--- Log for 19.01.106 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 4 days and 17 hours ago 00.00.08 # strange! 00.00.15 # annoying :( 00.00.42 # * amiconn wonders whether it makes sense to replace the current STYLE_INVERT implementation (e.g. the inverse bar cursor) which uses DRMODE_COMPLEMENT by correct inversevid i.e. DRMODE_INVERSEVID 00.00.42 # so... anyone got a working H300 boot loader hex? 00.00.42 # Indeed owning an H300 without rockbox.... pitty ;( 00.00.57 # steveb: I 00.01.07 # NightCat: care to email it? 00.01.12 # 1.29 patched and working fine :) 00.01.17 # With the current implementation, then inverse bar is white text on dark brown (standard black text on rockbox blue) 00.01.26 # steveb: I can if you wish :) 00.01.28 # steveb: sounds like the firmware checksum failing is my guess 00.01.47 # With DRMODE_INVERSEVID the bar would be rockbox blue text on black 00.01.48 # yeh 00.01.57 # strange though... 00.01.59 # you are using firmware patcher? 00.02.06 # but bajh 00.02.06 # yep 00.02.10 # think i gotta call it a night 00.02.36 # night preglow 00.02.48 # gnight 00.02.48 # amiconn: I think some users have requested that, esp the rockcolor patch users 00.03.03 # besides, inversevid would be faster than complement on all platforms, no readback from the framebuffer 00.03.43 Quit gtkspert (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.03.50 Quit Moos ("Glory to Rockbox") 00.04.14 # i dont suppose anyone has any good linux wma -> ogg converters? 00.04.19 # or knows of one? 00.04.23 Quit akaidiot (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.06.12 # Paul_The_Nerd, preglow: Can anyone quickly test an ipod patch for me? 00.06.41 # I've added USB detection in the bootloader, but the apple firmware refuses to load. I haven't upgraded to gcc4 yet, so want to make sure it's not that problem again. 00.06.42 # steveb: gah, transcoding is the devil. 00.06.44 # LinusN: The VM Pin is really wired to Vcc? (so only 4,1V?) 00.06.54 # Patch here: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/usb.diff 00.07.02 # lostlogic: i know. my bro gave me a load of songs. all in wma. 00.07.18 # he ripped them using windows media player and then gave the cd's back to his friend 00.07.23 # only at 128kbps as well 00.07.26 # linuxstb: i have a ipod video an GCC3.4.5. can i help? 00.07.28 # the quality is a bit crap 00.07.58 # ouch. not sure what I'd do with that situ. 00.08.37 # Rob2222: Not really. I'm in the process of compiling gcc 4 now, so I can test it myself soon. 00.09.09 # ha linuxstb: I just saw a goto. All programmers I've dont like goto, but I think it's pretty usefull sometimes. 00.09.20 # ^met 00.10.15 # XavierGr: there are quite a few gotos in embedded applications like rockbox where performance counts. 00.10.17 # XavierGr: That's the first goto I've ever used in a C program.... I may remove it before committing. 00.10.46 # can i merge a diff file with patch? 00.11.02 # Rob2222: no, check what i said around 23:16 00.11.11 # linuxstb: it doesnt work with gcc345? 00.11.15 # Sometimes goto can be useful (there are some of them in rockbox code; I added one or two), but it should be used very carefully 00.11.28 # linuxstb: Haha, well I like gotos for their simplicity. 00.11.32 # LinusN: I read that, only wanted to make sure 00.11.51 # OK, so you checked that twice. 00.12.29 Part Midgey34 00.13.35 # Rob2222: I'm trying to detect the precense of USB in the ipod bootloader, but if I do it, then the apple firmware refuses to load. I want to check if it's a gcc 3.4.x bug, or if the apple firmware just doesn't like the usb being initialised - which is possible. 00.14.06 Join webguest89 [0] (n=0cad6dbb@labb.contactor.se) 00.14.19 # ah ok 00.15.56 Quit Skydemon ("bye bye") 00.16.06 Quit einhirn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.16.35 # when setting up a crosscompiler with gcc 4 next to my running gcc345, i need to recompile binutils, too. right? 00.16.56 # damn, i can't find where vid1 is connected... 00.17.22 # maybe its driven by another chip? 00.18.28 # hadnt had the PCF outputs, too? 00.18.51 # could be the USB controller chip by phillips drives that? 00.19.44 # LinusN: Have you checked the PCF GPOs? 00.20.35 # Somebody help? 00.20.53 # I have some errors... I mean a lot of errors in plugin.c file... 00.21.07 # When building RB... 00.21.17 # Could someone explain it? 00.21.29 # (I update cvs just now...) 00.21.53 # NightCat: do you have conflicts? 00.22.00 # Rob2222: i have checked nearly every damn component on the pcb 00.22.12 # :( 00.22.30 # hmm 00.22.37 # what does result: -5 mean? 00.22.41 # i'll find it eventually 00.22.41 # lostlogic: When I run make in my build folder there are a lot of errors in plugin.c 00.22.53 # NightCat: when you did the cvs update were there conflicts? 00.22.59 # steveb: in the boot loader? 00.23.02 # yep 00.23.11 # lostlogic: Oh, no, I think... 00.23.11 # it says that for about 1/10 of a sec before turning off 00.23.24 # NightCat: did you do ../tools/configure again? 00.23.25 # steveb: checksum fault 00.23.32 # LinusN: Wire 220V on the Pin and continue tapping with the fingers on PCB until you find it. :D 00.23.34 # petur No 00.23.34 # LinusN: checksum on what? 00.23.39 # the firmware? 00.23.43 # steveb: the rockbox.iriver file 00.23.47 # ah ok 00.23.52 # that is fixable. 00.23.52 # what model number does it say? 00.24.00 # H300 00.24.08 # NightCat: try it, then do make clean, then make 00.24.08 # steveb: rockbox.iriver is bad! 00.24.19 # petur: Ok 00.24.32 # Rob2222: wonderful idea 00.24.42 # lol 00.24.54 # sorry. only tried to get you a little more happy ^^ 00.25.00 # hehe 00.25.21 # Rob2222: :) :) :) :) :) :) :) 00.25.29 # I would search too, if i had a 2nd H300 00.26.01 # Well I just ordered mine so you will have to wait one week or so... :) 00.27.40 # but it should work... ^^ 00.27.53 # I'm gonna have to go out and get a multimeter on my way home so I can play. 00.28.20 # i would be feared to damage the pcb with the MM pins. 00.28.31 # on my main unit 00.29.45 # yeah, I have my broken one to play with :-D 00.30.12 # wooooooooo hooooooo 00.30.15 # it works 00.30.17 # love you all 00.30.18 # didnt you RMAed it? 00.30.30 # steveb: installed RB fist time? 00.30.52 # Rob2222: finally got it working for the first time yeh 00.31.03 # huh. now you have RB. 00.31.03 # Rob2222: no, was out of warranty, and an international model, and I broke it my own damn self so that would be unethical. 00.31.10 # now how do you use this thing? 00.31.14 # should be a 2nd birthday in future :) 00.31.21 # at least it was for me 00.31.30 # never an DAP without rockbox again 00.31.33 # hmm 00.31.40 # you could start with ... 00.31.41 # steveb: what was the problem? 00.31.43 # playing an MP3 00.31.57 # or playing a gameboy color game ;) 00.31.59 # LinusN: dunno. screwed up rockbox.iriver i guess. i just copied over again 00.32.01 # and it worked 00.32.14 # disconnected usb to fast, heh? ;) 00.32.27 # i think it was just the shitty pc's at uni before 00.32.38 # they dont even have usb2 00.32.45 # it took forever to copy them! 00.33.04 # steveb: what about the failed firmware update? 00.33.14 # LinusN: probly the same reason 00.33.25 # crappy pc's meant that the firmware didnt patch properly 00.33.26 # Speaking about rockboy - when I tried last time, I noticed that (now that sound is enabled) rockboy emits an unpleasant noise at startup 00.33.30 # Is that known? 00.33.35 # i got a working one from NightCat 00.35.09 # oh now come on. putting an option saying "Debug (Kepp out!)" is just ASKING for me to go snooping :( 00.35.15 Quit perplexity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.36.09 # what does the battery test plugin do? 00.36.33 # It does nothing on H300 I think... 00.37.19 # It cycles data from the buffer and the disk I think and then tells you various about your battery, but I am not sure. If you want to test your battery wait for the battery_bench plugin. 00.37.24 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginBatteryTest 00.37.29 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginBatteryTest 00.37.32 # lol 00.37.33 # ok 00.37.59 # i should bench my battery tonight 00.38.05 # There is an echo in here ;) 00.38.17 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-123-201.VIC.netspace.net.au) 00.38.18 # tomorrow is coming my 2200mAh battery hopefully 00.38.28 # hehe amicon 00.38.34 # amiconn: But this plugin is only useful for archos devices, right? 00.38.50 # at least i didnt know how to use that plugin 00.38.51 # Well, it's not really useful on archos either 00.39.16 # should be useful to compare 2 batteries, right? 00.39.27 # You should test my plugin on your ondio one day to see if it will work on a flash player. 00.39.53 # It simulates usage in a rather crude way, hardly resembling actual use. 00.40.01 # XavierGr: youre worling on battery_bench? 00.40.11 # battery_bench should be the replacement 00.40.23 # XavierGr: You said you're working on it atm? 00.40.23 # whats the status of battery_bench? 00.40.29 # yup it is ready for some time now. Right now I add some minor things up. 00.40.50 # Sorry, I forgot about it 00.41.06 # XavierGr: could you send me the actual plugin for an iriver? 00.41.06 # It is quite finished, we were talking with Bger for some minor things, that I am working on right now. 00.41.09 # I should compile & test on archos when you're done with your fixes 00.41.27 # (both Ondio and disk-based) 00.41.32 # would like to make a bench tonight, if tomorrow comes my new battery 00.41.37 # Unfortunately current patch will not compile due to changes on CVS, but I will have a new patch in half an hour. 00.41.58 # Rob give me 20 minutes. 00.42.01 # huh, you didnt need to make it now only for me! 00.42.40 # Running benchmarks isn't a problem here, with 6 units I can always make sure to have a usable one while benchmarks are running 00.43.27 # is battery_bench running in foreground? 00.43.35 # Rob one way or the other I will compile it to test it for me so... 00.43.39 # lol amiconn 00.43.57 # yep, you can use your player fully as the plugin runs, though make sure to load another plugin. 00.44.03 # XavierGr: ok, would be nice. 00.44.07 # ^not 00.44.15 # ah ok 00.44.22 # is there a way to stop it gain? 00.44.23 # not to load another plugin I meant. 00.44.31 # ah ok 00.44.39 # so loading another plugin will stop ip 00.44.42 # it 00.44.43 # = 00.44.44 # ? 00.44.45 Quit ender` (" Anyone who thinks people lack originality should watch them folding roadmaps.") 00.44.50 # if you load another plugin it will stop, or shutdown player. 00.44.59 # damn, my keyboard doesnt write what i think 00.45.02 # ok 00.45.06 # sounds really nice! 00.46.05 # i come back ... with my ogg bug : 00.46.20 Join webguest19 [0] (n=5087d7c2@labb.contactor.se) 00.46.56 # err, what does the profiling committ do feature wise ? 00.47.31 # i have 2 pc : one onwindows, the other on linux. file i haveencoded with windows work well but i can't read file encoded with linux 00.48.20 # when i use the command 'file' on my ogg file encoded with linux, it say MP3 type 00.48.32 # are there readme files within that profile committ ? 00.48.50 # but if i rename these file in .mp", i can't read it (with xmms) 00.50.06 # <= knows nothing 00.50.40 # hmm, lostlogic ? 00.52.28 Join webguest57 [0] (n=45dd9772@labb.contactor.se) 00.52.39 Part LinusN 00.52.52 # and LinusN escapes 00.52.52 Quit webguest57 (Client Quit) 00.52.59 Part NightCat 00.53.18 # my BO is obviously offense 00.54.20 Part webguest19 00.57.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.58.20 Join robguest18 [0] (n=acb38583@labb.contactor.se) 00.58.29 # huh 00.58.31 # nice 00.58.46 # but i am 27 ^^ 00.58.50 # not 18 00.59.26 Part robguest18 00.59.35 # do you know if there are some format off oggvorbis not compatible with codecs in rockbox ? 00.59.39 Join NightCat [0] (n=pink__ki@garant.metacom.ru) 01.01.34 Quit petur ("here today, gone tomorrow") 01.04.10 # Hmm interesting! The dircache will not always succed to see changes in the filetree. 01.04.20 Quit actionshrimp ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") 01.04.50 # Example my plugin on start will create a log file. Sometimes dircache will show the file but other time it won't. 01.07.58 # Rob2222: Can I send you somewhere the .rock file and the firmware? 01.08.38 # What means HAVE_LCD_COLOR? 01.09.11 # If I want my plugin builds only for H300 wich def shoud I use? 01.09.38 # IRIVER_H3XX_SERIES ? 01.10.28 # Hey somebody :) 01.10.59 Quit Kohlrabi ("Fast alle Menschen sind Regenwürmer") 01.11.07 # HAVE_LCD_COLOR means that the target has an lcd with color 01.11.18 # i need to catch up on new configure. Is the lang selection choice droped? 01.11.39 # Yes 01.11.49 # what's the story? 01.11.50 # bah no HAVE_LCD_COLOR inlcudes the grayscale too. 01.12.18 # or no I am wrong again. 01.12.56 # XavierGr: Then it'll be enoth to use IRIVER_H3XX_SERIES define? 01.13.32 # yes if such define exists. 01.15.15 # #define IRIVER_H300_SERIES 1 01.15.31 # This string exists in config-h300.h 01.15.53 # NightCat: if I want another default language what am I supposed to do? Edit the makefile? 01.15.56 # then use it. 01.16.02 # Oh IRIVER_H300_SERIES not an IRIVER_H3XX_SERIES :) 01.16.25 # matsl: I think yes. But why? 01.16.56 # matsl: You can always set it in the working RB options on DAP. 01.17.45 Quit linuxstb ("CGI:IRC") 01.18.43 # NightCat: I want to check my translation so I was used to setting the language to get right into it. 01.19.33 # NightCat: and I don't understand DAP 01.22.35 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 01.23.04 # XavierGr: Simply DCC 01.23.07 # does it work? 01.23.28 # nico__: Can you upload that Ogg file to a web server somewhere? 01.23.48 # For anyone that is interested, here is the patch on the tracker: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1357370&group_id=44306&atid=439120 01.24.22 # Rob: There you will find a rock file and the firmware download them. 01.24.36 # you must mod the FW? 01.24.43 # well, ill check the patch 01.25.15 # In order to make the plugin I added 2 functions in the plugin API and boosted the API_VERSION. 01.25.29 # aha ok 01.25.29 Quit nico__ ("Leaving") 01.25.34 # So to run the rock you need a compiled firmware. 01.25.55 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.26.07 # is a .diff the same as a .patch? 01.26.19 # XavierGr: I believe Rockbox only re-reads the directory if a plugin returns with the return value PLUGIN_USB_CONNECTED. Otherwise, it assumes the disk contents have changed. 01.26.21 # yup 01.26.36 # I mean "... not changed." 01.27.06 # hmm, i cant DL the diff file 01.27.33 # I can't really see what you say. Many times the cache will show the newly created file even if my plugin didn't return a USB_CONNECTED. 01.27.40 # Rob let me check. 01.28.09 # Somebody knows, how to translate bmp picture to RB text format? 01.28.57 # Rob I just downloaded the patch file successfully. 01.29.50 # hmm, ill try again 01.30.14 # NightCat: What player are you using? 01.30.31 # now it works. dont know what it was 01.30.45 # linuxstb: H300 01.30.58 # ../tools/bmp2rb -f 4 myfile.bmp > myfile.c 01.31.17 # linuxstb: Thx :) I'll try it now. 01.33.52 Nick BHSPitMonkey_ is now known as BHSPitMonkey (n=billybob@adsl-67-64-150-195.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 01.35.27 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 01.35.53 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 01.41.25 # XavierGr: Do you know why the battery debug screen isnt usingthe whole screen at the h300? 01.41.49 # you mean in the Debug menu? 01.42.03 # yep 01.42.03 # Well I guess it hasn't yet ported to fit the size of the H300 screen. 01.42.18 # hmm 01.42.19 # This was the case for the H100 at the start. 01.42.46 # Rockbox has a difficult time with all the ifdef for different targets. 01.43.06 # yeah, THATS right 01.43.27 # #define BAT_YSPACE (LCD_HEIGHT - 20) <= that should be the height 01.43.50 # Does my plugin works? Did you test it? 01.43.52 # im thinking, if it can be that the power history hasnt more data in it. 01.43.57 # i just compiled it. 01.44.12 # i want to got to bed but my H300 doesnt finish ist charging cacle :( 01.44.20 # so at least it applied cleanly, good... 01.44.45 # yep 01.44.52 # compiled without a problem 01.45.07 # Pointer: When you start the plugin, please take the time with your watch too to see if there is a major error. 01.45.33 # I don't think that there will be a great difference, I made 3 tests already. 01.45.48 # But this plugin is untested so it would be good to see more tests. 01.45.51 Join akaidiot [0] (n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 01.46.20 # also when you finish your benchmark please submit your findigs... (wait ti find the link) 01.46.34 # in the wiki? 01.46.36 # will do so 01.46.58 # yes there is a wiki page for this, I just don't remember where. 01.46.59 # shuffle or no shuffle playlist 01.47.10 # for this test 01.47.12 # hmm 01.47.13 # i know where 01.47.25 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverRuntime 01.48.02 # Make sure to have reapet on an album more that 40-50 mb (to make sure the buffer will fill). 01.48.50 # For your first test. (I guess it will be a stress test) make sure to touch the player (backlight, or change of tracks) as little as you can. 01.49.09 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 01.49.41 # When you finish you see the battery_bench.txt for a complete history of many battery info over the time. (Voltage, Time, ETA before shut down, % battery time e.t.c) 01.49.42 Quit mikearthur ("Konversation terminated!") 01.49.49 # XavierGr: can it be that its not good to load the plugin twice? 01.50.45 # ive frozen my unit 01.50.48 # with that 01.50.51 # Well if you load the plugin a second time it will stop the first bench, though it will continue to log in the same file. (it will not overwrite previous data, it will reset the time counter and say benchmark resumed) 01.51.09 # opps let me check that. 01.51.31 # 2nd tome 01.51.33 # tiome 01.51.36 # time 01.51.53 # well it worked quite fine for me now. 01.52.02 # damn keyboard. i want a keyboard that types what i think and not what i type 01.52.11 # huh? 01.52.14 # strange 01.52.28 # im hanging at "loading" 01.54.28 # maybe the problem using a own .iriver in a H300-opimized environment 01.54.39 # I just reloaded the plugin 5-6 times with no problems. 01.54.48 # oh my god. 01.54.52 # yes, i think the error is here anywhere 01.54.54 # You have an H300? 01.55.03 # yep 01.55.04 # ah okay 01.55.12 # whats the problem? 01.55.18 # for one moment I thought you used my firmware. 01.55.27 # h140? :) 01.55.37 # so does it load the first time? 01.56.01 # the text viewer hangs, too. as i tried to open battery_bench.txt 01.56.08 # ill do a clean RB install 01.56.11 # Well I thought that you have an H300 while you used the firmware for H140 in the link..... 01.56.46 # good that i compiled for myself :) 01.56.49 # Quite strange. I don't have any problem to load any plugin while running the benchmark. 01.56.55 # no 01.56.57 # wait 01.57.04 # i think the problem is here anywhere 01.57.06 # not your code 01.57.31 # so forget it 01.57.32 # :) 01.57.33 # ah okay, do you use a custom build with more features? 01.57.54 Quit mirak_ (Remote closed the connection) 01.59.20 # sometimes the h300 optimized build 01.59.31 # http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=34725 01.59.43 # but atm im compiling my own build 02.00.21 # ok when you test it tell me if you have any problems. 02.02.00 # Good thing is that with this plugin we will be able to compare battery times more accuratelly. 02.02.02 # yep, will do so 02.02.07 # yeah 02.02.27 # shuffle and non shuffle should make no difference, or what do you think? 02.02.39 # People will log their performance and we will be able to see what change in code causes bigger power consumption. 02.03.26 # I think it shouldn't matter. A good shuffle will not have an effect on battery time, but I don't know how shuffle works in rockbox. 02.06.24 Join YouCeyE [0] (n=YouCeyE@vp089013.reshsg.uci.edu) 02.26.28 # why are the codecs and the rock of my own build not identical with the bleeding edge h300 build? its the same source?! 02.27.01 # if you compiled mine they should be difeerent 02.27.31 # all codecs? 02.27.38 # and all plugins? 02.27.50 # well to tell you the truth I am not so sure. 02.27.58 # lol 02.28.02 # :) 02.28.02 # does it work right now? 02.28.16 # didnt tested, yet 02.28.33 # was installing RB new 02.28.39 # on the player 02.28.43 # damn different version 02.28.45 # s 02.28.53 # cant decide, which to take 02.32.03 Quit TCK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.32.06 # hmm, freezing again 02.32.11 # let me take a clean build 02.32.49 # you have an h140 you said right? 02.32.53 # H340 02.33.07 # ah then no go. 02.33.20 # building from actual CVS + your patch 02.33.22 # why? 02.33.34 # it will freeze the second time you load it? 02.34.08 # yes. 02.34.30 # but give me some seconds 02.34.42 # maybe something was wrong with the build 02.37.50 # How to calculate strings in C? "qwe" + "rty" = "qwerty" or "qwe" . "rty" = "qwerty"? 02.38.43 # no use strcat, or strcpy 02.38.54 # search google on details you will find many. 02.38.57 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@c220-239-137-122.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 02.39.17 # XavierGr: : the strange thing is, all rocks and codecs are not identical 02.39.21 # Hm, i'll thought it'll be simple :) 02.39.37 # binary compare of my build and latest bleeding edge 02.40.08 # rocks should be different 02.40.19 # I don't know about codecs though 02.40.19 # maybe its a compiling timestamp 02.42.06 # now that I think of all should be different. 02.42.37 # because I changed something plugin.c and plugin.h , powermgmt.c and .h 02.43.27 # maybe they are different because i changed the fore and background color 02.43.30 # that could be 02.43.47 # ah yes 02.43.50 # but you said it was a clean CVS build 02.43.59 # only the color change 02.44.25 # yeah it shouldn't matter nontheless 02.44.26 # didnt thought that the color can have influence in the codecs 02.45.46 # so i have now installed the latest bleeding zip on my player 02.46.00 # and the .iriver .rocks .codecs of that build 02.46.22 # and i cant load another plugin when battery_bench is running 02.46.34 # just tried cube. 02.46.37 # it will crash? 02.46.47 # cube (ok) => battery bench => cube 02.46.48 # yes 02.46.53 # loading stays there 02.47.04 # but backlight timeout still works 02.47.06 # crap I don't know 02.47.19 # I will get a dev tomorrow to see this. 02.47.25 # well i have no problem wit that behaviour atm 02.57.34 # anyone here use the sudoku plugin? 02.57.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.59.40 # I wrote it... 03.00.25 # can you load games? 03.00.38 # or do you just have to like... do it yourself 03.02.03 Join San [0] (n=test@A-110-231.cust.iol.ie) 03.03.13 # Yes, you can load games. Just select a ".ss" file in the file browser, and that file will open in Sudoku. See this page: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginSudoku 03.04.13 Quit akaidiot (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.04.16 # Use Sudoku as a "viewer" for .ss files is the way it is intended to be used. The "plugin" mode of Sudoku is just for manually creating a new game - e.g. copying it from a newspaper. 03.05.39 # ah gotcha :) 03.05.42 # thats awesome 03.05.52 # you realise that i might fail all my exams now because of you? 03.06.06 # i hope you can sleep at night 03.10.29 # XavierGr: The only bad thing is i may not view the battery_bench.txt. ^^ 03.22.03 # I know, I'm kinda stupid, but I can't understand: how can I get string = string + int + string? 03.22.40 # For ex.: "Start: " + 5 + "sec." = "Start: 5sec." 03.23.00 # Rrrrr.... 03.25.46 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=jborn@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 03.26.42 # NightCat: Use "snprintf" 03.27.03 # i.e. snprintf(buf,sizeof(buf),"Start: %dsec.",sec); 03.29.10 # linuxstb: After other programming languages C seems to be very strange for me... 03.29.30 # After C, other programming langueags seem to be very strange for me... 03.30.11 # :) For ex. I can't understand, why not to use just "dferf" + "erfer" like pascal or "regbver" . "reger" like PHP... 03.30.45 # Rob: You can view it after you shut off your DAP. Connect it to your PC and open the text_file from the PC. 03.31.11 # NightCat: Because C is designed to be very close to how computers actually work - it doesn't hide any of the low-level details from you like other languages. 03.32.01 # I had noticed that already :) 03.36.45 Join lenny [0] (n=18cdfed5@labb.contactor.se) 03.38.06 # quick question... I'm using the rockbox devkit and is there a pernament way to set an environmental variable (ie "export CVSROOT=......") so that when I boot it back up it's still set? 03.38.41 # *permanent 03.40.08 # lenny: if you're using cvs co, it should be able to draw the value for that from the checkout itself 03.40.27 # (the CVS directory contains files that set what CVSROOT should be) 03.42.00 # but when I close the command prompt and open it back up, it doesn't know CVSROOT anymore 03.42.10 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@p54BD501E.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.42.59 Join Maxime` [0] (n=flemmard@82.229.205.156) 03.43.32 # and how do I set CVSROOT via the CVS directory? sorry I'm new to cvs 03.44.18 # I see the "Root" file has the server.... 03.45.53 # lenny: it should just do it, provided you don't override it on the command line 03.46.14 Quit Maxime (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.47.15 # you should just be able to run 'cvs up' in the 'rockbox' directory and it should start updating without CVSROOT set 03.48.28 # thanks ashridah got it 03.51.33 Join gtkspert [0] (n=gtkspert@203-59-207-7.dyn.iinet.net.au) 03.59.01 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.59.01 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@p54BD501E.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.06.43 Part lenny 04.06.51 Join Maxime [0] (n=flemmard@82.229.205.156) 04.06.51 Quit Maxime` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.10.26 Quit NightCat (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.10.36 # 800kohm resistance between system vdd and the AC adapter. 04.10.44 # I'm so glad I bought a multimeter. 04.17.26 # what did you find? 04.17.52 Quit webguest89 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 04.18.13 Join joshn_454 [0] (n=kvirc@ool-182d4545.dyn.optonline.net) 04.18.26 Join Membrillo [0] (n=sam_kill@CPE-60-229-179-140.nsw.bigpond.net.au) 04.19.39 # anyway have to sleep, I have exams in 5 hours 04.19.47 # luck 04.24.51 # whats HD DVD? 04.25.07 # and BluerayDiscs? 04.26.54 # anyone know? 04.28.29 # HD-DVD and Bluray are two competing technologies for the next generation of optical disc format 04.29.37 # what benefits do they have above each other and in comparison to DVDs? 04.29.55 # 3-5x the capacity of dvd in the first generation 04.29.58 # I forget the comparisons 04.30.12 # cool 04.30.21 # well that doesnt sound bad to start off with 04.32.47 # are they physically different? 04.34.19 # larger? thinner? thicker? smaller diameter? 04.34.56 # not a clue, but I bet google know. 04.34.57 # s 04.35.19 # google is the einstein of search engines 04.38.46 Join NightCat [0] (n=pink__ki@garant.metacom.ru) 04.40.26 # If I want to cut the string how can I do this? For ex.: string "56 67 12" = "56", "67", "12"? 04.40.48 # strtok I believe 04.40.54 # or sscanf 04.41.33 # There is no such functions for plugins... 04.41.35 # strtok sounds familiar 04.41.50 # nightcat: no rb->strtok? 04.42.00 # Yes 04.42.17 # In plugin.h no strtok function declared... 04.42.43 # Or I don't understand something again? 04.43.01 # might have to tokenize it manually using strrchr 04.43.14 # Neither strtok nor sscanf... 04.43.16 # and strchr 04.43.31 # There is strchr. 04.43.50 # yeah, strtok could be exported... it's in rockbox source 04.44.43 # But how to use it? I mean in Pascal for ex I just doing like that dest := copy(sourc,begin_pos,symbols_count)... 04.44.47 Join akaidiot [0] (n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 04.45.24 # strcpy is in the plugin api 04.45.35 # so you could declare new buffers to put the result strings into 04.46.20 # what are you working on? 04.47.56 # I just trying to understand some C. Now I makeing a function wich will load a level (it will be a game) from file to 2D array... 04.48.33 # I have a file And i get it in my plugin with read_line. 04.49.08 # Every line looks like this: 11111 11111 11111 11111 04.49.41 # I mean Elements is divided by whitespaces 04.49.58 # sure, but that's an obvious machine readable format, there is no need to really tokenize, just read the first 5 characters into array[0][0] and then skip one and read the next 5 into array[0][1]? 04.51.22 # It's an exit (or how it will be in english) but i was looking for something more simple. 04.51.53 # 'an exit' <-- don't understand :( 04.53.28 # Exit of this situation, the decision of the problem 04.53.39 # solution 04.53.46 # Yes :) 04.54.14 # yeah, a lot of the 'nicer' functions aren't available in rockbox because of the limitations of the embedded platform (sscanf would be how I'd do it in a 'bigger' C program) 04.55.30 # I know it's an influence of Pascal... :) (In Russia we have such expression: "Exit of the situation" = solution :)) 04.55.44 # makes sense. 04.56.12 # I seem to keep running into russians lately. like 1/2 of my team at work was born somewhere in the former soviat. 04.56.15 # soviet 04.56.59 # lostlogic: Where are you from? 04.57.13 # Chicago, Illinois, USA 04.57.18 # Oh :) 04.57.39 # I want to went to USA somewhen... 04.58.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.58.16 # :) 04.59.13 # I have a website and it's based somewhere in Scranton... 05.00.02 # is that a place in the US? 05.00.29 Quit gtkspert (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.00.46 # lostlogic: Yes 05.01.05 # I think I typed wrong... 05.01.23 # There appears to be a town called Scranton in Pennsylvania 05.02.02 # Yes that is it :) 05.02.34 # :) -- I was born in Pennsylvania, but only lived there until I was about 3 years old. 05.03.29 # lost: whereabouts in Chicago? 05.03.37 # JoeBorn: lakeview 05.03.49 # oh, I'm in Lincolnwood 05.04.00 # Heh, And I was born in St.-Petersburg lived there about 2 years 05.04.22 # Then 1 year in Germany (Berlin) 05.04.42 # *nod* I'm a city type :) 05.04.48 # And now again in Russia :) 05.04.58 # cool -- what all languages do you speak? 05.05.43 # Unfortunately I speak only Russian and some English... 05.05.54 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@124.60.15.86) 05.05.56 # lost: I'm kind of a city type too, just not living there right now. 05.06.27 # I live in a small town now But I love it :) 05.06.33 # NightCat: it's all good -- you speak more languages than I do, I speak English and a tiny bit of Spanish 05.07.29 # Hehe :) It is a big center of metallurgy (SeverStahl)... That is all 05.07.33 Join Rob2222_ [0] (n=Miranda@ACB29143.ipt.aol.com) 05.07.53 # Ah, and it is about 600 km far from Moscow :) 05.08.27 # do you visit moscow often? 05.09.20 # I think "often" is not the right word... I have relatives and friends there. 05.09.30 # so 'sometimes' perhaps? 05.09.37 # My sister lives in Moscow. 05.09.48 # Yes sometimes. 05.10.40 # I think I'll go to MSC this summer :) 05.11.00 # MSC?? 05.11.07 # MSC = Moscow :) 05.11.24 # thought it might be, wondered if it was something _in_ Moscow though. 05.12.01 # hi 05.12.06 # Hi 05.12.27 # * lostlogic waves 05.12.49 # heh.. 05.13.07 # What means "waves" (I know translation but...)? 05.13.43 # It something related with "swim"? 05.13.48 # Wave 05.13.54 # it's a hand gesture -- a salutation, open hand, usually palm out, 'waved' back and forth in greeting. 05.14.23 # I understood it using translation. :) 05.14.28 # Oh :) Now I know :) 05.14.52 # Same gesture work in Russian? :) 05.15.25 # Yes 05.15.56 # Moscow is cold. 05.17.07 # We have about -30 Celsii... 05.17.15 # ouch, yes it is! 31C colder than here 05.17.18 # brrrrr 05.17.34 # 17 degres farenheit yes? 05.17.41 # Seoul is livable! 05.17.52 # it's ~33F here... 05.17.57 # -30C is -23F 05.18.11 # lostlogic: Hm - strange... 05.18.19 # yes 05.18.25 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05.18.44 # Seoul is 5.6C now. 05.18.48 # lostlogic: We have 0 a couple of days ago... But now... 05.18.56 # man, that's cold. 05.19.06 # It almost never gets that cold here in Chicago 05.19.06 # uh? 05.19.20 # Jungti1234: no, yours is fairly comfortable ;) 05.19.31 # hehehe 05.19.44 # lostlogic: I don't like winter much but... I have to live :) 05.19.58 # NightCat: I wouldn't either if my winters were as cold as yours. I like winter here. 05.20.15 # Jeju is 10C. 05.20.36 # It's not the winter! 05.21.01 # When we have 0 in Novosibirsk was about -45C (a couple of days ago)... 05.21.08 # It's spring temperature. 05.21.10 # Novosibirsk - Russia 05.21.40 # lostlogic: What about time? 05.21.44 # where is that coooollllddd place? 05.21.52 # the time here? 22:21 05.22.05 # you are .. 11:21? 05.22.09 # :) 7:22 05.22.13 # The Russia is much cold. 05.22.17 # gah, very early there. 05.22.23 # here is 13:22 05.22.29 # I was here all night :) 05.22.42 # hehehe 05.22.43 # That is why "NightCat" 05.22.49 # haha 05.22.52 # yes 05.23.02 # I'll be heading off to bed within 1.5hr, have to work 0900-1700 every day 05.23.21 # 9-5, eh? me too 05.23.38 # And I'm a student... 05.23.46 # You work so a little. 05.24.05 # Jungti1234: am lucky, have a good job. 05.24.21 # lostlogic: How it will be: the time when students passes their exams? 05.24.31 # Koreans work to 8-18(~24). 05.24.58 # Jungti1234: I used to work 8-18 at my last job 05.25.07 # NightCat: hmm... final exams? 05.25.19 # or the time between exams and next semester? 05.25.19 # Not final... 05.25.23 # midterms? 05.25.28 # Yes 05.25.30 # ok 05.25.51 # so what are you doing working on rockbox if it's midterms for you??? 05.25.52 # I studying in the university... 05.26.13 # lostlogic: Cause I'm a programmist :) 05.26.37 # And it is my creed. 05.26.41 # haha 05.27.06 # are you studying computer science (programming) at university? 05.27.34 Quit Membrillo () 05.28.15 # Yep: Institute of management and information technologies. Faculty of applied computer science in economy. 05.28.39 # Starcraft 1.13f patch released! 05.28.42 # haha 05.28.45 # (And i'm working in a small computer firm since 15) 05.30.16 # Jungti1234: What are you talking about? 05.30.31 # a game... 05.30.56 # lostlogic: I now this game but why here and now :) 05.31.07 # Don't you know starcraft? 05.31.14 # Jungti1234: fan? 05.31.27 # ? 05.31.33 # I don't understand 05.31.40 # My head hurts thinking about you two communicating through two layers of translation :-\ 05.31.49 # Jungti1234: Are You a fan of this game? 05.32.01 # A little . 05.32.17 # lostlogic: It's ok :) 05.32.27 # Korean likes most starcraft. 05.32.49 # -> most korean likes starcraft. 05.32.50 # lostlogic: Did you know a thing named Skype? 05.33.05 # Jungti1234: :) 05.33.06 # I have heard of it, but never used it. 05.33.30 # lostlogic: It's like ICQ but made for voice talking. 05.34.08 # lostlogic: Some time ago a use it to talk to different people around the world :) 05.34.32 # lostlogic: And it was very funny :) 05.34.33 # NightCat: yep, I know people that use it, I tend to prefer typing to communicate, because I type faster than I speak 05.34.36 # hahah, I bet 05.35.09 # :) 05.36.24 # Moreover my sister tryed to do this too :) (She don't know English at all) :) 05.36.43 # And it was really funny :) 05.37.05 # hahaha 05.37.33 # hahaha, I have enough trouble talking to people from England or Australia :-P 05.37.38 # English is a good language I think... I don't like German... 05.37.51 # I like Korean! 05.38.40 # I don't English because I do Korean. 05.38.45 # lostlogic: I have one talk with Korean man who live somewhere in the Atlantic ocean (he works policeman there) 05.39.02 # hehe 05.39.09 # There is problem when speak with you. 05.39.26 # Jungti1234: What you mean? 05.39.46 # English is ... a useful language. It is very direct and can be used to communicate with few words and few sylables. It is however stupid, lacking in rules, and in other ways irritating. 05.39.53 # I really like Spanish, and wish I knew more of it 05.39.55 # Is problem as it does English. 05.40.16 # I don't well English. 05.40.29 # Is there in English phrase "To play the fool"? 05.40.37 # yes 05.40.43 # The Korea speaks only Korean. 05.40.56 # (It means to spend time in vain, yes?) 05.41.01 # Jungti1234: nobody there knows English 05.41.10 # Jungti1234: Why? 05.41.22 # ? 05.41.35 # NightCat: hmm, to play the fool in English seem to mean to pretend not to understand in order to draw another out 05.41.45 # English is no necessity to talk with Koreans. 05.42.20 # lostlogic: Ah, I understand - stupid translator... 05.42.31 # Korean studies English. Don't learn English. 05.42.35 # lostlogic: Moment... 05.42.44 # It's foolish act. 05.42.59 # NightCat: How do you study English and not learn? 05.43.40 # I was studying it at school... 05.44.16 # But I think there was not very much material :) 05.44.16 # sorry, that was addressed to Jungti1234 05.44.28 # NightCat: are you using a translating program to help you speak in English here? 05.44.29 # Oh :) 05.44.48 # I use.] 05.44.56 # Sometimes with hard to understand words... 05.45.16 # 'Language' doesn't study. 05.45.24 # Learn. 05.45.42 # I think the main in language is vocabulary. 05.46.08 # NightCat: for only communication yes. but to really speak a language fluently you need much more. 05.46.09 # yes 05.46.26 # But, Korean school teaches syntax. 05.46.46 # lostlogic: You're right... 05.47.12 Join bagawk [0] (n=lee@70-58-156-201.eugn.qwest.net) 05.47.25 # For ex. RB helps me to learn English :) 05.47.39 # hehe :) 05.47.40 # me too hehe 05.47.46 # I used google translation first time. 05.47.56 # It's broken. 05.48.15 # People didn't understand my speech. 05.48.31 # I changed translation program. 05.48.42 # All machine translators are bad translators... 05.48.50 # some worse than others 05.48.56 # Yes 05.48.59 # Now, people understand few my speech. 05.48.59 # we can understand Jungti at least now ;) 05.49.18 # hehe :D 05.49.28 # And what about fool? 05.49.42 # To play a fool and to ... a fool... 05.49.59 # don't follow. 05.50.11 # What meaning is it? 05.50.28 # We also have phrase "to play a fool". 05.50.35 # (I am about phrases :)) 05.51.03 # Are you fool? :P 05.51.16 # No :) 05.51.24 # hehe 05.51.52 # But we have phrase connected with fool wich means to waste time... 05.52.06 # "Fool around"? 05.52.28 # (of course "fool around" can mean something else ... between a couple) 05.52.37 # It is about wasteing of time? 05.52.52 # "fool around" or "goof off" are wasting time 05.53.21 # Oh yes, my translator translates it :) 05.53.32 # hehe :) 05.53.34 # translates = translated... 05.53.42 # gkkkldfs 05.54.09 # http://club.iriver.co.kr/digital/bbs_free_view.asp?free_board_idx=231397 05.54.26 # To play a fool = ñòðîèòü äóðî÷êà\äóðî÷êó. fool around = Âàëÿòü äóðîêà. 05.54.50 # -_-? 05.55.02 # lol... russian characters... don't show up well in my terminal. 05.55.05 # Jungti1234: what is that post about??? 05.55.08 # Jungti1234: Very funny :-/ 05.55.27 # lostlogic: I think about Korean :) 05.55.37 # heh 05.56.32 # http://love.dakda.com/?nightcat 05.56.43 # H300 LCD's problem. 05.56.46 # It's my website :) 05.57.03 # It's serious problem in the Korea. 05.57.12 # http://love.dakda.com/?nightcat ?? 05.57.12 # Jungti1234: What problem? 05.57.12 # who's the picture? 05.57.26 # lostlogic: It's I :) 05.57.31 # Jungti1234: I wonder if it was the early release in Korea only that got the bad LCDs...? 05.57.39 # NightCat: and who's the pretty lady??? 05.58.16 # http://love.dakda.com/userphotos/1_3_b.jpg ? 05.58.29 # H300 LCD is problem. 05.58.42 # I talked it before. 05.59.06 # http://love.dakda.com/images/left.gif <- Who is this person? 05.59.14 # haha, yeah 05.59.37 # http://love.dakda.com/images/left.gif ? It is just a picture :) 05.59.40 # http://love.dakda.com/index.php?err404=true ??? 05.59.41 # ahahahaha 06.00.06 # haha 06.00.10 # um.. 06.00.14 # ¬£¬à¬Ù¬Þ¬à¬Ø¬ß¬í¬Ö ¬á¬â¬Ú¬é¬Ú¬ß¬í 06.00.28 # I don't know Russian. 06.00.50 # You doesn't need it :) 06.01.18 # NightCat: you have some very personal information on your site 06.01.19 # http://love.dakda.com/userphotos/1_3_b.jpg - I am. 06.01.31 # http://love.dakda.com - Just my website. 06.02.03 # um 06.02.11 # Very young. 06.02.44 # It's an service of acquaintances (my websait). I'm 18. 06.03.09 # lostlogic: You know Russia? 06.03.16 # NightCat: used a translator 06.03.18 # lostlogic:Or use translator? 06.03.22 # Ok :) 06.03.44 # lostlogic: yes cause it's an service of acquaintances. 06.03.53 # I'm 17 06.04.02 # lostlogic: I did it myself when learning PHP. 06.04.05 Quit akaidiot (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.04.27 # PHP 06.04.40 # I know a little HTML and PHP. 06.04.41 # Yes PHP MySQL CSS HTML JS 06.04.47 # CSS too 06.05.20 # NightCat: :) not bad... you're also tiny, if I'm converting metric to stupid english units right. 06.05.41 # lostlogic: In PHP there are a lot of buildin functions for working with strings :) 06.06.02 # NightCat: of course, it's for building websites, which are essentially big strings. 06.06.08 # 1,65 in metric. 06.06.23 # I believe I'm 172cm 06.06.26 # a second 06.06.29 # O 06.06.29 # I'm 175cm 06.06.33 # I'm 180 06.06.51 # koreans for the win! 06.06.52 # DreamTactix291: Hi :) 06.06.58 # yo 06.07.00 # haha 06.07.15 # metric ftw 06.07.16 # Anyone else? 06.07.17 # and uhh I'm 68.5kg 06.07.23 # i'm 58kg 06.07.30 # I'm about 56... 06.08.00 # People, I think we have to save the histori of IRC today :) 06.08.04 # haha, and we've officially reduced #rockbox to Just Another Chat Room recently. 06.08.05 # hey.... :) 06.08.12 # nothing wrong with that 06.08.13 # I'm 85kg -_- 06.08.23 # and besides important stuff still gets discussed 06.08.37 # Jungti1234: I'll have to remember that you're bigger than me. :-P 06.08.43 # yeah same here 06.08.43 # kk 06.08.48 # my brother is a lot bigger than me 06.08.49 # http://jungti1234.netcci.net/mypic.jpg 06.08.49 # he's 06.08.58 # DreamTactix291: have you tried out my AB-repeat for swcodec patch? 06.09.02 # hua 06.09.26 # 188cm and 104kg 06.09.34 # lostlogic: nope 06.09.41 # who? 06.09.45 # my brother 06.09.48 # oh.. 06.09.51 # younger brother 06.10.14 # http://lostlogicx.com/cgi-perl/pics.pl?COMMAND=FILE&FILE=/images/pics/brandon/1124and-r1-054-25a.jpg&SIZE=800 <-- but _I_ carry a sword. 06.10.30 # (you can't see them, but I'm on inline skates in that pic) 06.10.34 # oh 06.10.40 # umm 06.10.41 # hehe 06.10.46 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c210-49-190-113.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) 06.10.52 # i have a pic of me and my girl 06.11.05 # http://www.rhythmplanetno1.com/hosted/CarPics/DSC00070.JPG 06.11.07 # hey NightCat 06.11.10 # DreamTactix291: gah, what have I missed... last time I really talked to you, you swore you'd never have a girl... 06.11.24 # dt: 404 06.11.27 # http://love.dakda.com/userphotos/1_3_b.jpg = http://love.dakda.com/images/left.gif ??? 06.11.29 # err 06.11.32 # http://www.rhythmplanetno1.com/hosted/DSC00070.JPG 06.11.36 # Jungti1234: What? 06.11.39 # added directory accidentally 06.11.51 # Jungti1234: left.jpg is just a stock image 06.12.14 # DreamTactix291: Are you woman? 06.12.18 # Jungti1234: NO 06.12.18 # no 06.12.28 # i'm male 06.12.30 # i just have long hair 06.13.06 # damn dude, your girl is a cutie -- you go! 06.13.11 # I see they are woman. 06.13.29 # thanks 06.14.04 # i think she's cute too :P 06.14.10 # hehe 06.14.35 # either she's really young or i'm just getting old 06.15.06 # Em... This is my girlfriend: http://love.dakda.com/userphotos/179_1_b.jpg 06.15.31 # cute 06.15.51 # Thx :) 06.16.01 # my girl is only 18 lol 06.16.19 # I swear... russian chicks... I gotta learn russian. 06.16.20 # And my is 17 06.16.33 # DT: How old are you? 06.16.35 # 17 is illegal for me where i live 06.16.37 # 22 in 2 days 06.17.06 # wjpwpwdk 06.17.45 # lostlogic: Come on a visit :) 06.18.01 # http://bling.properkernel.com/brooke/albums/09_09_2005/21st_018.sized.jpg (as long as we're doing girls pics) 06.18.04 # NightCat: :) 06.18.12 # NightCat: She is beautiful 06.18.16 # NightCat: some day I'll manage to get off of this continent. 06.18.26 # lostlogic: same for me 06.18.34 # lostlogic: Let me know. 06.18.53 # on a completely unrelated note Symphony X owns 06.19.11 # DreamTactix291: whadat? Have you heard ChronoSymphonic? _it_ pwnz 06.19.28 # Symphony X = prog metal band 06.19.35 # actually kinda similar to Dream Theater but heavier 06.21.09 # Ok, people I was very pleased to talking with all of you (especially lostlogic) but i have to go... Sometime so we shall goof off again (talk about something)! 06.21.27 # sleep well nightcat 06.21.33 # Thx :) 06.22.00 # night NightCat 06.22.07 # bye 06.23.00 # Bye 06.23.04 Part NightCat 06.23.37 # Are all Europeans sleeping? 06.24.43 # it's like 5am there, so probably. 06.25.31 # Paprica, Why your nickname is '^Guest37784'? :P 06.26.13 # http://cafefiles.naver.net/data16/2006/1/19/166/DSCF4893.jpg 06.30.57 Join lennyk [0] (n=18cdfed5@labb.contactor.se) 06.33.10 # hey everybody. here's my story. I've been trying to patch a build and build it, but it only seemed to have taken effect when I used the source off the daily build page. when I did a cvs checkout, after building and loading it on the target it was clear the build was not patched. any ideas what I did wrong? 06.33.54 # lennyk: patch a build in what way? 06.35.27 # lostlogic: "patch -p0 --binary < ~/patchfile.patch" and then IF it asked me for what file to patch I directed it to apps/filetobepatched.c (from the 06.35.41 # directory below apps) 06.36.22 # and you build and build zip and unzip onto the target? 06.36.27 # yes 06.37.02 # I must have done something wrong, it's just strange that with the same steps it worked with a daily build source but not with a cvs checkout source 06.37.18 # if you do a cvs diff from your CVS checkout dir, does it show the right files changed? 06.37.52 # I've never made a diff... what do type 06.37.53 Quit lennyk ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 06.37.53 Quit stamppot ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 06.38.36 # ¤Ç¤Ñ 06.38.39 # hm 06.38.44 # cvs diff 06.39.57 # He exited 06.39.59 Join lennyk [0] (n=18cdfed5@labb.contactor.se) 06.40.06 # ow 06.40.13 # back you said "cvs diff" 06.40.39 # yeah 06.41.17 # i'll try it. it'll be a minute. don't have the cvs checkout files anymore 06.42.42 # I did easily it. 06.50.31 Quit Jungti1234 () 06.55.39 # lostlogic: well, thanks but apparently it worked this time. it was obviously my fault although I have no idea what I did this time that I didn't do the the first five times. Thanks 06.58.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.02.37 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@124.60.15.86) 07.03.15 # hmm 07.04.29 Part lennyk 07.04.35 Quit ashridah (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.07.11 Quit RotAtoR ("zzzzzzzz") 07.26.30 Join Membrillo [0] (n=sam_kill@CPE-60-229-179-140.nsw.bigpond.net.au) 07.28.43 # at what voltage does rockbox shut down the player on H3xxs? 07.28.49 # for low battery? 07.30.00 # 3.39v 07.30.06 # hmmm 07.30.16 # my player is acting very peculiarily then 07.30.16 # is considered dangerous where the disc has a hard time spinning up 07.30.26 # are you running H3x0 optimized? and howso? 07.34.04 # well i had my player running for a couple of hours and it was at 3.82v. All of a sudden it turned off randomly. Holding down play wouldnt do anything. I then held down record and play and the original firmware started. I shut down the original firmware and held play. Rockbox started but after about 5 seconds it shut down again. I then held record and play again to make sure i could access the original firmware and the rockbox bo 07.34.45 # old battery? new battery? anything bad happen to battery recently? 07.35.07 # original untouched battery. nothing happened to it. working fine. H3xx optimized build 07.35.16 # was working fine that is 07.35.18 # hey Membrillo 07.35.20 # bug! 07.35.30 # what bug? 07.35.40 # there is a battery bug? 07.35.56 # wait 07.36.23 # Membrillo: very weird. 07.36.40 # zip doesn't auto unzip. 07.36.42 # should i stop it charging and see if rockbox will boot? 07.36.57 # Jungti1234: doesnt it? 07.36.58 # I would boot into iRiver firmware and let it charge for a while 07.36.59 # ill check it out 07.37.06 # It's rockbox downloader's bug. 07.37.18 # Jungti1234: yes, ill check it out 07.37.27 # lostlogic: ok ill leave it charging for a while 07.38.05 # lostlogic: can i plug in USB to make a backup of my HD in case it dies? 07.38.11 # sure 07.38.13 # while leaving the charger in? 07.38.15 # ok 07.38.47 # ummm 07.38.58 # it says connected on my screen but nothings coming up on my pc 07.39.01 # how very strange 07.39.23 # my iriver better not be confucked 07.39.43 # my iriver just shot off again 07.39.47 # shut down* 07.40.17 # shut down while in USB mode 07.40.23 # hmmm how very weird 07.40.26 # bad iriver 07.40.33 # sounds like your disk might be what's being flakey :-\ 07.40.45 # damn it 07.40.49 # please no 07.40.58 # i dont have any copy of my 20gb of music 07.41.01 # i was just about to make one 07.41.19 # 1) reset, 2) let cool, 3) boot into iRiver firmware and USB connect. 07.41.33 # wait 07.41.35 # its working now 07.41.41 # USB is working on my PC 07.41.51 # ill copy everything to my PC in case 07.42.44 # yeah iriver is bad 07.42.46 # haha 07.43.01 # 35min remaining on the copy clock 07.43.12 # come on rivey, dont die on me now 07.43.35 # ah fuck 07.43.39 # it just shut down again 07.43.50 # hm 07.44.42 # i think leaving it to charge is my only hope 07.45.09 # ill leave it off for a little while first 07.45.29 # what is profiling? 07.45.44 Join akaidiot [0] (n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 07.46.43 # software performance analysis 07.46.48 # Jungti1234: what problem did you find in the downloader? 07.47.27 # I seted it to do unzip automatically. 07.47.34 # yeah 07.47.41 # But, it didn't work. 07.47.49 # what happened? 07.47.52 # error? 07.47.55 # I don't know 07.48.03 # did something pop up? 07.48.07 # no 07.48.19 # Paprica! 07.48.29 # ^Guest37784! 07.49.16 # Jungti1234: for what player and what build? 07.49.29 # H120, H300 07.49.45 # I tested it only. 07.49.49 # oh 07.49.56 # it says please choose unzip destination? 07.50.06 # ive just found that 07.50.23 # hmmm 07.50.25 # that needs fixing 07.50.35 # im not sure why that happens 07.51.22 # hm 07.51.28 # is that the problem you had? 07.52.06 # I seted it to do unzip to I: (H300). 07.52.24 # and what happened? 07.53.07 # And do unzip and did so that file may be deleted. 07.53.11 Join BHSPitLappy2 [0] (i=Steve-O@67-64-150-195.ded.swbell.net) 07.53.15 # (Translation is strange) 07.54.12 # i think that settles it. my iriver is McFuckered 07.54.13 Join BHSPitMonkey_ [0] (n=billybob@adsl-67-64-150-195.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 07.54.25 # goodbye poor ipod :'( 07.54.31 # iriver* 07.54.35 # heh 07.54.39 # Membrillo: why you say that now? 07.54.50 # it wont do anything anymore 07.55.01 # :| 07.55.04 # that sucks 07.55.05 # every now and then im able to get it to go into charging mode 07.55.15 # but i cant boot rockbox at all 07.55.20 # and iriver firmware is on and off 07.55.36 # should i try flashing to a clean firmware? 07.55.41 # But, zip doesn't unzip and file deleted. 07.55.47 # Membrillo: don't try flashing anything. 07.56.08 # lostlogic: ok, thats actually pretty wise :P seeing it will probably shut off half way through 07.56.31 # Membrillo: turn it off to rest, and then if you can still get into USB mode and mount it, try a rockbox I want to send you 07.56.36 # Aren't you that your battery is discharged? 07.56.38 # do you suspect my battery or my harddrive is stuuffing it up? 07.56.47 # ok, 07.56.48 # leaning back toward battery now. 07.56.52 # good 07.56.59 # http://cafe.naver.com/iriverh300/1695 07.57.00 # batteries are cheaper than harddrives 07.57.08 # Same problem 07.57.10 # and they dont have my music collection stored on them 07.57.21 # please tell me you have a backup 07.57.31 # DreamTactix291: nope i was just about to do one 07.57.35 # :| 07.57.36 # Jungti1234: is that same problem also a rockbox H300 Optimized User? 07.57.44 # my music collection is backed up 3 times 07.57.50 # 2 lossless and 1 lossy 07.57.51 # I don't know. 07.58.11 # A/S! 07.58.17 # lostlogic: is there a build you want to send me? 07.58.40 # because i dont think its a build thing. sometimes the bootloader doesnt even come up 07.58.42 # I'm beginning to fear that the patch that I asked needleboy to remove from H300 optimized might be part of the problem here, but won't have any verification unless Membrillo's player will boot at least partway from something 07.58.43 # Membrillo, Go to iriverzone 07.58.52 # Membrillo: yeah, will in 1s 07.59.01 # Membrillo: let it rest still. 07.59.06 # rest? 07.59.08 # ok sure 07.59.12 # its on charge now 07.59.13 # but ok 07.59.20 # yeah, just off, nothing plugged, nothing doing. 07.59.37 # have done 08.00.28 # in the meantime, download http://lostlogicx.com:/transfer/rockbox.zip 08.00.47 # okey doke 08.01.34 # ok, try to get into either rockbox bootloader USB mode or iRiver USB mode and install that build 08.01.38 Join BHSPitGrr [0] (n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) 08.01.45 # recommend windows commandline unzip 08.01.46 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Nick collision from services.) 08.01.48 # not GUI unzip 08.01.52 Quit BHSPitLappy (Nick collision from services.) 08.02.04 # how do i operate windows commandline unzip? 08.02.19 # from commandline, navigate (with cd) to the location of rockbox.zip 08.02.20 Join Bger [0] (n=Bager@83.222.160.88) 08.02.24 # ok 08.02.30 Nick BHSPitGrr is now known as BHSPitLappy (n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) 08.02.31 # then do unzip -d DRIVE:\ rockbox.zip 08.02.36 # where DRIVE is the drive letter of your iRiver 08.03.12 # then try to boot the player into rockbox, start boot, and immediately on seeing bootloader, plug in. 08.03.26 # plug in USB or AC? 08.03.31 # AC 08.03.59 # ummmm 08.04.07 # i just plugged in the USB from off and it went to iriver 08.04.23 # Didn't you find bug? 08.04.32 # weird, but if you can get it to write the files, great. 08.05.41 # ok, i couldnt work out commandline so i did it through winzip, but i put the files on there 08.05.44 Quit BHSPitLappy (Client Quit) 08.05.48 # ok 08.05.52 # so nopw 08.05.53 # now* 08.05.58 # hold play and plug in AC 08.06.32 # yep 08.06.35 Join BHSPitGrr [0] (n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) 08.06.57 # so far so good 08.07.06 # its in rockbox and hasnt shut off 08.07.18 # ok 08.07.20 Nick BHSPitGrr is now known as BHSPitLappy (n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) 08.07.21 # i think thats fixed it 08.07.27 # sounds like that patch is needed 08.07.29 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 08.07.35 # LOSTLOGIC YOU ARE A FREAKING GENIUS 08.07.41 # can you poke at needleboy and have him remove my broken patch from h3x0 optimized 08.07.55 # Membrillo: it was me that broke it in the first place, so don't send too much praise. 08.08.01 # lol 08.08.03 # still 08.08.15 # on MR? 08.08.31 # yarr, it'll overlap and break by tomorrow any way because I'm about to commit what I just sent you. 08.09.04 # so i need to PM him or not?\ 08.09.26 # up to you, I just hope other users don't end up in the same situ as you. 08.09.32 # yeah 08.09.35 # it should be non-terminal, but could be quite irritating. 08.09.36 Quit Jungti1234 () 08.10.32 Join rok [0] (i=rok@200.175.28.129.dialup.gvt.net.br) 08.11.00 Quit BHSPitMonkey_ (Connection timed out) 08.11.06 # Lostlogic has asked if you could remove his broken battery patch from the optomized build as it causes A LOT of problems when the battery gets low (as i've just found out, coming close to killing my player). 08.11.06 # If you could do it ASAP before more people get into nasty situations as I did, that would be good. 08.11.17 # thanks 08.11.31 Quit BHSPitLappy2 (Connection timed out) 08.11.43 # morning :) 08.11.45 # what patch ? 08.11.49 # @find pimsleur 08.11.50 # done 08.12.14 # was a patch that I'd posted on sourceforge that was a first whack at h3x0 charge control and reporting, and turns out to be 1) wrong and 2) possibly unhealthy 08.12.33 # ah :) 08.12.35 # my player got sick :( 08.12.57 Quit rok (Client Quit) 08.12.58 # I have the reporting part about ready to commit (it's what Membrillo's running now) 08.13.14 # needleboy is online now at MR so he should get that PM quickly 08.13.34 # nice 08.13.42 # ok time to do a backup of my harddrive!!!!!!! 08.13.57 # now ive been in that situation i realise i have to do it ASAP 08.13.58 # very good, lostlogic 08.14.38 # Bger: what do you think about offering battery status to the GUI at 2hz instead of 1/60hz? Can look unsmooth, but it's what I prefer, and we have the info to offer it up every 2hz already. 08.14.41 # lostlogic: why was that battery patch affecting the bootloader though? 08.15.10 # i thought the build couldnt tamper with the bootloader at all? 08.15.18 # Membrillo: it changes the state of the PCF50606 power management unit, I'm not sure exactly why it was making things unhappy, just some theories and conjectures. 08.15.33 # ah ok 08.15.42 # that's why it was important that you get just past bootloader into that new firmware I sent you as it resets the PCF50606 right. 08.15.45 # lostlogic i'm not the one to make such decision... 08.16.18 # Bger: just looking for an opinion to see if my preference is common, no 'authority' needed. 08.16.37 # what is a good compression program thats good at making multi-volume archives? 08.16.49 # rar is popular for windows users. 08.16.54 # yeah 08.16.55 # winrar, but I believe it's pay 08.16.59 # you mean 2 times/sec instead of 60 times/sec ? 08.17.04 # morning 08.17.05 # ill turn my music collection into 3.7gb files then burn to DVDr 08.17.08 # Bger: instead of 1 time per minute 08.17.17 # winrar isnt pay 08.17.31 # ill check it out 08.17.33 # but now im off 08.17.51 # once again lostlogic, thanks for saving my player, even if you did kinda kill it to begin with :P 08.18.13 # Membrillo: np ;) 08.18.17 Quit Membrillo () 08.19.42 # Afaik winrar is 30-day-trial shareware 08.19.46 # amiconn: your opinion on the frequency of battery status updates? (2hz vs .0166hz) 08.20.50 # amiconn but it works very well after the trial period 08.21.16 # I prefer software w/o nag screen. 08.21.57 # For windows: Filzip has good multivolume .zip support, and is freeware 08.22.13 # but with worse compression 08.22.22 # It also unpacks .rar, .ice, .lzh, ... 08.27.15 # i love filzip 08.27.39 # lostlogic: There's a bug in the current sokoban 08.27.41 # you'll usually find it open on my windows pc... 08.27.53 # amiconn: ? 08.28.22 # You can go past the last level with 'next level'. It then crashes... 08.28.48 # Also, I wonder why you seem to prefer literal values over named macros 08.28.57 # whereat? 08.29.06 # There was #define SOKOBAN_LEVEL_SIZE (ROWS*COLS) 08.29.42 # This is now removed, and #define MAX_BUFFERED_BOARDS uses literat 16*20 instead 08.29.49 # *literal 08.30.28 # I'll check whether the crash happens on all targets, first test was on recv1 08.30.47 # oops, I removed that at one point in creating the level buffering and then in a later did it differently and didn't recreate the define. 08.31.49 # iRiver "You WIN"s ok... so it must have to do with the bufferring next set code (as iRiver doesn't need to) 08.33.58 # In fact it's not a crash, sorry 08.34.20 # just looks like one and freezes audio playback? 08.34.25 # yeah, that should be done better. 08.34.26 # It just 'flashes' the 'you win' screen so damn fast that it's unreadable 08.35.10 # Seems like a good test for the lcd driver speed... 08.35.14 # hehe 08.37.15 # Levels 1..76 are cached at once on recorder 08.37.27 # yep 08.38.06 # that takes 24k of RAM 08.38.32 # so it would take like 34 to cache them all and would leave -2k for the plugin code on the smaller targets 08.39.17 # It takes less than 24K of RAM 08.39.33 # Ah, no 08.39.57 # this time, I think my math was actually right :-P 08.40.14 # * amiconn seems to be not quite awake :/ 08.40.22 # Some remarks regarding charging on H300 08.40.42 # I charged my H300 overnight while staying in the 'View IO ports' debug screen 08.41.02 # The battery got charged, and GPIO23 properly reflects end-of-charge 08.41.19 # yeah, that's what the code I'm now feeling is 'ready' uses 08.41.45 # amiconn you have h300 ?? 08.43.27 # amiconn: just put in another revision of sokoban so that it sleeps at least a little on the You WIN and resurrected the symbolic name for level size 08.44.15 # Whoa, the 'you win' is real eye-strain on H300 08.46.51 Join perplexity [0] (i=heh1282@217.165.99.160) 08.48.14 # amiconn: just put in the charge state for H3x0, if you'd like to review it. 08.48.24 # (and then I must sleep) 08.50.56 Quit aliask ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.3 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]") 08.57.02 # is the autobuild system totally linear? if so I must sleep before it's done building :-\ 08.58.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.58.59 # lostlogic better go to bed;) 08.59.46 # deepest apologies if I broke the targets I can't build here, will fix first thing if someone else hasn't. g'night. 08.59.55 # nite 09.00.59 Join B4gder [0] (n=daniel@static-213-115-255-230.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se) 09.01.05 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-129-202.pools.arcor-ip.net) 09.03.22 Quit akaidiot (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.08.39 Join BHSPitLappy2 [0] (n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) 09.08.47 Quit BHSPitLappy (Nick collision from services.) 09.08.59 Nick BHSPitLappy2 is now known as BHSPitLappy (n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) 09.21.58 Quit darkless (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.22.15 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48.adsl.vby.tiscali.dk) 09.23.30 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.25.48 # lostlogic: There is some potential for #ifdef reduction in your latest commit. Perhaps I should look into this, but it would need an fm recorder or recorder v2 owner to test this 09.26.22 Join DJDD___ [0] (n=DJDD@220-245-186-182.static.tpgi.com.au) 09.26.41 Join jborn_ [0] (n=jborn@ppp-70-230-75-27.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) 09.27.16 Quit Kohlrabi (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.28.30 Join jborn__ [0] (n=jborn@ppp-70-230-75-27.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) 09.38.38 Join EvilDude [0] (i=EvilDude@61.1.188.147) 09.42.17 # I see RED :( 09.43.03 # red red red 09.43.21 Quit JoeBorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.44.34 Quit DJDD__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.45.49 Quit jborn_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.50.04 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@labb.contactor.se) 09.50.24 Join Zagor [0] (n=bjst@194-237-150-170.customer.telia.com) 09.51.08 # major redness in the build table 09.51.39 # lostlogic: boooh 09.53.13 Quit uwe_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.53.29 # Is anyone looking at the red builds? Seems that lostlogic has gone to bed... 09.54.17 # that kind of hit'n'run commits are not very appreciated 09.56.11 # red? 09.57.18 # BHSPitLappy: See this page: http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml 09.58.00 # Every time someone commits a change to CVS, the server rebuilds all the Rockbox targets - red means that there was a fatal error and the build is broken. 09.58.13 # oh 09.58.26 # We then all get to point accusingly at the person who committed that change... 09.58.52 # not to forget: the evil laughter ;-) 09.59.31 Join needleboy [0] (n=3e00550c@labb.contactor.se) 09.59.48 # good morning 09.59.54 # hm 10.00.01 # I'm not even sure how to fix the red for the FM 10.00.27 # could anyone please tell me what needs to be changed in plugins to fix the "incompatible model" error? 10.00.44 # Just rebuild them? 10.00.52 # needleboy: use PLUGIN_HEADER 10.00.53 # yeah? that's it? 10.01.14 # B4gder: where :) 10.01.20 # there are like 30 examples to check 10.01.24 # linuxstb: btw, my new UIE code tells me there's an address error in flac 10.01.32 # linuxstb: probably in seektable load 10.01.35 # Ah... 10.01.50 # examples? in the source you mean? 10.01.54 # yes 10.01.56 # i'll take a look at rockboy 10.01.58 # all the plugins are fixed 10.01.59 # thatnks 10.02.05 # i mean 3rd party plugins 10.02.09 # I know 10.02.10 # ok, i'll check thanks. 10.02.19 # but they are not our problem 10.03.33 # Timestamp 10.03.33 # 2006-01-19 08:11 3 8 8 8 8 8 0 8 8 0 0 8 8 3 8 0 8 8 8 0 8 8 8 0 0 8 0 0 8 8 0 0 8 8 10.03.35 # wow 10.03.38 # preglow: Yes, that sounds possible. The ipod is the first SWCODEC platform that chokes on unaligned memory accesses. So we have some fun ahead... 10.05.26 # at least unaligned access are clearly visible ;-) 10.05.27 # preglow: I also had a moment of clarity last night - the "reboot-to-diskmode" code simply writes a string to the end of IRAM. The Nano/Video's IRAM is larger, so the string had to be written to a different address. 10.05.59 # The Apple bootloader obviously checks for that string, and behaves accordingly. 10.06.44 # linuxstb: yeah, noticed 10.06.44 Quit needleboy ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 10.06.46 # So we could do the same in our bootloader - if you want "reboot-to-diskmode" to go to the retailos on the Nano, then we can write a string to a different address in IRAM, and check for it in the bootloader. 10.07.07 # but yo, perhaps we should extend the real iram limits in the linker scripts for nano/video as well? 10.07.10 # i want to use :-) 10.07.13 # It seems that usb detection in the bootloader breaks loading retailos. 10.07.29 # haha 10.07.32 # nice build table 10.07.58 # are someone fixing it? 10.08.10 # its over my head 10.08.20 # I know too little about the charging/batteries 10.08.32 # * linuxstb knows less than B4gder 10.12.25 # then i've half a mind to just undo it 10.12.46 # might be a while until he comes back on 10.13.48 # yeah, I agree unless someone feels like taking a stab at a fix 10.14.15 # i can take a stab at something that just makes it compile, alright 10.14.24 # god knows what it'll end up doing 10.15.41 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@p54BD5A60.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.15.56 # charger_input_state is defined in a HAVE_CHARGING cage 10.16.06 # perhaps i just need to apply that around uses of it as well 10.16.28 # sounds fair 10.16.55 # no, the fix needs more than so 10.17.34 # in the FMrec build, TRICKLE is undefined 10.17.49 # since it is only defined if HAVE_CHARGE_CTRL is defined 10.18.15 # B4gder: that's a different thing 10.18.20 # yes 10.18.25 # but still a reason for red 10.18.50 # i wonder why CONFIG_BATTERY == BATT_LIION220 is used all over 10.19.01 # what does the battery type have to do with it? 10.19.52 # but yeah, it builds with that change, of course 10.20.03 # so, restore or fix? 10.22.19 Nick Lynx_awy is now known as Lynx_ (n=lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 10.23.21 # fix 10.23.37 # get more coffee! 10.25.30 # ok, i'll just commit a simple ifdef 10.25.50 # Have you tested the diskmode fix on your Nano yet? It worked on the Video, so I just assumed it would work on the Nano. 10.26.48 # hmm, will later, need to check up some things 10.27.09 # np 10.31.03 # i can test. 10.32.29 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-65-158.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) 10.33.14 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.33.14 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@p54BD5A60.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.34.31 Join honkster [0] (n=anadune@p548B2785.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 10.34.50 # charging a h340 via usb is slower than via wall socket, right? 10.35.00 # Hello, which Language? 10.35.05 # English? 10.35.26 # Can anyone helo me with my Rockbox Problems? 10.35.42 # Lynx_ way slower 10.35.51 # honkster shoto 10.35.55 # shoot 10.36.05 # Bger: ok 10.36.24 # excuse me, I´m a real newbie 10.37.57 Join uwe_ [0] (n=uwe@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) 10.39.06 # my Player freezes when starting Playback mode and doesn`t show any folder 10.39.19 # What player do you have? 10.39.27 # iHP140 10.39.47 Join Membrillo [0] (n=sam_kill@CPE-60-229-179-140.nsw.bigpond.net.au) 10.40.52 # What do you mean by "playback mode" ? How do you get there? 10.42.21 # after boot, theres got to be the Folder list, and after pressing the "Play" button the player freezes and shows only a msgbox with "loading" in it 10.42.52 # linuxstb: maybe a problem with playlist_control? 10.43.50 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-243-191.dsl.pipex.com) 10.45.27 Join akaidiot [0] (n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 10.48.42 # honkster: can you play a song by just clicking on it? 10.49.38 Quit YouCeyE ("Leaving") 10.50.30 # bah, i didn't notice the TRICKLE bugs 10.50.57 # i've just had some bad news and need to go for a while, could someone else deal with that? 10.53.14 # preglow go 10.54.36 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 10.56.31 Quit linuxstb (Nick collision from services.) 10.56.43 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 10.57.39 Join San [0] (n=test@194.125.99.125) 10.57.58 Join RA-Script [0] (n=anadune@p548B1E42.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 10.58.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.58.13 # sorry, my connection lost 10.59.30 Quit RA-Script (Client Quit) 11.01.20 Quit honkster (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.03.43 Join honkster [0] (n=anadune@p548B1E42.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.04.00 # sorry, my connection lost 11.04.44 # sorry, i´ll be back in 5 min 11.04.48 Quit honkster (Client Quit) 11.07.36 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=billybob@adsl-64-123-189-140.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 11.10.14 Part LinusN 11.10.28 Join BHSPitLappy2 [0] (i=Steve-O@adsl-64-123-189-140.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 11.10.31 Quit BHSPitLappy (Nick collision from services.) 11.10.46 Nick BHSPitLappy2 is now known as BHSPitLappy (i=Steve-O@adsl-64-123-189-140.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 11.12.14 Quit linuxstb_ (Connection timed out) 11.15.25 # nearly green table :) 11.17.30 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.19.55 Quit EvilDude () 11.21.02 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ipa135.1.tellas.gr) 11.26.37 # so, fm recorder doesn't have charging control ? 11.27.44 Join NicoFR [0] (n=nico404@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 11.29.52 Quit Membrillo () 11.33.04 # Bger: FM recorder has LiIon, so it has hw charging, but it as charging state detection, like the H300 11.34.03 # aha 11.34.07 # uf 11.35.30 # This is what I mean with #ifdef consolidation 11.38.40 # heh i need for sure more understanding of cvs 11.56.29 # uf :( 11.58.56 Join Membrillo [0] (n=sam_kill@CPE-60-229-179-140.nsw.bigpond.net.au) 12.00.02 # linuxstb: if you read the logs, the problem with my irivers power issue happened again when the voltage dropped to around 3.8v. Ive saved it by charging back up, but its still quite a problem 12.04.22 Quit akaidiot (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.05.03 # i think some work needs to be done on the H300 power mgmt 12.09.12 # Anyone got an idea about a multi-flash reader that works under linux? 12.09.18 # (if there is such a thing, that is) 12.25.45 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 12.28.23 # Bger here? 12.30.37 # XavierGr yep :) 12.30.57 # I updated again my patch, with all the thinks that we talked about. 12.31.31 # link ?:) 12.31.34 # ^things 12.31.58 # one moment please both sourceforge and my connetction are like turtles 12.33.32 # https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=1357370&group_id=44306&atid=439120 12.34.34 # also a guy that had an H300 applied my patch and used the plugin, while it worked okay when he was trying to load another plugin (while the benchmark was running) the player simply crashed. But in my H140 as hard as I could I couldn't crash it that way. 12.35.17 # Theoritically if the user loads another plugin the tsr one will just quit. Something must by fishy with the H300 code. 12.35.29 Quit TCK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.36.04 # XavierGr i'll look at this 12.36.55 Nick ^Guest37784 is now known as Paprica (i=Paprica@TLV62-0-106-155.bb.netvision.net.il) 12.39.29 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-122-123.VIC.netspace.net.au) 12.41.28 Join DJDD__ [0] (n=DJDD@220-245-186-182.static.tpgi.com.au) 12.42.40 # gawk, date, finger, wait, unzip, touch, nice, suck, strip, mount, fsck, umount, make clean, sleep: Who needs sex when you have /usr/bin? 12.42.43 # lol 12.43.53 Quit jborn__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.45.39 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@124.60.15.86) 12.46.04 Join petur [0] (n=d4efd6a6@labb.contactor.se) 12.46.09 # suck? 12.46.16 # anyone here familiar with font conversion? 12.46.48 # there's no suck in my /usr/bin anywhere 12.47.16 # BHSPitLappy: ask not if you can ask 12.47.27 # just ask and you'll find out 12.47.37 # well it's a longshot anyway :P 12.48.12 # converting a bdf to a fnt, wondering if i'm supposed to set a fixed font size somewhere 12.48.20 # nope 12.48.25 # the bdf contains the size 12.48.37 # hmm 12.48.54 # i converted a ttf to bdf (didn't prompt for size) 12.49.14 # my output fnt is double the file size of the other fonts that i know to work 12.49.38 # that's where you need to input size 12.49.39 # and it's unsuccessful, the reading program says it might be truncated 12.49.41 # ttf->bdf 12.49.57 # bdf is a raster format, ttf a vector format 12.50.10 # ah 12.50.12 # ttf => bdf without a given size seems... weird 12.50.18 # wasn't sure if bdf was scalable or not 12.50.20 # and completely arbitrary 12.50.23 # bdf is not scalable 12.50.28 # at least not unless i'm on crack 12.50.32 Quit NicoFR () 12.50.35 # oh weird... 12.50.38 # its a bitmap format 12.50.47 # preglow: i think you are 12.50.48 # load the .bdf format in your text editor and see ;-) 12.50.50 # cool 12.50.56 # since the ttf-bdf converter has size options 12.51.04 # B4gder: how :P 12.51.08 # hey 12.51.13 # i don't know how to test any of them 12.51.18 # just load it 12.51.24 # http://needleboy.net/files/scrsh1.jpg 12.51.25 # notepad hehe.bdf 12.51.29 # you don't "test it" by loading it in a text editor 12.51.33 # ok. 12.51.37 # you just view the bdf file 12.51.42 # How can I do equally with the thing? 12.52.11 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 12.52.14 # god, that colour hack is ugly 12.52.33 # -> How can I do equally with that? 12.52.42 Join stamppot [0] (n=524ba00e@labb.contactor.se) 12.53.27 Join mattpwest [0] (n=mwest@pf-office1-stp.infosat.net) 12.55.50 # Hi, everybody. It's my first time here, I'm interested in helping to port Rockbox to the iAudio X5. 12.56.55 # hey mattpwest 12.57.23 # ok 12.57.33 # so all that information the .bdf tells me 12.57.52 # is there some possible way to view those attributes of the .fnt files that i know to work? 12.57.55 Quit DJDD___ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.57.55 # so i can compare 12.58.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.58.43 # I figure you can compare with exsting and working fonts 12.58.51 # or read the convbdf source 12.58.55 # mattpwest: so, what can you do? 13.00.16 # I have some experience with C/C++, but not much on the assembler side. 13.00.25 # c will do nicely 13.00.51 # i just saw the option for cpu freq in the config settings... 13.00.58 # would changing that be a really bad idea? 13.01.08 # no, but it would be a waste of battery 13.01.16 # oh yeh? 13.01.29 # cpus don't work harder for free 13.01.41 # yeh i guess. 13.01.54 # and thinking about it i cant think why i would need it to run faster 13.01.56 # cpu slavery... 13.02.14 # steveb: rockbox uses the higher cpu freq itself all the time 13.02.22 # steveb: when doing stuff like decoding 13.02.27 # ah right 13.02.43 # but if you change it yourself, rockbox will run at a higher freq all the time 13.03.10 # ok next question: in that flipper plugin game thing, how do you actually win? ive been playing it for ages and im still left with 1 damn thing the wrong way around. 13.03.20 # if you start playback, then look in the cpu freq screen, you will see that it changes all the time 13.03.35 # flipper? 13.03.53 # flipit* 13.04.50 # mattpwest: for high level programmers, making sure the sim builds and works is a very good step as then things will work easier once the bootloader and low-level hw things are setup 13.05.28 # and once the sim works, you can work on "regular" rockbox stuff 13.05.49 # doing plugins, adding better color support or whatever 13.06.11 # i submitted a patch yesterday to get the uisimulator working for the X5. It compiles and runs now, but doesn't do much else (doesn't respond to keypresses except for printing keycodes). not sure what needs to be done next... 13.06.39 Quit Jungti1234 () 13.06.47 # it should respond... 13.08.07 # then i probably got something wrong, will look at it some more tonight. 13.08.38 # it was me who committed your first patch 13.09.17 Join ST [0] (i=STx@c211-31-10-10.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 13.10.04 # hey guys, do you have a link to the 'ROCKbox colormap' 13.10.46 # mattpwest: is there a second patch I should apply to make things work? 13.11.07 # im trying to edit the PaulJam 2.2.2 wps, with MegaVolt's Color WPS 13.11.08 # the one in entry 1408980 doesn't apply 13.12.02 # I don't know about any "colormap" 13.12.17 # i omitted 3 files from my patch (me stupid), so i removed the uploaded patch yesterday and replace it with a fixed one that contains everything... 13.12.31 # megavolts colour wps patch that is, which is in the optimized build, ok, how would i edit the wps, colour values 13.13.03 # mattpwest: but I already committed the first version, so now the new version conflicts massively against cvs 13.13.31 # ST: the "optimized" build is not our baby 13.13.49 # the "optimized" build looks like a bag of shit 13.14.15 # sorry, i'm new to cvs, should i replace it with the original and just add a second patch with the stuff i missed? 13.14.44 # mattpwest: the easiest approach (for us) is if you just make a new patch against what currently is in CVS 13.15.07 # most likely you just cvs update and cvs diff 13.15.14 # ok, will do that... 13.15.20 # B4gder: ok calm down, thx for your help 13.15.23 Quit ST () 13.15.43 # * B4gder is as calm as a... herring 13.15.51 # and by god, they're calm 13.15.54 # cool too 13.17.01 Join linuxstb [0] (n=d57b9aa9@labb.contactor.se) 13.17.20 # linuxstb: i get a prefetch abort some place in flac_init 13.17.36 # What's a prefetch abort? 13.17.41 # ehh, i mean data abort 13.17.48 # it's probably an unaligned access 13.17.50 # You mean an unaligned memory access? 13.17.58 # arm doesn't tell me what it is 13.18.04 # just that something happen in a data fetch/store 13.18.24 # but there really shouldn't be many other options 13.18.54 # nope 13.19.07 # B4gder: perhaps you can tell me what a prefetch abort is? 13.19.11 # i can't seem to find out 13.19.15 # preglow: I'll have a look. It wouldn't surprise me to see unaligned memory accesses. 13.19.22 # Have you tried the other codecs? 13.19.26 # yeah, they work 13.19.43 # gimme a sec and i'll find you an address where stuff goes wrong 13.19.55 # That's OK - I'll just read through and review the code. 13.19.57 # "If the instruction being executed was read in error, then it is flagged as causing a Prefetch Abort," 13.20.07 # "read in error" ? 13.20.10 # what's that? 13.20.29 # preglow: Did you get anywhere with the dircache? 13.20.41 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@124.60.15.86) 13.20.45 # linuxstb: here it is anyway, 0x01f00240 13.20.53 # "A Prefetch Abort occurs when you've attempted to execute code at an invalid memory address." 13.20.59 # amiconn found out where the error was 13.21.03 # What function is that in your .map ? 13.21.05 # from some address i gave him 13.21.08 # flac_init, like i said 13.21.18 # B4gder: what's an invalid memory address? 13.21.34 # B4gder: I want to make Korean Rockbox website. 13.21.41 # preglow: OK, thanks. 13.21.59 # B4gder: May I do it? 13.22.29 # linuxstb: not all files crash, so i'm guessing it's a seek table issue 13.22.42 # preglow: without MMU I can't think of many illegal addresses... 13.22.49 # B4gder: exactly 13.23.01 # but i did manage to provoke one 13.23.11 # just jumping to an arbitrary address, it did eventually give me one 13.23.23 # i guess perhaps i ran into some io ports 13.24.06 # B4gder: should i handle the reserved exception as well, or will i never ever see that? 13.25.35 # I don't know 13.25.50 # Jungti1234: what exactly does that mean? 13.26.28 Join BHSPitLappy2 [0] (i=Steve-O@adsl-64-123-189-140.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 13.27.15 # B4gder: I want to make to new website that translating contents of Rockbox website in Korean. 13.27.44 # Many Koreans want it too. 13.28.06 # Jungti1234: then go ahead. It'll be a hopeless race, since most of the site is the wiki and the wiki will change forever 13.28.26 # hmm. ok 13.28.43 # Jungti1234: i think i fixed the bug you found in the downloader 13.28.54 # We are going to use wiki too. 13.29.01 # Membrillo: ok 13.29.43 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@p548642A2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.29.55 # yay, green line 13.30.33 # green is good 13.31.23 # B4gder: i've added the a patch x5_keys_missing.patch to the tracker, with only current differences. 13.33.09 # applied fine 13.34.25 # * B4gder runs it, over wireless, ssh, adsl, cygwinX 13.34.34 # wow :) 13.34.53 # nice gibberish logo 13.35.07 # mattpwest: you run it with sdl? 13.35.12 # preglow: I don't have my ipod with me, but here is a patch if you want to test it: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/flac.diff 13.35.31 # B4gder: Is SDL working properly under cygwin now then? 13.35.49 # yeah, i figured that was the error as well 13.35.53 # I don't know, I don't build with cygwin 13.35.58 # Oh 13.35.58 # yes 13.36.22 # just forced to sit in front of windows at work 13.36.54 # Paul_The_Nerd: it's better than it was 13.37.01 # mattpwest: I couldn't get the menu to appear either ;-) 13.37.04 # Paul_The_Nerd: there's some issue i don't know enough about to fix 13.37.16 # and i've been kinda busy since i ported the threading to SDL's 13.37.23 # Paul_The_Nerd: AFAIK, it's still broken. The main problem is the "#if WIN32" conditionals in the firmware/ directory - which are meant for the win32 sim, but apply to the sdl sim under windows as well. 13.37.33 # linuxstb: no crash, but it doesn't play 13.37.35 # Aaah. 13.37.40 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.38.08 # i think there's a "codec error" flashing in from time to time 13.38.16 # linuxstb: my iriver is still having power issues 13.38.30 # Paprica 13.38.37 # Membrillo: I don't know why you are telling me - I know nothing about power issues... 13.38.41 # ? 13.38.55 # linuxstb: wasnt it you i was talking to earlier about it? 13.39.01 # Nope. :) 13.39.02 # Paprica: I found bug 13.39.10 # ah that was lostlogic. sorry my mistake 13.39.24 # lostlogic: if your here, im still having power issues 13.39.25 # where? 13.39.36 # In BrickMania 13.39.52 # ... 13.40.04 # lostlogic 13.40.06 # you here? 13.40.42 # Paprica: If ball goes to right, there is bug that don't come out yet. 13.41.16 # mm 13.41.21 # and 13.41.25 # i will check it 13.41.57 # Jungti1234 is the korean's Brightness ok now ? 13.42.02 # yes :) 13.42.06 # k 13.42.06 # thank you 13.42.20 # for nothing 13.42.25 # :) 13.42.38 # Bger: care to look at the brightness bugfix patch in the tracker? 13.43.01 # petur link ? 13.43.10 # http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/x5sim.png 13.43.16 # neat logo huh? ;-) 13.43.21 # http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1404233&group_id=44306&atid=439120 13.43.28 # 10x 13.43.45 # preglow: Can you try adding "#define CONFIG_ALIGN 1" at the top of libffmpegFLAC/bitstream.h ? 13.44.06 # and retain your patch? 13.44.17 # Yes. The patch is needed anyway I think. 13.44.36 # I don't use the ffmpeg bitstream reader in my metadata parsing code. 13.45.17 # * linuxstb thinks a Rockbox optimised bitstream reader library could be a nice project for someone... 13.45.28 # mattpwest: committed! 13.45.29 # Bger: and while you're at SF, this patch is obsolete: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1379581&group_id=44306&atid=439120 13.45.35 # linuxstb: no dice 13.45.49 Join akaidiot [0] (n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 13.45.55 # and yeah, the file that did work before is now broken 13.46.04 # so something new happened in your patch 13.46.14 Join DangerousDan [0] (n=Miranda@newtpulsifer.campus.luth.se) 13.46.24 # That's odd. My patch should (at worse) just break seeking. 13.46.25 # petur ah, yes :) 13.46.36 # ahh, we'll see 13.46.49 # linuxstb: you know how long retailos takes before it dumps ram to disk? 13.47.32 # No. I think it's the equivalent of the old "deep sleep" - so maybe 36 hours. I'm sure someone in #ipl will know. 13.47.36 # i didnt manage to compile gcc4.2.2 for m68k-elf under cygwin.... andy great hints? 13.47.54 # Paprica 13.48.02 # Paprica: Stop game and go to 'Help' menu, can't resume game again. 13.48.04 # ? 13.48.23 # mattpwest: I got the menu to pop-up fine in the sdl sim 13.48.31 # by holding INS 13.48.33 Nick Rob2222_ is now known as Rob2222 (n=Miranda@ACB29143.ipt.aol.com) 13.48.55 # gcc 4.0.2 i mean 13.49.15 # 36? damn, that's a lot 13.49.25 # a ton of time to keep the ram powered 13.49.42 # My memory is hazy - best to ask someone who knows. 13.49.47 # Jungti1234, for me its ok 13.49.54 # hmm 13.50.13 # Paprica, Did you fix it? 13.50.26 # you have the last version 13.50.30 # ? 13.50.47 # Last version can't use. 13.50.54 Quit petur ("CGI:IRC 0.5.7 (2005/06/19)") 13.50.57 # Don't work. 13.51.12 # oops 13.51.15 # Rob2222: gcc 4 isn't recommended for m68k - it generates slower code than 3.4.x. Is there any reason you want it? 13.51.17 # wait 13.52.19 # Paprica, It has problem. 13.52.27 # ? 13.54.08 # You try directly. 13.54.20 # preglow: Checking the ipl IRC logs, it seems to be 12 hours before the suspend-to-disk mode kicks in. 13.54.23 # linuxstb: only as second envvironment for testin purposes 13.55.03 # i need to compile it again 13.55.17 # start new game, and press 'stop' button, and go to 'help' menu and press 'stop' button again, go to resume game 13.55.22 # i will do it in a few secs 13.55.42 # mins** 13.56.08 # ohhh 13.56.09 # ok isee 13.56.12 # :) 13.56.20 # its reporting something with the multilibs, but not the error in the wiki described. may i post 4 lines here? 13.56.37 # Paprica, Can't it save game? 13.56.58 # not yet 13.57.09 # i dont have a time to do it now 13.57.15 # in the week end 13.57.16 # B4gder: :-) cool, thanks 13.57.20 # I found in Rockbox that continuation button operates strangely. 13.57.28 # ah, now i read, istn recommended for 48k 13.57.38 # 68k 13.57.49 # If press '>> l' button, do function of 'Stop' button. 13.57.54 # ok, for arm its working 13.58.44 # Yes, the current recommendations seem to be 3.4.5 for m68k, and 4.0.2 for arm. 13.58.47 # >>l and - too 13.58.56 # ok 14.01.44 # linuxstb: can you explain how the remapping of SDRAM address to 0 works? I was looking at the code in crt0.S but can't figure it out 14.02.03 # It's magic. 14.02.17 # does the usb bootloader actually work on the h300? i plugged my usb cable in, it turns on and loads to usb bootloader mode but my linux doesnt get any messages about usb devices being found or anything 14.02.39 # markun: I don't think even the IPL people know how it works, and that's where preglow stole it from. 14.02.45 # steveb linus said something like "it sometimes work, sometimes doesn't" 14.03.00 Quit Zagor (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.03.01 # oh right 14.03.03 # fair enough 14.03.17 # there are some major power issues in the H300 optomized build that arent in the official builds 14.03.26 # hm.. because I was wondering how I should do that on the gigabeat. 14.03.26 # That's know. 14.03.33 # I mean that's known 14.03.39 # Membrillo: like what? 14.04.03 # I think the optimized build contains a broken version of lostlogic's patch - he's asked for it to be removed, but I don't know if it has. 14.04.09 # Membrillo: http://cafefiles.naver.net/data16/2006/1/19/161/PICT6530.jpg 14.04.17 # if your player drops down to around 3.8v, you cant load rockbox and even getting stability in the original firmware is hard 14.04.23 # it hasnt 14.04.43 # Then don't use it - use an official build. 14.04.50 # am doing now 14.04.53 # just warning people 14.05.19 # its quite tricky to fix if you get stuck in the situation where your power is below 3.8v 14.05.33 # steveb, Bger: This H300 bootloader USB mode problem is strange - it allways works here 14.05.40 # *always 14.05.44 # so either keep above 4v or use an official build for now 14.08.42 # amiconn: works for me too. Its been found that its to do with usb charging being turned on or off in the iRiver FW 14.09.06 # Membrillo: my voltage is at 3.6 apprently and i use the H300 optimised... seems to work fine 14.09.17 # what build do you have? 14.09.22 # latest? 14.09.35 Quit mirak (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.09.43 # i wouldnt go much lower if you want to avoid possible problems 14.09.59 # Membrillo: Really? Didn't try that yet 14.10.08 Join Mongey [0] (n=mongeyc@213-94-255-251.b-ras1.dbn.dublin.eircom.net) 14.10.38 # it would make sense, and ive read about it on MR 14.11.15 Quit Paul_The_Nerd (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.11.20 # i guess the iRiver FW sets USB to charge and the bootloader USB mode just follows that 14.11.58 # It would be strange though. Iiuc the rockbox bootloader takes over directly at boot 14.12.17 # B4gder: what else can i work on for the x5 port 14.12.29 # hmmm maybe my battery is just stuffing up 14.12.40 # its at full charge and randomly turning off sometimes 14.13.43 # does anyone wanna help me with a school project, _ to make a stp/go sign with a time delay so that it stays on stop on a few seconds then turns around to go 14.13.47 # now my iriver kind of, isnt turning on at all 14.14.05 # mongey i could make that on Visual basic easy 14.14.33 # so i just swaps the images after a set amount of time? 14.14.55 # well kinda 14.15.00 # but not images 14.15.07 # like i have to make it 14.15.09 # not images? 14.15.12 # oh ok 14.15.17 # with lines and text etc? 14.15.18 # markun: i've got some info on how it works 14.15.23 # markun: haven't looked at it in a while 14.15.40 # Mongey: were you asked to make in on Visual Basic or C or what? 14.15.41 # who the hell is compiling these "optimized" builds anyway? 14.15.49 # needleboy is 14.16.51 # preglow: is the info available online? 14.16.56 # markun: no 14.17.05 # if my iriver is randomly turning off all the time, would you say its a battery or harddrive problem? 14.17.17 # i think i've got it in my notes somewhere 14.17.26 # randomly turning off and occasionally not turning on 14.17.53 Join kernel_sensei [0] (n=boris@lns-bzn-47f-81-56-253-161.adsl.proxad.net) 14.18.24 Quit kernelsensei (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.18.31 Nick kernel_sensei is now known as kernelsensei (n=boris@lns-bzn-47f-81-56-253-161.adsl.proxad.net) 14.18.32 # markun: why're you wondering anyway? it wont work on gigabeat 14.18.35 # anyone? 14.19.04 # Membrillo; like this http://www.halifax.ca/traffic/images/ra1.gif <<< as in build a sign out of steel and i need a circuit 14.19.38 # preglow: I thought maybe it could be done in a similar way on the gigabeat 14.19.54 # like as in limit switches... ect. But im not sure 14.19.54 # Mongey: oh you have to physically make it haha. i thought you meant a program :P 14.20.04 # lol 14.20.17 # markun: yeah, but i doubt this'll help you much, it's a completely pp specific thing 14.20.20 # anyone know? 14.20.24 # i can paste you the info on the reg layout if you want, thouigh 14.20.27 # though 14.20.38 # nah, it's ok 14.20.58 # i don't think very many arm4 cores support memory remapping 14.20.59 # I'll just search some more in the documentation I have here 14.21.16 # isn't ram mapped at 0x0 for gigabeat? 14.21.31 # no, flash memory is 14.21.34 # ouch 14.21.49 # where do exception vectors point by default? 14.22.05 # lostlogic are you here now? 14.23.02 # oh well. im pretty sure my battery is McBuggered 14.23.14 # Membrillo; are you the person who made the auto download thing? 14.23.21 # in the original firmware the exception vectors are at the start of the flash rom, but some other are later copied to the start of SDRAM, so I should also be able to find how they do the translation 14.23.25 # Mongey:yep 14.23.40 # Mongey: tis me 14.23.58 # Membrillo; love that program.. but it crashed on me alot 14.24.05 # it does? 14.24.06 # how so? 14.24.12 # well it did 14.24.22 # it doesnt now? 14.24.25 # just froze up on 96% 14.24.32 # not anymore 14.24.34 # oh, how strange 14.24.48 # ohhhh thats probably because it was unzipping 14.24.56 # it used to freeze momentarily when unzipping 14.25.03 # i fixed that though 14.25.04 # well i got the newer one 2day and everything is ok 14.25.16 # good to hear :) 14.26.05 Join Skydemon [0] (n=udo@p508760AD.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.26.36 # markun: Iiuc the RAM is remapped to 0x0 b/c ARM7 doesn't have a vector base register, so the vector table is always at 0x0. Is it the same with ARM9 ? 14.26.46 # anyone have experience with electronical circuits? 14.27.04 # also anyone know where i can learn C? 14.27.04 # Membrillo 14.27.08 # amiconn: I thought so, but let me check 14.27.11 # yep 14.27.13 # amiconn: no arms have vector base registers 14.27.14 # afaik 14.27.29 # Membrillo: There seems to be another bug. 14.27.36 # mongey, study the rockbox source. Start in the plugins 14.27.41 # another? 14.27.49 # what is it 14.28.09 # Membok 14.28.13 # lol 14.28.19 # sh.t 14.28.28 # that was suppoded to be Membrillo; ok 14.28.38 # lol ok 14.28.39 # wtf iriver are giving the firmware in an exe file 14.28.52 # Mongey: www.iso-9899.info has various links and recommendations about books that'll help in the C department 14.29.00 # Bger: yeah i dont understand that either. the self extractor thing? 14.29.05 # yep 14.29.13 # Membrillo: I canceled check of 'Save Sattings on Exit and Load Settings on Open'. But, it loads saved continuously setting. 14.29.27 # -> But, it loads saved setting continuously. 14.29.31 # really? doesnt with me 14.30.02 # Mongey: if you cancel save settings on my updater, does it work? 14.30.20 # Jungti1234: im not sure what problem your having. it works fine for me 14.30.25 # hm 14.30.43 # wtf zip -> exe -> hex .... 14.30.48 # um!! 14.31.04 # how much are Newertech batteries going for these days in AUD? 14.31.24 # Membrillo: Wasn't bug that I spoke at new version fixed? 14.31.24 Quit uwe_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.31.50 # the date bug was fixed 14.31.53 # no 14.31.55 # amiconn: The 920 can be set to have the vector starts at either 0x0000 0000 or 0xFFFF 0000 14.32.16 # Membrillo: Bug that unzip doesn't become 14.32.42 # -> Bug that doesn't auto unzip. 14.32.54 # unzip works for me, but i think i worked out what might be causing you problems and i fixed it 14.33.01 Nick Mongey is now known as Mongey|away (n=mongeyc@213-94-255-251.b-ras1.dbn.dublin.eircom.net) 14.33.14 # tomorrow or the day after i will release 5.2 14.33.20 # hm 14.33.27 # and it will fix that 14.33.48 # markun: how, by some outside pin? 14.33.55 # yes 14.34.05 # i'd guess that's hardwired on the board 14.34.24 # Membrillo: I talked 2 bug to you. 14.34.24 # can the remapping be done by the mmu? 14.34.31 # do you have an mmu? 14.34.36 # if so, then yes, you probably can 14.34.49 # --------------------------- 14.34.49 # Missing Location 14.34.49 # --------------------------- 14.34.49 DBUG Enqueued KICK Jungti1234 14.34.49 # Please Choose Unzip Destination 14.34.49 # --------------------------- 14.34.50 *** Alert Mode level 1 14.34.50 # È®ÀÎ 14.34.52 # --------------------------- 14.34.54 # oops sorry 14.35.03 # Jungti1234: ahhh yes i fixed that one 14.35.17 # that one is fixed 14.35.31 # But, the problem of me happens. 14.36.02 # yes, it has a mmu 14.36.17 # rob2222: my battery is an original battery 14.36.40 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 14.37.00 # damn i need help on this project 14.37.00 # hi 14.37.19 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.37.30 # seeing my battery wont turn on for more than 5 seconds with an official build, i have concluded that lostlogics patch has killed my battery :'( 14.37.38 # anyone know how i can delay something or even what component to use 14.38.32 # Membrillo; i thought he siad not to use it on MR......... (stress i think) 14.38.39 # Well, it's official, I can't get linux to work beside rockbox on the Nano. It's *probably* just me sucking though. I can get it to the "Loading Linux" step, but I suspect I didn't set up the files on the ext2 partition properly. 14.39.09 # Paul_The_Nerd: Which kernel are you using? 14.39.14 # haha original iriver fw has malloc ... 14.39.35 # You should at least get the kernel console messages displayed before it tells you there is a problem with the root filesystem. 14.39.41 # Nope 14.39.43 # So it sounds like the kernel itself is wrong. 14.39.59 # Does your kernel have a date? 14.40.07 # One second 14.40.12 # I renamed the .bin, and can't remember now 14.40.34 # It's a nightly build from about 24 hours ago 14.40.40 # i didnt know the original h300 firmware played OGG :O 14.40.40 # The h300 owns 14.40.57 # fascinating 14.40.58 # lol 14.41.11 # i should be rid of that script 14.41.13 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-129-202.pools.arcor-ip.net) 14.41.26 # something bad is going down 14.41.32 # Paprica 14.41.33 # ?? 14.41.33 # i think my harddrive may be dead 14.41.38 # linuxstb: 2006-01-17-podzilla.gz 14.41.39 # not my battery 14.41.47 # o.0 14.41.49 # That's not the kernel... 14.41.52 # u sure? 14.41.56 # Oops 14.41.59 # Bger: how do you know? 14.42.01 # Sorry, pasted the wrong thing 14.42.16 # well the iriver fw just froze for a while 14.42.19 # not a good sign 14.42.32 # then it turned off 14.42.39 # maybe my hd and my battery are bad 14.42.52 # can u RMA it? 14.43.02 # ive inskinned it, but i guess so 14.43.07 # Linuxstb: Ah, it does look like I forgot to get a new build of the kernel. 14.43.19 # i can always take the inskin out and hope 14.43.27 # Mine was dated 11/22 14.43.31 # but how long have u had it? 14.43.40 # actually ive probably had it over a year 14.43.42 # im not sure 14.43.59 # probably just over a year now 14.44.00 # where do u live? uS? 14.44.05 # Australia 14.44.22 # :| 14.44.51 *** Alert Mode OFF 14.44.52 # Paul_The_Nerd: I would have expected the 11/22 kernel to support the Nano. But try a newer one. 14.44.53 # so its out of warranty 14.45.15 # probably 14.45.22 Quit DJDD__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.45.25 # looks like im buying a new battery and hoping that fixes it 14.45.33 # linuxstb: Just tried a new one 14.45.50 # I get some output, then it stops with "init: /bin/inted respawning too fast" 14.46.00 # That's fine then. 14.46.12 # Membrillo: you are booting with the charger connected? 14.46.15 # It means the kernel is running, but there is a problem with your ext2 filesystem. 14.46.43 # linuxstb: Okay. 14.46.45 # You may need to edit your /etc/rc file (on your ipl ext3 partition) to do something - e.g. run /bin/podzilla 14.46.52 Part Mongey|away 14.47.16 Quit B4gder ("time to say moo") 14.47.28 # And make sure you copy a recent podzilla to that location as well - running chmod +x on it to make it executable. 14.48.09 Join DJDD__ [0] (n=DJDD@220-245-186-182.static.tpgi.com.au) 14.50.53 # Argh, I really need to get my networking working properly under linux. 14.51.00 # ok im going to open my h300 and see if the HD is loose 14.54.25 # I'll be back, again 14.54.26 Part Paul_The_Nerd 14.56.19 Quit mattpwest (""heading home"") 14.58.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.59.26 # hmmm 14.59.31 # something must of been loose 14.59.46 # opened her up, gave the harddrive a bit of a nudge 14.59.50 # it seems to be ok now 15.00.27 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 15.00.27 # * Bger flashes bootloader v5 15.00.27 # kinda strange 15.00.57 # Bger: how do you know iriver fw uses malloc? 15.01.11 # preglow strings :) 15.01.15 # heh 15.01.25 # of course, i'm not sure :) 15.02.23 # when i disable -mlong-calls and tag ICODE_ATTR functions as attribute long_call, i get conflicting types errors 15.02.26 # why would i do that? 15.02.31 # mallcheck: fatal error: malloc list is corrupted 15.02.43 # free: warning: multiple free() with same pointer 15.02.48 # free: warning: not a valid pointer 15.02.54 # Bger: looks indicative... 15.03.27 # unsigned char table[] = { 15.03.28 # 0x%02x, 15.03.32 # q }; 15.03.58 # So what's wrong with malloc? :) 15.04.01 # this remembers me the firmware of .. (i don't remember the name, mpeye or sthing simillar) 15.04.04 Quit akaidiot (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.04.49 # this is annoying 15.05.26 # do we need to handle a long_call attribute any different than other attributes? 15.05.53 # I think the actual function needs that attribute, not just the prototype. 15.06.10 # IIRC 15.06.17 # ghargh 15.06.22 # well, that surely wont complicate things 15.07.06 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 15.07.20 # most calls use three instructions now 15.07.22 # not optimal 15.07.59 # re paul nerd 15.08.29 # "init: exec rc failed" is actually the first error message. =/ 15.08.33 # finally a rb version from 2006... :) 15.08.43 # But, I really just wanted to make sure the linux kernel loaded, so that's all well and good. 15.09.05 # sectioned compilation might also be forcing long calls on practially everything 15.09.09 # why are we using sectioned compilation? 15.09.35 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@88.134.20.76) 15.10.48 # To force long calls. 15.10.53 # ....... 15.10.58 # That's the only way I could get them to work at all. 15.11.10 # Membrillo: I know how LLs patch works, but i cant explain how he would kill the battery, thats what im thinking about. 15.12.00 # we're probably wasting tens of kilobytes on long calls, then 15.12.11 Quit DJDD__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.12.19 # Membrillo: back to having problems even with higher battery voltage? :( 15.12.28 # Is the X5 sim suppose to compile with the recent CVS changes? 15.12.45 # lostlogic: yeah 15.12.50 # my players just being whack 15.12.51 Join uwe_ [0] (n=uwe@dslb-084-056-048-042.pools.arcor-ip.net) 15.13.22 # although, i have it open now, i took out the battery and nudged the harddrive and put the battery back and its working fine 15.13.24 # strange 15.13.47 # preglow: I know it's a very bad thing, but that's the only way I could make Rockbox compile at all. Hopefully gcc4 will be more co-operative. 15.14.00 # yo 15.14.06 # linuxstb: i'm using gcc4 15.14.24 # and it's just as quarelsome 15.14.26 # I dont think that the patch is the cause for the problem. 15.14.48 # the patch is programing the PCF50606 charger 15.14.57 # man, i look forward to 64 meg ipod video support, where we'll have yet another case where we need long calls 15.14.57 # and the battery will be charged by teh LX2201 15.15.15 # linuxstb: Did anything ever happen of http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/usb.diff ? 15.15.22 # Rob2222: The reason I thought it might be possible is that the VBAT on the PCF50606 is connected to the battery as well 15.15.36 Join NightCat [0] (n=pink__ki@garant.metacom.ru) 15.15.44 # Hi All! 15.15.55 # Is someone here? 15.15.58 # has anyone else seen problems with playlist not advancing on recent builds? 15.16.03 # NightCat: lots of people, g'morning 15.16.47 # How can I build only my plugin in devkit? 15.17.02 # lostlogic: i have tons of playlist related problems 15.17.05 # Instead of use make for all RB... 15.17.07 # Paul_The_Nerd: Have you tested it? It doesn't work for me - the usb initialisation causes the retailos to fail to start. 15.17.07 # where it just behaves weirdly 15.17.12 # like playing the same dir several times 15.17.19 # preglow: like not being shuffled with it should be? 15.17.28 # there is something rattling inside my iriver.... 15.17.33 # i cant see anything moving though 15.17.42 # linuxstb: I'll test it now. 15.17.47 # and skipping songs from time to time 15.18.16 # I have not seen any playlist bugs... 15.18.25 # Paul_The_Nerd: You could also try the same code, but without the call to usb_init(). I wouldn't expect that to correctly detect usb though. 15.19.01 # Ideas about my question? 15.19.20 # How to build only my plugin not all RB? 15.19.31 # (Wich commands?) 15.19.40 # preglow: any idea what recent change might have caused such weirdness? 15.19.40 # why? 15.19.45 # lostlogic: none 15.19.48 # NightCat: just type make 15.20.06 # NightCat: after a full build has been done, only the parts that change will be compiled 15.20.26 # mm when i add somthing to the settings 15.20.28 # preglow: Yes but it checks all 15.20.29 # /* # of bits, offset+size, default, .cfg name, .cfg values */ 15.20.33 # NightCat: correct 15.20.44 # Ok. 15.20.49 # if that checking actually takes time, you are on a 486 15.20.53 # how i know what is the nuber of th e bits? 15.21.05 # how can i 15.21.07 # ** 15.21.09 # Nop :) P4 1.8... 15.21.33 # Linuxstb: Mine showed the version number, then went straight into RetailOS 15.21.47 # So it's working then? 15.21.47 # Strange, but it builds credits.c file all the time... 15.21.54 # The funny thing is, only sorta 15.22.11 # In RetailOS, it's charging off USB, but isn't a drive. 15.22.19 # NightCat: that's a build system error, i think 15.22.25 # Widnows, at least, sees it as an unknown device. 15.22.45 # preglow: make clean will help? 15.22.49 # Paul_The_Nerd: In which case, the usb_init() is obviously breaking something. You could try and see what happens if you remove that. 15.22.53 # preglow: best candidates are my codec return path change, or the new codec loader, but neither would explain all of the weird. 15.22.58 # I shall then 15.23.08 # hmmm 15.23.11 # lostlogic: my problems are far older than that 15.23.16 # my iriver has a strange rattle to it now 15.23.44 # hmm, I wonder if I'm just noticing because I had been using smaller playlists of all the same codec for a while. 15.25.18 Join t0mas [0] (n=Tomas@unaffiliated/t0mas) 15.26.39 Quit Membrillo () 15.26.40 # linuxstb: If I remove the usb_init() it doesn't load retailOS. If I leave it there, USB is just... broken in retailOS it seems. 15.26.58 # At least if retail is entered via the bootloader detecting USB. 15.26.58 # linuxstb: btw, themes work just dandy on nano now 15.27.03 # loads like a lightning as well 15.27.07 # compared to the ages it takes on h1x0 15.28.33 Nick BHSPitLappy2 is now known as BHSPitLappy (i=Steve-O@adsl-64-123-189-140.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 15.35.48 # Paprica 15.36.54 # lostlogic np for the red builds ... i know what's the feeling of your eyes closing themselves :P 15.36.58 # Paprica: Didn't compile end yet? Didn't compile end yet? 15.37.59 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=jborn@adsl-68-74-150-203.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) 15.40.15 Join jborn_ [0] (n=jborn@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 15.40.44 Quit mikearthur (Remote closed the connection) 15.41.27 Quit Jungti1234 () 15.42.38 # Bger: I'm making some corrections to the corrections for a few targets now that I'm awake :) 15.43.13 # k ;) 15.45.01 # preglow: Good news about the themes. I'll have to try them again on my ipod. 15.46.22 # Yeah, themes load over here as well, as would kinda be expected i suppose. 15.47.58 # Paul_The_Nerd: Thanks for confirming my usb attempt doesn't work. 15.48.35 # It really _really_ wanted to work though 15.49.04 # My second idea is for Rockbox to write a "go straight to retailos" string somewhere in IRAM before rebooting, and then for the bootloader to check for that string, and go to retailos if it is present. 15.49.24 # I tried that last night, and it works. 15.49.30 # I like that one! 15.49.31 # :-P 15.49.36 # other than reading the code and doing your best, do most of you have build environments for all targets to check before commits? 15.50.11 # Yes - if I'm doing a risky commit, then I'll compile for at least one type of each target first. 15.50.55 # oh, i kind of forgot i've got the UIE thing here 15.51.10 # it only deals with exceptions yet, but it's probably still worth a commit? 15.54.00 # lostlogic: But I think the golden rule is to not commit and run :) IMO, it doesn't matter if we get red builds, as long as someone who knows that change is around to fix them. 15.54.04 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 15.54.27 # yeah 15.54.48 # if you're commiting code that touches several platforms, it's always best to wait until you have time to check the build status 15.54.58 # linuxstb: yeah, I didn't mean to last night, but it was way past my bedtime and I made two commits in sequence where the latter one was the big one, and couldn't wait 1.5hr longer for them to all build, won't happen again. 15.55.29 # it probably will, but you can pretend it wont :) 15.55.33 # haha yep! 15.55.37 # most people have to get burnt at least two times 15.56.00 Quit Kohlrabi ("Fast alle Menschen sind Regenwürmer") 15.57.07 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.58.16 Quit JoeBorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.59.51 # Wich element in char array is used as nonstring? 16.00.02 # I mean when we do this: 16.00.09 # char a[5]; 16.00.19 # Wich elements puts to a? 16.00.27 # it has 5 elements, starting from 0 16.00.29 # to 4 16.00.32 # (The last one is \0 ?) 16.00.38 # yes 16.00.43 # And other? 16.00.53 # so in a char a[5] you can put 4 chars + \0 16.01.01 # starting from the first (0) elem 16.01.13 # Oh, ok... 16.01.30 # I'm working on some string functions :) 16.01.31 # welcome to the c's string heaviness 16.01.53 # I've made substr() :) 16.01.55 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@labb.contactor.se) 16.02.00 # ah :) 16.02.02 # there is such 16.02.09 # or no... in rockbox 16.02.20 # it should be named strstr 16.02.27 # No I'm making substr() and I've made strpos :) 16.03.06 # Bger: It's hard to understand RB functions for me so I'm doing it myself :) 16.03.18 # Second attempt at USB->RetailOS for Nano: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/usb2.diff - apply this patch to a clean CVS copy 16.03.39 # NightCat better ask than reinvent the wheel ... 16.03.42 Join Matze [0] (i=Miranda@p5484EF27.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.04.03 # Bger: There is no strstr()... 16.04.22 # I'll let you know how it goes, then. 16.05.32 # * preglow remembers it's possible to extract exception number for cpsr... 16.05.38 # from 16.05.46 # NightCat but if you make such fun, name it char *strstr(const char *haystack, const char *needle); 16.06.18 # Bger: ? 16.06.31 # haha 16.07.11 # There is: char *(*strcasestr) (const char* phaystack, const char* pneedle); 16.08.44 Join NightCat2 [0] (n=pink__ki@garant.metacom.ru) 16.08.45 Quit NightCat (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.08.56 # Linuxstb: Should I need to rebuild rockbox for ipod too, or just the bootloader? 16.08.58 Nick NightCat2 is now known as NightCat (n=pink__ki@garant.metacom.ru) 16.09.13 # I'm back :) 16.11.14 # NightCat w8 16.11.43 # Bger: What is w8? 16.11.46 # wait 16.12.38 # NightCat i suppose this makes a case-sensitive substr seach 16.12.58 # ah, the reverse 16.13.14 # it ignores the case 16.13.29 # How it works? 16.13.37 # I can't understand... 16.13.44 # char *strcasestr(const char *haystack, const char *needle); 16.13.53 # but in the rockbox's source .. w8 16.13.58 # My function looks like this: int strpos(char *src, char *needle, int offset) 16.14.25 # Linuxstb: Okay, now when you plug in the USB cable inside of rockbox, it reboots to retail, and then USB connects properly 16.14.29 # And it returns INT!!! 16.14.30 # firmware/common/strcasestr.c: char* strcasestr (const char* phaystack, const char* pneedle) 16.14.34 # preglow: Afaik, function attributes can be set for the prototypes *only* 16.15.09 # Bger: I can't understand why that function returns char? 16.15.10 # NightCat it returns a pointer to the found substring "pneedle" 16.15.30 # This is how all ICODE_ATTRs are set anyway, so I don't see a reason why it shouldn't work for long calls 16.15.40 # But I need a position, not pointer... 16.15.49 # amiconn: it doesn't 16.15.58 # Then something in gcc is broken 16.16.09 # amiconn: it starts complaining about conflicts in definitions 16.16.11 # arm seems like a strange platform to me... 16.16.22 # NightCat if you call it like char *pos,str[]={"blahadg"}; pos=strcasestr(str,"ha"); 16.16.26 # preglow: How do you set the attribute? 16.16.28 # it's not that strange 16.16.42 # amiconn: i just concat it onto ICODE_ATTR with __attribute ((long-call) 16.16.46 # long_call), that is 16.17.14 # That won't work 16.17.16 # Bger: Then what? 16.17.17 # why not? 16.17.18 # NightCat then the pos will point to "hagd" 16.17.34 # If you give multiple attributes, you must use a single __attributed__ 16.17.42 # Bger: Really? :) 16.17.42 # and if you want the string pos, you just do a (pos-str) 16.17.47 # __attribute__ 16.17.50 # then how come IDATA_ATTR LINE_ATTR has worked for so many? 16.17.57 # Huh? 16.18.09 # Hmm.................................................. 16.18.17 # Bger: Yes... Pointers is not my specification... 16.18.18 # amiconn: so __attribute__ ((attr1, attr2)), or? 16.18.34 # amiconn: that's an awful lot of dots you've got there 16.18.38 # wait 16.18.42 # will 16.18.45 # Paul_The_Nerd: So you would be happy if I committed usb2.diff ? 16.18.53 # linuxstb: Absolutely. 16.18.53 # NightCat in C an array name is simply a pointer to the first element (but constant pointer, i.e. you can't make str=" in our example 16.19.19 # boot retailos instead of disk mode? 16.19.22 # wont that just be really, really slow? 16.19.28 # It takes several *minutes* to copy over a clean .rockbox folder in "Disk Mode" and less than 10 seconds in Retail OS. 16.19.35 # Bger: And what if I want to have "bla"? 16.19.37 # i very seldom need a complete folder 16.19.40 # usually just one file 16.19.48 # NightCat ? explain 16.19.57 # Yeah 16.19.58 # but anyway, i can remove it if it's too slow 16.20.01 # so just go ahead 16.20.09 # Bger: In our example. 16.20.37 Join Chamois [0] (n=Florian@bro67-3-82-231-134-112.fbx.proxad.net) 16.20.40 # hello 16.20.42 # Bger: "ewfewr!efer" I need only "ewfewr" 16.20.47 # i have a little question 16.20.48 # It doesn't take very much longer at all to get into retail OS, and that'll more than make up for it if, say the intent is to copy a folder of music. 16.20.57 # Or anything else that's multiple files, for that matter. 16.21.06 # Chamois: Just ask 16.21.34 # is it normal that the h300 patched firmware do 4 meg ? 16.21.48 # before patching it was 2.5 mb 16.22.16 # Yes 16.22.19 # It is 16.22.37 # sure ? :-) 16.22.43 # Yes 16.22.51 # ok 16.22.53 # I have about 3,98 ... 16.22.58 # so i will patch 16.23.00 # Or something... 16.23.19 # If you want to check, check a checksum. 16.23.27 # yes i will do 16.23.32 # Not the size of a file. 16.24.02 Join Mongey|away [0] (n=mongeyc@213-94-255-251.b-ras1.dbn.dublin.eircom.net) 16.24.13 Quit Mongey|away (Client Quit) 16.25.17 # Bger: How do you think will it be that my function will work slower then RB? 16.27.48 # Anybody here? 16.27.56 # w8 16.28.17 # Bger: What it means "w8"? 16.28.21 # NightCat if you search for a string 16.28.38 # w8 = wait ... 8 spells like [eith] uf ... 16.28.55 # you know its len 16.29.05 # so if strcasepos returns you something != NULL 16.29.14 # Bger: Oh, ok now I know what is w8 :) 16.29.44 # you know where the the string starts, and you know its length 16.30.36 # preglow: Where did you try these attributes? Perhaps there are several declarations for the same function 16.30.42 # NightCat what do you want to do in fact ? 16.30.53 # if I want to find the string end symbol will it work: if(src[i] == \0) ? 16.31.06 # Or if(src[i] == "\0")? 16.31.11 # Or if(src[i] == '\0')? 16.31.23 # '\0' 16.31.30 # 'c' is char 16.31.43 # "s" is in fact a string ('s'+'\0') 16.31.49 # Bger: In fact I just trying to improve some string functions like in pascal. 16.32.06 # ah :) 16.32.16 # btw, there is sprintf... 16.32.21 # snprintf 16.32.33 # amiconn: where? when i modify ICODE_ATTR i believe they'll be applied for all iram functions 16.32.38 # Bger: Cause it's more understandable for me :) 16.32.42 # amiconn: and yeah, problems appeared in the core already 16.32.54 # amiconn: for a string function, i believe 16.32.56 Join Thus0 [0] (n=Thus0@192.70.92.156) 16.33.01 # amiconn: gimme a sec and i'll paste you the error 16.33.12 # NightCat i tried the same thing some years ago .... 16.33.18 # but gotta go 16.33.28 # Bger: Ok :) 16.33.40 # common/strlen.c:58: error: conflicting types for ?strlen? 16.33.40 # include/string.h:35: error: previous declaration of ?strlen? was here 16.34.11 # Bger: Somewhen I'll forget pascal funtions too, but now... :) 16.34.55 # NightCat search for "working with strings in C" ... 16.35.20 # Bger: I've done this - nothing itresting... 16.35.53 # while on this topic ... now with unicode there are problems with string terminating ... 16.36.15 Join zirra-gone [0] (n=shawn@c-24-125-58-133.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 16.36.16 # howdy folks. 16.36.25 # gotta go ... nite 16.36.35 # Bger: Bye :) 16.36.40 # Bger: Thx 16.37.34 Nick zirra-gone is now known as godzirra (n=shawn@c-24-125-58-133.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 16.38.25 # a few days ago someone recommended an awesome windows based playlist editor that they used as a replacement for the crappy software that came with their iriver... 16.38.34 # anyone know what it was? I keep wanting to say TBD or something? 16.38.58 Join noonex [0] (n=41a2f212@labb.contactor.se) 16.39.11 # tag database tool, I believe? 16.39.24 # Ooh.. that may have been it. Thanks Paul.. I'll go google. 16.39.35 # Though, if you're using Rockbox, you can just create otf playlists... 16.39.51 Quit ender` (" cat /dev/coffee | /dev/cup | /dev/mouth | /dev/nose > /dev/keyboard") 16.40.03 # I hate creating on the fly playlists though... they take too long for me to do because i'm not used to them. 16.40.58 # LinusN? 16.41.14 # Hm? 16.42.31 Quit DrumRBoy320 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.45.41 Join akaidiot [0] (n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 16.47.03 # preglow: Hmm, it seems there are actually two types of attributes 16.48.00 # One type is additive, i.e. if you declare the same function multiple times and one of the declarations has that attribute, it will be in effect, regardless of the other declarations 16.48.27 # One type seems to be exclusive, i.e. if one declaration has it and the other does not, there will be a conflict 16.49.12 # strlen() is declared 2 times, once in string.h (w/o ICODE_ATTR), and once in strlen.c (with ICODE_ATTR) 16.49.15 # strange that the section attribute is not one of them 16.50.51 Join gtkspert [0] (n=gtkspert@203-59-207-7.dyn.iinet.net.au) 16.51.34 # I expect even section attributes to clash if you give two different ones 16.52.09 # Well, the section attribute (by itself) doesn't change the calling convention, while long-call does 16.53.44 # so, any quick fix? 16.54.16 # i expect we need to add ICODE_ATTR to all the header defs as well, then? 16.54.33 Quit Paprica (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.56.41 # lostlogic: I don't understand your latest changes. 16.57.13 # The targets which have no charging at all (i.e. Ondio) surely don't need the wps tag, this is code bloat 16.58.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.58.28 # amiconn: hmm, that code was there on all targets before I started touching things yesterday... it is for the charger connected state, not for the charging state... 16.59.16 # Hmm. Still, there can't be a charger connected when there is no charging 16.59.37 # It seems a little cleanup is due... 16.59.39 # Hmm, I'll double check for the targets that don't HAVE_CHARGING. 17.03.03 Quit Paul_The_Nerd (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.04.33 # if char *src; char t[5]; src = t; sizeof(src) returns a size of pointer, and I want a size of t... What shoud I do? 17.04.47 Join bobwise [0] (n=45dd9772@labb.contactor.se) 17.05.12 # amiconn: yeah, the way the config-*.h files are setup, the charger_inserted function should just not exist if HAVE_CHARGING is not set. Fixing. 17.06.03 # dinner 17.06.31 # lostlogic: There is a possibility to clean up #ifdefs: If you define HAVE_CHARGE_STATE for all platforms which can read state, some #ifdefs will get much clearer 17.06.56 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 17.07.01 # (that is, define HAVE_CHARGE_STATE for recv1, fmrec, recv2 as well) 17.07.10 # amiconn: yeah, I want to do that as well, those 3 condition ifs were killing my brain to be writing them, but didn't have the energy to do the cleanups at the same time. 17.07.12 # Alrighty, got iPodLinux properly working. 17.07.20 # Of course the function to actually read the state is model dependent 17.08.05 # Either do model checks there (discouraged in rockbox), or make HAVE_CHARGE_STATE a multi-value option 17.08.13 Join NicoFR [0] (n=nico404@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 17.08.34 # Like, #define CONFIG_CHARGE_STATE CHARGE_STATE_H300 etc 17.08.58 # preglow, Paul_The_Nerd: Maybe upgrading to a newer version of retailos will fix the "emergency" disk mode. It sounds like a bug to me. But at least we now have methods for doing either. I'll leave it up to you two to decide what Rockbox should do. 17.08.58 # Then you can both check with #ifdef, and check for the exact value where necessary 17.09.00 # People! How to use sizeof() function with pointers? (I know, you are very busy but...) 17.09.16 # linuxstb: I'm at the "newest" version of RetailOS, it just came out a couple days ago 17.09.39 # NightCat: That's not possible. sizeof(pointer) always gives the size of a pointer (4 for 32 bit platforms) 17.10.28 # I know... But how to get size of var wich have this pointer? 17.10.48 # I mean wich this pointer is points to... 17.10.55 # You can't 17.11.07 # ...rrr... 17.11.12 # If it's a string, you can get the actual string length, 17.11.27 # but you can't get the length of an array 17.11.36 # Then how rb->strlen works? 17.11.45 # amiconn: what are the chances that the new codec loader would cause problems only when changing codecs in play mode, but not in skip mode? (either that or my code is causing weirdness at codec-change track boundaries) 17.13.23 # It shouldn't. Itested it in both modes 17.13.55 # (changing between various combinations of mp3, ogg, wv, flac, ac3) 17.14.39 Join radsaq [0] (n=radsaq@overlord.vaitek.com) 17.14.49 Join Mmmm [0] (n=mscarrat@cpc2-hem13-3-1-cust77.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 17.15.43 # * Paul_The_Nerd is not so impressed with iPodLinux. 17.17.08 Join thegeek_ [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 17.18.17 # Well, I suppose it's more with this "podzilla" thing. Heh. 17.23.34 Quit Chamois (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.24.48 Join Mongey|homework [0] (n=mongeyc@213-94-255-251.b-ras1.dbn.dublin.eircom.net) 17.25.35 # can i make a request?for an addition for the h300 port 17.26.02 # an alarm 17.26.25 # Paul_The_Nerd: There is a new "podzilla2" in development. From what I've read about it, it seems very big on eye-candy. 17.26.46 # Heh 17.26.48 # But I haven't tried using it. 17.27.36 # Maybe I'm just used to rockbox or something, but it generally just sorta felt wrong in general. 17.28.17 # But, I can at least confirm that it seems to have no problems working beside rockbox. 17.28.32 # Mongey|homework: I believe that's already on the long list of things to do. 17.29.10 Quit thegeek (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17.29.52 Join ^BeN^ [0] (i=Paprica@TLV62-0-106-155.bb.netvision.net.il) 17.29.56 Nick ^BeN^ is now known as Paprica (i=Paprica@TLV62-0-106-155.bb.netvision.net.il) 17.32.47 # LinusN? 17.32.52 # lol 17.33.07 # ? 17.33.10 # my bad 17.33.25 Join San [0] (n=test@A-106-140.cust.iol.ie) 17.33.32 # San 17.34.23 Quit Skydemon ("bye bye") 17.36.15 # blah 17.36.24 # where is linus =\ 17.36.30 # i want to release my patch 17.36.37 # but i need to ask him somthing 17.36.38 # =\ 17.36.50 # Paprica: what kinf of patch ? 17.36.54 # What's the patch for, out of curiosity? 17.36.56 # *kind 17.37.17 # mmm custom status ba 17.37.18 # r 17.37.23 # not images 17.37.28 # only the postion 17.37.29 # + 17.37.35 # title for all the menus 17.37.44 # and the directorys 17.37.44 # that's cool 17.38.01 # lol 17.38.02 # sorry 17.38.07 # folders* 17.38.22 # oh 17.38.25 # ar you going to post it to the patch tracker ? 17.38.25 # What did you need to know before you put it on the patch tracker, then? 17.38.27 # itd thedsme? 17.38.32 # same* 17.38.46 # NicoFR yep 17.38.55 # yes folder == directory 17.39.01 # Paul_The_Nerd, sec 17.39.33 # /* # of bits, offset+size, default, .cfg name, .cfg values */ 17.39.35 # Paprica: Does your patch handle all the targets? Different targets have differents things available in the status bar. 17.39.39 # i want to know 17.39.51 # what i need to write in the # of bits 17.39.55 Nick jborn_ is now known as JoeBorn (n=jborn@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 17.40.20 # i use it in the simulator with 4 17.40.33 # We have 16 targets... 17.40.34 # but dont know if its correct 17.40.52 # linuxstb: i dont try it =\ 17.41.06 # i try it only on the h3xx target 17.41.23 # You just need to make sure that your code uses the same combinations of #ifdefs that the existing code uses. 17.41.41 # linuxstb: Question: Would it be possible to allow rolo-ing into Linux, as opposed to using the bootloader? 17.42.07 # ok i will try to compile it for the others 17.42.25 # linuxstb, you know the answer for my question? 17.42.29 Nick Lynx_ is now known as Lynx_awy (n=lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 17.42.51 Quit Matze ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 17.43.03 Join Matze [0] (i=Miranda@p5484EF27.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.43.08 # Ive made a patch for the recording function, it combines the digital and analogue gain in a rather cunning way... anyone want to try it? 17.43.36 # Paul_The_Nerd: I think we would have to undo all the hardware initialisations that Rockbox does before attempting to load a Linux. So I don't think it's trivial. 17.44.31 Quit Matze (Client Quit) 17.44.34 # At the very least, we will have to undo the memory remapping to move SDRAM back to the original 0x1000000 location. 17.44.59 # Paprica: No I don't. Try looking at the CVS log to see if anyone has done a similar change in the past to what you want to do. 17.45.17 Quit Mongey|homework (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.45.31 # ok 17.45.36 # linuxstb: Ah, makes sense. 17.46.30 # But at the very least we should try and make rolo load rockbox. 17.47.12 # It doesn't? 17.47.39 # Nope. I haven't worked on it at all, and it will also fail due to the memory remapping. 17.48.05 # Ah, gotcha 17.51.48 Quit linuxstb ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 17.54.42 Join Skydemon [0] (n=udo@p508760AD.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.59.04 Quit Skydemon (Client Quit) 17.59.43 Join Skydemon [0] (n=udo@p508760AD.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.00.12 # http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=8748587561 <= lol. "HD doesnt recognized by computer. format doesnt work. Maybe a low level format can help but i dont know that cause i am not a expert" 18.01.08 # "somone sait to me, thats no problem for a tinkerer to get thad disk running again" 18.01.13 # funny text 18.02.07 # not really 18.02.14 # quite honestly 18.03.09 # i found it funny :) 18.03.15 # then sorry 4 spamming 18.04.21 # ;) 18.05.05 # is anyone else having problems with codec failure when playing across a codec change, or is this just me? 18.06.54 # Y'know, now that you mention it, I haven't just sat and listened to music through a rockbox running dap in several days... heh. 18.08.01 Join aegray [0] (n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com) 18.08.05 # where are your ICODE_ATTR and ICONST_ATTR defined? 18.09.27 # I was wondering if anyone knows if it is difficult or impossible to change the usb controller in a jukebox 20? 18.11.00 # i dont know 18.11.23 # MULTILIBS=`/home/Rob/build/gcc/gcc/xgcc -B/home/Rob/build/gcc/gcc/ -B/home/Rob/m68k4/m68k-elf/bin/ -B/home/Rob 18.11.24 # -print-multi-lib` \ 18.11.24 # make[1]: *** [libgcc.mk] Error 127 18.11.24 DBUG Enqueued KICK Rob2222 18.11.24 # make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/Rob/build/gcc/gcc' 18.11.24 # make: *** [all-gcc] Error 2 18.12.10 # i didnt manage it to compile gcc402. tried both patches of the wiki 18.13.52 # I want to try to make it a usb host instead of slave, but I would probably have to repogram the firmware too. 18.15.26 # does it even have host capabilities? 18.16.21 Join DT291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-149-149-95.bna.bellsouth.net) 18.16.21 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.16.30 # hmz... 18.16.44 # noonex: Have a USB host controller thats at least a little "pin compatible"? 18.19.17 Nick DT291 is now known as DreamTactix291 (n=DreamTac@adsl-149-149-95.bna.bellsouth.net) 18.20.55 Quit akaidiot ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 18.24.55 Join Drumr|Defeated [0] (n=Drumrboy@ool-44c2019c.dyn.optonline.net) 18.26.36 # anyone running the latest bleeding edge out there with a couple different codecs of music on their player? 18.28.08 # Gimme a sec Lostlogic, and I'll test 18.30.10 # Which DAP are you on, by the way? 18.30.25 # Paul_The_Nerd: thanks -- just get to a point where next track is a different codec than current track, seek to a few secs from the end, and then see what happens when it should start the next track 18.30.30 # h340 18.30.46 # Ok 18.30.55 # preglow? are you around? 18.31.18 # (or amiconn?) 18.32.29 # blah 18.32.42 # the menu doesnt open in the ipod simulation 18.33.27 # Lostlogic: Does it matter which two codecs it's switching between? 18.33.49 # t0mas: am now 18.33.57 # Paul_The_Nerd: the problem I'm having is vorbis->mp3 and mp3->vorbis but I don't think it matters 18.33.58 # ok, have some time for a question? 18.34.13 # I have some weird results from optimizing a simple math function 18.34.23 # lostlogic: Yeah, it just happend mp3->flac 18.34.24 Quit Mmmm () 18.34.35 # get codec failure, right? 18.34.41 # Yep 18.34.49 # Then it skips the next song, and plays the song after 18.34.51 # preglow: it's here: http://pastebin.com/513264 18.34.53 # Which is also a flac, and it works. 18.35.14 # yeah, it's just when playing across boundaries, but not when skipping across boundaries :-\ thanks. 18.36.18 # Ugh, the playlist browser is *really* unresponsive too... I don't remember that. 18.36.19 # t0mas: this is x86.... 18.38.01 # aegray: don't see if anyone answered you, iram defs are in firmware/export/config.h 18.38.23 # preglow: i was looking more for the link script but got it :) 18.38.31 # does rockbox dynamically load executables? 18.38.38 # yeah 18.38.47 # k 18.38.49 # plugins and codecs are loaded dynamically 18.39.00 # how does it handle copying to iram? 18.39.07 # the plugin itself has to do it 18.39.10 # ah 18.39.15 # since our plugins are just plain binary flat files 18.39.20 # no relocation or sectioning or anything 18.42.36 # amiconn: I think your more consistent error checking patch is the cause of the current problems that I'm seeing with codecs not changing over. 18.42.37 # How to convert CHAR to INT ? ('1' > 1) 18.42.57 # '1' - '0' 18.43.13 # What you mean? 18.43.35 # char has some value - '1' might be 49 18.43.39 # '0' might be 48 18.43.50 # use a loop to go through and change things like that 18.43.57 # with one digit, '1' - '0' = 1 18.44.00 # (with casting) 18.44.06 # :) 18.44.11 # Heh. 18.44.35 # I always trying to find some functions... 18.45.01 # check online - i'm sure theres a ton for implementations of printf 18.46.46 # arghhh 18.46.52 # hmm? 18.47.00 # i _still_ get skips when playback changes directory 18.47.16 # '1' - '0' works 18.47.22 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 18.47.22 # * preglow summons Slasheri 18.49.12 # preglow: Hmm, yes that's possible because playback engine can't prebuffer the next song in next directory.. 18.50.03 # Slasheri: well, it shouldn't start playing it if it can't do so without a skip 18.50.07 # and that's because playlist_peek will not advance to the next directory unless playlist_next is called first 18.50.24 # and we can't call playlist_next before song has been changed 18.50.37 # hmm 18.50.45 # i really don't see why that's relevant, btw, if the track has already started playing, all the playlist stuff has been dealt with 18.51.10 # oh.. so the playback skips once the new track has just started playing? 18.51.17 # yep 18.51.26 # the good old problem 18.51.26 # ah, then it's a bug.. 18.51.29 # which just wont go away 18.51.53 # i think we need to make some prebuffering checks before starting the playback 18.52.03 # probably, yes 18.52.11 Join actionshrimp [0] (i=dave@dhcp-163-1-214-233.seh.ox.ac.uk) 18.52.32 # i will try if i can find any songs to reproduce the issue and then fix it.. 18.53.19 # well 18.53.23 # this was mp3 18.53.47 # everything goes fine, it buffers the next directory, starts playback, skips, and continues playback 18.53.51 Quit aegray ("leaving") 18.53.58 # no manual skip, btw, it changed directory because it was at the end of a track 18.54.02 # ehh, directory 18.54.05 # hmm.. what bitrate the file is? 18.54.07 Join akaidiot [0] (n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 18.54.12 # 192kbis 18.54.16 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 18.54.38 # ok.. it might be possible your disk is slower than mine, so it will produce the problem more easily 18.55.47 # ahh, yes, there's always that 18.55.55 # what about the antiskip setting, does that work on iriver currently? 18.56.14 # ipod or iriver? 18.56.34 # yep it works, but it has no use when directory changes because buffer will always run empty.. 18.56.44 # Slasheri: ona and two plattern disk have different speeds 18.57.03 # why would a directory change cause the buffer to run empty? The player could still tell what to buffer next and fill from the next dir ahead? 18.57.10 # H320 compared with H340 in disk speed f.e. 18.57.19 # lostlogic: no it couldn't 18.57.29 # it could, but it doesn't 18.57.37 # because of rockbox' internal structure 18.57.39 # playlists, etc 18.57.48 # lostlogic: playlist_peek(next_song) returns null until we call playlist_next to advance next directory 18.57.57 # that is a problem with the playlist engine.. 18.58.10 # I see -- so the problem is only in the auto-dir advance feature. 18.58.14 # a seperate file mode would be lovely 18.58.16 # i never use playlists 18.58.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.58.26 # so we can't prebuffer the songs in the next directory until last song in the current directory has finished 18.58.34 # yep 18.58.36 Quit Drumr|Defeated (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.02.36 # preglow: good, i was able to reproduce that. But it sounds something other than buffering problem, weird 19.03.02 # yes, i don't think it's a buffering problem 19.03.15 # seems like you should buffer some more audio in the pcmbuf before starting playback 19.03.43 # it sounds like the playback is started twice at the beginning of the same file 19.03.51 # hmm 19.03.53 # weird 19.07.01 # yep, that is the problem at least.. just verified :) 19.07.27 Join Bluechip [0] (n=BlueChip@cpc2-colc1-3-0-cust143.colc.cable.ntl.com) 19.09.29 # hey 19.11.12 Quit Thus0 ("Leaving") 19.11.45 Join SteL [0] (n=stel@slawson.plus.com) 19.15.43 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-129-202.pools.arcor-ip.net) 19.16.17 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-61-44.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) 19.17.06 Part Bluechip 19.21.44 Part Paul_The_Nerd 19.22.35 # preglow: should be fixed now, please test :) 19.23.14 # i will 19.27.06 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 19.28.00 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 19.30.39 Quit Kohlrabi ("Fast alle Menschen sind Regenwürmer") 19.32.43 Join Mongey|homework [0] (n=mongeyc@213-94-255-251.b-ras1.dbn.dublin.eircom.net) 19.32.57 Quit Mongey|homework (Client Quit) 19.38.15 Quit Paprica (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.39.51 Join eli_sherer [0] (n=eli@IGLD-84-228-59-231.inter.net.il) 19.40.08 # LinusN: Should we make measurements how deep we could go with the voltage in H3x0 series? In the moment it takes the min_voltage of the H1x0, if i see that right. 19.42.06 # * eli_sherer says look here: http://www.misticriver.net/showpost.php?p=376358 19.49.10 Join ender [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 19.50.51 # Coooool... 19.51.30 # eli :D 19.51.53 Join ModernExecutive [0] (n=bob@wm204-165.unwired-grad.wm.edu) 19.52.15 # do you have and OB (optimized build)? 19.52.52 # Just wanted to inquire: did linus come up with a new version of the US patched firmware? 19.55.16 # Slasheri: works just dnady 19.55.18 # dandy 19.55.42 # ModernExecutive: linus doesn't distribute patched firmwares 19.55.48 Join arkascha [0] (n=arkascha@xdsl-213-168-116-81.netcologne.de) 19.56.03 Join Coolhawk [0] (n=mledest@coolhawk.static.otenet.gr) 19.56.34 # preglow: i was a guinea pig for a patched firmware. 19.56.53 # the test was to see if his patch retained drm 19.56.55 # it did not 19.57.03 # i was just curious if he had tried again. 19.57.06 # i made it a thread for feedback and stuff: http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?p=376368#post376368 19.58.22 # Anyone here have had a burned charger circuit on the X5 ? 19.58.28 # someone should make a more customisable gui system for rockbox 19.58.37 # this just bolting on colours doesn't do it for me 19.59.43 # i ask because i have another h320 with drm that could serve as fodder for another version 19.59.53 # well, he hasn't mentioned it 20.00.08 # ok 20.03.28 # ModernExecutive: What happened with your player? RMAes? 20.03.44 # yep. got my rma replacement yesterday. 20.03.52 # only problem was that the HDD was shot on the replacement 20.04.06 # a quick call to iriver led to yet another rma replacement, which should arrive by tomorrow 20.04.26 # in the meantime, i swaped the HDD from the bricked player into the rma replacement. 20.04.31 # then i shipped back the bricked player. 20.05.12 # Slasheri: tagcache? :> 20.06.00 # preglow: will come when i found some time.. maybe at next week :) 20.06.14 # hmm, i just discovered that the previous fix introduced a bug also.. 20.06.28 # oh? 20.06.40 # yep, but trying to fix that now :) 20.07.31 # amiconn: ping 20.09.07 Join ^BeN^ [0] (i=Paprica@TLV62-0-106-155.bb.netvision.net.il) 20.09.54 # Someone here knows where it's possible to get more info on the hardware part of the iAudio X5 ? Have one here with a burned charger circuit. Have checked rockbox hardware section, but contains only main components. I'll need at least the schematics of the charger circuit in order to fix this. Or do I direct this to another channel ? If so, which one ? Furterhmore I made a post on iAudiophile here : 20.09.56 # http://www.iaudiophile.net/forums/showthread.php?t=7015 20.13.11 # Coolhawk: if you have the unit open... you could read the chips and do some research on what they are... and use that to help us and yourself :) 20.15.09 # Already done... Also researched all SMS markings, and also read all related hardware specs on rockbox for the main components on the X5 board, which helps a little, but not enough, since this is a triple layer board, it's not very easy 20.15.41 # Furthermore, the burned components was so burned that markings on them was gone, therefore I've no idea which kind of diodes they were 20.16.37 Quit ender` (Connection timed out) 20.16.38 # And yes, I've the unit open right here now, and tracing lines to both the DC/DC converter and the PMU5050 20.16.48 # sorry PMU5060 20.18.45 Quit uwe_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.18.46 # The only person who might know more about the hardware would be LinusN as he's working on the bootloader for the X5. 20.20.33 # lostlogic: pong 20.21.25 # The unit is still working, but of course not charging after a "Samsung" charger which according to the guy "looked similar" was plugged, and of course poooofff and smoke. Another problem is that both the DC/DC converter and the PMU is programmable units, so even if I find out in the end that one of those are burned dead, then the problem of getting those programmed does offer a challenge. So thats why I needed proper schematics for the charge 20.21.35 # I think that if the improved error checking really causes codec failures, there must be something wrong with the codec change itself. 20.22.09 # LinusN, you happen to be around maybe ? 20.22.43 # amiconn: :-\ all I know is that current CVS doesn't do codec song transitions, but without the codecs.c part of that commit, it does, I haven't had a chance to figure out the whole path of breakage yet. 20.23.43 # you mean across different codecs? 20.24.03 # preglow: yeah, during playback, a change from a song of one codec to song of another codec 20.24.08 # Huh? If you compile without the codecs.c changes only, I'd expect codecs to crash immediately 20.24.09 # really now 20.24.26 # amiconn: not the main patch, the "More consistent error handling" part 20.24.39 # ..b/c the old code assumed entry point == start of codec, while the new system has the entry point address stored in the header 20.25.15 # The strange thing is that I even tested codec transitions, and all of them worked fine 20.26.08 # amiconn: I assumed it was my codec return path change as well, but I tested with that reverted and still had the brokenness 20.26.42 # If it is the improved error checking _only_, then something obviously overwrites the very start of the codec (where the codec magic is) 20.27.11 # amiconn: that would make sense -- since it only happens if it's during playback, but not if it's during skip 20.27.25 # The only change for target is that it checks the magic 20.27.40 # sim checks are even more relaxed than before 20.30.02 Quit tvelocity ("Leaving") 20.30.03 Quit akaidiot (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.30.54 # brb 20.31.02 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 20.34.30 Quit kkurbjun (Remote closed the connection) 20.34.34 Join Thus0 [0] (n=Thus0@124.111.102-84.rev.gaoland.net) 20.37.12 Quit ender (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.38.03 Quit BHSPitLappy ("Dropped my laptop.") 20.40.00 Join Drumr|Defeated [0] (n=Drumrboy@ool-44c2019c.dyn.optonline.net) 20.49.25 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 20.50.55 Part SteL 20.51.43 # preglow: now i have found many bugs and trying to fix them.. :) 20.52.13 # hahaha 20.52.15 # goodgood 20.52.16 # any new ones? 20.52.51 # lostlogic: Hmm, I made a test playlist, alternating between the same 2 tracks multiple times (one .ogg and one .mp2). The first time a track change was due, it skipped 4 (!) tracks with codec failure, then continued playing 20.53.19 # yep, probably. And i also fixed that playback will stop if track cannot be changed immediately 20.53.32 # amiconn: yeah, that's about what was seeing until I reverted the magic checking... what could be overwriting the beginning of the codec!? 20.53.35 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@c220-239-137-122.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 20.54.23 Join DrumRBoy320 [0] (n=Drumrboy@ool-44c2019c.dyn.optonline.net) 20.54.35 # Again, 4 tracks skipped, strange... 20.56.21 # do the codecs themselves get put on the compressed audio buffer? 20.56.45 # yes 20.56.46 # Slasheri: Any idea? Or is that one of the bugs you already found? 20.57.17 # could it be some of the tag parsing or stripping code that's effecting the codecs that are on the buffer? 20.57.22 # amiconn: that sounds like a new problem 20.57.24 # Slasheri: excellent, excellent 20.58.00 # it is a new problem 20.58.10 # amiconn: can you find from logf what was the cause for that codec failure? 20.58.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.58.42 # The error checks don't logf(), but that could be added 20.58.56 # * amiconn never used logf() on iriver, and only once on archos 20.58.57 # Slasheri: it is pretty surely the hdr->magic != CODEC_MAGIC check 20.59.03 # ah. but it can fail before the codec ever gets loaded.. at the codec loader 20.59.07 Join Mongey [0] (n=mongeyc@86.41.2.152) 20.59.20 # The disk loading didn't change 20.59.20 Join ender [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 21.01.13 # Hmm, now even the playlist display got confused. It must have skipped an odd number of tracks this time (because it plays the same title again - in an alternating list), but the playlist didplay now shows the other track (!) 21.02.33 # i just went from mp3 to ogg with no problems 21.02.35 # hmm, weird 21.07.25 # Now it just sits here in the wps, not playing, but not stopping either 21.08.19 # parts of the codec must be getting eaten, but why does it not have a problem when the magic check is absent? 21.08.22 # (and the 'follow playlist' position was wrong - in the dir of the other track - after hitting Stop) 21.08.48 Quit Mongey (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.09.01 Quit Skydemon ("bye bye") 21.09.48 Join aegray [0] (n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com) 21.09.48 Quit bobwise ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 21.11.02 Join petur [0] (i=petur@d54C1B62E.access.telenet.be) 21.11.44 # lostlogic: Red builds... 21.12.38 Quit Drumr|Defeated (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.12.58 # fixed 21.15.13 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 21.15.26 # was watchin' for them, thought I'd caught everywhere where platforms w/o charging were trying to check if a charger was inserted, but missed one. 21.16.15 Join DocterD [0] (n=DocterD@dslb-084-059-094-096.pools.arcor-ip.net) 21.16.58 Part XavierGr 21.17.22 Part petur 21.18.01 # lostlogic: Btw, you're right that building the other target's tool chains is a good idea 21.18.37 # I had an m68k compiler before I had an iriver, and I have an arm compiler even though I don't even plan to buy an iPod or gigabeat 21.19.02 # amiconn: calmrisc16-elf and calmrisc16-unknown-elf are telling me they are invalid in binutils 2.16.1 21.19.24 # they're from a special gcc dev package 21.19.28 # Hmm, that's the one platform I don't have a compiler for. 21.19.33 # the gmini porter was insane 21.19.44 # hahaha, ok, I'll skip that one too then :) 21.19.44 # he did the gcc port as well 21.19.49 # The gmini port seems to be practically dead now 21.20.14 # ...and building calmrisc gcc requries a special gcc version as well 21.20.24 # it does? 21.20.30 # Did anyone even try to build the calmrisc gcc on cygwin 21.20.33 # ? 21.20.36 # I never had any problem 21.20.42 # on linux I mean 21.21.05 # I'd guess that I and jyp were about the only ones who did it ;-) 21.21.39 # jyp being the person crazy enough to make a gcc port just to hack on their audio player? 21.21.45 # yes 21.21.50 # and an emulator 21.22.03 # Bagder: Hmm, that was misleading. Of course I mean that you need the gcc sources from gemoss in order to build calmrisc gcc 21.22.05 # that emulated the device, including ata and lcd 21.22.12 # ...not that you need a special host gcc 21.22.17 # amiconn: ah, right 21.22.36 # what happened to him? 21.22.53 # his computer died 21.23.16 # he being unemployed, didn't want or could buy a new one just for this 21.23.32 # gah, hate to hear about people that smart being not employed. 21.23.52 # and I bet he felt a bit lonely in his struggle 21.24.06 Quit ModernExecutive () 21.26.54 # is the conclusion that for arm gcc-4 is better than gcc-3? 21.27.41 # the verdict isn't yet carved in stone, but it seems to lean towards gcc4 21.28.14 # for build checks either one works though? 21.28.26 # oh sure 21.28.34 # we should build fine with either one anyway 21.29.00 # haven't bought an iPod yet so it matters not how it runs yet. 21.30.36 Quit ender` (Success) 21.31.30 Join Bger_ [0] (n=Bager@217.9.226.114) 21.32.34 Quit DocterD (Remote closed the connection) 21.34.40 # gcc4 at least makes code that works 21.34.47 # it doesn't seem any less solid than gcc3 so far 21.34.47 Join DocterD [0] (n=DocterD@dslb-084-059-091-101.pools.arcor-ip.net) 21.34.56 Quit noonex ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 21.35.23 # preglow: now it should work better :) 21.35.26 # lostlogic: people that smart being unemployed is a good thing if they spend their time porting tools to entire platforms, heh 21.35.30 # someone should just fund them 21.35.39 Quit DangerousDan ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 21.35.42 # Slasheri: what should work better, i don't know what you fixed, heh 21.35.54 # preglow: the playback in general.. :) 21.36.20 # goodie 21.36.52 # ahh, great 21.37.01 # tracks not stopping when you skip is a bit annoying 21.37.19 # * amiconn wonders what that 'playlist cachectrl' thread is 21.38.05 # How to use menu_init and menu functions in plugin API? 21.38.53 # Help?! 21.39.58 # At least I know that it has an excessively long name 21.40.32 # int (*menu_init)(const struct menu_item* mitems, int count, int (*callback)(int, int), const char *button1, const char *button2, const char *button3); 21.40.32 Quit Coolhawk () 21.40.36 # ugh, how the still red blast... *fixes more* 21.41.09 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp57-adsl-53.ath.forthnet.gr) 21.48.05 # whats the difference between the H100 and the H1x0 ? 21.48.52 # less ram 21.48.54 # smaller disk 21.49.27 # so for RB the diff is only the smaller ram 21.50.27 Join Mongey [0] (n=mongeyc@83-70-48-236.b-ras1.dbn.dublin.eircom.net) 21.50.27 # pretty much, afaik 21.50.35 Quit Mongey (Client Quit) 21.50.48 # The s/pdif out led switch polarity is inverted 21.51.40 # amiconn: the cache ctrl thread loads filename pointers from dircache on background 21.51.56 # so going to playlist viewer for example doesn't require disk access 21.52.21 # I don't understand... 21.52.34 # Why does that need a whole extra thread? 21.53.01 # The playlist viewer works w/o extra thread on archos. 21.53.06 # hmm.. that thing was slow enough to annoy user a few seconds when creating a playlist with hundreds of files 21.53.14 # so the thread eliminates that problem 21.53.30 # yep it works because archos doesn't implement dircache 21.53.46 # Hmm, is loading from the dircache actually slower than loading from disk ??? 21.53.56 # why... why would rb->lcd_update() be a broken line on the archos player target but not on iRiver? 21.54.12 # player uses charcell lcd 21.54.19 # erm, because the players have no lcd_update() 21.54.39 # In the core this is solved by defining an empty macro, but obviously this won't work in plugins 21.54.42 # ooh so #ifdef HAVE_LCD_BITMAP. 21.54.49 # yup 21.55.05 # (it would resolve to rb->; which is obviously invalid) 21.55.52 # amiconn: no, but we call get_filename and after that find the pointer to that filename from dircache, so it requires disk access also 21.56.33 # sorry but have to go now, cu tomorrow 21.58.40 Nick ^BeN^ is now known as Paprica (i=Paprica@TLV62-0-106-155.bb.netvision.net.il) 22.01.30 Join petur [0] (i=petur@d54C1B62E.access.telenet.be) 22.01.49 Join solexx [0] (n=jrschulz@c146231.adsl.hansenet.de) 22.06.03 # petur the brightness bugfix patch is commited 22.06.11 # 10x 22.06.25 # heh for what ? 22.06.35 # Brightness 1 gives no light at all here as well (wanted to check that) 22.06.54 # I know 22.07.06 # but amiconn didn't :P 22.07.29 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 22.08.18 # Bger: 'here' is the word. There might be slight hardware differences... 22.08.34 # mine was black as well 22.08.48 # amiconn ah, yes :) 22.08.48 # that's why I set minimum as 2 22.08.55 # yes 22.09.05 Quit mirak (Remote closed the connection) 22.09.28 # Still, the display is actually readable in bright light even w/o backlight (but not good enough to be usable) 22.09.58 # I wish there was an option to revert to B&W when the backlight went off. 22.10.27 # amiconn: and that's good... I used that feature when I screwed up during implementation :) 22.11.20 # Paul_The_Nerd: what device? 22.11.20 # You could have used the voice UI as well 22.11.36 # * Bger_ wonders whether his eyes are so bad to see anything w/o backlight ... 22.11.55 Join akaidiot [0] (n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 22.12.22 # Bger_: quite unusual for you to be around here at this time... 22.12.32 # Bger: If the backlight is actually off you can't see anything, b/c the display gets switched off as well 22.12.43 # petur yep :) at last net @ home 22.12.54 # Unlock the brightness clamp, and set brightness to 0 or 1 22.13.31 # amiconn i know about the display switching off... 22.13.42 # but there was time when it didn't switch off 22.13.43 Quit solexx_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.14.09 # petur: Well, I imagine it'd be nice on anything with a color screen, though I've only seen the Nano's screen, which even with the blue tinted backdrop is still very readable in moderate light. 22.14.35 # but not the H3xx :( 22.14.48 # It is possible to build colour LCDs which are readable w/o backlight, just these aren't very common yet 22.14.57 # (probably more expensive) 22.15.16 # The newer blackberry email clients have these 22.15.19 # amiconn: The Nano's is very readable w/o backlight. 22.15.46 # Actually, podzilla defaults to having the backlight disabled completely until you enable it, so it'd be really frustrating if it wasn't. Heh. 22.20.26 Join SeeSchloss [0] (n=SeeSchlo@this.is.not.a.hostname.ssz.fr) 22.21.13 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-123-144.VIC.netspace.net.au) 22.22.01 Join Shebb [0] (n=510ddbd0@labb.contactor.se) 22.28.53 # yep 22.29.02 # nano has one of the better colour lcds i've seen 22.30.14 # if I have recorder, ondio, player, ipod 4g and iRiver H(1,3)x0 keypads supported in a plugin, that's the requirement for being added yes? 22.30.19 Join RotAtoR [0] (n=e@12-210-82-91.client.insightBB.com) 22.30.30 # and do we like the dice plugin enough to include it? 22.30.44 # Is there an implementation of log2 in rockbox at all? All I am after is a very simple one to crunch numbers between 0.5 and 2 without much need for accuracy beyond several decimal places 22.31.08 # Ugha :/ 22.31.26 # * amiconn noticed a (slight) problem with coldfire gpio 22.31.37 # amiconn ? 22.32.10 # Some gpio bits have separate input and output pins - that makes bit manipulation of other bits unsafe 22.32.51 # The 'out' part of such a split i/o will take the state of the 'in' part after manipulating other bits 22.33.10 # yucky 22.33.26 # There's currently only one bit where this coldfire feature is actually used - gpio33 on H300 22.33.47 # It's not critical, just that the remote backlight will take the state of the hold switch 22.34.01 # ...until the remote backlight thread corrects it 22.35.09 # The only solution I can think of is that we mirror the output bits in memory (iram) instead of direct port manipulation 22.35.33 # Then we can and() and or() this mirror, and output it to the port afterwards 22.36.24 # GPIO or SDRAM faster? GPIO or IRAM faster? 22.36.56 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-129-202.pools.arcor-ip.net) 22.38.35 Quit ender (Connection timed out) 22.39.55 Join xboxintel [0] (i=GOD@ACA84B3D.ipt.aol.com) 22.40.54 # i have an unusual task that i need to be executed,it revolves around a 40 gig hdd that i got out of a creative mp3 player,i want to unlock it and use it in my laptop,the only way i think it can be unlock is by hotswapping with my xbox and pc with the use of a 3.5" ide to 2.5" adpater" that i ordered,any ideas and thoughts would be great ^_^ 22.41.18 Quit XavierGr ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 22.42.31 Join Chamois [0] (n=Florian@bro67-3-82-231-134-112.fbx.proxad.net) 22.42.34 # hmmm 22.42.37 # hi 22.42.42 # i have a little question 22.42.54 # h340 seemms less powerful than my h140 22.42.59 # fire away 22.43.13 # in what way? 22.43.15 # boost ration is more important on the h340 than on my h140 for the same mp3 file 22.43.27 # lostlogic: I'm not sure, but gpio speed should be the same as iram speed 22.43.39 # do ypu know why ? 22.43.50 # Chamois: that's possibly a side effect of the unit having to do more work to draw to the screen, perhaps 22.43.54 # ...so mirroring gpo will be *slighly* slower than manipilating it directly 22.44.04 # hmm yes 22.44.21 # but it is a very importahnt difference 22.44.23 # gotcha 22.45.06 Join SteL [0] (n=stel@slawson.plus.com) 22.45.24 # Slasheri: Your latest commit _seems_ to be causing codec changes during playback to do that strange not error, not stop, not play thing that amiconn described. 22.45.55 # I didn't try the latest changes... 22.46.12 # amiconn: I'd gotten that behavior now and then before, but now it seems to happen a lot. 22.46.29 # I wish I could figure out the exact things that cause each. 22.47.03 Join kkurbjun [0] (n=Jim@c-24-8-222-177.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 22.47.29 # Bagder: I'll have a patch in sourceforge in a bit fixing those problems 22.47.40 # great! 22.47.47 # nite all 22.47.50 Quit Bger_ ("[BX] Uh oh... I'm getting a blip on the gaydar. Richard Simons is coming!") 22.48.15 # hmm for a 128k cbr mp3 file : boost ratio h340 = 8%; h140=0% 22.48.18 # hi kkurbjun 22.48.22 # it is a big difference 22.48.25 # amiconn: hi 22.48.38 # Do you know what causes rockboy to emit an unpleasant noise on startup? 22.48.50 # yeah, I've fixed that too in my new patch 22.49.10 # Chamois: well, like he said, more work is needed for screed redraw on h3x0 22.49.10 Quit DocterD ("Leaving") 22.49.11 # the sound buffers weren't initialized to 0 before I started playback 22.49.32 Quit ghode|afk () 22.49.38 # maybe the screen redraw can be canceled when the backlight is off 22.49.43 # yuck :/ 22.49.47 # draws MP3 128kbit VBR much more power than CBR? 22.49.58 # Chamois: it is 22.50.10 # Rob2222: there is no such thing as 128kbs vbr 22.50.11 # ah 22.50.13 # unless you mean average bitrate 22.50.22 # * amiconn wonders what statement of Bagder's kkurbjun referred to 22.50.30 # si it is not that wich cuases the boost ratio differnece 22.50.48 # he was asking for the patch fix on sourceforge and misticriver 22.51.07 # well, there's only so much that can cause this difference 22.51.09 # the cpu is the same 22.51.20 # the ram is the same too, afaik 22.51.24 # yes 22.51.30 # so i thought the boost wll be the same 22.52.08 # but in the case it shuts off the lcd, how can you see the boost? 22.52.22 # gah, it's every codec change it freezes now instead of giving codec failure. 22.52.52 # i let the file play a long time 22.52.53 # codec changes still work just dandy here 22.53.03 # and i see afer 22.53.10 # i have an unusual task that i need to be executed,it revolves around a 40 gig hdd that i got out of a creative mp3 player,i want to unlock it and use it in my laptop,the only way i think it can be unlock is by hotswapping with my xbox and pc with the use of a 3.5" ide to 2.5" adpater" that i ordered,any ideas and thoughts would be great ^_^ 22.53.11 # preglow: :( 22.53.14 # without touch the both player 22.53.15 # * amiconn just started playing the very same .ogg album on both h140 and h340, watching the audio thread... 22.53.18 # Chamois: the boost percentage doesn't take very long time into account, iirc 22.53.28 # i know 22.53.28 # amiconn: turns outthat wasn't the problem. I thought I fixed it, but it's not working right.. I'll have to look into that more 22.53.29 # i'm switching codecs like mad, works just lovely 22.53.34 # but i'm sure that i'am saying 22.53.42 # this is with the bleeding edge build straight after slasheris first fix 22.53.43 # preglow: on H3x0? 22.53.46 # h1x0 22.54.09 # Bagder: The boost percentage averages across the whole time you stay in 'View audio thread' 22.54.15 # aha 22.54.17 # hmmmmm could it have to do with me using a big playlist formed from the root of the player vs. you using dir mode? 22.54.24 # dir mode indeed 22.54.27 # If you leave and re-enter, averaging starts again 22.54.58 # amiconn : so your test is concluant ? 22.55.22 # i could try the very latest build as well, i suppose 22.55.55 Quit ender` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.56.29 # lostlogic: I also used dir mode resp. a small playlist (6 entries) and it happened... 22.57.00 # preglow: Yes, i meaned abr what the same is as variable bit rate, at least i thought 22.57.23 # well, slasheris fixed did not work as intended 22.57.32 # playback does not stop when i select a file that is not buffered 22.58.04 # Chamois: There's a clear difference. With the first album track, boost ratio is ~28% on H140 but ~39% on H340 22.58.14 # amiconn: LCD always on? 22.58.16 # so i'm not crazy 22.58.19 # yup 22.58.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.58.30 # me with the LCD always off 22.58.41 # but when i want to see the ratio 22.58.47 # I'll re-check with LCD off, to see whether drawing matters 22.59.05 # any idea for this differnece ? 22.59.13 # nothing comes to mind yet. 22.59.14 # except the screen redraw 23.00.04 # i just can't provoke this bug 23.00.06 # no way 23.00.12 Join akaidiota [0] (n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 23.00.21 # preglow: you're _seeking/playing_ not _skipping_ between codecs? 23.01.03 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 23.01.08 Quit Chamois (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC has never been so good") 23.01.39 Quit JoeBorn ("Leaving") 23.03.11 # lostlogic: The screen drawing (to the framebuffer) also happens when the lcd is off, just the transfer to the lcd doesn't happen 23.03.28 Quit xboxintel ("official GCOS & GCOS viper beta tester") 23.03.58 # disabling them too will be trickier 23.04.53 # lostlogic: i'm skipping between tracks 23.04.53 Quit Shebb ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.05.05 # preglow: skipping doesn't cause the problem, only in play mode. 23.05.09 # switching between mp3, ogg, flac, musepack 23.05.10 # right 23.05.15 # now why the hell would that be= 23.05.36 # some part of the codec buffer is being written to when it ought not. 23.05.56 # Like, if it reaches the end of the track naturally (you can seek to within a couple seconds of it) it occurs. It's happening here too 23.05.57 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (i=Steve-O@adsl-64-123-189-140.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 23.06.01 # when the previous song reads its last frame? 23.08.43 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp57-adsl-53.ath.forthnet.gr) 23.09.42 Quit mikearthur (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.10.18 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 23.11.12 Quit arkascha (Remote closed the connection) 23.11.37 # preglow: Do you know whether arm/iPod does have SDRAM burst mode in some way? 23.12.28 # Paprica: very nice patch 23.12.30 # i like it 23.12.37 # amiconn: line writes in lcd-16bit.c on your mind? 23.12.50 # yes 23.12.53 # amiconn: i have no idea 23.13.07 # amiconn: would be weird to have a multiple write/read instruction and not support burst mode 23.13.10 # amiconn: I was _just_ looking into that :) 23.13.11 # The internal bitmap format would have to be changed for this to work best 23.13.34 # monochrome bitmap format I mean, also fonts 23.13.42 # amiconn: why? 23.14.54 # If the bits are oriented horizontally, they would map to adjacent pixels in the framebuffer 23.15.52 # ..and even, 8 bits = 8 (mono) pixels matches 8(pixels) * 16(bit/pixel) == 128 bit == 1 line (!) 23.17.10 Quit akaidiot (Connection timed out) 23.17.35 # line size is always the same? 23.18.03 # I used to have a hard time understanding why memory bandwidth had to be so huge on graphics cards. Then I saw how much it takes just to deal with a small 16bit framebuffer. 23.18.05 # coldfire line size is 16 bytes 23.19.00 # NicoFR: thak you 23.19.03 # thank 23.19.04 # * 23.19.36 # do you have any plans for making it even better ? 23.19.40 Quit ender` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.19.42 # lostlogic: yes, do get kind of a feeling how important it is in pcs... 23.20.17 # mm do you heva ideas? 23.20.47 # paerhaps centering texts (title and clock) vertically in the status bar 23.20.55 # and also relative positionning 23.21.17 # ie defining an order, not having to set absolute coordinates 23.21.35 # mm ok 23.21.55 # if i can do somthing like the wps 23.22.06 # (loading costume images) 23.22.08 # that would be the best 23.22.12 # yep 23.22.21 # but i dont know if i can do that 23.23.45 # probably an easy one : add one pixel under the bottom line so that the text below doesn't touch it 23.24.19 # ok 23.24.56 # Hmm, boost ratios still different with display off on H340 23.25.14 # good night 23.25.21 # gnite 23.25.24 # going too ;) 23.25.26 # amiconn: so it's the framebuffer ops that are causing the diff most likely? 23.25.34 Quit NicoFR () 23.25.37 # Same track as before, but (1) builds synced, (2) all voice turned off as well 23.25.37 Nick Paprica is now known as Paprica[sleep] (i=Paprica@TLV62-0-106-155.bb.netvision.net.il) 23.25.49 # 27% on H140 this time, and 35% on H340 23.26.09 # Trying again with bl on... 23.26.18 # i always knew my h1x0 was the coolest 23.27.00 # true... 23.27.00 # Hehehe 23.28.36 Join Kaggen [0] (n=kaggen@c-722ae155.33-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 23.28.44 # is there any target for RB with a 2,5" HDD? (without archos) ? 23.29.28 # nope 23.32.31 # 39% on H340 with backlight on 23.32.42 # (H140 same as before) 23.33.24 # amiconn: think we could exploit the LCDADDR macro to disable framebuffer writes when the display is off (ie. #define LCDADDR(x,y) (display_on?&lcd_framebuffer[(y)][(x)]:thebitbucket) or something)? 23.33.49 # That won't work. 23.34.06 # This way we would loose everything drawn during display off 23.34.18 Join TCK- [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-220-171.dsl.pipex.com) 23.34.30 # besides, when the result of the macro is incremented it would be effed up... 23.34.31 # it'd also slow down all writes 23.35.15 Join vger_ [0] (n=henrico@cn-mss-cb01-2760.dial.kabelfoon.nl) 23.35.26 # I really think that switching the mono bitmap format could help 23.35.48 # but ok 23.35.50 # time for bed, alter 23.35.54 # later, even 23.35.58 # 'night 23.36.01 # ... and that would more or less require linuxstb's bmp build to get used first 23.36.02 # (preglow: Psst, this would also help porting to greyscale iPods ;) ) 23.37.09 # This would also allow a pattern lookup table for 2 (or even 4 with long longs) pixels 23.37.35 # Nah, 4 would probably be overkill, it would cause slowdowns when colours are changed a lot 23.39.43 # In fact bmp2rb can already geneate the reqired mono bitmap format -- would be the same as playergfx (!) 23.43.21 Quit Kohlrabi ("Fast alle Menschen sind Regenwürmer") 23.44.43 # convbdf would need to be extended, and the font structure should be extended by a font format member 23.46.07 Join webguest93 [0] (n=51429f35@labb.contactor.se) 23.46.29 Part SteL 23.47.22 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 23.50.22 Join Zoric [0] (n=zoric@nl103-153-133.student.uu.se) 23.51.49 Part Zoric 23.51.51 Join Zoric [0] (n=zoric@nl103-153-133.student.uu.se) 23.52.55 Quit TCK- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.53.57 Quit webguest93 ("CGI:IRC") 23.55.46 Quit ehntoo (Remote closed the connection) 23.56.22 # I updated my player to the latest build today and it's behaving strangely. When its supposed to begin playing the next track it just pauses and does nothing... It doesnt help to press pause and play again...