--- Log for 20.12.105 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 2 days and 8 hours ago 00.00.34 Join muesli- [0] (i=muesli_t@Bbcb2.b.pppool.de) 00.00.49 Part ep0ch| 00.01.11 # yippie... prerecording is working :D 00.01.37 # silly me was using global_settings.rec_frequency in his calculation as frequency ;) 00.06.00 # LinusN: I'll create a patch tomorrow. changes are: uses circular buffer, no more glitches and pre-recording... will test more first... 00.11.23 # If somebody wants to test: http://users.telenet.be/mieke-en-peter/pcm_record.c.patch (patches file in /firmware - H1xx and H3xx only) 00.14.47 # goodnight 00.15.09 Quit petur ("here today, gone tomorrow") 00.22.44 Quit tvelocity ("Leaving") 00.22.54 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.23.19 Join miner49er [0] (n=root@82-32-84-226.cable.ubr01.chap.blueyonder.co.uk) 00.25.54 # Hi there folks, I'm just updated CVS and now when I try to rebuild the simulator, I'm getting X11/Intrinsic.h: No such file or directory. Any ideas? I'm keen to work on my plugin!!! 00.26.30 # what OS are you on? 00.27.01 # hi badger, i'm on Debian 00.27.19 # and you have x11 dev files installed? 00.28.08 # Well, it was bvuilding just before...well, i'd re-installed debian and just copied my rockbox stuff over, and was just running make again, so maybe i havn't..hang on. 00.28.10 # libxt-dev to be exact 00.28.26 # for that particular file 00.30.02 # duuh, that was it i think, I hadn't installed it... 00.31.00 # I searched for intrinsic.h in the debian package searcher tool and couldn't find it though, so thought it must have been something else 00.32.57 Quit yngwi ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5.1 [Firefox 1.5/undefined]") 00.33.33 # time for bed 00.33.38 Join yngwi [0] (n=chatzill@chello080109107064.1.15.vie.surfer.at) 00.34.21 Quit ender` (" I think I remember an episode of MacGyver where he overthrew a violent dictator with a rubber band, 2 bottle caps, and some n") 00.35.26 Part LinusN 00.37.05 Join DJDD_ [0] (n=DJDD@220-245-186-182.static.tpgi.com.au) 00.37.15 # do you gain something by putting in assembly a simple C addition ? 00.37.44 Part DJDD_ 00.38.21 Quit yngwi ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5.1 [Firefox 1.5/undefined]") 00.41.10 # Cheers Badger, it's working now :-) But I thought I would try out the iRiver simulator, is there a problem with that? 00.48.50 # miner49er: next time, use packages.debian.org to search through the contents of all packages 00.51.45 Quit webguest31 ("CGI:IRC") 00.52.06 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@labb.contactor.se) 00.56.30 Quit miner49er (Remote closed the connection) 01.01.54 Join BoD[] [0] (n=BoD@JRAF.org) 01.02.20 # Hello ! 01.05.57 Part LinusN 01.06.40 Quit muesli- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.07.44 Quit Moos ("Happy Birthday Rockbox") 01.14.54 Quit PaulJ (".") 01.22.27 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@labb.contactor.se) 01.22.46 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@58.77.81.144) 01.25.25 Quit mirak ("Ex-Chat") 01.33.03 Quit San||Away (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.46.05 Part LinusN 01.46.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.53.03 Quit dpassen1 () 01.57.54 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.05.08 Part ratpack91 02.06.06 Join YouCeyE [0] (n=YouCeyE@vp089013.reshsg.uci.edu) 02.18.12 # blast it, my latest assembly creation turns music into R2D2. 02.29.55 Join AciD [0] (n=gni@unaffiliated/acid) 02.29.58 # hi 02.35.29 # bye 02.35.30 Quit Jungti1234 ("bye") 02.36.19 # as rockbox will be fully operationnal on ipod 5g and iriver h3xx (and I even saw that somebody's planning to port it to iaudio x5), what would be the best mp3 player to buy for christmas ? :) 02.38.45 # AciD: Depends what you want. 02.39.04 # iriver H140 is still nice if you only care about audio. 02.39.16 # YES! The first part of oggpack_look is now assemblified. 02.39.22 # I previously had an archos jukebox 6000, but it died few weeks ago 02.40.13 # fortunatly, I can afford any mp3 player 02.40.24 # so, I don't really know which one to take 02.40.29 # lostlogic: any speed improvement? 02.41.11 # at least one supported by rockbox for sure :) 02.41.17 # markun: a little, maybe 1% boost change, I haven't profiled it yet, I'm going to do the other half of this function and then profile, because basically I've only gotten 1/2 of the potential out of it because it's a big if-else and I did the if but not the else. 02.45.23 Quit chiller ("Eg gjer vel faen..") 02.47.09 # AciD: We can't guarantee it will be fully operational on an ipod 5g, but I'm certainly going to try. Audio support is an unknown factor at the moment. 02.48.05 Part linuxstb_ ("Leaving") 02.48.10 # so, if I had to choose between all the players supported (fully or partially) by rockbox, which would be the best ? 02.48.14 # the ipod ? 02.49.44 Quit actionshrimp ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") 02.54.06 Nick BoD[] is now known as BoD[Zzz] (n=BoD@JRAF.org) 02.55.24 Part BoD[Zzz] 03.02.37 Join San [0] (n=test@212.2.163.178) 03.05.06 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 03.05.14 Quit ghode|afk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.07.26 # AciD: In terms of Rockbox support, I would rank the non-archos targets as follows: 1) H1x0, 2) H3x0, 3) ipod Color/Photo and ipod Nano, 4) ipod Video (5g) 03.07.54 # and in term of functionnalities ? 03.08.15 # The H1x0 is very well supported by Rockbox, and the H3x0 has almost caught up. Both are fully-functional ports. 03.08.19 # including the ones that -will- be implemented in rockbox 03.08.48 # ok so I guess it's heading me toward h3x0 03.09.20 # Personally, I like the new ipod Video a lot, but Rockbox isn't a sure bet. 03.09.37 Quit bazz ("Leaving") 03.09.50 # I just read the ipodlinux website, ipod 5g's audio futur is...unclear 03.10.21 # I think it's just that no-one has investigated it yet. It could turn out to be a trivial change, or it could be very hard. 03.10.44 # on a design point, I'd prefer the ipod over the h340, but if you can't use half of rockbox features on it... 03.11.14 # I'm not sure I want to bet on that :) 03.11.23 # If you wait a few weeks, the status of the 5g will probably become clearer. 03.12.31 # surely 03.13.11 # In terms of number of hardware features, you still can't beat the iriver h1x0 as an audio device. But of course it's not suited for video. 03.13.26 Quit DangerousDan ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 03.14.15 # you mean h3x0 aren't better than h1x0 ? 03.14.23 # They are different. 03.15.01 # The h3x0 has a colour screen and usb-on-the-go. The h1x0 has digital i/o. 03.15.28 # I would expect the battery life to be longer on the h1x0, but that's only a guess. 03.17.12 # Anyway, time for bed. 03.17.15 # gn 03.27.21 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp16-adsl-71.ath.forthnet.gr) 03.34.45 Join Bluechip [0] (n=BlueChip@cpc2-colc1-3-0-cust143.colc.cable.ntl.com) 03.36.01 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-19-241-33.bna.bellsouth.net) 03.46.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.54.13 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.57.11 Join mymomthelush [0] (n=lush@bdsl.66.15.136.192.gte.net) 03.57.21 Quit mymomthelush (Client Quit) 04.07.08 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.31.24 Part Bluechip 04.44.19 Join mymomthelush [0] (n=lush@bdsl.66.15.136.192.gte.net) 04.46.26 Join ghode|afk [0] (n=garudin@host-84-9-107-42.bulldogdsl.com) 04.52.02 Part mymomthelush 04.58.07 Quit Rick ("I… don't need to be here.") 05.03.13 Join Rick [0] (i=rick@pool-71-108-9-40.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 05.04.36 Join Rob2222_ [0] (n=Miranda@ACB5C797.ipt.aol.com) 05.15.11 Quit AliasCoffee ("Leaving") 05.20.21 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.25.40 # anyone know the difference in execution penalty between jbge and bge? 05.32.59 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@58.77.81.144) 05.33.14 Join San [0] (n=test@213-202-148-175.bas502.dsl.esat.net) 05.39.50 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-19-241-33.bna.bellsouth.net) 05.42.42 Join San||Away [0] (n=test@A-94-59.cust.iol.ie) 05.46.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.48.38 # let's see if it plays music still! 05.49.22 # hi 05.50.17 # it plays music still. 05.55.02 Join bagawk_ [0] (n=lee@70-58-156-201.eugn.qwest.net) 06.02.37 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.06.02 Quit bagawk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.09.51 Join mymomthelush [0] (n=lush@bdsl.66.15.136.192.gte.net) 06.12.55 # 1.23% improvement to the most called function. 06.28.17 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=DarkkOne@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 06.30.14 Quit mymomthelush (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.37.10 Quit RotAtoR ("Leaving") 06.41.11 Quit YouCeyE (Remote closed the connection) 06.42.24 Join YouCeyE [0] (n=YouCeyE@vp089013.reshsg.uci.edu) 06.42.28 # ugh, I wish the writers of tremor had declared things that are unsigned as such clearly. 06.47.45 # yes! gained another percent-ish 06.48.15 Quit San||Away (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.06.58 # hi guys 07.07.21 # any good documents to start reading on programming embedded sys? 07.07.36 # u guys do real stuff right.. 07.07.42 # is it documented anywhere? 07.07.58 # i want to learn .. but want to read documents to get started 07.08.04 # and contribute later 07.08.07 # um 07.16.52 # hehe fine WPS: http://cafefiles.naver.net/data10/2005/12/20/190/%C6%F7%B8%CB%BA%AF%C8%AF_bg.gif 07.33.29 Nick bagawk_ is now known as bagawk (n=lee@70-58-156-201.eugn.qwest.net) 07.36.24 Join warewolf [0] (i=warewolf@warewolf.org) 07.36.27 # oh yaay 07.36.36 # rockbox for iriver h300 07.36.39 # * warewolf loves you guys 07.36.53 # rockbox is great 07.37.01 # I just donated $20 via paypal to say thank you! 07.37.19 # keep up the awesome work guys, thank you very VERY much! 07.37.19 # i did that too when we first got something working on the H1xx 07.37.39 # H320 or H340? 07.37.43 # h340 07.37.47 # how old now? 07.37.55 # the unit itself? 07.37.58 # yep 07.37.59 # a year old? 07.38.00 # maybe? 07.38.05 # just curious 07.38.12 # H140 here 07.38.23 # I already ripped it apart and fixed the USB OTG 07.38.26 # :) 07.38.30 # morning :) 07.38.33 # * warewolf is half decent with a soldering iron 07.38.41 # ah so i see you have an US version 07.38.47 # Yis. 07.38.49 # (fuckers) 07.39.02 # all H1xxs were the same except colour 07.39.06 # all H140s were black though 07.39.08 # I really hate iRiver for ripping that out of hte US version 07.39.23 # me too 07.39.34 # also: I really hated them for unbundling the h3xx in-line remote. 07.39.56 # there's a reason i got an H1xx after the H3xx came out 07.40.07 # not long after though 07.40.10 # they distribute a hard case belt clip that not only covers the screen, but also the buttons. Eg, they never intended to sell the unit w/o the remote. 07.40.28 # then they hit you up for $20 or whatever it was for the remote 07.40.38 # or $60 for an LCD remote 07.40.42 # in contrary with the H1xx 07.40.46 # which had a good case 07.40.48 # and LCD remote 07.40.52 # I forgot what I paid for the lcd remote 07.41.11 # I purchased _two_ because one broke (the damn thing split apart) 07.41.18 # ouch 07.41.25 # my H140 remote is like 18 months old 07.41.27 # no problems 07.43.19 # * warewolf tests crossfading 07.43.42 # oh sexy. 07.43.42 # gapless is my favourite feature :) 07.43.46 # oh yes. 07.43.55 # * warewolf donates another $20 07.44.02 # the WavPack support was nice for me too 07.44.11 # considering my entire lossless collection is WavPack 07.44.12 # though 07.44.27 # Vorbis aoTuV b4.51/Lancer -q6 for most of the stuff on my H140 07.45.18 # wow, DreamTactix291 :) 07.45.36 # very easy batch encode with foobar2000 07.46.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.47.13 # any idea how good the battery life is with rockbox on a h3xx? 07.47.13 Quit nathanh_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.47.18 Join nathanh_ [0] (n=wosjowj@220-245-216-23-act-pppoe.tpgi.com.au) 07.47.27 # what is crossfading? 07.47.29 # better/worse than the iriver firmware? 07.47.47 # YouCeyE: fade out one song just before it ends and fade into the next 07.47.55 # for 1xxs its better.. battery life 07.48.01 # probably worse right now on the H3xx 07.48.02 # oh ic warewolf 07.48.09 # H1xx is definitely better 07.48.33 # yes 07.49.06 # haha I have H100 07.49.08 # what more is there to complete for the h300 port? 07.49.20 # (Eg, is there anything I can test to help out) 07.49.37 # warewolf hehe 07.49.52 # USB host support (the biggest task) 07.50.05 # which i'm willing to help 07.50.07 # Video support 07.50.14 # lots of litle things 07.50.15 # yeah, that's the other one 07.50.23 # OOh! 07.50.27 # I happen to have a OTG cable 07.50.29 # so I can test 07.50.44 # What is OTG? 07.50.49 # USB On The Go 07.50.51 # On-The-Go 07.50.58 # basically it turns your USB peripheral into a computer 07.51.09 # warewolf, how do u like h3xx? 07.51.09 # What is On The Go..-_- 07.51.11 # so you can connect another USB peripherial into it, and sjuffle files around on it 07.51.14 # did u try h1xx? 07.51.20 # Jungti1234: USB Host 07.51.24 # hmm 07.51.37 # YouCeyE: I picked the H300 because it did not force me to use DRM crippled files 07.51.42 # It need not to speak that is OTG. 07.52.01 # YouCeyE: oh, and because it was just a USB hard drive, basically. Which means 100% linux support 07.52.06 # only feature i miss in 1xx is otg 07.52.20 # yeah these irivers are awesome 07.52.26 # but i like 1xx look 07.52.30 # solid look 07.52.31 # yeah but i like having the S/PDIF 07.52.33 # me too 07.52.34 # I've owned iRiver products for quite some time 07.52.36 # * DreamTactix291 loves his H140 07.52.42 # haha 07.52.45 # Do iPods have USB OTG? (Or, a chip that can support it with different software?) 07.52.48 # I don't like my H120 07.52.52 # no 07.52.58 # why not? 07.53.00 # It is old. 07.53.03 # Paul_The_Nerd, no 07.53.04 # and? 07.53.05 # Paul_The_Nerd: (not kidding) Don't know, don't care, I have my iRiver with rockbox :) 07.53.08 # that doesn't make it bad 07.53.14 # the H1xx are my favourite DAPs 07.53.17 # DreamTactix291 in fact the OTG of h300 could allow us digital output too 07.53.19 # * warewolf laughs his ass off :) 07.53.29 # true 07.53.30 # however 07.53.31 # any mods on irivers by u guys? 07.53.41 # my stereo doesn't have a USB connection 07.53.47 # but does have an S/PDIF connection 07.53.50 # so 07.53.53 # i want to mod the joy stick 07.53.54 # and no i haven't modded my H140 07.54.08 # my stereo doesn't have anything like this 07.54.08 # warewolf: I have an H120, but the iPod Nano appeals to me as a flash-base solution that will soon be Rockboxed. 07.54.48 # the nano as a flash player is fine 07.54.56 # My H120.. :) http://cafefiles.naver.net/data10/2005/11/25/192/DSCN2233.jpg 07.54.57 # Paul_The_Nerd: that would rock 07.55.09 # Paul_The_Nerd: I rather like having gigs upon gigs of disk space available though 07.55.17 # wow your paint is all chipped away 07.55.25 # kkk 07.55.25 # Paul_The_Nerd: the only thing I do w/ my iriver h340 is plug it into USB to charge it 07.55.36 # Paul_The_Nerd: I very rarely change what songs are on it 07.55.41 # warewolf: I love the space, but I'd rather have something that is more shake/impact resistant as well. 07.55.45 # i have some pics of my H140 07.55.51 # All paints came off. 07.55.57 # i don't think anyone who has at least semi-healthy brain could buy non-rockboxed device, once he/she had rockboxed one (except for porting the rockbox, of course) 07.56.04 # Paul_The_Nerd: what do you do, use a jackhammer? 07.56.13 # seriously 07.56.54 # I mean, I'm aware that I have a laptop hard drive in my pocket, and I do try not to have large solid objects run into it when it's spinning but laptop drives take something massive for G-forces when not spinning 07.56.57 # warewolf: It's more of a "I don't want to take my h120 jogging/etc because I know one day it will fail, and I'd rather have a unit designed for more active use. 07.57.12 # And my H320.. http://jungti1234.netcci.net/blog/attach/1125/051125212410313525/181029.jpg 07.57.14 # When *not* spinning is the key. 07.57.15 # and I assume that the rockbox firmware spins down the disk when it isn't in use 07.57.27 # of course 07.57.46 # Paul_The_Nerd: still, the g-forces accepted spinning are acceptable, aslong as you don't drop it 07.58.03 # Jungti1234: ... you .. painted .. your h3x0? 07.58.05 # warewolf you can even select the timeout after which the disk spins down 07.58.19 # warewolf: It's silicone case. :) 07.58.27 # woah 07.58.28 # bouncy? 07.58.36 # yes 07.58.39 # warewolf: you want to see my H140 in a silicone case? 07.58.40 # bwahhaa 07.58.46 # DreamTactix291: sure 07.58.48 # ah? 07.58.58 # Is H100 silicone case? 07.58.59 # warewolf: They still provide stress on it, even if they don't cause read-errors. The idea is that the H120 is for when I want access to all my music (Hotel rooms, car/train/plane trips, etc) and the Nano or other flash based player is for jogging / exercising / any situation in which an impact or in fact any stress might occur during buffering. 07.59.06 # Does it exist? 07.59.10 # Jungti1234, where to download that wps file? 07.59.37 # http://www.rhythmplanetno1.com/hosted/H140Pics/DSC00099.JPG <-- just a warning. the pic is large 07.59.39 # Paul_The_Nerd: I'm not disagreeing with you, I just don't think it's that great of a concern. To each his own I guess. 07.59.44 # YouCenE: http://cafe.naver.com/iriverh300/1058 07.59.49 # y :) 08.00.09 # It's big size. :O 08.00.13 # warewolf: My concern isn't for "now" it's for "ever." It's already hard to find a replacement H120. I want to make sure the day that I have to pick a replacement DAP is as far away as I can. 08.00.16 # hence the warning 08.00.31 # hehe 08.01.00 # I want to have that. 08.01.08 # Paul_The_Nerd: laptop drives are easy to come by though, or do the HXXX units have nonstandard drives in them? 08.01.32 # DreamTactix291: Is not white color? 08.01.43 # warewolf: Standard 1.8" Single platter for the 20s and two-platter for the 40s (and the 120s at least won't fit a two platter without removing some padding. 08.01.53 # Jungti1234: that's my blue one 08.02.07 # warewolf: 1.8" Toshiba drives 08.02.10 # Only one? 08.02.11 # It's easy enough to replace it. 08.02.20 # yeah 08.02.25 # that's what I presumed 08.02.39 # But I had a friend who's H120 died just because a purse was set on it particularly hard. And it was off. So I know there's *something* in there that doesn't handle impacts well. 08.02.43 # I'm working on a carpc mp3 player/gps nav project and I nabbed a 40gb WD laptop drive 08.02.44 # And it wasn't his HD. 08.03.05 # my H140 gets hooked up to the car most of the time 08.03.08 # http://cafefiles.naver.net/data10/2005/10/16/289/DSCN0574_1.jpg 08.03.31 # oh, the drives 08.03.36 # Jungti1234: thanks 08.03.40 # :) 08.03.52 # http://www.rhythmplanetno1.com/hosted/H140Pics/DSC00101.JPG <-- one out of the case 08.03.52 # Jungti1234: mine looked like the one on the left, which i presume is two-platter 08.04.01 # H340 is dual platter 08.04.08 # yah 08.04.29 # DreamTactix291: Can't I buy it? 08.04.37 # buy what? 08.04.50 # dream: nifty screenshot, how did you do the blue bars 08.04.52 # silicone case 08.05.14 # for H1xx? 08.05.15 # yeah 08.05.17 # iskin.com 08.05.18 # yes 08.05.23 # thanks 08.05.39 # you're welcome 08.05.54 # Good.. :) 08.06.09 # i managed to pick up all 5 colours 08.06.11 # so i change mine sometimes 08.06.17 # By the way, is no there H300? 08.06.37 # iskin doesn't make them for the H300 08.07.06 # hm 08.07.30 # Korean H300 users want silicone case. 08.07.46 # So, they do bulk purchase in abroad. 08.07.50 Join einhirn [0] (i=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 08.09.08 # hello 08.09.57 # I made wiki. :) http://jungti1234.netcci.net/wiki/wiki.php 08.09.58 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.10.31 # alrighty 08.10.35 # thanks again rockbox devs 08.10.40 Quit warewolf ("*BAMF*") 08.10.49 # bye 08.12.14 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 08.12.31 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.13.36 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 08.16.21 Join thegeek_ [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 08.16.22 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.16.38 Quit thegeek_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.18.44 Join Hooligan [0] (i=Hooligan@Node66-61-52-66.1dial.com) 08.20.12 # How hard would it be to add a feature or plugin that when, for example the file artist - title.mp3 starts playing it searches for artist - title.txt in the same directory and displays the contents in the viewer? 08.20.49 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 08.21.29 Join cbane [0] (n=courtney@pcp01538857pcs.huntsv01.al.comcast.net) 08.25.52 Join San [0] (n=test@213-202-149-181.bas503.dsl.esat.net) 08.28.20 # hooligan: pretty easy 08.28.51 # nathanh: I know just enough C to know that it's not that hard, but not quite enough to actually implement it. 08.29.09 # Back to studying, I guess. 08.29.39 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.31.05 # Though if anyone feels like taking the time down the road to do it in the meantime feel free to, haha. 08.31.18 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ipa138.7.tellas.gr) 08.31.41 # i know some C 08.31.49 # but not enough to actually program anything too complex 08.33.54 # I will come back. :) 08.33.56 Quit Jungti1234 ("bye") 08.36.48 # Question though: Would it be better/easier to make that a built-in function or a plugin? 08.37.32 # i'm not sure 08.40.36 Quit perplexity ("*whoomp*") 08.43.34 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.43.43 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-19-241-33.bna.bellsouth.net) 08.43.58 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=icechat5@pd95b7c08.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 08.51.09 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 09.11.15 Join georgeblunt [0] (n=georgebl@82.149.71.170) 09.29.00 Quit tvelocity (Remote closed the connection) 09.32.27 Part Paul_The_Nerd 09.43.51 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.46.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.48.38 Join iLyric [0] (n=irc@host86-128-159-158.range86-128.btcentralplus.com) 10.00.58 Quit Vladoman (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.01.32 Join Vladoman [0] (n=Vladoman@p54A7CB38.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.06.00 # * linuxstb has noise coming out of his ipod... 10.06.34 # has he? 10.06.40 # * Hooligan recommends holy water 10.06.41 # coherent noise? :> 10.06.45 # Almost.... 10.06.58 # this calls for a drink! 10.07.08 # Coffee! 10.07.11 # tea! 10.07.13 # coffee! 10.07.16 # If not several! 10.07.24 # Coftea 10.07.27 # hahah 10.07.35 # Blasphemy 10.07.38 # i just had two cups of coffee, so i'll stay off of that for the betterment of my stomach 10.07.53 # I can't stand coffee. 10.07.58 # oh, i can 10.08.00 # just not tons of it 10.08.22 # You can't beat espresso in the morning. 10.08.40 # IV caffiene drip? 10.09.02 # hahah 10.09.17 # might as well just drop amphetamine 10.09.18 # Nah, you need the taste of coffee stuck to the back of your throat. 10.09.38 # Real men simply don't sleep 10.10.32 # don't mention sleep 10.11.28 # haha, GREAT 10.11.29 # rain 10.11.40 # So, I'm trying to figure out how one would write a function or plugin that takes the file name of the currently playing track and searches for a file in the same directory with the same name, but .txt extension and displays the contents in the viewer. A lyrics plugin, in other words. 10.11.46 # I don't quite know enough C to do it though 10.11.53 # * Cassandra agrees with linuxstb - espresso is the gift that keeps on giving. 10.12.07 # Me, I'm out of beans so I'm on tea this morning. :( 10.18.48 # glorious tea 10.18.58 # at least i can drink tons of it without my innards exploding 10.19.20 # my throat in particular is fond of coffee, it seems 10.19.59 # linuxstb: anywho, how much code have you stuffed in? is there any risk of it making coherent noise today? 10.21.19 # I spent last night trying without success to get the fiq working. I've just tried writing audio data without using interrupts and noise happened immediately. 10.21.33 # so, have you got the fiq working? 10.21.38 # No. 10.21.39 # i assume you've set up stacks and such for it? 10.22.10 # Yes, but I could never get the fiq to happen. 10.22.31 # strange 10.22.34 # I'm assuming the code is different because IPL enable fiqs for the cop? 10.22.42 # yes 10.22.51 # they do some fancy stuff 10.27.52 # could you make me a diff or something? 10.27.59 # just to see if i can spot something 10.28.01 Part cbane 10.35.04 # preglow: It's a mess at the moment, but I can give you my tree if you want. 10.35.13 # (a patch I mean) 10.35.17 # * amiconn wonders why people prefer extended guesswork over checking documentation :/ 10.36.18 # Pass me the documentation on the PP5020 then :) 10.36.40 # you have that? sweet, my worries are over 10.36.49 # maybe we could buy PortalPlayer for the rockbox fund! ;-) 10.36.58 # haha 10.37.05 # send them a tenner and a request for docs 10.37.32 # linuxstb: Haha. I mean documentation that is available, like the rockbox manual, faq, wiki... 10.37.41 # "Dear Portalplayer, we'll gladly pay you the sum of 10 USD in exchange for your documentation." 10.38.04 # people prefer asking other people 10.38.13 # amiconn: You perfectly described my last 24 hours though. 10.38.22 # besides, most people have gotten used to never reading manuals 10.39.13 # perhaps that extends to reading other material as well :> 10.39.55 # It's tiring to answer the same questions over and over.. I mean things like this: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=2025.msg14923#msg14923 10.40.58 # hahahah 10.41.16 # amiconn: what does rockbox do?! 10.41.48 # I still think we need electric shock via IP. Simple conditioning should be enough to fix this. 10.42.10 # Nothing. The archos fm recorder / recorder v2 charging is hardware controlled, as it has a LiIon battery like the irivers 10.42.26 # Software controlled charging with LiIons would be dangerous 10.44.06 # I spend large chunks of time trying to make Rockbox so simple an idiot could use it, and they keep building better idiots. It's just not fair. ;) 10.44.23 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=2025.msg14923#msg14923 10.44.28 # sorry, spurious paste 10.44.32 # hahaha Cassandra :) 10.44.32 # * preglow reconfigures putty 10.44.55 # this is a rule, don't expect it to be otherwise 10.46.05 Quit iLyric (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.48.16 Join iLyric [0] (n=irc@host86-128-159-158.range86-128.btcentralplus.com) 10.54.17 # Does it push up my geek cool factor if I tell you that the guy who wrote PuTTY is a personal friend? 10.54.33 # (although given my email address, perhaps this shouldn't be a total surprise) 10.54.56 # geek + cool = does not compute 10.55.03 # * Bagder adds one to Cassandra's geek score 10.55.16 # nathanh_: sure it does 10.55.30 # nathanh_: geek = (nerd-dork)+cool 10.57.13 # That's how I've always thought about it. 10.57.23 # Or rather geeks are nerds with social skills. 10.57.41 # sorta 10.58.10 # i tend to think geek skills extend beyond nerddom, not necessarily limited to social 10.58.48 Quit Hooligan ("I shall return. (Booting into Linux :P)") 10.58.57 Join Sando [0] (n=lolsteam@techgaming.net) 11.00.10 # haha 11.00.41 # i'll just go to you if something about putty bothers me, then 11.02.30 Join Polo_o [0] (n=polo_o@82-69-160-166.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) 11.03.08 Join lamed [0] (n=d4b3395e@labb.contactor.se) 11.03.24 # Poor Simon. He scares me, every time someone discovers a buffer overflow (which has happened about 3 times in the history) he goes through agonies of doubt. 11.03.27 # morning 11.05.00 # somebody got a sound card on linux? 11.05.26 # Yes. It's not plugged into any speakers though. :) 11.05.30 # :- 11.05.40 # Sometimes I delight in unhelpful yet truthful replies. Sorry. 11.05.58 # I do 11.06.03 # and I even have speakers 11.06.36 # i've even got a rather posh one 11.06.40 Join moda [0] (i=modafrom@CPE-138-130-209-123.qld.bigpond.net.au) 11.06.49 # could you test out the sdl audio patch, i have no soundcard in linux 11.06.53 # what happened to color wps for the h300? 11.07.14 # moda: im doing the sdl patch first, so i can test gui changes without having to plug/replug my h300 11.07.24 # ok 11.07.35 # sdl? 11.07.52 # for the ui simulator 11.07.56 # oh 11.09.35 # well, the sound code looks like the one I wrote 11.09.40 # what's the difference? 11.09.48 # i havent posted the sound code yet :-) 11.09.49 # im still writing it 11.10.08 # there is sound.c etc in your sdl patch 11.10.08 # so you did 11.10.50 # preglow: This patch should give you stuttering audio: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/audio.diff 11.10.54 # nah, thats just x11/sound.c copied across, sdl/sound.c is still being written 11.11.02 # and how should the audio sound? 11.11.06 # perfect. 11.11.09 # i need somebody to test it though, so thanks for volunteering :-) 11.11.26 # But it stutters, and there is occasional white noise (but not too noisy). 11.12.27 # The stuttering is (I think) because I'm playing back the audio in the codec thread - so it delays decoding whilst the buffer is sent to the DAC. 11.13.23 # Does Rockbox play MIDI files these days, btw? 11.13.50 # well 11.13.51 # somewhat 11.13.56 # there's this plugin 11.14.38 # Plugin? 11.15.42 # yes 11.15.45 # it isn't a codec yet 11.16.08 # first of all, it's not that optimised, second of all, the playback system isn't ready for non-streaming codecs yet 11.16.35 # Does it sound good? 11.16.41 # decent 11.16.47 # depends on the sample set you use 11.17.02 # man, sometimes decompressing to the nano takes forever 11.17.05 # I'm developing a hankering for listening to some tunes from Monkey Island, which are of course only available in MIDI format. 11.17.16 # the example tune he used was the monkey island theme :) 11.17.26 # Where do I get a decent sample set? 11.18.16 # great! i can't paste with middle mouse because windows has hooked that! 11.18.57 Join Zagor [0] (n=bjst@194-237-150-170.customer.telia.com) 11.19.45 # ARGH 11.20.02 # preglow relax:P 11.20.05 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SoundCodecs 11.20.09 # near the bottom is midi 11.20.16 Join San||Away [0] (n=test@213-202-139-254.bas502.dsl.esat.net) 11.20.30 # preglow: Any luck with the audio? 11.20.39 # i'm _STILL_ waiting for the bloody unzippping 11.20.41 # i got a friend who can play all the monkey island songs on his midi keyboard 11.20.46 # he's freaky good 11.20.57 # he's also like 30 years old, so its kind of creepy :-) 11.21.02 # pft 11.21.31 # thirty = golden age of human 11.21.55 Quit iLyric () 11.21.57 # 30 yearolds are creepy, yes 11.22.02 # :-) 11.22.27 Join iLyric [0] (n=irc@host86-128-159-158.range86-128.btcentralplus.com) 11.22.45 # What's creepy about being 30? 11.23.06 # who's 30? 11.23.14 # the unspoiled youth and the innocense 11.23.20 # Just about the entire Rockbox core team. 11.23.30 # Well, in their thirties. 11.23.34 # hehe 11.24.22 # well, i'm near 030 :) 11.24.39 # I'm not even close to 0x30 11.24.48 # guys, a question. I see that ipod's simulator is up and running, but there's currently no ipod build over the download page. are the ipod builds running? 11.25.29 # hah 11.25.30 # Yes, but not stably enough that dailies are a good idea yet. 11.25.32 # * preglow has ipod audio 11.25.41 # Woohoo! 11.25.58 # now let's try to enable the cache and perhaps it'll be better 11.26.04 # the little i heard was completely decent 11.27.07 # 10x 11.27.42 # jeez, once the ipod croud get wind of rockbox working on the ipod, then woosh 11.27.50 # except, they already have ipod-linux 11.28.15 # linuxstb: for some reason, sound is quite crap with cache enabled.. 11.28.33 # everything sounds like cross between venetian snares and merzbow 11.28.34 # haha 11.28.52 # Strange. 11.29.06 # hahaha 11.29.14 # flac playback almost works completely 100% 11.29.21 # the sample rate is a bit wrong 11.29.27 # and there's the occasional static burst 11.29.44 # if ipod nano gets rockbox working, ill seriously buy one the same day 11.30.03 # well, i am listening to music on one as we speak... 11.30.12 # * nathanh_ curses credit card 11.30.17 # ok, i'll have to get one now :-) 11.30.18 # what's the older ipod model? (grayscale lcd)? nano? 11.30.29 # preglow: I have to go now. If you want to continue the audio work, then make sure you have the very latest audio.c from IPL - a bugfix was committed about 10 days ago. 11.30.30 # i assume you yourself saw my comments about static bursts, but hey 11.30.41 # linuxstb: yes, i update from time to time 11.31.00 # but i don't have time to code rockbox now anyway 11.31.34 # * iLyric Flips the switch too his desktop espresso machine 11.31.45 # mmmmmmm 11.32.05 # libmad seems to be in need for some cpr 11.32.07 # If you view the audio thread, then you will see the pcm buffer is always empty - even with WAV files. So that's obviously the cause of the stuttering. 11.32.54 # flac works perfectly 11.32.56 # wavpack as well 11.33.01 # that is 11.33.03 # You mean without stutters? 11.33.05 # the sound is good 11.33.09 # and the stutters are very small 11.33.47 # I want to test 24-bit playback. According to the codec datasheet it should be possible. 11.34.12 # The DAC can also handle all frequencies up to 96KHz. 11.34.20 # So none of this resampling nonsense. 11.34.28 # even aac works pretty nice 11.34.54 # well, our dac can also handle more frequencies than we can use 11.34.58 # that's not the problem 11.35.31 # I know. But IPL can use all the frequencies of the DAC - so there is no problem on the ipod. 11.35.37 # bagder: ive uploaded the sdl audio patch, could you please test? 11.36.13 # bbl 11.36.52 # Hmm. This nifty retractable iPod cable I bought seems to work, although it looks like it might violate several USB specs. 11.38.12 # * Cassandra giggles as she relises that the cable is bigger than the Nano is. 11.38.20 # retractable? 11.38.22 # wha? 11.41.52 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@labb.contactor.se) 11.44.22 # It's spring loaded. Have a look on eBay. 11.46.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.49.41 Quit linuxstb ("Leaving") 11.51.21 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 11.59.37 # is it _phisicaly_ possible to hold select and scroll forward the ipod's keypad? - it's seems to me by the simulator that the hardware allows that. 11.59.42 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@58.77.81.144) 12.00.27 # preglow: you have an ipod right? 12.00.36 Nick Lost-ash is now known as ashridah (n=ashridah@67.106.77.212.ptr.us.xo.net) 12.02.04 # yea 12.02.28 # if it's possible to hold select and simultaneously scroll the wheel? 12.02.55 # yea 12.03.39 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-55-132.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) 12.03.53 Join frankzkh [0] (n=frankzkh@219.235.233.114) 12.04.02 Join ratpack91 [0] (n=Chris@dmcda.free-online.co.uk) 12.06.53 # preglow? 12.07.46 Part frankzkh 12.09.20 # I came back! 12.10.54 # hahaha "Guru Meditation" 12.12.49 # lamed: yes, it is possible 12.12.57 # 10x 12.14.21 # Bger: isn't that an apple crash message or something along those lines? 12.14.34 # amiga 12.14.42 # aha 12.14.47 # amiga, that is 12.15.16 # also called "trip to india" haha 12.15.41 # heh 12.15.49 # that's the one. 12.15.57 # en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guru_Meditation 12.16.07 # http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guru_Meditation 12.17.58 # die gute guru 12.18.49 Join t3stament01 [0] (n=t3stamen@85.15.139.60) 12.20.45 # hahahaha 12.20.45 # http://todaysppc.dreamwiz.com/zb41/data/free/1134376993/1.jpg 12.21.28 # It's 'i-Bob nano' 12.24.30 Quit iLyric () 12.24.57 Quit San||Away (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.27.27 Join Moos [0] (i=Oliviaqo@m181.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 12.32.30 Join DrMoos [0] (i=ValdaxVM@m181.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 12.32.30 Quit Moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.32.38 Nick DrMoos is now known as Moos (i=ValdaxVM@m181.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 12.42.08 Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.47.49 Quit t3stament01 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12.49.33 Nick ashridah is now known as Lost-ash (n=ashridah@67.106.77.212.ptr.us.xo.net) 12.58.39 Join Petur [0] (n=d4efd6a6@labb.contactor.se) 13.02.15 Part LinusN 13.02.41 # Petur hi ;) 13.02.51 # hey 13.03.07 # could i ask you to edit the brightness patch ? 13.03.13 # sure 13.03.22 # what's with it? 13.03.53 # yesterday amiconn and LinusN decided that it's more suitable to be "backlight_brightness" 13.04.03 # I read that :D 13.04.35 # and maybe lcd_brightness should be backlight_brightness and should go in firmware/backlight.c ? 13.04.48 # you know what, I'll edit your edit of my patch ;) 13.05.11 # oki ;) i suppose it'll be easier 13.05.36 # I'll try to do it this evening... also have the pre-recording patch to submit (seems to be working here) 13.05.49 # i'll do some more work on the lcd driver 13.05.54 # nice 13.06.04 # did you try it ? 13.06.11 # not yet 13.06.21 # the power on is slow ... 13.06.34 # spent too much time yesterday hunting a stupid bug 13.06.38 # hehehe 13.06.57 # was using settings frequency in my calculation 13.07.20 # but it contains something like an index, not the actual frequancy :) 13.07.28 # (frequency) 13.07.29 # ah :) 13.07.47 # stupid 13.07.51 # of me 13.08.03 # stupid naming, more likely 13.08.18 # like lcd_brightness :) 13.08.47 # much more 13.13.34 # there aren't many commits being done 13.14.26 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@p54BD6DF9.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.15.23 # there will be 13.17.34 # I will try to get this recording stuff done before next week, as I'm off for a week (skiing) 13.17.51 # holiday! 13.18.04 # altogether nicer use of your time 13.18.31 # and I don't take a computer with me 13.18.42 # haha 13.18.45 # sure 13.18.52 # ok, my PDA 13.18.55 # :) 13.19.23 # Petur: PM 13.21.07 Quit mirak ("Ex-Chat") 13.23.51 Quit Petur ("CGI:IRC") 13.24.01 Join Petur [0] (n=d4efd6a6@labb.contactor.se) 13.24.38 # Bger: lost connection 13.24.43 # yes, i saw 13.27.20 # bye 13.27.24 # bye 13.27.30 Quit Petur (Client Quit) 13.31.00 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-129-242.pools.arcor-ip.net) 13.32.02 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.32.03 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@p54BD6DF9.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.32.10 Quit moda () 13.41.51 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@84.254.8.147) 13.43.03 Quit Rob2222_ () 13.46.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.49.06 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB5C797.ipt.aol.com) 14.00.01 Join San||Away [0] (n=test@212.2.171.117) 14.00.39 Quit `3nergy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.00.39 Quit Sando (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.03.13 Join `3nergy [0] (n=3nergy@techgaming.net) 14.11.14 Join Mongey| [0] (n=mongeyc@83-70-57-229.b-ras1.dbn.dublin.eircom.net) 14.13.12 Join Sando [0] (n=lolsteam@techgaming.net) 14.15.44 # anyone here? 14.16.27 # <_FireFly_> no ;) 14.19.27 # no one is here 14.21.27 # can someone put Kyle's h300 remote patch into the dailybuilds 14.21.36 # please 14.21.41 Join edx [0] (i=edx@p54A85320.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.21.53 # Bger, preglo 14.22.01 # oops, sorry 14.23.01 # i have got it on my h340 at the moment, but i want to change the lcd colour so...... 14.24.24 # amiconn, yes? 14.24.51 Part Sando 14.25.57 # Bger can you? 14.26.35 # w8 sec 14.26.46 # ty 14.29.46 Quit Rob2222 () 14.30.01 Join Sando [0] (n=lolsteam@techgaming.net) 14.30.10 Part Sando 14.30.32 Join Sando [0] (n=lolsteam@techgaming.net) 14.31.15 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.31.40 # Cassandra: There is a Midi plugin but right now it is unusable. 14.31.40 Quit Cassandra (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.31.41 Part Sando 14.31.58 # When the xxx2wav files were removed. 14.32.08 # ah too late 14.32.14 # Bger are you here 14.32.14 # Mongey| what patches 14.32.16 # ? 14.33.11 # Bger: You were mentioning something about the battery benchmark plugin yesterday.... 14.34.37 # yes, i am:) 14.34.58 # Ok what do you want me to change? 14.35.09 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB5C797.ipt.aol.com) 14.35.12 # did u see the link ? 14.35.25 # yeap 14.35.43 # i want do edit something 14.35.57 # You want the introduction cut off? 14.36.04 # ill send you it 14.36.04 # no, no:) 14.36.06 # or the resuming line? 14.36.24 # Or do you want the timer to continue if there is the log file 14.36.26 # i just gave you the link to see the results 14.36.49 # but there wasn't any changes were there any? :x 14.37.17 # could you give me the link once more. 14.37.24 # just a sec 14.37.33 # Maybe I forgot my own plugin layout :) 14.38.40 # :P 14.39.13 # Bger 14.39.17 # http://sourceforge.net/tracker/download.php?group_id=44306&atid=439120&file_id=159520&aid=1367824 14.40.12 # yes, Mongey| ? 14.40.34 # thats the patch 14.40.51 # ah ? 14.40.55 # isn't that my patch :P 14.41.11 # lol, is it? 14.41.29 # haha sorry bout that 14.42.19 # ok, ive gtg 14.42.28 # time to reboot 14.42.32 # in a min] 14.42.35 Quit Mongey| () 14.43.13 Join qwisp11 [0] (n=arnott_c@cpc1-oxfd4-4-0-cust172.oxfd.cable.ntl.com) 14.43.27 # afternoon all 14.50.27 # afternoon 14.51.14 # any one here used uC/OS-II? 14.52.04 # <_FireFly_> ratpack91what's that ?? 14.53.40 # real-time OS for microcontrollers. I'm using it for my uni project on an HCS12. trying to understand it. http://www.ucos-ii.com/ 14.54.02 Quit _FireFly_ ("Clap on! , Clap off! clap@#&$NO CARRIER") 14.54.27 # everyone has their own real-time OS 14.54.36 # Rockbox too! ;-) 14.54.50 # haha is RB RT-OS ? 14.55.00 # well, in a broader sense 14.55.06 # realtime for music at least 14.55.10 # most real-time OSes are just small OSes 14.55.24 # the "real-time" is often to be take liberally 14.55.28 # taken 14.55.29 Join webguest95 [0] (n=522e39b4@labb.contactor.se) 14.55.55 # well if you are using it to control the brakes on your car then real time means something 14.56.04 # of course 14.56.08 # haha 14.56.12 # but then you don't just trust their naming of the OS 14.56.16 # reaction in 2-3 secs ... 14.57.27 # that's why they need certification i guess. 14.57.41 # "stop securely and reboot" - actual error message from a Volvo S80 14.57.50 # what??? 14.57.54 # lol 14.57.54 # (although the message is in Swedish) 14.58.08 # the term wasn't actually reboot 14.58.16 # but stop and start again 14.59.06 # "i;m sorry the brake system is being blocked by the cd-player process, please wait" 14.59.31 # heh 14.59.47 # "there is internal error in the OS of your car, thus stopping immediately!" 15.00.24 Quit tvelocity (Remote closed the connection) 15.00.38 # i told you not to install rockbox on your car 15.01.30 # this would be very amazing message on a highway ... 15.02.31 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@84.254.8.147) 15.03.29 # really, the products for cars etc are passing really "horror" tests 15.03.31 Quit lamed ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 15.10.55 Quit Rob2222 () 15.13.53 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB5C797.ipt.aol.com) 15.16.24 Join tuxianer [0] (i=tuxianer@B4c38.b.pppool.de) 15.16.28 # hi 15.17.12 Join Mongey| [0] (n=mongeyc@83-70-57-229.b-ras1.dbn.dublin.eircom.net) 15.17.50 # Mongey| i'll commit the patch after some more work and a bless from the masters 15.18.02 # ty 15.18.07 # can you tell me som inofficial rbox plugins? 15.18.15 # Misticboys will be happy 15.18.43 # : whats the patch for? 15.19.05 # h300 remote 15.20.00 # nice 15.20.11 # i have a h120 what plugins are useful? 15.20.36 # remote would be nice 15.21.26 Quit tvelocity ("Leaving") 15.21.42 # amiconn ? Bagder ? any objections in making temporary setting "H100/H300 LCD remote" till we find out how to distinguish these ? 15.22.07 # there are many users with h300 LCD remotes ... 15.22.21 # is that a question? 15.22.28 # if so yes 15.22.51 # yes, it's a question 15.24.11 # yeah was, might still be the most wanted assecery 15.24.57 # Mongey|: "Yes" as to: "I've got an objection"? 15.25.13 # huh? 15.25.29 # Bger; look at the poll >>http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=17552&highlight=h300+lcd+remote 15.26.06 # Mongey|: I am kidding. 15.26.11 # Mongey|: "Yes" as to: "I've got an objection"? <<< does not compute 15.26.34 # Mongey|: It is just that Bger asked if there are any objections, and your answer was Yes 15.26.45 # Yes = there are objections. 15.26.57 # there were objections, btw 15.26.57 # No = there are not any objections 15.27.07 # amiconn said "no more options" ... 15.27.09 # :( 15.28.05 # bye 15.28.09 # bye, Jungti1234 15.28.13 # :) 15.28.14 Quit Jungti1234 ("bye") 15.28.43 # there are not any objections from me 15.29.18 # lol, i completely misread that 15.29.36 # Mongey| i said "the masters" which are the master/core developers: Bagder,LinusN,Zagor,amiconn 15.30.18 Join muesli__ [0] (i=muesli_t@Bc1f8.b.pppool.de) 15.30.27 # forget all my posts 15.30.35 # lol 15.30.43 # :P 15.30.49 # never mind 15.30.54 # except for the ones where i made sense 15.31.00 # i'm sure that if you have h300 lcd remote, u'll want the patch 15.31.28 # yep 15.31.32 # and i have one 15.32.47 # 1 question, not about Rb but... on my archos av560, 15.34.19 # when i connect it to my pc(xp sp2) it comesup as a removanle drive, fine so far, but when i go to explore it, nothind apperars, a box pops up and asks me to format it, 15.35.14 # hm 15.35.26 # does the unit work ok ? 15.36.13 # perfect 15.36.32 Quit ratpack91 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.36.34 # and is reconised when switched to MTP 15.37.10 # i can browse in MTP and copy in MTP(im backing all the music and videos up now) 15.37.37 # hm... 15.37.51 # then it uses some special file system or ... 15.38.07 # but it had worked before 15.38.21 # ... 15.38.25 # huh? 15.38.29 # before i upgraded to sp2 15.38.35 # very strange 15.38.47 # did you try the unit on other PC ? 15.38.56 # no 15.39.06 # none available at the moment 15.39.16 Part tuxianer 15.39.19 # really, i don't know this archos device 15.39.28 # but im backing everthing up 15.39.30 # kk 15.39.36 # very nice 15.39.41 # so it is 15.41.55 # bbl 15.46.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.49.23 Quit DocterD`idle (Remote closed the connection) 15.54.58 Quit Mongey| () 15.58.11 Quit qwisp11 () 16.11.07 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-149-130-100.bna.bellsouth.net) 16.14.30 Join RotAtoR [0] (n=user@24-231-249-25.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) 16.35.21 Join DCJoeDog [0] (n=44b874ec@labb.contactor.se) 16.35.40 # Any non-idlers about? 16.35.51 # úåï 16.35.53 # yep 16.36.04 # cool, maybe you can help me 16.36.21 # Have any idea where I can get the files for rockboy on iriver? 16.37.21 # peer 2 peer ... 16.37.33 # that is, on peer 2 peer networks 16.37.43 # aww man, is that the only way currently? 16.37.54 # except for legal ones ... 16.38.01 # to TPB with me then 16.39.01 # where can I find one of the legal ones then? 16.40.44 # search google. .. :( 16.40.49 # i can't tell you more 16.42.17 # ok, I guess 16.42.26 # been going thru google for a bit now tho 16.42.45 # and the only place that said they had a "recent build" of it didn't have it at all 16.43.26 # Is it not in the normal builds? 16.44.03 # DCJoeDog: are you talking about rockboy or gameboy roms? 16.44.32 # rockboy itself 16.44.48 # I don't need help for roms, I've ripped all my own games 16.45.07 # aaaaaa 16.45.11 # oh 16.45.12 Join PaulJ [0] (n=PaulJ@vpn-3090.gwdg.de) 16.45.32 # DCJoeDog it's built for h300 and h100 16.45.52 # u must put roms to your iriver with .gb extension 16.46.04 Join Mongey| [0] (n=mongeyc@83-70-57-229.b-ras1.dbn.dublin.eircom.net) 16.46.10 # in root? 16.46.15 # or a specific folder? 16.46.24 # no, where do you want 16.46.52 # So rockboy should just be in "Browse plugins" then? 16.47.02 # no, it's hidden 16.47.14 # grr 16.47.17 # lol 16.47.17 # but you will launch it when you "play" a file with .gb extension 16.47.35 # start flile thing? 16.48.23 # ahh, "open eith" 16.48.28 # err with 16.48.36 # thanks 16.48.47 # got rockbox 2 days ago 16.49.40 # np 16.49.54 # DCJoeDog, do you have a h300 16.50.18 # H320 16.50.56 # I was using 1.29k till I stumbled upon rockbox 16.51.07 # which I still switch back to for vid playback 16.51.07 # yeah cool, theres a Misticriver chat on zuh.net if you have any i-river questions 16.51.28 # Yeah, I found it on Mysticriver forum, rockbox that is 16.51.34 # thanks for the help 16.52.17 Quit georgeblunt (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Leading Edge IRC") 16.52.22 # yeah but if you have any n00b questions ask them on the misticriver chatroom 16.52.48 # Mongey|: thanks :) 16.53.12 # huh? 16.53.29 # For redirecting n00b questions to them :) 16.53.34 # yep 16.53.53 # more importamt stuff for here 16.53.53 # ugh, I hate the word n00b when it's spelled that way, but to each their own 16.53.57 Part DCJoeDog 16.54.20 # i just come here when nobodys on misticriver, lol 16.54.34 # most of my questions are non-rb related 16.55.05 # Anyone have a h1x0? 16.55.35 # (thats active) 16.55.49 # I have 16.56.17 # why? 16.56.48 Quit Kohlrabi ("Leaving") 16.58.12 # http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=33811 16.58.25 # i cant answer anything for him 17.00.09 # Mongey|: maybe a broken hdd? 17.00.19 Quit Moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.00.24 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m181.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 17.00.30 Join muesli- [0] (i=muesli_t@Bbcae.b.pppool.de) 17.01.08 # yeah thatswhat i thought 17.01.42 # don't know how far the iriver firmware gets without a hdd. 17.09.21 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.10.08 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 17.10.16 Join ratpack91 [0] (n=Chris@dmcda.free-online.co.uk) 17.15.26 Quit Mongey| () 17.16.05 # what's the difference between iRiver H340 and H340SE ? I can't info on google 17.17.37 # se comes with a remote, a different case and an external battery pack 17.17.38 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.22.20 # thx 17.30.44 # the "se"-version comes WITHOUT a remote and batterypack 17.31.09 Quit muesli- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.32.02 # oh yeah. 17.35.20 Join Midgey34 [0] (n=41623b4a@labb.contactor.se) 17.40.39 Quit Midgey34 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 17.41.36 Join yngwi [0] (n=chatzill@chello080109107064.1.15.vie.surfer.at) 17.43.38 Quit ratpack91 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17.44.41 Quit San||Away (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.45.17 Part Polo_o 17.46.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.47.07 Join ratpack91 [0] (n=Chris@dmcda.free-online.co.uk) 17.52.41 Nick Lynx_ is now known as Lynx_awy (n=lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 17.58.46 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A45F61.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.26.40 Quit YouCeyE (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.31.30 Join apgap [0] (n=apgap@0043a.umehus18.ac.se) 18.34.50 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! 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20.10.40 Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.69 [Firefox 1.5/0000000000]") 20.14.35 Join webguest23 [0] (n=d4b3395e@labb.contactor.se) 20.15.22 Quit webguest23 (Client Quit) 20.15.57 Join webguest23 [0] (n=d4b3395e@labb.contactor.se) 20.16.00 Quit webguest23 (Client Quit) 20.18.57 # Mmmm: decode the mp3 frame to raw 16-bit samples I guess. 20.20.05 # Heh heh.. how do you actually do that? can you do it with a wav file too ? 20.36.35 # WOW...it's really quiet here! 20.37.01 Quit apgap () 20.41.05 Join miner49er [0] (n=root@82-32-84-226.cable.ubr01.chap.blueyonder.co.uk) 20.45.52 # gah, why does a signed integer division cause a jbsr !? 20.50.43 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp11-adsl-98.ath.forthnet.gr) 20.54.00 Join Lear [0] (n=chatzill@h184n5c1o285.bredband.skanova.com) 21.02.21 Join Coldtoast [0] (n=edan@ppp110-153.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net) 21.02.28 # howdy 21.02.45 # I found a bug in rockbox for the h100 21.03.33 # I have a dir with about 220 mp3s in it and if I scroll the file list while I'm playing a track, the audio drops out fo a sec 21.03.48 # tested and it's definitely the scrolling that causes it 21.04.17 # seems scrolling kicks the cpu up 21.07.46 # a known bug 21.08.02 # hmm. ok 21.08.21 Join akaidiot [0] (n=nope@c-5846e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 21.08.27 # Tried adding a few yields() at strategic places? 21.08.37 # it doesnt kick the cpu up, thats the problem 21.08.43 # cpu stays at 45mhz the whole time 21.08.48 Quit akaidiot (Client Quit) 21.09.02 # ah. so scrolling swallows what little cpu there is 21.09.19 # well, sort of, the buffer refill thread will occasionally do a cpu_burst 21.09.22 # But the buffering code is responsible for upping the CPU once the audio buffer gets low. 21.09.42 # ok 21.10.42 Quit nathanh_ ("Quit") 21.11.17 # well, 7am means I should go to bed 21.11.21 Quit Coldtoast () 21.13.50 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-44-206.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.14.07 Join San||Away [0] (n=test@213-202-164-60.bas503.dsl.esat.net) 21.20.58 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A45F61.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.23.41 # w00t, I think I can asm optimize render_line and render_point in floor1.c with the eMAC unit. 21.25.19 # How? 21.28.29 Quit Mmmm () 21.47.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.47.31 Join petur [0] (i=petur@d54C1B62E.access.telenet.be) 21.52.30 Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.58.40 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@labb.contactor.se) 22.02.59 Quit akaidiota ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 22.03.08 Join akaidiot [0] (n=nope@c-5846e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 22.04.44 # LinusN: how are you time-wise? 22.06.26 # fine i guess ;-) 22.06.36 Join edx [0] (i=edx@p54A871FE.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.06.40 Join solexx_ [0] (n=jrschulz@d082150.adsl.hansenet.de) 22.13.23 Join memmem [0] (n=user@p54A20C33.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 22.16.51 Join matsl [0] (n=user@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 22.22.31 Join DocterD`idle [0] (n=DocterD@dslb-084-059-106-103.pools.arcor-ip.net) 22.22.34 Quit solexx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.22.44 # Lear: ok, I lied -- only on render_point -- eek, but I think I introduced some error, at least that's what the audio artifacts are telling me :( 22.23.30 # still fail to see where the mac would help... :) 22.23.59 # Lear: well I could be wrong about it, but I'm working on the math. 22.24.47 # Is there someone with cvs access here? 22.24.55 # y0+((y1-y0)*(x-x0))/(x1-x0) is render_point -- if it's foiled out, the MAC can help... but for some reason doing it that way caused artifacts. 22.25.09 # read/write, that is..! 22.26.03 # is their somekind of translation channel ? 22.26.16 # <_FireFly_> their ?? 22.26.19 # it would be cool, I have some things I don't understand on the web n english :) 22.26.22 # there 22.26.25 # <_FireFly_> ;) 22.26.36 # Don't pick your blemishes, because you'll get crazy scars on your chin like me. 22.26.42 # what means blemishes 22.26.47 # and chin 22.26.48 # ? 22.26.52 # Lear: do you know what the __divsi3 function does, and why to use it over divs.l? 22.26.57 # in the above sentence :) 22.28.20 # mirak: chin is above neck, below mouth, blemish is zit or pimple 22.28.23 # I don't see that code in render_point... :) 22.28.39 # Lear: it can be reduced to that 22.28.51 # lostlogic: zit or pimple ? is that colors ? 22.28.57 # <_FireFly_> no 22.29.28 # Can't say I know what divsi3 does, in detail, no... 22.29.33 # hmm what's that ? 22.30.08 # <_FireFly_> mirak: zit are litte red points in your face 22.31.05 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@chan530-a133.otenet.gr) 22.32.28 Quit actionshrimp ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") 22.32.30 # Looks like normal div, afaict... 22.32.44 # _FireFly_: acnea 22.33.03 # Lear: where'd you find it defined? 22.33.19 # <_FireFly_> mirak: yepp acne 22.33.45 # __divsi3 is one of the functions GCC maps the / operator to. 22.33.55 # in udivmodsi4.c, through divmod.c 22.34.00 # Lear: ty 22.35.28 # And someone tried to replace udivmodsi4 with the div instruction back in 2002... 22.35.38 # and it broke things? 22.37.04 # Doesn't seem like it, the guy had problems building it first, but looks like he found the reason. That's all the thread I found said... 22.37.28 # gotcha. hmm... wish I knew what's causing these artifacts then :( 22.44.25 # Bger: u there? 22.44.37 # signed vs. unsigned? (__divsi3 is the signed version.) 22.46.41 # memmem: I'm using divs.l 22.47.52 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 22.48.27 Nick Lost-ash is now known as ashridah (n=ashridah@67.106.77.212.ptr.us.xo.net) 22.50.02 Join paugh [0] (n=kickback@2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:8000:0:3e03:6822) 22.53.06 Quit memmem ("ERC Version 5.0.4 $Revision: 1.726.2.19 $ (IRC client for Emacs)") 22.53.46 Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.69 [Firefox 1.5/0000000000]") 23.03.52 Quit DocterD`idle ("Leaving") 23.08.25 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 23.18.37 # is it normal that you can only find iriver h10 mp3 players in europe, instead of h3x0 ? :o 23.19.25 # no 23.21.23 # well, i believe it is normal to not find any h300's in the shops 23.21.38 # there are many that claim they still have them 23.22.04 # pricerunner lists at least 4 claiming h340 23.22.13 # in Sweden alone 23.22.39 # possibly they can actually deliver 23.22.43 # can't 23.26.09 Join linuxstb [0] (n=5343d4aa@labb.contactor.se) 23.31.54 Quit webguest95 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 23.32.17 Quit tvelocity ("Leaving") 23.34.55 # the sdl sim looks promising 23.35.06 Join qwisp11 [0] (n=arnott_c@cpc1-oxfd4-4-0-cust172.oxfd.cable.ntl.com) 23.35.20 # you tried it? 23.36.08 # LinusN: Hmm, do I remember correctly that you got an IGP-100? 23.36.20 # no i declined the offer 23.36.36 # too busy 23.36.48 # There's one on eBay germany atm, but with a defective hard disk 23.36.51 # anyone gave a glance at the xvid plugin and check for some odd stuff or things I should have done in another way ? 23.37.10 # amiconn: how many igp's are there out there? 23.37.18 # I have no idea 23.37.30 # Probably less than H1x0 and H3x0 23.37.30 # i just want to know if it's worth the effort 23.37.33 # mirak: I looked at it, and compiled it for the ipod. It needed a little work before it would compile. 23.37.47 # But it seemed to decode at about 2fps 23.37.51 # linuxstb: oh nice. you have a ipod video ? 23.38.00 # linuxstb: yes that was that 23.38.05 # 2 fps 23.38.13 # I have access to two ipods now - a "Color" and a "Video". 23.38.13 # LinusN: I expect the hardware to be very similar to H1x0, except form factor and hard disk size 23.38.21 # 2 fps if you remove the saving to disk of the images 23.38.47 # But on the ipod, it crashed after frame #7 23.38.57 # linuxstb: maybe you could attach the modified code to the tracker 23.39.15 # I have no special rights on the tracker. 23.39.19 # linuxstb: you extended the PLUGIN_RAM or managed to strip it down ? 23.39.43 # amiconn: i guess so too 23.39.47 # linuxstb: you can't attach things on my thread ? 23.39.53 # I only briefly looked at it. I just set the PLUGIN_RAM to what you suggested. 23.40.03 # mirak: No, I don't think I can. 23.40.15 # linuxstb: you are registered I guess 23.40.28 # LinusN: Perhaps this IGP-100 doesn't go for much, since it has a defective hdd. Could be interesting. 23.40.32 # don't know if I can give you rights 23.40.54 # amiconn: sure, why not? 23.41.10 # linuxstb: maybe you can create a new thread and put your file in it. 23.42.00 # mirak: I may do. But as I said, I only looked briefly at it. I would like to spend more time on it though. 23.42.03 # linuxstb: the next step is to adapt the x86 assembly parts to coldfire or arm. I removed this files, but they are in xvidcore sources. We can know what it's worse optimising 23.42.13 # linuxstb: ok 23.42.55 # I would say the code need more cleaning first - fixing all the compiler warnings and deleting any encoder-related routines. 23.43.29 # ffmpeg have the advantage to already have arm asm optimisations for dct stuffs. maybe it can be reused, or maybe some dct code of the other codec can be reused as well 23.44.08 # linuxstb: I tried to fix some warnings, but I lack of C skills for most of them 23.44.14 # Well, xvid is an important codec, so I think it's worth implementing both xvidcore and the ffmpeg version in order to compare them. 23.44.47 # one thing I don't understand is that I don't have this warnings when doing a make for x86 23.45.00 # maybe gcc is compiled with different options 23.45.22 # That's possibly because you are using standard libraries and not rockbox. 23.45.38 # and different gcc versions 23.45.44 # Or are you talking about the sim? 23.46.04 # linuxstb: markun says he is willing to do it for ffmpeg. actually I am done with implementing a codec. at least for a momement. However I am ok to work on xvid 23.46.32 # Bger: still not there? 23.46.34 # linuxstb: no about H300. Actually I can't build the simulator it fails on lcd-h300.c 23.47.03 # well it fails on lcd emulation I mean 23.47.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.47.11 # x11? 23.47.48 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@58.77.81.144) 23.48.39 # mirak: Try the Win32 sim, it works 23.49.08 # You can do that on linux too, the sim is working under wine 23.49.15 # amiconn: but I can't build it 23.49.21 # why? 23.49.21 # quite a painful job 23.49.22 Join nathanh [0] (n=ca7d0006@labb.contactor.se) 23.49.28 # mirak: What distro? 23.49.32 # amiconn: ubuntu 23.49.44 # If it's debian, there is a mingw crosscompiler package... 23.49.53 # "apt-get install mingw32" 23.49.57 # ok 23.50.09 # apt-get is bad, prefer aptitude install 23.50.12 # or better yet, try the sdl sim 23.50.21 # apt-get is king 23.50.46 # the advantage of aptitude is that when you remove a packet, it removes the unusused dependencies 23.50.50 # that's why I use it 23.51.00 # I don't use the aptitude UI though 23.51.03 # Paprica: u there? 23.51.05 # it's crap 23.51.16 # mirak: Ok, then use aptitude :) 23.51.37 # i also recommend the sdl sim :-) 23.51.55 # nathanh: did you see my comments? 23.51.56 # linuxstb: well for me it was a revelation to know that it could care of unused dependencies :) 23.51.59 # yep 23.52.02 # I noticed Linusn's comments on it 23.52.04 # linusn: no 23.52.16 # Wah, really few H3x0s on eBay, and they tend to go higher than new ones :( I hope this will get better after xmas 23.52.33 # LinusN: ? 23.52.55 # Paprica: you're Ben, right? 23.53.06 # amiconn: Are you looking to buy a new DAP? 23.53.34 # right =] 23.53.40 Quit qwisp11 () 23.53.45 # i'm about to commit your solitaire patch 23.53.51 # * amiconn wants to asm optimise the lcd driver, and a better (button-wise) iriver than the H1x0 23.53.53 Join webguest77 [0] (n=dcfd3e8c@labb.contactor.se) 23.54.02 # OK =] 23.54.29 # if it's ok with you 23.54.59 # the h3x0 is slightly better button wise, imho 23.55.07 # and lcd 23.55.14 # the rest is the opposite 23.55.21 # linusn: i see your comments, i'll correct those problems tonight and post a new patch 23.55.24 # its ok for me 23.55.25 # What rest? 23.55.25 # =\ 23.55.34 # nathanh: great! 23.55.43 # amiconn: the plastic feeling, the size 23.55.55 # the switching off the lcd all the time 23.56.00 # the h300 feels bulky 23.56.09 # Bagder: Imho the H3x0 is *much* better button wise 23.56.16 # amiconn: you tried any? 23.56.26 # Yes, in a shop 23.56.28 # Bagder: I don't like the directional pad of the h300, I must use my nails to push it 23.56.32 # * linuxstb has fallen in love with the 30GB video ipod. 23.56.44 # i have a question about colour wps, i've been thinking about this and i think i have a "quick fix" that will do most of what people want 23.56.55 # whats the possibility of getting colour glyphs into the font rendering code? 23.57.03 # The LCD is color, which is worse usage-wise, but technically interesting 23.57.32 # nathanh: everything is possible, but you'd need some interesting hack or a new font format 23.57.41 # amiconn: do you think it's really worth to rescale the colors instead of bit cutting ? 23.57.47 # the h300 lcd is very good imho, crystal clear 23.57.47 # i have a semi-working patch to load and display colour bitmaps (%xd) but the fonts are the killer 23.58.00 # amiconn: I mean performance wise I heard that coldfire sucks with floats 23.58.13 # mirak: it isn't floats 23.58.25 # mirak: any cpu without fpu sucks with floats 23.58.25 # mirak: Huh? What does the pixel value scaling have to do with floats?? 23.58.30 # LinusN: yes, I am always amased when watching a video or images 23.58.34 # And it's also mostly done at compile-time