a patch, but I still didn't make a setting to enable or disable it.. 16.46.50 # I need to find a proper headfi shop and preview them 16.46.51 # hmm 16.46.55 # not bad markun 16.47.00 # <_FireFly_> that is no problem maybe i add an option :) 16.47.05 # but you are right, it does lower volume quite a bit 16.48.21 # it's especially bad in combination with voice 16.48.28 # yeah reloaded rockbox and volume is way higher 16.48.42 # amiconn: yes, the database has default entries 16.48.46 # because the voice when browsing is so loud compared to the music 16.49.19 # shit how can you listen as low as 70% volume? :) 16.49.32 # it's like a whisper to me 16.49.35 # _FireFly_: http://130.89.160.166/rockbox/crossfeed.diff 16.49.52 # 100% all the way dude 16.49.54 # 70% is slightly below the pain limit for me with my EX70's 16.49.54 # Rori: Maybe we have different hearing? 16.50.04 Nick dwihno_ is now known as dwihno (n=dw@81.8.224.89) 16.50.19 # LinusN was talking about on Porta Pro's or Senn PX100's 16.50.33 # I just love LOUD! :) 16.50.41 # Fat bass from my dance music 16.50.53 # probably why my hearing is a bit fubar :D 16.51.08 # <_FireFly_> then have fun with tinnitus ;) 16.51.14 # well with my shure e2c I can't get higher that 80-85! But with standart phones on crowded enviroment(always) up to 100! 16.51.23 # thegeek_: The voice files are already built scaled down to 70% of full level... 16.51.31 # yeah 16.51.36 # that's good for the normal build too 16.51.39 # yeah which is why I was thinking of getting some good in ear phones 16.51.47 # thegeek_: The low volume comes from the high- and low-pass filters. 16.51.48 # so I can have a bit of range 16.51.50 # but markun's crossfeed build is not as loud as normal loud 16.51.51 # Though I listen almost only classical music wich tends to have lower recorded levels 16.51.53 # hm 16.51.54 # mhm 16.52.20 # file under 'needs some tweaking' :) 16.52.26 # FireFly: I have tinnitus but because of a series of bad dives I made not listening to 100 16.52.40 # LinusN, Bagder, Zagor: What do you think about reversing the volume <-> treble/bass logic in rockbox too. I'm fed up by all these reports... 16.52.43 # ? 16.53.11 # <_FireFly_> yepp tinnitus doesn't came from hearing to too loud music/noice 16.53.14 # EQ is worthless to me 16.53.16 # lol 16.53.23 # it does weird stuff at full volume so I don't bother 16.53.26 # me too 16.53.45 # <_FireFly_> *only 16.53.51 # I went for a headscan the other day 16.53.57 # for hearing issues ;) 16.54.11 # gotta go back on the 28th of next month to see what they found if anything 16.54.26 # the normal hearing test they said my hearing is fine though 16.54.43 # I occasionally get earache, buzzing and tinitus 16.54.44 # tinnitus drived me mad in the first days, I was depressed by that damn thing! :( 16.55.01 # thought I'd get it checked out by an ENT 16.55.09 # <_FireFly_> don't concentrate on this 16.55.21 # Knowing that I will have this for the rest of my life...especially when you are involved in music a s a teacher. 16.55.36 # constant tinitus would drive me nuts 16.55.48 # tried vitamin supplements? 16.56.03 # no 16.56.08 # I hear there are various things you can do that may help 16.56.14 # <_FireFly_> you must ignore the tinnitus as far as you can 16.56.16 # google up on tinitus 16.56.37 # <_FireFly_> so that it doesn't teach your life 16.56.37 # I'd try a few remedies just for the hell of it anyhow 16.56.44 # yes I read that there are some tips to get it to lower volumes 16.56.56 # worth trying 16.56.59 # <_FireFly_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinnitus 16.57.20 # For the time being it is annoying when I try to sleep. 16.57.33 # But If I am tired I cant really give it attention. 16.58.03 # I love boasting about how Rockbox does this that and the other..."Oh your MP3 player doesn't have gapless? Bummer" :D 16.58.39 # the worst thing is sometimes when I listen to my favorite music this buzzing sound intereferes with music and I have the feeling that music is clipping. 16.59.23 # XavierGr I get that buzzing sometimes...usually when it's a high volume midrange frequency though 16.59.24 # When I told a guy from work I was adding crossfeed to rockbox he was annoyed that he has an ipod :) 16.59.31 # only in the left ear 16.59.35 # sounds like distortion 17.00.14 # yeah exactly it's in my left ear too. 17.00.15 # I have some light ringing in my left ear now from listening too loudly ;) 17.01.07 # I have a skin complaint that does not help. I get dry skin and hard wax buildup. Have to clean them regularly. 17.01.15 # <_FireFly_> ahm markun this isn't the complete patch is it?? 17.01.28 # <_FireFly_> because DSP_CROSSFEED isn't defined in this patch 17.01.32 # been using that Audiclean every couple of days 17.01.44 # _FireFly_: I commented it out, didn't I? 17.02.05 # <_FireFly_> oh yes 17.02.09 # I wish there was a way to bypass the ears and plug sound directly to the brain sometimes :) 17.02.23 # <_FireFly_> but i can't apply the patch 17.02.30 # Haha! 17.03.02 # <_FireFly_> some sort of tinnitus doesn't have to do with the ears 17.03.05 # _FireFly_: strange.. it's from an updated tree 17.03.17 # <_FireFly_> he say that he can't find the file 17.03.20 # _FireFly_: go to the apps dir and try again 17.03.55 # <_FireFly_> moep :) 17.04.13 # "moep" is that good? 17.04.26 # <_FireFly_> that isn't the right thing to make a patch 17.05.06 # <_FireFly_> moep doesn't mean anything ;) 17.05.14 Quit muesli- (No route to host) 17.05.27 # Sometimes rockbox shuts down after finishing a dir.. it just happened again :( 17.05.29 # <_FireFly_> ups does 17.05.41 # <_FireFly_> argh 17.06.13 # <_FireFly_> i mean that it doesn't mean anything 17.06.54 # I've had rockbox crash a few times...pin in hole to reset 17.07.20 # _FireFly_: but does the patch work now? 17.07.23 # It may be the wps it does not like I am unsure. I have not seen it crash yet with default settings 17.07.26 # <_FireFly_> yepp 17.07.34 # %acVol:%pv-%?mp>-%?ps-%?mf<|%?ma> 17.07.51 # why is this wrong? 17.08.02 # I want with ifs to print in the screen the status of playback 17.09.33 # opps I know I dont close the else statements 17.09.59 # <_FireFly_> ;) 17.11.09 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 17.17.10 # <_FireFly_> markun: yepp the volume is a little bit lower then without crossfeed 17.17.28 # grrr I cant get it to work!! 17.17.46 # sorry for this but... 17.17.49 # %?mp<-Play|%?mu<-Pause|%?mw<-FastFwd|%?mb<-FastRw|>>>> 17.18.03 # This will not display anything to me. 17.19.05 # <_FireFly_> ähm mu mw mb doen*t exist 17.19.09 # <_FireFly_> doesn't 17.19.44 # <_FireFly_> %?mp<%xda|%xdb|%xdc|%xdd|%xde> so is mine 17.20.27 # <_FireFly_> %?mp http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS#Playback_mode_tags 17.20.27 Quit solexx_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.20.36 # but the CUSTOM_WPS_FORMAT in the rockbox dir says mp e.t.c? 17.20.43 # I guess it is outdated then 17.21.22 # <_FireFly_> yepp 17.23.00 # Is there a chance to render a stop condition into WPS? 17.23.03 Join actionshrimp [0] (i=dave@dhcp-163-1-214-173.seh.ox.ac.uk) 17.23.13 # I thought that when you press stop the wps quits to the tree. 17.23.33 # <_FireFly_> afaik currently not 17.24.42 # <_FireFly_> we had to stay in wps when pressing stop to render the stop image 17.25.11 # <_FireFly_> as the iriver fw does 17.34.55 # Staying in the while *playing* screen doesn't make much sense to me when nothing is playing... 17.36.35 # I agree with amiconn, but then why inlcude a stop state for the wps? 17.38.33 Join solexx [0] (n=jrschulz@d051210.adsl.hansenet.de) 17.40.10 Join Philip_0729 [0] (n=Philip_0@user-963.lns6-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk) 17.57.17 Join DangerousDan [0] (n=Miranda@newtpulsifer.campus.luth.se) 18.00.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.00.58 Part Philip_0729 18.22.58 Quit |Lupin| ("leaving") 18.24.15 # <_FireFly_> XavierGr: the %mp tag doesn't realy include the stop state the stop state is only the default state-value, which will be return if no other state are set 18.32.22 Join einhirn [0] (i=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 18.38.34 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 18.40.06 Join hd- [0] (i=hd@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 18.55.39 Join hd_ [0] (i=hd@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 18.56.15 Quit hd (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.03.47 Quit hd- (Connection timed out) 19.17.14 Quit Bger (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.23.57 Nick Lynx_ is now known as Lynx_awy (n=lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 19.52.58 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ipa96.6.tellas.gr) 19.58.24 Part LinusN 19.58.25 Quit _FireFly_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.00.07 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A47225.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.00.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.00.09 # "Jon Lech Johansen, the 21-year-old Norwegian media hacker nicknamed DVD Jon, is moving to San Diego to work for maverick tech entrepreneur Michael Robertson in what can only be described as the most portentous team-up since Butch met Sundance. 20.00.11 # " 20.00.24 # bummer 20.03.34 Join ep0ch [0] (n=ep0ch@81-6-230-220.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk) 20.04.42 # does anyone have a dead ihp-120 i can salvage one bit from? 20.05.48 # namely the plastic play/stop/a-b/hold switch cover 20.09.32 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 20.09.49 # heh 20.09.56 # my hold switch is broken on the inside 20.10.11 # the actual slider-switch had the small plastic bit broken off 20.11.24 # the plastic bit broke in two whilst taking my player apart. I was trying to find out why the HD had died again :( 20.11.42 # so not only do i have to buy a new disk i also might need some superglue! 20.24.22 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.24.27 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 20.31.14 Quit ep0ch ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 20.38.13 Join dpassen1 [0] (n=dpassen1@resnet-233-61.resnet.UMBC.EDU) 20.40.31 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.50.54 Quit AEnertia ("Off do my thesis") 21.04.57 Quit bluebrother^ ("rebooting ...") 21.08.31 # i managed to break some plastic around that part myself 21.08.37 # while being very careful 21.10.00 # ot question: I need a sample of an ALAC (apple lossless) file. anyone might be able to help ? 21.15.13 Quit tvelocity ("Leaving") 21.18.06 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ipa96.6.tellas.gr) 21.20.01 # preglow: I think it would be useful to add the special handling for .ibss to plugins and codecs as well 21.32.07 # why? 21.32.51 # I think most of the iram data in codecs is uninitialised, so it would save quite some space in the binary 21.33.49 # -> faster load, faster init (clearing iram is certainly faster than copying from dram to iram), and perhaps a reduced codec ram area 21.36.38 # sure 21.38.10 # that sound good :-) 21.38.32 # * amiconn just committed the iram changes 21.43.20 # so i see 21.48.20 # I didn't touch codecs and plugins for now, I just added the possibility to use the 2 new sections 21.49.00 # They can be converted one by one. We can then check the .map files whether it's worth to add special .ibss handling 21.59.40 Quit dpassen1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.00.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.00.31 # does anyone know how to remove all cariage returns (linefeeds) from a word document? 22.00.45 # <_FireFly_> *.doc ?? 22.00.58 # i don't think there is such a problem with word documents... 22.00.58 # yes 22.01.33 # it doesn't make sense if you're talking about .doc files 22.03.01 # well I have a text sent to me by email. When I copy paste to Word linefeeds are present when the line is not full and that is annoying, also the text is large and I don't have time and patience to remove them all manually. 22.03.23 # You can do that with search & replace in word 22.03.52 # search and replace what, I cant represent the linefeed 22.04.04 # or how can I do that? Which character is the linefeed? 22.04.18 # <_FireFly_> \r 22.04.41 # <_FireFly_> or 13 dez 22.05.17 # "13 dez" 22.05.21 # XavierGr: There is a button in the search dialog to select special characters from 22.06.32 # ok I will try and see... 22.08.11 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 22.09.28 Join Seedy [0] (i=ben@85-64-200-85.barak-online.net) 22.11.14 # no I can't find the linefeeds it is getting on my nerves 22.12.16 # <_FireFly_> linefeed or cariage return ?? 22.13.14 # <_FireFly_> http://www.lookuptables.com/ 22.13.15 # when copied to notepad2 (with the option to show such symbols) I get a CR LF symbol. 22.14.00 # <_FireFly_> thats right for windows new-line representation 22.15.22 # <_FireFly_> mac has only CR and all *nix have LF as new-line 22.19.37 # I manually deleted all the CR but I want to learn it for further uses. :X 22.19.54 # <_FireFly_> ?? 22.20.05 # <_FireFly_> why do you want to delete the CRs 22.21.28 # because the line while not full breaks to a new one, and that is unacceptable. 22.22.10 # <_FireFly_> ?? 22.23.29 # I will explain latter my brother has to write that document, let me get back to you later, thanks for the help anyway. 22.29.43 Join DrMoos [0] (i=DrMoos@m79.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 22.30.22 # amiconn: thought any more about the wakeup timer? 22.30.27 Quit Moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.31.02 Join muesli- [0] (i=muesli_t@hmln-d9b8efa8.pool.mediaWays.net) 22.31.07 # can anybody help me with easytag? 22.31.30 # <_FireFly_> if i can 22.31.33 # i have some track.flac files and want to tag them with cddb lookup 22.31.36 Nick DrMoos is now known as Moos (i=DrMoos@m79.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 22.31.47 # lookup works fine, but how do i apply the tags!? 22.32.11 # currently, i select all files, do the lookup and click 'apply' 22.32.13 # re 22.32.35 # but nothing happens 22.32.45 # the ui is pretty weird... 22.33.07 # www.mp3tag.de another great tagger if ur not satisfied with your tool 22.33.27 # <_FireFly_> for linux ?? 22.33.32 # well 22.33.34 # yes, linux preferably 22.33.36 # erm 22.33.38 # noo 22.33.43 # <_FireFly_> muesli-: ;) 22.33.47 # but probably i shoudl simply reboot 22.33.50 # sorry...its for windoof 22.33.54 # preglow: yes 22.34.09 # although i don't know whether my win installation is working at all :-) 22.34.13 # it's been some time... 22.34.38 Join matsl_ [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 22.35.34 # dammit, i'll try to use win 22.35.54 # i'll be back in a minute 22.35.57 # <_FireFly_> by me it works 22.36.25 # <_FireFly_> i have select my files then run the cddb-search 22.36.54 # <_FireFly_> and select the right entry and hit apply and it had changed my tags 22.38.44 # _FireFly_: do you select every single file plus the corresponding entry? 22.39.00 # amiconn: anything come out of it yet?= 22.39.24 # <_FireFly_> solexx: yepp 22.39.39 # I think it's perfectly doable, as a plugin, even without changing something in today's rockbox core 22.39.48 # ah, i thought i could do it for all files with one command 22.39.59 # Of course this plugin would have to fiddle with the hardware 22.40.16 # omg, i have firefox 1.0.2 running here 22.40.27 # <_FireFly_> where under windows 22.40.31 # yep 22.40.36 # Before starting to implement this, I need to do some power measurements for different hardware states 22.40.37 # <_FireFly_> ouch 22.40.40 # <_FireFly_> a bit old 22.40.53 # and win is busy downloading patches :9 22.41.57 # fsck 22.42.14 # i forgot that i have put all my flacs on an ext3 partition 22.42.41 # preglow: The idea is as follows: The plugin would start running as a standard plugin, and ask you to set a wake up time, possibly checling the battery state and limiting the maximum delay etc 22.43.46 # does anybody have experience with ext2ifs (http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm) under winxp sp2? 22.44.12 # <_FireFly_> solexx: it works bud i think you can only do it one album at once 22.44.31 # _FireFly_: what exactly? 22.44.51 # <_FireFly_> tag you files with cddb lookup over easytag 22.45.05 # hm, i thought i tried that 22.45.09 # will do again 22.45.32 # i am not enough of a hero to use a beta fs driver for windows 22.45.56 # o-o 22.45.58 # icq failed. 22.46.07 # anyways 22.46.11 # * HCl prods muesli- 22.46.21 Join LWi [0] (n=LWi@dslb-084-063-009-144.pools.arcor-ip.net) 22.46.24 # Once you press "Go", a no-return process starts. First, everything non-critical would be switched off, like lcd and harddisk. CPU will be set either to bypass (11MHz) and pll powered down, or the lowest possible frequency with pll (6.25 MHz), depending on what needs less power. Then some code and a new vector table would be copied to iram. In this stage interrupts must be disabled, and yield must not be called anymore. 22.46.26 # that makedb.bat for that java thing is extremely wrong, i never wrote that either o-o 22.46.44 Part LWi 22.46.57 # <_FireFly_> i have select the files open the cd-database search and hit the search button and he gaves my the possible entrys which fits to the filename 22.47.03 # hcl? 22.47.07 # yes? o.o 22.47.17 # or wasn't that icq messenger you 22.47.21 # in that case i'm confused to who it was. 22.47.31 # sure that was me ;) 22.47.36 # k :p 22.47.37 # sorry 22.47.39 # my icq died 22.47.41 # np ;) 22.47.42 # its working again 22.47.44 # anyways. 22.47.46 # i c 22.47.52 # The IRAM code would switch off the DRAM refresh, and then go to sleep with a once-per-second timer interrupt. After the selected time has passed, it would reboot the unit by jumping to the appropriate ROM address. Activate resume on startup beforehand (could be done by the plugin) and voila! 22.47.54 # that makedb.bat is completely wrong 22.48.08 # my dos .bat scripting is rusty 22.48.27 # but the first line should definately read java -jar SongDB.jar --dirisalbumname 22.48.38 # and then probably / behind it 22.48.47 # java -jar SongDB.jar --dirisalbumname / 22.50.16 # <_FireFly_> good night everybody 22.50.55 # good night and thanks for your help 22.50.59 # <_FireFly_> np 22.51.03 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 22.51.46 Join dsas [0] (n=AnarchY@85.100.200.28) 22.51.51 # hi all 22.52.01 # anyone help to me ? 22.52.08 # for about HDD UNLOCK 22.52.36 # HCl: What's wrong with the script? It does exactly what you said, except the ---dirisalbumname option 22.52.45 # i don't know, muesli- reported it broken 22.52.54 # It works 22.52.58 Nick dsas is now known as Bromx (n=AnarchY@85.100.200.28) 22.53.03 # java -jar SongDB.jar --dirisalbumname / 22.53.08 # i forgot the last slash 22.53.08 # anyone is there ? 22.53.43 # help for HDD unlock ? 22.54.41 # Do you have the key? 22.54.52 # hdd unlock? how did you lock it? 22.55.04 # If so, utilities from your manufacturer should have a program to lock and unlock. 22.55.44 # Hah, just realize this was the #rockbox channel, opps. 22.57.40 # anyway..how did you lock it? 22.58.21 # ý doýnt know 22.58.29 # its unlocked ata password 22.58.35 # but I dont know it password 22.58.59 # how unlock it ? 23.01.33 # http://www.rockbox.org/lock.html 23.01.48 # I have it, 23.01.51 # this concerned archos players? 23.01.59 # but it says to me use ata password 23.02.04 # I have ata password 23.02.10 # but its ask to me 23.02.21 # enter hdd password 23.02.26 # so I dont know it 23.02.30 # muesli-: all hard drives have this feature 23.02.30 Quit muesli- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.02.45 Join muesli- [0] (i=muesli_t@hmln-d9b8e248.pool.mediaWays.net) 23.03.07 # muesli- 23.03.10 # what is archos ? 23.03.14 # well, the details are all in that page 23.03.37 # hmmm 23.03.43 # Bagder, whats is archor 23.03.44 # Bromx a mp3 player like iriver 23.03.48 # hmmm 23.03.50 # umm 23.03.53 # Bromx: this is #rockbox 23.04.01 # I know 23.04.29 # Rockbox works for Archos and iriver music players 23.04.38 # hmmm 23.04.40 # ok ok 23.04.59 # I think, rockbox is unlock my computer harddisk 23.05.45 # rockbox cannot unlock it, no 23.05.53 # reread that page 23.05.54 # ohhhhhhh 23.06.08 # During development of the Rockbox firmware, 23.06.12 # I dont see them 23.06.13 # :( 23.06.22 # see what? 23.06.37 # Grab atapwd (written by Alex Mina) 23.06.37 # Create a bootable DOS floppy disk, and put atapwd.exe on it 23.06.43 # I see it 23.06.46 # and I think, 23.07.21 Join sa0 [0] (n=sao@AMontsouris-151-1-56-73.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr) 23.07.22 # amiconn i've just creatéd my database..how do i activate it? 23.07.47 # hi all 23.07.47 # amiconn: hmm, didn't consider it being a plugin before 23.07.48 Quit Bromx () 23.07.56 # first ... big thx for IriverPort 23.08.00 # amiconn: any reason for doing it that way? just to minimise bloat? 23.08.21 # just wanted to know if there is any (even experimental) remote support ? 23.08.29 # sa0: there is 23.08.35 # as far as i can see, the controls work 23.08.37 # oh oh 23.08.49 # remote LCD support ? 23.09.04 # displaying playing title ... 23.09.06 # just RockBox on it, but i think there's a patch 23.09.33 # can someone help with this ? 23.09.48 # Bagder: hi, not looked at the TiMiD patch for multi screen suport? 23.09.55 # nope 23.10.00 # :) 23.10.03 # no time 23.10.22 # and your V2 localisation :D 23.10.24 # ? 23.10.35 # no time too? 23.10.46 # none at all 23.10.49 # preglow: plugin or not, the technique would be very similar. It's easier to start with a plugin though 23.12.19 # In fact it might make sense to put this in the core, perhaps moving the vector table into iram as well 23.13.17 # The bad thing with the vector table on coldfire is that it must be located on an 1 MB boundary, so it has to be placed at the start of iram 23.27.07 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@labb.contactor.se) 23.31.43 # hi LinusN! 23.31.57 # hi 23.32.25 # long time no see... 23.33.00 # yup 23.42.45 Quit JoeBorn (Nick collision from services.) 23.43.29 Join JoeBorn-having [0] (n=jborn@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 23.47.29 Quit DangerousDan ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 23.57.39 # LinusN: Any tips what I could try in order to get the lcd of your oldplayer to work? 23.58.01 # well, clean it and reseat it :-) 23.58.07 # The player works, complete with a new "-" button, except the display