--- Log for 26.01.106 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 11 days and 17 hours ago 00.00.05 # SDRAM = 0x30000000 00.00.11 # 0x10000000 is IRAM 00.00.16 # ah, iram 00.00.45 # (3) allows to distribute speech generated by the engine saved as a file, but the limitation refers to "speech synthesized from text provided by someone other than You by the Software" 00.00.46 # wiki page is goodness ;-) 00.00.50 # jup 00.00.50 Join spiralout [0] (n=keep_goi@drsd-d9ba60e6.pool.mediaWays.net) 00.00.51 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IaudioPort 00.01.07 # The "text provided by someone other than you" seems to be a key 00.01.17 # Ah, yes. 00.01.28 Join ts-x [0] (n=0cad6dbb@labb.contactor.se) 00.01.31 # that might be a problem 00.02.13 # but hey... is it really is... we'll setup a "suggest text to Jens" page... and make you copy/paste all the text. 00.02.16 # I wonder what the definition of "provided by" is 00.02.58 # I mean, basically text "provided by you" should be any text you "own" or otherwise have the right to reproduce. 00.03.01 # Hmm that's not the one I quoted above. The latter doesn't limit the input text 00.03.12 Join DrMoos [0] (i=DrMoos@m53.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 00.03.45 # hm 00.03.49 # t0mas: aha.. yes.. 00.03.59 Join Rob2222_ [0] (n=Miranda@ACB6EAE6.ipt.aol.com) 00.04.03 # * t0mas goes to sleep 00.04.03 Quit Moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.04.04 # good night 00.04.05 Nick DrMoos is now known as Moos (i=DrMoos@m53.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 00.04.39 # but ok 00.04.41 # bedtime 00.04.45 # night 00.05.20 # I just ordered a new digital camera. :( 00.05.30 # amiconn: Well, the first step would be clarifying to them that the license was purchased, and then asking in exactly what way the license is being violated. Trying to interpret it is somewhat of a losing battle anyway. 00.05.30 # Rob2222_: why is that a sadness? 00.05.50 Quit bshift- ("fractal2 mirc script (ver 1.0betar2) � http://fractal2.net") 00.05.52 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-254-192.dsl.pipex.com) 00.05.55 # I purchased the same camera 1 month ago for 285 Euro _) 00.06.26 # Rob2222_: what'd you do to it? The one your mom killed with the wrong power adapter? 00.06.26 # Then my girldfriend has let the camera fallen down 00.06.40 # no 00.06.46 # ah, heh that sucks 00.06.53 # A Sony DSC-P200 00.06.57 # fallen 50cm 00.07.10 # on the carpet 00.07.18 # what broke? 00.07.25 # normally that shouldn cause damage 00.07.33 # but cause murphys law 00.07.47 # the camera hit the carpet exact at the optics 00.08.00 # repair by sony: 400 Euro 00.08.07 # new cam: 285 Euro 00.08.14 # that's sucky 00.08.29 # And I have pretty less money atm. 00.08.46 # Borrowed 200 Euro from my mother for it. 00.08.52 # wel.. 00.08.57 # life is bad 00.10.12 # same "luck" with my H3x0 battery. 00.10.13 # hi can someone explain why the patch from xaviergr for the jpegviewer is broken? ...with this patch you can browse jepgs without leaving the viewer by pressin a button... 00.11.14 # its not since the plugin structure redesign ...it´s since a few days later ...:-/ 00.11.22 # buyed, only "1666mA" instead of "2200". Decided to sell it at ebay. Put into eBay. Now I recognized, that the battery capacity begins to rise. Come home. Battery sold. 00.12.16 Join kferdous [0] (i=ivan@ool-182e6280.dyn.optonline.net) 00.12.18 Quit Kyl3 ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 00.12.35 Join perplexity [0] (i=heh6420@217.165.99.160) 00.12.41 # spiralout: you sayin' the patch doesn't apply/work right? 00.12.54 Quit ModernExecutive () 00.13.13 # yes is isnt working anymore 00.13.32 # Rob2222 your bat-capacity is rising? how comes? 00.13.59 # spiralout: if so the only one who knows is xaviergr 00.14.19 Part kferdous 00.14.44 # Its normal that the capacity rises after the first charge/discharge cycles. I only didnt knew, if its the same for LI-POLY. And it looks like it is so. 00.14.47 # i´m not sure because i´m using a combination of it ...look here http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=31986 ...i can still open a jpeg but can´t browse.. 00.14.57 # hmm xavier isn´t around right? 00.15.11 # not atm 00.15.49 # has xavier still a h1xx? 00.16.10 # or has he upgraded ;) 00.16.24 # hadt he sayed somthing from ordering a H300? 00.16.28 # but im not sure. 00.17.16 # oh so maybe he ins´t interested anymore... k i come back when xaviegr is online ...thank you 00.17.54 # im not sure 00.17.56 # really dont know. 00.18.40 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@c220-239-137-122.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 00.19.27 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.20.08 Quit JdGordon (Client Quit) 00.20.14 Part spiralout 00.20.21 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@c220-239-137-122.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 00.22.07 Quit Kohlrabi (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.22.14 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.22.25 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@c220-239-137-122.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 00.23.53 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.24.04 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@c220-239-137-122.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 00.24.05 Nick Rob2222_ is now known as Rob2222 (n=Miranda@ACB6EAE6.ipt.aol.com) 00.29.02 # morning all 00.29.41 # Hello! 00.30.09 # 00:30 here in Paris 00.30.34 # 10.30 here and i just got out of bed :D 00.30.42 # hehe :) 00.30.55 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 00.31.07 Quit `3nergy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.31.32 Quit bobwise ("CGI:IRC") 00.31.39 # wow, this place is ridiculously worldwide. 17:30here 00.32.03 # Welcome to Rockbox world :) 00.32.07 Join Sando [0] (n=lolsteam@techgaming.net) 00.32.28 Quit Zoric (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.32.42 Join `3nergy [0] (n=3nergy@techgaming.net) 00.33.22 # preglow: still around? 00.35.29 # 00.04.41 # bedtime 00.35.29 # 00.04.45 # night 00.35.49 # 25min ago? 00.35.57 # yep 00.36.00 # lostlogic: You're in the same timezone as me, then. 00.36.01 # bugger 00.36.17 # Paul_The_Nerd: am in Chicago 00.36.36 # Austin 00.37.36 Quit petur ("here today, gone tomorrow") 00.37.37 # only been to texas once... to pick up a car I bought on Ebay :) 00.37.43 # JdGordon: You want to draw filled triangles in a plugin? 00.37.55 # ye, i figured it out 00.37.57 # Check the plugin library, it already has what you need 00.38.19 # lostlogic: I'd say, count yourself lucky. I've been to Chicago once, to see my uncle in a powerboat race. 00.38.20 # it does? i couldnt see it.. 00.38.51 # apps/plugins/lib/xlcd.c: xlcd_filltriangle() 00.39.01 # Paul_The_Nerd: You don't like where you live? 00.39.11 # cube.c uses it 00.39.22 # grr. ok, ta 00.39.27 # lostlogic: Generally speaking, I'm not a fan of the rest of the state. 00.39.37 # haha. 00.40.30 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.40.48 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@p54BD4AD8.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.40.56 # what does rb->lcd_roll() do? 00.41.37 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 00.41.37 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@p54BD4AD8.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.41.46 # JdGordon: Currently nothing on iriver. 00.41.53 # k 00.42.16 # On archos, it uses a hardware feature of the lcd to roll the whole display without retransferring framebuffer data 00.42.52 Quit mirak (Remote closed the connection) 00.43.34 # This feature is also present in the iriver lcd controllers, but not yet 'wired', and I don't know whether it's possible to provide it in a seamless way 00.44.52 # E.g. the H1x0 lcd controller allows for more lines than present in the lcd panel, so rolling the content might lead to a part of the rolled content to be invisible 00.46.12 Quit Pi_ ("bye") 00.54.38 Quit Moos ("Glory to Rockbox") 00.56.18 Quit JoeBorn ("Leaving") 00.58.37 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.58.38 # t0mas: still around? 01.01.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.03.10 Join banan__ [0] (i=banan@dalink.campus.luth.se) 01.07.27 Join bagawk [0] (n=lee@unaffiliated/bagawk) 01.10.24 Join aegray [0] (n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com) 01.19.51 Quit banan_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.24.32 Quit Thus0 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.28.58 Join aegray_ [0] (n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com) 01.29.00 Quit aegray ("leaving") 01.29.22 Join uwe_ [0] (n=uwe@dslb-084-056-000-113.pools.arcor-ip.net) 01.29.26 Nick aegray_ is now known as aegray (n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com) 01.30.29 Quit linuxstb ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 01.30.34 Join webguest71 [0] (n=9bf7a61c@labb.contactor.se) 01.33.23 Quit webguest71 (Client Quit) 01.46.05 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 01.53.12 Quit webguest58 ("CGI:IRC") 02.01.04 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-120-87.VIC.netspace.net.au) 02.16.22 Quit bagawk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.21.29 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-254-192.dsl.pipex.com) 02.25.18 Join YouCeyE [0] (n=YouCeyE@vp089013.reshsg.uci.edu) 02.30.00 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.32.13 Quit actionshrimp ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.0 :: www.XLhost.de )") 02.34.09 Quit Infirit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.34.30 Join Infirit [0] (n=infirit@84-104-253-242.cable.quicknet.nl) 02.34.57 Join Midgey34 [0] (n=Midgey34@c-24-11-55-125.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 02.35.32 Quit c0utta ("CGI:IRC") 02.39.11 Join San [0] (n=test@213-202-130-88.bas502.dsl.esat.net) 02.39.18 Join babybot [0] (n=babybot@200.139.129.180) 02.41.02 Quit babybot (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.01.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.02.21 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 03.02.30 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=7c3c0f56@labb.contactor.se) 03.02.37 # hi] 03.04.02 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.04.24 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.04.42 # everybody sleep? 03.05.32 # yup 03.05.44 # Not quite... 03.06.00 # um 03.06.19 # hey linuxstb_ , I got a weird thing when trying to build the nano bootloader 03.06.24 # like, Out of memory! 03.06.33 # With cygwin? 03.06.37 # but I can build 5G loaders till the cows come home 03.06.38 # yes 03.06.45 # What function does 'Queue shuffled' do? 03.07.04 # I've heard people report that with Perl under Cygwin before. The Rockbox build system uses some Perl scripts. 03.07.15 # Jungti1234: adds them to the queue, in shuffled order? 03.07.29 # Random song reservation? 03.07.38 # linuxstb_: but a distinction between nano and 5G? 03.07.51 # No idea.... 03.07.58 # Was it Perl or something else giving the error? 03.09.17 # dun' think so... 03.09.38 # I blame your cygwin installation. 03.09.53 # ha 03.10.04 # Do you need a copy of the nano bootloader? 03.10.09 # nope 03.10.15 # No problem then :) 03.10.19 # got the one you sent a while back 03.10.36 # digging through pages and pages of IRC log sucks 03.10.39 # I don't think it's changed. 03.11.05 # linuxstb_: it's always nice to be able to build... slight modifications, whatnot 03.11.16 # my nano hasn't been able to turn on for a few hours :S 03.14.03 # this makes me cry 03.17.42 Quit Jungti1234 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.18.30 # how many lines can I paste here, linuxstb_ ? 03.18.35 # standard 3-4? 03.19.13 # OBJCOPY /home/Stephen/rockbox-devel/bootnano/bootloader/bootloader.elf 03.19.14 # Build bootloader file 03.19.14 # out of memory! 03.19.14 DBUG Enqueued KICK BHSPitLappy 03.19.14 # make[1]: *** [/home/Stephen/rockbox-devel/bootnano/rockbox.ipod] Error 255 03.21.45 # Sounds odd. Have you rebooted your PC recently. 03.22.27 # If you type "make V=1" then that will be more verbose and tell you exactly which command fails. 03.22.49 # I guess I'm not too worried about it this instant 03.37.37 Quit tvelocity ("Leaving") 03.53.44 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ipa145.1.tellas.gr) 04.00.47 Join jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@124.60.15.86) 04.01.34 Join EvilDude [0] (i=EvilDude@61.1.188.81) 04.15.54 Quit EvilDude () 04.24.15 # hey 04.43.43 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-254-192.dsl.pipex.com) 04.52.03 Join TCK- [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-244-75.dsl.pipex.com) 04.57.10 Quit ts-x ("CGI:IRC") 05.01.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.01.44 Join Rob2222_ [0] (n=Miranda@ACB1ADC8.ipt.aol.com) 05.03.48 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.08.01 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-231-133.dsl.pipex.com) 05.12.03 Quit TCK- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.18.45 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.48.30 Part Sando 05.52.23 Quit jungti1234 () 05.56.15 Quit TCK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.57.29 Quit Bloody_Sorcerer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.58.39 Quit RotAtoR ("zzzzzzzz") 06.07.45 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=jborn@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 06.17.34 Quit Paul_The_Nerd (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.18.19 Part Midgey34 06.20.54 Join ModernExecutive [0] (n=bob@pool-162-84-113-54.norf.east.verizon.net) 06.23.42 # linus in? 06.39.59 Join jborn_ [0] (n=jborn@adsl-68-74-115-3.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) 06.43.54 Join CrookedRain [0] (i=crookdra@SY-16-147.resnet.ucsb.edu) 06.50.52 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 06.52.26 Quit tvelocity ("Leaving") 06.57.20 Join JamesKerridge [0] (n=3ce49346@labb.contactor.se) 06.57.32 Quit JoeBorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.58.01 Quit JamesKerridge (Client Quit) 06.58.42 Join JamesKerridge [0] (n=3ce49346@labb.contactor.se) 06.58.57 Quit jborn_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.00.11 # I have nearly finished writing my first plugin game for rockbox and I am getting an error when I exit the plugin. Can any one give me some ideas on how to track it down. 07.01.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.03.59 # The error I get is: I00: at 00035924 07.05.03 Quit JamesKerridge ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 07.16.04 Join t0mas_ [0] (n=Tomas@ip503c08d1.speed.planet.nl) 07.16.05 Quit t0mas (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.23.59 Join stamppot1975 [0] (n=d4883814@labb.contactor.se) 07.26.10 Quit ModernExecutive () 07.31.52 Join Jaykay [0] (n=not@60.228.147.70) 07.33.27 Nick banan__ is now known as merbanan (i=banan@dalink.campus.luth.se) 07.33.40 # Hi I am getting an error when I I exit my plugin. It has been a while since I coded in C. Can anyone give me some pointers? The error I get is I00: at 00035924 07.34.06 # No pun intended with the pointers :) 07.37.19 # is there any idea oof "colours" on the h1x0? 07.38.56 # Not sure if the H1x0 has a colour LCD. I have only used the H300. 07.39.34 # no its only b+w, but does it do any greyscale or something? 07.42.13 # morning :) 07.42.40 Part LinusN 07.43.04 # gmorning 07.45.14 # JdGordon: there is grayscale. 07.45.31 # JdGordon: basically 4 shades total 07.45.45 # Not sure i'm afraid. 07.46.30 # Jaykay: i'm not sure what I00 is, but i'd look through the memory maps and find out what address 00035924 corresponds to (should help you determine which function it was in) 07.46.57 # ashridah: where r they defined? 07.47.08 # they're generated by the compilation process 07.47.37 Quit YouCeyE (Remote closed the connection) 07.47.39 # the colours? 07.48.12 # screw it.. ill take colours out for the shitty lcd screens 07.49.08 # JdGordon what plugin are you writing ? 07.49.32 # this stupid timetable viewer which u all must be sick of hearing about :D its finished, just porting it to other players now 07.51.23 Join YouCeyE [0] (n=YouCeyE@vp089013.reshsg.uci.edu) 07.53.19 # timetable ? 07.53.27 # uni/school timetable 07.53.35 # ahaa:) 07.53.38 # k 07.57.03 # haha.. looks soo much better on the h300 than on the h100 :D 07.57.23 Join Jaykay2 [0] (n=not@60.228.147.70) 07.58.49 # any1 with a h100 or h300 wanna test it out? 07.58.55 # Sorry about that my laptop decided to hibernate. The plugin is a yahtzee game for 1 or 2 players. 07.59.23 # I have an H300. Just logged in what would I be testing out? 08.10.49 Quit Jaykay2 () 08.12.38 # JdGordon ? 08.12.49 # ? 08.13.00 # h300 tester ? 08.13.29 # not reaaly tester.. just have a play, see how u like it... if its useable.. 08.14.11 # ill put em online.. 1 sec 08.15.27 Quit Jaykay (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.16.52 # http://users.monash.edu.au/~jdgor1/rb/timetable.zip 08.17.06 # u need to add it to the viewers.config file (ive included an example file 08.18.21 # i got 3 minor stupid bugs (which dont really need to be fixed) and ill upload the source somewhere 08.21.00 # k 08.21.52 Quit Paul_The_Nerd (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.22.27 Quit DJDD___ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.26.55 # JdGordon looks promising :) 08.26.57 # buut 08.27.21 # no butts :D 08.27.38 # haha 08.27.46 # if you want to make it really usefull... 08.28.13 Join jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@124.60.15.86) 08.28.39 # .. 08.28.45 # jungti1234: http://users.monash.edu.au/~jdgor1/rb/timetable.zip 08.28.46 # hi 08.28.53 # :D 08.29.23 # Bger_: i dont... but lets say i did...? 08.30.27 # don't fix the time interval ot 1 hour... 08.30.59 # s/ot/at 08.31.19 # i know :( problem is because we dont have dynamic memory its too hard... 08.31.40 # JdGordon can i see the source ? 08.31.45 Nick Bger_ is now known as Bger (n=Bager@83.222.160.88) 08.31.49 # sure.. 1 min 08.32.16 # http://users.monash.edu.au/~jdgor1/rb/timetable.c 08.32.52 # windows... :) 08.32.58 # i mean, it could be done... but there would be a hard limit on how many items it can store... and updating the screen would be slower 08.33.20 Join Sando [0] (n=lolsteam@techgaming.net) 08.33.55 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=icechat5@pd95b7c08.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 08.34.00 # first (stupid) note ... use only C-style comments 08.34.36 # ye, i saw that in the docs/contribute last night.. but annoying.. ill fix that some other time 08.35.04 # yes, annoying, but ... :) 08.35.06 Join Xerion_ [0] (i=xerion@zorgash.student.utwente.nl) 08.35.11 Quit Xerion (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.35.23 # hm JdGordon 08.35.54 # JdGordon why u're doing the triangles in software ? 08.36.03 # i mean, why don't u use bitmaps :P 08.36.26 # Bger: i could do every 15min.. but the the struct array would be around the 350kb range, and i dont know how big it is allowed untill rb chucks a shi trying to load it 08.36.33 # so it can be done on any lcd size 08.36.53 # pm, am doesn't need. 08.36.58 # 00~23 08.37.12 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 08.37.12 # * JdGordon likes pm/am 08.37.19 # me too but 08.37.24 # JdGordon option :) 08.37.30 # um.. 08.37.32 # yes 08.37.34 # option 08.37.43 # .. 08.37.49 # :D 08.38.36 # jungti1234: have u got the clock set to 24hour or 12hour? 08.38.49 # 24 08.39.30 # Before I talk with here people, 12 hours were convenient. 08.40.00 # But, here people used 24hour. 08.40.02 # JdGordon u should check for USB ... 08.41.00 # ..done 08.41.11 # hmm 08.41.27 # haha:) 08.41.31 # u're quick 08.41.56 # Can't rockbox input ':' and ';'? 08.42.23 # one silly note 08.42.35 # int t = rb->kbd_input(events[day][hour].desc,512)+1;// stupid thing returns 0 on success and -1 on abort! 08.42.35 # if (t) 08.42.41 # on and up|down jumps the time by a whole screen... usefull for the h100's with no RTC :D 08.43.20 # huh never mind 08.43.26 # Bger: ye, thats ok, the +1 makes it so 0 on fail and 1 on ok 08.43.45 # yep, i know, but you could use !t with the same success 08.43.58 # smarty pants :p 08.44.13 # that was done at like midnight when i was well and truly asleep 08.44.44 # just noticing 08.45.29 # JdGordon 08.45.46 # yo? 08.47.04 # I can't express. 08.47.18 # :) try 08.47.25 # I don't know English... :( 08.48.22 # point, make hang gestures and talk loudly :D thats what us english speakers tend to do when we try comunicating in a wierd lang... 08.49.02 # ok, got rid of the c++ comments, and the typedef... 08.49.20 # L on left does not need date. 08.49.25 # hm 08.49.45 # cell? 08.50.17 # date? there is no date anywhere.. 08.50.48 # Day of the week 08.51.10 # ? for sure it needs day of week to be displayed 08.51.14 # on the left 08.51.19 # partition 08.51.50 # don't need. 08.52.05 # can u do a screenshot? im confuse 08.52.06 # d 08.52.20 # ok.. 08.53.19 # hmm... Bger, it likes ignooring button presses in the TIMETABLE_QUIT case at the bottom of the file... any ideas why or how to get round it?? (its the ask to save changes screen/...) 08.58.13 # am ? 08.58.40 # ? 08.58.42 # brb 08.59.09 # Receive it. 08.59.11 # JdGordon: you wanted me? 08.59.40 # it ignores button presses ? 08.59.47 # JdGordon 08.59.56 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@labb.contactor.se) 09.00.14 # preglow: ye, i was gonna offer to do the boring integration for u today, but i missed u by 30min 09.00.36 # JdGordon: Receive it! 09.00.49 # JdGordon strange 09.01.02 # Bger: ye, it thinks you hit off twice so u miss the screen... (edit a time thingy press off to close and it should ask u to save) 09.01.24 # yeah 09.01.26 # :D 09.01.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.01.45 # meh, minor thing... 09.02.05 # -_-; 09.03.08 # gone 09.03.30 # When end it, something sees. 09.04.59 # ?? 09.05.34 # Blue letter on black background 09.06.26 # ? when you quit? 09.06.33 # yes 09.07.13 Join webguest44 [0] (n=c22ea29a@labb.contactor.se) 09.07.27 # did u edit any times? 09.08.04 # because it is probably the screen asking if u want to save changes which is ignoring the off button 09.08.18 # JdGordon: well, it's still not to late! 09.08.19 # heh 09.08.32 # the eq routines themselves aren't ready, though 09.08.46 # and i bet they wont be today either 09.08.50 # no time 09.11.10 # ok 09.11.44 # ou, w8 09.12.04 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 09.16.57 Join B4gder [0] (n=daniel@static-213-115-255-230.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se) 09.18.51 Quit webguest44 ("CGI:IRC") 09.19.49 # tick tock... 09.20.33 # kk 09.20.40 # basically, what you'll get is routines for enabling, setting center frequency, Q and gain for each band 09.20.49 # so if you want to make the interface, you can just start 09.21.54 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=jborn@adsl-68-74-118-63.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) 09.28.29 # OT... for the other aussies here... for aus day.. http://media.putfile.com/Adam-Hills-Aust-National-Anthem 09.31.42 Quit _FireFly_ ("Now if you will excuse me, I have a giant ball of oil to throw out my window") 09.34.27 # nice article on lwn.net 09.38.08 # indeed 09.40.41 # erhm... has anyone been successful in booting linux off a usb-drive? 09.41.09 # yes 09.41.18 # ask google and you'll find lots 09.41.38 # B4gder :P 09.42.04 # I think I've ran into a wall regarding umsdos snafu 09.42.12 # umsdos is a great thing btw 09.42.52 Quit JoeBorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.47.33 Quit stamppot1975 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 09.48.39 Join stamppot1975 [0] (n=d4883814@labb.contactor.se) 09.50.47 # is it, now 09.52.34 # funny then how I've never missed it ;-) 09.53.07 # A kernel with loadable modules for usb wouldn't work? 09.53.25 # dwihno: where would it load the modules from? 09.54.30 # True 09.54.39 # * dwihno = tired, old and grumpy ;) 09.54.54 # I just needed to hear that 09.54.58 # * B4gder hands dwihno a coffee *grande* 09.55.23 # * B4gder and runs off to get one too 09.57.06 # Damnit! Every single slackware kernel has config_usb=m :[ 09.57.22 # build your own :) 09.57.35 # building your own is good for you 09.57.48 # How am I supposed to build one if I'm unable to boot it?! :) 10.01.15 # aaaargh 10.01.32 # there is just the test26 kernel 10.01.41 # I guess that'll have to do. 10.15.35 # do it 10.16.06 # uf 10.16.18 # the bad thing is, I only have 1gb of flash to utilize :/ 10.18.16 Quit Nibbler (Remote closed the connection) 10.18.34 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.18.41 # what the fsck?! the 2.6-test has config_usb=y ... looking closer reveals config_usb_storage=m 10.18.52 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 10.19.16 Join Nibbler [0] (n=sven@port-212-202-193-50.dynamic.qsc.de) 10.19.16 Quit jungti1234 () 10.19.17 # so you have no linux now and only a usb-storage to boot from ? 10.19.42 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@p54BD493B.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.20.04 # well 10.20.38 # I have a disk as well 10.21.08 # I'll boot from a DOS-enabled usb-stick, format the disk (fat32), put the zipslack there, boot, configure kernel, build and then all should be go 10.21.28 # Swengrish! ;D 10.36.52 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.36.52 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@p54BD493B.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.39.07 Join Zoric [0] (n=zoric@nl103-153-133.student.uu.se) 10.39.22 # Morning all. Do I understand correctly that with I2S, if the sending and receiving devices are configured to use different word lengths, then it's not a problem - the receiving device will compensate by either padding the samples with zero, or truncating? 10.46.22 # no idea 10.52.08 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.53.44 # That's what I think is going on - which is making it impossible for me to tell if I'm actually transferring 24-bits of data or not to the ipod's dac. 10.53.59 # don't you configure the dac yourself? 10.54.31 # Yes, I can configure the DAC to be 16, 20, 24 or 32 bit. But I can do that without changing any other code, and it still works. 10.54.41 # (IPL sets it to 16-bit). 10.55.15 # I _think_ I'm correctly configuring the I2S to be 24-bit, but I want a way to confirm that. 10.55.47 # hmm 10.56.05 # well, i have no idea how to 10.56.16 # the ipod adc is too poor for me to do any noisefloor measurement 10.56.18 # dac 10.56.40 # I suppose it proves that if I can't hear any difference compared with 16-bit, then it's a waste of time anyway. 10.57.18 # I should probably code a proper listening test that switches between 16-bit and what I think is 24-bit, and find myself a good quality test file. 10.57.23 # i wouldn't expect much of a difference, that's for sure 10.57.31 # i think the dac noisefloor is around 90db 10.59.34 # The datasheets I've found which closely resemble the WM8975 (both the WM8971 and WM8750) quote DAC SNR at 98dB. 11.01.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.05.44 # I'm also not sure how to handle the volume scale in Rockbox - the datasheets say the volume is from +6dB to -67dB (74 different integer dB values) in 80 steps. 11.06.05 # So does that mean the user has 74 different volume settings, and I need to map those to the DAC's 80 steps? 11.06.37 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 11.07.13 # Or does the user have 80 volume settings, but some of them are displayed with the same dB value? 11.09.52 # has any1 tried stx linux? 11.11.02 # hmm 11.11.23 # sounds weird 11.11.52 # don't know, there a number of ways it might be solved 11.14.20 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@88.134.20.76) 11.16.01 # high 11.23.49 # amiconn: u there? 11.24.25 # preglow: any eq progress? 11.28.15 Quit perplexity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.29.20 # LinusN: having trouble ironing out some bugs after moving the code to target, and no more time to work on it, so no 11.30.25 # pity 11.30.46 # see if i can spare a couple of hours later 11.32.14 # good 11.32.37 # and then there's always performance issues 11.32.52 # of course 11.32.56 Join Membrillo [0] (n=sam_kill@CPE-60-229-179-140.nsw.bigpond.net.au) 11.33.02 # do you have an idea about how it will perform? 11.33.05 # should be a pretty minimal innerloop, but we'll see 11.33.22 # http://www.pvv.org/~thomj/rockbox/eq_cf.S 11.33.26 # you can see for yourself 11.33.28 # would be damn cool to have the eq core in cvs so we could work with it 11.33.33 # that's per band 11.33.36 # i have seen it 11.33.38 # okies 11.33.46 # looks pretty neat 11.33.53 # very little memory access in the innerloop 11.33.59 # one read, one write 11.34.06 # damn nice 11.34.13 # and that buffer is almost always in iram, so it _should_ be fast 11.34.15 # but we'll see 11.34.33 # now, back to cozy c++ 11.34.42 # *almost* always in iram? 11.35.19 # hi all 11.35.23 Nick Rob2222_ is now known as Rob2222 (n=Miranda@ACB1ADC8.ipt.aol.com) 11.35.33 # LinusN: well, it depends on the codec, and whether audio is resampled 11.35.38 # ah yes 11.35.40 # i think all codecs keep output in iram 11.35.45 # and i also think resampling buffer is in iram 11.36.13 # and then copied to the sdram pcm output buffer 11.37.54 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-231-133.dsl.pipex.com) 11.38.27 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.38.40 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@c220-239-137-122.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 11.43.33 # hmmm a MR username by the name of Otto is offering to sell me his h340 harddrive and casing for $115 US. Im not sure wether I should trust him. All his MR posts have been about selling items and I don't know wether he will just scam me 11.44.34 # he offered me the drive for 100$ 11.44.51 # yeah same here 11.44.55 # 100$ shipped if you still intrested 11.44.55 # cheers 11.44.56 # but 15 dollars postage 11.44.57 # hmm, in finnish "otto" means taking away things ;) 11.45.07 # lol 11.45.15 # in german its just plain otto ;) 11.45.16 # :D 11.45.26 # do you think he would be legit? 11.45.34 # he seems to be selling a lot of things... 11.46.15 # dunno 11.46.26 # he wrote 11posts only 11.46.29 # thats a very cheap price.... 11.46.32 # yeah 11.46.35 # all about selling things 11.46.41 # mmh 11.47.48 # Membrillo: Read Febs' last post here: http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=33430 11.47.56 # http://www.geizhals.at/deutschland/a78738.html 11.47.57 # i think i did 11.48.00 # Sounds like something odd is going on. 11.48.01 # 4 a new one 11.49.01 # veeery odd 11.49.15 # i dont think dealing with this guy is a wise idea 11.49.39 # pity he doesnt sound legit. exactly what i wanted at a good price 11.50.41 # first he asked $300US for the entire unit. i didnt reply. later he pmed again selling the harddrive and casing alone for $100 US 11.50.58 # If it was me, I would send Febs a PM at misticriver and ask his opinion about Otto, and why he closed that thread. 11.51.06 # ok 11.51.07 # i will 11.51.09 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.52.56 Join Cari [0] (n=zeroirc@221.145.16.97) 11.55.08 Quit Cari (Client Quit) 11.58.18 # Membrillo btw when you place your new hdd be sure to do it properly. i've probably bricked my drive cos the label wasnt pointing to the lcd 11.58.43 # that was a silly thing to do 11.58.52 # sure ;) 11.58.56 # cost me 100e ;) 11.58.56 # i didnt even know it would fit in upside down 11.59.07 # its really easy to do it 11.59.17 # you have to look very carefully 11.59.24 # cos it fits in both directions 12.00.14 # yeah, ive taken mine out and put it back in before 12.00.33 # i think mine came loose because my player was playing up. when i gave it a nudge it was ok 12.02.10 # muesli__: The drive only fits in 1 direction ^^ 12.02.18 # nope 12.02.24 # i did it i know it ;) 12.02.38 # Rob2222: he means it will fit upside down 12.02.42 # i changed my drive, too 12.03.03 # mom 12.03.42 # http://lostlogicx.com/images/pics/iriver/p2070014.jpg 12.03.51 # the plastic pin down at the connector 12.04.04 # should prevent it, normally. 12.04.18 # its possible..trust me 12.04.21 # hmm but ok, im not sure. 12.04.34 # yeah, with strong enough force all is possible:p 12.04.37 # *duck* 12.04.43 # yepp :) 12.04.54 # Now the drive doesnt wok? 12.04.57 # work? 12.05.13 # no..it got hot and doesnt start anymore 12.05.19 # bricked to trash 12.05.32 # ok 12.05.33 # i fool 12.05.35 # ;) 12.05.37 # if it got hot ... 12.05.39 # :( 12.05.43 # send it back ;) 12.05.59 # no...those asses need ages 4-6weeks for fixing 12.06.09 # I killed 2 or 3 2,5" HDs with that adapter: http://www.michelkohl.de/catalog/images/11031540_002.JPG 12.07.07 # ;) 12.07.11 # So youre not the only HD killer 12.07.13 # ;) 12.07.22 # Wanna know how? 12.07.29 # yepp, tell me 12.07.36 # Connected HD while running => no problem 12.07.41 # but the power connector 12.07.47 # oh yes 12.07.55 # you can insert it only in 1 direction 12.07.55 # sounds familiar to me 12.08.00 # but when you try 12.08.22 # it will fit half inside when on the wrong direction 12.08.29 # damn 12.08.32 # thats nasty 12.08.34 # and you give 12V to the 5V 12.08.48 # yep :( 12.09.04 # i hate that molex plug at all...if i get that guy who invented it... 12.09.54 # lol 12.10.14 # when connecting it on the fly 12.10.27 # you must make very sure that you didnt get the wrong direction 12.10.51 # cause the pins can get contact even in wrong directon. 12.11.15 Join KN|stiff [0] (n=phhome@Fd00b.f.strato-dslnet.de) 12.11.39 Quit KN|stiff (Client Quit) 12.12.12 # i guess the same thing happened to me... 12.12.21 Join KN|stiff [0] (n=phhome@Fd00b.f.strato-dslnet.de) 12.12.25 # it must got power on the wrong pin 12.21.47 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m53.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 12.31.23 Join San||Away [0] (n=test@213-202-130-88.bas502.dsl.esat.net) 12.34.07 # now I remember I have this pending bitmap makefile patch... 12.35.07 # Well, it can't make the dependency problems worse... 12.35.46 # true 12.35.54 # I'll commit it soonish 12.36.23 # It looked good to me (if you fix the typo). 12.36.32 # typo fixed 12.42.54 # does anyone know the syntax for changing the width and height of progress bars on H300 optmized? 12.42.59 # in the WPS that is 12.43.56 # I think it's something like %pb|10|4 - where 10 is the height and 4 is the margin applied to the left and right sides of the bar. It's not a width parameter AFAIK. 12.44.52 # ah 12.45.21 # so if i wanted the bar to be 121 pixels long it would be 176-121 then divide that by two 12.45.32 # I think so. 12.45.40 # oooh, if the eq filters can use transposed direct form 2, i think i've found a way to speed up the eq quite a bit 12.45.57 # someone pay me to do rockbox, please 12.46.44 # * B4gder offers to pay for an occational burger 12.47.30 # * preglow checks possibilities to pay bills in burgers 12.59.06 # there it goes, my build patch 13.01.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.02.12 # * B4gder actually considers a "breakage points" column in the build table. Like all errors sumed up... possibly errors * 10 + warnings 13.03.08 # * B4gder never does useless things, nooooo 13.03.11 # what'd be the point? 13.03.14 # hehe 13.03.29 # the point would simply be the amusement 13.03.51 # like in "preglow scored 12 points" 13.04.42 # :D 13.05.25 # haha 13.05.26 # good idea ...:P 13.05.28 # summed over all targets, i hope? 13.05.31 # yes 13.05.34 # but better Lang v2 ... :P 13.05.39 # pft 13.05.56 # Bger: sorry, but that wouldn't be useless ;-) 13.06.14 # that's why i vote for it :D 13.07.12 # perhaps we should have a swedish devcon again and get langv2 going on such an event 13.07.18 Quit TCK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.07.31 # go go go 13.07.38 # and take pictures :D 13.08.59 # hold it in the pub and i'll make it a norwegian/swedish devcon 13.09.19 # yay 13.09.43 # and probably make a nuisance out of myself 13.10.07 # * preglow drags himself back to work 13.11.55 Quit KN|stiff (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.13.11 # I've found out why the changelog for a particular commit in the build table gets blank at times 13.15.56 # oh 13.16.14 Join petur [0] (n=d4efd6a6@labb.contactor.se) 13.18.07 # in customWPS. How do you display a percentage sign? I want to show the battery level then a percent sign, so im using %bl% but instead of a percentage sign i get a little dotted box symbol 13.18.24 # %% 13.18.28 # i think 13.18.34 # ah of course 13.18.41 # =] 13.18.47 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.19.37 # Yep, that worked 13.19.52 # haha "Warning!!! If you don't send this e-mail to at least 8 500 000 people in the next 10 sec, one blue dinosaur attended with eggplat mutants and Teletubis - evil fagg.ts will come to eat our your family tomorrow @ 17:00 o'clock 13.20.15 # Bagder: Have you noticed that changing a plugin .c file also causes credits.rock to be rebuilt? 13.20.35 # if you get into the first group or 18:00 o' clock if you get into the second one" 13.21.18 # our = all 13.22.12 # no 13.22.23 # I'll look into that later 13.23.04 # I've adjusted the build script now, hopefully it will work better from now on 13.23.15 # Another oddity is the script elfdep.pl in apps/plugins - I assume this is obsolete now? 13.23.23 # yes it is 13.23.31 # we never use it 13.23.39 # it was just work in progress I committed 13.28.57 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@c220-239-137-122.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 13.33.12 # brb 13.38.33 # now, next commit will be interesting ;-) 13.51.39 # OK, I've taken the bait... 13.53.04 # You can't blame every committer for the iAudio X5 warnings.... :) 13.53.19 # I can't? ;-) 13.54.27 # I suppose it's a good way to get someone to fix them. 13.55.19 # hahaha i'm far behind lostlogic :D 13.57.34 # The build time also seems a bit wrong for the first entry - "0001-26-12 52:36" 13.58.07 # yes it got a bit messed up 13.58.13 # wrong colspan too 13.58.36 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp13-adsl-207.ath.forthnet.gr) 13.59.57 # and the link is severely broken 14.00.06 # yeps 14.00.25 # fixed it now, the table is rebuilt again when the build is complete 14.00.36 # but ok, gotta vanish for a few hours 14.00.43 # bbl 14.06.36 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.08.41 # How Can I create a wiki page? 14.08.55 # I can edit but there is no button to create one 14.09.22 # Just type in the name of a page that doesn't exist in the "Go to" box at the top, and then you'll get a create option 14.09.36 # ah yes thanks just found it. 14.11.42 # hehe XavierGr ;) 14.11.49 # :D 14.12.40 Join jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@124.60.15.86) 14.13.14 # What is 'score'? :) 14.13.33 # jungti1234 a joke by B4gder :) 14.13.44 # how bad performed a commiter 14.14.09 # how many errors/warnings he/she made 14.14.17 # hahaha 14.14.31 # 0001-26-12 52:36 Build expected to complete around 13:19:55 14.14.36 # 0001? :D 14.14.42 Quit ze (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.16.04 # relex, sit back and it'll go away in time ;-) 14.16.06 # Yes, the year 10K bug has hit us. 14.20.20 # haha 14.20.52 # Haha indeed! 14.21.06 # Amazing who thought of this? 14.21.19 # High score: Brandon? hehe 14.21.25 # B4gder: All seems well, apart from your bmp2rb commit is now listed in the top two builds. 14.21.26 # :P 14.21.35 # yes 14.21.47 # I bet that is because it includes that same second in both 14.21.47 # So we scored 4.5 points each. 14.22.03 # I'll see if the next ones do the same 14.22.35 # How about naming and shaming the committer next to the score? 14.22.37 # linuxstb, can i talk with u in private for a moment? 14.22.59 # linuxstb: I thought about that too, but it makes things a lot more complicated 14.23.04 # I'll save that for another day 14.23.22 Quit ender` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.27.02 # XavierGr: it's a struck of my facination of useless stats 14.27.37 Join DJDD__ [0] (n=DJDD@220-245-186-182.static.tpgi.com.au) 14.27.39 # It's hard to assign those stats to people though - if two people commit at the same time. 14.27.44 # indeed 14.27.52 # but most of the times there's just a single committer 14.28.02 # Always creative Bagder! 14.28.10 # reboot 14.28.12 Part XavierGr 14.30.56 # hm, it might be a time zone problem... 14.31.01 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.31.29 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp13-adsl-207.ath.forthnet.gr) 14.32.16 # yes I think it was, attempted fix applied 14.32.33 # it include a full hour too much in the changelog 14.32.36 # included 14.33.46 Quit DJDD__ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 14.37.07 Part petur 14.37.35 Quit Membrillo () 14.39.19 Join ze [0] (i=ze@ca-dstreet-cuda1-c6a-130.snbrca.adelphia.net) 14.42.44 Join webguest25 [0] (n=57201423@labb.contactor.se) 14.43.06 Nick Moos is now known as DrMoos (i=DrMoos@m53.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 14.44.33 # Bger! 14.44.57 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 14.47.44 Quit webguest25 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 14.51.32 # jungti1234 ? 14.52.19 # where is korean lang file? 14.52.44 # umm? 14.53.24 # uh? 14.54.56 # what about the korean.lang ? 14.55.18 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@88.134.20.76) 14.55.31 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 14.56.15 Quit B4gder ("time to say moo") 14.57.35 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-131-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) 15.01.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.04.21 Join Febs [0] (i=Febs@dhcp64-134-210-40.hfwsf.sjc.wayport.net) 15.09.30 # Bagder ... can u see the the most recent update to the cvs from the daily page ? :P 15.11.01 # i bet u can't :P 15.15.46 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 15.16.02 Quit linuxstb (Nick collision from services.) 15.16.05 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 15.18.00 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ipa145.1.tellas.gr) 15.22.48 Join Matze [0] (i=Miranda@p5484DDCA.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.34.46 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=jborn@adsl-68-74-183-103.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) 15.39.50 Nick Lynx_awy is now known as Lynx_ (n=lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 15.41.38 Join jborn_ [0] (n=jborn@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 15.42.44 Part LinusN 15.44.57 # bye 15.45.05 # good night 15.45.10 Quit jungti1234 () 15.45.14 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-154-160-47.bna.bellsouth.net) 15.48.38 # mm there is a transparent color in the plugins bitmap loader? 15.49.49 # guys, where's the misticriver's gallery ? 15.50.10 # http://misticriver.net/photos/index.php 15.50.11 # here? 15.50.32 # 10x 15.50.40 # i didn't see a link from the site 15.50.54 Quit stamppot1975 ("CGI:IRC") 15.56.42 Join einhirn [0] (i=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 15.59.44 Quit JoeBorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.00.29 Quit YouCeyE ("Leaving") 16.12.38 # can someone add the transparent patch to the cvs? 16.12.54 # it very simple and works fine.. 16.13.56 # Is Linus's 24-bit bmp loader in CVS yet? 16.14.19 # no but for plugins it works fine 16.14.29 # mm 16.14.34 # it hust 3 line 16.14.34 # s 16.14.38 # just* 16.14.52 Join muesli- [0] (n=muesli_t@88.134.20.76) 16.15.55 # is there any way to prioritize a kernel feature to be loaded earlier? 16.16.01 # (linux-wise) 16.18.52 # Paprica: Where is that patch? 16.19.18 # sec 16.20.08 # http://www.misticriver.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=3509&d=1137963643 16.24.32 # That patch replaces efficient memcpys with a for loop that checks every pixel for transparency. I'm not sure that would be welcomed in cvs. 16.24.49 # hahaha 16.25.14 # exactly where do you use transparent bmps? 16.25.48 # if we're going to support bitmaps with transparency, it is for sure going to be in a separate function 16.25.48 Quit uwe_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.25.50 # i want to use it in brickmania 16.25.56 # it doesn't always make sense to support transparency 16.26.05 # for break effect 16.26.23 # preglow: I was about to suggest the same thing. 16.27.25 # so in the cvs version i dont use the break effect 16.27.31 Part Zoric 16.29.11 Join KN|stiff [0] (i=phhome@141.48.5.13) 16.29.19 # but yes, transparency is a worthwhile effect, but it should be avoided wherever possible 16.29.21 Quit aegray (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.29.37 # since drawing it will be at least five-six times slower than without transparency 16.29.39 # Does it make sense for the 2bpp lcd driver? 16.29.44 # no 16.29.51 # imho 16.30.05 # Bejewelled could benefit though. 16.30.45 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@p549AD11C.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.31.00 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.31.01 # indeed 16.31.05 # lots of things would benefit 16.31.08 # there is no other way to do transparency? 16.31.11 # no 16.31.18 # not without dedicated hardware support 16.31.59 # you could of course do some asm hacks to make it faster, but the bottom line is it introduces a per pixel conditional, which will slow stuff down very much 16.32.16 # this isn't saying we wont have transparency, we just wont use it for everything 16.33.03 # I'm in favour of adding second versions of the lcd_bitmap and lcd_bitmap_part functions for all lcds with depths greater than one, with an extra transparency colour parameter. 16.33.55 # oj 16.33.55 # Or we change the existing function(s) to have an extra "use_transparency" flag. 16.33.56 # h 16.33.59 # good 16.34.04 # mm 16.34.06 # * Domonoky made a port of brickmania to h1x0... http://www-stud.fh-konstanz.de/~dwenger/brickmania.rock 16.34.14 # oooooo 16.34.15 # =] 16.34.20 # its not completly ready.. 16.34.23 # But I would want other devs to comment first. 16.34.33 # linuxstb: new functions. 16.34.53 # its a bit ugli.. i have to change some graphics, and their positions... 16.34.54 Join aegray [0] (n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com) 16.35.14 # and i have to change the speed of the game.. on h1x0 its really fast :-) 16.35.43 # also a patchfile for this.. http://www-stud.fh-konstanz.de/~dwenger/brickmainiapatch 16.35.45 # Looks like we have some conflicts coming up then - Domonoky's ported it to the h1x0, I've started a port to the ipod Video, and Paprica is also enhancing it.... 16.35.49 # can you upload the source too? 16.36.15 # oh 16.36.24 # i didnt see the patch 16.36.30 # source as well, or is the patch enough ? 16.36.43 # enough 16.36.45 # 10x 16.36.52 # :-) 16.37.13 # Domonoky: I've made almost the identical changes when porting it to the video... :) 16.37.22 # :-) 16.37.53 # i think i'd want a special function instead of a flag 16.38.06 # So I can try and merge your changes with mine, and update CVS. Hopefully Paprica hasn't made too many changes in his copy...... 16.38.43 # Domonoky: Did you create some .bmp files as well for the h1x0? 16.38.58 # jes.. oh i forgot to upload.. 16.39.14 # their arent pretty.. but it works.. :-) 16.39.25 # preglow: I think I would as well. I'ld like to know what amiconn thinks before implementing it though. 16.39.30 # yep 16.39.31 # agree 16.39.35 # the welcome screen isnt ready, aswell as the help screen.. 16.40.41 # It would be nice to get colour bitmap support with transparency in CVS though. 16.41.53 # The WPS's are looking quite impressive. It's hard to believe Rockbox is behind this: http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b222/ViperKnight/rockamp.png 16.42.19 # too bad the font size is next to unreadable :) 16.42.24 # hah 16.42.25 # ouch 16.42.51 # bad luck with the font colour too 16.42.51 # bitmaps for brickmania h1x0 , http://www-stud.fh-konstanz.de/~dwenger/brickmaniagrafikgrey.zip 16.42.54 # but hey, not bad at all 16.43.36 # multiple fonts for WPS would be something 16.44.13 # nowthe trend is that WPS makers want to stuff everything possible in the WPS... and need to use a small font size because of that 16.45.02 # and then the information that's actually usefull is next to unreadable too 16.45.05 # -l 16.45.09 # That's probably why battery life is so bad on the h300 though.... 16.45.23 # heh 16.45.32 # is the entire wps redrawn for every frame? 16.45.39 # I've no idea how they work. 16.46.33 Join Domonoky_ [0] (n=Domonoky@p549AE2D8.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.50.30 # i'm pretty sure it can be made more efficient anywho 16.50.53 # I'm guessing the other things we need are a) The ability to set a background image that text and mono bitmaps are drawn on top of; and b) changing fb/bg draw colours. 16.52.08 # none of which are very hard 16.52.22 # preglow: nathanh is working on improving WPS a lot 16.52.29 # lostlogic: so i see 16.52.49 # preglow: also, not the whole thing is redrawn, some parts are dymanic and some static, there is an update_track flag that says when to update the static stuff 16.52.59 # good 16.53.31 # And of course, c) is multiple fonts. 16.53.48 # it seems like all of the tags are calculated each pass though even if not all are drawn, which can also be improved 16.54.09 # currently the entire wps is parsed per frame? 16.54.15 # right 16.54.17 # heh 16.54.19 # as far as I can see 16.54.23 # the token parser should really improve that, then 16.54.31 # number matchin > string matchingh 16.54.36 # exactly 16.54.37 # thom, the lord of type 16.54.51 # champion of keyboards 16.56.20 Quit jborn_ ("Leaving") 17.01.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.03.00 Quit Domonoky (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.04.08 Join ModernExecutive [0] (n=bob@pool-162-84-113-54.norf.east.verizon.net) 17.05.09 # mm how can i do a secs counter? 17.05.17 Join Mmmm [0] (n=mscarrat@cpc2-hem13-3-1-cust77.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 17.05.27 # i want to count 10 secs.. 17.06.05 Quit ModernExecutive (Client Quit) 17.06.06 # pub time 17.06.20 # .. 17.07.57 # I've been using put_cursorxy to move the cursor on the main unit. now I want to do the same on the remote but there is no equivalent function 17.08.12 # WPS: %?mp <= why does that not work in my H300? 17.08.17 # Paprica: Just use current tick. 10 seconds is 10*HZ. 17.08.38 # ok 10x 17.08.44 # I've created my own in menu.c put_remote_cursor which works fine, but is this necessary? 17.09.12 # No - I thought the new gui system should handle menus on both screens itself. 17.09.45 # screen_put_cursor? 17.09.46 # i.e. you just use the standard menu functions, and your menus will be displayed automatically on the remote (if one is present). 17.09.57 # Probably. I don't know the new gui code. 17.10.27 # ok.. thanks..I'll look into it! :) 17.10.57 # Has anyone a idea? 17.11.18 Join Daavid_Webguest [0] (n=53f54ec5@labb.contactor.se) 17.11.22 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 17.12.13 # Hi all. First time on IRC. Yay for Rockbox. Anyway, quick question. Is the tag database working for the H300 port yet? 17.12.27 Join |Lupin| [0] (n=Lupin@l03m-212-195-119-105.d2.club-internet.fr) 17.12.31 # <|Lupin|> Hello, there ! 17.12.59 # Daavid_Webguest: It works the same on all ports. 17.14.40 # I can't seem to figure what I'm doing wrong then. I've used the Java version and I used the correct bat file and all, but when ever I set show files to ID3 and then press NAVI it just gives em a blank screen. Any suggestions? 17.16.30 # <|Lupin|> Should a checkout of rockbox-all also download wiki pages, or are they stored in another reposito!y ? 17.18.25 # new patch and bmps for brickmania on h1x0.. now the only problems are the helpscreen, and the speed on h1x0. 17.18.25 # http://www-stud.fh-konstanz.de/~dwenger/ 17.18.25 # 17.19.07 # and of course it could have nicer bmps.. but i am no artist :-) 17.19.29 # Is that different to the one you posted 40 minutes ago? 17.19.46 # a little bit.. mostly the bmps.. 17.19.53 Quit Matze (Nick collision from services.) 17.19.58 # OK. I'll start again... :) 17.20.15 # :-) 17.21.03 # i will now stop coding.. so please commit it, so that i can build on top of that tomorrow :-) 17.21.32 # Is the PERL version for the tag DB more reliable or should the JAVA version work the same? 17.21.42 # linuxstb: I'm here for ~10 minutes now 17.21.54 # Hello. 17.22.12 # Firstly, did you see my comments about the iPod's DAC this morning? 17.22.25 # <|Lupin|> what's about the wiki pages pls ? Is it possibleo check them out from some CVS repository ? 17.22.44 # <|Lupin|> (oops, sorry to disturb...) 17.22.45 # linuxstb: approx. time? 17.22.57 # about 10am GMT I think. 17.23.27 # 10.54.31 17.23.49 # Plus a volume scale question at 11.05.44 17.24.15 # |Lupin|: what do you want with them? 17.24.55 # K, I can see you guys are busy.Sorry to bother. If you get a chance my question is on misticriver aswell.Cheers and bye! 17.25.15 # ahhh...when i said cursor earlier, i meant the pointer! does that make a difference linuxstb? 17.25.18 Quit Domonoky_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.25.22 # linuxstb: I have no idea about the I2S. Rockbox volume is in 1 dB steps, so the user would have 74 steps on iPod 17.25.42 # OK. I'll go ahead and do that then. 17.25.51 # Are bass/treble the same? 17.26.03 # <|Lupin|> t0mas_: I'd likeTo downloadthem 17.26.06 Part Daavid_Webguest 17.26.07 # <|Lupin|> for off-line browsing... 17.26.30 # ah 17.26.50 # you can use some bot like HTTrack for that... 17.26.56 # linuxstb: yes, 1 dB as well 17.27.29 # but please watch out with the settings... if you "tweak" it to much it can almost DoS a server... 17.27.29 # OK, thanks. That's it for my audio questions. Did you read the brief discussion about transparency? 17.27.35 # I we'd want to make the full resolution avalable to the user, we would have to provide 1/8 dB steps on archos... 17.28.04 # <|Lupin|> Phone... 17.28.08 # k 17.28.30 # I just want to be consistent - changing things in 1dB steps is good enough for me. 17.29.37 # For transparency, I had a completely different method in mind 17.29.47 # I'm not surprised :) 17.30.15 # A special transparency colour would (1) not allow to use all colours for real. Not a problem on 16 bit, but a considerable problem on 2bit... 17.30.42 # (2) It would be slow, as the drawing routines would have to check each pixel for that special colour 17.30.42 # So you want a transparency mask? 17.30.46 # yes 17.31.03 # lcd_bitmap_masked[_part]() 17.31.17 # ...which would take both a native and a mono bitmap 17.31.57 # linuxstb: The WM8751 does volume in steps of 0.5 dB from 0 to -127dB, strange that it's so different from the other Wolfson DACs. 17.32.22 # Drawing a native bitmap with a mask is equivalent to drawing a mono bitmap with the native bitmap being used as a 'foreground colour' 17.32.56 # I also want to add a global background image feature 17.33.11 # But both extensions should come after optimisation, imho 17.34.39 # bbl 17.34.41 # I don't think it would harm to put unoptimised versions in CVS asap. At least that way, we have a stable API that people can start using. Otherwise people will use unofficial patches, such as the transparency colour one. 17.34.52 # * amiconn hopes Linus will be around as well then 17.35.00 # later. 17.35.59 # markun: That sounds like it's a better DAC though. What's the quoted SNR? 17.36.59 # linuxstb: 98dB 17.37.25 # That's the same as all the others then. 17.38.14 # I _think_ I've managed to get the ipod's DAC operating at 24-bit/96KHz, but I don't know how I can test it for sure. 17.38.32 # It could just be 16-bit/96KHz. 17.41.09 Join tucoz [0] (n=81b18a6d@labb.contactor.se) 17.41.25 # linuxstb: use the placebo method. Best test ever :) 17.41.41 # hehe. 17.42.11 # Yes, I'll just say that it increases the warmth and musicality of the DAC and collect my pay-cheque. 17.42.20 # so you think sound on the ipods is within reach now? 17.42.21 # hehe 17.42.24 Join actionshrimp [0] (i=nn@dhcp-163-1-214-233.seh.ox.ac.uk) 17.42.27 Quit aegray ("Lost terminal") 17.42.58 # We have sound, but we just haven't written an interrupt-driven driver that we can link with the playback code. 17.43.31 # But yes, it shouldn't be too much more work. 17.43.41 # Daavid was right, ID3 database isnt working on H3x0. 17.44.35 # cool. Wonder if this will attract any ipodders. I have a feeling that is not the case. Maybe some ipl-users will convert religion. 17.45.53 # It's much more likely to attract people to ipods IMO. 17.45.54 # some ipod-users will of course be interested, but the percentage of the total number of ipod-owners interested in rockbox will probably be waay lower than that of iriver-owners. 17.45.55 Quit muesli- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.46.13 # your'e probably right about that 17.46.19 # me for instance :) 17.47.04 # Does anyone knows that there is a problem with the ID3 tag database on H300? 17.47.25 # The most common criticisms of the ipod - no "drag and drop" music playback, limited codec support, no gapless - are not there with Rockbox. 17.47.34 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (n=d90a3255@labb.contactor.se) 17.47.41 # Rob2222: What's the problem specifically? Does it just not work at all? 17.48.02 # I just created the database fle 17.48.08 # Rob2222: I would just wait for Slasheri to get his tagcache thing ready. I believe that will work better than the current not finished db. 17.48.08 # file with the java instructions. 17.48.59 # Then I switch to quickmenu, select "TAG DB" and when hitting REC to leave the QUICK MENU my H340 just freezes. 17.49.04 # tried 2 times. 17.49.28 # <[IDC]Dragon> (oh, so many people here) 17.49.53 # <[IDC]Dragon> amiconn? 17.49.55 # Maybe it's a problem with the Java application. I would try the perl script. But I would be surprised if it's a H300 specific problem. 17.50.10 # [IDC]Dragon: amiconn left. He said he would be back later. 17.50.17 # <[IDC]Dragon> ok 17.50.31 # (he left about 15mins ago) 17.50.43 # never did anything with pearl, yet. 17.51.29 # No-one has touched the tag database code for months. As tucoz said, all hopes are on Slasheri's new tagcache. 17.51.46 # whats that? 17.51.50 # what does the tagcache do? 17.52.23 # It's similar to the dircache feature - it builds and updates a tag database in the background on the player itself. 17.52.33 # huh 17.52.37 # So you don't need to do anything on the PC. 17.52.42 # that will cost energy at 60GB MP3s... 17.52.49 # ah. is there a new database format and all? 17.52.54 # No more than doing it on a PC. 17.53.32 # In fact, Slasheri's tests seem to show that it's faster than doing it on the PC - you don't have to transfer all the data over USB. 17.53.34 # it only builds the cache on command? 17.53.46 # I'm not sure of the details, but trust Slasheri to do it right. 17.53.53 # kk. 17.54.05 # But yes, I think there's a manual "rebuild tagcache" option. 17.54.17 # BTW, I saw the Java version showed my duplicate files at a hash... 17.55.01 # Is there a tool the checks for duplicate files and can handle the case that the same mp3 has only different ID3 tags? 17.55.19 Part [IDC]Dragon 17.55.51 # Rob2222: I think musicbrainz do something like that 17.55.56 # linuxstb:I think that screen_put_cursorxy (in icon.c) should work for any screen but it needs to be passed "struct screen * display" which I assume tells which screen to print to. do you have any idea/guess what I should pass? 17.57.07 # Or am I barking up the wrong kind of tree here? :D 17.57.48 # tucoz: Ah, thats cool as i can see 18.00.20 Quit KN|stiff (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.02.25 # Mmmm: That sounds right to me. I don't know how you create the display structures though. 18.02.31 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 18.02.40 Join ModernExecutive [0] (n=bob@wm204-165.unwired-grad.wm.edu) 18.03.39 # hmmmm... looks like I'm stumped then...! 18.04.56 Part tucoz 18.05.15 Quit ghode|afk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.06.55 # Mmmm: What are you trying to implement? 18.07.25 # recording screen on the remote..its all there except that pesky pointer! :D 18.08.27 # so is put_cursorxy() just an unwanted leftover function from the old days then? 18.09.03 # (in menu.c) 18.10.24 # Very possibly. I know not all the old code has been deleted yet. 18.11.49 # Maybe it's worth checking the CVS logs to see what someone did the last time they adapted part of rockbox to the new gui system. 18.12.03 # i.e. browse this page; http://www.rockbox.org/since25.html 18.12.04 Join aegray [0] (n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com) 18.13.32 # I'll have a look... 18.14.02 # only one place that calls screen_put_cursorxy though! in list.c 18.14.41 # hmmm maybe I should be calling something in there instead that will support both displays at once.... 18.14.45 Join ghode|afk [0] (n=garudin@host-84-9-105-221.bulldogdsl.com) 18.17.06 # <|Lupin|> C U 18.17.10 Part |Lupin| 18.21.56 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@labb.contactor.se) 18.25.27 # Hi Linus. 18.26.48 # LinusN: Is it much work to implement USB charging into the iRiver Bootloader at a keypress? Cause you didnt need a algorithm, you only need "not" going into usb mode. 18.27.14 # i still don't know how to control usb charging on the h300 18.27.40 # Ah, the pin. 18.27.49 # Just forgotten it. 18.28.53 # Hmm. 18.29.59 # LinusN: have you tried listening to the charge state pin with USB connected but w/o going into disk mode? 18.30.02 # hi linus 18.30.36 # lostlogic: no, i haven't had time 18.30.49 # * LinusN is in the phone 18.30.52 # on 18.30.55 # in 18.30.56 # at 18.30.58 # jkdhgs 18.31.01 # lol 18.31.10 # btw as long as youre in VIEW IO PORTS it doesnt enter USB mode, right? 18.31.40 # yeah 18.31.42 # right 18.31.48 # it works 18.31.59 # nice 18.32.05 # USB charging in RB 18.32.33 # Go to VIEW IO PORTs and connect USB 18.32.39 # and it starts charging 18.32.50 # you can leave the debug screen then 18.33.28 # I only dont know how much USB power that drains. Cause the unit is switched on. 18.34.42 Join Indig0 [0] (n=indigo@semantikos/Indig0) 18.34.51 # So its a little risky. 18.35.01 # Maybe I shouldnt try that at my laptop. 18.35.38 # im going home. afk 18.36.07 # ModernExecutive: Do you started another RMA? 18.36.13 # Until you get a H360? 18.36.16 # afk 18.36.21 # ;) 18.36.55 # :) 18.36.56 # no 18.37.00 # i'll keep the h340 probably 18.37.01 # :) 18.37.13 # but i still have the 2nd rma, waiting to see if linus has a new firmware to try 18.38.19 # Anyone have a couple minutes for a n00b? 18.38.47 # I've got a second-hand AV400 here and a couple questions. 18.43.39 # What's your question? 18.44.47 # Well, I'm looking at the rockbox faq and wondering if I'm going to be losing any video capabilities by moving to this firmware? It looks like RVF is the accepted format? 18.44.54 # Yeah, it's a silly question. I could just try it. 18.44.59 # Rockbox doesn't work at all on the av400 18.45.09 # Ah, *red* 18.45.16 # Should have read the FAQ more closely. 18.45.28 # It only works for the Archos players listed at the very top of the home page: http://www.rockbox.org/ 18.46.04 # Thanks, that somehow escaped me. 18.46.18 # np 18.46.22 # Then I have a general hardware question, since I may as well dig myself in deeper. 18.47.13 # I've found the device turns off suddenly when subjected to any jarring motion (like, even setting it down on the desk). 18.47.29 # Is this some mechanism to protect the drive heads or might I have a lose connection somewhere? 18.47.38 # *loose 18.47.59 # "No idea." is fine, I'm just throwing this out there. 18.48.20 # I don't think units use to switch off themselves during those conditions 18.50.41 # Yeah, it's odd. I have the feeling it's not a feature. 18.50.46 # *chuckle* 18.51.02 # i.e. why I have it second-hand. 18.52.47 Join Rob2222mobile [0] (n=Rob2222m@ip-80-226-0-1.vodafone-net.de) 18.52.48 # bbl 18.52.55 Quit ModernExecutive () 18.53.25 # Alright, I'll just assume it's probably a defect of some sort. *shrug* Still works, I just have to handle it very gently. 18.53.40 # Thanks for the help, and thanks for the patience stb. *chuckle* 18.53.47 # Man, one of these days I'll learn how to read. 18.54.13 Part Indig0 18.54.52 Quit Rob2222mobile (Client Quit) 19.01.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.02.43 Join Dogtanian_ [0] (n=chatzill@host86-128-27-108.range86-128.btcentralplus.com) 19.03.12 Join Rob2222mobile [0] (n=Rob2222m@ip-80-226-0-1.vodafone-net.de) 19.06.33 Join Thus0 [0] (n=Thus0@124.111.102-84.rev.gaoland.net) 19.08.22 Quit Rob2222mobile ("Virca 1.1.20") 19.10.52 Join Rob2222mobile [0] (n=Rob2222m@ip-80-226-0-1.vodafone-net.de) 19.10.56 Join DangerousDan [0] (n=Miranda@newtpulsifer.campus.luth.se) 19.11.16 Nick DrMoos is now known as Moos (i=DrMoos@m53.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 19.16.14 # test 19.16.46 Join ModernExecutive [0] (n=bob@pool-162-84-113-54.norf.east.verizon.net) 19.17.07 # linus still on the phone? 19.20.22 # guess so? 19.20.29 # you didnt want to send back a unbricked player, heh? ;) 19.20.39 # rob, you suck. :) 19.20.49 # no, i don't. 19.21.34 # but OTOH, i would like to try rockbox once 19.21.58 # sure i know 19.22.08 # sorry 19.22.16 # no problme 19.22.31 # then again, I just want to see if I can play some small part in advancing the rockbox project. by taking the risk of drm being lost. 19.22.52 # if that's still the only thing holding up the release of us firmware, that no one is willing to try it, then I'd be happy to volunteer 19.23.05 # thougt about buy a intermational version? 19.23.47 # how do you mean? 19.24.39 Join Kyl3 [0] (i=no@cpe-24-90-232-183.nyc.res.rr.com) 19.25.37 # hi kyl 19.25.45 # hey 19.26.02 # buy a int h300 19.27.31 Quit Febs () 19.27.39 # no way 19.27.41 # Hey are any of you guys aware of the bug that when you press ON on a US player while the player is off it sometimes boots into iRiver firmware 19.27.55 # i guess 19.28.11 # after i put 1.29K + BL onto my h300 19.28.14 Join XMaster-ShadowX [0] (n=50e2db3b@labb.contactor.se) 19.28.17 # it would always boot into the iriver firmware 19.28.18 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@88.134.20.76) 19.28.26 # i couldn't boot to the rockbox side 19.29.29 # haha 19.29.32 # http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e102/saxero/userbars/iRiverIsrael.png 19.29.45 # cute 19.30.11 # these bratwursts are awful. 19.30.19 # should've gone for pork 19.31.02 # kyle have rb on a us player? 19.33.37 Quit XMaster-ShadowX ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 19.34.18 Join Therx [0] (n=pete@i-195-137-39-215.freedom2surf.net) 19.34.42 # kyl3? 19.36.17 # linuxstb: so can the rockbox bootloader load any kernel? and in what ways is it different to the IPL one? 19.36.40 # will it work with the standard partitions? do i need to do anything before the steps on that page you linked me to? 19.36.53 Join XxMaster-Shadowx [0] (n=50e2db3b@labb.contactor.se) 19.37.03 Join KN|stiff [0] (n=phhome@Fcc7b.f.strato-dslnet.de) 19.37.06 # doestnt his question means he has rb running on a us? 19.37.12 # If you want to install IPL on your Nano, then you'll need to create an ext3 partition and install the IPL "userland" files in it. 19.37.29 # what about rockbox? 19.37.39 Quit XxMaster-Shadowx (Client Quit) 19.37.40 # That just works using the FAT32 partition - no new partitions needed. 19.38.22 # If you ever want to install IPL, I would suggest repartitioning your Nano now though - to shrink the FAT32 partition by about 64MB and create an ext3 partition of that size at the end of your disk. 19.38.47 Quit Mmmm () 19.41.10 # and would leave my music intact? 19.41.34 # well, tbh, my end goal is to write something of my own, (alhtough i'll have a play around with one of IPL and rockbox first to get to grips with stuff), so unless rockbox port to the ipod is currently useless then i'm just as happy with either... 19.41.35 # It depends on the tool you use to repartition. There are "non-destructive" tools available to do that. 19.41.48 Join XMaster||Shadow [0] (n=HAJO@ip-80-226-219-59.vodafone-net.de) 19.42.18 # where does the rockbox boot load the kernel from? 19.42.20 # The Rockbox port works quite well - we haven't finished the audio driver yet though, so there's no sound. But most other features of Rockbox are working well, such as the plugins. 19.42.52 # * preglow returns 19.42.56 # hi ive got a problem... do anyone knows something about the hardware of the ihp-140? 19.43.02 # yes? 19.43.13 # sorry 19.43.35 # just ask 19.44.03 # [ 13:31:03 ] �[ Rob2222mobile ] kyle have rb on a us player? <--yes i do 19.44.05 # kyle do you have rb running on a us h300? 19.44.31 # yes 19.44.40 # ive opened my player but I fucking cant disconnect the cable from the storage batery 19.45.01 # i habe no idead anymore :( 19.45.05 # *idea 19.45.15 # simply flashed a int fw with rb bootloader? 19.45.22 # i assume you're trying to remove it at the circuit board and not at the battery? 19.46.20 # yes :P 19.46.35 # well, i've never tried it myself, so there's not much i can say about that 19.47.14 # i am trying to separate the cable from the storage batery of the mainboard 19.47.36 # modern: read kyle? 19.47.46 # sorry? 19.47.47 # but its to solid on it :( 19.47.52 # XMaster||Shadow: why, btw? changing battery? 19.47.59 # linuxstb: where does the bootloader load the kernel from? 19.48.15 # what did he say? 19.48.30 # "linux.bin" in the root of your fat32 partition. 19.48.40 # modern: kyle has rb on us. 19.48.58 # ok, thx 19.49.05 # wish me luck 19.49.25 # You don't need luck - as long as you know how to reboot and manually enter disk mode. 19.49.51 # if linux has detected and already opened the ipod as a disk, then is that all ready to go? 19.50.32 # Yes. 19.50.54 # But I would unmount it before trying to use "dd" with it. 19.51.05 # 19:47:58) preglow: XMaster||Shadow: why, btw? changing battery? <---- well, no my player dont starts anymore after my batery was very low he just shutted down and now he doesnt start anymore... and a freidn has got the same problem with another player und he just putted the batery off and after he installed the akku just a message cam "battery low" and evrything was okay 19.51.47 # kyle: have you flashed a international firmware? 19.51.48 # kyl: how did you do it? 19.52.03 # i think kyl may have rbx on a us player, but he's using 1.29k + bl 19.52.15 # kk, thx 19.52.35 # XMaster||Shadow: i assume you have tried charging it, of course? 19.52.40 Join Thus0_ [0] (n=Thus0@124.111.102-84.rev.gaoland.net) 19.52.45 Quit Thus0 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.52.52 # Therx: In case you haven't seen them, I've just uploaded some bootloader binaries here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodBoot (see the table at the bottom of the page) 19.53.12 # right crosscompiler... is there a guide for getting this going for the nano processor? (i need it if i'm gonna be deving, so no point just getting a binary) 19.53.17 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.53.27 # os? 19.54.00 # linux 19.54.01 # master how the plug looks like? 19.54.02 # ubuntu 19.54.19 # Follow the generic instructions here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler 19.54.20 Quit Kyl3 ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 19.54.44 # For the ipod, you will want gcc 4.0.2 and binutils 2.16, compiled for "arm-elf" - i.e. pass --target=arm-elf to the configure scripts 19.55.42 # k thx 19.56.24 # will the gcc "core" do, or do i need the full bz2? 19.56.42 # I normally use the full bz2 - I don't know what the difference is. 19.56.51 # gcc-core is fine 19.57.06 # thx both 19.57.10 # brb 19.57.14 # you guys are really helpful :P 19.57.50 # modern so you want drm? 19.58.37 Quit DangerousDan ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 19.58.54 # not for myself 19.59.11 # but linus won't release any us firmware until he's assured that it won't kill drm 19.59.15 # i like the us firmware 19.59.19 # so i want to help that laong 19.59.22 # er along 19.59.56 # but you didnt want to flash a int fw? 20.00.53 # does us fw looks or works other than int? 20.01.17 # ah ok. 20.01.36 Join RotAtoR [0] (n=e@12-210-82-91.client.insightBB.com) 20.01.38 # oh just a quick q, with the bootloader, how do i select the apple firmware? 20.01.40 # no i didn't flash to intenrational 20.03.03 # there is one key difference for me b/w the us and int fws 20.03.11 # us has a horizontal configuration menu. 20.03.23 # internatial has a 3x2 grid arrangement 20.03.58 # hmm 20.05.06 # thats a matter? 20.06.14 # it probably won't matter to me in a week 20.06.17 Quit Maxime (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.06.39 # but i'm keeping the drm on the players for now so linus can experiment 20.07.03 # ok. 20.08.31 Join Maxime [0] (n=flemmard@fbx.flemmard.be) 20.09.52 # ill shut down my phone now. bye 20.09.56 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=5343d4aa@labb.contactor.se) 20.10.30 Quit linuxstb_ (Client Quit) 20.10.44 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=5343d4aa@labb.contactor.se) 20.11.59 # Therx: Hold down MENU as the ipod is booting. You need to press MENU very early - before the apple logo appears - and keep holding it until the bootloader displays "Loading original firmware" 20.12.38 # bye rob 20.14.04 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.14.21 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 20.16.41 Quit XMaster||Shadow (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.22.21 # kk 20.24.23 Quit tvelocity ("Leaving") 20.28.49 # hmm, the bootloader doesn't appear to download from CVS... any suggestions? 20.29.15 Join DrMoos [0] (i=DrMoos@m53.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 20.29.17 Quit Moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.29.31 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.29.38 # Did you type "cvs co rockbox" or "cvs co rockbox-devel" ? 20.29.54 Nick DrMoos is now known as Moos (i=DrMoos@m53.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 20.30.18 # "cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@www.rockbox.org:/cvsroot/rockbox co rockbox 20.30.18 # " 20.30.33 # You need to type "cvs co bootloader" 20.30.38 # ok thx 20.30.49 # (it's only part of the rockbox-dev alias) 20.31.18 # kk 20.33.05 # ok, the ipod is scsi4, so which /dev/sd does that make it? 20.34.21 Join webguest58 [0] (n=9bf7a61c@labb.contactor.se) 20.34.25 Quit Rob2222mobile (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.34.51 # Just type "fdisk -l" - that will list all devices 20.34.59 # yeh got it 20.36.21 # k, my apple_os.bin is 4.8mb - that about right? 20.36.37 # for nano it is completely right 20.37.05 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@p54860E7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.38.56 # is the bootloader.bin file created from the build what i should use as "rockboot.bin" as per the instructions (sorry for all these questions where i thknk i know the answer, but i really don't want to muck up) 20.39.37 # No, you use the ../tools/ipod_fw utility to merge apple_os.bin and bootloader.bin to create rockboot.bin 20.39.49 # ah yes, ok thx 20.40.51 # i presume that "Generating firmware image compatible with iPod mini, 4g and iPod photo/color..." is jhust a generic thing, and that it does in fact also support the nano (i did use "-g nano") 20.41.42 # Yes. 20.44.17 # for doing partitions so it's IPL compatible, should I just use the IPL instructions? 20.45.17 # Yes, but make sure you follow the latest instructions - http://ipodlinux.org/Installation_From_Linux 20.46.03 Quit webguest58 ("CGI:IRC") 20.46.21 # anyone with 5g? 20.46.26 # 5g ipod* 20.46.55 # kk, 20.47.05 # * Therx now nervous about actually writing to ipod... 20.47.20 # it's not dangerous 20.47.22 # it always survives 20.47.31 # aegray: I've got one. 20.48.57 # Could we change the colors in http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/FeatureComparison a bit? 20.49.20 # They couldn't have been worse for a color blind person :) 20.49.27 # and i'll still be able to use itunes from windows etc, just having to hold down menu when it switches on? 20.49.40 # Yes - or switch it on first. 20.49.47 # linuxstb_: can you go into diag mode for me? 20.50.40 # I'm there. 20.50.48 # can you find if theres an audio test somewhere? 20.50.53 # and how you would get there 20.51.29 # hmm, on the partition table (as is, unchanged), there aren't any bootable partitions... does this matter? 20.51.48 # make 1+2 bootable/active 20.54.40 # how come it works without? 20.55.16 # dunno 20.56.36 # aegray: No, there doesn't seem to be an audio test that I can see. The closest is headphone detect. 20.56.40 # :( 20.56.45 # that makes things harder :/ 20.57.29 Nick Thus0_ is now known as Thus0 (n=Thus0@124.111.102-84.rev.gaoland.net) 20.57.40 # Yep. But the headphone detect could possibly provide a clue - isn't that a feature of the codec? 20.57.47 Quit ModernExecutive () 20.57.48 # linuxstb: k, IPL seems like too much of a pain (i.e. i'm scared), is there a ipod rockbox image around? 20.58.00 # linuxstb_: yea it is, but we re'd that and its driven by a gpio i think 20.58.04 # hahaha 20.58.09 # or can i just compile it from the cvs stuff 20.58.16 # :( 20.59.06 # they hate us 20.59.07 # Therx: Yes, just compile from cvs - create a build directory, run ../tools/configure (select Normal build), type make, then "make zip", and then unzip the resulting rockbox.zip file to the root of your Nano's fat32 partition. 20.59.10 # they just want to make it hard 20.59.22 # * aegray dives into the retailos again 20.59.34 # awesome, nice and easy 20.59.52 # aegray: Has any ventured into dissassembling an ipod and attempting to draw schemetics? 20.59.58 # s/any/anyone/ 20.59.59 # lol 21.00.04 # :O 21.00.06 # don't think so 21.00.26 # not to my knowledge 21.00.26 # wouldn't really be possible as i'm sure for such a compact design, the pcb will have internal layers 21.00.29 # that would be pretty hard 21.01.21 # LinusN has done similar things for other Rockbox players - it involves unsoldering all the chips from the pcb. He doesn't put them back together again.... 21.01.42 # I keep suggesting he buys an ipod, but he hasn't bitten yet. 21.01.45 # that's pretty nuts - I generally don't have 300$ to blow 21.01.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.02.27 # "wpsbuild notice: No remote LCD size, skipping rockbox_default.rwps 21.02.27 # " <--- that matter? 21.02.28 # pf 21.02.30 # think of the fame! 21.02.33 # the glory! 21.02.40 # haha 21.02.44 # i'm sure apple would try and sue knowing them though 21.02.55 # for doing what? 21.03.08 # * aegray doesn't get it either 21.03.39 # reverse engineering 21.03.41 # Do the older ipods have an audiotest in the diagnostics? 21.03.44 # yea 21.03.57 # reverse engineering is very legal 21.04.15 # erm, i wouldn't be surprised if the EULA says against it 21.04.22 # oh well 21.04.29 # the eula can't forbid you reverse engineering 21.04.30 # they haven't sued in 3 years of this so i doubt it 21.04.46 # it's kinda the same as decompiling windows and releasing the source code wouldn't go down well. 21.04.48 # an eula can say whatever it wishes, that doesn't make it legal 21.04.49 # true 21.05.02 # Therx: releasing the soure code, no, but describiing how the source code works, yes 21.05.07 # suppose it doesn't matter since you still have to buy the ipod 21.05.23 # btw, did that No remote LCD size message matter? 21.05.24 # which would more or less be what you're doing if you're disassembling an ipod and drawing your own schematic on how it works 21.06.40 # hrm this will be much less fun.. 21.07.33 # bbl, eatting - then i'll bite the bullet and put all the stuff on the ipod. 21.08.51 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 21.09.42 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=5343d4aa@labb.contactor.se) 21.10.52 Join uwe___ [0] (n=uwe@dslb-088-064-068-218.pools.arcor-ip.net) 21.13.49 # Therx: No, you can ignore that message - it's because the ipod doesn't have a remote control with LCD. 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Are you offering? :) 21.36.33 # hmmm... we currently have a relatively arbitrary (128) number of pcmbufdesc structs in pcmbuf.c -- this number should in some way be related to the data size of the pcmbuffer. 21.36.45 # I'm looking at it 21.37.00 # webguest49: work on the sdl sim is greatly appreciated 21.37.12 # webguest49: and as it happens, making it work properly under win32 is sorely needed 21.38.37 # Cool. I'll see what I can do. I've got it compiling cleanly under Cygwin already. 21.39.08 # That's more than anyone else has done. 21.39.19 # What problems are there? 21.39.23 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 21.39.47 # So far just replacing sleep() and usleep() with SDL_Delay() 21.40.16 # Oh, and gettimeofday becomes SDL_GetTicks() 21.41.51 # Codec plugins don't seem to load 21.42.09 # And if you alt-tab away it locks up 21.42.21 # Does the keyboard stuff work? 21.42.36 # dhmm 21.42.42 # usleep wont work in sdl 21.42.49 # sdl's only got msec precision timers 21.43.55 # It's only used in the uisimulator sound.c by the looks of it. 21.44.03 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 21.44.20 # webguest49: there is a huge problem with the sdl sim 21.44.20 # But that could be an easy macro I assume. 21.44.55 # in win32, only the main thread can receive events 21.45.06 # erm, how do i eject the ipod? 21.45.25 # You don't. If no partitions are mounted, just unplug it. 21.45.33 # so the button thread won't receive any, and the event queue gets full 21.45.45 # YES! 21.45.46 # that's why alt-tab locks it up 21.45.54 # Keyboard does work sort of 21.45.57 # After seven years and fifty days, I got the USB-boot-stuff working! 21.46.11 # Damn you, Slackware, for not supplying usb boot disks! 21.46.16 # Ah, that explains that then. 21.47.07 # my suggestion is to let app_main() run in a new thread and let the main thread receive the events and pass them on to the button driver 21.47.20 # And here I was thinking it would be simple to fix. 21.47.21 # s/driver/thread/ 21.47.33 # me too, until i discovered this today 21.48.49 # it works :P deving starts next week 21.52.38 Quit webguest49 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 21.52.42 Quit actionshrimp (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.58.06 Join solexx [0] (n=jrschulz@d029044.adsl.hansenet.de) 21.58.16 Quit ModernExecutive () 22.07.56 Join webguest02 [0] (n=9bf7a61d@labb.contactor.se) 22.10.03 Join Kyl3 [0] (i=no@cpe-24-90-232-183.nyc.res.rr.com) 22.11.38 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (n=54829df0@labb.contactor.se) 22.12.17 # <[IDC]Dragon> hi there! 22.12.25 # hi 22.12.28 # * amiconn is back 22.12.35 # <[IDC]Dragon> nice 22.12.53 # <[IDC]Dragon> I read about an issue with AT&T 22.13.19 Join webguest44 [0] (n=51ebb90d@labb.contactor.se) 22.13.26 Quit solexx_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.13.43 Quit ghode|afk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.14.33 Join Bloody_Sorcerer [0] (n=BS@cpe-72-228-239-41.rochester.res.rr.com) 22.15.01 # <[IDC]Dragon> was that a letter from a lawyer? 22.16.32 Quit KN|stiff (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.17.05 # [IDC]Dragon: no, but from the company handling the AT&T licenses 22.17.10 # Slasheri: would you be offended if I did some very invasive surgery on the software codec audio architecture? 22.17.29 # <[IDC]Dragon> are they asking for money? 22.18.24 # no, they just say we're not allowed to distribute those files since we're not a customer of theirs 22.18.34 # which files? 22.18.45 # <[IDC]Dragon> "we"? 22.19.39 # check an inbox near you 22.20.10 # lostlogic: anything fun? 22.20.19 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-122-47.VIC.netspace.net.au) 22.20.42 # Ah, the voice files.. 22.21.20 # The license somewhat contradicts itself... 22.21.28 # wierd, iaudio's x5 firmware seams to have to overlapping section when copying from flash to iram/sdram 22.21.34 # sections 22.21.49 # webguest44: overlapping how? 22.22.55 # preglow: Well, I'm looking at it, and there is a fair amount of wasted logic in the pcm buffer which revolves around allowing writers to write over the end of the buffer and copying that information to the beginning of the buffer 22.23.01 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 22.23.17 # <[IDC]Dragon> hmm 22.23.30 # <[IDC]Dragon> it's directed to Jens 22.23.44 # <[IDC]Dragon> who is a customer 22.23.51 # lostlogic: i'd say just start your work, i very much doubt slasheri would mind, unless he has something to say on your approach 22.23.53 Quit linuxstb_ (Remote closed the connection) 22.24.19 # preglow: I just don't want to step on his toes if he is currently working on enhancing the system 22.24.28 # <[IDC]Dragon> maybe they misunderstood we're not distributing their software or parts of 22.24.44 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.24.47 # lostlogic: i very much doubt he is 22.24.49 # lostlogic i don't think he is working on the playback engine atm 22.24.56 # okies 22.25.05 # he is working on tagcache and h1x0 flashing. . 22.25.06 # at 22.25.07 # m 22.25.08 # yep 22.25.37 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=5343d4aa@labb.contactor.se) 22.25.38 # Bagder: 22.25.39 # but of course, do talk to him when he turns around, there's no way to know what he's got he's working on 22.25.44 # aegray: source dest_start dest_end 22.25.49 # he does have a tendency to surprise :) 22.25.51 # 0x11A8FE -> 0x100148F0 - 0x10015154 22.25.54 # 0x11E55C -> 0x10016344 - 0x1001CB82 22.25.54 # I'm also trying to come up with a solution better than a "guessed" number of pcmbufdesc structs to poitn to sections of the pcmbuf... maybe involving linked lists similar to what profiling uses because they are fast in cases like this where linear traversal is not always the goal. 22.25.56 # 0x124D9A -> 0x10014BBC - 0x10015C94 22.26.14 # source -> dest_start - dest_end 22.26.32 # so block 3 will overwrite part of block 1 22.27.35 # :-) 22.28.01 # newbe korean embedded programmers :) 22.28.20 # lostlogic: From what you've seen of the playback code, will there be much work involved to support players (i.e. the iPod) with audio hardware capable of samplerates other than 48KHz. 22.28.58 # linuxstb__: 44100 is hardcoded in a few places, but moving it to a define should solve the problem, I don't see any particular complications. 22.29.48 # I'm thinking more of keeping track of the different samplerates of the data in the pcm buffer. 22.30.10 Quit t0mas_ ("brb, reboot") 22.30.24 # are there any "demo" kernels around for the ipod which i could look at to start learning the architecture? 22.30.58 # Therx there's more than kernel 22.31.02 # for 4g color 22.31.13 # there's working rockbox, but without sound 22.31.14 # :) 22.31.40 # i mean so that i can learn... (i.e. the whole rockbox source tree is a bit overwhelming) 22.31.54 # Therx i don't think so 22.32.09 # but if you want to get into the things ... start reading from apps/main.c :)) 22.32.31 # linuxstb__: hmm... for things like crossfading it will be ugly, but in general, I don't think the pcmbuffer cares, it' just feeds the data to the DAC over DMA 22.33.08 # linuxstb__: how does the output hardware support changing between frequencies? Does the DMA have to be restarted for it? 22.33.19 # lostlogic didn't you lost the logic while tracing the playback engine ... :) 22.33.26 # isn't that user side though, rather than kernel 22.33.49 # Therx ah, yep 22.33.53 # Bger: yes, my head almost exploded, and I still don't have the crossfade handling fully understood, but I'm maknig progress 22.34.12 # u're brave... 22.34.15 # LinusN: r u there? 22.34.21 # crossfading does not need to work proper for tracks changing sample rate 22.34.23 # yes 22.34.41 # i can think of no way to make that work properly without huge hungs of special case handling 22.34.42 # i;ve done some OS stuff before, just not on an ipod 22.34.43 # Therx: the kernel is very small, see firmware/kernel.c and thread.c 22.34.56 # is that it? (plus drivers) 22.35.02 # preglow: yeah, I guess we would have to track in the pcmbuffer what type of data we were dealing with so we can tell when not to crossfade 22.35.06 # yes, basically 22.35.25 # yes we would 22.36.08 # The way I'm envisioning modifying the pcmbuf code, it will be much easier to do, because the code doing the writing to the buffer will fill out the details in the description struct, including sample rate on platforms supporting variable sample rates 22.36.13 # (now that you mention that :)) 22.37.08 # lostlogic: OK. I just wanted to mention it so you would keep it in mind :) 22.37.31 # linuxstb__: yeah, I will. and I'll make sure that any hard coded sample rates are defined or variable as I work on it. 22.38.24 # preglow: cross-faders I've seen always force you to fix the samplerate - so you are constantly resampling. 22.40.10 # linuxstb__: that'd work too 22.41.15 # So we could simply force 44.1KHz if cross-fade is enabled. 22.41.27 # (or 48KHz if your resampling code is up to it) 22.41.41 # I mean - give the user the choice. 22.41.56 Join Dogtanian__ [0] (n=chatzill@host86-128-171-198.range86-128.btcentralplus.com) 22.42.09 # sure 22.42.34 # lostlogic: Do not forget the voice codec... 22.42.37 # my current resampler isn't really anything to go by, but hey 22.42.54 # we also need to address the latency issue soon 22.43.54 Quit Thus0 ("Leaving") 22.48.01 Quit Dogtanian_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.48.13 # mmm 22.48.30 # how am i need to write: 22.48.40 # ... was updated 22.48.41 # or 22.48.48 # ... is updated 22.50.08 # amiconn: yes, that and crossfade are the parts that my understanding is not yet sufficient to start work on this thing... I might do some code up that doesn't handle the complex features first to test performance and feasibility of my ideas and come back in a second pass for crossfade and voice. 22.50.32 # amiconn: voice adds a really nice complication to an otherwise "simple" reader-writer problem :) 22.50.54 # Voice handling is a bit buggy as it is 22.51.05 # e.g. it doesn't work when music is paused 22.51.48 # amiconn: unfortunately pausing music pauses the DMA, but keeps the pcmbuffer full, so voice would have to be independently buffered, or the pcmbuffer would have to be cleared and refilled for that to work. 22.52.28 # Imho the dma could continue to run and output zeroes. 22.52.58 Quit webguest02 ("CGI:IRC") 22.56.17 # lostlogic: really is a relief to see someone else than slasheri understanding the playback system 22.56.39 # preglow: am doing my best... it's quite complex, what with 3 threads, and 2 buffers to manage 22.56.55 # :) 22.57.01 # yeah, it is, that's why i appreciate it so much 22.57.12 # * [IDC]Dragon thinks about the Archos rec/playback system these days 22.57.39 # i hope he is thinking about unifying the playback systems! 22.57.42 # new version of brickmania has released 22.57.43 # :) 22.57.43 # I'm rather surprised that none of you other smart people had dug into it... 22.57.48 # http://plugbox.rockbox-lounge.de/ 22.58.02 # * LinusN looks in the patch tracker 22.58.04 # Paprica: patch tracker please 22.58.14 # lostlogic: been rather intimidated by it, plus i've never really had to 22.58.16 # for bruck mania? 22.58.19 # brick 22.58.20 # yes 22.58.27 # <[IDC]Dragon> I don't know how you do it for the s/w codec platforms 22.58.27 # ah ok ;] 22.58.40 # preglow: yeah, I guess my interest in the AB repeat and my obsession with performance naturally landed me in it :) 22.58.41 # Paprica: for _anything_ adding to Rockbox 22.58.56 # =] 23.01.06 # blah 23.01.15 # i have a bitmap change 23.01.19 # add the bitmap too? 23.01.25 # yes 23.01.30 # ok 23.01.43 # mmm patch or source? 23.01.48 # patch 23.01.52 # lostlogic: but yeah, if the playback system can be simplified or made more effective in any way, thumbs up 23.02.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.02.09 # ok, then i need a few minutes 23.02.20 # webguest44: ? 23.02.36 # Can anyone DCC me a list.h file from the CVS? 23.03.10 # Kyl3: get it from the cvsweb 23.03.27 # * aegray confused 23.03.42 # I tried it said it couldnt find an .cvsroot file for reading 23.03.45 Join DangerousDan [0] (n=Miranda@newtpulsifer.campus.luth.se) 23.03.47 # or something like that 23.04.31 # oh wait it works now 23.06.21 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.07.56 Join Tejik [0] (n=Tejal@66-215-248-226.dhcp.rvsd.ca.charter.com) 23.09.19 Join webguest12 [0] (n=c22ea29a@labb.contactor.se) 23.09.47 # Hello? Anyone here? 23.10.01 # yep 23.10.12 # hey, do you know much about rockbox? 23.10.18 # are you a developer or user? 23.10.25 # does it matter? 23.10.27 # just ask 23.10.37 # and you'll find out 23.11.26 # oh, just wondering, this is cormie from the mysticriver board, not sure what the story is with what I should be asking here and I'm not sure if it's known or unknown but there are some issues with crossfade/mix options. 23.12.05 # describe the issues 23.12.13 Quit Kyl3 ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 23.12.57 Quit DangerousDan (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.13.43 # i;m a n00b, sry 23.13.56 # These issues have only been present since the options of crossfade fade in/out delay/duration were applied, before when it was a simple crossfade/mix/off option and then the duration up to 14 seconds, it worked perfect. Anyway, when you have mix selected and the fade in/out duration at 15 seconds, it cuts off and doesn't fully fade out. I don't think it mixes like it used to either. 23.14.22 Quit Gibbs (Connection timed out) 23.14.58 # webguest12: it would be easier for us if you could present a step-by-step instruction on how to reproduce the error 23.15.01 # nite 23.15.47 # LinusN, its in the patch traker now 23.15.52 # good 23.15.53 # nite Bger 23.16.39 # ok, if you have your H1XX there, just switch it on and put the fade in/out duration to 15 seconds and put it to mix. The best way to hear this is by playing a song and while it's loud, skip to a song with a low intro, you will hear the way it just cuts off the song towards the end of the mix. 23.16.45 # LinusN: Did you deleted the Battery Benchmark plugin on the Tracker? 23.17.06 # XavierGr: no 23.17.13 # the current crossfade options are bit hard to understand 23.17.24 # slasheri was going to simplify them, but it hasn't happened yet 23.17.45 # Linus: If a dev can do it, please do. 23.18.07 # but there will probably still be the glitches even if the options are simplified no? 23.18.10 Quit Bger ("BitchX: shaken, not stirred") 23.19.07 # That "debug screen then plug in USB" to get usb charging works. ATM my iriver is consuming 300mA over USB and is charging the battery. 23.19.47 # even RB works it has not enough power to start playback / fire up the HDD 23.20.22 # Rob2222: so when in USB charge mode through that trick, it cannot spin up the disk? 23.20.39 # doesn't mix turn off crossfading and just overlap the tracks? 23.20.46 # well, my battery was 101% empty. ^^ 23.20.56 # maybe it works if the battery has some power 23.21.01 # but i doesnt work atm 23.21.03 # it 23.21.12 # Rob2222: ok, this is interesting, keep us posted :) 23.21.22 # i can still use RB but doesnt start playback. 23.21.35 # he tries to start the disk, the current rises 23.21.42 # and then the disk goes off again. 23.22.10 Quit linuxstb__ ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.22.11 # looks like the LX2201 is observing that the H300 doesnt consumes more than 500mA over USB 23.22.31 # doesn't the battery die when you drain it too far? :p 23.22.44 # http://www.misticriver.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=2547&stc=1 that's the difference between crossfade and mix, option a is crossfade and b is mix 23.22.53 # i didnt drained it to far. was normal shutoff. 23.22.56 Join vger_ [0] (n=henrico@cn-mss-cb01-2760.dial.kabelfoon.nl) 23.23.00 # k :p 23.23.42 # i really would like to know the current between H300 and the battery. 23.23.45 Quit Tejik (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.24.54 # Paprica ur gettin evil and more evil! :D 23.25.02 # wont upgrade! 23.25.04 # ;) 23.25.12 # ;] 23.25.19 # The only strange thing is, that the H300 consumes 307-310mA when the backlight is on and the same! when the backlight is off. 23.25.43 # But the battery voltage is rising slowly 23.26.03 # ah, its not strange ... 23.26.28 # did you get that link preglow? 23.26.36 # Linus? 23.26.57 # can it be... the LX2201 is getting 310mA from USB now, and powers mainly the unit. and with the current not needed for the unit it charges the battery. 23.27.56 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 23.31.28 # Why is VIEW IO PORTS showing 3,5V and VIEW BATTERY 3,16V? 23.32.01 # good question 23.32.11 # What is the equelevant of excel in Open Office? 23.32.22 # calc 23.34.18 # VIEW BATTERY doesnt get updated as it semms. 23.34.33 # LinusN: did you see what I said above about the errors and how to reproduce them? 23.35.12 # <[IDC]Dragon> nite 23.35.13 # Rob2222: View Battery reads the wrong data 23.35.20 Part [IDC]Dragon 23.35.29 # webguest12: yes 23.35.29 # webguest12 better tell this error to Slasheri 23.35.33 # LinusN: They didnt read all the same? 23.35.50 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-166-110.dsl.pipex.com) 23.35.54 # can the H300 charge via USB in rockbox? 23.36.00 # lol 23.36.02 # the view battery screen is designed for the archos 23.36.14 # Today I noticed that 'View runtime' doesn't work correctly on H300 23.36.21 # (and perhaps H1x0 tto) 23.36.24 # *too 23.36.32 # LinusN: Well, but it workes OK for me, until I "raped" my H300 now. 23.36.55 # Do you think if I PM Slasheri he'll get it? This is my first time using IRC for Rockbox, not sure who frequents it. 23.37.18 # LinusN: I think the screen doesnt get updated atm cause the "half usb mode" 23.37.24 # webguest if you are registered ha may be able to see your PM 23.37.36 # Rob2222, LinusN: Afaik, 'view battery' uses the filtered voltage while the voltage display on the I/O screen is unfiltered 23.38.33 # amiconn: correct 23.40.04 # does somebody know if batteries for h1xx/h3xx can be used in a pmp 1xx ? 23.40.09 # San||Away: There is a trick to make it USB charging. 23.40.55 # yeah, care to explain? 23.40.58 # A patch? 23.41.02 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@c220-239-137-122.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 23.41.06 # But I didnt know any side effects! 23.41.22 # I'm not registered, does this mean I can not pm Slasheri? 23.41.34 # but it looks like the player doesnt consume more than 500mA so it should be safe 23.42.04 # San||Away: Simply get to debug menu => view IO and connect USB while in that screen. 23.42.40 # But this is not planned so. 23.43.03 # So dont blame anyone for strange behaviour ;) 23.43.06 # ok 23.43.16 # But it looks like it works. 23.43.25 # Charging my battery so. Right atm. 23.45.26 # webguest12: yes 23.46.00 Join owang [0] (n=3ff96cfa@labb.contactor.se) 23.46.08 Quit webguest12 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.46.14 Quit Kohlrabi ("Fast alle Menschen sind Regenwürmer") 23.46.44 # Paprica query 23.46.48 # hey 23.47.10 # question, the archos decodes mp3 in hardware and the iriver in software? 23.47.12 # k 23.47.22 # owang: yes 23.47.46 Quit igor47 (Remote closed the connection) 23.47.48 # the iriver hasnt a hardware decoder? 23.48.05 # in the source it looks like the mp3_playback file is defined for the archos MAS chip 23.48.17 Join webguest12 [0] (n=c22ea29a@labb.contactor.se) 23.48.24 Join igor47 [0] (n=igor47@temple.src.uchicago.edu) 23.48.58 # is that where the mp3 decoding is done? 23.49.09 Quit Therx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.49.19 # Yes 23.49.55 # linuxstb, you see the last brick mania version? =] 23.50.03 # owang: not decoding, just sending the mp3 data to the mas 23.50.06 # im trying to hook into the output of the decoder before the singnal goes through the analog conversion to put some filters 23.50.12 # Paprica: I'm just about to test it now. 23.50.22 # yea thats what it looks like, where is the iriver code for decoding? 23.50.39 # ah =] ok 23.50.40 # owang: you want to look in apps/dsp.c 23.50.49 # enjoy ;] 23.50.55 # owang: what kind of filters? 23.50.55 Quit webguest44 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.50.58 # owang: but you also want to talk to thom johansen, preglow 23.51.04 # ohh awsome thanks. 23.51.33 # well to start i was going to write a standard multiband equalizer, but play from there after i figure stuff out 23.51.50 # hehe 23.52.00 # owang: dsp_process is the place to insert effects 23.52.07 # owang: well, have you got any filters? 23.52.09 # ls 23.52.18 # yea sorta, i mean theortically 23.52.51 Join ghode|afk [0] (i=testing@host-84-9-105-221.bulldogdsl.com) 23.53.03 # details, please 23.53.03 # its sort of a programing exercise for me to see if i can implement them 23.53.15 # 'cause i've pretty much more or less already got some filters ready 23.53.18 # would be great to compare 23.53.39 Join Thus0 [0] (n=Thus0@124.111.102-84.rev.gaoland.net) 23.53.56 # preglow: anything more than white noise from your filters yet? :-) 23.53.57 # oh cool. yea totally, itll have to be in a little while tho, cause im just starting now 23.54.33 # like i do digital audio, so i know what kind of filters i would want, but im just starting to look at code :P 23.54.34 # owang: good at fixed point math? 23.54.39 # LinusN: haven't had time for any more 23.54.50 # ok 23.54.55 # i can make them output eqish sound, but there's a precision problem somewhere, and god damn if i know where 23.55.00 # noise is nice too :-) 23.55.11 # ive had some experience with it 23.55.14 # they worked just fine using fixed point arithetic on my computer :/ 23.55.18 # arithmetic 23.55.34 # Sorry guys, what's slasheri's nick on mystic, just want to send him a PM :) 23.55.48 # webguest12: what makes you think he's even got a mistic login? 23.55.51 # webguest12: I doubt he's ever there 23.55.57 # one of my friends did his dissertation on fixed point arithmetic problems and stuff recently. so i can ask him 23.56.17 # owang: cool, we need more dsp guys 23.56.22 # since currently there's just me 23.56.27 # I don't know, I heard his name mentioned a few times at MR. What's the best way to contact him? 23.56.28 # and i'm pretty slow 23.56.29 # hehe 23.56.32 # webguest12: I'd suggest posting to the rockbox mailing list 23.56.52 # that's where _real_ rockbox stuff is dealt with 23.56.57 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.57.04 # :-) 23.57.13 # Badger: where is that? 23.57.24 # see http://www.rockbox.org/mail/ 23.57.46 # Badger: thanks, is my name orange since I did Badger: at the start? 23.57.52 # cool. well hopefully ill be able to understand the code and do somthing useful. heh