--- Log for 18.12.105 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 8 hours and 17 minutes ago 00.02.36 # I can't believe it takes over 6 megs 00.02.37 # petur: sure, it's better than nothing 00.02.55 # ;) 00.03.24 # ah well.. goodnight 00.03.37 Quit petur ("here today, gone tomorrow") 00.03.55 Join Hooligan [0] (i=Hooligan@Node55-61-52-66.1dial.com) 00.04.02 # ok my bad I reserved to much static ram 00.08.53 # So I'm finally getting around to learning C. Go me, maybe I can do something useful one day. 00.09.09 Join frederic_ [0] (n=chatzill@i577B9F0F.versanet.de) 00.09.21 # good good 00.11.51 Quit frederic_ (Client Quit) 00.12.10 Quit Musicmad (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.23.52 # * nathanh kicks rockbox 00.23.57 # do what i want! not what i say 00.24.03 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.24.36 # No! 00.24.47 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 00.25.28 # LinusN: I am probably not changing the code variable 00.25.30 Quit DrumRBoy320|away (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.25.44 # mirak: which file did you change? 00.25.50 # the amount I set for PLUGIN_BUFFER_SIZE 0xb00000 00.26.06 # :) 00.26.22 # it must be another variable because that's already really to much 00.26.25 Quit akaidiota (Connection timed out) 00.27.09 # it talks about PLUGIN_RAM wich is in plugin.lds, but I don't understand that code part 00.27.59 # as far as I understand I can't just increase that value without reducing something else 00.28.22 # or not ... 00.30.06 # LinusN: any idea ? 00.31.37 # which file did you change? 00.32.08 Join San [0] (n=test@213-202-160-179.bas503.dsl.esat.net) 00.32.11 # config-h300.h LinusN 00.32.27 # should be correct 00.32.29 # I reduced my static buffers drastically and I can compile 00.32.50 # but I am still interested in having more room to try some stuff 00.32.53 # mirak: you should check the map file 00.33.11 # what file in the source is the display menu? 00.34.32 Quit actionshrimp ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") 00.34.32 # LinusN: what file is it ? 00.34.51 # mirak: rockbox.map 00.35.08 Join actionshrimp [0] (n=NNSCRIPT@host86-144-9-21.range86-144.btcentralplus.com) 00.38.39 # if I wanted to add another menu, where would I add it? Main_menu.c? 00.38.49 # Do we have any targets where the amount of RAM is detected at runtime? 00.43.09 # linuxstb: yo, tested my commits? 00.43.43 # No, not yet. I've been busy with the video. The bootloader works (with LCD display), but Rockbox itself isn't starting. 00.43.55 # The LCD doesn't seem slow to me. 00.44.32 # The ATA driver works - rockbox.ipod is loaded and the correct checksum is calculated. 00.44.40 # The backlight is the same as the nano, and that works fine. 00.45.30 # I'll try your button commit on my ipod now. 00.47.53 # like it doesn't seem slow at all? 00.48.44 # 'cause slowcoder mentions he thinks his hardware is glitchy... 00.49.19 # It's hard to tell, but at least the bootloader seems to display as quickly as it does on my own ipod. 00.49.22 Join lamed [0] (n=55407459@labb.contactor.se) 00.50.32 # http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5863 00.50.51 # this file is weird it auto includes itself I don't know why 00.50.52 # is the optical out controlled directly by the cpu or by the uda? 00.51.23 # the compiler says that memset is undefined. problem is that there is no memset in that c file 00.55.04 # gcc may decide to use memset at its leisure, i believe 00.55.12 # you see there's a large array initalised to 0 there 00.55.21 # gcc might be using memset for that 00.55.42 # i don't know how to fix that 00.56.19 # where do you see that array ? 00.56.20 # if i were to optimise that myself, i'd use another approach, though 00.56.26 # mirak: it's called sums 00.56.38 # in FUNC_H 00.56.43 # it's in the first for loop 00.57.08 # int32_t Sums[SIZE] = { 0 }; 00.57.14 # yes 00.57.17 # that's the one 00.57.25 Quit Hooligan () 00.57.37 # what's UMS? 00.57.40 # i remember amiconn mentioning that gcc assumes memcpy, memset, memmove and memchr are always available 00.57.45 # mmm all the fields are written 00.58.05 # lamed: usb mass storage 00.58.22 # ah. 00.59.36 # now i got could rockbox support ums and playing at the same tim 00.59.42 # on some platforms, yes 00.59.43 # like ipod 00.59.57 # it also could on h1x0 and h3x0, but it would be very impractical 01.00.12 # why? because ipod's can still access the h.d? 01.00.21 # ipod has software usb controls, as far as i know 01.00.31 # iriver players have to give up hd access when connected to usb 01.00.42 # the cpu _could_ continue to play music, but when the file buffer is empty, it would just stop 01.01.53 # could an h1x0 be used as a host, disregarding the fact it can't produce the nececcery voltage? 01.02.49 # no 01.02.54 # or what do you mean? 01.03.08 # the only thing h1x0 can be used for in an usb context, is as a hd slave 01.03.20 # nothing else is possible 01.03.48 # to be more specific, any way of using the player as a host, to transfer 32 mb worth of files to the ram, that will be transfered to the h.d after usb sync is lost 01.04.27 # if you're talking usb and h1x0 and h3x0, it can do nothing than pretend it's a hard drive 01.04.29 # lostlogic, are you here? 01.05.11 # the processor is never involved in the usb dealings after an usb connection with a pc has been established 01.05.12 # yes, h1x0, why is that? (what prevants it from being used as i described?) 01.05.24 # ah 01.05.32 # preglow: you were right 01.05.39 # a gateway chip takes over and translates from usb -> ata messages 01.06.00 # and this is good, it makes our job very easy 01.06.07 # hehe 01.06.19 # making an usb stack is not very fun 01.06.26 # and god knows what we'll do with ipod 01.06.51 # haven't ipodlinux already had to do that? 01.06.54 # mirak: yes, i supposed so 01.07.09 # lamed: when you plug usb, they just ask if you want to reboot 01.07.13 # lamed: so you can boot to disk mode 01.07.45 # reverse engineering that would be seriously boring 01.07.47 # and hard 01.07.52 # so i understand them perfectly 01.08.14 # preglow: would it be possible to have UMS + charging at same time ? 01.08.30 # platform? 01.08.34 # H300 01.08.45 # ==the usb mode is simpler because it only transfers usb to ata messages..? 01.08.53 # sure, i can't imagine why that shouldn't be possible 01.09.11 # preglow: http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Standards.html 01.09.19 # preglow: I mean charging from usb 01.09.31 # mirak: don't we have ums&charging at the same time? what about the syncharge cables? 01.09.39 # amiconn: wha? 01.09.42 # Towards the bottom: "Most of the compiler support routines used by GCC are present in libgcc, but there are a few exceptions. GCC requires the freestanding environment provide memcpy, memmove, memset and memcmp." 01.09.45 # lamed: what's that ? 01.09.46 # mirak: i know 01.09.54 # yes 01.09.55 # http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=32898 01.10.00 # you've mentioned it before, so i knew it 01.10.06 # preglow: I've only tested quickly, but your commit seems fine. Nice work :) 01.10.20 # goodie 01.10.25 # wheel handling could use more work 01.10.29 # i just commited as is for simplicity 01.10.35 # plus, it works fine enough for me 01.10.35 # a good opportunity to show off my mod :)))) 01.10.59 Join Rincewind [0] (i=Miranda@A376e.a.pppool.de) 01.11.22 # lamed: I have seen them on some online store 01.11.41 # lamed: if it can cost nothing that's even better :) 01.12.04 Quit DJDD_ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 01.12.30 # 920020 2005-12-18 01:06 xvid_decraw.elf 01.12.50 # I finally managed to compile :D 01.12.51 # mirak: I always syncharge now... it's really awsome. I don't have to carry anything else then the player, headphones & the usbcable. I really most change the battery though. 01.13.19 # most=must 01.15.01 # mirak: haha, now for making it work 01.15.16 # preglow: ==the usb mode is simpler because it only transfers usb to ata messages..? 01.15.22 # lamed: what, yes 01.15.28 # lamed: because it's handled in hardware 01.15.54 # lamed: the only thing the cpu needs to do, and indeed, _can_ do, is tell the gateway it can take control of the hd 01.16.28 # thank you. it's nice to ask you qustions. you always know the answer and you don't spare the details! 01.16.35 # haha 01.16.43 # no problem 01.16.52 # though i can't say i always know the answers.. 01.17.34 # but i suppose i need to get going soon 01.17.48 # preglow: only when it comes to the api. you really know shit about that. 01.17.53 # :p 01.18.23 # or the gui... whatever 01.18.31 # gui i know nothing about, i'll give you that 01.18.36 # i know nothing about large parts of rockbox 01.18.43 # ;) 01.18.44 # lamed: "I guess iRiver had a good reason why not making their original cable charge..." 01.18.53 # i learn new stuff from the ipod porting, though 01.19.01 # lamed: lol, you needed to fry a motherboard to learn that 01.19.19 # lamed: it maybe draws to much power from usb 01.20.36 # is it just me, or do optical cables break easily?? 01.20.42 # mirak: just make sure you connect the dc jack before the usb sync jack. and don't pull off or insert back the dc jack while it syncronize. and usb2 inteface seems more stable. and I haven't fried the mobo it's only two usb1 jacks that died... on an oldish P3 850 mhz 01.21.16 # preglow: only if you are off to breaking some optical cables. 01.21.28 # lamed: ok. I fried a motherboard once. 01.21.36 # i've had two optical cables here that suddenly stopped working 01.21.36 # it was horrible 01.21.39 # and i'm real gentle with them 01.21.54 # mirak: what have you done? 01.22.04 # a big white smoke cloud got out of the tower 01.22.25 # lamed: my antec power supply was dying 01.22.46 # preglow: hi, same here lots of opticals cables dead during those few last years 01.22.50 # and in it's death it over powered the motherboard 01.23.00 # i'm not too fond of digital audio 01.23.01 # some condensator melted on the motherboard 01.23.24 # aren't those things supposed to have a fuse...? 01.23.29 # only good thing about digital audio is adat 01.23.48 # which at least helps on the cable clutter 01.25.08 # mirak: I can only recommand you of using the usbsyncharge mod. No suddon motherboard death is upon. 01.25.32 # what's adat? 01.26.20 # lamed practises his italian mobster lingo 01.28.11 # adat = eight channels of audio in one cable 01.28.14 # optical cable :/ 01.28.23 # preglow: is the audio compressed ? 01.28.35 # no 01.29.20 Quit ender` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.34.12 # lostlogic: i'll be looking at your profiling patch tomorrow 01.34.22 # I'm 12% off the ubuntu disk image download. this l00ks like the ticket to LinuX for me :) I _can_ install wine on it... right? 01.36.29 # yes 01.37.47 Quit DangerousDan ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 01.38.12 # really looking forward for it... I moved to firefox a while ago... and actually, I had the "internet explorer" icon link to firefox so my family stops using i.e... 01.38.47 # i use ubuntu on desktop, it's pretty nice 01.44.13 Join qwisp11 [0] (n=arnott_c@cpc1-oxfd4-4-0-cust172.oxfd.cable.ntl.com) 01.44.27 # preglow: just wondering: age/location/realname? 01.44.35 # 24/norway/thom johansen 01.44.39 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.45.10 # what do you do for living? 01.45.27 # programming, funnily enough 01.45.35 # lamed: that's a bit inquisitive 01.45.41 # qwisp11: i don't mind 01.45.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.46.51 # anyone who cares to search the net will find out anyway 01.47.09 # qwisp11: he might have answer in a private message :) and you can always turn your screen the other way :D 01.48.04 Join aegray_ [0] (n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com) 01.48.14 # but anywhoots, i've gotta go 01.48.15 # preglow: that's what I say... that's why I don't mind adv. my email address. it's well-spamed anyways 01.48.16 # later 01.48.17 # I'm not worried as such. But there are dodgy people on the net. No offence meant. 01.48.22 # aegray_: welcome! 01.48.27 # preglow: quick q before you go? 01.48.31 # okies 01.48.43 # I have a few questions about the tag-database (noob-questions). Is one of you willing to answer me? 01.48.53 # Rincewind: just ask and you'll see 01.48.53 # erm 01.48.54 # nm 01.48.54 # is the simulator broken ? 01.48.59 # i'll figure it out 01.49.00 # hehe 01.49.13 # Rincewind: nice name :) 01.49.15 # mirak: doesn't look like it 01.49.17 # ok, one: is the tag-database working well? 01.49.27 # Rincewind: it might be, depends on your luck 01.49.36 # but ok, i'm out, later all 01.49.47 # qwisp11, you know discworld? 01.50.02 # yeah 01.50.20 # I've only read about 12 of the books though 01.50.43 # what has "luck" to do with the tag-database? 01.50.59 # I've read nearly all of them 01.51.06 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.51.31 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB59C16.ipt.aol.com) 01.52.14 # my second question is: does the database provide other useful features apart from tag-browsing yet? 01.52.57 # Rincewind: luck has to do with it being in development and incomplete 01.53.24 # preglow: for x11 ? 01.53.39 # there seem to be at least two wiki-pages about it, I can't figure out which one has the right information 01.53.53 # http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5864 01.56.18 # the wikipage "databasev2" was last updated in september... 01.56.31 Join DrumRBoy320|away [0] (n=Drumrboy@ool-44c20ff1.dyn.optonline.net) 01.58.08 # the downloads have dates from january, I doubt that the database works with a recent version of rockbox 01.59.31 Join lee_ [0] (n=lee@70-58-156-201.eugn.qwest.net) 01.59.33 # apparently it's been stagnant for a while. the guy who was working on it dropped out of existence, and no-one's picked up the pieces yet 01.59.39 Join Rincewind_12 [0] (i=Miranda@D6b02.d.pppool.de) 01.59.49 Nick lee_ is now known as bagawk_ (n=lee@70-58-156-201.eugn.qwest.net) 02.01.12 Quit lamed ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.01.35 Quit bagawk (Nick collision from services.) 02.01.46 Nick bagawk_ is now known as bagawk (n=lee@70-58-156-201.eugn.qwest.net) 02.03.06 Join DJDD_ [0] (n=DJDD@220-245-186-182.static.tpgi.com.au) 02.03.44 Join paugh [0] (n=kickback@2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:8000:0:3e03:6822) 02.03.54 # I have to go 02.04.15 # cu 02.04.33 # I'm willing to help with rockboy if anyone will give me guidence with it. (My programing knollege is tiny bits of visual basic and html :p) 02.04.36 Quit Rincewind_12 (Client Quit) 02.06.25 # heh. building an emulator on an embedded system is a few steps above VB. html is just a markup language, it doesn't count :) 02.06.40 # I know that's where my problem is :p 02.06.48 # your first step would want to be to buy/borrow a book about C programming 02.07.09 # It'll go on my christmas list 02.07.19 # ashridah: you're building an emulator for which arch? 02.08.25 # aegray_: i'm not building one for any arch, but rockboy is emulating a gameboy's processor (forget which), and runs on m68k-coldfire 02.08.33 # ah ok 02.08.47 # is that gnuboy based or from scratch? 02.08.53 # gnuboy port 02.08.55 # * ashridah nods 02.09.01 # cool 02.09.46 # qwisp11: you'll need to learn the ins and outs of m68k assembly and probably Z80 assembly and gameboy specifics 02.10.49 # read through gnuboy source - it'll help you learn - especially the cpu and emu 02.10.58 # ok 02.11.07 # I have the source of several emus already 02.11.24 # hahaha. isn't gnuboy's source horribly uncommented? :) 02.11.24 # but i opened them and then just scrolled through some files and shut them again 02.11.32 # ashridah: that's what makes it fun :) 02.11.42 Quit Moos ("Happy Birthday Rockbox") 02.12.28 # hah 02.13.44 # * ashridah isn't sure what he can recommend in the way of books to read about emulation or embedded stuff, been a long time since he learned it 02.13.50 # and i was only using the 68hc11 02.13.59 # (and 8086 assembly) 02.15.29 # there's plenty of pages about on gameboy programming 02.17.51 # I'll have a look thanks 02.17.56 Quit Rincewind (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.41.08 # I've found a very nice book on it. I'll read through that and come back if it hasn't put me off :) 02.41.24 # qwisp11: Which player do you have? H300? 02.43.48 # void* (*plugin_get_audio_buffer)(int* buffer_size); 02.43.58 # why is there a buffer_size parameter ? 02.44.31 # does it have some dynamic mem handling behind ? 02.44.33 # It's used to return the size of the buffer. 02.44.40 # oh ok 02.47.33 Part LinusN 02.47.34 # in C if I don't need the value inside the return parameter 02.47.47 # not return, the function parameter 02.48.03 # mmm can I not declare a variable ? 02.48.20 # No, you have to declare a variable. 02.48.31 # Why would you want to ignore that return value? It's important. 02.48.51 # : yeah h300 sorry for the slow response 02.49.14 Join TCK- [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-225-59.dsl.pipex.com) 02.49.37 # linuxstb: not for the dirt stuf I did 02.49.42 # well I will use it 02.49.47 Quit Kohlrabi ("Leaving") 02.50.07 # qwisp11: no problem. In which case, a first thing to do with Rockboy could be to restore the colour support. AFAIK, that code was removed from gnuboy when it was ported to the h1x0 02.50.22 # But that could have the side-effect of making it even slower... 02.50.48 # Will it be possible to make it run faster? 02.51.28 # what is the size of an int ? 02.51.31 # in bits 02.51.41 # sizeof(int)*8 02.51.53 # qwisp11: I'm sure it can be. It hasn't been worked on for a long time, and our knowledge of the coldfire has improved a lot since then. 02.52.06 # Also, Rockboy doesn't make full use of the fast internal ram (IRAM) 02.52.26 # ok thanks 02.52.40 # You should talk to lostlogic and try and run his profiling code on Rockboy to see where the bottlenecks are. 02.53.00 # any idea when s/he is on usually? 02.53.09 # * lostlogic hides under the table. I just posted a new version of the profiling patch to the tracker today. 02.53.12 # Read up about 4 lines... 02.53.13 # oh 02.53.18 # :p 02.53.52 # the patch exports it in the plugin API and makes it available to plugins through a header file, should be pretty easy to enable for a plugin... in theory. 02.54.31 Join lamed [0] (n=5541763d@labb.contactor.se) 02.54.36 Part lamed 02.56.12 # have I mentioned that GCC's coldfire support is pretty pathetic? it is. 02.58.58 # where can I get the code from? 02.59.08 # lostlogic: I think we've realised that by now. 02.59.28 # Have you been examining the compiled code? 02.59.30 # qwisp11: sourceforge patchtracker... it's linked from the rockbox patches page on rockbox.org 03.00.07 # linuxstb: yeah, extensively, just optimizing the ++ and -- operations in Tremor with inline assembly gave me a 2.4* improvement in the most called function. 03.00.18 # 2.4% 03.00.30 # Which version of gcc are you using? 03.00.33 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.00.44 # 345 03.01.30 # I had 402 for a while, but the code was slower, and I didn't feel like analyzing why so I went back to 345 03.10.05 # linuxstb: I got that error when trying to build th simulator http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5864 03.10.26 # any idea of what's happening ? 03.12.25 # Did you change anything in Rockbox apart from your plugin? 03.12.42 # hem 03.12.53 # I added a method to the plugin api 03.12.59 # vsnprintf 03.13.07 # That shouldn't make any difference. 03.14.04 # I will try with another cvs rep 03.14.15 # I was about to suggest that. 03.15.18 # But you know that the x11 sim doesn't work properly for the h300? Only the win32 sim works for the colour targets. 03.17.06 # my plugin output nothing 03.17.17 # I just use a log file for now 03.17.20 # as output 03.17.27 # plus the extracted images 03.19.41 # it's funny to call this devices emebeded devices 03.20.00 # when our old atari or amiga were just 8mhz and 1 meg of ram 03.20.16 # is anybody working on the h300 x11 sim? i cant run the windows sim (not even in wine) 03.20.40 # nathanh: what's the problem ? 03.20.46 # no intel 03.23.15 # I'm off I need some sleep 03.23.30 Quit qwisp11 () 03.24.49 # nathanh: I think someone is working on a sdl port of the sim 03.25.02 # beaut 03.25.25 # The idea is that we will then just have a single sim that will work everywhere SDL works. 03.25.44 # is someone actually working on it? i remember it being discussed, and i vaguely recall Bagder suggesting he might do it... 03.25.49 # yeah, i know about sdl, its a good idea to use sdl instead of separate win32/x11 ports 03.26.06 # * ashridah nods 03.26.20 # Unless I dreamt it, a stranger came to IRC a couple of days ago and said that he/she had been working on it. 03.26.27 # ah 03.26.42 # entirely possible, i'm not on irc as much as i was last month 03.26.50 # See here: http://www.rockbox.org/irc/rockbox-20051216.txt (at 20:24.55) 03.27.43 # hrm, no-one told him to post it to the patch tracker? 03.28.08 # hope he shows up again 03.28.35 # linuxstb: this fails with a clean install 03.28.59 # effing awesome 03.29.33 # i have display lists now working for background images, peak meters, progress bars, bitmaps, conditional bitmaps, left texts, right texts and center texts 03.30.02 Nick ashridah is now known as Lost-ash (n=ashridah@67.106.77.212.ptr.us.xo.net) 03.30.03 # cricket time 03.30.04 # ashridah: Yep, it seems we all missed that visit. He did talk to Bagder on 20051215 (about 9am) - that's the conversation I remember. 03.33.08 Join San [0] (n=test@A-106-15.cust.iol.ie) 03.38.47 # how do we acces to the general menu in rockbox now ? 03.40.11 Join webguest66 [0] (n=3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) 03.40.37 # nathanh: have you tried running the w32 sim under wine under qemu? (yes, I know... but it might work!) 03.40.37 # nathanh: what did you think of my latest batch of whining on your patchtracker thread? 03.44.45 Quit DJDD_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.45.29 Quit actionshrimp ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") 03.45.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.46.12 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@p54BD69B0.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.51.42 # lostlogic: i have a question: i have installed your hd-led in wps patch. when i put the tag that shows conditional images on a seperate line, the image doesn't get regularily updated (only on trackchanges) but when i put it on the same line as the remaining time, the image gets updated correctly. is this normal, or am i doing somethin wrong? 03.53.41 # webguest: i know of that problem and how to solve it 03.53.55 # hehe, I didn't think it was in my patch... mine was tooooo simple 03.54.25 Join Mongey| [0] (n=mongeyc@83-70-61-84.b-ras1.dbn.dublin.eircom.net) 03.54.37 # webguest: theres a bug in gui_refresh that means certain lines are not processed on every frame, even if theres an image on that line that must be updated every frame 03.54.57 # webguest: its because images and text are treated separately 03.55.17 # even thought this is for rockbox ill ask anyway 03.55.19 # webguest: the workaround is to stick the %xd or %ld tags on the same line as a text item that updates every frame, like %pv 03.55.57 # is it alright to post my pc specs? 03.56.06 # thats what i did to solve it, i was just wondering why this happens 03.56.16 # cause i want to ask a few questions 03.56.17 # its because theres an array of lines, 1 for each text line on the screen 03.56.32 # the refresh loop runs through the array but only displays some of the lines, depending on the status of the *flags 03.56.53 # the problem is that if an image is on the same y-coord as a line thats not due for refresh, it can get erased 03.56.56 # but not redrawn 03.57.05 # because the text line erases the whole line, including the image 03.57.09 # well 03.57.28 # Mongey|: just ask, and use less lines. 03.57.30 # by sticking the %xd or %ld on the same line, in the .wps file, as the tag, it means the image will get updated 03.57.36 # Mongey|: probably won't hurt, since it pretty quiet.. but be brief 03.57.50 # kk 03.58.07 # should i be looking for a new motherboard, cpu, and graphics card? (specs to cmein a sec) 03.58.26 # CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2000+ (Thoroughbred) , 1.67 GHz 03.58.37 # Video: Sharp LL-T17A3-B on nVidia GeForce4 MX 440 03.59.00 DBUG Enqueued KICK Mongey| 03.59.00 # 3Mainboard: MS-6712 03.59.01 # but why do the other conditional images that are on the same line (on the display) work? 03.59.07 # 3Mainboard Manufacturer: MSI 03.59.08 # because conditionals are drawn every frame 03.59.25 # the fix is pretty simple 03.59.36 # theres a line in gui_wps_refresh that draws an inverted solid rectangle from x=0 to x=LCD_WIDTH 03.59.45 # you change that to only draw from left_pos to left_pos+string_width 03.59.49 # or center_pos, or right_pos 04.00.00 # Mongey|: no one will be able to give an answer to that but yourself. Does it do the things you want it to? If not, go upgrade. If it does, don't waste your money just to get something more flashy. 04.00.26 Quit ehntoo (Remote closed the connection) 04.00.49 # webguest66; i want it to be able to play games like doom3, some decent games 04.01.08 # the thing is i dont have alot of munny 04.01.11 # Mongey|: graphics first. 04.01.29 # webguest: this line here -> display->fillrect(0, ypos, display->width, string_height); 04.01.41 # nathanh: What platform are you on? 04.01.43 # that thing erases the entire line, including any images that have already been drawn 04.01.51 # linuxppc, powerbook 04.02.05 # nathanh: Tried wine under qemu? 04.02.19 # lostlogic; can you recommend any(economically efficent) 04.02.24 # not gonna try, id have to setup a win32 dev environment to rebuild the rockboxui each time 04.02.26 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.02.26 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@p54BD69B0.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.02.31 # Mongey|: not a clue, don't play modern games any more ;) 04.02.42 # :o 04.02.52 # damn 04.03.28 # mongey: fast pcs are a waste of money, we all buy them when we're young, then we realise what a waste of money it is and we stop 04.03.38 # mongey: i spent $1000s on a 486 back in the day, waste of money 04.03.49 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 04.03.49 # * Mongey| = 14 04.04.03 # lol 04.04.07 # nathanh: if you're in Debian at least it's as easy as apt-get install mingw32.. I'm guessing it's as easy for other archs... assuming mingw32 is available for ppc.. it should be 04.04.14 # nathanh: I spent 4k on my first computer at 18... alienware's then topof the line 04.04.26 # lostlogic: would you do it again? 04.04.32 # nathanh; im not looking to spend over 400 04.04.38 # nathanh: no, I haven't spent that much on computer parts total since, I dont' think :-P 04.04.53 # same, last pc upgrade i bought was $100, that'll do me for another 12 months 04.05.00 # :o alienware goes upto 30,000 04.05.01 # bought some ram 04.05.09 # You can get a decent computer so cheap by now 04.05.16 *** Alert Mode level 1 04.05.16 # 3RAM: Used: 368/512MB 04.05.31 # Think my first one was about $1500 for a p133 04.05.39 # Mongey|: that was 5 or 6 years ago. 04.05.49 # i think this is a gateway 500 04.06.04 # mongey: save your money, spend it on wine and women 04.06.21 # lol 04.06.56 # good advice. 04.07.09 # * Mongey| is ironman doesnt need a woman cause he's got his right hand 04.07.35 Quit dpassen1 () 04.07.59 # lol 04.08.07 # give it a couple years ;) 04.08.16 # a friend was singing that today 04.09.07 # ive got like 200 euro and then my parents are giving me the rest for an upgrade 04.10.19 # maybe a nother HD 04.10.24 *** Alert Mode level 2 04.10.24 # 3HD: [C:] 3.67/25.60 GB [D:] 9.20/9.31 GB [E:] 5.45/5.68 GB 04.10.31 # aye, you need more hdd 04.10.46 # I'd jump into some gaming channel. They're sure to know more about this stuff than we do here, it seems 04.11.00 # webguest66; do you know any? 04.11.20 # I'm afraid not 04.11.25 # damn 04.11.39 Quit webguest66 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 04.11.57 Join webguest66 [0] (n=3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) 04.12.21 # anyone know any gaming channels? 04.12.34 # anyone support Celtic? 04.13.56 # oh 04.13.56 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.14.19 # nathanh; do you know any graphics card i should get 04.15.21 # mongey: i dont know anything about gaming pcs 04.15.32 # just that its a money sink 04.16.12 # Mongey|: did you try this line of questioning in #misticriver? I think they are more likely to be gamers than us. 04.16.34 # i did 04.17.09 Join San [0] (n=test@A-106-15.cust.iol.ie) 04.20.25 *** Alert Mode OFF 04.21.25 # hehhe 04.21.30 # anyone on linux 04.21.40 # most of us, probably... 04.21.44 # lol 04.22.28 # last month i was looking for a live cd of ubuntu and i downloaded what i thought was one 04.23.29 # http://photobucket.com/albums/c301/nhand42/?action=view¤t=dump_0001.jpg 04.23.53 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=paulthen@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 04.23.56 # but then i fecked everything up and installed it because it wasnt a live, erasing windows(instlling on the same partion) then i had to searche my house for 2 days start fot my xp disc 04.24.25 # finnaly removed ubuntu but grub messed up the bootloader 04.24.30 # Mongey|: but doesn't it warn you in large letters when it's going to do that? 04.24.46 # making me reinstall windows 04.24.48 # (hope you had backups :) ) 04.24.51 # :( even 04.24.53 # nathanh: looks terrible, but apparently it works? 04.24.55 # Lost-ash; have no idea 04.24.58 # :-( 04.25.01 # i think it looks nifty 04.25.13 # nice 04.25.27 # Having 4-colour bmp loader would be nifty 04.25.30 # nathanh: the speckled black and white background? 04.25.53 # lostlogic: the fact that theres a background at all :-) 04.26.07 # nathanh: of that I heartily approve. 04.26.40 # You did use jpg for a b&w picture - of that I don't approve. 04.26.47 # thats a .bmp file, not a .jpg 04.26.51 # Ah 04.26.54 # That's almost worse 04.26.57 # But not quite 04.27.03 # bmp is what screendump makes 04.27.13 # hrm, i uploaded .bmp, i think photobucket must have effed with it 04.27.24 # I didn't think anyone in their right mind would put bmps on the web 04.27.33 # oh please 04.27.44 # recompressing the bmp from a webdump is just stupid 04.27.57 # what? 04.27.59 # while I agree bmp's are not suited for the internet 04.28.08 # the image is so small anyway 04.28.34 # Some browsers can't even display them 04.28.42 # *screendump 04.28.58 # what browser would that be webguest66? 04.29.03 # ff 04.29.14 # really? 04.29.15 # haha 04.29.38 # seems to work fine here;) 04.30.09 # always tries to open them in gimp here for some reason 04.30.17 # That's because it is in fact a jpg 04.30.51 # I expect photobucket converts bmps to 0% compression jpegs or something like that 04.31.08 # To keep everyone's browser sane 04.31.55 # Why they don't convert to png is beyond me 04.32.14 # some old IE didnt do png 04.32.30 # IE <<<<< FF 04.32.33 # Well that's seriuosly old there 04.32.40 # Yeah, JPG and GIF are about the only two you can be reasonably sure will work anywhere. 04.33.09 # I'm willing to go off on a limb and bet that bmps are less supported than png 04.33.10 # I wonder what the internal web browser in AOL can show. Photobucket seems like the sort of place that would want AOL users to be at home as well. 04.33.37 # webguest66: BMPs have been supported in IE for a while, which by default makes them "more" supported because it's on every windows box out there, whether you want it or not. 04.34.13 # Not at all. 04.34.30 # What do you mean? 04.35.00 # I mean that the amount of users having an *OLD* IE without png support is - I'm guessing - lower than the amount having browsers with no BMP support 04.35.24 # What is that anyway, IE3? 4? 04.35.36 # I don't think many of those are still browsing the interwebnut 04.35.46 # You'd be surprised what you'll find people using 04.35.55 # Sure, but how many? 04.36.22 # * Paul_The_Nerd shrugs. 04.36.28 # * webguest66 googles. 04.36.49 # I'm not even sure 5.0 had PNG support 04.37.02 # I'm positive it did. 04.37.12 # Initially, or after patches? 04.37.23 # Note that I'm not talking about full support, just basic 04.37.41 # I'll get back to you on that 04.38.01 # From the first few stats I was able to dig up, IE4 usage is below even NetScape4 usage 04.38.06 # Which is saying something 04.38.08 # Yeah 04.38.49 # But if ie5 was released without png (which I don't think), I won't argue with you afterall 04.38.56 # * Paul_The_Nerd shrugs. 04.39.00 # It's not a big deal to me either way. 04.39.07 Join ehntoo [0] (n=ehntoo@24-177-166-0.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) 04.39.30 # Internet Explorer [Microsoft] (Win32, Solaris/X, HP-UX/X) - version 4.0b1 and later 04.39.35 # So there. 04.39.36 # Relating to image formats, I wonder if they H120/140 is going to ever feature 2bpp bitmaps in the WPS. 04.39.48 # IE4 was released with png support. 04.39.56 # Hrm. 04.39.57 # I think it's fair to say that by now, png is "fully supported" 04.40.08 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 04.40.12 # That's from libpng.org, so that's probably authoritative 04.40.16 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.40.17 # Probably 04.41.47 # hmph, bug in profile parsing java. preglow never got around to perlizing it and fixing my bugs. 04.42.19 # 2bpp bitmaps will probably come at some point, I'd guess 04.42.46 # im working on color bitmaps in wps 04.42.57 # Color bitmap doesn't do much for me. :-P 04.43.08 # it'll do grayscale too 04.59.44 # *sigh* the problem with discovering more new bugs is that my attempts to build up a library of profiling results keep getting foiled by them. 05.03.35 Part Mongey| 05.08.39 Quit RotAtoR ("Leaving") 05.10.49 Quit Paul_The_Nerd ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5.1 [Firefox 1.5/undefined]") 05.16.55 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.44.37 Join aegray__ [0] (n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com) 05.44.53 Nick paugh is now known as AliasCoffee (n=kickback@2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:8000:0:3e03:6822) 05.44.56 Quit aegray_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.45.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.06.45 Join MrShlee [0] (i=BIGKING@58-84-71-142.dial-lns4.sa.chariot.net.au) 06.08.34 # firstly. after uploading songs in usb mode.. the diskcache doesnt update so you need to reboot. secondly the Iriver boots into Recording mode when you turn it on. third when you goto radio without originally playing a mp3/ogg when you leave the radio - it seems to loop with a "playlist control file" error 06.08.34 Quit webguest66 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 06.12.33 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@58.77.81.144) 06.19.50 Quit TCK- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.24.31 Join Midgey34 [0] (n=Midgey34@c-24-11-55-125.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 06.31.08 Quit webguest23 ("CGI:IRC") 06.39.01 # hey 06.40.23 # hello~? 07.12.55 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=paulthen@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 07.14.13 # gah, I can't believe I'm rewriting C to teach GCC how to compile for the coldfire. 07.26.38 # Does no one exist? 07.27.10 # I have question. 07.27.40 # there are some assembly stuff he's trying to fix 07.32.12 # what's the difference between: 07.32.12 # a[i++]=t[j++]< and 07.32.12 DBUG Enqueued KICK lostlogic 07.32.12 # a[i]=t[j]< i++; j++; 07.32.48 # because I think that changing those put aliens in my ears instead of music. 07.33.56 # nvm, I a foo 07.35.30 # Today I wrote a for loop for($i=0;$i=var;$i++). It wasn't very effective. Be happy that your mistake isn't that bad. 07.35.35 # just a note: 1 != 0 07.35.49 # Paul_The_Nerd: :) 07.36.28 # I'm not really into this script anyway. I stronlgy suspect that I'm going to have to scrap the whole thing as soon as my partner gets back to me. 07.36.43 # damn those team projects. 07.36.55 # It's more of a "friend asking for help" sorta thing. 07.36.59 # ahh 07.37.01 # But it gave me an excuse to learn PHP. 07.37.12 # haven't found one of those yet. 07.37.54 # I don't even know if it's worth it. 07.38.11 # hehe, anything you can do in php you can do 12 ways in perl? :-D 07.38.25 # This would be so much better as something executed client side. 07.38.41 # *shudder* no ajax for me. 07.38.54 # I wonder. 07.39.16 # Well, the script takes about 2.5 seconds to execute (trimmed down from 30), but it's for an educational page, so potentially a class of 30-40 could be hitting it multiple times within a short period. 07.39.43 # Yesterday OGG Q10 of build that I make was played normally, but Q10 of Rockbox's build isn't played normally today. 07.40.01 # Why is it? 07.40.33 # someone committed something slow :-P 07.40.39 # It's cut continuously. 07.41.00 # that bad eh? 07.41.44 # I don't think anyone who's committed is around at the moment. 07.41.45 # Odd, it doesn't look like there's many changes that would relate to that. 07.41.56 # Like, 3/4 of the commits are plugin or iPod related. 07.42.13 # yeah, uda1380 change or file headbytes change are the only even _candidates_ 07.42.28 # THat's what I was thinking 07.44.24 Join Wraith [0] (n=Frequenc@c-66-56-68-115.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 07.44.30 # Hi everyone 07.45.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.47.11 # hi 07.48.15 # I have a question about loading the rockbox thing on my H320, does anyone think they could help me? 07.48.26 # Depends on the question. 07.48.28 # We can try 07.48.30 # okay. 07.49.08 # I was looking at the website and i couldn't find a guide that explained on how to load the latest version (that is safe) onto the H320 07.49.25 # Does anyone here think they could point me in the right direction? 07.49.34 # Have you installed the bootloader? 07.50.42 Nick Lost-ash is now known as ashridah (n=ashridah@67.106.77.212.ptr.us.xo.net) 07.50.49 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot <-- There's a tool on this page called fwpatcher.exe, you need to use that on a firmware upgrade from iRiver (it has a list of working firmwares at that page) 07.51.32 # the guide is way to advanced... download fwpatcher.exe download the firmware.. open fwpatcher.exe click patch select firmware 07.51.34 # the end. 07.51.41 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ManualRockboxInstall 07.51.57 # It's patched 07.52.07 # now what? load it onto the mp3 player? 07.52.28 # The rest of the instructions should be at that second link 07.52.29 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverInstall 07.52.40 # upload the new firmware and flash like you do normally 07.52.45 # yes 07.53.04 # "flash" means to "Upgrade Firmware" right? 07.53.14 # Yes sir. 07.53.19 # heh, not so good at technical terms... or any terms for that matter 07.54.10 # And that's all there is too it? 07.54.27 # that just installs the bootloader 07.54.40 # follow the rest of the instructions to install the actual rockbox software onto the player. 07.54.45 # ok 07.55.02 # where is the guide for that oen? 07.55.06 # one * 07.55.12 # I believe someone already linked it. 07.55.17 # kk 07.55.26 # Wraith: I believe someone already linked it. 07.55.28 # ah 07.55.32 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverInstall 07.55.55 # thankyou 07.56.20 # shoot, one of my 'teach gcc how to do its job' changes made it worse. 07.56.28 # there is no H320 version on the choices. 07.56.41 # nvm 07.56.44 # i found it. 07.57.16 # I have H320 too. 07.57.43 # uh wow, it looks way different. = ( 07.59.07 # flash it again? 07.59.18 # after i load rockbox on it? 07.59.33 # Wraith: no. 07.59.35 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-225-59.dsl.pipex.com) 07.59.46 # you can upgrade rockbox without flashing simply by uploading new software to the player. 08.00.10 # ohm woopsie. I flashed it after i unplugged it from my USB, is that bad? 08.00.33 # shouldn't matter, if I understand what you are saying correctly. 08.00.38 # kk 08.00.57 # Wraith you want the usb UNplugged and the wall power PLUGGED 08.01.02 # kk 08.01.07 # Wraith: http://cafe.naver.com/iriverh300/557 08.02.16 # ty 08.02.23 # Do you understand it? :P 08.02.50 # yea 08.03.16 # I think I've made 2 or 3% gain on Tremor by giving GCC coldfire programming lessons today. 08.03.19 # hehe 08.04.15 # ahh 08.04.20 # so many options 08.04.21 # lol 08.04.26 # i dont know what to do 08.05.29 # time to sleep and dream of m68k. 08.06.34 # Wraith. if your confused... just remember your going to die someday 08.06.39 Quit Paul_The_Nerd ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5.1 [Firefox 1.5/undefined]") 08.07.33 # once the thing has been flashed.. its going to shut down.. hold down the round button and the play 08.10.23 # its.... so..... beautiful 08.17.31 Part Midgey34 08.22.22 Join Lynx_ [0] (n=lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 08.22.28 Quit Lynx_awy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.22.41 Nick Lynx_ is now known as Lynx_awy (n=lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 08.22.55 Join DJDD_ [0] (n=DJDD@220-245-186-182.static.tpgi.com.au) 08.29.11 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.31.53 # Thanks for all the help yall... But i just got one more question. 08.32.19 # Is t possible to have all the same abilities but the GUI go back to the original? 08.32.23 # it* 08.35.18 Quit Wraith () 08.44.23 Join DJDD__ [0] (n=DJDD@220-245-186-182.static.tpgi.com.au) 08.50.54 Quit DJDD__ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 09.02.24 Quit DJDD_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.07.24 Join shido6 [0] (n=shido6@d221-68-216.commercial.cgocable.net) 09.07.26 Part shido6 09.19.03 Quit thegeek ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 09.24.14 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.24.15 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 09.25.49 # woot 09.25.57 # heh. cricket or rockbox? 09.26.06 # ham 09.26.10 # ooh. 09.26.10 # i love christmas, so much ham 09.26.16 # Cake or death? 09.26.18 # aren't you jumping the gun? :) 09.26.28 # it's never too early for ham 09.26.31 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 09.26.31 # * ashridah admits there will be ham on his pizza tonight 09.26.35 # word 09.27.06 # rockbox is pretty cool too, getting rockbox on the h340 was like christmas came early 09.27.06 # not really in a position to get ham yet, and since i'm helping out at a caravan park, we're facing a fairly busy christmas 09.27.16 # certainly beats anything else i could have gotten for christmas 09.28.19 # this is the longest i've been without a linux box handy :( 09.28.55 Quit t0mas (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.45.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.46.31 # damn iriver 09.53.33 Quit MrShlee ("Changed by popular Request - "I am the heart of your darkness, you stinking oompa-loompa morons!"") 09.56.17 # markun ? 10.00.44 # amiconn: He isn't at the house now. 10.07.52 Join San [0] (n=test@212.2.166.118) 10.16.55 Join petur [0] (i=petur@d54C1B62E.access.telenet.be) 10.26.10 # hahaha 10.26.11 # http://dnshop.daum.net/front/product/ProductDetail?szSearchKeyword=up3&PID=B365_UP3_1000_P&Sid=0101_S2080000_01_00 10.26.52 # $10!!! 10.28.27 Quit Jungti1234 ("bye") 10.44.01 Join Vladoman [0] (n=Vladoman@p54A7FC5C.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.51.35 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 10.51.40 Quit petur ("here today, gone tomorrow") 10.58.29 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@58.77.81.144) 10.59.07 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.11.06 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB5BF1F.ipt.aol.com) 11.15.20 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.21.31 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 11.26.32 # hey 11.37.28 Quit mirak (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.40.49 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-15-89.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) 11.45.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.47.24 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A45080.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.54.53 # http://dnshop.daum.net/front/product/ProductDetail?szSearchKeyword=up3&PID=B365_UP3_1000_P&Sid=0101_S2080000 11.54.57 # argh 11.55.05 # sorry about that! 11.57.20 Quit aegray__ () 12.00.45 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m196.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 12.05.43 Join perplexity [0] (n=joust@217.165.115.94) 12.07.18 Quit mirak ("Ex-Chat") 12.08.35 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-15-89.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) 12.08.43 Join djgalak_ [0] (n=chatzill@gre92-1-81-57-176-7.fbx.proxad.net) 12.09.10 Nick djgalak_ is now known as djgalak (n=chatzill@gre92-1-81-57-176-7.fbx.proxad.net) 12.10.06 Quit djgalak (Client Quit) 12.22.00 Join Lear [0] (n=chatzill@h184n5c1o285.bredband.skanova.com) 12.31.37 Quit ghode|afk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.33.54 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-129-077.pools.arcor-ip.net) 12.35.37 Join San [0] (n=test@212.2.167.245) 12.35.46 Join ghode|afk [0] (n=garudin@host-84-9-104-109.bulldogdsl.com) 12.37.03 # preglow: Are you around? 12.39.26 Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.39.46 # rb->plugin_get_audio_buffer(&static_malloc_buffer_size) 12.39.56 # so this method return me a pointer 12.40.07 # I use that as static_buffer base 12.40.14 # for my fake malloc 12.40.29 # do I miss something ? 12.40.45 # Yes. 12.40.53 # I mean, yes, your understanding is correct. 12.41.11 # I got a bad crash 12.41.17 Join Zak1392 [0] (n=zkeeping@CPE-144-137-199-238.sa.bigpond.net.au) 12.41.49 # You use something like "bufptr=rb->plugin_get_audio_buffer(&bufsize);" 12.42.02 Quit Zak1392 (Client Quit) 12.44.25 # yes 12.46.56 # Hmm, i just got an idea that maybe it could be possible to add a color display to the h140. At least those nokia displays should fit and those include a controller with simple protocol (http://forum.lcdinfo.com/viewtopic.php?p=3086). And the modules are pretty cheap :) 12.47.15 Quit nathanh (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.47.33 # that's weird now I got an illegal instruction even before 12.49.12 Join Membrillo [0] (n=sam_kill@CPE-144-131-86-7.nsw.bigpond.net.au) 12.49.16 # So the problem is unrelated to that? 12.51.19 # so i guess line in recording for the H3xx isnt implemented yet? 12.51.24 # seems it's unrelated 12.51.38 # seems rb->sleep(HZ*10); 12.51.42 # makes a crash 12.53.29 # no one knows about h300 line in? 12.53.56 # mirak: where are you calling that sleep from? 12.54.35 # from the main app 12.54.38 # the plugin 12.54.51 # ok, then the problem is probably before that call 12.55.23 # mirak: Can you post your whole "xvidplugin.c" file somewhere? 12.56.30 # ok 12.58.05 # http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5874 12.58.22 # I don't know why there is this crash now 12.58.26 # I will rebuild clea 12.58.27 # n 13.03.50 Quit linuxstb_ ("Leaving") 13.12.24 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@p54BD45DD.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.12.43 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 13.12.43 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@p54BD45DD.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.13.13 Quit AliasCoffee ("Leaving") 13.23.08 # Slasheri: Don't tell me that you are going to rip apart your iHP and put a colour display in it.... 13.23.27 # lol 13.23.59 # XavierGr: i think i could do it :) too attractive not to try at least.. 13.24.08 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 13.24.18 # Yes but you will have to preogram it. 13.24.21 # and the lcd dimensions seems to be almost perfect for the ihp 13.24.40 # and keep always a different lcd file in rockbox for your uses. 13.24.44 # yep, just a new driver. But there are already some example code how to do it 13.24.56 # that's true 13.25.24 Join Zak1392 [0] (n=zkeeping@CPE-144-137-199-238.sa.bigpond.net.au) 13.25.25 # But it is a very tempting idea indeed! 13.25.30 # :) 13.25.35 # hey guys 13.25.41 # hi 13.26.09 # is it possible to compile rocks without having to compile the whole thing? 13.26.14 # Slasheri: If you try this, please tell us how you did it, and take many many pictures of the process. 13.26.28 # XavierGr: yes, of course :) 13.26.44 # Zak1392: No. But if you compile once, then change a plugin, the next compile will only compile what has changed - i.e. your rock 13.26.54 # any hardware mod for the ticking H100 remotes? 13.26.58 # linuxstb: ok I needed to clean 13.27.18 Join DangerousDan [0] (n=Miranda@130.240.217.149) 13.27.21 # mirak: So does your plugin run now? 13.27.47 # not yet 13.27.51 # XavierGr: but currently i am working with the tagcache.. it should be ready soon for testing :) 13.28.21 # Just great! 13.28.31 # A fuzzy picture of Bejeweled running on the iPod Video: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/rockbox-ipodvideo.jpg 13.31.22 Quit Zak1392 () 13.31.22 # Wow.. that thing has a huge screen 13.32.31 # Yep, it's very nice. 13.33.32 # i got myself an ipod video for free last nice 13.33.37 # last week haha 13.33.42 # i was looking elsewhere and typing 13.33.48 # linuxstb: That is not our bejeweled, right? 13.34.17 # Of course - it's Rockbox. 13.34.35 # It has so nice colours? 13.34.44 # I thought it had generic coulours 13.35.11 # What do you mean? Bejeweled was updated recently to have those nice colour bitmaps. 13.35.13 # it looks nice on the h300 too 13.35.17 # very nice.. 13.35.29 # amiconn: you were calling? 13.35.53 # Ah I have only seen sim pictures of it that colours are just plain simple basic colours 13.36.39 Join Murkey [0] (i=Murkey@cpc3-lisb1-3-1-cust74.belf.cable.ntl.com) 13.36.42 # someone should port PANG or Puzzle Bubble! 13.37.02 # kkk 13.37.15 # http://cafe.naver.com/iriverh300/1031 13.37.23 # hmm, can anyone explain an "error accessing playlist control file"? 13.37.53 # puzzle bobble! 13.37.56 # i love that game 13.38.17 # everywhere I've seen tells me to play a file, but that's what happens if I try... 13.38.45 # Murkey: You have a .rockbox folder on your unit? 13.39.04 # yeah 13.39.38 # Slasheri: On the LCD matter, wouldn't be easier just to buy an H300 LCD and fit it there? Or the screen i bigger in physical dimensions? 13.39.50 # Then try to delete the file .rockbox/.playlist_control and see if that helps. 13.40.13 # XavierGr: i think the h300 controller would be harder to connect to the pcb 13.40.30 # Ha Lear I remember doing such a thing the first time I installed a game on my first PC. 13.41.03 # I don't have that file 13.41.07 # It said that a sys.file was causing an error and that the game couldn't start 13.41.25 # then I deleted that file and Windows never started again. LOL 13.41.29 # <_FireFly_> ;) 13.41.36 # Then it seems Rockbox can't create it for some reason... 13.42.05 # No filesystem errors? (Checked with scandisk or similar.) 13.42.28 # hmm, k, will take a look at that 13.42.41 # thanks 13.46.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.46.02 Quit Kohlrabi ("Leaving") 13.50.41 # Damn you Slasheri, now I want to buy that little display! 13.51.01 # nothing wrong with the filesystem =/ 13.51.02 # ;p 13.51.24 # XavierGr: hehe :D 13.51.32 Join ep0ch| [0] (n=ep0ch|@84.12.31.87) 13.52.34 # ep0ch|: Were you the guy that soldered an rtc chip in his iHP? 13.54.42 # nah 13.54.51 # Murkey: well, rockbox needs to be able to open that file. Perhaps try create an empty one from your PC? 13.56.20 # is it just ".playlist_control"? no extensions or anything? 13.56.58 # Correct, and it needs to be in the /.rockbox/ folder on the player. 13.57.19 # kk, cheers 13.59.14 # Slasheri: are you sure that you can make it work on an iHP? 13.59.23 Join webguest60 [0] (n=d59e8fd9@labb.contactor.se) 13.59.27 # Those lcds need 6 volts for the backlight. 13.59.45 # lol, windows won't let me create a file with a "." at the start 13.59.54 # xaviergr: the guy that soldered a rtc into a h-120 was XShock 14.00.03 # so you shoud use something more than just soldering the lcd 14.00.14 # ah yes thanks webguest60 14.00.22 # XavierGr: if i can fit the module, i am quite sure it will work 14.00.26 # and i'm searching him to 14.00.40 # Murkey: try name it via Rockbox maybe 14.00.42 # webguest60: He should put a wiki article about it. 14.00.52 # what are you talking about? soldering a color lcd to the h120? 14.01.13 # Slasheri: Also resolution of these are 128*128. iHP: 128*160 14.01.13 # xaviergr: yes he should... but i have never seen him around 14.01.18 # Murkey: go to show all files and rename it 14.01.35 # Murkey: Nope, not form Explorer at least. Try the command prompt; that works, I tink. 14.01.59 # perhaps he bricked his player 14.02.02 # Moos: can't access files from Rockbox 14.02.06 # XavierGr: hmm, true. That means the scaling will be different, and wps etc. would not work directly 14.02.25 # are the physical dimenions the same? 14.02.29 # Murkey: Something like this: Echo >.rockbox/.playlist_control 14.02.38 # Murkey: oops :( I thought it was playlist problem 14.03.03 # Assuming you're in the root of the player... 14.04.12 # xaviergr: a color lcd for h1x0? or what? 14.04.19 # XavierGr: they are not exactly same but should be very close. I can't say more before getting one of those modules :) 14.04.57 # iPod Video support is now in CVS. 14.05.13 # Rockbox target #15 14.05.25 # Lear: didn't work, but am rebooting rockbox to make sure 14.05.53 # nope, doesn't work 14.06.15 # What happened when you tried? Creating a file shouldn't be a problem... 14.06.46 # no, still gives the error access playlist control 14.07.04 # murkey: but is the file there now? 14.08.37 # .playlist_control is there 14.09.00 # empty file 14.09.36 # linuxstb: you have an iPod Video too? 14.09.58 # Temporarily until I give it to my g/f for christmas. 14.10.03 # ah :) 14.10.11 # But then I'll still have access to it - we live together. 14.10.35 # that's cool, i might just buy one :) 14.10.56 # I would recommend the 30GB model - it's a lot thinner than the 60GB and is damn cool in black. 14.11.06 # webguest60: Yes, Slasheri said that maybe he is going to put a colour LCD on his iHP... 14.11.07 # yeah thats exactly what i'm thinking 14.11.08 # i have a 30gb whitey 14.11.20 # Membrillo: An ipod video? 14.11.27 # yep 14.11.36 # Fancy being the first user to install Rockbox? 14.11.48 # say yes :) 14.11.51 # ah shit. im lending it to a friend over night :'( 14.12.05 # ill have it tomorrow hopefully 14.12.25 Quit webguest60 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 14.12.26 # Are you a Windows user? 14.12.29 # yep 14.12.37 # Do you have access to a Linux box? 14.12.41 # nope 14.12.48 # <_FireFly_> linuxstb: what about cygwin ?? 14.12.51 # although i have the RDK and Cygwin 14.12.55 # At the moment, it's not possible to install the bootloader from cygwin 14.13.02 # <_FireFly_> ah ok 14.13.03 # Or at least, preglow couldn't figure out how. 14.13.12 Nick ashridah is now known as Lost-ash (n=ashridah@67.106.77.212.ptr.us.xo.net) 14.13.20 # Theoritically speaking: Can I biuld rockbox inside coLinux? 14.13.33 # if someone makes me a build, ill install it as soon as i can 14.13.51 # <_FireFly_> Membrillo: the main problem is to install the bootloader 14.14.00 Join webguest60 [0] (n=d59e95ee@labb.contactor.se) 14.14.01 # which bit didn't work in cygwin? the dd stuff? 14.14.06 # It's to do with the way cygwin handles disk partitions - the iPod has a boot partition marked as type zero (Empty). You need to use "dd" to write the Rockbox bootloader to that boot partition, but cygwin doesn't give you access to parititions of type 0. 14.14.10 # <_FireFly_> rb itself can you use the daily-build afaik 14.14.17 # <_FireFly_> for rb itsef 14.14.20 # _FireFly_: im a little edgy about installing the bootloader though. Its likely it will stuff up right 14.14.37 # Membrillo: It's impossible to brick an ipod. 14.14.42 # linuxstb: sweet 14.14.49 # linuxstb: im in 14.14.51 # :P 14.15.14 # <_FireFly_> Membrillo: you can always use the Ipod-updater to recover it afiak 14.15.26 # awesome 14.15.34 # xaviergr/slasheri: wow... on the main unit? 14.15.44 # hmm, still nothing, ah well, no rockbox for me 14.15.50 # thanks for help, later all 14.16.05 # murkey: have you tried to install a new build? 14.16.05 Quit Murkey () 14.16.18 # well, hopefully ill have my ipod back tomorrow 14.16.21 # Membrillo: Unless you can work out how to write to the raw disk partition in Cygwin, you're going to need to use Linux for the bootloader. But a Live CD should be enough. 14.16.29 # i think i might buy one in an hour 14.16.32 # <_FireFly_> yepp 14.16.37 # knoppix will do it very easily 14.16.39 # Membrillo: Are you able to help with the port? 14.16.55 # linuxstb: im able to test it. I have no C knowledge 14.17.03 # Time to learn :) 14.17.25 # haha 14.17.28 # if knoppix can biuld rockbox I guess that coLinux could do it too, right? 14.17.33 # is it as simple as .... learning? 14.18.02 Join edx [0] (i=edx@p54A85F6F.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.18.15 # linuxstb: where should i start reading up? 14.18.34 # Do you have any programming experience? 14.18.53 # i can program Visual basic 14.18.56 # Membrillo: yes you can do that with colinux 14.18.58 # the dd thing 14.19.17 # does the Video come with a case of some kind? 14.19.27 # ep0ch|: No - I need to buy one today. 14.19.28 # so i could install the bootloader with colinux? 14.19.54 # As long as colinux gives you full access to usb hard disks, then yes. 14.19.55 # ep0ch|: yeah... no case. i need to get one because even looking after it... my screen is getting ferkarked 14.20.03 # ....must....not....buy....another....dap.... 14.20.16 # hehe. There are so many new targets for Rockbox now. 14.20.20 # perplexity: thats the mode i'm in atm 14.20.36 # or mood even 14.20.41 # * perplexity repeats to self rainman style "I'm happy with my h300" 14.20.49 # its a brick :p 14.21.09 # it's just I do a lot of flying and the video playback is the thing I use the most.. and an ipod video looks so nice... 14.21.17 # xvid_decraw.c:862: error: parse error at end of input 14.21.23 # that kind of error really suck 14.21.36 # lostlogic: awake? 14.21.43 # downlaoding Colinux now 14.22.16 # did anyone get lostlogics vorbis optimization patch to build? 14.22.20 # The video playback is _very_ nice on the ipod video. Apparently it supports frame sizes up to 230400 pixels - which means 640x360 for a 16:9 aspect ratio movie - on both the internal LCD and tv-out. 14.22.48 # Oh! it has tv out also? nooooooo making my will melt away... 14.22.54 # video playback is very nice indeed 14.23.01 # although encoding can be a bugger 14.23.07 # especially from DVD 14.23.27 # I already have pre-cooked scripts to do that for the h300 using transcode.. I can generally get it right.. 14.23.30 # ffmpeg seems to work under Linux - but I am getting seeking issues (i.e. playback crashes sometimes when seeking) 14.23.39 # i have mine at 320x240. 2500kbps CBR 14.23.42 # i dont really care about video, i just want a slim device with the scroll wheel 14.24.12 # whereas I want something with my h300 ish features that can run rockbox, but happy to boot into the factory firmware to play nice video 14.24.51 # might see if I can borrow one to play with.. I know someone who has theirs sitting in a box and has not used it yet 14.24.58 # so once ive compiled the video bootloader, how is it installed? 14.25.22 # Membrillo: See http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodBoot 14.25.34 # I haven't updated it for the video yet, but the process is almost identical 14.25.44 # ok awesome 14.25.49 # ep0ch: yes, I did. why? 14.26.02 # There is just an extra file you need to extract from the original boot partition, and insert it in the Rockbox boot partition. 14.26.06 # hmm i couldnt get it to build 14.26.06 # should i go Debian or Gentoo deluxe for coLinux 14.26.47 # It doesn't matter. After you install the bootloader, you can just use the devkit to compile and install Rockbox itself. 14.26.47 # Debian or Gentoo Deluxe? 14.26.56 # ok 14.27.03 # ep0ch: what kind of error do you get? 14.27.10 # hangon 14.27.12 # I'd use debian.. no compiling, just download 14.27.22 # im getting debian 14.27.32 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 14.27.33 # Membrillo: But there is a small bug with the bootloader at the moment - it doesn't load the original Apple firmware :) 14.27.44 # ah 14.27.46 # thats a bummer 14.28.04 # So you need to restore the original boot partition (a quick "dd" command from Linux) in order to get the Apple firmware back. 14.28.36 # But hopefully I'll find the problem with that and fix it soon - it applies to all ipods, not just the video. 14.28.58 # is sourceforge down 14.28.58 # ? 14.29.16 # linuxstb: do all the G4 and G5 ipods run on 2x 75MHz? 14.29.50 # Yes. I think so. 14.30.18 # The Nano and Video have a PP5021 - I don't know if that's capable of higher clock speeds. But it does have 128KB of IRAM, compared to 96KB on the PP5020. 14.30.56 # And also, the 60GB Video has 64MB of RAM. The 30GB has 32MB of RAM. 14.30.56 Quit webguest60 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 14.31.31 # lear: i get an error that reads something along the lines of "multiple defintion of" for oggpack_readinit and "first defined in bitwise.c" 14.31.56 # so, i can compile from the CVS under colinux. ready to put onto the ipod? 14.31.57 # If it is a link-time problem, delete libTremor.a. 14.32.10 # Bitwise.c should be empty after applying the patch. 14.32.17 # yeah it is 14.32.37 Join tucoz [0] (n=50ca6645@labb.contactor.se) 14.33.12 # Then it must be a link problem, so delete the tremor lib, and perhaps the .o files as well. 14.33.13 # linuxstb, congratulations on the number_of_targets bump :) 14.34.28 # lear: cool, so i ran make, deleted the libTremor.a and then ran make again, seems to have worked 14.34.29 # linuxstb, I am a bit curious on what ipl is in terms of boot-time etc. compared to rockbox. 14.34.32 # linuxstb: Where did you got the iPod Video? I thought you had a colour. 14.36.04 Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.69 [Firefox 1.5/0000000000]") 14.36.36 # I believe a uclinux-kernel is more overkill on a dap than the rockbox-kernel. 14.37.35 # maybe you should get a ipod-specific section in the forums now. 14.37.59 # A mistic river hosted ipod forum? :) 14.38.03 # hehe 14.38.07 # lol 14.38.14 # They host the archoses right? 14.38.22 # Yep. 14.39.11 # IPL boot-time is what you would expect from Linux - a long process with lots of console messages being displayed. 14.39.13 # actually, rockbox runs on equal number of targets as the irivers now. h100, h120, h320; nano, photo, video 14.39.38 # I see, not what I would want from a dap then. 14.39.55 # But I haven't timed it. However, Rockbox boots in the usual quick time - about 6 seconds on my Color to get to the file browser from reset. 14.39.59 # thegeek: are you here? 14.40.11 # The video seems faster, and I'm sure the Nano is as well. 14.40.25 # debian almost downloaded 14.40.26 # ok, I would be surprised if ipl is faster. It is linux after all. 14.40.36 # But the ipod isn't normally powered off - it has a deep sleep mode. 14.40.38 # I remember thei first rockbox video I saw 14.40.45 Quit DrumRBoy320|away () 14.40.47 # ok, I see. 14.40.58 # It was the one with an Archos and a timer. 14.41.06 # 4 seconds to play music 14.41.27 # linuxstb: so when i get my ipod video, you want me to come on here and hopefully find you to test it? 14.41.50 # I saw that when there was the first discussion of rockbox on the H100. I was amazed when I saw it... 14.42.16 # Yep, I'm happy to help. You will need your ipod video, Linux, a copy of the Rockbox source code, and an arm cross-compiler. 14.42.33 # coLinux? 14.42.36 # is that ok? 14.42.37 # If you can follow the wiki instructions as far as you can, then come here. 14.42.48 # is colinux ok? 14.43.00 # But I could just give you the binaries if you didn't want to go through the trouble of installing your own compiler yet. 14.43.08 # I don't know about colinux - I've never used it. 14.43.34 # would it be to much to send the binaries? 14.43.44 # i havent got CVS installed here 14.44.04 # No, that's no problem. 14.44.18 # awesome 14.44.38 # how do you want to send them 14.44.50 # I'll just upload them to my website. 14.44.57 # sounds good 14.45.02 # thanks a bunch 14.45.29 # ill test it as soon as i can 14.45.56 # But I think it's probably about time we had iPod builds available on the website - it's now just about functional. 14.46.17 # * linuxstb summons Bagder 14.46.17 # so what can the Video build do currently? 14.46.49 # linuxstb, what do you think of rockbox on the grayscale 4g´s? I read a post in the forums regarding that. 14.47.00 # Rockbox runs, you can use the file browser, and run the plugins. There is no audio yet on any ipods. 14.47.18 # nice 14.47.25 # tucoz: It just needs someone to write an LCD driver. Everything else will be the same. 14.47.30 # linuxstb: did you fix the really slow audio problem on your ipod rockbox? 14.47.34 # Ok, cool. 14.47.39 # ill probably test it out, give feedback, then go back to the original 14.47.41 # *codec* not audio 14.47.47 # ep0ch|: No, I got distracted with the video. 14.48.05 # unless the dual boot is fixed soonish 14.48.33 # As I said, it only takes a few seconds to restore the original boot partition, and your ipod is back to it's original Apple identity. 14.48.39 # yep 14.48.41 # sounds good 14.48.54 # ok 14.48.59 # ive downloaded colinux 14.49.05 # now how do i use it... 14.49.19 # (i have no linux experience) 14.49.49 Join actionshrimp [0] (n=NNSCRIPT@host86-136-16-34.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) 14.49.58 # Membrillo: That's a big question. 14.50.04 # haha yeah 14.50.05 # i know 14.50.07 # bye~ 14.50.09 # Good night 14.50.10 # it was rhetorical 14.50.12 # When you get audio running on the ipods then I believe we could attract a few developers to rockbox. Maybe a slashdot or digg post could be a good thing to do then. 14.50.21 Quit Jungti1234 ("bye") 14.50.47 # digg? 14.50.50 # Although, out of the thousands of hits the rockbox site, a few should be interested in the actual development 14.51.30 # ep0ch. It is at www.digg.com. I find it nicer than slashdot. Not the moaning and complaints like on slashdot 14.52.43 # ah cool i'll bookmark it 14.52.44 # mostly technology news. People "digg" the news they like. 14.52.56 # :) 14.53.18 # a bit too white though 14.53.20 # And I have also found the comments being more friendly than those at slashdot. 14.53.21 # hehe 14.53.46 # to easy to read. 14.53.48 # too 14.54.09 # right time to go shopping and ti'll ry not to pick up an ipod 14.54.15 # i'll try 14.54.32 # good luck, don´t think about rockbox when you hold it in your hand 14.55.08 # if i can blag a free case for it then its a done deal 15.00.04 Part ep0ch| 15.00.21 # ep0ch|: I should warn you that I've no idea about the audio hardware in the ipod video. The lcd is working though - it seems slightly slower than the Color/Photo, but still very usable. 15.00.30 # oops, too late. 15.03.43 Part tucoz 15.05.51 # button driver's working? 15.05.54 # on video, that is 15.07.26 # Yep :) 15.07.28 # Everything works. 15.07.47 # except the bootloader :P 15.08.00 # which mostly works 15.08.01 # lostlogic: no surprise about gcc's coldfire support, it is pathetic 15.08.11 # The only difference is that enabling the cache in the bootloader caused Rockbox to crash on startup. 15.08.19 # Took me a while to track that down. 15.09.08 # The LCD driver in IPL seems to work very well. I don't know what the IPL people were complaining about. 15.09.22 # god knows 15.09.29 # perhaps slowcoder and his glitchy hardware 15.09.32 # I think the problem is that the Linux console driver does an lcd_update() after drawing every individual character. 15.09.33 # you spoken to them about it? 15.09.33 # IPL killed my buddies 4g 15.09.36 # hahahahaha 15.09.51 # Membrillo: No it didn't - your buddy killed it. 15.09.54 # and btw, they don't know about audio, i don't think thy've got that working yet 15.10.09 # Yes - that's the big question. 15.10.23 # well, it was him, updating IPL that killed it ;) it has the little unhappy ipod picture 15.10.39 # He just needs to enter disk mode, and use the Apple restorer. 15.10.56 # ok ill tell him that 15.11.03 # whats the button combination to enter disk mode? 15.11.07 # See http://ipodlinux.org/Key_Combinations for instructions on entering disk mode. 15.11.09 # prev + selecvtr 15.11.11 # select! 15.11.18 # cold fingers syndrome 15.12.12 # it's nearly impossible to break an ipod 15.12.33 # It's almost as if Apple designed them for hacking. 15.12.36 # i dropped mine from 20cm onto carpet and the screen shattered......... 15.13.05 # now thats easily broken 15.13.11 # <_FireFly_> :) 15.13.36 # I almost had a heart attack last night - I knocked the video off my desk, but luckily it landed in my lap. 15.13.43 # hahaha 15.13.53 # haha nice 15.14.00 # the videos feel reeeeally fragile 15.14.20 # Any suggestions for cases? 15.15.11 # gaaah 15.15.12 # flakey pc 15.15.52 # linuxstb: are you going to start daily and bleed builds for ipods now? 15.16.03 # how does that work, do you have builds for each gen? 15.17.44 # or does one build work across multiple gens 15.17.56 # one build per gen 15.17.56 # roughly 15.18.40 # that must be frustrating for applying patches... wouldnt you need to customize it 5 times, for all the builds? 15.18.43 # We now have 3 ipod builds - Color/Photo, Nano and Video. 15.19.18 # Most of the code is shared between all Rockbox targets - Archos, iriver and iPod. 15.19.41 # Other parts of the code depend on certain features, like colour screens, FM tuners etc 15.20.14 # Most of the low-level iPod code is identical for all three supported iPods. 15.20.15 # please, please tell me 15.20.18 # oh yeah. i read something about trying to write code that suited multiple builds as to avoid rewriting it for the future 15.20.22 # how can people use ie without crying hourly? 15.20.53 # <_FireFly_> i can't 15.21.03 # They think computers were meant to work that way. 15.21.04 # whats IE done? 15.21.09 # when I have to use ie I have a bucket standing next to the desk 15.21.16 # i just switched to another box, and it only had ie installed 15.21.22 # i tried using it, but it's unusable 15.21.23 # <_FireFly_> ouch 15.21.49 # i only got firefox about 4 days ago 15.21.59 # ive been using ie for the last decade 15.23.11 Join PaulJ [0] (n=864c035b@labb.contactor.se) 15.23.28 # I simply use IE to download firefox.. unless I have my keyring with me, where the windows firefox installer is a permanent fixture on my USB stick 15.23.51 # i just use opera 15.23.55 # i got tired of firefox' bloat 15.24.08 # <_FireFly_> which bloat ?? 15.24.17 # yeah.. I have opera also.. I forget now why I moved back to ff though.. 15.25.36 # _FireFly_: the bloat you see after running it a couple of hours 15.25.41 # it starts hugging quite an amount of ram 15.25.45 # hogging 15.25.59 # Oh yeah.. 15.25.59 # 29249 brad 15 0 350m 266m 16m S 0.0 26.3 15:03.23 thunderbird-bin 15.26.00 # 15543 brad 15 0 229m 107m 15m S 0.0 10.6 70:51.45 firefox-bin 15.26.04 # preglow: Do you think it's time to ask Bagder to add the ipod to the daily/bleeding-edge downloads? 15.26.14 # it just expands to consume all available ram.. 15.26.26 # <_FireFly_> for me not 15.26.51 # hi, is it a wanted behaviour, that when you have shuffle enabled the playlist gets reshuffeled every time you enter and exit the quickmenu? 15.27.12 Part amiconn 15.27.22 # linuxstb: no 15.27.37 # is it just me or is it amazing fun to have rockbox on recording mode and have headphones in 15.27.38 # it's flakey and doesn't even pretend to do anything 15.27.45 # nano reboots sporadically from time to time 15.28.09 # <_FireFly_> Membrillo: you can ear the disk spinning :) 15.28.13 # <_FireFly_> hear 15.28.19 # i'd like to prevent the number of obvious bug reports first 15.28.40 # preglow: OK. 15.28.49 # _FireFly_: its still amazingly fun 15.29.46 # bbl 15.29.58 # Heh.. if my gf is reliable then I should have a sparkling new ipod video to play with for 3 days.. 15.33.53 # hey, how do I make another menu in rockbox? I want to make another menu under display 15.34.54 # <_FireFly_> San: for what 15.35.07 # god...when I see the word "river" on articles and stuff, I think that it is related to iriver and mp3 devices! :x 15.35.13 # I am trying to make a rockbox color changer thing 15.37.06 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-129-077.pools.arcor-ip.net) 15.37.33 # or can you tell me which file to edit atleast? 15.38.42 # <_FireFly_> look at menu.[ch] and the *_menu.c files 15.38.58 # yeah, i tought that was them 15.39.00 # thanks 15.42.34 # XavierGr 15.42.37 # yes, I'm here 15.42.46 # but I'm actually leaving very soon;) 15.43.29 # oh hi 15.43.36 # ;) 15.43.56 Join webguest17 [0] (n=80f3dc2a@labb.contactor.se) 15.43.59 # I want to ask you how exaclty did you remove the lcd in your iHP to fix the audio jack 15.44.12 # I did not remove it 15.44.12 # I see that it has 2 clips 15.44.19 # no need to remove it 15.44.25 # oh you didn't 15.44.27 # you can unsolder the jack without removing lvd 15.44.34 # I don't think removing the lcd is very smart 15.44.43 # very high risk of damaging it 15.44.53 # and how did you reached behind it? 15.44.56 Quit webguest17 (Client Quit) 15.45.02 # I never had to 15.45.10 # all the points are accessible from the top 15.45.37 # and the two small resistors I fixed were accessible by just lifting up the grey padding around the lcd 15.46.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.46.45 # ;) 15.47.10 # so here you can see the 2 resistors? <- http://www.rockbox.org/iriver/back.jpg 15.47.25 # no 15.47.33 # the resistors are on the other side 15.47.41 # oh wai 15.47.43 # t 15.47.47 # the points for the jack 15.47.52 # hmm 15.47.53 # no 15.47.54 # here? http://www.rockbox.org/iriver/naked_front.jpg 15.48.07 # all 3 poits are accessible from "top" 15.48.43 # the resistors I fixed on my player are L5 and L6,top left 15.48.58 # as you can see, the outline for the lcd is just under them 15.49.05 # yes 15.49.07 # I just lifted up the "grey" padding/stuff 15.49.10 # can someone help me really quick 15.49.12 # and I could solder just fine 15.49.15 # how do I make a new sub menu? 15.49.16 # just have to be a little careful 15.49.20 # in the settings? 15.49.27 # was there a bad soldering? or you just guessed? 15.49.34 # I just guessed 15.49.41 # I saw that when i bent the connector 15.49.42 # carefull of what? 15.49.54 # I guessed that those two resistors could get a bad connection 15.50.02 # careful not to burn the lcd or the grey padding 15.50.29 # hmm even then my bad resistors may be anywhere in the pcb right? 15.50.39 # heh 15.50.39 # well 15.50.59 # there is no guarantee that your problem is the same as mine 15.51.07 # of course 15.51.15 # but yes, a bad connection can occur anyplace 15.51.15 # but 15.51.26 # the top left part of the board 15.51.35 # is a little more exposed, because the audio jack is there 15.51.52 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 15.51.55 # and the audio jack can easily get a good "bend", if you drop your player and it lands right on the audio plug 15.51.58 # as mine did;) 15.51.58 # yes probably one of those many resistors is to blame. 15.52.15 # could be 15.52.19 # hard to say;) 15.52.22 # I have a hard time with a screw in mine. 15.52.34 # screw? 15.52.42 # you can't open it? 15.52.45 # it refused to unscrew easily 15.52.51 # wierd 15.52.56 # I've opened mine a lot of time 15.52.57 # so the next time I have to be carefull 15.52.59 # no problem 15.53.02 # mhm 15.53.14 # *times 15.53.16 # one of the screws got a little damaged. 15.53.21 # mhm 15.53.28 # and the screwdriver will not fit right 15.53.40 # hmm, sorry, but I've got to go;) 15.53.40 # hehe 15.53.46 # you need a good screwdriver;) 15.53.49 # ok bye and thanks 15.53.54 # no problem 15.59.23 Join DJDD_ [0] (n=DJDD@220-245-186-182.static.tpgi.com.au) 16.01.26 Quit Moos ("Happy Birthday Rockbox") 16.03.49 Quit Membrillo () 16.06.17 Join muesli__ [0] (i=muesli_t@Bc0b8.b.pppool.de) 16.16.00 Join Lear [0] (n=chatzill@h184n5c1o285.bredband.skanova.com) 16.23.38 # rb->snprintf(log_buffer,sizeof(log_buffer),"%x",mp4_ptr); 16.23.53 # I use that to check that 16.24.00 # the data in the buffer are the good one 16.24.24 # mp4_ptr is just at the begining of the data loaded from a file 16.24.30 # with read 16.25.00 # I use printf("%x\n",mp4_ptr); 16.25.00 # on pc to check if the data are the same 16.25.17 # I wanted to know if it's correct or if the endianness can change that 16.37.14 Join muesli- [0] (i=muesli_t@Bbcba.b.pppool.de) 16.38.59 # where is Linus =\ 16.40.10 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.41.56 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.45.39 # YESS! 16.45.44 # I am decoding !!! 16.45.54 # it was an indianness problem 16.48.05 # mirak: congrats!! 16.50.56 # Indians? :) 16.51.06 # the little bastards :) 16.51.39 # Any idea how many frames an hour you are decoding? 16.51.42 # I realised there was a problem when reading the first 32 bits word of the file 16.51.58 # I try to remove my check stuff 16.52.31 Quit muesli- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.53.28 Join muesli__ [0] (i=muesli_t@Bc144.b.pppool.de) 16.53.56 # I must remove some sleeps 16.54.11 # it may be faster than I first obeserved 16.55.18 # my 16.55.19 # god 16.55.22 # it's slow 16.55.34 # What were you expecting? 16.55.49 # more than one frame per second ? 16.55.50 # lol 16.56.19 # well 16.56.19 # I would say that 1 frame per second is a very good starting point. 16.56.21 # don't expect that 16.56.47 # I hop I have forgot a sleep somwhere 16.56.53 # mirak: Can you give us some numbers? 16.57.23 # no 16.57.39 # I would say two frames per second 16.57.44 Quit Rob2222 () 16.57.46 # with the lcd_update thing 16.58.03 # I use lcd_put to display the frame number 16.58.09 # man, that 5g screen is bloody huge 16.58.16 # So are you displaying the decoded frame as well? 16.58.21 # and not that expensive... 16.58.22 # linuxstb: no 16.58.22 # preglow: It's lovely. 16.58.33 # i don't like where this is going at all 16.58.44 # Where what is going? 16.58.48 # mirak: can you dump a frame to make sure decoding is working? 16.58.54 # i find myself wanting one 16.58.57 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@dslcustomer-230-197.vivodi.gr) 16.58.58 # hehe 16.58.59 # think i'll just skip that 16.59.10 # markun: I try that 16.59.23 # Let's hope for your sake that the IPL people fail to get audio working. 16.59.31 # at least if it manage to decode frames it must be ok 16.59.34 # mirak: does this xvid thing you're working on use floats? 16.59.36 # will see 17.00.05 # no I don't think so, but maybe I forgot some things 17.00.11 # the encoder uses floats 17.00.22 # or the post processing, but there is none here 17.01.36 # the code can be striped down a lot 17.02.19 # once I got something functional I will put it on cvs or patch whatever 17.02.58 # mirak: what resolution is the xvid? 17.03.29 Quit actionshrimp ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") 17.04.50 # 220*176 ... 17.05.00 # it's a 10 fps stream 17.05.07 Quit Genre9mp3 () 17.06.01 # linuxstb: you got much relevant sound code non-commited? 17.06.06 # i was thinking about having a go at it 17.06.35 # No, nothing. 17.06.51 Join actionshrimp [0] (n=NNSCRIPT@host86-136-16-34.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) 17.06.52 # Please go ahead. I'll try and look into the random crashes and reboots. 17.07.03 # yes, random crashes is another thing i'd like to know why happens 17.07.09 # it also reboots sporadically with you, yes? 17.07.10 # good 17.07.26 # hmm 17.07.33 # You obviously need to look into the "audio.c" file in the IPL source, plus also get a copy of the wm8971 datasheet. 17.07.44 # perhaps i should start masking the timer irq while the isr is active 17.07.58 # that did wonders for the button isr code 17.09.42 # I'm confused about the ata code. Rockbox never crashes when using the file browser, it's only when loading plugins or (I think) codecs. 17.09.53 Nick Lynx_awy is now known as Lynx_ (n=lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 17.10.08 # preglow: I think the only floats are related to time 17.10.27 # But I'm getting identical crashes on the Video - so its equally broken on all three targets. 17.11.35 Join Sando [0] (n=lolsteam@techgaming.net) 17.11.37 # anyone come to #flood and compare two bits of code for me? Want to make sure they are functionally identical. 17.14.40 # linuxstb: well, that's comforting 17.14.43 # i think i'll try the irq mask 17.15.06 # it would surprise me greatly if that's the error, but you never know 17.18.25 # hh 17.18.38 # *haha, I just had an idea, a game for rockbox 17.18.43 # rockdance 17.18.52 # like a dance mat, but you press the buttons 17.18.52 # :D 17.19.26 # it's ok, the frames can be saved 17.19.30 # well it still plays music, so for now, I'll decide that it works, and saves 7 instructions (a quarter of them) in the 3rd most called non-inline function in Tremor 17.19.34 # and they look fine 17.20.54 # 54d7ebd71a39755fc8a53ba3963fa474 /media/H300/dec00003.tga 54d7ebd71a39755fc8a53ba3963fa474 dec00003.tga 17.21.11 # ok that's the proof, md5sum are the same, so it decodes perfectly 17.21.23 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.23.02 # who can help on configfile_save function? 17.24.08 # linuxstb: you agree the iordy thing did nothing for stability? 17.30.33 # man, that broadcom thing looks powerful 17.31.04 # is there a limit on the extension size for viewers ? 17.32.49 # well, sure, but it is probably pretty long 17.36.25 # ok 17.37.10 # preglow: I haven't tested the iordy thing enough to say anything. 17.38.49 # i've had it enabled since linus pasted it 17.38.53 # hasn't done much for stability here 17.42.43 Quit linuxstb ("Leaving") 17.43.17 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 17.45.41 Quit steveb_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.46.04 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.46.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.56.23 Join muesli__ [0] (i=muesli_t@Bbcbd.b.pppool.de) 17.57.53 # lostlogic: which function is that? 17.58.20 # Lear: render_point -- performance impact of the improvement was minimal unfortunately :( 18.00.12 # Hm.. Gcc never inlines by itself? 18.00.34 # it does auto-inline -- render_point gets inlined when I let it. 18.00.53 # lostlogic: how does your profiling patch fit in the build system right now? 18.01.41 # preglow: fine fine -- I realized that I've put some m68k specific asm in it, so it only works on coldfire right now, and should probably not let it be enabled on other targets... but my patch patches configure and everything to turn it on and off. 18.02.28 # is it much asm= 18.02.29 # ? 18.02.34 # i'd love for this to work on ipod as well 18.03.28 # lostlogic: btw, I played around with the ideas from your Tremor optimization patch. By inlining oggpack_adv and the most used part of oggpack_look (but leave the rest of bitwise), much of the gains can be achieved. 18.03.49 # preglow: no, just 2 little bits for ++ and -- to not take 3 instructions. I'm going to rework profiling somewhat this week sometime to get more accurate tick counts and be a little faster, so don't patch it in yet. 18.04.09 # lostlogic: it really frigging does use three instructions for that? 18.04.24 # preglow: if you do it on a memory variable, yes. 18.04.55 # and if you do x[i++], it uses an extra register and an extra move for that too. 18.05.06 # that's bloody marvelous 18.05.20 # i knew the m68k backend was old and dusty, but hell 18.05.25 # that instruction's been around for ages 18.06.22 # yeah, perty dum. 18.06.24 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.06.34 # they might also mistakenly have disabled those instructions for coldfire 18.06.48 # i bet coldfire is a far more seldomly used target than vanilla m68k 18.06.59 # preglow: I was googling around, found a patch that was supposed to turn them on, just by adjusting a constraints file, but it didn't seem to work. 18.07.06 # oh? 18.07.09 # got an url? 18.07.29 # http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2005-08/msg01551.html 18.07.49 # haha, i had just queued an entire dir, after the first track the disk spun up, then playback just stopped 18.07.55 # s/queued/inserted/& 18.08.07 # and when i resumed playback, it started on something completely different 18.08.12 # sounds like we still have bugs, yes 18.08.51 # preglow: I've seen that as well or at least something similar. 18.09.57 Join YouCeyE [0] (n=YouCeyE@vp089013.reshsg.uci.edu) 18.12.22 Quit Strath (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.12.50 # hrmph 18.14.28 # gcc people wont accept a patch like that unless you threaten them anyway 18.15.33 Join Strath [0] (n=mike@dpc674681214.direcpc.com) 18.15.54 # heh yeah 18.17.37 # but no 18.17.45 # i don't know if the m68k backend even has a maintainer anymore 18.18.09 # and i seriously doubt it was updated to benefit from the gcc4 changes 18.20.54 Join San||Away [0] (n=test@212.2.167.245) 18.21.28 # yep, it's a very sad state for those trying to develop performance sensitive embedded opensource for the coldfire. 18.21.29 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-225-59.dsl.pipex.com) 18.22.45 Quit DangerousDan (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.24.11 # ok 18.24.45 Join muesli__ [0] (i=muesli_t@Bbc91.b.pppool.de) 18.24.52 # hem the plugin can take a xvid stream in input, and extract it tga rgb16 by default. The only key that's working is exit by pressing left arrow 18.25.04 # it works as a viewer 18.25.18 # what's the procedure to submit code ? 18.25.26 # sounds like a great start so far mirak :) 18.25.28 # you put it in the patch tracker 18.25.58 # gah, I think I need to teach GCC that if you are loading t0=*T++ does _NOT_ require two instructions too! 18.26.45 # there is one problem though, it's that I needed to augment the plugin ram space 18.26.59 # lostlogic, I suspect these are somewhat micro-optimisations you are doing.. remember.. the 1st rule of optimisation is don't.. Go the low hanging fruit 1st rather than the silly little things, lest you burn your brain out 18.27.08 # maybe people that want to develop will now what to do 18.27.22 # lostlogic: what???? 18.27.41 # lostlogic: please tell me it doesn't increment with a separate instruction 18.27.41 # because it will take some time before reducing it 18.27.43 # perplexity: well the addq.l fix gave 2.4% or so. and t0=*T++ is used extensively in the mdct so I expect similar results there. 18.28.03 # preglow: actually no, it doess %d0=*T++ and t0=%d0. 18.28.31 # perplexity: plus, hacking assembly is fun and good exercise. 18.28.44 # indeed.. on that I concur 18.30.05 # lostlogic: remarkable... 18.30.24 # but how do you fix this in the code? 18.30.30 # just insert asm snippets everywhere? 18.30.55 # preglow: sadly, yes -- I'm adding macros to the asm_mcf file, and then also defining them back to the original code in the misc.h. 18.31.15 # if there is a big static array in a plugin, does it influence the size of the binary or is it only defined at run time ? 18.32.00 # does gcc evaluate how static memory the plugin will take ? 18.32.05 # how much 18.32.23 # mirak: big static array goes in binary 18.32.33 # mirak: IRAM it, and yes the compiler knows how large it is 18.32.41 # objdump -t will tell you how big it ends up. 18.32.52 # I think it's in the .map file 18.33.19 # mirak: static ones probably don't end up in the .map 18.33.29 # (as I discovered writing my parser for the profiler) 18.34.21 Join muesli- [0] (i=muesli_t@Bc1ee.b.pppool.de) 18.38.03 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.39.51 Join idanm [0] (i=idan@80.178.110.98.adsl.012.net.il) 18.40.14 # hello! 18.40.22 # I have a problem applaying the patch h300_lcd_remote_buttons_v2.patch 18.41.09 # then it probably needs to be updated 18.42.28 # The text leading up to this was: 18.42.28 # -------------------------- 18.42.28 # |Index: apps/menu.c 18.42.28 DBUG Enqueued KICK idanm 18.42.28 # |=================================================================== 18.42.28 # |RCS file: /cvsroot/rockbox/apps/menu.c,v 18.42.28 *** Alert Mode level 1 18.42.28 # |retrieving revision 1.101 18.42.30 # |diff -u -b -B -w -r1.101 menu.c 18.42.32 # |--- apps/menu.c 5 Dec 2005 22:44:41 -0000 1.101 18.42.34 # |+++ apps/menu.c 12 Dec 2005 09:40:08 -0000 18.42.36 # -------------------------- 18.43.06 Join Mmmm [0] (n=mscarrat@cpc4-hem13-3-1-cust63.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 18.43.37 # what about colorised-wps, does someone use this patch? 18.52.18 # I did a cvsdo add myfolder to add a fodler, but then it fails for cvs diff -uN [files] > patch 18.52.29 *** Alert Mode OFF 18.52.43 # with [files] my folder name 18.52.51 # not sure what to do 18.53.22 Quit Mmmm () 18.53.44 # mirak: for a big patch like this, probably best to make a clean rockbox dir (fresh checkout) and then diff that dir with your working dir in completeness, and then delete the aprts of the patch that are not relevent from the resulting file. 18.54.05 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.54.15 Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.69 [Firefox 1.5/0000000000]") 18.54.32 # No need to checkout, surely. You can just do a 'cvs diff'. 18.55.16 # Oh, don't mind me. 18.55.21 # I'm not awake. 18.57.44 # perplexity: the low hanging fruit being learning a lot of math and writing an FFT, or do you have other ideas? (this indicates that my optimization only made mdct_backward about .8% faster, and at this rate I'll get somewhere in a year or 3) 18.59.10 # No.. that is exactly what I'm doing.. learning the math and working on the fft.. got the libfaad fft based mdct playing ogg q8 songs in almost real-time yesterday.. (it is real time if the disk is not buffering and the wps has no scrolling :) ) 18.59.37 # Now I'm just working on fully understanding the algorithms to see what can be improved. 19.00.02 # perplexity: *nod* that's too painful for me... I'll keep reading assembly and finding places where GCC is being blatantly stupid for now :-D 19.00.42 # great, coz if I get moving on the stuff I'm working on, I'll be able to apply your optimisations to that also 19.01.02 # might be worth an E-mail to the gcc people to ask if there is a maintainer for the coldfire generator 19.01.20 # it would be worth checking out if such a person exists, yes 19.01.28 # 'cause if not, we might as well just forget submittin patchdes 19.01.31 Join Massa1 [0] (n=Massa1@p549E9A3E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.01.38 Join DangerousDan [0] (n=Miranda@newtpulsifer.campus.luth.se) 19.02.09 # *nod* The problem is, I know how to make these optimizations with inline assembly, or in some cases just by moving around C statements to 'help' the compiler, but I don't have any clue how to change the compiler code to do it. 19.02.18 # Hi everybody! 19.02.54 # w00t! My combined optimization patch has made a marked difference in boost percentages on my favorite qualitative test song. 19.02.55 # Indeed.. but if there is a maintainer type person and you poke him with a list of silly things the compiler is doing he might be able to suggest ways of fixing it in not to difficult portions 19.03.04 # scweeeettt 19.03.06 # perplexity: yeah 19.03.24 # what sort of difference are we looking at ? 19.04.27 Quit Paprica (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.04.32 # Anybody there with knowledge to lcd_set_foreground/lcd_set_background functions? 19.04.35 # preglow: This is weird. This patch makes plugins load reliably for me on my ipod color: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/weird.diff 19.05.40 # is invalidate_icache() actually doing what you think it should ? 19.05.40 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.06.09 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-19-241-33.bna.bellsouth.net) 19.06.13 # between unoptimized and now, 7 or 8%, it's so hard to get good numbers from boost ratios - I can confirm about 3.5% improvement in the most called code areas from profiling 19.06.44 # the problem is that profiling doesn't show changes due to inlining and ram placement moves very well. hopefully when I improve profiling's tick counting algo it'll be able to count smarter. 19.06.48 Quit idanm (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.06.50 # sounds like a reasonable improvement.. hopefully translates into longer battery life :) 19.06.59 # perplexity: that's exactly why I'm working on it. 19.07.04 # cvs diff: failed to create lock directory for `/cvsroot/rockbox/apps/plugins/xvid' 19.07.17 # I guess I need to defiene CVSROOT 19.07.22 # I have done that 19.07.23 Quit muesli- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.07.28 # fail 19.07.49 # perplexity: the other big thing that it does is that during buffer fills, it's still realtime, even on pretty bad sections which is the part that was yucky 19.08.12 # mirak: just diff -Nru patched-source-dir fresh-source-dir 19.08.20 # unless you are still doing it from a single dir 19.08.26 # single dir 19.08.36 # I will do what you suggest 19.08.50 # Can anybody read me? 19.09.10 # sounds good lostlogic, so prior to the work you have done it used to skip while buffering on your test track ? 19.09.16 # yes Massa1 :) 19.09.25 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp57-adsl-106.ath.forthnet.gr) 19.09.37 # perplexity: yeah 19.09.57 # Oh, so there is nobody who knows how the lcd_set_foreground/lcd_set_background functions should work? 19.10.15 # well, given you did not get an answer, I'd say you are correct :) 19.10.21 # thegeek: Thanks, I think I have fixed it. (Though with a little scratch in the upper left corner of the LCD screen) 19.10.22 # linuxstb: well, have you tried making invalidate_icache actually do something? 19.10.31 # I'm just trying that now. 19.10.39 # make it read the top of memory 19.10.44 # like 64kb or something 19.11.38 # preglow: I just thought given where it was in that little patch, perhaps your screen update is doing just that 19.12.00 # thats :( 19.12.11 # perplexity: well, yes, we should have had this particular option covered from before 19.12.22 # perplexity: there's more than enough code executed before what you see there 19.12.47 # preglow: fair enough.. I only saw about 5 lines ;) 19.12.52 # I try to make new tags for WPS with which it is possible to set the foreground and background color of the text 19.13.04 # cvs [update aborted]: /home/karim/Prog/src/rockbox/CVSROOT: No such file or directory 19.13.11 # why does he want CVSROOT 19.13.15 # can I change that ? 19.13.17 # Foreground works (well, partially) - but I have problems with setting the background color... 19.13.51 Nick Lynx_ is now known as Lynx_awy (n=lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 19.14.41 Join idanm [0] (i=idan@80.178.110.98.adsl.012.net.il) 19.15.07 # Does Linux supports NTFS write access? 19.16.03 # I only want to set the background of the text but lcd_set_background always sets the color of the complete background :/ 19.16.06 # I try to make a script that run "cd ~/rockbox" and I get "cd: can't cd to ~/rockbox" 19.16.12 # Is this normal? 19.16.17 # Massa1, you want to grab amiconn when he's around. He wrote most of the display code. 19.16.24 # if I run it without a script then its ok 19.17.11 # XavierGr: I don't think so - at least Debian still mounts my NTFS partition readonly (without any explicit ro options) 19.17.13 # idanm: Thanks - do you know when he's usally here? 19.17.43 # Cassandra: Thanks - do you know when he's usally here? 19.17.54 # XavierGr: it does, but only if you don't alter the file size 19.18.03 # idanm: sorry - was wrong person :/ 19.18.32 # linuxstb: Is it possible to boot linux from another HD (that isn't set to boot sequence in BIOS) 19.18.34 # He's likely to be around in the next few hours, but I don't know his schedule I'm afraid. 19.18.35 # XavierGr: it's very experimental.. 19.19.00 # XavierGr: if you install GRUB as your bootloader on the primary disk, you can load linux from almost anywhere 19.19.08 # O.K., I'll keep my window open - maybe I'll meet him :) 19.19.11 # Grub is very nice. 19.19.34 # Although it really needs to support boot from CD. 19.19.59 # oh so E.g I have windows on my boot disk and install Ubuntu on my other HD (which isn't bootable at the moment). I could set it to dual boot, right? 19.21.14 Join Midgey34 [0] (n=Midgey34@c-24-11-55-125.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 19.21.41 # If you installed grub on the boot partition, yes. Although Windows may occasionally try to overwrite grub. It's like that. 19.22.14 # so I can set grub after the installation of Ubuntu? 19.22.57 # It will install GRUB as you install Ubuntu if you let it.. (I would) 19.23.17 # ah so Ubuntu will ask for it? 19.23.18 # nice 19.23.39 # what is crossfeed? 19.23.57 # mixing of left and right channel 19.24.00 # simulation of spearkers 19.24.06 # ^speakers 19.25.42 Join muesli__ [0] (i=muesli_t@Bbc8a.b.pppool.de) 19.26.56 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 19.26.56 # * Cassandra wonders wtf "multiple types in one declaration" (in the context of a class declaration) is supposed to mean. 19.27.36 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A450D4.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.29.04 Join petur [0] (i=petur@d54C1B62E.access.telenet.be) 19.29.59 # Cassandra: welcome to c++ error messages! 19.30.21 # the most common reason for suicide attempts around here 19.31.36 # Thanks, but you can keep them. 19.31.54 # C++ - so virtual, you'll never be able to tell what went wrong. 19.31.58 # when gcc first finds a c++ error, it spews forth several screens of them 19.32.02 # theoritically: If I loose the linux bootloader. (but the linux installation exists) Is there a tool that will let me recover the insalation? 19.32.12 # XavierGr: sure, just reinstall the bootloader 19.32.39 # not all compilers are as bad as gcc in that regard, though 19.32.51 # but i've had some very fucked up error messages 19.32.58 # which kept me searching for what was really wrong for hours 19.33.49 # The really odd thing is that afaik I haven't changed any of the code its whining about. 19.33.56 # Must be a bracketting error. 19.35.54 # probably 19.35.57 # those can be mysterious 19.36.37 # does the linux partition matters where will be? (like after the current partition or the start of the disk)? 19.37.52 # can't I do a tar file instead of a patch ? I don't know how to have coherent base folder for the patch 19.38.14 # <_FireFly_> mirak: do you had used cvs to get the sources ?? 19.38.22 # yes 19.38.22 # and what type do I have to make the new partition for Linux? 19.38.39 # XavierGr: ext3 or reiserfs 19.39.04 # XavierGr: there are grub boot cd 19.39.09 # <_FireFly_> or ext2 or xfs ... 19.39.45 # _FireFly_: ? 19.39.59 # ext3 or ext2? 19.40.06 # 3 ! 19.40.41 # ok then ext3! 19.41.03 # reiserfs is better 19.41.26 # there is not such option on partition magic. 19.41.46 Join Lear [0] (n=chatzill@h184n5c1o285.bredband.skanova.com) 19.42.18 # don't bother with partition type 19.42.29 # <_FireFly_> XavierGr: PM can only format patition in ext2/3 19.42.32 # the installer will format everything 19.42.38 # inside the partition 19.42.45 # <_FireFly_> yepp 19.43.10 # any help wanted for cvs 19.43.23 # <_FireFly_> mirak: you can do an cvs diff 19.43.30 # <_FireFly_> to make an patch 19.43.44 Join XavierGr_ [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp16-adsl-71.ath.forthnet.gr) 19.43.46 # I did that 19.43.47 # diff -Nru /home/karim/Prog/src/rockbox/rockbox/apps/plugins/xvid/ /home/karim/Prog/src/rockbox/fresh/apps/plugins/xvid/ > patche 19.43.59 # <_FireFly_> mirak: you don*t need r 19.44.00 # but I am almost sure it will be unusable by soembody else 19.44.34 # <_FireFly_> mirak: i think i know what do you mean 19.44.48 # <_FireFly_> because the patch doesn't have new files in it 19.44.57 # okay then I will just start installation of Ubuntu right now. 19.45.01 # wish me good luck 19.45.05 # <_FireFly_> XavierGr_: yepp 19.45.13 # _FireFly_: what ? 19.45.19 # maybe I will join from Linux the next time 19.45.27 # <_FireFly_> XavierGr_: do you have an free partition 19.45.33 # <_FireFly_> ? 19.45.35 # yes 19.45.42 # an ext3 right now 19.45.53 # I created with partition magix 19.45.55 # plz help 19.45.56 # ^magic 19.46.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.46.24 Quit idanm () 19.46.30 # <_FireFly_> mirak: ups 19.46.33 # <_FireFly_> my fault 19.46.49 # I don't see how this patch can be applied 19.46.55 # <_FireFly_> with -N it will add also new files, which aren*t in the repositiory yet 19.46.59 # ok later all! 19.47.06 # <_FireFly_> but the -r option isn*t needed 19.47.22 # <_FireFly_> diff -Nru /home/karim/Prog/src/rockbox/rockbox/apps/plugins/xvid/ > patch 19.47.26 # <_FireFly_> diff -Nu /home/karim/Prog/src/rockbox/rockbox/apps/plugins/xvid/ > patch 19.47.47 # <_FireFly_> and you don*t need to specify two dirs 19.48.02 # <_FireFly_> because cvs diff checks against the cvs-repository 19.48.06 # it says it needs it 19.48.13 Part XavierGr_ 19.48.21 # <_FireFly_> not if you say cvs diff 19.48.46 # cvs diff: No CVSROOT specified! Please use the `-d' option 19.48.46 # cvs [diff aborted]: or set the CVSROOT environment variable 19.48.49 # <_FireFly_> because you had said that you had done an cvs checkout rockbox to get the sources 19.49.02 # <_FireFly_> mirak: you must be in the root-dir 19.49.03 # Missing ; on the end of a class declaration. 19.49.09 # <_FireFly_> Cassandra: ;) 19.49.10 # Sometimes I hate C. 19.49.52 # <_FireFly_> mirak: in the root of the sources then type simply: cvs diff -Nu apps/plugins/xvid/ > patch 19.50.14 # <_FireFly_> mirak: pr cvs diff -NRu apps/plugins/xvid/ > patch 19.50.27 # <_FireFly_> if you have subfolders in apps/plugins/xvid 19.50.42 # Cassandra: haven't used c++ long, have you? ;) 19.51.06 # About 3 weeks? 19.51.42 # cvs diff: failed to create lock directory for `/cvsroot/rockbox/apps/plugins/xvid' (/cvsroot/rockbox/apps/plugins/xvid/#cvs.lock): No such file or directory 19.51.42 # cvs diff: failed to obtain dir lock in repository `/cvsroot/rockbox/apps/plugins/xvid' 19.51.42 # cvs [diff aborted]: read lock failed - giving up 19.52.16 # what're you trying to do? 19.52.25 # <_FireFly_> to create a patch for his plugin 19.53.03 # why doing a patch ? there is nothing to patch 19.53.22 # <_FireFly_> mirak: you create a patch 19.53.54 # that's what I try to do for half an hour 19.54.23 # <_FireFly_> why doing a patch ? there is nothing to patch and what did you mean with this sentences ?? 19.54.33 # well, yes 19.54.36 # you need to patch SOURCES 19.54.54 # I don't touch it 19.55.45 Join ^BeN^ [0] (n=Paprica@85-250-232-227.bb.netvision.net.il) 19.55.55 # the plugin is going to stay on my computer 19.59.43 # _FireFly_: do you have experience with lcd_XXX functions? Especially with lcd_set_foreground/lcd_set_background 20.00.59 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.01.04 Join dpassen1 [0] (n=dpassen1@resnet-233-61.resnet.UMBC.EDU) 20.01.41 # <_FireFly_> Massa1: about those two function no sorry 20.02.55 # preglow: Can you test this patch? http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/icache.diff Plugins seem to be reliable for me now on my color, but the patch makes no difference on the video. 20.03.23 # yeah, but the video also broke on our current cache init, yea? 20.04.24 # It broke when the cache init was in the bootloader. 20.04.26 # * Cassandra swears at her IDE. Buggy piece of crap. 20.04.52 # <_FireFly_> Cassandra: is it MSVC ?? 20.05.08 # Nope. wx-dev-cpp. 20.05.22 # I always use OSS for developing for Rockbox. 20.05.37 # Otherwise it makes it difficult for others to change my work. 20.05.54 # <_FireFly_> Codeblocks is also one which is based on wxewidget 20.06.33 # Code::blocks was too much "in at the deep end" for me. 20.06.47 # If I were restarting now, I could probably use it. 20.06.58 # can anyone explain me what I must do with CVSROOT ? 20.07.01 # <_FireFly_> but how should a IDE change the sources so that no other can change your work ?? 20.07.53 # cvs diff: failed to create lock directory for `/cvsroot/rockbox/apps/plugins/xvid' (/cvsroot/rockbox/apps/plugins/xvid/#cvs.lock): No such file or directory 20.08.06 # what's that error ? 20.09.30 # pfffffffff 20.09.50 # mirak: I don't know exactly what you try to do, but it seems that you don't have write access to the rockbox CVS... 20.10.14 # and therefore the cvs command is unable to set the lock... 20.12.03 # ok I will do a tar then 20.12.06 # ... 20.12.39 # linuxstb: nope 20.13.33 # I've just disabled the call to ipod_init_cache (for the video), and that seems to fix the reliability problems. 20.13.45 # But it's now dog-slow. 20.14.20 # So I think it's a cache problem, and nothing to do with the ata driver. 20.14.22 # cache is pretty important 20.14.37 # argh 20.14.43 # it sporadically reboots when doing some plugins 20.14.49 # Can you do the same test on the Nano? 20.14.55 # yea 20.15.06 # Both the video and Nano have the PP5021 20.16.25 # god damn 20.16.27 # the cache matters 20.17.18 # So is it working if you don't call ipod_cache_init() ? 20.17.23 # still testing 20.17.40 # But you've noticed how slow it is? 20.17.50 # yes 20.18.07 # well, so far things certainly seem to support your hypothesis 20.18.29 # yeah, no doubt 20.19.27 # i'll have a chat with ipl people and see if they've noticed anything 20.19.44 # I see slowcoder's just appeared. 20.19.48 # yeah, him 20.20.22 # no, there can be no doubt about this 20.20.25 # it works now 20.20.26 # never crashes 20.20.45 # That's good news in one way then. 20.20.59 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.21.13 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp16-adsl-71.ath.forthnet.gr) 20.21.27 # Hello again! 20.21.36 # I failed miserably! :( 20.21.39 # Hi XavierGr 20.22.06 Join muesli__ [0] (i=muesli_t@Bc128.b.pppool.de) 20.22.44 # I installed Ubuntu then it asked me to reboot and remove the cd to complete the process. I chose the other HD to boot. (because the first disk has Windows) LILO starts loads Linux and the it complains about a missing file. 20.22.56 # I guess I have the set the partition table wrong. 20.23.08 # <_FireFly_> no 20.23.13 # <_FireFly_> i don*t think so 20.23.24 # hen? 20.23.24 # <_FireFly_> maybe the bootloader isn*t setup correctly 20.23.26 # then? 20.23.37 # and how can I set up the bootloader? 20.24.11 # You still use LILO? As far as I know it does not support newer hardware especially bigger disks... 20.24.28 # lilo should have no problem with those 20.24.33 # well it asked for LILO in the first place. 20.24.51 # Linux kernel seems to load 20.25.02 # <_FireFly_> and then ?? 20.25.11 # on the other hand, ubuntu is unable to install grub if your hard drive is in an external RAID controller or somesuch (linux sees it as /dev/hde here) - and i am unable too 20.25.27 # but it complains about not finding a specific file and stops configuring. 20.25.40 # then I have only the basic commands. ls dir cd etc 20.25.46 # <_FireFly_> which file ?? 20.25.52 # is it unable to find the root partition? 20.26.03 # I don't remember? I will reboot and tell you. 20.26.13 # Just one think to be sure that I have the partition table correct. 20.26.20 # I mean one question. 20.26.25 # My set up: 20.26.29 # <_FireFly_> yeah withput the proper error message is it hars to help 20.26.29 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.26.30 # 2 Disks 20.26.42 # <_FireFly_> s/hars/hard 20.26.48 # I've got 2 HD (IDE PATA) 20.27.21 # Master has 2 partitions. The first is the windows boot partition, the second data. 20.27.30 # Slave has 2 partitions. 20.27.43 # 2 priamary. One data NTFS 20.28.00 # and the other XFS for UBUNTU also I set it bottable. 20.28.16 Join muesli__ [0] (i=muesli_t@Bbc9d.b.pppool.de) 20.28.27 # Is this setup right? 20.28.32 # <_FireFly_> there is no problem 20.28.53 # <_FireFly_> but to help the proper error message is needed 20.28.56 # then I will reset and tell you the error message 20.29.07 # later all 20.29.08 Part XavierGr 20.29.14 # linuxstb: can you confirm this? 20.29.16 # 20:28 The video wont take being run at 75MHz, blitting and having backlight 20.29.50 Part Midgey34 20.30.07 # I posted the xvid plugin on the tracker 20.30.21 Join DrumRBoy320|away [0] (n=Drumrboy@ool-44c20ff1.dyn.optonline.net) 20.33.20 # What does it play? And does it work in colour/greyscale? 20.34.59 # preglow: That seems to work for me. 20.35.04 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp16-adsl-71.ath.forthnet.gr) 20.35.48 # linuxstb: do some really intensive blitting if you can 20.35.51 # linuxstb: like starfield 20.35.58 # starfield works like a charm 20.36.08 # Even at quite high speeds 20.36.54 # gotta look damned cool on that big screen ;) 20.37.02 # It does :) 20.37.18 # cache? 20.37.21 # mount: Mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: No such file or directory; mount: Mounting /dev on /dev failed: No such file or directory; /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off. 20.37.25 # this is the error. 20.37.48 # <_FireFly_> strange 20.38.02 # preglow: Yes, with the cache enabled, plugins rarely load. 20.38.02 # Cassandra: it doesn't play, it extracts xvid stream to images for exemple 20.38.08 Quit muesli__ ("ich will Kühe!!!") 20.38.15 # And obviously, without the cache, everything is very slow. 20.38.18 # I will search a little bit and see if I can find a quick guid for dual boot. 20.38.20 # <_FireFly_> XavierGr: it seams that the /dev directory is missing 20.38.27 # But when I did manage to start starfield with the cache enabled, it flew. 20.38.34 # <_FireFly_> XavierGr: that is no problem with dualboot afaik 20.38.50 # <_FireFly_> at least you can boot in windows i can see :) 20.39.10 # of course. The linux partition is on the other disk 20.39.49 # should I put the linux partition on first on the 2nd disk? 20.40.11 # <_FireFly_> no that doesn*t matter 20.40.48 # <_FireFly_> can you boot with an livecd an check the linux-partition if there is a dev-dir ?? 20.41.14 # I think there is a /dev folder 20.41.21 # becuase I still had the cd command 20.41.31 # and it showed me the /dev folder 20.41.39 # <_FireFly_> hmm 20.41.41 # linuxstb: i'm pointing slowcoder to you 20.41.42 # but maybe this /dev folder was on the RAM 20.41.47 # <_FireFly_> yepp 20.41.59 # I have seen there is a video player plugin. What is it able to do for now ? 20.42.08 # I will try again setting things a little different 20.42.11 # bye again. 20.42.13 Part XavierGr 20.43.26 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@p54BD45DD.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.43.57 # who said windows users need to reboot a lot :D 20.44.16 # <_FireFly_> petur: that is only why his installation went a bit wrong 20.44.28 # <_FireFly_> s/why/because 20.44.42 # I know, just kidding! 20.46.10 # hi again :) 20.46.14 # <_FireFly_> hi 20.46.39 # linuxstb: The ipod video doesn't have the lcd data swapped, and is the same resolution as h300 and ipod color? 20.46.52 # no... 20.47.00 # 320x240 20.47.08 # That's.... huge 20.47.13 # indeed 20.47.14 # Irssi uptime: 8d 2h 27m 5s 20.47.18 # <_FireFly_> for this little dap :) 20.47.19 # No reboots for me :) 20.47.33 # nope, a PDA with a 640x480 screen, that's huge 20.47.43 # <_FireFly_> PDA != DAP ;) 20.48.49 # Hmm, imho even the H1x0 lcd resolution is plenty for a DAP, but then the iPod video carries 'video' in its name... 20.50.01 # I worked out the other day that when audio players come with 200GB of storage, I'll finally be happy to store my audio losslessly. 20.50.11 # I may have a few years to wait. 20.50.39 # <_FireFly_> currently for 2.5" disk 100GB is reached afaik 20.51.06 # 160GB 20.51.24 # <_FireFly_> oh then my infos are a bit old ;) 20.52.21 # Yeah, but I think 1.8" is the smallest practical size for an audio player. 20.52.35 # <_FireFly_> yepp 20.52.41 # Seagate Momentus: http://www.seagate.com/docs/pdf/marketing/PO-Momentus54.pdf 20.53.33 # <_FireFly_> nice 20.53.56 # Cassandra: Put such a disk in your old FMR, and then use WAV if we manage to support it :) 20.54.09 # <_FireFly_> ;) 20.54.10 # (a problem would be the access through USB though) 20.55.39 # amicon: Then I'd need a 400gb disk. ;) 20.56.02 # <_FireFly_> Cassandra: then you have to wait a long time .) 20.56.34 # linuxstb: Could you perhaps provide a front scan of the iPod video? You know, win32 sim... 20.56.47 # amiconn: pft, you've got a mac unit on the sh chips, if we can do flac -8 at 30mhz, you can do it at 5mhz!! 20.56.49 # I'll live with lossy for the time being, I suppose. 20.56.58 # amiconn: Sure :) I was about to ask you about that. 20.57.12 # amiconn: do you have experience with lcd_XXX functions? Especially with lcd_set_foreground/lcd_set_background? 20.57.17 # I calculated based on 500 albums at 1G / 3 albums. 20.57.43 # preglow: The SH mac is very limited compared to the coldfire emac. Would it be sufficient to use 16 bit data for flac? 20.57.53 # Massa1: I wrote them :) 20.58.01 # :) 20.58.07 # amiconn: maybe... i think i did some tests using the sixteen bit mac variant on coldfire and it worked out alright 20.58.22 # amiconn: as long as you restrict yourself to 16 bit flac files, that is 20.58.26 # aminconn: lcd_set_foreground sets the foreground color of the text, right? 20.58.40 # Now if I only would know more about codecs... 20.59.13 # amiconn: ffmpegFLAC is very small and neat 20.59.19 # Massa1: It sets the foreground colour for _all_ graphics operations, drawing text being one of them 20.59.28 # amiconn: how many cycles do you need per mac? 20.59.33 # amiconn: but why does lcd_set_background don't set the background color of the following text - it sets the background of the whole screen? 20.59.42 # No 20.59.54 # amiconn: no? 20.59.58 # It sets the background for all graphics operations. 21.00.13 # If one of your operations is clearing the screen, then yes. 21.00.44 # <_FireFly_> if you want to change the background only for the text then you need to change it before you draw the text and reset it afterwards 21.00.46 # But you can change the setting anytime between operations. Already drawn objects won't change 21.00.47 # amiconn: Hmm - I try to add a color tag to WPS where you should be able to change the foreground and background of the text 21.01.20 # The wps code is a real mess, and should probably been rewritten from scratch 21.01.29 # <_FireFly_> yepp 21.01.40 # I never know when it does redraw what part(s) 21.02.06 # <_FireFly_> TiMiD was think about a token-based verison 21.02.20 # You'll have a hard time trying to add colour (& other attributes) support 21.02.42 # amiconn: I set the foreground color and the following text output will be written in that color - that's fine! 21.03.12 # amiconn: I set the background color the same way and the background of the whole screen immediately changes - that's bad :( 21.03.50 # Probably it doesn't change immediately, but in the next redraw cycle 21.03.51 # <_FireFly_> have you reset to the old value after the text was drawn?? 21.04.18 # _FireFly_: which old value? 21.04.53 # <_FireFly_> which you get when calling lcd_get_background afaik 21.05.20 # amiconn: so is there a special routine, which just sets the text? 21.05.26 # <_FireFly_> no 21.06.30 # How can I detect that the text has been drawn and that I have to reset to the old values? 21.11.29 # <_FireFly_> with the current wps-code afaik not 21.12.19 # :( 21.14.08 # Do I understand the code right that it currently parses the WPS again and again and then prints out the elements as they occur in the WPS? 21.14.44 Join Light0 [0] (i=1000@aes52.girton.cam.ac.uk) 21.14.59 # <_FireFly_> yepp 21.15.18 # Wouldn't it be better to parse it once, compare it with the screen resolutiion and store the elements with its attributes e.g. in a list of arrays? 21.15.39 # so every element coult have its position, its color, its whatever... 21.16.20 Join Mmmm [0] (n=mscarrat@cpc4-hem13-3-1-cust63.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 21.16.28 # of course there have to be some kind of sub-arrays for the dynamic elements 21.16.56 # <_FireFly_> color support is very new to rb and the wps-code was created where only charcell- or b/w-bitmap-lcd were used 21.17.47 # Yeah, that's totally clear - maybe it's time for a redesign ;) 21.18.36 # BTW, I thought adding a color tag for the WPS would be fairly easy and a good starting point for getting some experience with the rockbox sources... 21.19.06 # linuxstb: what'd you say the nano codec chip was called again? 21.19.23 # audio.c is kind of sizable 21.19.25 # this might be... fun... 21.21.42 # gmailis ei voi kirjottaa viestii :( 21.21.55 # <_FireFly_> novimon: english please 21.22.05 # oh sorry, wrong channel :) 21.22.19 # cant compose e-mail in gmail 21.22.24 # I hope it passes 21.23.40 # * petur hugs his POP3 box 21.24.37 # web stuff is nice to use, but when it fails you can't do much about it... 21.25.41 # yeah 21.26.02 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp16-adsl-71.ath.forthnet.gr) 21.26.14 # Oh hi yo!!! 21.26.19 # new profiler version posted, yay. 21.26.29 # I am on Ubuntus finally 21.26.37 # and X-chat! 21.28.07 # ubuntu equals good linux distro 21.29.14 # For some reason grub wasn't enabled, and LILO didn't worked right 21.29.34 # As soon as I booted from the master HD the bootloader poped up. 21.29.54 # now to change the resolution. All seems tiny in this resolution 21.30.32 # Is there a counterpart to LCD_RGBPACK? I mean to split a given value into red, green, blue? 21.32.53 # amiconn: Is there a counterpart to LCD_RGBPACK? I mean to split a given value into red, green, blue? 21.35.35 # No. What do you want to do? 21.35.51 Quit San||Away (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.36.56 # amiconn: e.g. lcd_get_foreground, split it into its color parts, change the red part and keep green and blue as is... 21.39.03 # Why Ubuntu refuses to play mp3? Do I need codecs for that? 21.39.22 # <_FireFly_> XavierGr: xmms ?? 21.39.35 # preglow: audio.c is for two different audio codecs (3g and 4g) and also for both playback and recording. So we only need 25% of it for now. 21.40.02 # It's the WM8975 in our ipods - the WM8971 datasheet is the one I am referring to. 21.40.08 # http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/digital_audio/codecs/WM8971/ 21.40.22 # yeah 21.40.27 # they do have nano audio in ipl, yes? 21.40.33 # AFAIK. 21.40.54 # I think audio.c has checks for your hw version. 21.41.30 # yup, will look closer tomorrow or something 21.44.53 # might not get too much work done until after christmas 21.45.33 # I don't have sound :( 21.45.44 Join webguest08 [0] (n=50e10395@labb.contactor.se) 21.45.57 # XavierGr: #ubuntu 21.46.09 # he 21.46.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.47.49 # hehe ? 21.48.02 # xaviergr: unmute sound? 21.48.47 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.49.02 # amixer -> ummute master 21.49.12 # s/ummute/unmute 21.50.24 # Ubuntu/Gnome has a "control panel" for that, it's called volume control or something. 21.50.48 Quit webguest08 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 21.51.05 # albeit a rather buggy one 21.52.48 # well I am not a fool, I checked there first. But it seems that maybe my sound card isn't supported 21.53.00 # what sound card is it? 21.53.09 # hmm 21.53.56 # ehm an old creative sound blaster I think 21.54.09 # surely supported by alsa 21.54.19 # well, when I installed ubuntu, I had to do some digging; the muted channel wasn't shown by defalt... 21.54.26 # hm 21.54.31 # :) 21.54.48 # I got 2 alsa devices but both don't work, I will fiddle with it a little more. 21.54.57 # God all these seem like a whole new world. 21.55.30 # now lets see if it can recognise my printer and scanner :) 21.56.18 # if you just type amixer 21.56.29 # you should be able to see if master stuff is muted 22.03.09 # okiedoke, i've go 22.03.10 # later 22.03.32 Quit Lear (Remote closed the connection) 22.03.59 # why does the disk start spinning when you enter recording screen and before recording even starts... Grrr 22.04.36 Join Subterranean [0] (n=a@spc2-asht1-3-0-cust195.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) 22.06.13 Join b0br [0] (n=3ef54246@labb.contactor.se) 22.06.51 Join solexx [0] (n=jrschulz@c158029.adsl.hansenet.de) 22.07.39 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB5BF1F.ipt.aol.com) 22.09.02 # converting seconds into ticks is sec*Hz ? 22.11.43 # ticks/60 22.11.56 # or ticks/HZ 22.12.14 # thnx 22.14.25 # god I got dizee with all these new options and strange icons.... 22.16.58 Quit DJDD_ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 22.18.05 Quit Massa1 ("ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]") 22.22.05 Quit solexx_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.32.35 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 22.32.56 Join Moos [0] (n=DrMoos@m196.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 22.40.33 Part b0br 22.42.11 Quit Mmmm () 22.47.26 Quit XavierGr ("Leaving") 22.49.42 Join San [0] (n=test@212.2.167.245) 22.49.47 # http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&group_id=44306&aid=1380389 22.49.52 # anyone seen that?^^ 22.50.49 # san: the devs all belong to a mailing list that gets notifications of added patches. 22.51.02 # it's safe to say that they're aware of it. 22.51.03 # oh, ok 22.51.05 # does it work> 22.51.07 # ? 22.51.15 # no idea, don't have a H3xx :( 22.51.20 # oh, ok 22.51.22 # anyone else? 22.52.05 # not interested in the fancy stuff atm 22.52.33 # nathanh floats around in here when it's a vaguely sociable hour in .au 22.52.39 # best to ask him 22.52.50 # ok 23.25.01 Quit markun ("Changing server") 23.25.07 Join markun [0] (n=karl@bastards.student.ipv6.utwente.nl) 23.31.36 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-225-59.dsl.pipex.com) 23.32.59 # Would it be OK to call create_numbered_filename() from within the pcm_recording_start i.s.o. the REC button handler? 23.33.12 # amiconn: I've uploaded a scan here: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/ipodvideo.png 23.33.38 # it causes disk spinup and thus the recording start point is wrong... 23.34.05 Join nathanh [0] (n=wosjowj@220-245-216-23-act-pppoe.tpgi.com.au) 23.38.56 # anyone? 23.44.46 # some other time perhaps... 23.44.54 # nite... 23.45.00 Quit petur ("here today, gone tomorrow") 23.46.06 Join qwisp11 [0] (n=arnott_c@cpc1-oxfd4-4-0-cust172.oxfd.cable.ntl.com) 23.46.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.47.07 # linuxstb: at first without optimisation you said you were running mp3 at 10% real time right ? 23.49.09 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 23.49.20 Quit linuxstb (Nick collision from services.) 23.49.24 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 23.50.08 # mirak: Yes, I think that's about right. The CPU was also not at full speed though if I remember rightly. 23.50.45 Quit qwisp11 (Client Quit) 23.55.22 # linuxstb: it's at full speed actually ? 23.55.31 # I heard it was overheating or something 23.56.07 Join akaidiot [0] (n=nope@c-5846e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se)