--- Log for 08.11.105 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 3 days and 19 hours ago 00.07.41 # Bager: You wanted a commit.... 00.07.48 # Bagder: (see above) 00.08.45 # and a nice one it is! 00.09.17 # ooooh! 00.09.23 # I'll wait to see what happens, and then do the final commit - tools/configure and the bootloader itself. 00.09.47 # let me know if it helps anything to add any builds to the table 00.09.51 # linuxstb: btw, wouldn't it be better to have CONFIG_CPU defined as ARM7 or something=? 00.10.03 # preglow: Details.... 00.10.10 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m79.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 00.10.22 # just thinking of future arm ports, hehe 00.10.26 # I don't think that define is used yet anyway. 00.10.57 # Neuros N3 is not an unlikely future ARM target 00.11.02 # but ARM9 00.11.10 # Please don't be too critical of my code - it's very much a work in progress. Lots of it is incomplete or just plain wrong at the moment. 00.11.19 Join DJDD [0] (n=DJDD@220-245-186-182.static.tpgi.com.au) 00.12.25 # nice solid commit 00.12.59 # Bagder: Still no link... 00.13.11 # no, that's why I wait for the next commit 00.13.52 # and the server get bogged with stuff to do at midnight, so its running way longer to do this latest build 00.16.32 # Ok, I'll wait until the running build finished 00.16.38 # I just need to hit return 00.16.51 # linuxstb already committed stuff for another round 00.17.13 Join RotAtoR [0] (n=e@12-210-82-91.client.insightBB.com) 00.17.15 # Okay, then I'll queue up the next round... 00.18.51 # I did my first "fix" just assuming it worked in a particular way, only to then find out it didn't and now I believe it works 00.22.26 Join DrMoos [0] (i=DrMoos@m79.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 00.23.45 Quit Moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.24.54 Quit Febs ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.30.03 Nick DrMoos is now known as Moos (i=DrMoos@m79.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 00.36.44 Quit Kohlrabi ("Leaving") 00.38.05 Join muesli_- [0] (i=muesli_t@A951c.a.pppool.de) 00.38.42 # Teh server went to sleep... 00.39.02 # 00:38:55 up 83 days, 10:37, 8 users, load average: 6.41, 6.75, 7.07 00.39.08 # re 00.39.40 # the build stuff is running on a low prio 00.39.50 # so when something big starts, the build suffers 00.40.12 # and "big" currently means some xemacs regression testing it seems 00.43.44 # emacs :/ 00.44.04 # everything involving that's got to be a big task 00.44.18 # these days emacs doesn't count as big 00.44.31 # think eclipse 00.44.34 # ;-) 00.44.51 # haha 00.44.54 # at least as editors go 00.45.08 # though calling it an editor is something of an understatement 00.53.39 Quit Moos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.55.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.56.25 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m79.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 00.56.29 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-122-235.VIC.netspace.net.au) 00.56.43 # crap 00.57.46 # Damn it, where Lunis when ya need him 00.57.52 # Linus, rather 00.58.16 # the link turned up, but got broken 01.00.33 # oh well, perhaps it works now... 01.00.58 # Anyone here know their stuff about the hardware inside a H140 and H120? 01.04.58 # linuxstb: Funny #ifdef in lcd.h - both typedefs look identical to me... 01.06.29 # amiconn: That's true. My first implementation had it using "unsigned short* address" but I changed it back to char. I'll fix it. 01.06.37 # Ah, yes 01.07.12 # I also wonder about the in() and out() macros, why there are no macros for the port addresses instead? 01.08.07 # For now I've just copy and pasted from the ipl source code. I'll be cleaning it up in the future. 01.08.12 # those in and out things are artifacts from the linux kernel 01.08.47 # ah 01.09.04 # ample time to clean up later, after we've got a nice shiny rockbox running on an ipod! 01.09.22 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 01.09.22 # * Bagder runs off to bed 01.09.59 # I wonder how the ipl guys remember what all these port addresses are doing... 01.10.46 # The Rockbox source isn't that much better in lots of places. 01.12.51 Join crashedh120 [0] (n=543c815b@labb.contactor.se) 01.14.48 # hi there. i´m a little bit in panic now, would be great if somebody could help me 01.15.02 # hi there. i´m a little bit in panic now, would be great if somebody could help me 01.16.02 # hm. something semms not to work with irc in my case. gonna reconnect 01.16.09 Part crashedh120 01.17.14 Join crashed_h120 [0] (n=543c815b@labb.contactor.se) 01.17.33 # so 01.17.46 # i wont even bother asking why you're here, heh 01.17.48 Quit muesli_- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.18.11 # hallo 01.18.26 # how's it crashed? 01.19.06 # crashed_h120: what's the problem? 01.19.35 # huffsv7.c:70: warning: this decimal constant is unsigned only in ISO C90 01.19.40 # anyone know what that's supposed to mean? 01.20.18 # hello! my h120 just felt out of my pocket and now the harddrive is going crazy.what steps am i suppost to to, which tools are the right to rescue the damaged data? 01.20.32 # hello! my h120 just felt out of my pocket and now the harddrive is going crazy.what steps am i suppost to to, which tools are the right to rescue the damaged data? 01.20.40 # please, man, once is enough 01.21.07 # to extract the hard drive, you need a small torx screwdriver 01.21.26 # but i don't think there's much you can do unless you've got a 1.8" hard drive adapter 01.21.54 # try inserting an usb cable, then swithcing the unit on to see if your os can read the drive by usb 01.22.33 # crashed_h120: to be honest, if you've dropped it while it's on, any attempt you make at using the drive is probably going to make things worse, since i imagine the read head has hit the platter and scratched it, probably damaging the head too 01.22.37 # sry double postings 01.22.53 # lol, by tools i mean software, sry 01.22.54 # yes, you're probably fighting a lost cause 01.23.14 # crashed_h120: if you can't connect by usb, you have no chance of doing it by software 01.23.23 # how valuable is the data you've got on it? 01.23.50 # rockbox is booting, but lots of folders are damaged, its crashing while its trying to read them 01.24.37 # crashed_h120: stop using the device, you're only likely to make it worse. 01.25.31 # unfortenatly i dropped it while it was reading from the harddrive :( 01.25.39 # ahah 01.25.45 # worst case 01.26.00 # you've almost certainly had a head crash 01.26.07 # its the music i love...can´t imagine running arounf without it 01.26.21 # no, but you're most certainly going to have to 01.27.00 # * ashridah notes that he never keeps anything solely on his iriver for this exact reason 01.27.37 # crashed_h120: your hard drive is most likely completely screwed, AND it's potentially going to keep on damaging itself every time you try to use it 01.27.47 # you're more or less out of luck, the hard drive is physically damaged, and the only thing even making it still try, is pure luck 01.28.10 # if luck it can be called 01.28.30 # so, the question is, how valuable is the data to you, and how much are you willing to spend to get it? 01.29.03 # note that software's probably not an option, you'd need a professional disk recovery service, that will take the disk apart and start charging you thousands of dollars an hour to *maybe* get the data back. 01.29.52 # i see...im just copying what´s still able to be copied and then i will hope it won´t get worser 01.30.22 # it *will* get worse for sure 01.30.30 # no question about it 01.30.31 # * ashridah agrees 01.31.28 # i just can´t afford to send it to a specialized lab or somethin... 01.31.41 # then lets hope you don't have anything you can't loose on it 01.32.11 # crashed_h120: i assume the music you've got on it is stuff you can't reproduce? live recordings? 01.32.32 Join ehntoo [0] (n=ehntoo@24-177-146-220.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) 01.33.28 # will have to save my money for a new 30gb drive 01.34.13 Quit ashridah ("need to finish leeching this torrent bbl") 01.34.43 # the irc is kind of slow.i write somethin and about 2 minutes later i read it myself 01.34.45 # if you do need to get a new drive: http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=T30MK3006L 01.35.07 # and that would probably be your connection 01.35.13 # how long before the 40 GB drives? 01.36.53 # i can rip most of the music again.i just paniced.thanks for helping me, i already calm down...iriver itself is ok so far...just having lots of work to do the next weeks as far as i can see 01.40.02 # whoa. I must have missed something. 01.40.17 # wince when is there going to be an iPod port? 01.41.40 # Since I decided to start work on it a couple of months ago. 01.42.32 # ah. 01.42.46 # meh... now you took my argument against my friend buying an iPod Video. 01.42.50 # =P 01.43.04 # it's not exactly been widely announced 01.44.08 # I guess the announcement has been made now. 01.44.44 # ehntoo: My code won't work on the iPod Video. The current targets are the Color/Photo and the Nano. 01.45.18 # Also, ipodlinux doesn't yet work on the iPod Video - but they seem to be making fast progress. 01.45.38 # ah. 01.46.05 # last I checked they didn't even support the color. 01.46.12 # that was a long time ago, though 01.46.43 # They don't "support" very much. But ipodlinux works on all ipods apart from the video and the shuffle. They have a special definition of the word "support". 01.46.46 # i´m sry so but so i understand that there is no software that could help me a little?(as far as i concern using the iriver the next time) 01.51.07 # the problem with your disk will likely get bigger and bigger the more you use it 01.51.10 # so no 01.51.23 # so far thanks a lot.gonna google how to "rescue" damged sectors ´n stuff. have a nice day 01.51.41 # same to you 01.51.47 # think i'll call it a night at that 01.51.48 # later all 01.51.54 # later. 01.53.03 # OK, final ipod commits have just been made. 01.58.04 # what about a new shiny photo with both logos? :) 01.58.45 # I tried. I'll try again... 02.02.57 Quit Moos ("Glory to Rockbox") 02.04.10 Quit crashed_h120 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.12.20 # no worries 02.16.27 # I tried and failed again. I must read the manual for my camera... 02.16.45 # Not sure if it's got a mode for taking photos of colour LCDs though. 02.19.10 # OK, here's the best of a bad batch: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/ipodboot2.jpg 02.20.17 # looks like you need to enable macro mode 02.20.23 # if the camera's got one 02.20.49 # if not, the only way of getting a clear picture is backing off a little 02.22.21 # man, having colour is good 02.22.49 # i really need to try myself a nano soon, to see if it's something i use 02.23.41 # but anywho, time for bed 02.23.49 # nice work, linuxstb, really looking forward to trying it myself 02.23.54 # * preglow vanishes 02.23.59 Quit DJDD ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 02.28.06 Join DJDD [0] (n=DJDD@220-245-186-182.static.tpgi.com.au) 02.29.23 # OK, I've finally got a decent photo - I've replaced the ipodboot2.jpg file with the new one. 02.45.16 Quit solexx_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.52.55 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-122-235.VIC.netspace.net.au) 02.55.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.01.53 Join StrathAFK [0] (n=mike@dpc674681214.direcpc.com) 03.02.10 # linuxstb: what's the current status with the ipod port? 03.02.53 Quit Strath (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.03.39 # linuxstb: mini! :-) 03.07.37 Quit ehntoo ("Leaving") 03.16.25 Join solexx [0] (n=jrschulz@c169178.adsl.hansenet.de) 03.20.24 Quit XShocK ("Leaving") 03.24.11 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 03.44.30 Join XShocK [0] (n=XShocK@centaur.acm.jhu.edu) 03.48.18 Quit solexx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.53.58 Join Igg-man [0] (n=kc0itq@rrcs-67-53-20-211.west.biz.rr.com) 03.54.58 # When stopping playback, sometimes I end up at root directory. Is there a way I can get it to always stay in the same directory as the file I was playing? 03.57.07 Join crushed_h120 [0] (n=543c8127@labb.contactor.se) 04.00.35 # for everybody who was helping me some hours ago: thank you.my ihp is playing. i know he has inoperable cancer now, but i hope one day i can affort a new brain.(for those who intersted: just copied each folder to hard disk, the folder he produced error mesages on i just deleted, so now i only got "clean" and tested folders, so far it works, just relaxing from stress with nora jones ;-) ) 04.01.16 # for everybody who was helping me some hours ago: thank you.my ihp is playing. i know he has inoperable cancer now, but i hope one day i can affort a new brain.(for those who intersted: just copied each folder to hard disk, the folder he produced error mesages on i just deleted, so now i only got "clean" and tested folders, so far it works, just relaxing from stress with nora jones ;-) ) 04.02.43 Join solexx [0] (n=jrschulz@c214026.adsl.hansenet.de) 04.03.44 # and again it takes 3,4 minutes to see somethin happening....(in the irc) i say goodbye and thanks again. and sry for double posts.i just don´t know if i sended a message or not 04.06.36 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp49-adsl-10.ath.forthnet.gr) 04.08.28 # and sry for all those mistakes: its late, very late, i got super red eyes, and i just had big stress. you guys kick ass. thanks for rockbox and support 04.17.15 Quit hardeep ("BitchX Lite I said!") 04.23.44 Quit crushed_h120 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 04.26.51 Join solexx_ [0] (n=jrschulz@c196057.adsl.hansenet.de) 04.33.22 Quit solexx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.39.18 Nick StrathAFK is now known as Strath (n=mike@dpc674681214.direcpc.com) 04.53.57 Join _user_ [0] (n=18d79b85@labb.contactor.se) 04.54.25 # <_user_> phaedrus961: are you there? 04.55.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.57.20 Quit solexx_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.06.54 Quit _user_ ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 05.12.38 Join banan_ [0] (i=banan@dalink.campus.luth.se) 05.22.56 Join solexx [0] (n=jrschulz@c196057.adsl.hansenet.de) 05.34.43 Quit merbanan (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.37.44 Join _user_ [0] (n=18d79b85@labb.contactor.se) 06.05.19 # <_user_> phaedrus961: did you get my message? 06.07.27 Quit DJDD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.13.08 Join wacky_ [0] (n=wacky@modemcable129.119-82-70.mc.videotron.ca) 06.15.50 Quit dpassen1 () 06.22.52 # _user_: sorry, I've been a bit busy. I'll try to upload an updated patch soon. 06.23.53 # <_user_> oh ok, take your time :) as long as you've acknowledged the problem 06.24.06 Join paugh [0] (n=kickback@2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:8000:0:3e03:6822) 06.25.23 # Yes I'm aware of it. 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Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )' 07.28.43 Quit _user_ ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 07.54.19 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 07.57.40 Join einhirn [0] (i=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 08.02.19 # morning :) 08.13.50 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=zeroirc@58.77.82.158) 08.14.28 # hey markun 08.16.03 # When iriver broke down, become complete if strike several times. :) 08.16.34 # So, I like Korean manufacture. 08.27.59 # Hm. Today's daily build doesn't play any song 08.28.21 # irrespective of codec (tried Vorbis, MP3 and FLAC) I get 'Codec Error' 08.47.13 Nick novimon_ is now known as novimon (n=novimon@a84-230-230-239.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 08.53.05 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.53.20 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 08.55.09 Quit paugh ("Leaving") 08.55.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.56.33 Quit Jungti1234 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.00.08 # solexx: I see some other people have posted the same problem on the forum. Have you tried the latest bleeding edge build? 09.08.54 # I've just downloaded the latest bleeding edge, and can confirm playback is broken for the iriver for all codecs. 09.11.38 # thanks for trying. I cannot test right now - don't have my USB cable with me 09.11.54 # * solexx had nothing to listen to on his way to work *sniff* 09.12.02 Join B4gder [0] (n=daniel@static-213-115-255-230.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se) 09.12.27 # maybe I should refrain from updating rockbox early in the morning :) 09.29.17 Join nevs27 [0] (i=lino@82.211.36.253) 09.30.52 # B4gder: To answer your question from last night, there is no rush to add the ipod builds to the automatic build system. They don't actually do anything useful and there are still a very large number of warnings generated anyway. 09.31.10 # ok 09.31.13 Join yngwi_away [0] (n=chatzill@chello080109107064.1.15.vie.surfer.at) 09.31.31 # its very easy to add a build, so just say the word when you're ready 09.31.54 # But if you want to install gcc in preparation, I'm using arm-elf-gcc 3.4.4 and the standard 2.16.tar.gz binutils. 09.35.31 Join Zagor [0] (n=bjst@194-237-150-170.customer.telia.com) 09.45.12 # I'll do that 09.51.04 # OK, thanks. 10.07.00 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-123-92.VIC.netspace.net.au) 10.10.17 # Uh! 10.10.25 # now my rockbox boots and runs directly from flash =) 10.10.33 # when i press rec+play to start it 10.10.45 # Nice. Any idea about speed? 10.10.53 # i couldn't even see the bootloader, instead i got immediately rockbox logo! :) 10.10.59 # i was a bit amazed ;) 10.11.04 # i will test soon 10.11.17 # unfortunately the latest commit seem to have broken the codecs or something 10.12.17 # Yes - there were a lot of commits last night. I don't have time to look at it myself now though. 10.12.34 # Slasher: heh. nifty, how long does it take the hard drive to catch up 10.12.36 # :) 10.13.25 Quit hardeep ("BitchX: to the rescue!") 10.13.45 # * B4gder makes another attempt to fix that darn link on the date of the build-line in the cvs build table 10.14.46 # ashridah: i cannot now measure the boot time because latest commits has "broken" the boot too, it takes a veery long time 10.15.13 # ashridah: but the disk starts to spin up about same time i got the logo on the screen 10.17.08 # cool 10.17.16 # I also got 236896 bytes more size to the audio buffer when running from flash 10.18.46 # You could potentially store all the codecs in ROM as well. 10.19.09 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=zeroirc@58.77.81.75) 10.19.34 # Slasher: Are you planning on adding the abilility to load the iriver firmware from disk? 10.19.43 # * ashridah manages to get himself killed in cold war yet again 10.19.45 # god damnit 10.27.59 # linuxstb: in future, yes 10.29.05 # linuxstb: true, we could store many things in the rom 10.50.52 # Jungti1234: hi 10.55.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.03.27 Join korpse [0] (i=korpse@rrba-146-77-149.telkomadsl.co.za) 11.03.54 # uhm hi 11.04.24 # hiya 11.05.57 # i'm looking through the rockbox site here, and i don't see any mention of the H10 11.06.05 # correct 11.06.09 # no h10 support 11.06.13 # alright 11.06.22 # next question, has the H100 series been discontinued? 11.06.30 # yes 11.06.56 # and there is no rockbox support for the H300 series? 11.07.06 # not yet, no 11.09.28 # alright 11.09.35 # so what is rockbox' main target device? 11.09.50 # Archos players and iriver h1x0 players for the moment 11.10.11 # the h1x0 player support is described as "partial" 11.10.27 # that's just because there has been no public release just yet 11.10.33 # ah 11.10.39 # we're all using rockbox exclusively on iriver since many months back 11.11.05 # I'd say it kicks the original firmware's butt big time 11.11.29 # yeah 11.11.33 # oh yes, i'd definitely agree there 11.11.35 # it rocks 11.11.37 # is it just me or does the H300 series seem inferior (as an audio player) to the H100 series 11.13.02 # yes I feel so too :) 11.13.46 # that is mildly (read: very) annoying 11.15.19 # Is the H10 the player based on the PP5020? 11.16.03 # i have no ide 11.16.05 # a 11.16.45 # according to http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PortalPlayer it is 11.16.53 # To answer my own question, yes it is. 11.17.54 # is that a more powerful piece of hardware than what the H100 or H300 has/have? 11.17.58 # The reason I mention it is that Rockbox now includes the start of PP5020 support (as part of my iPod port). So a H10 port now becomes easier. But I'm not aware of anyone with an interest and the skills to do it though. 11.18.35 # It is probably slightly more powerful - it contains two 75MHz ARM processors instead of a single 120MHz (approx) Coldfire processor. 11.19.10 # But I would say they are probably both capable of doing the same things - one isn't significantly better than the other. 11.19.54 # so is FLAC playback supported on the H100 series? 11.20.12 # Yes, FLAC is now probably the more efficient codec on the H100 series now. 11.20.29 # efficient? 11.20.29 # (in terms of CPU usage) 11.20.32 # wow 11.20.47 # not Musepack? 11.20.55 # We found a very efficient decoder, and have optimised it to death. 11.21.11 # This replaces the old "libFLAC" decoder, which was very slow. 11.21.14 # that's fairly impressive 11.22.23 # I've done some playback tests, and can get around 12 to 14 hours of FLAC playback from a full charge. 11.22.43 # neat 11.25.57 # too bad helping out with stuff like this requires a lot more than the device and a compiler 11.26.42 # depends where you want to help 11.27.11 # true 11.27.32 # i dont' believe all that many people (if even more than one or two) have BDM's for the iriver hardware 11.27.54 # and some of us don't even know what a BDM is 11.28.00 # (hint: it's me) 11.28.46 # it's a hardware debugging module, used on (at least) motorola embedded cpus 11.28.58 # ah okay 11.30.08 # it's only really necessary if you're playing around with the firmware bootloader. since the firmware that rockbox provide has built in support to enable usb disk mode, playing around with the source to the firmware proper isn't particularly dangerous 11.32.23 # The ipod work doesn't need a BDM or equivalent. Even the bootloader is just stored on the disk, and it's easy to recover from a bootloader crash. 11.32.43 # It all depends on how the original firmware on the device allows you to run your own code. 11.32.44 # however the H300 bootloader isn't complete yet? 11.32.54 # No - the H300 bootloader needs a BDM to debug. 11.33.10 # And only one very busy person has both the hardware and the skills to do it. 11.33.26 # Linus 11.33.32 # H300's work should like to be gone fast. 11.33.32 # Yep. 11.34.26 # But once the bootloader is written (which will imply that the main drivers - LCD, button, disk etc - are also written), Rockbox will very quickly get to the same state as the H100 port. 11.34.55 # the H10 has no HDD? 11.35.23 # oh nevermind, just confusing wording on the official site 11.36.15 # I agree - the official site is vague. 11.36.26 # Anyway, got to go now. bbl. 11.36.36 # byebye 11.36.42 # http://news.naver.com/news/read.php?mode=LOD&office_id=022&article_id=0000082946 11.37.00 # I conduct this information and knew rockbox. 11.37.31 Quit linuxstb ("Leaving") 11.38.15 # Jungti1234: I think I can read the 2nd word in the headline (iriver) :) 11.38.25 # a-i-ri-ve 11.38.47 # hahaha 11.38.57 # ¾ÆÀ̸®¹ö = iriver 11.39.04 # My korean is improving :) 11.39.05 # do the iRiver decices come with AC adapters? 11.39.13 # korpse: yes 11.39.26 # are they universal adapters? 11.39.27 # great. 11.39.50 # my Korean is still at stage 0 :( 11.40.16 # :) 11.40.39 # voltage out the wall is 240v here, which is a real pain when trying to buy devices 11.41.08 # korpse: I can't check now, but I think it was 110-240 V 11.41.21 # wow, that would be a nice surprise 11.41.33 # Hmm, currently boot up from disk: 9s and boot from flash: 7s. But that delay can be still lowered for example putting config structure to eeprom/flash 11.42.01 # And the rockbox suffers some problem with the read().. It can't read almost anything 11.42.21 # Slasher: Is it faster to read data from ram than from rom, or doesn't it matter? 11.42.37 # what hardware is that that you're referring to, Slasher? 11.42.48 # markun: i cannot test it yet before that read bug is fixed 11.43.03 # but currently i run rockbox directly from rom 11.43.07 # korpse: iriver 11.44.54 # which one? 11.44.56 # H100? 11.45.22 # yes 11.45.25 # H140 11.46.36 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 11.47.33 # ah 11.47.39 # I've got to run now, but I've just had a thought regarding the current Rockbox problems. It's possible that my changes to ata.c have broken the disk reading on the iriver. I'll try and look at it later, but if someone else wants to review them... 11.47.45 # does anybody have an opinion on the H10 series? 11.47.52 # bbl. 11.47.55 Quit linuxstb (Client Quit) 11.51.19 Join ep0ch [0] (n=ep0ch@84.12.181.167) 11.52.04 # ep0ch: Did the FreeBSD patch work? 11.52.21 # oh you know i've looked at the patch 11.52.46 # but i haven't even managed to get as far as compiling the cross compiler successfully! 11.53.03 # Ah, that was also a bit problematic for me :) 11.53.07 # i should probably donate some more time to it tomorrow 11.53.16 # markun: any tips on version numbers? 11.54.08 # korpse 11.54.31 Join lamed [0] (n=d4b3395e@labb.contactor.se) 11.55.30 # I used cvs binutils and gcc-3.4.4 (just as the site sais). I had some help from Linus, did you try his patch on http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler ? 11.56.16 # hey all. who's cvs name is Miika? 11.56.36 # I had to remove a lot of stuff from the makefile so only the coldfire cpu (and no other m68k's) was supported 11.56.42 # lamed: Slasher 11.57.03 # markun: ahh ok 11.57.52 # markun: thanks, i'll get it working tomorrow :) 11.58.01 # Jungti1234: yes? 11.58.13 # Do you want to buy H100, H300 and H10? 11.58.29 # Jungti1234: well, depends who is paying :P 11.58.51 # haha.. 11.58.54 # Jungti1234: i just want one, but the H100 has been discontinued, so i'm looking at the H300 and H10 11.59.31 # korpse: You might still find a H120 (or H140) for a nice price on ebay. 11.59.37 # H10 speaks that there are many bugs. 12.00.40 # H300 is very massive. :) 12.03.12 # slasher: here? 12.03.23 # ep0ch: thanks 12.04.56 # lamed: hi 12.08.09 # markun: you think so? 12.10.03 # korpse: http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?sofocus=so&sbrftog=1&fstype=1&from=R10&satitle=iriver+%28ihp-120%2Ch120%29&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&bs=Search&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D3&sadis=200&fpos=Postcode&ga10244=10425&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&price=1&saprclo=60&saprchi= 12.10.20 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m79.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 12.11.07 # Morning Moos 12.11.19 # Hello :) 12.14.30 # slasher: thanks for the crossfade improves... I'm having a party on thursday and it will probebally help :) just that now my battery draind and the charger is 120 km away... just wondering if it still restarts playback for every setting change. 12.15.53 # lamed: it will restart the playback when changing fade out delays or durations 12.16.13 # But beaware that it's still little buggy, i will try to improve it on next weekend if i have time 12.17.16 # slasher: are you on improving it to not restarting playback or it looks like a major deal? 12.17.41 # Slasher: congrates and good luck for your rom works 12.18.22 # wow, that is an insane URL 12.18.24 # thanks markun 12.18.40 # lamed: Hmm.. That might require an another option. Anyway, without restarting the playback, we would lose much buffer space 12.18.59 # Moos: hehe, thanks 12.19.40 # lamed: anyway, restarting playback is necessary if we change the pcm buffer size.. But maybe we can do that after user has stopped the playback 12.19.55 # But increasing the buffer requires the playback always to be stopped 12.32.34 # I think i found the bug 12.32.40 # (in ata.c) 12.32.59 # Jungti1234: what sort of bugs have been reported about the H10? 12.35.37 # It is bug of firmware. 12.35.50 # bug no.1 no rockbox. 12.35.56 # yet :P 12.36.00 # :) 12.36.26 # hehe. 12.36.30 # well, how bad is it? -how much buffer is drawn when using 20 sec fade (old settings, donno how it looks now) 12.36.44 # (=slasher) 12.36.52 # 20 seconds??! 12.37.08 # that's a big fade 12.37.37 # hehe... yes, but it was possible 12.37.59 # 20 * 44100 * 2 * 2 bytes or something 12.38.12 # And delay time is long. 12.38.31 # why *2 *2? first one is for stereo? 12.38.43 # second is for 2 bytes per sample 12.40.47 # Is Hangul input possible in unicode rockbox? 12.40.56 # hehe, 20s = ~3.5 MB 12.42.06 # Now the playback problem is fixed in cvs 12.42.11 # hmm.. 3528000 .bytes. that's 3.5 mb. so theoretically we could set a setting, that if you wouldn't cross, it will prolong/short the crossfade without have to restart. 12.42.25 # surely there must be a way of doing cross fading without having large buffers? 12.42.41 # only if h.d spins through 12.42.41 # or would that mean running two decoders in parallel? 12.42.48 # Slasher: was that the codec bug? 12.42.48 # ep0ch: yes 12.43.13 # the buffer is a must since we decode only one "stream" at a time 12.43.13 # we already can run two decoders in parallel 12.43.39 # yes it would indeed be possible 12.43.39 # but doing it the way we currently do it allows for slow codecs to be able to crossfade as well 12.43.45 # Hehe, now it takes 5s to boot iriver (with dircache enabled but without voice files) 12.43.48 # :) 12.44.00 # Slasher: wrap this up so i can use it, please :V 12.44.02 # preglow: ROCKBOX_IS_BIGENDIAN instead of ROCKBOX_BIG_ENDIAN 12.44.12 # preglow: that requires flashing.. :) 12.44.14 # Slasher: compared to what time when not flashed? 12.44.15 # 3 seconds to get the harddisk spinning 12.44.35 # B4gder: just a moment, i will need to recompile to check that too :) 12.44.40 # :-) 12.44.51 # Slasher: do you currently spin the disk up before you start other devices init? 12.45.01 # Slasher: the dac driver for one requires almost a second in just waiting 12.45.05 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@host213-123-154-169.in-addr.btopenworld.com) 12.45.38 # aaaah 12.45.45 # finally the link on the top line works 12.46.01 # (while building) 12.46.17 # preglow: it seems that the disk spins up automatically 12.46.23 # hmmm would it be possible to have some codecs living in flash and some on the hardisk? (thinking ahead) 12.46.37 # B4gder: 30 minutes for compile XD 12.46.37 # at least it starts to spin at the same time i see the rockbox logo (almost immediately after i press power on) 12.46.53 # Moos: yes, all the new codecs do add on to the build time 12.46.55 # slasher: a.nice. b. i personally would love to be able to change crossfade settings without having to restart. even if that means always loosing the maximum buffer area and thus spinning the disk more. one will only use this setting if like me, djing a party. my 2.00 edvice (that i will love to not sit and try to program myself) 12.47.00 # Slasher: I see from the logs you found my bug. Thanks and sorry about that. 12.47.26 # linuxstb: np, it should be fixed now :) 12.48.19 # linuxstb: Hmm, i will keep that in mind :) I think we could implement that 12.48.32 # lamed.. 12.49.34 # slasher: thanks! 12.49.39 # :) 12.50.32 # should be more than enough space for codecs in the flash, i think 12.50.35 # if we strip them of bss 12.50.53 # Slasher: do i see a flash plugin for rockbox coming? 12.51.14 # Bagder: 7s from disk 12.51.26 # well.. i'm just thinking, it would be nice to have codecs on the harddisk override those in flash. so codecs can be easily upgraded without reflashing 12.51.31 # that's only a 2 second diff 12.51.43 # 28% 12.52.05 # same with plugins 12.52.07 # preglow: in time, yes. But it requires still much to do to be safe and useful for ordinary users too 12.54.02 # preglow: currently i have patched firmware flash so that i could write entire flash contents from a file using it. It also prevents overwriting the bootloader and writes always the 8 critical bytes at the beginning 12.54.15 # *firmware_flash plugin 12.55.13 # preglow: and i boot rockbox from flash using unpatched bootloader with the dual boot function 12.55.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.56.24 # minor nitpick: i think ROCKBOX_BIG_ENDIAN should be renamed to TARGET_IS_BIG_ENDIAN or something. rockbox itself is endian agnostic. 12.56.25 # Bagder: i think the difference will be more significant when we have the config structure in eeprom 12.56.46 # Slasher: true 12.57.09 # Zagor: thing is we do all those generated defines with a ROCKBOX_ prefix 12.57.29 # ROCKBOX_TARGET_BIG_ENDIAN perhaps 12.58.47 # hmm. ROCKBOX_HAS_LOGF and ROCKBOX_HAS_SIMSOUND are potentially confusing too. what if we just change ROCKBOX to TARGET? 12.59.12 # why is ROCKBOX_HAS_LOGF confusing? 12.59.16 # it means exactly that 12.59.44 # without it, that rockbox has no logf 13.00.38 # what condition is used to determine how it is set? 13.01.04 # a configure option 13.01.20 # you specify you want logf support 13.01.59 # yellow alert! 13.04.45 # B4gder: it's all a matter of definition, of course. I'd say what you define with the configure script is what your target looks like. not what rockbox looks like. 13.05.05 # in the case of logf, it's hairsplitting i agree 13.05.14 # yes, its a matter of definition 13.05.33 # I kind of see it as "this build of rockbox for this target" 13.05.55 # so how about a BUILD_ prefix? 13.06.49 # I'd prefer having Rockbox someone in there since it makes it obvious the define is made by us 13.06.58 # somehow 13.07.43 # i agree 13.07.47 # let's keep it as it is. if someone else is confused we can discuss it again. :-) 13.07.53 # i don't think there's anything wrong with ROCKBOX_HAS_LOGF at all 13.07.58 # Slasher: your fix introduces some weirdness 13.08.40 # preglow: i never said wrong, just confusing. 13.09.10 # Sorry about the yellow - it's an #warning I put in the code for testing and forgot to remove. I'll fix now. 13.09.15 # ok 13.09.18 # (unless anyone else has already done it) 13.10.40 # Fixed. 13.12.21 # right, ipod is the first little endian target 13.12.29 # it is little, isn't it? 13.13.04 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@p54BD48E1.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.13.08 # is it? 13.13.13 # yes 13.13.17 # ARM is usually run little 13.13.19 # Yes, it's little. The sims are normally built little-endian though. 13.13.20 # arms can be switchable, but are little by native 13.13.55 # ah, right. /me has flashbacks of bug is the big-endian bus handling... 13.14.00 # I still don't understand what is so nice about little endian.. 13.14.13 # all modern CPUs can switch 13.14.39 # B4gder: all modern arm cpus, i take it? 13.14.48 # and ppc and ... 13.14.50 # B4gder: oh? 13.15.59 # Any more news about Neuros? I assume that they definitely going the TI DSP route? 13.15.59 Join DrMoos [0] (i=DrMoos@m79.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 13.16.06 # linuxstb: they are 13.16.15 # they're now selling dev boards 13.16.24 # Is Rockbox getting any? 13.16.44 # we can, if anyone is interested 13.17.02 # I'm not. Like most people, I'm busy enough. 13.17.04 Quit Moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.17.04 # the boring part is that they are all talking 442 now 13.17.06 # not N3 13.17.12 # and the 442 _will_ run linux 13.17.49 # ...and we'll not get full docs 13.17.50 # so I'm lurking in the backseat for now 13.17.56 # right, no docs 13.17.58 # again 13.18.02 # So N3 is the audio player, and 442 is the video player? And they are both using the same processor? 13.18.06 # yes 13.18.52 # and they are gonna make a 3rd product too based on the same arch 13.18.56 # So the 442 will definitely ship with Linux? What about the N3? 13.19.12 # the N3 is said to "might run Rockbox" or something like that 13.19.30 # well 13.19.32 # is isn't really settled yet, but that is probably because N3 is still being planned 13.19.32 # linuxstb: unless we make a lot of noise and effort from our end, I'd say it will run linux too. 13.19.48 # Zagor: I'm sure you're right. 13.19.53 # yes 13.19.58 # I think so too 13.20.03 Nick DrMoos is now known as Moos (i=DrMoos@m79.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 13.20.14 # exactly where will we be lacking docs? 13.20.16 # strictly the dsp part? 13.20.22 # on the whole ARM thing 13.20.35 # bah 13.20.35 # fuck it 13.20.38 # sure, the instructions are plain arm 13.20.42 # arm926 13.20.44 # Is it a system-on-a-chip type of thing? 13.20.47 # yes 13.21.03 # DM320 TI thing 13.21.08 # the first platform that's designed to run rockbox will have fewer docs than h120, where we were never intended to run 13.21.14 # that's ironic 13.21.15 # yes 13.21.16 # Neuros hopes to be able to relay docs/info, but I'm not sure how much they will be allowed to do that. NDAs and all. 13.21.26 # preglow: I wrote exactly that to them 13.21.59 # but apparently the DM320 is very competitivly priced 13.22.13 # so they don't think they have any real options 13.22.17 # And there's no open source compiler for the DSP? 13.22.22 # no 13.22.27 # and no docs for it either 13.22.39 # on the other hand, there's no open source compiler for any dsp. 13.22.41 # and we can't shut it off 13.22.53 # since the sound will be going through the DSP uncontionally 13.22.55 # We could just treat it like the MAS though. 13.23.00 # yes 13.23.08 # And trust Neuros to implement their part well. 13.23.22 # that is the plan 13.23.27 # hahah 13.23.39 # i can't say i want to go back to that scenario at all 13.23.46 # just like the MAS implemented their part without bugs! ;-P 13.23.54 # at least there would be nothing for me to do on that platform 13.24.18 # well it's slightly better than the MAS, since we have communication with the devs. but still not very fun. 13.24.23 # indeed 13.24.29 # and we can pretty much kiss most codecs goodbye 13.24.30 # But this is different - Rockbox and Neuros both have the same goals. 13.24.32 # preglow: actually the codecs are planned to be sw-based 13.24.38 # Zagor: yes, sure, it _is_ a dsp 13.24.45 # Zagor: but they'll have to be custom written 13.24.50 # yes, I wasn't really fair 13.24.53 # the dsp will only deal with channeling the audio from cpu to dac 13.25.00 # oh? 13.25.03 # But it _could_ do a lot more? 13.25.03 # preglow: no, arm cpu codecs 13.25.07 # right 13.25.09 # then i'm ok 13.25.17 # the dsp will mainly do video codecs 13.25.20 # linuxstb: yes. they plan to do video on it 13.25.43 # as a comparison btw, the iriver pmp is a dm270 thing 13.25.52 # the little brother of dm320 13.26.11 # I'm sure the Arm could be clocked very low for audio playback - the ipodlinux people have got libFLAC running on a single CPU at 66MHz for example. 13.27.39 # hahah 13.27.59 # they should swap their codec for libffmpeg's too 13.29.16 Quit lamed ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 13.30.48 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.30.48 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@p54BD48E1.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.33.43 # preglow: Have you noticed any ARM assembler in any of the codecs? I seem to recall libmad having some. 13.35.10 # sure 13.35.13 # libmad's got some 13.35.15 # vorbis has got some 13.35.57 # speex has got some as well, but that's far from finished yet 13.37.42 Quit ashridah ("hitting the sack") 13.57.02 # arm-elf-gcc (GCC) 3.4.4 13.57.07 # *prepared* 13.57.09 # ;-) 14.00.22 # Who is Frank Dischner? 14.00.54 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@labb.contactor.se) 14.03.57 # w00t 14.05.18 # Jungti1234: phaedrus961 i think 14.05.40 # thanks 14.09.30 # B4gder: Nice. I'll try and get the code in a state where the automatic builds can start. 14.10.23 # if Vorbis can play on an iPod i might consider getting one myself :) 14.10.28 # I guess we will also need to find some photos of a Nano and a 4G Color. 14.10.54 # linuxstb: yes, that would be nice 14.11.04 # linuxstb: hear dnaything from the guy with the nano? 14.11.05 # ep0ch: join in and help linuxstb 14.11.22 # preglow: No, not yet. He doesn't appear to ever be in the same place as his Nano. 14.11.53 # we could probably sponsor one for you 14.12.13 # if you think it would help 14.12.16 # ! 14.12.28 # preglow was keen on working on the Nano port... 14.12.57 # preglow: interested? 14.13.10 # B4gder: indeed 14.13.39 # I would love to help, but i'm not a low level coder. 14.14.30 # preglow: how much is a nano where you live? 14.14.35 # which ipod has the best cpu? i believe there are some differences in the models. 14.15.14 # ep0ch: I think all the 4G models are the same. The older ones have a PP5002 which I think is slower due to a badly designed (or broken) cache. 14.15.23 # Zagor: around 2k nok it seems 14.15.49 # i haven't really looked much around yet 14.15.51 # The new video ipod also has a second pair of processors dedicated to video decoding. 14.15.56 # Is iAudio X5 working? 14.16.04 # Jungti1234: no, the coder vanished 14.16.21 # with a bdm! 14.16.37 # ep0ch: we've already done so for the x5 coder 14.16.41 # ep0ch: but he's vanished 14.16.57 # Is iAudio M3 working? 14.17.00 # yeah that's what i meant :) 14.17.33 # No, nothing works apart from the old Archos devices and the iriver H1x0s 14.17.39 # he should send it to Slasher before he makes a terrible mistake 14.18.25 # I'm in contact with him about that 14.18.39 # Is not H300 working? 14.18.43 # we're settling the bdm issue with him 14.18.50 Nick banan_ is now known as merbanan (i=banan@dalink.campus.luth.se) 14.18.50 # Jungti1234: no 14.20.08 Quit Zagor (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.08 NSplit kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 14.20.08 Quit LinusN (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.08 Quit crash_ (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.08 Quit HCl (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.08 Quit pill (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.08 Quit Rick (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.08 Quit XShocK (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.08 Quit wacky_ (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.08 Quit Nibbler (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.08 Quit elinenbe (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.08 Quit thegeek (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.08 Quit Seed (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.08 Quit Igg-man (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.08 Quit TiMiD (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.08 Quit Bagder (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.08 Quit crwl (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.08 Quit ]Maggie[ (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.08 Quit Mxm`Pas`Bien (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.08 Quit merbanan (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.08 Quit solexx (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.08 Quit pabs (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.08 Quit goa (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.08 Quit amiconn (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.08 Quit Jungti1234 (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.08 Quit Nilisco (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.08 Quit gromit` (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.08 Quit novimon (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.08 Quit ze (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.08 Quit phaedrus961 (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.08 Quit dwihno (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.08 Quit bluebrother^ (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.08 Quit Strath (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.08 Quit XavierGr (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.09 Quit godzirra (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.09 Quit ghode|afk (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.20.29 # oooo 14.20.34 # ouch 14.20.38 # linuxstb: any difference between the 2gig and 4gig nanos you know about? 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( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )' 14.21.02 # wb 14.22.58 # woops, need to vanish for a while, bbl 14.23.41 # preglow: No, I don't think there's any differences. 14.23.56 # -_- 14.24.00 # wow.. 14.29.07 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-123-92.VIC.netspace.net.au) 14.37.39 Quit markun (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14.44.30 Join DJDD [0] (n=DJDD@220-245-186-182.static.tpgi.com.au) 14.46.01 Join lamed [0] (n=d4b3395e@labb.contactor.se) 14.46.49 # hey! a bunch of silly questions: what would you have done without them? a. how do i retrive today 14.46.58 # 's irc log? 14.47.12 # b. anyone using koss's sparkplug? 14.47.30 # a) what's wrong with browsing it on the web? 14.47.45 # should be a realtime updating copy on www.rockbox.org/irc 14.47.51 # badger - doesnt show todays log 14.48.19 # http://www.rockbox.org/irc/current.txt 14.48.42 # c. how do you SET AWAY? b4gfer - thanks 14.48.49 # /away 14.51.05 # * lamed | /away ** You are no longer set as away | 14.51.13 # /away reason 14.51.33 # and without reason when you switch it off 14.51.46 # unless your client can do the magic for you 14.51.54 # goodie 14.53.17 # what about b? anyone using them? i've just picked them up yesteday (before my battery died) and i thought they don't have enough treble in them. anyone? 14.53.43 # sound and listening is just soooo personal 14.54.08 # equipement praised by one person is flamed by the next 14.54.52 # yeah, still, i could have got the mdr at 30$ more.. i'm just trying to figure out if i'm alone on that. anyways it has serious bass. 14.55.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.55.50 # lamed: i don't like the koss plugs either. i much prefer the sonys. 14.56.06 # * ashridah shudders 14.56.09 # ugh, sony 14.56.14 # :) 14.56.19 # :-) 14.56.41 # I sooooo wanted the etymotics to be good :-( 14.57.32 # zagor: have you tried the new ones? the 'spark plugs' are supposed to be better then 'koss the plug'. do you agree they are lacking of treble? 14.57.36 DBUG Enqueued KICK ep0ch 14.57.36 # 04i like my etymotics. good treble, little bass. Bass is overrated imho. 14.57.53 # lamed: oh, ok. no I have only tried "the plug". 14.58.56 # have anyone tried jvc's plugs? 15.00.28 # ep0ch: haven't even heard of those. 15.01.21 # 04http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/er6i.aspx 15.02.46 # 150 bucks?! damn... i would have got me a nice stereo in that price :D 15.02.59 # LinusN 15.03.23 *** Alert Mode level 1 15.03.23 # 04brb something back with my font 15.03.32 *** Alert Mode level 2 15.03.32 # 04back?? = wrong 15.03.35 Part ep0ch 15.03.50 # hi all, i've got a question: is the song rating saved in the 1-255 scheme in the id3 tag? 15.04.20 Join ep0ch [0] (n=ep0ch@84.12.181.167) 15.04.36 # they're a lot cheaper on ebay 15.04.42 # yngwi_away: no 15.04.53 Nick yngwi_away is now known as yngwi (n=chatzill@chello080109107064.1.15.vie.surfer.at) 15.05.28 # hmm, 'cause i'd like to have a way of editing the rating on my pc... 15.05.40 # so its just saved rockbox internal 15.05.53 # its saved in the runtime db 15.06.05 # LinusN: Can you know H300's bootloader was gone to where? 15.06.14 # you can write a tool for your PC to modify it 15.06.40 # Jungti1234: we don't ever do predictions on when things are done or complete 15.06.43 # yeah, thats what i was thinking also... I'd really would like to... 15.07.06 # me too 15.07.10 # do you see a way to use the complete DB on the PC in f.e. foobar? 15.07.13 # B4gder: ah.. thank you. 15.07.19 # 'cause i'm noob 15.07.28 # yngwi: sure, if you just write the necessary code for it 15.07.32 # and just thinking of possibilities 15.07.40 # :-) i thought so 15.07.45 # not that I have any idea what foobar does or works 15.08.00 # I guess i'll have a look at that 15.08.37 # personally, I would rather have a better search plugin for the runtime db 15.09.04 # hmm is there a document on the DB in the wiki? 15.09.17 Quit lamed ("CGI:IRC") 15.09.18 # or do i have to look at the makedb tool code 15.10.01 # there is docs in the wiki 15.10.08 # I'm not sure how complete it is 15.10.22 # i know the one on the future plans for the db 15.10.27 # yngwi: the makedb tool doesn't make the runtimedb 15.10.30 Join markun [0] (n=karl@bastards.student.utwente.nl) 15.11.02 # hmm as i said, im noob :-) 15.11.23 # yngwi: there are two dbs, one with all the song info and one with all the runtime data 15.11.36 # the song data one is generated by a tool on the pc 15.11.47 # the runtime is generated by Rockbox itself 15.12.22 # hmm thanks, i'll take a look at the wiki... 15.12.44 # maybe there is something for me to do... 15.12.56 # which lies in my intellectual possibilities 15.13.13 # go go go! ;-) 15.13.19 # :-) 15.13.33 *** Alert Mode OFF 15.13.40 # ok, bye then, have to cook something to fuel the brain.. 15.13.45 # and thanks 15.14.00 Nick yngwi is now known as yngwi_away (n=chatzill@chello080109107064.1.15.vie.surfer.at) 15.35.29 Quit DJDD ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 15.51.20 # bye 15.51.44 # The South Korea is 11:51 P.M. 15.54.04 # good night 15.55.11 # pm is post mortem, right? ;-P 15.55.59 # ok 15.56.16 # 12 A.M. arrived all. 15.56.24 # It is very late night. 15.56.25 # bye 15.56.32 # night 15.56.39 # ^^ 15.56.43 Quit Jungti1234 ("Good Bye~ http://cafe.naver.com/iriverh300") 15.57.16 # I think after 11 pm comes.. 12 pm. After that 1 am. A strange system. 15.57.25 # it is totally weird 15.57.40 # yeah always baffled me 15.57.54 # I can never remember when 12am or pm are 15.58.15 # or just use 24 hr clocks 15.58.31 # B4gder: that's because you are a militant european using "military time" 15.58.36 # hehe 15.58.44 # SIR YES SIR 15.59.28 # 24 hour clocks solve all that confusion anyway 16.00.03 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 16.00.03 # * ashridah notes he still gets confused by clocks. like when they suddenly go from being 22:00 to 03:00 16.00.16 # and you think "holy crap, where did like 5 hours go?! 16.00.23 # and then realise that was 5 hours of quake4 :) 16.00.33 # :) 16.00.34 # ah 16.00.38 # or debugging :) 16.00.48 # have you got to the scarey bit ashridah? 16.01.02 # ... or chatting on #Rockbox while you're supposed to work ;-) 16.01.19 # ep0ch: i've finished it. what scary bit? 16.01.21 # I was wondering what strange time changes there were in Australia that I was unaware of :) 16.01.37 # when you get converted to a baddie 16.01.40 # B4gder: .. or study :( 16.01.42 # their time is up-side-down 16.02.00 # ep0ch: that's not scary 16.02.11 # scary is the money i need to get decent performance :( 16.02.19 # i couldnt look when the needles and stuff were coming at me 16.02.25 # ha 16.02.29 # Jungti1234 asked me when I will do a hangul (korean) input method for rockbox ;) 16.03.28 # i guess that might depend on the temperature in hell ;-) 16.03.28 # Maybe some koreans should start to help out with rockbox if they want all these features 16.05.04 # indeed 16.07.09 # re time weirdness: why is the common analog clock 12 hours, when the day we want to keep track of is 24? 16.07.31 # it's like a speedometer that only goes to 100 km/h, then wraps around 16.07.37 # I say we blame the church for that 16.07.51 # the church? 16.07.59 # I have no idea why, but it feels right ;-) 16.08.04 # haha 16.09.15 # has the iRiver H300 series also been discontinued? 16.09.24 # not yet 16.09.34 # I think 16.09.41 # i htink it has 16.09.49 # i think it has too 16.09.58 # LinusN: Yesterday I was adviced to convert to Foobar200 from Winamp and so I did, well guess what 16.09.58 Part LinusN 16.10.16 # blah 16.10.26 # go on though 16.10.26 # anyway 16.10.35 # so the only iRiver HDD player still being produced is the H10? 16.11.00 # Foobar has the same bug as rockbox regarding those mp3's of mine that show wrong total time. 16.11.20 # (winamp and iriver fw show the time correctly) 16.11.42 # and you vbrfixed them? 16.12.13 # no vbrfix does nothing, (infact iirc it says that they are not vbr files) 16.12.39 # LinusN: Said from a quick look that it was a rockbox bug 16.13.38 # aslo foobar has a hard time on these files, it can't load their tags 16.14.03 # Imagine my suprise to see that Godfather (tag utility) lists all tags and foobar displays nothing... 16.17.12 # given the problems everyone has had with foobar, I'm not the least surprised 16.17.19 Join DrMoos [0] (i=DrMoos@m79.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 16.17.55 # come to think of it I was told that foobar was stable most customizable(it seems that way) and overall the best player 16.18.16 # I wouldn't know 16.18.48 # me linux dude 16.19.04 Quit Moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.19.20 # XavierGr: are any of these files hosted somewhere? i may take a look when i have chance 16.19.56 # hmm where to host them.... 16.20.02 # B4gder: Are there _any_ decent audio players for Linux? i.e. gapless and filetree based? I'm almost tempted to make the Rockbox sim my player. 16.21.18 # linuxstb: cant think of any decent gapless ones, does the sim hog the cpu in linux? under windows it hogs the cpu like crazy. 16.22.30 # beep-media-player (xmms2) is gapless with my ogg files 16.22.36 # ep0ch: thanks for offering to check them, unfortunately right now I am in a hurry, when I get back from work I will try to find a place to upload them... 16.23.11 # XavierGr: no rush, i'm busy till tomorrow now 16.24.38 # okay problem here (unrelated to rockbox): 16.24.39 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m79.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 16.25.27 # in my gmail I account I have received twice an "Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender" mail with mails that I didn't send to anyone. 16.25.51 # I don't know much about the subject but could this be a mail hijack. 16.25.58 Quit DrMoos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.26.08 # XavierGr: Yes, it's spam or a virus or whatever. Just delete them. 16.26.12 # XavierGr: someone is simply sending spam in your name. it's normal, unfortunately. 16.26.17 # That's quite a common trick. 16.26.58 # It's clever because they attach "your" original message as an attachment. So when you double-click on it to see what you sent... 16.27.11 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 16.28.18 # arg! that has started when I mistyped "here" my email address, instead of typing "at" i typed "@" thus making the whole address availble to search bots.... I am an idiot.... 16.29.46 # gone 16.29.48 Part ep0ch 16.32.03 Quit ashridah ("sleep... maybe.") 16.38.03 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A46059.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.38.10 # <_FireFly_> hiho 16.47.17 Quit wacky_ ("ahuh") 16.55.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.57.03 # * B4gder notices gcc switched to subversion 16.57.31 Join dpassen1 [0] (n=dpassen1@resnet-233-61.resnet.UMBC.EDU) 17.04.02 Join DrMoos [0] (i=DrMoos@m79.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 17.04.12 Quit Moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.17.19 # pretty please can't we too! 17.17.38 # are there any good tools to do such a conversion, btw? 17.17.52 # We are all old and grumpy and don't like change. 17.18.04 # preglow: yes, there's a neat cvs2svn thing 17.18.28 # I believe ffmpeg are about to change over to svn as well. 17.19.00 # i don't even know what would be the benefits from such a change 17.19.04 # apart from svn being slightly less hackish 17.19.12 # but svn is all i've used personally, at least 17.19.12 # mv 17.19.14 # I think the main advantage is renaming and moving 17.19.15 # to mention one 17.19.18 # yes 17.19.21 # that i've got 17.19.29 # svn doesn't even implement renaming 17.19.41 # but dinner 17.19.41 # brb 17.19.57 # well, it thinks it does...but actually it just knows how to delete files and add new ones that look identical 17.20.13 # and the "add" part copies the history 17.20.41 # dunno about this project, but our projects are work are quite "branchy" 17.20.43 # so yes, it isn't perfect 17.20.48 # and subversion's merging abilities are pretty dismal 17.20.49 # but far away from cvs mess 17.21.10 # oh yeah, compared to CVS SVN is a bowl of cornflakes 17.34.22 Quit B4gder ("time to say moo") 17.40.11 Nick DrMoos is now known as Moos (i=DrMoos@m79.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 17.49.49 Join muesli_- [0] (n=muesli_t@Bbcb3.b.pppool.de) 17.50.22 # re 18.04.02 Join _user_ [0] (n=c762142c@labb.contactor.se) 18.04.41 # <_user_> _FireFly_: the "independent visible selection for the statusbar" patch doesnt work on the latest cvs build 18.05.59 # * preglow does the ipod nano dance 18.06.32 # <_FireFly_> i know but i'm busy to create wps-widget 18.06.45 # <_FireFly_> so i have currently no time to update it 18.06.52 # <_FireFly_> sorry 18.06.55 # <_user_> i see 18.07.03 # <_user_> is there a simple way for me to fix that? 18.09.40 # <_FireFly_> it depends how good your undstanding and/or skill about the programming language c is 18.10.11 # linuxstb: our plan is to make rockbox on ipod use the file system just like any rockbox,yes? none of the itunes database nonsense? 18.10.16 Join DangerousDan [0] (n=Miranda@newtpulsifer.campus.luth.se) 18.11.50 # preglow: Personally I will be very happy to dump the database and just use the ipod like I use the H140. 18.11.59 # then hooray! 18.12.11 # problem is you can't use both rockbox and the apple firmware 18.12.20 # but can't say i care about that at all 18.12.25 # But there will definitely be a demand for users for support for the database. 18.12.34 # s/for users/from users/ 18.13.44 # But a practical problem (I think) is that you can't store the details on MP2, FLAC, Wavpack, Ogg etc files in the database. Only files supported by Apple's firmware are synced to the ipod and stored in the ipod version of the itunesdb. 18.14.10 # So you will end up with two music collections. 18.16.17 # or one ,if you just ditch the apple part 18.16.19 # which i intend to 18.18.50 # but i'd actually like a hfs driver 18.18.55 # let's hope someone volunteers to do that 18.21.22 # The big question for you: White or Black Nano? 18.22.06 Quit _user_ ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 18.22.20 # <_FireFly_> ;) 18.22.24 # linuxstb: white 18.23.25 Quit muesli_- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.23.41 # caught your photo yesterday, really makes me look forward to taking part in the port :) 18.25.08 # I hope it's soon. 18.25.15 # we shall see 18.25.24 # theoretically, the money should arrive tomorrow 18.25.30 # in which case i'll also order one tomorrow 18.26.28 # if i can find a store around that sells them at decent prices, i might just go buy it in a shop as well 18.26.56 # considering i live in oslo, that should be possible 18.37.42 # <_FireFly_> argh my motivation is currently very tiny 18.39.29 # for doing what? 18.39.58 # <_FireFly_> to do the wps-widget 18.41.57 # then don't do it! 18.41.58 # hehe 18.42.02 # no one is forcing you 18.42.15 Join Coldtoast [0] (n=edan@ppp110-249.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net) 18.42.40 # <_FireFly_> the problem is i want it to do :) 18.43.02 # hey all 18.43.09 # so how does the new crossfading work? 18.43.33 # if I wanted to get the same sounding 2 sec mix crossfade as before but with the new implementation? 18.44.12 # i guess you choose 1 sec for both the crossfade times 18.44.45 # I thought I'd just have to leave the Fade Out Delay and Fade Out Duration at 0, leave Fade In Delay at 0s and Crossfade Duration at 2secs for a 2 sec mix crossfade? 18.45.08 # errr. Fade In Duration I mean 18.45.38 # when I do, the previous track doesn't fade to silence 18.46.34 # like i said 18.46.40 # i would expect both delayls to be 0 18.46.46 # and both of the times to be 1 18.47.34 # ok. but why? it seems more logical that you'd leave Fade In Duration at 0 also cos in Mix mode, the next track doesn't fade 18.48.27 # <_FireFly_> preglow the main struct are ready i have only adept the functions to the new structs :=) 18.49.14 # Coldtoast: i have no idea, then 18.49.17 # Coldtoast: i haven't even tried it 18.49.21 # ok 18.49.43 # also, it seems, cos you have these individual settings, there's no need to even have a Mode setting 18.50.07 # that might be true 18.50.29 # i thought with mix that no fading happened at all 18.50.37 # cos you'd, logically, set Fade Out Duration and Fade In durations to get Crossfade mode and leave Fade In Duration at 0s and set Fade Out Duration to get Mix 18.51.35 # I just did what you suggested; setting Fade In Duration and Fade Out Duration and the previous track still doesn't fade to silence 18.51.40 # it fades to quiet then cuts off 18.52.25 # anyone know what complexity hfs has as opposed to fat32? 18.52.53 # ah. I sett Mode to Crossfade instead of Mix and it worksas I'd have expected 18.54.17 # Hmm, just trying to get eeprom working but so far i haven't got any response from the chip to i2c commands :P 18.54.48 # hey Slasher. how's the military? 18.54.54 Join arkascha [0] (n=arkascha@xdsl-195-14-206-120.netcologne.de) 18.55.16 # ooh! btw. the new Bejewelled plugin is awesome :) 18.55.27 # just a shame about the bloody joystick on the h1x0 18.55.34 # Coldtoast: the service is going on, not so bad now. At least i have little time for other projects as well :) Still 288 days left 18.55.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.55.56 # heh 18.57.00 # * amiconn reads up today's log 18.57.13 # amiconn: flasheri has struck again! 18.57.40 # :D 18.58.25 # no wonder why people think finns are drunk all the time when they go around flashing their units without a bdm handy 18.58.39 # preglow: it was weird because rockbox booted from the flash at first try after i thought i have set the linker file correctly :) 18.58.44 # someone send him a viking helmet 18.58.59 # haha 18.59.09 # went into one of the camera stores here a week or two ago and they ACTUALLY have h140s in 18.59.11 # Slasher: you thought? didn't you set it correctly? ;) 18.59.16 # :D 18.59.21 # for $120 more than I paid for mine last November 19.00.44 # I found a way to get far better bass using Rockbox with my earphones too 19.01.00 Join webguest36 [0] (n=480ec00d@labb.contactor.se) 19.01.19 # on each earpiece, there's a rubber seal around the outside. Removed it and the earphones go slightly further into my earholes. hehe 19.01.28 # Slasher: btw, did you notice any performance differences? 19.01.38 # now there's SO much bass I keep giving myself a headache at the gym from listening to Opeth too loud 19.02.01 # only volume i listen to opeth at is 'too loud', usually 19.02.11 Quit webguest36 (Client Quit) 19.02.16 # preglow: without a test i cannot notice any difference. I will try to do that measurement soon (basically the flash read performance test) 19.02.20 # yep. it's the law 19.03.52 # I reckon you should get rid of the Fade Out Mode setting completely 19.03.52 # preglow: at least it's very certain that we can run rockbox directly from rom 19.03.56 # Slasher: sounds really, really good 19.04.00 # :) 19.04.09 # i've been looking forward to rockbox from flash 19.04.19 # I like the way you've implemented rockbox myself 19.04.32 # cos it means you can update very very easily and quickly 19.05.42 # Coldtoast: sure, in a non-development situation i'd like to flash it myself 19.05.51 # as soon as we get builds that are stable enough ;) 19.06.03 # but i like the disk based mode 19.06.07 # and that's always going to be there 19.06.12 # ah cool 19.06.34 # is there any way AT ALL you can completely replace the iriver code? :) 19.06.37 # yep, the flashing would always remain optional 19.06.50 # Coldtoast: i have already replaced it :P 19.06.52 # everything 19.06.55 # heh 19.06.57 Join mattzz [0] (n=mattzz@d090137.adsl.hansenet.de) 19.07.21 # I no longer "need" to use the iriver fw to get extra bass with SRS 19.07.29 # long time no see - hi everyone 19.07.37 # since I pulled those little rubber seals off of my earphones 19.08.27 # I tried the iriver fw today and nearly blew my eardrums out with the same settings I was using with my unmodded earphones 19.09.25 # bbl 19.09.28 Quit linuxstb ("Client Exiting") 19.10.37 # do you think 2.6 will also be a h1x0 release? 19.10.52 # i hope so 19.11.16 # it'll be inredibly cool when there's h3x0 support. To see the reaction my friend has when he starts using Rockbox 19.11.17 # but of course, we'll call it 3.0! 19.12.04 # Slasher: I expected that rockbox would run with no probs from rom, as we already have it (optionally) running from rom on archos 19.12.09 # especially when the mp4 support is working 19.12.35 # There were some bugs to catch when rombox was implemented 19.12.50 # (like the open() function not working correctly) 19.13.02 # I should know.... 19.14.40 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@84.254.8.203) 19.40.34 Join chiller [0] (i=staale@kristoffersen.ws) 19.40.43 # Hi, awesome project :) 19.42.00 Nick yngwi_away is now known as yngwi (n=chatzill@chello080109107064.1.15.vie.surfer.at) 19.42.49 # hi, does anyone know a program where i can strip ALL additional info from an mp3 (id3, mp3gain,...)? 19.47.24 Quit mattzz ("Leaving") 19.47.56 Join muesli_- [0] (i=muesli_t@Bc0a9.b.pppool.de) 19.52.56 # Anyone have a recent build for iRiver that is known to work? :) 19.54.58 # doesn't the daily build work? 19.55.03 # for me it does 19.55.40 # No, I get "codec error" 19.55.54 # But I think I found the solution on the forum 19.56.01 # make sure you've replaced all the folders 19.56.28 # ghode|afk: was my first install, so no previous rockbox content there 19.56.38 # Trying with yesterdays build now 19.56.59 # ok, make sure you copy over the .rockbox folder from the zip as well 19.57.08 # ah, that worked :) 19.57.21 # have fun :p 19.57.25 # Oh yeah :) 19.58.58 # Today's daily won't work, but the bleeding edge should 20.00.49 # uhm, what is supposed to happen when I enter the "rockbox" folder? 20.01.16 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 20.04.03 # it depends on the "default" settings which i cannot remember.... 20.04.15 # i guess you should see nothing on the iriver 20.04.27 # or did you mean on pc? 20.05.03 Join muesli- [0] (i=muesli_t@A8dfc.a.pppool.de) 20.11.57 # the iriver 20.12.20 # ROLO... loading 20.12.24 # ROLO... executing 20.12.40 # then it just starts like normal. 20.18.37 Quit muesli_- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.25.33 # sounds like your clicking on the rockbox.iriver file to me 20.31.25 Quit muesli- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.32.22 # wtf why cvs diff cant work with a script copied source folder 20.32.38 # (it works if I just copy the source directory my self) 20.33.42 # <_FireFly_> CVS-dir forgotten ?? 20.34.04 # ? 20.34.04 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 20.34.10 # didn't got that 20.38.43 # even cvs update will not work with the source folder copied by the script 20.39.06 # but I can't understand the difference between copying it myslef or via the script 20.39.14 # You can't just move a cvs working copy to another dir and expect it to work 20.39.33 # but it works when I do it manually 20.39.40 # The CVS sub-dirs contain configuration data that includes the absolute path 20.39.56 # It appears to work as long as you don't remove the original 20.40.12 # yes I havn't removed the original 20.40.18 # in BOTH cases 20.40.23 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=5343d4aa@labb.contactor.se) 20.40.42 # and when I copy it my self and make a diff 20.40.57 # the diff is for the new copied CVS and not the old one so... 20.41.26 # CVS working directories should be fully relocatable. I do it all the time. 20.41.55 # The CVS directory contains the details of that directory's location in the CVS repository - not any local paths. 20.42.04 # Seems I was wrong... 20.42.37 # XavierGr: When you type "cvs diff", which directory are you in? 20.42.50 # that's my case, while it works when doing by hand it will not accept it via a script copied folder 20.42.56 # linuxstb_: The cvs root 20.43.01 # e.g 20.43.06 # Is there a "CVS" directory in that directory? 20.43.15 # rockbox-devel is the original CVS 20.43.29 # the I copy it to the parent directory as '1' 20.43.37 # and then cd 1 and cvs diff 20.43.48 # yes there is a CVS folder 20.43.54 # So mydir/rockbox-devel is copied to mydir/1 20.44.20 # yes 20.45.04 # Try a diff between those two directories. 20.45.16 # i.e. cd mydir ; diff -r rockbox-devel 1 20.47.06 # hmm only the tools folder is different and that's because in the script I typed to make the tools 20.48.29 # here is the script but I doubt I have done something wrong 20.48.30 # http://pastebin.com/422082 20.48.55 # lines 16,17 contain the copy commands 20.52.01 # would make the cp command "cp -pr" (to preserve date and time information). But I don't think that would stop things working. 20.52.38 # well I just commented the lines that make the tools nad subdirectory '1' 20.52.51 # then I diffed and there was no output between CVSes 20.53.06 # they are identical I can't really understand why is this 20.53.14 # I will try the cp -pr 20.54.13 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-128-188.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.55.01 # linuxstb: You rock that was it. 20.55.18 # the -pr did the trick and now the CVS instance works 20.55.22 # Interesting that that stopped it working. 20.55.38 # Obviously CVS cares about timestamps. 20.55.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.55.55 # indeed, I would have never thought that 20.56.03 # I always use -p when copying files, so I never ran into that problem. 20.56.15 # (in fact I did't even know about that argument) 20.56.46 # I use cygwin so maybe windows copy and linux copy have their differences... 20.57.47 # I would expect cygwin to behave the same as Linux - they are probably running the same cp command. 20.58.20 # cp --version gives "cp (coreutils) 5.2.1" for me. 20.58.46 # cp (fileutils) 4.1 20.58.49 # :x 21.00.47 # it was a very strange behaviour indeed... 21.01.22 # when I typed cvs "something" full upload activity was shown for my network but nothing would happen 21.01.32 # I am wondering what it was uploading... 21.05.45 # Hunk #6 succeeded at 980 with fuzz 1 (offset 4 lines) 21.05.52 # is that to worry about... 21.10.10 Quit dpassen1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.11.45 Part arkascha ("Konversation terminated!") 21.28.01 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.41.50 Join Sandking [0] (n=jacek@ogorek.akron.wroc.pl) 21.48.31 Quit Sandking () 21.56.17 Join azizi [0] (n=azizi@85.98.47.124) 22.00.22 Quit Kohlrabi (Nick collision from services.) 22.00.25 Join Kohlriba [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-133-199.pools.arcor-ip.net) 22.01.25 Quit azizi ("visit www.BadCase.net") 22.09.57 Join ehntoo [0] (n=ehntoo@24-177-146-220.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) 22.12.01 # * amiconn now has an optimised h1x0 remote lcd driver 22.12.38 # Much less lag in the preset list when the remote is plugged 22.16.19 # It's not 100% clean though - it might cause problems when used from an isr and a cpu frequency increase was initiated just before the interrupt 22.27.30 Join Midgey34 [0] (n=Midgey34@c-67-172-68-52.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 22.27.40 # optimised as in asm? 22.27.46 # yes 22.28.03 # asm itself didn't help much though. 22.28.30 # In addition, it uses precaclulated port values instead of read-modify-write logical operations 22.28.43 # Needs to disable interrupts for that 22.29.25 # Does that for each byte transferred (disable ints - precalculate port values - clock out byte - enable ints) 22.29.29 # * linuxstb notes a GPL license debate starting on #ipodlinux... 22.29.44 # The output itself is unrolled 22.30.44 # This optimised routine can only be used for low clock frequencies, because otherwise we'd exceed the lcd specs 22.30.52 Join Midgey31 [0] (n=Midgey34@c-67-172-68-52.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 22.36.05 Quit Midgey31 ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") 22.36.38 Quit Nibbler ("life is like a rental car, you fuck it up, and give it back.") 22.38.42 # linuxstb_: no nano testing of the bootloader yet, i take it? 22.39.34 # No. Complete lack of interest from that side of my monitor. 22.39.50 # tsk tsk 22.40.10 # let's hope the money transfer goes well, so i can try 22.40.40 # I'm sure it will be fine. I expect to see photos tomorrow night... 22.40.46 # hehe 22.43.02 Quit DangerousDan ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 22.45.01 # let's hope so 22.46.39 Quit Midgey34 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.53.46 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@labb.contactor.se) 22.54.07 # amiconn: who would call the remote lcd driver from an isr? 22.54.37 Join hardeep [0] (i=hardeeps@norge.freeshell.ORG) 22.54.58 # Shouldn't happen during normal use, but if someone wants to implement a remote-grayscale-lib ... 22.55.35 # then let him deal with it 22.55.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.55.55 # ("him" is probably amiconn) 22.56.11 # Not very likely... 22.57.00 # It can be made a bit safer, by setting the new cpu_frequency value earlier when switching frequencies 22.58.02 # I'm also not 100% sure about the timing, i.e. up to what frequency it stays within lcd specs 23.04.59 # LinusN: If you could take a look at it... http://amiconn.dyndns.org/remote_lcd.diff 23.06.20 Quit Coldtoast ("Peace and Protection 4.22") 23.11.03 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@p54BD48E1.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.11.22 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 23.11.22 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@p54BD48E1.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.11.26 # hmpf. 23.17.15 # amiconn: i don't have time right now to examine the timing, but i trust you have calculated correctly 23.18.05 # one thing that might be a problem is that the lcd comm lines are quite long, and are subject to interference 23.18.26 # from audio, external electric fields etc 23.18.45 # time will tell, i guess 23.19.14 # still, the asm optimization is only for the lowest frequencies anyway 23.19.27 # Yes. 23.19.35 # I didn't think my ipod bootloader instructions would be so long. And this is the brief version: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodBoot 23.19.53 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp49-adsl-10.ath.forthnet.gr) 23.20.14 # The min. cycle time of the lcd serial comm is 250 ns, with each high time and low time having a minimum of 100 ns 23.21.56 # The minimum high/low times are guaranteed with bus clock <= 10 MHz 23.21.57 # linuxstb: nice 23.22.34 # * LinusN is singlestepping h300 code 23.22.35 # nice plus 23.22.40 # That also guarantees the cycle time, because clock and data are on different gpio ports, so they can't be set at once :( 23.22.49 # ooh 23.23.16 Join RotAtoR [0] (n=e@12-210-82-91.client.insightBB.com) 23.23.25 # so far it looks like the lcd data sheets we have are very close, but no cigar 23.23.37 # preglow: I knew you would be asking for some instructions soon... 23.23.46 # LinusN: painful? 23.23.47 # let's hope so 23.23.58 # Bagder: nah 23.24.21 # i disassembled the original lcd setup and compared to the data sheets 23.24.40 # *very* close 23.24.41 Join matsl [0] (n=user@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 23.24.55 # What drivers need to be written for the H300 bootloader. Is it mainly the LCD? 23.24.59 # ok 23.25.01 # but they set a few bits in some regs that are marked "undefined" in the sheets 23.25.14 # linuxstb: lcd and power control 23.25.17 # linuxstb_: so it's more or less impossible to brick an ipod? 23.26.06 # preglow: I hope so. I've run some quite bad code, and the only reason the reset key combination hasn't worked is because I had accidentally turned the hold switch on... 23.26.37 # So yes, I think it's as safe as it could be. 23.26.56 # The only potential problem is if the code actually damages the hardware in some way. 23.27.44 # that's something that seems very possible on the h300... 23.28.28 Quit yngwi ("Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.7/20050919]") 23.28.35 # LinusN: oh? 23.28.57 # I think all the ipodlinux development has been done the same way I am working - and I don't think they ever bricked an iPod. 23.29.53 # preglow: I'm assuming you have access to a Linux box you can plug an ipod into? 23.29.59 # linuxstb_: sure 23.30.09 # i've got a 64 bit ubuntu install 23.30.49 # which runs dd like a dream, heh 23.31.11 # LinusN: Are you going to be running the LCD in 18-bit mode immediately? Is it even possible to choose other modes? 23.31.50 # there are other modes, but i guess we'll run the 18-bit mode 23.32.38 # Have you decided how the framebuffer will be organised? I'm thinking that others could help with the higher-level LCD code. 23.33.16 # btw, i think it would be easiest if we used the 16-bit mode, since the interface is 16-bit 23.33.43 # In which case, we can unify the ipod and H300 code. 23.33.56 # good idea 23.34.18 # My code is a very long way from being finished. But it's enough for a bootloader. 23.35.03 # I named the file lcd-16bit.c for that very reason. Very little code is actually related to the low-level LCD. 23.38.17 # LinusN: Btw, do you think the new reset method in UIE() is okay? 23.39.29 # looks great 23.40.27 # Yeah, simple and effective. I couldn't figure another way to get completely out of emulator mode. 23.41.04 # I made it call system_reboot() successfully with special rte magic, but the bootloader then failed with an ata error -42 23.41.18 # The watchdog just does the trick 23.41.50 # We could do the same on archos too; iirc system_reboot won't always work 23.42.03 # definitely a good idea 23.49.57 # koitaxe ta dinei 423 euro 23.49.59 # alla kai pali 23.50.03 # poli einai 23.50.17 # XavierGr: ??? 23.50.27 # oops 23.50.31 # soorry wrong window 23.50.44 # my god, sorry again 23.52.00 # amiconn: Is there any relation between the ticking issues on some remotes and your new code? 23.52.07 # I mean will it get better? 23.52.15 # I have no idea, my remote doesn't tick 23.52.30 # Perhaps you could try? 23.52.43 # of course 23.52.52 # If it has any effect, it does so in radio mode only 23.53.13 # (in fact any mode that idles the cpu) 23.53.19 # then it will make a diffrence for sure 23.54.11 # link or a diff? 23.55.44 # I just committed it... 23.55.57 # oh great then