--- Log for 22.01.106 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 7 days and 17 hours ago 00.00.06 # linuxstb: (unrelated to the bmp patch itself) I am wondering why you use 3 different bitmaps for the 3 different states in sudoku, and why you're using native bitmaps 00.01.04 # Why not? 00.01.13 # The inverse variant could be simply created with a draw mode, and the alternative colours for the pre-filled numbers with foreground / background colours 00.01.15 Quit BHSPitLappy2 (Connection timed out) 00.01.43 # Of course this requires mono bitmaps 00.01.50 # That's only because the current bitmaps are unimaginative. The colour version at least could be nicer. 00.05.08 # The patch looks promising 00.05.40 # One thing is that I would like the bitmap width and height macros as part of the build process instead of hardcoding them 00.06.07 # (e.g. in icon.h) 00.06.40 # what is seamless seeking? 00.06.54 # preglow: seeking where the audio doesn't ever stop 00.06.57 # kinda like gapless 00.07.00 # but for seek 00.08.00 # amiconn: Yes, so would I. But I think that can be added later. It would mean producing a new .h file, which is included by the files using libbitmaps.a and would introduce a nice dependency problem. 00.08.40 # Why/how? 00.09.53 # There are already some dynamic .h files in the build system 00.10.40 # OK, it should be fine then. 00.11.20 Quit Pi___ (Remote closed the connection) 00.11.21 # Okay, not some, but one, lang.h 00.12.15 # You might need a special workaround using touch, the same way as for lang.h 00.12.17 # linuxstb: it actually doesn't seem like retailos uses clickwheel acceleration 00.12.39 # hi linuxstb / preglow 00.12.42 # BHSPitMonkey: hi 00.12.55 # preglow: I haven't really paid attention. 00.12.55 # anything new? 00.13.18 # linuxstb: just thinking of whether i should bother trying to implement it 00.13.31 # if apple hasn't, i see no reason to do it myself, heh 00.14.14 # No, I'm not convinced it will be needed. I think the wheel works very nicely now. 00.14.38 # retailos's accel. is very handy with very large playlists :) 00.16.12 # does it have accel, then? 00.16.22 # if so, it doesn't apply everywhere 00.16.43 # oh, it does indeed have it in list view 00.17.24 # hrmph 00.17.33 # i really think we'll need some special handling of the wheel some day 00.17.51 # or we'll need a really, really high event density for the biggest acceleration values 00.17.57 Quit FingerSoup ("Relax, its only ONES and ZEROS!") 00.21.23 # i'm pretty sure podzilla has wheel accel. too 00.21.27 # amiconn: As I said, I agree the bitmap sizes should be in dynamically created .h files, but I would prefer to do that after "stage 1" is done. I don't like doing too many changes at once. 00.21.41 # but I don't currently have a working loader on my nano...grr 00.22.02 # So what's wrong with the Rockbox bootloader? 00.22.04 Join infamis [0] (n=444e7c9e@labb.contactor.se) 00.22.19 # BHSPitMonkey: Have you tried the Rockbox ipod bootloader? 00.22.37 # Paul_The_Nerd: that's not the issue 00.22.52 # What do you mean? 00.22.56 # You said you don't have a working loader... 00.23.23 # What skills do you need in order to working on a bootloader? iAudio port 00.24.38 # infamis: Hello, better to re-ask when LinusN will be around 00.24.55 # he is the one working on it 00.26.12 # did you already take a look at iaudio components? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IaudioX5HardwareComponents 00.26.23 # ok. I just wanna do something; I can do x86 asm (though I haven't even touched it in years) & c++ ; it's hard to decipher the iAudio port status from the twiki 00.26.38 # yea, been through those pages a lot 00.26.59 # infamis: You need to be able to find a way to compile and run your own code on your iaudio. 00.27.20 # BHSPitMonkey: What's the issue then? 00.27.28 # don't worry about it... 00.28.17 # * Paul_The_Nerd is confused. 00.31.02 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-123-52.VIC.netspace.net.au) 00.31.12 # infamis: do you have any hardware / reverse engineering skills? 00.33.19 Join Paul_The_Ner1 [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-70-114-192-167.houston.res.rr.com) 00.33.47 # not really. 5 years ago I started out trying to make my own (protected mode) os in all x86 asm, but then got a job as a php/asp developer and haven't even touched asm; I stll have aLOT to learn if I'm gonna do something; I just really wanna get into hardware programming 00.34.45 # ok 00.34.52 # I've done the x86 OS too 00.35.01 # but with only a simple bootloader 00.35.04 # and a C kernel 00.35.35 # never got past the virtual memory and tasks point :) 00.35.55 Quit darkless (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.36.08 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48.adsl.vby.tiscali.dk) 00.36.10 Quit Strath (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.36.11 # that's cool; I never got passed step 1 though....building the os 00.36.19 Join Strath [0] (n=mike@dpc67143207026.direcpc.com) 00.36.26 # yeah, but in asm it's a hell of a lot harder to do... 00.36.27 # lol 00.36.58 # in C it's not that hard... and there are a lot of docs about it all over the net 00.37.22 # but for your iAudio bootloader... you really need some hardware skills to do that 00.37.40 # at least you need a way to restore from failed attempts 00.38.09 # yea; asm was my "first love"...haha. I was never really serious with it so I never really did anything good with it. that's why I'm trying to really do some stuff, or at least learn from what you guys are doing 00.39.01 # ghehe, don't count me as a core developer... I only did BMP loading and image support for the WPS 00.39.23 # don't have enough time (and skills) to really do the rockbox core stuff 00.39.46 # and there aren't a lot of devs here touching or touched bootloader things :) 00.40.30 # I don't even see how you would start messing with a bootloader! 00.40.36 # it is Linus' think :) 00.40.47 # *thing 00.40.49 # hehe, true :) 00.40.59 # infamis: you can read the iriver bootloader... 00.41.08 # Well, unless you've got the appropriate means of recovering a bricked device, you tend to have to get it right on the first try. 00.41.09 # for irivers and iaudio at least 00.41.19 # and linuxstb and preglow for ipods 00.41.39 # Paul_The_Nerd: nobody is ever sure of getting these kind of things right in 1 shot 00.41.39 # yea I've d/l'd the source but haven't really dwelved into yet 00.41.41 Join nave7693 [0] (i=evan@c-71-198-247-170.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 00.42.04 # hello 00.42.11 # t0mas: I know, I'm just pointing out that bootloader coding is riskier than the usual. 00.42.45 # infamis: I don't know anything about the iAudio... but have you checked if the original f/w is encrypted in some way? 00.42.47 # Can anyone tell me how to use the bootloader image I complied myself from cVS? 00.42.50 # It depends on the device though. On the ipod there was no risk at all. 00.42.57 # nave7693: have you checked the md5? 00.43.15 # nave7693: For what player? 00.43.18 # t0mas: it is not even the right size. it's 40K and firmware_flash will not accept it 00.43.21 # nave7693: for which platform did you compile the bootloader? 00.43.21 # linuxstb: I still don't know how that ipod thing works... can you restore the flash w/o software? 00.43.31 # linuxstb: I have an archos recorder V1, 2M 00.43.32 # nave7693: then don't use it. 00.43.33 # 2MB 00.43.51 # t0mas: tell the truth, I wouldn't even know what to look for; 00.44.30 # t0mas: The bootloader isn't in flash - it's just written to the first partition on the disk. Apple have their own bootloader (with an emergency usb disk mode) in flash - and we never touch the flash. So Apple's bootloader loads our bootloader which loads Rockbox. 00.44.43 # ah ok 00.44.55 # and if it doesn't work, we just put a new loader on the disk 00.45.01 # nice... 00.45.03 # exactly. 00.45.22 # it sort of make sense though, since bootbox has to me small to accomodate rombox, which is huge now 00.45.40 # I just don't know how I can flash bootbox + rombox to my recorder. 00.46.03 # yay, AB-repeat is committed (no single button mode active), and I'm almost in sync with CVS! 00.46.16 # nave7693: Have you found the instructions on the wiki? 00.46.41 # infamis: you can start with adding links to the firmware files to the wiki 00.46.47 # lostlogic: congratulations 00.47.11 # linuxstb: does the rb bootloader boot linux and apple? 00.47.16 # and what the relationship is with those and the firmware_rec.bin image which is 256K 00.47.31 # BHSPitMonkey: Yes. 00.47.37 # t0mas: the "problem" is we don't know at wich state Linus is for the iaudi bootloader 00.47.42 # (if you compile it with gcc4) 00.47.53 # ah ok 00.47.59 # linuxstb: in that case, do you think you could tar it for me? 00.48.03 # * t0mas is still thinking about a port to Windows CE 00.48.11 # but it would be a really lot of work 00.48.19 # and I suck at Windows CE programming 00.48.34 # t0mas: well, the sim already runs on windows desktop 00.48.58 # yeah... it should be possible 00.49.04 # BHSPitMonkey: Maybe preglow or Paul_The_Nerd can give you a compiled copy they have confirmed is working on their Nano. 00.49.59 # - 00.50.00 # I rm'd my working image of loader2 (and all the rest) last night by mistake 00.50.03 # nave7693: The Archos experts don't seem to be around at the moment. Have you read this page? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BootBox 00.50.11 # so i'm on thin ice here 00.50.36 # linuxstb: you mean flashing bootbox is the same procedure as flashing rombox? 00.50.44 Quit darkless (Client Quit) 00.50.45 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48.adsl.vby.tiscali.dk) 00.51.21 # nave7693: I wouldn't like to give you any advice about that. It's been a year or so since I flashed my recorder. Read the wiki and follow the links. 00.51.38 Quit Paul_The_Nerd (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.51.45 Quit infamis ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.53.10 # BHSPitMonkey: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/bootloader-nano.bin 00.53.17 # thanks 00.53.45 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 00.57.10 # linuxstb: will rockbox load SFonts? 00.59.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.59.28 # also, what are the bootloader key combos? 01.01.59 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@c220-239-137-122.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 01.02.17 Quit jelle-k|offline (Remote closed the connection) 01.02.37 # I don't know about the fonts. MENU gives you the apple firmware, and PLAY gives you linux (you need a linux.bin in the root of your FAT32 partition) 01.03.04 # The button detection isn't great - you need to press and hold the button just before the apple logo appears. 01.03.27 # ah 01.03.34 # i tried << and >> but not the other two ;) 01.03.54 # starfield = pretty 01.05.07 Join Xerion_ [0] (n=xerion@cp198589-a.landg1.lb.home.nl) 01.05.16 # linuxstb: btw, i've played around with ipodloader2 button driver 01.05.23 # linuxstb: and sometimes it works just great, sometimes it doesn't work at all 01.05.34 # at least the crappy one we use now is consistent in being poor 01.07.05 # I don't think it's that bad - as long as you press the button early enough. 01.08.21 # cool, i can confirm that it boots linux and rockbox 01.08.35 Quit Paul_The_Ner1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.09.01 # and apple 01.09.02 # nice 01.09.22 # ever think about making the bootloader a menu? 01.09.30 # Never. 01.09.35 # mmk 01.09.57 # * BHSPitMonkey waits for a defense of principle 01.11.25 Join infamis [0] (n=444e7c9e@labb.contactor.se) 01.11.55 # It's simply because I've got better things to do. I would prefer to spend the time improving Rockbox. 01.12.12 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 01.12.15 # But the source is there for anyone to patch. 01.12.16 # that's a good reason 01.12.21 Quit NicoFR () 01.12.25 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-123-52.VIC.netspace.net.au) 01.12.47 # I just assumed it was equally easy to use a menu in place of button detection, since a lot of elements seem to be there anyway 01.13.48 Quit nave7693 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.14.30 # by no means 01.14.49 # we'd need the menu code, ok, we'd also need a proper button driver without using interrupts 01.14.52 # harder 01.15.01 # i wouldn't even want a menu there 01.15.16 # What I would quite like to do is to add options in Rockbox to reboot into Linux or the retailos. All that's needed is to make Rockbox write a message into IRAM and then reboot. The bootloader could read that message and start the appropriate OS. 01.15.54 Quit Kohlrabi (Nick collision from services.) 01.15.59 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-130-230.pools.arcor-ip.net) 01.21.37 Quit Thus0 ("Leaving") 01.23.25 # sure 01.23.38 # since we're already doing that, it's not a big deal 01.24.34 # I've already suggested that with loader2 01.24.43 # but, uh, loader2 isn't exactly being a good friend 01.24.55 # so that's why I'm on rbloader :D 01.26.39 # You just need to edit line 41 of config.c to read "const char* confname=NULL;" - that worked for me. 01.26.49 # (in ipodloader2) 01.27.14 # well later after you said that, I asked josh what it was again, and he told me 01.27.21 # didn't wfm 01.27.30 # w/e, it's all g 01.27.31 # *good 01.27.43 # this bootloader seems to read a lot faster too 01.27.56 Join Kyl3 [0] (i=no@cpe-24-90-232-183.nyc.res.rr.com) 01.28.12 # Yes, it uses the standard Rockbox FAT32/ATA drivers. 01.28.23 # yeah 01.28.47 # clearly a nice advantage of our bootloader 01.28.56 # we don't need to make new versions of everything just for the loader 01.28.59 # hmm, doesn't seem to recognize the SFont 01.29.13 # oh well 01.29.37 # * BHSPitMonkey adds aquafont.fnt to rockbox 01.29.45 # how's that look? 01.30.05 # the font, or my fnt conversion? 01.30.22 # the font 01.31.36 # http://ipsin.org/aquasource.png 01.35.01 # heh 01.35.07 # looks pretty swell on the nano 01.35.57 # ooh, is it a kana only font, or does it have tons of characters? 01.36.06 # i'd like to try that out 01.37.57 Quit wubbla (Remote closed the connection) 01.38.30 Join wubbla [0] (n=wubbla@adsl-093.215.166.194.arpa.as1901.net) 01.40.36 Quit Moos ("Glory to Rockbox") 01.40.45 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ipa25.7.tellas.gr) 01.43.58 # quick question: anyone know any good books regarding embedded systems programming...intermediate level? 01.45.17 # preglow: it was tons, the FNT I generated is just english though 01.45.28 # BHSPitMonkey: could you put it up somewhere? 01.45.48 # sure, what hosting do you recommend 01.45.56 # it's been a while since i've had to put anything up 01.46.00 # you could also just dcc it if possible 01.46.06 # maybe 01.47.55 # preglow: not sure if my router's set up for this, but we'll try 01.48.01 # are you getting the request? 01.49.48 Join Lamed [0] (n=Shachar@85-64-118-204.barak-online.net) 01.50.08 # BHSPitMonkey: yeah, but as you said, your router's not set up for this :) 01.50.25 # hello. 01.50.29 # hi 01.51.27 # no way #define WPS_AB_SET_B_MARKER (BUTTON_REC | BUTTON_RIGHT) on gwps.h:73 is correct. this causes problems with the a-b repeat for the iriver's 01.51.56 # preglow: long time no see 01.52.20 # you can't really button_rec and button_right. 01.52.49 Quit linuxstb ("CGI:IRC") 01.53.15 # preglow: you have aim/yahoo/msn? 01.53.42 # i have jabber/google chat 01.53.42 # heh 01.54.01 # google chat? never heard of it 01.54.05 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 01.54.08 # google talk, whatever 01.54.22 # same for this ;) 01.54.30 # BHSPitMonkey: you could mail me it, i guess 01.55.03 # Or upload it to somewhere like yousendit.com 01.55.15 # oh yeah, forgot about that little site :P 01.55.37 # I have google talk, don't think you can send files 01.55.52 # nah, you can't 01.57.15 # anyone else having his plugin.c crashing all over the place?? 01.58.26 # preglow: pm 01.58.30 # Lamed: I don't think so. What's the problem. 01.59.08 # CC plugin.c 01.59.10 # BHSPitMonkey: you need to register with freenode, i think 01.59.15 # BHSPitMonkey: at least i don't get no pm 01.59.16 # plugin.c: In function `plugin_load': 01.59.18 # plugin.c:440: error: parse error before '||' token 01.59.22 # plugin.c:377: warning: unused variable `rc' 01.59.23 # Re-run ../tools/configure 01.59.40 # huh. stupidity 01.59.48 # thank you! 01.59.55 # preglow: i was asking permission, like a good humanitarian :) 02.00.01 # bhahaha 02.00.02 # sure you can pm 02.00.12 # until you fall over 02.02.06 # isn't anyone interested in fixing the iriver's ab bug? http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml 02.02.21 # preglow: did you get it this time? 02.02.22 # hm? 02.02.28 # Lamed? What's the problem? 02.02.36 # btw, linuxstb / preglow, about the reboot into diskmode thing 02.02.40 # hey t0mas. 02.02.50 # you can't really button_rec and button_right. 02.02.52 # ipodloader2 does that correctly (well, when you can get to the menu ;) ) 02.03.00 # bah 02.03.01 # that's happening over... wait 02.03.02 # so...maybe that could be a resource 02.03.06 # _I'M_ not registered :PP 02.03.10 # hah 02.03.11 # gwps.h 02.03.20 # ah.. 02.03.20 # preglow: will you give out your address in here then? 02.03.40 # nah, i am registered here, just needed to ident 02.03.51 # there, preglow 02.03.56 # it's senteded 02.04.12 # "senteded"? 02.04.16 # heh ;) 02.04.27 # the ab bug is because it's binded to button_rec | button_right over gwps.h. and you can't trigger rec+anything except ON ... 02.04.40 # ah ok 02.04.50 # but are there any buttons left on the iriver? :) 02.04.52 # BHSPitMonkey: Rockbox already reboots into diskmode. I was talking about rebooting directly into Linux or the RetailOS. 02.05.20 # ah... lemme think about it 02.05.50 # t0mas: anything happend with my screen scroll patch? was it refused by someone? 02.05.51 # hahaha 02.05.54 # it does look kind of cool 02.05.56 # linuxstb: no, it doesn't, successfully 02.06.02 # and i know what you were talking about then 02.06.03 Quit mozetti (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.06.07 # Lamed: asked Bagder/Daniel to do it... 02.06.08 # i think this thing would look nice with antialiasing 02.06.15 # but he has been very busy... 02.06.38 # and it even says this on the status page for the ipod 02.06.40 # what's this about ab and bugs and buttons? 02.06.44 # very as in _VERY_... it's been over then a mounth or two I believe... 02.06.59 # yeah... I'll do it myself... 02.07.16 # have you checked if it breaks with anything done in the last 2 months? 02.07.38 # beg 02.07.41 # ehh 02.07.41 # well 02.07.44 # lostlogic: the ab bug is because it's binded to button_rec | button_right over gwps.h. and you can't trigger rec+anything except ON ... 02.07.44 # i need to sleep 02.07.45 # later 02.07.57 # good night 02.08.25 # Lamed: this being a hardware limitation that I overlooked? 02.08.27 # BHSPitMonkey: That was fixed recently - I've just updated the wiki page. Have you tried it with the current CVS of Rockbox? 02.08.30 # Lamed: I'm updating my local copy now... 02.08.36 # if that's done, I'll apply your patch 02.08.39 # linuxstb: bah. 02.08.40 # and commit it 02.08.53 # t0mas: corrently it will just 'patch -p0' with some .rej ected. I will submit in a few minuts a newer for today's source. 02.09.09 # ok 02.09.13 # you have my e-mail address? 02.09.16 # you sure have to keep up-to-date with this os 02.09.30 # ab repeat works fine with the current bindings here...? 02.09.39 # is that a problem with the H1x0/ 02.09.51 # t0mas: (i'm writing pretty slow) I was doing the same thing. I was just re building after re running configure, afterwards I can diff 02.10.01 # ok 02.10.12 # can you also do a quick build? 02.10.28 # I'm at my laptop: 02.10.39 # [root@laptop2 build]# m68k-elf-gcc 02.10.40 # bash: m68k-elf-gcc: command not found 02.11.10 # lostlogic: what player 02.11.37 # lostlogic: he is right... it works on ipod etc. but it doesn't on Iriver H1x0 02.11.41 # lostlogic: i was just reffering to the daily build page that reports some errors. I'm still running make zip over here 02.11.45 # you can't use rec + left and rec + right 02.13.40 # g#$%dam cygwin. what the hell "BASH: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable" supposed to mean? 02.13.54 # to much running processes 02.13.59 # or out of memory 02.14.11 # on cygwin or under the os? 02.14.18 # I think cygwin 02.14.47 # i was just opening it... probably ram 02.15.02 # hm... 02.15.05 # it's 2:15 here 02.15.12 # can we add 1 day to the 2 months? 02.15.15 # and do it tomorrow? 02.16.09 # arggghhhhh 02.16.12 # :(((((( 02.16.22 # firefox:32 mb of ram 02.16.22 # I take that as a no ;) 02.16.32 # ah, yeah... it does that some times 02.16.41 # linuxstb: so are there any cool plugins that aren't included in the cvs? 02.16.45 # (that work on the ipod) 02.16.51 # i'm on CHatzilla over here so i'll bback shortly 02.16.54 # Lamed: mine is at 69.924 KB now 02.16.54 Quit Lamed ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]") 02.17.55 # BHSPitMonkey: No. There are some being developed for the iriver H300, but they will need adapting for the Nano's screen. They are here: http://plugbox.rockbox-lounge.de 02.18.09 # 69.704 KB now 02.18.10 # http://tomas.salfischberger.nl/dump/ff.png 02.19.44 Quit Xerion_ ("l8r...") 02.22.06 # those are cool 02.22.14 # wouldn't RockNES be a good port ;) 02.22.15 # hehehe 02.23.43 # rockPSP a much better :D 02.23.49 # ha 02.24.01 Join lamed [0] (n=55402cde@labb.contactor.se) 02.24.04 # wb 02.24.09 # i meant NES for rockbox, not the other way around :P 02.24.43 # t0mas: it's 03:25 over here... where do you what me to put it? sourceforge? 02.24.50 # email? 02.24.54 # BHSPitLappy: You probably know about rockboy? 02.25.05 # i've heard of it 02.25.07 # fine 02.25.26 # or copy it to your webspace or something 02.25.37 # BHSPitLappy: It should be working on the Nano soon. But the ipod just doesn't have enough buttons... 02.26.29 # yeah 02.26.38 # does rb register staps? 02.27.02 # I'm going through it to see it's good 02.28.47 # it's sent 02.28.54 # ok 02.29.24 # (see pm) 02.33.28 # lamed? 02.33.31 # wake up ;) 02.33.52 Quit Kohlrabi ("Fast alle Menschen sind Regenwürmer") 02.35.42 # * t0mas wonders where lamed has gone... 02.35.50 Quit einhirn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.35.53 # PM!! 02.35.58 # t0mas 02.36.00 # yes 02.36.05 # are you registered with freenode? 02.36.13 # you can't send pm-s if you're not 02.36.26 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@p54863BD1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 02.36.28 # haven't you got my messages? I _am_ registered 02.36.36 # join #temp 02.36.39 # maybe i'm not logged in. but i tinkg i am 02.36.46 # it's the same patch, but not the same version. If you close the sourceforge patch, is it totally deleted? if so, delete it 02.36.53 # ed> your third idea sound the most appropriate 02.37.00 # p.s shachar is my personal name. 02.37.03 # ok, then you're not logged in 02.37.10 # hehe 02.37.36 # and do you have any idea's why I haven't received your email yet? 02.37.41 # BHSPitMonkey: No, we don't have "tap events" at the moment (apart from turning on the backlight), but we'll probably add them. 02.37.50 # identify ??????? 02.37.54 # -NickServ- You have already identified 02.38.00 # [02:37:45] -NickServ- You have already identified 02.38.09 # ?! 02.38.19 # weird 02.38.28 # linuxstb: they don't seem to work for the nano in iPL, possibly due to the different wheel manufacturer (?) 02.38.37 # tomas@salfischberger.nl 02.38.38 # but diagmode recognizes them 02.38.46 # that's correct 02.39.01 # sourceforge: 1 minute 02.39.05 Join webguest48 [0] (n=40e9ad59@labb.contactor.se) 02.39.21 Part infamis 02.39.54 # lamed: I have it 02.39.54 Quit webguest48 (Client Quit) 02.39.59 # just took some time :| 02.40.55 # and it's now on sourceforge as well :) 02.40.55 # ok 02.40.55 # you are in the credits file right? 02.40.57 # t0mas do you get me? 02.41.12 # t0mas: yes, for the hebrew translation :) 02.41.18 # (not receiving any privmsg's) 02.41.24 # dang 02.42.05 # weird... 02.42.13 Join webguest48 [0] (n=18d79bd6@labb.contactor.se) 02.42.37 # what? translating for a language that no one will probably ever use? -yes, I know, 02.42.44 # anyone know how to use the ab repeat on the h120? 02.43.06 # webguest48: it's not possible atm 02.43.11 # key bindings are wrong 02.43.19 # am I the only one that's getting codec failiure for everything? 02.43.57 # webguest48: do you program? 02.44.25 # lamed: http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml 02.44.36 # lamed: nah, programmers have real IRC clients! :D 02.44.38 Quit lamed ("CGI:IRC") 02.44.41 # wait 25 minutes, and you can download rockbox with your patch in it :) 02.44.42 # HA 02.44.49 # rofl 02.44.58 Join lamed [0] (n=55402cde@labb.contactor.se) 02.45.06 # haha lamed 02.45.22 # BHSPitMonkey lol... 02.45.38 # t0mas: nice. what was changed? 02.45.54 # hm? 02.47.07 # no warrning for the iriver. what else did you wanted me to see? 02.47.23 # the compile time 02.47.30 # hoo.. I get it... it's still compiling... cool 02.47.32 # it estimates to have a new build ready at 2:11 GMT 02.47.51 # if you click on the date/time 02.47.52 # http://www.rockbox.org/cvsmod/chlog-2006-01-22%2001:42:19.html 02.47.59 # half an houre... 02.48.12 # yeyyyy...... 02.48.16 # 34 builds in 1743 seconds makes 51 seconds/build 02.48.24 # it calculates that too ;) 02.48.29 # Coooolll.....!!?!@#?>!@EW?W>A>?F yeyyyy?>FDF?G># 02.48.43 # lamed: i dont program 02.48.47 Quit mikearthur ("Konversation terminated!") 02.49.02 # the bleeding edge build supposedly has ab repeat... 02.49.13 # so i thought i just needed to know the mapped keys 02.49.15 # webguest48: it has, but it isn't working for iriver 02.49.35 # ah 02.49.37 # the key definitions we have now are not supported on the iriver 02.49.41 # t0mas: i've just remebered that it _might be_ that i've changed some order in one of the files so I won't always get Cvs errors... I'll check on that now 02.49.42 # i see 02.50.02 # lamed: what order? 02.50.07 # and what's a seamless seeking? 02.50.22 # t0mas... lemme just look for a sec 02.50.30 # webguest48: seeking to another position in the song, w/o stopping the sound 02.50.40 # so that's basicly what ab-repeat does... 02.50.49 # ah nice 02.50.53 # if it gets to point B, it seamlessly seeks back to A 02.51.31 # i see, thx 02.51.44 Quit webguest48 ("CGI:IRC") 02.51.46 # t0mas- getting pm? 02.51.53 # no 02.51.58 # join #rockbox-temp 02.52.10 # and use that as a PM replacement 02.55.46 # t0mas: no luck. 02.55.46 # *** Access to channel #rockbox-temp is blocked 02.56.01 # :| 02.56.04 # rob, I get your messages 02.56.19 # rob is a staffer 02.56.24 # and he's not on the channel ;) 02.56.43 # t0mas: You've broken all colour builds - the patch didn't add the new functions to lcd-16bit.c 02.56.45 # 'staffer'? 02.56.59 # sh*t 02.57.05 # lamed: someone from freenode 02.57.20 # lemme check about that linuxstb, it should work! 02.57.55 # Yes, it should just be a copy and paste. 02.57.56 # t0mas: I haven't replaced the order of anything. 02.58.11 # linuxstb: how do you know it's not working? it's still compiling? 02.58.12 # ! 02.58.25 # I compiled it myself for the ipod. 02.58.26 # lamed: local compile 02.59.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.59.27 # yeah. he is right. it is somehow missing. sec. 02.59.46 # hmz... 02.59.53 # try to fix it... 02.59.58 # and do a test build for the iriver H320 03.00.00 # or the ipod 03.00.06 # or some other color target 03.00.15 # Or both. 03.00.21 # even better 03.00.24 # i guess i had the file overwritten and so it's not in the diff. 03.00.29 # linuxstb? you have CVS access? 03.00.41 # Yes. 03.01.03 # can you test + commit? 03.01.13 # I can't test it myself now.. 03.01.19 # Can't promise I'll be awake for long, but if I am, then I will. 03.01.24 # ok 03.01.31 # linuxstb: i've got it here. 03.01.32 # if you're not... I'll do it tomorrow morning 03.01.39 # lamed: sure it works? 03.01.42 # then just email it 03.01.50 # I'll be around for 3 more minutes 03.02.33 # doing it 03.02.37 # k 03.03.22 # it patches smooth, building & mailing now. 03.03.47 # horizontal scrolling is for screen switches? 03.04.30 # sent 03.04.44 # ok 03.04.56 # lostlogic: use ON+ RIGHT/LEFT on a filetree/playlist. you'll understand 03.05.38 # t0mas: am building an h300 sim right now, Will work, but let me see 03.05.48 # ok 03.06.03 # an old p3 850 :(((( 03.06.16 # ghe :) 03.06.26 # my laptop is only 1.2 ghz too 03.06.51 # and cygwin is way slower than native linux 03.07.20 # you're right. try race me 03.17.48 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.19.12 # t0mas, lamed: That's fine on the ipod now. 03.19.21 # ok 03.22.00 # lamed: http://www.rockbox.org/showlog.cgi?date=2006-01-22%2001%3A42%3A19&type=Player%20-%20Normal#prob1 03.22.06 # check that out in your part 3 too 03.22.07 # cool. 03.22.18 # you should prob. just add some defines 03.22.52 # t0mas: yes, i figured that this will happend. I cahnged those names at the newest version. 03.22.57 # ok 03.23.03 # wait 03.23.27 # you still have to define em away for the player I guess 03.23.36 # as they aren't used in that build 03.23.39 # t0mas, I have to have the older cvs version so i could cvs diff the source... 03.23.55 # no... 03.23.57 # lamed: Just provide a diff against current CVS 03.24.01 # you must diff it to the current one 03.24.13 # but I'm away now 03.24.21 # I really need my sleep 03.24.33 Quit t0mas ("bye") 03.25.54 # linuxstb: that sounds a bit risky 03.26.10 # but i'm on it for now 03.27.13 # Why risky? Patches can only be applied against what is in CVS now. 03.27.46 # lemme explain 03.29.00 # linuxstb: the first file i sent to t0mas was an older copy of the screen_scroll patch I had. the second file probably fixes most errors, 03.29.07 # but I had a new patch without the style-changes that were in the first (older) patch, and changed some integer names and stuff 03.30.20 # Then you can check out a clean copy from CVS, reverse the first two patches yourself, and then apply the third patch, and then generate a diff against CVS. 03.31.03 # linuxstb: correct :) that's what I'm doing. but I don't like it because I prefer of manually checking my patchfiles 03.33.13 # I'm sure you'll work something out :) 03.33.13 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@124.60.15.86) 03.33.39 # I will... I feel so bad for sending him the wrong file :((( 03.34.48 # hi 03.34.53 # hi 03.34.56 # :) 03.37.55 Quit Kyl3 ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 03.50.35 # linuxstb: patch is ready. I'm compiling for h120 and simulators of right about everything. i have an oldish p3 850. care to check yourself? 03.50.40 Quit birdfish () 03.54.06 Join birdfish [0] (n=bfisher@mail.affidavitmaker.com) 03.55.10 Quit tvelocity ("Leaving") 03.56.34 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-70-114-192-167.houston.res.rr.com) 04.04.53 # anyone awake that can submit? 04.05.00 Quit einhirn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.07.24 # hm 04.07.41 # I have p3 800 04.08.17 # & u don't have cvs rights :) 04.09.43 Join RedLeg [0] (n=red@66.59.108.254) 04.09.55 # Greetings... 04.12.17 # Anyone here? 04.13.40 # yup 04.16.05 # I'm getting an "ATA error: -11" message at boot all of a sudden.... any clues 04.16.51 # nope 04.16.52 # :/ 04.17.16 # I should add: Jukebox recorder 20, has worked fine for YEARS, no changes... 04.17.41 # And, the drive works fine out of the Archos 04.20.07 # * BHSPitLappy is an iPod owner 04.21.30 # I may become one soon.... I'm not sure I want to invest in hardware this old.... 04.21.55 # redleg: what firmware version? 04.23.27 # lamed: I THINK it's 2.4.. I haven't upgraded in a while, and it's definitely not 2.5 04.24.00 # I get the error whether there's a drive in the unit or not 04.25.42 # It won't boot into the Archos firmware either, message is: HD register error..... 04.26.03 # can you sync it with the computer? 04.26.30 # Lemme try.... 04.27.08 # hmm What is Horizontal scrolling? 04.27.50 # lamed: no, same error 04.27.51 # I gtg. I don't know much but it sounds like an hard disk failing... I will try scandisk and defrag if you can sync the drive. there's a mith of freezing an h.d helps (google it) but i don't know if that will work for a player... jungti use ON+ LEFT/RIGHT on a playlist/fileview 04.27.58 Quit lamed ("CGI:IRC") 04.28.30 # um 04.28.38 Quit kkurbjun (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.29.24 Quit webguest66 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 04.29.57 # Well, for what it's worth, the drive works fine out of the archos. The Archos doesn't even't seem to be trying to spin the drive up... 04.32.11 # So, maybe it's the ata controller itself 04.32.40 # Or whatever 04.33.56 # Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of... spontaneous hardware death 04.34.59 # I live in fear of that every day. :-P 04.35.05 # Still, I'm curious... the rockbox error message is "ATA: -11" 04.35.07 Join lamed [0] (n=554076a3@labb.contactor.se) 04.36.05 # jungti what do you think about the screen scoll? 04.36.28 # lamed: is there still another part of that patch that you need to get committed? 04.38.22 # lostlogic: I have a patch file that cleans up the code styling changed that I accidently had in the first file, solves the player problem, and changes some integer names for logic reasons 04.39.01 # since thomas went to bed, want to send it to me to clean up the build table? 04.40.07 # I'm building for h120, simulators: h300 , player, recorder,gmini,ipod, x5. I only reached the h300. and old p3 850. I will be most greatful to you if you're willing to do it 04.41.20 # hehe, I can test build for most targets, and I have a faster box if you can either link or email it to me. 04.41.45 # lostlogic, is the x5 already running? I guess not, right? - there are no keybinds for it because I wasn't sure if even has a simulator up and running 04.41.56 # what's ur email? 04.42.04 # lostlogic at lostlogicx dot com 04.42.26 # x5 isn't running yet, but it'd be nice to support it with new things (not that some of my patches have supported it either) 04.42.28 # solexx: what does the "ATA: -11" error message mean? 04.42.31 # lamed: Probably not worth bothering with gmini. 04.42.50 # lamed: you have the calmrisc16 target building!? 04.42.58 # lamed: what does the "ATA: -11" error message mean? 04.43.22 # redleg: u really should refer to lostlogic/paul on that, beforehand asking me :D 04.43.40 # lamed: OK, thanx.... 04.43.40 # it's an h.d issue 04.43.59 # lostlogic: calmrisc16? 04.44.24 # lostlogic: mailbox? 04.44.27 # lamed: that's the compiler target for gmini, right... and I haven't gotten a toolchain working for it yet 04.44.34 # i know it's an HD issue, but the HD works fine out of the unit..... 04.45.24 # Redleg: It means that it can't access the HD. For example, if the batteries were too low to spin it up. 04.45.36 # lostlogic: I lost you. anyways. what's ur mailbox so I could mail you the latest diff? 04.46.02 # lamed: see my message @ 21:42 with my email spelled out ;) 04.47.29 # Paul_The_Nerd: Yep.... this happened to me a couple of ears ago.... a drive got to the point that the archos couldn't spin it up. This is the replacement for that drive, CAREFULLY specc'd to be within the archos capabilities. WOrst thing: it worked fine last night, dead this morning. 04.47.42 # RedLeg: it is an error having to do with MASTER_SLAVE detection 04.48.12 # most likely returned from ata.c line 1210 04.48.14 # lostlogic: so maybe a jumper would help? 04.48.45 # RedLeg: not sure, I am not intimately familiar with what this code does, I just tracked down that error code to the line it was thrown from. 04.49.20 # lostlogic: sent 04.49.48 # lostlogic: understood, thanks.... I'll go see if I have a jumper that will fit this drive and try. I have the unit apart anyway.... 04.49.54 # lostlogic: I took a completely different approach, and searched the mailing list archives. Hehehe. 04.50.51 # Paul_The_Nerd: hehe, I'm all about reading code, gives me excuse to learn something new 04.51.46 # lostlogic: I have ata.c open in an editor, but I searched the site first in case the question was already answered. 04.52.15 # lostlogic: x5 should work with any problem what so ever. all we have to do is make a keybind. I'm not familiar wiith their keys so i gave up on it for now. 04.52.20 # did ya got my file? 04.52.30 # I'm looking at the drive, and no jumpers is supposed to be MASTER..... 04.52.57 # Another data point: I get the same error with NO drive in the chassis 04.53.31 # RedLeg: How is your battery charge? 04.54.09 # Redleg: I acctually got this message with my h120 a little while ago. it worked the second time i tryied, but my h.d is getting pretty curropted lately 04.54.20 # Paul_The_Nerd: Yah... I've tried several sets, and charged them specifically 04.54.43 # lamed: is AB repeat still a problem on H1x0, so I need a different keybinding for it? 04.55.12 Join kkurbjun [0] (n=Jim@c-24-8-222-177.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 04.55.25 # RedLeg: Hrm. I dunno, but it sounds like some other hardware's the problem then, since you say the HD works outside the unit. 04.55.34 # lamed: and if so, do you have any suggested keybindings that are free and functional on WPS 04.57.01 # OK, tried a different drive.... at least got the version: Rockbox 2.3 04.58.00 # lostlogic: don't pm ok? - I don't think anyone commited anything about the ab keybinds, but I'll check 04.58.05 # Wait, so a different drive boots? 04.59.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.59.30 # Not quite.... but I got the RB boot splash, not an error message.... trying ANOTHER now 04.59.35 # lamed: ok -- do you know of any free keys in the WPS on H1x0? 05.00.18 # ahhhh... that was the last pm 05.00.22 # Isn't the record one free? 05.00.37 # paul... you need two keys for a-b repleat 05.00.52 # You do? 05.00.58 # Why exactly? 05.01.12 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB0C348.ipt.aol.com) 05.01.25 Join j [0] (n=j@c-24-130-207-92.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 05.01.42 # What is the second key needed for? 05.01.44 # I'm not sure. i haven't used a-b repeat... it was only implemented today remember.... I went trhough the code and found out there are two bindings. 05.01.54 # What does each one do? 05.02.01 # Because you could use long and short presses of Record 05.02.03 # probably first que and second que. 05.02.19 # But why does that need two different keys? 05.02.28 # I think one would be enter/exit A-B mode, and the other would be setting the points. 05.02.38 # Again, long for the first, short for the latter. 05.02.57 # What is horizontal scrolling~? 05.03.26 # Jungti. I've already replied you about that before 05.03.43 # I don't understand. 05.04.10 # hi, i plugged in the wrong voltage charger to my jukebox studio 10, and now it won't charge internally. does anyone have this problem or know how to fix it? 05.04.10 # jungti: what player? 05.04.23 # j is it working? 05.05.00 # it works fine, but does not charge the batteries. it says charging but it is only running from batteries 05.05.07 # OK, with the 3d HD, I get the same ATA: -11 error, and the same HD Register Error out of the Archos firmware... looks like I may have an Archos hardware issue.... 05.05.20 # lamed: H300 05.05.40 # is it updated with the bleeding build? 05.05.48 Join Sacro [0] (n=root@83.100.189.139) 05.05.54 # not yety 05.05.57 # -y 05.06.01 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.06.14 # does the iriver H300 support midi? 05.06.36 # update, and then use ON+RIGHT/LEFT on the fileviewer, and you'll understand 05.06.45 # ok :) 05.07.40 # jungti: i will update the wikimanual soon :) 05.07.49 # hehe 05.08.05 # sacro: i think you can use midi2wav for that 05.08.37 # lamed: yeah, i can use timidity++ to convert, but i selected one on the mp3 player, it got as far as "selecting patches" and died 05.09.14 # Sacro: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SoundCodecs#Other_CODECs 05.09.27 # you know? 05.10.17 # lostlogic: are you on it? 05.10.22 # lamed: am on it 05.10.47 # hmm, it plays mpc, and i converted them to mp3 eventually 05.11.59 Quit RedLeg ("Leaving") 05.12.37 # 12 targets to build on the wall, 12 targets to build... take one down, run it around, 11 targets to build on the wall 05.12.49 # lamed: can you build the simulator targets for me? I'm lazy. :-P 05.12.50 # great, then i'm on the a-b patch 05.13.07 # h300 sim is working 05.13.07 # or we can just assume the sims are OK :-P 05.13.10 # ok 05.13.30 # and now i'm all out of memory again :((( i guess i'm seriously infected with something. 05.13.38 # you run windows? 05.13.55 # ghe,,, you don't have to build everything!!! 05.14.20 # haha, I need to setup a build script like the server has locally... my box is fast enough to do all of the builds in reasonable time 05.14.27 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=Steve-O@adsl-66-141-167-152.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 05.14.58 # some color builds (h300, ipod), the recorder, player, maybe an ondio, that's it! (should make sure that there are no warnings for the player, should be ok) 05.15.16 # I'm building with -Werror, so no worries on that. 05.15.28 # logic: what's your cvs name? 05.15.38 # username is lostlogic, _name_ is Brandon 05.15.54 # I'm teh newb 05.16.00 # hehe 05.16.09 Quit Rob2222_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.16.10 # * lamed newere 05.16.12 # h300 sim? 05.16.44 # lamed: meant I'm the newest committer. 05.18.44 # yeah I knew what you ment 05.19.13 # and yeah winxp. I've installed ubuntu linux but i can't get my pptp connection working :( 05.19.25 # ok, building iPod and then committing your patch, looks good to me. 05.19.37 # should be good. 05.19.46 # -> THIS TIME ... 05.19.55 # what do you think of the usability though? 05.20.50 # it's neat -- needs to turn off the autoscrolling of long titles, IMO 05.21.25 # what autoscrolling are you talking about? 05.21.31 # oh crap, something I did today has totally messed software codecs up. 05.22.16 # why not using a catch click on the record button, so the first click=set A point, and the second click =set B point? 05.22.51 # lamed: that's actually how I'd originally designed it for H[13]x0, but other developers thought that giving a whole button to this feature was not OK 05.23.27 # lamed: there's a WPS_SINGLE_BUTTON_PRE and WPS_SINGLE_BUTTON that you can define for a given target, and then you can define AB_REPEAT_ENABLE to 2 instead of 1 to take it out of the menu and have it more like the original iRiver feature 05.25.12 # whooo man you reallly f#$Fcked up the codecs.... 05.25.17 # lamed: your patch (lightly modified) is committed, you'll probably have conflicts when you update 05.25.28 # lamed: you trigger the same weird bug I did where they skip all around weird? 05.25.32 # lamed: it doesn't happen all the time 05.25.38 # yey! i love conflicts 05.25.51 # yes... it just happend the first 05.26.02 # lamed: gah, I'll have to hunt that down now before I can sleep 05.26.17 # hmm lamed 05.26.39 # I pressed ON+Right/Left, but there is no change. 05.26.54 # listen, i agree a-b isn't important enough to be used as a button. but surely isn't a good idea for two buttons! what about having ON+SELECT as the only button for it? (similar to iriver, different button) 05.27.45 # let the bleeding edge finish building 05.27.46 # http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml 05.27.53 # and then download 05.28.00 # agh 05.28.24 # lamed: that seems reasonable if it's free, just define WPS_AB_SINGLE and the AB_REPEAT_ENABLE to 2... 05.28.25 # Does it become scroll from left to right? 05.28.45 # probably also define WPS_AB_A and WPS_AB_B as well so that people can move markers easily 05.29.01 # it _is_ working now btw. jungti, find a reallllly long file names folder and then mess around on+right/left 05.30.13 # I witnessed it. 05.30.19 # lostlogic: you've got a point. acctually, iriver sucked so bad about a-b mode, that I haven't thought what might be better with a button for every marker 05.30.31 # Is it 'Screen Scrolls Out Of View'? 05.31.08 # I say destroy the WPS_NEXT_DIR button... hate it. 05.31.28 # OK! I understood it. 05.31.32 # hehe 05.31.35 # thanks lamed! 05.34.04 # sure... it was nothing... just learning how to program in C after being away from programing for several years... nothing really 05.34.45 # :) 05.35.17 # jungti1234: are you an english native speaker? 05.35.40 # no i'm korean 05.35.59 # lamed: any idea how to trigger the playback bug exactly? 05.36.27 Quit Sacro (Remote closed the connection) 05.37.02 # lostlogic: took me several weeks for learning the main thread... :( 05.37.33 # lamed: I meant in using the player do you know what you do to make it do that weird skippy thing? 05.38.12 # lostlogic: I think ON+REC / ON+MODE is a pretty good substitude for REC+LEFT/RIGHT. each one of those buttons are on the other side of the player. 05.38.41 # lamed: I don't have a H1x0 so you know better than me 05.38.49 # lostlogic: i only know it happends when you listen to beatles - all you need is love 05.38.57 # :D 05.39.17 # lamed: :-P 05.40.29 # it has to do with skip functionality, I think 05.41.57 # lostlogic: but it's really not comfortable. this bind that is. we only have REC, ON + REC, ON+SELECT, ON+MODE available. maybe, a nice idea would have to move the WPS_NEXT_DIR to long clicks, and have a short ON+left/right do ab repeat. you probably should consult everyone first :) 05.42.29 Quit j (Remote closed the connection) 05.43.09 # lamed: for now, let's just give it single button functionality only, and we can give it more after more thinking. 05.45.00 # sounds decent, but it's up to you... it's 6:42 AM over here!!! I'm supposed to wake up in two hours! and I can't even compile because of low memory all the time. -thanks for your help, good day 05.45.15 # lamed: hehe, g'night 05.46.24 # wooo, so nice to see my name over rockbox's main page :D I will save myself a copy of the page 05.46.57 # :) 05.47.01 # and I don't think it was me who broke things 05.47.39 # in _strange_ news, I think somehow the fix for the popping noise caused the weird skippiness 05.48.07 # btw http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WikiManual needs some work. goodluck with that problem :) 05.50.27 Quit lamed ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 05.52.59 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@24.143.70.99) 05.53.58 Quit midkay (Client Quit) 05.54.22 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@24.143.70.99) 06.11.21 Quit ashridah (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.11.26 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-121-48.VIC.netspace.net.au) 06.14.46 # Slasheri: you don't by any chance happen to be still around? 06.20.39 Join kernel_sensei [0] (n=boris@lns-bzn-47f-81-56-253-161.adsl.proxad.net) 06.20.40 Quit kernelsensei (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.20.50 Nick kernel_sensei is now known as kernelsensei (n=boris@lns-bzn-47f-81-56-253-161.adsl.proxad.net) 06.25.53 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 06.26.14 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-121-48.VIC.netspace.net.au) 06.37.43 Quit stamppot ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 06.38.23 Quit RotAtoR ("zzzzzz") 06.45.27 Quit Jungti1234 () 06.59.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.26.19 Part Paul_The_Nerd 07.39.44 # hey, does any1 use rockcalander? 07.56.05 # any1 else tryed compiling the latest sources and have them fail on plugins.c? 08.00.13 # any1 here know how to spell? 08.00.23 # not i 08.02.06 # oh! me! PICK ME!!! 08.07.19 # ...wierd... reconfing cygwin fixed the problem! 08.12.52 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@124.60.15.86) 08.17.59 Quit DJDD__ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 08.20.51 Join DJDD__ [0] (n=DJDD@220-245-186-182.static.tpgi.com.au) 08.24.20 Quit midkay (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.24.42 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@24.143.70.99) 08.39.18 Join EvilDude [0] (i=EvilDude@61.1.188.119) 08.43.10 Quit Jungti1234 () 08.56.17 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.59.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.13.14 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 09.17.37 # lostlogic: hehe, now i am.. it's still only 1017 am here :) 09.30.21 Join SnokeekonS [0] (n=kickback@2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:8000:0:3e03:6822) 09.30.51 Nick SnokeekonS is now known as AliasCoffee (n=kickback@2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:8000:0:3e03:6822) 09.39.05 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-130-230.pools.arcor-ip.net) 09.41.17 # ah, that horizontal scrolling is great, especially with the "screen scrolls out of view" setting turned on 09.42.29 # o.O didn't things already scroll horizontally? 09.43.11 # not the whole screen at same time :) 09.43.29 # aah 09.43.31 # i see 09.43.42 # lostlogic: Hmm, i really think that screen scrolls out of view should be enabled as default.. the scrolling is quite ugly without it enable 09.43.46 # d 09.45.28 # There is another bug. It is enabled for Ondio, but this button mapping can't working in most lists. While BUTTON_MENU can technically be used as "shift" (it is in a couple of plugins), in most lists a long press of MENU calls the menu 09.45.44 # This simply can't work and should be deactivated 09.52.56 # amiconn: hmm, do i remember correctly that i shouldn't put any system calls to pcm_play_pause in pcm_playback.c? 09.53.20 # i cannot see any reason directly for that at the moment 09.53.42 # but i think it was an issue long ago 09.55.12 # if it's safe to mute audio there, we would get rid of one little pop 09.55.26 # I don't know... 09.55.35 Join SteL [0] (n=stel@slawson.plus.com) 09.55.57 # hmm, maybe i will try that.. 10.02.03 Quit mikearthur (Remote closed the connection) 10.03.05 # Slasheri: Hmm, I checked the cvs revisions for pcm_playback.c. Maybe it is rev. 1.67 (by Linus) what you remembered 10.03.27 # ah, i will check that revision 10.03.49 # You must not call any uda_ functions (which do i2c) from functions which may be called in interrupt context 10.04.01 # http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/firmware/pcm_playback.c 10.04.27 # yep, true. But that pcm_play_pause() shouldn't get called within an interrupt 10.05.33 # Usually not, but double-check the metronome plugin. 10.07.53 # Any news on the tagcache front? 10.08.22 # i haven't had much time for that in the past few weeks.. 10.08.38 # maybe at next week if it's less busy 10.10.31 Join needleboy [0] (n=3e005546@labb.contactor.se) 10.10.50 Join Matze [0] (i=Miranda@p5484F912.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.11.16 # argh, it seems metronome plugin calls pcm_play_data within a timer interrupt.. and i have already added sleep and mute trick there :/ 10.12.06 Quit needleboy (Client Quit) 10.15.12 # maybe i will just modify the metronome plugin little 10.15.34 # Imho the low level functions shouldn't do too many trciks 10.15.48 # *tricks 10.16.52 # amiconn: Hmm, in fact.. i think i can move that single trick to pcmbuf.c 10.17.02 # then it would be a problem anymore 10.17.05 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@p54BD5493.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.17.32 # *wouldn't 10.31.02 # amiconn: in fact there seems to be no need to put any mute calls on the pcm level.. all of them can be done on higher level :) 10.31.11 # so i am going to remove them 10.31.40 Quit EvilDude () 10.35.23 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.35.24 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@p54BD5493.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.35.52 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 10.36.07 Quit Matze ("Miranda IM! 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Rob. a good morning to you as well. 10.57.39 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.59.23 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@124.60.15.86) 10.59.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.02.54 # * BHSPitLappy yawns. 11.20.45 Join t0mas [0] (n=Tomas@unaffiliated/t0mas) 11.21.12 # morning 11.22.35 # hey 11.22.38 # you don't want to be here 11.22.42 # it's damn boring. 11.22.51 # hi 11.22.52 # hm? 11.23.55 # heh. 11.24.17 # nobody around? 11.24.29 # nobody with fingers apparently 11.24.33 # ghehe 11.24.33 # i'm.. kind of here. 11.24.33 # ok 11.24.40 # bbl 11.24.40 # I'm going to leave you too ;) 11.24.43 Part amiconn 11.24.44 # time for breakfast 11.25.02 # booooooo 11.25.03 # :) 11.25.44 # what is 'Descramble'? 11.25.53 # decode 11.26.00 # hmm 11.26.32 # (if you're talking about a firmware file) 11.26.47 # yes 11.26.52 # what is the minimum things to #include for a new .c file? 11.27.03 # Pi_ 11.27.08 # what file? 11.27.11 # plugin? 11.27.16 # or non rockbox? 11.27.22 # no, menu thing 11.27.35 # in rockbox 11.27.36 # hm... depends on what functions etc. you need 11.27.58 # how do I make voice file? 11.28.14 # Pi___, what are the digits in you? 11.28.24 # ATM, i get the error: 11.28.24 # undefined refference to 'color_menu' 11.28.49 # ah ok 11.30.28 # hm... I don't know where those are... 11.33.12 Join mozetti [0] (n=moe@p54A84E16.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.33.37 # my code - http://rafb.net/paste/results/O90Iay52.html 11.33.53 # error on line? 11.34.00 Quit ender` (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11.34.30 # error is in settings_menu when it calls color_menu 11.35.09 # where is the settings_menu function? 11.36.03 # what is 'Scramble'? 11.36.31 # encode? 11.37.07 # ??, Settings_menu, line 1510 is 11.37.08 # result = color_menu(&color); 11.38.04 # Jungti1234: yes 11.38.09 # thanks.. :) 11.38.10 # ah ok 11.39.11 # Pi___: have you added that function? 11.39.19 # as I don't really get what you're doing... 11.40.33 # i have a .h file withih declares: 11.40.34 # #define MAX_COLORS 64 11.40.39 # int color_menu (unsigned *ref); 11.40.51 # and 11.40.51 # struct color 11.40.51 # { 11.40.51 DBUG Enqueued KICK Pi___ 11.40.51 # unsigned rgbref; 11.40.51 # char name[28]; 11.40.51 *** Alert Mode level 1 11.40.51 # }; 11.42.10 # well... then you have to include that .h in the file with the error... 11.42.42 # i want to create a menu that allows the user to pick a color, this will get more complicated when costom collors are added, so i think it should have its own file and not clutter up the settings_menu.c 11.42.53 # ah ok 11.43.21 # #include color_menu.h is allready there 11.43.28 # hm 11.43.32 # and the error you get... 11.43.39 # give that including filename and line numbers etc... 11.46.40 # bbl... time to eat 11.48.54 # lll 11.49.04 # /rockbox/apps/settings_menu.hc:1510: undefined refference to 'color_menu' 11.49.10 # /rockbox/apps/settings_menu.hc:1510: undefined refference to 'color_menu' 11.50.52 *** Alert Mode OFF 11.53.16 Quit mirak (Success) 11.59.58 Quit ashridah (Remote closed the connection) 12.00.01 Join Lost-ash [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-121-48.VIC.netspace.net.au) 12.00.31 Nick Lost-ash is now known as ashridah (i=ashridah@220-253-121-48.VIC.netspace.net.au) 12.00.50 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m53.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 12.03.39 Join SteL_ [0] (n=IceChat7@slawson.plus.com) 12.04.42 Quit SteL_ (Client Quit) 12.06.35 Nick Pi___ is now known as Pi (n=Pi@80-44-117-240.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 12.06.35 DBUG Enqueued KICK Pi 12.07.10 Part SteL 12.08.27 Join SteL [0] (n=IceChat7@slawson.plus.com) 12.10.01 Join Skydemon [0] (n=udo@p508753F2.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.22.02 Quit Skydemon ("bye bye") 12.25.48 Join DangerousDan [0] (n=Miranda@newtpulsifer.campus.luth.se) 12.27.29 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 12.32.19 Quit perplexity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.37.08 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-154-160-47.bna.bellsouth.net) 12.38.50 Join NicoFR [0] (n=nico404@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 12.39.55 Part SteL 12.41.27 Join [1]SteL [0] (n=SteL@slawson.plus.com) 12.42.41 Join Hansmaulwurf [0] (n=maerlyn@p508189BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 12.44.20 Join San||Away [0] (n=test@213-202-161-180.bas503.dsl.esat.net) 12.46.19 Quit mozetti () 12.51.50 Quit Rob2222 () 12.52.27 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB0C348.ipt.aol.com) 12.56.30 Quit [1]SteL (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The professional IRC Client") 12.56.46 Join tiennou [0] (n=56c89862@labb.contactor.se) 12.56.53 Join Matze [0] (i=Miranda@p5484F912.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.57.56 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp57-adsl-53.ath.forthnet.gr) 12.59.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.02.09 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@p54BD57EC.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.02.48 Join koseski [0] (n=53105ad6@labb.contactor.se) 13.04.19 Quit goa ("Client suicide") 13.05.34 # hi XavierGr 13.06.55 # um 13.08.48 # hi, kirsten dunst 13.09.35 Quit tiennou ("CGI:IRC") 13.10.28 Quit koseski ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 13.12.03 Join Membrillo [0] (n=sam_kill@CPE-60-229-179-140.nsw.bigpond.net.au) 13.12.14 # Hmm, no lamed here 13.15.15 Join goa [0] (i=hd@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 13.15.52 # amiconn: looking for him? 13.16.08 # I had an idea for the horizontal scrolling patch 13.16.14 # tell me... 13.16.46 # Instead of using the cumbersome, and not possible on all targets button combo... 13.16.59 # (mentioned that earlier today - it's aproblem on Ondio) 13.17.02 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@88.134.20.76) 13.17.29 # (thinking of that... we need some button thing... as the AB-repeat doesn't work with the iriver buttons) 13.17.49 # ...we could use BUTTON_(LEFT|RIGHT) | BUTTON_REPEAT instead 13.18.14 # That's usually unused in lists, entering / leaving sub-lists is done with short presses 13.18.41 # ok 13.18.48 # amiconn: that sounds great 13.19.14 # I don't know how much this will affect browsing experience, 13.19.44 # because the sublist entering / leaving will then trigger on the release instead of the press 13.19.59 # hm? 13.20.00 # ...i.e. a bit later 13.20.15 # we have to change more for that? 13.20.26 # or just edit the key-bindings for the scrolling patch for ondio? 13.20.33 # Not just edit 13.20.35 # ok 13.20.55 # It needs this _PRE thingy to distinguish short <-> long press 13.22.12 # ok, so we have to change the menu button assignments? 13.23.35 Quit ender` (" I was trying to daydream, but my mind kept wandering.") 13.25.53 Quit AliasCoffee ("Leaving") 13.32.53 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 13.36.08 Quit ender` (Client Quit) 13.37.08 # does any1 use the calendar plugin? 13.39.29 # i would, but i have only the H120 JdGordon 13.39.47 # or is there a patch for the H100 series? 13.39.51 # do u know if it is ideal to show a weekly timetable? 13.39.58 # doubt there is 13.40.30 # well, i have only seen some pictures 13.44.21 Join SteL [0] (n=stel@slawson.plus.com) 13.50.32 Quit Matze ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 13.51.03 # I use RockCalendar 13.51.19 # is it useable to show a weekly timetable? 13.51.31 # no 13.51.38 # ok.. 13.51.48 # to the coding cave batman.... 13.51.57 # sorry... ive gone loony 13.52.01 # hehe 13.52.46 Ctcp Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 25 minutes and 44 seconds at the last flood 13.52.46 # * JdGordon really needs to be able to have the timetable on the iriv instead of in my damn wallet :p , too much hassle when its printed 13.53.40 # has someone battery_benched his H300, yet? 13.54.20 # JdGordon: I want it too. 13.55.00 # ive only got a h300 so thats my main target... ideally it wont be hard to move to other targets... 13.55.48 # I have H120, H320. :) 13.56.13 # haha, lifes tough aye? :D 13.56.45 # hehe 13.57.32 # * JdGordon needs to set up his 3rd monitor to code properly :'( 13.57.43 # but its too damn hot for 3 crts 13.58.01 Join ep0ch [0] (n=ep0ch@84.12.84.114) 13.58.06 # yeah 13.58.55 # hi, where can i find out more about what the horizontal scrolling patch does? cant find anything about it... 13.59.27 # hmm? 13.59.59 # * JdGordon is curios about that also 14.00.27 # 05.06.36 # update, and then use ON+RIGHT/LEFT on the fileviewer, and you'll understand 14.00.44 # ok 14.01.14 # I didn't know it too. 14.01.25 # ahh 14.01.34 # But, I know now. 14.01.54 # 05.07.40 # jungti: i will update the wikimanual soon :) 14.05.44 Quit Kohlrabi (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.06.27 # hows rockboy going? useable yet? 14.07.09 # ? 14.07.24 # last time i tried it it was too slow to actually use 14.07.29 # no 14.07.32 # fast 14.07.33 # :) 14.07.46 # mario? 14.07.49 # yes 14.07.53 # wooohooo 14.07.55 # :D 14.07.57 # It supports frameskip automatically. 14.08.20 # I have much interesting game. 14.08.24 # ? 14.08.25 # hmm what are like the top 10 gameboy games? 14.09.08 # top 10? :) 14.09.09 # doesn't everyone own tetris? 14.09.39 # i know nothing about gameboy games with the exception of mario and tetris 14.09.55 # hahaha 14.10.56 Join ST [0] (i=STx@c211-31-10-10.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 14.11.36 # ep0ch: same.. i never had a gameboy 14.12.06 # hey all 14.12.07 # http://www.rom-world.com/ 14.12.19 Join Febs [0] (n=medifebb@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 14.12.22 # thanx... u prob shouldnt post that here tho 14.12.33 # freenode doesnt like that sorta thing 14.12.37 # Tetris is there! 14.12.50 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 14.13.00 # http://www.rom-world.com/dl.php?name=Gameboy 14.13.49 # hmm its probably not a good idea posting links to roms in here 14.14.40 # why? 14.14.51 # http://web.gamezi.net:8000/~gamezi/bbs/zboard.php?id=emulgame27&category=13 14.15.35 # hehe 14.15.52 # http://web.gamezi.net:8000/~gamezi/bbs/zboard.php?id=emulgame27&category=12 - GB 14.16.27 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@mrbg-d9b94b2d.pool.mediaWays.net) 14.16.29 # You don't know Korean... ^^; 14.18.25 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 14.18.28 # linuxstb: is it possible to do something like press stop on the h300 when its plugged into usb mode so it automatically unmounts and turns off instead of doing it with windows which is a pain? 14.19.39 # hrm, how is the device going to tell windows you want to disconnect it? 14.19.55 # it cant auto-unmount itself? 14.20.02 # * JdGordon thought it coudl 14.20.22 # how is it goign to know if windows has committed everything to disk yet? 14.20.31 Part ep0ch ("Kopete 0.11 : http://kopete.kde.org") 14.20.40 # hmm.. good point... 14.20.44 # * JdGordon is a dill 14.21.01 # actually no.. i blame my stupidity on the 2 43C days weve had here 14.21.04 # it's theorethically possible by installing a driver for windows ;-) 14.21.05 # in a row 14.21.12 Quit Membrillo () 14.21.17 # i hear you on that 14.21.20 # fricking roasting today :( 14.21.34 Join paugh [0] (n=kickback@2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:8000:0:3e03:6822) 14.21.47 # the driver would listen and the player sends an request to unmount the device to the pc 14.22.00 # Rondom: how? 14.22.11 # the player uses a standard ums-storage chip 14.22.14 # I'm not sure if it is possible 14.22.33 # ^^ that's what has just come into my mind 14.22.34 # so far as i know (i could be mistaken) there's no way for the player to add usb packets when it's active. 14.23.17 # it'd be nice if it could, but then you'd want to just build it into the usb-storage chip itself, and signal that 14.24.21 # ashridah: maybe putting a file on the disk 14.24.29 # but polling isn't good 14.24.43 # if the usb-storage chip is active, rockbox does not have disk access 14.25.14 # * Rondom should better not talk about things he doesn't know about 14.25.23 # :D 14.27.46 Quit ST () 14.27.57 # (0,0) is top left correct? not bottom left? 14.28.03 # (in rb) 14.28.06 # on the lcd 14.29.30 # if i have volume at -45dB do i know how much power the earphones consume? 14.30.15 # depends on the earphones 14.30.22 # and the amp 14.33.28 # MDR-ED31 headphones with a 16 Ohm / HP impedance, 108 dB / mW 14.33.32 # whats the amp? 14.34.32 # the headphone amp in the iriver 14.34.42 # hmm 14.34.54 # so thats a point we didnt knew, right? 14.35.09 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-51-108.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) 14.35.32 # preglow do you think that battery time can get very high if we make a test without earphones connected? 14.35.40 Quit Jungti1234 () 14.35.44 # i don't think it'll matter too much 14.36.04 # because I did some tests without phones. 14.36.37 # I did the test twice with volume 50 (old system) and volume 0 (new system) and there results were the same. 14.38.58 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.39.29 Quit San||Away (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.39.39 # Ill make some power consumption measurements with Multimeter now. 14.40.28 # Do you think I can use the AC plug when I check if the charger is disabled (charging pin at GPIO) ? 14.41.57 # practical tests should always be done with earphones 14.42.21 # since people are going to refer to your results for practical use 14.42.58 # i made my benches with phones at -45dB 14.43.00 # ^^ 14.43.17 # now ill check the power consumption with and without 14.43.50 # how do i draw text to the lcd? just rb->lcd_puts(); or is there more that needs to eb done? 14.46.25 # you need to update the screen too 14.46.26 # lcd_update 14.46.37 # ye, but nothing else? it doesnt work... 14.46.51 # that should be enough 14.47.47 Join Sacro [0] (n=root@adsl-83-100-174-192.karoo.KCOM.COM) 14.48.09 # nop, blank screen.... 14.49.40 # Slasheri: Nice work with the "pops", "clicks", "tst" (call it what you want). I couldn't get and sort of them while seeking. Also changing folders I think went smooth. I got a small one when I was changing tracks while the buffer was filling. 14.49.49 # I will do some more tests. 14.52.23 # grr.... ok, my maths must be off... 14.55.03 Quit Hansmaulwurf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.55.21 # preglow: soz, whats the diff between puts and putsxy? 14.55.28 # Where is the A-B option in iriver? 14.55.41 # ops sorry just found it 14.56.12 # ah, ok, dw.. badly named funcs 14.57.38 # ok I found the A-B option but which button triggers it? 14.59.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.02.06 # ayone? 15.03.24 # rec+left : set A point 15.03.30 # rec+right : set B point 15.03.40 # rec+stop : clear points 15.03.49 # that's on H300 15.03.51 # Slasheri: While your fix works if someone skips one folder (Hold PLAY + RIGHT/LEFT), If I press this combo twice I will get the same odd behaviour. (The first track of the folder will start for 0.5s and then it will restart) 15.04.00 Join tucoz [0] (n=81b17b04@labb.contactor.se) 15.04.20 # XavierGr, where did you find the option? 15.04.45 # The A-B option that is 15.04.49 Join lamed [0] (n=d4b3395e@labb.contactor.se) 15.04.57 # hello all. 15.05.00 # it is in the reapet modes 15.05.03 # Amiconn: around? 15.05.07 # hi lamed 15.05.17 # ok, thanks 15.05.20 # hi man! 15.07.40 # Do that work on the h1x0 ? I can not get it to work 15.07.42 # tucoz for some reason I can't get it to work. 15.07.43 # amiconn: I agree with what you said about |we could use BUTTON_(LEFT|RIGHT) | BUTTON_REPEAT instead| for the screen_scroll patch. I was thinking the same, but i didn't wanted to mess around already-existed keybinds. btw the ipoders might like using long clicks on the forward and backwards buttons. 15.07.54 # if you find out how please tell me 15.07.59 # lol 15.08.21 # :) Seems like it gets stuck on ffw and rew. 15.08.24 # Slasheri thanks for the compliments :D I Was trying to tell you guys it's the greatest patch for a loongg time!! 15.08.50 # lamed: you wrote the scroll patch? 15.09.07 # yepp 15.09.19 # XavierGr: rec+left : set A point 15.09.23 # rec+right : set B point 15.09.28 # rec+stop : clear points 15.09.34 # Rec+Anything won't work on H1x0 15.09.38 # NicoFR you can't REC+ anything except ON 15.09.43 # ok sorry 15.09.43 # muhahahha 15.09.49 # NicoFR: Thanks but it wont work 15.09.54 # hehehe 15.10.04 # lamed: good work. I never imagined that I it would be this usefull, but I am convinced now :) 15.10.05 # The only possible 'shift' button on H1x0 is Play (BUTTON_ON) 15.10.10 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 15.10.12 # so amiconn, will A-B work on H100? 15.10.45 # Not with the current keybinding 15.10.59 # oh okay, thanks 15.11.30 # t0mas: last night me and lostlogic were talking about short ON+LEFT/RIGHT for AB repeat, and long ON+LEFT/RIGHT for folder change. that will cure the keybinding problem (btw with the same trick as the one that will be used at the fileview) 15.11.45 # tucoz thanksss 15.12.03 Join webguest63 [0] (n=18d79bd6@labb.contactor.se) 15.12.04 # Slasheri did quite a nice job with pops. Only one I can trace is with the TWICE (or more) change folder behaviour, that I said earlier. 15.12.22 # how does the horizontal scrolling work on the h120? 15.12.27 # (and I hope you all guys are reading the log) 15.12.37 # and what's "screen scrolls out of view"? 15.12.43 # 14.00.27 # 05.06.36 # update, and then use ON+RIGHT/LEFT on the fileviewer, and you'll understand 15.12.45 # webguest63: in the file menu hold on + left/right 15.12.57 # :) 15.13.00 # i wonder if using a software enveloping function would help reduce pops completely 15.13.06 Quit paugh ("Leaving") 15.13.31 # did Slasheri use the trick from the uda docs? 15.14.01 # for pop-prevention 15.14.02 # ah 15.14.29 # btw the reason why scroll out of view is turned off by default, is that you can get the text totally out of view and I imagin some users won't Like it. 15.14.54 # i see 15.15.00 # how about horizontal scrolling? 15.15.11 # lamed: Btw, I think the horizontal scrolling looks really odd (sometimes confusing) with 'scroll out of view' switched off 15.15.37 # webgues63, isn't that what you do with on+left/right? 15.15.56 # FIXME: the Right boundery for the screen_scroll is fake. (just set to 1000 pixels.) The real way would be to check what's the longest item in list by pixels and set this as the maximum marker. 15.16.15 # amiconn I was just refering to that. 15.16.21 # oh tat's what it is?> 15.16.30 # amiconn: I agree with what you said about |we could use BUTTON_(LEFT|RIGHT) | BUTTON_REPEAT instead| for the screen_scroll patch. I was thinking the same, but i didn't wanted to mess around already-existed keybinds. btw the ipoders might like using long clicks on the forward and backwards buttons. 15.16.36 # oh right, nvmd i got confused with "vertical scrolling" for text 15.16.42 # which i thought was the one that was added 15.17.05 Part tucoz 15.17.29 # t0mas: last night me and lostlogic were talking about short ON+LEFT/RIGHT for AB repeat, and long ON+LEFT/RIGHT for folder change. that will cure the keybinding problem (btw with the same trick as the one that will be used at the fileview) (amiconn) 15.18.23 Quit Rondom (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 15.18.33 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.18.38 Join tucoz [0] (n=81b17b04@labb.contactor.se) 15.18.56 # linuxstb, and all other ipod 5G owners. http://forums.ilounge.com/showthread.php?threadid=144425 15.19.20 # Seems like the headphones could be damaged by the 5g's 15.20.00 # hahaha 15.20.06 # i wonder how that's possible 15.21.29 # (just testing) 15.21.45 # someone had a suggestion that the tv-out somehow manage to send the video signal to the headphones aswell. 15.22.00 # hehe, I sent the last message before the (just testing) 15.22.40 # anyway. beware all you video-ipodders. see you 15.22.44 Part tucoz 15.23.08 # hmm 15.23.18 # i doubt the video output is enabled until you use it 15.23.20 # and besides 15.23.34 # i doubt a high freq signal can fuck up an earbud 15.24.28 # i've seeb horses puke 15.24.32 # (as we say) 15.24.33 # ;) 15.24.36 # seen 15.25.04 # haha 15.25.11 # i've seen horses do A Lot, but not puke 15.25.39 # thats just an idion that says, nothin is impossible 15.25.49 # idiom 15.25.54 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.26.12 # haha, new one 15.29.16 # :) 15.31.56 Quit kernelsensei (Remote closed the connection) 15.31.59 Join kernelsensei [0] (n=boris@unaffiliated/kernelsensei) 15.35.54 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 15.37.19 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 15.49.17 # BuG: NO usb reconazation while using rockboy! 15.50.38 # you mean recognition? 15.50.50 # do you need usb in rockboy? :> 15.50.53 Join thegeek_ [0] (i=na@s036b.studby.ntnu.no) 15.53.20 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 15.53.20 Quit webguest63 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 15.54.38 # lamed: USB-detection patch for Rockboy would be welcome :) http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxUsbHandling 15.54.49 # hey, can anyone acces to this video ? 15.54.51 # http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7782472714202708793&q=n 15.55.02 # it says it's not accessible to my country 15.55.24 # mirak: i got it here 15.55.32 # the video, not the message 15.55.40 Join perplexity [0] (i=heh31099@217.165.99.160) 15.55.43 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ipa25.7.tellas.gr) 15.56.25 # Sacro: where do you live ? 15.56.46 # mirak: England 15.56.52 # I am in france 15.56.58 # im sorry 15.57.03 # :P 15.57.04 # lol 15.57.15 # I though it would have been a US stuff 15.57.18 # weird 15.57.25 # I might find the time this week, with the ab repeat new keybinds for iriver & screen_scrolll new keybinds idea. cya all 15.57.27 Quit lamed ("CGI:IRC") 15.57.32 # Sacro: what's the size of the video Sacro ? 15.58.11 # I will download it out of emule 15.58.14 # doesnt say 15.58.33 Quit Febs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.01.53 # "shake hands with beef" is that an english expression ? 16.02.05 # what's the meaning of that ? 16.02.20 # my nano does indeed usa a noticable amount of power when sleeping 16.03.01 # Is that Apple's sleep or Rockbox sleep? 16.04.08 # apple sleep 16.04.28 # Good. 16.04.34 # i just kept it sleeping for around twelve hours, and the battery meter was noticably slimmer when i turned it on 16.05.28 # I need help 16.05.47 # mirak: never heard that expression 16.06.41 # Im doing power consumption measurements on my H300 16.06.51 Join Mmmm [0] (n=mscarrat@cpc2-hem13-3-1-cust77.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 16.07.09 # atm im checking the disc consumption 16.07.26 Quit thegeek (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.07.41 # I have NO PHONES / VOLUME0 / BL always ON 16.07.57 # And i am in PAUSE mode. 16.07.58 Quit mikearthur (Remote closed the connection) 16.08.14 # consumption: 159mA 16.08.17 # 150mA 16.08.26 # PRESSING RIGHT 16.08.42 # => START SPINNING => 490mA max 16.08.56 # READING => 410-420mA max 16.09.05 # SPINNING => 260mA 16.09.07 # OK so far 16.09.18 # but now, after disc stops spinning 16.09.28 # I have a power consumption of 190mA 16.09.32 # not 150mA 16.09.34 # ^^ 16.09.49 # Charger is disabled (checked GPIO pin) 16.10.00 # NOW! I press PLAY AND PAUSE 16.10.20 # and im back at 150mA 16.10.51 # WHY the unit stays after loading a new song at 190mA in PAUSE mode _UNTIL_ I pressed PLAY/PAUSE 16.10.59 # strange! And what's the consumption with headphones? 16.11.14 # ill up my txt in some minutes 16.11.27 # okay nice 16.13.41 # ah 16.13.44 # I know why 16.14.05 # after loading the new track the CPU stays at 124MHz ! 16.14.10 # in PAUSE mode 16.14.28 Quit thegeek_ ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 16.16.21 # Amiconn...are you there? I found something that you broke! :) 16.18.32 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 16.19.00 Quit Sacro (Remote closed the connection) 16.19.21 # Mmmm: What's broken/ 16.19.23 # ? 16.19.57 Quit uwe_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.20.01 Join Sacro [0] (n=root@adsl-83-100-174-192.karoo.KCOM.COM) 16.20.03 # when you turn off the player (on h140) the sound doesnt switch off anymore until the player is off 16.20.20 Join uwe_ [0] (n=uwe@p54995506.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.20.21 # it used to swithch off when the turning off prompt came off 16.20.36 # which was very useful when not looking! 16.20.53 # Why do you say it's amiconn who broke it? 16.21.05 # jens committed it 16.21.07 # Have you found the offending commit? 16.21.12 # yep 16.21.16 Join San||Away [0] (n=test@213-202-161-180.bas503.dsl.esat.net) 16.21.18 # easy fix: #define WPS_RC_EXIT (BUTTON_RC_STOP | BUTTON_REL) 16.21.18 # #define WPS_RC_EXIT_PRE BUTTON_RC_STOP 16.21.30 # in hwps.h 16.21.36 # gwps.h 16.21.36 # Ah, so does it just affect the remote? 16.21.59 # nope, also: #define WPS_EXIT BUTTON_OFF 16.21.59 # #define WPS_EXIT_PRE (BUTTON_OFF | BUTTON_REL) 16.22.50 Quit mikearthur (Remote closed the connection) 16.22.56 # commit was on 13th jan....I've only just updated my build so was slow to spot it! :) 16.23.59 # OK. I'm sure amiconn will read this in the logs. 16.24.39 # http://www.skyhoppel.de/rob/H300/H300_power_consumption.txt 16.26.30 # XavierGr: Got it? 16.26.40 # Actually i reprted it wrong! :D the sound now switches off immediately instead of waiting! 16.27.49 # That was the intention of the patch. 16.28.07 # all add USB Mode power consumption... 16.28.40 # Mmmm: So is there a problem? 16.29.11 # yeah... When you're not looking you cant tell whether it's switched off yet! 16.29.40 # and I'm never looking! :D 16.30.25 # Ah, so when you shut down your player, you want the audio to keep playing until the unit actually powers off? 16.30.39 # But the new behaviour is for playback to stop as soon as stop is pressed? 16.30.52 # no, just untill the "shutting down" screen comes up 16.30.56 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 16.31.06 # wow I am again sseing alive arrestation 16.31.12 # from by room window 16.31.14 # why does this matter at all? 16.32.00 # Linuxstb: then you know when you can release the stop button, safe in the knowledge it will switch off 16.32.13 Quit ender` (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16.33.25 # The 4 lines of code I mentioned fix this perfectly! 16.33.27 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 16.37.07 Quit Sacro ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12") 16.37.12 # Preglow: were you talking to me or mirak? 16.37.20 # morning it is. 16.39.36 # Mmmm: no 16.39.46 # you 16.39.48 # Mmmm: just I seen an arrest in my street 16.40.13 # Mmmm: sounds like a really useful feature. Most of the time I am shutting down my unit without looking, too 16.40.20 # Rob2222: Quite interesting results. 16.40.33 # Could you upload them to the wiki. 16.40.36 # ? 16.40.46 # Mirak: ooh, preglow: solex says it all! :) 16.40.58 # Mmmm: IIUC, the problem was that before it took a while for the WPS to react to the stop button being pressed - so the user didn't know if it was registered or not. Does your patch change that? 16.41.20 # Also, it seems that testing without phones didn't showed a spoiled result. 16.42.58 # aggh, i want to create a menu that allows the user to pick a color, this will get more complicated when costom collors are added, so i think it should have its own file and not clutter up the settings_menu.c 16.43.05 # linuxstb: hmmm it seems it needs two presses now! Now I see what amiconn was up to! 16.43.18 # i cant get the other file to work properly 16.43.32 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A46048.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.44.12 # wow man there is also a building on fire 16.45.38 # linuxstb: ahh I got the lines the wrong way around! tsk :) Testing again.... 16.45.45 # you're living in downtown brooklyn or what? 16.46.34 # mirak: Firefly did, he just entered the channel! ;) 16.46.40 # add ^ it 16.49.07 # Linuxstb: it seems to work fine for me! 16.49.23 # Mmmm: There is a reason why I did these changes. The old way (triggering on the release) was very unresponsive. 16.49.51 # hmm, there's gotta be another way than a lock to keep playback sane on weird actions. can't afford to have a lock involved in functions that may be called several times per decde callback. 16.49.55 # It often happened that I thought the unit doesn't react to STOP because I pressed it too long 16.49.55 # decode 16.50.04 # ...and there is no reason to trigger 16.50.18 # on the release, because we don't use long presses 16.50.37 # amiconn:(except to turn off) I've been pressing play and stop now for a while and it seems ok! 16.51.17 # I don't really understand what this change may have broken 16.51.54 # when you switch the unit off, now you cant tell when to let go of stop (unless you are looking at the screen) 16.53.27 # Hmm, I won't have noticed this. I *always* stop playback before shutting down 16.54.12 # However, if this small mapping change causes the change in behaviour, then something is wrong with the code doing that does the stop-on-shutdown 16.54.37 # s/that does// 16.56.17 # aah... I havent looked at that, I just undid your change and noticed the functionality came back 16.57.11 Join musahi [0] (n=musahi1@abop131.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 16.57.21 # My guess: Instead of properly checking for a shutdown event and stopping playback in response to that, the code might check the button events 16.58.47 # line 623 gwps.c - # ifdef WPS_EXIT_PRE what's that space for after #?? 16.58.48 # <_FireFly_> XavierGr: what have i done ?? 16.59.35 Part musahi 16.59.44 Join musahi [0] (n=musahi1@abop131.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 16.59.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.59.47 # Mmmm: just indenting, has no function 17.00.00 # so like commenting out? 17.00.20 # no, the space changes nothing, as is standard in C 17.00.43 # oh, ok.. my text editor doesn't like it! :) 17.01.12 Quit musahi () 17.01.48 # can it be, that the iriver FW has better MP3 decoding? 17.01.55 # == less power? 17.02.14 # Rob2222: sure, the mp3 encoder is very new 17.02.17 # Firefly: Only joking (though it was a bad one) mirak said (just before you enter) that a building next to him was on fire. 17.02.33 Quit mikearthur (Connection timed out) 17.02.35 # <_FireFly_> lol 17.02.36 # I'm going to do something _very_ strange... and try to put the swcodec engine into UML. 17.02.36 Quit San||Away (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.02.43 Quit akaidiot (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.02.49 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 17.02.49 # Rob2222: Dod you have the power consumption from iriver firmware? 17.03.09 # what is the minimum things to #include for a new .c file? 17.03.20 # pi: there isn't one 17.03.30 # XavierGr: doing iriver measurements atm 17.04.06 # hmm, i keep getting - undefined refference to 'color_menu' 17.04.09 # ood.... 17.04.20 # I mean good.... 17.04.22 # Mmmm: Wanna try something? 17.04.34 # of course... 17.04.47 # In gwps.c: 17.04.49 # Pi: you neet to include any particular header that your program uses... 17.05.06 # - Change lines 650ff (case SYS_POWEROFF) to read as follows: 17.05.14 # case SYS_POWEROFF: 17.05.22 # exit = true; 17.05.24 # break; 17.05.54 # what about the bookmark? 17.06.00 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-154-160-47.bna.bellsouth.net) 17.06.10 # in the main program, if i write include color_menu.c it works 17.06.26 # Then go further down to line 694 (just above the #ifdef AB_REPEAT_ENABLE) and insert the following lines: 17.06.51 # if (button == SYS_POWEROFF) 17.06.54 # default_event_handler(SYS_POWEROFF); 17.07.02 # That should do the trick. 17.07.19 # The bookmarks will be handled by the standard exit path 17.08.05 # ok....I'm on it... 17.09.32 # <_FireFly_> Pi why do you want ro include a source-file(*.c) >> 17.09.37 # <_FireFly_> s/ro/to 17.09.45 # The idea is that a shutdown event will trigger a stop in exactly the same way as WPS_QUIT, let the standard exit path do some of its work (including audio stop), and then call the standard poweroff code 17.10.12 # it works when i include the source file but not when i include only the header 17.10.50 # <_FireFly_> Pi do you programm for rb or a standalone app ?? 17.10.55 # amiconn:So that last bit of code is right after audio_stop(); ? 17.11.01 # yup 17.11.06 # rb 17.11.26 # ok, and I'll redo your original fix.... 17.11.33 # Pi: _Never_ include a .c file, that's baad style 17.11.34 # <_FireFly_> Pi is color_menu.c from you ?? 17.12.04 Join Matze [0] (i=Miranda@p5484F912.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.12.17 # _FireFly_ yes i wrote it 17.12.33 # <_FireFly_> color_menu.c must also be included in the compile-stage 17.12.38 # amiconn: that is why i am trying to fix 17.12.41 # <_FireFly_> then you can simply use the header 17.13.03 Quit NicoFR () 17.13.47 Quit SteL (Connection timed out) 17.14.08 # i keep getting the error undefined refference to 'color_menu' 17.14.40 Join SteL [0] (n=stel@slawson.plus.com) 17.14.49 # <_FireFly_> can you paste the whole error-msg-line 17.14.55 # amiconn: do you want WPS_EXIT_PRE defined too with that? 17.15.07 # There is no _PRE 17.15.16 # needed 17.15.26 # /rockbox/build/apps/settings_menu.o: In function 'background_color_menu': 17.15.26 # /rockbox/apps/settings_menu.hc:1510: undefined refference to 'color_menu' 17.15.54 # <_FireFly_> ?? settings_menu.hc ?? 17.15.58 # amiconn: ahhh....that's what i thought....sound still stops the second you press stop! :( 17.16.25 # Hmm, I think that's what you wanted... 17.16.27 # .c 17.16.34 # i cant type 17.16.34 # <_FireFly_> Pi is color_menu only defined in color_menu.c 17.16.48 # <_FireFly_> Pi why not copy and paste it :) 17.16.55 # Pi: Why type? There is copy-n-paste... 17.16.55 # defined there and in the header 17.17.15 # <_FireFly_> Pi how is it defined ?? 17.17.21 # i cany coppy from the cmd window 17.17.40 # <_FireFly_> you can 17.17.41 # int color_menu (unsigned *ref); 17.17.50 # Mmmm: It seems I don't undertsand the problem. 17.18.44 # amiconn: sound should stop instantly if you press stop but it should wait if you hold stop until "shutting down" is shown and then sound should stop 17.19.09 # Hmm..... 17.19.16 # do you see what i mean? 17.19.27 # here is color_menu.c http://rafb.net/paste/results/O90Iay52.html 17.20.17 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-130-230.pools.arcor-ip.net) 17.20.42 # hmm, i fixed that problem a long time ago.. or do you mean it will stop immediately when you are on the file tree? 17.20.48 # it has still that issue 17.20.48 # Mmmm: Hmm, there are confliciting requirements. I also want it to stop immediately, but if you trigger the audio stop on release, it's not instant 17.21.07 # ...and since stop isn't even immediate, I ended up pressing too long 17.21.34 # ...causing it not to stop, and me thinking the unit doesn't react to button presses 17.21.49 # ahhh your problem then is you dont release immediately when stopping! 17.22.12 # Yes, probably for two reasons 17.22.16 # <_FireFly_> Pi: have you added color_menu.c to the SOURCE-file and does it get compiled ?? 17.22.30 # then i just think it should not stop if pressed longer but long enough.. 17.22.32 # (1) The H1x0 buttons give almost no mechanical feedback 17.22.44 # so user could "cancel" that button press 17.22.53 # +not 17.23.10 Join guituser47 [0] (n=guituser@213-140-21-239.fastres.net) 17.23.11 # _FireFly_: what do you mean? 17.23.14 # amiconn: that's why I never noticed a problem before....I always just tap stop to sop playback! 17.23.14 # (2) Stop isn't immediate even now. 17.23.36 # chi è italiano? 17.24.15 # Mmmm: With the old behaviour, sometimes it took me several (3..5) presses of Stop until it really stopped. This was annoying 17.24.41 # Either I didn't press hard enough, so the button didn't register, or I pressed too long 17.24.54 # <_FireFly_> Pi: in apps there is a SOURCES-file this file holds all source-files in the apps-dir which should be compiled, depending on the target 17.25.05 # really? I've been sitting here pressing play and stop with the old code for 15 mins and never a prob! :) 17.25.15 # ahh thanks will try there 17.25.32 # <_FireFly_> you must add new source-files to this file so that they get compiled 17.25.36 # this is interesting.. i have never had that problem 17.25.40 # <_FireFly_> maybe a reconfigure is needed 17.25.42 # Mmmm: I think I have a solution.... 17.25.50 Join Philip_0729 [0] (n=Philip_0@user-6767.l6.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk) 17.26.18 # * Mmmm waits eagerly for amiconns solution.... 17.26.25 # and i found it very annoying when the playback before stopped immediately when i pressed stop and i couldn't tell when the unit has been shutdown unless i took it out of pocket 17.26.53 # Revert to old behaviour, but do *not* define WPS_EXIT_PRE 17.26.56 # Slasheri: that's exactly my point :) 17.27.02 # :) 17.27.21 # This way, both short and long presses will trigger the exit on release 17.27.22 # amiconn: ahhh...I'll give it a go... 17.27.33 Part guituser47 17.27.51 # It might be that this causes unwanted wps_exit when leaving a menu 17.28.45 # If this is the case, we will need WPS_EXIT_PRE and WPS_EXIT_PRE2, both being a valid precondition for WPS_EXIT 17.29.26 # #define WPS_EXIT_PRE BUTTON_OFF 17.29.46 # #define WPS_EXIT_PRE2 (BUTTON_OFF | BUTTON_REPEAT) 17.29.59 # #define WPS_XIT (BUTTON_OFF | BUTTON_REL) 17.30.25 # and then change line 624 of gwps.c to 17.30.51 # if (lastbutton != WPS_EXIT_PRE && lastbutton != WPS_EXIT_PRE2) 17.31.35 # Equivalent changes will be needed for remote, of course 17.33.48 # when do you think there may be unwanted wps_exit ? when you press stop in menu? do people really do that? :D 17.34.32 # yes 17.34.44 # Stop is one way of leaving menus 17.34.54 # Yep, pressing stop at bottom of menu tree exits wps. i'll try PRE2 17.35.29 # linuxstb: btw, wiki says tick timer isn't accurate, and i'm pretty sure it is 17.37.12 # You wrote that :) 17.37.18 # (I think...) 17.37.28 # XavierGr: http://www.skyhoppel.de/rob/H300/H300_power_consumption.txt 17.37.35 # and all others who are interested 17.38.02 # We should probably test it by comparing against the ipod's microsecond timer. A plugin could do that. 17.38.27 # The interesting thing is that it seems, the iriver firmware doesnt need to boost the CPU. 17.38.38 # Or a debug option - it could be useful for other targets with RTC 17.38.51 # 3 minutes i checked no boost while playing 128kbit ABR 17.39.00 # 128kbps shouldn't boost 17.39.05 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@p5486400E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.40.34 # my unit did 17.40.36 # Rob2222: Afaik the iriver firmware uses a different concept. Instead of having a base cpu clock and temporarily switching to a high clock (like rockbox does), the iriver firmware uses fixed cpu clocks depending on the status & codec 17.40.51 # yeah, looks like 17.40.58 # linuxstb: doesn't panicf() work on rockbox yet? 17.41.02 # This is less flexible 17.41.05 # ehh, ipod 17.41.20 # but iriver needs less pover then RB-nonboost 17.41.26 # -v+w 17.41.47 # preglow: I don't know. I've never done anything specifically to make it work. 17.42.41 # amiconn: IT WORKS!!! 17.43.10 Join gtkspert [0] (n=gtkspert@203-59-207-7.dyn.iinet.net.au) 17.43.16 # now to see to that remote... 17.43.24 # what works? 17.43.46 # Rob2222: These measurements are rather imprecise. I suspect the charger continues to consume power even in indicated-full state 17.44.26 # A precise method would be to open up the unit, disconnect the battery, and connect a regulated lab power supply set to 4.00V instead of the battery 17.45.13 # Then the lab power supply (or a separate amperemeter) will give precise readings 17.45.16 # why should the charger charge without indicate it on the charge pin? 17.45.26 # I will do this sooner or later, at least with my H140 17.45.33 # Also the H300 is known to have less battery time that default firmware, right. 17.45.34 # yes, sure. a lab power supply would be more precise 17.45.39 # (for evaluating deep-sleep mde) 17.45.45 # I should do the same test on my H100. 17.45.48 # but i did all measurements more than 1 time 17.46.08 # But I don't think that my multimeter will do a good job.... 17.46.28 # XavierGr: Yes, that's known. I have plans to make the gfx drawing significantly faster, as this is consuming a lot of CPU time right now 17.47.37 # That needs changes in font format & handling, and it practically requires linuxstb's bmp-in-build-system patch 17.48.22 Join petur [0] (i=petur@d54C1B62E.access.telenet.be) 17.49.04 # The gfx drawing speed will hopefully increase by factors ... 17.49.17 # will this be h3x0 specific or 16 bit specific code? :> 17.51.24 # amiconn: here's a patch then for the off/stop issue...: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/martin.scarratt/offstop.patch 17.51.26 # A bit of both 17.55.05 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.56.36 # oops..small error there, I've re-uploaded a correct one... 17.58.28 Join ender1 [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 18.04.14 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-154-160-47.bna.bellsouth.net) 18.06.31 Quit Kohlrabi (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.07.15 Join tulkas [0] (n=528a18e1@labb.contactor.se) 18.07.24 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-130-230.pools.arcor-ip.net) 18.07.25 # hi 18.07.38 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 18.08.01 # do you know how to open .mi4 file? 18.08.36 Quit tulkas (Client Quit) 18.11.25 Quit ender` (Connection timed out) 18.13.35 Quit SteL (Connection timed out) 18.14.35 Join SteL [0] (n=stel@slawson.plus.com) 18.17.34 # Slasheri: adding the mutex to pcmbuf cost ~4% boost on my test track 18.17.55 # lostlogic: oh :/ 18.18.12 # so then we should find other we to protect those functions 18.18.30 # Slasheri: I'm working on graphing out playback.c, pcmbuf.c and pcm_playback.c to see what's goin' on with it. 18.18.49 # and I think I've got another tweak for the pcmbuf_callback which will get back the 4% for now ;) 18.19.07 # hehe, sounds cool ;) 18.19.27 # if only I could quit messing up my test case 18.22.54 Quit DrumRBoy320|Away (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.23.01 Join Nanji [0] (i=Nanji@spe-95-120.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU) 18.26.04 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.26.07 # I cannot for the life of me figure out why inlining pcmbuf_num_used_buffers hurts performance by multiple %. 18.26.39 # it's a 4 instruction function, should be an ideal inlining candidate. 18.27.04 # hmz... 18.27.13 # I've seen weird things in that cases too... 18.27.54 # recursive function calling (calculation gcd iwth euclids algorithm) is sometimes faster than using a while loop 18.27.57 # really weird 18.29.25 # I guess JSR is fairly cheap if the called function only uses scratch registers and takes no arguments (as in this case) 18.31.02 # hi....i am a newbie to rockbox, i just installed Rockbox on my iriver h340 and it plays all fine, but.... 18.31.09 # how do i charge my player through USB now? 18.31.42 # lostlogic: I guess so... 18.31.52 # mine was on x86, with 2 arguments... 18.31.59 # lostlogic: how often is it called? 18.32.09 # can anyone help me?... 18.32.22 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 18.32.26 # Nanji: I have no idea... can't you just plug it in? 18.32.28 # Nanji: iirc hold record while using bootloader USB mode 18.32.35 DBUG Enqueued KICK Nanji 18.32.35 # it says USB mode...that' 14¡º3t0mas14¡» 18.32.44 # it fails 14¡º14Philip_072914¡» 18.32.56 # fail??? 18.33.14 *** Alert Mode level 1 18.33.14 # o nvm, now it works...i was trying to boot to iriver firmware at first 14¡º7Philip_072914¡» 18.33.41 # thx all 18.34.05 Join slimx [0] (n=slimx@vau75-7-82-234-251-56.fbx.proxad.net) 18.34.29 # lo all 18.34.29 # preglow: dma interrupt handler 18.35.34 # now i've got a compiled ipod3g bootloader to test 18.36.19 # can someone tell me how-to try it ;-) ? 18.36.49 # Nanji: lol having told you how to do it... it won't work for me ;) 18.36.50 Quit manhattan () 18.36.58 *** Alert Mode level 2 18.36.58 # llol 14¡º8Philip_072914¡» 18.37.00 Join Luthion [0] (n=NNSCRIPT@177.80-202-211.nextgentel.com) 18.37.13 *** Alert Mode level 3 18.37.13 # my battery is dying though :( 14¡º12Philip_072914¡» 18.37.16 # slimx: Do the same as if you were installing the ipodlinux bootloader - but replace their "loader.bin" with your "bootloader.bin" 18.37.44 # k thx 18.37.51 # Or follow these instructions: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodBoot 18.38.04 # (which are basically the same as ipodlinux) 18.38.38 Join Chamois [0] (n=Florian@bro67-3-82-231-134-112.fbx.proxad.net) 18.38.39 # i've seen some code that load a linux.bin 18.39.02 # in bootloader/ipod.c 18.39.37 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 18.39.43 # slimx: The first step is just to get your bootloader displaying something on the lcd - that's very a big step. 18.39.46 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@85-64-200-85.barak-online.net) 18.39.59 # hey hey :p 18.40.10 # i guess you're right 18.40.18 # :) 18.40.41 Quit dpassen1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.40.51 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 18.41.11 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 18.41.20 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@85-64-200-85.barak-online.net) 18.41.48 # so let's install it 18.42.30 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@labb.contactor.se) 18.42.45 # lostlogic: inlining code that reside in SDRAM is usually a bad idea 18.43.03 # because you don't utilize the cache 18.43.20 # i've had excellent results doing it too 18.43.21 # LinusN: hmm... there are two places it will be called, one is IRAM'd, so the performance penalty must come in the other. 18.43.25 # that's probably why your inlining gets slower 18.43.27 # it all depends on how often it's called 18.43.43 Join San||Away [0] (n=test@213-202-161-180.bas503.dsl.esat.net) 18.43.55 # gotta run, cu 18.43.58 Part LinusN 18.44.08 Quit ender1 (Connection timed out) 18.47.14 *** Alert Mode OFF 18.51.18 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-70-114-192-167.houston.res.rr.com) 18.52.52 # slimx: Any luck? 18.53.22 # Smart man that Linus -- inlining the IRAM'd version, but not the SDRAM'd version gives the best of both worlds. 18.54.34 # lostlogic: inlining code that reside in SDRAM is usually a bad idea 18.54.35 # because you don't utilize the cache 18.54.41 # what does he mean precisily ? 18.55.11 # do you know what a cache is, then? 18.55.23 # yes 18.55.40 # if you inline the function, every instance of it will be moved to where it's called, so it'll have to be loaded into the cache again 18.55.53 # if the function isn't inlined, it's always located at the same address, so the code can be pulled from the cache 18.55.54 # !!! 18.55.57 # right 18.56.15 # also about that I have a question 18.56.29 # how can you inline a function and declare it to IRAM at the same time ? 18.56.43 # mirak: if it's inline, it will be in RAM where the caller is 18.57.04 # mirak: I just copied the code out into the one I wanted it inlined, and then left the function for the other instance 18.57.44 # I don't understand your phrase 18.57.49 # sentence 18.58.33 # which sentence? 18.58.45 # If a function is inline, it is copied to where it's called. Therefore it will occupy the same RAM section as the calling function. What I did was physically copy the code into the calling function in one instance, but not in another. 18.58.47 # lostlogic: "I just copied the code out into the one I wanted it inlined, and then left the function for the other instance" 18.58.54 # okay 18.58.54 # so: 18.59.07 # he has function abc() and function czx(); 18.59.11 # he wanted to use abc in czx.. 18.59.20 # You basically have to have two copies of the function (e.g. with different names) - one declared inline, and one declared as ICODE_ATTR. 18.59.28 # so he put in INLINE there. means: the contenct of the function is there, not only a call to the function 18.59.28 # how can you do it in "one instance but not the other" ? 18.59.38 # ok 18.59.43 # he left the original function as it is 18.59.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.59.51 # just made it inline aditionally 19.00.36 # i've got it displaying something 19.00.55 # Congratulations. The port's well on its way then. 19.01.13 # but not really beautifull :p 19.01.16 Join ender1 [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 19.01.19 # slimx: what are u trying? 19.01.24 # pixels ... 19.01.32 Quit ender1 (Remote closed the connection) 19.01.36 # rockbox bootloader on iPod3g 19.01.40 # ah 19.01.40 # :) 19.01.44 # nice :) 19.01.47 # backlight is good 19.02.16 # but the lcd driver print just bad things ... 19.02.26 # That's not surprising for a first attempt. 19.02.29 # well so maybe u have to change row/col order? 19.02.34 # or something like that... 19.02.37 # in fact it print something 19.02.55 # that's nice 19.02.59 # yeah 19.03.04 # hardest step :) 19.03.48 # what about making some diff stuff 19.04.47 # so i think that the h100 lcd driver can't be used with the ipod :p 19.04.55 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.05.31 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB0C348.ipt.aol.com) 19.06.09 Quit ender` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.06.16 # how can i run a debuger with the bootloader ? 19.06.53 Quit Mmmm () 19.07.16 # slimx: You can't. 19.08.13 # Has any dev recognized, that in PAUSE mode the CPU stays at full speed after switching to the next title? You anyone test this? 19.10.48 Join akaidiot [0] (i=nope@c-531d70d5.020-58-6b736411.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 19.11.33 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 19.15.08 Join Lear [0] (n=chatzill@h194n1c1o285.bredband.skanova.com) 19.15.38 # amiconn: Does the h1x0's LCD remote uses horizontal packing for the pixels? 19.17.34 # slimx: The first thing you need to work out is the format of the data that you have to write to the LCD - you should be able to find that by reading the IPL source and/or trial and error. 19.17.59 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@mrbg-3e3422ca.pool.mediaWays.net) 19.18.57 # linuxstb: looks like there should be plenty of optimising potential in ipods display driver 19.19.18 # You mean the lcd_update() function and such-like ? 19.19.36 # preglow: does the compiler make a real mess of it? 19.21.09 # coob: haven't had a look at disassembly yet 19.21.54 Quit gtkspert () 19.21.59 # But are you talking about the code in lcd-ipod.c or lcd-16bit.c (or both) ? 19.22.02 # ok linuxstb i'm looking for that 19.23.10 # but i know they are unsigned char * in ipl source 19.24.12 # lcd-ipod.c, mainly 19.25.57 # ipl writes it by rows so am i 19.27.05 # yeah, don't complicate it yet 19.28.54 Part Philip_0729 19.30.36 Part Paul_The_Nerd 19.30.49 Quit darkless (Remote closed the connection) 19.32.23 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48.adsl.vby.tiscali.dk) 19.37.25 # linuxstb: No, the H1x0 and H3x0 remotes use vertical pixel packing like the archos and H1x0 main LCDs 19.38.03 # So the H3x0 will need to support both mono bitmap formats, which requires an extended font format 19.40.11 # can you add a file to the .rockbox folder at the compiling stage? 19.44.48 # amiconn: OK, thanks. I'm working on my bmp-in-build-system patch again now, and am hoping to commit something this evening. 19.51.00 Join infamis [0] (n=44495522@labb.contactor.se) 19.54.03 # mm its good? 19.54.04 # %t0.5%xda%t0.5%xdb%t0.5%xdc%t0.5%xdd%t0.5%xde%t0.5%xdf%t0.5%xdg%t0.5%xdh%t0.5%xdi 19.55.21 # Pi: what kind of file? 19.55.52 # a data file that contains the defalt colors 19.55.59 # hm\ 19.56.11 # I don't know 19.56.17 # I assume it's possible 19.56.32 # I think Bagder knows, he has done most of the makefiles iirc 19.57.01 # my god!!!! The world record for the longest continuous bout of hiccups goes to Charles Osborne (1894–1991) from Anthon, Iowa. The hiccups started in 1922 at a rate of 40 times per minute, slowing to 20 and eventually stopping in February 1990 – a total of 68 years. [2] 19.58.17 # damn.... 19.58.56 # patch commited 19.59.00 # Imagine to live the rest of your life with hiccups! :X 19.59.07 # na submited :p 19.59.07 # it must be in his head... 20.01.16 # Pi: I think that's controlled by the tools/buildzip.pl script 20.01.39 # thanks 20.02.53 # slimx: There doesn't seem to be any attachment to your patch. 20.03.48 # Also, I don't think you should use lcd-ipod.c - even though it's got a generic name, I think it would be cleaner to keep that for just the colour LCDs. 20.04.07 # (if CVS supported renaming, I would rename it to lcd-ipodcolor.c) 20.04.13 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 20.04.13 # * linuxstb waits for preglow... 20.05.32 # * preglow stops by and mentions svn 20.07.03 # hey, does diabolikal.org work for anyone? 20.07.12 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-154-160-47.bna.bellsouth.net) 20.07.18 # I am having trouble getting the patch to include my new files 20.07.20 # tryed cvs diff -uN > color.patch 20.08.47 # hm... that is the right command... 20.09.08 # what does it output? (don't paste > 5 lines here please) 20.09.13 # at the top it says:? apps/color_menu.c 20.09.13 # ? apps/color_menu.h 20.09.27 # You can't do that unless you've done "cvs add" - which you can't do unless you have cvs write access... 20.09.47 # Pi: what does the patch do? 20.10.33 # it sets the fore and background colors of all the menues etc and saves them in general settings 20.10.50 # ok 20.11.02 # have you done cvs update in the past hours/day? 20.11.15 # this is the older version http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&group_id=44306&aid=1397786 20.11.48 # updated about an hour ago 20.11.51 # ok 20.12.06 # and have you tested if it compiles for all targets? 20.12.30 # not yet 20.13.37 # it has #ifdef HAVE_LCD_COLOR round most of the code 20.13.41 Quit SteL (Connection timed out) 20.14.05 # which should i test it compiles on? 20.14.32 # hmz... 20.14.48 # iriver H1x0, archos player and some color target? 20.15.11 # because 1. has bitmap LCD but no color and 2. has no bitmap LCD 20.15.20 # check carefully for warnings.... 20.17.22 # ok there are errors with iriver h1x0 20.17.24 # I would check an archos recorder (mono lcd) as well. 20.17.39 # linuxstb: Iriver H1x0 is mono lcd... 20.17.46 # No, it's greyscale. 20.17.50 # ooh wait... 20.17.52 # jup 20.18.10 # Pi: errors? or warnings? 20.18.29 Join SteL [0] (n=SteL@slawson.plus.com) 20.19.21 # errors, i changed LCD_DEFAULT for the global setting which is not deffined by non color targets 20.22.35 # sorry for delay 20.22.54 # the patch is in sf now 20.23.05 # i had to bzip it though 20.26.04 # slimx: Your patch contains a binary file at the end - tools/codepages 20.26.07 Join Kaggen [0] (n=kaggen@c-722ae155.33-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 20.26.21 Quit mirak ("adieu jolie fille madrileneeeeeeeeee") 20.26.46 # asdf;lasjkfas;ldkjf I hate computers. 20.27.48 Part infamis 20.29.13 # if(screen->depth > ??) what should go here to differenciate between colour and non colour? 20.31.09 # Use HAVE_LCD_COLOR if you want to differentiate between colour and non-colour 20.31.46 # sorted 20.32.59 Join webguest83 [0] (n=0cad6dbb@labb.contactor.se) 20.36.13 # hmm, lcd-h100.o and lcd-16bit.o are fighting, i persume i should have deleter the build folder before compiling 20.36.21 # Slasheri: you around? 20.36.54 # lostlogic: yes, but going soon 20.37.11 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-51-108.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) 20.37.29 # Pi: Yes. It's best to create new directories for each build - e.g. "build-h100", "build-h300" etc 20.37.47 # Slasheri: quickly then... I've got some changes that get back about 4.5% boost, but on skip, I get one pcmbufdesc worth of playback from the track skipped from 20.38.27 # hmm 20.38.42 # Slasheri: Any idea what could possibly cause that? My change is the keep the 'desc' around as a static instead of loading it from the array on every interrupt, which should be OK, because it should have always been set by the previous interrupt call. 20.40.02 # have you changed any behaviour how the playback pauses, clears the buffer or something like that? 20.40.19 # that is the h1x0 compiled and i didnt see any warnings 20.40.33 # nope, no changes in playback.c... 20.40.51 Quit SteL (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC for those that like to be different") 20.41.05 Quit akaidiot (Client Quit) 20.41.14 Join akaidiot [0] (i=nope@c-531d70d5.020-58-6b736411.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 20.41.21 Quit Luthion (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.42.00 Join Mmmm [0] (n=mscarrat@cpc2-hem13-3-1-cust77.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 20.43.02 # So amiconn, are you going to commit that fix for turning off/stopping or are you not convinced? 20.44.59 # the archos player has failed, just after 'descramble' 20.45.35 Join RotAtoR [0] (n=e@12-210-82-91.client.insightBB.com) 20.46.18 # i have no idea what is wrong with it 20.48.29 # gcc -O -ansi -g -g sh2d.c -o sh2d 20.48.29 # gcc -DHAVE_LCD_CHARCELLS -D__CONFIG_H__ -I../firmware/export generate_rocklatin.c 20.51.12 # PI: I don't really know what you're doing so I'm sorry if it's a nonsense question, but have you run configure in a fresh build folder and compiled with make? 20.51.56 # i think so, will try again 20.51.59 # If the error apperade at a recompilation you can also try 'make clean' 20.52.19 # apperade -> appeared 20.52.41 # no, i think i make a new folder for the arcos 20.53.39 # changing target without running make clean or a starting from an empty build-folder is probably bad 20.57.31 # same again, though this time it made sh2d and rocklatin before it complained 20.57.32 # limits.h:12275: limits.h: No such file or directory 20.59.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.00.01 Quit amiconn (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Try something fresh") 21.00.22 # sounds like a build enviroment error, but not sure. Isn't there a how-to on the rockbox wiki somewhere? 21.00.27 # same again, though this time it made sh2d and rocklatin before it complained 21.00.30 # sorry 21.00.34 # :-) 21.01.34 # yea, it is hapening so fast and it doesent look like other errors that i have seen before 21.02.50 # Has it worked before? if so, have you changed any code? 21.03.49 # i have never tryed to compile for the arcos player before, but i can compile for iriver targets 21.04.12 # oookay... 21.05.06 # I haven't tried to archos target myself so I don't know any details but if the release you have is good I would presume it to work if iRiver compiles. 21.05.51 # Pi: Do you have an sh1 cross-compiler installed? 21.05.58 # ??? 21.06.10 # arcor recorger has same effect 21.06.31 # archos recorder has same effect 21.06.32 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=jborn@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 21.06.33 # What does typing "sh-elf-gcc -v" tell you ? 21.06.46 Quit Mmmm () 21.07.22 # ahh, of course, the compiler... 21.07.57 # reading specs from /opt/sh1/lib/gcc-lib/sh-elf/3.3.1/specs 21.09.22 # That's fine then - you have the sh1 cross-compiler. 21.09.35 # Configured with: ../../gcc-3.3.1-3/configure --target=sh-elf --prefix=/opt/sh1 --enable-language=c --disable-nls 21.09.51 # Are you using the devkit? 21.10.00 # yes (i think) 21.10.40 # The devkit can't compile the Archos targets any more - as you've just found. It's missing limits.h (and other possibly files) 21.11.18 # ok that explaines it, what should i do? 21.11.26 # Install Linux or Cygwin... 21.12.30 # The devkit isn't an "official" part of Rockbox - so it's not always up to date with current Rockbox requirements. 21.13.57 Join Xerion_ [0] (n=xerion@cp198589-a.landg1.lb.home.nl) 21.16.06 Quit Chamois (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- State of the art IRC") 21.18.00 Quit Rondom (No route to host) 21.18.07 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 21.19.02 Quit akaidiot ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 21.20.26 # updated the source forge submition with all the new code if someone else wants to try 21.20.26 # http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&group_id=44306&aid=1397786 21.20.34 Join Bger [0] (n=Bager@217.9.226.114) 21.20.46 # evening :) 21.21.16 # hi 21.22.11 # what's this "horizontal scrolling patch" ? 21.22.42 # bger manual look to the side to view long filenames in the dir browser 21.23.03 # Bger: it needs work (ie deactivating the automatic scrolling of the long name under the curser when it's active) 21.23.12 # ah :) 21.23.15 # k 21.23.57 Quit Kohlrabi ("Fast alle Menschen sind Regenwürmer") 21.24.04 # i should think about the remote keymappings of this ... 21.24.25 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-207-155.dsl.pipex.com) 21.26.09 Nick San||Away is now known as San| (n=test@213-202-161-180.bas503.dsl.esat.net) 21.27.51 # Mmmm: are you around? 21.28.46 # petur suggestions for h300 remote buttons for this horizonal scroll ? :) 21.29.04 # * petur doesn't have any remote :( 21.29.06 # there are no free buttons :( 21.29.09 # ah:) 21.29.28 # could have used one this afternoon (stealth recording) 21.29.39 # hehe 21.29.43 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-130-230.pools.arcor-ip.net) 21.30.04 # field testing recording gain patch :D 21.30.09 # the only possible combination is MENU (GPI) + some other 21.39.47 # oooh 21.39.51 # i like that newest patch 21.41.41 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.42.24 Join Nuxator [0] (n=5544f9bf@labb.contactor.se) 21.43.16 # hello 21.43.16 Join vger_ [0] (n=henrico@cn-mss-cb01-2760.dial.kabelfoon.nl) 21.43.58 # hello 21.44.36 Join pinkutank [0] (n=ddd@85.107.120.49) 21.44.48 # has anyone had a look at the color settings2 patch/ does it work with the archos targets? 21.45.15 Join Toni1 [0] (n=d5063259@labb.contactor.se) 21.45.24 # Hi there 21.45.47 # i've got a problem with directory cache 21.45.53 # Toni1: hello 21.45.59 # Toni1: see you've been busy 21.46.13 # Hi preglow, already seen my new patch? 21.46.20 # yeah, i'm looking at it as we speak 21.46.44 # fine, I have updated the mp3encoder a little bit too 21.46.49 # i enabled it but it isn't able to finish scan 21.47.02 # Hi Bger! Wazzup? I thought about the circular battery elements but it will need an element reordering to work pleperly 21.47.06 # now high bitrates should perform better 21.47.15 # Toni1: Cool patch. :) 21.47.22 # thanks 21.47.26 # Where have you been the past year? :) 21.47.29 # is there any way i can erase my settings without entering rockbox? 21.47.37 # Toni1: why have you reintroduced IDATA_ATTR and LINE_ATTR defines? 21.47.41 # nana 21.47.41 # they don't belong there 21.48.05 # they're not even used, heh 21.48.08 # oh sorry, this was not intentionally 21.48.34 # Nuxator: If you are on the iriver, then hold down record as you are booting. 21.48.34 Quit darkless (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.48.49 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48.adsl.vby.tiscali.dk) 21.48.57 # please help rockbox can't start any more with dir cahe enabled 21.49.48 # hold rec while booting. 21.49.59 # and yeah, the mp3 encoder was originally several files, yes? 21.50.20 # record during booting loads into iRiver firmware 21.50.32 # yes but it boots irver's firmware 21.50.36 # it doesn't clear rockbox settings 21.50.41 # xerion 21.50.49 # preglow.: yes 21.50.51 # start holding REC as soon as you see the bootloader 21.50.56 # but i want to erase the cache dir setting to use rockbox again 21.50.59 # Nuxator: Hold on, and then when the bootloader starts, release on, and start pressing (and holding) record. 21.51.03 # press it after the bootloader starts reading the rockbox.iriver 21.51.07 # ok i see :) 21.51.19 # just good to know :p 21.51.27 # i'd like to split it to several files again 21.51.30 # oops sorry for that. 21.51.34 # i'm not a big fan of huge c files 21.51.38 # preglow: still the ind2idx table is not complete, but only 320kBit seems to make use of the high values (bigger than 255) 21.51.39 # preglow: I agree. 21.51.40 Join ender1 [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 21.51.42 # yes 21.51.48 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.51.51 # many thanks 21.51.58 # Toni1: ok, so 320kbps still wont work? 21.52.41 # preglow: yes it works, but unfortunately I have no good ears, and no tools to measure the quality difference 21.53.01 # ok it worked 21.53.03 # many thanks 21.53.19 # Toni1: Do you handle configuration? i.e. the options for encoding can be different for each codec (kbps doesn't make any sense for WAV or wavpack for example) 21.53.25 # Toni1: is the current iram partitioning completely random or have you checked to see those arrays are the most important one? 21.53.35 # linuxstb: yeah, i was about to mention that, we need a way for codecs to export settings 21.54.12 # linuxstb: yes that's true: so I use the quality settings: 0-5 for mp3 6 for wavpack and 7 for wav 21.54.27 # is lossless compression like flac not usable realtime ? 21.54.42 # preglow: not in detail, more like a feeling 21.55.03 # mirak: wavpack is :) 21.55.03 # Note that Shine was used in a recent listening test - as low anchor... 21.55.39 # Lear: well, it's crap quality, but we don't exactly have many choices 21.56.52 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.56.59 # mirak: but wavpack seems around 900kBit against 1440 kBit raw wav 21.57.05 # mirak: As Toni1 says, wavpack lossless encoding is realtime (and just as good, if not better than FLAC). I don't think we'll be able to get the libFLAC encoder working realtime. 21.57.14 Join solexx_ [0] (n=jrschulz@c225171.adsl.hansenet.de) 21.57.49 # Toni1: So you don't let the user choose the codec? 21.57.50 # wavpack compressed better than flac 21.57.55 # consistently 21.57.59 Join akaidiot [0] (i=nope@c-531d70d5.020-58-6b736411.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 21.58.24 Quit akaidiot (Client Quit) 21.58.25 # Is that also the case for the Rockbox version of the encoder though? 21.58.27 # linuxstb: the user can choose between raw wav / mp3 / wavpack by the quality setting 21.58.30 # linuxstb: no idea 21.58.33 Quit Nuxator ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 21.59.09 # Toni1: Yes, I understand that. But I still think we should make it more explicit than that - and give the options for configuration of each codec. But that's a future enhancement. 21.59.13 # linuxstb: also no idea 21.59.38 Join SteL [0] (n=stel@slawson.plus.com) 22.00.11 Join Benacool [0] (i=Benacool@Toronto-HSE-ppp3750613.sympatico.ca) 22.00.12 # But anyway, we only really need one lossless encoder. I've certainly got no intention of looking at libFLAC again. 22.00.29 # linuxstb: ok, but if quality settings would saved to disk, is there still need for? 22.02.46 Join Mmmm [0] (n=mscarrat@cpc2-hem13-3-1-cust77.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 22.02.51 # btw, does the encoder plugin memory currently share space with the decoder? 22.03.45 # preglow: yes, but with audio_stop() it should not matter 22.04.43 # and for the voice decoder I created a voice_stop() 22.05.02 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 22.06.12 # Toni1: I'm just think about the future and if we added other encoders, such as speex. But as I said, it's something that can be changed in the future, I don't think we should worry about it yet. 22.06.25 Quit linuxstb (Nick collision from services.) 22.06.31 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 22.06.41 # what naming scheme should we use for encoder pluginms? 22.07.13 # linuxstb: ok, and quality setting is really not the very correct place for encoder selection 22.07.16 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 22.07.16 # Where are they currently stored? Is there something like an apps/encoders/ directory? 22.07.25 # (I mean in Toni1's patch) 22.07.27 # i think they should reside in codecs/ too 22.07.51 # preglow: I think so too 22.08.06 # but yeah, we need a naming scheme 22.08.37 # perhaps we should change extension to .dec and .enc 22.08.47 # lol I patched the 1.29 j verison with rockbox 22.08.56 # it still loads iriver 22.10.53 # have to go, bye all. 22.10.57 Part Toni1 22.12.33 Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.3 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]") 22.13.08 Quit solexx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.13.44 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 22.15.10 # Petur: I'm here now, how about you? 22.15.20 # yup 22.15.37 # have you had a look at the new patch on SF? 22.15.51 # doing that now 22.17.08 # I think we can keep mic recording mono, and use that combined L/R selection thing for the other latforms as well. 22.17.42 # (platforms) 22.18.17 # You mean get rid of all that amazing mic code? :-0 22.18.24 # ;) 22.18.56 # no, always handle mic as mono (L=R) 22.19.37 # but it works well, no? it could be useful to have balance control 22.19.53 Quit ender` (Connection timed out) 22.20.26 # do you think it's too complex? 22.20.55 # not for mic I think. I think I even saw that Tony1's new patch only stores left channel if mic 22.21.34 # my alternative turned out to be even more complex... ;) 22.21.55 # heh heh...its difficult isnt it? you dont know till youve tried eh? 22.22.20 # Anyone know about committing binary files to CVS (from Linux) ? 22.22.44 # Petur:what do you think of my anti-literal technique 22.23.06 Join thegeek_ [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 22.24.11 # better than using literals. Only works if they are multiples... then again, this code is quite dedicated atm 22.25.47 # they'd have to be mad to make hardware where the dig gain didnt go exactly into one analogue gain! but stranger things have happened i suppose :) 22.26.49 # linuxstb: there's a flag for it 22.27.22 # Petur: what does Tony1's patch do? 22.27.34 # multiple encoder support 22.27.49 # ahh.. Thats been committed right? 22.28.09 # no 22.28.19 # no, and it's not quite ready yet 22.28.21 # preglow: Yes I've found it 22.28.23 # no build system support 22.28.23 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@p54BD5493.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.28.40 Quit slimx (Remote closed the connection) 22.28.57 # re 22.29.13 Quit vger_ ("gtkBitchX-1.1-final -- just do it.") 22.29.18 Quit Pi (Remote closed the connection) 22.29.20 Quit Kohlrabi ("Fast alle Menschen sind Regenwürmer") 22.29.26 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-130-230.pools.arcor-ip.net) 22.30.18 # So if it only stores left channel from mic in then we have to have mono control right? 22.30.30 # as in HAVE to 22.31.13 # OK, first attempt at bmp2rb support in the build system is commited to CVS - don't forget to re-run configure after updating. 22.31.42 # Mmmm: that's what I said. There's really no use in allowing separate L/R gain when the source is mono 22.33.11 # on the fly balance control though? I like that! but if the encoders only sample one channel, then there is no point 22.34.17 # balance for what? it's the build-in mic... 22.35.23 # I'm really racking my brains here....there MUST be a use for it... :D 22.36.51 Join ansiVirus [0] (i=ansiViru@adsl-69-148-83-76.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 22.37.06 Quit SteL ("Chatzilla 0.9.67+ [SeaMonkey 1.0b/2005121900]") 22.38.07 # maybe i'm really dumb, but what does this " error: invalid operands to binary !=" means here: 22.38.20 # if(i0 && (bat[i-1]!=rb->battery_voltage())) || !i)) 22.38.42 # Petur:Ok...I give up :D So we should change the display too to just one level indicator. 22.38.54 # for mic in 22.38.54 Quit JoeBorn ("Leaving") 22.38.56 # s/means/mean 22.39.49 # Bger: Try adding more brackets 22.40.03 Quit thegeek (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22.40.10 # IMO, you can't have too many brackets. 22.40.24 # ah, i'm dumb :) 22.40.34 # bat[] is struct :) 22.40.39 # * Bger hides 22.40.43 # Or that... :) 22.40.57 Quit uwe_ (Client Quit) 22.41.10 # brackets were ok (long live for "%" in vim:)) 22.41.30 Join Chamois [0] (n=Florian@bro67-3-82-231-134-112.fbx.proxad.net) 22.41.49 # RotAtoR: Do you still have the original bmp files you used for bejewelled? 22.41.59 # (the ones you used bmp2rb with) 22.45.35 # linuxstb (and Toni1 if you read the logs): I have some encoder remarks: 22.45.54 # linuxstb: yes, i have them here somewhere 22.46.08 # - The recording settings (i.e. quality etc) are saved to disk 22.47.21 # - It would probably very helpful for our blind users (and I'm sure we *will* get requests for it) if the voice can be made to work during recording 22.47.45 # isn't it a hardware limitation? 22.47.52 # RotAtoR: I would like to add the original bmp files to CVS (and remove them from the .c file) now that I've committed bmp2rb build support. 22.48.15 # unless you pause input (for peakmeters) to output voice 22.49.05 # linuxstb: yes, definitely, your new patch looks like it will clean up the source files a lot 22.50.01 # do you want me to send you the bitmaps or should I make the changes? 22.50.29 # I'm very happy to let you do the changes. 22.50.29 Quit pinkutank () 22.50.59 # :) ok, i'll take a look at how to implement the changes then 22.51.21 # Thanks. Let me know if you have any queries - but the Sudoku changes should give you a good idea. 22.51.40 # now it should be much easier to add graphics to the side bar too... 22.51.41 # petur: Afaik the hardware is able to do full duplex. The peakmeters are 100% software 22.51.47 # ok, thanks 22.51.58 # (calculating the maximum across a part of the pcm buffer) 22.52.44 # hardware can do full duplex 22.53.26 # Didn't know about the full duplex 22.54.18 # still, i don't know when we'll need to use the full duplex caps 22.54.27 # apart from my effect box project, of course 22.54.32 # hehe 22.54.45 # Paprica: How is brickmania coming along? I'm keen to commit it to CVS now we can move the bitmaps out of the .c file(s). 22.55.35 # preglow: Voice UI during recording 22.58.24 # amiconn: that'll be hell 22.58.49 # Ouch, nasty build table... 22.59.03 # another case of swapping memory like hell while something intensive is going on 22.59.30 Quit Kohlrabi (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.59.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.01.49 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-130-230.pools.arcor-ip.net) 23.02.18 Quit Nanji ("ºÜÀÛ£¬Ïë˯£¬¶Á²»ÍêÊé¸Ð¾õÓÐ×»¹ÊÇ×Ô¼º²»¶Ô£¿") 23.02.37 # hey #rockbox 23.02.41 Quit Chamois (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.02.55 # yo 23.02.55 # Mmmm: are you going to adapt your patch or shall I? 23.03.03 Join Chamois [0] (n=Florian@bro67-3-82-231-134-112.fbx.proxad.net) 23.03.13 # I'm doing it right now! :) 23.03.32 # It hurts to get rid of all that hard work! :) 23.03.35 Join Coolhawk [0] (n=mledest@coolhawk.static.otenet.gr) 23.04.00 # Now it looks so simple..:D 23.04.07 # I saw you still had some tabs and 80+ lines... while you're editing 23.04.40 # * petur remembers how Linus gave him a hard time with his bad patch 23.05.23 # heh heh...I'll look out for them ;) 23.07.52 Quit DangerousDan ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 23.08.31 # * linuxstb commits fix for simulator builds. 23.10.44 # petur haha :) 23.10.58 # Ok, for everyone interested I've finally finished the schematics over the charge unit of the iAusio X5, you may locate that here : http://www.iaudiophile.net/forums/showthread.php?t=7015 If anyone needs further help on this issue, just post a reply then :) 23.11.59 Quit Chamois (" Want to be different? HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 23.13.07 # hehe, I like hand-drawn schematics :D 23.13.44 # hehe well second draft is better, the first one was on the fly as I measured 23.14.17 # Coolhawk: you could put it in the wiki 23.15.36 # Sure I could do that, maybe even Linus could add to his pages under the charging section 23.15.56 # I would think this could come in handy in the future for some 23.16.33 # temporary issue 23.17.52 # you could put them here http://www.rockbox.org/schematics/ in waiting Linus publish the final version one 23.18.24 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-207-155.dsl.pipex.com) 23.18.27 # or here http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HardwareSchematics 23.20.52 Quit Xerion_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.21.37 # Yeah, I think I'll do that, maybe I'll get the time to make it proper in my Protel99 :) 23.22.01 # Petur: OK, its working... I'll test it, tidy up and post it on SF tomorrow, its bed for me now though, Gnight... 23.22.08 # nite 23.22.09 Quit Bger ("[BX] Reserve your copy of BitchX-1.1-final for the BeOS today!") 23.22.52 # The build table is looking stained these days :/ 23.23.23 # ok 23.24.41 # amiconn: good sign, it means changes are being made and work is being done ;) 23.24.51 # It's not a good sign 23.25.01 # too many targets to test them all, he? 23.25.14 # Last week we had an all-green build table 23.25.42 # That means 20 consecutive builds didn't cause a single build error 23.26.16 # but did you see the amount of commits done recently? 23.27.46 Quit Matze ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 23.29.06 # * t0mas apoligizes to amiconn 23.29.11 # petur: 20 builds are 20 builds 23.29.15 # 1 line of red+yellow is mine 23.29.50 # I think that's why cvs is for, to have multiple builds in case of a bug. 23.30.11 Join infamis [0] (n=44495522@labb.contactor.se) 23.30.19 # Ofcourse developers should be more carefull but whats the deal for some bugs. 23.30.28 # If they are corrected no harm in the end. 23.30.42 # Though they may confuse others if unsolved. 23.31.08 # hmhm... 23.31.18 # we should have some testing system 23.31.38 # a more general one... because I don't have an ondio compiler for example 23.31.44 # * amiconn always test-builds before committing anything 23.31.52 # and I can't keep track of all the new color targets added in the last few months 23.32.10 Quit Coolhawk () 23.32.12 # amiconn: I try to do that too... but only for player, recorder and some color target 23.32.18 # usually Iriver... 23.32.32 # I don't even have a build environment for ipod... or ondio 23.32.46 # Question: iRiver has the 10k max file limit & Rockbox defeats the limit? I read the docs/TECH file & it says because it stores indexes to the files instead of the actual file names....for playlists. Does this mean that the actual _number of files_ on the device is increaesed to? 23.32.47 Quit ender1 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.32.51 # 24bit Color BMP Support for WPS!!! 23.32.53 # wohoo :D 23.32.54 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 23.32.57 # Huh? How do you build for player/recorder then? 23.33.18 # We now also have three different sims - my mistake was only testing on the SDL sim... 23.33.28 # oh wait... 23.33.31 # those are sim builds too 23.33.33 # But I agree people should test as much as practical before committing. 23.33.39 # Hehe, in fact that's the sim I completely ignore for now 23.34.21 # But it could be nice if Bagder published his server scripts so we could run the server build system locally. 23.34.25 # but still I think we need some way to test build for all targets... is it possible to do that with normal gcc? 23.34.27 # t0mas: If you can compile for player/recorder target, then you can compile for ondio target too 23.34.44 # amiconn: sure? because then I should setup a build dir for that 23.34.50 # Of course 23.34.51 # gmini is the other one then? 23.34.54 # yes 23.34.56 # ok 23.35.08 # The gmini port is frozen, so I don't care either 23.35.18 Part Kaggen 23.35.22 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-154-160-47.bna.bellsouth.net) 23.35.36 # Of course I don't always build each and every target and sim before commit, that would take too long 23.36.00 # I assume it's possible to try to compile all targets with a standard gcc? 23.36.01 # I choose the ones to test-build based on what kind of change I made 23.36.11 # that way we can spot the warnings and error's easily 23.36.27 # Nope. You'll need the appropriate cross compiler for the respective target 23.36.57 # isn't it possible to make a normal gcc process the source? and spit out errors and warnings? 23.37.06 # Building the cross compiler is no biggie, it just takes quite some time to do it on cygwin 23.37.29 Join Mongey|homework [0] (n=mongeyc@213-94-252-220.b-ras1.dbn.dublin.eircom.net) 23.37.48 # what is missing before the sdl sim matches the other sims? 23.37.51 # i'm quite eager to be rid of them 23.38.00 Quit Mmmm () 23.38.03 # preglow: It doesn't compile on windows, and the sound is buggy 23.38.14 # Well, if the SDL sim looks like the X11 one, I'll never drop win32 23.38.38 # I was thinking about that - it could have been better to base the SDL sim on win32, rather than x11. 23.39.06 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.39.14 # amiconn: looks like? what do you mean? 23.39.18 # While others may disagree, I think the picture of the unit is often useful 23.39.38 # That should be relatively easy to add to the SDL sim now though. 23.39.39 # you mean the bloody bitmap? 23.39.43 # i couldn't care less about that 23.39.49 # but sure, if it's wanted 23.40.21 # should be, yes 23.40.25 # why doesn't it compile on windows? 23.40.29 # should be a really trivial thing to fix 23.40.46 Join RedLeg [0] (n=red@66.59.108.254) 23.40.52 # Greetings.... 23.41.14 # linuxstb: sounds is buggy on the other sims as well 23.41.20 # Selected sdl simulator 23.41.20 # configure didn't find sdl-config, which indicates that you 23.41.20 # don't have SDL (properly) installed. Please correct and 23.41.20 DBUG Enqueued KICK amiconn 23.41.20 # re-run configure! 23.41.34 # I'm looking for help with what seems to be a hardware problem.... can anyone help? 23.41.42 # The win32 sim doesn't require extra software 23.41.44 # using sdl-config is really unecessary 23.42.06 # preglow: The sound playback just stops after a couple of seconds for me. It worked quite well under x11. 23.42.11 # all you need is -lSDL 23.42.16 # preglow: I once posted a small patch for the sound of the w32 sim that made it play ok 23.42.18 # i could never get x11 sound to work 23.42.24 # i guess it relies on oss 23.42.39 # Or it makes assumptions about your soundcard. 23.42.48 # But yes, I think it was oss-based. 23.42.53 # linuxstb: Sound in sims is fishy in general. It works for me in win32, but stutters a bit from time to time. The X11 sim plays for half a second, then stops 23.43.02 # linuxstb: sdl sound works fine here, the first time... after you stop audio, it'll never work properly for more than a few seconds 23.43.12 # Anyone ever seen "ATA: -11" as an error message immediately at poweron? 23.43.24 # but anyway 23.43.36 # I remember that it worked in X11 once, but can't remember when it brooke 23.43.39 # this is a golden opportunity to have a single codebase for sims, we should make it work 23.43.54 # SDL is a really lovely api compared to both winapi and x api 23.44.27 # The win32 api is rather well documented 23.44.31 Join Bagder [0] (n=daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 23.44.37 # yes, but hell to use 23.44.42 # sdl api is also well documented 23.44.45 # and not hell to use 23.45.08 # Imho x11 really is hell. Win32 is okay 23.45.33 # if you think it's ok, i bet you really haven't used it yet :P 23.45.34 # Dunno about SDL yet 23.45.38 # Dont buy a cheap ipod battery for an iRiver H300. It's almost wasted money. :( 23.45.40 # x11 is a greater hell, yes, agreed 23.45.55 # and that doesn't even do everything winapi does 23.47.17 # You get 10,5h out of the stock 1300mA battery and I get now 12,5h (exact same settings) out of my "2200"mA battery. :( 23.47.33 # ehh 23.47.34 # unlikely 23.47.50 # preglow: You mean me? 23.47.51 # only 12h? which codec? 23.48.07 # Mp3 @ 128 ABR 23.48.10 # ooo bmp build 23.48.13 # Volume -45dB 23.48.26 # once i had 29h 23.48.33 # with a 2200mah 23.48.40 # iriver lab mode 23.48.54 # Rob2222: yeah, you 23.48.57 # my 2200mA only costs 9,99 Euro, maybe its relabeled ... 23.48.59 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 23.48.59 # * infamis 23.49.04 # it was the same 23.49.05 # only gaining 2 hours with that setup is realle unlikely 23.49.08 # the thing is, its not my unit ... 23.49.18 # let me tell... 23.49.30 # 10.5 hours from standard battery with that setup is also very poor 23.49.33 # this is h3x0, yeah? 23.49.38 # my old (1 year in use) stock battery gets 9,5h. 23.49.54 # so i tool the H320 of my friend thats 1 weeks old 23.49.58 # preglow h3xx contains a 1700mah 23.50.05 # anf from his unit i got 10,5 h 23.50.06 # stock 23.50.23 # udes same rockbox, playlost and same mp3s 23.50.26 # used 23.50.31 # playlist 23.50.36 # dam what am i typing 23.50.44 # muesli__: sure? 23.51.01 # what is sure 23.51.02 # ;) 23.51.17 # does rockbox have a 10k limit on the number of files able to be on the player for the iriver port? 23.51.17 # stock: LPCS 355385/KPPJDLJI 23.51.20 # I know it doesn't for the playlist but does it for the actual number of all files on the hard drive? 23.51.21 # No, I think not. H300 comes with the same battery as H100 AFAIC. 23.51.29 # no 23.51.30 # infamis: no 23.51.39 # XavierGr NO 23.51.41 # wait 23.51.46 # il have a look 23.51.51 # Proof link? 23.52.13 # LPCS355385/KPPJDLJI <= on my stock battery 23.52.29 # Anyone ever seen "ATA: -11" as an error message immediately at poweron? 23.52.42 # Hardware is a Jukebox 20 recorder 23.53.03 # does rockbox load all files' info on the hard drive into memory on startup? or what file in firmware/ should I be looking for? 23.53.16 # infamis: no it doesn't 23.53.32 # http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:-fbH-9UCJU4J:www.powerready.co.kr/powerpartner/layout.php%3Fmain%3Dskc.php++LPCS355385&hl=de <= here it is. the stock battery 23.53.46 # 1350 average 1400mA 23.53.58 # mmh..no notes on the stock battery..but i am sure if read somewhere 1700mah 23.54.04 # ive 23.54.30 # muesli__: I gave you the number of my H340 stock battery 23.54.33 # so startup is practically instant since it doesn't read the whole hdd? 23.54.43 # so it is rated at 1400mah? 23.54.48 # infamis: you never started it? 23.54.51 # infamis: it does the dircache in the background 23.54.54 # 1400max, 1350 average 23.55.13 # I have an iaudio x5, but it has the 10k limit also, so I'm trying to see what you guys actually did to defeat it 23.55.17 # no iriver 23.55.17 # but my 2200er is bullshit :( 23.55.21 # aha 23.55.23 # OK, build table green again.... 23.55.31 # infamis: we have no such silly limit 23.55.37 # Doesn't H300 has a sticker with the battery rating? 23.55.37 # infamis: start take around 7sec here on h140 23.55.48 # H100 has one and says 1300 mah 23.55.53 # infamis: we do have a configurable max number files in a playlist and in a dir 23.55.56 # XavierGr no 23.56.03 # i thought there was one 23.56.07 # but i was wrong 23.56.37 # and there battery is lying just in front of me 23.56.44 # Fuck, that meas that now that I will upgrade my H300 will have far lowerbattery time than H100. 23.56.48 # nothin to see 23.57.01 # I should have rethink for that 23.57.03 # Bagder: but no limit really on the actual number of files you can have on the hard drive, correct? 23.57.10 # infamis: correct 23.57.23 # XavierGr: That drawback will only be temporary, I hope 23.57.49 # infamis: we support 120GB disks on the Achos players... people are likely to have much more than 10K files on those 23.58.18 # right, that's when I bought my X5 60gb & found out the 10k limit, I was astounded! 23.58.24 # XavierGr: With a good 2200 you should get at least 17h ^^ :) 23.58.40 # I had bought the 60gb just cause my rio karma was only a 20gb 23.58.40 # amiconn: Even if you cacth iriver in battery times, the internal battery is rated at 1400mah, (and iriver sasy 16 hours for both H100 and H300) (H100 has 1300mah internal) that means that H300 needs more battery. 23.58.45 # * amiconn wonders how this sdl stuff is supposed to work