--- Log for 21.01.106 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 6 days and 17 hours ago 00.00.47 # In any event, let me see what I can come up with. I am going to be doing a lot of traveling over the next few weeks/months, so I'll have time at night to kill. 00.01.10 # There's no harm in me taking a look at the issue and putting out a proposal for comment. 00.01.20 Quit webguest63 (Client Quit) 00.02.32 # Or maybe I'll just create my own "H300 Optimized" keymapping and post it only on Mistic River. 00.02.34 # * Febs ducks. 00.02.44 # hahahaha 00.02.47 # lol 00.02.54 # will it be blinking and have fancy colours? 00.02.57 # please, pretty please :/ 00.03.07 # Of course. I'll install LEDs in the buttons! 00.03.08 # a keymapping? 00.03.12 # heh. 00.03.18 # random mapping at startup! 00.03.37 Join DocterD [0] (n=DocterD@dslb-084-059-091-077.pools.arcor-ip.net) 00.07.29 Join webguest65 [0] (n=0cad6dbb@labb.contactor.se) 00.07.32 # lostlogic: seemlessness is unpleasant issue, but when trying to A-B wav the result is very inaccurate and the loop is usualy much shorter.. 00.09.20 # amiconn: so you want archos recorder to be able to load color bmp's? 00.09.28 # that's because the reported position is inaccurate, i'd believe 00.09.30 # due to buffering 00.09.49 # hmm... yes, I may need to tweak where the markers are set as well. 00.10.01 # b0br: the problem is worth with wav than other codecs? 00.10.28 # s/worth/worse/ 00.10.49 # LinusN: Yes. Of course, the format parameter will be dontcare, as native format == mono format 00.11.07 # ok 00.16.20 # lostlogic: I've tested only wave so far, but now I tried mp3 and it's the same (second mark is set wrong and still changing).. 00.16.32 Quit akaidiot (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.16.42 # seems to me like the first mark is set wrong, not the second :-\ 00.17.51 # amiconn: btw, to fix that long_call attribute problem i had, i would have to move all the ICODE_ATTR stuff to the header files, yes= 00.17.54 # ? 00.18.10 # lostlogic: :) may be, but the end is cut (about 2 sec) 00.18.11 Quit Thus0 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.18.11 Quit DocterD ("Leaving") 00.18.18 # I think so, but I don't know for sure 00.18.19 Join Thus0 [0] (n=Thus0@124.111.102-84.rev.gaoland.net) 00.19.31 Quit XavierGr ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 00.20.35 # b0br: right, the end is cut so the B marker is broken...? 00.21.17 # amiconn: 'cause we really need to get rid of this bloody long-call problem 00.21.21 # it's turning up everywhere 00.22.24 Quit linuxstb ("Leaving") 00.22.27 Quit Kaggen ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") 00.24.19 # I don't know, you are the programmer.. I gave up C five years ago, because it was too complicate for me :) 00.25.01 Join dave___ [0] (n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 00.25.07 Nick dave___ is now known as linuxstb (n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 00.25.08 # it's dave___! 00.25.20 # Almost... 00.28.18 # did anyone try to fix that dircache alignment bug, btw? 00.31.52 Quit ender` (" I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything.") 00.35.08 Part b0br 00.35.25 # linuxstb: new button driver seems to be heaps better 00.35.29 # i can press a button at any time now 00.42.08 # The iFP port has been commited to Rockbox CVS and new versions will be available only there. 00.42.18 # that is one Tomek's homepage, how do i access that now? 00.44.36 # i hate rockbox. 00.45.03 # lol 00.45.11 # * petur takes large hammer 00.45.12 # ever since i found the sudoku and other game plugins i have been paying less and less attention in lectures 00.45.31 # its evil i tell you! 00.45.37 # * muesli__ nodes 00.46.06 # * petur hands large hammer to steveb and points at his DAP 00.46.20 # i love it too much :( 00.46.34 # rockbox addiction... hehe 00.46.55 # someone should start a support group 00.47.55 # linuxstb: it's somewhat better, at least 00.47.57 Join Kyl3 [0] (i=no@cpe-24-90-232-183.nyc.res.rr.com) 00.48.04 # it's still got some crazy ass glitches that's hard to explain 00.48.05 # Slasheri: why does codec_seek_complete_callback call pcmbuf_play_stop()? 00.48.07 # Hey is there anyway to have the H300 boot Rockbox when you charge it? I hate having to set my clock every time 00.48.27 # Kyl3: ? 00.48.30 # Kyl3: probably next bootloader version. 00.48.47 # oh ok 00.48.52 # steveb: bejeweled is particularily dangerous to me 00.48.54 # oh. i think i have only plugged the charger in while rockbox is running 00.49.20 # preglow: sudoku has got me. i was addicted to it before rockbox but limited by only having paper copies. 00.49.36 # i've never even tried sudoku 00.49.37 # the only annoying thing is that i cant do any of the ones i have on my iRiver... they are all too difficult 00.49.50 # also the blocks game is good 00.49.57 # paper sudoku usually has numbers filled in right? 00.51.52 # the rockbox version does as well 00.51.58 # you just have to find them on the net first ;) 00.52.21 # if you run it from the plugin browser it allows you to create new games (ie, from a paper version) 00.52.24 # im bad at sudoku.. idk how to play it 00.52.32 # its not that hard 00.53.36 # whats that thing on the side for 00.56.10 # linuxstb: would you like to test a bootloader using this new code? 00.56.56 Join ModernExecutive [0] (n=bob@pool-151-199-153-6.norf.east.verizon.net) 00.57.25 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@124.60.15.86) 00.58.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.00.22 # Hi ModernExecutive ;) 01.00.26 # hi rob 01.00.41 # How much players now? 5 :) 01.00.56 # still just 1. ups didn't make a drop today 01.02.35 # hehe ;) 01.02.57 # LinusN: Have you took a look at the US FW again? 01.03.07 # i love code that just wont behave 01.05.51 # Slasheri: playback still isn't stopped when i load an unbuffered track 01.07.57 # linuxstb: hey-lo? 01.10.48 Quit Moos ("Glory to Rockbox") 01.13.09 # hi 01.20.33 Join YouCeyE [0] (n=YouCeyE@vp089013.reshsg.uci.edu) 01.20.37 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-122-160.VIC.netspace.net.au) 01.21.53 # * preglow out 01.21.54 # later 01.23.24 Quit San||Away () 01.25.32 Quit Tejik (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.26.18 Quit ModernExecutive (Excess Flood) 01.26.57 # lol ^^ 01.28.20 # ^^? 01.29.05 Join ModernExecutive [0] (n=bob@pool-151-199-153-6.norf.east.verizon.net) 01.31.23 # ^^ <= twitch eyebrows 01.31.47 # I know. :) 01.31.51 # ah ok 01.32.46 # Jungti1234: The display that changes color when looking from different angles up and down, is that the new or the old` 01.33.40 # uh? 01.33.49 # H300 01.33.50 # ah yes 01.33.53 # yes 01.34.03 # i got the 2 pics of the 2 different displays 01.34.16 # but i couldnt see, how to recognize 01.34.16 # Send me. 01.34.34 # no, i mean i saw the 2 pics from you. 01.34.46 # my girlfriend killed my new 280 euro digi cam :( 01.34.54 # cant take a shoot 01.34.55 # haha 01.35.23 # um.. 01.35.31 # At your display, does the color sightly chanes when lookinf fom up and down? 01.35.36 Nick BHSPitLappy2 is now known as BHSPitLappy (i=Steve-O@adsl-66-141-169-162.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 01.35.44 # Rob2222: killed it? how? 01.36.10 # the iriver fw blue ... its totally blue and from up/down and almost white from the other side 01.36.15 # what is 'lookinf fom' 01.36.38 # Jungti1234: a misspelling. he meant "looking from" 01.36.40 # ashridah: Sony DSC P200 fallen 50cm .. exact landed on the optics 01.36.46 # "looking from" 01.36.50 # Rob2222: ouch :( 01.36.50 # http://cafe.naver.com/iriverh300/1620 01.37.25 # Rob2222: yes 01.38.06 # Jungti1234: OK then I have the same display. 01.38.06 # My LCD looks like white when see left and right. 01.38.13 # Ok 01.38.21 # http://cafe.naver.com/iriverh300/1771 01.38.29 # Test picture 01.38.30 # and no color changes from up and down? 01.38.40 # then we have different LCDs 01.38.41 # yes 01.38.50 # um? 01.39.18 # Jungti1234 what are those pix symbolize? 01.39.32 # at my unit the color changes at up and down moves, not left and right 01.39.38 # Do you have horizontal LCD? 01.40.08 # muesli__: It's picture to test LCD. 01.40.13 # i dont know how decide ^^ 01.40.19 # which lcd? 01.40.28 # H300 01.40.47 # did rbx produce it? 01.40.49 # New LCD(horizontal LCD), Old LCD(vertical LCD) 01.41.24 # It's hardware problem. 01.41.48 # Rob2222: hmm.. 01.42.04 # Jungti1234 did rbx produce it? 01.42.12 # what means horizontal and vertical? the viewing angle? 01.42.39 # i think im to stupid to understand 01.42.42 # muesli__: I don't know it's what meaning. 01.42.45 # or its to late 01.43.03 # heh 01.43.07 # how did you make it? 01.43.18 # why? 01.43.29 # just curios 01.43.34 # Downloaded in Internet. 01.45.44 Quit linuxstb ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.0.2/20050317]") 01.46.30 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 01.46.33 # Iriver's fans hate that I talk LCD's problem. 01.46.46 # They attack me. 01.46.53 # wish lcd problem? 01.47.46 # http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=11751&highlight=horizontal+vertical+lcd 01.48.01 # ow 01.48.09 # the 4 pics at this thread 01.48.17 # are first generation units 01.48.25 # you see it at the cover afaik 01.48.45 # wow! 01.49.03 # Pictures prove LCD's problem! 01.49.27 # i had both units 01.49.34 # that with the cover at the thread 01.50.14 # was in one of the first full retrail boxes with cradle, nonlcd remote and external battery pack 01.50.37 # then they switch to the H340SE package without these 3 things 01.50.40 # afaik 01.51.07 # hm.. 01.51.22 # they have different covers 01.51.24 # H340SE? 01.51.28 # yep 01.51.33 # at least here in germany 01.51.41 # I don't know it. 01.51.48 # Do you have picture? 01.51.59 # H340SE = H340 package without: NONLCD-Remote, Cradle, external battery pack 01.52.15 # whahaha 01.52.28 # http://cgi.ebay.de/iriver-H340-kaum-benutzt-fast-neu-in-OVP_W0QQitemZ7582864175QQcategoryZ96331QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem <= new scheme 01.53.35 # that is h340se? 01.53.52 # http://alan.lin.name/image/20040906h340-01.jpg <= old scheme 01.54.18 # at least my SE package had the new cover 01.54.19 Quit Febs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.54.30 # i cant guarentee thats always so 01.56.53 # um 01.57.12 # I have it. 01.57.43 # http://cafe.naver.com/iriverh300/954 01.58.10 # I have Fractal Black 01.59.10 Join akaidiot [0] (n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 02.01.43 # yeah 02.01.56 # that fractal units were in the first packages 02.02.07 # hey akaidiot... 02.02.31 # seems like iriver got the problem and changed the polarisation at later units 02.02.32 # no 02.02.39 # no? 02.03.03 # Pinspot came out first. 02.03.18 # And fractal came out. 02.03.28 # sure? 02.03.31 # yes 02.03.39 # hmm 02.03.48 # And at case, it's two. 02.04.06 # i searched for a unit with full accesoires. at the time it only gaves the SE with less accesoires 02.04.23 # and the "old" unit i got was fractal 02.04.30 # http://www.iriver.co.kr/data/notice/h300case/a14.jpg 02.04.46 # then i got a new SE package from iriver for my bricked H140 and this was pinspot 02.05.01 # hmm 02.05.03 # hey 02.05.04 # yes, that case was in my SE package 02.05.27 # Pinspot isn't made now. 02.05.34 # http://images.digitalshop.ru/big/tovar/iriver_case_for_h3xx.jpg <= an this in the first 02.05.45 # yes 02.05.52 # all units i see at local stores are pinspot 02.06.05 # but well, ok, i dont know which units are manufactured. 02.06.12 # pinspot + old case + old LCD 02.06.18 # no 02.06.21 # yes 02.06.29 # why? 02.06.32 # so my posted cas is the new? 02.06.39 # no 02.06.45 # old case 02.07.28 # http://images.digitalshop.ru/big/tovar/iriver_case_for_h3xx.jpg <- old, first 02.07.33 # http://cgi.ebay.de/NEUER-iriver-H340-HDD-Player-ERWEITERTE-AUSSTATTUNG_W0QQitemZ7582689724QQcategoryZ96332QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem <= This was my first H340. Fractal, 1-part case 02.07.36 # http://www.iriver.co.kr/data/notice/h300case/a14.jpg <- new 02.07.57 # yes and in my package was a fractal player with old case 02.08.11 # hm 02.08.12 # the pinspot player came with the new case 02.08.17 # 1 year later 02.08.22 # for me 02.08.24 Quit petur ("here today, gone tomorrow") 02.08.39 # http://cafe.naver.com/iriverh300/1785 02.08.50 # new packages 02.09.40 # we have no ext. battery pack here at the latest packages and pinspor players ;) 02.09.50 # ok, so it differs from country to country 02.09.51 # hm 02.09.55 # hehe 02.10.16 # i thought the SE special Edition packages had all pinspot. 02.10.17 # I didn't hear about H340 SE. 02.10.36 Quit birdfish () 02.10.39 # http://www.geizhals.at/deutschland/a91520.html 02.10.52 # 1. pinspot + old case + old lcd 02.11.01 # 2. fractal + old case + old lcd 02.11.01 # SE here in germany only means thats a lower price package without remote, cradle, battery pack 02.11.11 # 3. fractal + new case + old lcd 02.11.19 # 4. fractal + new case + old lcd 02.11.27 # ow 02.11.34 # 4. fractal + new case + new lcd 02.11.41 # I have 3 02.11.42 # but SE replaced the normal package. 02.11.56 # I had Fractal + old case + unknown display 02.11.57 # and 02.12.05 # why unknown? 02.12.14 # have pinspot + new case + new display 02.12.27 # Try check. 02.12.36 # ah? 02.12.37 # i didnt knew anything about the display issues as i sold the player 02.12.44 # pinspot + new case + new lcd? 02.12.52 # but i knew they looked difference 02.12.57 # the displays 02.13.12 # i liked the display of the fractal player 02.13.20 # it was brighter 02.13.22 # The Korea doesn't have a person who buy like the package. 02.13.23 # yes 02.13.31 Join DJDD__ [0] (n=DJDD@220-245-186-182.static.tpgi.com.au) 02.13.43 # pinspot + new case + new lcd my current player 02.14.27 # hm 02.14.29 # hehe 02.14.41 # different.... 02.14.57 # i remember as i sold one player and had to decide which 02.15.19 # i liked more the pinspot than the fractal 02.15.32 # me too 02.15.40 # but the fractal display was whiter when looking direct from front 02.16.46 # do you know if there are fractal H320, too? 02.16.57 # I have it. 02.17.15 # ah ok 02.17.26 # hm 02.17.27 # http://cafefiles.naver.net/data15/2006/1/21/163/a12.jpg 02.17.46 # different interface.. 02.18.30 # hmm? 02.18.40 # http://cafefiles.naver.net/data9/2005/12/5/157/b11.jpg 02.19.08 # that was a prototype, afaik 02.19.18 # It planed at begin. 02.19.32 # would like to have such case :) 02.19.50 # hehe 02.20.13 # http://cafe.naver.com/iriverh300/1799 02.21.48 # are units of those sold? 02.22.03 # ./made 02.22.33 # I don't understand 02.22.50 # are units of those build/sold? 02.22.57 # withe silver buttons 02.22.59 # with 02.23.01 # build 02.23.12 # but not sold official? 02.23.13 # Wasn't sold. 02.23.16 # ah ok 02.23.26 # hmm 02.24.07 # I'm going to make out voice file. 02.24.27 # Do you know whether you make it how? 02.24.47 # how to make a voice file? no, i dont know. 02.24.55 # hm 02.25.56 Quit ModernExecutive () 02.25.58 # I want that people who use H300 know LCD problem. 02.32.08 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 02.33.58 # Hmm. 02.34.07 # Have you tried to RMA your player? 02.34.15 # RMA? 02.34.34 # guarantee 02.34.39 # changed by iriver 02.34.43 # new unit 02.35.04 # fix? 02.35.22 # Have you called iriver and said that you want a new player? 02.35.33 # no 02.35.39 # I want new lcd 02.36.19 # maybe they change your player to a player with a new lcd. 02.36.39 # But, iriver didn't recognize LCD problem. 02.36.58 # I would like to know, if all problem-LCDs are in the fractal case 02.37.18 # http://club.iriver.co.kr/digital/bbs_free_view.asp?page=1&item=&word=&free_board_idx=231459 02.37.21 # iOceon 02.37.25 # then simply sell yours and buy a new(used) one. 02.37.30 # He attacks me. 02.37.51 # i cant read that 02.38.01 # you can read 'iOceon' 02.38.17 # hehe 02.38.39 # no i cant 02.38.48 # anyway 02.38.52 # maybe i have the wrong font 02.39.08 # Iriver doesn't recognize. 02.39.33 # http://blog.iriver.co.kr/jungti1234 <= is that your case? 02.39.56 # I don't manage it. 02.40.05 # ok 02.41.10 # He is iriver's follower. 02.41.37 # Fiery fan] 02.42.35 # yes 02.48.47 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IAudioEx5MenuStructure 02.48.48 # um.. 02.56.56 # could somebody test my ftp? 02.57.06 # me 02.58.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.03.19 Quit akaidiot (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.11.18 Part LinusN 03.18.57 Join Tejik [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-69-227-65-95.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 03.19.09 Quit Tejik (Client Quit) 03.27.35 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.36.30 Join birdfish [0] (i=bfisher@mail.affidavitmaker.com) 03.44.31 # wow 03.49.11 # http://mt.dreamwiz.com/review/review.asp?idx=A009&revID=419&p=367573 03.49.53 # that thing is cool looking 03.50.40 # wish icould read that tho 03.51.52 # There is an opportunity that use it into free of charge. 03.53.49 Join CrookedRain [0] (i=crookdra@SY-16-147.resnet.ucsb.edu) 03.56.30 Join Maxime` [0] (n=flemmard@82.229.205.156) 03.56.50 Join Membrillo [0] (n=sam_kill@CPE-60-229-179-140.nsw.bigpond.net.au) 04.05.08 Quit einhirn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.11.00 Quit webguest65 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 04.11.20 Join kernel_sensei [0] (n=boris@lns-bzn-47f-81-56-253-161.adsl.proxad.net) 04.13.54 Quit kernelsensei (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.14.01 Nick kernel_sensei is now known as kernelsensei (n=boris@lns-bzn-47f-81-56-253-161.adsl.proxad.net) 04.14.01 Quit Maxime (Connection timed out) 04.16.35 Quit darkless (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.18.48 Quit TCK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.19.03 # hmm 04.19.32 Join coob [0] (i=pen0r@host-84-9-63-253.bulldogdsl.com) 04.19.39 # Rockboy fullscreen looks like strange. 04.20.10 # yeah, i think it also runs slower 04.20.18 # i dont use full screen 04.20.23 # nono 04.20.54 # um 04.21.10 # no? 04.21.10 # hmm 04.21.12 # Ratio doesn't fit. 04.21.17 # that device you pasted before 04.21.18 # yes i know 04.21.27 # the record buttin is the same as the A-B repeat button 04.21.28 # it looks strange and stretched 04.21.40 # yeah 04.21.41 # wasn't somebody complaining about that button assignment in rb earlier? 04.22.31 # yes 04.22.40 # BHSPitLappy: half of that stems from rockbox not having the ability to have per-arch labels, so what's treated as "play" on rockbox ends up being 'navi' 04.22.52 # but they were kinda thrown together really early on :) 04.23.02 # not much thought went into it 04.23.17 # true 04.28.10 # I wonder whether I make out voice file how. 04.32.37 Quit Membrillo () 04.32.43 # :/ 04.33.26 Join Bluechip [0] (n=BlueChip@cpc2-colc1-3-0-cust143.colc.cable.ntl.com) 04.36.57 Quit Jungti1234 () 04.39.56 Part Bluechip 04.41.20 Quit Kyl3 ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 04.43.36 Join akaidiot [0] (n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 04.43.46 # hola again, akaidiot ... 04.49.39 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48.adsl.vby.tiscali.dk) 04.58.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.02.56 Join Rob2222_ [0] (n=Miranda@ACB001E1.ipt.aol.com) 05.05.36 Quit akaidiot (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.09.23 Quit tvelocity ("Leaving") 05.19.56 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05.26.05 # linuxstb: ping 05.27.02 # blech 05.27.04 # erm 05.28.11 Part Sando 05.28.27 # * BHSPitMonkey shoos away aegray 05.28.37 # i'll shoo you away 05.28.43 # just try me 05.28.43 # no 05.28.46 # i was here first 05.29.24 # fine. 05.29.31 # * aegray types /kickban somewhere esle 05.29.45 # + 05.29.55 # meep 05.30.11 # boo. 05.30.26 # keep talkin 05.30.37 # you started it 05.30.44 # probably did 05.30.45 # as usual 05.31.04 # restrain your bodily noises next time. 05.31.16 # my bodily noises don't tranfer to irc 05.31.20 # i wish they di9d 05.31.22 # thatd be funn 05.31.45 # what was 'blech' them 05.31.56 # s/them/then 05.32.52 # onomatopoeia 05.33.02 # i knew how to spell that too. 05.33.07 # good 05.33.24 # bet the job offers are coming in like crazy 05.33.35 # oh they are 05.33.45 # too bad i have to turn them down to continue playing with my ipod 05.34.00 # yea....thats the excuse I make for myself too 05.34.03 # when i fail an inteview 05.34.18 # * BHSPitMonkey has never failed an interview. 05.34.18 # woooooo no job for liefe! 05.36.06 # never apply at Target 05.36.11 # just FYI 05.38.13 Quit mikearthur (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.40.45 # i only go for computer jobs now 05.40.51 # i bagged groceries for 2 years 05.40.56 # don't need to do that again 05.43.35 # don't you think the video player should keep the backlight on? 05.44.41 # hmm, that's actually a tricky question...on the greyscale models, the video looks better with the backlight off; maybe it should be in settings? 05.51.04 # fine 05.51.11 # send me a patch 05.51.19 # i'm completely rewriting 05.51.25 # everything wil be in kernel for now 05.51.30 # because i need somewhat real time stuff 05.51.32 # with interrupts 05.52.34 # mmk 05.53.00 # hopefully new stuff on the way fd;sa? 05.53.20 # you gonna make a pz2 module? 05.53.28 # god no 05.53.31 # heh... 05.53.32 # well 05.53.33 # maybe 05.53.42 # what's the disdain? 05.53.42 # its more direct to hardware based 05.53.56 # i dunno - just making a modules means noting 05.54.00 # its justa dding somefucntiosn 05.54.06 # god that was brokesn 05.54.06 # well obviously 05.54.22 Quit perplexity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.54.34 # actually, it would probably just be filebrowser still, right? 05.54.41 # hmmmmm 05.54.45 # or maybe a Videos menu :D 05.54.46 # it don't atter 05.54.48 # :) 05.54.54 # that would require video indexing 05.54.59 # the way you find videso acn be changed easilly 05.55.03 # i'm talking tha player itself 05.55.06 # could mpd index videos? 05.55.07 # owe 05.55.10 # i dunno 05.55.14 # aegray: slow down 05.55.16 # haha 05.55.23 # my eyes 05.55.25 # dot work 05.55.32 # mmk 05.55.44 # drugs are bad 05.55.45 # mmmk 05.55.48 # hehe 05.55.56 # what esle does he say that with 05.59.10 # who 05.59.32 # why aren't you in #ipodlinux? 06.00.13 # Does Rockbox allow for multiple genres (per track) through id3v2? 06.01.06 # will rockbox cook me dinner? ;) 06.01.19 # * birdfish wonders 06.01.43 # It's too bad that sort of stuff isn't included :( 06.02.17 # yea.. i wouldnt mind a steak right about now 06.02.24 # :P 06.16.46 Join perplexity [0] (n=joust@217.165.22.100) 06.40.21 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@adsl-70-240-224-165.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 06.45.20 Join akaidiot [0] (n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 06.51.23 # It is so very silent in here. 06.51.29 Join Sando [0] (n=lolsteam@techgaming.net) 06.53.10 Part Paul_The_Nerd 06.59.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.06.31 Quit akaidiot (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.18.49 Join Lost-ash [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-120-220.VIC.netspace.net.au) 07.22.11 Quit RotAtoR ("zzzzzzzzz") 07.24.45 Quit ashridah (Nick collision from services.) 07.24.50 Nick Lost-ash is now known as ashridah (i=ashridah@220-253-120-220.VIC.netspace.net.au) 07.51.38 Join ST [0] (i=STx@c211-31-10-10.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 08.03.48 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-70-114-192-167.houston.res.rr.com) 08.12.28 # * ST np: All Eyez On Me RnB Mix [02:50m/175Kbps/44KHz] 08.24.06 Join Bger [0] (n=Bager@217.9.226.114) 08.25.16 # morning 08.25.29 Quit Paul_The_Nerd ("Leaving.") 08.28.30 Quit ST () 08.37.08 Join BHSPitLappy2 [0] (i=steve-o@adsl-64-217-216-169.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 08.37.11 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.37.22 Quit BHSPitLappy (Nick collision from services.) 08.39.04 Join Musicmad [0] (n=Musicmad@port547.ds1-oebr.adsl.cybercity.dk) 08.41.11 Nick BHSPitLappy2 is now known as BHSPitLappy (i=steve-o@adsl-64-217-216-169.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 08.41.37 # hola 08.45.00 Join Matze [0] (i=Miranda@p5484D176.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.46.42 Join akaidiot [0] (n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 08.52.20 Join EvilDude [0] (i=EvilDude@61.1.188.166) 08.59.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.59.55 Join jborn_ [0] (n=jborn@adsl-68-74-118-65.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) 09.00.56 Quit JoeBorn (Nick collision from services.) 09.00.59 Join ST [0] (i=STx@c211-31-10-10.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 09.01.09 Nick jborn_ is now known as JoeBorn (n=jborn@adsl-68-74-118-65.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) 09.01.28 # hey guys what does the vbrfix.rock do? 09.01.40 Join jborn_ [0] (n=jborn@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 09.01.42 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.03.54 # its more my lips 09.03.57 Quit Musicmad ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 09.04.03 # sorry about that 09.04.07 # wrong window 09.08.20 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@124.60.15.86) 09.08.27 # hello 09.09.49 Quit akaidiot (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.11.29 Quit Jungti1234 (Client Quit) 09.13.49 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@124.60.15.86) 09.15.35 # ? 09.25.23 Part Midgey31 09.29.34 # ST it's for fixing VBR files ... 09.32.19 Join Cari [0] (n=zeroirc@221.145.16.134) 09.33.02 Quit Cari (Client Quit) 09.34.54 Nick ashridah is now known as Lost-ash (i=ashridah@220-253-120-220.VIC.netspace.net.au) 09.55.48 Join DangerousDan [0] (n=Miranda@newtpulsifer.campus.luth.se) 10.01.39 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) 10.02.08 Join akaidiot [0] (n=nope@c-7244e255.363-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 10.02.53 Join SteL [0] (n=stel@slawson.plus.com) 10.05.21 Quit EvilDude () 10.07.28 Join EvilDude [0] (i=EvilDude@61.1.188.166) 10.07.35 Part EvilDude 10.13.06 # wow thw color bmp viewer work good!! 10.14.50 # paprica: link please 10.15.02 # http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1411282&group_id=44306&atid=439120 10.15.20 # thx 10.16.35 # nice, do u think it will be on the optimized build soon, btw can we talk about that build here? because i got abused for doing so one time 10.17.10 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@p54BD4AA7.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.17.35 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 10.17.46 # mm dont know 10.17.47 # =\ 10.18.30 # i think that no probmlem to talk about the build 10.18.50 # ok 10.19.36 Join BHSPitLappy2 [0] (n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) 10.19.46 Quit BHSPitLappy (Nick collision from services.) 10.20.40 Nick BHSPitLappy2 is now known as BHSPitLappy (n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) 10.21.00 # ST? abused for talking about the optimized build ? 10.22.28 # i really doubt it 10.22.45 # I mean, it's not really optimised is it.. ? It just has a collection of patches and 3rd party plugins added and collected in one place.. 10.23.04 # ah, yes 10.23.04 # but then that's just me being a language pedant I guess 10.24.11 # iirc Bger someone came in with a problem with the "optimised build" and someone else mentioned it was unsupported by this particular channel.. was fair I thought.. 10.24.40 # perplexity ok, but i won't call this "abusing" :) 10.25.29 # I'd have to check the logs for "abuse", but I agree that my particular example was not abuse :) 10.25.58 # ;) 10.29.27 # hmm, well someone called the optimized build "rubbish", when i asked about something, instead saying it a different way..and they went on to say other things, then i left. 10.29.39 # Jan 19 16:15:12 ST: the "optimized" build is not our baby 10.29.40 # Jan 19 16:15:30 the "optimized" build looks like a bag of shit 10.29.54 # have logs, will travel 10.30.37 # yeh? 10.31.28 # well, you just must have caught people on a bad day.. it happens.. but as I recall you wanted to edit the colour field in a wps.. 10.31.52 # i mean they could have said they didnt know.. instead of their opinions on it..ok yeh 10.32.12 # you left too early :) 10.32.14 # Jan 19 16:17:00 B4gder: ok calm down, thx for your help 10.32.14 # Jan 19 16:17:03 * ST has quit () 10.32.14 # Jan 19 16:17:23 * B4gder is as calm as a... herring 10.32.14 DBUG Enqueued KICK perplexity 10.32.14 # Jan 19 16:17:31 and by god, they're calm 10.32.14 # Jan 19 16:17:34 cool too 10.33.19 # ok, dont worry about it anymore 10.34.52 Quit akaidiot (Client Quit) 10.35.07 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.35.08 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@p54BD4AA7.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.36.27 # geek has opinion, news at eleven. 10.36.51 # ST: the biggest problem is that the optimised build starts to smell a bit like a fork after a while. 10.37.06 # and the last major third party fork resulted in some bad blood, and the death of some good ideas 10.37.39 # ultimately, it might be easier to do the work, and get most of the patches the so callde 'optimised' build inserted into rockbox 10.38.04 # ok i see 10.38.21 Nick Lost-ash is now known as ashridah (i=ashridah@220-253-120-220.VIC.netspace.net.au) 10.39.13 # besides, i'm not sure why it's called "optimised". it's not like they had the ability to do -mcpu=athlon or whatever :) 10.40.40 # ashridah maybe -O3 :) 10.41.19 # ashridah i think it's more like "more usable 10.41.21 # " 10.41.31 # value added 10.41.49 # for example the remotes 10.42.07 Quit ST () 10.45.25 # i had thought that those had already been added in 10.45.36 # or haven't we got a way of distinguishing them yet? 10.47.52 # where's HZ defined ? 10.48.07 # ashridah that's not the problem 10.48.32 # they can be added with an option as an start 10.48.55 # the problem is that h100 and h300 remotes are very different button-situation-wise 10.50.09 # i started working on logical mapping (that is to map button -> action), but i don't have time ... 10.57.44 # hm 10.59.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.07.41 # Iriver followers such as beggar 11.07.44 # Jungti1234 ? 11.08.00 # They attack me 11.08.21 # what?? 11.09.06 # Iriver's fans in Korea iriver community attack me. 11.09.17 # why? 11.09.45 # They hate that I inform LCD's problem to people. 11.10.13 # u mean the different lcds ? (the new and the old ones) ? 11.10.17 # yeah 11.10.42 # I get angry to them. 11.11.07 # i don't see any reason 11.11.08 # They don't recognize LCD's problem like iriver. 11.12.39 # reason? 11.12.46 # What reason? 11.12.55 # to attack you 11.13.22 # I don't know reason too. 11.13.32 # They attack me without reason. 11.13.47 # So, I'm angry. 11.15.26 # maybe they are iriver employees 11.15.34 # :P 11.16.16 # hmm 11.16.29 # Among them, employee is. 11.18.01 # But, there is a person who I attack in writing that I write. 11.19.21 # In writing that I write only. 11.20.06 # Jungti1234: what's your native language? 11.20.18 # hahaha um korean 11.20.29 # hmm 11.20.32 # I don't well English. 11.20.38 # sorry 11.20.41 # I think my friend speaks korean :P 11.21.07 # no wait 11.21.10 # he doesn't :P 11.21.14 # hehe What country is he? 11.21.36 # i was wrong, he's vietnamese 11.21.51 # vietnamese? ..... 11.22.12 # Korean and Vietnamese are perfectly different. 11.24.46 # hah i like every time when you say "i don't well english":) 11.24.46 # I know 11.25.17 # Jungti1234: I could not remember what country he was from 11.25.26 # I know they are different 11.25.35 # hehe 11.25.57 # huuuuu................ 11.26.10 # I want to speak well English. 11.27.17 # ak!!!!!!!!!! Korean education way mistook!! 11.27.46 # Jungti1234 what i like is that this sentence ("i don't well english) is missing the main verb 11.28.02 # yeah 11.28.03 Join t0mas [0] (n=Tomas@unaffiliated/t0mas) 11.28.15 # speak? 11.28.24 # for example :) 11.29.42 # korea isn't liveable..... 11.32.12 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@88.134.20.76) 11.32.24 # :/ 11.32.28 # hi muesli__ 11.33.03 # re Jungti1234 ;) 11.33.24 # have u been 8h online while i was sleeping? 11.33.38 Quit dwihno (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.33.52 # um? 11.34.20 # yes 11.34.31 # I don't know '8h' 11.35.01 # 8 hours 11.35.05 # ah 11.35.07 # Jungti1234: typing error :) 11.35.08 # ah lol 11.35.10 # never mind 11.35.13 # ;) 11.35.15 # :) 11.35.38 # >:( 11.35.46 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@c220-239-137-122.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 11.35.46 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m53.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 11.36.30 # Jungti1234 motivated for another ftp test? ;) 11.36.38 # yeah 11.36.46 # fine ;) 11.38.35 Quit JdGordon (Client Quit) 11.38.41 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@c220-239-137-122.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 11.51.27 Join BHSPitLappy2 [0] (n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) 11.51.46 Quit Bger ("BitchX: born to raise hell") 11.54.19 Quit BHSPitLappy (Connection timed out) 11.58.39 Quit Jungti1234 () 12.06.50 Quit kernelsensei (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.18.41 Join mozetti [0] (n=moe@p54A84D83.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.30.25 Part SteL 12.32.33 Join kernelsensei [0] (n=boris@unaffiliated/kernelsensei) 12.42.37 Join TCK- [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-234-119.dsl.pipex.com) 12.43.33 Join Philip_0729 [0] (n=Philip_0@user-203.l2.c1.dsl.pol.co.uk) 12.55.26 Join Thus0__ [0] (n=Thus0@124.111.102-84.rev.gaoland.net) 12.56.42 Quit Thus0 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12.58.57 Quit perplexity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.59.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.00.15 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ipa135.1.tellas.gr) 13.00.24 Quit tvelocity (Client Quit) 13.04.15 Quit TCK- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.06.29 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ipa135.1.tellas.gr) 13.08.17 Quit kernelsensei (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.08.32 Join kernel_sensei [0] (n=boris@lns-bzn-47f-81-56-253-161.adsl.proxad.net) 13.08.41 Nick kernel_sensei is now known as kernelsensei (n=boris@lns-bzn-47f-81-56-253-161.adsl.proxad.net) 13.25.40 Join perplexity [0] (i=heh26907@217.165.99.160) 13.26.51 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@p54863BD1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.40.35 Join SteL [0] (n=stel@slawson.plus.com) 13.44.23 Part SteL 13.45.34 Join NicoFR [0] (n=nico404@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 13.49.58 # how do i apply a .patch file to a build??? 13.51.26 # you don't.. you need to apply it to the source tree and then build it 13.51.29 # linux or windows? 13.51.31 # patches can only be applied to the source, you use the 'patch' utility 13.51.53 # you'd need the devkit for windows, or a cross compiler on linux or something to that effect 13.51.56 # in windows.. 13.52.08 # then you need the devkit 13.52.10 # i have the devkit and can build the 13.52.12 # ok 13.52.22 # then use the patch command to apply the patch 13.52.32 Join webguest16 [0] (n=864c0365@labb.contactor.se) 13.52.36 # http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man1/patch.1.html 13.55.49 Quit uwe_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.58.40 # damn thats so complicated :( 13.59.37 # aah, usually it's just a matter of going into the rockbox source toplevel directory, and running 'patch -p1 < /path/to/file.patch' 13.59.47 # if that complains that it can't find the file to patch, try -p0 instead 14.00.05 # thanks i'll try that 14.00.10 # the -p option just tells patch where you are relative to where the patch is expecting to be 14.00.34 # so -p1 is one level deep, -p0 is the same directory 14.00.34 # it just depends on how the patch was created 14.00.59 # ok 14.02.14 Join kernel_sensei [0] (n=boris@lns-bzn-47f-81-56-253-161.adsl.proxad.net) 14.05.02 # the patch is http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1411282&group_id=44306&atid=439120 how do i know what i'm meant to patch? 14.05.56 # is it asking you which file to patch? 14.06.04 # no 14.06.09 # in /rockbox/apps 14.06.21 Quit kernelsensei (Connection timed out) 14.06.22 Nick kernel_sensei is now known as kernelsensei (n=boris@lns-bzn-47f-81-56-253-161.adsl.proxad.net) 14.06.34 # hm 14.06.34 # wait 14.06.41 # 1 file outsize apps 14.07.10 # have you tried doing it in the rockbox dir? 14.07.18 # rockbox-devel or rockbox 14.07.20 # with -p0 ? 14.07.44 # because this: 14.07.44 # http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1411282&group_id=44306&atid=439120 14.07.46 # woops 14.07.50 # --- apps/screen_access.c 24 Nov 2005 00:10:10 -0000 1.16 14.07.50 # +++ apps/screen_access.c 21 Jan 2006 02:09:14 -0000 14.07.51 # that 14.07.57 # looks like it's done from the rockbox main source dir 14.08.25 # C:\Rockbox? 14.08.35 # if that's where your source is... 14.08.36 # yes 14.08.51 # k 14.14.14 # I have unzipped build from CVS into C:\Rockbox\home\guest\ as you woud for a normal build... 14.14.27 # *source not build sorry 14.15.46 # i need to know where to place the colorbmp.patch file and what syntax? to execute 14.17.37 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 14.17.39 # put the pachfile to \home\guest\rockbox 14.18.47 # and then execute in \home\guest\rockbox\ the comand "patch --binary -p0 < colorbmp.patch" 14.19.03 # I don't have that directory... :( 14.19.26 # there is a .rockbox directory uder build?? 14.19.33 # *under 14.19.56 Join dionoea [0] (n=dionoea@muscipula152.via.ecp.fr) 14.19.59 # hello 14.20.25 # i was wondering if anyone here knew of a projet proting linux to Gmini 402 ? 14.20.47 # (or any other archos handheld video players) 14.20.56 # -proting +porting 14.21.11 # what folder do you have in \home\guest\ ? 14.21.55 # apps, bootloader, build, docs, firmware, flash, fonts, gdb, tools, uisimulator 14.22.46 # ok, then put the patch to \home\guest 14.22.56 # done 14.23.29 # and execute the comand in this folder 14.24.23 # thankyou sooo much... now to try it out 14.25.03 # btw, the colorbmp patch is great 14.25.27 # yey time to start making some cool WPS's 14.26.32 Join needleboy [0] (n=554003c7@labb.contactor.se) 14.26.49 # hey everyone 14.26.54 # hello 14.27.10 # anyone knows anything regarding Linus 14.27.24 # Linus' color BMP loader? 14.27.35 # no but i think you need to add the colour bmp patch to your optimized build 14.27.44 # :) 14.27.55 # that depends 14.28.07 # he said the RWPS crashes if it tries to load a color BMP 14.28.31 # i'll have a test and see what this means... 14.28.41 # \i want to know if it'll happen whenever, or only when the RWPS is set to load the color BMP 14.28.53 # yeh i'll test that 14.29.03 # i don't have an LCD remote, so I can't check it... 14.29.07 # let me know? 14.29.09 # The RWPS probably expects mono bitmaps - so if the code doesn't handle that.... 14.29.10 # ok 14.29.19 Part dionoea 14.29.23 # building at present 14.29.48 # but the RWPS has it's own settings file 14.30.07 # thats what i thourght it wouldn't be a problem 14.30.15 # if i load a color WPS does it change the RWPS as well? 14.30.48 # anyway, if this works, it renders the ColorWPS patch useless... 14.30.59 # yep 14.31.05 # which is a bummer cause it took me a whole day to fix, and it was only 3 days ago 14.31.07 Join actionshrimp [0] (i=dave@dhcp-163-1-214-233.seh.ox.ac.uk) 14.31.16 # but it's a better option so... whatever 14.31.50 # i'm going to assume i have to heavily modify a wps to test this it may take a while 14.31.58 # no... 14.32.13 # just load one color BMP and see if it crashes the remote 14.32.23 # k 14.32.36 # just take a WPS with the ROCKbox logo, and replace the logo itself with a color one 14.34.14 # Bagder: A week or two ago, you mentioned you might look at adding bmp2rb to the build system. Are you still intending to do that? 14.35.04 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.36.41 Quit NicoFR () 14.38.48 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-131-127.pools.arcor-ip.net) 14.41.53 # colour bmps on wps work like a charm 14.42.13 # what about the remote? 14.42.17 # plug in remote and no crash 14.42.32 # does the remote still load the old RWPS? 14.42.38 # yes 14.42.48 # so the problem is only if the RWPS file itself loads color BMPs? 14.42.52 # crash when try to load colour bmps onto remote 14.42.55 # not a problem then... 14.42.59 # cool, it's in 14.43.00 # no not realy 14.43.09 # a new version in 30 minutes 14.43.16 # i'll start skinning 14.48.18 # hmm 14.48.58 # is there a transparency colour?? cos i load a white background it covers all the text.... 14.50.35 # i'll try pink, black... any other suggestions?? 14.50.37 # try the pink default 14.50.43 # that's usually it 14.50.51 # but why a background? 14.52.13 # i was going to essentially copy over a skin i made for iriver firmware and they use background images 14.53.02 # hmm. nope and nope 14.54.27 Join SteL [0] (n=stel@slawson.plus.com) 14.55.29 # hey all 14.55.38 # is there any calendar plugins for rb yet? 14.55.47 # actually, weekly timetable like plugins 14.56.12 # http://plugbox.rockbox-lounge.de/rockcalendar.htm 14.56.30 # Philip, what's the RGB value for the transparent pink? 14.57.17 # its usually 255 0 255 but i tried that and it was ........... 14.57.22 # PINK 14.57.24 # :( 14.58.31 # maybe there's no transperancy in 24bit BMPs? 14.58.34 # anyone knows? 14.59.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.04.09 # well, i think there's no transperancy yet 15.04.18 # i tried everything 15.04.58 # all 16 billion combos? 15.05.04 # :D 15.05.08 # funny 15.05.21 # is there support for it in BMPs at all??? 15.05.28 # doesn't seem like it 15.05.44 # isnt there something in the metainfo at the start of a bmp about which colour is transparent? 15.05.49 # if i save a transaprent image to BMP, then reload it in Photoshop, it just shows BG as white 15.06.50 # No, BMP files don't support tranparency. You would have to choose a random colour and hard-code that colour to mean "transparent". 15.06.55 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 15.06.55 # * preglow reappears 15.07.11 # good afternoon. 15.08.01 # i suppose it is 15.08.07 # at least there's no storm anymore 15.08.55 # I managed to "dd" an ipod firmware partition to my h140's fat32 partition last night... 15.10.23 # hahahahah 15.10.26 # I was surprised that the iriver firmware was happy to enter USB mode, even though the filesystem was corrupt. 15.10.39 # oh really? 15.10.43 # now that _is_ a surprise 15.10.44 # linuxstb: hardcode in the patch itself? 15.10.53 # i would have lost quite a bit of money in that bet 15.11.16 # needleboy: Yes. Or more accurately, in the LCD driver(s). 15.11.27 # has any1 tried the h300 optimeized build? 15.11.33 # preglow: Maybe it's because the partition table was still intact. 15.12.20 # ok, i'll ask linus about this 15.13.31 # JdGordon: i'm compiling that version 15.13.33 # why? 15.13.57 # it keeps crashing when it tries to load one of the new wps's 15.13.57 # linuxstb: well, the impression i have is that iriverfw isn't very forgiving if it comes to a broken partition 15.14.27 # So I was probably lucky because my partition was _very_ broken. If it was half-working, I guess it would have choked. 15.14.40 # probably 15.14.44 # But I of course still had the rockbox usb bootloader mode as well. 15.14.56 # which is feature of the year 15.15.47 # Yep. Apple kindly already provided that for us. 15.16.07 # needleboy: i have the nonunicode rockbox fw... could that be why? 15.16.13 # probably wouldn't even have a port if that wasn't so 15.17.07 # JdGordon: Could that be why WHAT? 15.17.11 # oh, i see 15.17.14 # yes it is 15.17.19 # hmm... ok 15.17.23 # there's new color codes in the WPS 15.17.34 # JdGordon: Is there a reason you've stuck with a non-unicode rockbox? 15.17.59 # nonunicode rockbox fw? 15.18.07 # not really... i speak english so dont need it 15.18.08 # you've stuck with a build that's older than a month? 15.18.18 # force of habit or something 15.18.33 # I only speak English, but there's no advantage to not upgrading. It doesn't hurt anything. 15.18.46 # haha 15.18.51 # i just upgrade because of all the other features 15.19.03 # i use english on all daps/computers/whatever anyway 15.19.40 # Unicode has been in Rockbox CVS since 6 December 2005 - 6 weeks is a long time in Rockbox development... 15.20.15 # happens to be the same length of tiume uve been out of the country 15.20.21 # could anyone else but Linus code in the transperency issue? 15.21.34 # * JdGordon cant find a damn reseter thingy 15.21.45 # what do you need transparency for? 15.22.50 # Linus made a patch that allows 24Bit BMPS to be used in the WPS 15.23.03 # needleboy: coding transparency is easy, just find a crazy ass shade of pink, call that transparant, and have the drawing routine NOT draw all pixels that are crazy ass pink 15.23.19 # But the BMPs loaded in the WPS now cover the text 15.23.22 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@124.60.15.86) 15.23.35 # preglow: sure thing, but i'm not a programmer, so no idea how to do this 15.23.49 # Big match!! 15.23.51 # hehe 15.23.55 # too bad i'm not the slightest bit interested, then 15.24.09 # Korea vs Greece 15.24.26 # preglow: you're not, but every color LCD user is... 15.24.26 # what sport? 15.24.31 # whatever... 15.24.33 # soccer 15.24.33 # needleboy: oh, i use a colour lcd 15.24.43 # don't much care for soccer anymore 15.24.49 # Korea 1 : 1 Greece 15.24.55 # and you don't see this as a huge step up?!?!? 15.25.17 # well, yeah, i'm not just interested enough in coding it myself 15.25.21 # i don't care very much about looks 15.25.31 # needleboy: does the wps flash with the bmps like they did 5 weeks ago when i last tryed a wps with bmps? 15.25.37 # i'm asking for help... not interest... 15.25.43 # nevermind 15.25.57 # JdGordon: What?!? 15.26.14 # needleboy: perfect situation to learn coding! 15.26.14 # :) 15.26.22 # i've started actually 15.26.24 # think of the glamour and the babes 15.26.33 # then hooray 15.26.42 # the playing screen blinks when it refreshes the screen if it had any bmps on it... does it still do that? 15.26.52 # no 15.26.58 # not that i'm aware of 15.27.01 # oh good :D 15.27.17 # JdGordon: take a look at this: http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=35654 15.27.20 # you have all the info there 15.27.27 # just clean reinstall 15.28.16 # crap... iriv is in korean for some reason.. can some1 let me know which menu option is the language? 15.29.08 # lol hold navi press navi go down one press navi iirc 15.29.57 # thanxz 15.32.50 Quit needleboy ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 15.33.54 # wtf?? imcompatible model on bubbles and brickmania? 15.35.46 # that would be old 3rd party plugins with the new plugin loader I guess 15.35.57 # they need to be modified slightly and recompiled 15.39.49 # what is the RGB value of rockbox blue?? 15.40.45 # #define LCD_DEFAULT_BG LCD_RGBPACK(182, 198, 229) /* rockbox blue */ 15.40.56 # ty 15.40.57 # Slasheri: ping? 15.41.08 Join ghode|afk [0] (i=testing@host-84-9-105-221.bulldogdsl.com) 15.42.02 Quit webguest16 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 15.42.04 Quit Rob- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.43.53 # lostlogic: pong 15.45.41 # hey, I'm trying to figure out a way to do make a seamless seek functionality on software codecs, but with clearing the pcmbuf on seek complete, I can't see a way to do it. Thoughts? 15.48.03 # ah, that is necessary to prevent old audio fragemnts playing when the seek is complete (audio is paused while seeking) 15.49.11 # Are we explicitly against playing those audio fragments as we pass them? 15.50.12 # Hmm, it would sound like weird when you release the seek button and you would hear a fragment from the previous position and right after that the playback continues at the right position 15.50.17 # *quite 15.50.56 # Slasheri: I mean more like seek-peeking like some DAPs or CD players do so you hear glimpses of audio as you pass them 15.52.27 # ah, then it would be an entirely different thing to do 15.53.01 # and then we shouldn't of course clear the pcm buffer 15.53.14 Join jackinabox^ [0] (n=who_ever@CPE-147-10-240-254.wa.bigpond.net.au) 15.53.24 # hi all 15.54.02 # !ping pls 15.54.06 # basically it seems like we're putting in a fair amount of effor to ensure dead silence during seeking by pausing playback and clearing the buffer on both sides of it, but with some tweaking we might get a useful feature by just not doing that. 15.54.13 # effort 15.55.14 # hmm, true. that would be a nice thing to try at least 15.55.45 Quit jackinabox^ (Client Quit) 15.55.56 # will play with it. otherwise I'll see if there's some other way to keep seeking clean and get the seamless that ab-repeat needs. 15.55.57 Join jackinabox^ [0] (i=jackinab@CPE-147-10-240-254.wa.bigpond.net.au) 15.56.23 # back, think i got rid of my lag 15.59.05 Part jackinabox^ 15.59.09 Quit SteL (Connection timed out) 16.01.06 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 16.02.02 # lostlogic: what, you're looking at the playback code and understanding it? 16.02.13 Quit BHSPitLappy2 (Connection timed out) 16.02.20 # preglow: somewhat :-P 16.02.22 # we have a messiah! 16.02.41 Join SteL [0] (n=stel@slawson.plus.com) 16.03.34 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) 16.09.24 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.13.59 # Slasheri: I have A fundamental question about the rockbox playback code - how many different threads are involved in audio playback, and what they each do? 16.15.20 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=billybob@adsl-67-64-105-177.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 16.16.53 # linuxstb: there are three different threads at the moment. 1) the playback core that controls buffering, 2) codec thread where audio codecs run, and 3) a separate codec thread for the voice codec 16.18.39 # Slasheri: pcmbuf and codecbuf run on the same thread? 16.19.10 # I guess that makes sense since there has to be load balancing between the two buffers kinda. 16.19.23 # So does the main thread (running the UI) only communicate with your 1) ? 16.19.25 # Slasheri: you have to memcpy the entire codec address space, plus iram, yes? 16.19.28 # Slasheri: when using voice ui 16.20.05 # lostlogic: hmm, no. codec thread keeps the pcm buffer full and audio core thread makes sure that codec buffer keeps filled 16.20.21 # preglow: yes, true 16.20.47 # good reason for me to make an elf loader :> 16.20.50 # Slasheri: ok, so the callbacks run on the codec thread technically. 16.21.01 # yes 16.21.06 # lostlogic: yep, main thread only communicates with the audio core thread 16.21.16 # dsp also runs in codec thread 16.21.18 # lostlogic: yes 16.24.48 # pcmbuf_play_stop clears the buffer, but does not pause playback (if I'm reading this right)? 16.25.34 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 16.26.12 Join uwe_ [0] (n=uwe@p5499500E.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.27.45 # well I've not gotten my desired effect yet, but it's kinda amusing to have the audio keep playing where it was during seeking. 16.27.53 # lostlogic: correct.. it doesn't pause the playback but it stops it :D so pcm dma needs to be started again 16.28.18 # hehe 16.36.32 Join DocterD [0] (n=DocterD@dslb-084-059-106-182.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.37.35 # gettin' there. 16.39.22 Quit tvelocity ("Leaving") 16.40.14 Join goa [0] (i=hd@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 16.43.27 # problems arise with synching the GUI with the seeking. that's going to take much more work :( 16.44.18 # Slasheri: how would you reproduce the bug that you put the pcmbuf_play_stop in seek_complete_callback to fix so I can make sure I don't resurrect that bug? 16.44.41 # btw 16.44.51 # is there some way to sync wps to where the pcm buffer is currently at? 16.44.57 # i'm tired of it being several seconds wrong 16.45.30 # it attempts to by calculating the pcmbuffer latency to give the WPS the place to display 16.45.38 # lostlogic: if you are going to remove it, you should also remove the pcmbuf_play_stop call from AUDIO_FF_REWIND queue event in the audio core thread 16.45.51 # then it will have effect 16.47.00 # Slasheri: actually in trying to get the desired seek peeking effect I removed the front one but not the end, and took out the pauses in gwps-common, and moved the audio_ff_rewind call into the calculation loop, but it's going to take more than I thought to keep the GUI from getting confused, and the codec from exploding from the many many ff_rewind calls. 16.47.40 # plus it becomes much harder to keep from overrunning the end of the song and stuff, so I'm nixing that particular project for now. 16.47.51 # and going back to adding a separate seamless seek audio function. 16.48.33 # hehe, true. but that sounds good :) now going to eat something 16.48.44 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-70-114-192-167.houston.res.rr.com) 16.50.15 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 16.51.00 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.52.54 # preglow: your WPS is several seconds wrong from song position? 16.56.04 Join kernel_sensei [0] (n=boris@lns-bzn-47f-81-56-253-161.adsl.proxad.net) 16.58.01 Quit kernelsensei (Connection timed out) 16.59.02 Nick kernel_sensei is now known as kernelsensei (n=boris@lns-bzn-47f-81-56-253-161.adsl.proxad.net) 16.59.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.01.56 # lostlogic: i assume so, since it track position indicator ends several seconds before the track is at the end 17.02.05 # s/it/the/ 17.02.32 # hmm, it probably stops moving too soon, because there are no more decode events, and decode events trigger the actual updates. 17.04.19 # right 17.04.24 # still, doesn't look too pretty 17.04.36 # does it stop even longer before when crossfading is enabled, then? 17.04.55 Quit Jungti1234 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.05.05 # preglow: not sure -- haven't used crossfade yet. I'm gonna see if I can make it update whenever the latency changes as well 17.05.54 Join G-G-G-Gesus [0] (n=flamesfa@d199-126-221-124.abhsia.telus.net) 17.10.30 Join needleboy [0] (n=554003c7@labb.contactor.se) 17.11.17 Quit needleboy (Client Quit) 17.13.25 # seems like there are several variables that belong in IRAM in pcm related code... the interrupt handler is in IRAM, so should the variables and functions that it calls in the usual case. 17.19.54 Join kernel_sensei [0] (n=boris@lns-bzn-47f-81-56-253-161.adsl.proxad.net) 17.19.59 Join vger_ [0] (n=henrico@cn-mss-cb01-2760.dial.kabelfoon.nl) 17.20.12 Quit kernelsensei (Nick collision from services.) 17.20.47 Quit thegeek_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.21.02 # Okay, I can't seem to do Makes any more. 17.22.31 Join BHSPitLappy2 [0] (n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) 17.23.33 # With a fresh CVS update, in a clean build directory, I get "Missing Separator". 17.24.56 # hmm, might be able to register a watermark callback that would update as the DMA empties teh remaining buffer. 17.26.11 # Paul_The_Nerd: Do "make V=1" to see exactly where the error is. 17.26.49 # Okay 17.29.38 # preliminary results say that IRAMing the DMA callback related code gives a statistically significant performance improvement. 17.29.46 # Makefile:1: *** missing separator. Stop. 17.29.47 # make[1]: *** [rocks] Error 2 17.29.50 Join jborn__ [0] (n=jborn@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 17.29.51 # Hrm 17.29.53 # Ah, gotcha 17.30.19 # Thanks, just after pasting it I realized where my problem is. Forgot I had that extra mpeg2 stuff still there. 17.30.49 Quit JoeBorn (Nick collision from services.) 17.30.55 Nick jborn__ is now known as JoeBorn (n=jborn@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 17.32.45 # Or, not. 17.33.14 # * Paul_The_Nerd wishes he were more knowledgeable about GCC / Make / etc. 17.34.34 # sorry to bother you guys, but i was wondering if there's some screenshots of the rockbox/the ui 17.34.59 # The UI is pretty much just text based. 17.35.36 # oh ok 17.35.55 # Linuxstb: CC xlcd.c AR+RANLIB /home/DarkkOne/rockbox-devel/h120/libplugin.a Makefile:1: *** missing separator. Stop. 17.36.10 Quit BHSPitLappy (Connection timed out) 17.37.00 Join kernelsensei [0] (n=boris@unaffiliated/kernelsensei) 17.38.22 Quit kernel_sensei (Connection timed out) 17.38.25 # Paul_The_Nerd: I'm guessing it's your apps/plugins/Makefile that's somehow bad. 17.39.01 # Try doing "cvs update" in your apps/ directory, and see if it tells you if there were any conflicts. 17.39.45 # I would assume a C is a conflict? I swear that in the past it was actually somewhat verbose about what conflicted.. 17.39.50 Join Rob- [0] (n=robbie@haylott.plus.com) 17.43.47 # c is a conflict 17.43.57 # Yeah 17.43.59 # it's never been very verbose 17.44.23 # I swear I'd had one in the past that told me a little more about it, but maybe I'm confusing CVS and patch. 17.44.27 # Ah well, all resolved now 17.44.51 # Paul_The_Nerd: the first time you cvs up with a conflict it talks about the merge failing, but after that, it's not making new conflicts so it just shows the file as 'C' status. 17.45.11 # Aaah. Gotcha 17.46.01 # how does 3% boost improvement for ~250 bytes of IRAM in pcm_playback.c and pcmbuf.c sound? 17.48.29 Quit DocterD (Remote closed the connection) 17.50.10 Quit ender` (" The Web is a procrastination apparatus: It can absorb as much time as is required to ensure that you won't get any real work) 17.52.40 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) 17.55.06 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-10-105.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) 17.58.52 Quit G-G-G-Gesus () 18.01.16 Join dpassen1 [0] (n=dpassen1@resnet-233-61.resnet.UMBC.EDU) 18.04.42 Part Paul_The_Nerd 18.06.43 Join DocterD [0] (n=DocterD@dslb-084-059-089-136.pools.arcor-ip.net) 18.06.56 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-154-160-47.bna.bellsouth.net) 18.08.18 Join webguest66 [0] (n=0cad6dbb@labb.contactor.se) 18.08.57 # lostlogic: I don't think anyone could complain about that :) 18.09.52 # :) still on the hunt in this area of code for similar "low hanging fruit" 18.13.51 # lostlogic: Hmm, have you checked how much there are currently iram left in the main code? 18.14.09 Quit BHSPitLappy2 (Success) 18.14.23 Join b0br [0] (n=d5a8b399@labb.contactor.se) 18.15.14 # Slasheri: iend in rockbox.map is at 8188 here, which says there's still 16k left right? 18.16.02 # hmm, interesting.. just a moment 18.16.02 # or have to count stack too so that's only 7k? 18.16.11 # yes, stacks also 18.16.14 # 7k left. 18.16.25 # ok, so still plenty of iram left.. 18.16.48 Join Benacool [0] (i=Benacool@Toronto-HSE-ppp3750972.sympatico.ca) 18.17.36 # that's good then 18.18.20 # Slasheri: in order to keep the playback updating as tracks end, I'd like to add another watermark that won't always be set (the current one is always set, just set in different places), this watermark will be used to bridge the gap between when codec decoding of a song ends, and when the playing of the next song begins 18.18.37 # anybody knows, how difficult it would be to write instrument tuner for RB, something like this: http://www.fmjsoft.com/chromatia.html ? 18.18.44 Join BHSPitLappy2 [0] (n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) 18.19.05 # hmm, nope.. i just checked by creating a large static char array and it seems to be there is only little over 2k of iram left 18.19.49 # weird... why does .stackend show a188 here? 18.19.58 # lostlogic: hmm, interesting. please do so if you can make it work :) 18.20.09 # Slasheri: cool, I'm workin' on it. 18.21.17 # static char filler[7800] IDATA_ATTR; 18.21.28 # just fit into IRAM here no complaints, are our compilers that different? 18.21.59 # weird.. i just tryid static char filler[3000] IBSS_ATTR; and that wouldn't fit 18.22.01 Join gtkspert [0] (n=gtkspert@203-59-207-7.dyn.iinet.net.au) 18.22.51 # (that in playback.c) 18.22.56 # I wonder which of these situations is more similar to the 'official' build. 18.23.15 Quit DangerousDan ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 18.25.28 Quit DocterD ("Leaving") 18.25.48 # lostlogic: Do you have an ARM compiler installed? It's very easy to break ipod builds by changing iram usage. 18.26.01 # interesting.. i have .stackend at 0xb49c.. so little less than 3k of iram left.. 18.26.28 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-70-114-192-167.houston.res.rr.com) 18.27.48 # linuxstb: yeah, lemme check. 18.28.17 Quit BHSPitLappy (Connection timed out) 18.28.22 Part kro 18.30.38 # linuxstb: I should probably get a 4.0 arm compiler setup 18.30.58 # stackend on ipod build here is add0 18.31.28 # _even with_ my filler array in. 18.31.51 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A46A84.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.32.02 # 8f58 otherwise, so it looks pretty clear with gcc-3 18.35.57 Quit Paul_The_Nerd ("Leaving.") 18.43.59 # lostlogic: what I don't get is that the stack is supposed to be 8k 18.44.10 # but I have seen bigger arrays 18.44.24 # in a struct declared localy to a method 18.44.27 # and it doesn't crash 18.44.36 # I don't know how this work 18.45.16 # mirak: if they aren't in IRAM it doesn't matter 18.45.23 # mirak: they are statically allocated from system ram 18.46.21 # what do you mean staticaly ? 18.46.52 # I mean that whenever that plugin or piece of code is loaded, that array's memory is allocated 18.47.32 # in wich memory arrea is it allocated ? 18.47.49 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=5343d4aa@labb.contactor.se) 18.48.01 Quit Benacool (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.48.02 # for plugisn in the plugin buffer in SDRAM, for the system just out of the general SDRAM pool, afaik 18.48.12 # mirak: Do you have an example in the current Rockbox CVS that does that? 18.49.27 # linuxstb_: well in the mpeg2 decoding stuff I did there is a struct wich contains an array of size 16k 18.49.58 # and hem 18.50.00 # wait 18.50.19 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 18.51.13 Quit ghode|afk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.51.40 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) 18.52.13 # linuxstb: ok my bad it's not 18.52.27 # it uses the fake malloc 18.52.46 # though this part needs to be put in iram 18.52.59 # I don't know how, but xvid was better designed for that 18.53.19 # with xvid a little buffer was allocated on the stac and the idct was processed on it 18.53.39 # actually with mpeg2 it's done in the normal ram 18.54.31 # that's certainly why the result are disapointing for mpeg2 18.55.06 Quit ender` (Client Quit) 18.55.54 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 18.56.04 Quit Philip_0729 ("bye everybody") 18.57.29 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 18.59.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.00.42 Join Mmmm [0] (n=mscarrat@cpc2-hem13-3-1-cust77.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 19.09.50 Join RotAtoR [0] (n=e@12-210-82-91.client.insightBB.com) 19.10.19 Quit BHSPitLappy2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.20.59 Join BHSPitLappy2 [0] (n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) 19.21.11 Quit BHSPitLappy (Nick collision from services.) 19.21.14 # Slasheri: Ok, so I've got the better UI update whatzit basically working but I don't see where in the code to deregister my callback to make sure that it is always deregistered when the next track starts playing 19.21.19 Nick BHSPitLappy2 is now known as BHSPitLappy (n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) 19.24.38 # nvm 19.29.03 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=5343d4aa@labb.contactor.se) 19.50.11 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC") 19.50.14 Quit linuxstb (Remote closed the connection) 19.50.34 Join linuxstb [0] (n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 19.53.09 Quit BHSPitLappy (Connection timed out) 19.56.03 Join DangerousDan [0] (n=Miranda@newtpulsifer.campus.luth.se) 19.56.53 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-70-114-192-167.houston.res.rr.com) 19.58.33 Join ghode|afk [0] (i=testing@host-84-9-105-221.bulldogdsl.com) 20.07.26 Quit gtkspert () 20.15.49 Part SteL 20.17.21 Part Paul_The_Nerd 20.19.03 Quit Mmmm () 20.22.27 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 20.30.17 Join einhirn_ [0] (n=Miranda@p54863BD1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.39.33 # b0br: not too hard, but it will require quite a bit of dsp knowledge 20.39.43 # and people with that aren't too common around here 20.47.58 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) 20.48.55 Quit einhirn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.49.40 Join alphakiller [0] (n=bohas@200.162.22.132) 20.59.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.01.08 Quit CrookedRain () 21.02.09 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 21.02.42 # I've been working on adding bmp2rb a little more, and would like to commit something to CVS to keep the momentum going. I've limited the bmp2rb usage to creating native bitmaps for the main lcd - so this means that it doesn't support mono bitmaps for the main LCD (i.e. the icons), or bitmaps for the LCD remote. 21.04.39 # So there is an apps/bitmaps directory which contains native-format bitmaps (as .bmp files), and also an apps/plugins/bitmaps/ directory for native bitmaps used by plugins. 21.06.04 # gah, the problem is that the audio threads completely forget about the outgoing track's state once the codec is done decoding it. So either I have to hold onto that state for longer, or I have to have the WPS do the updates for the tail-end of the song. 21.06.05 Nick jelle-k|offline is now known as jelle-k (n=jelle-k@jelle-online.xs4all.nl) 21.07.48 Join thegeek_ [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 21.11.47 Join BHSPitLappy2 [0] (n=Steve-O@adsl-66-138-75-120.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 21.12.01 Quit BHSPitLappy (Nick collision from services.) 21.12.10 Quit alphakiller () 21.12.21 Nick BHSPitLappy2 is now known as BHSPitLappy (n=Steve-O@adsl-66-138-75-120.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 21.13.18 Quit JoeBorn ("Leaving") 21.15.10 # Patch is here: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/bitmaps.diff 21.15.23 # Plus the new bmp files and Makefiles: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/bitmaps.tgz 21.16.33 # ? 21.16.40 # plugin bitmap loader? 21.18.09 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.18.19 Join FingerSoup [0] (i=icechat5@S010600508df503dc.vs.shawcable.net) 21.18.28 # linuxstb_: sup 21.18.35 # No. It's a patch to the Rockbox build system that uses bmp2rb at compile-time to automatically convert .bmp files to .c files - in the appropriate format for that target. 21.18.37 Nick jelle-k is now known as jelle-k|offline (n=jelle-k@jelle-online.xs4all.nl) 21.19.25 # erp!!! new plugin code broke my connect 4 plugin - I get an error with TEST_PLUGIN_API 21.19.34 # when compiling for sim... 21.19.41 # any ideas on fix? 21.19.49 Join BHSPitLappy2 [0] (n=Steve-O@adsl-66-138-75-120.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 21.20.14 Quit BHSPitLappy (Nick collision from services.) 21.20.24 Nick BHSPitLappy2 is now known as BHSPitLappy (n=Steve-O@adsl-66-138-75-120.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 21.22.20 Join BHSPitLappy2 [0] (n=Steve-O@adsl-66-138-75-120.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 21.22.50 Quit BHSPitLappy (Nick collision from services.) 21.22.51 # linuxstb_ 21.22.51 # MAKE in bitmaps 21.22.51 # BMP2RB rockboxlogo.220x68x16.bmp 21.22.51 DBUG Enqueued KICK Paprica 21.22.51 # ./rockboxlogo.220x68x16.bmp: 1: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting ")") 21.22.51 # make[2]: *** [/home/guest/rockbox-bleeding/simu/apps/bitmaps/rockboxlogo.220x68x 21.22.52 *** Alert Mode level 1 21.22.52 # 16.c] Error 2 21.22.54 # make[1]: *** [libbitmaps] Error 2 21.22.55 # make: *** [all] Error 2 21.23.07 Quit thegeek (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.23.17 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.23.22 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 21.23.26 Nick linuxstb__ is now known as linuxstb (n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 21.23.29 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 21.23.29 # * amiconn appears 21.23.55 # FingerSoup: Remove TEST_PLUGIN_API - it doesn't exist anymore 21.24.46 # with all these new games coming, we might want to move all game plugins to a separate menu :> 21.25.09 # * amiconn wonders about Slasheri's codec lader fix 21.25.41 # The old code should behave *exactly* the same 21.25.42 # amiconn: the problem was that size was reduced to 0.. so the header check failed 21.25.45 # no 21.26.09 # ok, thanks 21.26.12 # that header check (including the struct size check) was new 21.26.15 # AH 21.26.18 # :) 21.26.20 # * amiconn silly 21.26.28 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=Steve-O@adsl-66-138-75-120.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 21.28.33 # Slasheri: There was s slight chance that it worked before - if the codec did wrap in the buffer 21.29.07 Quit einhirn_ ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 21.29.17 # Somehow I overlooked that size was manipulated... 21.29.24 # amiconn: hmm, it worked before fine 21.29.36 # No, I mean before your fix 21.29.44 # ah, hmm 21.30.19 # yes, i very slight chance :) 21.30.21 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@p54863BD1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.30.22 # *a 21.31.55 # I think I finally have updates->end of track working. 21.32.10 # sounds nice :) 21.32.22 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=5343d4aa@labb.contactor.se) 21.32.23 # I'll want you to review this before I commit if you are willing... 21.32.24 # do you have a patch? 21.32.30 # sounds good 21.32.31 # hehe, yeah, willbe posting soon. 21.32.34 # :) 21.32.35 # Paprica: Did you re-run ../tools/configure? 21.32.46 # ah no 21.32.48 # =] 21.32.53 *** Alert Mode OFF 21.33.10 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-70-114-192-167.houston.res.rr.com) 21.33.20 # Slasheri: btw, I pulled out that pcmbuf_play_stop in the seek_complete_callback and it doesn't seem to let any 'old' audio sneak through. 21.33.20 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=chatzill@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 21.34.12 # lostlogic: ok, probably that isn't issue as long as the buffer will be clear at some other place 21.34.13 # hey linuxstb__ , linuxstb_ , and linuxstb 21.34.22 # *ed 21.34.25 Quit linuxstb__ (Client Quit) 21.34.53 # Slasheri: yeah, wps pauses, and clears at the beginning of a seek, and during pause, no data is allowed into the buffer, so I'm fairlu sure that is OK (plus it lets me make AB repeat seamless work :)) 21.35.51 # Slasheri: but yeah, wasn't some of your fixes supposed to make playback stop if you skip to a non-buffered track? 21.38.29 # preglow: yes, at least while skipping. But still, there can be about half a second delay 21.38.38 Quit linuxstb (Nick collision from services.) 21.39.04 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=5343d4aa@labb.contactor.se) 21.39.42 # it doesn't stop at all here 21.39.45 # with yesterdays build 21.39.50 # behaves just like before 21.40.02 # i skip to another track, and it continues playing until the new ones has been loaded 21.41.08 # http://lostlogicx.com/transfer/rockbox/end-of-track-updates.patch @ Slasheri , preglow 21.42.20 # what's it for? 21.42.23 # lostlogic: thanks, i will look that soon (maybe tomorrow) 21.42.38 # preglow: makes the track status keep updating to the end of track 21.42.43 # instead of stopping with a few seconds left 21.42.46 # goodgood 21.42.54 # i have no idea how playback and buffering works, so don't think i can be of much use reviewing it, though 21.43.07 # preglow: just wanted you to test since you complained ;) 21.43.13 # will 21.44.43 Quit BHSPitLappy2 (Success) 21.46.29 Quit DangerousDan (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.46.48 Join BHSPitLappy2 [0] (n=Steve-O@66-169-135-162.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) 21.51.32 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=billybob@adsl-66-141-167-152.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 21.55.08 Quit CoCoLUS (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.56.30 Join CoCoLUS [0] (n=coco@h081217139221.dyn.cm.kabsi.at) 21.59.37 Quit BHSPitLappy (Connection timed out) 22.00.33 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 22.02.07 Join solexx [0] (n=jrschulz@c174088.adsl.hansenet.de) 22.03.31 Join DangerousDan [0] (n=Miranda@newtpulsifer.campus.luth.se) 22.03.51 Join NicoFR [0] (n=nico404@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 22.06.01 Quit thegeek_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.06.33 Quit b0br ("CGI:IRC") 22.06.49 Join thegeek_ [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 22.08.23 Join SteL [0] (n=stel@slawson.plus.com) 22.09.22 Quit Matze (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.13.56 Quit solexx_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.19.12 Quit jborn_ ("open.neurostechnology.com") 22.19.39 Quit vger_ ("BitchX: No windows left!") 22.24.34 Quit thegeek (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.25.55 Quit thegeek_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.38.08 Quit SteL ("Chatzilla 0.9.67+ [SeaMonkey 1.0b/2005121900]") 22.44.17 # lostlogic: the patch looks good, however it doesn't work always with some hard special situations, like seeking when the playback is at the very end (try just seeking to the beginning, the elapsed time goes wrong as the track changes) 22.44.27 # but i think you should commit it :) 22.44.58 Join Pi___ [0] (n=Pi@80-44-83-65.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 22.45.25 # ok, I will take a few minutes to see if I can improve that brokenness, and commit it. thanks 22.46.23 # why are pcmbuf_read_index and pcmbuf_write_index declared volatile? Do multiple threads read and write them to make that declaration necessary? It makes some of the compiled code slower than it would otherwise be. 22.46.24 # 'Improve that brokenness' sounds ambiguous ;) 22.46.36 # amiconn: yep, I'm going to make sure the elapsed time is wrong at all times. 22.46.51 # that can be hard to fix if we want to allow seeking of the previous track.. or you could just ignore the seeking if we are too end of the track 22.47.03 # amiconn: hehe :D 22.47.13 # It sounds like you're trying to make it a better form of broken. 22.47.21 # Slasheri: not sure I understand your last line 22.47.49 # lostlogic: hmm, in fact i can try to improve that in future 22.47.52 # silly question, what does << do? 22.47.59 # Pi___: logical left shift 22.48.09 # or arithmetic 22.48.16 # in practice, at least 22.48.27 # :) left shift, in short. 22.48.54 # thanks though i dont know what it means, i can google that 22.49.35 # lostlogic: it might be good to keep the indexes as volatile because dma interrupt modifies the read index at least.. but i am not sure if there is any real reason for that 22.49.41 # it just shifts the bit pattern of a variable left 22.49.57 # got it thanks 22.50.13 # lostlogic: yep, seems to be unnecessary 22.50.29 # i just wanted to be sure ;) 22.50.48 # Slasheri: yeah, in concept they _are_ volatile... but inpractice the volatile declaration only makes the interrupt handler code slower and doesn't seem to impact the other uses of the variables. 22.51.11 # ah.. then just go ahead and remove the volatile declarations 22.51.20 # cool 22.51.25 # those in pcmbuf.c seems to be useless at least 22.51.55 # I wonder if it's enough to make a statistically significant difference :) 22.52.02 # hehe :) 22.57.03 # the problem with this kind of testing is that I end up making myself sick of whatever song I choose as a test track for the day :(] 22.57.51 # good excuse to look up new music 22.58.48 # Slasheri: is most of this audio engine all your code? 22.59.12 # lostlogic: playback.c and pcmbuf.c mostly at least 22.59.13 # there's some really impressive stuff in here. 22.59.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.59.18 # cool 22.59.19 # hmm :D 22.59.56 # just found a way to remove very little tiny pop when seeking 23.10.30 # lostlogic: Thanks for removing my accidental Makefile commit. 23.10.50 # linuxstb: Consequently, that's the one that caused my Makefile to conflict. :-P 23.11.14 # * linuxstb bows head in shame 23.11.36 # Hehehe 23.11.47 # Good job the build system doesn't test "make clean". 23.11.50 # Oddly enough, it's because I'd added mpeg2 as well. 23.11.58 # linuxstb: yeah, I was surprised it didn't 23.12.54 Join akaidiot [0] (i=nope@c-731d70d5.020-58-6b736411.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 23.13.38 # simply doing rm -rf * is way faster 23.14.11 # * Paul_The_Nerd agrees. 23.14.15 # rm -rf [b-z]* apps if you don't want to kill autoconf.h and Makefile 23.14.30 # But it's not good for sims if you've set up a nice archos directory. 23.14.30 # the build system always do configure 23.15.22 Quit DangerousDan (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.15.27 # Bagder: Can I interest you in my bmp2rb build-system patch? 23.15.57 # sure! 23.16.14 # Check the logs from a couple of hours ago. 23.16.18 Nick Thus0__ is now known as Thus0 (n=Thus0@124.111.102-84.rev.gaoland.net) 23.17.34 # It's not complete (it only deals with native bitmaps for the main LCD), but if my approach seems sensible, then I would like to commit it as it is now. 23.18.08 # So bitmaps for the remote, and mono bitmaps used by all targets are still in the .c files. 23.19.21 # still a first step! 23.19.49 # Yep, and it deals with the biggest bitmaps. The ones remaining in the source are relatively tiny. 23.20.47 # The only thing we need to get right is the directory structure. I'm thinking that we need extra directories (or subdirectories in the bitmaps/ directories) to deal with the different formats. 23.22.40 # you mean if a single bmp is converted to more than one format? 23.23.34 # That's the problem. Not only could it be a different format, but it could need a different name. The example is the logo - we have a mono logo for the archos devices, and the same mono logo for the iriver remote. 23.24.07 # When that bitmap is used on the archos, we want it called "rockboxlogo", but when it is used for the remote, it should be something like "rockboxremotelogo" 23.24.31 # You could create a prefix setup. 23.24.54 # Width_Height_Depth_Name, so they aren't named for their platform, but what screen they fit? 23.25.01 # I'm starting to think that it would be cleaner to just have multiple copies of the .bmp files, rather than making the build system too complex. 23.25.23 # I agree 23.25.28 # Paul_The_Nerd: Yes, that's how the .bmp files themselves are named. But they need to be converted to a common name for use in Rockbox. 23.26.13 # i.e. we have rockboxlogo.160x57x2.bmp, rockboxlogo.112x37x1.bmp and they are both converted to rockboxlogo[] in the .c file 23.27.02 # Aah 23.27.19 # The problem is that you'd use the 112x37x1 logo for the remote? 23.27.19 # I think your current effort is a good approach and should be committed 23.27.54 # the irivers could use a somewhat bigger logo for the remote anyway ;-) 23.28.25 Quit eEye (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.29.02 # So we should extend it to have three bitmap directories - mono, native and remote - and not worry if the same .bmp files are duplicated? 23.30.00 # I kinda like that way. 23.30.04 # isn't it just remote and main? 23.30.48 # linuxstb: What about, say, color remotes or other things? 23.31.10 # No - we have mono bitmaps (i.e. the icons) which should always be mono, to allow for transparency and change of fg colour. 23.31.18 # ah, right 23.32.08 # so mono native and remote it is 23.32.09 # Paul_The_Nerd: Yes, colour remotes will simply be the addition of a fourth directory when that time comes. 23.32.23 # or having the remote ones be in color 23.33.16 # Any preferences for directory structure? Should it be bitmaps_mono, bitmaps_native and bitmaps_remote or bitmaps/mono, bitmaps/native and bitmaps/remote ? 23.33.31 # I like bitmaps/mono 23.33.39 # I like bitmaps/blah too 23.33.55 # So do I (even though it means adjusting my patch). 23.33.59 # Hehehe 23.34.31 # And I guess the same for the plugin bitmaps... 23.35.49 # yes 23.37.14 # OK, I'll extend the patch to do that. 23.41.09 Quit linuxstb ("CGI:IRC") 23.42.08 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 23.43.30 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (i=Steve-O@adsl-66-141-167-152.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 23.43.32 # Bagder: There are potentially 4 different bitmap formats - the remote may have a different mono format than the main 23.44.15 # This will very probably happen for H300 23.44.53 # Yes, we can have remote_mono and remote_native directories. 23.45.13 # Are you happy with the approach though? 23.46.04 # * Bagder goes to bed 23.46.05 # However, in case of the H300 remote, native==mono 23.46.07 Quit Bagder ("Off to search for that connect-resetting peer guy!") 23.47.22 # amiconn: and potentially the future iaudio remote 128*96 23.50.04 # linuxstb: How does your bmp patch work? 23.50.56 # I think that we might be able to go without separate source bitmaps for different depths (mono vs. native), we'll probably only need different sizes 23.51.28 # Download this file: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/bitmaps.tgz 23.51.28 # The difference will be the switch used when invoking bmp2rb 23.52.02 # This is the apps/bitmaps directory (and Makefile and SOURCES) and also the apps/plugins/bitmaps/ directory. The actual changes to the build system probably aren't what you're interested in. 23.52.31 # automatically converting from colour to mono wont always be pretty 23.52.33 # I am planning to extend that to have subdirectories for the different types of bitmaps - mono, native, remote_mono and remote_native 23.52.50 # Each of those four subdirectories will be processed with their own bmp2rb command. 23.55.05 # Hmmmmmm 23.55.21 # linuxstb: Where is that makebmp.inc ? 23.55.32 # http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/bitmaps.diff 23.55.43 # Just switching computers - brb 23.55.46 Quit linuxstb ("Leaving") 23.56.46 Join linuxstb [0] (n=5343d4aa@labb.contactor.se) 23.58.47 # re