--- Log for 07.12.105 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 2 days ago 00.00.54 # Bagder/ LinusN: What do you think about [IDC]Dragon's idea to limit the volume range to -99..+12 dB on archos recorders and ondios, to avoid needing 4 chars? 00.01.31 # I think its a good idea 00.01.46 # less than -99 can hardly be audible, can it? 00.02.08 # Not really... 00.02.49 # Bagder: Do you use your iriver exclusively? 00.03.01 # mostly at least 00.03.20 # I use whatever I think is most useful 00.03.57 # Currently this is most often the recorder v1, but for travelling without my car I prefer the Ondio FM because of its size 00.05.51 Quit dpassen1 () 00.07.00 Join coob [0] (i=pen0r@host-84-9-63-253.bulldogdsl.com) 00.07.17 # <_FireFly_> Lost-ash: i have also no problems on the device (iriver h120) 00.07.37 # anyone working on the ipod alive? linuxstb? 00.08.30 # hi coob, how's the ipod video support going? 00.08.42 # <_FireFly_> linuxstb: ?? have you got the patch or should i put in on tracker ?? 00.08.51 # markun: The player virtual keyboad doesn't work at all with unicode... 00.09.36 # I'll try to fix it 00.09.58 # _FireFly_: I'm just testing it now. 00.09.58 Quit tim66 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.09.59 # The picker line is completely empty 00.10.06 # <_FireFly_> linuxstb: ok 00.10.31 # coob: Hello. 00.13.47 # markun: slow. it uses a broadcom co-proc/soc 00.14.06 # that uses an instruction set we don't know much about 00.14.27 # amiconn: renaming in the player sim looks normal I think 00.14.39 # lcd is currently slow++ 00.15.02 # linuxstb: have you seen our upcoming bootloader? 00.15.26 # coob: I've read about it, but haven't tried it. How is it coming along? 00.16.03 # nicely, loads from either the firmware partition, ext2 or fat, hfs being worked on 00.16.12 # selection menus etc 00.16.23 # it's in our svn repo if you want to play with it 00.17.11 # https://opensvn.csie.org/traccgi/courtc 00.19.18 # I read that it has an interactive boot menu. Is it possible to disable that and make it immediately load a firmware unless a button is pressed? 00.20.06 # markun: Hmm, strange. win32 player sim seems to work, but target does not :( 00.20.13 # anything's possible :) 00.20.35 # i've not used it yet myself, currently learning the intricacies of hfs so i can test it out on my pod 00.22.41 # Bagder: Is it intended behaviour that 'make clean' in a build dir also cleans the tools? 00.22.49 # yes 00.22.56 # hmm 00.23.10 # how would it differentiate it? 00.23.33 # make allclean, or somesuch 00.24.00 # It's just that it seems a waste of time to me, especially on cygwin 00.24.12 # _FireFly_: I have to admit I don't understand the new gui code at all, but your patch seems to work. 00.24.16 # linuxstb: currently the config's hard coded anyway 00.24.43 Quit ep0ch| ("gone") 00.27.17 # amiconn: isn't make clean a waste to start with? 00.27.28 # Well, perhaps 00.27.43 # It avoids the need to reconfigure, which is also slow on cygwin 00.28.03 # <_FireFly_> amiconn: not really 00.28.15 # ...and for the simulator, rm -r * would also remove the archos/ dir and sector3D.bin, which I want to avoid 00.28.21 # <_FireFly_> becasue if the configure script gets modified then you need an reconfigure 00.30.30 # <_FireFly_> time for bed, good night erverybody 00.31.29 Join Kyl3 [0] (i=no@cpe-24-90-232-130.nyc.res.rr.com) 00.31.46 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 00.32.24 # Bagder: It's possible to allow -100 dB minimum, since the status bar will display the mute symbol for the lowest value 00.32.25 # Unicode support means I can use that backwards R for Korn? 00.32.43 # ah 00.33.15 # Kyl3: If it's somewhere in the unicode range and the font has a glyph for it.. 00.33.33 # ahh ok 00.37.53 Quit ender` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.38.06 # thanks for the help, i nearly have my plugin doing what i want 00.39.26 Quit amar ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.40.07 # Kyl3: I just tried KoRn with reversed R and it works with unifont and 5x7 (probably all the other ?x? fonts as well) 00.41.49 # Kyl3: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Korn 00.48.40 # markun: I know what's going on with the player vkeyboard 00.49.02 # Look at apps/player/keyboard.c, line 144 00.49.29 # You don an iso_decode on the line[] array, casting to an unsigned char * 00.49.43 # However, line[] is an unsigned short array 00.50.02 # hm, not good 00.50.05 # It works on the sim because the sim is little endian, meaning the low byte comes first 00.50.14 # But the target is big endian... 00.51.07 # It seems like a mistake that lines[] is a short array 00.51.27 # It only ever holds latin1, nothing else 00.52.04 Join San [0] (n=Test@213-202-162-152.bas503.dsl.esat.net) 00.52.22 # It even was me who overlooked this when remaking the player vkeyboard... 00.53.41 # amiconn: do you want to fix it? 00.54.32 # * amiconn is already working on it 00.55.08 # Hmm. 00.55.25 # How do I run an unsigned char up to 0xff in a for() loop? 00.56.02 # just ignore the qn 00.56.10 # how did you solve it? :) 00.56.22 # I just use an unsigned it 00.56.25 # int 00.57.35 # that's cheating :) 01.00.36 Quit DangerousDan ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 01.01.34 # _much_ better this way :) 01.04.33 Join CheeseBurgerMan [0] (n=BurgerBo@63.150.80.142) 01.10.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.14.04 Quit CheeseBurgerMan (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The professional IRC Client") 01.21.59 Part webguest28 01.22.19 # Type casting sometimes drive me nuts. I just spent an hour hunting a bug I should've noticed in a flash 01.24.48 Part leftright 01.32.11 # * amiconn likes bugfixes which even save RAM (or other resources) 01.37.17 Quit Kohlriba ("Leaving") 01.39.06 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=paulthen@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 01.41.33 Join yngwi [0] (n=chatzill@chello080109107064.1.15.vie.surfer.at) 01.44.07 Join RotAtoR [0] (n=e@12-210-82-91.client.insightBB.com) 01.44.57 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.49.26 Quit JonSenior ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.10") 01.50.22 Quit actionshrimp (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.57.35 Quit DJDD_ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 01.58.25 Join DJDD_ [0] (n=DJDD@220-245-186-182.static.tpgi.com.au) 01.59.16 Quit yngwi ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5.1 [Firefox 1.5/undefined]") 02.01.04 Nick Lost-ash is now known as ashridah (n=ashridah@69.55.227.55) 02.02.47 Quit Kyl3 ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 02.03.50 # damnit. the unit still hangs when i select a WPS 02.04.40 # * ashridah downloads yet another bleeding edge 02.06.29 Join actionshrimp [0] (n=NNSCRIPT@host86-136-104-122.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) 02.07.05 # selecting a theme works okay. 02.07.16 # just selecting an individual WPS fails 02.08.14 Quit chendo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.09.09 # so the question I have is how does one know if a bootloader they build but that has a different md5 than the one that Linus releases will work? 02.09.35 # it's really not a good idea to use a bootloader you've built from source 02.09.47 # I know 02.09.58 # I'm not very smart. 02.10.25 # the simple answer is, you don't know, which is why it's best left to the guy who has a way to recover his unit :) 02.11.09 # *nod* I guess the question is: is there a particular reason that building the bootloader from source would break when building the rest of rockbox from source works. 02.12.17 # just because rockbox builds doesn't mean it'll run 02.12.29 # I know, but I build rockbox and run it from source all the time 02.12.46 # but really, there's no point in rebuilding the bootloader, since 99% of changes don't affect it 02.12.54 # but the 1% may brick the unit 02.13.30 # but they share disk drivers and lcd drivers and whatnot. minor changes in those might not get noticed at the bootloader 02.13.42 # yes yes, I suppose I won't try it until I get a better understanding of the code in it. I have taken several classes in m68k assembly and hardware, so I'm not really afraid of it 02.16.11 Quit Seed (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.19.52 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@85-64-200-85.barak-online.net) 02.21.06 # so, anyway, loading a wps from a freshly resetted unit hangs the device. loading a theme works, and after which, loading a wps seems to work 02.21.10 # weird 02.21.46 # quite. 02.22.11 # I blame Cthulhu. 02.22.38 # i take that back 02.22.46 # loading a theme doesn't stop it from hanging 02.23.59 # I still blame Cthulhu. 02.24.18 # Have you reset the settings and done a clean re-install? 02.24.39 # yes 02.24.53 # '< ashridah> so, anyway, loading a wps from a freshly resetted unit ' 02.25.09 # and yeah, i nuked .rockbox and got the most recent bleeding edge 02.25.18 # Have you sacrificed your young to the Great and Almighty Master who waits beneath the seas? 02.25.39 # well, since i don't have and i'm not aiming to have children, that shouldn't be a problem. 02.25.58 # Probably why it's not working. Try someone else's young. 02.26.05 # gladly. 02.26.24 # part of the benefits of being in a holiday park 02.26.43 # plenty of noisy candidates 02.27.03 # *mutters something about how the hell he's going to make profiling not get wrong times when it hits recursion* 02.27.12 # heh 02.27.19 # (I don't think the new config loading patch has gone in yet, so it can't be that.) 02.27.28 # (Wonder if it's unicode.) 02.27.37 # maybe. i haven't updated in a few days 02.27.42 # so i'm not sure when the bug hit 02.28.23 # If you wanted to find out exactly what was causing it, you could run it in a debugger under the sim. 02.28.53 # Cassandra: yeah, except i'm about 850k's away from my usual workstation :) 02.29.17 # Can't help you with that, I'm afraid. 02.31.39 # if i was at home, i'd just start going backwards in cvstill the problem cropped up 02.31.53 # s/cropped/ nolonger cropped/ 02.32.00 # anyway, it's lunchtime. 02.32.03 Nick ashridah is now known as Lost-ash (n=ashridah@69.55.227.55) 02.34.31 Join Sando [0] (n=lolsteam@techgaming.net) 02.35.36 Quit Strath (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.38.01 # Do you people think reading 32k off a flash cart takes much longer time than 8kbytes? 02.40.45 # Or perhaps the software just should group the data by blocks and look for the end marker. 02.41.03 # Yeah, that sounds better. 02.41.11 # Thanks for the help :D 02.42.53 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 02.43.01 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@85-64-200-85.barak-online.net) 02.43.53 Join Strath [0] (n=mike@dpc674681214.direcpc.com) 02.58.57 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 02.59.04 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@85-64-200-85.barak-online.net) 03.01.28 # Which of the FAT32 rules does a directory name called "R.E.M." break? 03.02.31 Join Midgey34 [0] (n=Midgey34@c-24-11-55-125.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 03.03.31 # linuxstb: The dot at the end 03.08.35 # Not sure whether this is a strict rule for vfat, but it's impossible to create such dirs/files in windows 03.10.01 # My iBook renamed the directory to R.E.M_ and Rockbox won't let me rename it. 03.10.13 # (when I copied from the iBook to my H140) 03.10.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.12.15 # Linux enforces the same rule (it drops the last dot) 03.12.28 # hmm 03.13.16 Join elinenbe [0] (i=trilluse@207-237-225-224.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 03.15.34 # does anyone have any suggestions on the colors of each the objects for Sokoban on the h300? 03.16.21 Join Gibbed [0] (i=rick@pool-71-108-9-40.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 03.16.23 Quit Rick (Nick collision from services.) 03.16.27 # right now, the walls are dark green, the character is black, the pushable blocks are blue and the targets are red. Once a block is on the target it turns brown 03.16.32 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-71-108-9-40.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 03.17.41 # That actually sounds pretty good to me, depending on the shades. 03.18.08 # well right now, they look a little funny, its hard to make them look nice 03.18.14 # Aaah 03.18.34 # it might just be the sim, they look slightly different on target 03.19.47 # Ah well, I only have an H120 anyway. Heh 03.22.50 Join San [0] (n=Test@A-78-47.cust.iol.ie) 03.30.19 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ipa216.4.tellas.gr) 03.37.00 Join webguest59 [0] (n=3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) 03.37.51 # linuxstb: about fat and dots: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=782248&group_id=44306&atid=439118 03.37.57 Quit webguest59 (Client Quit) 03.40.40 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@p54BD551A.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.54.59 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.55.07 Join CableMan391 [0] (i=CableMan@pool-71-249-51-49.nycmny.east.verizon.net) 03.56.36 Part CableMan391 03.56.39 Join CableMan391 [0] (i=CableMan@pool-71-249-51-49.nycmny.east.verizon.net) 03.57.05 Part CableMan391 03.58.09 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.58.10 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@p54BD551A.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.59.47 # what does everyone think of this --> http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7430/screendump25lh.png ? 04.09.09 # Do the boxes look bad solid? 04.11.35 # that's the opinion I'm trying to gather, I think they look fine, but the yellow ones may need borders 04.17.41 # You could even do the crates as like... I dunno, I often see them as like, light colored boxes with four dark points, or an X of darker color in them. [::] or [X] 04.18.45 # alright 04.20.31 # Just offering ideas, y'know. :) 04.22.30 Join vampiria [0] (n=vampiria@201.132.81.171) 04.23.05 # yep 04.25.35 # does anyone here have an h300 with rockbox? 04.25.41 # I do 04.25.58 # could you step me through the settings screens to reset settings to default? 04.26.00 # please... 04.26.10 # I chose the japanese font with a non-unicode font! 04.26.11 # ug! 04.26.33 # first A-B to get to settings. 04.26.50 # then the manage settings option, but I can't see any of them. 04.28.16 # press a-b, go down 4, hit right, go down 3, hit right 04.28.24 # that should do it 04.29.19 # thanks! got it! 04.29.33 # yep no problem 04.29.49 Quit YouCeyE (Remote closed the connection) 04.30.05 Part vampiria 04.30.38 Join YouCeyE [0] (n=YouCeyE@vp089013.reshsg.uci.edu) 04.38.34 Quit Paul_The_Nerd (Excess Flood) 04.42.30 Quit lostlogicx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.42.39 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@58.77.81.144) 04.43.18 Quit hardeep ("BitchX: the IRC client with hair on its balls") 05.00.03 Quit Strath (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.01.31 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB27583.ipt.aol.com) 05.04.31 Join Strath [0] (n=mike@dpc674681214.direcpc.com) 05.10.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.11.10 # ahhh, rockbox USB is so much better than iRiver USB. 05.13.18 Part Midgey34 05.17.20 Quit Rob2222_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.28.30 Quit tvelocity (Remote closed the connection) 05.32.03 Join San [0] (n=Test@194.125.95.16) 05.34.32 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.35.32 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ipa216.4.tellas.gr) 05.39.17 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=paulthen@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 05.59.45 Quit RotAtoR () 06.02.29 Quit tvelocity ("Leaving") 06.32.28 Quit Paul_The_Nerd ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5.1 [Firefox 1.5/undefined]") 06.50.15 Join grantashman [0] (n=grant@CPE-60-229-181-5.nsw.bigpond.net.au) 06.50.36 # Hey guys, I thought that the LCD turned off with the backlight as of V3/ 06.51.22 # Anyone here? 06.55.19 Quit grantashman ("Leaving") 06.58.54 # �Ϫ� 07.10.06 Join Noel_sad_song [0] (n=c87ec44a@labb.contactor.se) 07.10.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.11.58 # Hi ppl (if you keep adding features you're gonna drive me nuts) I could see last time, before i downloaded the last build that the remote would show me a lil disk when the hdd was spinnig... what is the code I should use on the rwps for it to show? 07.13.58 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-19-241-33.bna.bellsouth.net) 07.32.18 Quit Noel_sad_song ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 07.37.11 # morning :) 07.47.31 # morning 07.50.42 Quit YouCeyE (Remote closed the connection) 07.51.39 Join YouCeyE [0] (n=YouCeyE@vp089013.reshsg.uci.edu) 08.14.39 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.17.14 # Doesn't rockbox support lyrics? 08.19.06 # not yet, afaik. 08.19.09 Nick Lost-ash is now known as ashridah (n=ashridah@69.55.227.55) 08.19.18 # not sure it's really been considered yet 08.20.03 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 08.28.06 # oh lord, give me a wireless mouse that doesn't suck ass 08.28.15 Nick ashridah is now known as Lost-ash (n=ashridah@69.55.227.55) 08.51.26 Join Gibbed [0] (i=rick@pool-71-108-9-40.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 08.51.26 Quit Rick (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.51.40 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-71-108-9-40.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 08.57.25 # Break!! 08.59.49 # coffee break! 09.03.08 # lostlogic: why do you build your own bootloader? 09.05.41 # wow 09.05.41 # http://manian.dreamwiz.com/board/view.asp?bid=A010101&no=36554 09.06.36 Quit YouCeyE (Remote closed the connection) 09.06.52 # This player supports Wi-Fi. 09.07.08 # and HDD Player 09.07.08 # cool 09.07.21 Join YouCeyE [0] (n=YouCeyE@vp089013.reshsg.uci.edu) 09.08.04 # excessively ugly, though 09.10.29 # hahahahaha 09.10.29 # http://img.manian.dreamwiz.com/A060101/2005/12/07/50513_1.jpg 09.10.32 # I bet wifi eats battery nice and fast 09.10.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.11.10 # ah. 09.11.11 # lol 09.11.19 # that Wi-Fi player is pretty ugly btw 09.11.33 # i've seen worse 09.11.42 # but it's pretty ugly nonetheless 09.12.47 # Microsoft pays penalty in the South Korea. 09.13.35 # http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=28082 09.13.43 # that's a nicer player ;-) 09.14.16 # I cann't see. 09.14.32 # Ah, look now. 09.14.40 # hahaha 09.14.48 # hahaha 09.14.56 # it's almost identical! 09.15.00 # hehe 09.15.11 # haha 09.15.45 # http://img.manian.dreamwiz.com/A060201/2005/06/29/109993_1.jpg 09.15.57 # This is iPod really. 09.16.54 # http://manian.dreamwiz.com/board/view.asp?bid=A010101&no=36555 09.17.09 # Very thin battery. 09.20.07 # morning Jungti1234, can you send me an updated version of the korean translation so I can commit? 09.20.23 # hi 09.20.31 # Is working now. 09.23.12 # coffeecoffeecoffeecoffee 09.23.59 # If drink much coffee, isn't good in body. 09.24.40 # no shit 09.24.45 # that's why i try not to drink too much, heh 09.25.04 # nah, no more than 10-12 cups a day ;-P 09.25.08 # haha 09.25.19 # i've seen too many coffee addicts in my life 09.25.31 # Bagder: and 5-6 at night 09.26.02 # i met a guy who'd just start shaking if he didn't get his coffee 09.27.56 # Let's sleep early. 09.28.55 # http://www.delldjsite.com/ <= Dell's newcomer DAP with color LCD and 30GB 09.30.00 # the dancepuffduo theme is just hilarious 09.30.40 # i take it rockbox has no general button accelaration scheme i can just plug in to the playback speed screen? 09.31.18 Nick Lynx_awy is now known as Lynx_ (n=lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 09.32.24 # what's xm radio? 09.32.36 # the button repeat already accelerates, but only to a certain speed 09.34.02 # yeah, not enough by far 09.34.19 # damn, i need to get this ipod rockbox going so i can do some djing 09.34.22 # that'd frigging rock 09.38.34 # Perhaps the pitch screen should just increase/decrease by a larger amount (0.5% ?) with button repeat, and by 0.1% with single button events 09.39.13 # good idea, try it 09.40.42 Join perplexity [0] (n=joust@83.110.209.107) 09.42.46 Join Vlad0man [0] (n=Vladoman@p54A7D398.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.46.03 Join Moos [0] (n=c13354c1@labb.contactor.se) 09.46.33 # Morning 09.47.13 # morning 09.47.39 Join ModernExecutive [0] (n=bob@pool-162-83-126-136.norf.east.verizon.net) 09.47.49 # hi Moos :) 09.48.20 Join San [0] (n=Test@213-202-179-156.bas504.dsl.esat.net) 09.50.56 # LinusN: any plans about a new bootloader for h300 ? 09.51.17 # yes, some day 09.51.42 # 10 print $topic ; 20 goto 10 09.51.53 # :-) 09.52.14 # perplexity: so, how's tremor work going? 09.53.02 # Been on hold.. domestic duties I'm afraid.. but it is working with a standard ifft now.. so at least I can play with different fft algorithms.. 09.53.34 # Hi. I don't mean to be impudent, but I was curious as to how things stand with integrating the h300 bootloader on the us firmware. 09.53.35 # you got a patch lying around? 09.53.37 # i mean with USB mode... 09.53.42 Join saa[b_r]ider [0] (n=saab_rid@61.149.21.158) 09.53.52 # perplexity: you're using kiss fft, yeah? 09.54.04 # hello everyone.. 09.54.10 # I am looking into extending qemu to have a h300 target at the moment.. It's such an easily extensible architecture for a simulator that writing hw plugins for it is very easy.. 09.54.13 # * Bagder has a Saab 09.54.28 Join San||Away [0] (n=Test@194.125.99.248) 09.54.33 # hi saa[b_r]ider ;) 09.54.36 # awesome :D 09.54.44 # Bagder: don't all swedes? ;) 09.54.48 # Actually, at the moment preglow, I'm using the fft in libfaad.. but I have been looking at others and am busy learning the math to try and make it easier to understand.. 09.54.55 # preglow: only half, the rest have Volvos 09.55.02 # hello markun 09.55.14 # Volvos rock! 09.55.32 # * Cassandra has a bicycle. :) 09.55.35 # the one volvo i have driven sure rocks 09.55.48 # the old ones that were built like a car/tank hybrid 09.55.59 # I had 5 Volvos before I relocated countries.. now I'm destined to drive Japanese :( 09.56.40 # Cassandra: yeah, that's what i've got currently too 09.56.53 # though it's pretty much unusable with the amount of ice on the roads 09.57.02 Join Membrillo [0] (n=sam_kill@CPE-144-131-87-124.nsw.bigpond.net.au) 09.57.38 # has anyone here got any experience with the inet control in visual basic? 09.57.52 # * preglow shudders 09.58.03 Quit ModernExecutive () 09.58.05 # http://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/vb/ ;-) 09.58.18 # * perplexity likes the h300 USB mode :) 09.58.21 # ModernExecutive: nobody dares to try a patched 1.04 firmware in fear of losing drm 09.58.38 # * LinusN has to go 09.58.54 # Make sure you wash your hands LinusN :) 09.59.26 # how nice.. red builds :( 09.59.34 # woo 09.59.49 # I'm an idiot 09.59.52 Quit Vladoman (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.00.07 # hey, then we can make a team! ;-) 10.00.39 # hahaha 10.01.01 # i'm a fool 10.01.06 # * Bger joins the team and proposes himself as leader 10.01.09 # i'm pretty certain i fit in with the rockbox scheme somewhere 10.04.28 # Somewhere under the category of "whipping boy" or something. 10.08.39 # time to work 10.09.16 Join saab_rider [0] (n=saab_rid@61.149.21.158) 10.09.43 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.10.39 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=icechat5@pd95b7c08.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 10.11.05 # Bagder.. You are overstrict. 10.11.25 # my boss is hard and ruthless 10.11.31 # :-P 10.11.33 # <_FireFly_> markun ? 10.11.35 # i was thinking more along the lines of something with "fool", "idiot" or "twit" in the title 10.11.38 # :P 10.12.05 # <_FireFly_> you have something forgotten to change also in bookmark.c :) 10.12.16 # <_FireFly_> the line struct text_message message={(char **)lines, 3}; must be struct text_message message={(char **)lines, 1}; 10.12.37 # <_FireFly_> because the lines-string array as now only one line and not 3 10.13.04 # can anyone give _FireFly_ commit rights? 10.13.29 # Bagder? 10.15.07 # I note the wiki ( http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/QuickMenu ) says there is a bug on the h3x0 not being able to enter the quick menu from the WPS using hold A-B. Is there another way to get to the quick menu ? 10.15.15 # _FireFly_: well, I fixed it, thanks 10.15.29 Quit San||Away (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.16.12 # <_FireFly_> markun np 10.18.34 # Nope. 10.18.49 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-128-054.pools.arcor-ip.net) 10.18.50 # It's not really a bug. It only works on the H1xx by accident. 10.19.27 # It has to do with the order in which buttons are detected by the hardware. 10.19.38 # amiconn can explain way better than I can. 10.20.08 # So the quick menu on the h300 is currently inaccessible ? (I did get it working occassionally on my h300, but I had no idea at the time how I did it or what it was) 10.20.38 # Ok, Ta.. I might have a look at the code and see if I can figure out some way of making it happen.. 10.21.11 # What is Replaygain? 10.21.16 # I should definitely talk to amiconn then. 10.21.38 # A way of making the volume of songs consistent across different tracks. 10.25.24 # or albums 10.26.04 # or just making them as loud as they can before losing quality 10.27.05 # well that's possible too 10.27.09 # but wasn't the original intent 10.27.46 # its what i use it for :) 100% isnt enough for me 10.28.04 # lol more power to you 10.28.38 # i use the tag based replaygain system via foobar2000's scanner 10.28.40 # and have for a long time 10.28.49 # i quiet my stuff down 10.28.55 # the replaygain scanner doesn't normalise to peak volume by default 10.29.03 # nope 10.29.19 # and even if it did, that would also usually mean a negative gain 10.29.31 # yeah 10.29.39 # with the way a lot of CDs are mastered now :| 10.29.59 # well, yeah, and after encoding, the peak usually ends up higher 10.30.01 # above 100% 10.30.03 # yep 10.30.10 # that's why replaygain is great for lossy encoding 10.30.21 # of course lossless encoding can't go over 100% 10.30.21 Quit Moos ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 10.30.30 # well, it's good for lossles as well 10.30.34 # but i still prefer the decreased gain on playback with lossless 10.30.38 # but at least you don't have the peak level above 100% there 10.30.49 # sure, i do as well, as long as i'm not using headphones 10.30.50 # yeah 10.31.00 # well 10.31.13 # i still find replaygained files are still very loud 10.31.21 # i play them back on my H140 at 70-75 10.31.23 Join Moos [0] (n=c13354c1@labb.contactor.se) 10.33.20 # the originally proposed replaygain target was 6dB lower than the current one 10.36.32 Quit saa[b_r]ider (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.38.02 Quit Moos ("CGI:IRC") 10.38.07 # does anyone know how to implement a progress bar for downloading a file in VB? 10.39.00 # and you are asking VB questions in #rockbox because...? 10.39.23 # i thought someone might know, and i have nowhere else to ask 10.39.36 # no other conversation was happening 10.40.22 # I know nothing of VB, sorry 10.40.33 # ok 10.41.23 # im writing a program that downloads either the daily build or bleeding edge build to my iriver, unzips it (overwriting the old version) and deletes the zip file from the click of a button. 10.42.09 # and i thought a progress bar on the download stage would be cool, but i dont think i can work it 10.42.46 # http://www.google.se/search?q=visual+basic+progress+bar&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial 10.42.56 # shows looooooots of pages about it 10.43.26 # (sorry for the .se version, but I just did a quick copy and paste) 10.44.49 # no its not the progress bar, ive got one of those, but its implementing it for downloads which is tricky 10.47.11 # /mnt/sda1 && wget http://www.rockbox.org/`wget -O - http://www.rockbox.org/download | grep "/daily/h300/rockbox-h300-" | cut -f6 -d'"'` -O /tmp/daily.zip && cd /mnt/sda1 && unzip -oq /tmp/daily.zip && cd .. && umount sda1 10.47.37 Join einhirn [0] (i=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 10.47.39 # ugly, but it will automagically install the latest and greatest on your player :) And you get progress bars 10.48.15 # what the hell is that code for? 10.48.25 # It's a Unix shell script 10.48.30 # rightio 10.48.32 # You can run it with Cygwin. 10.48.40 # i dont have cygwin 10.48.44 # bash and wget make an awesome combo :) 10.48.51 # this is an easy to use EXE sitting on my root 10.49.01 # but only if you have the VB runtime installed 10.49.34 # people are more likely to have .net than a Unix client or cygwin... 10.50.44 # I guess the difference is, it took me 30 seconds to whip up and test my version :) and I know it will work on almost any linux/win-cygwin installation 10.51.09 # except that it assumes a mount point 10.51.16 # hey markun~ Are you seeing? 10.51.24 # that isn't universal 10.51.51 # mines user friendly though :P and has options 10.51.52 # Yes it does Bagder... but I'm sure the windows version is going to assume (or require selecting) a drive letter 10.52.06 # Mine has options too :p) just modify the line.. 10.52.11 # perplexity: yes, I don't have a problem with it I was jut pointing it out 10.52.17 # btw 10.52.21 # if its placed on your root, it automatically detects where to put it 10.52.26 # Membrillo: in my view, perplexity's version is more user friendly 10.52.31 # Anyway, its a moot point for me as I compile and install locally from CVS anyway. I just wanted to point out the power of the command line 10.52.38 # will rockbox reserve space for the voice file if it sees it, without regard to whether the option is switched on or no? 10.53.33 Join saa[b_r]ider [0] (n=saab_rid@61.49.147.148) 11.05.42 Join yngwi [0] (n=chatzill@chello080109107064.1.15.vie.surfer.at) 11.06.26 Quit yngwi (Client Quit) 11.07.59 Quit Sando ("changing servers") 11.10.37 Quit saa[b_r]ider (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.10.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.17.39 Quit saab_rider (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.19.16 # Ahh.. can access the Quick screen by pressing Navi once to get to the file browser, then holding A-B to get to the quick screen 11.32.47 # Err.. I made a very simple alteration to apps/gwps.c to enable the quick screen on the H300 and it works perfectly.. have I done something totaly naive ? 11.32.55 # -#if (CONFIG_KEYPAD == RECORDER_PAD) || (CONFIG_KEYPAD == IRIVER_H100_PAD) 11.32.55 # +#if (CONFIG_KEYPAD == RECORDER_PAD) || (CONFIG_KEYPAD == IRIVER_H100_PAD) || (CONFIG_KEYPAD == IRIVER_H300_PAD) 11.34.20 # :) 11.34.32 # o-o 11.34.54 Join Polo_o [0] (n=polo_o@82-69-160-166.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) 11.36.05 # Hi HCl! 11.36.22 # perplexity: No, that seems the right fix. 11.36.47 # As far as I know, the key mappings for the H300 and H100 are identical 11.36.59 # They are, I cheked that prior to enabling it 11.37.06 # http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1375178&group_id=44306&atid=439120 11.37.19 # Took me longer to generate and upload the patch than it did to edit the file :) 11.38.15 # Yep, a patch is probably overkill. 11.38.17 # lunch time! 11.38.18 Join saabrider [0] (n=saab_rid@61.49.147.148) 11.38.18 Nick saabrider is now known as saa[b_r]ider (n=saab_rid@61.49.147.148) 11.38.27 # grrrr. still waiting for mine to arrive 11.42.27 # perplexity: I don't think you uploaded the patch file correctly - I can't see a download link on that page. 11.42.35 # But don't worry about it - I'm about to commit that fix. 11.42.49 # Committed. 11.42.58 # probably not.. it also appears I was nt logged in when I created the patch in any case.. thanks :) 11.44.08 # It's soooo much easier to try out new changes now USB mode is working.. Almost makes on-the-target debugging doable 11.44.22 # hm, could someone with cvs access add the following line to firmware/export/config-h300.h : 11.44.27 # CONFIG_LED LED_VIRTUAL 11.44.43 # erm, #define CONFIG_LED LED_VIRTUAL 11.45.26 # * amiconn wonders about the bookmark.c change 11.46.05 # markun: Does it mean that the separate confirmation strings are no longer needed? 11.46.24 # If so, the #ifdef could go away, and the lang strings could be deprecated 11.47.03 # It was a suggestion by FireFly because of the new gui code. I didn't take a good look at the code. 11.49.12 # Bagder: You deleted a forum message which looked like gibberish. It didn't look like gibberish here, it was korean. 11.49.23 # yes, it was Jungti1234 11.49.32 # <_FireFly_> amiconn the two lang string are needed. the problem was that these two string are already displayed in the gui_yesno_draw fn yesno.c:~24 11.49.36 # I called it gibberish on purpose 11.49.47 # and it didn't appear as korean to me 11.49.48 # Anyone called me.. 11.50.05 # _FireFly_: Ah, okay 11.50.15 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.50.21 # most likely because I don't have any korean fonts 11.50.30 # or something 11.50.35 # hmm.. 11.50.36 # Still, if gui_yesno adds them, the same simplification can be applied to the player build, and the #ifdef can go away 11.52.35 # Bagder: Hmm. I'm using Firefox 1.07 on german windows, and it clearly appeared as korean here (though I don't understand korean at all). My interpretation was that Jungti1234 posted in korean on purpose, judging from the thread topic... 11.53.12 # yes, I scared him. 11.53.13 # amiconn: the fonts are bundled with firefox, yes I know it was on purpose 11.53.17 # are not 11.53.38 # I still don't like seeing the forum getting more and more non-english posts 11.53.49 # its enough with the korean and russian already used 11.54.33 # and on my screen it *was* total gibberish 11.54.39 # <_FireFly_> amiconn do you mean in bookmark.c ?? 11.55.04 # lunch! 11.55.42 # _FireFly_: Yes 11.55.57 Join criis [0] (n=criis@hypnos.adm.ku.dk) 11.56.01 # I was going to scare him only.. 11.56.17 # <_FireFly_> amiconn then we can't simplified because the player has an additional string str(LANG_RESUME_CONFIRM_PLAYER) 11.56.46 # Didn't try to look to other people. 11.57.04 # markun: u there? 11.57.38 Join San [0] (n=Test@213-202-139-44.bas502.dsl.esat.net) 11.58.49 # _FireFly_: Well, I need to check this, but it seems to me that this second string doesn't contain anything special. Afaiu, bookmark.c had its own confirm/cancel strings before gui_yesno was introduced, but now uses gui_yesno which uses standard strings 11.59.00 Join lostlogicx [0] (n=lostlogi@node-4024215a.mdw.onnet.us.uu.net) 11.59.24 # I love it that I can stop my player mid-song, boot the original iriver fw and watch some southpark, then boot back into rockbox for an instant resume where I left off.. that is soo cool for travelling 11.59.31 # LinusN: yes 11.59.58 # <_FireFly_> amiconn if this string is depricated then is the #ifdef also depricated :) 12.00.02 # i just checked the lcd_getstringsize change you made in mpeg.c 12.00.28 # it's funny that those have been around for so long without us noticing :-) 12.00.35 # They didn't 12.00.49 # There were introduced with unicode 12.00.55 # really 12.00.56 # ? 12.01.03 # They even make sense 12.01.05 # If you search for getstringsize there are a lot of strange things. 12.01.25 # LinusN: It's used to precache the glyphs. I should have added a comment. 12.01.27 # why do they make sense? 12.01.32 # They are just for caching the needed glpyhs for the tags, to avoid intermediate spinups 12.01.33 #