--- Log for 17.11.105 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 12 days and 19 hours ago 00.00.05 # or just reinstall rockbox 00.00.10 # then what is the password for? 00.00.30 # for stopping people use the DAP if it gets lost or something 00.00.36 # or if you dont want people using it 00.01.38 # _FireFly_: I think you'd better build a cross-compiler and build a player build for yourself. 00.02.39 # San, surely they can just use the iRiver firmware too? 00.02.57 # well 00.03.13 # would someone who never user rb know to hold down the record button? 00.03.41 # simple to find out 00.03.48 # not really 00.03.57 # cause they would think it is just default 00.04.04 # See the bootloader display the word 'rockbox', google for it, ... 00.04.11 # yeah 00.04.18 # meh... 00.04.21 # just an idea 00.04.35 # or password protect folders, is that pushing it? 00.04.36 # you're number 212 with that idea 00.04.37 # :P 00.04.40 # we've shot it down every time 00.04.45 # lol, ok 00.04.46 # :D 00.04.49 # :-) 00.05.01 # i'm just excited about the H300 port 00.05.23 # San: If you're going to implement filesystem encryption... ;-) 00.05.31 # lol 00.06.20 # <_FireFly_> can i use gcc 3.4.x also for sh-gcc ?? 00.06.26 # linuxstb: The colour screendump() seems to be buggy - I'll take a look at it 00.06.35 # GTG 00.06.36 # reboot 00.06.41 Quit San () 00.07.06 # _FireFly_: you can, but 3.3.x produces smaller code for sh 00.07.42 Quit PaulJ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.07.55 # <_FireFly_> k 00.07.56 # Since you're unlikely to ever run on target, it doesn't really make that much difference. 00.08.27 # ...but it doesn't make much difference which one you build 00.08.37 # In fact 3.3.x might take less space 00.08.46 # how do I use a patch file? 00.08.58 # <_FireFly_> cd /rockbox 00.09.09 # <_FireFly_> patch -p1 < 00.09.21 Join |joshn| [0] (n=kvirc@ool-182d4545.dyn.optonline.net) 00.09.29 # *nod* 00.09.30 # Mordov_: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WorkingWithPatches 00.09.35 # :) 00.10.04 # thanks guys,, this page is actualy helpfull.. witch one can not say abaout other "info" sites 00.10.53 # amiconn: It worked - but has the shifting problem (i.e. white not staying white). I think it should be re-written to output rgb565 instead of truecolor 00.11.08 # Yes, that's what I'll do 00.11.17 # Or, it used to work: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/screendump.bmp 00.11.20 # Oh well, off to school... :( 00.11.28 # It also does *not* work on the win32 sim, the colours are all off 00.11.36 Quit aliask ("Chatzilla 0.9.67 [Firefox 1.0.6/20050717]") 00.11.47 # Looks like an endian issue, swap16() is certainly wrong there... 00.11.54 # Ah yes. Of course. 00.12.10 # It's fine for the ipod, but not the h300. 00.12.26 # but ipod uses the same endian as win32 00.12.43 # No, the swap16 is needed for H300 and iPod targets. The sims need it depending on endianess 00.12.52 # BMP is little endian 00.13.14 # ipod is little endian 00.13.15 Quit ehntoo_ ("Leaving") 00.13.18 # and so is win32 00.13.28 # but not h300 00.13.29 # Bagder: Yes, but the lcd data is byteswapped on ipod targets 00.13.32 # The ipod's frame-buffer is big-endian. 00.13.36 # ah 00.13.41 # so: 00.13.50 # how amusing ;-) 00.14.01 # swap16()? 00.14.20 # should be h2be16() or something? 00.14.30 # I think it's clearer to use CONFIG_LCD 00.14.40 # CONFIG_LCD *and* endianess 00.15.05 # I'm assuming htole16 will be needed to write the bmp 00.15.07 # we need to swap if either the platform is big endian or it has an ipod lcd, otherwise not 00.15.42 # and btw 00.15.49 # XPutImage() is the key for the x11 sim 00.16.44 # damn! pushed enter too early, and committed a serious amount of rubbish :-( 00.17.20 # ouch 00.17.41 Quit mashalla () 00.18.35 # (the xscreensaver's fireworkx.c is excellent to get a grip on how to adjust the x11 sim for colors) 00.20.52 Part petur 00.21.41 # gdnght 00.21.56 # <_FireFly_> night 00.24.00 # Does anyone know what character encoding I should use in a javascript file - for alert messsages? 00.24.30 Join ehntoo [0] (n=Mitch@24-177-166-0.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) 00.25.51 # linuxstb: I guess the same that is used in the webpage - I only ever used ISO8859-1 00.26.17 Quit Creatine () 00.31.28 # linuxstb: Hmm, the 16bit bmp format is not the same as the 16bit lcd format 00.31.50 # I get roughly correct colours, but with a lot of greenish artefacts 00.31.57 # I guess it's actually 15 bit 00.32.21 # Have you specified the bit masks? 00.32.32 # The doc that I read mentioned rgb555 and rgb565 00.33.01 # And I think you're right about the encoding - my webpage was utf-8 and the javascript had to be utf-8 as well. 00.33.32 # So if you're saying you use iso-8859-1, then the encoding of the html page seems to be used. 00.34.44 # Ah, thanks for the bitmasks tip. Overlooked that so far, but it's exactly what msdn says (regarding to the bitmapinfoheader, but that matches bmp) 00.35.07 # Special case for the preprocessor magic... 00.38.52 Join San [0] (n=Test@212.2.176.85) 00.40.30 # Right - that's my good deed for the day done, I'm off to bed. 00.40.53 # _FireFly_, I'll have another go with your patch tomorrow when you've got it fixed. 00.41.58 Join mongey [0] (n=5347067d@labb.contactor.se) 00.41.59 # sooo....H300 Progress, boot, and file browser, right? 00.42.02 # anything else? 00.42.22 # able to use remote? 00.42.34 # oh, yeah 00.42.35 # yes 00.42.54 # can we download the source of rockbox.org? 00.42.56 Quit ender` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.43.05 # LinusN: can a wps be made 00.43.13 # <_FireFly_> Cassandra: k 00.43.17 # Bah, would someone make my tag on the Rockbox forums say something other than "Newbie", please? 00.43.31 # <_FireFly_> make more posts there ;) 00.43.50 # And then you become "Newbie that talks a lot" 00.43.52 # GTG 00.43.59 Nick San is now known as San||Away (n=Test@212.2.176.85) 00.44.45 # can a wps be made for the h3x0 00.45.49 # * Cassandra pulls faces at Firefly. Every second spent posting is a second I'm not working on Rockbox. 00.46.29 # <_FireFly_> have to go good night 00.47.07 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 00.47.20 # Night all. 00.47.26 # Cassandra: wait 00.47.33 # OK 00.47.37 # Cassandra: what are you working on 00.48.08 # Tonight I've been looking at submitted WPSes and _firefly's_ wps-widget patch. 00.48.25 # Yesterday I did some work on making it possible to revert to the default WPS. 00.48.36 # but are u working on the iriver h120 00.48.38 # At some point I really ought to get around to updating the manual. 00.48.47 # Primarily, yes. 00.48.53 # I tinker with lots of stuff. 00.49.04 # will u work on the h3x0 00.49.10 Join dew_ [0] (n=irc@tor/session/x-095916971d4d2041) 00.49.10 # linuxstb: Works like a charm now, will commit soon :) 00.49.20 # If you buy me an H3xx. :) 00.49.33 # LinusN: congrats on the new progress!! 00.49.34 # * mongey thinks 00.50.05 # well if im 14 and have no money ill safe up for you 00.50.13 # heh. too many people know where LinusN hangs out :) 00.50.14 # lol 00.50.35 # I wuv you!!! :-* LinusN 00.50.36 # hehe 00.50.40 # one more question 00.50.45 # A lot of the H1xx work *is* H3xx work. I tend to concentrate on the interface, which is less platform specific anyway. 00.51.08 # I don't enjoy pain enough to attempt to understand the audio code. 00.51.11 # when will it be possible to make a wps for the h3x0 00.51.26 # amiconn: Nice. Shaves 33% of the size of the files as well. 00.51.32 # mongey: you can make it now if you wish 00.51.35 # Yes, ~76KB now 00.51.40 # ...and less code 00.51.49 # s/of/off/ 00.51.51 Nick ashridah is now known as Lost-ash (i=ashridah@220-253-122-132.VIC.netspace.net.au) 00.51.54 # mongey: you just won't be able to use it 00.52.13 # (Or colours, I suspect.) 00.52.28 # (Since we don't even have greyscale WPS working yet.) 00.53.29 # LinusN: will there be a long wait until colour 00.53.46 # mongey: Rockbox already has colour - black and blue. 00.53.48 # mongey: i have no idea 00.54.08 # lol 00.54.12 # Not to forget the original ROCKbox logo :) 00.54.19 # black and blue..... 00.54.26 # LinusN: u rule 00.55.11 # Anyway, I really must sleep. Well done on the H3xx, Linus. 00.55.26 # is my roms or is there noe sound on the gamboy emulator? 00.55.47 # there is no sound 00.55.52 # ok :) 00.56.03 Quit Cassandra (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The future of IRC") 00.56.08 # urgh 00.56.11 # is someone paning to make the emulator works while palying music? 00.56.25 # how long has it been since the h120 bootloader is done 00.56.25 # I think I'm gona like to have tetris on the bus,,, 00.56.50 # Mordov_: no, the cpu is not fast enough 00.57.06 # would it be for the h3x0 00.57.09 # ah ok :) hard choise :) 00.57.29 # LinusN: It should be is someone gets around implementing the cpu emulator core in asm 00.57.39 # ...or finish dynarec 00.58.00 # lack of IRAM could be a problem though 00.58.02 # * amiconn prods HCl 00.58.06 # if only i could help 00.58.36 # Ah, LinusN' remark was to whether it will run in parallel with playing music 00.59.10 # That's not possible imho 00.59.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.03.49 # but it should be possible to play the emulators music no? 01.03.57 # games music that is. 01.04.46 # cube.rock looks cool in color 01.04.47 # Yes, provided we get the emulator core above realtime speed 01.05.10 # u got it to work? 01.05.34 # didn't have to change it at all 01.05.55 # cool 01.06.03 # LinusN: A remark regarding you erroneous commit - I hope you'll change your ata led define before the final version. 01.06.10 # There already is a led define 01.06.11 # LinusN: man, congrats on the h300 boot, outstanding work! 01.06.36 # The cube works in colour because it was already prepared to 01.07.08 Quit DangerousDan ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 01.07.37 # amiconn: do you have a better name suggestion? 01.07.47 # [01:06:15] There already is a led define <== 01.08.00 # Check player, recorder, ondio... 01.08.15 # LinusN: when was the bootloader done for the h120 01.08.57 # linus@linus:~/rockbox-all$ grep ATA_LED firmware/export/config-*.h 01.08.57 # firmware/export/config-h100.h:#define HAVE_ATA_LED_CTRL 01.08.57 # firmware/export/config-h120.h:#define HAVE_ATA_LED_CTRL 01.09.01 # * mongey feels like jumpin around 01.09.28 # LinusN: 01.09.30 # Ondio: 01.09.31 # /* Virtual LED (icon) */ 01.09.31 # #define CONFIG_LED LED_VIRTUAL 01.09.48 # Recorder etc: 01.09.49 # /* Software controlled LED */ 01.09.49 # #define CONFIG_LED LED_REAL 01.09.54 # and? 01.10.20 # If H300 has a controllable LED, it's the same as Recorder, player... 01.10.31 # h300 has no led at all 01.10.50 # h100 has a port pin that enabled the ata led 01.10.59 # which isn't present in h300 01.11.03 # Ah ok 01.11.19 # Misunderstanding on my side then 01.11.41 # linus how long till u(genral) can patch the iriver firmware 01.11.59 # If so, we could add the virtual LED in the status bar 01.12.43 # the h300 lcd driver is sloooooooooooooow 01.12.52 # Hmm? 01.13.28 # Which part/ function? 01.13.31 # a lot more data to transfer to the lcd 01.14.29 # it's connected to the bus, i take it? 01.14.35 # yes 01.14.41 # LinusN: can u post more pics of the h3x0 like going througt the songd or the cube thing 01.14.48 # haha 01.14.50 # *songs 01.14.55 # let him use his time for coding, at least 01.15.04 # you'll have it soon enough anyway 01.15.04 # kk 01.15.19 # at least, it certainly looks like you will 01.15.45 # do any other coders actually have h3x0s? 01.16.14 # well not now but if you happen to have a camera in your hand and it going throught the stuff 01.16.52 Join Febs [0] (n=4086d22c@labb.contactor.se) 01.17.39 # hello Febs 01.18.01 Join Benji22589 [0] (n=0cd05911@labb.contactor.se) 01.18.17 Quit ghode|afk (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.17 NSplit kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 01.18.18 Quit |joshn| (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit xmixahlx (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit Mordov_ (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit RotAtoR (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit linuxstb (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit LinusN (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit ripnetuk (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit Vlad0man (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit solexx_ (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit wubbla (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit crash_ (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit BirdFish (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit Igg-man (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit Zagor (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit pill (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit yngwi (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit Strath (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit XavierGr (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit novimon (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit amiconn (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit ]Maggie[ (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit thegeek_ (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit crwl (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit pabs (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit Bagder (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit kaouete (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit dew_ (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit Lost-ash (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit elinenbe (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit Nilisco (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit dwihno (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit bluebrother^ (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit CoCoLUS (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit Seed (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit ze (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit chiller (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit ansivirus__ (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit davidc__ (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.18 Quit markun (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.18.28 # im off to bed 01.18.42 # hey, anyone in here still trying to mod the gigabeat? 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( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )' 01.21.16 # * Febs is traveling this week and did not have an internet connection today. 01.21.27 # Looks like I missed a productive day. 01.24.18 Quit markun (Killed by sagan.freenode.net (Nick collision)) 01.24.18 NJoin markun [0] (n=karl@bastards.student.ipv6.utwente.nl) 01.24.35 Join markun_ [0] (n=karl@bastards.student.utwente.nl) 01.25.04 Quit ehntoo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.25.33 Quit markun (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.25.46 Quit Benji22589 ("CGI:IRC") 01.26.55 # unfortunately, the h300 frame buffer doesn't fit in iram 01.28.13 # how big? 01.28.23 # 76k 01.28.26 # god damn 01.28.37 # No, but I've moved some things into iram that should go there because they're used a lot 01.29.12 # lcd_update can be optimized for burst dram reads 01.30.24 # Yes, but that requires either complex handling, or aligning the framebuffer mod 16 01.31.06 # Hmm, the complex handling will be neccessary anyway 01.31.17 # Not too complex though 01.31.23 # Way less than memcpy 01.31.38 # aligning the frame buffer shouldn't be a problem 01.31.52 # oops, total freeze at 124MHz :-) 01.32.24 # Any idea what kind of IC a CL245A by Texas Instruments could be? 01.32.41 # No but the line lengths aren't multiples of 16, so aligning would only help a tiny bit for fullscreen updates 01.33.12 # why do the line lenghts matter? 01.33.36 # the h300 lcd_update is just a 76byte transfer 01.33.50 # kbyte 01.33.53 # Yes, but there's also lcd_update_rect() 01.34.00 # that's another thins 01.34.02 # thing 01.34.26 # mandelbrot crashed :-( 01.34.40 # Yes of course 01.34.52 # mandelbrot shouldn't be built for h300 in the first place 01.35.03 # Currently it requires the grayscale lib 01.35.11 # For lcd_update_rect() the handling of partial leading/trailing lines is necessary anyway 01.35.38 # ...so if we have that, it doesn't matter whether we use it for the full update too 01.35.38 # starfield looks coool 01.35.53 Nick Lost-ash is now known as ashridah (i=ashridah@220-253-122-132.VIC.netspace.net.au) 01.37.27 # IRAM changes committed. 01.45.57 # there is also a high-speed mode for lcd transfer, but it requires that the transfers are multiples of 4 words 01.47.29 # if they had designed the bus interface a little different, we could have been able to write longwords to the lcd 01.47.58 # the bus controller would have translated it to 2 16-bit writes 01.49.30 # Do you know if the audio on the H300 limited to 44.1KHz ? 01.50.07 # yes, that's a limitation of the coldfire cpu itself 01.50.08 Quit xmixahlx ("blah blah blah") 01.51.32 # So the iAudio M3 will have the same limitation? 01.51.37 # yes 01.52.14 # how does the cpu itself limit audio output? the special purpose routines won't output 48KHz? 01.53.24 # ashridah: the IIS can't be clocked at 48kHz 01.53.44 # ah 01.53.45 # due to the internal clock dividers 01.54.12 # preglow: I don't know if the ipod can handle other freqs than 44.1kHz, but if it does the crossfeed delay has to be addapted 01.55.33 # probably 01.55.54 # we'll have to resample in that case anyway 01.56.07 # markun: Yes, it can support a range of frequencies up to 96KHz. 01.56.13 # LinusN: Do my changes have any effect? 01.56.31 # yes, it's a tad faster 01.56.40 Quit yngwi ("Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.7/20050919]") 01.56.48 # LinusN: is the lcd transfer noticably slow? 01.57.13 # I expect it to be, with the framebuffer in DRAM... 01.57.22 # preglow: do you perhaps know what a CL245 is? 01.57.56 # markun_: how many pins? 01.58.00 # markun_: can't say i do 01.58.26 # LinusN: let me check.. 01.58.52 # 16 I think: http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/1092/wm22uq.jpg 02.00.02 # markun_: It's a 74LCX245 or 74LVX245 compatible, methinks 02.00.12 # And next to the USB ATA bridge controller there are 3 identical ICs with P003 526AA, also wonder what that could be 02.00.21 # preglow: I don't know if you noticed, but the Rockbox wiki already has the datasheet for our LCD driver. 02.00.25 # 8bit bidirectional transceiver 02.00.26 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/DataSheets/e789r_101.pdf 02.01.21 # linuxstb_: no, i've been pretty busy with personal stuff today 02.01.26 # nice 02.01.33 # markun_: http://focus.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/sn74cbtlv3245a.pdf 02.01.48 # amiconn: thanks! 02.01.57 # Google, 2nd hit... 02.02.00 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s115b.studby.ntnu.no) 02.02.00 Nick markun_ is now known as markun (n=karl@bastards.student.utwente.nl) 02.02.17 # amiconn: 20 pins... 02.02.21 # Yes 02.02.38 # the chip on the pcb has 16 02.02.44 # No, 20 02.02.56 # 8 on each long side, 2 on each short side 02.03.24 # yes, now I see them 02.03.26 # ah..... 02.03.34 # LinusN: In fact some drawing functions could also make use of burst mode (fillrect, bitmap drawing) 02.04.24 # yes 02.04.43 Quit gromit` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.04.49 # the browser looks nice in 3 colors 02.05.10 # I stehre som way to tyrn of the Hold stopp buton power off function? 02.05.11 Join xmixahlx [0] (n=xmixahlx@64.122.111.98) 02.05.14 # <|joshn|> Linus: so the bootloader is done? 02.05.23 # <|joshn|> where mere mortals can start helping? 02.05.40 # soon 02.10.59 Join ehntoo [0] (n=Mitch@24-177-166-0.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) 02.19.42 Quit thegeek_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.20.06 # time to sleep 02.20.08 # nite all 02.20.35 # good night LinusN 02.20.48 Part LinusN 02.23.05 # amiconn: I think your new screen_dump will fail in one rare case - a big-endian ipod simulator. 02.23.14 # nopwe 02.23.30 # The lcd type defines aren't defined for simulators 02.23.53 # In fact even if they were they wouldn't fail 02.24.11 # big endian simulators need to swap, as does the target 02.24.47 # Little endian simulators would fail if the lcd type macros were defined for the sims 02.25.11 # bedtime, later all 02.25.38 # well good night from me too, later all! 02.28.41 # amiconn: OK. I understand it now. 02.30.12 # Your LCD commit has simplified it a lot. 02.31.36 # yeps 02.31.48 # It even helps TiMiD's multiscreen code 02.31.58 # Only one datatype for the background 02.33.35 # Are the scroll functions only implemented in the greyscale lib? 02.33.49 # So far, yes 02.34.09 # Scrolling isn't needed in the core, so it isn't implemented there 02.34.31 # OK. That wasn't clear from the GraphicsAPI wiki page. 02.35.07 # Hmm, note 3) isn't clear enough? 02.35.20 Quit San||Away (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.35.54 # Not really :) 02.39.02 # I'll probably add scrolling to the plugin lib, but after implementing asm memmove() :-) 02.39.13 Join Kyl3 [0] (i=Kyle@cpe-24-90-232-130.nyc.res.rr.com) 02.40.25 Quit thegeek (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.40.25 NSplit kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 02.40.25 Quit goa (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.40.25 Quit DJDD_ (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.40.25 Quit phaedrus961 (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.40.25 Quit mbr (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.40.25 Quit Ismo (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.40.55 NHeal kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 02.40.55 NJoin thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s115b.studby.ntnu.no) 02.40.55 NJoin goa [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 02.40.55 NJoin DJDD_ [0] (n=DJDD@220-245-186-182.static.tpgi.com.au) 02.40.55 NJoin phaedrus961 [0] (n=bob@adsl-209-233-10-228.dsl.bkfd14.pacbell.net) 02.40.55 NJoin mbr [0] (n=mb@stz-softwaretechnik.de) 02.40.55 NJoin Ismo [0] (i=laitinei@huippu.net) 02.41.22 Quit markun ("leaving") 02.41.30 Join markun_ [0] (n=karl@bastards.student.ipv6.utwente.nl) 02.44.43 # amiconn: So would hardware scrolling in the LCD driver be useful? 02.44.58 # - I'm talking about the ipod drivers. 02.46.19 # Perhaps. The framebuffer would still have to be scrolled in sync, so you merely save the transfer 03.00.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.06.39 Nick markun_ is now known as markun (n=karl@bastards.student.ipv6.utwente.nl) 03.09.57 Join Vladoman [0] (n=Vladoman@p54A7E072.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.17.06 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@84.254.13.2) 03.18.30 Join solexx [0] (n=jrschulz@c169125.adsl.hansenet.de) 03.20.34 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 03.27.03 Quit Vlad0man (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.29.59 Quit solexx_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.33.02 # so like outta 100%, how far along is the bootloader/firmware pather 03.33.09 # patcher* 03.33.49 # for the h300 03.45.52 Quit Febs ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.53.01 Part Kyl3 04.33.33 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@58.77.81.75) 04.35.48 # hi 04.40.18 # How much is boot loader the work progress rate? 04.47.27 # About H300 04.50.29 # Is no one here? 04.52.59 # Jungti1234: it's 4-5am in europe 04.53.16 # that tends to put a damper on the activity of the developers 04.58.24 Quit BirdFish ("reboot") 05.00.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.01.59 # ashridah : I'm information about one gigabeat. 05.02.09 # Who do you speak to? 05.02.28 # -> Who do I speak to? 05.05.07 # i have no idea 05.05.25 # hmm 05.06.21 # Where do you live? 05.06.37 # australia 05.07.35 Quit hardeep ("[BX] Choosey moms choose BitchX!") 05.07.50 # In what city? 05.11.56 Quit Sandoaway (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.28.45 Join ironyengine [0] (n=cmorgan@whale.fakeaccount.com) 05.41.45 # Helloooo 05.43.08 # http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSDRAM/MobileSDRSDRAM/256Mbit/K4S56163PF/K4S56163PF.htm 05.43.34 # It seems to be RAM that is used to gigabeat. 05.48.35 Join Sando [0] (i=lolsteam@144.135.255.155) 05.51.18 Quit ironyengine ("nothing") 06.01.20 Join Lost-ash [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-120-65.VIC.netspace.net.au) 06.13.08 Quit |joshn| ("KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'") 06.13.30 Join Sandoaway [0] (i=lolsteam@144.135.255.155) 06.13.57 Quit Sando (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.17.45 Quit ashridah (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.18.34 Join Maxime` [0] (n=flemmard@fbx.flemmard.net) 06.18.36 Quit Maxime`` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.23.54 # :D Got much informations. 06.30.43 Quit Maxime` () 06.32.58 # Does not here have person who is interested to 'Gigabeat'? 06.33.28 # Or is it early time yet? 06.45.30 Quit dpassen1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.50.33 Join Maxime [0] (n=flemmard@fbx.flemmard.net) 06.52.14 Quit tvelocity ("Leaving") 07.00.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.02.21 Nick Lost-ash is now known as ashridah (i=ashridah@220-253-120-65.VIC.netspace.net.au) 07.24.42 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A465EE.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.28.17 # Does not here have person who is interested to 'Gigabeat'? 07.28.36 Join modafroman [0] (i=modafrom@CPE-138-130-209-123.qld.bigpond.net.au) 07.28.36 # there are people, they're just not awake 07.28.37 Quit RotAtoR () 07.29.07 # hehe.. 07.29.15 # so..... h300 rockbox..... 07.29.49 # yes? 07.30.19 # how far do you guys reckon it is from being download-able? 07.31.14 # modafroman: not much point asking atm, the only person who has any idea is LinusN and he's probably still asleep 07.31.24 # ahh.. i see 07.31.30 # damn australian time zones :| 07.32.23 # korean time zones too 07.33.06 # seems it could be released soon, coz if the everything is basically the same as the h100.... 07.33.09 # couple of hours should see some activity 07.33.17 # mk 07.33.22 # modafroman: there are some differences that need addressing 07.33.33 # such as? 07.34.03 # the LCD still needs work, the bootloader probably isn't close to being releasable yet. i think there's some issues with the disk driver too, but i'm not sure on that front. 07.34.14 # i see. hrm 07.35.31 # Do not seem to remain much. 07.36.03 # Work was gone much. 07.39.43 Join B4gder [0] (n=daniel@static-213-115-255-230.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se) 07.40.02 Nick Sandoaway is now known as Sando (i=lolsteam@144.135.255.155) 07.40.33 Part Sando 07.40.36 Quit ansivirus__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.41.55 Join Sando [0] (i=lolsteam@144.135.255.155) 07.46.03 Quit Maxime (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.50.50 Join mashalla [0] (i=mashalla@p5498FDF9.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.54.59 Join Maxime [0] (n=flemmard@fbx.flemmard.net) 08.03.10 Join ancelot [0] (n=18e8342a@labb.contactor.se) 08.03.48 # Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger v MUSHROOM MUSHROOM 08.04.13 Mode "#rockbox +o B4gder " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 08.04.37 Quit ancelot (Client Quit) 08.06.29 # -_- 08.07.12 # What is that person? 08.07.22 # what is who? 08.07.38 # ancelot 08.08.07 # the world is full of "funny" people 08.08.21 # hahaha :D 08.08.40 # Embarrassed although there was interest. 08.14.14 # <_FireFly_> Cassandra if you read this then i have successfully updated my wps-widget 08.14.36 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 08.15.37 # no need to tell that, most devs are (or should be) subscribed to rockbox-sf 08.15.53 # we get mailed on all sf updates 08.17.45 # <_FireFly_> k but sure is sure ;) 08.17.51 # true 08.18.11 # morning 08.18.33 # morning 08.18.39 # <_FireFly_> i was a bad guy :) i had many compile-time related bugs left-off for charcell-lcd targets in my wps-widget 08.18.43 # <_FireFly_> moin amiconn 08.19.10 # Now, awake all. :) 08.20.22 # <_FireFly_> gtg cu later all 08.20.23 # " repaired the h300 x11 sim build"? Nah, it won't be red anymore, but not really working either... 08.20.35 # the *build* 08.20.47 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 08.20.48 # not the actual sim 08.21.29 # fixing the sim is only about fixing lcd_update() 08.22.33 # Yes, and adding a ton of strange code to handle the x11 part 08.22.40 # ? 08.22.51 # Apart from that, the fb definition isn't quite right 08.22.51 # yes we need x11 code 08.22.58 # like you need win32 code for the win sim 08.23.04 # how else would we do it? 08.23.23 # fb_data already is word size, so the LCD_WIDTH*2 is twice as much as needed 08.24.11 # true 08.25.13 # Why not just add an #elif to the LCD_DEPTH one (some lines above)? 08.25.52 # feel free to improve it 08.30.56 # We do indeed need x11 code. What I wanted to say is that this x11 code is the major part of the work to fix the sim. I didn't see the point in repairing just the build without making it actually work 08.31.19 # I do 08.31.38 # since it being red already makes it less noticable when you break it someplace else 08.31.38 Part kaouete 08.32.06 # having it break on purpose is no point 08.33.38 # plus, this makes it easier to fix the next problem 08.34.10 # Hmm. Regarding the noticeability, I usually check whether the numbers change in a yellow or red box 08.34.36 # a change in color is more noticable, you can hardly deny that ;-) 08.34.49 # Green somewhat suggests it will work, and as the actual status isn't documented elsewhere... 08.35.11 # I disagree 08.35.21 # the ipod and h300 statuses are green too 08.35.29 # you want to break them too? 08.36.06 # Only ipod boot status is green, and the bootloader works afaik 08.36.39 # if you want the build to be red then go ahead break it 08.36.44 # I won't 08.37.42 # Nah, maybe you're right as it is the build status, but then where could one see the actual status? 08.38.19 # we have no such place really 08.40.47 Quit mashalla () 08.46.56 # the ipod seem got a few more errors... 08.47.01 # sim even 08.47.32 Join Cassandra [0] (n=christi@slappy.coraline.org) 08.47.47 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=icechat5@pd95b7c08.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 08.48.00 # Ah, just the person I was looking for. 08.48.15 # You have an .rwps file I can test with? 08.48.59 # amiconn: does any header mention how the fb_data is used for the 16 bit lcds? 08.49.11 # <_FireFly_> Cassandra yes i have 08.50.04 # B4gder: It's defined in lcd.h (unsigned short for 16bit LCD), but the actual format isn't documented in a header 08.50.18 # For both H300 and ipod it's RGB565 08.50.31 # I wish I understood why occasionally you have to redo the configure, despite no Makefiles having been changed. 08.50.32 # I was thinking about the actual bitpacking... thanks 08.51.04 # Hmm, I'm not quite right, you can deduce the format from teh LCD_RGBPACK() macro 08.51.27 # where's that? 08.51.31 # lcd.h 08.51.55 # Note that the ipod LCD byteswap is for target only, you can ignore it for the sims 08.51.56 # ah, I just typod when searching 08.51.59 # _FireFly_, URL? 08.52.33 # Hmm, this is interesting to solve. I have playlist->filenames (char **) to keep dircache pointers. But then there are qsort(playlist->indices, playlist->amount, sizeof(playlist->indices[0]), compare); and unforunately that can't arrange the filename pointers :/ 08.53.09 # <_FireFly_> Cassandra home.arcor.de/mine-wps.zip 08.53.15 # filenames has the same index as indices 08.53.36 # qsort() works on an array, so it sounds very possible to do that 08.53.41 # B4gder: Maybe it's necessary to make the remote lcd simulation a secondary window on x11. 08.54.01 # not necessary, but perhaps nicer 08.54.02 # B4gder: Hmm.. maybe i could do that on the compare function? I have never really much used the qsort 08.54.04 # Afaiu you have to specify the colour mode of a window in x11 08.54.35 # <_FireFly_> Cassandra 12 px font hight 08.54.45 # Thanks 08.55.11 # Hmmm. Looks like the crossfeed patch broke logf builds somehow. 08.55.30 # If change irc password, what should I do? 08.55.49 Quit _FireFly_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.56.11 # Cassandra: Yes the crossfeed routine needs one register too much. You can build it with -fomit-frame-pointer 08.56.17 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=icechat5@pd95b7c08.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 08.56.32 # B4gder: Any reason why this option isn't set for logf builds= 08.56.35 # ? even 08.56.48 # I don't remember 08.56.55 # any 08.57.44 # amicon: OK. Someone should probably fix that at some point. 08.57.59 # FSVO fix 09.00.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.00.35 # _FireFly_, that URL isn't right. 09.01.16 # <_FireFly_> ups 09.01.33 # <_FireFly_> sorry : home.arcor.de/s.wezel/mine-wps.zip 09.02.14 # Ta 09.03.23 # <_FireFly_> Cassandra it has my complete wps-set (main and remote) 09.06.50 # Bagder: My thoughts regarding wps'es and themes: 09.06.55 # Looks good on the sim. Now to try a real build for Archos and iRiver. 09.07.32 # For proper themes we'll need multiple font support. Then the font(s) would be set in the .wps anyway. 09.08.12 # The status bar setting should be selectable within the .wps too, just for wps display, not influencing the main setting 09.08.24 # <_FireFly_> i have a patch for this 09.08.27 # <_FireFly_> amiconn 09.08.28 # in my eyes, a theme would cover more than just wps 09.08.55 # but I agree that multifont support will improve things 09.09.04 # Yes, right, e.g. a .wps and a .rwps and maybe also some main gui settings 09.10.06 # The status bar thing is easily fixable with a wps tag (force on/force off) 09.10.19 # <_FireFly_> amiconn i have already a patch for this ;) 09.10.26 # yes this patch I mean 09.10.33 # the things that are for WPS only can easily be within the WPS, sure 09.10.53 # <_FireFly_> i have updated the patch to work with my widget 09.11.30 # <_FireFly_> i must only review it to see if it need some adjustments 09.13.00 # Ideally this should also allow to have status bar on in the main wps, but off in the rwps or vice versa 09.13.16 # <_FireFly_> i had it already :) 09.13.43 # <_FireFly_> i had also seperate options for the scrollbar and scrolling speed for the remote 09.13.54 # <_FireFly_> in my unofficial remote-patch 09.14.03 # Hmm - I can't seem to build for JBv2. My firmware is too big. 09.14.09 # Yeah, some remote lcd settings are still missing 09.14.18 # Not only scrolling, but also backlight 09.14.31 # Cassandra: make tools 09.14.37 # Ah. 09.15.21 # The v2/fm can take 400KB firmwares instead of just 200KB, but you need the new scramble that knows about it 09.16.00 # Didn't realise we'd actually hit that limit. 09.16.18 # We're going to be in real trouble when the v1 hits 200k though I guess. 09.16.33 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@labb.contactor.se) 09.16.49 # Cassandra: you might have to re-run "make" in tools/ 09.17.01 # LinusN: [09:14:41] Cassandra: make tools 09.17.02 # Looks like I also need a new uclpack for ROMbox. Never mind - fix that later. 09.17.32 # * LinusN is tired 09.17.39 # Cassandra: For v1 we can compress the image. I'm already thinking about the way to implement it 09.17.56 # <_FireFly_> there are currently some code twice due the fact that only some parts uses the new multiscreen-support 09.18.06 # amiconn, cool. 09.18.06 # hi LinusN 09.18.07 # Should be rather straightforward - just reuse the ucl compressed image and tack on a selfextractor stub 09.18.17 # _FireFly_: any ideas about the x11 sim? 09.18.26 # Jungti1234: hi 09.18.44 # <_FireFly_> LinusN i hadn't much time to look at it 09.19.03 # wow, all h300 builds green, a sight for sore eyes :-) 09.19.06 # Looks like the .rwps works fine with it. 09.22.31 # LinusN: How much is boot loader the work progress rate? 09.22.46 # it's almost done 09.23.00 # i have one issue left - the USB mode 09.23.17 # How much did not completion remain little? 09.23.38 # that sentence was hard to understand 09.23.52 # :( sorry 09.24.09 # Understand even if there is mistake in translation. 09.24.39 # Scary. I'd actually forgotten where to plug in the headphones on my JBFM. 09.25.09 # i assume you want to know when the bootloader is released? 09.25.25 # i hope to release it within a few days 09.26.19 # It is the good news. 09.27.00 DBUG Enqueued KICK Jungti1234 09.27.00 # * Jungti1234 님은 부재중이십니다.(1Music listening by H300) 09.29.48 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 09.29.48 # * LinusN takes a break 09.38.08 # whats the theory on how rockbox works? the ui? in comparison to the h300 ui? 09.38.27 # _FireFly_, remote wpses are loaded using wps_load, yes? 09.38.42 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-130-079.pools.arcor-ip.net) 09.38.55 # modafroman: there are lots of docs on the site 09.39.04 # yea, just looking at them now 09.39.07 # rockbox works similar on all target players 09.40.15 # B4gder, custom WPSes for the player aren't being picked up by your script. (Maybe my fault for changing them so that they're expressed in pixels rather than characters). 09.40.50 # <_FireFly_> all loading of any wps-data is done via gui_wps_data_load iirc 09.40.51 # they probably need to be treated special 09.42.11 # Should be OK to treat them as very 55x14 displays I think. 09.42.34 # (obviously graphical WPSen won't work) 09.43.39 # but that'll add them to the builds with much bigger LCDs too 09.43.46 # which seems unnecessary 09.43.52 Quit Kohlrabi (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.44.50 # Hmm. I see what you mean. Technically they'd still work on the bigger LCDs, but it might not be desirable. 09.44.56 # exactly 09.45.05 # I don't suspect we're going to get that many custom player WPSes though. 09.45.22 # <_FireFly_> Cassandra the loading is done via wps_data_load 09.45.46 # <_FireFly_> this function combines the loading from file or from buffer 09.47.25 # Right. I'm just trying to make sure we can revert to a default rwps as per the ordinary wps. 09.47.43 # <_FireFly_> should be already done 09.47.47 Join Sandoaway [0] (i=lolsteam@144.135.255.155) 09.48.08 Quit Sando (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.48.36 # <_FireFly_> in gpw-common.c:1919 ff 09.48.41 # OK, I'll create the dummy file and see if it works. 09.49.04 # <_FireFly_> wait i'm wrong 09.49.13 # Thought you might be. 09.49.23 # I reckon wps_load needs changing. 09.50.29 # <_FireFly_> wps_data_load not wps_load 09.50.41 # <_FireFly_> you must change this line: if (! strcmp(buf, WPS_DEFAULTCFG) ) 09.52.01 # Ah, right. Don't mind me, it's the morning, I'm slow, and you changed everything. :P 09.52.28 # <_FireFly_> wps.ch wps-display.ch are obsolete with this patch 09.52.51 # Should I delete them then? 09.53.37 # <_FireFly_> yepp 09.55.43 Join oxman [0] (n=bouh@195.95.224.199) 09.55.54 # amiconn: If the ipod sim doesn't byte-swap the framebuffer, then the compiled-in bitmaps won't work any more. They are already byte-swapped. And the CONFIG_LCD macro is also being used to decide which versions of the colour bitmaps to compile. 09.56.20 # <_FireFly_> Cassandra this should do it if you change the line gwps.c:697 from if (! strcmp(buf, WPS_DEFAULTCFG) ) to if (! strcmp(buf, WPS_DEFAULTCFG) || ! strcmp(buf, RWPS_DEFAULTCFG) ) 09.56.23 # Hello, i'm french and i've a h300. Is it possible to install rockbox on it ? In the daily build it's seems ok. But the bootloader exist ? 09.56.37 # oxman: no its not possible yet 09.56.49 # oh ok thanks 09.56.51 # and the daily build is not ok 09.56.56 # Already done it, firefly. :) 09.56.57 # it just builds fine 09.57.02 # <_FireFly_> Cassandra ok 09.57.29 # do you think it will be ok for christmas ? 09.57.31 # Reason I knew to check is cause that's one of my patches. ;) 09.57.42 # <_FireFly_> yeep i know :) 09.58.17 # <_FireFly_> but i had forgotten adapt this for the remote 09.58.24 # <_FireFly_> to adapt 09.58.37 # oxman: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverFAQ#Will_Rockbox_be_released_for_the 09.58.51 # sorry B4gder, thanks 09.59.27 # * Cassandra slaps Bagder about for not thinking ahead and including rwps support in the wps munging stuff. 09.59.55 # good old concept: don't do things ahead to keep it simple 10.00.10 # see you later :) 10.00.11 Part oxman ("WeeChat 0.1.6") 10.00.13 # * Cassandra grins. Only joking anyway. 10.00.20 # the rwps will need go into the .cfg file I guess 10.00.34 # another reason for a theme concept 10.00.48 # <_FireFly_> do you want loading of wps and rwps simultan ?? 10.01.13 # <_FireFly_> afaik on the dev-list it was recommented to have loading of wps and rwps seperatly 10.01.18 # _FireFly_, we can do that with themes (coming soon to a Rockbox near you. 10.01.19 # yues 10.01.31 # those are different issues _FireFly_ 10.02.14 # <_FireFly_> hmm ok 10.02.19 # a "theme" are multiple things 10.02.31 # a RWPS is just the remote WPS 10.03.05 # check your .rockbox/wps/*.cfg files and see 10.04.31 # B4gder, any chance you could fix up wpsbuild.pl to cope with rwps files? My brain hurts. 10.04.54 # I can, are you gonna store them as plain name.rwps files? 10.05.03 # Yup. 10.06.53 # ehmm 10.07.20 # tricky 10.07.34 # ok, I think I have an idea 10.07.45 Quit Sandoaway (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.08.18 # * Cassandra swears profusely. 10.08.44 # _FireFly_, the rwps isn't getting re-initialised after a wps_reset. 10.08.56 # a section could refer to a "prefered" rwps 10.10.30 # *nod* Makes sense. 10.10.38 # <_FireFly_> Cassandra strange 10.10.47 # to be able to produce a good .cfg file 10.11.40 Join muesli- [0] (n=muesli_t@141.71.4.180) 10.12.02 # re 10.12.06 # I bet I know why. I bet you're only setting the .rwps default if the wps data structure is empty. 10.12.24 # <_FireFly_> yepp as for the main-wps 10.12.43 # You'd still have to have a seperate section, I suspect. 10.13.02 # yes 10.13.07 # <_FireFly_> Cassandra but this should be done via wps_reset 10.13.41 # afaik wps_reset just wipes the data structures. They're re-initialised in wps_parse or something of that nature. 10.14.12 # (so we only have the initialisation code in one place) 10.14.35 # <_FireFly_> yepp but in gui_wps_display wps_loaded is check to be false and format_buffer[0] = 0 10.15.02 # <_FireFly_> have you maybe run a logf build ?? 10.15.08 # <_FireFly_> or it is the sim 10.15.16 # <_FireFly_> where you discovert thois bug 10.16.14 # Yes. In the sim. 10.16.29 # Sorry, I probably should've mentioned that. 10.17.13 # <_FireFly_> can you run a debug-session with the sim 10.17.14 # <_FireFly_> ? 10.17.25 # gdb is fine 10.17.35 # <_FireFly_> because i'm currently not under linux to do it myself 10.17.41 # * B4gder shuts up 10.18.32 # <_FireFly_> maybe NB_SCREENS isn't set to 2 on your build 10.18.45 # _FireFly_, I'm getting to the point where I'm not thinking straight any more. 10.18.55 # I'm going to stop and come back to it later. 10.18.57 # so is there a separate statusbar option for the remote? 10.19.07 # <_FireFly_> it will be 10.19.15 # <_FireFly_> afk 10.19.27 # ok, then I'll adjust that later 10.20.08 # * Jungti1234 님이 부재중에서 돌아오셨습니다.(1Music listening by H300) 10.20.11 # Cassandra: I've fixed most of it, I only need a rwps now for testing it 10.20.47 # http://home.arcor.de/s.wezel/mine-wps.zip 10.20.53 # LinusN: The DataSheets wiki page says that the H300 uses the Renesas HD66789R LCD controller - is that correct? 10.20.55 # doing the x11 sim adjusts for color is just too painful with x11 remote over ssh 10.21.10 # Or just copy rockbox_default.wps to rockbox_default.rwps 10.21.19 # good idea 10.23.46 # Right. I need to go back to bed. I'll have another look at this this evening. 10.24.16 # Or do people think it's acceptable for me to check in with the bug that resetting the rwps doesn't work yet? 10.27.30 # Better leave it. See people later. 10.28.12 Quit Cassandra ("Leaving") 10.37.22 Join Sando [0] (i=lolsteam@144.135.255.155) 10.42.34 Join tuh [0] (n=irc@tor/session/x-3fba2d0848b8f3c8) 10.42.54 Quit tuh (Client Quit) 10.45.08 # H300 work should like to finish on Christmas. :) 10.47.31 # rockbox will never be 'finished' 10.47.39 # aha 10.47.47 # Boot loader work 10.48.24 # How are you expecting? 10.49.53 # uh, i don't know about your country, but men don't get pregnant here 10.50.20 # ashridah: I don't think that will translate well :) 10.50.55 # 'expecting' is typically equivalent to 'pregnant', but is slightly more polite for general conversation 10.54.59 # funny tho :) 10.58.47 # who's pregnant? 10.58.50 # eww 10.59.05 # cassandra? 11.00.08 # -_-; 11.00.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.00.33 # Was translation much strange? 11.01.39 # ambiguous, not strange. I'm not a developer, so i don't know the timeframes, but i do know that rockbox will be a work in progress for a fairly long time. 11.01.45 # Good news, the Gigabeat F series uses the same chip as the X series (only the DAC I'm not sure about) 11.02.09 # markun: Jungti1234 seemed to have gigabeat docs for you, if you didn't already know 11.02.38 # I had them already :) 11.02.45 # * amiconn noticed that he did a silly thing :/ 11.03.03 # I hope the win32 h300 sim will get faster soon 11.03.07 Quit _FireFly_ ("Beware of programmers who carry screwdrivers.") 11.04.26 # amiconn: Did you read my comment about the ipod sim and the internal bitmaps? 11.07.14 # yeps, that's indeed a problem 11.07.37 # The lcd type macros aren't defined for the sims 11.07.56 # I think the cleanest solution would be to enable CONFIG_LCD for the sims. But you said that would break the older targets. 11.08.02 # The lcd sizes were sufficient to select the logo - so far 11.08.03 # hmm. the engineer2 wps seems a little broken 11.08.47 # Now we have 2 different pixel formats with the same depth and same size lcd 11.08.56 # (ipod color and H300) 11.09.12 # Yep. And the bitmaps for the Nano won't work on the sim. 11.09.25 # A hack would be to use the H300 bitmaps for the color sim. 11.09.43 # I guess that's what would happen now 11.09.58 # No - the h300 bitmaps are used for IRIVER_H300_SERIES 11.10.24 # This is causing the current error in the sim compiles - but there are sure to be more errors when we fix that one. 11.11.46 Join ipnetukr [0] (n=george@82-70-100-230.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) 11.13.45 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@p54BD69BA.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.14.59 # Looking at Linus's driver for the H300 LCD, it appears to be using the same controller as the Nano and my version of the Color. 11.17.01 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@pd95b7c08.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.17.03 Join mashalla [0] (n=dj-dave@p5498FDF9.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.17.43 # <_FireFly_> i have just tested it works for me on the sim(h120) 11.24.12 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 11.24.23 # amiconn: Could we define CONFIG_LCD for the simulators for devices with 16-bit LCDs? I think that would solve the problem and not create any new ones. 11.25.03 # My suggestion would be to introduce a #define for the colour lcd format 11.25.35 # But we already have one - CONFIG_LCD 11.26.04 # No, that defines the controller, not the pixel format 11.26.10 # OK. 11.27.10 # Yes, I agree - a define for the format of the framebuffer. 11.27.36 # When we support the greyscale ipods, we'll also need a different framebuffer. 11.28.02 # The LCDs are the same size and depth as the H1x0s, but pixels are arranged horizontally. 11.28.06 # will h3 rockbox support video? 11.28.46 # modafroman: If and when someone implements it. But not initially. 11.28.54 # i see 11.29.41 # linuxstb: heh. trust the ipods to be backwards :) 11.29.46 # Rockbox currently has a video player for playing back a custom video format on monochrome LCDs - but that only works on the Archos devices. 11.29.55 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=icechat5@pd95b7c08.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.30.44 Join jelle-k [0] (n=jelle-k@jelle-online.xs4all.nl) 11.31.17 Join larsie [0] (n=Lars@niwg-n-3f07.adsl.wanadoo.nl) 11.31.21 # lo 11.31.32 # hoi lars :P 11.31.35 # :P 11.31.48 # talk english, you, you, dutchie :P 11.31.55 # Maybe the build system should be generating .c files from .bmp files - now that we have different formats for the same size and depth LCDs. 11.32.14 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.32.14 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@p54BD69BA.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.33.29 # does anyone know when the patcher for the H3x0 will be launched? 11.33.49 # <_FireFly_> not in the near future i guess 11.34.30 # linuxstb: That sounds like a good idea - the build system could run bmp2rb 11.37.14 # Re my silliness concering the win32 sim: I keep telling people that display bitmaps resemble BMPs, but didn't use that myself :-/ 11.37.31 # Now I have a win32 sim with a 16bit display bitmap :) 11.39.56 # amiconn: Are you going to add the framebuffer format #defines or shall I? 11.42.09 Quit mashalla (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.44.30 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 11.44.52 # linuxstb: I won't do it right now. I suggest the following names: #define LCD_PIXELFORMAT, values: RGB565 (565), RGB565SWAPPED (3553) for now 11.45.21 # To be complemented later when 4-grey iPod support gets added 11.53.24 # amiconn: OK. I can't do it now either, but I'll try and do it this evening. 11.53.54 Part larsie 11.58.03 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.58.45 Join Zak1392 [0] (n=8ba8dce9@labb.contactor.se) 12.00.31 # so... a bootloader within a few days! cool 12.01.11 Join mashalla [0] (n=dj-dave@p5498FDF9.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.02.37 Quit modafroman () 12.04.25 Quit linuxstb_ ("Leaving") 12.04.42 Quit ipnetukr ("yikes! segmentation fault!") 12.05.16 Quit Zak1392 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 12.06.45 Join Zak1392 [0] (n=zkeeping@CPE-139-168-220-233.sa.bigpond.net.au) 12.17.47 Join NicoFR [0] (n=nico404@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 12.17.59 Join Febs [0] (n=4086d22c@labb.contactor.se) 12.20.21 Quit muesli- ("ich will K�he!!!") 12.41.21 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m79.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 12.41.50 # Hi Moos 12.42.09 # Hi markun and all 12.43.03 # <_FireFly_> hi 12.44.24 Quit mashalla (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.46.59 # howndy 12.47.04 # howdy 12.48.45 # markun: Is chip that is used gigabeat F series and X series same? 12.49.00 Join webguest12 [0] (n=c2848364@labb.contactor.se) 12.49.32 # i just read this :d 12.49.33 # 09.25.09 # i assume you want to know when the bootloader is released? 12.49.33 # 09.25.25 # i hope to release it within a few days 12.49.44 # yeah ! 12.49.49 # good job ! 12.51.50 # hehe.. 12.52.50 # yeah, excellent news! 12.54.19 # LinusN, when the bootloader is done, let me know if you want someone to test it on a U.S. player. 12.54.55 # monday maybe linus ?:D 12.55.12 # i have a us player 12.55.28 # Ah, I did not know that! 12.55.35 # i have borrowed one 12.56.33 # cool:D 12.56.36 # yes i cant wait ! 12.56.51 # Thanks for all of your hard work on the H300 port by the way. I bought mine a couple of months ago knowing that RB would one day be available. 12.57.10 # linus-so you have an int. version and you were able to borrow a US one? 12.57.19 # Thank to linus. 12.57.22 # I gave my H120 to my wife, and I have really missed RB since then. 12.57.38 # haha, i don't balme ya 12.57.45 # 'blame' 12.58.15 Quit webguest12 ("CGI:IRC") 13.00.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.01.16 Quit Jungti1234 ("Bye Bye~ http://cafe.naver.com/iriverh300") 13.07.48 Quit ripnetuk ("Ninja IRC v1.5.8.1(#1) exiting after 5d22h51m25s of use") 13.10.26 Quit Zak1392 () 13.10.37 Quit NicoFR () 13.13.58 # unfortunately, it seems i have two us versions 13.14.26 # one with and one without drm 13.14.45 # doesn't all of them lose drm once you flash them? 13.14.46 # so i will need an international version some day 13.15.08 # preglow: that's what i intend to find out with the drm enabled player 13.15.15 # LinusN: i'm pretty sure they do 13.15.32 # yes they do, but i want to find out how and why 13.15.40 # LinusN: dump the eeprom first :) 13.15.48 # naturally 13.16.52 # i *think* each unit has a unique flash content, for the DRM key 13.17.06 # ahh, i thought that was kept in the eeprom 13.17.12 # that's another option 13.17.19 # kind of made more sense 13.17.26 # perhaps 13.17.32 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@host213-123-154-169.in-addr.btopenworld.com) 13.17.40 # hi, linuxstb 13.17.56 # Hello. 13.18.12 # LinusN: Am I right in saying the H300 uses the Renesas HD66789R LCD controller? 13.18.24 # i think there is a reason why there are no us firmware upgrades for the h300 13.18.48 # linuxstb: it is at least *very* similar 13.18.57 # aren't mose lcd controlers very similar? 13.19.08 # all b&w lcd controllers i've seen have been, at least 13.19.14 # s/mose/most/, yes 13.19.20 # Your h300 driver seems to be using the same command as the ipod driver. 13.19.23 # this is my first rgb controller 13.19.26 # s/command/commands/ 13.19.55 # i have used the hd66789r data sheet for reference 13.20.18 # I think the ipodlinux people did the same - they link to our wiki copy of the PDF from their wiki. 13.20.19 # and so far it matches very well 13.20.29 # :-) 13.22.05 # I noticed you do 16-bit writes, whereas the ipl code does 32-bit writes. 13.22.08 # ah, no more disk spinning up with playlist viewer :) 13.22.49 # linuxstb: yes, the h300 bus interface is not too cleverly designed 13.24.40 # preglow: Are you working on anything for the ipod? 13.25.05 # linuxstb: no, i'm afraid not 13.25.12 # i was planning on doing some work today 13.25.56 # I think we have to do the crt0.S, interrupts and button drivers next, and they are all inter-related. So I'm not sure what I can work on next. 13.26.38 # yes, i know 13.26.52 # those are definitely what we need to do 13.27.20 # i need to read some documentation for a couple of hours now 13.27.24 # i'll see what i can do after that 13.28.09 # I may try and get the windows sim compiling and think about the button assignments. 13.31.24 # sounds good 13.32.30 # What do you think of the scrollwheel? One solution to our lack of buttons would be to not use the scrollwheel as a wheel, but make touches at different positions simulate a button press. 13.32.57 # LinusN: Did you see the post on the Ondio forum regarding playlists? Looks like our infamous 'norwegian language course' problem :( 13.33.08 # yes 13.36.02 # linuxstb: well, as long as that's not the only way of using it 13.36.20 # linuxstb: but doesn't sound like it'd be too hard to detect 13.37.35 # Because the buttons are so close together, it's going to be uncomfortable to press key combinations. 13.38.01 # I'm thinking for example, about how the WPS screen will work - we need up/down for volume, left/right for skip and long left/right for seeking. 13.38.35 # And the only direction buttons we have are the two directions of turning the wheel. 13.39.29 # Plus next/previous of course. So ignore me... 13.40.03 # we could do a couple of tests with the scrollwheel touch thing 13.40.07 # So in the WPS, the wheel can be the volume, and the next/previous buttons can act like left/right on the H1x0. 13.40.10 # might be neat, but i think it'd be too sensitive 13.40.18 # linuxstb: i'd also like the wheel to seek 13.40.30 # somehow 13.40.50 # i think the wheel is a great control mechanism, so i'd like to use it for wherever it makes sense 13.41.32 # I don't like it that much - I prefer to keep my fingers still, rather than rotating an imaginary wheel. 13.41.54 # But I'm happy to keep the wheel functionality. I'm probably a small minority. 13.41.57 # gives me a sense of doing something other than just waiting 13.41.59 # which i like 13.49.40 Quit _FireFly_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.54.11 Join _FireFly__ [0] (n=icechat5@pd95b7c08.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.55.01 # * Febs returns and reads discussion about DRM. 13.55.46 # LinusN, could you include a utility to dump the EEPROM to disk before running fwpather (or H300 equivalent) so that each player's DRM key is available if you find out later where it is stored? 13.55.56 # s/fwpather/fwpatcher 13.56.08 # Febs: how is that supposed to work? 13.56.41 # how can i run a utility on the h300 without adding the bootloader first? 13.56.56 # ha! 13.56.59 # simple 13.57.02 # Good point. That's why your the programmer and I just write documentation. 13.57.10 # s/your/you're 13.57.29 # * Febs has been reading Mistic River too much and is losing his grammar skills. 13.58.13 # gotta reboot, cu soon 13.58.15 Part LinusN 14.01.03 # haha 14.01.10 # 'fraid that's not possible, n 14.01.10 # o 14.01.17 # who the hell wants drm wmas anyway? 14.01.21 # i hope you haven't bought any? :> 14.03.10 # Bagder: Regarding build status page - would it make sense to force these builds (make -k) in order to unhide currently hidden errors? 14.11.18 Quit ashridah ("sleep") 14.11.23 # yes 14.12.20 # hm, it already does make -k 14.12.44 # I guess the problem is then within our makefiles 14.12.46 # But if you just type "make -k" in the build directory, will the -k option be passed through to all the other makes? Or is that covered as well? 14.13.00 # now the wps is lighting fast, no lag at all :) 14.13.11 # linuxstb: right, I think that's what we need to fix 14.13.14 # Slasheri: how? 14.13.39 # preglow: using the dircache to read the playlist entries before real taginfo is ready 14.14.11 # and while skipping tracks, buffering will start only after 1s of user inactivity 14.14.24 # Slasheri: commit, please 14.14.31 # Slasheri: or at least let me test it :) 14.14.41 # and then disk spins up. But from that point on, the ui still doesn't lag at all :) 14.14.52 # Slasheri: Does that mean that playing the next track is delayed by a second - for cases where the next track isn't in the buffer? 14.14.59 # preglow: i will commit evening. I still have to fix the qsort problem 14.15.08 # linuxstb: yes 14.15.19 # OK. But that's not uncommon for lossless files. 14.15.30 # Slasheri: you might be able to lower that below a second, btw 14.15.32 # but we'll see 14.15.41 # this sounds like a marvelous change 14.15.43 # preglow: true, 0.5s would be enough, i guess 14.15.58 # I'm sure us lossless users can live with that. 14.23.03 Quit Febs ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 14.23.52 # if it means a non-laggy wps, i don't care, it could have been two seconds and it would have been all good 14.25.22 # I agree. The plus points far outweigh the bad. 14.27.24 # Slasheri: but it'll only be non-laggy with dircache enabled? 14.31.20 Join Sandking [0] (n=jacek@ogorek.akron.net.pl) 14.33.57 # Does anybody know what replaygain does, when the setting says it should use album gain but there is only track gain? 14.36.23 # should use track gain, but I don't know if it does 14.40.36 # preglow: completely non-laggy, yes. Little laggy without dircache enabled 14.46.51 # Slasheri: any improvement from before? 14.48.13 # preglow: yes, it should be faster. But without dircache it's not instant because filename has to be read from the playlist file 14.48.14 Join mashalla [0] (i=mashalla@p5498FDF9.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.48.23 # of course 14.48.27 # but when will you commit? 14.48.49 # preglow: as soon as i fix the one remaining small major issue 14.49.04 # now i have to go back back soon :) 14.49.33 Quit Sandking (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.51.54 # small major? 14.51.54 # heh 14.51.56 # what is that? 14.53.45 # man, coding for 56k is almost like doing coldfire with emac 14.53.53 # lots of mac instructions with parallel fetches 14.53.56 # this time two of them 14.54.13 # :-) 14.54.34 Join Sandking [0] (n=jacek@ogorek.akron.net.pl) 14.54.57 # What are you doing with a 56k? 14.55.12 # preparing for some work 14.55.33 # i'm going to code an ambisonics encoder/decoder on a proprietary 56k based system 14.55.58 # something around 12 56k processors in it 14.56.54 # Not something the coldfire could cope with then... 14.56.59 # haha 14.57.08 # depends on how many channels you want 14.57.12 # this thing can cope with 256 14.57.35 # coldfire might struggle a bit with filtering, 56k based systems usually have zero wait-state ram 14.58.50 # it's only got around 4 24 bits registers plus some accumulators, you're meant to be fetching from memory constantly 14.59.41 # which is a far cry from a h1x0 indeed 14.59.47 # Makes optimising musepack sound simple. 15.00.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.00.15 # it's not exactly hard when you get how it works 15.00.18 # which again isn't very hard 15.02.21 # Anyway, let me know if you do anything related to the ipod - I'm tempted to write a simple crt0.S this evening if you're not going to be working on it. 15.02.41 # i'll start looking at it in an hours time 15.02.45 # Linus is making me jealous by booting Rockbox on his H300... 15.03.01 # hahaha 15.03.49 # but indeed, if you work getting the sim to work, you'll have done plenty of useful work 15.04.22 # Yep, I'll do that. All the plugins need ipod button definitions as well, so there's plenty to keep me busy. 15.04.35 # the x11 sim version have no color lcd support yet 15.05.33 Quit Sandking (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.05.54 Join Sandking [0] (n=jacek@ogorek.akron.net.pl) 15.12.26 # B4gder: I'm happy cross-compiling the windows sim and running it with Wine. 15.12.41 # So I'm planning to get the win32 versions of the ipod sims working. 15.12.51 # chicken! ;-) 15.13.12 # Always take the easy option. 15.13.22 # I might have a x11 color lcd done in a not so distant future 15.15.13 # linuxstb: I'll soon commit my 16bit framebuffer changes for win32 15.15.21 # _significantly_ faster :) 15.15.49 # having a fast sim feels... secondary ;-) 15.16.01 # but that's just me 15.18.01 # Yes, but it also simplifies things to use 16bit 15.18.31 # The framebuffer->bitmap transfer turns into a simple copy operation 15.18.56 # the joy of a naive system ;-) 15.19.07 # win32 vs x11 I mean 15.19.35 # x11's complex arch is really not easy to work with 15.19.39 Quit uski (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.20.05 # perhaps we should one day switch to use a proper lib ontop of x11 15.20.29 Quit mashalla () 15.20.37 # <_FireFly__> there are many toolkits 15.20.40 # Hmm, perhaps a lib that is available both for x11 and windows? 15.20.48 # <_FireFly__> gtk wxwindows 15.20.48 # yes 15.21.00 # there are several 15.21.07 # even qt 15.21.07 # <_FireFly__> wxwidget (was wxwidndows) 15.21.22 # <_FireFly__> or that but qt isn't at all under gpl 15.21.28 # yes it is 15.21.34 # gtk (?) 15.21.42 # gtk is for win too, yes 15.21.55 # Yes I know, as e.g. gimp uses it 15.22.07 # <_FireFly__> amiconn gtk = gimp tool kit ;) 15.22.08 # What I don't know is how easy it is to use 15.22.16 # no 15.22.29 # gnome tool kit surely 15.22.49 # hm, no 15.22.57 # at least GTK+ is gimp tool kit 15.23.15 # <_FireFly__> ;) 15.23.16 # <_FireFly__> GTK+ was initially developed for and used by the GIMP, the GNU Image Manipulation Program. Therefore, it is named "The GIMP Toolkit", so that the origins of the project are remembered. Today GTK+ is used by a large number of applications, and is the toolkit used by the GNU project's GNOME desktop. 15.23.49 # news to me 15.24.18 # <_FireFly__> gtk.org 15.24.28 # still, quite an undertaking to port everything to such a lib 15.25.27 # <_FireFly__> yepp 15.25.55 # people aren't exactly queueing up to fix the simulators as it is 15.25.55 # A disadvantage would be that the user needs to install the library if he wants to run the sim. 15.26.02 # yes 15.26.06 # Today the win32 simulator is self-contained 15.26.39 # Of course it's a non-issue for devs, but there are people asking for sim to develop .wps files 15.27.10 # yes, but an install package for the sim on win could include the required libs 15.27.50 # Yes, and make it bigger and more complex to install 15.28.12 # yes, but easier to maintain in the long run 15.28.16 # yes 15.28.17 # if we can share codebase 15.29.01 # Speaking about sims, imho the archos/ dir should be renamed 15.29.10 # yes 15.34.28 # time to educate the masses! 15.34.31 Quit B4gder ("time to say moo") 15.36.37 # If we used wxwidgets, you can easily create a standalone executable with the libs statically linked. That's one thing I like about it. 15.43.58 # <_FireFly__> cu later 15.45.42 Quit _FireFly__ ("If you can't laugh at yourself, make fun of other people.") 15.48.02 Quit Sandking () 15.55.21 # gtk for windows is not very hard to install 15.55.55 # But maybe even I am too much of a programmer to judge things like this 15.59.46 Quit ]Maggie[ ("leaving") 16.03.24 Join DMJC [0] (n=DMJC-L@60-240-222-122.tpgi.com.au) 16.08.09 Join Sandking [0] (n=jacek@axh55.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 16.11.10 Quit Sandking (Remote closed the connection) 16.13.44 Join Sandking [0] (n=jacek@axh55.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 16.15.56 # any idea how long h340 series will take to be upto h100 series firmware? 16.16.24 # I noticed the h100 remote code is there which works well for me.. 16.16.44 Quit Sandking (Remote closed the connection) 16.17.54 # you mean how long it'll take for h3x0 rockbox to be as good as h1x0 rockbox? 16.18.31 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A473E1.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.19.05 # yeah 16.19.10 # I had a 100 series 16.19.16 # broke it about 2 weeks ago 16.19.19 Join Sandking [0] (n=jacek@axh55.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 16.19.22 # they're replacing with a 340 16.19.38 # well 16.19.43 # be nice if I could run rockbox when i get my new player :D 16.19.47 # more or less the only thing that needs fixing is graphics 16.19.48 # um, iriver is replacing your h120 with a h340!? 16.19.58 # solexx: well, they don't have any h1x0 anymore 16.20.02 # it's been discontinued long ago 16.20.04 # h140 with h340 16.20.06 # hehehe 16.20.09 # riight 16.20.47 # if you want proof I'll get photos of the order forms etc tomorrow 16.20.50 # well, they could still get some from mp3-player.de ;-) 16.20.53 # 1:50 am here heh 16.20.59 # but still, dmcj 16.21.03 # it should be usable really fast 16.21.09 # some plugins will probably need updating 16.21.47 # nice 16.22.06 # I used to compile my firmware from cvs 16.22.19 Quit Sandking (Remote closed the connection) 16.22.57 # guess I should get the SDK again 16.24.53 Join Sandking [0] (n=jacek@axh55.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 16.24.58 Join uski [0] (n=uski@82.65.173.86) 16.25.46 # iRiver, Catch the digital flow!.mp3 16.25.49 # hehehe 16.26.59 # does rockbox improve battery charging firmware in iRiver? 16.27.44 # <_FireFly_> afaik charging is done in hardware 16.27.52 Quit Sandking (Remote closed the connection) 16.29.00 # so why does it display 40% battry after 15 mins of charging? 16.29.11 # that can't be right 16.30.34 # measurement of remaining battery is very inaccurate 16.30.52 # tried emptying your battery 16.30.58 # let it play for some minutes and it should be "accurate enough" 16.30.58 # and recharging it? 16.31.25 # it was completly empty, and it charged for 15 mins, and displayed 40% or 6 hours battery 16.31.54 # with the charger still connected? 16.31.59 # no 16.32.37 # am I reading this right? 16.32.39 # like solexx said you, let it play 16.32.49 # we could rig a joystick into the H340 series? 16.33.00 # (as long as a driver was written) 16.33.56 # there's an interesting idea when you factor in rockbox.... 16.34.08 # I mean rockboy 16.34.36 # yeah, the keys are right next to each other. oh, wait... 16.34.38 # DMJC: this question will be here in the future, sure someone will test 16.35.04 # nice 16.35.07 # DMJC: joystick replacment I mean 16.35.17 # ah 16.35.31 # hmm wonder what speed h340 is 16.35.46 # speed of what? 16.35.47 # why stick to gb emu.. if it could do SNES... 16.36.02 # Mordov_: the battery charges very rapidly at start, then slower and slower 16.36.08 # nes/snes maybe 16.36.16 # Mordov_: so as a matter of fact, it's not impossible 16.36.16 # h340's cpu 16.36.18 # preglow: cool, thx 16.38.04 # DMJC: hah 16.38.04 # <^Guest37784> mm, only linus works on the h300 series rockbox? 16.38.09 Nick ^Guest37784 is now known as ^BeN^ (i=Paprica@85-250-225-75.bb.netvision.net.il) 16.38.10 # DMJC: h340's cpu is the same as h100 16.38.12 # *forget* it 16.38.13 # xD 16.38.28 # people always have this disillusion that the h3x0 series is faster 16.38.28 # ok 16.38.38 # well not dillusion, just wondering 16.38.41 # you'll be lucky if someone manages to get rockboy in color 16.38.45 # heh h3x0 is prolly slower 16.38.47 # without it lagging to death 16.38.55 # yeah color screen will take MORE cpu time 16.38.58 # Hello HCl: long time "disconected" from Rockbox :) 16.39.08 # cause i took the color tables out of rockboy to speed it up 16.39.19 # yea, well.. school, girlfriend.. 16.39.44 # hehe we all have a life XD 16.40.10 # though i do little at school, it takes tons from my free time 16.40.33 # HCl: Did you ever look at the iPod port of rockboy that the ipodlinux people did? 16.40.37 # nope. 16.40.41 # why? 16.40.54 # I was just curious if they did a good job. 16.41.00 # no idea.. i have no ipod 16.41.03 # HCl: Rockboy should already run on H3x0 (in greyscale) 16.41.05 # i'm sure they can make it run better 16.41.06 # I adapted it 16.41.13 # ipod has more cpu 16.41.19 # HCl: nah, not really 16.41.21 # heh yeah it has 2 of them 16.41.31 # it doesn't have more cpu? 16.41.32 # Yes, but with lower clock rate each 16.41.36 # well, it has MORE 16.41.36 # true 16.41.37 # like two of them 16.41.39 # It's got two 75MHz ARMs 16.41.41 # :P 16.41.42 # Dual arm7 75 MHz? 16.41.45 # hmk. 16.41.48 # but you can't utilise that unless you do some threading 16.42.04 # they've got micro linux on it 16.42.22 # mate of mine is experimenting with it atm 16.42.39 # doom runs like crap 16.42.39 # I doubt the ipod port of gnuboy uses both CPUs though. So if they have it realtime on one, then we'll be fine. 16.42.51 # DMJC: I think Doom runs very well. 16.42.53 # i doubt they have it real time.. 16.42.55 # Linux is certainly possible on iriver as well; the question is whether it makes sense 16.43.07 # heh that'd be awesome 16.43.10 # I wonder.. 16.43.21 # I know a guy who likes messing around with that kind of stuff 16.43.36 # amiconn: The only reason IMO for Linux on a DAP is to use the USB and other drivers. 16.43.39 # does a ton of embedded devel 16.43.58 # Linux should run on even lower hardware 16.44.00 # and so you can run a server 16.44.11 # because everyone runs servers on linux 16.44.23 # j/k 16.44.46 # linux would only make a bit of sense on h3x0 16.44.49 # linuxstb: The USB driver argument is only valid for USB OTG 16.44.54 # cause you can hook usb hubs up to it and so. 16.44.56 # amiconn: Obviously. 16.45.02 # and actually do something useful with it 16.45.10 # i don't understand the person who would want to use his iriver that way. 16.45.11 # but yea. 16.45.16 # The iPod has USB OTG as well IIUC. 16.45.41 # I believe the ipodlinux people are close to getting it working. 16.45.48 # HCl: Port the dnet client? ;) 16.46.01 # what is rockbox like internally? 16.46.04 # no. heh. 16.46.06 # i have little enough time as it is 16.46.19 # compared to other OSes? 16.46.33 # no idea, i never worked with the low level drivers. 16.46.49 # i'm a software person 16.46.53 # bbl, or something.. 16.47.17 # heh 16.47.25 # what is a nes compared to a GB? 16.48.03 # not sure. 16.48.17 # i know gb is like one of the simplest gaming things there are 16.48.23 # its natively like what.. 8mhz.. 16.48.36 # but i'm gonna make dinner and such 16.48.38 # bye 16.49.01 # linuxstb: you've got a pp5020 in your ipod? 16.49.11 # preglow: So I've been told. 16.49.24 # what cpu was gameboy? 16.49.29 # DMJC: z80, modified 16.49.43 # 8-bit 6502 is the nes chip 16.49.50 # yes 16.49.54 # they're pretty much the same 16.50.28 # linuxstb: seems my ipod can be clocked faster in addition to having more iram, then 16.50.29 # cool 16.50.45 # so gnuboy could be modded to handle nes titles then? 16.50.51 # get mario 3 working :D 16.50.59 # DMJC: no, not the same like that 16.51.21 # DMJC: it's just that the architectures are pretty alike, they're not instruction compatible or anything 16.51.30 # figures 16.51.35 # what I meant though 16.51.45 # is that the iriver if it can run gameboy games 16.51.55 # can possibly be fast enough for nes? 16.52.20 # preglow: Have you tested that you have more IRAM? 16.53.19 # You may be able to squeeze the LCD framebuffer into IRAM - it's already smaller than the H300 and iPod color framebuffer. 16.53.22 # linuxstb: no, but the spec sheet says so 16.53.26 # crap.. I need sleep 16.53.28 # night all 16.53.38 Nick DMJC is now known as DMJC-sleep (n=DMJC-L@60-240-222-122.tpgi.com.au) 16.56.43 # linuxstb: i can't figure out what the differences between a pp5022 and a pp5021 (ipod nano) is, though 16.57.17 # Where did you get the 5021 specification from? I can only see the 5020 and 5022 on the portalplayer site. 16.57.33 # me too 16.57.36 # can't find pp5021 16.57.50 # but what davidc mentioned made me think it was pretty much a 5022 16.58.30 # seems i got my answer there 16.58.51 # Or maybe he was confusing the 5021 with the 5022 - i.e. the extra iram is only in the 5022. 17.00.02 # perhaps, but if you look at #ipl now, you'll see that slowcoder confirmed they're pretty much the same 17.00.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.02.16 # hah 17.02.19 # the shuffle has a 56k core 17.04.48 # Link 24 of them together... 17.04.48 Join Coldtoast [0] (n=edan@ppp110-249.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net) 17.06.06 # i'm wondering about this ipod generation conondrum 17.06.24 # Which conundrum? compile-time vs run-time detection? 17.06.32 # if detecting the internals is as difficult as the ipl people says, it might be more clever to do stuff runtime 17.06.36 # especially in the bootloader 17.06.57 # so people don't misunderstand and flash something they can't use 17.07.02 # flash/install/etc 17.07.05 Join muesli_- [0] (i=muesli_t@Bc1e6.b.pppool.de) 17.07.51 # A GUI installer can detect which ipod a user has based on a text file stored in the iPod_Control directory. 17.08.02 # right 17.08.05 # then no worries 17.08.16 # is that idiotproof? 17.08.16 # high 17.08.26 # They can always make better idiots. 17.08.59 # But yes, it gives you the hardware revision - which will be enough to detect between the different builds I was planning. 17.09.22 # I think the Apple updater probably uses it - it comes with a whole collection of different firmwares. 17.10.13 # But for example, having code to deal with greyscale LCDs in a build for colour ipods is wasteful (and vice-versa). 17.10.21 # yes, certainly 17.11.01 # The natural way to split it seems to be "1G-3G", "4G b/w", "4G Color", "Nano" and "Mini" 17.11.16 # And I think it's relatively easy for a user to choose. 17.14.28 # should be 17.18.53 # but ok, i've gotta go catch a movie 17.19.06 # start work on crt0.S when i get back 17.19.09 # later 17.20.45 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@84.254.13.2) 17.20.45 Join hardeep [0] (n=hardeep@c-67-188-108-180.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 17.22.19 # <^BeN^> who has iriver h300 series player? 17.29.13 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.30.21 Join ripnetuk [0] (n=george@82-70-100-230.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) 17.35.02 Quit ripnetuk (Client Quit) 17.42.00 Join NicoFR [0] (n=nico404@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 17.54.59 Join paugh [0] (n=kickback@2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:8000:0:3e03:6822) 18.07.06 Join Philip_0729 [0] (n=Miranda@user-4484.l5.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk) 18.10.31 # Ben: I have an H340 18.11.57 # puups 18.12.06 # oops.. 18.12.08 # wrong window 18.23.30 # <^BeN^> Philip_0729 do you try the usb otg with some disk on key? 18.32.49 # flash memory drives? yes they usually work without a problem 18.36.21 Join pinkutank [0] (n=ddd@85.101.96.60) 18.40.19 Join davidc____ [0] (n=chatzill@s142-179-110-30.bc.hsia.telus.net) 18.40.25 Quit davidc__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.40.35 Nick davidc____ is now known as davidc__ (n=chatzill@s142-179-110-30.bc.hsia.telus.net) 18.40.55 # hey there 18.41.01 # any eta on ipod rb 18.42.21 # About 9pm. 18.42.30 # :D 18.42.32 # (GMT) 18.42.38 # everybody is mocking me today 18.43.01 # Seriously - it's possible Rockbox will boot for the first time on the iPod this evening. I have faith. 18.43.03 # linuxstb: All the gigabeat players use FOREVERY (RECORD pierecord FROM graphdata) { 18.43.07 # float ang := (pierecord.value / total) * 2f * Pi; 18.43.09 # RECORD off_center := [x := 0, y := 0]; 18.43.12 # IF (pierecord.selected) 18.43.14 # off_center := coord(lastang + ang * 0.5f, 30 * aalevel); 18.43.17 # RECORD ARRAY thispie := pie(x + off_center.x, y + off_center.y, lastang, ang, rad); 18.43.20 # //border := border CONCAT pie; 18.43.22 # GfxFillPath(aa_canvas, colors[#pierecord], 0, thispie); 18.43.25 # GfxDrawPath(aa_canvas, black, line_width * aalevel, thispie); 18.43.27 # lastang := lastang + ang; 18.43.30 # } 18.43.32 # sorry.. 18.43.35 # WM8751 18.43.50 # So pierecord is unrelated? :) 18.44.00 # I keep forgetting that selecting is not the same as copying in windows :) 18.44.20 # <_FireFly_> ;) 18.44.21 # Maybe I should stop working and go home.. 18.44.22 # so would it be good if I trade my h120 for an ipod video instead of a h320 18.44.31 # <_FireFly_> yeah no selection buffer under windows ;) 18.44.51 # pinkutank: Trade it for a Toshiba Gigabeat player, then you can help me out :) 18.45.00 # I dont know programming 18.45.03 # pinkutank: The ipod video is a new type of ipod - Rockbox won't work on it. 18.45.32 # ? but linux will be booting on it soon, wasnt it the same process 18.45.54 # markun, how is it going, did you run bdm yet 18.45.55 # linuxstb: does any of the ipods use the WM8751? 18.46.07 # pinkutank: I don't even have a Gigabeat yet ;) 18.46.13 # oh lol 18.46.22 # pinkutabk: linux boots on the video ipod now, but the problem is a new video processor sitting between the CPU and the LCD. That is not understood. 18.46.34 # And I hope I don't need a BDM 18.46.43 # markun: I don't think so - see http://ipodlinux.org/Generations 18.46.52 # But the devices are very similar. 18.47.36 # what's special about that gigabeat player? 18.47.46 # 400MHz ARM processor... 18.48.01 # oh 18.48.06 # Ships with a Linux-based firmware 18.48.07 # errrrr, why? 18.48.11 # url? :) 18.49.39 # gigabeat 400mhz? 18.49.42 # thats like a pda 18.49.58 # thats the same as my old pc... 18.50.12 # hehe 18.50.12 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatInfo 18.50.27 # reading along 18.50.28 Quit hardeep (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC has never been so good") 18.50.35 # maybe its too soon to trade my h120 after all 18.50.48 # why would you trade your h120 anyways 18.51.05 # its a little chunky 18.51.07 # + 18.51.14 # i'll get a h300 soon :D 18.51.21 # its getting old with small scratches and etc, battery life is going down 18.51.29 # so get a battery upgrade 18.51.40 # * HCl doesn't understand why people care about size so much 18.51.48 # the smaller it is, the easier it is to lose 18.51.57 # no 18.52.08 # the sammer it is, the better it is in my pocket 18.52.11 # thickness is the main problem 18.52.12 # skaller 18.52.16 # + 18.52.22 # I really like changing daps 18.52.24 # h120 isnt that thick 18.52.29 # this my 4th/5th 18.52.39 # i even owned a godot player 18.52.43 # right, well. afk.. 18.52.54 # that I requested from the manfacturer 18.53.17 # I never sold any og the players with a loss tho 18.53.25 # only the nomad jukebox 6gb 18.53.36 # wich I sold for a 40$ difference from the retail 18.54.02 # oh and the rio karma, after neing fixed xxxx times, was sold for 240-250 or so, I bought it for 280 at its time 18.56.11 Quit linuxstb ("Client Exiting") 18.56.56 Quit tvelocity (Remote closed the connection) 18.57.29 # ok, I found a new reason to buy ipod 18.57.30 # http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/product.cfm?id=5294 18.57.32 # :D:D 18.57.37 # might not be worksafe 18.57.49 # no problems with pictures 18.57.51 # but words 18.59.42 # people dont know where to stop 19.00.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.01.12 # are we really expecting to see a gigabeat rb soon? youi'd really resurrect the player you know, you can even get sponsorship from samsung 19.01.27 # because trhe palyer is dead with its current fw 19.01.46 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@84.254.13.2) 19.02.53 # ermm 19.03.03 # I scared everyone now no one is alking to me :'( 19.07.12 # is it possible to get a H300 sim win32 build without having to compile it myself ? 19.08.33 Join petur [0] (i=petur@d54C2B033.access.telenet.be) 19.11.43 Join FatElvis [0] (n=4005de1c@labb.contactor.se) 19.11.44 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-130-079.pools.arcor-ip.net) 19.13.49 # preglow: now the wps speedup works, but i will add a thread to playlist to fix a performance issue with large playlists (> 5000 files), so it can scan the file pointers from dircache on background (it can take ~3s) 19.15.09 Join dpassen1 [0] (n=dpassen1@resnet-233-61.resnet.umbc.edu) 19.15.24 Quit tvelocity ("Leaving") 19.19.12 # <_FireFly_> Slasheri: have you changed something in wps.c wps-display.c to make your speedup for wps ?? 19.19.54 # _FireFly_: only two lines in wps.c (very trivial change), nothing else :) 19.23.40 Quit muesli_- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.24.10 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@84.254.13.2) 19.24.40 # <_FireFly_> Slasheri: i hope the changes are also trivial in my wps-widget :) 19.24.50 Join webguest78 [0] (n=507e7b1e@labb.contactor.se) 19.25.18 # _FireFly_: hehe, should be :) in fact i only moved two lines up a few slots 19.25.38 Quit FatElvis ("CGI:IRC") 19.26.04 # pinkutank: The X30 is not chuncky I think.. 19.26.40 Quit webguest78 (Client Quit) 19.27.08 # x30? 19.27.17 # 3x0 ? 19.27.34 # i think its an aesthatically pleasing brick 19.28.09 # This one? http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000530059563/ 19.28.30 # oh tshibas 19.28.36 # I didnt clal them chunky 19.28.41 # i said h120 was a little chunky 19.28.51 # Why do you think that samsung would be happy? 19.28.59 # It's made by Toshiba 19.30.27 # I know 19.30.31 # i 19.30.33 Join muesli_- [0] (i=muesli_t@Bc15c.b.pppool.de) 19.30.35 # misthought it 19.30.43 # then I didnt care for correcting it 19.30.49 # because no one was answering 19.31.03 # so do we see rb booting on gigabeats in a week? 19.31.07 # month? 19.31.58 # I' d really like a piano black gigabeat 19.32.28 # 106�63�16mm 19.33.59 # I can't create bookmarks... no mather what setting I have it on... How is it suposed to work? 19.34.21 # there are som many different informations abapout it on rb.org... 19.36.43 # pinkutank: I think it will take a lot longer that a month, so if you need a new player now I would go for something else. 19.39.14 # ipods 104.14x60.96x1.09 19.39.40 # depends on my ability to sell my h120 19.39.54 # I'll probably go for a video ipod tho 19.41.00 Quit muesli_- ("ich will K�he!!!") 19.42.25 Join muesli_- [0] (i=muesli_t@Bc15c.b.pppool.de) 19.43.10 # TiMiD: r u there? 19.43.49 Quit Kohlrabi ("Leaving") 19.47.45 # preglow: now the threaded version works too and i would say quite well :) user doesn't notice any more delays when loading playlist as usual 19.48.11 # And after 5s of inactivity on playlist operations, dircache pointers are updated on background 19.48.13 # ??? 19.48.40 # I didn't know there was a delay in playlist handling? 19.49.01 # amiconn: with dircache enabled, playlist can take a big advantage of that (instant wps for example without any delays) 19.49.42 # amiconn: my new code introduced a delay with very large playlists (for example 5000 entries). It required some cpu power to find the corresponding dircache pointers to the file names 19.49.49 # but now that is done on background 19.50.18 # Hmm, I hope this stuff will still work with dircache disabled 19.50.26 # amiconn: yes, it will 19.50.46 # and with HAVE_DIRCACHE, the new code is completely out on platforms without that feature 19.51.14 # will you commit it soon? :) 19.51.29 # I found enabling Crossfeed and boosting the Replaygain preamp to 9 sounds good 19.51.29 # Hmm, that reminds me I wanted to try dircache on archos, just to see whether it works 19.51.43 # Could be used by people who have the 8MB mod and browse a lot 19.52.33 # Moos: i try to commit today :) 19.52.38 # hey. Crossfade now seems to be less unpredictable 19.52.51 # amiconn: hmm, interesting :) 19.52.55 # in teh last 2 days or so I've noticed it's better 19.53.20 # Slasheri: that sounds really good, I'm unpatient 19.54.45 # preglow, did you come up with the eq 19.54.53 # There are still a number of quirks with voice UI on iriver :( 19.56.06 Join yngwi [0] (n=chatzill@chello080109107064.1.15.vie.surfer.at) 19.56.11 Join tucoz [0] (n=81b17b04@labb.contactor.se) 19.57.38 Part tucoz 19.58.20 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@hornved.ii.uib.no) 19.58.48 Join Sandking [0] (n=jacek@ogorek.akron.net.pl) 19.59.26 # For the danish understanding out there. A little piece on Rockbox: http://ing.dk/article/20050720/WEBLOG/50720002/-1/weblog 20.01.00 Join muesli- [0] (i=muesli_t@Bc15c.b.pppool.de) 20.02.18 # can someone direct me on how to find the crossFEED settings? 20.02.49 # <_FireFly_> general->playback 20.03.05 # hmm it's not there... 20.03.26 # <_FireFly_> which version do you run ?? 20.04.12 Quit NicoFR () 20.04.16 # 051107 - 2337 20.04.31 # <_FireFly_> the menu-point is between replaygain and beep volume in general-settings->playback 20.04.39 Join DangerousDan [0] (n=Miranda@newtpulsifer.campus.luth.se) 20.04.47 # ghode|afk, download the latest daily, or a bleeding edge 20.04.53 # <_FireFly_> ^^ 20.04.54 # what is crossfeed btw? 20.05.08 # Maybe I should make a wiki page about crossfeed :) 20.05.16 # muesli-, it blends the left and right channel in a smart way 20.05.18 # yes :P 20.05.51 # what is that good for? *sorry for dumb question* 20.05.53 # <_FireFly_> muesli-: http://www.naivesoftware.com/software.html 20.05.57 # are there any downsides? 20.06.07 # so that you can listen to e.g. beatles with headphones. I guess it tries to simulate speaker listening 20.06.13 # muesli-: You get less tired from listening to music with your headphones. 20.06.21 # the only downside is the huge volume drop 20.06.22 # <_FireFly_> currently the volume is a bit decreased 20.06.41 # but you can boost it with Replaygain 20.06.55 # <_FireFly_> or simply increase volume ;) 20.07.09 # I found even with teh preamp at 9, it doesn't distort and the volume is close to what iit is without crossfeed 20.07.10 # <_FireFly_> replaygain doesn't do any differently 20.07.12 # does it consume more battery power? 20.07.17 # yes it does _FireFly_ 20.07.32 # <_FireFly_> not realy afaik 20.07.35 # ghode|afk, very little I think. 20.07.43 # I know it does for a fact cos I used replaygainto get the volume back 20.07.44 # ghode|afk: A little, but preglow has another optimization he wants to commit. 20.07.56 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.08.04 # I have Crossfeed enabled and Replaygain preamp set to 9 20.08.06 # Coldtoast: You don't use replaygain normally? 20.09.08 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@84.254.13.2) 20.09.26 # I use replaygain 100% of the time now 20.09.46 # the only stuff I haven't Replaygained yet are tracks I've dump in a Temp dir on my player 20.09.52 # til I organise them 20.10.51 Part tucoz ("Leaving") 20.10.52 # <_FireFly_> replaygain does adjusting the volume not more or less 20.10.53 # btw, is there anyway we can have a link to past cvs commits on the main page? 20.12.05 # pardon? 20.12.31 # replaygain does too affect how loud the final result is 20.12.50 # you have to have replaygain info inteh track tho 20.13.22 # doesn't make any diff if there's no replaygain info 20.14.40 # <_FireFly_> Coldtoast: if you set preamp to 0 and rise the volume about 9 you will get the same result 20.15.38 # heh. no you won't 20.15.59 # try this 20.16.08 # put the volume up to max 20.16.13 # then enable Crossfeed 20.16.16 # big volume drop 20.16.27 # then increase the preamp 20.16.31 # this is theoricly decibels not volume steps 20.16.33 # in Replaygain 20.16.53 # e.g: +9 is +9 decibels 20.16.56 # <_FireFly_> ok but it makes only a kind of volume increasing nothing else 20.16.56 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 20.17.05 # I have to have the volume up close to max cos the gym is SO damn loud 20.17.11 # yeah 20.17.42 # that's what I'm using Replaygain for tho. The volume drop from Crossfeed is enough that I can hear the god awful music they play at the gym 20.18.02 # so I have to increase the preamp in replaygain to be able to drown Celine Dion out again 20.18.19 # and Crossfeed does make things sound a bit nicer I find 20.18.44 # linuxstb: I want to find out what LCD is used in the gigabeat, any idea where to start looking? 20.19.10 # There is some writing on it, but I don't think it will help much: http://img289.imageshack.us/img289/4273/lcd1dw.jpg 20.19.13 # <_FireFly_> Coldtoast: you need the pre-amp because you have your volume set to 100 but if hear normaly at 50 you will get the same result if crossfeed is enabled when you increase the volume to 60 20.19.46 # markun: Two methods: 1) Open a player and examine it; 2) Open the firmware and examine it. 20.19.58 # The firmware upgrade contained an lcd driver as a .o file 20.20.00 # well, yeah 20.20.05 # Well, the picture is the result of method 1 20.20.13 # <_FireFly_> so what i said was right ;) 20.20.34 # markun: The module is called legna-lcd-gb4.o 20.20.46 # did preglow created the eq yet? 20.20.48 # linuxstb: Could I get the file from you? FreeBSD doesn't have romfs.. 20.20.50 Join Cassandra [0] (n=christi@slappy.coraline.org) 20.21.02 # markun: Sure - I'll give you a tgz of the romfs 20.21.12 # ok, great 20.21.20 # <_FireFly_> hi Cassandra 20.21.23 # Heya 20.21.31 # Compiling your fixed patch now. 20.21.34 # well, yeah. but you did also say "(_FireFly_): replaygain does adjusting the volume not more or less" 20.21.35 # <_FireFly_> do you feel better 20.21.38 # What turned out to be the problem? 20.21.42 # Yes thanks. 20.21.49 # Insomnia can be a bitch sometimes. 20.22.08 Quit muesli_- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.22.10 # which, unless it's just the way it translates to English, sounded like you said adjusting the preamp makes no diff to the volume 20.22.31 # or it could be me 20.22.51 # I really need to have a word with whoever did the crossfeed stuff at some point. 20.22.59 # <_FireFly_> maybe i have said it a bit missunderstoodable 20.23.07 # haha 20.23.25 # missunderstoodable? that HAS to be adopted into the next edition of Websters 20.23.28 # Cassandra: Here I am :) 20.23.37 Join arkascha [0] (n=arkascha@xdsl-213-168-118-235.netcologne.de) 20.23.42 Join NicoFR [0] (n=nico404@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 20.24.17 # <_FireFly_> did i say that english isn't my nativ language didn't i ? :) 20.24.32 Quit paugh ("bbl") 20.25.11 # I kind assumed. heh 20.25.38 # http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cyborgsystems/CS_Main/RockBox/RockBox.htm 20.25.44 # did this project ermm die? 20.26.00 # markun: Am I right in thinking it's basically a special case of what we call "stereo width" on Archos? 20.26.19 # <_FireFly_> pinkutank: no 20.27.02 # _FireFly_, looking good. I'll just test the other platforms once more for safety and then we can commit this think, at last. 20.27.13 # (Regression testing - ain't it a bitch.) 20.27.16 # <_FireFly_> Cassandra: k 20.27.43 # <_FireFly_> i had tested it on sim with player and Recorder v2 without problems 20.28.07 Quit muesli- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.28.31 Join Musicmad [0] (n=Musicmad@port547.ds1-oebr.adsl.cybercity.dk) 20.29.00 # sigh, i just updated my build, and now when i tried to change tracks, the track restarts, is there some new setting i;ve missed? 20.29.08 Quit NicoFR () 20.29.29 # oh, I had an issue with the FM Radio 20.29.34 # hi guys - can you help. I trying the easy guide to compiling rb, but I can't seem to find the rbconf file. 20.29.40 # where is that one supposed to be? 20.29.50 # <_FireFly_> rbconf ?? 20.30.13 # the easy guide tells me to run rbconf in the build folder 20.30.42 # It probably means "configure". 20.30.48 # I did an auto scan and named one of the presets. When I skip forward (I think it was forwards) the preset was there but no name and if I skipped back thru presets, it was named. Did it a few times and crashed Rockbox 20.31.02 # <_FireFly_> maybe rbconf is a script be part of the devkit 20.31.24 # _FireFly_: makes senes, but it's nowhere to be found apparently. 20.31.32 # Oh, unless it's one of Bluechip's modifications, in which case I know *nothing*. 20.31.37 # Cassandra: It's like stereo width, but the mixed signal is filtered and delayed. 20.31.37 # preglow: committed 20.31.58 # <_FireFly_> Musicmad: do you use devkit ?? 20.32.09 # To give an echo effect? 20.32.24 # <_FireFly_> no http://www.naivesoftware.com/software.html 20.32.39 # _FireFly_: yes 3.14 20.32.45 # What I was wondering was is there a way you could generalise it so that we could just use it to do stereo width rather than adding a new setting? 20.34.01 # Oh, and as a subsidiary note, why does it reduce the volume? 20.34.08 # <_FireFly_> Musicmad: have you done a make in tools dir ?? 20.35.12 # _FireFly_: I think I found out based on your hint. I should be running inside cygwin of course. 20.35.19 # <_FireFly_> Cassandra: it shouldn't but the used high-pass filter isn't the best version 20.35.27 # <_FireFly_> Musicmad: yepp ;) 20.35.47 # Oh dear. 20.36.14 # _FireFly_: problem was that the page didn't instruct me to run cygwin when getting source from CVS, That was only described when getting source from daily builds. I happily skipped that :) 20.36.17 # Cassandra: I probably didn't implement the filters very well :) I tried a lot of values to get the right sound. 20.37.53 # <_FireFly_> yeah i had played a bit with the two values for the high-pass filer :) 20.38.11 # <_FireFly_> some values produce interresting sounds ;) 20.40.39 # musicmad if you still have problems, I can help 20.40.47 # <_FireFly_> Slasheri: i don't see any problems with your changes in wps.c in conjunction with my wps-widget ;) 20.40.50 # oh shit dinners calling 20.40.55 # pinkutank: I'm happily compiling now - but thanks :) 20.41.03 # enjoy your dinner instead. 20.41.05 # Slasheri: 2 remarks concerning your commit: (1) I hope the wps.c changes don't break the archos playback behaviour. (2) The voice: string in .lang files should *only* be filled in when the string is actually voiced, otherwise the space in the .voice files is wasted 20.41.16 # ok, I had to learn it the hard way, trial and error, bu tI like computers so it was fun 20.41.26 # if it didnt work, I wouldnt be saying it was fun tho 20.41.31 # how hypocrite of me 20.41.42 # oh well, did preglow create the eq? 20.41.49 # I don't see it in the patches page 20.41.58 # amiconn: Oh, i forgot that it could affect archos behaviour :/ 20.42.19 Quit tvelocity (No route to host) 20.42.21 # i will fix the lang file 20.42.27 # The .voice files are quite tight; on archos there's a semi-hard limit of ~1.5MB, and while on iriver we have more RAM, we still don't want to grow it larger than necessary, because takes away buffer space 20.44.57 # amiconn: I think the wps change should not affect archoses because it seems only to refresh the screen 20.45.08 # okay.. 20.45.20 # but please check that if you could :) 20.45.35 # no one knows about the eq? 20.46.19 # been thinking, does ipod has enough buttons for efficient rb operation 20.46.25 # Crap - aren't I about to delete wps.c when I commit the wps-widget? 20.46.26 # and i think it does 20.46.46 # does the ipod video have a nice processor? 20.47.10 # like toshibas arm 400 :D, btw, the gigabeat rb w 20.47.31 # ill probably increase its life alot due to efficient underclocking 20.47.47 # I'm off to dinner 20.47.58 # The ipod video has a PortalPlayer CPU (i.e. two 75Mhz or maybe faster) arm7tdmi cores, plus a video DSP which also has two 75MHz processors. 20.48.21 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@84.254.13.2) 20.48.24 # But the toshibas look much more "hacker-friendly" than the new ipods. 20.48.55 # ? does this mean rb for toshiba more likely than ipod video? 20.49.05 # its only the video chip people have to undercome now 20.49.25 # and the linux team will probably do it in a week or so, they were thinking of it 20.50.55 Join San||Away [0] (n=Test@212.2.176.85) 20.51.07 # pinkutank: It's impossible to predict what will happen. 20.51.23 # i know i know, I'm tryng to hope here 20.51.28 # <_FireFly_> Cassandra: ?? 20.51.32 # of a future with a thin, big screen player 20.51.40 # that can read manga faster than my h120 20.51.42 # :D 20.51.45 # anybody knows if this is possible? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=1850.0 20.51.56 # I thought the wps-widget replaced wps.c and wps-display.c 20.51.57 # If I was you, I would buy a H320 or a color/photo iPod so you can use Rockbox in the near future. Anything else will be a gamble. 20.52.24 # <_FireFly_> Cassandra: no 20.52.31 # Someone needs to buy me an iPod nano. 20.52.32 # h320 has a small screen + cannot be seen without backlight 20.52.32 # Or wait a few weeks and see if the ipodlinux people release anything for the video. 20.52.37 Join muesli_- [0] (i=muesli_t@Bc1e1.b.pppool.de) 20.52.46 # I cant sell my h120 in a week anyway, we'll see 20.53.01 # pinkutank: All colour LCDs need a backlight. The ipod is the same - invisible without the backlight. 20.53.05 # btw, is there any movement toward a more g gui 20.53.19 # I thought I pod video has a reflective one, 20.53.30 # Sorry, I don't know about the ipod video. 20.53.30 # Musicmad: Sure, in fact I wanted to implement that for quite a while, just never got around doing it 20.53.48 # <_FireFly_> Cassandra: but all references about these two files are replaced with the new one or removed 20.53.55 # pinkutank: You seem to have decided on the ipod video already :) 20.54.16 # not really, but leaning towards it due to screen 20.54.28 # although i dont like ipods much 20.54.36 # <_FireFly_> Cassandra: so the code includes gwps.h and compiles gwps.c and gwps-common.c 20.54.41 # wouldnt go for it if it wasnt for the improved audio chipset like the shuffles 20.54.45 # well Im off for dinner 20.54.52 # So if Slasheri has patched wps.c, then it won't have any effect, surely? 20.55.06 # Not that I can see a commited patch to wps.c 20.55.30 # amiconn: sounds great! 20.55.32 # Cassandra: http://www.rockbox.org/cvsmod/chlog-2005-11-17%2019:32:15.html 20.55.44 # It's a very recent commit, and not on the home page yet. 20.55.50 # <_FireFly_> Cassandra: yes 20.55.59 # amiconn: I'll by pizza for you tonight then. 20.56.20 # <_FireFly_> Cassandra: if you don't delete these two files explicitly 20.57.01 Join webguest90 [0] (n=d9b857e9@labb.contactor.se) 20.57.01 # Erm, surely I *should* delete them, if the code in them isn't being used any more? 20.57.40 # <_FireFly_> Cassandra: gwps.c:338 and 396 these are the two lines which has Slasheri changes 20.57.53 # <_FireFly_> in wps.c 20.57.59 # OK - I'll just fix up gwps.c then? 20.58.07 # <_FireFly_> yepp 20.58.30 # <_FireFly_> 338 and 396 are the lines 20.58.58 # <_FireFly_> 338 to 331 and 396 to 389 21.00.09 # OK - no-one change anything for a moment. 21.00.17 # What's your real name, firefly? 21.00.19 Quit webguest90 (Client Quit) 21.00.22 Join muesli- [0] (i=muesli_t@Bc0a2.b.pppool.de) 21.00.24 # <_FireFly_> Stephan Wezel 21.00.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.00.48 # Oh, you're already in the CREDITS. 21.01.07 # <_FireFly_> ;) 21.02.20 # <_FireFly_> the power-adapter-wps-patch was from me :) 21.02.29 # *nods* 21.02.40 # <_FireFly_> and a small fix for the automatic shutdown 21.03.02 # <_FireFly_> which was broken after an cvs commit 21.03.04 # * Cassandra just does a quick sanity check that it builds without wps(-display).(c|h) 21.04.02 # Can anyone tell me what key combinations are missing from the WPS table here: 21.04.03 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ButtonAssignments 21.04.14 Quit muesli_- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.04.22 # Shouldn't there be quick-menu and context-menu as well? 21.05.11 # <_FireFly_> yepp 21.05.23 # OK, I've found this page as well: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/KeymapIriverHSeries 21.05.54 # Looks like 18 actions you can do on the WPS screen with different button combinations.... 21.06.31 # With some duplicates - so 16 unique actions. 21.06.49 # * Cassandra contemplates hitting cvs with a big hammer. 21.07.18 # <_FireFly_> linuxstb: long press play for context-menu is worng it is long-press navi/menu 21.07.28 # <_FireFly_> in wps 21.08.00 # <_FireFly_> ups nothing is wrong 21.08.19 # I didn't write that page - I just added the ipod row at the bottom. 21.08.20 # <_FireFly_> it is only missing 21.08.36 # But now I realise that that table is the simple version... 21.09.14 # <_FireFly_> yeah both tables missing some entrys which is on the other table 21.09.23 Join Acksaw [0] (i=Acksaw@spc1-stok5-4-0-cust5.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) 21.09.25 # jeu 21.09.26 # hey* 21.10.40 # <_FireFly_> linuxstb: it would be good to put both tables together wouldn't be ?? 21.13.21 # No, says cvs, you must update your copy of wps.c *then* delete it. 21.13.29 # * Cassandra facepalms. 21.13.38 # I can see why it's doing it, but ... 21.15.02 # any ideas when the first rockbox will be available for download now the bootloader is complete? 21.15.33 # In a while 21.15.36 # (TM) 21.15.44 # lol 21.15.49 # Right, commited. And I probably should be too. 21.15.51 # few days, weeks? 21.15.56 # Yes. 21.16.10 # which one? 21.16.17 # Sorry for the unhelpful answers, but we really can't say. 21.16.20 # ok 21.16.30 # any time suits me as long as its soon ;) 21.16.39 # nice to see alot has been done tho 21.16.42 # great work 21.16.47 # Sooner rather than later, I expect, but we promise nothing. 21.16.52 # acks are you talkin about the pod 21.17.16 # probably, doesnt matter 21.17.16 # h300 21.17.19 Join gromit` [0] (n=gromit`@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 21.17.20 # oh 21.17.51 # Slasheri - I think I just broke your last commit. 21.18.21 # Oh, maybe not, actually. 21.18.43 # No, it's fine. 21.18.52 # <_FireFly_> Cassandra: gwps.ch and gwps-common.ch are missing 21.19.02 # _FireFly_, oops. 21.19.24 # <_FireFly_> ;) 21.19.37 # Slasheri: great, i'll try it soon 21.19.54 # pinkutank: no, it's not done yet, and probably wont be for a while, i've suddenly got other things to do 21.20.14 # ok, just wanted to ask 21.20.24 # you guys having an intense time of commitment there :) 21.21.19 # I'll pick it up in some hours and recompile 21.22.19 Join Guest70021 [0] (n=a@cpc1-asht1-3-0-cust160.manc.cable.ntl.com) 21.22.22 # anybody knows how easy a level meter on the recording screen would be to implement? 21.22.41 # would kick some serious a** 21.22.50 # hmm 21.22.56 # I think it shouldnt be hard 21.22.59 # Musicmad: i already had it implemented some time ago.. 21.23.14 # i can add it to cvs when i have time enough 21.23.16 # just use the one used in the wps as monitor there 21.23.30 # If you want it I can patch one for you musicmad 21.23.34 # if its in the patches 21.23.51 # Badger needs to commit his updated wpsbuild.pl now. 21.25.52 Quit Acksaw () 21.25.53 # Why do people keep asking us to make the bootloader boot the iRiver firmware by default? 21.26.45 # <_FireFly_> yeah 21.27.02 # i think that o ne answers itself 21.27.08 # heh. make the hold switch select the firmware instead :) 21.27.15 # Slasheri: would be great. 21.27.34 # pinkutank: would like to have go at patching myself. Do you know where I can search for a patch? 21.28.08 # I thought slasheri created a patch 21.28.13 # but didnt commit 21.28.16 # was I wrong 21.28.27 # pinkutank: yes, long time ago. But currently it's not in working state 21.28.32 # I would need to fix it.. 21.28.40 # is Xavier still working on his remote LCD stuff? 21.28.51 # <_FireFly_> no afaik 21.29.07 # <_FireFly_> currently TiMiD and i working mostly on it 21.29.24 # <_FireFly_> and just is my wps-widget commited to cvs 21.29.33 # you going to add support for remote LCD wps? 21.29.47 # Yes, thanks for that, firefly. A nice bit of work. 21.30.10 # <_FireFly_> not going to now rb has remote-wps support in cvs ;) 21.30.18 # ah cool 21.30.21 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 21.31.18 # Slasheri: I look forward to the feature whenever you get around to have a look at it. 21.31.45 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp12-adsl-80.ath.forthnet.gr) 21.32.00 # This means I now have to design a .rwps for boxes. Curse you firefly! 21.32.12 # Hold on, I just made more work for myself, didn't I? Arse. 21.32.17 # wow cool wps for remote at last 21.32.26 # it'll be cool when there's no lag with he peak meter so it's synced with the audio 21.32.41 # any update on the H300? 21.33.14 # blah who uses peak meters in playback 21.33.23 # <_FireFly_> the only thing which doesn't work on the remote is the peakmeter 21.33.24 # me 21.33.24 # peak meters are only isefull in recording IMHO 21.33.32 # <_FireFly_> currently 21.33.33 # they look nice 21.33.40 # they add life and movement to a wps 21.33.47 # _FireFly_: oh, really? i will try out :) 21.33.53 # I've never been much of a fan myself. 21.34.06 # But then I think the Rockbox peakmeter is kind of ugly. 21.34.14 # I agree 21.34.17 # but it's there 21.34.23 # <_FireFly_> Slasheri: it won't work because i havn't updated it to work with screen-access ;) 21.34.23 # It's about the only thing iRiver do better. 21.34.26 Join BirdFish [0] (n=bradbox8@64.108.5.134) 21.34.29 # ah :D 21.34.48 # hehe, at least cvs update deleted the wps.c :) 21.35.12 # <_FireFly_> not needed anymore :) 21.35.29 # Oh, firefly, any updates need to be made to the WPS documentation on the wiki, btw? 21.35.30 # is there a default remote wps? 21.35.45 # <_FireFly_> Coldtoast: yepp 21.36.04 # <_FireFly_> Cassandra: not that i know 21.36.19 # cool. I'll get the latest bleeding edge in a bit 21.36.25 # The file isn't copied over because the build script isn't updated for .rwps support yet. 21.36.50 # <_FireFly_> if hadn't used my patch before he will get the default wps 21.36.54 # But you can copy rockbox_default.wps to rockbox_default.rwps and things will just work. 21.37.06 # <_FireFly_> without loading the dummy file 21.37.17 # This is true, but he may want to get back to the original afterwards. ;) 21.37.32 # the Ipod will be interesting I reckon. Ppl do seem to love that even-a-retarded-monkey-could-use-it interface 21.38.52 # <_FireFly_> Cassandra: yes he needs the dummy-file if he had loaded a other .rwps file before and now wants to get back :) 21.39.56 # Slasheri: seems like it works well 21.40.12 # Slasheri: this combined with dircache is really killer 21.40.25 # Slasheri: i accidentally had dircache disabled the other day, i can't believe how i survived living without it 21.40.38 # <_FireFly_> *g* 21.41.06 # dircache is the shit. No doubt. 21.41.24 # <_FireFly_> Musicmad: why ?? 21.41.25 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 21.41.33 # what's REALLY cool is I was getting annoyed with how slow Rockbox was when you wnated to browse the filetree. I check the latest bleeding edge and dircache was implemented 21.41.46 # _FireFly_: "the shit" as in "really good" 21.41.56 # <_FireFly_> oh 21.42.02 # the day it was annoying me in poarticular, you guys had implemented it 21.42.36 # Wow - directory cache *is* cool. Didn't know that'd gone in. 21.42.37 # you mean "teh shiznit" 21.42.44 # lol 21.42.56 # Shame it slows down boot up. 21.43.04 # <_FireFly_> only the first boot 21.43.05 # only the first time Cassandra 21.43.12 # dircache eats memory tho right? 21.43.18 # <_FireFly_> or if transparent caching fails 21.43.29 # meaning it would be killing the looka t jpegs while listening :) 21.43.29 # I like the status message though. We should do a few more of those. 21.43.31 # <_FireFly_> pinkutank: yepp but not much afaik 21.43.56 # With 32mb, you can afford to throw away a couple of MB on things like dircache. 21.44.05 # btw, you said this combined with dircache, what was the "this" you were talking of 21.44.07 # oh lol 21.44.13 # I think dircache is very worth sacrificing some mem 21.44.21 # I dont have +1mb jpegs anyway 21.44.24 # Surely it'll have to rescan every time you change the disk though. 21.44.37 # \you won't notice Cassandra 21.44.38 # <_FireFly_> yepp but mostly in background 21.45.01 # I dump stuff on mine constantly and it doesn't re-scan when I boot 21.45.03 # I forgot the 32 chache 21.45.11 # so its in the bleeding edge build now 21.45.26 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.45.34 # well, doesn't blatantly do it so I notice. heh 21.47.35 Quit jelle-k ("Dag enzo") 21.48.20 # preglow: hehe, nice :) 21.48.52 Join stinkbud [0] (n=me@pool-162-83-148-160.ny5030.east.verizon.net) 21.49.06 Quit muesli- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.49.13 # thanks you guys for all the h300 work guys 21.49.26 # roll on the bootloader! 21.49.54 # linus is the guy you want to thank. 21.50.07 # linus, you da man 21.50.29 # but thank you everyone involved. This is faster than I ever hoped. 21.50.32 # We need a faster Rockbox build host. 21.50.37 Nick linuxstb__ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 21.50.46 # I am surprised to see efforts on an ipod port 21.50.46 # It's taking about 20 minutes to build with all these platforms. 21.50.59 # People work on what interests them. 21.51.05 # true that 21.51.08 Quit Sandking () 21.51.21 # will the ipod port support all the crazy ipod atachments that are out there? 21.51.33 # Unlikely. 21.51.37 # But not impossible. 21.51.37 # Possible. 21.51.48 Quit San||Away () 21.51.55 # interesting 21.52.01 # <_FireFly_> i think it depends if the atachements needs special handling of the firmware or not 21.52.11 # now finally there is a reason to consider an ipod 21.52.25 # I love my h320 but apple has it beat on form factor 21.52.53 # * Cassandra ponders getting an iPod Nano for Christmas (in the New Year, when they're cheaper.) 21.53.32 # i am a total noob when rockbox is concerned, so bear with any stupid questions 21.53.55 # color ipods, they would support video with rockbox? 21.54.16 # Probably, but Rockbox video is a bit of a hack. 21.54.22 # i see the black and white rockbox has video support 21.54.25 # And it'd need updating to support colour screens. 21.54.27 # Yes 21.54.38 # amazing 21.54.45 # b&w video is uncompressed, and the archos screen is tiny 21.55.01 # Uncompressed video is out of question for colour lcd 21.55.19 # Can't imagine the iPod Nano has a very large screen though. 21.55.20 # hehe 21.55.29 # The ipodlinux video player uses uncompressed video and uncompressed PCM audio. But 2GB (the FAT32 limit) gives you about 15 minutes playback. 21.55.35 # rockbox for iriver supports rockbox video? oO 21.55.36 # it will be very interesting to see if the "anti ipod" crowd will start to switch once ipod is successfully portd 21.55.43 # btw, building a simulator, where do i put the .rockbox directory, it says no .rockbox dir 21.55.49 # So in order to bring video to these, someone really interested has to start working on porting and optimising video codecs 21.55.53 # I would stinkbud 21.56.05 # linuxstb: ! 21.56.05 # but only to the ones with shuffles audio chipset 21.56.09 # i may too 21.56.09 # amiconn: "codecs" - that's optimistic :) 21.56.09 # pinkutank, in the archos/ dir. Just do a "make install" and it will do it for you. 21.56.30 # and as far as itunes....compatible with rockbox? 21.56.41 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.56.41 # make install in which dir 21.56.47 # Nope, but someone may make efforts in that direction. 21.56.57 # Your simulator build dir. 21.57.20 # Personally I couldn't give a fig. I have no desire to use Apple's crappy DRM. 21.57.40 # stinkbud: The reason for Rockbox is to free users from itunes. 21.57.53 # :) 21.57.54 # <_FireFly_> pinkutank: build-dir of the sim 21.57.56 # why itunes 21.58.09 # the Sony DRM owns though Cassandra :) 21.58.15 # If you want an ipod that syncs with itunes and plays back only files supported by itunes, then stick with the Apple firmware. 21.58.52 # We don't talk about Sony. I'd boycott them, if I wasn't already boycotting them for being shit, and boycotting any DRMed music anyway. 21.59.03 # Erm, copy protected music, I mean. 21.59.12 # well, iTunes are ripping people off 21.59.14 # i would imagine that you would have more leeway as far as backing up ipod tunes as well\ 21.59.27 # I know that is annoying 21.59.40 # why youd want itunes? 21.59.51 # I don't consider 99p a tune unreasonable. 21.59.52 # true 21.59.52 # stinkbud: You can copy music back from an ipod to a PC just using Windows Explorer. 22.00.10 # such syncing is kidsplay jsut wih an autoplay.inf 22.00.14 # <^BeN^> mmmm, wtf is WPS? 22.00.16 # But (a) I usually buy albums and (b) once I've paid my 99p it's not up to Apple where I listen to it. 22.00.19 # cassandra 22.00.19 # Cassandra: If you accidentally delete the file, you have to buy it again. 22.00.26 # i think its not reasonable 22.00.33 # you can buy cds for 5-6$ 22.00.42 # I rather own the original media 22.00.46 # and rip from it 22.00.51 # <_FireFly_> ^BeN^: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS 22.00.59 # Yeah, well sometimes I just want one track. 22.01.01 # <^BeN^> 10q 22.01.02 # <_FireFly_> ^BeN^: wps = while-playing-screen 22.01.08 # Albums are like bulk buying, you see. :) 22.01.12 # rockbox for iriver supports rockbox video? oO 22.01.33 # AFAIK, although no-one's bothered recoding it for the iRiver screen. 22.01.35 # <^BeN^> cool =] 10x 22.01.39 # well, bying 5 albums with itunes will cost you 60 or more 22.01.57 # where 5 cds will cost 50 22.01.59 # k 22.02.12 # I meant 30 22.02.17 # I don't really understand what all the fuss about video is anyway. I don't really see it as anything other than a cool toy. 22.02.23 # so you can buy another 5 for the single track 22.02.34 # Cassandra: it is a cool toy.. that's it.. 22.02.35 # :x 22.02.37 # <_FireFly_> pinkutank: yepp itunes and co are only cheaper if you only want special tracks of a album 22.02.57 # Still cheaper than CD singles. 22.03.06 # resume after stop doesn't work anymore.. 22.03.06 # Does anyone still buy those? 22.03.14 # <_FireFly_> me not :) 22.03.15 # bah, hate drm 22.03.19 # I ll buy 5 cds 22.03.20 # check this story out 22.03.23 # and download the singles 22.03.27 # http://www.creativecomponent.com/2005/11/14/music-selling-delimma-itunes 22.03.29 # Works for me, markun. 22.03.44 # Cassandra: I just updated. Strange. 22.03.46 # if that's true, I'm not sure I want to buy ANYTHING off of itunes 22.03.48 Join paugh [0] (n=kickback@2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:8000:0:3e03:6822) 22.04.21 # I also have the unicode patch applied, but don't think that has anything to do with it. 22.04.26 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-121-41.VIC.netspace.net.au) 22.04.42 # too bad DRM10 isn't as easy to strip as DRM9 btw. 22.05.11 Join joshn [0] (n=kvirc@ool-182d4545.dyn.optonline.net) 22.07.17 # <_FireFly_> markun it works for me too 22.07.30 # lol 22.07.34 # i read the article 22.07.48 # the whole point of drm was so the artists dont lose money 22.07.54 # Musicmad: that was inevitable. it's too easy to build decent encryption when you're dealing with black boxes. 22.07.58 # I smell monopoly of distribution 22.08.08 # pinkutank: no, it's so that labels don't lose money. i doubt it affects the artists 22.08.13 # if it's true, it sucks 22.08.28 # small scale artists get paid per cd 22.08.47 # small scale artists don't usually get paid. 22.08.47 # pinkutank: most artist does that actually. 22.09.14 # well, I'm not in the economical situation to buy cds in my country 22.09.14 # nice english there mm. 22.09.21 # The music business really does rip off its talent something chronic. 22.09.25 # pinkutank: where do you live? 22.09.29 # theyre 15$ a pop 22.09.31 # Turkey 22.09.37 # 15? 22.09.38 # hah 22.09.42 # cheap compared to norway 22.09.43 # bedtime 22.09.44 # sometimes more 22.09.47 # 15-25 22.09.49 Quit Coldtoast ("Peace and Protection 4.22") 22.09.50 # cheap compared to Denmark too 22.09.53 # but in norway 22.09.59 # you get 10x our wages 22.10.03 # pinkutank: they can easily be 25$ here 22.10.03 # literally 10 22.10.15 # pinkutank: probably, don't know anything about that 22.10.21 # i do know our wages are high 22.10.30 # * ashridah waits for the day when he can get a quantum computer to fit on his desk 22.10.31 # my father goes to norway alot 22.10.35 # im pretty sure 22.10.35 # drm's going to go down that day :) 22.10.37 # wages here 22.10.40 # are usually 22.10.45 # 330$ 22.10.52 # My sister was bitten by a moose once. 22.11.01 # Cassandra: haha, she's lucky she even saw one 22.11.14 # its the nominal, yet most given wage, unless you are managing or doing something ordinary, you get 330$ 22.11.15 # Cassandra: my english grandfather's been wanting to see one for his entire life, he hasn't yet 22.11.32 # preglow, well, it's not actually true. It's a Monty Python reference. 22.11.36 # Fear my geekiness. 22.11.49 # Cassandra: oh? can't remember it :/ 22.12.05 # From holy grail, I think. 22.12.16 # thats monthly 22.12.17 # right, been a a couple of years since i saw that one last 22.12.25 # They might not have included the fake Norwegian subtitles in the Benelux releases. 22.12.26 # pinkutank: yes, then we do indeed have tons higher wages 22.12.39 # Cassandra: mine's english 22.12.49 # norway is nice 22.12.53 # I rather liek the climate 22.12.55 # Fair enough. 22.13.36 # yeah, i like the climate myself 22.13.42 # I wanted to go to nordens fotoskola in sweden, but I thought it was english that was why, it turns out it is swedish 22.13.43 # would have been nice with some snow, though 22.13.55 # but no luck there yet 22.13.59 # I really want to live in such a country 22.14.21 # isolated but not derelict 22.16.29 # preglow: do you know how the skiing is when you live in stavanger? 22.17.07 # my father was a cross country skier 22.17.33 # met one your kings if I remember right, but I dont remember which country it was, could be swe 22.17.35 # TiMiD? 22.17.54 # Musicmad: decent 22.18.16 Join webguest45 [0] (n=80dc26fe@labb.contactor.se) 22.18.26 # hey everyone, I don't know if this is a known bug or not 22.18.26 # excellent - I'm going for a week in january og early february - any recommendations? 22.18.38 # but the boxes and engineer2 wps's on the latest build do not work 22.18.56 # i think its the BMPs, change them to bmp 22.19.19 # rockbox crashes with the WPS code on the remote screen, and a blank screen on the main player 22.19.25 # Musicmad: none at all, i've never actually been there myself 22.19.45 # wait, change the filename of the bmp's from *.BMP to *.bmp, or within the wps file? 22.20.01 # <_FireFly_> yepp the files 22.20.09 # preglow: ok - thanks anyway 22.20.28 # webguest45, works fine for me. 22.21.24 # hmm... all the files within the directory ARE named *.bmp, not *.BMP... 22.22.00 # hmm 22.22.05 # check the patch page 22.22.15 # it might have to do with the news wps.c 22.22.53 # yeah, i actually JUST upgraded to the bleeding edge because I saw that the remote WPS is finally in the official build 22.23.04 # I've been too lazy to actually build in the patch :-p 22.23.48 Join CyberD [0] (n=liranvak@DSL217-132-189-109.bb.netvision.net.il) 22.24.07 # rockbox for iriver h300 is out? 22.24.12 # no 22.24.35 # when he should be redy? 22.24.48 # soon 22.24.55 # when it is ready 22.24.59 # CyberD: bootloader, hopefully in a few days. the actual firmware might take a bit of work, i suspect 22.25.09 # ^ 22.25.30 # ermmm shouldnt the menu showin in the simulator, i compiled a simualtor from dailyb, its not showing anything :) 22.25.45 # only the statusbar 22.26.00 # <_FireFly_> press ins to get int menu 22.26.31 # <_FireFly_> you must place some files into the dir archos to have some content in filetree :) 22.26.35 # hmmm... my wps problem is really weird... I just tried loading the boxes wps just then through the settings menu, it crashed again with the WPS code showing on the remote, and a blank screen on the main unit 22.26.46 # Someone change the topic to "No-one knows when H300/iPod will be ready", please. 22.26.50 # the hard drive also clicked off almost immediately 22.27.04 # firefly:oh I forgot, thanks hehe 22.27.18 # webguest45, file corruption? Try deleting your .rockbox dir and re-installing. 22.27.46 # it's a brand new extract, just did it less than 20 min ago 22.28.35 # then redownload 22.28.38 # Could still be a corrupt file. I can't think of anything else that might cause that. 22.29.03 Quit CyberD () 22.29.13 # okie, trying a redownload/reextract, although considering it's a zip archive, a corruption would be unextractable... 22.29.28 # strangely, the ipodVOL wps works fine... 22.29.44 # just boxes and engineer2 22.30.00 # <_FireFly_> check your drive 22.30.07 # <_FireFly_> with scandisk or similar 22.31.15 # someone need to update the custom wps wiki 22.32.21 # does anyone have the link to the new kind of wps configs page 22.32.46 # hmmm... very strange, clean extract dies with the same problem, blank screen on unit, no backlight, hard drive clicks off 22.32.46 # <_FireFly_> oh right a short note that now remote-wps exists for iriver should be added 22.33.12 # <_FireFly_> webguest45: please check your drive with scandisk or similar programs 22.33.18 # firefly 22.33.23 # yeah, doing so right now 22.33.26 # iwas tralking about the new way of adding bmps 22.35.30 Quit arkascha (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.36.05 # hmmm... this is problematic... seems that my disk is going on the fritz, lots of IO errors 22.36.26 # http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2005-11/0170.shtml 22.36.34 # is this committed yet 22.36.52 # yes 22.37.00 # yes to who 22.37.06 # that was comitted 22.37.54 # but it doesnt work ? 22.38.31 # its probably my wpss fault 22.38.44 # i know it was working, perhaps a recent commit changed that or a wps fault 22.38.50 # I'll recheck 22.39.13 Join webguest27 [0] (n=507e7b1e@labb.contactor.se) 22.39.37 # <_FireFly_> the dir for the images must have the same name as the filename without the .wps .rwps extension 22.39.55 # <_FireFly_> in the wps-file you need only give the filename to load 22.40.05 Quit tvelocity (Remote closed the connection) 22.40.15 # thats what i did 22.40.39 # <_FireFly_> have you made the bitmap yourself ?? 22.40.59 # <_FireFly_> the bitmaps must be monochrome (1bit) 22.41.23 # linuxstb: what does the cop currently do in ipl? 22.42.07 Quit webguest27 (Client Quit) 22.42.58 # yes they should be, letme check again tho 22.44.12 Quit Musicmad ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 22.44.43 # the battery estimated calculations are way off below 40% level 22.45.11 # XavierGr: the estimate is a wild guess 22.45.13 # so no wonder 22.45.22 # if my plugin doesn't affect battery time we could make them better. 22.45.57 # What is calculated ETA or % level? 22.46.14 # It seems that the ETA comes from the % level, no 22.46.46 # because they have the same spots in my graphs 22.47.00 Quit DangerousDan (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.47.14 # so I guess that one of the 2 is calculated then the other is extracted from the first. 22.47.16 # XavierGr: we can't make it better without complicating it wildly 22.47.26 # XavierGr: the guess depends on battery type, usage pattern, codec type, etc 22.48.24 # anyway my second test (same, with out the plugin) is almost over and seems that there is no extra battery usage with my plugin. 22.48.30 # I will now in 1 hour 22.49.04 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-130-079.pools.arcor-ip.net) 22.49.07 # if not then this will make a handy utility for all those that like to test their battery every once in a while. 22.49.57 # sure 22.50.03 # i don't think your plugin uses much battery now 22.50.20 # Well until now the data agree on that. 22.50.29 # but lets wait until the player dies again. 22.51.04 # also now I thought of something more good for my plugin 22.51.29 # currently the plugin will log every time the disk spins. But it will log current status of the battery. 22.51.33 Quit webguest45 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 22.52.13 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@84.254.13.2) 22.52.18 # it would be more good to keep in memory level, and voltage changes and then when the disk spins write all the data in the log. What do you think? 22.52.31 # will this make it more battery hungry? 22.52.57 Quit stinkbud () 22.53.12 # which plugin 22.53.17 # the battery tester? 22.54.29 # battery benchmark 22.54.33 # not yet in cvs 22.54.43 # there is a patch on the tracker 22.54.53 # but I need to update it with latest changes 22.55.31 # <_FireFly_> Slasheri: ? 22.55.47 # Bah, sourceforge is being crappy. 22.56.40 # And why oh why does my monitor keep thinking my graphics card aspect ratio is 4:3? 22.56.46 # does sourceforge _ever_ work these days? 22.57.09 # Guess it's worth every penny we pay for it. 22.57.13 # i think I'll create a wps sometime soon 22.57.18 # <_FireFly_> sf gets slow in the evening 22.57.22 # does bmps affect battery lfie alot? 22.57.25 # All the cool kids are doing it. 22.57.31 # I thoutght as long as theyre static 22.57.33 # sf is always slow 22.57.46 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@hornved.ii.uib.no) 22.57.46 # and has been so for years 22.58.10 # send me your patches, I'll put them on my server 22.58.11 # <_FireFly_> Bagder: not at all at 8:00am(MET) it is faster then now ;) 22.58.12 # Heya Bagder - hows rwps support for wpsbuild coming? 22.58.20 # you can link in sf 22.58.23 # they've updated the web interface a bit tho. looks slightly nicer, a little easier to read. still slow tho :) 22.58.30 # so it will save them bandwith 22.58.36 # I've thought of another complication for you. 22.58.41 # ; will work faster 22.58.42 # yes, their new interface is indeed better 22.58.56 # Cassandra: noooo :-) 22.59.03 # It'd be nice to be able to make WPSes available to fit multiple targets. 22.59.25 # So the correct one for your target gets copied onto the player. 22.59.37 # Weird bug report 23.00.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.00.34 # I play the last song in a directory for a few seconds, press pause, press left to play the song from the beginning, press play and it doesn't play 23.00.43 # So I could do a version of boxes for the recorder and H300 as well, for example. 23.00.52 # Cassandra: well, that's kind of what I thought the size thing would cause 23.01.03 # I'm thinking of a depth requirement as well 23.01.14 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.01.20 # I use the ipod lookalike wps, and I see the play icon change from pause to playing, but the time counter is not ticking. 23.01.21 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 23.01.23 # You must be *this* profound to be a Rockbox WPS. 23.02.37 # This is for iriver, and it is mp3's. I tried a .ogg album, and that worked fine. 23.03.43 # Is this reproducable for anyone else? 23.05.48 # tucoz, I can't reproduce it here. 23.06.04 # Cassandra, ah. Ok, might be some setting that I have then 23.06.22 Join sepulveda [0] (n=507e7b1e@labb.contactor.se) 23.06.55 Join _user_ [0] (n=c762142c@labb.contactor.se) 23.07.36 # cause it it totally reproducable here. Well, might be my build tools or something. 23.07.39 Join Sandoaway [0] (i=lolsteam@144.135.255.155) 23.07.43 # see you, bye 23.07.45 Part tucoz ("Leaving") 23.08.13 Quit Sando (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.08.25 # <_user_> phaedrus961: unicode patch doesnt seem to be working on the latest cvs 23.10.01 # I *really* dislike how the headers were removed in the removal of the wps files 23.10.01 # <_FireFly_> _user_: tires the patch to patch wps(-display).c/.h ?? 23.10.19 # <_FireFly_> ?? 23.10.19 Quit sepulveda (Client Quit) 23.10.22 # <_user_> _FireFly_: what do you mean? 23.10.40 # _FireFly_: your new files are based on the old ones and thus the old copyrights MUST remain 23.10.50 # they are now gone 23.10.57 # <_FireFly_> ouch 23.11.04 # <_FireFly_> sorry 23.11.08 # im away 23.11.40 # _user_: Maybe you should start using CVS and compile rockbox. It's easyer to keep unicode working that way.. 23.12.40 # <_user_> i do that 23.13.08 # <_user_> i've been downloading directly from cvs and compile in cygwin 23.13.23 Quit DMJC-sleep (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.14.05 # If you use 'cvs update' and resolve the (usually trivial) conflicts the unicode patch will keep working. 23.14.41 # <_user_> "cvs update" as in, 23.14.42 # <_user_> cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@rockbox.haxx.se:/cvsroot/rockbox co rockbox 23.14.43 # <_user_> this? 23.14.48 # no 23.15.03 # <_user_> oh.. 23.15.17 # go to the rockbox dir and type 'cvs update -dPA' for example. 23.15.32 # I'm not happy with this new code 23.16.05 # It will only update the files that have changed and tries to keep your own changes in.. 23.16.38 # <_user_> so basically what i can do is 23.17.00 # <_user_> go back to some old version, apply the unicode patch, and do cvs update? 23.17.01 # Dammit - how do I make files I've already added to the repository into binary files? 23.17.13 # (I thought CVS handled that automatically.) 23.17.24 Join DMJC [0] (n=DMJC-L@60-240-222-122.tpgi.com.au) 23.17.44 # _user_: exactly. If it says there are conflicts, then the edit the files and look for '>>>>>>' 23.18.03 # <_user_> i see 23.18.09 # <_user_> im going to try that 23.18.46 # Good luck. Just ask if it doesn't work. I guess almost everybody here works with cvs this way. 23.18.50 # btw, any reason tools/ still doesn't get make run on it from the main makefile? 23.19.22 # anybody under windows using something like http://www.tortoisecvs.org/ i.s.o. commandline cvs? 23.19.24 # preglow: I included it in the main makefile, but then it gets compiled with the cross compiler.. 23.19.28 # preglow: yes, because we don't properly sort out and set variables for both the native and the cross compilers 23.20.52 # does anyone know what cpu an H10 uses? 23.20.59 # XavierGr: portalplayer 23.21.09 # Mhz? 23.21.17 # 80Mhz x 2 23.21.22 # I mean is that better than H100 or H300? 23.21.28 # define better 23.21.31 # then probably it is? 23.21.47 # well I guess that using the 2 simultanesly will be strange 23.22.29 # _FireFly_: if you fix the missing file headers, can you also please make the code < 80 cols 23.22.43 # as our guidelines say 23.22.56 # <_user_> this is weird 23.23.17 # <_user_> the unicode patch seems to fail even on 11/03 source 23.23.18 # <_FireFly_> Bagder: np 23.23.21 # _FireFly_ doesn't have commit access. 23.23.30 # <_user_> maybe the unicode patch is "too new"? 23.23.42 # preglow isnt the same as the iPod then? 23.23.45 # Bagder: you know why the CVS table does'nt show the last builds? 23.23.52 # Bloody hell, it's half ten. 23.23.56 Join Creatine [0] (n=Spiffy_V@c-67-164-200-164.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) 23.24.11 # <_FireFly_> Bagder: the old wps-code has some lines which are longer then 80 23.24.32 # _user_: too bad sourceforge is offline. I wanted to look up the date the patch was updated. 23.25.05 # _FireFly_: I bet your version has lots more of them since so many lines got... eh, overly complex 23.25.21 # gwps->display->define_pattern(gwps->data->wps_progress_pat[lcd_char_pos+1],player_progressbar); 23.25.27 # I mean wow 23.25.39 # takes 5 minutes to decrypt 23.25.47 # preglow: I remember that you said that iPod has 2 * 75 Mhz ARM proccessors. Will that make a greater performance that current H100 proccessor? 23.25.55 # Gotta love indirection. 23.26.11 # preglow: I think the cop is used in IPL to control the DAC. The decoder runs on the main CPU, filling up a ringbuffer in IRAM, and a FIQ interrupt runs on the COP to send data to the DAC. 23.26.22 # <_user_> markun: either 8th or 3rd 23.26.26 # That's my understanding anyway. 23.26.55 # I need 'cvs add -kb' to commit binary files, right? 23.27.08 # well, after phaedrus updates the patch you can start using cvs the normal way :) 23.27.14 Quit yngwi ("Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.7/20050919]") 23.27.20 Join webguest61 [0] (n=80dc26fe@labb.contactor.se) 23.27.21 # <_user_> 13th actually 23.27.32 # hey everyone, I'm the guy with the WPS problem... 23.27.43 # I just reformatted my player, wps still doing the same thin 23.28.00 # XavierGr: perhaps 23.28.17 # linuxstb: i'm just having a ball finding out how this interrupt stuff is working 23.28.34 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=5343d4aa@labb.contactor.se) 23.28.39 # Glad you're enjoying it. 23.28.45 # <_user_> yeah i guess i will have to wait 23.31.48 # that's odd... engineer2 fails with the backlight on, boxes fails with the backlight off 23.32.00 # fsck check turned up nothing, since I JUST reformatted it 23.33.35 # It's certainly very odd, webguest61, but yours is the only report we've had and none of us can duplicate it. 23.33.39 Join Inferno [0] (n=philguy8@cpc3-sout1-4-0-cust110.sot3.cable.ntl.com) 23.33.40 # amiconn: yes I'm here 23.33.46 # Hi all 23.34.14 # are you guys storing the settings in some low-level boot sector or something? because I just noticed that none of my settings changed, even though I just reformatted the whole thing... 23.34.25 # indeed 23.34.26 # i was just wondering how the new Remote WPS works and how you add custom ones 23.34.28 Join hardeep [0] (i=hardeeps@norge.freeshell.ORG) 23.35.42 # <_FireFly_> Inferno: it's the same as for the main only you have a smaller screen and the file-ending id .rwps 23.35.44 # Cassandra: you think this is fine enough: http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/rwps.patch 23.35.46 # Perhaps you should try resetting your settings then. 23.36.25 # Cool, where do they get stored, in the WPS folder like the others? 23.36.34 # webguest61: yes, we use a sector before the file system 23.37.16 # <_FireFly_> Bagder: i have adjusted the lines to <= 80 cols as much as usefull 23.37.23 # <_FireFly_> Inferno: yes 23.37.50 # cool 23.38.07 # Looks good, bagder. 23.38.23 Join RotAtoR [0] (n=e@12-210-82-91.client.insightBB.com) 23.38.27 # ok, commit coming up 23.38.30 # i just noticed the "Browse .rwps files" option 23.38.35 # * petur thinks he needs a faster computer to build that crosscompiler :( 23.38.50 # petur: you just need patience 23.39.15 # aaargh, it just stopped with an error after 60+ minutes :(((( 23.39.36 # This is because the universe hates you. 23.40.14 # ok I'll never post progress on mistic again.... 23.40.21 # i thought it hated me 23.40.29 # <_FireFly_> Bagder do you want only these changes as patch or can i also put into it my wps-sb-tag-patch ?? 23.40.33 # the dreaded rockbox curse! 23.41.08 # _FireFly_: please make it separate 23.41.54 # * Bagder shoulders the Code Police cloak tonight 23.42.12 # ahhh... there we go, boxes just loaded correctly after yet another reformat cycle... 23.42.41 # man gparted did some weird things, I'll use fdisk next time :-p 23.42.44 # Bagder: what's happened with the CVS table? 23.43.47 # http://www.misticaudio.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=44 23.43.55 # <_FireFly_> Bagder i had to split some calculations in several lines to fit to 80 cols 23.44.00 # <_FireFly_> e.g. max_step = (wps_state.id3->length - 23.44.00 # <_FireFly_> (wps_state.id3->elapsed + ff_rewind_count)) * 23.44.00 # <_FireFly_> FF_REWIND_MAX_PERCENT / 100; 23.44.01 # every time i do make zip now, it complains about some wps module 23.44.05 # how to fix that? 23.44.09 # hey I don't wnat to be a dick. And bad to Jeff. But is this legal? 23.44.17 # <_FireFly_> preglow cvs co wps ;) 23.44.29 # right, thanks 23.44.34 # right, thanks 23.44.37 # he actually caps 15USD to put rockbox in!!! 23.44.40 # XavierGr: yes it is 23.45.02 # ok, what's up with my connection now 23.45.31 # wow then no bad feelings, it is just that I don't like these sort of things. Selling rockbox... 23.46.00 # shouldn't the win32 uisimulator play sound? 23.46.04 # you could possibly call it freeloading, but it certainly isn't illegal 23.47.05 # using 3.4.4 to build crosscompiler 4.0.2 - any problem in this combination? 23.47.11 # 15USD to load rockbox? That lame IMHO, but oh well, I don't know the customs in US :p 23.47.20 # XavierGr: he's providing a service, so he's charging for his time. that's perfectly legal for GPL'ed software. 23.47.26 # Well, it may be worth it to some people. 23.47.29 # for 15$ i think it's ok 23.47.35 # some people don't want to mess with these things 23.47.35 Quit joshn ("KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'") 23.47.50 # if people pay for it they obviously want it 23.47.59 # preglow: some people are blind, too, which may make it handy for them. 23.48.13 # wow end results from 2nd Battery benchmark without my plugin: 23.48.22 # ashridah: indeed 23.48.41 # <_FireFly_> Bagder: http://home.arcor.de/s.wezel/missing_headers.patch 23.48.46 # starting time 11:45 ended 12:42 running time ~25 hours 23.49.04 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@dslcustomer-230-197.vivodi.gr) 23.49.13 # up or down eactly the same as with my plugin :) sweet! 23.49.27 # rwps? 23.49.38 # It's definitely cvs add -kb to add a binary to the repository, isn't it? 23.49.38 # <_FireFly_> preglow: remote-wps 23.49.47 # Cassandra: yes 23.50.13 # Jolly good. Doesn't seem to give any indication that it's tagged them as binary. 23.51.01 # could it be I need the gcc-3.4.4.patch attached to the bottom of http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler? Let's try... 23.51.12 # well then it is sorted then. linuxstb_: I will update the wiki with my plugin. Also I will update my plugin in the tracker. From now on if anyone wants to make a battery benchmark please consider using my plugin. Thnaks 23.51.48 # can anyone tell me what a backslash in front of a symbol means in arm assembler? 23.53.27 # the web cvs seems down ... 23.54.55 # TiMiD: Works fine for me. 23.54.58 # <_FireFly_> TiMiD: it works for me 23.55.32 Quit Strath (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.55.53 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@labb.contactor.se) 23.56.33 # An Exception Has Occurred 23.56.33 # apps/wps.c.diff: unknown location 23.56.33 # HTTP Response Status 23.56.34 # 404 Not Found 23.56.40 # that's what I get 23.56.48 # that file is delete 23.56.49 # d 23.56.55 # wps.c isn't in the archive any more. 23.57.03 # hmm ok 23.57.12 # you want gui/gwps.c or gui/gwps-common.c 23.57.19 # in apps/ 23.57.32 Join Strath [0] (n=mike@dpc674681214.direcpc.com) 23.57.46 # yes I know 23.57.55 # I looked at _FireFly_ patch too 23.58.01 # You know the web interface totally fails to tell me whether I successfully commited those files as binary. 23.58.12 # And for some reason I don't get half the commit messages. 23.58.42 # yeah i just noticed the daily build page isn't showing anything after 2005-11-17 21:05 23.58.51 # I think it was too young to get commited though, some changes needs to be made in the API imho 23.58.52 # i don't see commit messages for any of the wps commits