--- Log for 20.11.105 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 15 days and 19 hours ago 00.00.01 # like, SCREEN_SET_BACKGROUND(screen, colour) 00.00.22 # which would collapse to nothing when there are only monochrome screen(s) 00.01.04 # but expand to screen->set_background(colour) as soon as at least one screen is greyscale or colour 00.01.31 # the set_background function would then be high-level 00.02.04 # ..and call the appropriate driver function depending on display capabilities 00.02.33 # sounds good 00.02.36 # about color 00.02.58 # does it have to be r, g, b ? 00.02.59 # seems like gmini simulator isn't building. what builds am i supposed to usually check before uploading a patch? 00.03.11 # TiMiD: On colour units: yes 00.03.54 # then the program would still have particular case 00.04.16 # Not if the generic colours are also macros 00.04.35 # damn, it's getting chilly 00.04.39 Join DMJC [0] (n=DMJC@220-245-163-220-sa-nt-pppoe.tpgi.com.au) 00.05.12 # We need a top-level #define (can be 'computed' based on the individual lcd macros) that tells us the device capability 00.05.46 # E.g. 00.05.51 # device capability ? you mean screen capability 00.06.09 # #if defined(LCD_COLOUR) || defined(LCD_REMOTE_COLOUR) 00.06.27 # #define DISPLAY_CAP COLOUR 00.06.45 # #elif (LCD_DEPTH > 1) || (LCD_REMOTE_DEPTH > 1) 00.06.55 # #define DISPLAY_CAP GRAY 00.06.58 # #else 00.07.05 # #define DISPLAY_CAP MONO 00.07.06 # #endif 00.08.06 # in case we have mono & color, this would always tell us COLOR 00.08.14 # s/COLOUR/COLOR/g 00.08.21 # linuxstb: i'm not at all certain what to do with the cop, i'm just hoping it'll sleep on until i want to care about it 00.08.23 # Yes, and it has to 00.08.35 # so the app would send parameters as rgb to both displays 00.08.39 # yes 00.08.52 # That's where the app-level set_background comes into play 00.09.42 # I see 00.09.54 # It's unavoidable for colour-mono or grey-mono combinations, if we want to get the app code as display-independent as possible 00.10.12 # ...but the functions would vanish for mono-only units 00.10.25 # ...and that are the ones we have to worry about code-size wise 00.11.04 # yes, the app level set_background would be reduced more and more when decreasing the max unit capabilities 00.11.15 # Yes. 00.12.23 # For colour capable devices, it would call the driver-level function for the colour screen, convert to grey and call the driver-level function for greyscale screen, and ignore the value for a mono screen 00.12.52 # For greyscale devices, it would call the driver-level function for the greyscale screen, and ignore the value for a mono screen 00.13.01 # For a mono device, it wouldn't be present 00.13.34 # An appropriate place should be screen-access.c 00.13.38 # the only thing I see which wouldn't work is when apps will use custom r g b values 00.13.50 # amiconn: would rockbox work on some level with no interrupt handling? 00.14.06 # This one already contains screentype dependent code 00.14.07 # because it could become ugly on displays without color :) 00.14.29 # Yes. For custom colours, the app has to check the capability definition 00.14.45 # hehe 00.14.51 # It's impossible to make the app code 100% independent, the screens differ way too much for this 00.14.52 # sounds like we solved this problem ;) 00.15.10 # now implementation :) 00.15.27 # Like, the plugins which use game graphics have to use different graphics depending on the resolution etc 00.15.51 # Things will become even more funny where the special gfx libraries come into play 00.15.59 # (playergfx and grayscale) 00.16.02 # like grayscal ^^ 00.16.26 # Speaking about it - I should get back to working on it :) 00.16.34 # graycsale to the sim! 00.16.36 # grayscale ? 00.16.39 # oh yes :) 00.16.56 # The win32 sim is already partly prepared for this 00.17.02 # maybe grayscale could be moved to app level instead of staying inside the plugins 00.17.20 # (same for playergfx) 00.17.23 # no 00.17.34 # lamed: don't bother about the gmini 00.17.52 # that is a dead target for now 00.18.43 # preglow: Yes, I hope so too. 00.18.47 # (about the cop) 00.18.49 # ohh just something 00.18.52 # TiMiD: the greyscale code takes too much memory and cpu 00.19.01 Quit Moos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.19.14 # I activated disk icon on remote 00.19.21 # everyone is ok woth this ? 00.19.26 # with 00.19.44 # i'm with you 00.19.48 # LinusN, TiMiD: And of course, grayscale in the core would increase binary size considerably 00.20.24 # LinusN: Btw, what about enabling folder skipo for archos? Not that I like this feature, 00.20.38 # Is there a reason current_tick is signed, or is that a mistake? 00.20.53 # but I like features even less where the functions exist but are not hooked 00.21.07 # linuxstb: not that i know of 00.21.15 # linuxstb: When thionking about it, it's probably to ease compting time differences 00.21.34 # ah yes 00.21.37 # * amiconn can't type :/ 00.21.41 # also, is it possible to test the alarm_menu on sim ? 00.21.55 # No, afaik 00.22.05 # so I can't test it hehe 00.22.12 # * amiconn points at LinusN 00.22.19 # should be easy to simulate 00.22.32 # This has to be tested by an fmrecorder or v2 owner (or v1 with alarm mod) 00.22.38 Quit arkascha (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.22.48 # LinusN: Using cron? ;) 00.24.02 # at least i compile it 00.24.25 # I assume that since the modifications I did wern't too critic, it will work 00.24.43 Quit akaidiot (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.25.35 # amiconn: :-) 00.27.11 # i guess i'll attack the rtc simulation when i port the rtc functions to the h300 00.28.54 Join actionshrimp [0] (i=dave@dhcp-163-1-214-173.seh.ox.ac.uk) 00.29.06 Part petur 00.29.06 Join Mark__ [0] (n=Mark@cpc1-bele3-3-1-cust167.belf.cable.ntl.com) 00.31.04 # ok, so let's see what else i've forgotten 00.33.38 # amiconn: i think folder skip should be enabled on archos 00.35.11 # linuxstb__: the bootloader button driver is rEALLY flakey here 00.35.16 # it works about one time in ten 00.36.41 Join pinkutank [0] (n=ddd@85.101.96.60) 00.37.19 # nhola 00.38.07 # seems like we fixed some 00.38.13 # i mean the wps 00.38.40 # rockbox is really killing me, im an update addict, I build every single cvs change 00.38.43 # :) 00.38.54 # i do that too - lol 00.38.55 # lol 00.39.01 Nick hshah_ is now known as hshah (n=hshah@hirenshah.plus.com) 00.39.32 # can you run the iriver 300 series in a low power greyscale mode? 00.39.34 # preglow: I find it reliable - a long as I press the button at the right time :) i.e. just before the apple logo appears. 00.39.40 # or does it need to be run in color 00.40.39 # linuxstb: doesn't work anyway for me 00.40.55 # looks like fat code is failing for me now 00.41.05 # can't load rockbox.ipod 00.41.10 # and can't create a file either, i see 00.41.35 # ipod rockbox is out? 00.41.35 # Mmm. What have you changed? 00.41.48 # Kyl3: No, we're still working on it. 00.42.03 # oh 00.44.01 # linuxstb: not much, crt0, primarily 00.44.11 Join dropandho [0] (n=dropandh@cpe-24-193-36-91.nyc.res.rr.com) 00.44.22 # load_rockbox returns -1 00.44.25 # hey all! 00.44.26 # which means it couldn't open at all 00.44.47 # TiMiD: Btw, today I've noticed that your new yesno.c isn't used everywhere yet. The Delete? confirmation still uses a custom request 00.45.04 # anyone know if anyone is working on any of the Blocker bugs on the ihp? 00.45.12 # I also noticed that the remote looks funny for plugins that use splash, but don't use it otherwise 00.45.14 Quit muesli_- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.45.34 # preglow: Let me test the current bootloader. 00.45.41 Part linuxstb 00.45.58 # will the 300 version of rockbox support the H140 remote? 00.46.05 # yes 00.46.10 # cool :D 00.46.13 # how about the h300 remote? 00.46.13 Nick linuxstb__ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 00.46.32 # h300 remote is a clone of the buttons isn't it? 00.46.35 # Kyl3: That's the buttons-only remote? 00.46.43 # yeah 00.46.58 # Probably, if at least one dev has it 00.47.06 # its the joystick one 00.47.10 # *way* easier than the remote lcd 00.47.20 # amiconn: yes, I'm currently trying to make the codeuse it everywhere 00.47.29 # and also to remove the status_draw 00.47.33 # Button-only remotes are an old hat for rockbox 00.47.53 # The archos player and recorder has a button remote 00.48.06 # do any of you guys know any of the work on the bug blockers? 00.48.31 # What do you mean with blockers? 00.48.43 # Many devs are continuously working in different areas 00.49.08 # on the wiki there are bugs that "must be fixed before a release of Rockbox for iriver" 00.49.19 # i havent heard talk of them on forever, as they aren't exciting 00.49.26 # linuxstb: correct partition is listed at boot, so i don't quite understand why it fails in opening the file 00.49.28 # i was just wondering if anyone was workin on any of them 00.51.31 # guys, I think he was talking about the lcd h300 remote 00.51.36 # there is such a remote 00.51.42 # yea 00.52.00 # the one sold at MR from time 2 time 00.52.00 # or she 00.52.17 # I hate not knowing the gender, I cant clal you peole it can I 00.52.30 # preglow: It's still working fine for me. I've just compiled a clean bootloader from CVS, and it loads my rockbox.ipod and the checksum matches. 00.52.37 # linuxstb: seems threading broke it... 00.52.39 # if you meant me im a he 00.52.43 # i just got the rockbox splash here 00.52.51 # oooh. Photo! 00.52.53 # haha 00.52.59 # plus a ton of garbage 00.53.02 # And then what happened? 00.53.02 # okies, gimme a sec 00.53.06 # it locked, of course 00.54.12 # i don't have a .rockbox yet, you see :) 00.55.11 # ok, but then it appears something's busted in my threading 00.55.34 # amiconn- do you know what i am refering to? 00.55.45 # No 00.55.56 # amiconn: It's the IriverStatus page. 00.56.01 # thanks! 00.56.01 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverStatus 00.56.05 # I don't own a h300, and I haven't seen a special h300 lcd remote 00.56.30 # But those "blocker bugs" were written a few months ago - some (e.g. the voice UI) may be fixed. 00.56.37 # * amiconn seems to be confusing people 00.56.43 # great news! 00.57.03 # you saved money on your car inccurance 00.57.03 # ? 00.57.06 # But there may be other bugs which aren't in that list. 00.57.11 # dropandho: None of these are fixed afaik 00.57.17 # so how do we poll people to get this updated 00.57.21 # got it 00.58.10 # voice UI has more problems than just the one mentioned 00.58.13 # everyone seems to be focused on more exciting things (wps, remote, ipod, h300) so i was just curious 00.59.08 # Yes, there is a danger that everyone will move onto the new colour devices. But most of the bugs will apply to those targets as well. 00.59.16 # linuxstb: what'd you call that linux camera download prog again? 00.59.21 # s/everyone/some people/ 00.59.32 # gphoto2 00.59.47 # argh 00.59.52 # linuxstb- thanks, just really excited to get a released rockbox for my h120! 00.59.57 # ubuntu used to have a handler that reacted to me plugging in my camera 00.59.58 # not so anymore 01.00.04 # ill send you a picture of a h300 lcd if you guys want 01.00.16 # I'm interested in colour devices from the development point of view; for actual usage I try to stay away from them 01.00.21 Join Scohol [0] (n=scohol@203-173-3-114.dyn.iinet.net.au) 01.00.33 # dropandho what do you want updated 01.00.37 # why amiconn 01.00.41 # i mean why stay away 01.00.57 # Colour eats more battery and isn't readable without backlight 01.01.03 # so is anyone working on a gigabeat firmware? 01.01.07 # ...and it's unnecessary for a dap 01.01.12 # ipod video is readable without backlight 01.01.27 # pinkutank- i was just wondering if the blocker bugs on the iriver status page were upto date 01.01.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.01.50 # iriver 120 firmware is very fine atm if you want to use it 01.01.54 # Scohol: not that i know of 01.01.56 # LinusN: Btw, what about the windows installer builds? 01.02.08 # ooops, forgot that :-) 01.02.12 # meh :/ 01.02.13 # Scohol: One person is thinking about it, but he doesn't even own a gigabeat yet. 01.02.16 # + i read lots of manga, I'd enjoy watching an anime or two 01.02.30 # Then there is that nice little feature of logbot... 01.02.31 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatInfo <--- yeah 01.02.41 # there was something about them that makes it easy, i forgot what 01.02.51 # but they have 400 mhz arm processor!! 01.03.19 # their firmware is based on linux 01.03.20 # + x30 is not so chunky and the control looks nice 01.03.27 # but dont expect it monday 01.03.40 # Scohol: Do you own a gigabeat? 01.03.45 # yeah 01.03.46 # linuxstb: Did you scan your unit meanwhile? 01.04.11 # No, not yet. I need to install the scanner first. 01.04.16 # scohol: then you can speed up the process if youre willing to hlep the dev teaö 01.04.18 # m 01.04.32 # but being new to all this, not sure what to do 01.04.43 # haw are things coming along with the H300 port 01.04.47 # any new progress 01.05.11 # soo.. i can do things if you tell me what to do 01.05.28 # a few new builds 01.05.38 # no releases 01.05.46 # cool 01.06.38 # is alright, im not a lamer.. just don't know how to start to mod a DAP 01.06.43 # Scohol: You could ask Toshiba for a copy of the source code to the parts of their firmware covered by the GPL? 01.07.17 # im sure we could try.. since it is a GPL 01.07.21 # I think he can do more linux 01.07.32 # lets debate the mail were going to send them 01.07.43 # the firmware is their botleneck of a really good hardware 01.07.49 # how many platforms are you trying to get rockbox on? 01.07.56 # everywehre i seee nice unit sucky firmware 01.08.04 # get together few links that says so 01.08.13 # offer them to work together 01.08.19 # for a better firmware 01.08.27 # will rockbox offer image support in the firmware? 01.08.33 # and they get toshiba logo near rockbox in boot ? 01.08.41 # i wish i could help but i cant code.. lol 01.08.45 # http://www.pvv.org/~thomj/rockbox/splash.jpg 01.08.52 # how does it sound? I think theyll be willing to help 01.09.03 # as you can see, there's still something left to be desired... 01.09.12 # the heck? 01.09.14 # preglow: yiehaa! 01.09.21 # how'd it get running on ipod? 01.09.32 # lol.. i really do think they need help.. but they seem to not want it 01.09.48 # we can see if we email them 01.09.49 Quit ender` (" Theorem: a cat has nine tails. Proof: No cat has eight tails. A cat has one tail more than no cat. Therefore, a cat has") 01.09.54 # i wonder where the bottom glitch comes from... 01.09.58 # preglow: Nice work. At least some of your crt0.S is working OK. 01.10.05 # if you create the text lets debate it 01.10.08 # (if not all of it) 01.10.09 # on the forum 01.10.12 # perfect it 01.10.13 # and send 01.10.26 # linuxstb: let's not jump to conclusions here, if everything was ok, it wouldn't look like that :) 01.10.31 # besides, i haven't done much at all 01.10.31 # you guys aware of the www.mygigabeat.com website 01.10.50 # not me 01.10.52 # looking atm 01.10.58 # I'm always dap horny 01.11.14 # hmm I wonder if thats where the real life libido goes 01.11.20 # think i'll just comment away some of my crt0.S work and see if it even makes any difference 01.11.37 # anyway.. first we need a decent contact at toshiba 01.11.45 # so get your girlfriend to hold an ipod while you have sex 01.11.54 # ? 01.12.06 # * amiconn wonders whether this shot is good enough for creating a win32 sim background for the nano 01.12.34 # * preglow wonders why people need bitmaps in the sims at all... 01.12.51 # DMJC: i just might once i actually get it working 01.13.01 # Well, mostly in order to mark the button mappings 01.13.23 # One day I'll add clickable buttons... 01.13.44 # amiconn: anywho, i can get you a better photo than that for the sim 01.15.53 # ermm 01.15.58 # no dmjc 01.16.21 # so is it worth polling the devs to get the blocker bugs updated on the wiki? 01.16.22 # i was talkin about casual libido, im a rather casually asexual person 01.16.23 # This glitch is strange, it's a somehow enlarged rockbox logo 01.16.30 # but this is no social discussion 01.16.39 # + ipod doesnt catch me one bit 01.17.22 # Scohol, I think if you can find a english speaking japanese person 01.17.27 # that is willng to work as a dev 01.17.28 # amiconn: seems like something walked the bitmap with too large a stride 01.17.39 # he'll work through all the bugs like a landmover :D 01.18.03 # It rather seems the target stride was larger, otherwise it would be shrunk instead of enlarged 01.18.23 # ahh, yes 01.19.01 # It's also very strange that the left & right part have each other line shifted sideways by one pixel, but the middle part has not 01.19.18 # anyway.. i just woken up.. and seems like this is what ill be doing today.. 01.19.44 # but for now im going to have a shower and breakfast.. so i don't seem so hungover from last night :) 01.19.50 # if you do the letter soon 01.19.51 # dropandho: you can start with trying to reproduce the bugs on that page, to see if they are still there 01.19.56 # send me once youre 01.19.56 # amiconn: the garbage differs each time i boot 01.19.58 # done 01.20.01 # Ill polish 01.20.16 # ok. 01.20.18 # dropandho: especially the "missing voice file" bug, i suspect that it is fixed 01.20.31 # amiconn: nah, not each time 01.21.03 # I think boot things are going to the wrong place, like to the video instead of another c that will output it to the screen 01.21.05 # Linus- got it...thanks for the help! 01.21.07 # a wild guess yeehaw :P 01.21.17 # Linus- just wanna make certain everything is a green light! 01.21.23 # but currently i don't do much but clear bss and ibss, copy iram, set up stack, then jump to main 01.21.27 # doesn't sound like it's enough to me 01.22.23 # preglow: do a small test to see that .data is correctly loaded 01.22.48 Quit gromit` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.23.13 # LinusN: well, isn't the image in itself evidence of that? 01.23.16 # no, that might be const, yes 01.23.19 # .text 01.23.41 # const is .rodata 01.23.57 # preglow: afaik, .data isn't included in the .bin file 01.24.05 # huh? 01.24.32 # that's why you need .datacopy 01.24.36 # Nope 01.24.44 # .data is included in the bin 01.24.46 # good 01.24.57 # datacopy is only there for rom-based execution 01.25.08 # ...since it has to be copied from rom to ram 01.25.43 # but ok, i'll just put in a couple of printfs and see what happens 01.25.43 # I'm done making the usb charger cable... now a second voltage check and the scary part... 01.25.55 # hi lamed 01.26.09 # now you'r back...?! 01.26.14 # yyou wanted to ask me somethings? 01.26.20 # erm yes... I was sleeping 01.27.16 # i wanted to ask about usb2, i've read you've checked and the usb charger won't work as a usb2 if i'll cut the data cables. do you know why? 01.27.23 # or was it found incorrect...? 01.27.31 # http://www.misticriver.net/photos/displayimage.php?album=38&pos=2 01.27.32 # i'm surprised that .data is included in the binary 01.27.39 # check this schema for help 01.28.00 # lamed: in my first attmemp I cut both voltage and data lines 01.28.20 # (what's missing in your scheme is where red and black lines go... i already know that but it's missing there) 01.28.25 # the result was that the unit supported only USB 1.1 speeds. 01.28.25 # the ram builds link with the datacopy at the same address as .data 01.28.41 # xaviergr: how good have you solderd them back? 01.28.57 # but afaik, it is the copy that gets included by objcopy --binary 01.29.29 # hah! 01.29.31 # (ok... i'm ready... should i connect the power or the data first... ahhh) 01.29.46 # lamed: If you fiddle only with the voltage lines a normal soldering technique will do its job 01.30.02 # ok... data is ok. 01.30.26 # lamed: but if you cut the data lines you must be sure that the ohm impedance will be very low to make it work at USB 2.0 sppeds 01.30.34 Quit thegeek (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.30.48 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s115b.studby.ntnu.no) 01.30.57 # oh hi thegeek 01.31.07 # about your adui problem... 01.31.15 # did you fixed it in the end? 01.31.15 # (xaviergr: no, i ment when you've tried to make a short cable. could it be that you have solderd a ,, how do you call that part that connects 3 lines, instead of just soldering line to itself? 01.31.33 # LinusN: yes, but as you say yourself, the copy is identical to .data itself for ram builds 01.31.47 # * amiconn wonders why LinusN wonders about .data 01.31.49 # ok lamed turns out I told you the truth :) 01.32.18 # I know some guys I can ask about doing a low ohm connection if you want 01.32.25 # lamed: to solder the voltage lines (and to make it more stable) I used a small pcb breadboard 3*3 holes 01.32.25 # amiconn: because preglow wanted to tweak the lds file to not include datacopy 01.32.31 Quit lamed ("CGI:IRC") 01.32.35 Join lamed [0] (n=52a6f590@labb.contactor.se) 01.33.11 # pcb breadboard=a board with dots that you can solder stuff on it. (you can break it and make it as small as you want) 01.33.14 # LinusN: There is nothing to tweak. He doesn't need a datacopy routine as long as he doesn't plan to flash his ipod with rockbox 01.33.17 Quit actionshrimp ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") 01.33.18 # xavier he is trying to conserve as much as possible 01.33.46 # lamed: you can find those boards on electronics workshops 01.33.49 # http://www.pvv.org/~thomj/rockbox/wootwoot.jpg 01.33.49 Quit lamed (Client Quit) 01.33.52 Join lamed [0] (n=52a6f590@labb.contactor.se) 01.34.11 # amiconn: but if he tweaks the lds file to not put a data copy in readonly mem, the data will not be copied into the binary by objcopy 01.34.29 # preglow: ninja! 01.34.36 # agreed 01.34.39 # it's a threading problem 01.35.01 # something's broken with my threading, that's for sure 01.35.01 # LinusN: crt0.S, coldfire: lines 436..439, SH1: lines 587..590 01.35.11 # all i did was add a printf, which i never even saw, and a sleep() call 01.35.14 # xaviergr, i already know everything you'r talking about... i'm just asking why do you think it didn't worked with the shortend/ solderd cable? what's the diffrance from soldering it at the tips? -only a mere e.m. field. or is it the ohm? 01.35.18 # i'm willing to bet that's what made it work now 01.35.51 # lamed 01.35.52 # amiconn: do you know at all what i'm talking about? 01.35.54 # it is the ohm 01.35.59 # what is the rockbox firmware written in? 01.35.59 # lamed: you can skip the pcb part if you want. I just used this to make it more easy 01.36.02 # C? 01.36.04 # if you do a messy ocnnection 01.36.12 # you get more resistance 01.36.17 # killing the data rate 01.36.21 # preglow: Hehe, with the flash disk icon in the upper right corner :) 01.36.33 # amiconn: haha, so that's what that was 01.36.48 # but if you kinda braid the two together, and dip them in silver based solder 01.36.54 # pinkutank: though a little more resistance in voltage line shouldn't matter. 01.36.57 # there should be no problem at all with ohm 01.36.59 # pinkutank: but you get waaay less ohm because you shortend the cable for like 50 cm! 01.37.11 # oh yes youre shoretning 01.37.19 # i forgot that 01.37.22 # Ohm impedance matters on the data cables. That's why I didn't cut those 01.37.44 # lamed what you want exactly? 01.37.50 # I'm not really familiar with impedance , i gotta study to answer from this point on 01.37.58 # he wants to shorten usb cavle 01.37.59 # nle 01.38.01 # a shortened USB 2.0 charge/sync cable? 01.38.02 # ble 01.38.07 # LinusN: Not really... My point is that a datacopy routine is unnecessary for ram-based rockbox 01.38.13 # dont offer him a boxwave 01.38.15 # :) 01.38.18 # preglow: That's a nice photo. Has Rockbox crashed, or is it still running? 01.38.29 # still running, backlight on and all 01.38.30 # The current linker scripts handle that, I don't see the need to change them for ipod 01.38.33 # so probably crashed 01.38.38 # (except the addresses itself) 01.38.51 # XavierGr : yes, I fixed it 01.38.52 # amiconn: yes it is unnecessary 01.39.00 # linuxstb: unless, of course, you haven't fixed backlight in main rockbox code yet 01.39.01 # Yes, the app.lds is identical apart from the addresses. 01.39.05 # I thought the problem was the audio connector itself 01.39.14 # and LinusN actually sent me a new one(thanks;) 01.39.14 # preglow: I thought I did. 01.39.23 # but after soldering in the new one, the problem persisted 01.39.27 # haha. i can be even more suprising on that! and tell you i just connected my player, first data and now power, it recharged for a second, then it stopped, disconnected, now it's fully connected to the usb charger cable but it dosen't recharge nor thinks it's connected! and i can even tell you why it happend: because i have a long wier connected to the computer so i won't have to work my way to the usb on the computer! 01.39.28 # linuxstb: it's probably broken, then, like i said, something's bogus with the threading 01.39.32 # so I poked around for a while 01.39.40 # and found that bad resistor 01.39.51 # I wonder why the screen isn't completely cleared. 01.39.58 # which resistor it was? 01.39.58 # it looked fine, but I tried to just reheat the solder connection, and it has worked perfectly ever since;) 01.40.01 # preglow: The flash disk icon is the virtual 'disk led' for Ondio, since the Ondion doesn't have a disk led 01.40.02 # hmm 01.40.04 # sl5 01.40.05 # I think 01.40.11 # amiconn: no led for nano either 01.40.20 # hang on 01.40.21 # lamed dont scare us 01.40.21 Quit lamed ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.40.22 Join lamed [0] (n=52a6f590@labb.contactor.se) 01.40.23 # please? 01.40.28 # http://www.rockbox.org/iriver/back.jpg 01.40.33 # where thegeek? 01.40.37 # the other side 01.40.37 # can you show me? 01.40.46 # hmm 01.40.52 # Iiuc TiMiD will use that for the remote status bar on H1x0 as well (disk icon this time), and it will probably also be useful on h300 01.40.54 # is there a scan without the lcd? 01.41.03 # you removed the LCD? 01.41.08 # It's right behind the lcd in the upper left here : http://www.rockbox.org/iriver/front.jpg 01.41.08 # no 01.41.13 # you dont have to 01.41.18 # I just lifter up the black padding 01.41.26 # but 01.41.27 # preglow: Yes, the backlight code is in firmware/backlight.c, so it should work. But I haven't tested it. 01.41.37 # the geek what did you solder, I couldnt catch the first message 01.41.46 # i found my problem, because the sound only "dropped" when I bent the pcb 01.41.49 # http://www.rockbox.org/iriver/naked_front.jpg 01.41.52 # here? 01.42.00 # I mean, bent it in that corner 01.42.08 # ah 01.42.11 # l5 and l6 there 01.42.22 # right under the audio connector 01.42.25 # upper left on the image 01.42.28 # hehe... still fiddeling around the cable... the green light is off, but wps battery indicator reports a charger... i guess it's about 3-4 voltage then. 01.42.50 # I actually changed the audio connector twice 01.42.58 # before I gave up on the connector itself 01.43.11 # I then soldered on another connector, using wired 01.43.13 # *wires 01.43.15 # you mean L% and L^ resistor? 01.43.20 # L5 and L6 01.43.22 # l5 and l6 01.43.23 # ;) 01.43.41 # but unless your sound is bad when you bend that corner 01.43.46 # .. 01.43.53 # what exactly is your problem XavierGr? 01.43.53 # bah 01.43.59 # can't see what's wrong with threads either 01.44.07 # well the sound gets duller when I poke the connector 01.44.08 # all i've done is implement context store and load, and those look right 01.44.12 # mhm 01.44.20 # did a disassembly, and gcc does use scratch regs where it should 01.44.30 # my problem occured when I dropped the player with the headphone plug in 01.44.35 # it landed on the plug itself 01.44.56 # no mine started this without notice 01.44.56 # I guess all the force was transferred into the pcb itself 01.45.02 # and broke the solder connection 01.45.18 Join webguest40 [0] (n=864c032b@labb.contactor.se) 01.45.22 # if you have a solder iron, and know how to use it, you can just try to reheat the connections 01.45.49 # i will do 01.45.56 # just be damn careful, especially around the smd parts 01.46.05 # ;) 01.46.12 # I just wait for Slasheri to tell me the hardware mod fix for the remote ticking issues 01.46.13 # dang! i'm not getting any recharge!!! 01.46.24 # ;) 01.46.55 # lamed: did you checked with a multimeter? 01.48.28 # xaviergr: ever came across that? -data isn't connected, i connect the usb charger dc solely, it charges for a sec and shots off. the wps battery indicator shows recharging. the data cable works o.k 01.49.28 # multimeter: exactly 5.0 volts. 01.49.38 # strange!! 01.50.05 # i know! :((( 01.50.11 # hope it's just my computer 01.50.34 # the other guess is that it's because of the 220 Volts israeli power supply 01.50.57 # USB ports are (usually) overcurrent protected 01.51.05 # it is follish to think that way... but maybe there's a small diffrance. 01.51.27 # amiconn: removing statusbar and associated, gain : 1.5k 01.51.29 # (and i've lost usb mouse :( 01.51.34 # Not all of them though, but a properly implemented USB port allows to draw at max. 100 mA before it shuts down 01.51.56 # A device has to request more before it is allowed to draw more than that 01.52.03 # what does '...' mean in a disassembly? 01.52.14 # The maximum is 500 mA 01.52.18 # amiconn: i've never seen an usb driver that actually implements that 01.52.58 # weeee!!! you won't believe that. 01.52.58 # It's in the standards, and I believe at least a fraction of the existing devices do it properly 01.53.17 # Of course there are ports on PC mainboards that aren't current limited at all 01.53.44 # With those you can easily fry the mainboard, the power supply, or both, if you aren't careful 01.53.56 # amiconn: no, they usually are current limited, but not per port 01.53.57 # amiconn: guess my p3 850 old computer's two usb's are sharing somehow the same powersource. disconnected the mouse and iriver shows recharginf! 01.54.22 # connected: no recharging... 01.54.23 Quit tim66 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.54.56 # Wow, someone's been busy: http://www.mimuw.edu.pl/~tmal/rockbox/ 01.55.04 # i'm having a look at the disassembly of switch_thread here, but some of the interesting parts are masked by '...' lines... 01.55.20 # all those voltage gain and losses on the data cable really freaks the player off. 01.55.30 # i guess some of it is a literal pool, but the return instruction isn't there either... 01.55.59 Quit Kyl3 () 01.56.18 # preglow: YOu're using objdump for disassembling? 01.56.25 # amiconn: aye 01.56.32 # that's all i have 01.56.57 # objdump isn't very reliable for disassembling. Had that several times with coldfire 01.57.01 # it's the second time it's hung... screen scrolls and reacts to long stop button. 01.57.02 Join Mordov_ [0] (n=Mordov@13.80-202-208.nextgentel.com) 01.58.09 # amiconn: well, it's all i've got unless i'm going to start doing it by hand 01.58.10 # For SH1 we have an alternative disassembler, so I compared objdump and sh2d for sh1 code. 01.58.10 # -D and -z are useful switches to objdump 01.58.24 # and -s 01.58.42 # man 01.58.50 # switch_thread doesn't work properly for arm 01.59.00 # The bad thing about objdump is that sometimes the disassembled instruction is just plain wrong 01.59.15 # amiconn: for coldfire, yes 01.59.31 # it should do a mov pc, lr 01.59.34 # but it doesn't 01.59.48 # it saves a local copy of lr on stack and uses that instead of the one from the thread context 01.59.54 # no fucking wonder this doesn't work properly 02.01.22 # LinusN: I knew about -D , that's always necessary with .bin input. Didn't try -z or -s so far 02.01.32 # preglow: listing? 02.01.37 # amiconn: gimme a sec 02.02.19 # http://www.pvv.org/~thomj/rockbox/threadlist 02.02.21 # LinusN: Seems like the dirchange code isn't completely there on archos, only the playlist parts 02.02.32 # ah yes 02.02.44 # the ldmia at address 9c is the one that does the context save 02.02.50 # the lr i fetch from there contains the return address 02.02.55 # but as you see, it's never used 02.03.14 # sorry, context _store_ 02.03.17 # argh 02.03.19 # LOAD 02.03.52 # lamed were 220 too 02.03.55 # its not foolish 02.03.59 # its better than 110 02.04.14 # us is the only country that is going against the change 02.04.22 # i wrote foolish? 02.04.39 # (can't scroll...no mouse) 02.04.43 # hehe 02.05.14 # preglow: Iiuc ldmia at 0x9c should be the context load and stmia at 0x38 the store (?) 02.05.30 # this usb cable suck. hope it works better on other computer. 02.05.36 # linusn: viewed my patch? 02.05.57 # (ps my computer has usb 1) 02.05.58 # amiconn: yews 02.06.02 # yes, even 02.06.07 # I'm going to build a wood purple heart dock witth a grey usb cable once I buy me a h340 02.06.26 # perverted. 02.06.44 # I'm going to carve it out 02.06.50 # xaviergr: here? 02.06.53 # of a sample 02.07.00 # Ive got ssomehwre around here 02.07.17 # I'm not the one to use rainforest wood otherwise 02.07.23 # pink: make me one. 02.07.29 # how old r u? 02.07.36 # 18 02.07.44 # young. 02.07.56 # =) 02.07.59 # grumpy like an old man tho 02.08.16 # lamed: which patch was it? 02.08.17 # religious? 02.08.19 # always going on about the current youth and how damned the world is 02.08.22 # screen scroll! 02.08.42 # what bout it?! 02.08.42 # no, have my own stuff or two, all open ended 02.08.48 # ah, you are the guy who shouts loud in the mailing lists 02.09.06 # hahah he was very excite daobut his patch 02.09.35 # lamed : i am here 02.09.45 # hmmm. that was capital letters. haven't thought of that. 02.10.12 Quit mordov (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.10.17 # xaviergr: great. i'd just wanted to say thanks. your cable sucks. ;) 02.10.30 # I think I am going to do the same with my battery_benchmark plugin, as Lamed did. 02.10.44 # amiconn: have you so far just been hoping switch_thread didn't save too much context on the stack, or? 02.10.50 # linusn: would you agree to delete those posts and i'll repost? 02.11.03 # well it works for me, though it causes some problems If i plug and unplug the charge jack while connected. 02.11.07 # lol lamed youre threading on dangerous ground if there is ground at all 02.11.08 # typing in all caps is usually regarded as shouting 02.11.28 # lamed: i can't delete them, we have all received the emails already 02.11.46 # i'm doomed. 02.11.56 # lamed: i haven't taken a close look at the patch yet 02.12.12 # preglow: It used to be that way back in SH1-only times. There we had no conditional jump in load_context, and the return address was forged for the new thread 02.12.20 Join speed123 [0] (n=speed123@p54BB9331.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 02.12.54 # This was the reason why switch_thread stopped working on coldfire with stack checking enabled, because then gcc saved one register too much 02.13.00 # and lamed, it is not my mod 02.13.02 # i've wanted to talk to you about an improved scroll_thread and some parts of the other lcd driver functions. 02.13.08 # other people have tried this before this 02.13.19 # xaviergr: i know. i'm just kidding. 02.13.20 # amiconn: ok, so what can i do? just write it all in asm? 02.13.22 # Therefore I adapted the conditional jump method in load_context (from the gmini scheduler) 02.13.26 # lamed: improved scroll thread? 02.13.30 # That solved the problem 02.13.55 # linusn: was i talking to linuxstb before..? 02.14.01 # so confusing 02.14.20 # I can't spot the exact point where the arm scheduler goes wrong 02.14.30 # monkeys 02.14.36 # oh yes 02.14.38 # Of course I'm no arm asm specialist, but it looks quite right to me 02.14.41 # amiconn: anyway, if you ask me, depending on compiler behaviour like this is bad, bad, bad 02.14.43 # JUST Want to say i guess i found a 5th part different from the H320 US and the H320 International Version ... http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverH3XXHardwareComponents You can see a part missing in the middle right on the botton 02.14.45 # I should draw a monkey in my wps 02.15.02 # now y wud u want to do that? 02.15.03 # preglow: We don't. We used to. 02.15.13 # anyways, my patch made me think about one of the only problems that there are with right to left languages. 02.16.19 # speed123: ah 02.16.36 # speed123: care to edit the pics? 02.16.39 # they are both left alignd and showing the left part instead of the right part. 02.16.50 # preglow: I would like to know what sl, fp, ip and lr are. sp and pc are obvious 02.17.11 # well i could .. but i am eighter registred or something else 02.17.21 # amiconn: fp = frame pointer, the other i have no idea, everyone use them as ordinary registers 02.17.34 # i assume lr is the link register? 02.17.38 # amiconn: they're just aliases to the plain old rxx 02.17.39 # LinusN: correct 02.17.50 # okay 02.17.51 # btw, the ifp thing i arm, isn't it? 02.18.16 Quit HCl (Remote closed the connection) 02.18.20 # >>Restarting<<< 02.18.22 # speed123: then register :-) 02.18.29 # this ldmia at the end is nifty - register restore and rts in one instruction... 02.18.33 Join HCl [0] (i=hcl@titania.student.utwente.nl) 02.18.33 Quit lamed ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.18.47 # is there any signifacant differences between us and intl h300 02.19.33 # amiconn: it is very nifty 02.19.35 # ok i am on the way. well i just want to thank you for all your work, i will edit the pics 02.19.39 # what the hell 02.19.45 # ifp port seems to use my threading code 02.19.50 # and he claims threading works 02.20.08 # no, he does not say threading works... 02.20.42 # we're going to need some ARM define, all this checking for specific cores with arms in them is going to be a bit tedious 02.20.59 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.21.13 # pinkutank: i don't know any differences except for the usb-otg 02.21.20 # preglow: equivalent to CPU_COLDFIRE 02.21.59 # amiconn: yeah, probably 02.22.23 # but hell, i have no idea how to fix this apart from writing switch_thread in asm 02.22.39 # I don't see what's wrong 02.23.11 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp12-adsl-80.ath.forthnet.gr) 02.23.17 # hrmm 02.23.20 # now that you mention 02.23.25 # it should work, shouldn't it 02.23.31 # the stack is swapped, the correct lr should be saved 02.25.02 # it's nice to have a debugger... :-) 02.25.23 # ok Linus, I edited the pics .. how i upragde it? Should i host it on my sever and change the link (img) or what? thx 02.25.58 # preglow: I wonder why the initial stmdb saves a different set of registers than the final ldmia rstores? Or is that because I'm not familiar with arm? 02.26.21 # Linus: When I resolder some connetctions, which things need to be carefull? 02.26.28 # hope i can use this fellow's interrupt code 02.26.35 # smd components that is 02.26.36 # speed123: no, you update the attachment in the wiki 02.27.39 # amiconn: i do understand why lr gets placed in pc, but not why ip is placed in sp 02.28.27 # Yes, lr -> pc makes sense for returning 02.28.48 # ..as lr seems to be the equivalent of SH's pr register 02.29.04 Quit dpassen1 () 02.29.26 # yes 02.29.29 # Ah, storing ip instead of sp makes sense as well 02.29.34 # why? 02.29.40 # There is a mov ip,sp above it 02.29.54 # ah, right 02.29.56 # for fixing the stack again 02.29.57 # ..and if this wouldn't be done this way, the stored sp would be wrong 02.30.08 # i thought the caller offseted the stack again 02.30.14 # ...because sp changes itself during the instruction 02.30.17 Quit dropandho () 02.30.20 # XavierGr: well, don't use too much solder 02.30.38 # what about solder temrature? 02.30.58 # But why is one more register saved than restored? 02.31.04 Quit webguest40 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 02.31.07 # and overall time that solder iron tip will touch the surface? 02.31.25 # as short as you can and still melt the solder 02.31.42 # ok thanks 02.31.51 # if the temp was right, you'll have a nice even surface on the solder point afterwards 02.31.58 # XavierGr: i use a pretty high temperature, and don't stay with the tip very long, but that's often up to personal preference and experience 02.33.02 Quit DMJC ("Leaving") 02.33.51 # man, ifp uses a custom dsp, good luck to this fellow in implementing codecs 02.34.40 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=paulthen@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 02.34.48 # Linus: CHanged the text but cant upload (attach) the pictures, get the same error: Topic save error 02.34.48 # During save of file Main.IriverH3XXHardwareComponents an error was found by the version control system. Please notify your Rockbox administrator. 02.34.49 # Save attachment error /usr/bin/ci -q -l -m%COMMENT|U% -t-none -w%USERNAME|S% %FILENAME|F% 02.34.49 DBUG Enqueued KICK speed123 02.34.49 # ci: missing message for -m option 02.34.49 # 02.34.50 *** Alert Mode level 1 02.34.50 # 02.34.52 # Go back in your browser and save your changes locally. 02.35.17 # speed123: don't leave the comment field empty 02.35.31 # ok 02.35.36 # but anyhow, the fact that this guy has file browsing and keys working, more or less implies he's got threading working 02.35.37 # preglow: You did include the while (num_sleepers == num_threads) part, didn't you? 02.35.50 # amiconn: there's nothing in there, no 02.36.01 # Yes, but the loop is there? 02.36.21 # well, yes, i run straight cvs version 02.36.55 # If so, the scheduler will enter an endless loop as soon as all threads went to 'sleep', and since you did not yet implement interrupts, there is nothing to wake them up again... 02.37.40 # speed123: looks good 02.38.08 # true... 02.38.37 # You can comment out the whole while (num_sleepers == num_threads) loop for a test 02.38.47 # It's only there for saving energy 02.38.59 # thx 02.39.14 # speed123: thank *you* for updating 02.39.19 # ...which in turn can only work with a cpu sleep instruction in place, and of course interrupts 02.40.14 # well i am glad i could do something instead of just donating, i am proud of my H320 and i hope to get rockbox on there before it dies. DOES the Ipod plugin you guys are working on is easier to realise? 02.41.05 # ipod plugin? 02.41.14 # the ipod port is a completely different thing 02.41.27 # ok 02.41.28 # fuck its cold outside! 02.41.32 # it is 02.41.39 # we've got several people working on ipod support, and specs are somewhat available 02.41.43 # which is not the case for h3x0 02.41.50 # -3 here (coventry, uk) 02.42.22 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 02.42.22 # * preglow hugs amiconn 02.42.40 # warm + 3 here (Cologne, germany) 02.43.11 # preglow: It's working? 02.43.12 # amiconn: i wouldn't have guessed that in a good while, thanks for sparing me the trouble 02.43.21 # amiconn: indeed it is, complete with blinking battery icon and all 02.43.23 # Yay! 02.43.47 # went outside to get a can of coke from a shop 15 secs walk from me, got bk 5 mins ago and im still shivering... guess whose keeping the heating on all night 02.44.02 # Stumbled across that when lookin gat lines 0x18..0x20 of the disassembly 02.44.19 # but no, backlight still doesn't turn off 02.44.19 # heh 02.44.24 # but threads are obviously working 02.44.39 # Now, get interrupts working ;) 02.44.51 *** Alert Mode OFF 02.45.00 # Does arm have a sleep instruction? 02.45.12 # yup, i think i'll steal the good tomek malesinski's code 02.45.25 # holy moses, i just loaded the current cvs to my h120, doesn't look good 02.45.40 # So, if he has interrupts, his threading should work ok... 02.45.59 # amiconn: not as such, no, but it does have a sleeping mode for the cop, so should for the main cpu as well 02.46.14 # What is this cop, btw? 02.46.24 # amiconn: the portalplayer chips have two arm cores 02.46.29 # amiconn: the other one is referred to as the cop 02.46.30 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.46.33 # Linus: Did you made a brik out of it? Well i dont know how save it is to do all this great work or if you can recover or s.th. 02.46.35 # ah 02.46.35 # as in coprocessor 02.46.54 # LinusN: how? 02.47.00 # Is there a difference between the two? 02.47.07 # (other than the name) 02.47.13 # the font is wrong in the browser 02.47.41 # amiconn: nah, not much, specwise they're the same, have separate caches, etc 02.47.54 # LinusN: how'd that happen? 02.48.19 # i guess that the new statusbar code did it 02.49.58 # well, take care, good night and thanks 4 everything. 02.50.25 Part speed123 02.50.54 # wah 02.54.56 # hah, checked my ipod again now 02.55.02 # it's hanged at Shutting down :P 02.55.03 # how cute of it 02.56.10 # LinusN: are you talking about the filetree ? 02.56.15 # yes 02.56.42 # it draws the filenames with the internal font 02.57.06 # because I havn't changed neither tree.c, nor list.c 02.57.26 # I test 02.58.20 # hmm there is obviously a problem:) 02.59.36 # woooops 02.59.57 # textarea_clear 03.00.01 # there is a problem in textarea.c which is used by many of my apps 03.00.09 # hehe ;) 03.00.13 # display->setfont(FONT_SYSFIXED); 03.00.16 # spotted at the same time :p 03.00.31 # the question is why did I changed that 03.00.32 # i'll let you fix it 03.00.52 # I must have been under crack or something like this 03.01.14 # as long as you're not ON crack, you'll be fine 03.01.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.02.20 # hehe sounds like my english is sucking more than I expected 03.03.15 # I tend to make english sentences as if I was speaking french using the same words :( 03.03.17 # probably isn't easy to write english when on crack 03.03.23 # hehe 03.03.38 # :) 03.04.06 # since I spotted the bug, I suppose the effects must be finished 03.04.20 # i just love that french guy who used "retardation" when he meant "delay" 03.05.15 # sounds weird to me :) 03.05.24 # hahahah 03.05.28 # I think I would have used delay 03.05.38 # or maybe he just wanted to say "rockbox is so retarded" :-) 03.05.57 # well, it is, isn't it? 03.05.58 # :) 03.06.13 # maybe it's just the devs 03.06.21 # oh lol 03.06.22 # since they never sleep 03.06.58 # ce la un petit de retardation dans le wps avec les images 03.07.05 # that was english :P 03.07.45 # what, seems a CPU_ARM define is already in place... 03.08.01 # that wasns't french too much ... 03.08.54 # LinusN: hehe it's magic, it works again 03.09.03 # wow! :-) 03.10.22 Join Vladoman [0] (n=Vladoman@p54A7DB50.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.10.45 # do cvs changes appear on the front page before the latest build is finished now? 03.11.34 # no 03.11.38 # :( 03.12.36 # preglow: Did you make any other changes (apart from bootloader/ipod.c and the thread.c bug that amiconn found)? 03.12.49 # It's booting for me, but I don't get the file browser. 03.12.59 # let's see 03.13.24 # I get a flashing battery icon and the splash logo is still there in its entirety. 03.13.45 # reboot... 03.13.47 Part amiconn 03.13.58 # linuxstb: you've installed .rockbox dir, i take it? 03.14.14 # Yes, I did a "make zip" followed by unzip 03.14.22 # and timid, i know my french sucks, trying to play along thats all 03.15.01 # pinkutank: what were you trying to say ? 03.15.08 # could someone help me locate the 1.28 korean H300 firmware? 03.15.25 # ermm there is a bit of delay in wpss with images 03.15.29 # because the words are definatly french, but in wrong order 03.15.38 # linuxstb: i always get the dir browser here 03.15.58 # oh 03.16.07 # acev les images dans les wps 03.16.09 # ? 03.16.17 # with the images in the wps 03.16.32 # the starting of the sentence now :) 03.16.35 # linuxstb: and no, i can't see any further changes 03.16.51 # "ce la un petit de retardation" << makes no sense :( 03.16.59 # retardation petit ? 03.17.07 # ce sa ? 03.17.13 # ce sont 03.17.14 # retardation is not a frecnh word 03.17.16 # ? 03.17.31 # I was just using hte above one 03.17.35 # think of it as retard 03.17.45 # un petit de retard 03.17.53 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@p54BD783C.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.18.04 # retard cour? 03.18.19 # "wps has a small delay with images" ? 03.18.29 # was this the meaning ? 03.18.31 # kind of thing , i guess 03.18.40 # I wasnt trying to mean anything really 03.18.48 # we're going to need a #rockbox-lang-discussion some time in the future ;) 03.19.06 # that was the first setence that came in my mind 03.19.13 # sorry preglow 03.19.20 # but I don't get the meaning 03.19.21 # no worries 03.19.28 # fuck you preglow ^^ 03.19.40 # i love you too 03.19.52 # i wasnt trying to mean anything, I just translated as quick as I could and that came out 03.19.58 # we will need a #rockbox-asembly-addict for you amiconn linuxstb, ... 03.20.01 # let's hope his irq code works now 03.20.07 # :) 03.20.28 # pinkutank: but what did you translate ? 03.20.37 # i'm not trying to be a meanie, i love discussing languages myself 03.20.50 # hehe just kidding :) 03.22.22 Join solexx_ [0] (n=jrschulz@c187199.adsl.hansenet.de) 03.23.37 # hmm, don't know if i want this code in crt0.S 03.24.11 # ermm 03.24.33 # there is a little delay in wpss with images 03.24.42 # meaning the images were delayed 03.24.45 # not the wps 03.24.45 # hmm 03.24.48 # ok 03.24.51 Join Kyl3 [0] (i=Kyle@cpe-24-90-232-130.nyc.res.rr.com) 03.24.56 # is there any point to the splash on the nano? i barely even have time to see it 03.25.09 # Il y a un petit temps de retard avec les images dnas le wps 03.25.15 # btw there is no deay with images 03.25.21 # ohhh of cours il y a 03.25.24 # dans 03.25.29 # :) 03.25.30 # ok 03.25.40 # i knew something was wrong but couldnt remember 03.25.59 Quit Vlad0man (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.26.02 # and the least i know was wrong anyway 03.26.34 # ok 03.26.37 # have to sleep 03.26.44 # my english is going down with me too 03.26.52 # I meant to say rest, it came out least 03.27.12 # knows are getting confused with nows with no apparent reason 03.27.21 # You would have said "il y a" I would have understood 03.28.22 # j'aime jouer au football... 03.28.42 # pas moi :p 03.28.47 # hmm... what other french can i remember from my gcse's 3 years ago :s 03.28.53 # not me? 03.28.56 # any windows users here? 03.28.57 # yep 03.29.00 # i need help 03.29.01 # LinusN: yep 03.29.01 # me 03.29.06 # ahh, forget me, i'm in linux 03.29.08 # ok LinusN 03.29.12 # http://service.iriver.co.kr/qk_pds_ok.asp?path=1&idx=493&p_name=H320 03.29.22 # it unzips an exe file 03.29.28 # downloading now 03.29.49 # i assume the exe file is a self-extracting archive 03.29.55 # the bundles wps are cery cute 03.30.06 # i like iamp 03.30.08 # I never noticed since I never look at the screen 03.30.14 # dunno why the file was called *.zip, 03.30.19 # with a comma on the end 03.30.24 # silly koreans 03.30.31 # korean ... 03.30.33 # TiMiD: yet you're the guy working on the gui code ;) 03.30.37 # lol 03.30.40 # hehe 03.30.50 # LinusN, no its not a self extracting zip file 03.30.52 # I know where my files are so I don't need the screen ;) 03.30.52 # its a program 03.31.07 # You guys had my hopes up. I thought that was 1.29 03.31.11 # hshah: ah yes 03.31.35 # select a location to install it to and it will put H300.hex there 03.32.14 # Do you guys like song rating on your wpss 03.32.21 # iAmp is indeed very cute :) 03.32.25 # www.warwickforums.co.uk/see.jpg 03.32.31 # ^ see that LinusN 03.32.43 # 404 03.33.08 # http://www.warwickforums.co.uk/see.JPG 03.33.13 # silly windows file naming... 03.33.16 # hehe I guess it was only for LinusN 03.33.22 # yeah it was 03.33.23 # click upgrade 03.33.26 Quit solexx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.33.33 # upgrade success 03.33.44 # welcome to the land of misleading 03.33.45 # H300.hex 03.33.47 # got that file 03.33.53 # good 03.33.54 # u want me to upload it somewhere for u? 03.33.59 # yes please 03.35.01 # where can i get i amp 03.35.39 # www.warwickforums.co.uk/H300.hex 03.36.00 # got it 03.36.46 # hshah: thanks a lot 03.36.52 # nps mate 03.37.08 Join toolmanwill [0] (n=46102cd2@labb.contactor.se) 03.37.19 # hehe it's fun to look at my work on the real device 03.37.36 # I will test more often from now :) 03.38.01 # @TiMiD : I tried the reset settings option and it didnt work, thats why i had to go thru that flashing orgy 03.38.14 # owwwww 03.38.40 # strange ^^ 03.38.42 # its all good now tho, i updated to latest bleeding with no probs now 03.39.18 # "I must have been ON crack" <---- LOL 03.40.16 # do you guys want song rating on wpss? 03.40.26 # and do you want the khz and bitrate value? 03.40.34 # i wudn't 03.40.42 # I want a more cute rwps :) 03.40.51 # hello kitty wps 03.41.05 # i hate it when my wps does font doesn't work too well on my rwps... 03.41.35 # hshah: oneday we will have separate fonts settings for main and remote screen 03.41.45 # yeah :) 03.41.50 # that would be great 03.41.51 # but remote support is just beginning 03.42.16 # the main thing for me is that my remote now shows the track and file tree 03.42.27 # i don't really mind atm that its not as nice as my wps 03.42.29 # for me the most important was the filetree 03.42.45 # yeah, that too, coz i know what most of my songs are called 03.43.14 # wps is also important, bunt when if you use earphones you should be able to know what is playing ;) 03.43.16 # plus the patches made earlier were getting out of date so quickly i got tired of them... lol 03.43.19 # what kind of a cutw wps do you want 03.43.27 # mine is definitely not cute 03.43.29 # but 03.43.37 # www.warwickforums.co.uk/hshah_dump.bmp 03.43.42 # I can make one that songs scrtoll thru a grinning monkeys mouth 03.43.51 # www.warwickforums.co.uk/hshah_dump2.bmp 03.43.54 # pinkutank: a nude korean girl dancing in 3D on the rwps would be nice 03.44.06 # thats my wps 03.44.08 # thats cute? thats minimalist yes, 50 cent cant be cute no 03.44.24 # minimalist is good too 03.44.26 # i like mine simple but effective 03.44.28 # timid I can do that if you want 03.44.41 # but it wont be interactive 03.44.45 # it would just dance 03.44.54 # as long as you played 03.45.26 # t0mas was working on a plugin that wud make the backlight flash to the beat of the music... this was a few months back... anyone know what happened to that... 03.45.34 # i haven't seen him online in a while 03.45.42 # hmm then I think I will have to take a real girl for that :( 03.45.49 # easy, just creat bmps of the girl, put them under alternating lines with small seconds, and put that in a playback state conditional and youre done 03.46.07 # what about a naked hello kitty ? 03.46.13 # i wouldn't mind a similar screen saver for my wps... 03.46.39 # which, you mean the naked kitty right :P :) 03.46.57 # im hoping my wps will make it to cvs, but i think its too plain and boring for that... :( 03.47.06 # nah - i meant the naked girl... 03.47.09 # I'm building one thatll make cvs 03.47.10 # kitty would be good as well 03.47.19 # kitty is easy 03.47.28 # girl is theoratically ieasy 03.47.28 # but 03.47.29 # a random question... how do u guys say my name? 03.47.38 # naked kitty is for l33t wps 03.47.39 # monochrome humans are not worth seeing 03.47.55 Join DJDD_ [0] (n=DJDD@220-245-186-182.static.tpgi.com.au) 03.48.05 # hshah: hshah I guess 03.48.05 # hsha: we dont? 03.48.23 # i mean if u were to say it out aloud 03.48.37 # i wud say TiMiD as if i was saying the word timid 03.48.39 # HSHAH 03.48.48 # (loud) 03.48.52 # need it in phonetics... 03.49.39 # how would you pronounce ã™ãã„ã„ã„ 03.49.42 # ? 03.49.43 # ? 03.49.46 # ? 03.49.50 # lol 03.49.51 # all i see is squares? 03.49.56 # hehe 03.50.13 # I need it in phonetics and hexadecimal 03.50.35 # for example, LinusN - i would say it as Linus N 03.50.40 # eightchasseightah 03.50.41 # saying the N as the letter N 03.51.09 # eightchasseighchah 03.51.15 # hshah: I hope I willnever have to tell you rname then :) 03.51.17 # somthing like hsah 03.51.43 # at last... someone does what i ask :p 03.51.44 # the guy with the weird name,, 03.51.48 # hushah 03.51.56 # as in 03.51.57 # husher 03.51.58 # but 03.52.05 # 1337 03.52.11 # i was just curious coz no one has guessed what its meant to be 03.52.12 # H Shah 03.52.18 # Hiren Shah 03.52.38 # the H is meant to be separate 03.52.41 # so its Shah 03.52.46 # H Shah 03.52.55 # isnt he from new delhi 03.53.10 # well im indian, if that makes any difference :p 03.53.21 # http://www5.big.or.jp/~otake/hey/kanji/gifmoji/f6/ichigo.gif < its your real name 03.53.25 # ? 03.53.32 # but was born in the UK 03.53.33 # i thought it was a writer 03.53.35 # Hiren Shah? 03.53.36 # flower + mother gives strawberry 03.53.39 # yeah - thats my name 03.53.40 # strange isn't it 03.53.51 # yes 03.53.58 # hows the park kanji in japanese 03.54.27 # in chinese characters, its like two horses under a stable 03.54.31 # TiMiD: How can I access the WPS context menu in the remote? 03.54.51 # XavierGr: I don't know, it's not my patch 03.55.02 # ? 03.55.12 # wps is firefly's work 03.55.15 # patch? You mean that it isn't supported? 03.55.18 # ah 03.55.20 # yes 03.55.22 # you are right 03.55.28 # I guess you can't 03.55.35 # I looked up chinese carpark 03.55.36 # http://www.solarman.bird.to/contortion/hira01a/Images/p00001t00046.jpg 03.55.39 # pinkutank: you are chinese ? 03.55.39 # this came up 03.55.45 # also did you thought about remote options? 03.55.46 # no Im Turkish 03.56.09 # some can be the same but others definitely can't 03.56.11 # pinkutank: sukebei ^^ 03.56.51 # XavierGr: I didn't found the time, even if it's a small patch 03.57.09 # sukebei? 03.57.13 # np, just thought that some options can't be the same 03.57.19 # lech 03.57.36 # isnt it sukebe 03.58.13 # no 03.58.16 # sukebei 03.58.20 # oh 03.58.25 # sukebei is a kanji 03.58.26 # i see 03.58.28 # LinusN, are you around? 03.58.32 # thought hiro, sorry 03.59.08 # ermm 03.59.11 # what does it mean 03.59.15 # sukebei is not a kanji 03.59.21 # it's written with 2 kanjis 03.59.26 # it means lech 03.59.43 # Febs: yes 03.59.47 # lubrique in french 04.00.37 # oh 04.00.38 # lol 04.00.49 # I didnt doo anything 04.00.54 # it was googles fault 04.01.00 # your picture was :) 04.01.08 # yes google can be :) 04.01.24 # google came up with that when I serached for chinese park 04.01.25 # :D 04.01.36 # i gotta brush my teeth and sleep 04.01.44 # i killed my sleep schedule 04.01.53 # not its 5am-12p 04.01.53 # m 04.01.58 # in the meantime 04.02.00 # tellme 04.02.25 Join lamed [0] (n=554173c1@labb.contactor.se) 04.02.27 # Which H300 firmware version are you using for the bootloader patcher? 04.02.27 # if you guys want, song rating, birate, khz, on your wps 04.02.42 # i've killed my poor old mouse. 04.02.52 # pinkutank: I want yes :) 04.02.53 # ??how 04.03.02 # Febs: 1.28 04.03.04 # you want all of them 04.03.17 # * Febs Febs wonders why LinusN is still awake. 04.03.20 # i mean im buildng a wps, would you want them on there? 04.03.21 # me too 04.03.23 # It's what, 4AM there? 04.03.28 # yup 04.03.36 # all of them? 04.03.37 # i'll regret this tomorrow :-) 04.03.38 # I want a dancing marmot ont my remote wps 04.03.39 # 3am here :) 04.03.44 # No doubt. 04.03.56 # ok timid 04.04.00 # maybe tomorrow night 04.04.02 # * LinusN just installed h300 bootloader v1 on his h320 04.04.03 # :) 04.04.04 # i can get it 04.04.09 # :) 04.04.11 # Nice. 04.04.18 # LinusN: congratulation again 04.04.28 # and v6 on his h120 and h110 04.04.36 # Also nice. 04.04.43 # seemslike mine is going to show everything 04.04.44 # When is it going to be released? 04.04.46 # LinusN: oh I have a request for H1x0 bootloader 04.04.49 # * Febs Febs runs and ducks. 04.05.00 # can someone do a patch that can limit scrollnig wps fields by margins 04.05.00 # * preglow doles out applause 04.05.04 # would it be possible to disable some ata tests on it ? 04.05.04 # Grrr. I need to remember the /me format. 04.05.26 # v6 eh? 04.05.30 # because standards bootloader made my player do an ata error -42 04.05.44 # a small request - wud it be possible to change the text to "Bootloader USB Mode" 04.05.50 # with a capital M 04.05.58 # :) 04.05.59 # * preglow finds out what time it is 04.06.20 # I think 04.06.52 # B007L00D/\H USB M0D3 04.06.58 # would be better :P 04.07.03 # erm... 04.07.06 # no 04.07.18 # joudan joudan 04.07.22 # i hate leet speech 04.07.29 # why dont you change it yourself 04.07.38 # i changed the "Shutting down..." to "Shutting Down..." myself... but this is something i can't change myself easily 04.07.40 # also, how about making line selector reverse as default since nezrly 80% of the users want it that way ? 04.08.09 # that gets my vote 04.08.20 # mine too, but doesnt matter much 04.08.22 # at least default ... 04.09.12 # hshah, why cant you do it 04.09.17 # i did it 04.09.22 # LinusN: putting interrupt setup code in crt0.S isn't a big nono, i hope? 04.09.30 # LinusN, advised me not to mess around with the bootloader... 04.09.48 # preglow: why there? 04.09.50 # line 319 04.09.52 Quit Kyl3 () 04.09.53 # just a mere cap 04.11.14 Quit pinkutank (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.11.24 # if I change "{1, S_O(invert_cursor), false, "invert cursor", off_on }" to "{1, S_O(invert_cursor), true, "invert cursor", off_on }", will I get killed ? 04.11.50 # LinusN: just seems simpler, i need to write a set of instructions and addresses to address 0 04.12.07 # LinusN: so i'll just put the assembler code i want to write there in crt0.S, together with code for copying it there 04.12.11 # preglow: do as you feel is KISS 04.12.13 # i gues this could easily be done in system.c as well 04.12.29 # i'll just do the crt0.S approach for now 04.12.57 # I'm itching to commit this 04.14.53 # well if ur gonna do that, you may as well commit the tree/root to wps patch... you can only get killed once :p 04.15.57 # hehe you know there are several ways to die ;) 04.16.04 # I prefer a quick die 04.16.21 # but for that they will take their time I guess 04.16.33 # ahh well, rather you than me :p 04.18.02 # commited :) 04.18.22 # * hshah sharpens the blade 04.18.42 # wait I make my testament 04.19.14 # btw, what did u change? 04.19.19 # lol 04.19.37 # invert cursor is default now 04.19.47 # oh rite... 04.19.49 # but no, i think i need to get some sleep now 04.19.51 # laters, all 04.19.56 # good night 04.19.59 # * hshah whacks the blade on a stone 04.20.07 # i have it on inverse anyway 04.20.18 # lol 04.20.30 # gd nite mate 04.20.30 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-123-108.VIC.netspace.net.au) 04.21.15 # hmm 04.22.00 # would it be possible to make a wps that handles putting the album name first when the playing track is a soundtrack 04.22.03 # ? 04.23.08 # anything is possible ;) 04.23.41 # Linus: Glad that you changed the scanning of rockbox.target to the .rockbox filder instead of the route. 04.24.22 Join Zoom2 [0] (n=41080319@labb.contactor.se) 04.24.51 Quit Paul_The_Nerd ("Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.7/20050915]") 04.24.57 Join Midgey34 [0] (n=Midgey34@c-67-172-68-52.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 04.26.11 Join San [0] (n=Test@A-78-186.cust.iol.ie) 04.27.55 # ok, bootloader v6 for H1xx is out 04.28.03 # and bootloader v1 for H3xx 04.28.13 # ZERG RUSH! 04.28.19 # heh 04.28.25 # LinusN: what about the ata error -42 ? 04.28.27 # w0000t! 04.28.34 # ashridah: ahahahahah 04.28.39 # TiMiD: the what? 04.29.06 # I can't use a standard bootloade because of that 04.29.20 # refresh my memory 04.29.47 # ah, the register test, right? 04.29.54 # no 04.30.01 # it was a long time ago 04.30.09 # maybe in mars last year 04.30.50 # I was able to install rockbox only in august of this year since you made a custom bootloader for a guy on the forum 04.31.05 # who gets his player into water 04.31.18 # you removed a ata register test 04.31.29 # yes register test :) 04.31.32 # :-) 04.31.45 # * ashridah hands TiMiD the cookie of details 04.32.10 # I never plunged mineinto water though 04.33.18 # nice, if someone manages to do a null pointer write on arm, the reset vector gets overwritten 04.33.36 # well, can't exactly call it a vector, since it's an instruction, but... 04.34.00 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=688.0 04.34.08 # preglow: ahaha. 04.35.05 Quit joshn ("KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'") 04.36.11 # Is the new fwpatcher only for H100v6 or does it include H300v1? 04.36.52 # both 04.36.56 # apparently 04.37.23 # LinusN: I use this bootloader : http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=1227.0 04.38.09 # ok, it was -32 04.38.22 # i can make a boot loader for you 04.38.25 # tomoreow 04.38.29 # gotta sleep now 04.39.07 # nite all 04.39.07 # maybe put this into cvs 04.39.14 Part LinusN 04.39.29 # * ashridah idly wonders if any foolish H3x0 users will jump the gun. 04.40.07 # * Febs is very tempted. 04.40.14 # Febs: coward! 04.40.28 # well, don't get me wrong, i'd do it too, but i'm a little more experienced :) 04.40.52 # ashridah: coward! 04.40.58 # i just get the feeling that H3x0 users seem to believe that the bootloader is all that's necessary for an immediately working rockbox on H3x0 :) 04.41.13 # preglow: coward? i don't have one. can't install on what i don't have 04.41.23 # * ashridah is about to patch his H140 up to v6 tho 04.41.25 # irrelevant! install it on your h140 04.41.28 # so is bootloader v6 released? 04.41.32 # I'm debating installing it even though there's no sound 04.41.41 # Random question: Has the 'fade out' been implanted in the sleep timer yet? 04.41.56 # ashridah: well, ok, I *do* know how to install RB. 04.42.03 # hshah: for H120/140 sure. 3x0 has a v1 bootloader, which is only recommended for developers. 04.42.17 # yeah, ive got a h120 04.42.20 # i'd let some developers be the first lemmings :) 04.42.23 # whats the diff between v5 and v6 04.42.23 # nice, i'm left with an ipod that can't be switched off 04.42.38 # hshah: there's a changelog on http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot 04.45.16 # i think i run bootloader v2 04.46.32 # lol 04.46.46 # i think its bed time for me too now 04.48.31 # gnite 04.49.05 # think i'll wait until i'll be sure v6 is stable... probably it is. 04.49.14 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.49.25 Part Midgey34 04.50.04 # well. v6 worked with 1.65-US here on my H140 04.50.39 Quit Addam (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04.51.15 # hehe 04.51.25 # I am going to upgrade right now 04.51.48 # no more rockbox.iriver on the route folder 04.52.03 # root. 04.52.08 # route's something else :) 04.52.25 Join Midgey34 [0] (n=Midgey34@c-67-172-68-52.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 04.52.28 # ah yes 04.52.36 # my mind got stuck on the word 04.53.28 # man, i haven't booted into the iriver firmware in ages 04.57.33 Quit Midgey34 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.59.25 Quit lamed ("CGI:IRC") 05.01.00 Join stinkbud [0] (n=me@ool-457b2349.dyn.optonline.net) 05.01.21 # congrate folks on the h300 bootloader and thanks!!! 05.01.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.01.47 # that being said, i will not otuch it with a ten foot pole... not yet :) 05.02.01 Join Midgey34 [0] (n=Midgey34@c-67-172-68-52.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 05.04.00 Quit stinkbud (Client Quit) 05.04.34 Quit ashridah (Remote closed the connection) 05.04.34 Join Lost-ash [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-123-108.VIC.netspace.net.au) 05.05.17 Nick Lost-ash is now known as ashridah (i=ashridah@220-253-123-108.VIC.netspace.net.au) 05.16.48 Join Kyl3 [0] (i=Kyle@cpe-24-90-232-130.nyc.res.rr.com) 05.17.35 # Bah !! Rockbox wont boot! 05.18.17 # Won't boot on what? 05.18.39 # my H340... the original firmware works 05.18.51 # but just so you guys know 05.19.03 # How did you boot to the original firmware? 05.19.44 # Kyl3: you installed the patched h300.hex with the new bootloader? 05.20.01 # it says: Rockbox bootloader Version 1 Batt 3.93V loading firmware result:-1 05.20.06 # then it shuts down 05.20.16 # Migey:Yes 05.20.18 # That's because you don't have a Rockbox build on the player. 05.20.22 # Febs: Hold record 05.20.45 # well its good to know the bootloader works correctly 05.20.56 # and like febs said, you need a rockbox build on the player 05.21.01 # Yeah it works 05.21.20 # right now it can't find the rockbox files so it boot the original firmware 05.21.29 # And of course, the H300 build is not yet available on the Daily Build page. 05.21.34 # no itll shutdown 05.21.44 # then u gotta reboot to origial 05.21.54 # its coming soon tho right 05.22.35 # I am sure that it will be available once the bootloader is tested. 05.22.37 # Febs: the data is build, there's just no link 05.22.39 # http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-h300/rockbox.zip 05.22.48 # that should work 05.23.06 # YES ty 05.23.14 # no problem 05.23.33 # what do i do with it 05.23.52 # copy it to the root directory of the player 05.24.02 # well extract it first 05.24.16 # then upgrade fw? 05.24.38 # no 05.24.42 # it should boot now 05.24.48 # you already have the bootloader 05.24.50 # ok wait 05.24.54 # you're just missing the data 05.25.13 # oh sec, I'm going to book into windows 05.25.21 # k 05.25.23 Quit Midgey34 ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") 05.26.13 # Kyl3: the bootloader just installs a small amoutn of code in the iriver flash rom in order to have it load rockbox proper from the hard drive 05.26.39 # it works 05.26.50 # the iriver standard firmware doesn't load any part of itself from disk normally, so the rockbox team had to write one themselves, and that's why you patched it into iriver's firmware 05.27.34 # Yay it works 05.27.41 # now to mess around 05.27.56 Join Midgey34 [0] (n=Midgey34@c-67-172-68-52.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 05.27.56 Join ModernExecutive [0] (n=bob@pool-207-68-59-126.norf.east.verizon.net) 05.27.56 Quit ModernExecutive (Client Quit) 05.27.57 # Kyl3: do you have a wiki account? 05.28.05 # No I'll make one 05.28.14 # why? should I confirm it works 05.28.24 # if you don't, you might want to create one, and edit the IriverBoot page to add a tick and your name like i have for one of the H140 targets 05.28.33 # Migey: IT WOKS!! lol 05.28.36 Join ModernExecutive [0] (n=bob@pool-207-68-59-126.norf.east.verizon.net) 05.28.37 # well, you appear to have been one of the first lemmings :) 05.28.40 # awesome 05.28.44 # Hello 05.28.45 # I'll do it. 05.30.49 # Im'ma test Rockboy 05.31.02 # Kyl3: are you using 1.28eu or k? 05.31.06 Quit toolmanwill ("CGI:IRC") 05.31.11 # k 05.31.17 # alright 05.31.21 # mines upgrading 05.31.21 # its a US player 05.31.28 # success 05.31.35 # we giving out a bootloader here? 05.31.41 # wow that text is really small 05.31.52 # yes 05.31.59 # neat-o 05.32.13 # Febs: I updated the wiki 05.33.04 # peak meters work 05.33.08 # I see. I tried and you had it in edit lock. 05.33.08 # obviously no sound 05.33.17 # oh sorry about that 05.35.49 # its buggy as hell 05.36.14 # That's why it's listed as being for developers only. 05.36.29 # Kyl3: that it is 05.36.40 # the screen turns of every 4 seconds 05.36.42 # Kyl3: on the plus side, while it's buggy, the existence of the bootloader vastly increases the developer pool 05.37.16 # yes 05.37.20 # You can change the screen timeout. 05.37.56 # hmm, the bootloader makes it so the clock doesn't show on iriver firmware,can I assume that's because linus hasn't added rtc code to the bootloader yet? 05.39.07 # I claim the first H300 crash! 05.39.10 # Midgey34: that's a fair assumption, but keep in mind i have no idea how the H3x0 handles that 05.41.38 # You can change the screen timeout. <- where 05.41.56 # just ran a quick test. everything else on the iriver firmware works as it previously did 05.42.03 # no surprise there 05.42.04 # this is exciting 05.42.13 # I cannot start the iriver firmware by pressing REC PLAY. 05.42.32 # Febs: you're holding them both? 05.42.39 # Yes. 05.42.59 # Whoops. No. 05.43.26 # I was holding REC while doing a short press of PLAY (which is how it works on the H100). 05.43.35 # I want to see what will happen on an Int H300 version 05.43.55 # u got one? 05.44.06 # no 05.44.10 # just wondering 05.44.51 # Kyl3, regarding backlight: A-B --> General Settings -> Display -> Backlight. 05.44.51 # Okay I'm about to test out Rockboy 05.45.02 # Also: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ManualMainMenu#Backlight 05.45.35 # That online manual is well worth reading if you want to understand Rockbox's features. 05.45.37 # it's funny, on the H300 sim, only remote is working ^^ 05.45.42 # its not there 05.45.59 # Kyl3, you are the king of ambiguous prepositions. 05.46.00 # omg 05.46.13 # Kyl3: 05.46.15 # .... h300 lcd remote works 05.46.17 # oops 05.46.19 # yah 05.46.21 # prepositions=pronouns. 05.46.35 # thanks 05.46.58 Join Gibbed [0] (i=rick@pool-71-108-9-40.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 05.47.00 Quit Rick (Nick collision from services.) 05.47.02 # when i press AB 05.47.09 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-71-108-9-40.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 05.47.11 # hit A-B, General Settings, display,lcd settings, backlight 05.47.13 # I see settings for repeat and suffle 05.47.18 # then hit up and down to change it 05.47.27 # short hit, not long 05.47.38 # oh i got it 05.48.39 Join webguest75 [0] (n=dcfd62c5@labb.contactor.se) 05.48.52 # time to reset 05.49.11 # hmm nevermind 05.51.18 # i need to.. 05.51.27 # mine fixed itself... 05.53.14 # oh noes. 05.53.22 # mine wont reset 05.55.31 # ok 05.55.34 # it did 05.55.36 # phew 05.56.53 # what were you doing wrong? 05.56.58 # it freezes at the wps.. 05.57.13 # i cant see the directory structure 05.57.51 # i see a battery, a "volume" looking thing. and a stop sign 05.58.31 # aha] 05.58.33 # got it 05.59.12 # rockboy works 05.59.35 # it doesnt for me=( 05.59.44 # what happens 05.59.51 # maybe I should try updating to the latest patch 05.59.57 # nothing it jsut doesnt load 06.00.01 # I am wondering if it is my mods or what 06.00.26 # Id tell you more in detail, but I dont have my player with me ATM 06.00.50 # has it always worked for you, or just in the latest patch? 06.01.15 # theres a new patch already 06.01.45 # im trying it now first time 06.02.43 # ok.. ROCKboy starts the ROM 06.02.51 # Play is A/Start 06.03.15 # the navi keys dont act as up/down/left/right 06.03.22 # they dont work.. 06.03.36 # =( 06.03.51 # stop is pause and when i press AB (settings) it frezzes 06.04.10 Join DMJC [0] (n=DMJC@220-245-163-220-sa-nt-pppoe.tpgi.com.au) 06.05.26 # brb 06.06.34 # Kyl3: keep in mind that rockboy was never really finished for the H120, and it will need work for the H3x0 for button mapping 06.06.49 # amoungst other things 06.07.09 # yea 06.07.23 # but lets get nusic playing first 06.07.48 # music* 06.08.48 # 4-5s boot time tho 06.13.30 # iPod theme makes text bigger 06.17.06 # themes can change to a different font 06.18.20 # playing snake 06.18.28 Join FingerSoup [0] (i=icechat5@S010600508df503dc.vs.shawcable.net) 06.21.36 Quit FingerSoup (Client Quit) 06.21.57 Nick webguest75 is now known as andrewmelreal (n=dcfd62c5@labb.contactor.se) 06.22.33 Join Membrillo [0] (n=3ce41a60@labb.contactor.se) 06.25.29 Join newnick [0] (n=3ce41a60@labb.contactor.se) 06.25.30 Quit Membrillo (Client Quit) 06.25.47 Nick newnick is now known as I (n=3ce41a60@labb.contactor.se) 06.26.23 Join Annsa [0] (n=3ce41a60@labb.contactor.se) 06.26.23 Quit I (Client Quit) 06.26.47 # so.... whose tried out the H3xx Bootloader? 06.26.52 # me 06.26.53 Quit Zoom2 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 06.27.09 # I have as well 06.27.19 # i read it was just experimental so im feeling edgy about trying it 06.27.41 # how do i get back to the manage plugins screen 06.27.59 # hit stop? 06.28.13 Join San [0] (n=Test@213-202-154-61.bas503.dsl.esat.net) 06.28.15 # I hit reset 06.28.20 # hah 06.28.22 # san it works! 06.29.00 # Annsa: its hardly at a usable state. Still very glitchy, however it is nice to see the Rockbox logo show up and test some plugins 06.29.14 # i got it 06.30.05 # I think ill just sit tight till a stable release comes out. very exciting though! 06.31.31 # ive found the bootloader, but where do you actually get the rockbox build for h3xx? 06.32.28 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@58.77.81.75) 06.32.49 # those who dont know what they are doing should exercise care here... 06.32.56 # ill make one now 06.32.58 Quit andrewmelreal ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 06.32.58 Quit Annsa ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 06.32.58 Quit Febs ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 06.33.55 # i have a like 06.33.58 # nk* 06.34.05 # Annsa: the daily build link isn't available, but it's built: http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-h300/rockbox.zip 06.34.16 # it'll get a link on the page eventually. 06.34.26 # and yes, i wouldn't recommend trying it until it does useful things 06.34.43 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-149-149-197.bna.bellsouth.net) 06.34.46 Join Annsa [0] (n=3ce41a60@labb.contactor.se) 06.35.27 # i can play snake on the bus now 06.35.27 # lol 06.35.52 Join webguest75 [0] (n=dcfd62c5@labb.contactor.se) 06.36.38 # So what does the current build let you do kyl3? 06.37.18 # Annsa: not a lot. no music playback. most plugins won't work that well, due to key mapping issues. 06.37.23 Join Febs [0] (n=cfac7a51@labb.contactor.se) 06.38.10 Quit Febs (Client Quit) 06.38.50 # it won't be too long before you guys are enjoying it though 06.38.50 Join Drumrboy247 [0] (n=44c20ff1@labb.contactor.se) 06.38.53 # once you do it's great 06.39.01 # as the bootloader works fine, more developers will be able to chip in though right? 06.39.14 # yep 06.39.16 # or doesnt the bootloader work fine 06.39.26 # if the bootloader boots it works 06.39.49 # thats logical 06.39.56 Join sango [0] (i=sango@r68h126.res.gatech.edu) 06.39.56 # Hello everybody 06.40.35 # now i'm no dev 06.40.48 # but i'd say quite a bit of stuff will transfer from the H1xx to the H3xx 06.40.53 # due to them having the same CPU 06.41.04 # that being said the bootloader is a milestone :) 06.41.14 # awesome 06.41.24 # yep 06.41.30 # * DreamTactix291 is a happy H140 Rockbox user 06.41.33 # so, what wont be able to be directly taken from the h1xx? 06.41.45 # LCD stuff 06.41.47 # well, as most parts minus the optical capabilities etc are the same, the amt of time to just port rather than do from scratch will be much less 06.41.48 # USBOTG stuff 06.41.55 # yea 06.41.56 # that too 06.41.58 # ah 06.42.00 # video stuff 06.42.12 # well. i wouldnt put USBOTG as a high priority yet 06.42.18 # i would kill (not really) for 15 FPs 06.42.37 # Annsa: it's probably not 06.42.50 # but now that other devs can boot rockbox on an H3xx it'll move faster 06.42.51 # stupid question: can rockbox overclock the h3x0's cpu to get a faster framerate? 06.42.52 # depends, whats the refresh rate of the LCDs. if its only 10hz then you wont get anything higher than 10fps 06.43.08 # i think it's a limit of the LCD 06.43.12 # more than anything 06.43.16 # i could be wrong 06.43.33 # good to see you, dt 06.43.33 # yeah ^^^ thats what i was thinking. im pretty sure its a refresh rate problem 06.43.39 Join andrewmel [0] (n=andrewme@220-253-98-197.TAS.netspace.net.au) 06.43.52 # since the processor is the same in both the h100 and the h300 hypotheticaly capable of video? 06.44.10 # wait i meant, isnt the h100 capable... 06.44.11 # the h100, drumrboy? 06.44.11 # if the H1xx had a colour screen it could do video 06.44.27 # maybe it could do videos encoded to grayscale? 06.44.28 # well, is the greyscale screen capable? 06.44.43 # yeah, like in ipodlinux. they have grayscale video working 06.44.51 # my thoughts exactly 06.44.53 # yeah but i wouldn't want to watch it 06.44.56 # :P 06.44.58 # DreamTactix291: capable yes, but i suspect it's got a poorer potential framerate than the colour lcd on the H3x0 06.44.59 # lol 06.45.09 # ahh, true true 06.45.12 # yeah the H1xx LCD is slow 06.45.18 # you can tell from looking at the peak meters 06.45.28 # well, i saw some grayscale video on my friends ipod and it was suprisinlgly good considering 06.45.53 # well i got an iriver PMP-120 for $199.99 so I'll use it for video 06.46.03 # nice catch 06.46.04 # you see they have doom/video on the nano?? thats insanely small ... too small... to be functional 06.46.33 # 45% of all nanos have had to be taken back in though because of dodgy breakable screens 06.46.41 # rofl 06.46.46 # before or after they were run over by cars? 06.46.48 # cheap build quality 06.47.07 # i was once an ipod owner *shame on me* but when the screen shattered for no reason i bought my h3xx 06.47.35 # well, bad front cover material which allowed for depression direct on the LCD, and its just so tiny 06.47.38 # ipod is not too bad, it does somethings better out of box then the iriver. 06.47.38 Join Midgey31 [0] (n=Midgey34@c-67-172-68-52.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 06.47.43 # my first DAP was an H120 06.47.49 # then i got an H140 and gave my girl the H120 06.47.58 # my first DAP was an h320 06.48.00 # but the ipod and iriver h300 series target different markets 06.48.06 # i went from cd to md to h320 06.48.08 # most def 06.48.33 # yeah, well the reason i love irivers is you can organise your files how you want rather than automatically categorised by ID3 tags 06.48.34 # i'm probably going to have an H180 one day 06.48.40 # i like that too 06.48.44 # my filetree is very well organised 06.48.53 # because ~80% of my stuff is my own rips 06.48.55 # i have my tree the way I like it 06.48.56 # well, i guess if your sayin all that, i went from CD to MP3 CD to P{alm pilot with 256 Mb to palm pilot 1Gb to h320 06.49.10 # alphabetical, by song title. 06.49.12 # yeah, it sucked with compilation cds because they would add like 15 artists to my artist list 06.49.16 # pretty easily accessible 06.49.19 # i originally got my H120 large for its Vorbis support 06.49.24 # since my library was in Vorbis at the time 06.49.35 # now it's in WavPack and i transcode to Vorbis with foobar2000 for it 06.49.40 Quit webguest75 ("CGI:IRC") 06.49.45 # mine is alphabetical by artsts letter, then album and finally track 06.49.48 # i <3 foobar 06.49.55 # me too :) 06.49.58 # same 06.50.07 # mine is genre/artist/album/## title.ext 06.50.10 # imo its a perfect low processor minimalist audio player 06.50.12 # although i have tracknumber. trackname 06.50.16 # I do albums by year. otherwise the same as sango 06.50.28 # no frills, just plays MP3's and very well might i add 06.50.36 # DreamT, but that sucks for crossgenre music 06.50.38 # i have a fairly minimalist WPS for my H140 06.51.05 # http://www.rhythmplanetno1.com/hosted/dump_0001.png 06.51.13 # i KNOW you must see your stats, such as KHz and what codec? 06.51.20 # question: what is it that makes the iriver sound better than the ipod? iriver has the software decoder; does ipod have a HW decoder, or is its software just really inferior? 06.51.33 # knew it 06.51.34 # haha 06.51.36 # also, what is a wps? 06.51.39 # ipod has a software decoder 06.51.42 # shitty sound card in the Ipod 06.51.43 # its ARM CPU decodes 06.51.51 # While Playing Screen 06.52.05 # is WPS 06.52.06 # ModernExecutive: my link i gave is mine 06.52.27 # DT, very nice, BUT wouldnt you prever it centered? 06.52.27 # is there screendump yet? 06.52.34 # my remote WPS is a smaller version of it 06.52.36 # actually 06.52.39 # i tried it all centred 06.52.42 # and i didn't like it as much 06.52.49 # dt what is the foobar in the bottom right of that wps? 06.53.11 # ? 06.53.22 # yes!! otf playlists 06.53.27 # w00t w00t 06.53.35 # gapless? 06.53.39 # i exploited those today at lunch a lot 06.53.39 # Kyl3, thank you for the MR post 06.53.42 # btw 06.53.47 # np 06.54.36 # worth trying yet, or is it completely unusable as of now... it wont play music yet right? 06.54.43 Quit Kyl3 () 06.54.47 # so, can you view pictures on h3xx RB yet? 06.54.49 # @dt, the bottom right of your dump is a bit messed up and I was wondering what was going on 06.55.22 # no, those are the peak metres 06.55.37 # hey... i want screen shots of RB320! 06.55.39 Join Dragon_Fangs [0] (n=chatzill@ip24-56-52-127.ph.ph.cox.net) 06.55.48 # are any available anywhere? 06.55.49 # ahhh!!! 06.56.18 # my remote WPS is like that 06.56.18 # but 06.56.50 # with Arist, Album, Progress Bar, Time Elapsed/Total, and Bitrate + Codec 06.56.52 # :D hi DT!!! 06.56.52 # smaller version 06.57.00 # yo 06.57.38 # * Dragon_Fangs waives to andrewmel 06.57.44 # kyl3, you own a digi camera? could you get some shots of RB on your h3xx? 06.58.13 # kyl3 is gone 06.58.53 # dang 06.59.33 # you guys will love the gaplessness :) 06.59.35 # i promise 06.59.39 # i can't imagine not having it now 07.00.12 # lol, that gapless will halp SOAD's CD's greatly 07.00.19 # help* 07.00.29 # *waves back 07.00.30 # crossfading is what I can't wait to here 07.00.30 # im spoiled as i have been listening in foobar lately 07.00.34 # and like all of my prog music 07.00.46 # most people who don't think gapless is important have never really heard it 07.00.50 # oh and andrew 07.01.00 # you asked about the inherant gap of mp3 in a thread 07.01.04 # it's a very very small blip 07.01.06 Join gursikh [0] (n=gursikh@adsl-68-92-215-18.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 07.01.07 # wont ANY Cd player do gapless? 07.01.08 # but it is noticeable 07.01.13 # Drumrboy247: yes 07.01.23 # when's the party? 07.01.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.01.56 # i'm actually going to do a small clip i have of a live CD i didn't rip 07.01.59 # that shows the inherant gap 07.02.01 # and post it 07.02.02 # hmm, and a CD will go at the highest Bitrate possible? 07.02.15 # like, the bitrate it was recorded ta? 07.02.16 # CD = 1411.2kbps 2 channel 16 bit LPCM 07.02.16 Quit Midgey34 (Connection timed out) 07.02.31 # at 44.1kHz 07.02.53 # so then if your such an audio freak (no offense) why not just get a discman, and call it a day? 07.03.05 # i was saying that 07.03.09 # lol.... here we go.... 07.03.10 # 1/50 isnt noticable 07.03.15 # of a second anyway 07.03.19 # it's more than that 07.03.25 # andrew : haha, great minds eh? 07.03.28 # how much? 07.03.35 # it is usually a quarter 07.03.36 # i'll do that splice for you :) 07.03.39 # and you'll hear 07.03.50 # andrewmel: actually, the human ear is incredibly precise 07.03.52 # well, you'll know its there 07.03.53 # it is noticable 07.03.59 # do you think its possible in RB to have the option to "ignore silence at start and end of track"? 07.04.04 # it's been real, everyone 07.04.05 # take care 07.04.08 # well, not my ears, bein a drummer and all ;) 07.04.18 # and one can train your ear to even detect a note that's slightly out of tune on an instrument. 07.04.23 # since i started playing clarinet 07.04.24 # Annsa: with LAME encodes it does it automatically 07.04.24 # Bye modern 07.04.27 # my ears have improved 07.04.34 # lots 07.04.41 # andrew: http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=13779&highlight=gap+test 07.04.45 # but my thumb hurts:) 07.04.52 # i have pretty good pitch, for a percussionist 07.05.02 # cheers 07.05.04 # it's the eyes that will fill in the gaps in what it receives. 07.05.37 # i was meaning the gaps inherent in mp3 07.05.39 # not the h320 07.05.43 Quit ModernExecutive () 07.06.02 # andrewmel: that's what i'm talking about 07.06.05 # i'm going to show you :) 07.06.09 # there is alwasy the no gap option for lame 07.06.34 # nogap is pointless now 07.06.35 # cool 07.06.41 # it's done automatically now 07.06.47 # and nogap screws up VBR headers 07.06.54 # i still think an "ignore silence" option would be beneficial 07.07.00 # sangos thread pointed to a .5 second gap 07.07.04 # are you able to restore teh orig firmware on a rockboxed h320 07.07.04 # for the h1xx 07.07.13 # originally yes 07.07.16 # or just the 1.28k over it, in the future? 07.07.24 # yep, just reflash with the original firmware 07.07.55 # ok, good, i gotta learn me up on the rockbox stuff, cause as soon as its functional im goin for it 07.08.12 # nite all 07.08.17 # nite 07.08.20 # night 07.08.21 Nick Drumrboy247 is now known as Drumr|away (n=44c20ff1@labb.contactor.se) 07.09.55 # i'm off as well. congrats to the rb, thank you very much (etc etc i'm sure you get enough) i'll see you all another day 07.10.05 # team* 07.10.37 Quit gursikh () 07.10.41 Quit Dragon_Fangs ("Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.7/20050915]") 07.12.48 # brb need to switch clients 07.12.52 Quit sango () 07.13.00 Join sango_ [0] (i=user@r68h126.res.gatech.edu) 07.13.07 # wb 07.13.18 # which client to which client? 07.13.50 Part sango_ 07.14.04 Join sango_ [0] (i=user@r68h126.res.gatech.edu) 07.14.33 Join sango [0] (i=sango@r68h126.res.gatech.edu) 07.14.35 # how hard is it to reflash a bricked h3xx with a wiggler? 07.15.04 # it involves a bit of soldering and disassembly, i daresay 07.15.17 Part sango_ 07.15.20 # soldering? really? 07.15.27 # andrew: just finished the merge 07.15.28 # ... 07.15.40 # Was H300 firmware developed? 07.15.45 # the BDM port on the board inside the unit will just be a set of pads 07.15.52 # what about strategic placing of aluminum foil and disected telephone wires? 07.15.59 Quit Midgey31 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.16.03 # Jungti1234: the bootloader is available. the firmware itself isn't overly usable yet 07.16.15 # sweet 07.16.20 # is the bootloader on the site? 07.16.27 # yes 07.16.32 # yes, but its only experimental 07.16.32 # and it's considered experimental 07.16.35 # http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-h300/rockbox.zip 07.16.40 # Annsa: have you got a bricked player? 07.16.43 # it hasnt been tested on international models 07.16.51 # and it could brick your player 07.16.52 # dt can you supply a url? 07.16.58 # no, i was just wondering 07.17.12 # so what model has it been tested on? 07.17.15 # US? 07.17.30 # i have bricked my player previously though, and a wiggler is cheaper than a new h300 so i was wondering how hard it would be to save the old rather than buy a new one 07.17.33 # Saw that test is available in US firmware. 07.17.48 # its only been tested on US 07.18.06 # on a us player, but international firmware. 07.18.38 # so, is the bootloader on its own still experimental with a US player? 07.18.41 # what's the diff between US and international? 07.18.51 # hardware wise 07.19.23 # int. i mean* 07.19.24 # Is hardware of international and US different? 07.20.04 # DMJC: don't know about the hardware, but the US version supports encrypted WMA. 07.20.24 # I was the first non-dev to flash their player when the 100 firmware came out 07.20.28 # worked fine ever since then 07.20.38 # till I sat on the screen 07.20.45 # :P 07.20.47 # May I test because installing US firmware in Korea? 07.20.47 # :P 07.20.54 # u.s. h3xx has a few bits missing that make usbotg inoperative 07.21.08 # this may be necessary for syncing with wmp 07.21.14 # but it is not clear 07.21.25 # so basically the US version is crippleware 07.21.27 # interesting 07.21.35 # Anyone does correct answer to me. 07.21.47 # USBOTG doesnt work with my camera although works with my camera hotreader :S 07.22.49 Part andrewmel 07.23.42 # well i made a file illustrating the inherant gap of mp3 with LAME gapless headers 07.23.43 # -_-; 07.24.28 Join andrewmel [0] (n=andrewme@220-253-98-197.TAS.netspace.net.au) 07.25.39 # does anyone own a modded xbox with Xbox Media Center here? 07.25.45 # Jungti1234: the answer is we don't know, and trying it probably isn't a good idea 07.25.59 Join moda|lap [0] (i=moda_lap@CPE-138-130-209-123.qld.bigpond.net.au) 07.26.18 # do we have any pictures of rockbox running on h300 other than the ones with the rockbox logo? 07.26.53 # im suprised a news item hasnt been put on MR 07.27.22 # it has 07.27.52 # any pics?/ 07.28.00 # moda|lap: given that not much but the menus actually work, afaik, probably not. 07.28.08 # someone might be able to provide something 07.28.12 # i still want pics :p 07.28.19 # some of the plugins probably run, even with the wrong keybnidings 07.28.20 # you reckon slashdot will cover the h3XX move? 07.28.31 # h3xx move? 07.29.40 # i dare someone to test it on an intl 07.30.30 # * moda|lap pokes someone 07.30.36 # I will 07.30.41 # by wednesday 07.30.48 # bet it bricks 07.30.52 # that's when it's due at the latest 07.31.50 # so.... what needs to be done to get it to play music etc and be useable? 07.33.18 # ? 07.36.14 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverPort#H3x0 07.36.28 # i am going to head out night yall 07.36.44 # night 07.36.48 Quit sango () 07.36.56 # dare i say it. how long will it be? 07.37.01 # and i know, topic 07.37.49 Quit Annsa ("CGI:IRC") 07.37.56 Join baobab68 [0] (n=ca3421eb@labb.contactor.se) 07.38.33 # i was thinking about the int'l version and the bootloader. 07.38.55 # hehehe...heh 07.39.13 # government wants to make people work on xmas for no extra pay 07.39.14 Join whatboutbob [0] (n=cbd65f76@labb.contactor.se) 07.39.19 # * DMJC rolls on the floor 07.39.20 # since you can happily install 1.28k on either a US or an int'l H3xx, does it not follow that a patched 1.28K that works on a US model should work on an int'l model 07.39.49 # patched with the rb bootloader, i mean... 07.40.08 # (ain't no way it's happening on *my* int'l model though) 07.40.11 # i like that logic.... but logic doesnt count for anything in these lands of electronics 07.40.12 # ... 07.40.13 Quit andrewmel () 07.41.02 # i will wait dutifully until either Linus says it's ok, or until someone else is brave (dumb) enough to try it. 07.41.20 # like yourself.... 07.41.45 # u mean ur waiting too...? 07.42.00 # yea 07.42.12 # i said... like yourself, as in, you test it... 07.42.19 # i just don't have another $A500 to spend on another device, and have to re-skin it etc 07.42.35 # you can always rma? 07.42.46 # out of warranty... 07.42.55 # hhhh 07.43.10 # best tech purchase I *ever* made... 07.43.12 # so is mine, but, i need some repairs done to mine, but, still not testing it :p 07.43.22 # lol 07.43.55 # someone donate a intl h300 to linus.... 07.43.58 # maybe we can tempt some more souls over from MR and trick someone? :-p 07.44.41 # surely if linus bricks his h300 he can just undo those changes and unbrick it> 07.45.00 # does he have only US hardware though? 07.45.05 # ya 07.45.39 # i thought they were the same except for the DRM key, but I have read there are some different components on the mobo, and maybe the USB ports different... 07.46.50 # * baobab68 has 13 mins to go on his Ebay auction 07.46.58 # * baobab68 is feeling v tense 07.47.34 # * baobab68 appears to be talking to himself 07.48.25 # ebay auction? 07.48.31 # what are you trying to buy? 07.48.34 # or sell 07.49.37 # one of those sonic jewelry cleaners. will be an xmas gift but if it's cool i might get myself one for cleaning spectacles and cd's 07.50.29 # where are all the dev's? there's usually a lot more dev chat going on... 07.50.32 # Anyone links manual to me. 07.50.42 # Is hard to find. 07.51.17 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/RockboxManual/rockbox-manual-2.4.pdf 07.51.54 # time for smoko, too tense....8 mins to go 07.52.01 # Does it include iriver h100? 07.53.07 # no 07.53.15 # there has been no iriver relase so far 07.53.19 # so no manual either 07.54.26 # comeon, i want pics of h300 rockbox 07.56.56 # me too 07.57.54 # baobab68: there's no dev chat on atm because it's a bit early in the am where many of the dev's live 07.58.47 Part baobab68 08.01.04 Join baobab68 [0] (n=ca3421eb@labb.contactor.se) 08.02.13 # * baobab68 won the auction 08.02.31 # * baobab68 has never won an actual auction before, only Buy It Now stuff 08.03.55 # gw 08.04.10 # gw? good work? go 'way? 08.04.17 # good work 08.09.32 # :P 08.10.53 Quit baobab68 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 08.23.50 Quit moda|lap () 09.01.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.01.52 Join andrewmel [0] (n=andrewme@220-253-98-197.TAS.netspace.net.au) 09.20.11 Quit andrewmel ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 09.20.27 Join andrewmel [0] (n=andrewme@220-253-98-197.TAS.netspace.net.au) 09.24.48 Join Zak1392 [0] (n=zkeeping@CPE-139-168-220-233.sa.bigpond.net.au) 09.25.43 # has anyone tried the h300 bootloader on an int. model? 09.26.36 # not as far as I know 09.27.15 # damn... i really want to try it out on mine but I'm scared i might screw it up 09.27.26 # id rather have somebody else screw it up lol 09.27.37 # * andrewmel waits patiently 09.27.43 Join moda|lap [0] (i=moda_lap@CPE-138-130-209-123.qld.bigpond.net.au) 09.28.41 # do you have an int. version andrew? 09.29.18 # yes I do 09.29.46 # whats going on? 09.29.50 # would you want to put rockbox on yours? 09.30.02 # that was at andrew 09.30.26 # not yet. there is no point. if i want snake i wrote one in pascal ages ago that works nicely. i want music out of my day 09.30.29 # *dap 09.30.37 # hey 09.30.48 # hey 09.30.54 # hey 09.30.59 # hey 09.31.06 # As install rock box firmware, is not sonant. 09.31.31 # H300 09.32.17 # What should I do? 09.32.29 # wtf... 09.32.33 # what do you mean? 09.33.08 # sonant? 09.33.27 # Did to do bootloader to my H300. 09.33.52 # we dont follow Jungti1234 09.33.55 # im confused 09.33.57 # It is int. version. 09.33.59 # Jungti1234: you tried using the H300 bootloader on your player? or are you asking us if you should? 09.34.05 # moda|lap: he's korean, the translation isn't great 09.34.12 # -_-; sorry 09.34.19 # ahhh 09.34.24 # it doesnt matter 09.34.28 # Jungti1234: the answer is, no-one knows if it'll work on an international version yet 09.34.28 # atleast hes trying :P 09.34.35 # Used bootloader. 09.34.43 # unless your crazy enough to do it... 09.34.48 # jungti, did it work? 09.35.10 # -_- 09.35.19 # ? 09.35.22 # Do strange moving. 09.35.52 # strange buttons? 09.35.56 # what moved strange? 09.35.59 # Device operates strangely. 09.36.13 # Jungti1234: the firmware isn't finished yet 09.36.17 # how strange? 09.36.24 # do basic things work? 09.36.29 # Zak1392: not really, no. 09.36.33 # Come on sound option during refreshing. 09.36.53 # refreshing -> playing 09.36.59 # well, sound doesn't work yet 09.37.00 # Jungti1234: you're not making a good deal of sense. what are you trying to do, and in which firmware? 09.37.17 # oh...T.T 09.37.23 # i think jungti is working through an electronic translator? 09.37.24 # 1.28K 09.37.25 # may i suggest babelfish Jungti1234? if its hard to get the message out... 09.37.26 Join CheeseBurgerMan [0] (n=BurgerBo@63.150.80.142) 09.37.37 # hey cbm 09.37.45 # Hey 09.37.50 # moda|lap: he's USING a translator, it's not a great one, and babelfish is one of the worst ;) 09.38.09 # I unuse babelfish. 09.38.12 # It is strange. 09.38.19 # jungti, take your time, 09.38.25 # I know it is, it's OK. 09.38.26 # Jungti1234: the rockbox firmware is not functional on H3x0 yet. we recommend sticking with the iriver firmware. 09.38.29 # try a few different way to say 09.38.34 # expect it to operate strangely. 09.38.48 # ashridah: heh, i suck eh 09.38.52 # @jungti: are you using rockbox or the official firmware? 09.39.06 # yes 09.39.08 # 1.28k 09.39.20 # so NOT rockbox? 09.39.38 # maybe hes flashed rockbox to the iriver, but he is using the iriver firmware part. 09.39.41 # whay? 09.39.43 # what? 09.39.57 # argh, I hate it when people say "Yes" to a question like that;) 09.40.06 # Applied rockbox firmware to 1.28k. 09.40.15 # well put. now clear 09.40.36 # then loaded rockbox on international player? 09.40.44 # yes 09.40.51 # TiMiD: The x11 sim does not yet support colour, that's why a h300 sim only shows the remote. Try the win32 sim, it works. According to linuxstb it also works in wine 09.41.10 # Jungti1234: and did you copy a daily build onto the player as well? 09.41.36 # I'm sorry, did not understand. 09.42.19 # rockbox + 1.28, good. then add daily build to harddrive? 09.42.38 # ashridah : I downloaded at linker that you speak. 09.42.46 # Jungti1234: rockbox comes in two parts for the H300. the bootloader, which you've installed. and the firmware itself, ie, the part that plays music 09.43.06 # Jungti1234: so you downloaded http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-h300/rockbox.zip and unzipped it into your player? 09.43.11 # yes 09.43.32 # okay. you're about where everyone else is, ie, with a player that boots rockbox, but isn't completely finished, because rockbox isn't finished for the H300. 09.43.51 # the original firmware can be accessed by holding record while pressing play (or whatever turns on the unit) 09.44.05 # (when booting the device, that is) 09.44.24 # LCD is lighted freely. 09.44.26 # so, at what point does rockbox not work for you? given that you've got an international player. 09.44.34 # can you take a picture with a camera? 09.44.56 # Take animation. 09.45.07 # animation -> video 09.45.16 # wait 09.45.18 # i suppose that will work 09.45.55 # * andrewmel waits patiently 09.46.13 # @jungti, thanks for taking the time to talk in english 09.46.20 # ^^ 09.46.22 # H300 does not end. 09.46.27 # end -> off 09.46.30 # does not turn off? 09.46.38 # Use the reset button. 09.46.41 # use the reset button 09.46.45 # beaten 09.46.45 # yes 09.47.21 # doesn't holding 'stop' work for the H300 yet? 09.47.56 # hmm.. 09.48.23 # Off and start are late. 09.48.50 # sorry, start is fast. 09.49.25 # so it boots fast? 09.49.43 Quit moda|lap () 09.50.52 # damn 09.52.44 # Off does not become well. 09.53.04 # off does not work? 09.54.23 # Button malfunctions and moves strangely. 09.54.39 # can you take a picture? 09.54.55 # yes 09.55.09 # that would be great thanks. 09.55.11 Join ramninja [0] (n=ramninja@ppp15-20.lns2.syd7.internode.on.net) 09.55.35 # photo good 09.55.42 # Video quality is bad. 09.55.53 # it doesn't really matter 09.55.57 # Is see however. 09.57.40 # that's fine 10.00.08 # H300 yet off without being done continuously strange moving do. 10.01.01 # it's big. 10.01.03 # so the iriver turned off but does strange movements? 10.01.15 # Video file is big. 10.01.27 # big is good, where? 10.01.34 # it doesn't matter 10.01.45 # Is not where there uploads. 10.02.01 # ah! wait 10.03.07 # rapidshare.de can do it 10.03.07 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.03.43 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s115b.studby.ntnu.no) 10.04.34 Join travis [0] (n=acb8800b@labb.contactor.se) 10.04.43 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A4545E.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.05.32 # wow 10.05.37 # thank you 10.05.45 # posted video? 10.06.10 # uploading. 10.06.13 # how big is the file? 10.06.20 # 32 10.06.23 # 32mb 10.06.34 # link? 10.06.38 # okay... this might take a while 10.06.38 # * ashridah whistles 10.06.43 # Because the upload speed is slow, must wait 25 minutes. 10.06.46 # * ashridah will pass, is on dialup 10.06.48 # fine 10.07.02 # andrew: he's uploading it now 10.07.17 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.07.36 # H300's battery expression is strange. 10.07.39 # Zak: yep. dont want to sound abrupt but trying to make all comments ot jungti simple for translation 10.07.46 # expression? -_-; 10.07.51 # off topic: I made the South Australian state team in baseball! 10.08.11 # Congratulations :) 10.08.18 # Good job! :D 10.08.19 # hehe congratulation 10.08.19 # Yarr :-D. 10.08.25 # Congrats. :) 10.08.32 # thanks! 10.08.52 # Having said that.....you better make the national team..or else! 10.08.53 # yep, congrats. lots of baseball in SA 10.08.56 # lol 10.09.01 # 20.46 KB/Sec... 10.09.16 # * CheeseBurgerMan has no idea how close Australian Baseball is to American baseball. 10.09.25 # ;) 10.09.27 # CBM: very long way 10.09.34 # lol 10.09.44 # * ramninja had no idea aussies played it and is aussie himself 10.09.44 # now I have to spend about 1200 bucks for travel, accomodation, uniform, etc. 10.09.47 # I actually don't know much about either baseball. 10.09.53 # :| 10.09.55 # about tenth ranked sport in terms of participation, and only 20 mill population in aus 10.09.58 # that's not so cool. 10.10.04 # Baseball here is like Rugby League over there. 10.10.12 # but getting to state team is tough 10.10.26 # i have to travel to lismore, NSW 10.10.38 # zak, are you ssh? 10.10.51 # woops. netiquite alert. 10.11.04 # ssh? 10.11.10 # Secure Shell 10.11.51 # ??? 10.12.38 # Remote access to your computer? 10.12.44 # 20 min. 10.13.07 # stu3: why? 10.13.26 # I've no idea, andrewmel was asking. 10.14.04 # i was asking if zak is known by another name on misticriver 10.14.17 # i think he may have been talking another ssh becouse that doesnt really make sence 10.14.36 # andrew: no, why? 10.15.04 Join bbad [0] (n=bbad@81.198.48.110) 10.15.28 # my oldtimers is kicking in and i am mixing my conversations up 10.15.49 # lol 10.15.51 # :o 10.16.03 # is ssh a person? 10.16.04 # Ah, that makes more sense. 10.18.52 # well, anyway... i think i may be a starting pitcher for the baseball team 10.19.11 # Wow. :D 10.19.35 # can you say 'tv spots'! lol 10.20.02 # lol 10.20.40 # baseball here is kind of different than baseball in America though 10.20.54 # i never pitched in America though 10.21.39 # I don't play baseball. 10.21.44 # So I haven't either. ;) 10.23.08 # in America i was a third baseman but when i moved here, nobody on my team had a hope in pitching so i started pitching and right now im doing a good job 10.23.24 # really good job 10.23.30 # Obviously. 10.23.38 # lol 10.23.39 # Or you wouldn't be ont he team. ;) 10.23.42 # on the* 10.24.04 # im hoping to make the national team 10.24.09 # thats my dream 10.24.17 # then the pros lol 10.24.20 # lol 10.24.33 # Practice practice practice.... ;) 10.24.51 # too lazy... lol 10.24.59 Join baobab68 [0] (n=ca3421eb@labb.contactor.se) 10.25.06 # 70% 10.25.38 # okay, thanks for the info jungti ;) 10.25.39 # was just reading the live log. Jungti - did we establish that you upgraded an International version of the H300 with Rockbox loader? 10.25.59 # yep 10.26.03 # i think 10.26.19 # the man is a risk taker that is for sure. 10.26.28 # but that's cool. 10.26.32 # baobab68: yeah, but i wouldn't assume that it worked perfectly, he's uploading a video of what his player is currently doing, since he's not sure what is failing for him (and english isn't his first language) 10.27.00 # how about a hit of 'reset'? 10.27.14 # he says it does strange moving 10.27.41 # excuse my enthusiasm - i have followed RB very closely for about 6 months. i find the last couple of days very exciting. 10.28.02 # same here :) 10.28.12 # am in awe of someone who can examine the hardware and re-write the OS in low-level coldfire code.... 10.28.24 # i can just about record a macro in MS Word.... 10.28.31 # Some ones.... ;) 10.28.35 # baobab68: the devil is in the detail 10.28.39 # T.T 10.28.42 # Rockbox is a team effort. :) 10.28.47 # baobab68: mostly the hard part is finding documentation on the components 10.28.47 # Off does not become yet. 10.29.01 # (which is why any portalplayer based hardware is unlikely to be supported any time soon) 10.29.10 # have you tried the RESET button? 10.29.15 # CBM - I didn't mean to disparage all non-Linus people. 10.29.17 # Backlight is lighted yet. 10.29.42 # i am in awe of Christi's doco too.... and I think RB will turn the ipod world on its head too 10.29.44 # does the RESET button do anything> 10.30.09 # Off is success by RESET button. 10.30.09 Join Superman [0] (i=Superman@ip51ccca31.speed.planet.nl) 10.30.14 # whew 10.30.21 Join Mxm`Pas`Bien [0] (n=flemmard@fbx.flemmard.net) 10.30.24 # hi 10.30.29 # hey 10.30.31 # hi supe 10.30.45 Quit Maxime` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.30.45 Nick ashridah is now known as Lost-tv (i=ashridah@220-253-123-108.VIC.netspace.net.au) 10.30.46 # jungti - you are korean? 10.30.52 # just read the irc logs, someone is uploading a video of a h300 with rockbox? 10.30.59 # yes... 10.31.02 # baobab68: yes 10.31.05 # jungti: can you boot up into the official iriver firmware? 10.31.23 # anyang haseo... 10.31.27 # Hold the record button when you turn it on. 10.31.27 # wait 10.31.31 # OK 10.31.33 # haha 10.31.40 # what? 10.31.42 # annyong haseyo 10.31.59 # i was close... 10.32.04 # ??? 10.32.11 # yes 10.32.24 # Zak - I think it means 'hello' 10.32.31 # i have a h300 eu is that the same as a it? 10.32.32 # Booted to original firmware. 10.33.00 # *International 10.33.02 # Original firmware is normally. 10.33.13 # thats good 10.33.17 Join Maxime` [0] (n=flemmard@fbx.flemmard.net) 10.33.17 # jungti - so you have a Korean H300, with 1.28K, and have used the Rockbox loader successfully. 10.33.26 # how about that video? 10.33.38 Quit Mxm`Pas`Bien (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.33.39 # Upload completion 10.34.03 # great! can you post the link? 10.34.09 # It's mov file. 10.34.15 # http://rapidshare.de/files/7889196/DSCN2196.MOV.html 10.34.30 # thanks! 10.34.47 # thanks 10.34.59 # thanks here too 10.35.00 # thanks 10.35.11 # baobab68: Isn't successful. 10.35.40 # well, iriver works fine gut is really glitchy 10.35.50 # *but 10.35.50 # you mean Rockbox does not run very well yet. 10.36.00 Join Mxm`Pas`Bien [0] (n=flemmard@fbx.flemmard.net) 10.36.03 # zak - my gut is glitchy too sometimes 10.36.08 # yep 10.36.09 # :-) 10.36.14 # lol 10.36.21 Quit Maxime` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.36.37 # he says the iriver firmware works fine 10.36.55 # lol 10.37.21 # Battery is full, is not so in rockbox firmware. 10.37.36 # now i have to wait another seven and a half minutes for the download to finish... 10.37.47 # One is more. 10.37.52 # wait 10.39.06 # Appliance stopped. 10.39.25 # what? 10.39.58 Join Membrillo [0] (n=3ce41a60@labb.contactor.se) 10.40.23 # uhh file doesn't play here, wich player i need to use? 10.40.35 Quit Mxm`Pas`Bien (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.40.40 # quicktime 10.40.45 # ah ok 10.40.46 # quicktime 10.42.35 Quit travis ("CGI:IRC") 10.42.46 # 2:40 left to download 10.42.51 Join Maxime [0] (n=flemmard@fbx.flemmard.net) 10.43.08 # 2:00 left to download quicktime 10.43.21 # Superman: quicktilme alternative + media player classic ! 10.43.23 # 2 minutes to download file! 10.43.24 # this is great :p 10.43.31 # whats the vid? i saw it in the logs i was looking at 10.44.36 # hahaha 10.44.47 # LCD is lighted alone. 10.45.32 # There is more 3 files. 10.47.20 # you mean lcd is always on? 10.47.40 # backlight i mean? 10.47.40 # you guys must have 'real' broadband. i have "aussie" broadband - 512KB sigh 10.48.05 # backlight = LCD 10.48.39 # this place is awash with aussies!!! 10.49.11 # i grew up most of my life in America though... 10.49.16 # not like that means anything... 10.49.34 # T.T 10.50.13 # ahhhhh, zak, now i know, you live near caves!!! 10.50.21 # oldtimers 10.50.24 # disease 10.50.25 # we have taste in DAPs, that's all 10.50.27 # kicking 10.50.30 # somethinggnadkf 10.50.51 # the Naracoorte Caves? 10.50.56 # 4:30 remaining, sigh 10.51.08 # yep, those ones! 10.51.11 # No, it's because sensible people are in bed everywhere else. ;) 10.51.26 # where are u cbm? 10.51.29 # andrew: have you been there? 10.51.42 # im in Aussie 10.51.49 # and have 256k broadband 10.51.54 # I'm in the US. 10.51.57 # It's ~5 AM 10.52.07 # (is there a way to quote someone's name like that or do ppl just type it in?) 10.52.09 # i lived in mt gambier for 1 1/2 years 10.52.16 # ewwwww.... 10.52.19 # :-) 10.52.25 # Can't operate. 10.52.28 # although it got dropped to 56k by my ISP because ive downloaded over 12gb this month 10.52.44 # how much u pay membrillo? 10.52.46 # hehe 10.52.55 # I download about 15gb / 48 hours 10.53.00 # yeah, andrew, i know. have you been down in any of the caves? 10.53.04 # 100mbit is eeevil 10.53.20 Quit Maxime (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.53.32 # yep, but nearly 20 years ago 10.53.41 # well 60 bucks i think. But im eligible for 200mbit for 50 bucks a month because im on the same block as a telephone exchange 10.53.53 # 200mbit? 10.54.09 Join Maxime [0] (n=flemmard@fbx.flemmard.net) 10.54.11 # wait 10.54.13 # you mean 20? 10.54.14 # we get 25gb for $39.95 it pays to shop around, but 200mbit for $50.00, yummmy 10.54.17 # 20mbit lol 10.54.20 # ;) 10.54.27 # im not sure 10.54.34 # never heard about copper-based > 25 mbit 10.54.34 # ive 2000 kilobytes per second 10.54.47 # its* 10.55.00 # "ye canna change the laws of physics cap'n) 10.55.16 # 0:04 remaining 10.55.24 # laws of physics are just our current best descriptions, not laws 10.55.49 # that's not what it means;) 10.56.00 # point is you can't change the "true" laws of physics 10.56.13 # our current theories does not really factor into the equation at all;) 10.56.20 # it actually just means that dilithium crystals can only be pushed so far 10.56.25 # hehe 10.57.06 # but scotty can always get 120% 10.57.19 # beam me up scotty 10.57.32 # and we won't discuss Lt Sulu given current circumstances on MR. 10.57.38 # :-) 10.57.38 # * CheeseBurgerMan beams Membrillo up. 10.57.52 # oh god 10.57.54 # cheeseburger 10.58.02 # Hello... 10.58.03 # I'm daamn hungry 10.58.06 # hehe 10.58.10 # ;) 10.58.26 # where did you say your from Andrew? 10.58.28 # Well, if it's any comfort, I'm heading to bed soon. :P 10.58.36 # all over australia 10.58.40 # fair enough 10.58.44 # im in newcastle 10.58.52 # so what we have is a clip of Jungti's *white* H3xx, showing some RB screens and Jungti trying to turn it off. 10.59.04 # actually 10.59.06 # Did you see everybody? 10.59.16 # it looks a lot like the first h1xx builds 10.59.17 Quit Maxime (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.59.18 # i want to go to australia one day 10.59.31 # yes Jungti. But the question is does that means it's safe? 10.59.39 # Back Light speaks that turned off while was lighted yet. 10.59.51 # for an int'l H3xx? 10.59.57 # yes 11.00.12 Join Maxime [0] (n=flemmard@fbx.flemmard.net) 11.00.35 # Jungti - any languages other than Korean and English? French by any chance? 11.00.42 # english 11.00.46 # Chinese? 11.00.53 # what? 11.01.12 # trying to find a language that we both speak. 11.01.16 # Speak Japanese. 11.01.36 # There are more 2 videoes that see. 11.01.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.01.43 # DT speaks japanese 11.01.49 # konnichiwa 11.02.02 # origato gozai mas 11.02.10 # Me so horny, me love you loooong time 11.02.10 # nono 11.02.17 # ª¡ 11.02.35 # Can not you see? 11.02.42 # [11:02:28] [Jungti1234] ª¡ 11.02.44 # membrillo - shame. :-) 11.02.54 # "same same" 11.03.08 # °¡ 11.03.12 # hehe 11.03.15 # it wont work Jungti1234 11.03.19 # atleast not for most clients 11.03.47 # ¾È³çÇϼ¼¿ä. 11.04.05 # annyonghaseyo. 11.04.09 # hello. 11.04.15 # ni hao 11.04.17 # hello 11.04.17 # bonjour 11.04.23 # hehehe 11.04.29 # lol 11.04.48 # you speak japanese right? 11.05.01 # baobab68: Do you know many languages? 11.05.04 # i'm like very rusty lately, but i should do ok 11.05.09 # video, domo arigato jungti san 11.05.18 # A little. 11.05.24 # ??? 11.05.25 # Speak Japanese a little. 11.05.30 # a little is better than none 11.05.42 # jungti: english, chinese, french 11.05.47 # Better than I do. :) 11.05.52 # *sings* i like chineeeeese... I like chineeeeeeeese 11.05.53 # wow chinese? 11.06.03 # dui. 11.06.05 # If can speak Chinese, Korean can do. 11.06.15 # i don't know chinese 11.06.16 # bu shi. 11.06.17 # Korean is easier than Chinese. 11.06.36 # dt can you ask him to post video showing ports or buttons so we can tell if the player is international? 11.06.52 Join ghostface24 [0] (i=ghostfac@221.194.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com) 11.07.00 # Translation is difficult. 11.07.08 # Write right word. 11.07.56 # ÞçªÏ rockboxª¬ÕÞª¤ªÇª¹. 11.08.23 # it's not showing up here right on my end 11.08.31 # i don't know what encoding you're using for your japanese 11.08.37 # jungti: can only use english characters here. hangul and kana won't work 11.08.44 # ÞçªÏ«é«Ã«¯«¯«Ð«Ã«¯«¹ª¬ÕÞª¤ªÇª¹. 11.08.59 # maybe my kana will work for him 11.09.14 # All I can see. 11.09.50 Join qupada [0] (n=qupada@60-234-140-192.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) 11.10.01 # on US version, the play button says ">" and "ON" am I right? 11.10.05 # Yes. 11.10.11 # i used to learn french 11.10.16 # “Ç‚Ý‚Å‚«‚Ü‚·‚©H 11.10.38 # haha 11.10.47 # Jungti: Play button says ">" or says ">" and "ON"? 11.10.51 # It is not right. 11.10.56 # wait 11.11.13 # ¢ºll 11.11.25 # zak: vous avez etudié au lycee? 11.11.31 Nick CheeseBurgerMan is now known as CBM-away (n=BurgerBo@63.150.80.142) 11.11.35 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@labb.contactor.se) 11.11.39 # vous avez etudi?au lycee? 11.11.58 # hi LinusN 11.12.00 # There is a little word that can't see. 11.12.02 # Oui, je etudie au lycee 11.12.08 # hi 11.12.11 # hi 11.12.14 # hello 11.12.23 # hey 11.12.23 # http://rapidshare.de/files/7890248/DSCN2200.MOV.html 11.12.31 # seems i made a good move to go to sleep right after releasing the bootloader :-) 11.12.41 # It's another video. 11.12.43 # lol 11.12.45 # it's chaos 11.12.51 # cheers on v6 :) 11.13.02 # cheers indeed :P 11.13.03 # DreamTactix291: does it work well? 11.13.28 # hey linus, should rockbox work on an int h300? any big diffs? 11.13.28 # no issues at all 11.13.33 # if anything happens i'll let you know 11.13.38 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@p54BD6003.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.13.39 # i didn't have any issues with v5 either 11.13.44 # used every day 11.13.48 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 11.13.48 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@p54BD6003.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.13.54 # * amiconn just added 2 missing remote features locally 11.13.55 # Zak1392: it *should* work fine 11.13.57 # 'Backlight on when charging' and 'Caption backlight' for the remote :) 11.14.17 # so really your just covering yourself if something bad does happen right Linus? 11.14.31 # i can't download jungti's video - download limits on the site 11.14.32 # you can say "well i hadnt tested on int." 11.14.45 # not that it should 11.14.47 # what? 11.14.48 # hearing about H3xx rockbox takes me back to when we first got our first bootloader for the H1xx 11.14.55 # http://rapidshare.de/files/7890248/DSCN2200.MOV.html 11.15.36 Join lugan [0] (n=irc@tor/session/x-118b9d57a335533b) 11.15.42 # Membrillo: from the IriverBoot wiki page: "Note! The H300 bootloader has only been tested on a US model!" 11.16.23 # until now... 11.16.41 # we *think* Jungti's just done the testing on the int'l model 11.16.46 # Jungti, how about using Putfile for your videos 11.17.01 # LinusN: yeah thats what i thought. do you know when you'll be getting your hands on an int. model? 11.17.14 # i have no idea 11.17.36 # if i had lots of money i'd buy one and donate it 11.17.39 # sadly i don't have lots of money 11.18.20 # maybe someone will brick one and donate that? :-) 11.18.22 # LinusN: I read short time ago. 11.18.26 # make money :P working the streets should rake in some cash 11.18.39 # well i have a job 11.18.43 # but i have bills too 11.19.01 # fair enough. Ill be happy to work the streets 11.19.05 Join Coldtoast [0] (n=edan@ppp110-249.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net) 11.19.06 # :D 11.19.20 # i'm watching the video now 11.19.26 # wow the text is small on an H3xx screen 11.19.42 # hmm 11.19.54 # that's definitely rockbox 11.20.05 # LinusN: Are no you int'l model? 11.20.06 # any of you h300 users tested the bootloader? 11.20.19 # Jungti1234: i have the us model 11.20.29 Join muesli_- [0] (i=muesli_t@Bc126.b.pppool.de) 11.20.33 # do i just patch the iriver firmware with the patcher and put these files on my iriver: http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-h300/rockbox.zip?? 11.20.33 # Only US model? 11.20.41 # Zak1392: yes 11.21.06 # Do you operate normally in US model? 11.21.09 # what are the .bin files for? 11.21.18 # Jungti - so you have International model? Definitely? 11.21.19 # a word of warning to you all: running rockbox on your player *may* be bad for it 11.21.38 # baobab68: yes 11.21.45 # you guys (non developers) need to calm down and let Linus work 11.21.50 # linus: how? 11.22.16 Join Raskolnikov^ [0] (n=rodja@host-84-222-99-100.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) 11.22.16 # even though it boots, ATA drivers and stuff could still damage the disk, correct? 11.22.23 # hi guys 11.22.29 # i haven't found out all the details about the hardware so it's very likely that there is a i/o collision/conflict somewhere 11.22.42 # just for information 11.22.55 # i've succesfully booted rockbox on a h320 eu version 11.23.10 # it *should* be allright, but you never know 11.23.12 Quit Lost-tv (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.23.16 # So rockbox could have possible physical effects on the HDD? 11.23.20 # "the genie is out of the bottle now" 11.23.22 # whee Raskolnikov^ 11.23.25 # Membrillo: not the hdd 11.23.29 # Linus: how different is the hardware between an H1xx and H3xx out of curiosity? 11.23.57 # i don't know if someone else already did that 11.24.02 # the "core" stuff is the same, like cpu, memory, flash etc 11.24.14 # but i thought it might be an interesting information for all of you 11.24.18 # LinusN : Is a song played in US model? 11.24.18 # Raskolnikov - nobody has admitted it 11.24.19 # tought 11.24.19 # just the LCD and USBOTG stuff mainly 11.24.22 # most stuff is similar 11.24.30 # baobab68: : i'm kinda crazy ;) 11.24.33 # that's what my understanding was 11.24.35 # Jungti - I don't think so 11.24.47 # LinusN: with the h300, what's the deal with the Data/Charge USB mode? 11.24.51 # but they have moved things around, so many things aren't controlled by the same port pins 11.24.59 # ah 11.25.04 # Coldtoast: you can charge from usb 11.25.10 # is ther ea way to make it so anotehr key combo will boot the device with USB set to Charge? 11.25.24 # Raskolnikov^ how is it...what are your experiences, what can already you do? 11.25.25 # yeah. but how about with having to switch it? 11.25.25 # Jungti1234: the audio does not work yet 11.25.32 # http://rapidshare.de/files/7890601/DSCN2203.MOV.html 11.25.36 Join Lost-tv [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-120-103.VIC.netspace.net.au) 11.25.41 # cos you have to set wither Charge or Data mode int eh iriver FW 11.25.48 # Jungti1234: it's going to be a while before audio works 11.25.49 # It's another video. 11.25.50 # trust me 11.25.52 # linus: why are you only recommending that developers use it? 11.25.53 # i'm a java developer so i thing i won't be very useful in developing rockbox :P 11.26.03 # but i can help stress testing it 11.26.17 # DT291: yes 11.26.23 # Coldtoast: you mean you have to press ON to go to data mode? 11.26.25 # raskol: so you can boot to RB, and then reboot to original Iriver firmware ok? 11.26.36 # baobab68: yes 11.26.42 Join webguest48 [0] (n=56822d26@labb.contactor.se) 11.26.48 # yes 11.26.51 # rockbox is dual boot 11.26.57 # Zak1392: because it doesn't work, and may potentionally damage your player 11.26.58 # it's awfully tempting. 11.27.02 # LinusN: well, one of my friends takes his h300 to work and a couple of times, the battery has run out of juice and there wasn't enough power to boot the device and change from Data to Charge 11.27.17 # baobab68: but you won't do much with rockbox at the moment 11.27.25 # oh, i thought it always booted in charge mode 11.27.31 # don't think so 11.27.36 # i know, but it's "cool".... :-) 11.27.39 # (i've never used my h300 with the original fw) 11.27.40 # Hi all - like so many others I'd like to thank LinusN for all his work on the H300 firmware.. I personally can't wait........ 11.27.41 # Raskolnikov^ did you check the plugins? ->.rock 11.27.42 # damn cool :) 11.27.54 # not from what he was saying. he said it was impossible to change to Charge mode 11.27.57 # muesli_-: no haven't tried yet 11.28.06 # i've tried to switch theme 11.28.06 # do it pls :D 11.28.09 # and it worked 11.28.11 # ok 11.28.13 # wait 11.28.14 # Raskolnikov^: can you confirm that? 11.28.19 # about the USB mode? 11.28.22 # i take the unit 11.28.43 # Coldtoast: sorry i wasn't following your discussion 11.28.44 # (how do you quote ppl's names like that...) 11.28.48 # if you set it to Data mode, when you reset the device, it boots with USB in Data mode, right? 11.28.57 # mmm 11.29.13 Quit webguest48 (Client Quit) 11.29.26 # i don't undestand what you mean.. 11.29.33 # anyway rockbox boot damn fast!! 11.29.39 # on your h320, change the USB mode to Data 11.29.41 # if my iriver stuffs up, is there any easy way to fix it? 11.29.47 # <_FireFly_> baobab68: it depends if your irc-client cad do it: simple type the first chars of the name and press the tab-key 11.29.48 # you can select either Charge mode or Data 11.29.55 # Zak1392: probably not 11.29.59 # ah, right 11.30.05 # thanks _FireFly_ 11.30.08 # i've never used usb to recharge it 11.30.18 # (worked using RB's webclient) 11.30.18 # if you set it to Data, when you reset the device, is it still in Data mode when you boot? 11.30.22 # i use USB to charge my PMP a lot 11.30.50 # Raskolnikov^ check starfield.rock and make a picture pls :D 11.30.55 # it'd be excellent if you had another key combo so that when it boots, it sets USB to Charge 11.31.06 # .rockbox/rock/starfield.rock 11.31.15 # ok 11.31.52 # well once again all, it's quite cool where this is at. i think i will wait a few days and see if ppl's screens, hdd's, headphones and data ports survive, before doing mine. 11.31.54 # is that a screensaver? 11.31.59 # kind of 11.32.03 # ok 11.32.06 # just eye candy 11.32.07 # it works ;) 11.32.12 # piiic :D 11.32.18 # ok 11.32.18 # is it in color? 11.32.23 # no 11.32.39 # mandelbrot.rock ? 11.32.50 # to all in the RB team - "keep up the good work." 11.33.26 # * baobab68 is a Word master available to help with doco if needed 11.33.38 Quit andrewmel () 11.33.40 # can't find that muesli_- 11.33.47 # same directory 11.34.09 # snake works :) 11.34.15 # check the irc log, last I heard mandelbrot crashed RB 11.34.17 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 11.34.29 # and good night to all. happy bungee jumping... 11.34.38 Part baobab68 11.34.45 # there's no mandelbrot 11.35.02 # I reckon it'd be cool to have, like, an "fm" dir or somethign where you can dump bitmaps named the same thing as any FM presets so the FM WPS can display station logos when you select FM presets 11.35.11 # bounce has some color 11.36.06 # Coldtoast: or maybe you could have a system where its embedded in the preset file like how album covers can be embedded in ID3 tags 11.36.08 Nick Lost-tv is now known as ashridah (i=ashridah@220-253-120-103.VIC.netspace.net.au) 11.36.18 # Raskolnikov^ can you take a pic 11.36.21 # ah 11.36.33 # LinusN said cube shall look fantastic 11.36.35 # i'm doing 11.36.38 # ok 11.36.43 # let's try cube 11.37.07 # nice :) 11.37.38 # i'm taking pics with the cell phone 11.37.39 # can you take a pic of it? at least this one 11.37.48 # so i dunno what it will come out 11.37.54 # the camera battery is dead 11.38.00 # gotta recharge that 11.38.16 # another word of advice: please don't flood this channel with information on h300 crashes or things that don't work on the h300 11.38.31 # except if you are a developer that is 11.38.36 # sure i won't 11.38.46 # maybe we need #rockbox.lounge 11.38.56 # can i talk about the wonderful things that actually works? :) 11.39.01 # :-) 11.39.18 # raskolnikov: have you tried turning it off and stuff like that? 11.39.42 # poweroff may or may not work :-) 11.39.50 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 11.39.54 # <_FireFly_> LinusN: i will put a patch on tracker for the additional remote-lcd-settings should i also include a seperate selection for scrollbar and statusbar on the remote ?? 11.40.04 # Zak1392: turned off right now 11.40.07 # linux: why is that? 11.40.12 # to be absolutely sure that it has powered off, push the reset button after powering off 11.40.15 # muesli_-: this pics are crappy 11.40.15 # *linus 11.40.27 # Morning all. Are we planning to make the rockbox.target file install into the .rockbox directory now? Or is it going to be up to the user to move it? 11.40.30 # damn it 11.40.33 # ok LinusN, i try it 11.40.34 # Zak1392: because i haven't verified that my way is the right way 11.40.49 # pushed the reset button 11.40.54 # nothing happened 11.41.02 # linuxstb__: we will probably move it eventually 11.41.16 # i just prepared the boot loader to support it in case we wanted it that way 11.41.28 # Raskolnikov^: that's to be expected 11.41.48 # but now you know its off for real :-) 11.42.09 # good :) 11.42.16 # I'm just thinking it could cause problems if someone has an old rockbox.iriver in their .rockbox folder and then upgrades... 11.42.28 # wait a minute, go to try it the camera has some charge 11.42.55 # linuxstb__: it looks in .rockbox first 11.43.10 # Exactly. I mean the current installation to the root can cause problems. 11.43.15 # linuxstb__: you have a serious split personality disorder 11.43.28 # No, I have a seriously unreliable ADSL connection.... 11.43.37 # linuxstb__: no, it looks in .rockbox *first* 11.43.52 # so any stray rockbox.iriver in the root will be ignored 11.43.57 # Yes, but the rockbox.zip contains the rockbox.iriver in the root. 11.44.02 # IIUC 11.44.29 # ah you mean if the user moves it to .rockbox himself? 11.44.36 # Yes. 11.44.38 # then that's his problem, not ours 11.45.21 # I'm just thinking the priority for the bootloader should match the default for rockbox.zip. 11.45.38 # But you're right - if the user moves things, it is his/her fault. 11.45.41 Quit davidc____ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.45.46 # how is the bootloader supposed to know when the .zip changes? 11.46.20 # <_FireFly_> LinusN: ?? 11.46.31 # the bootloader is prepared to handle the move from root to .rockbox in the zip 11.47.22 # muesli_- , the battery is recharging, in half an hour i should be able to have some pics 11.47.33 Join San [0] (n=Test@A-103-163.cust.iol.ie) 11.47.35 # yippie :D 11.47.37 # I'm not saying anything should be done differently, I'm just mentioning the potential problem a user could have. 11.47.43 # yes 11.47.54 # the world needs pix :D 11.47.55 # linuxstb__: why don't you kill your ghosts? 11.48.18 # I'm not sure how to (I'm using xchat) 11.48.28 # no registered nick? 11.48.39 # Yes, the first one is registered. 11.48.49 # I normally just wait for them to timeout. 11.48.52 # so... does the rockbox.iriver file have to be in the root or in the .rockbox folder? 11.48.57 # But if there's a better way, please tell me. 11.49.16 # /msg nickserv ghost 11.49.22 # both work in v6 Zak1392 11.49.23 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.49.47 # LinusN: OK. So I should register all of them. 11.49.51 # no 11.50.07 # what v6? 11.50.09 # /msg ghost linuxstb 11.50.20 # Zak1392: or v1 if you're a h300 user 11.50.35 # oh 11.50.40 Nick linuxstb__ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 11.51.01 Mode "#rockbox +o LinusN " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 11.51.18 # LinusN: Thanks for the IRC tutorial. 11.51.26 Kick (#rockbox linuxstb_ :LinusN) by LinusN!n=linus@labb.contactor.se 11.51.26 # <_FireFly_> LinusN: how about my question ?? 11.51.31 # Ouch. 11.51.49 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 11.51.58 # ok i'll be back later 11.52.05 # _FireFly_: ah, sorry missed that 11.52.15 # hopefully with some pics of my rockbox h320 :) 11.52.18 Join gromit` [0] (n=gromit`@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 11.52.19 # yes, i think so 11.52.50 # <_FireFly_> LinusN: should i post the question again ?? 11.52.59 Quit Raskolnikov^ () 11.53.16 # _FireFly_: i think you should include those settings 11.53.28 # <_FireFly_> ah ok i will do it :) 11.54.57 # LinusN: Just curious. How much was the H1xx RB based on the Archos version? 11.55.07 # if you know that is 11.56.24 # Membrillo: a lot 11.57.04 # most of the code base is the same 11.57.20 Quit lugan () 12.04.55 Quit ghostface24 () 12.06.16 Quit Membrillo ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 12.06.32 Quit Sando ("/") 12.09.05 Join Acksaw [0] (i=Acksaw@spc1-stok5-4-0-cust5.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) 12.09.28 # i see some people on MR saying they got the rockbox bootloader (h300) it is available to download? 12.09.38 # see my reply 12.09.44 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot 12.10.10 # yeh just saw it =] 12.10.10 # Acksaw: keep in mind that it's experimental and poorly tested on international players, and rockbox itself doesnt do a whole lot yet on H3x0 12.10.12 # have you loaded it? 12.10.20 # i got a US h320 12.10.36 # i did not..own a h140 so far 12.10.44 # but some did 12.10.46 # i see 12.10.51 # r???ß? 12.10.53 # i dont know which to download or how to install it... 12.10.53 # did it 12.10.57 # what does it do so far? 12.11.05 Join DangerousDan [0] (n=Miranda@newtpulsifer.campus.luth.se) 12.11.07 # see the thread 12.11.18 # which one? 12.11.36 # the one youve posted 12.11.47 # it doesnt say what it does so far 12.12.10 # so far it doesn't do much, except crash 12.12.16 # *g* 12.12.20 # and not turn off 12.12.31 # and apparently it disables the RTC mode while in standby or whatever :) 12.12.49 # interesting 12.12.55 # see http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=24010 also 12.13.30 # RTC mode? 12.13.48 # so there no real point in using it yet then? 12.13.54 # absolutely not 12.13.54 # LinusN you said rbx will look on boot in .rockbox for *.iriver first 12.14.01 # Acksaw: not unless you're a developer 12.14.05 # alrighty 12.14.10 # muesli_-: yes? 12.14.15 # i can wait =] 12.14.33 # but on http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-h300/rockbox.zip there's no *.iriver in .rockbox 12.14.48 # muesli_-: that's not the bootloader 12.15.18 # i never said that rockbox.iriver would be in .rockbox in the zip files 12.15.34 # i understood it as this would be implemented in general 12.15.34 # it's still in the root for now 12.15.39 # Linus, is there any more pics so far/ 12.15.39 # not yet 12.15.45 # ok :) 12.15.45 # is it just me, or are the misticriver forums shockingly ugly to look at? 12.15.53 # not until most people have upgraded to the new bootloader 12.15.57 # which layout you using? 12.16.02 # ashridah: the black theme? 12.16.03 # ok 12.16.16 # the black is really ugly if you ask me 12.16.19 # I didmn't like the black theme at first... 12.16.20 # ashridah: use the test theme 12.16.28 # its growing on me but i still don't like it! 12.16.30 # makes me depressiv ;) 12.16.50 # i've gotten used to it 12.16.58 # g2g... 12.17.08 # i used to think it was ugly 12.17.20 # see ya muesli 12.17.34 # LinusN: i suspect i need an account first 12.17.44 # think so 12.17.49 # oh -_- 12.18.49 Quit qupada ("We apologise for the inconvenience") 12.19.11 # There is that I take a picture to misticriver. 12.19.31 # It's imitation. 12.19.33 # gotta go for now 12.19.38 # see ya 12.19.51 # bye 12.20.00 # Who is LedFloyd? 12.20.17 Quit Zak1392 () 12.20.37 # he's PinkZeppelin's little brother :-) 12.20.44 # rofl 12.20.59 # I actually think its good that your doing rockbox on a US h300 12.21.12 # why? 12.21.17 # as the int. people get everything before the people with the US 12.21.54 # apparently the firmware seems to work on both, a couple of people have tried it, or something 12.21.57 # or at least, Jungti1234 has 12.22.02 # oh really? you got the wonderful drm, don't you? :) 12.22.04 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=1883.0 - anyone seen this? 12.22.07 # have you got any more pics of rockbox running on the h320? apart from the ones showing the program working? 12.22.11 Quit Maxime (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.22.15 # no 12.22.18 # i don't use the DRM =] 12.23.26 # ? 12.23.37 # sup Jung? 12.23.57 # what? 12.24.22 # you said "?" 12.24.27 # just wondering why 12.24.48 # ghode|afk: i replied 12.24.48 # hehe 12.25.19 # That I have what ? 12.26.01 Join Raskolnikov [0] (n=rodja@host-84-222-99-100.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) 12.26.09 # hi again 12.26.24 # finally i have pictures of rockbox running on h320 eu 12.26.30 # going to resize them 12.26.35 # and upload somewhere 12.26.42 Join Maxime [0] (n=flemmard@fbx.flemmard.net) 12.28.35 Join Lear [0] (n=Lear@h73n11c1o285.bredband.skanova.com) 12.28.50 Join San||Studying [0] (n=Test@213-202-163-136.bas503.dsl.esat.net) 12.31.02 # muesli_-: are you ready?? :) 12.31.37 # http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9038/rockbox0014pa.th.jpg 12.32.14 # hmm 12.32.24 # Picture is small. 12.32.55 # it's not small 12.33.00 # it's miniscule 12.33.05 Join tim66 [0] (n=tim@83.97.39.21) 12.33.20 # remove .th and you 12.33.22 # http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9038/rockbox0014pa.th.jpg 12.33.26 # heh. I'm the screen is almost as small as my desktop icons 12.33.26 # 'll see the full-scale img 12.33.29 # http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9038/rockbox0014pa.jpg 12.33.36 # http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9038/rockbox0014pa.th.jpg 12.33.36 # oh 12.33.38 # hi markun 12.33.41 # this is bigger 12.33.49 # Hi Jungti1234! 12.34.12 # I waited you. 12.34.16 # no, that's not bigger:P 12.34.33 # So, waiting for the bootloader is over. I can make you a unicode version soon 12.34.52 # ok 12.34.57 # here's another one: http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rockbox0024zl.jpg 12.34.57 # Then you can finaly use your korean translation 12.35.12 # Moving is strange in Korea model. 12.35.40 # Moving -> Running..? 12.36.00 # another one: http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rockbox0032lp.jpg 12.36.03 # runing 12.36.19 Quit muesli_- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.36.44 # Jungti1234: i didn't get to see that video before. what's strange about it? 12.36.46 Quit San (Connection timed out) 12.37.02 # hmm 12.37.13 # Menu operates alone. 12.37.23 # LCD is lighted alone. 12.37.29 # alone? 12.37.35 # H300 12.37.41 # not sure 'alone' is the right word 12.38.03 # I didn't apply. 12.38.17 # But, my H300 operates. 12.39.11 # Don't know how must translate. 12.40.27 # ok 12.40.34 # all my pics here: http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?p=342012&posted=1#post342012 12.41.55 Join mashalla [0] (n=dj-dave@p5498C7FD.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.42.28 # That appliance is strange at song playing operate. 12.43.26 # when i try to play a song it all mess up 12.43.35 # no music (obviously) 12.43.44 # but it also seems to receive key presses 12.43.46 # If see video, you are going to understand fast. 12.44.00 # even if i don't touch anything at all 12.44.14 # yes! 12.45.02 # also i've tried to turn on id3 db 12.45.04 # Even if I don't touch, device operates. 12.45.11 # then when i press navigate 12.45.13 # it crashes 12.45.36 # Stop. 12.45.46 # Appliance stops. 12.47.51 # what can bootloader vq do? 12.47.52 Nick San||Studying is now known as San (n=Test@213-202-163-136.bas503.dsl.esat.net) 12.48.04 # all in all, this is a great day for my h320 :) 12.49.42 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@c211-28-93-42.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 12.50.02 Join grimbly [0] (n=56822d26@labb.contactor.se) 12.50.17 # hmm 12.50.34 # HI ALL - just wondering where I can download RB for the H300 - done the bootloader - but can't find the actual RB files... 12.50.54 # My H300 is not normalcy... 12.50.55 # san come on MR ric 12.50.57 # irc* 12.51.07 # kk 12.51.10 # just look at the path for the others builds... ;) 12.51.18 # OK 12.51.19 # ta 12.51.34 # so whats the deal with rockbox and the h320? its sorta working? 12.51.35 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot 12.51.45 # there ya go grimly 12.52.02 # JdGordon: it succesfully boots 12.52.12 # does it play music? 12.52.14 # Yeah - got that and done it. I need the link to the actual Rockbox files not the bootloader 12.52.29 # JdGordon: no 12.52.35 # haha ok 12.53.09 # hey markun 12.53.22 # what does the patching of the firmware do? 12.53.38 # http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/1747/dscn22094no.jpg 12.54.07 # Jungti1234: yes but it's mute ;P 12.54.14 # yes.. 12.54.38 # San: it adds a chunk of code to the original iriver firmware that allows a small part of rockbox to take over and load rockbox from disk 12.54.41 # Do I use the H120 Rockbox binary ? 12.54.50 # can't wait for the day i'll heard my h320 rockboxed spell is first word :P 12.54.55 # grimbly no 12.55.06 # grimbly: i've sent you a private message 12.55.07 # whats the boot time on the h320 with rockbox? 12.55.14 # didn't you received that? 12.55.20 # JdGordon: 5 seconds circa 12.55.22 # No sorry 12.55.25 # San: it adds a chunk of code to the original iriver firmware that allows a small part of rockbox to take over and load rockbox from disk <--- Thanks, and what do I do with the bootloader-h300.bin? 12.55.38 # is it expected to go slower when it works properly? 12.55.38 # grimbly: and now? 12.55.38 # I'm using the webclient... 12.55.42 # JdGordon: 4-5 seconds irrespective of number of files on the player (in the root may be a different story) 12.55.44 # oh 12.55.45 # i see 12.55.47 # You can email me if you like... 12.55.51 # ok 12.55.53 # ok, awesome 12.55.53 # grimbly@fsmail.net 12.55.59 # I want to listen a song. 12.56.01 # * JdGordon is sick of waitng 30sec to listen to music 12.56.09 # San: you need to use a utility to patch it into iriver's firmware. if you have to ask, you probably aren't really interested in rockbox's current state 12.56.31 # i know 12.56.36 # I just wana see it though 12.56.37 Join muesli_- [0] (i=muesli_t@Bc145.b.pppool.de) 12.56.47 # i have patched the firmwate 12.57.03 # muesli 12.57.12 # go to misticriver and see the pics :) 12.57.13 # yepp 12.57.19 # Raskolnikov - yet to get the mail mate.. .Sorry to be a pain 12.57.48 # grimbly: check it now 12.57.58 # Got it cheers! 12.58.04 # San: if you've patched the firmware, why did you ask what to do with bootloader-h300.bin ? 12.58.21 # man the cube is spectacular :P 12.58.22 # I'm going to put H100's firmware to my H300. 12.58.40 # do you want to kill it? 12.58.42 # Jungti1234: what? why? 12.58.51 Join speed123 [0] (n=speed123@p54BB92B2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 12.58.52 # are you trying to make it break? 12.58.55 # OK - HERE GOES!!! 12.59.02 # i patched the firmware with the .exe file, and i downloaded a bootloader-h300.bin file aswell, i tought you needed that 12.59.05 # hahahaha 12.59.13 # San: no, not if you use fwpatcher 12.59.14 # WAAAAAAAHHHHHHHEEEEEEEYYYYYYYY! 12.59.20 # yahahahaaha 12.59.22 # i was so brave to try rockbox on my h320 eu because i wanted an excuse to upgrade it to a h340 :P 12.59.29 # San: the fwpatcher utility contains a copy of bootloader-h300.bin 12.59.35 # oooohhh 12.59.39 # Raskolnikov nice :D 12.59.41 # so just flash my player now? 12.59.50 # but damn.. it worked! 12.59.52 # San: the separate bootloader file is usable if you've got a compiled copy of the rockbox sourcetree, and thus, have a copy of mkboot 13.00.16 # I tried to korea model. 13.00.17 # kk 13.00.18 # :D 13.00.33 # San: as long as you've heeded all the prerequisite warnings, and you understand that rockbox will make your player LESS functional, (apparently the RTC low power mode breaks or something), sure 13.00.39 # Moving is impossible. 13.00.43 # thanks all - shame it doens't play music yet... but it's awesome! 13.00.50 # please little h320... say something... sing a little single note!!! :D 13.00.55 # Device moves alone. 13.01.28 # Jungti1234: we warned you that rockbox is not completely functional on the H300 series yet. 13.01.30 # I don't know that can wait when the problem is ameliorated. 13.01.46 # Jungti1234: if you can, reset the device, and hold 'record' when turning the device on 13.01.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.01.49 # Thanks all 13.01.49 # does someone know if aac created with itunes are better or equal to ogg? 13.01.51 # it should go back to theo riginal firmware 13.01.52 # yes, I saw. 13.01.55 # (should) 13.02.02 # i actually encode all my cd with ogg at 160 13.02.02 Quit grimbly ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 13.02.15 # <-- Just flash the firmware now, and it should all be fine, wont damage the player if it works, right? 13.02.23 # I know. 13.02.32 # but i would like to use a format which i could exchange with my friends using ipoo 13.02.34 # San: i make absolutely no garuntees, and take no responsibility 13.02.45 # i know 13.03.04 # * San is going to flash 13.03.14 # San: and so far as i know, you should even still be able to reflash it with the original firmware, provided you can boot bakc into iriver's original firmware by holding record. 13.03.29 Join Bger_cgiirc [0] (n=d5f0dcba@labb.contactor.se) 13.03.32 # ok 13.03.36 # guys, hi :) 13.03.36 # thanks 13.03.41 # hi 13.03.46 # hi bger 13.03.53 # is there any point flashing the h320 now? like apart form boot, can it do anything? 13.04.00 # or is it just the wank factor? 13.04.01 # just patched international h340 with the bootloader 13.04.08 # the latter JdGordon 13.04.13 # ehehhe 13.04.14 # lol 13.04.14 # yeah 13.04.18 # JdGordon: from what people said, the cube plugin looks decent... :) 13.04.29 # whats the cube plugin? 13.04.34 # where can i find the rockbox binari itself ? 13.04.43 # s/binari/binary 13.04.44 # San: itdisplays a rotating 3d cube 13.04.44 # this san: http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/6561/rockbox0076fy.jpg 13.04.51 # ah 13.04.57 # hehe 13.04.58 Quit curio (Remote closed the connection) 13.05.04 # I tried. 13.05.05 # Bger_cgiirc: search the irc logs, the daily build is actually on rockbox.org, it's just not linked on one of the daily build pages 13.05.21 # 10x, ashridah 13.05.22 # minesweeper, pong and tetris :D 13.05.26 # * JdGordon goes to flash 13.05.30 # snake works to 13.05.32 # too 13.05.41 # so you can use your h300 to play :P 13.06.03 # http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-h300/rockbox.zip 13.06.07 # * ashridah notes that this is all that worked when he first put rockbox on his iriver H140 13.06.13 # Bger_cgiirc: that's the one 13.06.15 # where can i find all these pics? 13.06.27 Join Wett [0] (n=wett@l04m-212-194-56-90.d4.club-internet.fr) 13.06.27 # Acksaw: i think Raskolnikov is taking them himself 13.06.35 # ahh 13.06.39 # Acksaw: here: http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?p=342012&posted=1#post342012 13.06.44 # 7 pics 13.06.52 # Acksaw: you can download the daily log from www.rockbox.org/irc/ and search for .jpg 13.06.56 # that'll find any posted today 13.07.00 # or that 13.07.19 # art brut i see 13.07.22 # nice=] 13.07.35 # what will happen now if i plug it in the ac for recharging? 13.07.51 # Raskolnikov: the player will give you a gold piece 13.07.58 # rreally? 13.08.00 # i guess i have to start iriver firmware before doing that 13.08.01 # * ashridah has no idea :) 13.08.02 # hahahha 13.08.10 # lets try 13.08.21 # what happens when it says firmware loades 13.08.26 # results: -1 13.08.26 # ? 13.08.30 # and then turns off? 13.08.37 # yes 13.08.51 # what is that 13.08.53 # San:you need to also copy the contents of a rockbox.zip (such as the daily build Bger_cgiirc mentioned just before) into the root of the player 13.09.03 # could ave told me that 13.09.04 # :P 13.09.12 # or it won't find a rockbox firmware to actually load (odd, i thought it was supposed to fail over to the iriver firmware by default) 13.09.19 # San: i thought i did. 13.09.23 # no 13.09.24 # lol 13.09.38 # "ashridah San: it adds a chunk of code to the original iriver firmware that allows a small part of rockbox to take over and load rockbox from disk" 13.09.44 # i believe i mentioned the 'from disk' bit 13.09.50 # not my fault you didn't ask for clarification ;) 13.09.58 # oh 13.10.00 # my ba 13.10.01 # anyway, hold record, it should boot the original firmware 13.10.02 # *bad 13.10.06 # Raskolnikov query 13.10.06 # nice 13.10.07 # i am shaking 13.10.11 # :P 13.10.14 # if you plug the ac adapter 13.10.16 # lol san 13.10.18 # tought it was gone 13.10.18 # * Bger_cgiirc dances the "first rockbox boot" dance 13.10.19 # you can copy rockbox onto it then. (or possibly the usb-from-flash mode of rockbox will work, not sure) 13.10.23 # it automagically starts default iriver firmware 13.10.23 # many 10x to all of you, guys 13.10.33 # where can I get the rockbox.zip? 13.10.35 # Raskolnikov: interesting. player must use a different entry point 13.10.42 # San: look back in the logs. 13.10.44 # yes 13.10.46 # http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-h300/rockbox.zip 13.10.49 # here 13.10.56 # ty 13.10.57 # Raskolnikov query 13.11.11 # i've sent you a message muesli_- 13.11.16 Join Febs [0] (n=cfac7a51@labb.contactor.se) 13.11.16 # haven't you received that? 13.11.29 # Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg ) 13.11.30 # Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg ) 13.11.39 # oh 13.11.41 # i see 13.11.44 # let's register.. 13.11.45 Join Guest70021 [0] (n=a@cpc1-asht1-3-0-cust160.manc.cable.ntl.com) 13.11.52 Nick solexx_ is now known as solexx (n=jrschulz@c187199.adsl.hansenet.de) 13.11.56 # hmm? 13.11.58 # ./query muesli_- will do it too ;) 13.12.18 # ok 13.12.23 # without . of course 13.12.24 # lets try 13.12.27 # hey febs 13.12.28 # I don't become though I registered. 13.12.42 # sure 13.12.43 # wow, reboot is *really* fast 13.12.51 # yes 13.12.53 # really 13.12.58 # wonderful 13.13.09 # received something muesly? 13.13.10 # so, is there a high risk of using rbx? 13.13.12 # hm, peakmeter works :) 13.13.23 # nope... Raskolnikov 13.13.24 # Acksaw: given that it currently doesn't work perfectly, i'd say so 13.13.36 # have icq or msn? 13.13.38 # Acksaw: noone can be sure enough to say "no" 13.13.38 # damn u ppl.... im flashing my beast 13.13.42 # i see 13.13.51 # 138642073 13.13.57 # ok 13.14.05 # 1 brick out of about 15 13.14.14 # the chance is still there... 13.14.22 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=1883.0 13.14.22 # Acksaw: it doesn't look fatal, and if the unit's not dead enough to load the original firmware, it *should* be able to reflash with a clean unpatched firmware and be fine 13.14.34 # how did you do that ashridah ? 13.14.35 # it isn't working for me 13.14.38 # Acksaw: we've actually had a brick? 13.14.44 # yes ash 13.14.48 # muesli_-: do what? 13.14.49 # in the rbx forum 13.14.54 # wheres the prehacked h320 firmware? 13.14.54 # whoa 13.14.56 # brick it 13.14.59 # cool 13.15.05 # JdGordon: 'prehacked'? 13.15.13 # What to find password should I do? 13.15.29 # * Bger_cgiirc is so pleased ... 13.15.30 # so rb loads 13.15.32 # i copied the .rockbox folder into the root of My H300 and it isn't working 13.16.02 # try that trick.. 13.16.09 # 1) Reset it 13.16.09 # 2) Hold Rec and ON for a second or two 13.16.24 # JdGordon: there won't be any official prepatched iriver firmwares 13.16.44 # rockbox cannot and will not risk distributing them, since that'd be fuel for iriver to sue them 13.16.53 # ok, where is the link to the install it yourself page.. i cant find it again :'( 13.16.57 # ok 13.17.02 # going to lunch 13.17.03 # talk later 13.17.05 # bye 13.17.09 # WOW, cube is amazing :) 13.17.23 # im gonna start a poll on MR 13.17.31 # the JPG viewer on the h100 is more amazing 13.17.33 # iriver firmware works, rockbox doesn't 13.17.33 Quit Raskolnikov (Connection reset by peer) 13.17.42 # about successful and unsuccesful flashing 13.17.47 # San: you unzipped the .zip file into the root of the player? 13.18.00 # yes 13.18.09 # and there is a .rockbox folder 13.18.16 # interesting. does it still give out the same error? 13.18.25 # yes 13.18.31 # results: -1 13.18.36 # and then just turns off 13.18.38 # and is there a rockbox.iriver file in the root or in .rockbox/ ? 13.19.06 # nope 13.19.10 # is there ment to be? 13.19.16 # then you didn't unzip the rockbox.zip file properly ;) 13.19.20 # it did 13.19.37 # -1 means that rockbox.iriver was not found 13.19.47 # aaaah, see it now 13.20.00 # so, do I copy the rockbox folder, or the .rockbox folder? 13.20.29 # the player needs to contain rockbox.iriver either in the root of the device, OR in .rockbox 13.20.39 # ok 13.20.50 # http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=32130 13.21.02 # that file shoudl be in the rockbox.zip Bger_cgiirc linked you to 13.21.14 # it was 13.21.25 # but i just extracted the .rockbox folder by accident 13.21.27 # :\ 13.21.32 # heh :) 13.21.40 # works :D 13.21.42 # OMG 13.22.02 # haha, bug 13.22.08 # the magic smoke is escaping! is there a patch? 13.22.14 # lol 13.22.40 # btw, its obvious that this is one of the first color players, which rockbox runs on 13.22.41 # so, is it working san? 13.22.45 # yes 13.22.47 # http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=32130 13.23.03 # everyone go there and put if you successfully flashed! 13.23.09 # when scrolling the files, if you hold the down button to long, it keeps going 13.23.24 # * ashridah suspects there needs to be a fair bit of clearing up of misconceptions about the differences between rockbox and rockbox's bootloader on misticriver ;) 13.23.45 # San: yeah, that's probably related to bugs the H1x0 had a while back. they'll get sorted in time. 13.23.56 # I wish all the noobs would just sail their own sea sometimes 13.24.02 # I really dislike the new look of misticriver 13.24.03 # im probably gonna flash in the next few days 13.24.22 # if you can't even read the information in the wiki, I won't have much pity with you 13.24.22 # Acksaw: i'd give it a few weeks so the devs can have a good poke at things. 13.24.24 # looks like something ppl though twas "cool" about 5 yearsa go 13.24.29 # yeh 13.24.31 # good idea 13.24.33 # now that the bootloader exists, expect things to speed up a fair bit 13.24.36 # any1 got the h300.hex file ? its taking ages to dl from the iriver site 13.24.43 # mostly it'll be work with drivers, i suspect. 13.24.45 # [12:23] I wish all the noobs would just sail their own sea sometimes <-- Thanks :D 13.24.57 # JD im pretty sure i have one 13.25.04 # dont get me wrong 13.25.04 # thegeek: heh, subtle. :) 13.25.08 # with, different boot and load screens 13.25.13 # boot and shutdown* 13.25.14 # I have nothing against "new" people 13.25.27 # i am'nt new, just new to rockboc 13.25.29 # it's just the "noob" attitude I really dont like 13.25.30 # *rockbox 13.25.36 # have a look at my profile on MR 13.25.41 # ah dw.. almost finished 13.25.42 # thegeek: tossing people headfirst into the wiki is a quick way to get them lost in trivia on the devs really want to know about 13.25.50 # everyone was new once, and that's ok as long as you act and behave intelligently 13.26.05 # http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=32130 everyone please vote! 13.26.05 # where is the cube plugin? 13.26.08 # true ashridah 13.26.10 # * Bger_cgiirc tryes the dircache 13.26.21 # but if they can't understand the information in the wiki 13.26.28 # rockbox is not really for them 13.26.31 # the wiki is terrible 13.26.36 # atleast not right now 13.26.49 # hey. what are the pixel dimensions of the LCD on the remote? 13.26.52 # San: press whatever button brings up the menu ('a-b' on the H1x0, not sure on the H3x0) and go to 'browse plugins' 13.26.54 # it'll be in there 13.27.01 # the same, A-B 13.27.11 # ah, ty 13.27.17 # btw, does the rockbox shut down now on low battery ? 13.27.22 # no menu is on a-b 13.27.28 # menu is on record 13.27.28 # there's no remote WPS added to the wiki yet 13.28.26 Quit ashridah ("sleep") 13.28.30 # Voted. 13.28.49 # A-B 13.29.18 # ok so is this right.. i dl the iriver firmware and bootloader.bin and run fwpatchernu.exe on the .hex and all is done? 13.29.21 # * Bger_cgiirc goes home to charge his player 13.29.46 # nice day all and thanx again for this beast :) 13.29.48 # * Acksaw np: Test-Icicles - Your Biggest Mistake [04:07m/192Kbps/44KHz] 13.29.56 Quit Bger_cgiirc ("CGI:IRC") 13.30.03 # wrong JdGordon 13.30.04 # text works 13.30.16 # i wanna do it! 13.30.16 # no need for the bootloader if you're using fwpatcher 13.30.22 # ok 13.30.40 # download the fw and fwpatcher, run fwpatcher, select the BIOS and it'll patch it. Then flash 13.30.41 # so just run fwpatcher and pray? 13.30.43 # ahh the different text viewing modes are cool 13.31.02 # well, run fwpatcher and you'll have to browse for the fw 13.31.02 # if i do go wrong is there a chance to reflash to original iriver FW? 13.31.11 # here goes nothing.... 13.31.23 # *fingers crosssed for JD* 13.31.29 # loading.... 13.31.57 # do not touch while firware upgrading... 13.31.59 # everyone please go here... http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=32130 13.32.21 # that's going to get a bit annoying pretty quickly I think Acksaw 13.32.28 # thats my last time 13.32.41 # hey acksaw 13.32.44 # yeh? 13.33.05 # Is http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-h300/rockbox.zip the correct rockbox install to use for the H300 or should i use the normal rockbox? 13.33.07 # My H300 malfunctions. 13.33.14 # wtf?? i got the iriver firware 13.33.18 # i hope the poll doesnt mean 80% of you bricked your players .. 13.33.30 # whoops 13.33.33 # use that one stu3 13.33.41 # i forgot tthe option for bricked it 13.33.44 # Thanks Coldtoast. 13.33.46 # that's the absolute most recent one 13.33.46 # * JdGordon copied the .zip to the playa 13.33.54 # Acksaw, your poll options are ambiguous. 13.33.54 # what else did i need to do? 13.34.13 # Just about to try the 1.28K patched firmware on a H340. 13.34.15 # Does "Yes, with a few problems" mean problems installing the bootloader or problems running Rockbox? 13.34.17 # JdGordon: you need to copy Rockbox to the player now 13.34.23 # use the link stu3 just posted 13.34.25 # both febs 13.34.27 # febs 13.34.30 # can you edit the poll for me? 13.34.37 # unzip that file to the root of the player 13.34.48 # how do i get up plugins? 13.34.51 # That's not useful, because everyone will have problems running Rockbox, considering that among other things, sound is not yet implemented. 13.34.53 # the reason you're getting the iriver fw is you don't have Rockbox on your player yet 13.34.56 # that doesn't see to work? 13.34.59 # i forgot to add "No, I bricked my player" 13.35.02 # Coldtoast: the rockbox,zip? 13.35.10 # yep. unzip it to the root 13.35.16 # i did 13.35.35 # how do i get into the menu? A-B? 13.35.45 # Wish me luck lads :-). 13.35.52 # yup 13.35.59 # i felt the same :D 13.36.07 # holy crasp 13.36.09 # it works 13.36.13 # i know 13.36.15 # lol 13.36.20 # needed to restart it again 13.36.29 Join NicoFR [0] (n=nico404@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 13.36.35 # the screen is tiny 13.37.00 # how do I get to the screen where a song is playing? 13.37.17 # seems to be laagy 13.37.24 # Jd 13.37.31 # i hear you gotta take it slow to avoid crashign 13.37.37 # ah 13.37.45 # that would be why it just crashed 13.37.47 # resetgin 13.37.48 # JdGordon: go to the prefs and "Browse for .wps" 13.37.52 # Acksaw, take a look at the revisions to the poll. 13.38.07 # Rockbox is skinnable 13.38.08 # Sweeeeet, it works :-D. 13.38.08 # thats perfect! 13.38.21 # Thats an international player as well ;-). 13.38.30 # thanks Febs 13.38.34 # hahaha, upsidedown lcd mode 13.39.17 # hey! 13.39.52 # Who edited the vote? 13.39.57 # I did. 13.40.12 # hey febs 13.40.20 # Yes? 13.40.27 # I don't select. 13.40.43 # I did not select that. 13.40.49 # What should your vote be? 13.41.01 # [12:40] Yes? <--- Just saying Hey :P 13.41.03 # cude does look cool :D 13.41.07 # * JdGordon goes to vote yes 13.41.10 # San: Ah. 13.41.18 # I cant find the cube 13.41.29 # under browse plugins 13.41.36 # hold AB? 13.42.08 Quit ghode|afk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.42.13 Quit muesli_- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.42.44 # haha, most of these plugins are suelss 13.42.52 # 'Yes, I had a few problems, but got the bootloader installed.' <- This vote must. 13.42.56 # are they? 13.43.04 # snow and starfield 13.43.09 # and other screensavers 13.43.15 # you call them "useless", I call them "proof of concept" 13.43.22 # holding a-b brings me to a screen where i have to press left, right, and down to change modes 13.43.29 Join Philip [0] (n=Miranda@user-5567.lns1-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk) 13.43.30 # nicely said taoast ;) 13.43.31 # right :D 13.43.39 # The vote is seemed to mistake. :( 13.43.50 # Jung, tell febs 13.43.54 # where can i download the rockbox files for H300??? 13.43.56 # is there any plugins that record most listend to tracks, and logs which tracks were played? 13.44.09 # Well, all i can say is the bootloader works well :-). 13.44.23 # iv'e got the bootloader 13.44.24 # I changed the count to reflect Jungti's vote. 13.44.29 # enable "Gather Runtime Info" 13.44.38 # stay away from the batterytest plugin 13.44.42 # i tinhk it crashes the h320 13.44.50 # no... it just takes ages 13.44.52 # ignore that 13.45.01 # thanks for Febs 13.45.21 # would anyone want to make a walkthrough for MR? 13.45.33 # JdGordon: you should have a good old play first and then post thoughts I reckon. rather than mention everything as you check it out :) 13.45.44 # Acksaw, it already exists on the wikimanual. 13.45.48 # * JdGordon is too excited 13.45.52 # heh 13.45.53 # its like a new toy again :D 13.46.16 # where can i download rockbox.iriver and the .rockbox directory 13.46.21 Quit bbad (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.46.30 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ManualRockboxInstall#iriver_jukeboxes 13.46.38 # http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-h300/rockbox.zip 13.47.06 # I'll need to make a few changes to reflect the H300 (including putting a big warning) but the process is the same. 13.47.13 # Jungti1234: "My H300 malfunctions"??? 13.47.17 # time to make an image .rwps I think 13.47.20 # is that for H300 as well ?? 13.47.28 # Anyone sussed out if playback works with any codec yet? 13.47.45 # playback works with .ogg, .flac, .mp3, .wav 13.47.49 # wait 13.47.50 # reboot 13.47.52 # to name 4 13.48.05 # On the H300? 13.48.05 # Coldtoast: on 320? 13.48.20 # oh. dunno there 13.48.20 # My H300 does strange moving. 13.48.33 # LinusN : he's having problems with rockbox itself 13.48.36 # I just acquired an Amiga 500 on a fleamarket! 13.48.39 # lol, mp3 hasn't worked for me so far. 13.48.40 # it seems he can boot into rockbox just fine 13.48.40 # Although translation is strange.. 13.48.42 # it's just buggy 13.48.47 # so nothing unexpected 13.48.55 # what are you going to do with it dwihno? 13.49.38 # Coldtoast: I haven 13.49.41 # LinusN: Translation is strange, but my H300 is not normalcy. 13.49.43 # 't tested if it works even :) 13.49.46 Join jelle-k [0] (n=jelle-k@jelle-online.xs4all.nl) 13.49.49 # any expansions? 13.49.51 # whats car adaptor mode? 13.49.51 # Jungti1234: what is wrong? 13.49.54 # or is it vanilla? 13.49.54 # cube is cool 13.49.55 # :P 13.50.09 # My mistake is not. 13.50.16 # Coldtoast: So if it does, I'll probably try to get a new mouse (or PS/2 converter, if there are such) and play old games and perhaps try some m68k assembly 13.50.20 # LinusN: your a legend dude :D 13.50.35 # LinusN : he even posted a movie 13.50.38 # Coldtoast: Seems like some kind of 512k memory module is installed 13.50.47 # because it was hard for him to explain what was wrong 13.50.49 # cool. you should have at least that 13.50.52 Join pinkutank [0] (n=ddd@85.101.96.60) 13.50.53 # ok silly q.. how do u turn it off now? 13.50.57 # LinusN: no, rockbox's mistake is not. 13.51.05 # Jungti1234: i don't care if it is your mistake or not, i want to know what is wrong with your h300 13.51.15 # haha, snake! 13.51.16 # JdGordon: hold off 13.51.24 # me was 100% Amiga, and had been for since the late 80s, up intul about 1997 13.51.29 # http://rapidshare.de/files/7890601/DSCN2203.MOV.html 13.51.30 # me=I 13.51.37 # I think that is the link he posted earlier 13.51.54 # :p works well on my h320... cept for pressing buttons too quickly 13.51.57 # from about 1987-1997, I was all Amiga based 13.51.59 # I took much videoes. 13.52.14 # jdgordon: car adaptor mode is for the archos players. ignore it. 13.52.16 # Coldtoast: What can you use a 500 for? :) Except gaming, that is... 13.52.20 # ok 13.52.24 # damn 13.52.30 # i cant download from rapidshare 13.52.54 # you can do LOADS of great things with them 13.52.57 # i am uploading a video of the cube to putfile ATM 13.53.04 # but you'll need to spend money on expansions 13.53.09 # http://rapidshare.de/files/7889196/DSCN2196.MOV.html 13.53.13 # http://rapidshare.de/files/7890248/DSCN2200.MOV.html 13.53.16 # You have downloaded 38493 KB in one hour. Want to download more? 13.53.16 # silly q... can the default firware be changed to load iriver instead of rb? 13.53.17 # there 13.53.20 # i havent downloaded anything. 13.53.22 # those are the links he pasted 13.53.22 # what are those the geek 13.53.26 # you1 1MB Amiga can do a lot, but accelerators and HDD expansions will tranfsorm it 13.53.27 # anyway 13.53.28 # http://rapidshare.de/files/7889196/DSCN2196.MOV.html 13.53.30 # Jungti1234's movies 13.53.34 # "You have downloaded 38493 KB in one hour. Want to download more?" even though i have downloaded nothing 13.53.37 # http://rapidshare.de/files/7890248/DSCN2200.MOV.html 13.53.40 # who and what is he 13.53.43 # Coldtoast: Is it hard to attach some hard disk? 13.53.46 # Jung, can you host that elsewhere? 13.53.59 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-123-128.VIC.netspace.net.au) 13.54.01 # nope. you plug em into the edge connector on the left hand side 13.54.07 # what? 13.54.07 # OMG, pong 13.54.12 # i don't understand 13.54.17 # i don't get it, DSCN2203.mov shows a working rockbox 13.54.17 # Coldtoast: There's a regular IDE connector there? 13.54.21 # Jung, i cannot download from rapidhsare 13.54.21 # it's an external unit with HDD and accelerator 13.54.26 # is he a toaster? a dev? how does he smell, what did he do? 13.54.28 # LinusN : as I was trying to say 13.54.34 # again: what is wrong with it? 13.54.34 # T.T 13.54.35 # I think he's just trying to say that it's buggy 13.54.54 # Translation is hard. 13.54.56 # he's like from japan or something 13.54.56 # ;) 13.55.00 # there is a but in pong, the oppont doesn't move, but he still beats me 13.55.01 # thegeek: korea 13.55.02 # i give up 13.55.03 # * whatboutbob starts a recording battery test on his H120 with 2200mAh battery. 13.55.04 # ah 13.55.05 # sorry;) 13.55.06 # Coldtoast: I remember my brother having a IDE cable running from the amiga to an external plastic casing... 13.55.08 # prolly just best to do some googling dwihno 13.55.11 # It is hard that speak all by translation. 13.55.15 # Coldtoast: probably :) 13.55.22 # he probably had an A1200? 13.55.23 # Coldtoast: How about using PS2-mice on the amiga? 13.55.29 # I think teh A500 might be SCSI 13.55.36 # so is he an alien? 13.55.36 # Coldtoast: Naaeeeeh, I think it was a A500... 13.55.42 # ok 13.55.46 # im gonna do it guys 13.55.53 # do what 13.55.54 Join ghode|afk [0] (i=testing@host-84-9-104-184.bulldogdsl.com) 13.55.59 # flash rbx 13.56.03 # anyway. google the Amiga :) 13.56.08 # amy i ask for what reason 13.56.14 # anyway of making the screen stay on for longer? 13.56.16 # Coldtoast: jes. will do :) 13.56.39 # ok, the "first dead h340" is alive 13.56.44 # wow 13.56.46 # nice work 13.56.52 # what did you do? 13.56.53 # im gonna have to flash it now 13.57.07 # http://media.putfile.com/Cube---Rockbox 13.57.09 # linusn, what do you mean 13.57.12 # sory for the bad quality 13.57.15 # Installation instructions can be found here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ManualRockboxInstall#iriver_jukeboxes 13.57.16 # by dead 13.57.22 # you mean iriver fw 13.57.23 # ? 13.57.31 # LinusN: I'm using Korea model. Even if I do not touch it, LCD is lighted, and selects menu. 13.57.40 # Along with a warning that Rockbox for H300 is at this time mean only for developers. 13.58.02 # LinusN: Can know if see video. 13.58.04 # mean=meant 13.58.26 # monkeys 13.58.31 # this is crowded 13.58.32 # san the video doesnt work 13.58.49 # it should 13.58.50 # grr.. it keeps thinkign im pressing NAVI :< 13.58.56 # JD 13.59.03 # that is when audio is playing 13.59.08 # restart the player 13.59.16 # Acksaw, works for me 13.59.20 # ohhh it was that cube you were talking about 13.59.39 # <^BeN^> someone try to install rockbox on H320 eu? 13.59.45 # oh ok... i have to find the optoin to stop it restarting the playing on boot.. 14.00.36 # LinusN : I love you 14.00.37 # :S 14.00.37 # :P 14.00.38 # Linus you are a genius!!! 14.00.43 # hahaha 14.00.44 # :) 14.01.08 # 3 cheers for linusN 14.01.10 # hip hip 14.01.14 # hooray 14.01.18 # hip hip 14.01.22 # hooray 14.01.24 # yahoo! 14.01.27 # horay 14.01.29 # lol 14.01.33 # :D 14.01.38 # <^BeN^> LOL 14.01.55 # ??? how do i get out of battery test ??? 14.02.01 Quit DreamTactix291 (No route to host) 14.02.02 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-133-209.pools.arcor-ip.net) 14.02.20 # right.. so when do the games get ported to work on the bigger screen :D 14.02.22 # <^BeN^> [14:59:44] <^BeN^> someone try to install rockbox on H320 eu? 14.02.41 # mine was originally eu 14.02.48 # but i use k firmware 14.03.12 # mine was from china i tihnk and works fine with the k fw and rb 14.03.15 # Ben, someone has done it but it is recommended 14.03.40 # i thourght i had broken it to start with because i hadn't copied the rockbox files :) 14.03.49 # Philip: Does it operate well? 14.03.54 # <^BeN^> ok mmm patched to rockbox? 14.03.56 # i think so 14.04.08 # but im stuck in battery test :( 14.04.26 # should i reset or just wait??? 14.04.28 # i'm slightly worried about all the non-developer installs... 14.04.41 # playing music. 14.04.45 Join iobound [0] (n=iobound@221.80-203-3.nextgentel.com) 14.04.59 # i fully understand its my fault when i do anything wrong 14.05.13 # LinusN: yes, given the one person on the forum who seems to be having issues. 14.05.17 # what how is it playing music?? 14.05.18 # Do not you have any problem? 14.05.31 # <^BeN^> linusn did you recommend to wait? 14.05.43 # Philip: the unit will probably decode music, just not output it, thus, it will display the WPS, i imagine 14.05.44 # of course 14.05.51 # yes 14.06.03 # gives error cannot load codec 14.06.08 # <^BeN^> ok 14.06.20 # @ LinusN: you see how popluar Rockbox for H320 is, everyone wants it and many risk it 14.06.30 # :-) 14.06.33 # play the music 14.06.48 # * ashridah notes he has to admit it only took him a few days to cave and flash his H140 after the bootloader came out 14.07.06 # i think i lasted about 5 mins... 14.07.07 # cube looks cool 14.07.11 # LinusN: Can you solve this problem? 14.07.22 # what problem? 14.07.26 # <^BeN^> mm linus what more need for realese the beta version 14.07.29 # <^BeN^> ? 14.07.33 # -_-; 14.07.38 # I talked all short time ago. 14.07.51 # I'm using Korea model. Even if I do not touch it, LCD is lighted, and selects menu. 14.08.03 # * whatboutbob has no regrets it took him months to come around. caution is the better part of valour...whatever the hell that means... 14.08.07 # there is no korea model 14.08.12 # Jungti1234 : that is normal right now 14.08.12 # @jungti 14.08.15 # Jungti1234: did you try to play music? 14.08.22 # tes 14.08.23 # yes 14.08.26 # don't 14.08.38 # _FireFly_: what are the pixel dimensions of the remote LCD? 14.08.42 # * iobound wonders what part of "for developers only" is hard to understand... 14.08.48 # it will boost the cpu frequency to 120MHz and the button driver goes ballistic 14.08.54 # aha.. 14.09.01 # hehe 14.09.12 # hehe after 4 hours an answer ;p 14.09.17 # It's normal? 14.09.18 # from now on: DO NOT ask why things don't work 14.09.21 # why does it boot into iriver after plugging into the comp? 14.09.26 # ok, ginore that 14.09.33 # ,-) 14.09.41 # lol 14.09.45 # Jungti1234 : rockbox is not finished 14.09.54 # I know :) 14.10.00 # you have to wait 14.10.06 # gotta go, cu guys 14.10.08 Part LinusN 14.10.09 # It's v1 yet. 14.10.19 # yes 14.10.21 # or 14.10.23 # now, this isn't what i call the usual sunday #rockbox traffic 14.10.24 # 0.0001 14.10.25 # I can wait. 14.10.26 # Linus got pissed ^^ 14.10.26 # very early version 14.10.31 # Jungti1234: the BOOTLOADER is v1. rockbox itself is NOT FINISHED 14.10.38 # relax relax 14.10.42 # I thank to linus. 14.10.47 Quit iobound ("Leaving") 14.10.54 # I admire Jungti1234's perseverence 14.10.55 # so who's bricked their h3x0 yet? 14.11.01 # speed123: no, i doubt it, more like he has a life :) 14.11.04 # preglow: someone on misticriver's having issues 14.11.05 # the poor guy has been sitting with a translator all this time 14.11.12 # thegeek: longer than you know. 14.11.17 # oh I know 14.11.23 # he's been coming here for a long time 14.11.25 # he's been a regular for the last month or two iirc. 14.11.31 # he tends to be here in the middle of the night 14.11.38 # and so do I 14.11.41 # ;) 14.11.44 # I know ashridah 14.11.52 # as I said 14.11.55 # haha 14.11.57 # I admire his perseverence 14.12.09 # Jungti1234: the BOOTLOADER is v1 - v6 actually :/ 14.12.11 # and the rockbox people were having bad thoughts about the ipod users 14.12.17 # ghode|afk: v1 for h3xx ^^ 14.12.22 # *perseverance 14.12.24 # bah 14.12.35 # what is perseverance? 14.12.36 # ghode|afk: the H300 is v1 14.12.36 # preglow: The difference is that regular ipod users don't know about Rockbox yet. 14.12.40 # Jungti1234 : patience 14.12.50 # i really hope the ipod port comes along, i can't wait to dump my h140 14.12.59 # ^^ thanks 14.13.09 # i'll but the H140 off you 14.13.10 # :P 14.13.14 # I can wait for H300. 14.13.14 # http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Aperseverance 14.13.16 # sure \o. 14.13.43 # I wish the nano had 20gb 14.13.43 # you couldn't pay me to have an ipod 14.13.46 # then I'd switch;) 14.13.50 # linuxstb: i seriously doubt there will be many ipod converts if rbx doesnt find a way to support itunes 14.13.50 # preglow: Did you start looking at the iFP interrupt code? 14.14.01 # linuxstb: yes, it's on the way and should be done during the day 14.14.01 # H140 is fricking awesome 14.14.03 # Until boot loader work is completed, I waited. 14.14.13 # OMG 14.14.13 # :) 14.14.13 # H140 is too thick :/ 14.14.17 # OF course 14.14.21 # * DMJC smacks forehead 14.14.23 # hu.... 14.14.29 # ghode|afk: you know, that's never bothered me. 14.14.33 # If the nano got fat32 and worked like a mass storage usb device, I could be a convert ;) 14.14.37 # ghode|afk: Why would a Rockbox user want to use iTunes? iTunes only supports a tiny number of the audio codecs Rockbox does. 14.14.38 # * DMJC just realized something 14.14.38 # * thegeek smack's DMJC's forehead too 14.14.45 # H140 is awesome size BTW 14.14.49 # it's fine 14.14.58 # I'm trying to case mod a G5 14.15.01 # no a rockbox user wouldn't, but an ipod/itunes convert would want it 14.15.03 # The Korea is night that is late. 14.15.05 # I just figured something out 14.15.15 # bye 14.15.18 # 2:15 PM here :P 14.15.26 # ashridah: it's not bad, but the ipod has it on size, plus a bigger and colour screen 14.15.27 # I'm appreciative all todays. 14.15.28 # why bother porting rockbox to ipod? 14.15.31 # jelle-k: holy crap, you mean the earth is round? :) 14.15.32 # they already have linux 14.15.37 # for fun? 14.15.37 # why not? 14.15.39 # :P 14.15.42 # why port to ihp :p 14.15.43 # port to something with a crappier firmware 14.15.47 # gnight all. 14.15.47 # heh 14.15.47 # good night Jungti1234 ;) 14.15.49 # The Korea is 22:15. 14.15.50 # ghode|afk: yeah, except that colour existed for neither platform back when i got my H140 :) 14.15.51 # IHP firmware sucks? 14.15.53 # lol Rockbox to the Rescue 14.15.57 # good night thegeek 14.15.59 # same here :) 14.16.03 # and the ipods were going through a huge string of manufacturing issues at the time 14.16.08 # Everybody good night 14.16.09 # why not make rockbox more popular than it already is...? 14.16.10 # it crashes when i try to play music 14.16.11 # don't get me wrong, my ihp has treated me well for the year i've had it 14.16.22 # last I heard, noone complains about the ipod firmware 14.16.23 Quit Jungti1234 ("Bye Bye~ http://cafe.naver.com/iriverh300") 14.16.26 # why not make rockbox the best? 14.16.35 # jelle-k: of course it does. 14.16.39 # :P 14.16.39 # but i won't something new, and with rbx otw to ipod, the only wall agasint me getting one might be gone soon 14.16.45 # DMJC: Lots of people complain about lack of gapless playback. 14.16.53 # but when rockbox overtakes the ipod firmware, im sure we will hear some complaining... 14.17.03 # heh 14.17.26 Part whatboutbob 14.17.27 # rbx is already better then the ipod firmware >< 14.17.28 # time to get out the old cad modeller 14.17.30 # and measuring tape 14.17.43 # need to figure out my sizes 14.18.27 # I don't see why you want to do that DMJC 14.18.35 # imho the g5 case is really boring 14.18.38 # it's "ok" 14.18.40 # but not nice 14.18.57 # and I really hate the handlebars 14.18.59 # moment of truth... 14.19.09 # It'll be nice when it's got a nice blue glow coming from the grill 14.19.13 # ok im upgrading 14.19.16 # handles are ok 14.19.23 # sure 14.19.27 # they are practical 14.19.28 # * ashridah notes you people are nuts 14.19.29 # but really ugly;) 14.19.38 # hehe 14.19.39 # nah 14.19.39 # ashridah 14.19.42 # don't complain 14.19.43 # it looks nice from the front 14.19.55 Join muesli_- [0] (i=muesli_t@Bc0bc.b.pppool.de) 14.20.01 # I know he hangs with icculus... he's as nuts as the rest of us 14.20.02 # this way none of th devs will ever have b0rked h3xx's 14.20.02 # thegeek: i mean for flashing yet not being developers. :) 14.20.15 # yes? 14.20.43 # hey, what are the .wps's called for the H300? .rwps? 14.20.45 # DMJC: i'm just a groupie. 14.20.47 # means less turn around time when getting working firmware heh 14.20.54 # just download, unzip and go 14.20.56 # :D 14.21.02 # heh 14.22.48 # San rwps are for the Remote 14.23.10 # aaahh, ok 14.23.49 Join iobound [0] (n=iobound@221.80-203-3.nextgentel.com) 14.23.53 # create a dim setting for the backlight 14.24.01 # can save tons of battery over that 14.25.07 # anyway I can make the screen stay on for longer? 14.25.13 # pinkutank: iirc, the H3x0 has dimming circuits built in, but they suck 14.25.28 # San: there should be an option to set the amount of time the backlight stays on 14.25.41 # any idea where? 14.26.03 # press a-b and go general->display->LCD settings 14.26.07 # pwm dims? 14.26.25 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.26.37 # aaahh 14.26.39 # got it, TY 14.26.48 # pinkutank: not sure how the hardware does it 14.26.58 # but PWM will typically jack the cpu usage up a fair bit 14.27.06 # which will actually cause power usage to increase :) 14.27.45 # how to i get to the plugins? 14.27.46 # from file list 14.28.03 # press A-B 14.28.08 # has anyone tried building a c++ crosscompiler for m68k-elf? 14.28.10 # then browse plugins 14.28.11 # i came up with like 14.28.23 # got it 14.28.24 # iobound: c++? no. 14.28.30 # thats amazing 14.28.44 # :D 14.28.44 # ;P 14.28.52 # ashridah, i read in the wiki that libsidplay(2) support would require c++. i guess it would require a port of libstdc++ too? 14.28.57 # how do i get off that? 14.29.10 # iobound: i believe they're suggesting more that someone should port it to C :) 14.29.34 # but if it uses libstdc++, it'd probably be horribly inefficient on any platform rockbox runs on, i daresay 14.29.44 # buttons on H300 remote do not work as they should :( 14.29.45 # templating tends to go nuts on the memory usage, or on the stack, or both. 14.29.55 # Philip: correct. 14.30.05 # Acksaw: 'stop' should exit most plugins 14.30.16 # assuming it's bound properly in the code :) 14.30.25 # doesnt exit batery test? 14.30.28 # okay, i wasn't sure if gcc-with-c++ requires libstdc++, or if it's optional (as long as you don't explicitly use any c++ library thingies) 14.30.47 # i had to reset battery test..... 14.30.57 # its going up 14.31.01 # so im assuming its testing 14.31.04 # iobound: afaik, libstdc++ is the STL templating library 14.31.07 # i don't think it knows its pluged in??? 14.31.09 # you don't *have* to use it 14.31.14 # ok 14.31.14 # but i have no idea if libsidplay does 14.31.20 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@58.77.81.75) 14.31.34 # hehe 14.31.34 # Philip: battery test doesn't know how to exit iirc. 14.31.40 # sid support for the h300 would rock 14.31.40 # http://cafe.naver.com/iriverh300/496 <- picture 14.31.58 # iobound: doesn't sid kinda require building your own hardware emulator? or am i thinking of some other format 14.32.12 # It's Korean H300 user forum. 14.33.10 # :) byr 14.33.11 # no, sid is c64 tunes, libsidplay is actually a c64 emulator that only outputs PCM data 14.33.12 # e 14.33.12 Part Jungti1234 14.33.16 # (not that building said emulator is impossible, since it's been done at just a bit under full speed for rockboy) 14.35.58 # i'm going to try to build a c++ cross compiler and see if there are lots of compiler or linker errors building libsidplay 14.36.27 # ashridah: that would explain it :) 14.37.49 # anyone know default battery capacity of H300??? 14.38.16 # ~16 hours? 14.38.34 # Philip: the H1x0 has the capacity of the battery written on a label on the back of the unit, does the H3x0 not have this? 14.38.37 # more like 12 hours i believe 14.38.51 # what is the smalles timepiece i can use for alterating lines in wps 14.40.06 # nope 14.40.13 # in mAh 14.40.43 # Anyone know what the bootloader.bin is that is linked to in the text just above the checksums table in the IriverBoot page? 14.41.07 # can i have 0.5 in alternating lines in wps 14.41.09 # s 14.41.32 # how did the Devs make the rocks? (plugins) 14.41.54 # what do you mean 14.41.56 # San: they're just compiled object code, set to load at a specific address, so far as i know 14.42.08 # ah, ok 14.42.09 # can i count on main() never returning? 14.43.14 # preglow: Well, there's a while(1) loop in there, so I would guess not. 14.43.29 # linuxstb: thanks... 14.43.41 # should learn to look before i ask 14.43.49 # :) 14.44.36 # Are you using the latest CVS of rockbox for your iPod builds? 14.45.19 # yes 14.45.41 Join stu3_ [0] (n=stu3@203-217-54-37.dyn.iinet.net.au) 14.47.19 Quit Lear (Remote closed the connection) 14.47.36 # hmm.... my H300 now shuts down as soon as it turns on because i have resume turned on and it can't play the file so shuts down with codec failure.... help!!! 14.47.41 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 14.47.53 Quit linuxstb (Nick collision from services.) 14.48.03 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 14.48.17 # would it be technically possible to use the h300's usb-otg port together with a 3com 802.11b wi-fi usb dongle to transfer files between a pc and the device? I guess it would require someone implements tcp/ip, such as the uIP stack, a prism54 driver, and an ftp client or something 14.48.23 # well, delete your settings 14.48.52 # oh yeh, forgot about that thank you 14.49.13 # iobound: i guess so, but it would mean a _LOT_ of work 14.49.22 # iobound: possible yes. i doubt it'd be easy tho. 14.49.45 # * ashridah notes that it won't be long before people start expecting the usb-otg stuff to let them play two player link rockboy :) 14.49.48 # ok, i don't know how much you can get for free from the uIP project and/or the linux kernel 14.49.57 # hehe ashridah 14.50.12 # iobound: you can't just take it, it needs adapting for ages 14.50.13 # iobound : I'd still say that is a _huuuge_ project 14.50.20 # would it be safe to patch a modified iriver firmware, ie with custom images or is that just asking for trouble 14.50.37 # this uip project seems to be designed to be easily portable 14.50.48 # Philip: might be safe, you're on your own there 14.50.51 # iobound: the linux kernel is fine, since it's GPL, but the actual code inthe kernel is unlikely to be that suitable for rockbox, since it'll generally rely on things like there being a functional malloc() implementation 14.51.02 # uIP sounds more plausible 14.51.28 # just the prism54 driver would be a lot of work 14.51.47 # i think i'll leave it till someone else tries first 14.52.05 # thegeek: hell with that. usb-otg's going to be a lot of work first :) 14.52.06 # ok, i haven't read its source, but i do know that it downloads a binary firmware to the device and talks with that, maybe the layer above that isn't that complicated?! just making a wild guess here 14.52.22 # ;) 14.52.31 # still iobound 14.52.35 # I doubt that will happen 14.52.40 # hmm, for a wps, would oyu like song rating on the middle left of the screen or the center of the very top, like the middle of statusbar 14.53.39 # i would like it not to be in the wps at all ;) 14.53.45 # but i guess it's not me you're asking, heh 14.53.59 # II asked yesterday night, people wanted it 14.54.05 # I can always create other versions 14.54.19 # so this is for the ones who want it 14.54.35 # I never used it before, I dont even use the tag database atm :D 14.54.46 # shocking. 14.54.47 # i'm pretty satisifed with the original wps for the moment being 14.55.15 # could rockbox use SRS-Sound on H3xx? 14.55.16 # thegeek: woah, you live where i used to be living, by the looks of your address 14.55.21 # woo 14.55.22 # this is amazing 14.55.24 # :) 14.55.38 # hi 14.55.41 # got to go bye guys 14.55.42 # speed123 isn't that just a software thing? i guess if you can find an open source implementation of srs-sound then maybe? :) 14.55.47 Quit Philip ("Night all") 14.55.49 # what's new in BL v6? 14.55.49 # not improbable preglow 14.55.56 # thegeek: steinan, yes? which part? 14.56.01 # mhm:) 14.56.08 # i ett av småhusene 14.56.18 # rett ovenfor bunnpris;) 14.56.24 # thegeek: right, blokk her 14.56.28 # but english! 14.56.29 # hehe;) 14.56.38 # bah 14.56.51 # I doubt anyone finds it all that interesting;) 14.57.01 # battery test frezes alot 14.57.03 # you used to live here? 14.57.11 Quit Superman (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.57.25 # thegeek: yup, ab 18-34 14.57.34 # :) 14.57.49 # i'm missing the net connection already 14.57.54 # hehehe 14.58.05 # it's actually kinda eevil 14.58.11 # I keep maxing out my 20gb 14.58.16 # haha 14.58.20 # Acksaw: battery test is expected to go nuts on the hd, constantly writing to disk. there's no point in trying it. 14.58.28 # I had to setup my own system to prevent beeing blocked 14.58.29 # so they're still playing that game, are they 14.58.33 # yeah 14.58.34 # it sucks 14.58.42 # started about half a year before i moved 14.58.47 # I dont see why they can't throttle instead of block completely 14.58.48 # how do ya load iriver firmware? 14.58.53 # speed123: it's unlikely that SRS will be supported 14.58.58 # how many people have tryed flashing intl h300s ?? 14.58.58 # thank god my system works great 14.59.02 # thegeek: think they're trying to make a point 14.59.02 # ok 14.59.05 # if not I would be without net right now;) 14.59.07 # I know preglow 14.59.10 # unless you can convince the company that owns the patents on it to give royalty free GPL compatible licenses to rockbox :) 14.59.12 # but I don't have to like it;) 14.59.17 # haha, don't think anyone does 14.59.20 # mhm 14.59.20 # but anywho, back to coding 14.59.24 # :) 14.59.27 # anyone know how to boot into iriver fw? 14.59.33 # hold record 14.59.43 # Acksaw: hold record while turning it on 14.59.44 # doesnt work 14.59.48 # ahh 14.59.48 # if i can't navigate menus with my nano tonight, i've failed 14.59.54 # Acksaw: you might need to reset the player first 15.00.02 # ;) 15.00.24 # so hold play and record at same time? 15.00.27 # mhm 15.01.10 # argh got nowt to reset with 15.01.12 Quit stu3 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.01.18 # reset whilst in rockbox? 15.01.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.02.11 Quit ghode|afk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.02.20 # Acksaw: since one of the deficiencies of rockbox currently is that it doesn't power down properly, holding stop will go into low power mode or something, but you still need to reset it to get a chance at using the iriver original firmware 15.02.28 # well i got a "g++.exe" when compiling gcc-3.4.4 --target=m68k-elf --enable-languages=c,c++ but make failed a while afterwards, apparently trying to build "libstdc++3", claiming "error: No support for this host/target combination" :( 15.02.48 Join nicker [0] (n=rever@62-14-174-65.inversas.jazztel.es) 15.03.08 Join ghode|afk [0] (n=garudin@host-84-9-104-184.bulldogdsl.com) 15.03.15 # iobound: why are you compiled c++ support? 15.03.36 # preglow just seeing if it would be possible to add it without any effort, then to see if libsidplay2 would compile 15.03.38 Part Guest70021 15.03.41 # iobound: bummer. 15.03.47 Join Subterranean [0] (n=a@cpc1-asht1-3-0-cust160.manc.cable.ntl.com) 15.04.19 # when i reset 15.04.23 # well if libstdc++ is not needed i think maybe this "g++.exe" could work, but then again I think you need stdc++ for anything c++, to do destructors and RTTI and all that jazz 15.04.24 # then press on then record 15.04.26 # it turns off 15.04.55 # hold record while pressing on 15.05.10 # ahh 15.05.11 # =] 15.05.18 # it might get confused and think the hold switch is on 15.05.19 # iobound: ahh, just think how much of that you'll need to disable anyway! 15.05.23 # like rtti and exceptions 15.05.36 # since the timing is such that it thinks the only place it could turn on is on the remote, which will not have been the source. 15.06.02 # preglow why exceptions, do they need OS support? 15.06.34 # iobound: well, it MIGHT work, but then you need to catch all of them in plugin_main 15.06.36 Quit ghode|afk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.06.40 # quick question, can you/how do you take a screen capture and can you do this while using a plugin as well as a WPS screen? i tried looking in the wiki but couldnt find it 15.06.44 # iobound: god knows what happens if you don't 15.07.12 # Subterranean: there's a debug option that lets you enable the taking of screenshots whenever you plug usb in. i have no idea if this works on the H3x0 yet 15.07.14 # alright, i'm just trying to get an idea of how much effort it would be to make it work :) 15.07.37 # iobound: Does libsidplay2 rely very heavily on C++ features? 15.07.38 # iobound: sure, and let us know if you make it 15.07.41 # iobound: i rather suspect you'd have more luck porting the emulator to C :) 15.07.51 # linuxstb well, everything are classes at least 15.07.56 # ashridah, yeah me too :) 15.08.32 # I imagine that a C++ program could be written in such as way that it is either easy or very hard to port to C. I'm just wondering where libsidplay2 lies on that scale. 15.08.46 # easy, is my gues 15.08.46 # ashridah: ah thanks, i think ill stay out of the debug for now, until things are less likely to break :) 15.08.48 # s 15.09.06 # preglow yeah me too, quickly looking at files, it does seem to use stdio.h and other c-isms at least 15.09.14 # Subterranean: most of debug is just informational 15.10.21 Join mordov [0] (n=Mordov@13.80-202-208.nextgentel.com) 15.10.36 # how many devs actually have h3x0 units? 15.10.43 # i have a h340 15.11.04 # i 15.11.06 # linuxstb: i seem to recall that gcc just translates c++ to C in order to compile it anyway. could be completely misinformed there tho 15.11.07 # but i'm not a dev 15.11.19 # iobound: well, if you're willing to help, you are ;) 15.11.29 # ashridah: hell no 15.11.34 # sure but it's been a while since i did anything in c 15.11.37 # ashridah: I think that was only true in the very very early days. 15.11.46 # ashridah: cfront did that, gcc doesn't 15.11.53 # preglow: stand corrected. 15.13.09 # man, arm exceptions are strange 15.13.19 # okay. question for misticriver types 15.13.25 # instructions you need to use to return depend on which exception you're in! 15.13.30 # is there a way to get 'new posts in subscribed forums' only? 15.15.20 # febs still here? 15.16.17 Quit DJDD_ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 15.19.36 # wheres this sudoku game? 15.20.05 Quit mashalla (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.20.07 # Acksaw: it'll be under the rockbox plugins menu. a-b -> browse plugins 15.20.16 # whats it called? 15.21.09 # sudoku ^^ 15.21.15 # well now I get an "C compiler cannot create executables" when trying to cross-compile libsidplay2. because m68k-elf-ld cannot find "-lc", which is natural. Does rockbox have a mini-C-library, or what? Do I understand the source right when pointers to memcpy etc are given in the codec_api struct? 15.21.33 # it's not compiled yet 15.21.36 # sudoku requires b&w display 15.21.36 # hrm. i must have been thinking of sokoban 15.21.40 # there isnt one called sudoku 15.21.43 # ahh 15.21.50 # sokoban is a classi 15.21.54 # my bad 15.21.54 # i cant do level 3 though... 15.22.53 # iobound: you'll have to rewrite all parts of libsidplay that attempts to use standard C libraries to use the rockbox plugin interface equivalent (if it exists). have fun with that :) 15.23.03 Join mashalla [0] (i=mashalla@p5498BDD9.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.23.38 # ashridah, alright. so all the strcpy stuff is supplied in the codec_api, right? 15.23.56 # iobound: Others may disagree, but I think you should start by getting libsidplay2 working as a plugin, rather than as a codec. 15.24.09 # you'll pretty much have to 15.24.15 Quit Mordov_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.24.21 # the codec layer can't handle sidplay yet 15.24.26 # that is, perhaps it can 15.24.46 # it might be confused by you never reading any data, though, heh 15.24.49 # * San woves his woxbox 15.25.11 # I think getting it working as a plugin will be slightly easier - otherwise you don't know if problems are caused by libsidplay or the playback system. 15.25.18 # yup 15.25.31 # If you write a plugin, then you are 100% in control of things. 15.25.45 # what are they written in? 15.25.48 # C? 15.25.49 # Okay, I just wanted to see if i could produce a libsidplay.a with the cross-compiler, as a first step. Guess I've hit a wall now and it's time to actually put in some effort, so I'll postpone this until later ;) 15.26.07 # San: Yes. 15.26.14 # kk 15.26.49 # any other plugins avable, or is it just the ones that come with it 15.27.37 Quit muesli_- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.27.44 # * Acksaw np: Test-Icicles - Dancing On Pegs [02:22m/192Kbps/44KHz] 15.28.08 # is there any chance of bricking my player while its runnig rbx? 15.28.13 # There may be some on the patch tracker - see the link on the rockbox home page. 15.32.09 # Acksaw: the player itself might crash, but that's generally fixable with a reset. the bootloader tends to be reasonably well tested by necessity 15.32.23 # Acksaw: of course there is 15.32.49 # of course, rockbox itself could overdrive hardware inside the unit :) 15.32.53 # linus has expressively stated anything might happen, and it's currently inly for developers 15.33.05 # particularly since the unit is software overclockable :) 15.34.48 Join Phiklip [0] (n=5442b5bf@labb.contactor.se) 15.35.04 Quit Phiklip (Client Quit) 15.35.12 # i forgot how to get screeen dumps form the player 15.35.12 Join Philip [0] (n=5442b5bf@labb.contactor.se) 15.35.46 # can someone send me the source code of snake so I can see what it has to be coded like please? 15.36.05 # it's in cvs 15.36.08 # san do you have an international h300?? 15.36.17 # san it's in the cvs 15.36.21 # ermm, how do we get screendumps 15.36.26 # from the paly 15.36.32 # from the player 15.36.36 # because the iriver firmware finds on files :( 15.36.42 # ashridah, what's that about overclocking? got any more info? 15.36.47 # *no files 15.36.53 # in debug? 15.37.04 # it can see them in browser but not play them 15.37.17 # iobound: the unit, in order to save power, can clock the cpu down to much much lower frequencies 15.37.36 # these are set by twiddling a few i/o bits, more or less 15.37.44 # yeah i know that, i thought you meant it was possible to run at greater speeds than what the original firmware ever does 15.38.16 # ah, i missed the "software" part of "software overclockable" 15.38.20 # iobound: it might be possible, i don't know the hardware that well, there might be a cap at 120MHz 15.38.48 # depends on the cpu, h1x0 has cap at 140 15.38.50 # so, did anyone brick their h300 yet, or was that forum report bogus? 15.39.08 # i wouldn't recommend it, the heat buildup at 120MHz is fairly high, the units tend to start overheating if the disk is on at the same time as it's running at 120MHz 15.39.12 Join Kyl3 [0] (i=Kyle@cpe-24-90-232-130.nyc.res.rr.com) 15.39.28 # iobound: don't know. the two votes in the poll aren't actually bricks. 15.39.36 # my H300 is almost unusable... 15.39.52 # Philip: that's not because the bootloader's failing tho 15.39.53 # Philip, why, can't you boot back to the iriver firmware? 15.39.56 # i have a US one 15.39.57 # both boot but none play music :? 15.40.12 # Phillip, hold down play when booting 15.40.17 # the iriver displays no files 15.40.36 # i can boot iriver but it can't find any files??? 15.40.40 # can someone link me to the CVS please? 15.40.42 # Philip: there's a setting that lets it decide whether to show 'supported' 'music' 'all' or something like that 15.40.58 # san http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UsingCVS 15.41.02 # ty 15.41.27 # not in rockbox, that shows ok but doesn't play the music, the iriver firmware doesn't find any files 15.41.37 # Philip: that is strange. 15.41.43 # i know 15.41.52 # philip can you see the files from a PC if you use the iriver firmware for USB? 15.42.03 # i'm deleting some of the files off the player to see if that helps 15.42.09 # Philip: intl or US H300 ? 15.42.13 # yes USB works 15.42.16 # intl 15.42.18 # Philip: chkdsk it or something too, perhaps? 15.42.33 # maybe rbx wrote something to the fat32 structuers that the iriver firmware fat driver can't parse 15.42.34 # they even show up in the iriver browser but not in music playmode 15.42.43 # ok THAT is weird 15.43.04 # have you tried to flash back to original iriver firmware ? 15.43.12 # philip in the music browser, can't you see any directories either? 15.43.35 # no 15.43.50 # and you're browsing the root directory, not ".rockbox" or anything silly like that? :) 15.43.52 # it used to have a 1 Mb partition 15.44.03 # and a 37Gb partition 15.44.13 # the 1Mb partition has gone??? 15.44.22 # odd 15.44.23 # anyway of taking a screendump of the player? 15.44.27 # it did? i don't think mine had more than 1 partition 15.44.34 # oh 15.44.48 # but i can't remember for sure, don't have the player with me right now 15.44.55 # San: not sure if it works on the H3x0, but the info->debug->screendump option lets it make .bmp files of the screen whenever you plug in the usb cable. 15.45.02 Join Azraak [0] (n=jamie@c210-49-128-201.fitzg2.qld.optusnet.com.au) 15.45.08 # http://www.anthrodium.com/rb/dump_0001.bmp 15.45.13 # http://www.anthrodium.com/rb/dump_0002.bmp 15.45.16 # San: I tried the debug menu method and it didnt work for me on H320 15.45.17 # which is better? 15.45.30 # TY Subterranean 15.45.35 # San: guess that answers your question. no, there isn't :) 15.45.37 # yet 15.45.41 # kk 15.45.58 # i might have just been useless and not used it properly, feel free to try it anyway 15.46.03 # i was playing snake and that other game all night 15.46.08 Quit nicker ("Abandonando") 15.46.20 # Hi all. 15.46.43 # Don't actually have a Rockbox capable player yet, but thinking of getting an H340 and wondering if I can ask some stupid questions about the voice UI (blind user) 15.46.48 # If I play a song it crashes. 15.47.14 Join rever [0] (n=rever@62-14-174-65.inversas.jazztel.es) 15.47.44 # @atraak i could help u. ask 15.49.08 # Does voice UI speak if music is paused? Obviously, it can't speak during playback, but was wondering how one would browse, access quick menu, bookmarking, etc. without losing position in file. Does pressing stop and then play again resume from last stopped position? I assume it does from reading the FAQs but not sure if auto resume occurs after pressing stop 15.49.39 # and bookmarking can probably be worked around by learning the key sequences 15.50.57 # you can press play and pause the song ? 15.51.08 # sorry i dont know about voice UI. The normal firmware cant "talk" or recognise Controls by voice° (if you mean that) 15.51.11 # so do you know how many people have tryed flashing intl h300s ?? 15.51.25 # so far i guess to many 15.51.45 # NicoFR: i flashed my intl h320 and its working fine so far 15.51.52 # the normal firmware cant talk? 15.52.01 # I'm considering doing it 15.52.02 # i tohught it can fi you record the voice files 15.52.09 # has anyone else got the same problem as me, not being able to play music using the default iriver firmware??? 15.52.31 # no 15.52.51 # mmm, no i meant rockbox 15.53.10 Join Loenie [0] (n=d50a8f2e@labb.contactor.se) 15.53.19 # i think there is a plugin, but rockbox is not even beta for the H3xx 15.53.37 # but it could i guess but not yet 15.53.44 Quit Kyl3 () 15.53.54 # mmm sorry, my bad. I meant I was considering buying an h300 but I am aware it's not there yet for the 300 15.53.57 # preglow: Did you notice any differences between the Nano button driver and the 4G one in ipodlinux? I'm wondering if I should remove the IPOD_NANO_PAD definition. 15.54.10 # i have to go ... 15.54.10 # I was more meaning on current units like the h1xx and Archos units 15.54.37 # well its a awsome player with rockbox even more 15.54.38 # cu 15.54.44 Part speed123 15.55.08 # linuxstb: haven't looked much at it 15.55.39 # I noticed that you have challenged yourself to get menu browsing working today :) 15.56.00 # haha, yes 15.56.06 # i'm starting to wonder if it's not a little bit amitious 15.56.48 # Maybe, but it's good to aim high. 15.56.59 # sure 15.57.14 # Your Rockbox seems to be better than mine though - it's not showing the file browser, and the "Ver: " text in the splash is corrupt. 15.57.23 Part Loenie 15.57.26 # yes, i was wondering about that 15.57.32 # you think that's hardware differences playing in? 15.58.11 # I'm going to investigate now. I added a lcd_puts in init(), and that displays perfectly. Maybe it's the ATA driver. 15.59.05 # Does Rockbox completely clear the display for you? Your first screenshot still has some of the logo visible. 15.59.18 # you know the boot screen, the picture, where is that located? 15.59.20 # no, it doesn't 15.59.24 # i've got the residual logo on the left 15.59.30 # and i've also got some garbage characters on the bottom 15.59.39 # legible characters, but they shouldn't be there, heh 15.59.40 # just flashed my intl h320 15.59.44 # it works 15.59.45 # I get those same garbage characters. 16.00.05 # $, @ and some letters with accents. 16.00.26 # cant I use an alternating line in a conditional 16.00.35 Join muesli_- [0] (i=muesli_t@Bc14f.b.pppool.de) 16.01.42 # San: apps/recorder/logo-h300.c - it's created using tools/bmp2rb 16.01.52 # man, it's cold around here 16.02.37 # indeed 16.02.43 # im in me house with heating on and im cold/. 16.03.04 # thanks linuxstb 16.03.14 # think i'll get a cuppa 16.04.55 # Are there any ways to "test" arm assembly code except on target? 16.05.13 # is anyone working on making the audio work ATM? 16.05.15 # there are sims around, i guess 16.05.23 # the ifp guy has got a simulator 16.10.37 # id apprecieate if you guys could com ment on my wps 16.11.24 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 16.11.28 # http://www.anthrodium.com/rb/dump_0001.bmp 16.11.32 # http://www.anthrodium.com/rb/dump_0002.bmp 16.12.24 # do 4 color bmps work on the H300? 16.13.09 # San: Which part of Rockbox? Different depths are used for different 16.13.17 # ... parts 16.14.29 # like and image 16.14.34 # *like, an image 16.14.40 # just for picture viewing 16.15.23 # I am going to try one now anyway 16.15.25 Join ghode|afk [0] (n=garudin@host-84-9-104-184.bulldogdsl.com) 16.15.52 # pink 16.15.55 # is that on h300? 16.15.58 # San: If you're talking about logo-h300.c, then that is 16-bit colour. 16.16.15 # I think most of the other bitmaps used internally in Rockbox are mono, but I'm not 100% sure. 16.16.48 # no, I am talking about just a normal picture that you might wana n=view on the HD of it 16.17.05 # You mean using the jpeg viewer? 16.17.17 # yes 16.17.32 Join Sando [0] (i=lolsteam@144.135.255.155) 16.18.00 # I don't think that will work at all on the H300 - it uses the greyscale library for display. IIRC, it doesn't decode the colour information from the JPEG file. 16.18.26 # jpeg plug will require work, yes 16.18.43 # it doesn't decode chroma at all, now 16.18.50 # acksaw? are you asking me 16.18.54 # its h120 16.18.54 # yeh 16.18.56 # ahh 16.18.58 # its nice 16.19.18 # no reason why it should not work on h320 once it properly supports wps 16.19.33 # I'll make color versions, I'm going to buy an h340 too 16.20.06 # Mmm. I just got a message from my ipod saying "Save Failed. No partition?" I guess it failed to write the settings when shutting down. 16.20.32 # does anyone know of a wps that has an animated battery when charging 16.21.52 # what's the reason sound support is missing in h300? missing "soundcard" driver, or just that the audio decoder chip is wired differently, etc? 16.24.26 # there's a link on the wiki to a philips webpage for the "uda1380", i'm guessing this is the "sound card"? I don't understand this part: ..and 8 to 100 kHz for the DAC part. The ADC does not support DVD audio (96 kHz audio) .. DVD playback is supported. Is 96khz playback possible or not? 16.25.39 # iobound: The DAC can only be used at 44.1KHz - I've been told its a limitation of the Coldfire CPU. 16.26.38 # okay, um.. what does the CPU have to do with anything? (I'm not a hardware geek) 16.27.22 Quit muesli_- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.27.40 # oh, the stuff i just pasted, it's the ADCwhich is limitd to 55khz, the DAC has the full 8-100khz range apparently? 16.28.17 # i found something... 16.28.22 # when charging a h300 16.28.24 # iobound: I don't understand it either. But this information comes from LinusN. 16.28.29 # ok 16.28.31 # pressing play goes to iriver fw not to rockbox 16.28.46 Quit ghode|afk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.29.56 # what replaygain? 16.30.35 # linuxstb: well, that doesn't exactly bode well 16.30.40 # linuxstb: i just got 'shutting down', then hanged 16.30.48 # but that's understandable 16.32.15 # Acksaw, isn't that something about a volume boost factor being encoded in the audio file, so you'll get equivalent volume output on everything you listen to (that has this information), kind of like a normalization? 16.34.19 # preglow: I think it's because my hard disk had powered down. I haven't looked that part of the ATA driver yet. 16.34.49 # linuxstb: right, and the nano probably doesn't have that problem 16.35.51 # The file tree is displaying (without any logo in the background) if I add an lcd_update to the end of the update_dir() function in tree.c 16.36.11 # If I don't add that lcd_update, I don't see anything - the logo remains. 16.36.18 # im stuck on level 3 sokoban 16.36.18 # hmm 16.36.27 # i wonder what mode the arm is in after apple bootloader 16.36.28 Quit rever ("Abandonando") 16.37.08 # Maybe lcd_update_rect doesn't work properly - I'm guessing that's what the file browser uses. 16.37.27 # Hi all, does anyone here have any experience of using debian's toolchain package and tpkg-* tools to create the m68k crosscompiler? 16.37.31 # preglow: I'm sure the IPL people will know. 16.38.44 Join ghode|afk [0] (i=testing@host-84-9-104-184.bulldogdsl.com) 16.38.59 # anyone can get past level 3 sokoban 16.39.03 # tim66: IMHO, It's not worth the effort. Build it yourself and install it in in your home directory, out of the way of any Debian packages. 16.41.52 # yep. The crosscompiler is very easy to install manually 16.42.02 # just two wgets, configures and makes 16.47.11 Quit Azraak ("leaving") 16.49.01 Quit Drumr|away ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 16.49.51 Quit Acksaw () 16.50.17 Join bbad [0] (n=bbad@81.198.48.110) 16.52.14 # seems like rockbox is currently running in supervisor mode right now :P 16.53.04 Quit wubbla ("reboot...") 16.53.57 # linuxstb: thanks for the tip. I was hoping that just running a couple of tpkg commands would simplify the process :-) but I've been fiddling with it for *far* too long now! sounds like handmade is the answer 16.54.20 # linuxstb: hope I don't have the same trouble getting it to use gcc 3.4 instead of 4 ;-) 16.55.26 Quit NicoFR () 16.56.05 Join muesli_- [0] (i=muesli_t@Bbc97.b.pppool.de) 16.56.46 Join Drumrboy247 [0] (n=44c20ff1@labb.contactor.se) 16.56.52 # does somebody know when iriver released v1.65 for h100? 16.59.54 # it looks like the ifp guy also just lets it remain in supervisor moide 16.59.55 # mode 17.00.47 Join wubbla [0] (n=wubbla@adsl-141.231.166.194.arpa.as1901.net) 17.00.51 # tim66: Lots of people come here and ask about using pre-build cross-compilers. All of them end up compiling from source :) 17.01.08 Join muesli- [0] (i=muesli_t@Bc129.b.pppool.de) 17.01.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.02.18 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.03.19 Quit muesli_- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.03.19 Quit Febs ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 17.03.33 Join akaidiot [0] (n=nope@c-f744e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 17.06.35 # hmm, set it up in user mode, works just dandy 17.06.42 # hoi hoi, holaaaa, does anyone know if I can put alternating lines inside a conditional to make an animated icon 17.07.09 # acksaw you talking about the plugin sokoban? 17.09.28 # linuxstb: what characters do you get on the bottom? i get $, â, @ and some other nice stuff 17.11.27 # preglow: Yes, I get exactly the same. 17.13.47 # ok sokoban lvl 4 now 17.14.02 # struggeking with the wps's;) iis it posible to nake a line scroll but only at parts of the sreecn? (not whole) 17.14.33 # time for dinner 17.15.08 # not yer mordov 17.15.13 # I've been asking that for ages 17.15.20 # wish i knew c ++ 17.15.25 # ;) 17.15.31 Join Cassandra [0] (i=Cassandr@elmyra.coraline.org) 17.15.54 # can I make the beps front pixel? 17.16.12 # so bmp's wount get disturbed from the sdroll? 17.16.17 Quit iobound ("Leaving") 17.16.28 # -beps +bmp's 17.16.48 Quit ender` (Connection timed out) 17.17.22 # som whay to draw "white" 17.18.42 Join Midgey34 [0] (n=Midgey34@c-67-172-68-52.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 17.21.20 # no 17.21.36 # i mean i wasnt able to do so at least 17.23.21 # :) 17.24.09 # does someone know if it's now possible to play mp3 sound in a plugin ? 17.25.19 # Wett: Not at the moment. What are you wanting to do? 17.26.34 # still thinking of porting video plugin to ihp1x0 :) I already tried to, but i had problems i could'nt manage to solve 17.26.58 # it was so buggy, I certainly not had the correct approach 17.27.27 # can someone tell acksaw he is really the sokoban idiot for gettin stuck at lvl 3 17.29.56 # Hmmm. I think the display code is desperately in need of some "image / wps buffer full" messages. 17.30.27 # Wett: I think the correct approach for video would be to use the existing playback code. You would need a video codec which did both audio and video decoding and kept the two in sync. 17.31.41 # Most of the infrastructure is there now, but you would obviously have to stop the WPS screen displaying anything. 17.32.12 # yeah that's what I did, but my problems were to play the decoded sound, in fact it just crashes if the buffer is filling, with some strange and always different messages 17.32.37 # oh oh oh i misunderstood 17.33.14 # you suggest me not to play it with a plugin 17.34.40 # interesting, I did not think about that. Have to explore that way 17.35.07 Quit Philip ("CGI:IRC") 17.35.09 Quit jelle-k (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.35.46 # Does video playback use the greyscale library? 17.36.33 # nope, it flips images 50 or 60 times a sec. 17.37.19 # which makes "pause" impossible ^^ 17.39.26 # why 50-60,its useless 17.39.29 # 25 17.39.40 # 20 even would be far more than enough 17.39.48 # it's a little different here 17.39.51 # pinkutank: To give the illusion of more shades of grey than the LCD can actually display. 17.40.01 # IIUC 17.40.01 # oh oh forgot grayscale 17.40.02 # sorry 17.40.29 # it will be different in h320 tho 17.40.44 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 17.41.09 # yes of course, but i don't have one ;) 17.41.57 # amiconn: I've uploaded a scan of my ipod if you still want it: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/ipodcolor-scan.png 17.42.29 # whoa png 17.42.49 # wherefore? 17.43.29 # for sim? 17.43.44 # Yes. 17.44.04 # how big is that file? 17.44.05 Join Philip_0729 [0] (n=Philip_0@user-5567.lns1-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk) 17.44.28 # I think an edited photo would work better? 17.44.38 # 5mb 17.44.49 # Best to be too big and scale down than the other way around. 17.45.12 # yepp...my isdn line gets blasted 17.45.13 # ipods are not bo rn to be scanned 17.45.41 # imho the display is enough 17.46.14 # youd be working away from the original kinda ui thos 17.46.23 # do you want me to shorten the ipd? 17.46.33 # like have display, and the wheel right udner it 17.46.49 # smaller than orig? 17.47.02 # I'll leave that up to amiconn - assuming he still wants to get the ipod sim working. 17.47.27 # ender is a turkish name 17.47.48 # but it could be just end-er 17.47.49 # :D 17.47.51 # ender is a character from an american book 17.47.59 # speaking of sim, what is currently possible to do with ? play sound ? Or at least simulate it plays sound ? 17.48.32 # mine doesnt even have a owrking progress bar because songs dont play 17.49.13 # does any of you guys kjnow a household item thatd work as ppolish? 17.49.33 # Polish. 17.49.51 # .. 17.50.01 # i dont have polish here 17.50.16 # and most polish stuff kills 17.50.20 # translucent stuff 17.50.25 # sucha s my ihp120 screen 17.50.33 # toothbrush normally works 17.50.37 # hahah 17.50.41 # but colgate has fine granules i guess 17.50.45 # polish isn't ok but toothbrush doesn't? 17.50.48 # ii meant toothpaste 17.50.50 # s/doesn't/is/ 17.51.02 # toothpaste doesn't polish, it fills cracks 17.51.03 # not brush 17.51.06 Join davidd [0] (i=davidd@67-50-85-206.br1.tbr.ga.frontiernet.net) 17.51.08 # got to restart, brb 17.51.13 # not fill 17.51.13 Quit Wett () 17.51.21 # it works like 17.51.21 # i would have thought it actually made scratches as well 17.51.24 # fine sanding material 17.51.36 # noo its too fine to be making scratches 17.51.49 # actually ih ave some car polish 17.51.53 # I wonder :) 17.52.42 # lets see 17.59.10 Join RotAtoR [0] (n=18e7f919@labb.contactor.se) 17.59.39 Join Wett [0] (n=wett@l04m-212-194-56-90.d4.club-internet.fr) 18.03.05 # i think it works 18.03.12 # but need a secnd step for swirls 18.03.18 Quit Midgey34 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.06.59 # * Cassandra notices the topic. I like. 18.08.12 Join sanitarium [0] (n=sanitari@213-202-136-109.bas502.dsl.esat.net) 18.10.31 Quit muesli- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.11.09 # reading ipl source code is such a bliss, it's almost exclusively pure numerical values 18.11.27 # i must remember to stop rushing with all of the excitment 18.11.40 # preglow: Yep. I think we need to try and give names to some of those numbers. 18.11.45 # i think my problem was some corrupted files 18.11.58 # did you brick your player? 18.12.04 # from not safly disconecting :) 18.13.04 # linuxstb: might as well eliminate all use of inl and outl while we're at it 18.13.08 # and had to format the drive :( but seems to be working fine now 18.13.35 # preglow: Agreed. 18.14.11 # san: came close 18.14.29 # :0 18.15.03 Join webguest56 [0] (n=507e7b1e@labb.contactor.se) 18.15.19 # the problem luckily was with files not the flash data 18.15.29 # i count myself as very lucky 18.16.38 # the only thing i have permenantly lost and will have to make again is the autorun script i had to display a small H300 icon when i plug it into my pc 18.17.32 # Just installed rockbox / v1.28EU on my H340, seems to work, allthough I had to reset once, can safely boot back into original iriver firmware. 18.17.51 Quit DMJC (Connection timed out) 18.18.57 # cant wait for the audio to be supported 18.18.57 # :D 18.19.51 # me neither 18.20.22 # then i can start working on full colour wps's 18.22.38 # yeah 18.22.39 # :D 18.23.13 Quit webguest56 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 18.25.41 # do you know if anyone has tried patching an already modified version of the iriver firmware??? 18.26.08 Quit RotAtoR ("CGI:IRC 0.5.4 (2004/01/29)") 18.26.17 Quit sanitarium ("Konversation terminated!") 18.29.36 # llool i polished my h120 with car polish paste 18.29.57 # correctiopn 18.30.05 # the screen of my h120 18.30.38 # Philip_0729: what do you mean with modified version? 18.31.16 Join San [0] (n=Test@213-202-136-109.bas502.dsl.esat.net) 18.31.21 # skinned 18.31.28 # with H3mod 18.31.44 # that should work. At least for H1xx-firmware it's no problem 18.31.45 # roockbox? 18.32.09 # cool but i'll let someone else try it first ;) 18.32.16 # worst case would be that it will render the iriver fw unbootable but bootloader should always function 18.32.50 # but bootloader USB mode is not implemented yet i think?? 18.33.01 # so i'll still be stuck 18.33.38 # ah, better not to try then 18.33.48 # yeh 18.33.50 # :) 18.35.11 # i'm still coping all my files back to my iriver :) 18.35.21 # :P 18.38.54 # oh, yeah, does rockboy work on the H300? 18.39.26 # i havn't tried that yet, what filetype does it use?? 18.39.38 # rockboy? 18.39.46 # a gameboy rom I think 18.40.41 # what is the extention?? .rom?? 18.40.51 # .gb 18.40.53 # gb or gba i think it uses 18.41.00 # or gbc 18.41.06 # not gba 18.42.24 # where do you get them 18.42.32 Join tucoz [0] (n=480ec00d@labb.contactor.se) 18.42.36 # and do plugins for the H100 work on the H300? 18.43.18 Quit tucoz (Client Quit) 18.44.36 # gb and gbc for rockboy 18.45.23 Join OPP [0] (i=OPP@c-24-12-189-55.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 18.45.25 # hello 18.45.32 # hey 18.45.35 # i hear you got rockbox for h300 18.45.43 # is there a way i can get that? 18.45.48 # Can i put the files anywhere on the drive or is there a specific location?? 18.46.14 # yep we all love LinusN 18.46.32 # where do I download rockboy? 18.46.49 # it's a plugin, don't need to download it 18.46.51 # its on there already 18.46.56 # ah 18.46.57 # its already on 18.47.04 # you need to maker the palyer show all files 18.47.11 # k 18.47.11 # and start a gb game as if you were loading a song 18.47.12 # i have that 18.47.17 # sooo, where do I get the roms? 18.47.29 # emule, bearshare, any warez 18.47.35 # aaahh 18.47.36 # oh 18.47.38 # :p 18.47.47 # where can i get the h3xx bootloader 18.48.21 # you guys have so much patience, if it was me I would have pulled a freaker on me already for asking so many questions 18.48.22 # :P 18.48.30 # OPP, i forget, sorry 18.48.32 Quit Coldtoast (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.49.07 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot 18.49.12 # ^^ OPP 18.49.13 # yeah 18.49.26 # you need the FWpatcher.exe and iriver 1.28 Firmware 18.50.10 # and bootloader-h300v1? 18.50.44 # that is fwpatcher 18.51.00 # OPP: No, fwpatcher includes the bootloader.bin files. 18.51.06 # o 18.51.06 # ok 18.51.14 # anything new for the h1xx in v6? 18.51.19 # double click fw patcher and browse to the H300.hex 18.51.27 # The .bin files are only if you want to patch your firmware manually. 18.51.39 # linuxstb: sry should have been more specific 18.51.42 # can someone please send me 1 game to try out cause I am downloading a folder 1.50GB full of them ATM and it will take a while 18.51.44 # :| 18.51.55 # 1.5GB!!!! 18.51.58 # yes 18.51.58 # lol 18.52.01 # torrent 18.52.11 # they are like 1 MB ech 18.52.14 # hehe 18.52.15 # *each 18.52.28 # thats 1500 roms :o 18.52.35 # San: i just tried one rom i had lying around and it didnt work 18.52.37 # just search game boy roms on torrentspy 18.52.49 # oh, so they dont work ? 18.52.54 # make sure you didnt get game boy advance 18.52.55 # i am downloading some random ones 18.52.56 # theres free public domain ones on zophar.net 18.52.56 # or color 18.53.00 # it just skipped it and started playing the music file after it 18.53.13 # oh 18.53.14 # might be a bad rom tho, could try another 18.53.23 # philip, where are you downloading them? 18.53.29 # Subterranean: What was the filename of your rom? 18.54.06 # it was a .gbc, but it had ( and [ characters in it, are certain characters bad? 18.54.44 # No, I don't think so. I was just checking it had either ".gb" or ".gbc" as the extension. 18.54.45 # i would make it a simple as possible... lika make it gbcrom.gbc 18.54.51 # as to not make a file name a problem 18.55.16 # can the games be in color? 18.55.19 # no? 18.55.32 # its started what are the controls??? 18.55.37 # answered your own question 18.55.46 Join Ancelot [0] (n=18e8342a@labb.contactor.se) 18.55.48 # lol 18.55.51 # philip, they work? 18.55.53 # Badger? 18.55.59 # I think the person who wrote rockboy stripped out the colour handling code when optimising it for the H1x0. So that needs to be restored. 18.56.07 # well they run but no movement???????? 18.56.11 # ah, ok, no problems then 18.56.24 # will you send that rom to me please on MSN 18.56.34 # will we ever get DOOM? 18.56.35 # k 18.56.43 # doom, sure 18.56.43 # yes, we will be doomed 18.56.45 # dont worry 18.56.50 # ooooh, a doom rom 18.56.53 # theres an ipod linux port that we can nick :) 18.56.54 # * San searches 18.56.54 # god i want DOOM so much i have been playing it since i was 4 18.56.56 # i cant wait for that day! 18.57.11 # Philip_0729, you must be young! 18.57.17 # no 18.57.19 # he has a time machine 18.57.23 # ooh 18.57.24 # gimmie 18.57.30 # d'oh 18.57.40 # you are out of date pal 18.57.51 # :9 18.57.51 # www.timetravel.com 18.58.00 # ive been playin doom since i was five/six 18.58.06 # Sponsored Links! 18.58.10 # w00t w00t 18.58.12 # wow! so the h300 bootloader really seems to work... how many people in this channel are already running rockbox on their H300? 18.58.13 # phillip, get on MSN right NOW! 18.58.13 # :P 18.58.14 # :/ 18.58.29 # wubbla 18.58.32 Join muesli_- [0] (i=muesli_t@A943b.a.pppool.de) 18.58.38 # i am not :( im not willing to loose reliable MP3 playback and video yet 18.58.42 # listen, there's no point in doing it 18.58.48 # just tried tetris and it half worked, think its crashed at the loading screen tho 18.58.55 # as in the gameboy rom of tetris 18.58.56 # if i get an iPod, i will go for it though 18.58.58 # does the firmware play music? 18.59.04 # no 18.59.11 # so why patching it? 18.59.20 # for rockboy! 18.59.21 # XD 18.59.23 # you have an mp3 player for linus' sake! 18.59.28 # (h140 user) 18.59.44 # bleh, you outta league 18.59.45 # Ancelot: that's a good point :) 18.59.58 # well you see, that's the whole point 19.00.08 # brb, ima switch to irc 19.00.12 Quit Ancelot (Client Quit) 19.00.33 # can mirc connect to more than one server? 19.00.38 # yes 19.00.51 # type /server -m *server address* 19.00.55 # i think i'v been through this already lol 19.01.01 # ok, awesome 19.01.11 # hmm, gameboy tetris runs, its a bit slow though 19.01.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.02.00 # mario runs way tooooo sloooowly 19.02.02 Join Ancelot [0] (i=Ancelot@OL42-52.fibertel.com.ar) 19.02.09 # im back 19.02.22 # haha, i have marion on my TI-89 titanium, and it works amazingly well 19.02.30 # mario on * 19.02.48 # which mario tho 19.02.50 # i don't think mario could ever fit a DAP 19.02.52 # ti89 is a great machine :p 19.02.52 # its not the gameboy emulator 19.02.57 # it is a different mario 19.02.59 # rockbox for ti89? :p 19.03.05 # i run it on my ti83+ 19.03.12 # so is not mario 19.03.15 # Max: thank you... do you have one? 19.03.15 # Ancelot: but LinusN would be quite lucky when he realizes that he's got that much beta-testers :-) 19.03.21 # is like... Piero? 19.03.27 # Ancelot: don't you think so? ;-) 19.03.35 # cause i cant figure out how to do simple math stuff, and i need to know how to do graphs 19.03.40 # Drumrboy247: i have a ti89 yes 19.04.00 # wubbla mmm not quite, imagine if he released a version taht'd brick all the DAPS 19.04.08 Nick Maxime is now known as Maxime` (n=flemmard@fbx.flemmard.net) 19.04.41 # Ancelot: did he? 19.04.44 Join Acksaw [0] (i=Acksaw@spc1-stok5-4-0-cust5.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) 19.04.48 # its a good thing i'm sitting next to a draw full of paperclips 19.04.49 # wubbla he migh 19.04.52 # might 19.04.55 # Drumrboy247: you want to know sth about it? 19.05.09 # wubbla, remember it's alpha version 19.05.24 # im using a blunt wire holder pin to reset mine =] 19.05.35 # Ancelot: you were testing it too? 19.05.44 # i am using nail sicsors 19.06.01 # ummm Maxime, yes i would like to know just how to stupid simpe stuff with it 19.06.08 # like? 19.06.16 # division? 19.06.26 # it only spits out the equation 19.06.27 # wubbla not a chance, i paid 550 freakin dollars 19.06.37 # ah 19.06.43 # Ancelot: 550$?!?! 19.06.46 # i wont waste them by gettin impatient and all excited 19.06.47 # if you want the "approx" value, type "diamond" and enter 19.06.49 # Ancelot: for a H320? 19.06.59 # wubbla yes, teamdigital (singapore) h340 19.07.02 # H340 i assume 19.07.14 # and i got my remote from mistic audio 19.07.14 # ok, i will try that 19.07.22 # so i paid 60 extra 19.07.27 # that makes like 610 19.07.43 # Ancelot: hmm.... 550$ = ?eur 19.08.00 # so NO, i wont try it out unless it has an insure policy from linus that he will bring me aussie cheese fries 19.08.06 # 550 american, euro i dunno 19.08.09 # does the h300 charge under rockbox yet?? 19.08.42 # mine seemed to 19.09.04 # in that when i plugged the charger in, the battery icon showed it was charging 19.09.09 # Ancelot: you're talking about AUD, right? 19.10.46 # MARIO LAND WORKS 19.10.48 # I AM PLAYing it 19.10.54 # *sorry bout the caps* 19.10.59 # :P 19.11.07 # how slowly :D 19.11.09 # wubbla AUD? 19.11.12 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@231.82-134-118.bkkb.no) 19.11.14 # Drumrboy247: u tried? 19.11.22 # and will holding B be a problem ;) 19.11.22 # i am playing pokemon red....... 19.11.22 # yeah, that's something i'd like to know, how fast can u play 19.11.33 # Ancelot: australian dollars 19.11.44 # tetris was sudenly easy;) 19.11.46 # oh no my dear wubbla 19.11.51 # American dollars 19.11.55 # Ancelot: USD?! 19.11.59 # the main problem is the buttons i think the start sequence of Pokemon red seemed to run ok 19.12.01 # yep yep 19.12.07 # lotsa washingtons 19.12.17 # Bagder: If you are around, TexNoel in the wiki is a spammer 19.12.19 # Ancelot: wow! now that would be ~470EUR! 19.12.32 # Max: yes it worked... thank you! 19.12.37 # it is pretty slow though 19.12.39 # a big number 19.12.43 # got to go and eat, i'll be back 19.12.44 # San how slow? 19.12.45 # Ancelot: indeed :) 19.12.48 # not too bad 19.13.06 # San blah, i will feel like i'm on dope the whole time 19.13.24 # lol 19.13.26 Quit davidd () 19.14.32 Join ender1 [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 19.14.35 Join Noel_sad_song [0] (n=c87ec44a@labb.contactor.se) 19.14.49 Quit ender` (Nick collision from services.) 19.14.54 Nick ender1 is now known as ender` (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 19.15.02 # can anyone help me get some mario goodness on my h320 19.15.10 Join San||Studying [0] (n=Test@213-202-136-109.bas502.dsl.esat.net) 19.15.10 Quit San||Studying (Client Quit) 19.15.26 # well, i guess you cant find a ROM fo rit? 19.16.33 # watch for Noel_sad_song, he's a spammer 19.16.41 # * HCl yawns 19.17.42 Join Sanitarium [0] (n=Test@213-202-136-109.bas502.dsl.esat.net) 19.17.42 Quit Drumrboy247 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 19.18.48 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m79.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 19.18.52 Join drumrboy320 [0] (n=Drumrboy@ool-44c20ff1.dyn.optonline.net) 19.20.20 # http://www.diabolikal.org/hosted/Mario%20Land.gb 19.20.27 # that is the game I was playing 19.20.31 # that works 19.20.35 Quit Sanitarium (Client Quit) 19.21.32 # LinusN: (if you read the logs) Imho it's not a good idea to apply the same scroll settings to main & remote. The LCDs have very different delays, and with different fonts different scroll settings are imho mandatory 19.21.56 # I intended to add that, after finishing the backlight settings 19.22.58 # oh no.. 19.23.07 # im getting stuck on the rockbox logo thing 19.23.16 # <_FireFly_> amiconn: i have already a patch for additional settings 19.23.20 # <_FireFly_> for the remote 19.24.01 # im off for some afternoob pool diving 19.24.03 # laters 19.24.05 Quit Ancelot () 19.24.05 Quit Noel_sad_song ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 19.24.06 # <_FireFly_> amiconn: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1362248&group_id=44306&atid=439120 19.24.13 # i think its broken 19.24.23 # it wont load up 19.24.28 # anyone ? 19.24.36 # Acksaw: That logo is displayed by Rockbox itself, not the bootloader. So it should be easily fixed by re-installing. 19.24.43 Join Noel_sad_song [0] (n=c87ec44a@labb.contactor.se) 19.24.58 # i see 19.25.51 # so just 19.25.57 # open fwpatcher and redo the firmware? 19.26.19 # do gameboy advanced roms work? 19.26.22 # <_FireFly_> Acksaw: only the firmware 19.26.30 # ? 19.26.34 # <_FireFly_> Acksaw: not the bootloader 19.26.38 # (.gba) 19.26.39 # i dont understand 19.26.46 # Acksaw, I think you can just try to unzip the rockbox.zip to the player 19.26.50 # not reflash it 19.26.59 # the files are already there 19.27.18 # Yes, but the bootloader hasn't changed since you flashed it 19.27.33 # so delete the rockbox files 19.27.37 # leave the hex 19.27.45 # and unzip the rockbox.zip again? 19.27.52 # But maybe the files have. Remember, rockbox for the h3x0 series is in a early state 19.27.52 # <_FireFly_> yepp 19.28.19 # is linus here? 19.29.20 # i can load iriver firmware still 19.29.43 # the bootloader seems fine 19.29.54 # after it says all that stuff i just gets stuck 19.30.00 # i can shut down 19.30.04 # so then replace the rockbox files 19.30.08 # ;) 19.30.17 # <_FireFly_> Acksaw: the rockbox-logo isn't displayed from the bootloader 19.30.19 # the ones that were inside the zip? 19.30.37 # <_FireFly_> it's displayed from the firmware 19.30.43 # ? 19.30.50 # delete the .rockbox folder, and also the rockbox.iriver file 19.30.54 # ok 19.31.13 # unzip the rockbox.zip (which contains the .rockbox-folder, and the rockbox.iriver file) 19.31.14 # and reextract? 19.31.19 # yes 19.31.22 # ok 19.31.29 # have you a link? 19.32.03 # Rockbox _IS_ the rockbox.iriver file. The bootloader is just loading that file instead of the original firmware. Get it? 19.32.10 # yes 19.32.12 # i just need the files 19.32.16 # i can't find them 19.32.38 # http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-h300/rockbox.zip 19.32.42 # thanks 19.34.32 # ok 19.34.33 # lets try agian 19.34.49 # hopefully, it works. :) 19.35.07 # hoepfully 19.35.17 # error accessing playlist file or something 19.35.19 # but it worked 19.35.41 # error accessing playlist control file 19.36.01 # hmm, I do not know why you get that. Try and reset you settings 19.36.17 # how? 19.36.43 # You have probably some settings stored in the settings sector on the harddisk that controls that kind of stuff 19.37.08 # any ideas what they would be callled? 19.37.37 # has anyone got more roms? 19.38.03 # try searching google, you can usually find some 19.38.13 # Acksaw: Go to the main menu, then Manage Settings, then Reset Settings 19.38.19 # cheers 19.38.22 # And stop trying to play back audio files :) 19.38.36 # Acksaw, a-b->manage settings->reset 19.38.41 # (or something like that) 19.38.42 # done 19.38.53 # ok 19.38.56 # ill try again 19.38.59 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-157-39-233.bna.bellsouth.net) 19.39.08 # no error =] 19.39.09 # worked 19.39.21 # ok im on a rom 19.39.23 # but no controls work 19.39.48 # i'm downloading some .gba roms to chech if they work 19.39.55 # *check 19.39.57 # apart from a-b which takes me to menu but i cant do anything on that 19.40.05 # phillip, i can't control anything on mine 19.40.38 # Acksaw: Have you read the instructions? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginRockboy 19.40.40 # neither can San 19.40.48 # never saw that 19.40.49 # ill read now 19.40.51 # I think the playlist control file is a part of the .rockbox directory in the .zip, but I am not 100% sure. Easy to find out though. 19.40.51 # It could also be something that is generated by rockbox. Not sure 19.41.04 # tucoz 19.41.10 # try long button presses, i think play and record are a and b (from gameboy controler) a-b button takes to menu which doesn't work and i have to reset mt H300 :( 19.41.30 # i remember it now.. it was generated when i tried playing music 19.41.31 # I think the playlist control file is a part of the .rockbox directory in the .zip, but I am not 100% sure. Easy to find out though. <-- it is on the H1xx so i'll assume it's the same 19.42.12 # it is probably the latter that is correct 19.43.03 # rom's don't work currently.. 19.43.20 # not properly no 19.43.27 # you can't press anything 19.43.39 Part tucoz 19.43.56 Join Kyl3 [0] (i=Kyle@cpe-24-90-232-130.nyc.res.rr.com) 19.44.06 # so basically it doesnt work 19.44.12 # no 19.45.01 # why not? 19.45.24 # no movement controls work 19.45.43 # no controls at all work 19.45.50 # you have to reset to get outta it 19.45.51 # ot cant be hard to mao comtrols can it? 19.45.53 # a-b works 19.45.55 # thats it 19.46.04 # I just tried to patch a modified iriver .hex file, failed unrecognised firmware 19.46.04 # map out controls* 19.46.22 # * Kyl3 wants rockbox to play music!! 19.46.37 # urgh 19.46.48 # it'll be a while Kyl3 :P 19.46.48 # :) 19.46.55 # but once it does it's nice 19.46.58 # me too.... 19.47.23 # if you install rockbox, you can still have all of teh functionality of the orig firmware when you boot to it, and rockbox when you dont? 19.47.44 # yes 19.47.50 # should i do it? 19.48.01 # im willing, cept it does seem rather risky now 19.48.17 # http://www.rom-world.com/dl.php?name=Gameboy 19.48.48 # does it have a chance to brick even with no fiddiling around with the firmware? 19.50.55 # DreamTactix291: there really is no point installing it now, unless you are planning to develop code for it 19.50.58 # of course there is a chance. there's always a chance 19.51.07 # err sorry 19.51.07 # DreamTactix291: i know, but i'm not an H3xx user :) 19.51.10 # H140 here 19.51.15 # meant drumrboy320 :) 19.51.50 Part Philip_0729 19.51.53 Quit muesli_- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.52.05 Quit Noel_sad_song ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 19.56.08 # can rockboy play sega master games? 19.58.24 # lol 19.58.36 # dunno why I said lol 19.58.42 # please disregard it 19.58.47 # <_FireFly_> amiconn: ?? 19.59.41 # anyone know if rockboy can play .gbc ? 19.59.49 Join Philip_0729 [0] (n=Philip_0@user-5567.lns1-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk) 19.59.56 Join Noel_sad_song [0] (n=c87ec44a@labb.contactor.se) 20.00.19 # yes it can 20.00.58 # WOO 20.00.59 # sonic 7 20.01.02 Quit Subterranean (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.01.04 # in VERY slow and no keys 20.01.26 # but it can :P 20.01.53 # :D 20.02.06 # like all the others then? 20.02.15 # dunno, its still loading ! 20.02.15 # lol 20.02.18 # very very very slow 20.05.22 # Hey ppl, mind If I ask a simple question? 20.05.31 # go on 20.05.41 # Is there any way I can avoid all the settings from being reseted every time I download a build to my player? 20.07.14 # ok 20.07.16 # MARIO! 20.07.19 # record = start 20.07.23 # a-b = menu 20.07.25 Join hardeep [0] (n=hardeep@c-67-188-108-180.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 20.07.30 # off = jump 20.07.44 # can you move?? 20.07.48 # Noel_sad_song: You need to save your settings to a file (see the Manage Settings) option. You can then select that file from the browser to restore them after installing a new version of Rockbox. 20.08.13 # nope 20.08.15 # no movement yet 20.08.17 # Noel_sad_song: But not every new version of Rockbox resets the settings, it's only done occasionally. Normally it keeps them. 20.08.22 # linux 20.08.24 # yep 20.08.33 # is there anyway that we can map the keys so we can play rockboy? 20.08.35 # just make a config file for when that happens like i do 20.09.03 # ? 20.09.44 # maybe I'm not doing it properly... I thought about saving the config but it woulnd't work If I replace it afterwords.... 20.09.58 # linux? 20.10.02 # thanks.... I'll do that 20.12.29 # any coders here? 20.12.40 # ok, last one... What are the odds of Rockbox getting wma support? 20.12.59 # when someone decides to code it :P 20.16.01 Quit Kyl3 () 20.16.08 # nobody's using wma right? what's the most used format? ogg? or just mp3? 20.16.25 # <_FireFly_> ogg mp3 flac 20.16.29 # <_FireFly_> mpc 20.16.44 # don't they lower the battery life a lot? 20.17.08 # <_FireFly_> who lower the mattery life ?? 20.17.20 # ogg does 20.17.29 # <_FireFly_> who said that 20.17.40 # ogg for instance 20.18.13 # who said it? 20.18.16 # battery tests 20.18.43 # no, the cpu usage ;-) 20.18.56 # ogg files need more cpu 20.19.12 # currently of course :) 20.19.41 # <_FireFly_> could be but the sound-quality is a better (on same kbit) afaik 20.20.02 # lol 20.20.06 # the calc work good 20.20.08 # sure, pesonnaly I like musepack sounds too 20.21.11 # thanks to preglow for cpu usage discreasing ;) 20.21.20 # for mpc files I mean 20.21.53 # anyone going to be fixing up rockboy for the H300? There seems to be something wrong with the buttons 20.22.18 # indeed 20.22.24 # ive been asking 20.22.32 # ah 20.22.44 # i am playing, i meen watching, zelda 20.22.45 # currently no developer working on it 20.22.59 # need to find somone interresting by ;) 20.23.06 # Also, not many (any?) developers with H3x0s 20.23.13 # oh 20.23.15 # indeed 20.23.44 # But I'm sure fixing Rockboy for the H3x0 will be a got introduction to Rockbox for a new H3x0-owning developer. 20.23.50 # s/got/good/ 20.24.31 # how many developers with h100's? 20.24.38 # i'd give it a go but have no idea what to do 20.24.38 # Most of us. 20.24.44 # cool 20.24.46 # yes, the news gone fastly, h3xx dev will come for sure 20.25.04 # what you mena 20.27.06 # Rockbox port for H3xx will have echo in the H3xx world community and for sure that will make dev come here ;) 20.27.29 # sorry for my english :) I'm french ;) 20.27.58 # and h140 user 20.28.15 # the best song player in the world :D 20.28.24 # <_FireFly_> yeah :) 20.28.43 # hey, what are the major changes you guy have in mind for rockbox? 20.30.25 # let's make the human creativity ;) 20.44.53 Join bitmastro [0] (n=bitmastr@d83-184-254-53.cust.tele2.it) 20.45.44 # we will rockbox be ready? 20.45.45 # ahahah 20.45.46 # excellent 20.45.48 # only joking :-) 20.45.52 # my ipod tells me to get support from apple 20.46.01 # i'm here to greet some friends 20.46.18 # <_FireFly_> preglow: :) 20.46.21 # yo 20.47.44 # acksaw have you got past level 3 on sokoban yet? 20.49.24 # preglow: Your ipod's defence system is obviously rejecting Rockbox... 20.49.34 # linuxstb: so it would seem 20.49.44 # doesn't even get to the bootloader anymore 20.50.39 # Have you tried restoring Apple's firmware? 20.50.41 Join iobound [0] (n=iobound@221.80-203-3.nextgentel.com) 20.51.14 # nah 20.51.26 # it's still got a healthy partition table, so must be something funky i'm doing in the bootloader 20.51.34 # hey bitmastro 20.51.41 # yo dt! 20.51.46 # long time no see 20.51.50 # yep 20.51.58 # ahhh, noi 20.52.07 # my bootloader size has exceeded 100 bytes 20.52.15 Quit bbad ("KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'") 20.52.20 # that's most certainly it 20.52.40 # linuxstb: we can't do that either, right? 20.53.03 # The bootloader is about 50KB... 20.53.13 # yes, but before the boot table thing 20.53.15 # But I remember that comment. Just a moment... 20.53.26 # So you've added the interrupt code? 20.54.09 # i'm trying... 20.54.23 # i removed it now, and it still taunts me with the white "go get help" scree 20.54.23 # n 20.57.09 Quit Noel_sad_song ("CGI:IRC") 21.02.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.04.42 # BITMASTRO! 21.05.03 # san, you're crazy to run rockbox! 21.05.09 # lol 21.05.11 # :-D 21.05.12 # i run rockbox :P 21.05.20 # dt on he h300? 21.05.24 # no :P 21.05.39 # aaaah! I was tempted 21.05.58 # H140 here 21.06.00 # but i've seen the time when the patcher was committed 21.06.07 # and decided to wait :-D 21.06.19 # linuxstb, preglow: could one of you increase the char lang limit please, french is too biggie 21.06.22 # ? 21.06.37 # currently 8000 char 21.07.30 # Moos: I know nothing about the language code, so I wouldn't like to do it. 21.07.50 # _french_ is too big? 21.08.06 # french lang update I mean 21.08.14 # i wouldn't have thought that language would be the first to grow too big 21.08.30 # floating point is not supported on h300, right? 21.08.37 # iobound: not directly, no 21.08.40 # no 21.08.43 # no FPU 21.08.45 # are there any emulation libraries? 21.08.49 # iobound: yes 21.09.04 # iobound: gcc has emulation routines, but don't use them, they're incredibly slow 21.09.05 # preglow: just with those 8000 char limit: new translation doesn't fit 21.09.10 # ok 21.09.16 # anything else? 21.10.19 # Two rules for efficient codecs: avoid malloc (use static buffers) and avoid floating point. 21.10.19 # iobound: anything else what? 21.10.31 # any other floating point emulators beside the slow ones in gcc? 21.10.33 # amiconn is maybe the one I need, amiconn:around? 21.10.42 # iobound: it's not possible, floating point is a slow business in software 21.10.45 # iobound: Why do you need floating point? 21.11.17 # I downloaded a bunch of c46 emulators and found one which is pure .c, but it uses floats. 21.11.23 # (for .sid playback) 21.11.24 # then convert it 21.11.32 # can't understand why it would need floats 21.11.51 # C64s didn't have FPUs... 21.11.52 # i'm guessing its for the waveform synthezising 21.12.04 # and filtering things 21.12.08 # iobound: waveform synthesizing is easy as pie with only integers 21.12.16 # iobound: same with filtering, although it's a bit harder 21.12.19 # resid has already done it 21.12.23 Quit Acksaw () 21.12.24 # ok, i just grepped for "float" and go a bunch of hits. 21.12.37 # ..got a bunch.. 21.13.55 # does anyone know what drains the most power, reading from the hard drive or running at 120mhz ? 21.14.32 # i'm guessing drive 21.14.38 # There is a page on the wiki with power consumption measurements. I forget the URL though. 21.14.55 # But almost certainly the drive. 21.15.00 # ok, so with sids there's almost no need for HD access, so it should be possible to run for even more hours before recharing :) 21.15.22 # unless one has to run at 120mhz constantly, i'm guessing the mp3 decoder doesn't do that? 21.15.26 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBattery 21.15.50 # ah ok thanks 21.16.04 # linuxstb: got it back, seems i somehow messed up my mbr 21.16.21 Quit DangerousDan ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 21.16.24 # * preglow blames cfdisk 21.16.49 # If you need larger startup code, we will need to fix make_fw to change that 0x100 limit. I've no idea if that is easy or hard. 21.18.07 # think i'll be fine 21.18.19 # i'll just remove all the handlers and stuff behind the boot table 21.22.51 Join lImbus [0] (n=MDJ@port-212-202-8-79.dynamic.qsc.de) 21.23.24 Quit mashalla (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.23.26 # Hello Limbus :) 21.23.32 # hi all 21.23.49 # how's thing Moos ? 21.24.38 # hah 21.26.28 # wow, i got rid of the nonsense characters 21.26.32 Join webguest77 [0] (n=507e7b1e@labb.contactor.se) 21.27.24 # preglow: How did you manage that? 21.27.31 # god knows 21.27.51 # something's wrong, though, if i try to write the exception vectors, it hangs at the splash 21.28.03 Join jlo [0] (n=jl@atm91-1-82-227-1-35.fbx.proxad.net) 21.28.49 Quit webguest77 (Client Quit) 21.29.01 Join webguest77 [0] (n=507e7b1e@labb.contactor.se) 21.30.34 # I think I'll pick up a h340 21.30.42 # for 215$ 21.31.01 # its physcially a little defective, missing the screen protector glass 21.31.03 # but oh well 21.31.26 # :/ get a broken h320 which'll be cheper 21.31.30 # and replace the screen 21.31.38 # the fronts are identical 21.31.45 # 8fc: deadbeef cdple 14, 10, cr11, cr13, cr15, {7} 21.31.48 # I'll try to pickup a front glass later on 21.31.50 # from haku 21.31.52 # not bad, arm can execute 0xdeadbeef 21.31.53 # heh 21.31.54 # or someone from mistricriver 21.32.24 # Are you sure it's not 0xefbeadde ? 21.32.26 # how much does the 20 gig drives go for around? 21.32.58 # linuxstb: well, what makes you think that? it is a literal i use 21.33.06 # Ignore me... 21.35.51 # hrmm, strange 21.36.08 # if i change to supervisor mode, the code works fine with my exception handlers 21.37.35 # ok, now i'm puzzled 21.37.36 Quit webguest77 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 21.42.26 # does rb support any 5gb ish players now 21.42.32 # apart from the nano that is 21.42.56 # maybe the ondio once there are 5gb-mmc-cards 21.43.03 # :) 21.43.12 # more recent stuff 21.43.23 # how is the screen on the nano 21.43.25 # small? 21.43.29 # no idea 21.43.56 # there was a mail today on the list that there is a stripped version of rockbox "running" on some iriver ifp-player 21.44.07 # maybe thats around 5gb 21.46.27 Join jaydpb [0] (n=4432b355@labb.contactor.se) 21.47.33 Quit OPP () 21.48.00 # ipod nano cant record right? even with rockbox :D 21.48.07 # and doesnt have fm 21.48.12 # why dont they put fm 21.48.22 # in ipods 21.48.26 # ill hardly know 21.48.45 Join Nixsos [0] (n=Nixsos@i62009.upc-i.chello.nl) 21.49.09 Join Coldtoast [0] (n=edan@ppp110-249.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net) 21.49.12 # hey 21.49.29 # can you use images for alternating sublines? 21.49.31 # pinkutank: maximum profits if they keep it stripped down 21.50.09 # i'm a bit rusty at C.. where is the implementation of the malloc() defined in firmware/include/malloc.h ? 21.50.10 Join webguest16 [0] (n=52e30123@labb.contactor.se) 21.50.54 Quit webguest16 (Client Quit) 21.51.48 # iobound: It's this line: extern _PTR malloc _PARAMS ((size_t)); 21.51.58 # But it uses some strange macros, which is why you don't recognise it. 21.52.28 # linuxstb, that's just the declaration (?), but where's the actual code? I found in codec.h there's a #define malloc codec_malloc, is that it? 21.52.30 # And malloc isn't implemented in Rockbox - I don't know why the .h file is there. 21.52.42 # rockbox used to have a malloc 21.52.48 # i think 21.52.52 # The codecs have their own (very stupid) malloc in apps/codecs/lib/ 21.52.53 # at least there is one in the cvs attic 21.55.08 # ok, i saw a malloc() call in libmad's layer3.c, but I guess that works because it includes "global.h" in the same dir, which includes "codec.h" and thus redefines malloc to codec_malloc. 21.55.28 # Exactly. 21.55.36 # alright! 21.55.36 Quit Wett (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.55.43 # But ideally we would like to remove all mallocs from the codecs. 21.55.43 # Dreamtactix291: it shouldnt be profits as fm chipsets are hardly any money nowadays, and having an fm and an fmrecorder in them would increase sales by 10-15% given appropriate advertisement; resulting in more profit 21.56.00 # yeah ok 21.56.32 # yeah but remember 21.56.32 # But for a first attempt at a new codec, malloc is fine. Just remember that you only have 512KB of RAM available, and free doesn't do anything. 21.56.40 # ipod users buy them just to listen to music :P 21.56.42 # also, there's a lot of malloc()s in codecs/dumb, but nothing there seems to include codec.h. I guess "make" doesn't throw any warnings because the .o files aren't actually linked or used for anything (yet)? 21.57.01 Join Wett [0] (n=wett@l04m-212-194-56-90.d4.club-internet.fr) 21.57.26 # [21:57] ipod users buy them just to listen to music :P < ipod users buy them because of the "interface-that-even-a-dumbass-can-understand" and because everybody, every star got one ! 21.59.11 # lol 21.59.13 # linuxstb, do you know if the h300 has more ram available? i think i saw 8mb mentioned somewhere. 21.59.25 # when i was hunting for a player i never considered an iPod lol 21.59.25 Quit jaydpb ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 21.59.35 # neither do I 21.59.35 # it was between my original H120 and a Karma 21.59.49 # and,I saw the price compared to iriver.. 22.00.07 # iobound: The h300 and h100 both have 32MB of RAM, but we limit the codec malloc to only 512KB of it. 22.00.07 # the ipod was 100€ more expensive 22.00.23 # iobound: And that's still far more than we would like to. 22.00.31 # linuxstb, ok, why? for portability? 22.00.47 # what about plugins? 22.00.50 # For efficiency. Rockbox is designed to work without malloc for many reasons. 22.01.09 Quit Kohlrabi (Nick collision from services.) 22.01.13 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-129-162.pools.arcor-ip.net) 22.01.17 # ok, i can see the use for codecs at least, but it would be nice to have all that RAM available for a plugin :) 22.01.26 # well i've been very impressed with the efficiency :) 22.01.30 # i updated my bootloader last night 22.01.38 # which means booting into the iriver firmware 22.01.46 # i'd forgotten how slow that firmware was compartively 22.01.53 # A codec already has about 512KB available to it for code and data. 22.02.04 # Plus an extra 512KB it can use via malloc. 22.02.18 # ok 22.02.27 # and for plugins? 22.02.30 # and.. technical question, what is "IRAM" mentioned 'everywher'? :x 22.03.06 # internal RAM 22.03.07 # I forget the size of plugins, but plugins can also claim memory from the main audio buffer - assuming they stop playback. 22.03.14 # RAM built into the CPU AFACT 22.03.26 Join Subterranean [0] (n=a@cpc1-asht1-3-0-cust160.manc.cable.ntl.com) 22.03.26 # that's what I thought, ok 22.03.59 # linuxstb, ok, thanks for the info, i'll go back and read more source now :) 22.04.18 # Are you working on a sid player as a plugin? 22.04.21 # http://cgi.ebay.com/iRiver-PMC-120-Multimedia-MP3-Player-NEW_W0QQitemZ5832728501QQcategoryZ94930QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 22.04.26 # how is this possible? 22.04.37 # only 35$ and 16 hours to go? 22.04.45 # isnt is a fraud? 22.04.59 # linuxstb, not really working on anything yet, just trying to figure out how hard it would be 22.05.03 # well i only paid $220 after everything for my PMP-120 22.05.06 # Shipping Cost Services Available Available to 22.05.07 # EUR 40.00 EMS SDS Courier Ireland Only 22.05.40 # Will ship to N. and S. America, Europe, Australia. 22.06.23 # I am confused! 22.07.10 # even if the price gets up to 100$ after shipment it is still a great chance. But will he ship to Europe, or only Ireland? 22.08.28 # yeah 22.08.36 # btw the cube looks cool in colour 22.08.39 # much cooler than on my H140 22.14.29 Part bitmastro 22.15.42 Quit jlo () 22.16.17 Join jlo [0] (n=jl@atm91-1-82-227-1-35.fbx.proxad.net) 22.16.46 Part jlo 22.17.55 Quit lImbus (" gone") 22.25.40 # why dont they put fm - because then they wouldnt be able to charge £30+ for the addon :) 22.38.17 Quit Subterranean (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.43.14 Join b0br [0] (n=3ef54246@labb.contactor.se) 22.45.41 Part b0br 22.47.27 Join yngwi [0] (n=chatzill@chello080109107064.1.15.vie.surfer.at) 22.47.46 # oh 22.47.47 # ghode 22.47.51 # i totally forgot about that 22.47.55 # yes youre right 22.48.11 # + it is the most insificant why question 22.48.23 # better one would be , why dont they make cars out of stainless steel 22.48.33 # because theyd last double their liftime 22.48.42 # for 250$ more 22.48.51 # and they wouldnt bve able to sell spares 22.48.59 # delorians were stainless 22.49.15 # they were put out of business by other corps 22.49.29 # bbl 22.49.29 # food 22.49.32 # then jdrama 22.49.52 # eh? 22.49.58 # bbl food jdrama 22.50.11 # yeah i'm going to buy food then watch some stuff 22.50.18 # oooo 22.50.21 # lol 22.50.21 # ok 22.50.24 # japanese drama ? the best ;) 22.50.27 # yes 22.50.29 # Hmm. 22.50.31 # never watched jdrama 22.50.35 # * amiconn has a problem :/ 22.50.42 # watched over 2000 edisodes of anime 22.50.51 Join curio [0] (n=curio@dsl.curio.fr) 22.50.55 # i don't watch anime much anymore 22.50.57 # * pinkutank gives a hearthy hug to amiconn 22.51.05 # I want to cleanup the backlight handling - but the backlight macros are only defined for the targets 22.51.07 # *there there* 22.51.26 # ...and undefined CONFIG_BACKLIGHT means no backlight (Ondio) 22.51.35 Join ep0ch| [0] (n=ep0ch|@84.12.156.149) 22.51.45 # I uploaded aload of pictures to Misticriver For YouGuys 22.51.47 # :D 22.52.05 # Mainly cause I was board 22.52.09 # *bored 22.53.00 # linuxstb, Bagder, other devs: It seems the best way to handle this would be to split definitions like this in 2 parts, one general macro (HAVE_BACKLIGHT) always defined, and a hw specific part (CONFIG_BACKLIGHT) which is only defined for target 22.53.23 # Would make things easier, instead of adding more and more stubs. 22.53.34 Quit Coldtoast ("Peace and Protection 4.22") 22.53.44 # thats a good idea 22.53.58 # lets leave the dinasour backlighting 22.54.02 # I think only backlight_on and backlight_off should be stubs, the rest would be always handled by firmware/backlight.c 22.54.02 # and work our dusty asses 22.54.08 # * pinkutank prays not to be kicked 22.54.16 # Slasheri: are you reading? 22.54.30 # amiconn: I was thinking the same thing earlier today about something else - higher-level defines to specify features, and lower-level defines for the implementation. 22.54.30 Join Kyl3 [0] (i=Kyle@cpe-24-90-232-130.nyc.res.rr.com) 22.54.31 # This would also allow to simulate backlight 22.54.37 # do you guys found a way to open up the h300 series without killing clips 22.54.53 # linuxstb: Yes. What specific part was that? 22.54.57 Quit gromit` (Remote closed the connection) 22.55.04 # It was the ipod button drivers. 22.55.05 Join gromit` [0] (n=gromit`@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 22.55.30 # We may have different button hardware for different ipods, but apps/ shouldn't care. 22.55.47 Join DMJC [0] (n=DMJC@220-245-177-62-sa-pppoe.tpgi.com.au) 22.55.54 # It's slightly different to the backlight example, but your comment reminded me of it. 22.56.05 Quit gromit` (Remote closed the connection) 22.56.07 # Hmm. You mean the CONFIG_KEYPAD is the same, but the driver code is different? 22.56.12 # [21:54] do you guys found a way to open up the h300 series without killing clips <--- Guitar Pict and run it between the joints, it works for me 22.56.15 Join gromit` [0] (n=gromit`@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 22.56.39 # I was the first person to inskin and I still have all my clips except one 22.56.47 # amiconn: Yes. Possibly the H100 and H300 are like that - Linus uses the same button definitions for both. 22.56.59 # Yes, currently. 22.57.15 # It might be that some buttons will be remapped for better experience. 22.57.34 # The buttons itself are the same, but the layout is different 22.57.38 # Yes, the H100 and H300 are physically different 22.57.41 # (physical layout) 22.58.03 # So on ipod there is that problem? 22.59.07 # If we want to do this split for multiple features, it might be helpful to use a consistent naming scheme 22.59.32 # ...that allows to see the category (feature/implementation) 22.59.55 # I'm not familiar with all the ipods, but it would surprise me if we don't have two identical keypads (physically) with different drivers. 23.00.44 # Well, if it's within one "family" (e.g. g1/g2/g3) it has to be handled at runtime anyway 23.01.43 # True. 23.02.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.03.18 # But even if the ipod button drivers don't turn out to be different, I'm sure something else will. So I agree we should think of a consistent naming scheme. 23.03.47 # Hmm. A clean split may be difficult for some features. 23.04.06 # We already have the LCD features split from the drivers - using LCD_WIDTH, LCD_HEIGHT etc 23.04.32 # I'm thinking about the audio codec, where the type dictates the available features and their ranges 23.05.03 # E.g. UDA1380 allows bass (0..+24), treble (0..6), balance, volume 23.05.04 # Is the "play dead" bug on the list of "bugs that must be fixed before relese" list? 23.05.33 # while MAS3587 allows bass (-12..12), treble (-12..12), balance, volume, loudness, mdb, ... 23.06.19 # If we want to split that, we would have to introduce a ton of new macros... 23.06.21 # Where is the "bugs that must be fixed before relese" list? 23.06.41 # what release 23.06.49 # yea, what release 23.06.57 # of rockbox, for h300 23.07.07 # its not even released for h1xx yet 23.07.29 # i mean publically released 23.07.44 # yes, rockbox isn't publically released for h1xx yet 23.07.45 # o.o; 23.08.58 # HCl: some people are asking for color rockboy, is it difficult to do? 23.09.01 # for the h300 would a multi band equilizer be posible? 23.09.07 # hi btw :) 23.10.04 # markun: not difficult perse, probably slower 23.10.13 # drumrboy320: yes, it's possible. Preglow still plans to do so I think. 23.10.16 # markun: i removed a lot of color-related code for speedups. 23.10.29 # HCl: Do you know how much IRAM Rockboy is using? Plugins now have 48KB to play with. 23.10.33 # markun: if one wanted to restore color support, you'd have to get the gnuboy1.0.3 sources, and re-add them 23.10.41 # linuxstb: about 500k 23.10.42 # ok 23.10.52 # how much ram has h340 got? 23.10.58 # same 32 mb as the 100's? 23.11.00 # Markun: awesome. 23.11.03 # HCl: iirc most of the colour code is just commented out, not cut 23.11.15 # really? i remember removing it.. 23.11.18 # DMJC: Yes, same as h120+ 23.11.30 # Well, the "play dead" bug is the one described in http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=1883.0 <- that thread 23.11.45 # nice name 23.12.03 # Btw, rockboy should run on h300, just in greyscale 23.12.07 # HCl: I mean IRAM - the fast internal memory 23.12.17 # amiconn: it does 23.12.31 # it doesn't 23.12.34 # (probably a bit slower than on h1x0, but certainly not much 23.12.35 # the roms load 23.12.38 # and then thats it 23.12.41 # but it crashes. and the controls are whacked 23.12.43 # you have to reset it 23.12.52 # check my post on MR for pictures 23.12.55 # yeah like... i can start Super Mario 23.13.04 # But I cant play it 23.13.24 # heh welcome to the H100 series heh 23.13.25 # linuxstb: no idea 23.13.32 # linuxstb: i moved a few speed things to iram 23.13.38 # unplayably low? 23.13.39 # I think LinusN said the LCD updates were very slow at the moment on the H300. So maybe that's the bottleneck for the H300. 23.13.43 # or locks up? 23.13.46 # linuxstb: It's simple to find out the iram usage from the .map file 23.13.55 # amiconn: I know, I'm compiling it now. 23.14.00 # i think today must be the longest irc log for a long time 23.14.27 # watch, your gonna end up with a gig of text...lol 23.15.00 # linuxstb: A bit more than 21KB 23.15.07 Nick CBM-away is now known as CheeseBurgerMan (n=BurgerBo@63.150.80.142) 23.15.15 # amiconn: So there's big gains to be made there. 23.15.17 # i don't think the h3x0 could do playable gameboy color, without adding more speed optimizations to rckboy 23.15.50 # * amiconn points in HCl's direction and whispers "assembly core" ;) 23.16.10 # * linuxstb mentions 26KB of IRAM not being used... 23.16.11 # yup 23.16.18 # i'm not gonna write that core though 23.16.22 # too busy already :/ 23.16.28 # come on, think of the fun 23.16.37 # xD 23.16.47 # nah i'm already behind with school 23.16.54 # Yes, an assembly core for the ARM. 23.17.08 # arm/ 23.17.11 Quit Nixsos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.17.11 # ? 23.17.12 Quit Kohlrabi ("Leaving") 23.17.37 # The ipod port. 23.18.00 # *shivers at the thought of writing multiple assembly cores for each target* 23.18.16 # SH1! 23.18.42 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 23.19.25 # HCl: Was the color code ever in CVS, or did you remove it before then? 23.19.35 # hm. 23.19.41 # i think i removed it before it got checked into cvs 23.19.43 # I think it was removed before 23.19.55 # rockboy used to be a seperate development branch thing on my computer 23.19.59 # it wasn't allowed in cvs at first, i think. 23.20.01 # (and iirc I was the one who checked it in) 23.20.09 # because it ran on the target but not in the sim 23.20.10 # :P 23.20.29 # amiconn: Yes, and then you madly ported it to the SH1 23.20.38 # xD 23.21.11 # Well it's running. Playable? Not really. But it should be possible 23.21.32 # Gameboy is "just" a Z80 - at which clock speed? 23.21.50 Join JvD [0] (n=tkeisala@c-24-60-224-37.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 23.22.11 # But color IS possible, correct? 23.22.23 # well, plus gfx engine 23.22.29 # and i hope you remembered to disable sound rendering 23.22.30 # heh 23.22.35 # 4.2 mhz 23.23.02 # actually 23.23.07 # the gfx engine still runs in color 23.23.11 # Hmm, and Z80 needs several cycles per instruction (4 cycles for the fastest) 23.23.27 # gnuboys code is actually incapable of running as a normal gameboy, its color gameboy only 23.23.43 # i just removed the palette code 23.23.43 # I don't see why it shouldn't be possible to emulate that on a 12MHz 32bit RISC CPU 23.23.55 # (whic single cycle instructions) 23.24.14 # s/whic/with/ 23.25.18 # and i can't imagine why coldfire shouldn't be able to do it 23.25.25 # should be able with lots to spare 23.25.26 # of course 23.25.57 # but ok, back to interrupts 23.26.05 # I think gnuboy does some things in a very portable, but also very slow way 23.26.07 # i need to enable an interrupt to see if i've got it working 23.26.16 # damn rfockbox take all my time :P 23.26.23 # i dont even know c 23.26.29 # and im online 24/7 23.26.37 # its addictive 23.26.43 # haha 23.26.51 # compiling, wpsingi patching 23.27.02 # and yapping nonsense 23.27.11 # yapping nonsense i always fun 23.27.14 # is, even 23.27.20 # my favourite activity 23.27.28 # lol 23.27.43 # yes 23.27.48 # especially after 3 am 23.27.53 # when it comes naturally 23.30.13 # people start requesting dancing asian chicks for their wpss 23.30.21 # if I was macho-mano 23.30.27 # I would do it 23.30.39 # but I'm against casual sex :D 23.30.55 Quit Wett (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.30.57 # haha 23.31.10 # they're not asking you to have sex with your player, just make a wps for it 23.31.23 Join jaydpb [0] (n=4432b355@labb.contactor.se) 23.31.25 # I can do a dancing hello kitty tho 23.31.32 # :D 23.31.41 # a pedophile zoophile combo 23.31.48 # nooooo 23.31.57 # I don't want a kitty ;) 23.31.57 # lol Timid 23.32.08 # ecchi 23.32.12 # sukebei 23.32.33 # tentacles special for you perhaps ? 23.32.35 # :P 23.32.41 # tentacles.wps 23.32.43 Part ep0ch| 23.32.46 # :D 23.32.52 # lol 23.32.56 # no tentacules 23.33.04 # I don't like animes hehe 23.33.16 # hentai anime? or normal anime? 23.33.28 # I dont like hentai anime 23.33.29 # hentai animes 23.33.34 # but I like normal animes 23.33.36 # I don't watch them 23.33.39 # actually more than like 23.33.45 # watched 2000 episodes 23.33.48 # I watch sometimes normal animes 23.33.53 # read 1000 ep mangas 23.34.19 # Im not a one that has sex with myself 23.34.23 # but if I were one 23.34.33 # itd be on anime 23.34.36 # not anime 23.34.37 # linuxstb: some interesting functions, like request_irc, don't seem to be in the ipl source at all 23.34.38 # but 23.34.41 # drawn stuff 23.34.46 # linuxstb: i assume they're in the normal linux kernel source, then 23.34.47 # oops that went out loud 23.35.09 # :( 23.35.13 # beark 23.35.38 # beark? 23.36.08 # french onomatopoeia 23.36.32 # oh 23.36.36 # the one thats like 23.36.38 # yeach 23.36.44 # something like that :) 23.36.47 Join Subterranean [0] (n=a@cpc1-asht1-3-0-cust160.manc.cable.ntl.com) 23.36.50 # showin that you are disgusted 23.37.08 # yep :) 23.37.10 # people use it in turkish too 23.37.13 # anime girls ughhhh 23.37.23 # haha 23.37.23 # I m not talking about tentacles and monsters tho 23.37.25 # i don't get anime 23.37.26 # no way! 23.37.43 # the majority of it is shit 23.37.44 # anything that has rape in it, angers me to hell 23.38.03 # preglow, yes but I like supernatural stuff 23.38.11 # because normal stuff is doable 23.38.12 # :) 23.38.16 # when it comes to anime, you can't get better than cowboy bebop, i'm afraid 23.38.20 # only thing that works 23.38.26 # some anime / mangas worth it 23.38.29 # its treally good 23.38.32 # i cried when it was over 23.38.37 # but the majority is just commercial shit 23.38.39 # and small wonder at that 23.38.40 # * markun watched Kiki's delivery service today 23.38.47 # was it good markun 23.38.51 # couldnt watch it yet 23.38.59 # miyazaki's animesa re very good 23.39.02 # i really like studio ghibli 23.39.06 # all miyazaki is good 23.39.07 # Me and my girlfriend liked it 23.39.07 # preglow: you should try some samurai champoo, from the same makers 23.39.13 # ghode|afk: i hated it 23.39.31 # i liked champloo 23.39.37 # ermm 23.39.38 # well its not as good as CB but it has its moments 23.39.44 # I like tsubasa chronicles 23.39.50 # perhaps, i didn't really give it much of a chance ;) 23.39.57 # most anime doesn't sit too well with me 23.40.00 # the mushroom episode was fun 23.40.10 # i like ghost in the shell movies 23.40.15 # i liked animatrix 23.40.53 # GTO was good 23.40.57 # and fun 23.41.07 Quit CheeseBurgerMan (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.41.14 # one that I like : bokusatsu tenshi dokuro-chan 23.41.19 # 2nd degree 23.41.48 # GTO is fun 23.41.50 # but slow 23.41.57 # I watched it in fast motion 23.42.01 # x3 realtime 23.42.24 # it was like reading incredibly fast scrolling text and watching chipmunks 23.42.29 # but I didnt miss anything 23.42.33 # GTO is an analysis of the human hypocrisy 23.42.36 # and its ending was really vad 23.42.42 # was interresting and fun 23.42.43 # like? 23.43.15 Join CheeseBurgerMan [0] (n=BurgerBo@63.150.80.142) 23.43.20 # hey all anime discussion while I am watching Vision of Escaflowne? 23.43.39 # * CheeseBurgerMan assumes that's an anime... 23.43.46 # yes 23.43.53 Quit jaydpb ("CGI:IRC") 23.44.01 # good anime drawing but I dislike their noses 23.44.08 # they are HUGE! 23.44.16 # lol 23.44.53 # and the eyes ughhhh 23.45.02 # no 23.45.07 # I like the eyes 23.45.17 # or do you mean eye in Escaflowne? 23.45.22 # ^eyes 23.45.26 # japanese seems to have something to compensate :) 23.46.36 # I wonder whats with the ultra huge breasts 23.46.47 # every anime has a reference or two to breasts 23.46.49 # for the perverts 23.46.55 # melo-melo :P 23.46.58 # to sell more 23.46.59 # yes I dislike ultra huge breasts too... 23.47.09 # I have a chinese manga in my hands 23.47.10 # co-co 23.47.15 # they are disturbed over there ... 23.47.15 # It has caharcters 23.47.16 # that has 23.47.17 # But in normal anime titles this is not frequent 23.47.27 # I would like to know somethings about jtag/bdm.. anyone who could help? 23.47.28 # %50 percent of their body as breasts 23.47.41 # haha 23.47.50 # its not sexy, its a kids manga 23.47.54 # its jsut funny 23.48.10 Join RotAtoR [0] (n=18e7f919@labb.contactor.se) 23.48.31 # if you want perfect anime drawing (but not so in depth story) see Ah! My goddess. 23.48.44 # its not bad 23.48.47 # I have the dvd 23.48.50 # but its raw 23.48.54 # :) 23.48.55 # a typical shounen title but the anime is great 23.49.00 # eh? 23.49.03 # raw as to what? 23.49.06 # no subtitles 23.49.08 # Ah my goddess is very thick :( 23.49.19 # thick? 23.49.24 # superficial 23.49.37 # timdi? 23.49.39 # not superficial 23.49.45 # what kinda thick 23.49.48 # I can't find the word 23.49.50 # then? 23.49.57 # whats the french 23.49.58 # Isn't there a #anime on freenode.. 23.50.08 # what you don't like? 23.50.14 # "niais" 23.50.21 # Yes there is, markun 23.51.00 # markun: Do you say to us to continue there? 23.51.04 # niais is like 23.51.06 # ;) 23.51.07 # not really smart 23.51.10 # ? 23.51.20 Join speed123 [0] (n=speed123@p54BB92B2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 23.51.42 # Air TV was very good imho. (both anime and story) 23.51.47 # hmm something like that, something that is intentionnaly dumb 23.52.06 # yes but the animation was perfect. 23.52.18 # but the story ... 23.52.26 # air was also very good 23.52.28 # yeah I know... 23.52.30 Nick CheeseBurgerMan is now known as CBM-away (n=BurgerBo@63.150.80.142) 23.52.43 # kanon also 23.52.56 # death note is smart 23.52.56 # even if the video wasn't as good as air 23.52.58 # but its manga 23.53.04 # I want to see Elfen lied, is that good? 23.53.10 # so so 23.53.26 # it's to watch 23.53.35 # hmm I think I will get to see kanon 23.54.03 # kanon is from the same studio as AIR 23.54.18 # and as air it was from an hentai CG 23.54.19 # yes I know that's why I am tempted 23.54.26 # wow 23.54.29 # lol 23.54.37 # because it was from hentai ? XD 23.54.37 # I have heard that too, but... 23.54.38 # do you mean they have good graphics 23.54.43 # or both are not thick and good 23.54.56 # air was an xbox game title I think. 23.55.03 # computer game 23.55.04 # timid 23.55.07 Part speed123 23.55.11 # is air and kanon good 23.55.12 # tes 23.55.18 # yes it's very good 23.55.22 # or just graphically? 23.55.31 # graphically air is very good 23.55.34 # I agree on Air, now I want to see kanon 23.55.39 # the story is good too 23.55.44 # I mean as an anime 23.55.47 # I prefer kanon that air 23.55.51 # what else would you advice 23.55.57 # ? 23.56.07 # I need more anime 23.56.14 # 4 episodes a week doesnt cut it 23.56.27 # what you wnat story or better animation? 23.56.40 # or only both 23.56.52 # both 23.57.06 # that's hard. 23.57.07 # full metal alchemist was good I Tohught 23.57.30 # well I liked NGE but I think that you have seen it, no? 23.57.34 # kenshin was good to a point 23.57.36 # NGE? 23.57.37 # moshi ichigo no pantsu ga mite hoshigatte iru, ichigo wo mite mo ii desu 23.57.54 # Neon Genesis Evangelion 23.58.00 # no not all 23.58.19 # very good story imho 23.58.33 # it is considered to be a classic 23.58.37 # timid 23.58.40 # what did you say aagain