--- Log for 22.12.105 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 4 days and 8 hours ago 00.01.15 Join gromit` [0] (n=gromit`@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 00.01.43 # hi 00.03.08 Join jaebird [0] (n=jaebird@03-210.netblk-38-96-210.coolaccess.net) 00.03.12 # was wondering if this plugin could be optimised for the h300 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&group_id=44306&aid=901816 00.06.32 # Why may not I become connection to sourceforge? 00.08.23 Quit Paul_The_Nerd ("Leaving.") 00.14.43 # oh alarm? 00.14.56 # what? 00.15.03 # linuxstb_: so, you got some sleep code coming up, or? 00.16.34 # the plugin is now 450ko and fit with the standart plugin ram size preglow 00.16.41 # good 00.17.05 # maybe having it display something would attract some people to improve it 00.17.12 # oh yes 00.17.14 # that's for sure 00.18.19 # so...... can it be done 00.19.01 # preglow: Yep, just about to commit now. It's just a simple write to one register in the pcf50605. 00.19.15 # linuxstb_: btw, am i the only one getting the odd glitch with the clichwheel 00.19.16 # ? 00.19.32 # sometimes when i scroll, the cursor will skip back one notch 00.19.37 # before continuing as usual 00.19.38 # Yes, I've seen that. 00.19.42 # hmm, ok 00.19.45 # i wonder why that is 00.19.48 Quit Jungti1234 ("bye") 00.19.57 # i did remove some code from the ipl driver that i just didn't see the need for 00.20.09 # preglow: how close is the ipod nano port... you got reliable audio? 00.20.18 # nathanh: no, but audio 00.20.27 # linuxstb_: i see it now, it's a crossover issue at the top of the wheel 00.20.44 # bah, i'm too stupid 00.21.47 # and another patch: H300 brightness - see https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1387627&group_id=44306&atid=439120 00.22.08 # nathanh: linuxstb has hacked in preliminary audio 00.22.15 # We don't seem to have a button combination mapped to shutdown though. Guess I need to enable the HAVE_SW_POWEROFF define. 00.22.16 # nathanh: so we get skippy audio 00.24.03 # crap I think I removed some usefull things 00.24.04 # lol 00.26.20 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=jborn@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 00.28.56 # My latest Tremor optimizations: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1387611&group_id=44306&atid=439120 If anyone wants to test boost levels between CVS and that patch, it'd be helpful to verify that profiling results match real world results. 00.30.13 # lostlogicx 00.30.16 # probably Lear 00.30.49 # lostlogicx;would you be able to alter that plugin 00.32.35 # preglow: Just committed. 00.33.10 # ogood 00.33.15 # i'll do a fix for the wheel problem now 00.33.17 # then i've got to go 00.33.23 Join bazz [0] (n=nick@mail.uwcaw.uwc.org) 00.34.24 # It's nice to finally be able to switch the ipod off. 00.34.41 # so, i'd like to check in/submit what i have of the sdl sim. it works on linux and mostly on windows, although there needs to be some hackery to configure and the makefiles to make it build all the way on windows. it doesn't step on the win32 or x11 sim, so no functionality is lost. how would/should i go about doing this? 00.35.00 # Submit a patch to the patch tracker. 00.35.24 # OT: any tip for capturing and converting a RealAudio stream under windows? 00.35.27 # linuxstb_: does that allow for all the new files i need to add? 00.35.33 Quit RotAtoR (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.36.49 # Yes, patches can include complete new files. I think you need the -N option to diff 00.37.13 # linuxstb_: nod, i'll figure it all out 00.37.19 # I'm not an expert, but I'm sure someone here can help with the necessary diff command if you have problems. 00.37.57 # So we'll have three sims with your patch? X11, win32 and sdl? 00.38.04 # linuxstb_: yes 00.39.18 # err 00.39.24 # ive already got an sdl sim patch up on sourceforge 00.39.45 # then now we've got two! 00.40.10 # nathanh: ohh, no one told me :) does it support all the players and sound and stuff? 00.40.17 # not sound, but all the players yes 00.40.29 Quit ender` (" Theorem: a cat has nine tails. Proof: No cat has eight tails. A cat has one tail more than no cat. Therefore, a cat has n") 00.40.30 # i dont have a soundcard so i wrote the code, but i cant test it, apparently sound didnt work 00.41.12 # hrmm, okay, i wonder if it's worth me sumbitting the patch then 00.41.16 # it sure is 00.41.22 # do so 00.41.24 # i'll nick all the best bits of yours, and you'll nick all the best bits of mine 00.42.17 # okay, so did you just cvs diff for the stuff you changed in existing code and then zip up all the new files? 00.42.36 # originally yes, but then i used "cvs diff -u" followed by "diff -uN >>" 00.42.41 # to get a single patch file 00.42.42 Quit perplexity (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.43.11 # i would like to see how you handled the surface zooming problem 00.43.15 # my solution is horribly inefficient 00.43.38 # mine doesn't do surface zooming :( 00.43.56 # well thats ok, because my zooming is awfully slow 00.44.06 # i think we need to butt heads and work out how to do it better 00.44.36 # mine is like the windows sim in that is draws the image of the player, so zooming is tricky 00.44.46 # ooo, i dont have the images of the players 00.44.52 # but i wanted that feature 00.45.09 # i thought one way to do it would be to use an offscreen surface which is zoom=1 00.45.15 # they are in the win32 sim dir 00.45.22 # then use one of the bitmap drawing sdl functions to zoom for us 00.46.01 # nod, i didn't realize this was a desired feature, i'll start thinking about it 00.46.21 # * nathanh keen to see bazz's patch :-) 00.46.36 # it'll be submitted soon 00.48.45 Join perplexity [0] (n=joust@cdj379.emirates.net.ae) 00.50.17 # linuxstb_: so how do i switch it off now? 00.50.44 # You can't yet. But the idle poweroff works. 00.50.49 # okiedoke 00.51.03 # I'm just testing it now on the 5g..... 00.51.07 # how does retailos go to sleep, again? 00.51.10 # nathanh: what's that zoom thing ? 00.51.17 # preglow: Long press on play 00.51.30 # mirak: ./rockboxui --zoom 3 00.51.51 # I've mapped that to stop in the wps, so I'm thinking the same combination for poweroff 00.52.09 Join dropandho [0] (n=dropandh@24.193.36.91) 00.52.12 # nathanh: what do you use to zoom ? 00.52.21 # sup all! 00.52.34 # mirak: what do you mean 00.52.41 # nathanh: the algorithm 00.52.51 # the UI is borken on my computer 00.52.56 # read the patch :-) 00.53.46 Join YouCeyE [0] (n=YouCeyE@vp089013.reshsg.uci.edu) 00.53.50 Quit mirak (Remote closed the connection) 00.56.52 # nathanh: so, you checked out the cvs code somewhere and then diff -uN mycodedir cvscodedir? 00.57.20 # bazz: thats right 00.58.39 # if you cvs diff and then diff -uN doesn't that create entries twice for changed existing files? 00.59.48 # my second diff was only on uisimulator/sdl 00.59.58 # nathanh: clever :) 00.59.58 # because i didnt really have a full cvs checkout 01.01.04 # Mmm. Seems the ipod is the only target with software power-off, but no OFF button... 01.01.10 Part LinusN 01.01.44 # linuxstb_: testing it out now 01.02.05 # I'm relieved to report it works fine on the 5g as well. 01.02.21 # yeah, saw 01.02.41 # how do you open these bloody buggers anyway? 01.02.45 # there are no screws, no nothing 01.02.47 # hammer 01.02.54 # you can fix everything with a hammer 01.03.02 # i can destroy anything with one 01.03.13 # Guitar picks do the job, or so I've read. 01.03.21 # cool 01.03.22 # * preglow tries 01.04.12 # seems jazz 3 is a bit too thich, heh 01.04.13 # thick 01.04.58 # linuxstb_: poweroff works, lcd dims gradully over about thirty secs 01.05.11 # linuxstb_: where it first gets corrupted, just like if i had reset it 01.06.21 Join NicoFR [0] (n=nico404@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 01.06.23 # But does it power back on? 01.07.33 # yeah 01.07.35 # apple logo and all 01.07.46 # which reminds me, that doesn't happen for retailos, does it? 01.08.15 # Not immediately. It goes into a "light sleep" first, and then a deeper sleep after a long time in light sleep. 01.08.23 # ahhh, alright 01.08.33 # which resets it completely, just like this, yes? 01.08.38 # Yes. 01.09.04 # The light sleep probably just powers off the peripherals and slows the CPU down to the minimum. 01.09.18 # hohoh 01.09.29 # guess who's going to entertain himself with bejeweled during the flight 01.09.57 # Sorry I couldn't give you music to go with your bejeweled... 01.10.06 # i'll be alright 01.10.38 # with some luck, i might even survive the ordeal 01.11.50 # i wish i knew what the cache issue was 01.12.08 # When you disconnect your ipod from Windows, does it reboot? 01.12.25 # In Linux, it stays in disk mode. 01.12.31 # no, doesn't 01.12.41 # it stays in disk mode, unless i rewrote the boot part 01.13.07 # Yep, I read someone say on #ipl that it will reboot if you write to the first 32MB of the disk. 01.14.02 # man, these things really do scratch a bit too easily for my tastes 01.14.13 # i've been careful with the bugger, and the backlight doesn't look like shit 01.14.17 # backplate 01.15.19 # * petur tries to find a scratch on his H340 01.15.48 # my h120 looks realy nice 01.15.50 # really 01.18.39 Part PaulJ 01.20.28 # but i've got to start thinking about sleep 01.20.56 # my h340 is made out of scratchidium, the most scratchable element in the universe 01.21.06 # i reckon the only holding it together is the crisscross pattern of scratches 01.21.27 # preglow: Any objections to a long press on play for the power-off? 01.21.35 # linuxstb_: none 01.23.00 Join HypnoticMonkey [0] (n=522788bc@labb.contactor.se) 01.23.15 # but ok 01.23.19 # Hi 01.23.19 # i've gotta go 01.23.25 # bye all 01.23.36 # bye. 01.23.49 # How far off is recording from line-in / external mic on the h340? 01.24.52 # i heard it was working already ?! 01.24.52 # is available 01.28.41 Quit Moos ("Rockbox?... The best ;)") 01.29.28 # WTF? did a rebuild after CVS update and recording no longer works - could be my patch :( - testing CVS build now 01.29.47 # is it normal the peak meter doesn't seem to work anymore in recording mode on h300 ? 01.30.30 # no - I'm seeing the same thing 01.31.23 # and also it crashes when I stop a recording 01.31.46 # one moment, testing bleeding-edge build to rule out my stuff 01.33.00 # AAARGH... something has broken recording :( 01.33.14 # maybe it's the LCD DMA thing? 01.33.51 # or the fix that enabled recording from line in ? 01.34.18 # nah, that just toggles the mux pin 01.34.36 # ie selects the correct analog input 01.34.50 # internal mic doesn't work as well 01.35.01 # ok 01.35.38 Join Nepbaland [0] (i=Nepbalan@sml13-1-82-232-135-217.fbx.proxad.net) 01.37.05 # I'm currently using daily 20051220. I can record with the internal mic, but not line in. 01.37.47 # Linus fixed that on that date in the evening 01.38.49 # I'm downloading the previous LCD driver to check if that caused it... 01.40.42 # "it wasn't me" 01.40.42 # ! 01.40.51 # ...building... 01.43.21 # yep that's it 01.43.34 # works just fine with the old LCD driver 01.46.13 # this is 320 or 120/140? 01.46.32 # H3xx 01.46.48 # H1xx should be fine 01.46.54 # how come the LCD driver can brake recording ? 01.47.02 # break* 01.47.33 # because it now does DMA, and so does the recording... 01.47.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.48.14 # have sent it on the dev mailing list, I hope Linus picks it up soon 01.49.02 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-59-123.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) 01.49.05 Quit YouCeyE (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.49.48 # salut mirak 01.50.07 # got to get some sleep 01.50.10 # goodnight 01.50.21 # good night 01.50.25 Quit petur ("here today, gone tomorrow") 01.50.39 Join San [0] (n=test@194.125.99.20) 01.52.06 # mirak c'est toi "ilaglisser" sur le forum HFR ? 01.53.01 # NicoFR: shut 01.53.26 # pourquoi ? 01.53.43 # t'es moderateur sur HFR ? 01.53.49 # non 01.54.01 # je me suis fait ban d'un sous forum 01.54.12 # lol 01.54.41 # enfin sur un topic je me suis pris le choux avec un modo 01.54.50 # enfin c'etait en pv plutot 01.54.52 # ^^ 01.55.09 # NicoFR: pkoi ? 01.55.24 # j'ai vu que tu parlais de ton plugin qui "lit" les XviD 01.56.08 # ouais 01.56.18 # j'ai reussit a le reduite 01.56.21 # reduire 01.56.38 # mais y a des structures de donées plutot grosses defineies en static 01.56.49 # càd il lit plus vite ? 01.56.50 # genre 250ko pour un tableau ça fait un peu big ! 01.56.56 # non du tout 01.56.56 # ah oui 01.57.03 # c'est pour le faire tenir dans rockbox 01.57.06 # là ça tient 01.57.08 # just 01.57.25 # c'est pas pres d'aller plus vite je pense 01.57.32 # il faudrait de l'assembleur 01.57.46 # ok 01.57.55 # si ça te tente ... 01.58.32 # pas trop non... déjà que je suis pas à l'aise en C... 02.00.32 # je pense pas qu'il puisse faire mieux que ce qu'on fait iriver ce plugin 02.00.39 # c'est des malades 02.00.49 # là c'est 2fps 02.00.52 # laisse beton 02.00.54 # lol 02.01.04 # ^^ 02.01.07 # je voulais voir bah on est fixé maintenant 02.01.32 # l'idée d'attendre 25fps est vraiment tres éloignée 02.01.35 # atteindre 02.01.58 # irréaliste en fait 02.01.59 # ton plugin il affiche les images décodées à l'écran ? 02.02.10 # non que dalle 02.02.16 # il peut sauver en fichier 02.02.35 # ça serait pas dur a faire mais 2fps c'est vraiment pas interessant 02.02.38 # what happened here?! 02.03.07 # je me demandais s'il était pas ralenti par le driver LCD qui est encore lent 02.03.13 # enfin y a aucune optimisation en même temps 02.03.18 # pas d'iram 02.03.23 # pas d'assembleur 02.03.40 # mais bon la vidéo fait juste 270x176 en plus 02.03.49 # dropandho: french happened, apparently :-\ 02.04.07 # I will try to put the image on screen to attract some people 02.04.07 # oui oui! 02.04.54 # it's him who started to speak french ---> dropandho . That's not my fault 02.04.56 # we were talking about his xvid decoder 02.05.00 # hem NicoFR 02.05.05 # sorry about that 02.05.10 # :D 02.05.14 # ;D 02.06.49 # maybe others who know ASM will be intersested and will look into it 02.07.04 # and maybe one day it'll reach 10 fps :D 02.07.10 # mirak- it's ok...i was being dramatic! 02.07.21 # so what needs to be looked into? i know someone who knows ASM 02.07.22 # hehe 02.07.46 # well first, get xvidcode 02.07.49 # * lostlogic knows asm, but is not planning to leave Tremor-land for the moment ;) 02.07.49 # the xvid decoder needs optimisation 02.07.51 # a lot 02.07.52 # xvidcore source 02.08.22 # you will see where are localised the asm optimisation for x86 02.08.32 # btw what is tremor exactly ? 02.08.38 # a decoder ? 02.08.38 # that's probably where we should start to convert to coldfire 02.08.42 # NicoFR: vorbis 02.08.47 # ok 02.09.21 Quit miner49er ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.11") 02.09.23 # i saw we got a 2-3 % cpu gain 02.09.31 # ? 02.09.32 # so that means more batt life on ogg- ya? 02.10.08 # yes 02.10.21 # wooo 02.10.38 # we dont have any complete batt stats these days- do we? 02.10.51 # like stuff comparing running it with the remote and all that 02.11.19 # I don't think so 02.11.33 # and is anyone working on a color JPEG viewer ? 02.13.48 # not that i know of 02.14.05 # for what? 02.14.22 # we really should update the todo page 02.14.38 # cause i am pretty fuzzy as to why we are waiting on an offical iriver release 02.14.47 # we actually need a runtime battery stat collector to recreate battery runtime estimates. 02.15.00 Quit HypnoticMonkey ("CGI:IRC") 02.15.49 # nathanh: request id 1387679 is my patch 02.16.34 # oh and what is sdl ? 02.16.46 # will someone edit a plugin? the alarm one that linked earlier 02.17.40 # ? please 02.17.50 # NicoFR: http://www.libsdl.org 02.18.25 # thanks 02.18.38 # np 02.18.52 # :( anyone? 02.18.54 # lostlogic is that a known need or is someone workin on that? 02.19.03 # time to sleep 02.19.05 # good night 02.19.18 Quit NicoFR () 02.19.18 # i think it would be a great benchmark so we can see if any work people do helps or hinders the bat life 02.19.33 # and can offer a nice comparison to iriver 02.20.29 # dropandho: it's a known feature of the old firmware that we don't have... don't think it's something epople are working on though. 02.20.49 # bummer 02.21.19 # i feel like we really need someone to get in and update- http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverStatus 02.21.26 # the release roadmap 02.21.36 # so these things are out on the table 02.21.49 # you have a wiki account, right? :-P 02.21.52 # dropandho: Go ahead :) 02.21.59 # dropandho; for what dap? 02.22.49 # I'm pretty happy though, with my opts and today's patch by Linus for the LCD update speed, I'm down to about 41% boost playong my Q7 oggs 02.22.49 # iriver 120/40 in specific 02.23.01 # and 320 and 340! 02.23.03 # i can setup a wiki account...i just dont know these low level things 02.23.07 # most of the stuff is common 02.23.32 # i am not in the know....so i cant adjust these items 02.24.34 # lostlogic; hear what happened to misticjeff 02.24.41 # Mongey|: no, what happened??? 02.24.52 # #misticriver, his mam 02.25.18 # *nod* sucky. 02.25.33 # =[ 02.26.42 # Mongey|: I personally don't think that plugin is the way to go - I would prefer to implement a sleep/wakeup alarm in the core of Rockbox. 02.28.13 # linuxstb_; yes that would be nice in the future but since that plugin is there and could be short term or w/e 02.28.42 # how come the website doesn't flaunt how many people have downloaded various build or bootloaders...it might help to build confidence 02.30.10 # linuxstb_: I am trying to write to lcd, what I do is just : 02.30.11 # memcpy(rb->lcd_framebuffer,out_buffer,XDIM*YDIM*BPP); 02.30.11 # rb->lcd_update(); 02.30.25 # that should work, right ? 02.32.28 # No - BPP will be 16 and the number of bytes is XDIM*YDIM*2 02.32.49 # Unless you meant bytes-per-pixel 02.32.56 # In which case, yes, it should work. 02.33.04 # What's the problem? 02.33.40 # no BPP is set to two 02.33.46 # yes 02.33.52 # I test a bit more 02.34.15 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.34.58 # Have you set xvid_dec_frame.output.csp to XVID_CSP_RGB565 ? 02.35.22 # my god it works 02.35.26 # linuxstb_: yes 02.35.49 # That's awsome 02.35.52 # mirak; what does it do 02.36.01 # an awsome first step 02.36.03 # lol 02.36.11 # for videos? 02.36.17 # h3x0? 02.36.18 # it reads an mpeg4 stream 02.36.25 # and outputs it on screen 02.36.32 # w00t 02.36.34 # at the incredible frame rate of 2 02.36.37 # h3x0 02.36.40 # yes 02.36.47 # nice one 02.40.15 Join ehntoo [0] (n=ehntoo@24-177-166-0.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) 02.45.47 # hello, seems my irc connection still logs into rockbox by default - lol 02.46.15 # I see the ipod guys are in ...how's it going? 02.49.05 # blech. the screen just cracked on my H120 02.49.06 # It's going well. We're quite close to getting audio playback working. 02.49.18 # anybody have some advice? 02.49.50 # linuxstb_: well done guys - what about the interface - or was that just simple code tweaking? 02.49.55 # I just put $140 into it a couple months ago for a new battery and a new harddrive, even 02.50.04 # mirak 02.50.14 # time to install my ebay battery! 02.50.18 # ehntoo: do newmp3technology do iriver parts? 02.50.40 # Bluechip, I have no idea 02.50.41 Quit Nepbaland ("—I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— 2.0 Build 3515") 02.51.09 # ehntoo: then that is my suggestion - check their site and if they do, buy one and replace the borken one :) 02.51.11 # Mongey|: ? 02.51.24 # Bluechip: If you're talking about the UI, then it was just a matter of adding ipod-specific button mappings everywhere. Plus of course the 16-bit colour LCD code, but amiconn did most of the work on that, and it's shared with the h300. 02.51.58 # linuxstb_: fantastic ...amiconn is a worthy alli in such matters 02.52.02 # curse our ISP's dns servers. It's been taking 10-30 seconds for lookups 02.52.02 # I am a bit disapointed by the cpu power, I though H300 had more gas than that. My powermac 120mhz can read that xvid stream on linux without a problem ;p 02.52.35 # mirak; so it plays movies 02.52.57 # very slowly but it does, right? 02.53.12 # yes 02.53.16 # cool 02.54.30 # hrm... no luck for replacement iriver stuff at newmp3technology. 02.54.36 # mirak: so why is the 124mhz coldfire so much slower than your powermac 120? 02.56.18 # lostlogic: the cache maybe 02.56.30 # the H300 drive is way faster on the opposite 02.56.44 # pipeline? number of transistors used per op? 02.56.47 # hmph, nod 02.57.11 # the mac have a 3G scsi hard drice that's doing a hell of a noise, and slow as well 02.57.52 # the ppc is risc. It's supposed to be as fast a intel 200mhz probably 02.58.18 # problem also is maybe the slow ram and iram stuff 02.58.35 # don't know 03.01.09 Quit mirak ("Ex-Chat") 03.25.54 Quit Bluechip () 03.26.54 Quit jaebird ("Leaving") 03.29.05 Join DJDD_ [0] (n=DJDD@220-245-186-182.static.tpgi.com.au) 03.38.28 Quit dropandho () 03.41.22 Join YouCeyE [0] (n=YouCeyE@vp089013.reshsg.uci.edu) 03.46.57 Join DrumRBoy32O [0] (n=Drumrboy@ool-44c20ff1.dyn.optonline.net) 03.47.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.57.28 Quit DrumRBoy32O () 03.57.54 Quit bazz (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04.03.59 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@62.1.234.98) 04.09.17 Quit ehntoo ("Leaving") 04.09.37 Join San [0] (n=test@213-202-138-162.bas502.dsl.esat.net) 04.14.19 Join ehntoo [0] (n=Mitch@24-177-166-0.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) 04.39.01 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81.178.147.139) 04.46.12 Join RotAtoR [0] (n=user@24-231-249-25.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) 04.55.29 Quit ehntoo ("Leaving") 04.55.54 Quit TCK ("I shall not cease!") 05.05.36 Join Zak1392 [0] (n=zkeeping@CPE-144-137-199-238.sa.bigpond.net.au) 05.07.27 # hey guys 05.07.50 # hi 05.10.04 # what's everyone up to? 05.10.32 # nvm 05.10.44 # u? 05.11.01 # not much, just got out of the shower 05.12.28 # just read about video playback 05.12.32 # 2 fps 05.12.57 # lol 05.13.36 # nice ;) 05.13.42 # to bad mirak isn't here 05.13.48 # *too 05.16.44 Join grantashman [0] (n=grant@CPE-203-51-52-29.nsw.bigpond.net.au) 05.16.52 # Hey all. 05.17.20 # hey 05.17.32 # What's happening? 05.18.02 # not much 05.19.14 # I read video is coming along? 05.19.27 # Baby steps :) 05.20.13 # 2fps 05.20.17 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.23.19 # It's a start. 05.23.29 # Not that video is the most important feature, still nice though. 05.30.52 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB69EC5.ipt.aol.com) 05.37.58 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.38.16 Quit Mongey| () 05.39.13 Quit grantashman ("Leaving") 05.47.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.53.51 Quit Zak1392 () 06.26.02 # Oh, anyone know if rockbox will support whatever sort of RTC is in the iRiver H300 series? 06.26.27 # (why is it that certian iRiver firmwares don't support the clock, and some do? *boggles*) 06.41.41 Join nathanh_ [0] (n=ca7d0006@labb.contactor.se) 06.56.46 Join pabs [0] (n=pabs@xor.pablotron.org) 07.02.36 Quit perplexity (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 07.03.20 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@58.77.81.144) 07.03.42 # heh 07.05.50 # Jungti1234: hello :) 07.05.58 # hi bagawk 07.10.28 # new iriver 07.10.29 # http://product.iriver.co.kr/detail.asp?cateIdx=2&prdCode=d20 07.10.33 Join |u|smooth [0] (i=Lildre@c-71-198-136-200.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 07.10.45 # Dicple 07.12.49 Join San [0] (n=test@194.125.76.179) 07.14.05 Quit XavierGr (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.05 NSplit kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 07.14.05 Quit Jungti1234 (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.05 Quit akaidiot 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Quit Rick (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.05 Quit ze (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.05 Quit `3nergy (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.05 Quit phaedrus961 (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.05 Quit bagawk (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.05 Quit ghode|afk (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.05 Quit novimon (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.05 Quit elinenbe (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.05 Quit Nilisco (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.05 Quit t0mas (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.05 Quit dwihno (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.05 Quit goa (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.05 Quit merbanan (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.05 Quit ashridah (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.05 Quit lostlogicx (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.06 Quit crash__ (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.06 Quit linuxstb_ (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.06 Quit amiconn (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.06 Quit pill (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.06 Quit actionshrimp (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.06 Quit edx__ (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.06 Quit thegeek (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.06 Quit Vladoman (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.06 Quit Nibbler (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.06 Quit vHs_ (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.06 Quit DreamTactix291 (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.06 Quit Sando (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.06 Quit Strath (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.06 Quit Bger (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.06 Quit Lynx_ (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.06 Quit crwl (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.06 Quit Seed (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.06 Quit slowcoder (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.06 Quit AciD (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.06 Quit wubbla (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.06 Quit CoCoLUS (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.06 Quit Bagder (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.06 Quit Kingstone (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.14.22 DEBUG EOF from server (Success) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 545) 07.14.22 *** Cleanup 07.14.22 *** Cleanup 07.14.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.14.22 *** Exit 07.14.22 *** Started Dancer V4.16 07.14.22 DEBUG connect(2) failed on socket 3 (Connection refused) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 150) 07.14.22 *** Connected to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 07.14.22 *** Logfile for #rockbox started 07.14.43 *** Server message 501: 'logbot :Unknown MODE flag' 07.14.43 Mode "logbot :+i" by logbot 07.14.44 Join logbot [0] (n=bjst@193.15.23.131) 07.14.44 Join 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"irc.freenode.net", line = "#rockbox :Seriously, we DO NOT estimate dates. You'll find out when it happens.") 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Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )' 07.17.09 # christ 07.17.09 Join Strath [0] (n=mike@dpc674681214.direcpc.com) 07.17.11 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 07.17.11 NJoin `3nergy [0] (n=3nergy@techgaming.net) 07.17.15 Join pill [0] (i=pill@cybercrimi.nl) 07.17.15 NJoin San [0] (n=test@194.125.76.179) 07.17.17 # can freenode please stop breaking their !@#$ network 07.17.21 NJoin elinenbe [0] (i=elinenbe@207-237-225-224.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 07.17.26 Join slowcoder [0] (n=jaja@mail.skrodahl.net) 07.17.29 Join bagawk [0] (n=lee@70-58-156-201.eugn.qwest.net) 07.17.29 NJoin dwihno [0] (n=dw@81.8.226.44) 07.17.30 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-154-187-151.bna.bellsouth.net) 07.17.32 *** Server message 505: 'logbot :Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )' 07.17.34 NJoin ghode|afk [0] (n=garudin@host-84-9-107-42.bulldogdsl.com) 07.17.39 Join actionshrimp [0] (n=NNSCRIPT@host86-136-16-34.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) 07.17.40 Join Rick [0] (i=rick@pool-71-108-9-40.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 07.17.42 *** Server message 505: 'logbot :Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )' 07.17.47 NJoin t0mas [0] (n=Tomas@unaffiliated/t0mas) 07.17.49 NJoin goa [0] (i=hd@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 07.17.52 Join ashridah_ [0] (n=ashridah@67.106.77.212.ptr.us.xo.net) 07.17.55 Join banan_ [0] (i=banan@dalink.campus.luth.se) 07.18.03 # nope 07.18.44 Join Vladoman [0] (n=Vladoman@p54A7F2AB.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.19.27 Join preglow [0] (n=thomjoha@hekta.edt.aft.hist.no) 07.19.31 Join pabs [0] (n=pabs@xor.pablotron.org) 07.19.31 Join Naked [0] (i=naked@naked.iki.fi) 07.19.34 Join crash [0] (n=crash@a15167580.alturo-server.de) 07.19.36 NJoin novimon [0] (n=novimon@a84-230-230-239.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 07.19.44 Nick Naked is now known as Hadaka (i=naked@naked.iki.fi) 07.19.45 Quit |u|smooth ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 07.19.48 Join vHs [0] (n=vincent@speelplaats.net) 07.19.50 Join crwl [0] (n=crawlie@karu.kekkola.jyu.fi) 07.19.55 Join wubbla [0] (n=wubbla@adsl-041.202.166.194.arpa.as1901.net) 07.20.37 # Hadaka: why do you change eng-jap? 07.21.34 # kk 07.22.26 Join |u|smooth [0] (i=Lildre@c-71-198-136-200.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 07.24.07 Quit Rob2222 () 07.28.14 Quit RotAtoR ("Leaving") 07.32.03 Nick ashridah_ is now known as ashridah (n=ashridah@67.106.77.212.ptr.us.xo.net) 07.32.03 Quit nathanh_ ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 07.34.46 # hmm.. http://www.kmobile.co.kr/report_img/21883.jpg 07.45.10 # morning :) 07.51.21 # morning, Bger :) 07.51.38 # ;) 07.52.35 # How are you? 07.53.26 # sleepy :P 07.53.34 # hehe.. 07.54.02 # I had gone to the Supreme Court today. 07.54.20 Join perplexity [0] (n=joust@ldd035.emirates.net.ae) 07.54.23 # wow, why :) 07.54.27 # perplexity :) morning 07.54.36 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.55.06 # To watch. 07.55.48 # to watch a suit ? 07.56.37 # no 07.57.10 # Learned by observation. 07.58.02 # aah, okay 07.58.11 # :) 08.04.00 Join Sando [0] (n=lolsteam@techgaming.net) 08.05.17 # O_O morning Bger.. my client appears to have connected unbeknownst to me :) It's always a suprise 08.06.24 Quit goa (brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08.06.24 NSplit brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 08.06.24 Quit Slasheri (brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08.09.25 NHeal brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 08.09.25 NJoin goa [0] (i=hd@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 08.11.27 NJoin Slasheri [0] (i=miipekk@ihme.org) 08.18.42 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 08.29.25 Quit nathanh ("Leaving") 08.29.41 Quit akaidiot (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.39.56 Join Membrillo [0] (n=sam_kill@CPE-144-131-86-7.nsw.bigpond.net.au) 08.40.14 # Hey kids 08.40.35 Join Zak1392 [0] (n=zkeeping@CPE-144-137-199-238.sa.bigpond.net.au) 08.42.26 Quit Zak1392 (Client Quit) 08.47.17 # mooning 08.48.33 # its 648pm here 08.48.47 # why are you even awake in the morning *yawn* 08.48.55 # hehe :) 849am in germany 08.49.04 # gees... you must be eager 08.49.13 # i got up at 130pm today haha 08.49.31 # oh, the joys of being a teenager in school holidays 08.49.58 # hehe amiconn :) mooning 08.50.31 # amiconn : regarding iriver remotes 08.51.17 # did you read my talk yesterday with _FireFly_ ? 08.51.18 # Membrillo: just wait till you're unemployed, you'll have all year to get up then then :) 08.51.41 # thats the life for me 08.52.00 # its like looking into a crystal ball into my future 08.52.32 Quit Membrillo () 08.55.29 Join nathanh [0] (n=wosjowj@220-245-216-23-act-pppoe.tpgi.com.au) 09.14.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.17.15 Part Sando 09.28.30 Join San [0] (n=test@213-202-172-122.bas504.dsl.esat.net) 09.46.22 Quit nathanh ("Quit") 09.51.01 Join petur [0] (n=d4efd6a6@labb.contactor.se) 09.59.49 # petur ;) 09.59.59 # goodmorning 10.00.18 # moin 10.00.33 # finally done my patches ;) 10.00.41 # ah, really ? :) 10.00.56 # * petur points to tracker 10.01.23 # brightness :) 10.01.47 # and pre-recording... 10.02.10 # and also found out that the LCD optimization broke recording on H3xx 10.02.18 Join Vlad0man [0] (n=Vladoman@p54A7EE53.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.02.47 # what? 10.02.52 # how's that 10.03.10 # * petur points to forum, mailing list and IRC log between 1 and 2 am 10.03.10 # you mean the DMA opt ? 10.03.14 # yep 10.03.25 Quit Vladoman (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.03.40 # I'm afraid this is for LinusN :( 10.03.47 # yes... 10.05.35 # oh, you've commented heavily the code ;) 10.06.49 # did I? 10.07.20 # it's ok:) 10.07.38 # what patch are you talking about? 10.08.21 # the only thing i wanted to say is that the last patches have more comments than previous ones 10.09.20 # oh right 10.09.29 # I just downloaded the lastest h300 rockbox 10.09.39 # where the heck is the backlight brightness stuff? 10.09.41 # I couldn't find it 10.10.19 # no, it isn't 10.10.40 # there 10.10.50 # it's not in the cvs builds yet 10.11.05 # oh 10.14.38 Join HCl [0] (i=hcl@titania.student.utwente.nl) 10.18.18 # petur : do you set the brightness explicitly somewhere ? 10.18.29 # apps/settings.c: settings_apply() 10.19.06 # yes, why? 10.19.28 # default setting should be 9 (50%) 10.19.48 # ah, yes, i saw it :) 10.20.05 # that was missing from the previous patch 10.20.32 # i had problem with this yesterday, that's why i'm asking you 10.20.50 # I found out it didn't apply it after loading the settings at startup... 10.21.03 # should work now 10.21.41 # yes, i had the same problem with my work yesterday .. 10.21.49 # :D 10.30.43 # petur did you edit the .patch file (brightness) manually ? 10.31.02 # could be... not ok? 10.31.32 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@83.67.212.170) 10.32.01 # patch: **** malformed patch at line 129: @@ -538,3 +544,12 @@ 10.32.08 # grrrr 10.32.20 # yes :( 10.32.38 # petur : PM 10.35.24 # bbl 10.35.33 Quit petur ("CGI:IRC 0.5.7 (2005/06/19)") 10.44.31 Quit perplexity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.56.46 # hello 11.06.36 # wb, Jungti1234 11.07.05 # IRC is silent. 11.07.25 # * Bagder drops a needle 11.08.14 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=icechat5@pd95b7c08.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.10.35 Quit linuxstb ("Leaving") 11.11.03 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-128-209.pools.arcor-ip.net) 11.14.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.16.50 Join ratpack91 [0] (n=Chris@dmcda.free-online.co.uk) 11.19.21 Join PaulJ [0] (n=PaulJ@vpn-3051.gwdg.de) 11.24.24 # *pling* 11.25.41 # (wow, either that needle has fallen from very far above or gravity in IRC is exceptionally low!) 11.28.54 # 5 km 11.29.02 # Erm, wrong :) 11.35.56 # 5:07 to 5:24, 17 minutes. 11.35.57 # so 11.36.14 # 17 minutes is 1020 seconds 11.36.15 # any objections in commiting the h300's LCD brightness patch ? 11.36.38 # if gravity accelerates objects at a rate of 32.2 feet per second per second, then that needle fell from a distance of ... 11.36.57 # fuck if I know. 11.37.01 # my math isn't taht good. 11.37.16 # ~5000 km, but gravity isn't constant about such long distances 11.37.35 # amiconn ? 11.39.14 # but the needle was light and air resistance more limiting factor :) 11.39.39 # Slasheri: do you think that's air you're breathing now? :) 11.40.14 # hehe 11.40.25 # hmm 11.42.43 # warewolf: s = 0.5 * a * t^2 with a = g = 9.81 m / s^2 and t = 1020 s 11.43.03 # amiconn: I was just looking at http://www.uh.edu/engines/epi1534.htm 11.43.03 # heh 11.43.37 # you probally took physics in school. I didn't. 11.43.57 # I decided I need to go into the IT industry and actually learn a paycheck, and dropped out of college. 11.45.49 # 5000 km is 3106 miles. Damn that's far. 11.46.25 # that's almost a third of what I drive my car in a year. 11.48.00 # * warewolf considers blackholing 60.224/13 from his mail server 11.48.26 # conclusion: you could have saved a year minus 17 minutes if you had gravity propulsion :) 11.48.58 Join nathanh [0] (n=wosjowj@220-245-216-23-act-pppoe.tpgi.com.au) 11.52.16 Join igor47 [0] (n=igor47@temple.src.uchicago.edu) 11.53.15 Quit _FireFly_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.00.30 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m181.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 12.00.49 Join root [0] (n=root@82-32-84-226.cable.ubr01.chap.blueyonder.co.uk) 12.05.01 Quit root (Client Quit) 12.06.21 Join root [0] (n=root@82-32-84-226.cable.ubr01.chap.blueyonder.co.uk) 12.06.21 Join JazzBone [0] (n=Miranda@cc829402-a.groni1.gr.home.nl) 12.07.06 # oh man 12.07.08 # please don't irc as root 12.07.13 # that's just asking for trouble 12.07.56 # heh 12.09.21 Part root 12.10.26 Join root [0] (n=root@82-32-84-226.cable.ubr01.chap.blueyonder.co.uk) 12.12.57 Part root 12.17.24 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=icechat5@pd95b7c08.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 12.19.08 Join miner49er [0] (n=miner49e@82-32-84-226.cable.ubr01.chap.blueyonder.co.uk) 12.21.51 # hey there guys, can someone answer an IRC related question for me please? 12.22.12 # ask 12.23.27 # okay, I registerd my nick last night but, naughty naughty, I was logged into my machine as root. I've logged in sensibly as a user, but I need to re-register my nick...i think, as i can't send private messages 12.24.19 # you should never log to your machine as root (at least not from any window manager). Instead you should use su - 12.25.14 # I know, I know. but what can I do now with regards to this IRC thingy 12.25.38 # miner49er: registering doesn 12.25.50 # 't record the ident your machine is using 12.26.16 # so just identifying again should work (/msg nickserv identify ) 12.26.48 # ashridah: Okay, well why when I opened up my IRC client, as user miner49er did it say nick already registered? 12.26.54 # 12.27.00 # becazse you did last night 12.27.00 # that didn't do anything 12.27.08 # enter your password there 12.27.15 # okay, do I need to log in with my passoword somehow then? 12.27.23 # identify 12.27.31 # Kohirabi: where dude? 12.27.39 # /ns identify YOURNICK YOURPASSWORD 12.27.48 # <_FireFly_> "/msg nickserv identify " 12.28.07 # err 12.28.08 # no 12.28.14 # Just password I think? 12.28.18 # As parameter 12.28.24 # /ns identify YOURPASSWORD 12.28.25 # <_FireFly_> yepp 12.28.30 # <_FireFly_> "/msg nickserv identify " 12.28.46 # bye~ 12.28.56 Quit Jungti1234 ("bye") 12.29.20 # works, miner? 12.31.09 # it works now, i just want a nice quick way of doing it now...automatically 12.31.17 # cheers everyone :-) 12.31.41 # w00t, my first (ever) commit didn't make red builds :) 12.32.00 # Congratulations 12.32.19 # and now brightness setting for H300 in cvs 12.32.19 Part miner49er 12.32.52 Join miner49er [0] (n=miner49e@82-32-84-226.cable.ubr01.chap.blueyonder.co.uk) 12.33.03 # <_FireFly_> miner49er it depends on you irc-client 12.33.18 # KSirc is what i'm using 12.33.25 # I think! 12.33.30 # <_FireFly_> modtly you can define an command or a list of commands which gets executed when you are connected to an irc-server 12.33.34 # <_FireFly_> mostly 12.33.35 # congrats on the commit Bger! 12.34.09 # <_FireFly_> Bger was you yesterday with the new button-assignment for the remote of h1xx/h3xx 12.34.12 # <_FireFly_> ? 12.35.13 # yes, i am :) 12.35.18 # i'm working on it 12.35.19 # :) 12.35.34 # 10x, Bagder 12.35.43 # <_FireFly_> maybe i was a bit fast with may no against the new one 12.35.47 # <_FireFly_> my 12.35.58 # why ? 12.36.02 # did you tried it ? 12.36.30 # <_FireFly_> after i had played with it a bit longer it isn't so bad as i thought 12.37.01 # _FireFly_ i don't have such remote and i can't tell anything ... 12.37.11 # <_FireFly_> only the vol-up/down should be switched 12.37.17 # <_FireFly_> for the h1xx-remote 12.37.42 # <_FireFly_> so when you press vol-down on this remote the cursor moves up 12.37.43 # hm... 12.38.13 # isn't this just a matter of habbit ? 12.38.41 # <_FireFly_> true :) 12.38.45 # i mean 12.38.57 # if this is the only problem ... 12.40.00 # hm, i should post a question @ misticriver 12.40.14 # to get more opinions 12.40.26 # <_FireFly_> yepp 12.40.40 Join Denzil [0] (n=93a2f1c8@labb.contactor.se) 12.42.08 # hi everyone 12.42.13 # hi, Denzil 12.42.20 # I'm webguest80 12.42.30 # here I have the link 12.42.38 # I was talking about yesterday 12.42.44 # http://micronasnit.com/ 12.42.48 # ah, yes :) 12.43.02 # dunno which nationality the site is 12.43.03 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-59-123.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) 12.43.16 # but it looks like a university course or such 12.43.49 # I'm quite sure we have all that info already 12.44.40 # so you got the instruction set... 12.44.47 # I think we do, yes 12.44.56 # this is czech or poland or such 12.45.01 # well, ok, nothing new then 12.45.15 # slavic for sure :) 12.45.34 # ok, that's all 12.45.36 # gotta go 12.45.40 # see you! 12.45.45 # Denzil bye & 10x 12.45.48 # "University of Belgrade" 12.45.57 # haha ok :) 12.45.59 # owns the IP at least 12.46.19 Quit Denzil ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 12.46.24 # ok, serbian :) 12.46.45 # * Bger didn't guess the language of his neighbours ... 12.46.53 # hehe 12.47.12 # in fact, i can read this pretty easy 12.47.35 Quit miner49er (Remote closed the connection) 12.48.42 # Bagder so the following is known already: http://micronasnit.com/AADSP/Downloads/MASdoc.zip 12.49.02 # I think so. I'm not personally that involved in the MAS hacking 12.49.28 # there are even examples ... 12.49.49 # (serbian: "Primeri") 12.49.50 # well, we even have code from Archos I believe 12.49.56 # for the wav stuff 12.50.05 # not the code, only binary ... 12.50.07 # afaik 12.50.18 # hm, yes that might be right 12.50.20 # the code is in hex in one array 12.50.24 # hrm, i think when theres blood on the guitar strings, it might be time to take a break 12.50.34 # ok, maybe more arrays :) 12.52.26 Join Zak1392 [0] (n=zkeeping@CPE-144-137-199-238.sa.bigpond.net.au) 12.52.41 # hey guys 12.54.44 Join miner49er [0] (n=root@82-32-84-226.cable.ubr01.chap.blueyonder.co.uk) 12.54.54 Part miner49er 12.59.27 Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.59.34 Quit nathanh ("Quit") 13.01.45 Join Weazel_ [0] (n=kweetnie@cc126458-a.frane1.fr.home.nl) 13.01.48 Join perplexity [0] (n=joust@cdj379.emirates.net.ae) 13.01.59 Join petur [0] (n=d4efd6a6@labb.contactor.se) 13.02.28 # Bger: congratulations on the commit! 13.03.06 # what commit? 13.03.19 # brrrrightnesssss ;) 13.03.27 # oh, that 13.03.30 # pretty cool 13.03.55 # i have mine on 5 13.04.32 # Bger: shall I remove the patch from the tracker? 13.07.19 # Bger: nevermind, I did already... 13.08.38 # Bger: btw, you need to remove yours (1379581) 13.09.26 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@host213-123-154-169.in-addr.btopenworld.com) 13.10.35 # petur: Have you looked at any other features of the pcf50606 apart from the backlight power? I was wondering if the standby mode and wakeup-on-RTC-alarm features would would on the h300. 13.10.43 # s/would would/would work/ 13.10.57 # haven't, but I could ;) 13.11.31 # petur ah yeah :) 13.11.40 # yes, remove it, yes, i'll remove (close) mine 13.11.51 # linuxstb: but it will be for next year... 13.12.11 # linuxstb i can look at them next week :P 13.12.15 # but i don't promise 13.12.41 # I don't own a h300, but I'll be implementing something similar on the ipod's pcf50605. Which is why I mentioned it. 13.12.59 # linuxstb yeah, i know 13.13.16 # I was also looking at the gain setting for recording because I'm not convinced we're using all available gain and mixer settings 13.14.07 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@p54BD6228.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.14.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.15.34 # ipod nano with cache was in confusingly working state for me today 13.16.17 Quit lostlogic (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.17.11 # preglow: I got that sometimes. Reminds me of the bootloader LCD corruption. 13.18.50 # hmm 13.18.57 # and that was caused by the cop 13.19.00 # at least for me 13.19.54 Quit ratpack91 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13.20.01 # but cop shouldn't affect things here, since it's sleeping, and has got a cache of its own in any case 13.23.10 Nick ashridah is now known as Lost-ash (n=ashridah@67.106.77.212.ptr.us.xo.net) 13.27.04 Join VagueRant [0] (i=vaguery@wikipedia/vague-rant) 13.27.29 # howdy all 13.28.27 # quick q, for the life of me i can't work out why my rockboxed h300 volume goes from -100 to 0 13.28.53 # there was a thread on mistic about it but i can't find it 13.29.49 # I bet there are several threads 13.29.58 # the scale is now dB 13.30.00 # there are :) 13.30.50 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.30.50 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@p54BD6228.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.31.22 Join Membrillo [0] (n=sam_kill@CPE-144-131-86-7.nsw.bigpond.net.au) 13.31.30 Join ratpack91 [0] (n=Chris@dmcda.free-online.co.uk) 13.31.40 # Hiya Kids 13.31.52 # hi dad 13.31.56 # grandad! 13.32.30 # thats the sort of response i like after coming home from a hard day at the office 13.32.37 # now wheres my wife 13.32.47 # get in the kitchen and make me some dinner 13.33.05 # i been searchin but i can't find it im sorry 13.34.12 # sorry, my bad -84 to 0 13.34.17 # yo linuxstb, you managed to get the ipod bootloader to patch on windows? 13.34.19 # The volume scale should go -84..0 on units with UDA1380 (i.e. iriver H1x0 and H3x0) 13.34.31 Quit Zak1392 () 13.34.36 # as reported on rockbox.org 13.34.43 Join miner49er [0] (n=miner49e@82-32-84-226.cable.ubr01.chap.blueyonder.co.uk) 13.35.30 # Membrillo: No, I haven't looked at that at all. I'm hoping that feature will be added to the new Rockbox installer being developed. 13.35.55 # good good. ill keep patient 13.35.58 # But I also need to fix the bootloader so that it will load the Apple firmware again. 13.36.06 # of course 13.36.28 # you traced down the cause of that? 13.36.40 # No. 13.37.10 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@58.77.81.144) 13.37.12 # okey doke 13.39.34 # alrighty, is there a way to do percent for volume? 13.40.10 # nope 13.41.25 # Jungti1234 yes ? 13.41.38 # anybody got a good graphic volume? 13.42.22 # also looking for a nice battery symbol (animated? 13.42.27 # hm 13.42.30 # ) 13.42.31 Quit JazzBone ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 13.45.10 # Bger: Why isn't the backlight brightness just handled as a numeric setting in settings.c ? 13.45.28 # because I didn't know how? 13.45.58 # hm, i thinked about this but when it's 0 or 1 the screen is not readable ... 13.46.00 # Hmm? Numeric settings are even simpler that multi-value settings, and there's a lot of exaples 13.46.31 # alright, hit me on the head ;) 13.46.54 # Bger: So the valid range is 2..15. This doesn't stop it from being a numeric setting. I know that the current settings system does allow out-of-bounds values, 13.46.59 # * Bagder hands out the trouts ;-) 13.47.05 # s/thinked/thought 13.47.36 # While this shouldn't be a big problem, it'll be sorted when we switch to file-based settings at some point in teh future 13.48.58 # Bger: If you want to make sure out-of-bouds values aren't possible, backlight_set_brightness could catch it 13.49.14 # it does... 13.50.12 # but it will probably accept 0 and 1 as they are valid pwm values :( 13.50.29 # Yes, that's what I mean 13.50.57 # so, the user could select 0 & 1, but they'll be in fact 2 ? 13.51.29 # No, I mean settings.c should handle it as a plain numeric setting 13.51.52 # The settings menu doesn't allow setting 0 and 1. If someone writes 0 or 1 into a .cfg file by hand, he should know what he is doing 13.52.33 # backlight_set_brightness() should do proper limit checking... my bad 13.52.59 # petur no worries 13.53.00 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.53.03 # Imho it's not necessary, but it could do that 13.53.28 # * petur remembers you need a strong light to see the display if you set it to 0 or 1 ;) 13.53.32 # It's not really dangerous to set 0 or 1 (dangerous in the sense that it could crash) 13.56.01 # Jungti1234 put it in the incoming/rockbox directory 13.56.16 # Permission denied 13.57.37 # amiconn so the line should be {4, S_O(brightness), 9, "brightness", NULL } 13.57.40 # ? 13.58.34 # hmm 14.01.11 # how can I force the backlight to stay on for a plugin (for archos) 14.01.46 # miner49er with calling backlight_on(1) periodically 14.02.50 # nope 14.03.07 # You can set the backlight to always on while the plugin is running 14.03.10 # oooh, that sounds a bit lame. Can't the configuration settings be temporarily changed? 14.03.19 # Just don't forget to set it back before retuirning 14.03.22 # amiconn: yeah, that's what I want to do! 14.03.30 # There are several plugins which already do that 14.03.45 # video.rock is one example 14.03.49 # okay, which ones, i'll have a look 14.04.00 # amiconn there are some other examples doing the backlight_on(1) thing ... 14.04.03 # sorry 14.04.56 # okay, cheers amiconn 14.05.48 # Bger: Afaik there is _no_ example that call this periodically 14.07.08 # rb->backlight_set_timeout(1); // keep the light on 14.07.45 # ..and at the end: rb->backlight_set_timeout(rb->global_settings->backlight_timeout); 14.08.32 # excellent, cheers amiconn :-) 14.09.03 # so, rb->backlight_set_timeout(1) sets it ON ? 14.09.07 # ok, sorry, i'm dumb 14.09.51 # Bger, What do you want? 14.09.56 # The timeout values are idices 14.10.01 # 0 is always off 14.10.07 # 1 is always on 14.10.08 # etc 14.10.32 # yes, just realised that ... 14.13.22 Join webguest95 [0] (n=522e39b4@labb.contactor.se) 14.14.04 Join lostlogi1x [0] (n=lostlogi@node-4024215a.mdw.onnet.us.uu.net) 14.15.34 Quit perplexity (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14.16.29 # daily build meta info: http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-dev-archive-2005-12/0119.shtml 14.17.23 Join perplexity [0] (n=joust@cdj379.emirates.net.ae) 14.18.24 Part VagueRant 14.22.28 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 14.23.11 Join hd [0] (i=hd@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 14.23.32 # http://www.google.co.kr/doodle10.html 14.23.53 Quit goa (brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.23.53 NSplit brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 14.24.05 # Happy Holidays! :) 14.24.36 NHeal brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 14.24.36 NJoin goa [0] (i=hd@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 14.25.05 Quit goa (Connection reset by peer) 14.27.20 # * Bger cryes from the number of wps bmps ... 14.27.28 # yes, that needs fixing 14.27.32 # in a way that's not too annoying 14.29.51 Quit Membrillo () 14.30.53 Quit lostlogicx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.31.07 # * amiconn whispers: Unified bitmap patch by _FireFly_ 14.33.19 # amiconn please, see my first "OOps" commit :) 14.33.26 # OO 14.33.56 # Bger 14.34.03 # yes, Jungti1234 14.34.26 # Did you do it commit? 14.34.43 # -> Did you commit it? 14.35.01 # no, i corrected my previous commit 14.35.45 # someone here with korean fonts ? 14.35.45 # I must sleep. :( 14.35.51 # I have. 14.35.54 # Jungti1234 oki, nite 14.36.10 # yes, but i'd like one of the devs to look at it ... 14.36.19 Join MrShlee [0] (i=BIGKING@58-84-74-174.dial-lns6.sa.chariot.net.au) 14.36.20 # bdf? 14.36.25 # ttf? 14.36.36 # hm, Jungti1234, i don't have time no, gotta go 14.36.44 # but i'll look at it 14.36.47 # today or tomorrow 14.36.50 # ok 14.36.58 # good night :) 14.37.03 Quit Jungti1234 ("bye") 14.37.46 # Weird, I've never had the H3 booting problem until an hour ago :S 14.37.57 # Wonder if its got anything to do with the battery :| 14.38.00 # as mine was flat 14.40.50 # <_FireFly_> amiconn not unified it si combined-bitmap ;) 14.40.53 Join edx [0] (i=edx@p54A86637.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.40.55 # <_FireFly_> s/si/is 14.42.01 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.42.10 Part PaulJ 14.42.57 Quit petur ("CGI:IRC 0.5.7 (2005/06/19)") 14.42.58 Quit JoeBorn (Connection reset by peer) 14.43.00 Join jborn_ [0] (n=jborn@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 14.55.25 # www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?p=359958 and www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?p=359959 15.04.34 Quit lostlogi1x (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.05.48 Quit mirak (Remote closed the connection) 15.09.27 Quit Kohlrabi ("Leaving") 15.10.02 Quit MrShlee ("Changed by popular Request - "I am the heart of your darkness, you stinking oompa-loompa morons!"") 15.12.22 Quit _FireFly_ ("An error? 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My modem is error correcting.") 15.12.23 Quit miner49er ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.11") 15.13.26 Join miner49er [0] (n=miner49e@82-32-84-226.cable.ubr01.chap.blueyonder.co.uk) 15.14.04 Join JazzBone [0] (n=Miranda@cc829402-a.groni1.gr.home.nl) 15.14.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.15.12 Join San [0] (n=test@194.125.95.56) 15.16.05 # amiconn: how does that patch work? does it require people to work on a big bitmap, or does it come with conversion tools? 15.18.39 # I think it simply works on a bit bmp 15.18.48 # big 15.20.50 # badger, you relise you posted the H300 remote buttons twice on MR? 15.20.53 # :P 15.21.10 # I didn't 15.21.15 # you did 15.21.20 # it is sorted now tought 15.21.23 # *tough 15.21.40 # but perhaps Bger did 15.21.54 # ah, bager? 15.21.55 # http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=33921 15.22.00 # sorry 15.22.08 # read the name wrong 15.22.08 # :\ 15.22.22 # well you addressed badger up there and there's no one here with such a nick ;-) 15.23.27 # you are badger 15.23.29 # :P 15.24.02 # well, that only proofs I'm not the only dyslexic here 15.24.06 # proves even 15.24.12 # hehe 15.25.35 # arf 15.26.09 # how i hate carrying things 15.28.11 # later, all 15.28.31 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.28.40 Join lostlogic [0] (n=lostlogi@node-4024215a.mdw.onnet.us.uu.net) 15.30.08 Quit DJDD_ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 15.30.36 Quit linuxstb ("Client Exiting") 15.30.49 Join lostlogicx [0] (n=lostlogi@node-4024215a.mdw.onnet.us.uu.net) 15.31.52 Nick Nibbler is now known as xNibbler (n=sven@212.202.193.200) 15.31.54 Nick xNibbler is now known as Nibbler (n=sven@212.202.193.200) 15.32.13 Nick thegeek is now known as thegeek_ (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 15.37.38 # I've submitted a test version of my asteroids game to the patch tracker, it's just the .c file at the moment but please give me feedback as tonight is the lat night I can work on it for 2 weeks! 15.38.02 # ...oh, and it probably only runs on the JBR at the moment...oops. 15.45.42 Join dropandho [0] (n=dropandh@cpe-24-193-36-91.nyc.res.rr.com) 15.53.31 Join RotAtoR [0] (n=user@24-231-249-25.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) 15.56.47 Quit jborn_ ("open.neurostechnology.com") 16.01.29 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB05891.ipt.aol.com) 16.04.25 Join Mongey| [0] (n=mongeyc@83-70-62-70.b-ras1.dbn.dublin.eircom.net) 16.06.18 # uf, these MR members :( 16.06.45 # what? 16.06.46 # i posted it 2 times: one in H300's RB forum and one in H100's RB ... 16.07.45 # posted what? 16.08.56 # oh 16.09.48 # ill test 16.10.41 # im luke im 5, my dads bruce lee, he drives me round in his jcb 16.10.54 # :) 16.11.41 # ;) 16.11.55 # do u like that sog? 16.12.15 # in fact i don't know it 16.13.28 # remote is brill 16.13.55 # ty 16.13.58 # gtg 16.14.01 # bye 16.14.03 # bye 16.14.07 Quit Mongey| () 16.15.17 # bril ? 16.15.45 Quit lostlogic ("Going to the moon") 16.16.08 Join webguest41 [0] (n=c31ce021@labb.contactor.se) 16.16.36 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.23.26 Quit XavierGr ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 16.30.59 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@chan530-a228.otenet.gr) 16.32.10 # nite 16.34.08 Join Nibbler [0] (n=sven@port-212-202-193-200.dynamic.qsc.de) 16.41.30 Quit webguest41 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 16.42.12 Join Sando [0] (n=lolsteam@techgaming.net) 16.44.54 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A44CF9.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.57.28 Quit perplexity ("*crack*") 17.07.00 Join DiveineIn [0] (n=eran_yar@87.69.22.69.cable.012.net.il) 17.07.13 # hello, ne1 here? 17.07.54 # yay! 17.08.07 # id like some guidance pls... 17.08.17 # i want to start building plugins for the h300 17.08.25 # and i cant find any info on it... 17.08.33 # okay, well i've built some for archos 17.08.39 # any chance you (or anyone else) can point me in the right direction? 17.08.57 # i understand they are build in C, right? 17.08.59 # take a look at the helloworld.c plugin for a start 17.09.04 # yeah, all in c 17.09.05 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DevelopmentGuide 17.09.13 # ...or go there! 17.09.28 # damn, i forgot c, moved on to .net, itll take a while to remember :( 17.09.37 # first make sure you can build everything from source fine 17.09.43 # I doubt you completely forgot it! 17.10.20 # not completely, but im sure ill confuse C# with C 17.10.21 # The instructions on the site are very good. What operating system are you on? 17.10.27 # winxp 17.10.57 # already d/l cygwin 17.11.18 Join akaidiot [0] (n=nope@c-5846e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 17.14.06 # whats SH1 and COLDFIRE? 17.14.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.15.13 # There is a very good development kit put together by Bluechip that works well on XP 17.15.13 # aah, well the devkit has it all wrapped up nicely. i'd recommend it 17.15.13 # you just install and go really 17.15.15 # get the latest source tarball as well though, full instructions come with the devkit 17.15.21 # processor types 17.15.27 # http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cyborgsystems/CS_Main/RockBox/RockBox.htm 17.15.33 # there the CPU's I believe, Archos uses SH1 and I think the iRiver uses Coldfire, though I'm not 100% 17.15.35 # must dash now anyway, byee! 17.15.43 # that's correct. 17.25.45 Join San||Away [0] (n=test@194.125.95.231) 17.36.44 Join pinkutank [0] (i=pinkutan@85.103.34.253) 17.37.14 # is linus on, oh no, not on 17.37.24 # anyone palying around with rockbox for h300 17.38.33 # I'd like to know if flashing rockbox with us firmware kills drm 17.42.42 # pinkutank: afaik yes it does. 17.43.40 # bah, would flash right away but I'm gonna sell mine in a month 17.43.46 # I really dont like it 17.44.09 # hmph, I love it with rockbox, liked it a lot w/ original firmware too. 17.44.22 # I dont like the key layout 17.44.28 # I dont like the screen 17.44.37 # my fingers are too big for the keys 17.44.49 # and I hate seeing a black screen when the backlight is off 17.44.50 # what are you going to replace it with? 17.45.00 # any color LCD will have that most likely. 17.45.06 # I have a ihp 120 that I use 17.45.16 # and not necessarily any color lcd has that 17.45.19 # for example 17.45.23 # ipod nano 17.45.25 # ipod 5g 17.45.30 # creative zen vision m 17.45.35 # and archos gmini 40* 17.45.43 # the backlight goes off and the screen is still readable!? 17.45.47 # yes 17.45.54 # in all of those players 17.46.08 # there are different kinds of lcds out there 17.46.15 # I'll have to look at one of them -- I've never seen a color LCD like that. 17.46.24 # the only advantage of having one like the h320 is you can see it better from sides 17.46.32 # my mobile phone color screens are too very readable when backlight is off 17.46.38 # well that's a pretty big advantage, eh? 17.46.55 # lol, I think it isnt even an advantage 17.47.04 # Slasheri: that's true, my cell is readable without backlight, but it's so dull compared to the H300 17.47.15 # I dont put my player on a desk and try to watch a movie with 4 friends 17.47.27 # lostlogicx: hehe, might be true.. i have never seen the h300 screen 17.47.30 # haha, I put it on my desk to th side and glance at it so I need the angles. 17.47.37 # h300s screen is not that good 17.47.42 # you can still see it 17.47.45 # I guess this is why there are so many different types of DAPs ;) 17.47.55 # but it will be a little washed out at extreme angles 17.48.26 # Hmm, but i think oled displays would be the coolest ones :) 17.48.37 # <_FireFly_> ;) 17.48.44 # yarr, lower power consumption too, right? 17.48.47 # ipod nano, ipod 5g, and zen visionm all have better screens than h300 17.48.53 # I never seen an oled yet 17.49.18 # oleds are something like a very thin led matrix.. they have extremely wide angle and clear screen 17.49.34 # but they draw some power constantly.. but it should be easy to dim those thought 17.58.38 # ummm, stupid question 17.58.48 # i set up everything for starting to make plugins 17.58.57 # but i never worked with unix/linux before 17.59.08 # is there a dev enviornment? 17.59.14 # how do i use it? 17.59.29 # even a simple text editor would be fine :) 18.02.52 # make is everything you need to compile the code :) if you are looking a console editor, i could suggest jed (but you should modify the .jedrc file). kate is great for use in kde 18.03.18 # Slasheri: was that in english? 18.03.23 # :) 18.05.40 # type make, then type jed :) 18.06.58 # in the console that is 18.07.09 # DiveineIn: what OS are you used to? 18.08.22 # <_FireFly_> i think Windows 18.08.42 Quit pinkutank () 18.11.23 # just use notepad! or download crimson editor for free :-) 18.11.34 # <_FireFly_> or jedit ;) 18.29.53 # Hmm, still no LinusN :( 18.30.10 # <_FireFly_> tja then you must wait ;) 18.30.20 # <_FireFly_> or mail him if you now the address 18.30.27 # <_FireFly_> an email ;) 18.31.10 # <_FireFly_> know 18.36.27 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-44-85.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.38.15 Join dpassen1 [0] (n=dpassen1@cpe-24-168-110-99.si.res.rr.com) 18.50.30 # hey firefly! 18.50.36 # are you mr. remote? 18.50.43 # <_FireFly_> ? 18.50.48 # <|u|smooth> anything new for the h300? 18.50.59 # you do a bunch of work on the remote for iriver...dont cha? 18.51.08 # <_FireFly_> yepp 18.51.16 # thank you sooo much! 18.51.20 # it is reallly appreciated 18.51.24 # <_FireFly_> :) thanks 18.51.25 # and sooo helpful 18.51.47 # was wondering if you were still working at it? porting the other screens etc? 18.51.52 # <_FireFly_> TiMiD has created a good base to do it the right way 18.52.05 # yes, definately! 18.52.16 # |u|smooth: xvid 18.52.38 # <|u|smooth> video works? 18.53.04 # <_FireFly_> currently not much i have made only the sleep-timer-setting menu be shown and adjustable from the remote 18.53.08 # there is an unoptimised plugin 18.53.39 # got it 18.53.45 Join petur [0] (i=petur@d54C1B62E.access.telenet.be) 18.53.49 # any plans to do any further? 18.53.52 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.54.30 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB05891.ipt.aol.com) 18.54.31 # <_FireFly_> at least the vkeyboard and bookmark select-screen are missing 18.54.44 # yeah- i saw that 18.54.50 # you leaving that up to someone else? 18.54.56 # recording screen... 18.55.14 # <_FireFly_> amiconn: if you want you can do it ;) 18.55.28 # If I had enough time I would, 18.55.36 # but remote is low-pri for me, you know... 18.55.37 # <|u|smooth> yea why when i boot up its automatically on recording 18.57.09 Join Lear [0] (n=chatzill@h184n5c1o285.bredband.skanova.com) 18.57.23 # <_FireFly_> a big task would be to made the vkeyboard multi-screen capable if the different keyboard-code for the charcell-lcd-targets should be also covered with the new one 18.57.34 # can I delete files from rockbox ? 18.57.59 # <_FireFly_> mirak: do you mean when running rockbox ?? 18.58.09 # delete files from the file system 18.58.16 # with rockbox 18.58.16 # <_FireFly_> yepp 18.58.41 # <_FireFly_> long press select then you can select delete in the showing menu 18.58.51 # _FireFly_: I don't think so. Going multiscreen requires more flexible vkeyboard code anyway, and integrating charcell support should become relatively easy 18.59.34 # <_FireFly_> amiconn: could be but i have currently no idea how to do it 18.59.41 # ...including morse support 18.59.48 # I do 18.59.52 # <_FireFly_> ? 19.00.01 # (have an idea) 19.00.07 # <_FireFly_> tell me 19.00.11 # <_FireFly_> please :) 19.00.18 # <_FireFly_> you you have time 19.00.25 # <_FireFly_> if you 19.00.32 # See yesterday's log 19.01.26 # <_FireFly_> i will look 19.01.38 # can anyone tell me how the iram is used actually in the codecs ? 19.01.41 # briefly 19.02.05 # are the data copied hover iram for each important function ? 19.02.18 # then passed back to ram ? 19.03.13 # that would be sooo great to work out the remote stuff! 19.03.42 # mirak: soon after start each codec copies whatever is needed. Just look in the beginning of a codec. 19.04.20 # Look for the USE_IRAM ifdef. 19.04.53 # <_FireFly_> amiconn: i think this is a nice idea 19.06.18 # <_FireFly_> we could use the current one-page-array and define an rect which defines the viewable chars 19.06.36 # <_FireFly_> depending on the screen-size 19.07.00 # wooo- so its not soooo bad?! 19.07.50 # <_FireFly_> then we would have in the first stage only two realy pages the char-map and the morse-code-list 19.07.56 Join Febs [0] (n=40be24f0@labb.contactor.se) 19.09.55 # <_FireFly_> also to have the non ascii/latin-1 eventually latin9 char-map for the keyboard to be part of the language file is great 19.10.05 # Hrm... Glyph preloading crashes the simulator... So ... keep the preloading and fix it (and make it more complete?), or remove it? Any opinions? 19.13.38 # Lear: I see this line, but I don't understand how it can be enough 19.13.41 # #ifdef USE_IRAM 19.13.41 # rb->memcpy(iramstart, iramcopy, iramend - iramstart); 19.13.41 # #endif 19.14.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.15.43 # It copies all data from a copy to the beginning of the iram section. The data is either constant or zeroed out (bss), so there's no need to copy anything back (other than when switching to the voice playback, but the codecs don't need to worry about that). 19.16.14 # <_FireFly_> amiconn: i will try to create a small "design-paper" for this 19.16.35 # Lear: I don't understand 19.16.35 # that is sooo great firefly 19.16.38 # thanks ones again 19.16.48 # it is really appreciated that you are picking this up and running with it 19.16.55 # i would love to have a complete remote 19.17.03 # Lear: the copy happen only once ? 19.17.29 # Only once, during codec initialization, yes. Codecs are loaded on demand, after all. 19.17.46 # so what is copied then ? 19.18.06 # Lear: If glyph preloading crashes the sim, I'd say that should be fixed. The sim usually doesn't crash without reason... 19.18.08 # I though music data where copied into iram then processed into it 19.18.15 # Lear: I don't get the picture 19.19.18 # No, generally the file data isn't copied there (unless to a temporary buffer). IRAM is mainly used for commonly used tables and buffers and small chunks of decoded audio (during processing). 19.19.38 # There is only 96 kB, of which the codec gets to use half of it. 19.19.41 # _FireFly_: I can see problems for 2 targets with my virtual page idea. 19.19.43 # Lear: yes of course I understand that 19.19.58 # <_FireFly_> amiconn: yes ? 19.21.07 # There are 2 targets which use keyboard modes because there aren't enough buttons to allow separate button (combos) for moving the cursor within the input line and deleting chars. 19.21.26 # These use keyboard modes today 19.21.35 # mirak: So, what parts do you not understand? 19.21.51 # <_FireFly_> amiconn: i have seen it in the sources 19.22.01 # Lear: hi, did you look at the lostlogix's patch for optimise Tremor a bit again? 19.22.46 # On Ondio, LEFT at the left border and RIGHT at the right border are used to switch pages, as there is no separate button for that. UP at the top border and DOWN at the bottom border switches to line mode, allowing to move the cursor and delete chars within the input line 19.23.13 # moos: again and again. I've applied one part of it (though in a different way), and I plan to do the rest too (the iram tweak bit). 19.23.28 # <_FireFly_> i think on these 2 targets a button could switch between line-editing and char-selects 19.23.49 # On the player, the virtual page is one line only. ON switches between line edit at picker 19.23.49 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 19.23.56 # Lear: good to hear you're in this area 19.23.57 # Lear: when it happens in the code 19.24.14 # _FireFly_: Which_ button on Ondio is the biiiig question 19.24.19 # <_FireFly_> yeah 19.24.21 # Lear: I am in tremor and try to search wich datas are put into the iram 19.24.52 # LEFT/RIGHT/UP/DOWN are used for moving. MODE adds a char (or deletes a char in line mode). Long MODE accepts, OFF aborts 19.25.01 # No other button available... 19.25.11 # <_FireFly_> and what about combos ?? 19.26.06 # Lear: I am thinking how it can be used for xvid 19.26.06 # We could keep the move-out-of-picker-area system, but the picker area will be bigger with a virtual page, potentially way bigger 19.26.16 # mirak: the copy I mentioned is where it happens. The rest is done during linking. Through the ICODE_ATTR/IDATA_ATTR/ICONST_ATTR macros, different bits of code and data are put in separate sections, that are located after each other in the binary file. The copy does the final part. 19.26.18 # (thinking chinese/japanese) 19.27.23 # mirak: Similar approach, I guess, though you need to make sure no codec is running first, obviously... 19.27.23 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.27.41 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-154-187-151.bna.bellsouth.net) 19.28.26 # <_FireFly_> the otherside at least for the player it would be hard to display on them non-latin chars 19.28.31 # Combos might be possible, but combos involving MODE forbid the convenient 'Long MODE accepts' assignment. Otherwise the user has to be really fast... 19.28.40 # <_FireFly_> yepp 19.28.49 # there is no japanese participating rockbox ? 19.28.52 # _FireFly_: The player doesn't need to display non-latin. 19.28.53 Join einhirn [0] (i=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 19.29.04 # <_FireFly_> ah ok 19.29.12 # It should just share the virtual page (and morse) code 19.29.59 # <_FireFly_> you mean the builtin virtual page 19.31.31 Quit tvelocity (No route to host) 19.34.25 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 19.36.42 # <_FireFly_> amiconn: can only MODE be used to have two button combos on the ondio?? 19.37.06 # MODE or OFF, but OFF is very inconvenient 19.37.40 # Combos involving OFF need to be pressed in the 'reverse' order, to avoid switching the unit off 19.37.41 # <_FireFly_> yepp but a long press OFF could be used but if should is a other question 19.38.08 # <_FireFly_> oh yes 19.38.18 # We already have 2 places which use long OFF, but that's ugly 19.38.33 # <_FireFly_> ok long press OFF is no option 19.39.20 # Lear: long oggpack_look_full(oggpack_buffer *b,int bits) ICODE_ATTR; what is that doing ? 19.40.08 # Tells the compiler to put that function into a specially named section. 19.40.21 Quit akaidiot (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.44.19 Join saratoga [0] (n=80c4c198@labb.contactor.se) 19.44.51 Quit JazzBone ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 19.54.17 # Lear: so generally the use of iram is not dynamical 19.54.36 # ? 19.56.13 # Nope. 19.58.42 # Lear: but for exemple, the window on wich the idct are applied is copied in a buffer at run time 19.59.01 # ? 19.59.50 # for exemple 19.59.57 # Where, more exactly? I guess tremor somewhere... 20.00.29 # for jpeg or xvid, I guess the blocks needs to be copied 20.01.17 # You refer to the window data in window_lookup.h? 20.01.17 # you can get an improvment of how much when using iram ? 20.02.37 # I've no exact measures, but quite a lot. When Slasheri played with dithering, it was soon noticed that it was quite slow. I then tried moving most of the data used by the dithering code, for a large decrease in boost ratio (could've been halved or something, don't remember exactly). 20.03.50 # it all depends on how much the data in question is used. 20.04.23 # btw, anyone who knows what kind of latencies you get from normal ram? 20.05.27 # <_FireFly_> amiconn: on home.arcor.de/s.wezel/design-papers you can find a file which defines the structur of the vkeyboard and used data-structs 20.05.59 # <_FireFly_> rb-vkeyboard-design-paper.txt 20.11.05 # u rock firefly! 20.11.10 # sooo great 20.11.14 # mirak: Data that is only read once doesn't benefit from copying to IRAM, quite the opposite would happen 20.11.22 # is there anything else that needs to be looked at for remote? 20.11.29 # As soon as it is used more that once, the copying pays off 20.11.45 # amiconn: have you done some benchmark with the same function in ram and iram ? 20.12.12 # Lear: any thoughts on my next version tremor optimization patch? Things that I did that are big no-nos, other approaches you think I might have better luck attacking? 20.12.13 # <_FireFly_> dropandho: recording-screen 20.12.18 # Lear: Copying a large block of data from DRAM to DRAM takes ~4 times as long as copying a same-sized block from IRAM to IRAM 20.12.27 # That's already _with_ burst mode 20.12.56 # lostlogicx: next version? 20.13.01 # Lear: in case you missed it yesterday, I like how you did the inlining, definitely better than just merging the .cs like I did. Only concern is the repetition of that add, but I guess it doesn't hurt much. 20.13.18 # mirak: Putting code into IRAM doesn't give nearly as much boost as putting data into IRAM 20.13.31 # The coldfire has an instruction cache, but no data cache 20.13.32 # Lear: I posted to patch tracker my latest optimizations, rebased up to what you put in CVS. 20.13.42 # IIRC, the compiler re-used the result of it, so it might not be as bad as it looks. 20.14.03 # Lear: sweet! 20.14.33 # I didn't actually check the assembly results for those lines. 20.15.44 # I'm beginning to think that we can get a lot of performance improvement by converting everything that _is_ unsigned in the codec to be explicitly unsigned. Looks like a lot of time and code size is wasted jumping around to deal with positive vs. negative results that are impossible. 20.16.10 # Well, I'm not sure if I checked the "CVS"-version, but I had that in one version at least... 20.18.38 # the addition is reused. 20.20.29 # hm... do all those asms for stuff like add really help? 20.21.13 # and at least those in oggpack_look seem to be in the rarely executed branch... 20.23.20 # good point on oggpack_look and yes, they do -- addq.l is much faster than move, add, move -- it depends how often the code is called... I threw them in everywhere they'd help at all, without really considering only doing it in critical code paths. 20.25.19 # I did some quick checks on that, and the rare branch is executed in something like once every 200 calls or so. 20.26.29 # yeah, it's much much less, even GCC knows that, and compiles the code so that it's the further jump. the ADDQIs in framing.c are hit about 30k times each in a song 20.26.42 # Btw, I did try assembler optimizations for the often executed branch in oggpack_look (i.e., the inlined part). Turns out it was difficult to improve the common cases. Easy to improve the uncommon case though... So I dropped that bit. 20.26.45 # for comparison, oggpack_read is called 206k times 20.27.07 # oggpack_look far more than that, afaik. 20.27.07 # Lear: yeah, you're right on that, I discovered the same after much sweat and blood over it. 20.27.22 # yeah, oggpack_look was in the millions 20.27.50 # 15 million on oggpack look and 11 million on oggpack_adv 20.29.18 # praps just the render_point part is worth taking out of that patch ;) that had a tangible gain alone, because it was 1) written stupidly and 2) compiled stupidly. 20.30.26 # oh, that and maybe the (unsigned)s in look. 20.31.42 # I was plannig on at least doing iram tweaks first (separate commit) and then render_point and perhaps render_line. 20.32.01 # <_FireFly_> amiconn: i have updated the file 20.32.13 # Lear: rock on. 20.32.19 # <_FireFly_> amiconn: does it reflect your idea 20.32.22 # <_FireFly_> ? 20.32.39 # Now, if we only could get someone to port the FFT patch... :) 20.32.51 # <_FireFly_> Lear: FFT ?? 20.33.20 # Using an (I?)FFT to do the IMDCT in Tremor. 20.33.42 # Lear: I think perplexity is working on that 20.33.48 # <_FireFly_> this doesn*t say anything to me ;) 20.33.51 # and teaching GCC to automagically do some of the ASM stuff I've done. 20.34.27 # Lear: ifft yes :) 20.34.39 # Fast Fourier Transform 20.35.13 # the inverse one 20.35.13 Join akaidiot [0] (n=nope@c-5846e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 20.35.18 # Inverse Modified Discrete Cosine Transform 20.35.26 # I looked them up on google / wikipedia 20.35.26 # :-D 20.35.30 Join NicoFR [0] (n=nico404@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 20.35.40 # fourier transform a wave to a spectrum 20.35.50 # inverse do the opposite 20.36.06 # i always feel sorry for the cpu having to do DFTs. 20.36.15 # maybe we could use the same 20.36.22 # for all the codecs 20.36.32 # I think MAD already uses an FFT 20.36.42 # optimised ? 20.36.53 # lostlogicx: it's an ifft 20.36.53 # :) 20.37.19 # don't know how optimized it is, but MAD is pretty fast... 20.37.37 # mad is a mp3 codec ? 20.37.37 # <_FireFly_> amiconn: ?? 20.37.42 # mirak: yeah 20.39.14 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 20.39.16 # On the lowmem branch of Tremor, the FFT patch speeds things up by about 30%, when run on a PC... 20.39.46 Join arkascha [0] (n=arkascha@xdsl-195-14-221-208.netcologne.de) 20.40.58 # wow. That'd be impressive as hell. 20.43.48 # Lear: What makes that patch incompatible with Tremor in rockbox? 20.44.13 Join DrumRBoy320|Away [0] (n=Drumrboy@ool-44c20ff1.dyn.optonline.net) 20.44.23 # * amiconn takes a look at the design doc 20.44.25 # The lowmem branch is quite different, in many ways... 20.44.55 # It's not trivial to move it over at least; things about the windowing is different, for instance. 20.45.59 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 20.46.11 Quit linuxstb (Nick collision from services.) 20.46.15 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 20.46.15 # * _FireFly_ hopes the doc is written in a understandable way 20.47.07 # _FireFly_: Some details are missing, and some more details are tbd 20.47.17 # <_FireFly_> tbd ?? 20.47.22 # to be determined 20.48.09 # One thing is that it should be made clear that there are 2 virtual pages, one for the 'classic' picker mode and one for morse input (which is actually only a help page) 20.49.29 # <_FireFly_> i thought this makes it clear: "a page for latin-chars and morse-codes are builtin as the standard pages" 20.49.40 # The thing to be determined is whether the virtual page should be fixed both in X and Y dimension, or if it would be better to rewrap it to the display width, scrolling in Y direction only 20.50.06 # <_FireFly_> yeah 20.50.21 # I would like to put latin and non-latin all into one page, and morse into the second 20.50.39 # <_FireFly_> this is better ? "a page for latin-chars and a page for morse-codes are builtinas the standard pages" 20.50.43 # I tend to like the rewrap idea more, this would ease implementation on Ondio 20.51.43 # Then we could imagine the 2 virtual pages as being next to each other. Moving right from the picker page would switch to morse input, and moving left again would switch back 20.52.01 # <_FireFly_> that can be easily be done to define the "len" var in the virtual-page struct to be the lcd-width 20.52.55 # We could even handle the line edit problem on Ondio the same way - moving left from the picker page or right from the morse page would switch to line mode. 20.53.02 # Up or Down could switch back 20.53.17 # <_FireFly_> "There are two pages builtin on for the latin-chars and 20.53.18 # <_FireFly_> one for the morse-code-input(currently only a help-screen)" 20.53.22 # All this could be indicated by a buttonbar-like indicator line 20.54.15 # <_FireFly_> yepp 20.55.55 # <_FireFly_> if the cursor is located either on the right side or the left side the page is switched 20.56.15 # <_FireFly_> when pressing to the left or right depending on the current page 20.58.52 Join hshah [0] (n=hshah@hirenshah.plus.com) 21.00.39 # Yes, and for the Ondio there's a third 'page', the line edit mode 21.02.03 # The player should keep the line oriented layout, imho. This is better because (1) the picker can be only one line anyway and (2) there's '-' and '+' as the equivalent of LEFT and RIGHT, but no equivalent for UP and DOWN 21.02.37 # <_FireFly_> should the third "page" for the ondio be reachable from both pages ?? 21.03.39 # I think it could work like this: (actually a ring) <->picker<->morse<->line edit<-> 21.03.59 # <_FireFly_> or so 21.04.03 # Erm, slightly wrong 21.04.23 # <_FireFly_> ah right 21.04.35 # <-picker-> <-morse-> ^-line edit-v 21.04.39 # <_FireFly_> in line-edit mode you need to press UP or DOWN ;) 21.06.47 # <_FireFly_> has the player also the morse-code-page ?? 21.06.53 Part Paul_The_Nerd 21.07.21 # Imho it should. Perhaps w/o help, just saying 'morse input' 21.07.38 # <_FireFly_> and how to reach ?? 21.09.11 # Imho there are 2 options. Either we keep the current player keyboard, where ON switches between line edit and picker, and MENU flips through picker lines (currently 3) 21.09.31 # Then we could simply add morse input as a 4th 'picker line' 21.09.53 # <_FireFly_> this option would be the easiest because this code needs not be rewritten to the new "design" 21.10.47 # Or we want unified code, then MENU could flip through modes (picker / morse/ line edit) and ON could scroll through lines in picker 21.12.25 Join jlo [0] (n=jl@132.213.103-84.rev.gaoland.net) 21.12.36 # hi all 21.12.42 # <_FireFly_> hi 21.13.18 # your work sounds perfect! 21.13.40 # is it hard to code? 21.14.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.15.16 # <_FireFly_> i have update the doc 21.21.05 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 21.21.49 # <_FireFly_> i think it doesn't really matter which option is used but the second option has mayby the advantage that the overall source-code size can be reduced a bit 21.23.11 # anyone working on a "top 25 played songs" for rockbox? 21.23.15 Nick San||Away is now known as San (n=test@194.125.95.231) 21.23.24 # <_FireFly_> for the second methode we could split the device-dependent code from the device-independent code which could reduce the usage of #ifdefs 21.23.47 # San: make that an audioscrobler plugin ;) 21.23.56 # well, yes 21.23.56 # :D 21.24.00 # <_FireFly_> so that the independent keyboard code includes the device-dependent header 21.24.09 # are they petur? 21.24.21 # ? 21.24.33 # making it? I heard some about it but saw no progress 21.24.43 # no idea... 21.24.54 # ok 21.26.08 # linuxstb: are you here? 21.26.39 # <_FireFly_> amiconn: we could define some interface-functions e.g. get_next_page, handle_button, draw_picker, draw_edit_line 21.38.31 Join Rob2222_ [0] (n=Miranda@ACB2A67F.ipt.aol.com) 21.43.00 # * petur thinks we should do something about the way multi-platform support is implemented 21.43.19 Quit hshah ("Leaving") 21.44.20 # adding rtc for h3xx is going to be clumsy... 21.44.29 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.44.45 Quit NicoFR () 21.45.26 # driver must be split just like LCD was... 21.45.49 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@58.77.81.144) 21.46.39 # petur: Isn't the driver already split? H3x0 RTC is part of PCF50606 iirc 21.47.18 # * petur goes looking 21.48.05 # nope, and it shouldn't... it only contains general access methods 21.48.26 # even my brightness stuff doesn't belong in there... 21.49.16 # reason: if it's register compatible with the PCF50605, that code can be shared... 21.49.52 # rtc was included in the pcf50605 driver... 21.50.50 Join dupczas [0] (n=k_brzecz@avb130.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 21.51.22 # hi 21.51.29 # hello 21.51.40 # ;) 21.52.07 # cicho tu jakos 21.53.27 # What mean is it? 21.53.46 # hmmmm i think that you understand polish 21.53.48 # i mean 21.54.05 # Yay, finally found why mpa.codec handled bad files so badly. :) 21.54.05 # that is very quiet here 21.54.17 # yes :) 21.54.22 # Now I just need to figure out how to fix it wihtout borking the seeking. :) 21.56.02 # sleep all? 21.56.18 # no ;) 21.56.43 # what time is it ?? 21.56.43 # What time is there? 21.56.47 # hehe 21.56.48 # hehe 21.56.50 # 5:56 21.56.54 # am 21.57.04 # rotfl ! 21.57.15 # 9 57 pm ;) 21.57.28 # what you come from ? 21.57.42 # Just because. 21.58.01 # ?? 21.58.05 # -_-; 21.58.14 # I don't understand. 21.58.15 # i don't get it ?? 21.58.21 # me too ;) 21.58.34 # where do you live ? 21.58.44 # I live in South Korea. 21.59.02 # lol nice 21.59.11 # hehe 21.59.11 # hi preglow : did you have time to listen to files or think about shelving filters ? 22.00.23 # everobody here lives in South Korea? 22.01.12 # Only one . 22.01.51 # But, Rockbox is many korean people. 22.02.04 # <_FireFly_> dupczas: most are in europe 22.02.13 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.02.45 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 22.03.31 # dupczas: Where do you live? 22.03.44 # in Poland :) 22.04.25 # ah. :) 22.04.54 DBUG Enqueued KICK dupczas 22.04.54 # 11•12Jungti123411• you are female or male ? 22.04.54 Quit edx (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.05.16 # Ah, that looks promising... 22.05.57 # I'm male 22.06.05 # hehe me too ;) 22.06.15 # ^_^ 22.06.29 # Did you want that I'm female? 22.07.20 # ?? 22.07.27 # hahaha. 22.07.36 # Nothing. :) 22.08.09 # conversations sure have a high peak-to-peak value here ;) 22.09.38 # goodnight 22.09.42 Quit jlo () 22.09.48 # I go to theater today. 22.10.29 Part dupczas 22.10.36 # bye~ 22.10.37 Quit Jungti1234 ("bye") 22.11.47 Join solexx_ [0] (n=jrschulz@d029143.adsl.hansenet.de) 22.12.14 # Lear: what will? 22.12.49 Quit Febs ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.13.39 # did you have discovered something? :) 22.14.15 # The mpa codec fix. 22.14.36 # Hooray! 22.15.01 # you found one way for fix it? 22.15.07 # already I mean 22.15.53 # already? spent about two hours digging... 22.16.25 # oops sorry :) 22.22.50 Quit solexx (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22.25.24 # petur: Have you seen this patch? http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/h300-rtc.diff 22.26.32 # That's basically all that's needed to enable the RTC on the h300. LinusN has seen it, but he said that the i2c commands to read the RTC need protecting from interrupts. 22.29.40 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@193.15.23.131) 22.29.46 # hmmm... and why don't the other I2C calls need protection from interrupts? 22.29.54 # look who's there ;) 22.30.54 # hi LinusN :) 22.31.07 # petur: the pcf50606 is used in the adc interrupt 22.31.11 # amiconn: hi 22.31.45 # so you have to protect all pcf50606 communication that can be interrupted by the adc (and button) interrupt 22.31.56 # ah ok 22.32.45 # LinusN: Two questions regarding H300 lcd: (1) Do you have an idea why lcd DMA interferes with recording? 22.32.48 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.32.58 # Did you perhaps use the same DMA channel? 22.33.01 # amiconn: of course i have, it uses the same dma channel 22.33.10 # How many DMA channels are there? 22.33.12 # 2 22.33.20 # Bah, not good :( 22.33.25 # not very 22.33.33 # The other is used for playback? 22.33.36 # yes 22.33.56 # Hmm. Why does the SH1 have 4 DMA channels, but the coldfire only has 2? :/ 22.34.06 # we could use the same for playback and recording 22.34.07 # can recording and playback not share a DMA channel? 22.34.27 # however, it might be nice to be able to play and record simultaneously 22.34.32 # (2) Do you think a non-DMA lcd driver that uses burst-reading would be as fast (or even faster) than your DMA version? 22.34.37 # especially for voice 22.35.07 # I still have no H300, hope to get one from ebay after xmas 22.35.11 # doesn't it use the same bus between controller and uda? 22.35.19 # amiconn: i don't think you can make it as fast 22.35.30 # but definitely faster than the current one 22.35.42 # Is it possible to write the GRAM backwards? 22.35.49 # yes 22.35.56 # i think so 22.36.04 # Good, that'll save some insns 22.36.54 # Burst-reading 4 longwords and then writing as 8 words is easier when starting with the low word of each longword 22.37.00 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@chan530-a228.otenet.gr) 22.37.01 # petur: there are different in and out busses 22.37.06 # btw, Linus, you probably saw my recording patch is ready :) 22.37.20 # petur: nice 22.37.49 # so we leave the dma alone for lcd then? 22.37.56 # i think so 22.38.00 # pity 22.38.10 # the 5250 has 4 channels :-) 22.38.27 # iaudio here i come 22.38.35 # <_FireFly_> ;) 22.38.47 # too bad the 5250 data sheet pdf is corrupt... :-( 22.38.57 # or rather, the user's manual pdf 22.39.17 # movem.l and then 4x move.w / swap / move.w 22.39.29 # I do think that the number of times we'll need recording+voice is _far_ less than the times we want quick lcd updates... tradeoff? 22.40.51 # blind users might not agree... 22.41.00 # petur: that depends on how much slower the lcd is 22.41.11 # we could change it dynamically 22.41.19 # use dma when not recording 22.41.26 # You said the DMA solution was 20% faster? 22.41.33 # something like that 22.41.54 # 40 -> 50 fps 22.42.09 # it could have been a lot faster if we could use burst accesses 22.42.18 # which we can't 22.42.51 # however, your solution can use bursts in dram, which the dam couldn't 22.42.55 # dma 22.43.07 # could the LCD DMA potentially have caused playing problems when playing music and disk reading? 22.43.12 # so your solution might be just as fast 22.43.36 # lostlogicx: i doubt it 22.47.13 # this is distressing. I'm getting strange semi-random freezes playing Kelly Clarkson - Thankful. I think my iRiver is telling me to listen to better music. 22.47.36 # :D 22.47.53 # FireFly- you workin away...is that why you got quiet? 22.47.55 # and it's not my hackage of Tremor that's causing it either, because I just reverted to a clean codebase. 22.48.56 # <_FireFly_> dropandho: not really :) 22.49.50 # hehe- its ok! 22.49.57 # im just being nosey 22.50.02 # but it is all pretty exciting 22.50.09 # i appreciate your commitment to the remote issues! 22.50.14 # <_FireFly_> LinusN: what do you think about this idea to make the vkeyboard multiscreen-capable: http://home.arcor.de/s.wezel/design-papers/rb-vkeyboard-design-paper.txt 22.50.16 # LinusN: Reading line-bursts from DRAM is 2.5 times as fast as reading longwords 22.50.36 # ...and even more compared to reading words 22.53.46 Join Rob- [0] (n=robbie@haylott.plus.com) 22.55.13 # LinusN: H3x0 uses the 80-system 16bit interface? 22.56.50 # Hi, is it a known bug that the latest daily build won't record on h340? 22.57.08 # use the bleeding edge 22.57.35 # is it fixed now? 22.57.40 # yes 22.58.03 # I'll probably wait for the daily as I don't have a build environment setup. 22.58.27 # <_FireFly_> http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-h300/rockbox.zip 22.58.32 # thanks 22.58.34 # <_FireFly_> no need for a build env 22.58.49 # oh:-) 22.59.06 # <_FireFly_> after each cvs commit this build will be updated 23.00.09 # excelent, thanks! 23.02.36 Join San [0] (n=test@A-71-213.cust.iol.ie) 23.03.59 Join bazz [0] (n=nick@mail.uwcaw.uwc.org) 23.04.40 Quit arkascha (Remote closed the connection) 23.05.49 Join DrMoos [0] (i=DrMoos@m181.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 23.06.12 # (iRiver) the two gain settings (recording settings, recording screen) are very confusing as one is the decimator, the other the analog gain. 23.06.38 # apart from the naming issue, shouldn't it be possible to change both from the recording screen? 23.07.04 Quit Moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.07.11 Nick DrMoos is now known as Moos (i=DrMoos@m181.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 23.11.51 # mmmm 23.11.54 # http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dump00412no.png 23.11.59 # what do you think? 23.12.01 # =] 23.12.15 # hello ! hello !!! 23.12.21 # wow 23.12.47 # =] 23.13.16 # it will going out on some days 23.13.28 # few 23.13.29 # * 23.13.31 # =] 23.14.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.14.47 # <_FireFly_> LinusN: ? any commments about the idea? 23.14.59 # you scared him away! 23.15.49 # <_FireFly_> mayby he is on the way to me to kick my ass into the space ;) 23.16.08 # amiconn: yes, it uses the 16-bit 80-system 23.16.15 # <_FireFly_> s/mayby/maybe 23.17.15 # _FireFly_: looks much like the one recently discussed in this channel 23.17.45 # seems to be a good idea 23.18.34 # <_FireFly_> yepp it is the idea from amiconn i have put it only into the file and added some suggestion how the data-struct good be defined 23.19.19 # <_FireFly_> s/good/could 23.20.16 # I hope my recent mpeg.c fix actually works. Can't test them in the simulator, and I have no SH1-compiler around at the moment... :) 23.20.20 # Haha, the H3x0 display controller offers an inverse display mode. Might look funny with complemented colours :) 23.20.34 # Flip display in hardware seems to be possible as well 23.20.41 # yes 23.20.58 # Paprica: cool 23.21.08 # Do we want 8 colour mode for speed? ;) 23.21.10 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 23.21.10 # * amiconn hides 23.21.12 # Paprica: i want it for h100 and archos as well .-) 23.21.26 # amiconn: 8-color mode doesn't give a speedup 23.21.34 # it's only a power saving mode 23.21.55 # let me finish it for h3xx first =] 23.22.57 # Ah I see. 23.23.23 # <_FireFly_> LinusN: btw in the same dir is also a first attempt to define a token-based wps-handling 23.25.49 # _FireFly_: the wps paper doesn't mention what problem it attemps to solve 23.27.23 # but the real question is...does it solve it?! hehe 23.28.51 # <_FireFly_> it doesn't attemps to solve any problems it is only an idea how the current wps-handling could be rewritten as someone in this channel had said that it should be rewritten 23.29.25 # <_FireFly_> the idea was orginaly from TiMiD 23.30.05 # yes, it should be rewritten, but not just because we feel the need to rewrite something 23.30.30 # <_FireFly_> yepp 23.30.45 # _FireFly_: btw, this kind of "papers" really belongs in the wiki 23.31.00 # indeed, as that make people actually discover them 23.31.23 Part ratpack91 23.32.31 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 23.33.12 Quit matsl (Client Quit) 23.33.32 # <_FireFly_> ok i will add these two ones to the wiki 23.36.15 # any dev with an H1xx willing to try the pre-recording patch? (just to be sure it also works ok on that one as well) 23.36.24 # thanks for the work tho! 23.36.29 # hope they didnt discourage u 23.37.35 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.39.10 Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.69 [Firefox 1.5/0000000000]") 23.40.09 # LinusN, there is a option now to build a clock for h3xx? 23.40.29 # no 23.40.38 # ok =]