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00.01.09 #       <ataxy> ok found it lol i knew exactly where it was lol 
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00.38.51 #       <preglow> amiconn: arm code is huge, 32 bits per instruction + 32 bits each time you need a const that isnt eight bits
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00.56.28 #       <preglow> we'll want to have a look at it using thumb code. i tried giving it a go, but seems you need to specify that intent already while building gcc, or big parts of libgcc wont be able to work
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01.06.00 #       <linuxstb> preglow: Did you read in the logs about Paul_The_Nerd's experiences with Rockbox on his Nano?
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02.02.22 #       <citizen> hey
02.02.24 #       <citizen> help?
02.02.37 #       <citizen> is roxbox suported on ipod nano 2gb
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02.03.38 #       <citizen> lol
02.05.06 #       <bagawk> citizen: I am not sure
02.05.08 #       * bagawk looks
02.05.30 #       <bagawk> It is certainly not going to be in an useable state
02.06.33 #       <bagawk> 18 December 2005 - Rockbox boots and runs on the iPod Color/Photo, the Nano and the Video. Plugins and codecs work, but there is no audio output yet. There are also bugs which can cause occasional lockups when loading a plugin or codec. 
02.08.12 #       <citizen> i see
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03.38.11 #       <webguest67> g'day rockbox
03.38.28 #       <aussiechris01> g'day
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04.59.07 #       <aussiechris01> is anybody else here having trouble patching the latest version of the iriver H3xx firmware to work with rockbox?
04.59.57 #       <aussiechris01> it is labeled as 1.29 on the iriver page (supported by the patcher), but downloads as version 1.30 (not supported by the patcher)
05.00.18 #       <aussiechris01> and obviously, won't patch
05.00.44 #       <aussiechris01> anybody able to get around this? or have a version of the 1.29 firmware
05.03.44 #       <aussiechris01> don't worry. I got 1.29 from Rashers archive. Are we able to patch 1.30 somehow though? 
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06.48.43 #       <webguest51> does the toshiba gigabeat show up as a hard drive in my computer
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06.50.48 #       <afruff> does  toshiba gigabeat show up as a hard drive in my computer?
06.52.19 #       <afruff> anybody there???????
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06.57.51 #       <afruff23> anybody online
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07.37.46 #       <Slasheri> amiconn: Hmm, interesting. It should update on background even on archos
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07.39.12 #       <Slasheri> amiconn: at least the stack size is currently too big. Decreasing it should free a few kBs
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07.43.11 #       <Slasheri> amiconn: ah, maybe the thread limit was hit on archos. Try increasing maximum thread count
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08.05.14 #       <amiconn> Slasheri: The stack has no influence on the binary size, as it is bss
08.05.27 #       <Slasheri> amiconn: ah, ok
08.05.44 #       <amiconn> All platforms have 2 'reserve' threads, so it shouldn't be the thread limit either
08.06.14 #       <Slasheri> amiconn: but it's weird if nothing happened when you tried that force update thing.. it really seems the thread was never initialized
08.06.23 #       <Slasheri> hmm
08.06.50 #       <Slasheri> in fact.. i forgot to diff the init code to the patch :D
08.09.06 #       <Slasheri> amiconn: http://ihme.org/~miipekk/rockbox/tagcache_snapshot.patch
08.09.12 #       <Slasheri> now it hopefully includes everything..
08.11.26 #       <amiconn> tagtree: ~2KB, tagcache ~4.5KB, crc32: ~1.2KB
08.11.55 #       <Slasheri> so at least 1 kB will be removed with that crc32 thing
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08.38.22 #       <amiconn> Exact code size increase: 8288 bytes. I hope this will decrease a bit when you remove old db related code
08.38.49 #       <Paprica> öö
08.38.51 #       <Paprica> mm
08.39.05 #       <Paprica> how can i split somthing form string?
08.39.20 #       <Paprica> somthing like:
08.39.28 #       <Paprica> "music/lol/dd"
08.39.35 #       <Paprica> i want only dd
08.39.36 #       <amiconn> Slasheri: Now something happens... lots of disk accesses
08.40.43 #       <amiconn> Let's see how long this will take... ~3300 mp3s on my recorder
08.41.29 #       <Paprica> Slasheri: do you know how? =\
08.41.41 #       <amiconn> Hmm, now it stopped... but the db view shows nothing
08.42.17 #       <Slasheri> amiconn: sounds good
08.42.22 #       <Slasheri> now you need to reboot the player
08.42.28 #       <Slasheri> the db will be committed on next boot
08.42.43 #       <amiconn> Bah, now I get a CPUAdrErr
08.42.48 #       <Slasheri> :/
08.42.49 #       <amiconn> at boot!
08.42.59 #       <Slasheri> that's not good..
08.43.08 #       <amiconn> I09 CPUAdrErr at 0901B320
08.43.16 #       <amiconn> Let's see what module that is
08.43.18 #       <Slasheri> i think it might be alignment problem then
08.43.35 #       <Slasheri> because the structs are not strictly aligned in memory
08.43.55 #       <amiconn> This can't work
08.44.00 #       <amiconn> on SH1
08.44.06 #       <Slasheri> probably the function unique_insert might cause that
08.44.09 #       <amiconn> and on coldfire, it's a speed penalty
08.44.24 #       <Slasheri> but it will be hard for me to fix that without a unit to try out :/
08.44.29 #       <Slasheri> yes, i know
08.45.05 #       <BHSPitMonkey> so just wondering, what's rockbox's stance on ipods?
08.45.51 #       <Slasheri> amiconn: but it looks like the db was built quite fast?
08.46.16 #       <amiconn> Yes... that was perhaps 3 minutes
08.46.19 #       <Slasheri> nice
08.46.37 #       <amiconn> Somehow I doubt that the db is complete...
08.46.58 #       <Slasheri> Hmm
08.47.27 #       <Slasheri> amiconn: but if you can, try to do something to the unique_insert function
08.48.05 #       <amiconn> tagcache_0.tcd: 0 bytes, tagcache_idx.tcd: 0 bytes, tagcache_tmp.tcd: 116699 bytes
08.48.09 #       <amiconn> That's all
08.48.20 #       <Slasheri> looks like correct
08.48.30 #       <Slasheri> nothing were committed to the index files yet
08.48.52 #       <Slasheri> please remove all tagcache_ files except tagcache_tmp.tcd before trying again
08.48.54 #       <amiconn> For comparison: rockbox.tagdb: 1293176 bytes
08.49.01 #       <amiconn> 10 times the size...
08.49.06 #       <Slasheri> interesting
08.49.23 #       <amiconn> How large is your 5000-song db?
08.49.41 #       <Slasheri> just a moment
08.51.02 #       <Slasheri> 6.8K tagcache_0.tcd, 11K tagcache_1.tcd, 813, tagcache_2.tcd, 91K tagcache_3.tcd, 353K tagcache_4.tcd, 101K tagcache_idx.tcd
08.51.30 #       <Slasheri> tagcache_4.tcd contains the filenames.. so it looks like your tagcache_tmp is too small
08.53.12 #       <amiconn> The crash does indeed happen in unique_insert
08.53.21 #       <Slasheri> ah, good
08.53.25 #       <Slasheri> then it should be easy to fix it
08.53.33 #       <Slasheri> just make sure the buffer is long aligned
08.54.21 #       <Slasheri> or in fact
08.54.45 #       <Slasheri> try add another short variable to the struct tagfile_entry for padding
08.54.50 #       <Slasheri> that should do it
08.55.19 #       <amiconn> Seems the problem is tagcache.c line 717
08.55.25 #       <Slasheri> or just change the short to long
08.56.12 #       <amiconn> This compiles  to 'mov.w r11,@r8', and if r8 is not word aligned...
08.56.31 #       <Slasheri> hehe, true. sounds pretty clear then :)
08.58.37 #       <amiconn> It's not necessarily clear
08.58.48 #       <amiconn> YOu do entry = (struct tagfile_entry *)tempbuf;
08.58.58 #       <amiconn> but tempbuf is a char array
08.59.07 #       <amiconn> so this can't work
08.59.47 #       <Slasheri> hmm, really?
08.59.56 #       <Slasheri> even if the entry is correctly aligned?
09.00.06 #       <amiconn> If it is aligned, then it will work
09.00.19 #       <amiconn> but I expect it's not aligned in 50% of the cases
09.00.25 #       <Slasheri> yep.. so try changing the short to long in struct tagfile_entry definition
09.00.41 #       <Slasheri> then we will need to make sure of that.. when allocating tempbuf
09.00.47 #       <amiconn> Then the problem will happen in 75% of the cases...
09.00.55 #       <Slasheri> hmm
09.00.56 #       <amiconn> ...and it will waste space
09.01.23 #       <Slasheri> yes, correct.. But that is disk space only on archos
09.01.32 #       <Slasheri> for iriver, we might want to disable that padding
09.01.37 #       <amiconn> struct tagfile_entry is variable-length
09.01.55 #       <Slasheri> ah, indeed
09.01.58 #       <amiconn> We can keep the short, but we need to align
09.02.01 #       <Slasheri> padding would not help then
09.02.05 #       <Slasheri> yes
09.02.12 #       <amiconn> ..at allocation
09.04.14 #       <Slasheri> i think that aligning this: entry = (struct tagfile_entry *)&entry->tag_data[entry->tag_length]; and tempbuf itself should fix it
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09.30.54 #       <BHSPitMonkey> hello, just wondering, where can I snag a copy of sh-elf-gcc
09.31.04 #       <BHSPitMonkey> +?
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09.41.34 #       <Lost-ash> BHSPitMonkey: for what? cygwin? linux? you might have to compile it from gcc-core's source
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09.48.33 #       <BHSPitMonkey> linux, and i'm working on a doc i found
09.49.10 #       <Lost-ash> there should be a guide in the rockbox wiki on how to build sh-elf-gcc
09.49.15 #       <Lost-ash> (and binutils for sh-elf
09.50.12 #       <BHSPitMonkey> yeah
09.50.32 #       <BHSPitMonkey> so would I not be able to use those three packages that i already have
09.50.46 #       <BHSPitMonkey> or do i have to re-download them for the different type of build
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10.06.08 #       <BHSPitMonkey> neva-mind...
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10.19.02 #       <Jungti1234> help me
10.19.16 #       <Jungti1234> CC button.c
10.19.16 #       <Jungti1234> gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1': No such file or directory
10.19.16 #       <Jungti1234> make[1]: *** [/home/guest/rockbox/h120sim/sim/button.o] Error 1
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10.19.16 #       <Jungti1234> make: *** [all] Error 2
10.19.37 #       <Jungti1234> What mean is it?
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11.01.10 #       <Jungti1234> hello
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11.24.56 #       <Bger> hello, Jungti1234
11.34.23 #       <amiconn> Slasheri: I'll try this in the evening. What about the other files, i.e. _1 _2 _3 _4? I didn't get them, and _0 was 0 bytes...
11.34.46 #       <amiconn> Also, does the _4 contain the pure filenames, or filename+path?
11.34.59 #       <Slasheri> amiconn: you didn't get them because the committing was crashed
11.35.06 #       <Slasheri> it will first create file _0, then _1, ...
11.35.16 #       <amiconn> I'm confused...
11.35.20 #       <Slasheri> it contains the full filenames
11.35.35 #       <amiconn> I thought the background build would build the whole database
11.35.37 #       <Slasheri> hehe, just check the files with hexedit if you are interested :)
11.35.47 #       <Slasheri> no, it can't do that..
11.35.54 #       <amiconn> why?
11.36.02 #       <Slasheri> because it needs reserve more memory to build the unique indexes
11.36.20 #       <Slasheri> so it will allocate the memory at boot, commit the changes and free the memory after that
11.36.27 #       <amiconn> Hmm, so that will happen non-transparent at boot?
11.36.38 #       <amiconn> Bad...
11.36.47 #       <Slasheri> yes, but it doesn't take long
11.37.02 #       <Slasheri> and it happens only if there has been changes to the database
11.37.16 #       <Slasheri> the more changes, the more it takes to commit them
11.37.28 #       <amiconn> Everything adding to boot time is too much :/ One reason why I still prefer archos - faster boot time
11.37.53 #       <Slasheri> once the database is fully built, there is no increase to the boot time..
11.37.57 #       <amiconn> Boot time < 1 s would be ideal, but that's not possible :(
11.39.27 #       <amiconn> Hmm.
11.40.06 #       <amiconn> Would it be possible to use the audio buffer for a forced rebuild? Playback would need to be stoppedn, but then no action would be necessary at boot
11.40.24 #       <saab_rider> hello Bger
11.41.34 #       <Slasheri> amiconn: yes, it would be possible
11.43.05 #       <Slasheri> amiconn: so, after disk is scanned, playback would get stopped automatically and database commit started?
11.43.51 #       <saab_rider> Bger: I haven't been able to apply the H300 remote patch to the recent daily builds, it fails when patching...
11.44.14 #       <amiconn> Perhaps more convenient: Commit using the audio buffer if no playback is running, otherwise delay until next boot
11.44.31 #       <Slasheri> amiconn: ah, that sounds like a good idea
11.45.04 #       <Slasheri> amiconn: but then we need somehow make sure that user can't start the playback while committing..
11.45.09 #       <amiconn> yes
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11.46.46 #       <amiconn> How long does the commit take?
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11.52.32 #       <Bger> saab_rider last version ?
11.52.50 #       <Bger> amiconn could i ask you something ?
11.54.36 #       <Slasheri> amiconn: hmm, i would say a few seconds with large db.. Something like 10s
11.58.27 #       <Bger> any advices how to get around the problem with h100 and h300 remotes' button mappings? it seems that users of h100 remotes don't like h100's mappings to be the same as h300's ones (that is, "mode" button on h100 to do the same like the one on h300... etc, in fact even the same as one on the player)
11.58.31 #       <saab_rider> Bger: well I did download it less than a week ago...
11.58.33 #       <amiconn> Hmm, I'll see this evening. The other puzzling thing is why the _tmp file was so small
11.59.15 #       <Slasheri> amiconn: yep, that is interesting.. unfortunately logf wont work on archos? :/
11.59.28 #       <amiconn> Bger: I have no idea, I don't use the remote for real
11.59.41 #       <saab_rider> Bger: V 4.1 is the one I used...
11.59.56 #       <amiconn> I would sell it if wouldn't be necessary for development from time to time
12.00.24 #       <amiconn> Slasheri: logf() does work, of course not 'live' on a remote LCD
12.00.37 #       <Bger> amiconn the only idea i have is to s/get_button_w_tmo()/__get_button_w_tmo() ; make __get_button_w_tmo a macro that calls directly the func on all non-iriver targets
12.00.41 #       <Slasheri> amiconn: ah, so it can write the output to disk? that sounds good
12.01.01 #       <Bger> and on iriver make it real function which changes the button codes according to a map .... 
12.01.13 #       <Bger> this is ugly :(
12.01.17 #       <Slasheri> amiconn: try to save the logfdump to disk after scanning the disk. Maybe an error could be found from there
12.01.51 #       <Bger> and must be done in not only 1 place ...
12.02.09 #       <amiconn> Slasheri: Output to disk and view-in-debug-menu are possible
12.02.27 #       <Slasheri> amiconn: ok, that is good then
12.03.16 #       <Bger> Slasheri, amiconn ? opinions ?
12.06.05 #       <Slasheri> Bger: so you would remap the buttons so that user could configure them?
12.06.27 #       <Bger> that's not the main idea ...
12.06.53 #       <Bger> more likely the h100's remote will stay the current, and h300's remote will be the same as the one on the main unit
12.07.11 #       <Bger> s/the one/the ones
12.07.30 #       <Paprica> mmm who can help me in C?
12.07.48 #       <Bger> there is an old talk against the user selectable button functions iirc
12.07.55 #       <Bger> brb
12.18.55 #       <Lost-ash> while(Paprica.knows_little = 0) { teach(Paprica); }
12.19.07 #       <Paprica> =[
12.19.08 #       <Paprica> =]
12.19.09 #       <Paprica> **
12.19.12 Ctcp    Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
12.19.12 #       * Lost-ash wonders if anyone will notices the subtle bug ;)
12.19.25 #       <Paprica> ==
12.19.45 #       <Paprica> while(Paprica.knows_little == 0) teach(Paprica);
12.19.49 #       <Paprica> èíå âíîà î÷÷â
12.19.53 #       <Paprica> =]
12.20.03 #       <Lost-ash> heh. there's more
12.20.04 #       <Slasheri> hehe, now Paprica knows a little more ;)
12.20.12 #       <Paprica> LOLL
12.20.16 #       <Lost-ash> Slasheri: can you spot the other one? 
12.21.06 #       <Slasheri> Lost-ash: if paprica doesn't know anything, that loop will never happen ;)
12.22.05 #       <Lost-ash> hm. well, that, and teach(Paprica); isn't passing a pointer, so is probably not going to  be able to affect the version being tested.
12.22.16 #       <Bger> haha
12.22.19 #       <Slasheri> hehe, true :)
12.22.25 #       <Paprica> @@
12.22.35 #       <Bger> but it could be ... how was its name ...
12.22.36 #       * Lost-ash <-- been doing too much java, too used to using ., not ->
12.22.39 #       <Bger> in C++
12.22.49 #       <Lost-ash> Bger: pass by reference? does that work on structs?
12.22.52 #       <Bger> int &var
12.22.53 #       <Lost-ash> (or classes)
12.23.02 #       * Lost-ash forgets
12.23.14 #       <Lost-ash> been a bloody long time since i've studied C++
12.23.20 #       <Bger> :P
12.23.26 #       <Bger> ok, i really need opinionn
12.23.29 #       <Bger> -n
12.23.41 #       <Bger> what to do with these fscking remotes
12.24.01 #       <Paprica> so you can help? =]
12.24.17 #       <Bger> Paprica just ask :)
12.24.22 #       <Slasheri> Paprica: depends if you ask the question :P
12.24.28 #       <Paprica> mm
12.24.56 #       <Paprica> i want to split some text from string
12.24.58 #       <Paprica> mm
12.25.18 #       <Paprica> "music/blah/bla"
12.25.21 #       <Bger> Slasheri what if simply make remote and main unit's button to act the same way ?
12.25.23 #       <Paprica> i want to take only bla
12.25.36 #       <Paprica> i can do it?
12.25.42 #       <Bger> strrchr(str,'/')
12.25.51 #       <Bger> will give you the last /
12.25.55 #       <Slasheri> Bger: hmm, maybe. I don't know..
12.26.08 #       <Bger> i.e. pointer to last /
12.26.44 #       <Paprica> 10x
12.26.54 #       <Bger> np
12.26.59 #       <Slasheri> yep, just char *p = strrchr(str, '/'); if (p == NULL) { error; } p--; printf("last: %s", p);
12.27.17 #       <Slasheri> oh, p++;
12.27.31 #       <Bger> yep :)
12.27.35 #       <Bger> Slasheri ?
12.27.58 #       <rayo> cool 16bit images work for me now, but only with an ugly hack :)
12.28.10 #       <Bger> oh, i see that nearly noone here uses remotes ...
12.30.31 #       <Bger> saab_rider are you patching a clean cvs tree ?
12.31.01 #       <Paprica> mm how i can delete the "/" from ths start?
12.31.02 #       <Paprica> @@
12.31.11 #       <Slasheri> Paprica: p++ does it
12.31.26 #       <Paprica> aha =]
12.32.07 #       <Bger> Paprica do you want to remove all chars before (including) the last "/" from *this* string or you just want to have the part after the last "/"
12.32.23 #       <Paprica> after the last /
12.32.51 #       <Bger> i mean do you want to *change* the string or just to find the last part of it
12.33.41 #       <Bger> s/find/use
12.33.44 #       <Paprica> i want to find the last and delete the "/" before the text
12.34.03 #       <Bger> hm...
12.34.43 #       <Bger> then you could do something like ... hm
12.35.48 #       <Slasheri> that pointer thing should do it
12.35.58 #       <Bger> char *p;
12.36.03 #       <Slasheri> probably you don't want change the original pointer locations
12.36.19 #       <Bger> p=strrchr(str,'/'); 
12.36.39 #       <Bger> p++; memmove(str,p,strlen(p)+1);
12.37.16 #       <Bger> ah, and check whether p!= NULL of course
12.37.34 #       <Paprica> ok 10q
12.38.33 #       <Bger> the "+1" in "strlen(p)+1" is for the \0 terminating char
12.39.01 #       <amiconn> rockbox doesn't have memmove (yet)
12.39.11 #       <Bger> doesn't?
12.39.15 #       <Bger> heh
12.39.19 #       <Paprica> =
12.39.21 #       <Paprica> =\
12.39.25 #       <Bger> even a C based one ?
12.41.11 #       <Paprica> ok
12.41.12 #       <Paprica> char *p = strrchr(c->currdir, '/');
12.41.12 #       <Paprica> p++;
12.41.12 DBUG    Enqueued KICK Paprica
12.41.12 #       <Paprica> if(p!=NULL)
12.41.12 #       <Paprica> if(menu_plugins_load==false)
12.41.12 ***     Alert Mode level 1
12.41.12 #       <Paprica> status_set_title(p);
12.41.14 #       <Paprica> it works
12.41.17 #       <Paprica> 10q all =]
12.41.30 #       <Paprica> blah
12.41.32 #       <Paprica> i can do
12.41.33 #       <Paprica> &&
12.41.33 #       <Paprica> =\
12.41.48 #       <Bger> yep :)
12.41.57 #       <Paprica> =]
12.42.03 #       <Bger> if(!p && !menu_plugins_load)
12.42.36 #       <Paprica> ok
12.42.36 #       <Bger> hehe u've learned pascal etc for sure 
12.42.50 #       <Paprica> yep in school
12.43.09 #       <Bger> this "if(something == true)" :)
12.43.23 #       <Paprica> =*
12.43.23 #       <Paprica> =]
12.43.54 #       <amiconn> You need to check for != NULL before doing p++
12.44.06 #       <Bger> ah, yes :)
12.44.11 #       <saab_rider> Bger: I might've patched it after I did some changes to lcd.h and a few of the sources for some of the .rocks
12.44.30 #       <Paprica> ahha char *p = strrchr(c->currdir, '/');
12.44.30 #       <Paprica> if(!p && !menu_plugins_load)
12.44.30 #       <Paprica> status_set_title(++p);
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12.44.35 #       <Paprica> now its good?
12.44.35 #       <Paprica> =]
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12.44.57 #       <aussiechris> g'day everyone
12.45.09 #       <saab_rider> I only changed the RGB values in lcd.h, and I don't think editing the .rock sources would affect the patch
12.45.45 #       <Bger> Paprica looks like it is
12.45.56 #       <Paprica> ok
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12.48.12 #       <Slasheri> Paprica: no, p is valid if it's *not* NULL
12.48.37 #       <Slasheri> so you should have if (p && !menu_plugins_load) ..
12.48.45 #       <Bger> uf :))
12.49.10 #       <Paprica> ok =] 10x
12.51.13 ***     Alert Mode OFF
12.54.20 #       <Bger> Paprica sorry ... :)
12.54.27 #       <Paprica> np
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12.57.33 #       <Bger> saab_rider ah, yes
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13.08.40 #       <saab_rider> Bger: are you still using the patch with one of the newer builds?
13.10.00 #       <Bger> saab_rider i'll supply newer version in 10-20 min
13.10.24 #       <Bger> the problem is that the "patch" program is sillier than the cvs ...
13.11.23 #       <saab_rider> that's great :)
13.12.23 #       <saab_rider> btw, with one of the older builds, about 16th of Dec. or soemthing, when I used your patch, I ended up with an empty remote LCD.... the remote would work, only nothing showed up on the remote's LCD
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13.13.28 #       <Jungti1234> hey all
13.13.35 #       <Bger> saab_rider huh  ?
13.13.47 #       <Jungti1234> Is Rockbox support plan of real file?
13.14.05 #       <Bger> btw, i had something simillar 
13.14.26 #       <Bger> but it shouldn't have anything with my patch
13.14.39 #       <aussiechris> anybody here have the iriver H3xx?
13.14.45 #       <Jungti1234> I have
13.14.47 #       <Bger> just the remote's LCD isn't initialized
13.14.51 #       <aussiechris> does it have a reset button
13.14.55 #       <Bger> yes
13.14.56 #       <aussiechris> i heard it did#
13.15.03 #       <Bger> next to the internal mic
13.15.08 #       <Bger> there is one tiny hole
13.15.14 #       <aussiechris> ahh
13.15.16 #       <aussiechris> brilliant
13.15.18 #       <saab_rider> with the LCD? well I'm not sure if back then it patched successfully or not, because I did it in a rush.... but looking forward to the new version 
13.15.18 #       <aussiechris> thanks
13.15.42 #       <aussiechris> i was looking all over and even tried the holes on the bottom!
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13.16.33 #       <aussiechris> back up and working. thanks bger
13.16.53 #       <Bger> for nothing
13.17.51 #       <aussiechris> u saved me from owning a very expensive hockey puck
13.18.09 #       <Bger> haha
13.18.25 #       <Bger> man, this sf is so sloow
13.18.38 #       <aussiechris> csv issues?
13.19.10 #       <Bger> no, tracker issues :)
13.19.29 #       <Withnail> just installed the h100 version of rockbox and i'm impressed anyway. hell, even the backlight is slicker than it was
13.19.39 #       <saab_rider> sourceforge, yeah, takes for ever, are you uploading already?
13.19.55 #       <Bger> saab_rider: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1367824&group_id=44306&atid=439120 
13.20.21 #       <saab_rider> thanks Bger :)
13.20.57 #       <Bger> np
13.21.07 #       <Jungti1234> Is Rockbox support plan of real file?
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13.22.11 #       <Bger> Jungti1234 i don't know
13.22.22 #       <saab_rider> Bger, could you help me with a bit of code I've been editing? I understand nothing of the code :) I used a few lines which added color to pong, and tried to apply them to snake, but after compiling, snake would crash whenever I start it...
13.22.33 #       <Bger> probably the answer for the near future is "no"
13.22.46 #       <Bger> saab_rider hmm
13.23.21 #       <saab_rider> the added lines worked fine with pong, and I compiled it successfully, but it failed with snake
13.23.34 #       <saab_rider> I probably placed the lines in the wrong place
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13.24.18 #       <rayo> is anyone rewriting the wps parsing code to tokenbased? then it should make that the images are drawn first
13.26.37 #       <saab_rider> rayo: good to know you're still working on support for 16bit images in the WPS :)
13.27.50 #       <Jungti1234> Then, is pl file plan to support?
13.28.05 #       <rayo> it's working :) but the images are over the text parts
13.29.31 #       <saab_rider> rayo: what exactly did you get to work?
13.29.59 #       <rayo> loading and displaying a 24bit image on a 16bit image
13.30.11 #       <rayo> replace last image with lcd :)
13.31.14 #       <saab_rider> is it possible to take a screen dump of what you manged to get on the screen?
13.31.26 #       <Bger> saab_rider yes
13.31.36 #       <rayo> http://80.238.129.209/rbcolor.jpg
13.31.36 #       <Bger> first u enable the screen dump feature
13.31.47 #       <rayo> it's only in the uisimulator
13.32.06 #       <Jungti1234> hahaha
13.32.07 #       <Jungti1234> good
13.32.10 #       <saab_rider> wow!
13.32.32 #       <saab_rider> can you imagine album art in the WPS?!
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13.33.18 #       <Jungti1234> (I think that is 'Yes'.)
13.33.34 #       <rayo> i think for albumart we need a jpg loading library and then scale down the picture
13.33.41 #       <Bger> saab_rider did you test it ?
13.33.56 #       <saab_rider> downloading the latest build
13.34.55 #       <saab_rider> plus SF is currently down for maintinance :)
13.38.26 #       <rayo> http://80.238.129.209/rbcolor2.jpg (with an albumart, manually scaled and converted to bmp)
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13.39.06 #       <Paprica> lol
13.39.08 #       <Jungti1234> oh
13.39.08 #       <Paprica> nice
13.39.10 #       <Jungti1234> wow
13.39.16 #       <saab_rider> would need to be scaled down even more...
13.39.27 #       <saab_rider> what's that green line btw?
13.39.56 #       <Jungti1234> play time bar?
13.40.09 #       <rayo> its a hangover from the old wps i edited :)
13.40.15 #       <Paprica> mmm how can i change the text font to font from fonts folder?
13.40.19 #       <Paprica> in the code
13.40.25 #       <rayo> i edited the bitmaps of marquee wps
13.40.30 #       <Paprica> not in the player
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13.42.16 #       <Paprica> blah some one?!
13.42.33 #       <Jungti1234> I want answer...
13.43.04 #       <rayo> now the green line is gone and the image is more scaled (same link)
13.43.19 #       <Jungti1234> hehe..
13.43.27 #       <Jungti1234> Look like better.
13.43.50 #       <saab_rider> that's looking promising :)
13.44.17 #       <Jungti1234> I can't make simulator.
13.44.31 #       <saab_rider> how hard is it to get a jpg loading library?
13.44.32 #       <Jungti1234> It spits error.
13.45.21 #       <Paprica> http://img399.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dump0512271443195kn.png
13.45.22 #       <Paprica> =]
13.45.52 #       <rayo> i don't know, i never coded c before :)
13.46.14 #       <Jungti1234> nice!!, Paprica 
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13.46.36 #       <Paprica> 10x
13.47.11 #       <Jungti1234> It looks like better than now. :)
13.47.22 #       <saab_rider> paprica: this is the title tag in the status bar, right?
13.47.33 #       <Paprica> yep
13.47.56 #       <saab_rider> did you add a title for all the screens?
13.48.59 #       <Paprica> the title is from the seledted item
13.49.09 #       <Paprica> selected*
13.49.55 #       <saab_rider> what do you mean from the selected item?
13.50.08 #       <Paprica> mm
13.50.14 #       <Paprica> in the menu
13.50.17 #       <Paprica> you select item
13.50.27 #       <Paprica> and it shows another menu right?
13.51.23 #       <saab_rider> yeah...
13.51.57 #       <Jungti1234> rayo: Screen dump presses keypad 0.
13.52.44 #       <Paprica> good, the title is from the select item in the privious menu
13.53.06 #       <rayo> ok i'll use it when the text is over the image :D
13.53.06 #       <Paprica> (how write privious?)
13.53.14 #       <saab_rider> previous
13.53.19 #       <Paprica> good =]
13.53.30 #       <Paprica> now its clear?
13.54.04 #       <saab_rider> ah, so it's not the current screen's title? but the title of the above menu?
13.54.39 #       <saab_rider> actually, it is the current menu's title....
13.55.10 #       <saab_rider> so if you selected extras, the submenu will show "extras" in the status bar, right?
13.57.09 #       <Paprica> yep
13.57.56 #       <Jungti1234> I want to use that. :P
13.58.32 #       <Paprica> wait =]
13.58.35 #       <saab_rider> but will the title be the exact same text that's selected, or would there be a shortened text for longer names?
13.59.15 #       <Paprica> no short name for longer names
13.59.40 #       <Jungti1234> T.T English is very hard.
14.00.00 #       <Paprica> for me too =\
14.00.20 #       <saab_rider> but wouldn't some of the titles not fit if there were other icons visible?
14.00.24 #       <Jungti1234> But, you do well English than me.
14.00.28 #       <Jungti1234> heheh :)
14.00.40 #       <saab_rider> Jungti "T.T"?
14.00.49 #       <Jungti1234> :'(
14.00.51 #       <Jungti1234> same
14.01.04 #       <Paprica> Jungti1234 nice =]
14.01.09 #       <Paprica> mm
14.01.24 #       <Paprica> i disable the another icons
14.01.34 #       <Jungti1234> =] = :) = ^^
14.01.57 #       <saab_rider> oh, ok.... 
14.02.15 #       <Paprica> =]
14.02.25 #       <Paprica> its a lite status bar
14.02.31 #       <Paprica> ;]
14.02.48 #       <Paprica> http://img399.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dump0512271459266sk.png
14.02.52 #       <Paprica> another thing
14.02.57 #       <Paprica> the name of the folder
14.03.01 #       <Paprica> =]
14.03.43 #       <Jungti1234> It's folder name. wow :)
14.04.31 #       <saab_rider> very nice
14.04.55 #       <Jungti1234> I'm going to inform this news to korean people.
14.04.59 #       <Jungti1234> kkk
14.05.07 #       <Paprica> please not yet
14.05.07 #       <saab_rider> will be very helpful for people using rockbox for the first time
14.05.08 #       <Paprica> =]
14.05.20 #       <Jungti1234> why~
14.05.28 #       <Paprica> cuzits not finish
14.05.35 #       <Paprica> and have abugs =\
14.06.02 #       <Jungti1234> I know :)
14.06.06 #       <Paprica> k
14.06.10 #       <Paprica> if uu want
14.06.16 #       <Jungti1234> And korean people understand it.
14.06.33 #       <Paprica> ok
14.08.46 #       <Jungti1234> hahaha http://cafe.naver.com/iriverh300/1198
14.09.59 #       <rayo> it looks cool but i can't read something :)
14.10.15 #       <Jungti1234> hehe
14.10.32 #       <Jungti1234> Use translation.
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14.13.38 #       <Jungti1234> http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=ko_en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcafe.naver.com%2FArticleRead.nhn%3Farticleid%3D1198%26clubid%3D11442863
14.13.59 #       <Jungti1234> But, translation is strange. :P
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14.32.26 #       <Bger> any ideas how to change encoding of text file to utf-8 ?
14.32.52 #       <Jungti1234> use notepad
14.32.52 #       <darkless> if you're using linux, there's a utility for it
14.33.12 #       <Jungti1234> or notepad2
14.33.13 #       <Bger> linux
14.33.22 #       <rayo> my editor can this :)
14.33.43 #       <darkless> Bger: ok, give me a sec to find it
14.34.06 #       <Jungti1234> Bger: http://www.flos-freeware.ch/notepad2.html
14.34.47 #       <Jungti1234> maybe it can use in linux.
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14.37.56 #       <rayo> iconv -f utf-8 -t iso-8859-1 < infile.txt > outfile.txt 
14.38.16 #       <Bger> ah :)
14.38.21 #       <darkless> convmv
14.39.04 #       <darkless> never mind, convmv is only for converting the filename, not file contents
14.39.25 #       <solexx> greetings from 22c3 :)
14.40.23 #       <Bger> 10x, rayo :)
14.40.38 #       <rayo> np i just found it with goole
14.41.02 #       <darkless> I'm using a rockbox'ed iriver H140 as digital transport for my home audio system
14.41.05 #       <Bger> hehe
14.41.26 #       <darkless> I have a few issues, though
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14.42.19 #       <darkless> I'd like the optical out to stay "on" while FF/RW'ing
14.42.37 #       <rayo> the h140 has a optical out?
14.42.52 #       <darkless> because my DAC has a mechanical relay that switches on/off every time the toslink signal is interrupted
14.43.13 #       <darkless> and I'm afraid that it might lead to a mechanical failure in the future
14.44.21 #       <darkless> also, an option to never ever let the harddrive spin down would be good, since the maximum spindown time (254s) is not enough to keep it from spinning down at all when listening to most CDs
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14.45.13 #       <darkless> I can prob. code it myself, but I'd very much appreciate some pointers to places in the code that would need to be changed
14.45.13 #       <amiconn> Why would you want that?
14.45.29 #       <amiconn> It's a huge waste of battery to not let the hd spin down
14.45.57 #       <darkless> yes, but if the player is connected to my home rig it's always running from AC
14.46.21 #       <darkless> and I'm more concerned about the life expectancy of the HDD
14.46.38 #       <darkless> since a typical drive only lasts ~ 30,000 spinups/downs
14.46.46 #       <amiconn> Huh?
14.47.08 #       <darkless> harddrives that never spin down lasts considerably longer than drives that do
14.47.19 #       <amiconn> A mobile drive can take >10.000 _emergeny_ spindowns, and a lot more standard spindowns
14.47.33 #       <darkless> yes, about a factor 10
14.47.41 #       <amiconn> This isn't a high-performance SCSI drive for servers
14.47.43 #       <darkless> but it's still a concern
14.47.56 #       <rayo> normal harddrives are made to spin down/up, only scsi drives are made to spin always
14.49.15 #       <darkless> ok, disregarding the spinup/down issue, it's still an annoyance to wait a second or two for the audio to start playing when changing/skipping tracks
14.49.39 #       <Bger> darkless are you sure you don't mix up power on/off cycles and spin up/down ?
14.49.39 #       <darkless> this is all in the context of the player used in a home rig and not for "regular" portable use
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14.51.15 #       <saa[b_r]ider> sorry d/c
14.51.19 #       <darkless> Bger: the specs sheet lists max # of spinup/downs for my 60 GiB hitachi drive as 300,000
14.51.34 #       <darkless> (the one in my laptop, not the iriver HDD)
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14.51.46 #       <rayo> mh doesn't rockbox  spin up the drive a few seconds before the track changes?
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14.52.49 #       <darkless> yes, but if I decide to jump to next track or skip to a diff album altogether, nothing is cached (that's expected, but an annoyance in a home rig)
14.53.59 #       <amiconn> I also use my rockboxes connected to my home equipment from time to time.
14.54.14 #       <amiconn> I never change my standard spinup time setting (5 seconds)
14.54.22 #       <amiconn> s/spinup/spindown/
14.54.57 #       <darkless> I'm not asking the devs to implement any of this in rockbox per se, but I'd like some pointers to code that would need to be changed.
14.56.24 #       <darkless> amiconn: I do, because if browsing for a specific track on a CD, I might need more than 5 secs to recognise if I'm on the right track. This would cause the disc to spindown/up just before I skip to the next track, thereby introducing a 2-sec delay between each track skip
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15.11.49 #       <darkless> ok, any ideas how to keep the toslink "on" while FF/RW'ing? I guess I could make it loop on some low-volume dummy signal if entering FF/RW
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15.13.04 #       <darkless> or rather, feed it a dummy signal unless it's playing something
15.13.55 #       <mirak> hello
15.17.53 #       <Bger> hello, mirak 
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15.25.27 #       <markun> hi mirak 
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15.27.42 #       <saa[b_r]ider> bonjorno markun ;)
15.27.56 #       <markun> Hi Saab!
15.27.59 #       <saa[b_r]ider> only it's not morning :D
15.28.22 #       <markun> ni hao ma?
15.28.32 #       <saa[b_r]ider> impressive!
15.29.20 #       <webguest93> Hey, has anyone considered implementing an alternative caching strategy that goes like this: cache the current song, then cache the first X seconds of as many of the next songs in the playlist as possible. Would be great for people who play randomly and tend to skip a lot of songs
15.29.26 #       <markun> is 'meraba' arabic or only turkish?
15.29.26 #       <saa[b_r]ider> hen hao, xie xie :D (very good, thank you...)
15.30.00 #       <saa[b_r]ider> marHaba is arabic, I wouldn't be surprised if they used it in turkish as well
15.30.25 #       <preglow> we could have different cache settings, yes
15.30.35 #       <preglow> would complicate the playback engine, though
15.30.51 #       <Slasheri> webguest93: that was the old behaviour..
15.30.57 #       <saa[b_r]ider> the H is much deeper though, a letter that is pretty difficult for non-arabs to pronounce
15.31.18 #       <Slasheri> webguest93: oh, you mean only x seconds of next songs.. hmm, interesting
15.31.41 #       <preglow> Slasheri: i think the ipod os used to do that before, so some people got used to it
15.31.59 #       <Slasheri> preglow: ah, that is an interesting idea
15.32.00 #       <saa[b_r]ider> preglow: I got my friend who owns a 3rd Gen ipod interested in rockbox, hey came over here a few days ago, but you guys weren't around
15.32.12 #       <Slasheri> should be possible to do, but requires some changes to the playback engine
15.32.33 #       <preglow> saa[b_r]ider: nah, will be a couple of days more before i'm completely back
15.33.29 #       <saa[b_r]ider> no problem, I'll let him get in touch with you and linuxstb when you guys are back from holidays
15.34.05 #       <Paprica> http://img485.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dump0512271633189ia.png
15.34.20 #       <Paprica> =]
15.34.28 #       <webguest93> Won't that be a problem on lower-res displays?
15.34.48 #       <Paprica> its for h300
15.34.56 #       <saa[b_r]ider> nice
15.35.02 #       <saa[b_r]ider> @ paprica
15.35.05 #       <webguest93> Why not have it on the first line, and let it be for all units
15.35.36 #       <Paprica> saa[b_r]ider?
15.36.00 #       <saa[b_r]ider> the picture, nice :)
15.36.11 #       <Paprica> aha 10x =]
15.36.38 #       <saa[b_r]ider> Paprica: I notice the font is bigger now?
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15.36.53 #       <Paprica> yep
15.37.45 #       <saa[b_r]ider> is the font size setup within the patch?
15.38.00 #       <Paprica> mm i want to do that
15.38.07 #       <Paprica> but dont know how
15.38.45 #       <Paprica> i want to set the font to
15.38.46 #       <Paprica> chicago12.fnt
15.43.58 #       <darkless> the spdif audiostream is interrupted when FF/RW'ing on iRiver H140. Is this intentional?
15.44.44 #       <darkless> it causes my external DAC to resync and I lose a few seconds of audio that way
15.45.11 #       <mirak> amiconn: hi
15.45.27 #       <mirak> amiconn: did you do a gcc a patch for the EMAC ?
15.46.07 #       <amiconn> no
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15.47.02 #       <amiconn> I don't know how to do gcc patches at all
15.50.16 #       <preglow> mirak: linus did that
15.50.21 #       <preglow> linus and some other fellow
15.50.50 #       <preglow> amiconn: btw, nice gcc-related challenge if you want one: make a gcc that can compile rockbox using thumb code
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15.53.00 #       <mirak> preglow: is it available somewhere ?
15.53.08 #       <mirak> tracker for exemple
15.54.44 #       <preglow> mirak: its been in the gcc/binutils tree for ages now
15.55.17 #       <mirak> preglow: so gcc uses it ?
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16.01.34 #       <Mad_Big_Sausage> paprica: any plans for save/load on RockWord/RockPaint?
16.01.55 #       <Paprica> mm this is eli plugins
16.02.13 #       <Mad_Big_Sausage> soz, my bad.    :o?
16.02.25 #       <Paprica> but i think that he will do a save and load option
16.02.29 #       <amiconn> Afaik, Linus contributed a patch for emacs support in binutils, not gcc
16.03.12 #       <mirak> amiconn: I have read on google something about binutils, not gcc
16.03.43 #       <mirak> gcc is compiler, I am not sure what binutils is supposed to do
16.04.12 #       <amiconn> preglow: Certainly I won't do that. Gcc is such a complex beast, and I'm not terribly interested in any of the arm targets
16.06.23 #       <amiconn> I don't even have the slightest idea how to integrate my optimised 64bit math routines
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16.17.39 #       <darkless> Has question #1 in the following post been addressed yet?
16.17.40 #       <darkless> http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=914.msg4693#msg4693
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16.20.14 #       <darkless> it seems like it's related to this post:
16.20.15 #       <darkless> http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=2142.msg14896#msg14896
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16.56.53 #       <muesli__> hi
17.01.06 #       <preglow> amiconn: you don't need to, arm has proper 64 bit mul support
17.01.23 #       <amiconn> I know, I mean for coldfire and SH1
17.01.24 #       <preglow> it can even do a full 64 bit mac
17.01.32 #       <preglow> ahh, like that
17.01.41 #       <preglow> it's just matter of modifying libgcc
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17.09.24 #       <San> hey
17.09.40 #       <San> why isn't the recording and redio fetures in the menu anymore?
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17.18.22 #       <darkless> is linus on vacation?
17.18.29 #       <t0mas> he was here yesterday
17.18.34 #       <darkless> ko
17.20.39 #       <darkless> hmm, I'm having trouble figuring out where to look for the code that resets the S/PDIF stream
17.21.42 #       <darkless> it resets the stream every time you forward or rewind a track... seems like a bug to me
17.24.02 #       <amiconn> I think it doesn't reset the stream
17.24.16 #       <amiconn> It rather doesn't feed any data to s/pdif while not playing
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17.25.51 #       <darkless> the S/PDIF receiver seems to lose sync, but only when the audio buffer is empty or I FF/RW
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17.27.11 #       <San> why isn't the recording and redio fetures in the menu anymore?
17.27.17 #       <San> *radio
17.28.09 #       <Slasheri> darkless: try replacing all EBU1CONFIG = IIS_RESET with EBU1CONFIG = IIS_RESET | EBU_DEFPARM in pcm_playback.c
17.28.13 #       <Slasheri> that might help
17.28.37 #       <darkless> hmm, good call
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17.47.26 #       <goa> why does activating crossfeed reduce the music volume?
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17.54.26 #       <San> prevent clipping I am guessing
17.54.29 #       <San> yeah
17.54.40 #       <San> prevent clipping when fading them together
17.54.41 #       <goa> hm ok
17.56.00 #       <goa> Is this the page for the id3 browser mentioned in the 2.5 releasenotes? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DatabaseV2
18.02.20 #       <goa> ok, just got it to crash with that feature =) guess i'll wait a while :)
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18.42.01 #       <darkless> Slasheri: you're da man! Replacing all EBU1CONFIG = IIS_RESET with EBU1CONFIG = IIS_RESET | EBU_DEFPARM in pcm_playback.c worked like a charm!
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18.57.23 #       <Slasheri> darkless: oh, sounds good :) i will commit that fix
18.57.42 #       <Paprica> San: what about your present? ;]
18.58.38 #       <darkless> Slasheri: bear in mind that it makes the optical diode light up full throttle, instead of throttling down to a lower power consumption. I'm not sure how much it would affect battery life, though
18.58.53 #       <darkless> when not playing audio, that is
18.59.12 #       <Slasheri> darkless: i don't think it will affect much.. correct way would be to turn of the led entirely after some period of inactivity
18.59.50 #       <darkless> at least I don't need to be concerned about the mechanical life of the relay in my external DAC anymore :)
18.59.58 #       <Slasheri> hehe :)
19.00.08 #       <San> yeah, paprica, couldn't get it going
19.00.10 #       <San> :P
19.00.23 #       <Paprica> =\
19.00.23 #       <San> wana try?
19.00.27 #       <San> i can help, some what
19.00.44 #       <Paprica> i am working on that
19.00.44 #       <Paprica> http://img485.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dump0512271633189ia.png
19.00.48 #       <San> it wasn't as simple as I wought
19.01.19 #       <San> god, your good
19.01.20 #       <San> :P
19.01.29 #       <Paprica> lol
19.01.31 #       <Paprica> =]
19.01.56 #       <muesli__> go go go Paprica :D
19.02.14 #       <Paprica> ;]
19.03.11 #       <San> Pap, could you make a menu for me?
19.03.17 #       <San> I have no idea about doing that
19.03.19 #       <San> :\
19.04.05 #       <Paprica> on some minutes i will try to help u =\
19.04.18 #       <San> thanks
19.05.42 #       <darkless> Slasheri: Would it take much effort to change the disk spindown option to allow the user to turn off spindown completely?
19.07.02 #       <Slasheri> darkless: no, it should be quite easy to do.. maybe an option to keep disk spinning when connected to ac power
19.07.07 #       <darkless> I'd use it for my "home theatre" profile, not for regular portable use... and just to save the slight delay when switching to tracks after the disk has spun down
19.07.34 #       <Slasheri> however, i am not sure what these disks in portable players like if spinning continuosly
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19.09.59 #       <darkless> hmm, increasing the spindown time to 10 minutes after last disk access would also work. That way it would spindown if not playing any audio
19.11.04 #       <Slasheri> hmm, now it sounds like a nice idea to automatically load a different profile (configuration file) when plugged into ac
19.11.24 #       <darkless> I'd certainly welcome it
19.11.55 #       <darkless> a spindown of 5 minutes would prob. work too, since most tracks are less than 5 mins long... However, the present max spindown (254s) is too short... it spins down on 1/4th of my tracks
19.11.55 #       <Slasheri> that way we could also remove some options, such as backlight settings when plugged in
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19.12.36 #       <darkless> well, some people might still like the option to prolong the LCD life by turning it off
19.13.08 #       <darkless> but the overall idea of having an AC and DC profile is nice
19.13.09 #       <Slasheri> yes, but with the profiling, there would be no need the specify another option for ac power
19.13.47 #       <darkless> well, what are you waiting for? Get working on it! *cracks whip* ;)
19.14.14 #       <Slasheri> (in fact, led backlight will no burn-out but EL-backlight can (such as with remote lcd) when keeping continuosly on long times, like a year)
19.14.21 #       <Slasheri> hehe :)
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19.14.34 #       <Slasheri> currently i have the tagcache and many other fixes to finish
19.15.33 #       <darkless> I love your work on the cache-stuff btw, very nice
19.16.36 #       <darkless> hopefully, someone will be able to pick up the ball on the profiling idea :)
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21.45.08 #       <TheFormulaJam> hey, anyone around?
21.46.12 #       <TheFormulaJam> if and when someone turns up: do i update the bootloader by patching the Iriver firmware with a later firmwarepatcher.exe ?
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22.15.52 #       <muesli__> hi JazzBone ;)
22.20.02 #       <mirak> TheFormulaJam: probably not
22.20.22 #       <mirak> TheFormulaJam: I probably did not understood your question
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22.30.09 #       <TheFormulaJam> ah
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22.30.27 #       <TheFormulaJam> you know when you start rb, it says "bootloader V2"
22.30.34 #       <TheFormulaJam> how do you update the bootloader?
22.30.43 #       <TheFormulaJam> or is it included in a daily build
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22.33.05 #       <mirak> you must repatch a firmware with a new bootloader
22.33.15 #       <TheFormulaJam> right
22.33.15 #       <mirak> I think they are included into the windows patcher
22.33.44 #       <TheFormulaJam> the firmwarepatcher.exe file? the one linked from the manualrockboxinstall guide on the wiki?
22.33.51 #       <mirak> probably
22.33.59 #       <mirak> I use linux so I don't know
22.38.28 #       <muesli__> TheFormulaJam which player?
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23.08.37 #       <TheFormulaJam> H3X0
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23.15.07 #       <muesli__> international or us-version
23.16.10 #       <TheFormulaJam> International
23.17.33 #       <muesli__> which version do you prefer?
23.17.42 #       <muesli__> kr or eu ?
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