--- Log for 18.02.106 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 4 days ago 00.00.14 # Can't say I ever noticed a problem on the H1xx either. 00.00.40 Join NicoFR [0] (n=nico404@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 00.05.01 # The patch is an improvement over another patch. 00.05.46 # It adjusts repeat rate dynamically depending on the capability of the application to process the events 00.06.37 # So it's a problem that manifested mostly in plugins, I take it? 00.06.50 # Geez, the 5G has really fucked up USB. 00.06.53 Quit ender` (" Some people have one of those days. I've had one of those lives.") 00.07.07 # Shadowarrior13, in what way? 00.07.12 Join webguest85 [0] (n=0cad6dbb@labb.contactor.se) 00.07.46 # There's like, no common factor in USB detection. 00.07.55 # Cassandra: On H300 there's massive afterscroll when scolling longer lists with repeat 00.08.32 # The inital idea was to drop repeat events instead of posting them when the queue isn't empty 00.09.24 # Ah, right. How come it doesn't manifest on the 1xx then? I thought the hardware was identical wrt button drivers. 00.09.37 # * Cassandra gets the feeling I'm asking dumb questions again, sorry. 00.09.38 # This has the disadvantage that scrolling can stutter if the app can just even cope, as every now and then an event gets dropped 00.09.40 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c210-49-190-113.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) 00.10.03 # amiconn, I'd expect that. Bet it looks nasty. 00.10.08 # Cassandra: This has nothing to do with button hardware or CPU, but with how fast the app can follow (e.g. scrolling a list) 00.10.35 # The scroll speed depends on graphics, and graphics is still slow on H300 00.11.06 # Isn't the correct solution to speed up H300 graphics then? 00.11.23 # Lots of mono bitmaps to draw, on a larger display, with 15 times the framebuffer size 00.12.26 # Cassandra: It's most probably not *the* solution; there will always be situations where auto-adjustment is wanted to avoid afterscroll 00.12.50 # ....e.g. with chunked browsing of the database (which doesn't work atm for some unknown reason) 00.13.32 # Sooner we get tagcache the better, if you ask me. 00.13.36 # and with future colour icons and fonts and backdrops and whatnot, graphics speed is likely to remain an issue in some circumstances 00.14.06 # Zagor, is the H3xx LCD bandwidth really that much worse than the iPods? 00.14.23 # I don't know 00.14.52 Join elinenbe [0] (n=elinenbe@207-237-225-94.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 00.15.06 Part XavierGr 00.15.33 # but the more graphic capabilities we add, the more people will use them. witness the wps creativity explosion. 00.16.06 Quit stamppot ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12") 00.16.09 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@p54BD40CF.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.16.40 # * petur is happy his first real commit didn't screw up the builds... 00.17.28 # it was the LinusN one ;-) 00.17.31 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 00.17.31 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@p54BD40CF.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.18.17 # Cassandra: The LCD bandwidth isn't the problem anymore, the problem is the actual drawing. SDRAM is slow, and the framebuffer doesn't fit in IRAM 00.18.26 # (unlike the H1x0 framebuffer) 00.18.38 Quit webguest85 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.19.07 Join yeahx_ [0] (n=aarond@c-67-160-124-13.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 00.19.13 # Ah, right. Which of course it does for the H1xx. Suddenly everything becomes tab. 00.19.28 # About the slowest operation atm is drawing mono bitmaps (also on iPod btw), and showing a scrolling list means drawing hundreds of mono bitmaps 00.19.32 # (aka letters) 00.20.06 # And that's slower than drawing greyscale or colour bitmaps? 00.20.55 # Moos: damn, you're right.... 00.21.05 # I have some ideas how to speed it up, but it requires to switch to horizontal packed mono bitmaps for colour targets and horizontal-packed greyscale targets 00.21.10 # (i.e. greyscale iPods) 00.21.17 # petur: you have to wait a bit :) 00.22.14 # Switching mono bitmap orientation itself isn't the main problem (although it requires to convert all hard-coded icons to .bmps), the main problem is the font handling 00.22.34 # Why not just store everything internally as greyscale/colour as appropriate? 00.22.56 Join stamppot [0] (n=alberink@cc516682-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl) 00.22.59 Nick Thus0_ is now known as Thus0 (n=Thus0@21.111.102-84.rev.gaoland.net) 00.23.02 # It's a waste of space, and it wouldn't solve the problem 00.23.27 # Converting the font bitmaps on load has to work together with the font cache... 00.24.10 # ...and fonts in colour wouldn't work with backdrops 00.24.52 # Huh? It's all just bitmaps in the end. Or do you mean that they wouldn't be very visible? 00.25.30 # No. They would fully cover the background. 00.25.35 Join pyro [0] (n=nitrion2@ool-4356277c.dyn.optonline.net) 00.26.00 # We could use the transparent colour bitmap function, but then we're back to square one with drawing speed 00.27.05 # But we already draw bitmaps over bitmaps. Why couldn't they be written onto the screen in the same way we do that? Or are you saying that's incredibly slow too? 00.27.13 # And: unifont already is 1.32MB. Converted to 16 bit it would be >18 MB 00.27.59 # Even if done on load, it would mean to either enlarge the font cache, or live with frequent reloads... 00.28.04 Quit yeahx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.28.50 # I suppose you are talking about a 16x increase in font size in memory. 00.28.54 # Cassandra: Transparaent bitmap drawing is also slow, and it doesn't work yet for the greyscale targets 00.29.32 # How do desktop OSes cope? I don't recall their fonts being particularly meaty, and they're greyscale. 00.29.34 # ...and won't work in the simple way as it does for colour targets now. 00.29.39 Join webguest70 [0] (n=0cad6dbb@labb.contactor.se) 00.30.02 # hm, the mandelbrot doesn't remember the iteration changes after zooming? 00.30.19 # OS fonts are usually b&w, as long as they're not antialiased 00.30.31 # drawing fonts is slow 00.30.39 # Bah. This is all too complex. Let's go back to LCD charcell displays. 00.31.41 # It's not too complex, it's just complex. 00.31.57 # how can i get a specific revision of a file via cvs ? 00.32.10 # -r 00.32.25 Quit SereRokR ("XChat Aqua") 00.32.37 # I need to dig into the font caching code and find a way to add transposed bitmap support 00.33.27 # This will then probably allow different fonts on main & remote "for free" 00.34.50 Join SereR0kR [0] (n=Fletcher@Fd045.f.strato-dslnet.de) 00.36.39 Join Mark_ [0] (n=Mark@ACBD2676.ipt.aol.com) 00.37.13 Quit SereR0kR (Client Quit) 00.38.49 Quit webguest70 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.38.59 Join webguest72 [0] (n=0cad6dbb@labb.contactor.se) 00.41.56 Join TCK- [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-240-68.dsl.pipex.com) 00.44.28 Join pdbogen [0] (n=patrick@pdpc/supporter/student/OctalTHOR) 00.44.56 # i need to practice making shorter names for patches 00.45.00 # http://mikachu.ath.cx/patches/rockbox-mandelbrot-clear-queue-and-keep-max_iter.patch 00.46.24 # phew... bedtime 00.46.30 Quit petur ("here today, gone tomorrow") 00.47.17 # LinusN: Does the remote type detection also work on H1x0? 00.47.45 # yes 00.48.09 # * preglow returns 00.48.53 Quit pdbogen ("No Reason") 00.49.09 Quit Thus0 ("Leaving") 00.49.48 # The fun part remains: generate button events based on which remote is plugged 00.50.03 # * preglow foresees configurable button mappings 00.50.25 # (probably just a switch() with 3 voltage checking chains) 00.50.26 # we'll have to check out the remote patch in the tracker 00.50.55 # Do all remotes provide the same buttons? 00.51.05 # no 00.51.25 # that's the problem 00.51.41 # What's the greatest common denominator? 00.51.59 # If it's 8 or 9 buttons, I think we can live with that 00.52.35 # the nonlcd remote has 5 00.52.44 # Any extra buttons are just that, extra. We just need to be cautious not to put essential functions on them 00.53.00 Quit hands0me () 00.53.03 # hm 00.53.38 # And the H300 lcd remote? 00.53.54 # amiconn h300 lcd remote is nearly the same as h100 lcd remote 00.54.00 # the same button count 00.54.22 # but h100's has 2 buttons named source & bitrate 00.54.23 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@c-24-16-191-240.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 00.54.40 # while in the h300's they are named "+10" and "-10" 00.55.01 # LinusN could you hold commiting the remote patch in the tracker ? 00.55.14 # hold? 00.55.24 # i mean to not commit it 00.55.29 # I don't think this is important. We don't use Source and Bitrate as such 00.55.39 # yep 00.55.40 # i haven't planned committing it yet 00.55.50 # i'd like to do this 00.55.54 # if it's possible 00.55.54 # What buttons are present on the non-LCD remote? 00.56.00 # vol + - 00.56.03 # prev next 00.56.04 # hold 00.56.08 # and play/pause 00.56.12 # iirc 00.56.14 # i'd like to review that patch before it gets committed 00.56.30 # LinusN okay, of course 00.57.37 # Okay, so only the most essential functions, similar to the archos remote 00.57.44 # (which has 6 buttons) 01.00.25 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.02.59 # Bagder: i installed cygwin 01.03.10 # the sdl sim builds fine now 01.03.47 # the only thing is when i try to run it it says 'sdl.dll is missing', which isn't very surprising 01.04.07 # am i supposed to download it on the dsl site ? 01.04.19 # amiconn: nice work on jpeg plugin 01.04.23 # NicoFR: don't doubleclick to start it 01.04.42 # start rockboxui.exe from the cygwin cmd prompt 01.05.30 # ..or put sdl.dll (from /usr/local/bin ) into windows/system32 01.05.36 Join San||Away [0] (n=test@212.2.183.244) 01.06.45 # thanks to both of you, now i even have a choixe :) 01.06.49 # choice 01.06.54 # LinusN: I just observed a rather odd behaviour of the bootloader 01.07.03 # can't be :-) 01.07.08 # I accidentally put a h120 rockbox.iriver on my h300 01.07.29 # The bootloader tries to load it, shows model: h120, then simply shuts down... 01.07.51 # I would expect it to boot iriver fw in case of a non-matching rockbox... 01.07.58 # amiconn: I strongly advise against copying any dll into \windows\system32. It takes priority over the current directory, and can thus have very weird effects. 01.08.07 # amiconn: it can't unless you hold the ON button 01.08.23 # Cassandra: I know 01.08.37 # LinusN: Ah, then that's the problem. Stupid iriver firmware 01.08.38 # it starts the original firmware, which shuts down immediately since the ON button isn't held 01.08.52 # amiconn, but NicoFR might not. 01.08.59 # not stupid, we do the same thing 01.10.05 # I now have the plugin loader clear the remote lcd as well. Looks much cleaner, however, the remote lcd will stay empty for many plugins, except some splashes 01.10.11 # Should I commit that? 01.10.32 # do that 01.11.12 # I'm a newbie just getting acquinted with the software. Can any one recommend any starting functions/files for where the iriver H3x0 initializes or sets the volume of the Phillips UDA1380 decoder. Does it use the i2c or L3 bus? (I'm sure software can tell me that) 01.11.37 # pyro: i2c 01.11.46 # firmware/drivers/uda1380.c ... 01.11.53 # apps/settings.c 01.12.23 # Oh, smart move, Griffin. The iPod FM remote they sell has an eq button labelled with, wait for it ... a red dot. 01.12.51 # XD 01.13.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.13.42 # * Bger just realised the absense of TEST_PLUGIN_API() macro ... (or whatever name it had) 01.13.45 # Cassandra: i did not know 01.13.53 # (Buttons on that remote: Play/pause, ff, rw, next, prev, volume (up/down I suppose). 01.13.58 # but is it important for that dll ? 01.14.16 # * amiconn noticed a nasty effect with the display on/off on H300 01.14.26 # NicoFR, probably not. But it's safer to copy the DLL into the same directory as your binary. 01.14.43 # That way you can be sure it *won't* cause problems. 01.14.56 # ok 01.14.59 # amiconn what effect ? 01.15.09 # We seriously need a graphic bootloader for the iPod, the menu button NEVER registers. 01.15.18 # Since the backlight is switched on before the LCd is initialised, there is a flash of white light when backlight is switched back on from off state 01.15.30 # Shadowarrior13, yeah - I get that too. 01.15.36 # Oddly it used to work then it stopped. 01.15.37 # Especially noticeable with darker display content, e.g. JPEGs... 01.16.17 # before ?? 01.16.54 # Well, it looks like that 01.17.13 # Shadowarrior13: it registers if you press it at the right time 01.17.24 # Probably the backlight handling is just faster than the lengthy LCD init 01.17.40 # Which is annoying :P 01.17.49 # I'd like to be able to not have to time it. 01.17.51 # amiconn probably the later 01.17.54 # right before the apple logo displays = the right time 01.18.17 # see line 221 in backlight.c 01.18.25 # anyways, if our bootloader is capable of loading rockbox without much hassle == it works 01.18.39 # Which is annoying timing, and stupidly unnecessary :P 01.18.50 # I can sometimes get it to work with a very quick sort of double click where you don't release after the second click. 01.18.51 # the button driver isn't easy to make work right 01.18.57 Join Shani}{Coder [0] (i=Coder@2001:5c0:84dc:1:2:0:0:10) 01.19.03 # i've tried several of them, and none works perfectly 01.19.23 # the one in cvs is actually the best 01.19.26 # preglow, can't we just have a longer timeout, say a second or so before starting to boot? 01.19.30 # Shadowarrior13: make sure you're not twiddling your thumb too much, i think the scroll wheel events will throw away the menu button event 01.19.33 # Cassandra: doesn't help 01.19.41 # I know, the timing still sucks :P 01.19.44 # maybe select would work better 01.19.44 # the button driver is too flakey 01.19.46 # Takes me like, 5 tries 01.20.06 Quit San (Connection timed out) 01.20.13 # plainly put: we need to invest more time into making a polling button driver 01.20.22 # and i'm not about to waste time on that when more pressing matters are left 01.20.50 # btw, the screen still isn't getting cleared on poweroff. 01.20.57 # no surprise 01.21.00 # we haven't tried to fix it 01.21.08 # also because it's not a priority 01.21.29 # What're you working on then? 01.21.51 # right now i'm working on an assembler fiq handler when i can 01.22.10 # What's that do? 01.22.27 # okay, i need sleep 01.22.28 # nite 01.22.32 Quit Bger ("[BX] It's not TV. It's BitchX.") 01.22.34 # playback calls the fiq handler an ungodly number of times per second 01.22.38 # this should make it faster 01.22.52 # Ah - cool. 01.23.12 Quit Moos ("Glory to Rockbox!") 01.23.32 # the fiq handler can use registers r8-r14 without having to bother about restoring them, and gcc doesn't care about that 01.25.42 # Not event when using __attribute__ ((interrupt (""))) ? 01.25.51 # Hmmm. The only female dock connectors available seem to smd. This does not bode well for creating an M to F cable. 01.26.01 # to be smd that is. 01.26.29 Quit KN|stiff ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 01.27.17 # amiconn: using __attribute__ ((interrupt("fiq")); just makes gcc save r0-r7 and then continue pretending like nothing happened... 01.28.28 # Btw, why can the fiq handler use the registers without restoring? 01.28.47 # they're banked 01.28.55 # aha 01.29.20 # fiq mode is a separate mode for arm, so it banks r8-r14 01.29.25 # Is that just for this one interrupt? 01.29.30 # fiq = fast interrupt 01.29.31 # ok 01.29.48 # time to sleep, nite all 01.29.53 # night 01.29.58 # g night 01.29.59 # night LinusN 01.30.02 Part LinusN 01.30.29 # i think all the other modes have only got r14 banked, and that's the link reg, so it doesn't count 01.31.04 # fiq has got a number of registers banked exactly so you can use them and then just forget about them, so i'm hoping an assembler fiq handler that only uses those will help a bit 01.31.50 # will see, i'm in no state to code right now 01.33.44 Quit DreamTactix291 () 01.33.46 # Did you use "fiq" or "FIQ" for the parameter 01.33.49 Join yeahx [0] (n=aarond@c-67-160-124-13.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 01.33.49 # ? 01.33.55 # Maybe it's important... 01.34.16 # hey 01.34.28 # the link to the bleeding-edge nano build's broken :( 01.34.59 # FIQ 01.35.03 # try again 01.35.12 # and i did inspect the assembler output, it did change 01.37.29 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-149-149-154.bna.bellsouth.net) 01.39.22 Quit perldiver ("some games are better left unplayed") 01.42.54 Join perldiver [0] (n=say@cpe-66-65-89-236.nyc.res.rr.com) 01.43.01 # i'm out 01.43.03 # good night 01.44.33 Quit yeahx_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.44.34 Quit Mark_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.44.41 Join Mark_ [0] (n=Mark@ACBD2676.ipt.aol.com) 01.46.48 # Paprica: thanks 01.47.04 Part krmathis 01.47.05 # hihi =] 01.50.36 # hihi? 01.50.43 # HAI HAI HAI 01.50.51 # BORK BORK BORK! 01.51.18 # We are teh borg ()_() 01.57.23 Join yeahx_ [0] (n=aarond@c-67-160-124-13.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 02.03.36 Join perl|wtf [0] (n=say@cpe-66-65-89-236.nyc.res.rr.com) 02.07.25 Join ansivirus [0] (i=ansiviru@ppp-69-148-71-129.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 02.08.09 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-123-204.VIC.netspace.net.au) 02.09.36 Quit yeahx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.13.27 Quit NicoFR () 02.15.52 Quit Vertigo_tdl ("Connection reset by hopkin green frog") 02.18.35 Quit perldiver (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.20.59 Quit Kohlrabi ("Fast alle Menschen sind Regenwürmer") 02.35.21 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 02.36.29 Quit aliask ("Chatzilla 0.9.70 [Firefox 1.5.0.1/2006011112]") 02.40.19 Quit yeahx_ () 02.55.18 # so rockboy works on the 5g, but not the nano? 02.59.38 # rockboy "works" on the 5G 02.59.49 # You can't play it though 02.59.52 # or at least, not last night 03.04.33 # does the nano's resolution clear the gameboy's? 03.05.09 # BHSPitLappy: Nope, it's a bit too short. 03.05.32 # oh 03.05.43 # pssh :P 03.05.44 # The GB is 140+something px high, nano is 132. 03.05.51 # Same problem as iBoy on the 4g... 03.06.12 # * BHSPitLappy is a little weirded out that three of us from the iPL channel are the ones conversing here... 03.06.22 # heh 03.07.38 # would iBoy be able to use hd someday to scale it? 03.07.48 # sure 03.07.49 # or is it all-around too much cpu 03.08.02 # no, scaling is quite quick if you do it at the same time as blitting 03.08.12 # there's a bit of a per-row penalty, but hardly any per-pixel 03.08.24 # and the per-row penalty is just because it uses too many registers and you have to store some out to RAM :-) 03.08.25 # and when it's only 8 lines getting the shaft 03.08.43 # doesn't matter too much :P 03.08.46 # BHSPitLappy: you'll still use 8 lines, they'll just be 8 evenly spaced lines instead of 8 at the bottom 03.08.50 # s/use/lose/ 03.08.55 # heh 03.08.59 # interesting typo :P 03.09.11 # and I realize that :) 03.09.26 # wouldn't they get blended? isn't that the point of scaling? 03.10.04 # nope, that sort of scaling is way too slow for realtime effects 03.10.25 # there's three types: linear, bilinear, and cubic 03.10.29 # cubic is out of the question 03.10.41 # linear is what HD does now - just skip every Nth line 03.10.53 # (or do each Nth line N times, etc. it's done using fixed-point math.) 03.11.10 # bilinear is slightly better and not much slower, but it makes the whole thing look blurry 03.13.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.13.51 # bicubic! 03.13.55 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp13-adsl-247.ath.forthnet.gr) 03.22.12 # heh 03.33.58 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 03.35.37 # bipolar... 03.36.14 # I know a bipolar dude, he's crazy. 03.36.38 # He's my friend in cycles. I'm not, then I am, then I'm not XD 03.43.38 # haha 03.43.40 Quit Rob2222_ () 03.44.45 # just give him a mood ring or something, so you can know when/when-not to approach him :P 03.44.52 # Hahaha 03.44.53 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB79D44.ipt.aol.com) 03.45.55 Quit Rob2222 (Client Quit) 03.46.26 Quit gantrixx ("Leaving") 03.46.52 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB79D44.ipt.aol.com) 03.48.08 Join DT291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-149-149-154.bna.bellsouth.net) 03.48.09 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.51.20 Quit webguest72 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.56.19 Quit imphasing (Remote closed the connection) 03.57.33 Join imphasing [0] (n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net) 03.59.02 Quit perl|wtf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.12.07 Quit ehntoo ("Leaving") 04.19.00 Quit saa[b_r]ider (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.28.08 Quit imphasing (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.28.13 # Another beginner question: My background comes from tiny hobby type microprocessors with a 3rd party compiler, debugger, etc. I'm familiar with *nix systems, however don't know what is common to code c in. What are you guys using for rockbox. 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Shuffling.... and then just sits back at the menu 06.14.27 # tried other ogg files? 06.14.40 Quit wizisi2k (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.14.57 # I shut off shuffle and it works 06.14.58 # bug? 06.16.07 # actually it doesnt work 06.16.13 # it comes up to the Now Playing screen 06.16.18 # could be, i dont have any ogg on my pod 06.16.28 # but where it said MP3 before its ??? and then it freezes 06.16.37 Join saa[b_r]ider [0] (n=saab_rid@221.223.98.199) 06.16.58 # did you unzip the entire rockbox zip to your player? 06.17.08 # yep 06.17.19 # Im pretty sure 06.17.46 # should have a rockbox.ipod and a .rockbox folder in the root 06.17.47 # it has all the .codec files 06.17.51 # yep 06.18.02 Quit imphasing (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.18.06 Quit imphasing__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.18.43 # * ghode|afk goes to update 06.19.08 # btw which ipod do you have? 06.21.43 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB75BD8.ipt.aol.com) 06.21.44 Quit Rob2222_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.33.10 Join perldiver [0] (n=say@cpe-66-65-89-236.nyc.res.rr.com) 06.33.16 Quit xerion ("Leaving") 06.33.53 Join xerion [0] (n=xerion@zorgash.student.utwente.nl) 06.34.12 Quit saa[b_r]ider (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.41.07 Join YouCeyE [0] (n=YouCeyE@vp089013.reshsg.uci.edu) 06.45.16 Join webguest55 [0] (n=40518b28@labb.contactor.se) 06.45.30 # hello? 06.46.03 # does anyone know how to build/run the simulator for the x5 06.55.46 Join DT291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-149-149-154.bna.bellsouth.net) 06.58.58 # ??? 06.59.05 Quit webguest55 ("quit") 07.06.41 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.08.48 Part do_me_nice ("Leaving") 07.13.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.15.27 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp15-adsl-250.ath.forthnet.gr) 07.22.33 # ghode|afk: still around? 07.26.04 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-149-149-154.bna.bellsouth.net) 07.35.25 Join perl|wtf [0] (n=say@cpe-66-65-89-236.nyc.res.rr.com) 07.37.46 Quit RotAtoR ("zzzzzz") 07.38.22 Quit DT291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.42.22 Quit perldiver (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.56.31 # Hmm, Wow now my rockbox on my ipod is skipping with mp3s, it didnt before and now it is 07.56.43 Join DT291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-149-149-154.bna.bellsouth.net) 08.00.41 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=jborn@adsl-68-74-116-73.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) 08.02.16 Join Siku [0] (n=Siku@f303b.w3.ton.tut.fi) 08.07.03 Quit TCK- ("well, if you say so.") 08.08.46 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.26.24 # hm, does anyone know where i can find the general menu button-handling code? i'm scouring menu.c, and either it's extremely cryptic or it's not here.. 08.28.43 Join Bger [0] (n=Bager@217.9.226.114) 08.29.20 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m53.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 08.29.33 # Good morning here! 08.29.42 # morning, morning 08.31.06 # morning, Moos 08.37.18 # hola! 08.37.46 # OHHH SHE FELL! 08.39.15 # ...? 08.39.25 # winter olympics? 08.41.01 # yeah 08.42.15 Join yeahx [0] (n=aarond@c-67-160-124-13.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 08.52.26 Quit JoeBorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.54.18 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-149-149-154.bna.bellsouth.net) 08.57.15 # any CVS gurus here? :) wondering how you commit multiple updates at once.. 08.59.27 Join krmathis [0] (n=krmathis@124.84-48-138.nextgentel.com) 08.59.50 Join jackinabox^ [0] (i=jackinab@CPE-147-10-240-254.wa.bigpond.net.au) 08.59.59 # hi all 09.00.04 # yo 09.00.16 # what's up? 09.00.31 # hi 09.00.35 # very much nothingness :) 09.00.45 # sounds familiar :) 09.00.51 Quit xerion ("Leaving") 09.01.10 # what are u running RB on? 09.01.23 # haha :) me? archos recorder and ipod 5g.. 09.01.41 # cool, i have an iriver H340 09.02.01 # nano 09.02.34 # awesome.. i was just about to commit a larger-sized logo for the H300s and ipod 5g's (currently uses the nano-sized 220x68 one..) - but i can't quite figure out how to commit all my changes at once. :) 09.03.00 # ?? 09.03.08 # The H300 is 220x176 09.03.11 # i've only been running RB for a couple of days, still learning to drive it and switch between it and the default f/ware :) 09.03.19 # amiconn, what? 09.03.29 # A larger logo won't fit 09.03.32 # that can't be right.. 09.03.44 # It is 09.03.46 # brb 09.03.48 # i could swear i heard a few times that iriver h320/340 lcd == ipod 5g lcd? 09.04.02 # Nope 09.04.13 # H300 LCD size == iPod *color* LCD size 09.04.20 # iPod color != iPod 5g 09.04.27 # Nano is smaller 09.04.30 # aaaah... makes sense 09.04.31 Quit amiconn (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC with a difference") 09.04.37 # :P 09.06.30 # well, i added a new 320x98 logo for lcds that have a width of 320 and bit-depth of 16, so it'll only occur on the 5g for now i guess.. 09.06.34 Quit DT291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.07.23 # so to ask the obvious...u're one of the RB code contributers midkay?? 09.07.48 # jackinabox^, yes.. mostly the clock plugin, which is mine.. 09.08.18 # cool, still haven't sussed out how to adjust the time :) 09.08.57 # haha :) no rush, the plugin hasn't yet been adjusted for irivers and ipods.. but i've been working on it ;) 09.09.02 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@p54BD40CF.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.09.04 # basic iriver/ipod support in the next few days.. 09.09.52 # amiconn, can you tell me how to commit multiple files at once?.. i want to add a bitmap, and commit a few different source files.. how do you do them all at once? 09.09.57 # nah, i'm in awe that you guys can develop even the BASIC RB functions 09.10.47 # I wonder who's been talking that's on my ignore list 09.10.54 # midkay just write all them to the command line 09.10.58 # BHSPitLappy, ho-ho-ho... 09.11.36 # Bger, as in.. cvs commit -m "here's my comment" apps/yay.c apps/whatever/blah.c apps/bitmaps/yay.bmp ? 09.11.45 # yep 09.11.46 # but 09.11.53 # and to add a file first i need to cvs add it, right? 09.11.53 # the yay.bmp must use -kb ... 09.12.03 # yep 09.12.14 # cvs add -kb apps/bitmaps/yay.bmp 09.12.16 # is there any way of nominating a backlight duration in RB for the H3xx?? the default duraton is *very* short 09.12.18 # cvs commit -m "here's my comment" apps/yay.c apps/whatever/blah.c apps/bitmaps/yay.bmp ? 09.12.23 # seems about right? 09.12.34 # midkay seems, yeah, but try :) 09.12.39 # jackinabox^, it's configurable :) 09.12.44 # Bger, i'm terrified of failure ;) 09.13.15 # well, i can always blame the LAME cvs wiki doc if i do accidentally wipe out the repository or something :) 09.13.19 # ok :) guess i'll just have to spend a few days playing around with it 09.13.22 # yep ;) 09.13.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.13.59 # *cvs add yay.bmp* "deleting *.*" 09.14.00 # :) 09.14.13 # cvs?? 09.14.15 Join Thus0 [0] (n=Thus0@21.111.102-84.rev.gaoland.net) 09.14.17 # *backs away slowly* 09.14.23 # CV Screen 09.14.36 # um. concurrent version system or something. 09.14.54 # exactly 09.14.58 # oh, ok...adding to the acronym bank 09.15.22 # haha :) it's where the source of rockbox resides.. 09.15.36 # so i gathered :) 09.16.20 # i'm a computer security student so managed to nut that one out :) 09.16.29 Join qwm [0] (n=qwm@h161n2fls32o1010.telia.com) 09.16.33 # yawn. 09.16.37 # jackinabox^, haha :) 09.17.08 # i just can't program for sh*t!! 09.17.16 # esp in C 09.18.19 # i don't know C. 09.18.44 # isn't that what RB is coded in? 09.18.55 # jackinabox^, you can take part in animal testing! ;) 09.19.08 # hahaha, ta for that!! 09.19.19 # qwm, stop lying! i know you coded windows from scratch, you.. liar. 09.19.28 Join merbanan [0] (i=banan@dalink.campus.luth.se) 09.19.36 # except that, i don't know much C. 09.19.41 # * jackinabox^ is grooving to a Jimmy Barnes DVD on his H340 09.19.42 # windows is evidental. 09.19.47 # rockbox DS would be awesome 09.20.09 # yeahx, haha 09.20.23 # anyone started on that yet? 09.20.30 # :) 09.20.46 # yeahx, if you have, then yes... :) 09.20.50 # actually there is a 4gb media player coming out for it 09.20.57 # cool 09.21.01 #