--- Log for 27.01.106 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 12 days and 17 hours ago 00.00.29 # do we have specs for coldfire up anywhere? 00.00.51 # sure, in the wiki 00.00.52 # datasheets page 00.01.24 # what % of rockbox users do you guys suppose is iriver :P 00.01.57 # that's quite impossible to even guesstimate 00.02.25 # binary downloads can be tracked? 00.02.45 Join Midgey34 [0] (n=Midgey34@c-24-11-55-125.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 00.02.51 # sure, but that's not a reliable number 00.03.05 # and we've supported Archos for 4 years soon 00.03.51 # I think we can be sure that the amount of iriver users are rising and the amount of Archos users are declining 00.03.58 # link on the build table isn't working 00.04.05 Quit midkay_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.04.05 # 403 Forbidden 00.04.26 # There are also new players Rockbox is being ported to (iPod, iAudio) - these will all use the same software decoding that the iriver does. 00.04.52 # Midgey34: oops, me broken it... 00.04.55 # oh cool 00.05.07 # yea i suppose an ipod port would be a windfall. heh 00.05.08 # Bagder: How many points for a broken build table? 00.05.23 # he's fixing the contest! 00.05.24 # uuuhmmm... 00.08.48 Quit webguest12 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.11.30 # Bagder? 00.11.41 # Ah, s/o already mentioned the 403... 00.12.00 Join LedFloyd [0] (n=Spiffy_V@c-67-164-200-164.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) 00.12.33 # hmm, breaking all the simulators is worth 360 points. will keep this in mind. :) 00.12.54 # errors * 10 + warnings actually 00.12.57 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.13.37 # Hey guys, I have an H320, I'm just wondering if the definition of "shuffle" under the Crossfade menu has changed 00.14.22 # In the "Enable Crossfade" section. 00.15.09 # How would you calculate a real % battery estimation? Based on total time or maximum voltage? 00.15.11 # Bagder: I remember days where we had 300+ warnings *per build*. Would give a 'nice' score... 00.15.19 # hehe 00.15.30 # and with more targets, you get better chance for highscore! 00.15.47 # Indeed 00.15.56 # Aaanyone? 00.16.08 # You could re-add the gmini builds to make it harder ;) 00.16.14 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@p549AE2D8.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.16.21 # hehe 00.17.22 Join formattinghdd [0] (n=543e16ad@labb.contactor.se) 00.17.28 # XavierGr: LiIon/LiPoly is hard to estimate, because different batteries and different ages of the same battery will show a different voltage profile. 00.17.31 # hi there 00.18.14 # anybody knows how long it should take to format my 20gb drive in the ihp 120? 00.18.29 # Lostlogic: So if you have the runtime, would you choose runtime to represent % level? 00.18.42 Quit einhirn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.18.46 # formatting: that really depends on how fragmented it is :P 00.18.53 # woops. 00.18.54 # now brickmania on h1x0 is playable.. added some sleep, so it doesnt run as fast as it can.. (atleast on h1x0 its too fast :-) 00.18.55 # read that wrong 00.19.30 # formattinghdd: almost no time at all, if you use iriver's firmware interface, i generally find. 00.19.56 # all it does is rewrite the partition table and build new FAT's 00.20.49 # for h1x0: http://www-stud.fh-konstanz.de/~dwenger/brickmania.rock 00.21.06 # well. i dropped it long time ago, hdd partly worked. a friend of mine told me formating could "recover" my hdd (i know it doesn´t realy recover it). i´m formating it with standard windows tool 00.21.07 # if anyone likes to try :-) 00.21.12 # hmm 00.21.19 # someone should add proper framerate handling 00.21.37 # i tried. but it isnt elegant. :-) 00.21.45 # XavierGr: not sure I follow 00.22.35 # oh god. the bar is finally moving on. thank you guys anyways, i´m just gettin realy nervous when something seems to go wrong 00.22.41 # formattinghdd: formatting it is probably going to make things worse, not better. 00.23.04 # if the surface has been damaged, the damage can only get worse. 00.23.11 Quit LinusN (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.23.27 # that said, in the best case, hopefully it'll have just marked the affected sectors as 'bad' so at least it won't try to reuse them 00.23.33 Quit owang ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.24.40 Quit ender` (" It's a good thing money can't buy happiness. We couldn't stand the commercials.") 00.26.37 Join ts-x [0] (n=0cad6dbb@labb.contactor.se) 00.29.06 Quit LedFloyd () 00.30.28 # aaaah Linus, thank you :) 00.30.40 # uh he isnt hear anymore 00.30.53 # just like me! 00.30.55 # *poof* 00.33.23 # H300 USB mode :) 00.33.32 # usb charge mode 00.35.26 Join Chamois [0] (n=Florian@bro67-3-82-231-134-112.fbx.proxad.net) 00.35.39 Quit vger_ ("BitchX: No windows left!") 00.36.06 Quit Infirit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.36.38 Join Infirit [0] (n=infirit@84-104-253-242.cable.quicknet.nl) 00.36.53 Quit Domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.38.44 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ipa145.1.tellas.gr) 00.39.26 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 00.43.59 Quit Dogtanian__ ("ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]") 00.45.18 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-154-160-47.bna.bellsouth.net) 00.46.51 Quit Chamois (" Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 00.47.51 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@c-24-16-191-240.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 00.48.10 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@labb.contactor.se) 00.50.59 # LinusN: Thx for USB charging mode :) 00.51.10 # you're welcome 00.57.52 Quit San||Away (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.02.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.05.25 Nick Paprica is now known as Paprica[sleep] (n=Paprica@85-250-57-45.bb.netvision.net.il) 01.08.23 # LinusN: Did I see right, USB charging is made with 3 simple defines? 01.09.22 # ahh i understand 01.09.36 # it just was enabled for H300 01.09.38 # nice 01.14.27 Quit formattinghdd ("CGI:IRC") 01.14.28 # XavierGr: Are you still editing http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginBatteryBenchmark ? 01.17.42 # LinusN: The charging indicator (blinking battery) doesnt blink in USB charge mode, even that the charging indicator pin indicates charging. is this normal? 01.18.19 # hmmm, that's odd 01.18.20 # But theres a cute plug next to it :) 01.18.34 # lostlogic: theres a plug now 01.18.44 # the usb charging fix just disables the usb mode 01.18.57 # the charging code still needs fixing 01.19.03 # I'll take a look 01.19.25 # * LinusN just fried his bdm-enabled h320 :-( 01.19.38 # :-( 01.19.46 # :(:( 01.20.20 # time to go ebaying again... 01.20.27 # But with the USB charging patch the HD runs and it now consumes full 500mA from USB. with the debug trick it only consumed max 300mA (i think cause the non turning HD) 01.20.33 # hugh? 01.20.43 # really bricked? 01.20.46 # how that? 01.20.48 # LinusN: What happened? 01.21.04 # Rob2222: yeah, that would make sense, the player probably thought it was in USB mode so wouldn't try to do anything with the disk 01.21.19 # connected a power supply instead of the battery, and the h320 didn't like it 01.21.36 # really???? 01.21.42 # with correct battery voltage? 01.21.45 # for some reason 01.21.50 # 3.8V 01.21.55 # wtf... 01.22.01 # i wanted to make the same!!! 01.22.18 # should work, i must have done something wrong 01.22.18 # i only didnt have purchased a power supply yet 01.23.06 # I got the player playing full volume backlight and spinning HD not over 530mA... should be ok, or? 01.23.42 # :( @ linus 01.23.51 # your first bricked player? 01.25.07 Nick BHSPitMonkey is now known as kevin (i=Steve-O@67.64.118.242) 01.25.21 # Rob2222: GPIO bit 23 is 1 when USB is in, but it doesn't show charging in the icon? 01.25.22 # Rob2222: yes 01.25.43 Nick kevin is now known as BHSPitMonkey (i=Steve-O@67.64.118.242) 01.25.49 Join formatinghddheur [0] (n=543e16ad@labb.contactor.se) 01.26.22 # LinusN: And now the unit is fully dead? no battery power? no ac power? 01.26.33 # lostlogic: normal i have a blinking battery 01.26.52 # atm i have the battery % 01.26.55 # LinusN: my impression (based on me and you breaking them) is that the iRiver power circuitry is less than robust 01.26.57 # Rob2222: dead as a herring 01.26.58 # AND! a plug next to it 01.27.17 # and GPIO is DB9 01.27.20 # ... 01.27.45 # dumb question, but is anyone working on the Phillips players 01.27.49 # DB9 was charging and DB1 no charge 01.28.11 # thats bad the linus H320. 01.28.21 # -the +with 01.28.33 # linus: your only H300? 01.29.24 # no, but it's my only h300 that I can use for hardware experiments 01.29.43 # how have you connected the BDM? soldered? 01.30.27 # yes, i have soldered a bdm connector to it 01.30.30 # When the player is charging+playing+disk spinning and doesnt consum more than 530mA souldnt it be possible to power the player over usb in usb mode? 01.30.39 # ah ok. 01.31.12 # Rob2222: should be... 01.31.15 # Rob2222: where are you measuring this? 01.31.26 # USB line 01.31.39 # i took 5v from PC 01.31.42 # multimeter 01.31.44 # then you are only measuring the charging current 01.31.53 # and then a USB bracket (only power connected) 01.31.57 # i bet it draws more than 500mA from the battery 01.31.59 # BHSPitMonkey: No - see http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TargetStatus for current and future Rockbox targets. 01.32.16 # when the disk spins up 01.32.33 # LinusN: It consumes still 310mA ... when disk is spinning it goes up 01.32.45 # to ca. 500ma 01.32.54 # I set the MM to save MAX 01.33.03 # linuxstb: internet just now started working 01.33.05 # and max was 532mA 01.33.07 # because the charger doesn't draw more 01.33.17 # Rob2222: 532ma from USB probably some additional from the battery just during disk spinnup 01.33.18 # (web ports, at least) 01.33.29 # is it possible? 01.33.35 # Rob2222: sure 01.33.40 # cool. 01.33.57 # cool, why? 01.34.20 # so it would be interesting to know if the player uses the max 500mA from USB and the battery "only" as "backup" in USB mode. 01.34.22 Quit formatinghddheur ("CGI:IRC") 01.34.46 # the player takes all power from the battery 01.35.12 # but then, why the USB consumption rises when the disc is spinning? 01.35.21 # ah, you mean USB mode 01.36.15 # I only can say that I have almost constant 310mA drained from USB and rising to 510mA when disc is spinning 01.36.25 # interesting 01.36.49 # sorry 530mA i mean 01.37.09 # after disc spinning its immidiately at 310mA 01.37.28 # but thats cool. 01.37.33 # LinusN: the player doesn't take all power from the battery as far as I can tell 01.37.40 # the player uses all power he can get from usb 01.37.53 # lostlogic: really? 01.37.54 # LinusN: at least not when the AC adapter is connected 01.38.36 # is it possible to charge a battery over 2 wires and take the power from the battery the same time? 01.38.45 # no or? 01.38.46 # LinusN: It takes all power from the VDD side of the LX2201, but that side is powered by both battery and charger 01.38.57 # exactly 01.39.36 # btw 01.39.39 # ? 01.39.39 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-166-110.dsl.pipex.com) 01.39.41 # so if the charger limits the current, it's possible to drain the battery by drawing more than 530mA, right? 01.40.00 # so i would think/understand it 01.40.02 # ah, yes 01.40.35 # but if it has plenty of charge current (ie AC adapter) then the battery is basically in OC by a diode 01.42.24 # i plugged in my USB Power measurement cable without a button and come into usb mode. (usb data lines are not connected). disc is now spinning and he draws 310mA from USB. 01.42.52 # LinusN: Do you plan to hook the rockbox bootloader to the third entry point as well (connecting the charger)? 01.43.02 # yes 01.43.03 # This would allow car adapter mode... 01.43.19 Join Membrillo [0] (n=sam_kill@CPE-60-229-179-140.nsw.bigpond.net.au) 01.43.35 # now i plugged in the USB power measure cable while in debug mode. now he draws the same 310mA but the disc ISNT spinning. 01.44.18 # Rob2222: try checking the difference if you boost the cpu or not 01.44.28 # ok 01.45.19 # LinusN: in which mode? USB/DEBUG/USBCHARGING? 01.45.27 # -USB 01.45.37 # usbcharging 01.46.13 Quit Moos ("Glory to Rockbox") 01.48.15 # boosting doesnt change consumption 01.48.24 # strange 01.48.26 # 310mA 01.48.28 # +-1 01.49.25 # but the LX2201 must be in USB HIGH CURRENT mode. 01.49.39 # it cant draw 310mA when in LOW power usb mode. 01.50.00 # but why it draws more when the disc is spinning but not when the CPU boosts 01.50.15 # maybe we'll be able to find out which port pin is the charger control 01.50.46 # uh, my max is now 545mA .... 01.50.57 # is that still a range that could be tolerated? 01.51.44 # 500 is max according to usb standard 01.51.52 # yeah, i know.. 01.51.55 # hmm 01.53.31 # gotta get some sleep 01.53.36 # nite all 01.53.40 # good night 01.53.43 Part LinusN 01.53.43 # uh 2am 01.54.12 # lostlogic: Thats strange, that the USB consumption doesnt rise on boost. 01.55.07 # dunno 01.55.10 # amiconn: I finished editing for today. There is a missing excel file I want to provide as a standart for measuremetns, but I will try to add that tomorow are you going to modify it? 01.55.27 # I've already done my modification 01.55.37 # (buttons for Ondio were wrong) 01.55.47 # ah okay thanks. 01.55.50 # The topic was locked for a while 01.56.03 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 02.00.11 # amiconn: BTW does the plugin works for ondio? 02.04.24 # Rob2222: when your battery voltage is rising, with USB charge, is GPIO bit 23 high or low? 02.05.05 # GPIO_READ is DB9..... 02.05.12 # let me calculate 02.05.25 # should be 1 02.06.16 # its high 02.07.15 # youre searching why it doesnt blink, heh? 02.07.17 # hmm... mine won't charge from USB for some reason 02.07.32 # naw, that's easy... if mine were actually charging 02.07.36 # whats your GPIO? 02.07.37 # DB1? 02.07.52 # 5B1 actually 02.08.06 # *checks his iRiver firmware settings* 02.08.19 # why some units have 5 and other have D... 02.08.30 Quit Nilisco ("changing servers") 02.08.31 # i habe USB charging enabled in iriver FW 02.08.34 # have 02.10.25 Join hshah [0] (n=hshah@hirenshah.plus.com) 02.10.45 Part hshah ("Leaving") 02.11.24 # lostlogic: Your battery isnt full? 02.11.31 # nope, 3.86v 02.11.36 # hmm 02.11.42 # and, whyt says iriver? 02.11.43 # connecting AC goes to 5B9 02.11.47 # ah 02.11.52 # ah AC 02.11.55 # mhh 02.12.05 # iRiver firmware usb charging enabled 02.12.11 # and desktop mode 02.12.16 # same here 02.12.48 # strange 02.13.09 # have you tried to enter usb when in VIEW IO screen? 02.13.10 # and if I hold rec and plug in USB, ti goes to iRiver USB charge mode 02.13.22 # yeah 02.13.33 # have you the newest build? 02.13.40 # linus set up usb charge 3h ago 02.14.05 # of course 02.14.08 # but now it did 02.14.09 # holding rec and insert usb works for me. stays in rockbox, full usable 02.14.13 # after I let it go to USB charge mode on iRiver 02.14.19 # meaning that it's enable and disableable 02.15.06 # i bet thats the hi/low pin! 02.15.10 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.15.22 # 100mA arent enought to charge 02.15.27 # when RB is On 02.15.43 # as you didnt had a charging indicator 02.15.50 # it bet it draws 100mA 02.15.51 # GPIO1 read bit # 12 02.16.19 # should have checked GPIO1 out bits too 02.16.49 # whats with GPIO1 bit 12? 02.17.14 # before when I connected USB disk mode, it would flicker 01010101, now with USB charge working, it is solid 7 02.17.25 # not sure what it's telling us, and not sure how to control it yet 02.17.53 # i try to shut off iriver usb charge 02.18.07 # write down all GPIO read and out registers 02.18.10 # then change 02.18.11 # then compare 02.18.18 Join Nilisco [0] (i=nilisco@wrath.shellfx.net) 02.18.51 # i set to hub 02.19.37 Quit Membrillo () 02.20.20 # ah 02.20.27 # now it doesnt charge 02.20.28 # anywho, I can't spend any more time on this tonight, it will detect charging by USB ok now, but I gotta do some other work. 02.20.34 # what changed in the GPIOs? 02.21.16 # XavierGr: Now testing battery_bench on Ondio... 02.21.30 # GPIO1 bit 8 changes when connecting usb 02.21.41 # bit 7 i mean 02.21.42 # First remark: The lower 3 lines of the info text are too wide, they are cut at both borders 02.21.48 # we start at 0 02.22.32 # hmm i was wrong with m thesis 02.22.52 # he only consumes 40mA over USB now 02.24.17 # lostlogic: where can this setting be stored? pcf? 02.24.18 # Rob2222: and that bit didn't change before? 02.24.29 # i did 02.24.37 # i changed before, too 02.25.04 # it's possible that the iRiver uses some setting in the pcf50606 to help control the LX2201 02.25.20 # but like I said, I gotta do other stuff for the rest of tonight. 02.25.21 # I think, too, 02.25.26 # ok 02.25.31 # amiconn: You mean the info rendered when someoen selects the plugin? 02.25.36 # later 02.25.39 # yes 02.32.09 # lostlogic: My H300 is fizzing while charging. hmm 02.33.04 # When I plug out USB or connect AC it stops... ^^ 02.35.21 # as in bad noise in headphones? 02.35.39 # the ground on your USB connection is probably screwy or some such 02.35.57 # it sounds like you open a gas bottle 02.36.36 # but its almost unhearable 02.37.18 # that doesn't sound healthy. 02.37.29 # btw, iriver is usb-charging with 307mA 02.37.52 # and no fizzing with iriver usb charging 02.38.04 # will try Rb agein 02.38.07 # again 02.38.11 # mine does not fizz in RB USB charge. 02.38.34 Join Maxime` [0] (n=flemmard@fbx.flemmard.be) 02.38.44 # well, maybe its time to sell my player at ebay :) 02.39.09 # :P 02.39.14 Join San||Away [0] (n=test@212.2.168.80) 02.39.54 # just started fizzin again 02.39.58 # wtf?! 02.40.08 Join gtkspert [0] (n=gtkspert@203.59.146.102) 02.40.14 # does brickmania work on the ipod nano? 02.41.20 # waaaaah 02.41.27 # Rb fizz, IR no fizz 02.41.29 # why? 02.41.35 # BHSPitLappy: I dont know 02.42.20 Quit CrookedRain () 02.53.05 Quit Maxime (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.57.52 Join webguest42 [0] (n=5540741c@labb.contactor.se) 02.58.11 # hello. can anyone estimate release dates please? 02.58.48 # for what? 02.58.57 # Rob2222: shhh 02.59.39 Quit ts-x ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.01.04 # webguest42: :-P 03.01.35 # lol 03.01.54 # got dammit. how do I change my nickname? 03.02.01 # webguest42: /nick newname 03.02.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.02.07 # The release for the iRiver H690 is mid 2010. :) 03.02.10 Nick webguest42 is now known as lamed (n=5540741c@labb.contactor.se) 03.02.41 # gosh. thanks. 03.02.41 # I would like to have charger/chargring events logged in batterybench. 03.03.07 # I'm sure i'll forget that. 03.03.09 # Rob2222: so add them :) 03.03.17 # amiconn: around? 03.03.50 # anyone here is using an ondio? 03.05.46 # amiconn & tomas were misleading me it was a good idea I'll bind the screen scroll patch with repeated left/right clicks. :( but the ondio is already using right long click as a context menu call :(((( soo stupid 03.06.24 # amiconn was just testing battery_bench on his ondio, but I don't know where he is now... 03.08.21 # Bger_ are you there? 03.08.37 # lostlogic: why's that added |else| at gwps.c ? 03.10.22 # lamed: no good reason actually, I just did that because I had considered trying to pull out some code into functions, but that didn't end up being feasible 03.12.01 # and, if you don't mind i'm asking, why doing both checks? |#if defined(AB_REPEAT_ENABLE) && defined(WPS_AB_SHARE_DIR_BUTTONS)| 03.12.48 # (define share_dir_buttons is under ab_repeat_enable 03.12.52 # why not doing only the latter? 03.12.59 # you've asked before, just for consistency with other parts of the file, yes WPS_AB_SHARE_DIR_BUTTONS will only be defined if AB_REPEAT_ENABLE is, but it's more clear this way I think. 03.13.13 # lostlogic: is it possible to make the "battery % digts" in status bar blink when charging instead of showing the battery animation? (only if numerical batter indicator is set) 03.13.22 # o.k 03.13.44 # Rob2222: sure it's possible but *shrug* 03.13.55 # only a idea. 03.13.59 # ok, i must sleep 03.14.03 # night 03.14.09 # good night all 03.14.19 Join Kyl3 [0] (i=no@cpe-24-90-232-183.nyc.res.rr.com) 03.14.29 # good night 03.15.51 Join jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@124.60.15.86) 03.16.06 # morning 03.16.31 # jungti: in 3 hours 03.16.33 # :D 03.16.46 Join BloodySorcerer [0] (n=BS@cpe-72-228-239-41.rochester.res.rr.com) 03.19.10 # good night, I have to sleep! 03.21.18 Quit Bloody_Sorcerer (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.22.17 # good night 03.22.24 # woah 03.22.28 # i just watched me quit 03.22.29 # freaky. 03.22.34 Nick BloodySorcerer is now known as Bloody_Sorcerer (n=BS@cpe-72-228-239-41.rochester.res.rr.com) 03.25.47 # haha... 03.30.46 # so does anyone know what that mystery column is on the daily builds page? 03.32.12 # on the far right, its not even colored. 03.33.06 # good night 03.33.07 Quit lamed ("CGI:IRC") 03.35.59 # Kyl3: it's a "score" for how badly that build is broken... kinda a joke for us committers 03.39.05 # ahh so the higher the number the more proke it is? 03.39.14 # yep :) 03.40.34 # um 03.40.36 # so how did one of them score 369? 03.40.52 # high score: lostlogic 03.40.53 # haha 03.40.54 # because I broke it good :) 03.41.03 # lol 03.41.04 # I broke all of the simulators in one hit :) 03.41.34 # and that adds up to 369? nice 03.42.06 # well 360 -- the 9 warnings on X5 aren't mind :) 03.42.14 # haha who made the bob the builder wps?? 03.42.19 # whats the formula? 03.42.20 # 369 + 93 = 462 Hahaha 03.42.25 # mixin 03.43.14 # Kyl3: 10*errors + warnings 03.43.47 # hmm 03.43.50 # nice 03.43.55 Join mixin [0] (n=wog_1@202.134.255.135) 03.51.09 # Is H300 charge available in rockbox now? 03.51.39 # Yes 03.51.43 # hmm 03.51.59 # It doesn't work to me. 03.53.25 # well it charges 03.53.27 # jungti1234: what's wrong with it? 03.53.35 # um 03.53.39 # it works correctly for me both USB and power 03.53.41 # but if you plug it in while its off it'll boot iriver firmware 03.53.42 # er and AC 03.53.46 # Connected USB. 03.54.00 # And I waited that is charged. 03.54.05 # jungti1234: are you on the latest bleeding edge? 03.54.09 # yeah 03.54.15 # and you held record while plugging USB? 03.54.51 # If hold record, it's booted to original firmware. 03.55.10 # Is it normal? 03.55.25 Join YouCeyE [0] (n=YouCeyE@vp089013.reshsg.uci.edu) 03.55.39 # jungti1234: have to plug USB while it is in rockbox 03.55.58 # jungti1234: yes, it is supposed to go to iRiver firmware if it goes on for any reason and record is held 03.56.06 Part YouCeyE ("Leaving") 03.56.29 # what? 03.56.37 # in rockbox? 03.56.52 Join Rob- [0] (n=robbie@haylott.plus.com) 03.56.56 # Then, become PC and USB connection. 03.57.12 # jungti1234: in rockbox, hold record, plug USB 03.57.16 # it will charge from USB 03.57.39 # oops 03.57.41 # right! 03.58.24 # hehe thanks 03.59.19 # and sorry, I don't read well English. 03.59.27 # it's all good :) 04.00.08 # :) 04.06.54 Join gtkspert_ [0] (n=gtkspert@203.59.146.102) 04.16.29 # anyone have some suggestions on key mappings for blackjack? 04.17.20 # what is blackjack? :) 04.17.20 # on the h300, I have PLAY = hit, REC = stay, NAVI = doubledown, AB = save/resume, STOP = quit 04.17.28 # a cardgame 04.17.30 # ah 04.17.36 # you try to get 21 04.18.17 # 21? 04.18.23 # points 04.18.31 # ah I know 04.18.54 # It's gambling. 04.19.43 # yep 04.20.22 # what is battery bench? 04.20.31 # playtime check? 04.21.49 # basically. its a plugin that write the play time to disk when it spins up giving a decent estimate of playtime 04.23.14 Quit ehntoo ("Leaving") 04.25.04 Join lamed [0] (n=5540757c@labb.contactor.se) 04.25.34 # what's amiconn's mailbox? 04.26.48 Quit San||Away (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.30.03 Quit lamed (Client Quit) 04.30.33 Quit Kyl3 ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 04.30.59 Quit Bloody_Sorcerer ("HOLY SHIT ITS ON FIRE") 04.32.40 Quit darkless (Client Quit) 04.32.45 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48.adsl.vby.tiscali.dk) 04.38.22 Quit jungti1234 () 04.43.29 Quit Blipus (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.46.00 Quit mixin () 04.54.34 Quit CoCoLUS ("changing servers") 04.54.55 Join CoCoLUS [0] (n=coco@h081217139221.dyn.cm.kabsi.at) 05.01.04 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.01.35 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB73481.ipt.aol.com) 05.02.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.08.06 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.14.06 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.22.53 Quit midkay (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.23.00 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@c-24-16-191-240.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 05.44.09 Quit tvelocity ("Leaving") 05.44.33 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 05.47.21 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.59.01 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@c220-239-137-122.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 05.59.47 Quit JdGordon (Client Quit) 05.59.53 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@c220-239-137-122.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 06.01.38 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.02.52 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@c220-239-137-122.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 06.04.12 Join San||Away [0] (n=test@212.2.168.80) 06.09.13 Part Midgey34 06.26.54 Quit San||Away (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.31.25 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-154-160-47.bna.bellsouth.net) 06.47.38 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-166-110.dsl.pipex.com) 06.59.52 Quit RotAtoR ("zzzzz") 07.02.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.05.37 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.08.12 Quit TCK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.09.09 Quit mikearthur ("Konversation terminated!") 07.18.59 Join Membrillo [0] (n=sam_kill@CPE-60-229-179-140.nsw.bigpond.net.au) 07.19.33 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 07.19.38 # does anyone know why the White setting on the H300 colour changer isnt 0,0,0 RGB? 07.20.09 # i think it has a slight blue tinge to it, because if i have a white image (0,0,0) it isnt the same colour as the background 07.26.02 Join B4gder [0] (n=daniel@static-213-115-255-230.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se) 07.29.37 # its 222,227,222 07.47.46 Quit Membrillo () 07.53.58 Quit aegray ("leaving") 07.54.10 Join aegray [0] (n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com) 08.04.24 Join San||Away [0] (n=test@212.2.168.80) 08.10.14 Join YouCeyE [0] (n=YouCeyE@vp089013.reshsg.uci.edu) 08.10.24 Part YouCeyE ("Leaving") 08.16.30 Quit Infirit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.16.46 Join Infirit [0] (n=infirit@84-104-253-242.cable.quicknet.nl) 08.18.14 Part Paul_The_Nerd 08.22.36 Quit midkay_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.22.45 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@c-24-16-191-240.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 08.23.45 Part Sando 08.23.49 Join Sando [0] (n=lolsteam@techgaming.net) 08.26.16 Quit San||Away (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.34.13 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.38.23 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@labb.contactor.se) 08.40.29 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 08.43.36 # LinusN: shame about the h300 08.43.43 # yeah 08.43.48 # really weird, though 08.43.54 # and i just can't understand what i did wrong... 08.44.03 # never had anything die just by replacing a battery with a power supply 08.44.09 # me neither 08.44.10 # something i've done jillions of times 08.44.29 # there's no reason it should go wrong either, so there you go, heh 08.44.59 # LinusN ? what has happened ? 08.45.02 Nick Bger_ is now known as Bger (n=Bager@83.222.160.88) 08.45.23 # i connected a power supply instead of a battery to my h320 08.46.12 # weird.. what kind of supply that was? 08.46.47 # and it died ? :( 08.48.04 # Slasheri: mansion ep613 08.48.49 # Slasheri: read the logs? lostlogic's going to do some surgery on the pcmbuf/playback system 08.49.22 # preglow: not yet 08.49.45 # not much to be read, he just asked you if you had any work on progress, etc, going on there 08.50.42 # not much, i have been too busy at work.. 08.53.02 # lostlogic: i don't mind, just try if you have got some good ideas :) 08.53.53 # mooning 08.54.21 # morning amiconn 08.55.00 Quit Sando (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.55.00 Quit `3nergy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.56.31 Join `3nergy [0] (n=3nergy@techgaming.net) 08.56.41 # morning all... 08.56.43 # (2am) 08.57.40 # BHSPitLappy: go back to sleep ;-) 08.57.47 # back? 08.58.04 # where is this "sleep", it's not on any map local to my location 08.58.20 # sleep... 08.59.40 Join DJDD__ [0] (n=DJDD@58.164.118.81) 09.02.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.02.18 # * LinusN gestures hypnotically...sleep...sleeeeeep... 09.03.19 Join einhirn [0] (i=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.03.21 # * LinusN falls asleep (never try this in a mirror) 09.04.02 # hahah 09.04.07 # don't need to try that hard to make me sleep 09.04.58 # * BHSPitLappy plans a heist at the preglow villa 09.05.22 # did the gif viewer ever make cvs? 09.06.06 # there's a gif viewer? 09.06.22 # apparently, in linux s t b's backyard... 09.06.41 # I watched an animated gif on my nano with it :D 09.06.54 # backyards scare me ;-) 09.07.45 # w00t 09.08.05 # there aren't license issues with GIF files nowadays, yep ? 09.08.12 # correct 09.08.26 # still no excuse to use them 09.08.28 # they're crap 09.08.30 # smelly crap 09.08.40 # 8bit limited crap 09.08.40 # but they exist ... 09.09.18 # yes, i didn't say you can't view them 09.09.24 # just don't create them 09.09.29 # yep 09.09.31 # that makes jesus and all kinds of other prophets cry 09.10.18 # The latest expiration date of the GIF-related patents will most probably be Friday, 11 August 2006 (source: en.wikipedia.org) 09.11.57 Quit `3nergy (Remote closed the connection) 09.12.30 # haha www.burnallgifs.org 09.12.33 Join Sando [0] (n=lolsteam@techgaming.net) 09.12.47 # If only transparencies were handled correctly in IE... :( 09.12.53 # Then we could burn them. 09.13.08 Join `3nergy [0] (n=3nergy@techgaming.net) 09.13.09 # I want my alpha channel! nOW! 09.13.31 # mmm, rgba. 09.13.49 # just dump IE 09.14.06 # I already did. Too bad there still is many who won't do the same. 09.14.12 # http://phil.ipal.org/tc.html 09.14.16 # let them suffer 09.14.23 # :-) 09.14.44 # If I told my supervisors that, they would nag the hell out of me :) 09.14.51 # go go go 09.14.59 # don't be a chicken ;-) 09.15.11 # hahah 09.15.14 # Btw, firefox does not handle the transparency correctly when printing 09.15.16 # that's my stance on the whole thing 09.15.22 # you use, tough luck 09.15.30 # lose? 09.15.34 # but then again, i don't exactly do web work at work 09.15.57 # * dwihno does evil xhtml 09.16.40 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.17.34 # hehe 09.17.47 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB73481.ipt.aol.com) 09.18.04 # B4gder did you see the last link i pasted? 09.18.23 # no 09.19.31 # just open it and see the first image 09.24.15 # Bger: Interesting, though it seems there are problems. 09.24.30 # This thing displays sloo-oow both in Firefox and IE 09.24.47 # The windows image viewer can't display it at all 09.25.36 # hehe, yes, but at least it shows that a gif can have more than 256 colors 09.27.06 # Photoshop Elements can't load it either, but ms paint can (!) 09.28.44 # amiconn: i was thinking about the draw modes, and how they could apply to color bitmaps 09.29.25 # and i'm not sure how it should be 09.29.55 # They can't 09.29.55 # i believe having a transparent color is a good thing 09.29.59 # nope 09.30.22 # Would be ok-ish on a 16bit+ display, but not on 2bit 09.30.45 # what do you suggest then? 09.30.52 # Imho we should have a function that takes both a native bitmap and a mono bitmap as a mask 09.31.06 # woudln't that be kind of slow? 09.32.02 # No, it would actually be faster 09.32.20 # With a special colour, each pixel would need to be checked for that colour 09.32.34 # A mask bitmap is 1bit, which is certainly less data 09.32.41 # yes, when the pixel is already loaded in a cpu register 09.33.12 # the mask bitmap would need lots of shifting and stuff 09.33.14 # Basically, drawing a masked native bitmap is the same as drawing a mono bitmap and using the native bitmap as the foreground 'colour' 09.33.15 # and if the bitmap is created on demand, the mask would also need to be created on demand 09.33.59 # drawing a 16-bit color bitmap: load pixel, compare with #xxxxx, store/ignore 09.34.12 # how can a mask bitmap be faster than that? 09.34.26 # #xxxxx would even be in a register 09.34.53 Join jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@124.60.15.86) 09.34.56 # hey 09.34.59 # a mask bitmap will require extra memory fetches and shifting 09.35.02 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.35.14 # Single stores are slow. My optimised routines will use burst access 09.35.19 # maybe it's good for 2-bit images but certainly not for 16-bit 09.35.50 # ok, i'll give you the benefit of a doubt 09.36.48 # who is Pittman Derek? 09.36.53 # another unfortunate effect of the mask bitmap would be that the wps images would take even more space 09.37.09 # jungti1234: should we know that? 09.37.13 Join moda [0] (i=modafrom@CPE-138-130-215-232.qld.bigpond.net.au) 09.37.24 # hmm.. I don't know. 09.37.27 # guys, i need some help with the wps's 09.38.08 # ive got a background image, and im trying to get the progress bar in the transparent area i made in it, but its either too high, and then i set it down one line, and its too low. help! 09.38.13 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS 09.38.16 # amiconn: have you started working on the optimized color lcd code? 09.38.18 # haha 09.38.53 # moda: the progress bar is placed on text rows positions 09.38.55 # moda change the font 09.39.08 # hrm 09.39.12 # for now you can't say pixel positions 09.39.18 # ok, will see 09.39.23 # and also, ive got this problem: http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=36074 09.40.28 # anyone not a regged user at MR will get a shock when they follow links to that site 09.40.35 # why? 09.40.38 Quit JdGordon ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 09.40.46 # that awful color/theme thing 09.40.47 # the default theme at mr is awful 09.40.50 # B4gder u're registered, don't complain! 09.41.00 # I'm just telling 09.41.04 # oh, so, any help? 09.41.20 # moda: i assume you are using the optimized build with pink transparency? 09.41.38 # yea 09.41.52 # and the bg is pink in all your play status icons? 09.42.02 # erm, no 09.42.11 # hm 09.43.51 # iirc, the person who made the rockamp skin has fixed it, i think 09.43.52 # moda: i don't know how your design looks like, but i can imagine you want your icons transparent too 09.44.23 # its just a background, and when its played, the play button is ontop of the background.... if that makes any sense 09.45.23 # I'm making WPS too. 09.45.45 # these mask bitmaps, would they be generated from a bitmap with pink == transparent, or would they need to be drawn too? 09.46.00 # they need to be drawn 09.46.52 Quit gtkspert_ ("leaving") 09.47.41 # bah 09.47.42 # forget it 09.47.45 # preglow: was that for amiconn or moda? 09.47.52 # for amiconn :> 09.49.39 # if the mask bitmap approach requires separate mask bitmaps to be drawn, i'd say forget it 09.49.41 Nick gtkspert is now known as gtkspert_laptop (n=gtkspert@203.59.146.102) 09.49.43 # too cumbersome 09.50.09 Quit Infirit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.50.22 # I agree that the draw functions would need to make the mask 09.50.31 Join Infirit [0] (n=infirit@84-104-253-242.cable.quicknet.nl) 09.50.39 # which then somehow defeats its purpose I guess 09.51.00 # it could be an init time thing 09.51.11 # or a bmp2rb thing 09.51.59 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@c220-239-137-122.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 09.55.19 Join gtkspert [0] (n=gtkspert@203.59.146.102) 09.55.38 # jungti1234: hey, i figured out how to make it so you can have things between the hours.. but it will make it more complicated... is it really needed? 09.55.46 # um? 09.55.52 Join Membrillo [0] (n=sam_kill@CPE-60-229-179-140.nsw.bigpond.net.au) 09.56.13 # If you want, do so. 09.56.40 # JdGordon: http://cafe.naver.com/iriverh300/1997 09.57.53 # damn.. that looks awesome... who made it :D 09.58.46 # hahahah 10.01.21 Quit Membrillo () 10.02.01 Join Membrillo [0] (n=sam_kill@CPE-60-229-179-140.nsw.bigpond.net.au) 10.02.54 # JdGordon you could just fix the count of "events" in a day to 20 (for example) 10.02.56 Quit Membrillo (Client Quit) 10.03.07 # and to input the time too 10.03.30 Join Membrillo [0] (n=sam_kill@CPE-60-229-179-140.nsw.bigpond.net.au) 10.04.31 # Bger: ye, thats the easy way.. but it will suk if its done like that.... 10.04.38 # Now we can change the width of progress bars, do you think its possible to align it differently than center? 10.04.40 Join San||Away [0] (n=test@212.2.168.80) 10.04.44 # on H300 10.04.56 # JdGordon why would suck ? 10.05.17 # it depends on how u would make the time input 10.05.26 # Membrillo: you want it? 10.05.46 # make 10.06.04 # coz it would show every timeslot, even if its blank.... ill do something like that.. but different 10.06.14 # * Bger proves his bad english again :) 10.06.24 # na, i got ya 10.06.41 # He is better than me. 10.06.44 # JdGordon heh, of course u'll show only the entered things 10.07.38 # Rob2222 the idea for the charger inserted is a good one ... i'll try to implement it asap 10.11.01 Quit Infirit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.11.24 Join Infirit [0] (n=infirit@84-104-253-242.cable.quicknet.nl) 10.13.11 Quit ghode|afk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.13.20 # im learning C still. Im very very very basic. no where near ready to actually start coding. Do you think someone would be able to work out how to align the progress bar on H300 WPS? It would be very useful for some WPSs im making 10.13.45 # of course someone can do that 10.13.58 # Membrillo: depends how its draw.. it could be damn simple, or a huge PITA to do 10.14.00 # how do i make a bmp mask? 10.14.11 # ok fair enough 10.14.28 # well, if its really simple, would someone mind giving it a stab when they have the time? 10.14.30 # moda: you don't need to 10.14.47 # the masking we're discussing isn't implemented yet 10.14.59 # so, how do i get rid of the problem that im having, right now? 10.15.05 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.15.10 # use pink as background in your images 10.15.42 # ok 10.16.20 # LinusN: have you found a H300 to buy yet? 10.16.54 # sort of, i'm still bidding 10.16.59 # nice 10.17.02 # whats it at now? 10.17.25 # the price that is 10.17.44 # one option is £65+shipping for Lanesras broken one 10.18.32 # you broke your h300 so your going to replace it with another broken one? kind of defeats the purpose doesnt it? 10.19.13 # Hmm, i would also like to get some broken units but i haven't found any so far.. 10.19.55 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@p54BD4536.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.21.07 # Slasheri: broken in what way? 10.21.09 # ok, so in photoshop, how do i make a transperant layer for all the bmps? 10.21.54 # Membrillo: that doesn't matter so much 10.21.56 # any area you want to be transparent, make it Red = 255, Blue = 0, Green = 255 10.22.26 # but now i go to eat 10.23.02 # yea, but i want everything showing, and people say make the bg transparent?!?!?! 10.23.18 # what do you mean everything showing 10.23.39 # everything in the image i want to be drawn 10.23.52 # at the moment text is always going to be behind an image unless you make a transparent so you can see the text through 10.24.07 # a transparent area* 10.24.16 # its not text, its just when i play something, then fastforward the play area is transparent instead of the background 10.24.52 # what do you mean by the play area? 10.25.41 # moda: you make the bg transparent by drawing it in pink 10.26.06 # magenta 10.26.11 # whatever 10.26.14 # lol 10.26.49 # moda: it would be a lot easier if you took a screenshot of it se we can see what you mean 10.27.05 # Fuschia 10.27.11 # magenta. 10.27.27 # Fuschia :| 10.27.33 # MAGENTA 10.27.44 Quit San||Away (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.27.49 # * Membrillo glares at BHSPitLappy 10.27.58 # * BHSPitLappy glares back 10.27.59 # fushcia 10.28.23 # 06MAGENTA 10.28.37 # ok my IRC arent up to you :P 10.28.41 # IRC skillz* 10.28.59 # take a year of theater tech, short-stack! 10.29.16 # hehe 10.29.31 # * BHSPitLappy passes out from exhaustion 10.29.59 # * Membrillo kicks him while he's down 10.30.07 Join stamppot1975 [0] (n=alberink@cc516682-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) 10.30.50 # * BHSPitLappy was actually a dummy, bomb-equipped 10.31.19 # * Membrillo is now missing an arm and a leg 10.31.33 Quit stamppot ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 10.31.39 # * BHSPitLappy sneaks up from behind and chops off the other two 10.33.14 # * Membrillo always thought he had three legs ;);) 10.33.18 # * Membrillo notices tumbleweed rolling past 10.34.40 # gross 10.35.31 # haha sorry. saw the opportunity and couldn't resist 10.36.18 # it's ok, some people just can't keep that body part off their mind 10.36.44 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.36.44 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@p54BD4536.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.39.01 Quit DJDD__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.40.13 # Morning all. Any H300 Brickmania players around will to test something for me? 10.40.32 # I've made some changes, and want to make sure it still plays at the same speed on a h300. 10.40.36 # yep 10.40.36 # sure 10.40.52 # no probs 10.40.56 # Would you like a patch or the .rock file? 10.41.03 # .rock please 10.41.09 # Coming right up... 10.41.38 # http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/brickmania.rock 10.42.27 # what am i testing? 10.42.56 # Does it feel exactly the same as before? 10.43.10 # Possibly the speed has changed. 10.44.06 # feels pretty normal 10.44.11 # nothing seems to have changed 10.44.15 # still plays smoothly 10.45.38 # OK, thanks. It should hopefully play at the same speed on all (future) targets now as well. 10.45.53 Join KN|stiff [0] (n=phhome@Fcc8b.f.strato-dslnet.de) 10.46.21 # hmm 10.46.55 # one thing. I don't know if its just randomized what powerup you get, but if its possible to adjust likeliness of getting certain powerups I think you should make it harder to get extra lives. I got to the stage once where i had 39 lives or something crazy 10.47.25 # It seem like no change. 10.48.02 # Membrillo: I don't want to change the game itself (I'll leave that to Paprica), I'm just making it more portable across the different Rockbox targets. 10.48.32 # yeah of course. thats cool 10.48.41 # linuxstb: ... :D 10.48.47 # Our baby sleep well 10.48.57 # so is a monochrome version in the making? 10.49.01 # BHSPitLappy: I assume you are looking for Brickmania on your Nano? 10.49.05 # heh 10.49.14 # Membrillo: Someone is working on a h1x0 version. 10.49.14 # it's fun on the 5G 10.49.40 # It's not properly ported to the 5G yet either - it's designed for a 220x176 LCD. 10.49.56 # yeah, but bigger is at least okay 10.50.01 # whats the res of the 5g? 10.50.05 # 320x240 10.50.07 # QVGA 10.50.11 # nano version :/// 10.50.19 # 176x132 10.50.25 # oh of course. i knew that 10.50.34 # 320x240 is what i have my videos at 10.50.44 # preglow: I tried using the clickwheel, and as you predicted, it doesn't send enough scroll events. 10.51.10 # But I prefer the left/right buttons anyway - using the clickwheel involves too much movement. 10.51.17 # oh? 10.51.24 # i kinda like the clickwheel for that kind of game 10.51.31 # Have you tried Brick in the retailos? 10.52.13 # haha, ive just found a way to avoid losing lives in brickmania 10.52.15 # Maybe it would be better if the sensitivity was greater on the wheel, but I prefer Brickmania with left/right to Brick with the clickwheel. 10.52.26 # Membrillo: Pause and then resume? 10.52.31 # yeah haha 10.52.36 # just found it then 10.54.21 # preglow: But I think we should make the clickwheel step a setting. Plugins could then override this setting if they needed to - the same thing is done with the backlight timeout setting in lots of places. 10.54.33 # linuxstb: yeah, i guess that's ok 10.54.41 # i'm just worried that the event density will be a bit high 10.56.15 # How many do you skip at the moment? 10.56.38 # 8 10.56.39 # i think 10.57.05 # nah, 4 11.02.01 # nite, #rockbox 11.02.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.04.04 # nitey 11.04.08 # have nice 11.04.18 # you too 11.12.51 Join lamed [0] (n=554076aa@labb.contactor.se) 11.13.17 # amiconn: around? 11.17.20 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-154-160-47.bna.bellsouth.net) 11.17.33 # lamed: sort of 11.18.04 # preglow: The mask bitmaps have to be separate of course. Not doing this would defeat their purpose 11.18.35 # Reserving a specific colour to be the background is ok-ish for high colour displays, 11.18.55 # but not for 2 or 4 bit 11.19.24 # ...and handling both in a different way would be a bad thing imho 11.20.08 # Of course it might be possible to let the loader create both the native bitmap and the mask from the .bmp 11.20.16 # this will make life pain for graphic artists 11.20.26 # and i can't say i like it, despite the performance boost 11.20.47 # This could even be done with the same colour for all >1bit targets then 11.21.09 # preglow: I don't see how this would make it a pain 11.21.23 # Using pink actually *is* a pain, imho 11.21.25 # you don't see how dealing with two separate bitmaps instead of one is a pain? 11.22.12 # amiconn: iirc, your suggestion is basically to do it with mask bitmaps internally, and use a transparent color in the bmp files? 11.22.32 # letting the loader create the mask 11.22.51 # ... assuming you load the bg bmp 11.22.57 # no 11.23.08 # there would be only one bmp file 11.23.17 # with pink transparency 11.23.31 # but the bmp loader would create two bitmaps internally 11.23.32 # LinusN: Yes, this was an afterthought, for wps and such 11.23.36 # Good morning. 11.23.38 # I understand 11.23.41 # Didn't think of this 11.23.47 # but what if you make a draw function that draws in the bg pic 11.24.05 # B4gder: ? 11.24.11 # heh 11.24.17 # compositor nightmare 11.24.19 # the mask creation would need to be done all the time 11.24.20 # what's on top of what 11.24.27 # B4gder: Why? 11.24.40 # because there can be drawin in both the bg and the fg 11.24.56 # You can tell the bmp loader what to make 11.25.10 # yes, if loading is the only way to get a bg 11.25.21 # linus: how did u kill ur player? 11.25.54 # I'm just saying that putting functions in the loader will assume that you load stuff to get it done 11.26.19 # amiconn: what's your mailbox? I want to send you some work about changing horizontal scroll to one click 11.27.44 # moda: i connected a 3.8V power supply to the battery connector, but i must have done something wrong, cause the player never started after that :-( 11.28.02 # LinusN: I think I know why I had constant 310mA USB current even when the CPU is boosting and/or light switches on/off. According to the LX2201 datasheet USB_I_in_max is 1211/RUS(3900ohm) => 310mA. And the LX2201 regulates the charging current so, that charging current+mainunit curreny is not greater than 310mA. If unit needs more => it charges less. 11.28.03 # :( 11.29.02 # Rob2222: but what about the 540mA? 11.29.03 # hrm 11.29.05 Join Matze [0] (i=Miranda@p5484D3D0.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.29.26 # ive got some screen dumps to show you the problem im having trouble with, im just uploading them atm. 11.30.10 # here: http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/6703/dump4001021324550oz.png and here: http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/9575/dump4001021324514lt.png 11.30.23 # Yeah, thats the 2nd thing. If I got the datasheet right, the LX2201 cant make that. If the unit draws 550mA he will disable charging but he cant make something on that point, that the unit draws so much. 11.30.45 # there is supposed to be a play button in the middle, on the background it is greyed out, and the actual play button is drawn when playing 11.31.22 # moda: haha.. looks nice 11.31.30 # moda: ok, so you don't always display an image? 11.31.34 # So theoretical in USB charging mode WE must make sure that the disc doesnt spin. AND as less power the unit consumes in USB charging => so faster the battery charges. cause 310mA = unit current + battery charge current 11.31.45 # no, its always displaying an image 11.32.23 # here is the background picture: http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bg3or.png 11.33.07 # Rob2222: could it be that the USB chip draws power directly from the USB 5V? 11.33.49 # so when we activate USB mode the current draw would be 310mA+USB chip current draw? 11.34.05 # LinusN: Can be, I dont know. I checked the Iriver USB-Connect current. With charging ints the same 310mA and without charging its 40mA. 11.34.34 # ATM I have no idas how to check this. 11.34.42 # -idas+idea 11.35.12 # LinusN: BTW, RB USB charging wasnt woking for lostlogic. 11.35.33 # Then he booted iriver. SET usb charging enable at iriver 11.35.45 # connected/disconnected usb in iriver 11.35.49 # shut off the unit 11.35.57 # => USB charging wors in RB. 11.36.08 # I checked that, for mine player ist the same 11.36.10 # moda: i don't understand, what is supposed to be displayed where the icons are? 11.36.11 Nick Paprica[sleep] is now known as Paprica (n=Paprica@85-250-57-45.bb.netvision.net.il) 11.36.24 # RB usb charging only works when enabled in iriver!! 11.36.28 # moda: is the "active" one supposed to be blue? 11.36.34 # very interesting imho 11.36.50 # Rob2222: yes 11.36.58 # amiconn: what's your mailbox? I want to send you some work about changing horizontal scroll to one click 11.37.12 # when im fast forwarding, all that should be showing is the fastforward button, ontop of the background image, but instead, im getting a see thru patch instead of the background 11.38.04 # same with rewinding 11.38.23 # One more interesting thing was, the state of usb chargung enables doesnt change when you only set the option in iriver. You had to set it AND connect usb in iriver. Cause of that i thought the LX2201 usb charging line is maybe connected anywhere to the PCF. 11.39.37 # LinusN: As much as I like USB charging with a fully working RB, it can be that the unit draws more than 500mA. Even if its not much over. 11.40.33 # here is what it looks like when its playing like normal: http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/3154/dump4001021336553sf.png 11.40.36 # it's likely to be a pcf gpio, but i can't trace it 11.40.54 # and paused 11.40.55 # http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/4641/dump4001021337008yb.png 11.41.19 # hrm 11.41.34 # moda: so when does it display the ugly blocks? 11.41.48 # yea, instead of the background image 11.41.55 # when im fastforwarding and rewinding 11.42.02 # LinusN: It should be possible to read the PCF registers, maybe thats enought to find it. 11.42.44 # perhaps 11.43.25 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@88.134.20.76) 11.43.32 # moda: i think i know what it is 11.43.33 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 11.43.45 Quit linuxstb (Nick collision from services.) 11.43.48 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 11.44.34 # moda: the %mp tag is designed for having the icons in the same place on the screen 11.44.58 # yea? 11.45.06 # so whats the alternative? 11.45.58 # create bitmaps consisting of all three icons 11.46.14 # ah, ok, got it 11.46.37 # moda: that wps is *good-looking* 11.46.57 # yea, im just trying to get rid of this bug before i go any furthur 11.48.34 # Is WPS loading as slow on the h3x0 as it is on the h1x0? 11.48.42 Join actionshrimp [0] (i=nn@dhcp-163-1-214-233.seh.ox.ac.uk) 11.50.00 # transparent colour = FF00FF? 11.50.15 Quit uwe___ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.51.47 # Bger: Are you there? 11.51.57 Join ghode|afk [0] (n=garudin@host-84-9-105-221.bulldogdsl.com) 11.51.57 # moda: yes 11.51.57 Quit lamed ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 11.52.52 # ok sweet 11.53.22 Join charun [0] (n=ca489466@labb.contactor.se) 11.54.39 Quit charun (Client Quit) 11.55.51 Quit Matze ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 11.56.01 Join Matze [0] (i=Miranda@p5484D3D0.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.56.27 Join krurst [0] (n=ca489466@labb.contactor.se) 11.59.37 # wtf: [20:59] -NickServ- The nickname [Moda] is already registered 11.59.44 # cant register my nick 11.59.48 Nick moda is now known as moda` (i=modafrom@CPE-138-130-215-232.qld.bigpond.net.au) 12.00.10 # nevermind 12.00.20 # try oz-moda ;) 12.00.41 # Does anyone else have a hard time entering text in on the H3xx? 12.00.43 # or mmmm-moda-i-am 12.01.07 # yes, text imput sucks 12.01.16 # ok 12.01.24 # someone needs to implement rockwords input into normal rockbox 12.01.48 # i like the current text input method 12.01.51 # I'd be happy if it just didn't lag my key presses 12.01.53 # morse code is handy 12.03.48 # also, how do I delete in the current input? 12.04.25 # krurst: rec, methinks 12.05.26 # And here's me thinking rec never did anything :( 12.05.29 Join spazzium_ [0] (n=nospam@vpn-client-416.itap.purdue.edu) 12.06.55 Join San||Away [0] (n=test@212.2.168.80) 12.08.20 # lets try that again, sam 12.09.35 # oh dear 12.09.52 # and now i have a pink background 12.10.02 # i think i got the wrong colour. hrm 12.10.29 # Thanks for your help. Bye 12.10.38 Part krurst 12.10.39 # nope, its 255-0-255 12.10.41 # OMFG 12.10.45 # why is it wrong 12.11.02 Join CrookedRain [0] (i=crookdra@SY-16-147.resnet.ucsb.edu) 12.11.21 # moda`: Are you running the CVS Rockbox or the "H300 optimised" ? 12.11.30 # optimized :D 12.11.33 # kkk 12.11.49 # ? 12.12.22 # cant have transparent layers :( 12.12.45 # so i have a background, and for the image with all 3 icons, the background is transparent, and it just shows as pink 12.12.46 # hrm 12.12.53 Quit spazzium (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.12.54 Quit Thus0 (Remote closed the connection) 12.13.23 Join Thus0 [0] (n=Thus0@124.111.102-84.rev.gaoland.net) 12.15.35 # It can't solve now? 12.15.37 # and now, i get this: http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/3216/dump4001021412515sq.png 12.15.43 # probably not jungti1234 12.15.51 # hmm 12.16.42 # haha http://cafefiles.naver.net/data16/2006/1/25/254/03.jpg 12.16.55 # I'm solving it. 12.18.27 # moda 12.18.41 # This looks like much better. http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/4641/dump4001021337008yb.png 12.19.09 # like -> nice 12.19.48 # guys, good GUI ICQ client for linux ? 12.20.31 Quit cismo (Remote closed the connection) 12.21.51 # yea, thats the point, to look nice 12.22.11 # moda 12.22.23 # yea 12.22.34 # um.. 12.22.38 # wait 12.24.03 # Sweet jungti1234 12.24.15 # :D 12.24.21 # but take off that windows logo pls ;) 12.24.36 # heh 12.24.39 # thats my wps muesli__ 12.24.53 # It is WPS that moda makes. 12.24.55 # hahaha 12.25.16 Quit Matze ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 12.25.24 Join Matze [0] (i=Miranda@p5484D3D0.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.26.14 # moda = SubX. http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=36074 12.26.43 # moda`: http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/2767/dump4001031923241vz.png 12.27.13 # made the background transparent? 12.27.14 # I changed it. 12.27.17 # no.. 12.27.22 # hey.. 12.27.23 # how? 12.27.35 # It doesn't support. 12.28.17 # hrm 12.28.18 Quit midkay (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.29.04 Quit San||Away (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.29.10 # moda`: LinusN speak to me 'It's no support plan'. 12.29.10 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@c-24-16-191-240.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 12.29.35 # ahh 12.30.53 Quit crwl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.31.35 # moda`, I want it too... 12.32.16 # amiconn: what do you think about having 255,0,255 as a transparent color, and optimize with mask bitmaps internally? 12.32.45 Join spazzium [0] (n=nospam@12-208-105-223.client.insightBB.com) 12.34.09 # LinusN: Do you mean have 255,0,255 in external .bmp files, and then either the bmp loader (for wps bitmaps), or bmp2rb (for internal bitmaps) would create the mask? 12.34.30 # yup 12.37.01 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m53.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 12.38.06 # gah, why is this wps stuff so annoying 12.38.20 # now, i have pink: http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/3216/dump4001021412515sq.png omfg 12.38.28 # why wont it just work. hrm 12.38.47 # hahaha.. 12.39.07 # It's serious. :D 12.40.00 # why is it doing this to me? 12.40.42 # ah? 12.40.54 Join DJDD__ [0] (n=DJDD@58.164.117.61) 12.41.00 # why wont it just be transparent, like its supposed to be 12.41.01 Quit spazzium_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.41.26 # hm 12.43.18 # Slasheri: faster boot? 12.43.26 # preglow: yes, ~1s faster at least 12.43.37 # ooh, splendid 12.43.53 # and when we optimize the wps loading in a way or another, the boot would be _many_ seconds faster 12.43.55 # have any tagcache time this weekend? 12.44.04 # maybe 12.44.19 # at least i might have today evening :) 12.44.34 # moda`, please answer. :P 12.44.56 # sorry, been away 12.45.14 # shouldn't set_cpu_frequency() and cpu_boost() be empty macros on targets without support for them? 12.45.32 # looking forward to see tag cache 12.45.39 # don't know if i'll use it myself, but it'll sure be nifty 12.45.39 # would save a few #ifdef HAVE_ADJUSTABLE_CPU_FREQ 12.45.49 # B4gder: agree 12.46.00 # That doesn't work in the plugin api though. 12.46.06 # nope 12.46.35 # Bagder: yep, at least cpu_boost should be 12.47.29 Join TCK- [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-166-110.dsl.pipex.com) 12.48.09 # Bagder: yes they are emptu 12.48.19 # but not in the plugin sapi 12.48.22 # api 12.48.36 # since the preprocessor can't translate the "rb->" 12.48.48 # it was Slasheri's recent commit that made me say this 12.49.02 # it uses #ifdef for them 12.49.23 # all internal cpu_boost() calls can be removed 12.49.34 # i mean the #ifdefs can be removed 12.50.48 # how many volume steps can the wps take? 12.51.05 Join crwl [0] (n=crawlie@karu.kekkola.jyu.fi) 12.51.43 # The ipod's don't define HAVE_ADJUSTABLE_CPU_FREQ - so those would be a good test for whoever makes that change. 12.52.23 # LinusN: i did what you said, and i get this: http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/3216/dump4001021412515sq.png heh 12.52.50 # I want too 12.54.26 # thats the wrong pink 12.54.33 # it needs to be 255, 0, 255 12.55.16 # are you sure? 12.55.28 # coz in photoshop it says 255,0,255 12.55.29 # hrm 12.55.35 # will go check again 12.55.52 # The png file contains #ff82ff - 255,130,255 12.55.59 # ah 12.56.10 # hrm 12.56.11 # It's png mistake. 12.56.25 # Maybe. moda` Can you upload your bmp file? 12.56.54 # yea, ok 12.58.50 # i cant find an image host that will keep the original bmp intact, but heres a photobucket: http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a256/modafroman/play1.jpg 12.59.06 Join ST [0] (i=STx@c211-30-249-83.blktn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 12.59.14 # OMFG 12.59.18 # it is the wrong pink 12.59.25 # stupid photoshop 12.59.25 # what? 12.59.29 # nevermind that 12.59.31 # damn 12.59.44 # hey guys, what does the Repeat (A-B) setting do 12.59.48 # I'm going to try it. 13.00.12 # how is it different from the other repeat settings 13.00.34 Join Maxime [0] (n=flemmard@fbx.flemmard.be) 13.00.36 Quit Maxime` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.01.41 # ? 13.02.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.02.24 Quit KN|stiff (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.04.07 # ST it should be the same as iriver's one 13.04.14 # OH MAN 13.04.17 # or very simillar 13.04.19 # this is just so annoying 13.04.29 # -l 13.04.33 Join NightCat [0] (n=pink__ki@garant.metacom.ru) 13.04.57 # moda`: ? 13.05.06 # One question: wich targets (with working RB) have 320x240 LCD??? 13.05.15 # now the whole background disappears when fastforwarding etc 13.05.16 # gah 13.05.44 # now im going to have to have the whole background on each one 13.05.44 # k 13.05.46 # hrm 13.05.52 # mm there is a way to stretch an image? 13.06.50 # NightCat: iPod Video 13.06.50 # NightCat i think there's no such atm... but there are plans for Toshiba GigaBeat ones ... 13.07.20 # iPod Video 320X240? 13.07.23 # huh ??? 13.07.25 # ipod video 320x240 ? 13.07.36 # LinusN, linuxstb: I plan to slightly change the meaning of the stride parameter 13.07.41 # Bger: yeps 13.07.43 # 13.07.43 # 320 x 240 Çȼ¿, 2.5ÀÎÄ¡ QVGA Ä÷¯ µð½ºÇ÷¹ÀÌ°¡ ÀåÂøµÈ iPod°ú ÇÔ²² Çϸé 13.07.43 # ¾ðÁ¦ ¾îµð¼­³ª »çÁø°ú µ¿¿µ»ó (ÃÊ´ç 30ÇÁ·¹ÀÓÀÇ MPEG-4 ¶Ç´Â H.264 Æ÷ ¸Ë) À» °¨»óÇÒ ¼ö ÀÖ½À´Ï´Ù.ÀÌÁ¦ Á¶±×¸¸ È­¸é¿¡ 15ÇÁ·¹ÀÓÀ¸·Î µ¹¾Æ°¡´Â µ¿¿µ»óÀº Àؾî¹ö¸®½Ê½Ã¿À. 13.07.43 DBUG Enqueued KICK jungti1234 13.07.43 # 13.07.47 # wow 13.07.48 # oops 13.07.50 # -_-; 13.07.52 # Bger: what does irivers one do?, i havent used it before 13.07.56 # No current code will be affected by this, except such using the player gfx lib 13.08.38 # NightCat: but none of them have a "working" rockbox if you mean fully functional audio etc 13.08.52 # ST: you mark a start with a key combination ... after that you mark an end (probably with the same key combo) and it starts to repeat the sound from a till b 13.08.54 Quit TCK- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.09.02 # meaning that's a chance to dive in and help! 13.09.13 # :P 13.09.17 # Nope, I mean just a work to port... 13.09.20 # Instead of being the number of fb_data elements, stride will now be the number of pixels to advance 13.09.22 # (C) B4gder 13.09.25 # I have an H300... 13.09.27 # :-) 13.09.43 # And day after day I think that Ipod - better... 13.09.56 # :( 13.10.01 # This ensures portability across different pixel packings 13.10.15 # Bger: ohk, thx 13.11.06 Quit ST () 13.11.16 # Wich price is iPod Video? 13.11.38 # Which? 13.11.52 # 60GB at... 370 USD 13.12.04 # B4gder really ? 13.12.04 # or so 13.12.10 # Video = G5? 13.12.12 # pricerunner says so 13.12.14 # amiconn: Do you mean the width in pixels of the source bitmap? 13.12.18 # NightCat: yes 13.12.27 # http://www.pricerunner.com/sound-and-vision/personal-audio/mp3-players/browse?&search=apple+ipod+video&other_hits=95%3Aipod+video_338%3Aipod+video_72%3Aipod+video_199%3Aipod+video_x%3B%3B%3B16&filter_name=Apple%20IPOD&q=ipod+video&ref=redirect 13.13.07 # linuxstb: Yes 13.13.11 # oh fark 13.13.45 # amiconn: OK, then can we change the name? For a "non-graphics person" like me, stride doesn't mean anything, but "src_width" is obvious. 13.14.13 # im getting HUGE lag 13.14.31 # Fck... 13.14.35 # Sorry... 13.15.08 # 3 month ago I bought H320 for about 300 $... 13.15.29 # And now Video with 320x240 - the same price... 13.15.37 # :'( 13.15.46 # I'll cry all night long... 13.16.01 # NightCat i bought 340 for $500 + shipping one year ago... :) 13.16.16 # haha 13.16.20 # :( :( :( 13.16.22 # i bought a 340 for $700 a year and a half ago. i win 13.16.29 # wahahahahaha 13.16.30 # And the Video also has a TV out capable of resolutions up to 480x480 or 640x360. 640x360 also happens to be a 16:9 ratio with square pixels. 13.16.32 # moda` :D 13.16.44 # of course, i am talking australian dollars :D 13.17.08 # I meand usd... 13.17.12 # me too 13.17.14 # meant 13.17.17 # haha 13.17.24 # ok, i'll say my price in ITL ... 13.17.53 # I'm looking on G5 now... 13.17.56 # He said other word alone. 13.17.59 # It's black... 13.18.00 # Bger: Good luck finding a shop that will accept ITL.... 13.18.09 # itl? 13.18.12 # It's so beauty... 13.18.17 # OTL 13.18.34 # moda`: Italian Lira 13.18.37 # oh 13.18.53 # here hopes its right this time 13.18.55 # http://blogfiles16.naver.net/data1/2004/9/6/239/1-7819.jpg 13.19.03 # *fingers crossed* 13.19.31 # http://blogfiles9.naver.net/data2/2004/9/3/296/5792-910.gif hahaha 13.19.51 # url hour 13.19.51 # YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT WORKS OMFG W00T! 13.19.52 # We have (in Russia) iPod Video 30 GB for 10 838 RUR 13.20.26 # btw, how many stepps can the volume take? 13.20.37 # ive got 10, but it doesnt feel smooth to me :( 13.20.47 # ~ $390 13.21.19 # I WANT IPOD!!! 13.21.26 Quit Rob2222 () 13.21.27 # anyone know? 13.21.33 # moda`: 10 13.21.44 # awww :( 13.21.45 # oh well 13.21.50 # 10 it is 13.22.47 # http://pleer.ru/_8302.html 13.23.36 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB73481.ipt.aol.com) 13.23.39 # here in australia we have drop bears. when you walk below a tree, they fall off and land ontop of you. apparently in russia "The bears drop you" ahahah, sigh. lol 13.23.42 Quit NightCat (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.23.50 Join NightCat [0] (n=pink__ki@garant.metacom.ru) 13.24.14 # NightCat but this is for a 30GB one 13.24.30 # But I have 20GB the same price!!! 13.24.35 # they usually drop on you holding a bottle of alcohol, and speaking in a deap voice, show men how to pick up women 13.24.39 # And small LCD. 13.24.40 # deep* 13.24.45 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.24.45 # NightCat: but you can play ogg ;-) 13.24.56 # yea, ftw Membrillo 13.24.57 # :D 13.25.06 # But I need not that... 13.25.14 # and promote bundy rum :D 13.25.17 # All my Music in MP3... 13.25.25 # lol yeah, thats the one 13.25.27 # having in mind that in bulgaria one ipod color 30GB is about 900BGN ... ~ #530 13.25.31 # $530 ... 13.25.35 # so why the whining? seel the iriver and buy an ipod 13.25.39 # sell 13.26.10 # there are lots of people who want to buy h3x0 players 13.26.11 # I'm already thinking about it :) 13.26.14 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB73481.ipt.aol.com) 13.26.15 # He... 13.26.25 # Yes, more ipod developers please... 13.26.53 # im an ipod developer in training 13.27.05 # :-) 13.27.11 # Is there USB HOST in Ipod video? 13.27.37 # awwww :( i cant find the image that i was going to use 13.28.22 # Yes, but I think Apple's firmware gives you limited (or no) access to. There is a third-party "usb camera adapter" available to connect via usb to digital cameras. 13.28.37 # But the hardware itself is capable of usb host. 13.29.01 # linuxstb are there any docs about this ? 13.29.07 # hehehehehe 13.29.14 # haha 13.29.30 # I like that response 13.29.45 # this usb camera adapter ... i think is pretty much the same as the USB OTG cables ... 13.32.10 Quit gtkspert_laptop () 13.32.21 # I think it's just a simple adapter to allow you to plug a usb cable into the ipod's dock connector. i.e. it just connects pins on a usb socket to pins in the ipod's dock connector. 13.32.30 Part LinusN 13.33.02 # hmz 13.35.27 # hm 13.36.17 Quit Infirit (Remote closed the connection) 13.36.22 # No... No Ipod... (Sorry for Ipod users) iRiver PMP rules :) 13.36.47 # hey 13.37.03 # Iriver PMP perished. 13.37.09 # http://data.yandex.ru/i?ctype=1&path=b1125131855__026.jpg 13.37.38 # It's many bug. 13.37.47 # the Rockbox on PMP project needs people too ;-) 13.38.07 # Iriver doesn't supply PMP firmware. 13.38.18 # Yes, if RB will on PMP i'll buy it immediately :) 13.38.40 # How about Cowon A2? 13.39.24 # I think iRiver has better form. 13.39.32 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-123-111.VIC.netspace.net.au) 13.39.34 # It's like a game pad :) 13.39.43 # .... 13.39.46 # ah 13.39.46 # yes 13.39.51 # And it's good for RB and game developing :) 13.39.52 # agree 13.39.57 # :) 13.40.43 # But Cowon A2 is not very bad too:) 13.40.53 # hehe.. 13.41.36 # B4gder, How do you think about iriver PMP? 13.41.48 # Where can I get a big bag with money? 13.42.04 # jungti1234: well, it uses one of those undocumented TI things 13.42.12 # which is bad for rockbox porting 13.42.20 # TM270 13.42.27 # DM270 rather 13.42.34 # arm7 13.42.41 # B4gder: Somewhen we will find the info :) 13.42.55 # yes.. :) 13.43.08 # sure, you can always dissassemble 13.43.22 # optimists ... :) 13.43.36 # Rockbox must support video for H300 before. 13.43.49 # jungti1234: don't let us stop you 13.44.02 # um? 13.44.03 # jungti1234: What audio format do H300 videos use? mp3? 13.44.12 # If RB will support video on H300 it'll be great... 13.44.13 # avi 13.44.16 # yep 13.44.17 # 128 kbps 13.44.23 # ah 13.44.26 # mp3 128 13.44.32 # hrm, im stuck 13.44.45 # And XVid for video... 13.44.48 # i have no idea what to do now :\ 13.44.56 # up to 500kbs for video ... 13.44.59 # mp3 128 cbr 13.45.01 # Do a video support for us :) 13.45.09 # as in, for my wps 13.45.12 # but above 430-450 it starts skipping 13.45.23 # ? 13.45.36 # It supports 100000. 13.45.53 # I tested it. 13.45.56 # jungti1234 we are talking about H300 13.46.02 # me too 13.46.06 # Bger: How do you think will it support (with RB) better video? 13.46.25 # not for a very, very long time 13.46.28 # stop thinking about video 13.46.37 # Why? 13.46.44 # We want video... 13.46.48 # hehe 13.46.57 # NightCat: Buy a TV 13.47.01 # wahahaahaha 13.47.03 # NightCat because from a 120MHz we use about 40MHz only for 128kbps mp3 13.47.12 # NightCat: what i'm saying is it's going to take a very long time 13.47.17 # it's not going to happen tomorrow 13.47.27 # so it's no use speculating yet 13.47.28 # Ye... I know :( 13.47.58 # Bger: It was no limitation. 13.48.42 # em... Just some dreams... 13.48.45 # NightCat and worse ... mirak tried xvid (mpeg4) and mpeg2 ... 220x176 (native resolution) *only video* and got about 2fps ... 13.48.55 # 2fps? oh... 13.49.01 # well 13.49.06 # Bger: Where? 13.49.09 # Bger: I thought that was quite promising - considering he did absolutely no optimisation. 13.49.11 # the x5 plays xvid at 13fps 13.49.30 # B4gder but on a way smaller lcd 13.49.36 # yes 13.49.39 # but still 13.49.52 # iriver's h300 fw plays 10fpt 13.49.54 # 10fps 13.50.01 # No, it's not a solution... 13.50.01 # given more efforts and skill, we should be able to do xvid at least playable 13.50.28 # Wich àçû for ex. on Video (Ipod)? 13.50.28 # and these 10fps are with 128kbps mp3 13.50.34 # Can Rockbox rise more than 10 fps? 13.50.34 # fps 13.50.34 # àçû 13.50.51 # NightCat ipod video uses a DSP for video decoding ... 13.50.54 # NightCat: 30fps I think. 13.50.55 # Is it possible by hardware? 13.51.06 # Ôðá yes. 13.51.15 # linuxstb i suppose it's not documented ? ;) 13.51.29 # No, the marketing department are OK for docs :) 13.51.38 # And iRiver PMP do so too... 13.51.50 # maybe i'm really dumb, but i can't understand these NDAs ... 13.51.55 # the PMP also uses a DSP core 13.52.02 # hm.. 13.52.40 # the PMP is in fact using the "little brother" version of the chip Nueros is gonna use in their upcoming models 13.52.42 # what do they gain with them ? 13.52.49 # I was thinking some days ago: why there are no PDAs with HDD inside? 13.53.15 # there is 13.53.19 # Bger: we don't know, they don't tell thay without an NDA ;-) 13.53.21 # the lifedrive is 4gh 13.53.23 # that 13.53.24 # is suse linux ok as linux to start with? 13.53.40 # Rob2222: I assume it is 13.53.56 # btw, what fps do u reckon rb will be able to play once video has been worked on? 13.54.02 # B4gder apart from the funny part, i really don't get it ... 13.54.09 # Rob2222: I liked it when I used it. But that was a few years ago. 13.54.36 # Bger: I honestly can't think of many actual reasons either, other than some weird "protect your intelecutal property" paranoia 13.54.41 # moda`: I would expect that (at best) Rockbox could do the same as the official firmware. 13.55.00 # B4gder this is bullsh.t ... 13.55.00 # ok, im just installing it in a virtual machine 13.55.00 # sure it can 13.55.15 # just don't underestimate the amount of customisation we will have to do to the decoder to make it run that fast 13.55.24 # Wich cvs command to update all files without merge but with update? 13.55.34 # Bger: and there's a lack of customer's who object by putting their money elsewhere 13.55.45 # i i hope for atleast 15fps :D 13.55.54 # ... 13.55.57 # haha 13.55.58 # well 13.56.02 # moda` hope first for 10fps ... 13.56.03 # find some optimisaton gods 13.56.06 # without sound :) 13.56.10 # i can pretty much guarantee you i wont be working much on video 13.56.23 # hahaha 13.56.34 # well, there is the guy who optimized rockboy 13.56.36 # ... 13.56.36 # preglow u don't wanna become a optimisation god ? ;) 13.56.40 # preglow: I'm sure you'll get tempted by the dark side... 13.56.56 # -a+an 13.57.03 # ? 13.57.07 # strong u must be 13.57.08 # .. 13.57.35 # The command wich will update all changed files? 13.57.37 # well 13.57.50 # maybe we can overclock our H300's .. ^^ :p 13.58.07 # Haha :) 13.58.08 # Rob2222 in fact it's underclocked now 13.58.11 # I just reached 500MHz with watercooling. 13.58.17 # NightCat: I don't understand what you want to do with cvs. What do you mean "without merge but with update"? 13.58.25 # Bger: Why? 13.58.40 # Rob2222 regarding to the specs, the chip can go upto 140MHz 13.58.50 # I mean that cvs download files wich I change... 13.58.56 # but then its not *cold*fire any more ... 13.59.02 # lol ok 13.59.19 # according ... 13.59.38 # Cool, i want a pocket heater. 13.59.42 # it's a bad day for my poor english skills 13.59.52 # hehe 14.00.21 # NightCat: So do you want to keep your changes, or have your changes replaced by what is in CVS? 14.00.24 # hrm, i just killed half my wps. hrm 14.00.52 # Bger: No problem, simply speak german. :) 14.01.12 # moda`: :O 14.01.17 # Rob2222 i don't speak that at all ... 14.01.19 # linuxstb: The second. 14.01.21 # fixed it, kinda 14.01.32 # problem is now i have a flickering bmp :9 14.01.34 # NightCat then just remove your files 14.01.35 # NightCat: I just normally delete any files I have changed. 14.01.46 # linuxstb: I just want not that cvs download ALL files... 14.01.48 # and it will put the cvs version there 14.02.04 # NightCat then just be more specific 14.02.09 # linuxstb: :) I forgot some of them ... 14.02.36 # how can i fix flickering bmps? 14.02.40 # NightCat look for the lines starting with "M" while updating 14.02.41 # If you just type "cvs update", then it will mark the files you have changed with an "M". You can then delete those files and run cvs update again. 14.03.02 # as usual, linuxstb explained it better ;) 14.03.07 # But slower.... 14.03.18 # or you patch away the local changes first: cvs diff | patch -p0 -R 14.03.24 # linuxstb: Ok, thanks again and again :) 14.03.24 # and then update 14.03.45 # OK, B4gder wins. 14.03.53 # :) ;) 14.04.06 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 14.04.06 # * B4gder cheers 14.04.11 # People, all of you ROCKs :) 14.04.42 # btw, it's written Rockbox ........ not ROCKbox... 14.04.47 # someone should note this ... 14.05.11 # http://misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=35852 14.05.14 # crzy topic 14.05.17 # crazy* 14.05.49 # um? 14.05.55 # 15 new wps in 4 days 14.06.03 # 24 bit wps 14.06.06 # wow rockamp 14.06.16 # i like the 2nd one 14.06.28 # Paprica: one coming from me soon 14.06.29 # I like how they call them 24bit wps when the lcd is 16bit ;-) 14.06.43 # hihi 14.06.48 # anyone know how to fix this problem: http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/838/dump4001021603097lv.png ?? 14.06.51 # fools :) 14.06.52 # the bitmaps are 24 bit 14.06.58 # yes 14.07.01 # but not when shown 14.07.17 # What problem? 14.07.42 # on the right hand side, its supposed to be the same as the left hand side up the top 14.07.48 # some people really are doing cool stuff with colour wpses 14.07.54 # There is an colored WPS and nobody said it to me???!!! 14.08.01 # >:-/ 14.08.03 # lol 14.08.12 # Ar... Ar... 14.08.30 # How to do this, HOW? 14.08.36 # I have to know :) 14.08.38 # anyone help me? 14.09.38 # look at misticriver 14.10.40 # I just jokeing :)\ 14.10.49 # Paprica: Did you see my Brickmania CVS commit this morning? 14.11.14 # http://misticriver.net/attachment.php?s=2dac47e179d658895998e9b0d1ce10f8&attachmentid=3537&d=1138091692 14.11.20 # Look at this :) 14.11.37 Quit Matze (Nick collision from services.) 14.11.40 # I know 14.11.56 # I know already!!!! 14.11.57 # yep 14.12.00 # and play it 14.12.05 # and it works fine 14.12.06 # =] 14.12.28 # anyone? help fix wps bmp flashing? 14.12.36 # Paprica: Good. Is the cpu_boost() definitely needed? Can you test how it works now without it? 14.12.43 # moda`: You help me. :( 14.12.50 # mm 14.12.57 # moda`: I think we have no flashing... 14.13.11 # i will try in a while 14.13.14 # anyone know how to fix this problem: http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/838/dump4001021603097lv.png ?? 14.13.27 # theres a problem in that 14.14.04 # Was the image snapped? 14.14.13 # yea, screendump 14.14.29 # or, i dont understand question 14.14.36 # Check source. 14.14.38 Quit Membrillo () 14.18.16 # mm 14.18.17 Quit NightCat (Remote closed the connection) 14.18.18 # iriver: Init audio on background. 14.18.25 # what it does? 14.20.23 # Paprica: I think it speeds up the boot-time by creating a background thread to initialise the audio. 14.20.40 # ah ok 14.23.32 # linuxstb, it works perfectly without the boost 14.23.49 # i thought that i play with the boost 14.23.50 # @@ 14.24.18 # What about if you have music playing at the same time? 14.24.26 # mm 14.24.28 # second 14.25.34 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp13-adsl-208.ath.forthnet.gr) 14.25.53 Join Skydemon [0] (n=udo@p50874943.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.26.26 # mm 14.26.30 # work fine too 14.31.36 # * B4gder runs for zero-scoring 14.33.32 # fixed the X5 sim warnings? 14.35.41 # B4gder: Bejewelled would probably work on the X5 - using the iriver's mono bitmaps for now. 14.35.53 # * linuxstb accuses B4gder of a cheap fix :) 14.36.02 # hehe :) 14.38.37 # still having problems with my wps 14.38.43 # http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/838/dump4001021603097lv.png 14.38.46 # * B4gder takes shortcuts to score 14.39.05 # http://cafefiles.naver.net/data16/2006/1/27/170/IMG_0532%286848%29.jpg 14.39.15 # and the sdl sim is *pain* to run over my wlan/ssh/x11 at work 14.39.34 # and, my freaking battery bar wont work :( 14.39.56 # Paprica: congrates for first commit ;) 14.40.05 # 10q =] 14.40.16 # Paprica: Any more games planned? 14.40.16 # wooo 14.40.30 # yes indeed :) 14.40.30 # mm dont know =] 14.40.34 # some ideas? 14.40.47 # Pacman 14.40.51 # ah 14.40.54 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 14.40.54 # good idea 14.40.56 # hihi 14.41.08 # * linuxstb wants a Pacman arcade machine emulator 14.41.16 # :) 14.41.17 # (in Rockbox) 14.41.24 Join webguest51 [0] (n=aafc483d@labb.contactor.se) 14.41.27 # OMFG PACMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FTW! 14.41.35 # so do pacman 14.41.40 # best idea eva 14.41.46 # ehem 14.41.54 # there's this asteroids in the patch tracker too... 14.41.54 Quit webguest51 (Client Quit) 14.42.19 # http://blogfiles11.naver.net/data5/2004/10/27/138/sdfsd-joun9817.jpg 14.42.48 # IIUC, the pacman arcade machine uses sprites for the maze and characters - so it would be possible to nicely resize it to all the Rockbox LCD sizes. Someone has even done this: http://pacifi3d.retrogames.com/pacifi3d/index.html 14.42.55 # I have pacman's some source. 14.43.10 # :( 14.43.16 # stupid battery bar 14.43.41 # wasn't San working on pacman? 14.43.49 # already I mean 14.44.27 Join KN|stiff [0] (n=phhome@Fd42b.f.strato-dslnet.de) 14.45.16 # how can I see the expected build? 14.45.31 # click on the time next to it? 14.45.43 # yup that did it 14.46.15 # or subscribe to cvs commit mailing 14.46.38 # mail at each commit 14.47.07 # I prefer to see them on the site. Too many commits will populate my mail... 14.47.19 # poluate 14.47.21 # hehe :) 14.47.31 # ;) 14.50.41 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-166-110.dsl.pipex.com) 14.51.22 # http://javaboutique.internet.com/PacMan/source.html 14.51.50 # http://blog.naver.com/sdmer?Redirect=Log&logNo=100021134725 (korean) 14.52.10 # are there any reasonable explanations to why my usb mouse won't work in linux while connected through a usb-splitter hub (which actually works flawlessly when connecting a powered disk and a wifi-stick)? 14.52.24 # FKING YES! 14.52.35 # things are actually working 14.53.07 # btw, anyone point me in the direction of a c video player? 14.53.11 # dwihno: are you using the hid driver, usbmouse, or a ps/2 emulation mode provided by the bios? 14.53.46 # ashridah: think it's hid, I access it via /dev/input/mouse0 14.54.10 # try /dev/input/mice ? 14.54.28 # That also works (but not when I connect it through the hub) 14.54.34 # is the mouse being detected by usbview when it's plugged in? 14.54.54 # I check the /proc/bus/usb/devices and see an identical entry 14.55.07 # except different usb id's (hub causing that) 14.55.14 # * ashridah nods 14.55.38 # Can there be power issues? 14.55.52 Quit darkless (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.55.53 # for a mouse? I doubt it. 14.56.12 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48.adsl.vby.tiscali.dk) 14.56.15 # Damn, now I installed 2h SUSE in a Virtual PC and now it doesnt even start... grr 14.57.14 # hmph 14.57.31 # ashridah: Then I don't know what can be wrong... Everything else USB works 14.58.19 # weird. 14.58.53 Join DocterD [0] (n=DocterD@dslb-084-059-077-156.pools.arcor-ip.net) 14.59.47 # someone find me a c based video player! 14.59.56 # there are tons of them 15.00.54 # a good one 15.00.57 Quit DJDD__ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 15.01.05 # something that is port-able 15.02.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.03.28 Join NightCat [0] (n=pink__ki@garant.metacom.ru) 15.05.30 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 15.07.17 # if you're talking for rockbox, just forget it 15.07.21 # ooga booga! 15.07.27 # just get a decoder library and find some way to integrate video playback 15.07.48 # So fast? 15.08.33 # somebody here running the optimized build? 15.08.44 # I want to try... 15.08.52 # (optimized build) 15.09.04 # me 15.09.07 # muesli__, what do you need? 15.09.07 # Reading info around it now... 15.09.15 # http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=34725&page=41 15.09.17 # Ive installes suse10 on a virtual pc and at first start im getting "Failed to start the X server" anyone a idea how to fix this? 15.09.19 # Paprica: Are you here? 15.09.19 # see my post :o 15.09.27 # yep 15.10.10 # Paprica: Do you need some H300 game to your PLUGbox project? 15.10.26 # hm 15.10.44 # if you have, why dont you upload them to the patch traker? 15.11.07 # Paprica: I done an H300 based minesweeper... 15.11.26 # with colors and other... 15.11.28 # screendump? 15.11.35 # Yes, minute... 15.11.57 # http://h300.narod.ru/rockbox/rb_on_my_h320/ 15.12.12 # At the buttom... 15.12.27 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-131-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) 15.12.28 # Second plugin... 15.12.46 # Paprica: now you've got CVS acces, is PLUGbox obsolete? :) 15.12.57 # no 15.12.58 # hehe NightCat likes black color 15.13.09 # Yep :) 15.13.24 # plugbox stay a place where the plugins only for h300 15.13.40 # isn't is the Rockbox way 15.13.50 # s/is/in 15.13.56 # Paprica: What your wors will? 15.14.11 # wors=word... 15.14.36 # sec 15.15.03 # the site is very slow 15.15.04 # @@ 15.15.13 # Ye, I know... 15.15.25 # My bad... 15.15.25 Quit NightCat (Remote closed the connection) 15.15.31 # your cat needs to be pimped ;) 15.16.14 # hm 15.17.00 # * Moos is wondering why people make effort to maintain a parallel project instead of contributing to Rockbox itself :) 15.17.20 DBUG Enqueued KICK moda` 15.17.20 # 14Bandwidth: 04(Current Downstream: 1223.61kb/s 15¤ Current Upstream: 21.73kb/s04) 15.17.22 # woot 15.17.33 Join elinenbe [0] (i=elinenbe@207-237-225-224.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 15.17.45 # oops 15.17.52 # very slow speed 15.19.56 Join NightCat [0] (n=pink__ki@trans100.chercom.ru) 15.20.07 # NightCat your cat needs to be pimped ;) 15.20.10 # Fu*king firewall... 15.20.20 # I was disconnected... 15.20.29 # Moos: I don't see that big a problem with it - Rockbox has always had unofficial builds (remember the builds supporting the iriver remote?). if people extend Rockbox, then they have to use the GPL, which means we can take their code and commit it to Rockbox CVS even if they don't want us to :) 15.22.10 # If someone told something for me when I was dicsconnected, please retype it... 15.23.07 # linuxstb: hehe you're right, but they could make job easier e.g making plugins valiable for all Rb devices..., and now Paprica have CVS access 15.23.41 # Of course. We will assimilate them one by one.... 15.23.48 # a bit of the point is that they don't want to make plugins available for all devices 15.24.06 # You're right... 15.24.16 # mmm why not? 15.24.17 # =\ 15.24.21 # well, you tell me 15.24.23 # I predict that their build won't live for a long time 15.24.31 # hehe :) 15.24.34 # i'm just commenting on what i see 15.24.40 # and i don't see any plugins for anything but h3x0 15.24.46 # just because when we do major changes, things go painful 15.25.00 # i dont have a problem to port the plugins to other devices 15.25.06 # Yes, ideally people should write for all targets. But I also think we should accept single-target plugins as long as there is an obvious desire amongst other devs to port it to their own players - I think this is the situation with Brickmania. 15.25.19 # I agree with that 15.25.34 # here too 15.25.37 # a plugin for one target is better than no plugin 15.25.41 # linuxstb: And I. 15.26.07 # linuxstb: but imagine if all dev thought in that way 15.26.08 # linuxstb: And then someone can update it for other platforms... 15.28.00 # For ex. now I want a colored WPS... 15.28.09 # linuxstb: Rb would not be this that it is if everyone had proceeded as that 15.28.13 # Then I have 2 choises... 15.28.24 # Wait... 15.28.27 # no 15.28.33 # the choice is to *fix* 15.28.35 # Or download optimised RB... 15.28.53 # B4gder: What you mean? 15.29.00 # anyone help? 15.29.03 # fix what? 15.29.08 # http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/838/dump4001021603097lv.png 15.29.10 # you always have the choice to fix 15.29.11 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ipa145.1.tellas.gr) 15.29.19 # fix color wps for inclusion 15.29.35 # then it'll go into CVS 15.29.48 # But I have not enoth free time and experience... 15.29.53 # hmm.. 15.29.57 # that's one of the downsides with half-baked alternatives 15.30.06 # that people stay with that 15.30.10 # I want, really, but I can't... 15.30.16 # Poor moda` .... 15.30.43 # Anyone doesn't have answer. 15.30.52 # Moos: That's true - but as B4gder said, a plugin for one target is better than no plugin. We obviously want to encourage all devs to write for all targets. 15.31.02 # Actually I can't understand - what the problem ;) 15.31.22 # there's a problem? 15.31.22 Join DJDD__ [0] (n=DJDD@58.164.117.61) 15.31.37 # linuxstb: indeed 15.31.52 # I'm about moda's problem... 15.32.21 # There is a picture, but what the problem?.. 15.32.31 Quit DocterD ("Leaving") 15.32.35 # btw, what color patch is that "optmized" build using for color wps? 15.32.56 # 1380389 ? 15.33.14 # ? 15.33.19 # Mothers Intervening in the Compiling or Redistribution of Open-Source SOFTware (MICROSOFT) 15.33.26 # hahaha 15.33.51 # joke? 15.33.55 # yep 15.33.59 # hehe 15.34.04 # B4gder: There was a short patch (3 lines) on misticriver only (I think) that added transparency support to lcd_bitmap_part() by not drawing pixels with colour #ff00ff 15.34.41 # I think that's the one in the "optimised" h300 build. 15.34.55 # and Linus' 24bit bpm loader then I presume? 15.34.58 # bmp 15.35.03 # Yes, I think so. 15.35.54 # linuxstb: it's good to here you're "coddling" this "optimised build" thing :) 15.36.06 # And I think there is also Paprica's patch to give a height and left/right margins to the progress bar, and another one to add fg/bg colour tags to the wps. 15.36.10 # Moos: I just spend too long here.... 15.36.12 Quit TCK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.36.24 # :-) 15.36.47 # and another one to add fg/bg colour tags to the wps. 15.36.49 # this not mine 15.36.52 # All here: http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=35654 15.37.12 # and the progress bar patch is in the patch tracker 15.37.56 # all green 15.38.06 # What green? 15.38.08 # yes score at O 15.40.18 # Why are so many people here (on #rockbox)? Is they talking about something sometimes? 15.40.26 Quit Kohlrabi ("Fast alle Menschen sind Regenwürmer") 15.40.36 # Or they all are spys? 15.40.36 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-131-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) 15.40.49 # :) 15.41.09 # hehe, ask them 15.41.10 # it's the entire iriver development team 15.41.26 # And I'm in :) 15.41.33 # Cool :) 15.41.56 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.42.38 # with all those futur suported devices+irivers... lot of new people discovering Rockbox every day ;) 15.43.34 # potentialy a lot of developers 15.43.38 # indeed 15.43.39 # (If we put some banners on rockbox.org ;) 15.44.02 # And a lot of pesky users complaining about dBs and button mappings :) 15.44.11 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@88.134.20.76) 15.44.13 # ouch, users... 15.44.19 # hahaha :D 15.44.20 # beh 15.44.25 # i'm tired of people complaining about the db issue 15.44.45 Join zipr [0] (n=cd9924ab@labb.contactor.se) 15.44.47 # yes it seems that subject don't want to closed 15.44.57 # It's about wrong volume? 15.45.14 # dB scaling 15.45.18 # Or I don't understand something? 15.45.34 # Ok, then i'm understand it right :) 15.45.47 # I think we should display the letters "dB" in the status bar though. The complaints are normally about "why does it go from -84 to 0", not "why is it in dBs?". 15.46.06 # Hehe :) 15.46.09 # wont have room for that on archos 15.46.17 # yes at on non-Archos LCDs 15.46.21 # at least 15.46.21 # But that shouldn't stop us doing it on other players. 15.47.02 # Who wants to add db? Rise your hands up :) 15.47.16 # \o/ 15.47.33 # :-) 15.47.45 # I'm interesting, why people so cares why it from -84 to 0... 15.48.06 # It works fine - yes, then what the problem? :) 15.48.32 # they might think it's a cosmetic bug since they have no clue ;) 15.48.42 Nick Xerion_ is now known as Xerion (i=xerion@zorgash.student.utwente.nl) 15.48.58 # I think it's a fair question to ask. Without knowing it's dB, it does look odd at first sight. 15.49.01 # Mmm, I think maybe we need improve an option that users can choose Db or 1-100%? 15.49.14 # i think that's a superfluous option 15.49.19 # most users will be using a graphical wps 15.49.22 # I agree. 15.49.24 # at least that's my guess 15.49.30 # I think those who complain just are whiners 15.49.32 # where the info will be represented graphically anyway 15.50.11 Nick Moos is now known as DrMoos (i=DrMoos@m53.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 15.50.23 # preglow: I use a graphick + numbers together 15.51.12 Quit NightCat () 15.54.48 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.01.15 # Kind of related question: if I set all of the Rockbox settings to 0 dB is that equal to an acutal line out? 16.01.46 # yes 16.03.42 # That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure. Perhaps we should have that in the manual somewhere, as I don't think that many people other than hardcore audiophiles know much about the dB system. 16.04.27 # yeps 16.06.37 # B4gder: I have a suggestion... 16.06.55 # how about split screen playlist viewer/WPS :-) 16.07.15 # years ago I would joke about a gamboy emulator... now there really is one! 16.08.18 # well, I could easily imagine the playlist info getting availble for the wps 16.08.23 # bye 16.08.27 # good night 16.08.34 Quit jungti1234 () 16.09.06 Join webguest82 [0] (n=523ba512@labb.contactor.se) 16.10.27 Quit webguest82 (Client Quit) 16.15.57 Join nyonyai_csipcsi [0] (i=nyonyai_@catv-5665568d.catv.broadband.hu) 16.17.11 Quit zipr ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 16.17.26 # sorry if my question is a little off. can u tell me what is the difference between iriver h340(2004) and h340SE(2005).the second is cheaper a little..???? 16.18.41 # can it be that SE is weaker? 16.19.18 # more likely that the kit is different 16.19.40 # i think SE is without remote or with non-lcd remote 16.20.00 # oo, yes hmm..i will ask..thanx 16.23.55 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@labb.contactor.se) 16.25.43 Quit Skydemon ("bye bye") 16.33.10 Join DangerousDan [0] (n=Miranda@newtpulsifer.campus.luth.se) 16.33.21 Quit tvelocity ("Leaving") 16.34.14 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.35.31 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-154-160-47.bna.bellsouth.net) 16.38.56 # LinusN: :( How the heck do they control the charge modes on that LX2201!? craziness! 16.39.14 # would be fun to find out 16.39.25 # i bet it's simple 16.39.44 # maybe it's time to fire up the disassembler 16.40.03 # Yeah -- the interesting thing (to me) is that it's saved during power off, so it is most likely stored somehow in the backup battery powered PCF50606 16.43.21 # yup 16.47.04 # LinusN: did you end up getting a new h3x0? 16.47.14 # not yet 16.47.26 # any decent leads -- other than ebay? 16.47.35 # I just bought an extra one here... 16.47.38 # i have two leads other than ebay 16.48.24 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 16.48.24 # * linuxstb points LinusN towards the bright lights and shiny white toys in the Apple Store.... 16.48.43 # must....resist....ipod.... 16.48.44 # http://www.warehouse123.com/ProductSearch.php?sType=1&sCat=ALL&sText=iriver 16.48.57 # international version for a decent price... 16.49.17 # dinner! 16.49.20 # i hate ipod:)...can i suggest any feature for rockbox? 16.49.25 # ...here 16.49.40 # preglow: enjoy 16.50.04 # nyonyai_csipcsi: You can suggest here, but if you want anyone to remember, post them here: http://www.rockbox.org/requests.shtml 16.50.18 # is there peak meter control? 16.50.28 # how can i get it smaller than full screen? 16.50.32 # and mind you, a bazillion of features are already requested 16.50.58 # Maybe we should just delete them all and start again... 16.51.08 # bazillion being the official term for "a larger amount than most people can grasp" ;-) 16.51.50 # is menu skinning in the works? 16.51.51 # "Totally 420 requests ( marked as fixed, 416 open and 4 bad)" 16.52.12 # ok, i got:) 16.52.30 Quit DangerousDan ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 16.53.09 # nyonyai_csipcsi: What is your feature request? 16.53.27 # can rockbox make difference between one button pushed down and two? 16.53.38 # if i am clear8 16.53.42 # yes and no ;-) 16.53.44 # Yes, with some restrictions on combinations. 16.54.31 Join DangerousDan [0] (n=Miranda@newtpulsifer.campus.luth.se) 16.54.58 # is there any feature that is useing this?for example faster scrolling when two is pushed? 16.55.06 Quit aegray (Success) 16.55.12 # in file folders, i mean 16.55.36 # I think holding ON whilst moving up/down is a page up/down feature. 16.56.19 # i got email back, about SE, and they said that that's mean second edition :P arrrgh:) 16.56.23 # nyonyai_csipcsi: teh AB repeat feature on most targets also uses it, as do the next dir and previous dir while playing. 16.58.12 # but what if there is many files in one folder?:)okok 16.58.32 # What you need is some kind of wheel device on the front of your player.... 16.59.23 # nono:)just easy way to increase scroll speed 17.00.12 Join aegray [0] (n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com) 17.01.21 Quit B4gder ("time to say moo") 17.02.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.04.44 Quit moda` () 17.07.04 Join uwe___ [0] (n=uwe@dslb-084-056-055-224.pools.arcor-ip.net) 17.09.44 # Hmm, that crossfade thing in MR.. Cutting the previous song is an intended behaviour when track out fader is set to mix mode 17.10.39 # but indeed, that shouldn't be used when manually skipping tracks so that would be a bug 17.13.34 Join t0mas [0] (n=Tomas@unaffiliated/t0mas) 17.13.57 # Slasheri: your recent changes to playback play right into my hands... I mean ... make what I want to do with improving the performance and thread safety of the pcmbuffer easier. 17.14.16 # oh.. 17.15.58 # hmm, i think the boot performance with audio initialization should be now as fast as it can be. Next thing would be to cache the wps files or introduce little modification to boot loader to allow dircache to be loaded from cache file very early 17.16.17 # Instead of using basically a buffer of pcmbufdescs and then a pcmbuffer, I want to use a read linked list and a write linked list for the pcmbufdescs, and when someone requests a buffer, I want to hand them one, instead of just handing them a pointer where to write 17.16.58 # lostlogic: that sounds very good, i have wanted a long time to dump that current pcm buffer structure.. 17.17.28 # then we could easily allocate the pcm buffer dynamically also 17.17.32 # cool, glad you agree, hopefully I'll have a chance to get it working for at least the basic case this weekend... maybe you can help me with the voice mixing and crossfade parts next week sometime 17.17.41 # :) 17.17.43 # yeah 17.20.13 # nyonyai_csipcsi: sorry if my question is a little off. can u tell me what is the difference between iriver h340(2004) and h340SE(2005).the second is cheaper a little..???? <= the SE has less accesoires. (nonlcd remote, ext. batterypack, cradle) 17.21.58 # lostlogic: Have you tried observing PCF registers for USB charge mode? 17.23.05 # Rob2222: nope... I'm mostly moving on to the above mentioned playback stuff :) 17.25.13 # oo, Rob2222, thanx 17.25.17 # :) 17.25.40 Quit nyonyai_csipcsi () 17.27.37 Join NightCat [0] (n=pink__ki@garant.metacom.ru) 17.28.05 # Quicke question: #define PICTURES_FILE PLUGIN_DIR "/nightcat/minesweeperh300_pictures.h" #include PICTURES_FILE 17.28.14 # Why this does not work? 17.28.19 # ah 17.28.25 # is there new line 17.28.33 # Yes 2 lines. 17.28.36 # between .h" and #include 17.28.44 # #define PICTURES_FILE PLUGIN_DIR "/nightcat/minesweeperh300_pictures.h" 17.28.49 # #include PICTURES_FILE 17.28.52 # Like this 17.28.58 # ah 17.29.03 # i don't have idea 17.29.19 # but why don't just write #include ... 17.29.20 Join NicoFR [0] (n=nico404@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 17.29.20 # It wrotes that no such file... 17.29.46 # But there is such file... 17.29.49 # PLUGIN_DIR = "/.rockbox/" 17.29.57 # err 17.29.59 # Always? 17.30.02 # PLUGIN_DIR = "/.rockbox/rocks" 17.30.08 # yep 17.30.14 # or something similar 17.30.36 # Ok i'll try that. 17.30.52 # apps/settings.h:#define PLUGIN_DIR ROCKBOX_DIR"/rocks" 17.31.14 # apps/settings.h:#define ROCKBOX_DIR "/.rockbox" 17.31.47 # :) 17.31.58 # NightCat you should use #include "nightcat/minesweeper...." 17.32.05 # or something like thiw 17.32.08 # this 17.32.10 # but gotta go 17.32.11 # bye 17.32.13 Quit Bger ("[BX] Pretzel Boy uses BitchX. Shouldn't you?") 17.33.22 # NightCat: #includes are not absolute paths, they are relative to the -I included dirs for the compiler 17.33.35 # Now I understand :) 17.33.47 # I'm stupid :) 17.36.57 # NightCat: What are you trying to do? Do you want to use bitmaps in your plugin? 17.37.22 # Yes but without new system :) 17.37.32 # * linuxstb is offended :( 17.37.45 # Why? 17.37.56 # And what it is "offended"? 17.38.42 # I'm only joking - I implemented the new bmp2rb build system. 17.38.51 # But I'm curious why you don't want to use it. 17.39.24 # I try it already, and it works good, but what I think: 17.40.19 # I can put all images into one file.h and send to somebody two files: myprog.c and file.h and that is all.. 17.40.36 Join paugh [0] (n=kickback@2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:8000:0:3e03:6822) 17.41.01 # But with this new system I have to send many bmps... 17.41.19 # zip? 17.42.50 # Yes but still some problems, for ex. I don't know, how to do a patch? 17.43.20 # "cvs diff -u > mypatch.diff" 17.43.47 # And it send images with text to mypatch.diff? 17.43.50 # That won't include the bmp files, so you'll have to zip those up separately. 17.44.03 # But also, to add a plugin, you also need to edit SOURCES. 17.44.16 # Your diff will include the required change to SOURCES. 17.45.05 # Yes, I know, but I need to write one string to SOURCES and putt 2 files for their places. 17.45.47 # It's much more easier, I think... 17.45.59 # Maybe I wrong? 17.46.19 # I'm just trying to select the better way for me... 17.47.19 # If I'll use the configfile RB library in my plugin, settings will be saved somewhere in RB? 17.47.42 Join Philip_0729 [0] (n=Philip_0@user-7642.lns2-c10.dsl.pol.co.uk) 17.48.18 # linuxstb: ? 17.48.36 # Yes - I think you give it a filename, and that file will be saved in .rockbox/rocks/ 17.50.30 # Gm, I just want to understand, what I should to use... 17.50.43 # For config and for images... 17.51.37 # I think, for the images will be better, if they will be uploaded by plugin when it is executed. 17.51.49 # From bmps. 17.51.55 # For images, I think you should use the bmp system - it makes it much easier for others to use your plugin on other players. 17.52.29 Quit Kohlrabi ("Fast alle Menschen sind Regenwürmer") 17.52.34 # Hm... 17.52.38 # Loading the images at runtime is a bad idea - it means that your plugin will have to wake up the disk to access the images. It also adds to the number of files in .rockbox - we don't want too many files there. 17.52.38 # Ok. 17.53.05 # It will also make your plugin run more slowly. 17.53.12 # (or start more slowly) 17.53.13 # Yes 17.53.37 # For the config, you can use configfile, and create a "minesweeper.cfg" file. 17.54.07 # Yes, but I can't understand C struct system yet... :) 17.54.27 # And without it, I can't use this function :) 17.54.47 # Try and look at the other plugins that use it - brickmania, solitaire and euroconverter. I've never used it myself. 17.55.02 # :) 17.55.21 # And also look at configlib.c and configlib.h themselves - they are in the apps/plugins/lib/ directory. 17.56.36 # You know I think that will be better that in all the plugins we can controll the playing... Am... 17.56.44 # My bad English. 17.57.32 # I mean, if I play in BrickMania for ex. sometimes I want to change the song or volume but I can't without plugin exiting... 17.57.36 # I agree - I once had an idea to implement a "playback menu" in every plugin. Which would give you simple access to volume control, pause, play, skip etc. 17.57.40 # NightCat: yeah, I've thought of that as well 17.57.41 # haha 17.58.07 # I bet we could add it to the plugin lib so that plugins could pick a button mapping to access playback if they wanted to 17.58.07 # People, we all together! :) 17.58.30 # Yes just map one button. 17.58.52 # Somethink like pause. 18.00.18 # Ok, who wants to do this? 18.00.33 # ;) 18.02.06 # maybe for devices with remote that could be "easier", use remote for playback... 18.02.28 # i was thinking the same as DrMoos 18.02.58 # But can we control remote buttons without main? 18.03.37 # ? 18.03.56 # what do you mean? 18.04.04 # linuxstb, lostlogic: Where are you? :) 18.04.30 # * DrMoos is going back to work ;) 18.04.41 # Some time ago somebody said that they controlled together with main unit... 18.05.39 # I mean that pressing play on remote = on main... 18.05.48 # But I could be wrong... 18.08.33 # NightCat: No, we can detect the buttons independently - if we wanted to. 18.09.13 Join Febs [0] (n=Febs@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 18.10.12 # http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release_html_b1?release_id=107623 18.10.13 # :D 18.20.29 Join Therx [0] (n=pete@i-195-137-39-215.freedom2surf.net) 18.20.49 # hi all 18.22.30 # Therx: How's it going? 18.22.48 # yeh gd, it all works 18.23.01 # now i want to start looking at programming bits myself 18.23.04 # Febs: Started your user interface analysis yet? :) 18.23.14 # ?!? wasn't going to... 18.23.22 # oh sry 18.24.16 # yeh, i just need to get to grips with the rockbox source tree, or i might try writing a kernel from scratch... 18.42.09 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A461A3.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.45.57 Quit KN|stiff (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.46.54 Join Bger [0] (n=Bager@217.9.226.114) 18.53.18 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 18.54.59 Join San||Away [0] (n=test@212.2.168.80) 18.55.05 # hey 18.55.08 # can anyone tell me how to fix this: 18.55.09 # http://pastebin.com/525952 18.55.21 # i did try an fresh source, but nothing 18.55.22 # :( 18.55.26 # sec 18.55.55 # are you sure it's a fresh source ? 18.56.06 # yes 18.56.11 # DevKit ... 18.56.11 # Do you have the file apps/settings_menu.c ? 18.56.16 # yes 18.56.17 # did you reran configure? 18.56.23 # rerun 18.56.24 DBUG Enqueued KICK San||Away 18.56.24 # yes 18.56.38 # i will download the dev kit again 18.57.02 # Don't do that :) Do this: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment 18.57.12 # (the new Rockbox cygwin packages) 18.57.30 # ah, ok 18.57.32 # thanks 18.57.59 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 18.59.51 # hhhm 18.59.54 # its working now 19.00.05 # I am using another dev kit I found on the other disk 19.00.12 # damn 19.00.16 # just as I said that 19.00.17 # lol 19.02.19 Join xam [0] (i=xam@beast-fddi.6.strangled.net) 19.02.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.03.37 # linuxstb there is a cygwin package ? 19.03.54 # For the various cross-compilers, yes. 19.04.05 # Linus set them up a few days ago. 19.05.03 # how would one use the cygwin compiler? 19.05.42 # Exactly the same as the devkit. 19.05.56 # so, make a folder called home/guest/build 19.06.05 # and but the source in /home/guest ? 19.06.10 # *put 19.06.38 # A "real" Cygwin installation will create a home directory with the same name as your Windows username - e.g. /home/san/ (if your Windows log is "san") 19.07.13 # in the install folder? 19.08.31 # By default, you will get a C:\cygwin folder - and /home/san in Cygwin will be c:\cygwin\home\san in Windows. 19.08.58 # When you start Cygwin, it will put you in the /home/san folder. 19.09.18 # So you can just download your Rockbox source, and put it in c:\cygwin\home\san\ 19.09.30 # And then you'll see it when you start cygwin. 19.09.30 Join Paul_The_Ner1 [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 19.10.52 Quit Paul_The_Ner1 (Client Quit) 19.11.16 # it never installed with a /home folder 19.11.52 # What didn't, cygwin? 19.12.10 # yes 19.12.34 Quit Therx ("Leaving") 19.13.03 # Then something must have gone wrong with the installation. 19.13.15 # (or you didn't fully run the installation to the end) 19.14.15 # it asks me what packages I want to install 19.14.19 # i just clicked next 19.14.24 # would that be the problem? 19.15.48 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 19.15.48 # * BHSPitLappy yawns 19.16.08 # San||Away: administrative priveleges? 19.16.13 # yes 19.16.22 # I don't know, but it's always created a home directory for me. 19.16.28 # ok 19.16.32 # doesn't really matter 19.16.37 # i just needed to build a sim 19.16.48 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-131-031.pools.arcor-ip.net) 19.16.51 # But if you have both cygwin and the devkit installed, they might interfere with each other. 19.17.01 # (I'm guessing now.... ) 19.17.14 # hhhm 19.17.51 Nick San||Away is now known as [San] (n=test@212.2.168.80) 19.17.51 DBUG Enqueued KICK [San] 19.22.49 Quit stamppot1975 ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12") 19.26.34 Quit Paul_The_Nerd (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.30.36 Part xam 19.34.35 Join TCK- [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-166-110.dsl.pipex.com) 19.34.38 Join Matze41 [0] (i=Miranda@p5484D3D0.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.35.47 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.35.55 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 19.36.28 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB73481.ipt.aol.com) 19.36.45 Join slimx [0] (n=slimx@vau75-7-82-234-251-56.fbx.proxad.net) 19.40.42 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@ip-71.net-81-220-111.rev.numericable.fr) 19.42.39 # Is there any major differences between the normal LCD remote of H100 and the LCD remote of H300? 19.45.04 Join Gibbed [0] (i=rick@pool-71-108-9-40.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 19.45.05 Quit Rick (Nick collision from services.) 19.45.17 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-71-108-9-40.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 19.45.50 # XavierGr: nope 19.46.37 # mirak: Ported any new video codecs? 19.46.38 Quit Paul_The_Nerd ("Leaving.") 19.47.56 # mirak: so they have the same lcd? 19.48.30 # linuxstb: no, I am done 19.48.34 # :D 19.48.49 # :( 19.48.51 # XavierGr: from what I have heard they are interchangeable 19.49.10 # linuxstb: only optimisation could be worked on 19.49.21 # well at least that's what I would work on 19.49.35 # There are other decoders - e.g. ffmpeg decoders. 19.49.44 # what do you mean ? 19.50.25 # wich codec could be intersting ? linuxstb ? 19.51.02 # in fact my main motivation was to get more than 10 fps out of the H300 19.51.21 # but iriver did a very good job 19.51.45 # :( 19.51.59 # I hoped they did bad job, but no :D 19.53.01 # I mean there may be better xvid decoders than xvidcore. 19.53.16 # And I agree, I think iriver did well to get 10fps out of the H300. 19.54.33 # mirak, so no chance to get more than 10fps from h300? 19.55.00 Join vger_ [0] (n=henrico@cn-mss-cb01-2760.dial.kabelfoon.nl) 19.57.31 Quit TCK- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.59.18 Join DrPsy [0] (i=DrMoos@m53.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 19.59.25 Quit DrMoos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.59.52 Nick DrPsy is now known as DrMoos (i=DrMoos@m53.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 20.03.10 Quit DangerousDan (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.03.38 # XavierGr the remotes are nearly the same, LCD-wise are completely equal 20.04.49 # the real differences are 20.05.00 # 1) the resistor network 20.05.11 # 2) the situation of the buttons 20.05.36 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.05.44 # 3) 2 of the buttons on H100's one are BITRATE & SOURCE, they are named +10 and -10 on H300's one 20.07.15 # Bger so there is no reason to buy an H300 remote right? 20.07.44 # only thing that bothers me is that my H100 is clicky and I don't know if it is the remote to blame or the unti. 20.07.46 # XavierGr imho the h300's one is much much better 20.07.52 # than h100's one 20.08.18 # u'll get a h300, yeah ? 20.08.53 # yes 20.14.02 # Am, small question: how to wrap line in splash()? 20.14.43 # I tried: rb->snprintf(tstr,sizeof(tstr),"a \n d");rb->splash(HZ*2, true, tstr); 20.15.02 # But it's not work... 20.15.52 # NightCat afaik the splash reorders the words to fit on the screen 20.16.04 Quit ghode|afk () 20.16.54 # I know, i just ask a symbol, wich wrap the string... 20.17.49 # It have to be \n but on screen I have "lf" instead of string wrap... 20.18.05 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 20.18.36 Part Philip_0729 20.18.37 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.18.39 # NightCat: I don't think splash() supports wrapping strings - you can only display a single line. But I could be wrong. 20.18.46 Quit linuxstb (Nick collision from services.) 20.18.48 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 20.19.21 Join ghode|afk [0] (i=testing@host-84-9-105-221.bulldogdsl.com) 20.19.21 # Ok. 20.19.25 # linuxstb u're wrong 20.19.31 # OK :) 20.19.39 # if(x+w> screen->width) { 20.19.39 # /* Too wide, wrap */ 20.19.51 # It wraps but very bad... 20.19.52 # apps/gui/splash.c 73 20.19.53 # :( 20.19.57 # and also 20.20.07 # widths[line]=x-SPACE; /* don't count the trailing space */ 20.20.19 # Ok. 20.20.57 # NightCat what do you want to do ? 20.21.03 # mm 20.21.07 # instead of 20.21.07 # if(data->wps_sb_tag && data->show_sb_on_wps) 20.21.07 # offset = STATUSBAR_HEIGHT; 20.21.07 DBUG Enqueued KICK Paprica 20.21.07 # else if ( global_settings.statusbar && !data->wps_sb_tag) 20.21.07 # offset = STATUSBAR_HEIGHT; 20.21.13 # we cant write 20.21.17 # if((data->wps_sb_tag && data->show_sb_on_wps) || 20.21.18 # (global_settings.statusbar && !data->wps_sb_tag)) 20.21.18 # offset = STATUSBAR_HEIGHT; 20.21.20 # ? 20.21.40 # Paprica: Where is that? 20.21.49 # gwps.c 20.21.56 # line 71 20.22.04 # Bger: Forget. I just want to display 3 lines, not one. But it is not nececcory... 20.22.59 # NightCat hm 20.23.59 # Paprica: Yes, that looks a strange if statement. 20.24.18 # =\ 20.24.38 # this code is such a mess .. so this doesn't surprise me at all :)P) 20.25.05 # We lost TiMiD... 20.25.28 # he is in japan, afaik ... 20.26.04 # They have the Internet there.... 20.26.09 # haha 20.26.15 # but don't have time ... 20.26.25 # No excuse. No-one has time for Rockbox. 20.26.27 # didn't someone mail him and ask what's up, to which he replied he'd be back online soon? 20.26.49 # haha maybe she met The Girl :P 20.27.40 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp57-adsl-58.ath.forthnet.gr) 20.31.07 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@dslcustomer-230-197.vivodi.gr) 20.36.47 Ctcp Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 1 hour and 3 minutes at the last flood 20.36.47 # * preglow tickles the equaliser 20.37.29 # * linuxstb pokes at the fiq 20.37.54 # this bastard's got a heart of stone 20.37.58 # small wonder, i created it 20.38.20 Join AndyY [0] (n=51ebb90d@labb.contactor.se) 20.38.37 Quit [San] (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.39.36 # I wrote a guide how to use IDA to analyze Iaudio's firmware.. hope you enjoy :) 20.45.37 # cool 20.47.18 Join San [0] (n=test@213-202-139-169.bas502.dsl.esat.net) 20.47.21 # can someone do me a favor please? 20.48.01 # depends 20.48.15 # preglow: If you have a minute, should the following be all I need to do in crt0.S to set up the FIQ: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/crt0_fiq.diff 20.48.56 # can someone send me a H300 sim please? 20.50.42 # linuxstb: looks good, though we'll want to write as much as possible of the fiq handler in asm 20.51.00 # to minimise use of the registers that aren't banked 20.51.04 # Of course. I'm trying to get something working first. 20.51.43 Quit paugh ("Leaving") 20.51.58 # At the moment, my fiq() function simply increments a counter (which I display in the audio debug screen). But the counter isn't being incremented, so my fiq routine isn't being called at all. 20.51.59 # but yeah 20.52.07 # just make sure the fiq disable flag is cleared some place 20.52.18 # tomal removed that part of the code from crt0.S and put it somewhere else 20.53.37 Quit vger_ ("BitchX: No windows left!") 20.54.00 Nick DrMoos is now known as Moos (i=DrMoos@m53.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 20.54.15 # mm how can i set function with parameter that not need to be provided all time? 20.54.28 # (...) 20.54.43 # Paprica look at firmware/common/... 20.54.57 # linuxstb: don't worrie, TiMiD don't have forget Rockbox and didn't go to Japon yet afaik 20.55.06 # Paprica look at firmware/common/sprintf.c 20.55.13 # ok 20.55.15 # 10q 20.55.55 # linuxstb: he have to finish all his studies his studies projects first and he don't have internet access yet 20.55.56 Quit Genre9mp3 () 20.56.17 # Paprica only one parameter ? 20.56.23 # yep.. 20.56.27 # hm 20.56.28 # sec 20.56.41 # ok 20.56.44 # 10x 20.57.38 # AndyY: I hope dev will come around ;) 20.57.48 # hm, this seems to be the only way :) 20.57.54 # i was confused wit C++ 20.58.20 # mm ok 20.58.32 # there you can make things like int func(int a=def_value) 20.58.58 # or difine diff functions with the same name but different params 21.00.32 # define ... 21.00.34 # never mind 21.00.50 # =\ 21.00.58 # Paprica: The simpliest solution is just to always pass one parameter to the function. 21.01.51 # dont understood 21.01.54 Join __peer__ [0] (n=hrm@bzq-84-109-131-238.red.bezeqint.net) 21.02.03 # Paprica just use some unusual value 21.02.12 # mm 21.02.15 # and check for it in the func() itself ... 21.02.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.02.38 # but its a function in lcd-16bit.c 21.02.38 # or use value that doesn't matter ... 21.02.48 # =\ 21.02.49 # what do you want to od ? 21.02.51 # do 21.03.04 # mm range for scrolling text 21.03.20 # the x1 allready done 21.03.30 # now i need the x2 21.03.58 # linuxstb: well mpeg2 gave bad result as well 21.04.15 # so you don't want to rewrite all calls to this func ? 21.04.16 # Paprica: with xvid, hardly 21.04.21 # for one param more ? 21.04.31 # yep 21.04.42 # mm will use a variable 21.04.56 # not in the fuction 21.05.02 # hm ? 21.05.06 # global var ? 21.05.12 # i don't think it's a good idea 21.05.14 # void lcd_setmargins(int x, int y) 21.05.15 # { 21.05.15 # xmargin = x; 21.05.15 # ymargin = y; 21.05.15 # } 21.05.21 # somthing like this.. 21.05.34 # hmm 21.05.37 # its not a global 21.05.43 # yes, i saw it 21.05.49 # =] 21.06.12 # but... it has some drawbacks... 21.06.50 # like one thread sets it to diff than LCD_WIDTH, and other expects it to be LCD_WIDTH 21.07.03 # so you'd call this func too 21.07.11 # if i understand your idea correctly 21.07.21 # That's not a problem though - I think only the main thread uses the LCD. 21.07.39 # We also have functions to change the fg and bg colour. 21.07.45 # yep, u're right 21.07.58 # but it'll be a bit artifical... 21.08.28 # But for Paprica's problem, I would add a new function that takes the extra two parameters. 21.09.03 # for what i want to do? 21.09.09 # in the matter of that some scroll funcs take left offset (only) 21.09.16 # You want to add margins to scrolling text? 21.09.22 # yep 21.09.24 # in wps 21.09.48 # very usefull in the new 24 bitmaps wps 21.10.17 # 16 :P 21.10.24 # yep 21.10.33 # in the pkayer its 16 21.10.34 # ;] 21.11.14 # The existing scroll function is just a special case of your new one. So you can replace the existing scroll function by a call to your new function. 21.12.26 # i now 21.12.39 # i use the existing 21.21.08 # Moos: who is dev? 21.21.58 # AndyY: All futur developers wanted to help ;) 21.23.26 # Moos: yep 21.24.22 # AndyY: did you already take a look at the Rockbox current source code? 21.27.12 Join DrMoos [0] (i=DrMoos@m53.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 21.27.12 Quit Moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.29.19 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@p548611B7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.30.39 Quit NightCat () 21.31.26 # Moos: yes, I have contributed to the rockbox.. but I don't have X5 (yet) 21.38.37 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-166-110.dsl.pipex.com) 21.41.00 # amiconn: there? 21.42.04 Join Bloody_Sorcerer [0] (n=BS@cpe-72-228-239-41.rochester.res.rr.com) 21.42.05 # yes 21.42.22 # i was thinking about the color bitmap support we discussed earlier 21.43.46 # do you think it would be good enough to let transparent bitmaps have a transparent color, and let the bitmap loader create the mask? 21.44.18 # would make the wps creation simpler than having to maintain a mask 21.44.23 # yes 21.44.37 # we could do the same for grayscale 21.44.54 # amiconn: are you perfectly certain the mask bitmap approach will be faster? 21.44.57 # And bmp2rb could do the same for "internal" bitmaps. 21.45.08 # one question is which color to make transparent 21.45.13 # LinusN: btw, is it safe to assume that our arm cores use burst mode? i think it sounds unlikely it doesn't 21.45.23 # hard-coded 255,0,255? 21.45.24 # The intenal processing should be done with a mask, for better speed and uniform code across high-depth and low-depth displays 21.45.36 # preglow: i have no idea 21.45.47 # LinusN: hard coded completely crazy shade of pink is what all people use for transparent colour 21.45.57 # amiconn: provided that there isn't a performance penalty of course 21.46.07 # The loader could define a special colour as transparent, which should imho be the same for all targets, i.e. also greyscale 21.46.28 # then i suggest 255,0,255 21.46.53 # This doesn't mean we need high-depth BMPs for H1x0, a 4-bit BMP will do 21.47.09 # The palette would then contain one entry with this crazy colour 21.47.16 # in the meantime, i think we could do a naive color comparison in lcd_bitmap() for color targets 21.47.18 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-154-160-47.bna.bellsouth.net) 21.47.29 # amiconn: yes 21.48.14 # Hehe, it would be funny if someone tries to use the german 'Telekom' logo then 21.48.25 # It could end up invisible... 21.48.35 # lol 21.49.17 # that logo is very pink indeed 21.49.25 # awful 21.51.09 # sweet lord 21.51.10 # btw 21.51.20 # did tomal post his disassembler somewhere? 21.51.26 # the crazy-ass lisp based one 21.52.02 # I don't think so. 21.52.29 # :( 21.52.55 # He seemed willing to though. 21.56.28 # LinusN: Wouldn't it be better to have two lcd_bitmap() functions - one that handles transparency, and one that doesn't, rather than slowing down every bitmap draw. 21.56.45 # linuxstb: perhaps 21.56.52 # i'm sure he's willing, it's just the fact that it doesn't interact too well with people, heh 21.57.15 # The WPS code could then be changed to analyse the input bitmap, and call the appropriate function. 21.58.19 Join solexx_ [0] (n=jrschulz@d051235.adsl.hansenet.de) 21.58.41 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 21.58.44 # i think that'd definitely be the best idea 21.59.06 # linuxstb: i think the wps code could start with always using the transparent function 21.59.38 # the bmp loader doesn't know if the loaded bitmap is transparent or not 22.00.56 # I think it should be possible to tell the bmp loader whether it should load the bitmap as transparent or not 22.01.33 # seems like it should be configurable by the wps creator, whether a given image entry should be loaded transparent or not. 22.01.54 # how about we just assume that colour will never be used? :> 22.01.59 # no one in their right minds would anyway 22.02.03 # apart from deutsche telekom 22.02.10 # i assume they aren't in their right minds 22.02.15 # hi all 22.02.24 # preglow: in a game, that color might be hit as aprt of an explosion or sunset or something? 22.02.26 # amiconn: did the ondio worked with battery_bench? 22.02.32 # yes 22.03.02 # ok good to know 22.03.04 # The only problem were the clipped info text when starting the plugin 22.03.13 # s/were/was/ 22.03.23 # lostlogic: wasn't serious anyway 22.03.32 # I will inform Bger 22.03.33 # ah, sorry, can't read sarcasm :) 22.04.49 # lostlogic: just assume i'm sarcastic 50% of the time, and you'll do well 22.06.12 # 50% only? 22.06.13 # wimp 22.08.08 # preglow: So, should we just be flipping coins on each post? 22.09.03 Quit dpassen1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.09.30 # If Suse in VirtualPC is faster than Cygwin? 22.10.37 # Paul_The_Nerd: i suggest you just stop paying attention to me, altogether easier 22.12.52 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.13.26 Quit DJDD__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.13.40 Quit solexx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.14.04 Join DJDD__ [0] (n=DJDD@58.164.117.61) 22.16.04 Quit Bloody_Sorcerer (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.16.06 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 22.16.52 # Rob2222: For building rockbox it certainly is 22.17.24 # I am running debian testing in a VM. Compiling rockbox there is 3 times faster than doing it in cygwin on the very same host 22.18.39 # Maybe it's somewhat slower in VirtualPC 22.19.01 # cygwin is slow 22.19.06 # that's common knowledge 22.20.04 # amiconn: OK thx. Then I will start building the cross compiler 22.24.40 # btw, is the ipod i2s driver much work? 22.24.43 # do you think I could build rockbox from damn small linux? 22.24.48 Nick DrMoos is now known as Moos (i=DrMoos@m53.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 22.27.29 Join spazzium_ [0] (n=nospam@vpn-client-146.itap.purdue.edu) 22.30.33 Quit spazzium (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.30.33 Quit AndyY ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.32.07 Quit aegray (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.32.53 # I dont know why the graphic is very slow at a virtual PC. is it normal? 22.33.00 # i mean 2D graphic 22.33.43 Join aegray [0] (n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com) 22.39.43 # configure error: no aceptable cc found in path 22.39.44 # cc? 22.40.09 # cc being the standard unix name for the compiler 22.40.27 # CC=gcc ./configure 22.40.39 # or similar 22.41.03 Join spazzium [0] (n=nospam@12-208-105-223.client.insightBB.com) 22.41.32 # hmm, i had installed gcc with suse linux 22.41.52 # ill check again 22.42.04 # ... then configure should of course find it 22.43.07 # btw, is there a "standart" irc client in suse maybe? 22.43.14 Quit NicoFR () 22.43.41 Join Midgey34 [0] (n=Midgey34@c-24-11-55-125.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 22.44.12 # Rob2222: it probably comes with one or two... bitchx, irssi, or xchat are likely candidates 22.44.25 # ok, ill look. 22.44.31 # gcc wasnt installed. 22.44.37 # i was sure i selcted it 22.46.41 Quit aegray (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.46.56 Join aegray [0] (n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com) 22.47.11 Quit Strath (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.47.20 Quit spazzium_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.47.25 Join Strath [0] (n=mike@dpc67143207026.direcpc.com) 22.47.46 Join DangerousDan [0] (n=Miranda@newtpulsifer.campus.luth.se) 22.50.20 Join Therx [0] (n=pete@i-195-137-39-215.freedom2surf.net) 22.52.11 # which irc client is good? 22.52.24 # much in package but no one installed, yet. 22.52.39 # xchat is fine enough imho 22.52.51 Quit aegray (Success) 22.53.16 # there should be a death penalty for wikispamming 22.53.19 # Yeah, xchat is pretty nice. 22.53.49 # wikispammin? ho does it? 22.53.51 # w 22.54.04 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 22.54.12 # stupid users regestering and filling loads of pages with links 22.54.28 # usually hidden 22.56.01 Join rob2222_2 [0] (n=rob2222@ACB73481.ipt.aol.com) 22.56.08 # hahaa 22.56.10 # online 22.56.24 # hmm 22.56.30 # :) 22.57.57 Join aegray [0] (n=aegray@12-210-86-210.client.insightBB.com) 22.58.38 # I think I must install linux on my notebook, too.. 22.59.07 # I only dont know how it is with the partitions. 22.59.32 # can the winxp bootloader start linux? 22.59.55 # I doubt that 23.00.10 # but the linux boot loaders can start windows 23.01.45 # Rob2222: It can, with a bit of manual work 23.02.18 # IC, found a manual at google. 23.02.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.06.36 # hmm, 5gb are a little to less i think 23.07.20 # rob2222 just save the boot sector of the partition to C:\linux.bin ... 23.07.36 # and add C:\linux.bin="linux bla bla" 23.07.38 # to boot.ini 23.09.12 # of the linux partition? 23.09.19 # yep 23.09.22 # i didnt have installed linux, yet 23.09.42 # but imho it would be better to install the linux lilo/grub on the MBR 23.09.50 # ive a primary and a secondary partition with 4 NTFS drives on the notebook 23.10.18 # can i delete one NTFS drive in secondary partition and install linux there? 23.10.27 # otherwise u'd have to update the linux.bin on every new kernel install 23.10.48 # rob2222_2: sure 23.10.51 # yep 23.11.25 # i'm dont want to risk to kill my main windows installation. 23.11.46 # hmm 23.11.47 # unless you've got vital system components on the 2nd drive, you won't 23.12.07 # i only mean the bootloader 23.16.23 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@88.134.20.76) 23.20.12 # rob2222: that's why you should ghost your windows instalation once in a while. 23.20.52 # re 23.21.00 # I have ghosted my windows installation and once in a while, when something goes wrong (a lot of times this happens in windows) I just restore the ghosted partition and voila a new windows instalation. 23.21.44 # hmm well ok 23.21.48 # i can reinstall, too. 23.22.14 # reinstall? no way. 23.22.27 # installation takes 25 minutes 23.22.35 # ghost restore takes 2-3 minutes 23.22.42 # ok, now i delete one NTFS partition of my secondary partition and then start the linux install, right? 23.23.00 # ghost needs 8gb ;) 23.23.05 # nonon 23.23.09 # o 23.23.12 # plus you can capture an image with lots of programs on it (and you will save time from reinstalling various programs) 23.24.07 # 8gb worths in order to avoid reinstalling on such an OS as windows. 23.24.30 # well 23.24.43 # ghost would be ok on a fresh windows install 23.24.54 # this install is so old that it isnt worth gosting 23.24.57 # :) 23.24.59 Join Bloody_Sorcerer [0] (n=BS@cpe-72-228-239-41.rochester.res.rr.com) 23.25.04 # that's a vaild point 23.25.11 # next time you format consider ghost 23.25.20 # will do for laptop 23.26.21 Join tomal [0] (n=tomek@155-moo-7.acn.waw.pl) 23.27.28 # hmmm.. are 5 gb enough?! 23.27.47 # Is aegray here? 23.27.55 # ahh 23.27.57 # * preglow slaps aegray 23.28.00 # Rob2222: if you go for a small linux installation 23.28.14 # he was not too long ago, i told him to mail you 23.28.57 # Yes, he mailed me, I thought that he is still here. 23.29.14 # doesn't look good right now 23.29.20 Join San [0] (n=test@213-202-139-169.bas502.dsl.esat.net) 23.29.24 # hey 23.29.29 # I got the cygwin working 23.29.32 # but it wont build 23.29.40 # i type pwd 23.29.41 # cd build 23.29.44 # rbconf 23.29.52 # then it says rbconf is not found 23.29.55 # *thump* 23.30.01 # don't use rbconf 23.30.08 # ghargh 23.30.11 # or try to 23.30.13 # ../tools/configure 23.30.30 # of all things in this world to abstract 23.30.33 # why configure :/ 23.30.35 # lol 23.30.36 # ok 23.30.36 # I thought I had removed that from the wiki page 23.30.43 # i did try ./configure 23.30.44 # :D 23.31.09 # is gcc4 enough for arm? 23.31.16 # rob2222_2: yes, we recommend that 23.31.19 # or do i need gcc3.4.5 too? 23.31.23 # ok 23.31.24 # rob2222_2: gcc4 is all you need 23.31.27 # thx 23.31.31 # tomal: have you tried using gcc4 for ifp yet? 23.31.38 # preglow, was that a notice? 23.31.48 # preglow: No, I haven't. 23.31.51 # rob2222_2: a notice for what? 23.31.51 # ah no, its red cause my nick is in 23.31.57 # haha 23.31.58 # forget it 23.32.01 # :) 23.32.06 # tomal: do tell us when you get around to testing it 23.32.19 # preglow: ok 23.32.22 # the server build server gcc is gcc4 already, so we'd like to know if it doesn't work on ifp 23.32.28 # i'd be surprised if it didn't, though 23.32.50 # i just completed the m68k cross compiler and will compile now arm. do i have to recompile binutils for that? 23.33.09 # how do I do a make? 23.33.12 # preglow: I'll try it now 23.33.23 # Rob2222: yes 23.33.32 # ok i thought that 23.34.02 # how do you make that with the PATH variable when 2 crosscompilers are installed? 23.34.13 # can be both in path? no i think. 23.34.18 # yes 23.34.23 # can be? 23.34.37 # they are named m68k-elf-xxx and arm-elf-xxx 23.34.45 # ah ok 23.34.48 # good 23.34.49 # thx 23.34.49 # so there is no conflict 23.34.57 # anyone? How to make? 23.35.01 # is there any consistent flag i can check for for debug builds? 23.35.04 # but you need to install them in separate directories 23.35.12 # yes, ok 23.35.12 # i'm tired of my crossfeed routine breaking debug builds 23.35.13 # San: type 'make' 23.35.19 Join RotAtoR [0] (n=e@12-210-82-91.client.insightBB.com) 23.35.24 # i did 23.35.29 # nothing.. 23.35.40 # i tryed in the build dir and the source dir 23.35.41 # :\ 23.35.48 # San: was that in your build dir after you did ../tools/configure ? 23.35.58 # yes 23.36.07 # and configure worked fine? 23.36.11 # yep 23.36.15 # no error message when you type "make"? 23.36.24 # yes 23.36.47 # BASH: Make command not found 23.36.56 # you call that "nothing"? 23.37.11 # yes 23.37.14 # I wonder what "command not found" could mean... 23.37.21 # will, i ment nothing, as in nothing worked 23.37.24 # yeah, me too... 23.37.25 # it *could* mean that the command was not found 23.37.29 # i know 23.37.43 # how do I fix it though? 23.37.45 # so did you install make? 23.37.50 # San: what installation instruction did you follow to install cygwin? 23.38.00 # linuxStb 23.38.04 # him 23.38.24 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment 23.38.35 # thanks Linus 23.38.42 # what the hell? 23.38.52 # logf truncates lines longer than the screen width, even when saving to a file? 23.39.12 # preglow: yes since it stores them so in mem 23.39.45 # why not use a single array and just use the space you need for each line? 23.40.02 # feel free to fix 23.40.14 # I made it so to make it faster/easier to scroll in the buffer 23.40.15 # don't feel up to recoding the viewer :> 23.40.31 # we could just call the viewer plugin :-) 23.40.38 # for a saved one, yes 23.41.34 # iirc, you can extend the line lengths with no trouble in case you feel like doing a build with really long lines 23.41.42 # nah 23.41.54 # anyway to stop idiots inviting you to chanells? 23.42.15 # set yourself "invisible" 23.42.22 # ty 23.43.25 Quit San (Excess Flood) 23.43.29 Join San [0] (n=test@213-202-139-169.bas502.dsl.esat.net) 23.43.47 Quit Therx ("Leaving") 23.44.03 # I am invisable 23.44.13 # And I am still getting this crap 23.44.20 Nick San is now known as [San] (n=test@213-202-139-169.bas502.dsl.esat.net) 23.44.32 # invincible or invisible? 23.45.03 # nevermind 23.45.07 # <[San]> Invisable 23.45.10 # Strange I have never been invited to a channel.... 23.45.22 # error accessing playlist control file 23.45.24 # <[San]> i just got invited like 50 times 23.46.01 # somebody know the reason for that error on start? 23.46.31 # muesli__: yes, rockbox can't access the playlist control file ;-) 23.46.39 # which is located in the .rockbox dir 23.46.44 # <__peer__> jello 23.47.00 # <__peer__> anyone have 256mb player? 23.47.01 # But I cant resize NTFS partitions with the SUSE installer, or? 23.47.04 # Bagder ;-) never used a playlist ;) 23.47.14 # Bagder: and \n doesn't split the lines or anything? 23.47.27 # but i have ploblems enabling the dir cache also 23.47.32 # do you see any connection? 23.47.33 # preglow: I don't think so... 23.47.40 # used the bleeding edge 23.48.54 # muesli__: run scandisk 23.48.56 # __peer__: What brand of player do you mean? iriver ifp? 23.49.06 # LinusN everything is fine 23.49.15 # am using 2 primary partitons 23.49.32 # muesli__: delete .rockbox/.playlist_control if there is one 23.49.34 # ooh 23.49.43 # dircache worx 23.49.45 # does anyone know how to see how many row has someone used in a column in excel? 23.50.47 # LinusN btw where are the settings saved? deleted everything concerning rockbox but my old settings were still there after re-installing 23.51.09 # it has a 6th sense! 23.51.20 # muesli__: in a sector on disk, after the partition table (sector 62) 23.51.21 Quit Lynx_ (" bye") 23.51.35 # so the 62nd sense ;) 23.52.19 # <[San]> where do all the freenode oppers hang out? 23.52.32 # XavierGr ? 23.53.02 Nick [San] is now known as Sanitarium (n=test@213-202-139-169.bas502.dsl.esat.net) 23.54.08 # bah 23.54.13 # coef calculation is spot on correct 23.54.45 # Sanitarium: #freenode 23.55.06 # slasheri? 23.55.19 # is he/she here? 23.55.47 Nick Sanitarium is now known as HadToChangeNick (n=test@213-202-139-169.bas502.dsl.esat.net) 23.56.08 # he 23.56.12 # and ask and find out 23.56.24 # * preglow trout slasheri 23.57.01 # you need to bow humbly too 23.57.53 # LinusN thank you, my problem disappeared :) 23.58.03 Quit linuxstb (Remote closed the connection) 23.58.42 Join linuxstb [0] (n=5343d4aa@labb.contactor.se)