--- Log for 21.02.106 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 7 days ago 00.01.13 # woah 00.01.18 # Plasma is a frickin' crazy pluhin 00.01.20 Quit slimx (Remote closed the connection) 00.01.21 # *plugin 00.01.28 # linuxstb: sure, always happy to mess around 00.01.42 Quit ender` (Connection timed out) 00.01.44 Quit TCK- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.02.48 Join ModernExecutive [0] (n=ModExec@pool-70-18-144-65.norf.east.verizon.net) 00.03.13 Quit ModernExecutive (Client Quit) 00.03.35 Quit KN|stiff ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 00.03.39 Join hshah [0] (n=hshah@hirenshah.plus.com) 00.03.41 # Zagor: is it possible to modify how many entries it lists in a single page? 00.03.49 # I would like some more than 20 00.03.51 Part hshah ("Leaving") 00.03.55 # yes, it's a user setting 00.04.04 # lostlogic: you've abandoned rockmame now? 00.04.06 # ehh 00.04.09 # linuxstb: 00.04.46 # I think so... 00.04.47 # I'll love to get nice and clean URLs for each bug 00.04.59 # yeah, that's very nice 00.05.09 # But I've found a GPL'd pacman emulator I want to port. 00.05.52 # Zagor: does it take patches as well? 00.06.15 # yes 00.06.24 # yes, so i see... 00.06.34 Quit michaelconner ("CGI:IRC") 00.06.46 # looks nice, and it's zippy 00.06.55 # any showstoppers? 00.07.18 Join perl|fbi [0] (n=say@cpe-66-65-89-236.nyc.res.rr.com) 00.07.38 # not really. the only thing I've found that is worse than SF is the notification mails. they lack a good subject. 00.08.02 # I'll patch that though, so it's not really an issue. 00.08.19 # a little quirk: we should make .patch files be text/plain and not text/x-c 00.08.35 # example: http://www.rockbox.org/__bugs/task/899 00.08.46 # and click on the attachment 00.09.06 # that's actually an effect of my conversion script. I run "file -i" on all attachments to get at least *some* indication of content 00.09.08 # all of this is peanuts to fix 00.09.25 # I could fix so all text/* become text/plain 00.09.26 # Zagor: ah, then its a script fix then ;-) 00.09.27 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.09.33 # Zagor: sounds like a good idea 00.09.40 # What username/password will we need? 00.10.07 # linuxstb: my thinking is that we'll use the same usernames. they're all migrated. but everyone needs to set a new password. 00.10.36 Join RotAtoR [0] (n=e@12-210-82-91.client.insightBB.com) 00.10.40 # if your user@sourceforge.net address works, you can just click "lost password?" to fix it 00.11.07 # it's a speed bump, but I think it's better than having everyone reregister with new names 00.11.26 # deed 00.11.41 Quit antoine ("Client exiting") 00.12.15 # also it's good to have the correct names on all tasks and comments 00.12.36 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@88.134.20.76) 00.12.57 # can you submit bugs anonymously? 00.13.32 # yes, if we want to allow that 00.13.40 # it's a setting 00.13.56 # I think we want that 00.13.58 # i'll enable it so you can have a look 00.14.02 Join aaronfg [0] (n=yubaba@ool-4356c95b.dyn.optonline.net) 00.14.19 Quit perldiver (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.14.22 # there 00.14.30 # is there a cygwin compile howto out there? 00.14.44 # that sentence looks liek a bag of shit 00.14.44 # :/ 00.15.03 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DevelopmentGuide 00.15.29 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@c220-239-137-122.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 00.15.30 # i love you. 00.16.02 # Zagor: "operating system" feels like a silly field to enter ;-) 00.16.32 # yeah I know. you can't disable fields in this version, but they're optional at least 00.17.28 # we can always hide them in the css... 00.17.44 # Should we have a "Player" category - e.g. Archos, iriver, ipod ... 00.17.49 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@p54BD5B93.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.18.21 # I found a bug 00.18.35 # i bet :-) 00.18.38 # when you view a bug, the "open a new task" doesn't work 00.18.40 # It's a bug tracker.... 00.19.18 # Bagder: indeed 00.19.35 # http://www.rockbox.org/__bugs/task/18 <= very fine bug report ;-) 00.19.47 # haha 00.20.55 # Zagor: I'll be very interested in that conversion script of yours when this takes off ;-) 00.21.27 # view the lovely perl here: http://bjorn.haxx.se/sf2flyspray.txt 00.22.57 # nice set of curl invokes too I see 00.23.18 # yeah. since the xml file doesn't contain all information 00.23.26 # linuxstb: I've got audio problems on the 5g, yes, but not sure if it's mono or not. Distortion for sure though. 00.23.57 # but now, sleep time! 00.24.03 # aaronfg: eq on or off? 00.24.51 # off 00.25.28 Join Lobber_ [0] (n=lobber@131.80-202-66.nextgentel.com) 00.27.45 # *shrug* 00.27.46 # bedtime 00.28.49 # aaronfg: Can you try the very latest bleeding edge build? 00.29.23 # Also, do you have a large (high resolution) photo of your 5g we can use for the simulator? 00.30.20 # i'll grab the latest build now. And I do have my photo of thr 5g. Let me upload it to my server 00.30.38 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 00.30.39 Quit ender1 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.33.37 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48) 00.34.35 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.34.35 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@p54BD5B93.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.37.14 # linuxstb: http://aaronfg.com/dev/rockbox/IMG_2643.JPG 00.37.34 # someone will have to clean it up though. I could do it if no one is free too 00.37.44 # I have no idea what your sim imgs look like though 00.39.51 # An example is here: http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/uisimulator/sdl/UI-ipodnano.bmp 00.40.29 # linuxstb: they also have to be readded with -kb 00.40.40 # i can do that. 00.40.42 # anyone have experience in removine security password on a Lifebook C 1320 ? 00.40.59 # aaronfg: Thanks. 00.41.04 # is there somewhere where the button mappings are laid out? or will someone add those after i edit the image 00.41.06 # Lobber_: nope 00.41.38 # markun: They do indeed... 00.41.42 # I'll fix now. 00.41.48 # k 00.41.57 # LinuxS: ok, tnaks for responding 00.41.59 Quit Lobber_ ("Chatzilla 0.9.69 [Firefox 1.5.0.1/2006011112]") 00.42.51 # any1 know how to print the inskin thingies at MR the correct size for the player? 00.45.22 # markun: Done. 00.45.53 # linuxstb: ok, thanks 00.46.23 # linuxstb: I think the distortion is gone with this latest bleeding egde 00.46.44 # I'm trying to find the other tracks I have played in the past that sounded bad 00.48.55 Join xmixahlx [0] (n=xmixahlx@64.122.111.98) 00.50.39 Join golf7 [0] (i=xbetas@cpe-071-071-081-161.triad.res.rr.com) 00.51.52 # linuxstb: distortion is gone as far as I can tell. And if there was mono before, I don't notice it now. The panned vocals in Radiohead's "Let Down" are playing in each's proper channel as they should 00.52.30 Join LedFloyd [0] (n=Spiffy_V@c-67-164-200-164.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) 00.52.33 # wow. sounds so much better now. 00.52.41 # i just wanted to say thanks alot to all the devs out there 00.52.53 # i plan on helping when i learn c 00.55.20 Quit ender` (" The secret of success is sincerity. Once you can fake that, you've got it made.") 00.55.47 # aaronfg: Glad it's fixed your problems. The bug was simply that the DAC was incorrectly initialised - it was sending the output of both DACs to both channels. 00.57.31 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-120-92.VIC.netspace.net.au) 00.58.46 # well, many thanks, man. I was carrying around my h120 to listen to music and just updating daily builds on the 5g to test the improvement. With this up, I could leave the h120 at home 00.59.39 # np 01.06.21 Join San [0] (n=test@213-202-151-67.bas503.dsl.esat.net) 01.06.43 # i'm almost done cleaning up this 5g photo 01.09.31 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 01.15.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.15.12 # does anyone here know how to ignore the [Global Notice] messages from lilo in irssi? 01.15.20 # for the life of me I can't figure out how 01.15.28 # somehow the messages still get through 01.17.05 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@24.143.70.99) 01.20.02 # am i doing something wrong or is there no themes directory in /.rockbox/ in the source? 01.20.02 # linuxstb: ok, I made 2 imgs, one with the ipod's white color flat filled, so it's a real white, and the other is the actual photo. These are 4 meg files, fyi 01.20.05 # http://aaronfg.com/dev/rockbox/5g_white.bmp 01.20.15 # http://aaronfg.com/dev/rockbox/5g_normal.bmp 01.22.01 # PNG might have been a better choice... 01.22.46 # i can do that too. you said hi res 01.22.54 # lemme re-save it 01.23.16 # png will be the same quality - but it's compressed. Unlike bmp. 01.23.42 # i was just copying the nano one you sent which was bmp 01.24.15 # That was because I gave you a link directly into the Rockbox CVS. 01.24.24 # But it's not a problem. 01.24.51 # linuxstb: i guess you actually know the answer of my question, would you mind to help me? =) 01.25.19 # pngs are uploading now... 01.25.29 # ok 01.25.31 # links are the same 01.25.35 # just change file extension 01.25.35 # warewolf: 56 *!*@*freenode/staff*: NOTICES 01.25.42 # Yes - the themes are stored in the wps directory, which is at the same level as tools, apps, etc in the source. 01.26.15 # http://aaronfg.com/dev/rockbox/5g_white.png 01.26.18 # The Rockbox build system generates the .rockbox/wps/ and .rockbox/themes/ directories automatically based on the capabilities of the target. 01.26.26 # aaronfg: Thanks. 01.26.30 # http://aaronfg.com/dev/rockbox/5g_normal.png 01.26.32 # np 01.27.09 # well linuxstb, the wps folder is there, but its missing the themes folder, which contains the configs 01.27.28 # correct me if i'm wrong 01.27.59 # perpleXa: That's what I'm saying - the build system generates .cfg files from the files in wps 01.28.08 # ah 01.28.14 # ok :X 01.28.20 # Mikachu: yeah thanks -- someone on oftc just pointed me to the faq that has the same 01.28.23 # So the files in /wps/ get converted to .rockbox/wps/ and .rockbox/themes/ 01.28.29 # Mikachu: lets see if that works 01.28.47 # i didn't get any notice at least 01.29.06 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 01.29.16 Join BHSPitLappy2 [0] (i=steve-o@adsl-65-68-201-28.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 01.29.16 # thx linuxstb 01.30.02 # aaronfg: I think I'll take the white one... Thanks again. 01.33.25 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.33.46 # linuxstb: cool. glad i could help out 01.35.26 Quit steveb ("Reconnecting") 01.35.29 Join steveb [0] (n=steve@pan.object4.net) 01.35.42 Part LinusN 01.37.10 # hey 01.37.23 # does rockboy play color games? 01.37.39 # its supposed to 01.37.44 # ...but? 01.37.53 # dunno about if they actually are drawn in colour tho... 01.38.02 # yeah they do 01.38.05 # on the h300 they do 01.38.11 # not sure bout other targets 01.38.22 # ah, ye they work :) 01.38.28 Quit actionshrimp (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.40.38 # i've patched metroid 2 to enable colour 01.40.53 Quit uski (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.40.53 # the speed drop was, well, dramatic. 01.41.42 # (and it ran almost flawlessly in 2-bit colour.) 01.44.07 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-217-89.dsl.pipex.com) 01.44.47 # haha 01.44.50 # it does work 01.44.55 # on the 5G 01.45.02 # but, the controls are the big problem. 01.45.18 # why? 01.45.26 # the key mapper on the options menu is as buggy as it claims 01.45.37 # so I have a few keys bound to single buttons :D 01.45.41 # *:S 01.45.48 # :D 01.45.50 # also, the sound is there, but just distorted 01.46.01 # also, I have no directional keys 01.47.19 # i guess the most successful "gamepad" for rockboy is h100's. 01.48.44 # my left thumb feels wooden after an hour of playing on my h300, the h100 has a more comfortable d-pad. 01.49.00 # actually 01.49.07 # I got it all figured out on the 5G :D 01.49.08 # sugggest any good games? 01.49.10 # awesome! 01.49.15 # zelda! 01.49.20 # that's what I'm playing 01.49.24 # good games? hmm... 01.49.32 # yeah :D 01.49.48 Join qwm [0] (n=qwm@h161n2fls32o1010.telia.com) 01.50.28 # any of the bomberman games, pokemon, metroid 2, megaman games... 01.50.49 # i didn't play all of them though. 01.51.27 Quit zhilik (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.51.41 # haha, ive got the german zelda rom :D 01.52.11 # dgemu.com has every single rom ever released. ;) 01.52.19 # :/ 01.52.29 # why is there two Lappies? 01.52.42 Quit BHSPitLappy (Nick collision from services.) 01.52.46 Nick BHSPitLappy2 is now known as BHSPitLappy (i=steve-o@adsl-65-68-201-28.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 01.52.50 # what are you talking about? 01.52.53 # :P 01.53.14 # your split persona. 01.53.44 # who makes/maintains rockboy? 01.54.22 # i believe i do. 01.54.40 # is that so? :P 01.54.42 # No-one in particular. HCl did the initial port early last year, but others have changed it since. 01.55.12 # if the Hold switch were mappable as a key, I think it'd be usable on a 5G 01.55.28 # bah, can't find anywhere in dsp.c where line writes are practical -- coldfire needs a couple more data registers :( 01.59.24 # wow the new patch/bug tracker is sweet? 01.59.34 Join ashay [0] (n=a@cpe-065-190-015-212.triad.res.rr.com) 01.59.46 # When will you make the conversion? 02.00.35 # XavierGr, what new patch/bug tracker? 02.01.08 # http://www.rockbox.org/__bugs/ <- it is a test setup that Zagor did 02.01.40 # The devs think that jumping from SF to flyspray will be good, and it seems they are right 02.01.59 # wow, sweet indeed 02.03.31 # in order to test out these pathces and stuff, I have to be compiling my own versions of rockbox, right? 02.03.54 # YES 02.04.04 # oops sorry for the caps lock 02.04.12 # :) screaming it at me 02.04.30 # is there a simple guide for linux boxes? 02.04.35 # yes 02.04.48 # I'm running Kubuntu and Ubuntu on my laptop 02.04.55 # Kubvuntu on my desktop 02.05.00 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DevelopmentGuide 02.05.09 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler 02.05.25 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowToCompile 02.05.44 # excellent. thanks 02.05.45 # once you read this you are ready to go, and then the fun part comes.... :) 02.06.11 # i just want to try out that album art patch for the WPS 02.06.14 # :D 02.07.22 # * dpassen1 does not get the point of album art 02.07.36 Join quobl [0] (n=quobl@tor/session/x-353440a32aca9eb1) 02.07.38 # there is no point really 02.07.42 # it's just more stuff to look at 02.07.57 # more ways to use the nice 5g screen 02.07.57 # eye candy. 02.08.01 Quit midkay ("Leaving") 02.08.01 # exactly 02.08.57 # I suppose, to me, it just seems to busy the screen 02.10.09 # for some EQ are useless (like me) but still I want rockbox to have it. 02.10.11 # to me, the peak meter is the worst busy thing on the wps 02.10.21 # I agree 02.10.37 # I like everything rather minimal. 02.10.56 # well the beauty of the wps is you can kill what you don't like 02.11.38 # the WPS subject is unique 02.11.56 # I haven't seen anything like this even in PC audio players 02.12.04 # me neither 02.12.07 # foobar's tagz 02.12.12 # it's my favorite part of rockbox right now 02.12.40 # though i would love to have some color options like the h300 series do 02.12.53 # i'm dying for a white on black wps 02.13.38 # aaronfg: Just edit firmware/export/lcd.h and change the LCD_DEFAULT_FG and LCD_DEFAULT_BG definitions 02.14.11 # well, not globally. just more of an option on a per wps basis 02.15.03 # Then I'm sure there's a patch around to do that. 02.15.07 # it would be nice to have some say, a nighttime friendly wps with the inverted colors, or any other color on black/navy blue to lessen eye strain at night 02.15.27 # there probably is. which is why i asked about compiling. I may have to go that route to get it 02.15.27 # :) 02.16.34 # question with thew patches though, do they not play friendly with the bleeding edge builds? how do you go about that? is it mroe of like, updating my source to the latest, and the patch stays? 02.17.36 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.18.07 # linuxstb: I had a crazy idea last night. Currently all the patches are submitted in source and are applied once you compile them. But when a stable realese comes for the new targets those that submit a patch could make a binary patch (of course the patch would be valid only for 1 specific version) 02.18.49 # but.... 02.18.54 # the only 1 patch at a time 02.18.59 # ^then 02.19.40 # no stupid idea in the end :( 02.20.32 # aaronfg: That's where CVS helps you. 02.21.21 # XavierGr: We just need to employ someone to work full-time reviewing and committing the patches. 02.22.07 # too much work for one guy 02.22.11 # too many patches 02.22.32 # and each patch must be watched very well before commited 02.23.48 # * linuxstb commits a potentially high scoring build system change... 02.30.50 Quit xmixahlx ("blah blah blah") 02.31.30 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@24.143.70.99) 02.34.36 Join Furious_G [0] (n=none@dhcp165152.reynolds.fsu.edu) 02.34.36 Quit Fuiou5 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.39.19 Quit Kohlrabi ("Fast alle Menschen sind Regenwürmer") 02.42.24 Quit lostlogic ("leaving") 02.44.23 Join webguest73 [0] (n=0cad6dbb@labb.contactor.se) 02.51.48 Quit DreamTactix291 () 02.52.12 Join lostlogic [0] (n=lostlogi@node-4024215a.mdw.onnet.us.uu.net) 02.52.53 Part lostlogic 02.53.29 Join lostlogic [0] (n=lostlogi@node-4024215a.mdw.onnet.us.uu.net) 02.59.29 # * RotAtoR whistles 02.59.43 # linuxstb: is that a new high score? ;) 03.00.01 # I don't want to look..... 03.00.13 # wow 03.00.14 # Ouch... 03.00.41 # Time for bed. Goodnight all. 03.00.42 # you must have made an effort for that :) 03.00.45 # hahaha 03.01.49 # Guess there's a little more work to do. 03.03.12 # is there any reason why the cvs pages in the wiki who 2 different servers? 03.03.16 # one is the rockbox.org 03.03.22 # other is some haxx site 03.03.30 # aaronfg: they're both the same site 03.03.34 # ah 03.03.51 # the rockbox.org site was owned by someone else but then given to the rockbox team 03.04.02 # maybe I'll update the wiki to reflect that. in case someone else gets confused as well 03.04.04 # so some documentation refers to haxx.se 03.04.15 Join thegeek_ [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 03.04.49 Join Xerion_ [0] (i=xerion@zorgash.student.utwente.nl) 03.05.55 # Can somebody else try and compile the current CVS? It's working fine for me, but is broken on the build server... 03.06.37 # i will test 03.06.39 # linuxstb: could be a parallel build issue that is therefore not consistently appearing? 03.06.47 Quit Xerion (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.06.47 Nick Xerion_ is now known as Xerion (i=xerion@zorgash.student.utwente.nl) 03.06.57 # ermh, that's a lot of break. 03.07.27 # lostlogic you should worry... :D 03.07.43 # Maybe. Do you know what options are used on the server? 03.07.43 # breaks here. 03.08.18 # The problem is I need the bitmap libraries building before the dependencies file is created. 03.08.26 # wow, linuxstb, what did you put there? 03.08.34 # I am trying to update and it takes for ages 03.08.42 # oh okay done 03.09.41 # lostlogic: I can't break it..... 03.09.44 # no, breaks here too. 03.10.05 # Maybe I forgot to commit something... 03.10.25 # I did... 03.10.27 # you must have, because it breaks even without -j here 03.10.49 # what's exactly make -j? 03.10.58 # Try updating now. 03.11.00 Quit mikearthur (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.11.01 # :( having it buidl bitmaplibs as a dep of depfile is kinda ugly though because then it builds bitmaps before a clean too... but I can' tthink of a better solution ATM 03.11.40 # looks to work now at least it iddn't die fast 03.11.41 # Yes, we need to fix that. 03.11.47 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-149-149-154.bna.bellsouth.net) 03.12.23 # linuxstb: probably just use a simpler clean target that does "rm -r apps firmware *.[ao]" or similar 03.12.28 # builds fine now on make -j10 03.13.59 # lostlogic: you were sort of discussing this earlier. Does Rockbox currently shut down nicely on low battery? Like if I left the player on for 12 hours, would hardware eventually run out of juice or would software shut it down? 03.14.57 Quit midkay ("Leaving") 03.15.02 # pyro: I believe software shuts down, but not nicely -- it can't save first because it's too low... but don't quote me on that -- it may be a hardware shutdown that happens first on a disk spin attempt 03.15.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.15.29 Join San [0] (n=test@213-202-151-67.bas503.dsl.esat.net) 03.16.04 # XavierGr: make -j is make's job server meaning make will run more than one compile process at a time and the optional number following it is the job limit -- omitting the number is infinite jobs (which can be a Bad Thing (TM) on large projects) 03.16.35 Join ismo_ [0] (i=laitinei@huippu.net) 03.18.31 # i'm trying to buils the sim, and it complained about not having the "UI-ipodvideo.bmp" file 03.18.36 # i just added that bmp manually 03.18.44 # but the make still gives an error 03.18.49 # any ideas? 03.19.26 Quit darkless (Client Quit) 03.19.41 Quit ismo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.20.02 # Where did you put the bmp file? 03.20.42 # rockbox\uisimulator\win32 03.20.55 # Are you building the SDL or win32 sim? 03.20.57 Quit thegeek (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.21.29 # well, i'm using my wife's winxp box here, so win32 03.21.44 # win32 is broken 03.21.47 # try SDL 03.21.52 # I mean, what option did you choose after "s" for simulator? 03.21.57 # (in Windows) 03.22.48 # one sec, adding the bmp to the sdl folder is working.... 03.23.42 # ok, new error. buit i'll start again with the configure 03.24.02 # chose 15 (ipod video, 03.24.08 # S for simulator 03.24.11 # Did you download using CVS? 03.24.14 # yeah 03.24.41 # Type "cvs update" from your rockbox-devel directory - I broke CVS about half an hour ago, but it's fixed now. 03.25.31 # ok, just updated 03.26.04 # OK, it should work now. 03.26.28 # so i should be runnign the builds from inside the rockbox-devel dir, not the rockbox? 03.26.56 # Yes, but I don't think it matters any more. 03.27.09 # ok, i'm running the configure 03.27.19 # after i choose S for simulator 03.27.36 # i only get "Build (S)DL version? (S)" 03.27.37 Quit perpleXa (No route to host) 03.27.46 # so.... just type S? 03.27.50 # Yes - that's the only one that works now. 03.27.51 # yeah 03.28.07 # ok, make created 03.28.10 # i'm runniung make now 03.31.14 Part moozooh 03.31.17 Join dropandho [0] (n=dropandh@cpe-24-193-36-91.nyc.res.rr.com) 03.31.37 # hey all! 03.32.00 # ok, make finished 03.32.00 # any1 look into the deal with the forums? 03.32.20 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.32.40 # is it still "make zip" now for the sim? 03.32.42 # aaronfg: Don't forget "make install" 03.32.46 # ah 03.32.47 # ok 03.33.08 # "installing a full setup in your archos dir" 03.33.35 # ok 03.33.47 # where's this "archos" dir at? 03.34.10 # in the build folder, i see 03.34.12 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.34.24 # now what, rockboxui.exe? 03.34.35 # is your .rockbox folder in archos? 03.34.43 # yeah 03.34.50 # then yes 03.35.04 # seems i'm missing sdl.dll 03.35.29 # did you build in cygwin? 03.35.34 # yeah 03.35.35 # don't double click it 03.35.40 # ah 03.35.43 # XavierGr: I do... 03.35.45 # "run rockboxui.exe" 03.35.57 # from cygwin 03.36.00 Join moozooh [0] (n=moozooh@87.240.1.66) 03.36.06 # does any1 know how to get rid of the glue from the back of the stickers ont he h300? 03.36.09 # well, actually that was when I used win32 builds... never mind. 03.36.16 # or take the sdl.dll and put it in your windows folder. 03.36.17 # ok! 03.36.18 # JdGordon: tried alcohol? 03.36.20 # there it is 03.36.38 # but i don't see the ipod video bitmap i had 03.36.40 # BHSPitLappy: waste good alcohol?? 03.36.44 # crazy man.. 03.36.50 # aaronfg 03.36.51 # JdGordon: the bad alcohol. :P 03.36.56 # ill see if i can find an alco swab thingy 03.36.57 # aaronfg: use the "--background" commandline option 03.37.02 # yes 03.37.15 Join ismo [0] (i=laitinei@huippu.net) 03.37.23 # or zoom x (x = int) 03.37.36 # (without background just to zoom in the screen) 03.38.08 # The 5g's LCD doesn't need much zoom... 03.38.16 Quit dropandho () 03.39.07 # so "run rockboxui.exe --background [path here]"? 03.39.08 # the alcohol wont eat the plastic will it? i know terps wil... 03.39.47 # aaronfg: no path needed 03.40.00 Quit ismo_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.40.07 # hmm. it still runs without the bg 03.40.47 Quit moozooh (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.41.14 # You may need to edit uisimulator/sdl/uisdl.h to adjust the configuration for the 5g. 03.41.29 # e.g. UI_WIDTH and UI_HEIGHT should be the size of your bitmap 03.41.51 # (they are currently set to 320 x 240 - the size of the LCD). 03.42.15 # so if i set it to the w/h of the bmp of thr 5g i have, it'll work fine? 03.42.31 # how will it know to use the screen aread of the bmp as the screen though? 03.42.44 # UI_LCD_POSX and UI_LCD_POSY 03.43.13 # cool 03.43.24 # do i need to recompile this again then 03.43.24 # ? 03.43.29 # yes. 03.43.32 # :( 03.43.33 # ok 03.43.52 # But it will only recompile the parts that have changed - so it should be quick. 03.47.56 # just redo the make install part? 03.52.27 # ok, perfect 03.52.28 # i got it now 03.54.23 Join webguest07 [0] (n=5467c440@labb.contactor.se) 03.55.56 Quit webguest07 (Client Quit) 03.58.41 # is there a guide to opening the h300?? i cant get the damn thing open 03.59.26 Quit `3nergy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.00.53 # gameboy on 5G is pretty awesome... 04.17.33 # JdGordon: Your probably not using the right tools. I think you need a hammer 04.18.03 # JdGordon: but seriously, I remember seeing something for replacing the battery at misticriver, but have no links 04.18.14 # got it open 04.18.59 # what are you opening it for? 04.19.29 # * JdGordon wanted to get rid of the checkboxes plastic thing under the cover to show the elctronics... didnt realise the buttons and screen protectro are stuck to it tho :'( 04.20.06 Join macneib [0] (n=macneib@CPE00c049e449b5-CM000039dc0c5d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 04.20.12 # Hello hello hello 04.20.41 # I have a question about an audio codec and rockbox 04.21.38 # i read that linuxstb managed to write a bit of code for a wolfson WM8983 04.21.50 # on a 5G ipod 04.23.58 Quit drumrboy () 04.24.35 # is this true? 04.33.18 Join Sinbios [0] (n=Sinbios@toronto-HSE-ppp4012824.sympatico.ca) 04.36.33 Join Shadowarrior13 [0] (i=Shadowar@ip68-3-160-223.ph.ph.cox.net) 04.58.46 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@124.60.15.86) 04.59.00 # hohoho 05.01.57 # You ho. 05.02.03 # ^_^ 05.03.49 Join Rob2222_ [0] (n=Miranda@ACB75CD2.ipt.aol.com) 05.07.37 Join jackinabox^ [0] (i=jackinab@CPE-147-10-240-254.wa.bigpond.net.au) 05.07.39 # can someone help me with applying a patch? 05.07.41 # hi all 05.09.33 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-217-89.dsl.pipex.com) 05.12.39 # aaronfg: Perhaps, this? - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToCompiling#Adding_Patches 05.15.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.16.12 Join San [0] (n=test@213-202-151-67.bas503.dsl.esat.net) 05.16.36 # hey san, have u still got hte jpegs u used for the in flames and ratm in skins? 05.18.20 # how would i go about debugging the buttons on an ipod ? 05.19.28 # Jungti1234: I got it figured out, thanks 05.19.55 # can you play music from the simulator? 05.20.07 # I'm not able to browse anything 05.20.15 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05.21.40 # Ǥ 05.21.42 # hm.. 05.22.27 # i just applied this patch here: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1434758&group_id=44306&atid=439120 05.22.29 Quit imphasing (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.22.31 # it's a wps patch 05.22.39 # and i wanted to test it in the sim first 05.22.45 Join DT291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-149-149-154.bna.bellsouth.net) 05.22.47 # btu i can't seem to play anything in the sim 05.23.05 Join imphasing [0] (n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net) 05.23.14 # ah.. 05.24.12 # Put all musics in 'Archos' folder. 05.25.37 # uyp 05.25.37 # did that 05.25.43 # i have one directory 05.25.48 # and the .rockbox folder 05.26.04 # ah 05.26.06 # had to reastart the sim 05.26.10 # duhhhh 05.26.14 # hehe 05.26.14 # it's late 05.26.17 # i must be tired 05.26.30 Quit DreamTactix291 (Nick collision from services.) 05.26.38 Nick DT291 is now known as DreamTactix291 (n=DreamTac@adsl-149-149-154.bna.bellsouth.net) 05.27.01 # guy, i d/loaded a colour wps skin for my H340 yesterday, can get the rest of the display fine but can't get the colour graphic to show up, any ideas?? 05.27.31 # background image? 05.27.34 # or backdrop 05.27.36 # yeah 05.27.46 # have you checked the wps file? 05.27.47 # bakground image 05.27.57 # what's the %X line say 05.28.02 # make sure you have that image 05.28.22 # yeah, ps file works fine coz the rest of the screen is as per the wps i d/loaded 05.28.38 # %X|filename.bmp| 05.29.22 # as long as you have the bmp that's defined int he wps under %X|filename.bmp| you should be fine 05.30.51 Join |Josh| [0] (i=user@unaffiliated/josh/x-000000001) 05.32.10 # yeah, the Dark Aqua BD file is in the player in the \.rockbox\themes\backdrops 05.33.42 # backdrop and background are two different things 05.34.04 # ok 05.34.04 # backdrop is what is behind the menus and or WPS without custom bg screens 05.34.16 # background is in that wps's folder 05.34.23 # and is defined in the wps file itself 05.34.35 # with %X|filename.bmp| 05.35.03 # so for it to show in the wps it needs to be in the backgrounds folder? 05.35.33 # no 05.36.01 # well, question, did the thing you downloaded come with a theme file? 05.36.07 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.36.11 # yes 05.36.17 # did you run it? 05.36.21 # yes 05.36.46 # did the bg show up on your menus then? 05.37.19 # no, but the .bmp file is not in the themes folder 05.40.13 # it shouldn't be 05.40.20 # ok 05.40.29 Quit imphasing (Remote closed the connection) 05.40.41 # you should look over this page: 05.40.41 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS 05.40.53 # ok, will do 05.40.54 # specifically this 05.40.55 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS#Using_images 05.41.05 Join imphasing [0] (n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net) 05.41.23 Quit webguest73 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 05.51.27 # anyone able to walk me through adding button support for ipod minis ? 05.51.59 # i notice the hold button works with IPOD_4G_PAD, but nothing else.. 05.57.05 Quit Shadowarrior13 () 05.57.43 Join Arrogant [0] (i=Arrogant@107.orlando-09-10rs.fl.dial-access.att.net) 06.02.51 Part |Josh| 06.10.32 # is there a way to set a width for a line of text on the WPS? 06.10.53 # for instance, scrolling the song title within 120 pixels or so? 06.13.27 # * jackinabox^ throws hands in air 06.13.32 # i give up 06.13.53 # jackinabox, what's the url to the wps you downloaded? 06.14.38 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@24.143.70.99) 06.14.47 Join Paragon_ [0] (i=Arrogant@186.orlando-09-10rs.fl.dial-access.att.net) 06.15.51 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsGallery 06.17.23 # yeah.....but what one 06.17.57 # elephant 2.0 06.18.24 Quit imphasing (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.18.24 Quit Arrogant (Nick collision from services.) 06.18.31 Nick Paragon_ is now known as Arrogant (i=Arrogant@186.orlando-09-10rs.fl.dial-access.att.net) 06.23.28 # sorry, i stuffed up...was Dark Aqua, posted by Philip 0729 at http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=35852&page=4 06.31.20 Join psycho_maniac [0] (n=cfe6da55@labb.contactor.se) 06.32.36 # hello all 06.33.24 Quit macneib () 06.34.19 Quit aaronfg ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 06.41.17 # hello all 06.41.27 # why hello there.. 06.41.42 # how are you 06.41.56 # good, you? 06.42.06 # pretty good. 06.42.23 # good to hear :) 06.42.52 # yes. you own a rockboxed mp3 player? 06.43.12 # archos recorder, ipod 5g.. you? 06.43.40 # currently only a h120, but looking for another. you say you have a ipod 55 right? 06.44.15 # 5g* 06.44.33 # yep 06.44.52 # that the 60 gig version? 06.45.02 # yessir :) 06.45.07 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 06.45.33 # hmm. the reason why i ask is im considering getting one of those... either that or the h340 06.46.13 # cool.. i've never messed with the irivers, but the 5g is really nice 06.46.29 Join Lost-ash [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-123-51.VIC.netspace.net.au) 06.46.34 # looked at how to install rockbox on the ipod and looked kinda hard.. is it? 06.46.58 # iPod installation is pretty simple. It's three steps, really. 06.47.07 # no, only takes a few minutes.. i was earlier considering writing a script for installation, actually, maybe i will. and you can always come here for help.. 06.47.46 # ok hers a question what is the difference between the iriver h340s screen and the ipod 5g? 06.47.59 # iriver's is smaller.. 06.48.11 # how much smaller? 06.48.24 # 220x something for the iriver. 320x240 for the ipod.. 06.48.43 # oh wow so more info on the screen 06.48.45 # 220x165? 06.48.55 # i'm pretty sure that's it 06.49.28 # yeah, anyways.. my 5g's screen is very clear 06.49.33 # i have the h120 and youd think im godo with that right? wrong i love the 24bit color wps's 06.49.50 # haha. what a piece of crap! send it to me!! ;) 06.50.05 # what wouldyou do with it? 06.50.43 # just kidding.. um, well, haha. develop.. yeeaahhh...... develop... >:D 06.50.55 Quit LedFloyd () 06.51.30 # haha 06.52.29 # cool.. i've never messed with the irivers, but the 5g is really nice (where you talking about the stock firmware?) 06.53.06 # mostly, since rockbox isn't quite "there" yet for the ipods (5g) at least - but getting very close very quickly :) 06.53.12 Quit ashridah (Nick collision from services.) 06.53.16 Nick Lost-ash is now known as ashridah (i=ashridah@220-253-123-51.VIC.netspace.net.au) 06.53.48 # depends on what you look for.. the clean, simple, intuitive apple stock interface is pretty nice.. it "just works" :) 06.53.49 # what are the known bugs for rockbox on the ipod? 06.54.19 Quit Jungti1234 () 06.54.39 # well the only reason id get the ipod is for rockbox (i really dont like apple ipod interface uch ) 06.54.50 # not so much bugs as missing features.. audio support was just added recently, for example. the interface/LCD driver isn't extremely fast yet, but still quite usable.. lots of plugins run in a smaller size.. 06.55.31 # no video playback.. although for both the irivers and the ipods, software audio support = ogg, flac, wav playback 06.55.45 # hmmm that kinda sucks. how well does audio play on rockbox for the ipod? 06.55.51 # midkay: 220x176, by the way 06.56.28 # psycho_maniac, to be honest i haven't extensively tested it. they just fixed a rather major bug today related to sound playback (fixed stereo sound) so it should be sounding great now.. 06.56.31 # i haven't tested it yet. 06.56.35 # another reason id get the 5g ipod is that it comes in black. 06.56.58 # Paul_The_Nerd, really? i see 220x165 and 220x176 both all over.. 06.57.05 # is the H320 smaller than the H340 LCD or something? 06.57.14 # No 06.57.16 Quit TCK ("well, if you say so.") 06.57.37 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS#LCD_Screen_Sizes 06.58.25 # ah, 220x176 according to iriver.. well, PC magazine's got it all wrong :) 06.58.37 # psycho_maniac, yes, black is nice, i've got a black model :) 06.58.46 # very scratchable though.. 06.59.32 # psycho_maniac: In terms of audio playback, it's very close to equally supported on the iPods as the iRivers. The 5Gs do experience a little more difficulty because their screen is still slower. I'd honestly suggest a 4G of the same size if you can find it. It'd probably be cheaper too. As for bugs, the only definite one at the moment is the fact that the battery meter hasn't been enabled yet, so you don't know how much charge you 06.59.34 # that was mostly the reason i got the h120. what color is the backlight 07.00.12 # psycho_maniac, it's not really a color, since the LCD is color. it just lights up. :) 07.00.19 # On color iPods the backlight is just white. 07.00.20 # "white", i guess.. 07.00.38 # or a very bright black. :) 07.00.52 # i was gonna guess white.. 07.02.29 # is there a problem with the rockbox forums? 07.03.22 # is there a rgbunpack macro? or a simple way to get the rgb values back from LCD_RGBPACK ? 07.04.13 # Paul_The_Nerd: so, how long did it play? 07.05.38 # preglow: Sadly, I missed when it ended. Still less than 10 hours, but I'm not sure how much less. I had to run out and forgot to bring it along. 07.07.43 Join ModernExecutive [0] (n=ModExec@pool-70-18-144-65.norf.east.verizon.net) 07.07.53 # beh 07.08.13 # how long does a nano go for with retailos anyway? 07.08.20 Part ModernExecutive 07.08.22 # It's *supposed* to go "optimally" 14 hours 07.08.25 # heh retailos 07.09.01 # Under the same conditions as I ran this flac test (replaygain enabled, rockbox_default WPS, no backdrop etc) it was 7hrs 50 minutes before the CPU speed changing was in. 07.09.16 # woah 07.09.26 # rockbox now scales the cpu clock rate on demand? 07.09.55 # damn, rockbox is sure getting feature rich 07.10.43 Quit psycho_maniac ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 07.10.45 # warewolf: It's done that on the iRivers for a while. It's more of a "boost" where it runs at a slower speed, and when necessary boosts for short periods to fill a buffer, or whatnot 07.11.48 # nice 07.11.56 # I'm beginning to be glad that I have a h340 :) 07.12.04 # I just downloaded an ipod-esque 24bit theme 07.12.07 # niiiiiiiiiiiice 07.12.34 Join psycho_maniac [0] (n=cfe6da55@labb.contactor.se) 07.12.47 # I realised something lately about open source "products" (stuff like rockbox) 07.13.02 Quit arf-arf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.13.14 # with open source products like this, the motivation is to improve the release based on demand just to make it better 07.13.50 # with closed source pay-for products, the motivation is to get cash, not to make the product better 07.14.04 # * warewolf thinks he likes FL/OSS better :) 07.14.39 # Hehehe 07.15.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.16.32 # Also, in a bang for your buck ratio, at an average cost of $0 (or your localised equivalent) you get a very good percentage. ;-) 07.16.46 # oh hell yeah 07.16.48 Join San [0] (n=test@213-202-151-67.bas503.dsl.esat.net) 07.16.59 # in all this time iriver has produced updates to their firmware 07.17.10 # in any of the releases have they actually added _new_ features? no. 07.17.24 # you're forgetting lyrics support... 07.17.25 # Didn't they add Study Mode that one time, on H120/140? 07.17.27 # they'd wnat you to buy the next model 07.17.41 # what the hell is Study Mode? 07.17.47 # I never understood that mode 07.17.49 # wtf is it for 07.17.49 # wtf is study mnode?? 07.18.20 # I honestly don't know. I never understood what it was for, but it was an added option of some sort 07.18.42 # i think its if you fastfoward for a certin amount of time then it fast fowards the min. instead of seconds 07.19.27 # heh 07.19.32 # and where the hell is that documented? 07.20.11 # regardless 07.20.15 # rockbox is bettah 07.20.26 # here http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=2583 07.21.13 # No 07.21.15 # That's what it was 07.21.21 Join `3nergy [0] (n=3nergy@techgaming.net) 07.21.23 # Study mode changes "Next track" to "Skip forward X amount of time" 07.21.35 # So you could set it to 1 minute, and ever "tap right hopped one minute forward 07.21.40 # every 07.21.44 # well i was sorta right 07.22.21 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 07.22.27 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-123-51.VIC.netspace.net.au) 07.22.31 # I just remembered, I'd used it for audio books because normal seeking was so slow. 07.22.42 # Long ago 07.23.04 # aahhh... *useless* :p 07.24.25 # also they added a feature to remove gaps from songs and the feature works so well 07.24.38 # no way 07.24.43 # they added gapless playback? 07.24.45 # No 07.24.49 # They added "remove gaps" 07.24.49 # so my trance mp3 cds play right? 07.24.55 # ... 07.25.02 # It *tried* to remove trailing silence. Notice the emphasis. 07.25.21 # but .. there ... is .. no .. trailing ... silence? 07.25.23 Quit perl|fbi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.25.32 # thats what i ment. havnt used the stock firmware in so long dont remember the features they added or named.. 07.26.08 # Hehehe 07.26.29 # Which is why it always baffles me when people go *back* to it for cosmetic reasons. 07.26.42 Join perldiver [0] (n=say@cpe-66-65-89-236.nyc.res.rr.com) 07.26.55 # :'( my inskin looks like some1 spilt milk all over my h300 :D 07.27.15 # I keep my h340 in its hard case 07.27.18 # i used the burning mokl pic from the back of the RATM cd... 07.27.25 # yeah i just went back to it to try out the study mode feature.. 07.28.11 # anybody like the beep that was added in rockbox? 07.28.38 # pyro- actually, I liked that about the iriver firmware, where does RB beep now? 07.28.47 # also 07.29.09 # I *really* liked the tap->hold to skip forward a directory on FF in iriver 07.29.32 # i think same as iriver...if im not mistaken 07.29.59 # main menu>general settings>playback>beep volume 07.30.58 # BHSPitLappy: u wanted the colour wigdet thingy right? 07.31.19 Join B4gder [0] (n=daniel@static-213-115-255-230.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se) 07.32.53 Quit psycho_maniac ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 07.35.29 Quit jackinabox^ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.35.49 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.36.33 # ive added 2 values to the settings struct.. do i ahve to fiddle with anything so they get loaded/saved correctly on shutdown? 07.37.15 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ipa187.11.tellas.gr) 07.39.50 # morning ;) 07.41.13 # woo, forums 07.41.51 # JdGordon yep 07.42.05 # ah, depends 07.42.12 # there is apply_settings in settings.c 07.42.56 # JdGordon but if you use these vars directly, there's nothing u should do about loading/saving them 07.44.56 # hmm... ive added then to apply_settings and to hd_bits[]... settings still doesnt get saved on shtdown... 07.45.02 # or reloaded... 07.46.41 # JdGordon can i see the code ? 07.46.54 # which part? 07.46.59 # the diff part :) 07.47.49 # the user_settings struct is loaded/saved directly from/to the disk (on irivers) 07.48.58 # ok, diffing.. 1 sec 07.49.04 # that is, you don't have to do anything for these values to get loaded/saved 07.50.22 # http://users.monash.edu.au/~jdgor1/rb/colour.diff 07.50.24 # which reminds 07.50.25 # +me 07.50.50 # anyone think they'd be able to help me port the ipl ipod mini button code? 07.50.55 # when/will rockbox support the eeprom in the irivers for settings? 07.52.48 # never, probably 07.52.51 # btw 07.52.53 # it's not big enough for our settings 07.52.56 # JdGordon do you change the global.settings ? 07.53.01 # someone really needs to update the NODO.txt file 07.53.02 # Q3. Crossfade between tracks! 07.53.02 # A3. Crossfading would require two mp3 decoders, and we only have one. This 07.53.02 DBUG Enqueued KICK warewolf 07.53.02 # is not possible. 07.53.06 # when changing the color ? 07.53.11 # especially since that has been implemented :) 07.53.30 # Bg3r: ye, in setting_menu.c 07.53.48 # warewolf: The nodo is mostly related to the archos players from the looks of it. 07.53.52 # ah, yes, i saw it ... 07.53.57 # ah 07.55.04 Join jackinabox^ [0] (i=jackinab@CPE-147-10-240-254.wa.bigpond.net.au) 07.55.12 # hi all (again) 07.56.06 # Bg3r: see anything odd in the patch? 07.56.44 # nothing obvious ... 07.56.47 # applying it 07.56.49 # atm 07.57.42 # your gonna need http://users.monash.edu.au/~jdgor1/rb/colour_picker.c in apps/gui 07.57.48 # its not in the diff 07.57.52 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 07.59.33 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-80-141.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr) 07.59.49 # k 08.00.33 # oh 08.00.39 # where the hell is rockboy for h300! 08.00.54 # JdGordon btw, do you really need 32bits for each color ? 08.01.10 # no... 08.01.27 # 16/18 really.. but its stored as an int.. 08.01.49 # Why 18? 08.02.09 # for the lcd with 18bit colour 08.02.20 # I thought they were still run in 16-bit anyway 08.02.26 # they are 08.04.18 # at least all current targets are 08.06.24 # JdGordon i don't see anything obvious :( 08.06.24 # warewolf: uh, it should be there so far as i know 08.06.43 # ok, thanx 08.06.53 # i can't believe i can't suss out this b/ground and b/drop change, it's driving me nuts!! 08.07.32 # warewolf: It's a viewer. You put a rom on the player, you play it like a song, and rockboy launches 08.07.48 # is settings_apply called when rb first starts? (after the settings are reloaded..) 08.08.34 # oh 08.08.42 # I thought it was a plugin 08.08.51 # it is 08.08.59 # JdGordon apps/main.c:163 08.09.01 # but it is a plugin serving as a "viewer" 08.09.20 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ViewerPlugin 08.09.58 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 08.09.58 # * warewolf blinks 08.10.07 # I actually have no gb/gbc roms. 08.10.13 # I thought I did 08.10.33 # warewolf: Plugins and viewers are really the same thing. Viewer is generally a category of plugin that is launched when you click on certain types of files. 08.10.51 # I see 08.11.40 # and its parameter points to the filename u've launched with 08.13.21 # hehe 08.13.24 # grep -r -i "color" apps/ | wc -l 08.13.24 # 252 08.13.28 # linuxstb certainly scored big this night 08.13.31 # grep -r -i "colour" apps/ | wc -l 08.13.32 # 81 08.13.36 # haha 08.13.57 # so more americans than english speaking coders :p 08.14.00 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.14.11 # I'm from the US and I still spell it colour. 08.14.18 # grrrrr!!!! stupid bloody thing!! 08.14.25 # * Bg3r is from eu and still writes it color :D 08.14.33 # holy crap. apple is nuts. 08.14.40 # hot damn 08.14.46 # no, apple is fruit. 08.14.48 # 5160, not too shabby 08.15.05 # brb 08.15.08 # a free 20" imac, _ten_ 60gb ipods and a $10,000 itunes music store gift card all free to the guy who buys the 1 millionth song off their music store. 08.15.11 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.15.35 # Hahaha 08.15.41 # they have a running counter of purchased songs.. it's currently about 3 to 5 per second.. i'd love to see it at 999,998,000.. 08.15.49 # you mean for the guy who buys 1 million songs? ;-] 08.15.50 # and watch it fly up like 2,000 songs a second with people trying to get that.. 08.16.00 # sorry, billionth. 08.16.01 # :) 08.16.08 # Hehehe 08.16.15 # almost 1 billion sales from their store.. 08.16.22 # Still got 5 million to go. 08.16.27 # yep. 08.16.28 # 5.5 really 08.16.43 # When it gets down to like, 1000 left, there's gonna be a lot of sales. 08.16.44 # a free 4gb nano to the purchasers of every 100,000th until 1 billion 08.16.55 # i also want to see it jump by like 50 a second on the 100,000s :) 08.17.05 Quit RotAtoR ("zzzzzzz") 08.17.08 # hey, it's coming up. http://www.apple.com/itunes/1billion/ 08.17.13 # counter at upper right.. yay, let's watch. :) 08.17.15 # its not like giving away those things cost them very much 08.17.22 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@c220-239-137-122.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 08.17.25 # nah, but the grand prize is insane IMO.. 08.17.26 # yeah 08.17.36 # Actually, I like the idea of having a scholarship out there in my name 08.17.46 # everybody wants it, why not spend a buck on a song with the chance of winning thousands worth of ipods and downloads.. :) 08.18.00 # Because if I didn't win, I'm out $1 08.18.05 # hahaha 08.18.07 # hehe 08.18.11 Join DJ_Dooms_Day [0] (n=DJDD@220-245-186-182.static.tpgi.com.au) 08.18.13 # and 08.18.14 # that's why you'll never win anything.. :) 08.18.19 # I'd get a silly AAC tune 08.18.27 # A DRM wrapped AAC tune 08.18.41 # haha 08.18.45 # hum. 08.18.54 # *rubs hands waiting to reach 994,500,000 08.18.54 # sqrxz doesn't work under rockboy :/ 08.19.26 # Also, what would I do with a $10,000 iTunes gift card? 08.19.33 # haha. SELL IT! 08.19.36 # for $9,999. 08.19.37 # yep!!!:) 08.19.40 # heh 08.19.42 # a _steal_ if i ever saw one. 08.19.42 # :) 08.19.44 # Hah 08.19.46 # $5000 is enough 08.20.08 # I'd probably just ebay it with a minimum of however much I'll need to cover taxes on the prizes. 08.20.18 # exactly why wod you want TEN 60GB ipods?? 08.20.27 # To fill with $10,000 worth of songs? 08.20.29 # to ebay them away too ;-) 08.20.43 # jackinabox^, to sell? give away if you're unbelievably generous? destroy? donate to rockbox? the possibilities are ENDLESS! 08.20.53 # Though isn't 4GB "1000" songs? So, 40gb = 10,000, so one 60gb should be enough by their math, no? 08.21.12 # 10 is just plain bloody excessive! 08.21.20 # Paul_The_Nerd, on my 60gb box it says "15,000 songs".. :) 08.21.22 # JdGordon any progress ? 08.21.27 # jackinabox^, exactly. it'd be a fun prize to win. :) 08.21.31 # jackinabox^: I would assume that is exactly the point of it 08.21.45 # 994, 495,000 and counting 08.21.51 # no, tyring to fix my uini timetable... the bloody system didnt put me in any tute/prac groups AND I CANT FUCKING LOGIN TO FIX IT :'( 08.22.03 # indeed and yet i'm still notgoing to attempt it :) 08.22.15 # jackinabox^, haha :) 08.22.27 # i'm just waiting to see the HUGE jump in purchases at the 100k mark :) 08.22.43 # What does "Good for any media type" mean on those gift cards? 08.22.49 # Oh, videos too, forgot 08.23.10 # 994,496,000 and counting... :) 08.23.53 # This song count calculation done by the dap manufacturers is silly 08.24.02 # amen 08.24.03 # whoa. 08.24.07 # it's way up there.. 08.24.12 # midkay okay, i see u're looking at it, so, please, tell me when there are only left 1000 to the 1 000 000 000 08.24.18 # haha. 08.24.22 # it just jumped majorly. 08.24.25 # almost to 994,500 08.24.27 # k 08.24.33 # no songer longer than 4 minutes and 64kbps WMA used 08.24.40 # seen on several of them 08.24.57 # Who will manage to fit one song in <4MB with decent quality? Apart from that it depends on the song length too 08.25.10 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-60-28.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) 08.25.19 # * amiconn has many tracks on his players which are way longer than 4 min 08.25.58 # I have a little over 6000 songs on 40GB 08.26.09 # wtf!?! 08.26.15 # amiconn but if all other dap manifacturers calculate it this way and you write "holds up to 500 songs" instead of "holds up to 1000" ... 08.26.23 # i just watched it flip over to 994,500,000. the rate didn't change at _all_. 08.26.24 # which one will the regular user choose ? 08.26.31 # darn naive loser customers.. 08.26.31 # amiconn: But the average consumer has too much difficulty even with "330 hours of music at Xkbps" and waaaay too much with Xgb. 08.27.10 # midkay: It's probably quite delayed, and an approximation based on the rate over the last 15 seconds or something. I doubt the updating display shows the exact real number. 08.27.14 # midkay: and you seriously believe they update that rate with _real_ numbers all the time? 08.27.30 # haha. well, now that you MENTION IT! 08.27.43 # i'm such a loser. 08.28.00 # I would assume some kind of distributed system for that large load of payments/selling 08.28.10 # and then it is hard to have real-time data on a per-second basis 08.28.22 # more than per-second.. 08.28.22 # JdGordon are you reading from general_settings.[bg|fg]_colour and writing to them in the same bit format ? 08.28.32 # like three-times-per-second.. yeah. makes sense. 08.28.34 # ye 08.28.52 # its saved/loaded as LCD_RGBPACK()'ed number 08.29.03 # k :( 08.29.12 # then i don't see anything wrong with your code :( 08.29.40 # maybe the colour is being set somewhere after?? im stressing over my uni times so ill look later 08.30.10 # maybe .. 08.30.55 # u're only doing your timetable now?? don't you go back next week too? 08.31.07 # ye 08.31.13 # http://wdirect.apple.com/itunes/1billion/counter1billion.js 08.31.14 # timetable allocation system reopend today 08.31.21 # mine had to be finalised months ago 08.31.35 # which uni u at? 08.31.43 # ECU, perth 08.31.53 # ah ok 08.33.19 Join needleboy [0] (n=needlebo@85-250-221-112.bb.netvision.net.il) 08.37.33 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.41.44 # silly q.. does the sdl sim need sdl installed? 08.42.00 # yes it does 08.44.26 # umm.. by install.. is it just copy sdl.dll to a folder? 08.44.48 # install the cygwin package as the wiki page describes 08.45.46 # JdGordon: It's just important sdl.dll is in the path somewhere if you're planning on just double clicking the .exe in windows. 08.46.02 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-22-79.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 08.48.31 Quit Rob2222_ () 08.51.08 # is anyone here familar with, like, structs inside structs? 08.51.15 Quit erus` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.51.27 Join perpleXa [0] (i=perpleXa@dialin-145-254-186-143.pools.arcor-ip.net) 08.51.34 Quit Arrogant ("I AM QUIT HAVE A NICE DAY") 08.51.49 # can the sim not be turned off properly?? holding enter isnt working :! 08.52.17 # ctrl+c? i don't believe you can turn it off that way :) 08.52.49 # soz, how do u run the sim in cygwin? 08.52.59 # or... where is the debug window? 08.53.43 # ./sim.exe? 08.53.58 # (s) 08.54.25 # hM? 08.54.30 # dw... 08.54.30 # hmm?* 08.54.34 # no debug output?? 08.54.44 # if you run it from cygwin, you shoukd.. 08.54.53 # Yeah, ./rockboxui.exe is what I use, in cygwin 08.54.54 # should* get debug output. 08.54.56 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-55-74.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) 08.54.56 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@labb.contactor.se) 08.54.57 # The sdl sim does something silly (imho): It writes both stdout and stderr to files 08.55.03 Part LinusN 08.55.19 # oh 08.55.24 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@labb.contactor.se) 08.55.26 # now that isn't so good 08.55.57 # midkay what about the structs ? 08.56.54 # One of the reasons why I still prefer the win32 sim 08.57.12 # that's a really silly sdl invention 08.57.15 # Bg3r, well, it's kind of hard to explain.. i want to access settings name and variable based on clock mode and setting number. so if i did that with structs i need a struct inside a struct, i believe.. 08.57.39 # i'm not sure how to do it. 08.57.44 # i worked pretty hard to get rid of that behaviour, but the sdl app is a windows app, and thus has no concept of stdio 08.58.33 # ah 08.58.41 # that's a sdl on windows only then? 08.59.24 # midkay just add the inner struct inside the definition of the outer.. 08.59.38 # B4gder: yes 08.59.40 # http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=340894 08.59.50 # Bg3r, how do i access a variable in a 'nested struct' then? 09.00.02 # everyone should use linux! 09.00.06 # * B4gder ducks 09.00.16 # outer_struct.inner_struct.member 09.00.20 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.00.24 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.00.26 Quit Sinbios (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.01.24 # struct { struct { char name, int value } analog; struct { char name, int value } digital; ... } settings;.. and then settings.analog,name to get the name? 09.01.49 # yep 09.02.15 # i think i actually need to take it even one deeper.. struct { struct { struct { char name, int value } settingnum; } analog; } settings; - that works the same? 09.02.34 # hm, why would need 2 structs with the same members ? 09.02.39 # oh, never mind. 09.03.05 # finally!! got a theme to work at long last! 09.03.05 # why just don't have a int type; 09.03.19 # Bg3r, huh? 09.03.25 # type = ANALOG; or type = DIGITAL; (for example) 09.03.44 # Bg3r, then how does that tie in with the struct? (forget the three-struct system) 09.03.58 # i need seperate names and values for each type. 09.04.14 # enter unions 09.04.20 # yep 09.04.30 # * midkay sighs 09.04.31 # :) 09.04.38 # i would if i knew how to use them :) 09.04.47 # midkay what exactly u're trying to do ? 09.05.03 # midkay the union *looks* like a struct 09.05.08 # Bg3r, each clock mode has its own settings, each setting should have a name and a value... 09.05.11 # except one *important* thing 09.05.20 # LinusN: ive started adding in the colour settings and it works, exept for some reason the values are not saved after a reboot?? 09.05.52 # i'd like to be able to call settings.analog[i].name and .value to draw a list of settings. 09.05.53 # it takes only the amount of memory needed for its largest member 09.08.30 Join safetydan [0] (n=dan@81-178-235-210.dsl.pipex.com) 09.08.55 # B4gder: Well, if you (1) can name linux equivalents for all my favourite apps (and I mean _equivalents_) and (2) can tell me a way how to make all the hardware e.g. in a laptop work under linux - then I should be able to switch completely 09.09.10 # blah 09.09.18 # I do that for me, you do that for you! ;-) 09.10.08 # I would never buy a computer/hardware before checking that it would run my linux stuff fine 09.12.21 # JdGordon: did you put them in the hd structure? 09.12.34 # JdGordon: and in settings_apply()? 09.14.28 # B4gder: Well, I just replied to your demand 'everyone should run linux' 09.14.35 # LinusN yes, he did ... 09.14.40 # afaics 09.14.53 # If you want people to switch, you should give them reason(s) why they should 09.14.57 # amiconn: and I replied to your "then give me..." 09.15.11 # the reasons are: 09.15.18 # it makes developing a lot easier 09.15.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.15.20 # and faster 09.15.26 # Rockbox that is 09.15.41 # and you could tell I wasn't really serious 09.15.51 # It makes compilation faster, yes 09.15.52 Join San [0] (n=test@213-202-151-67.bas503.dsl.esat.net) 09.15.56 # That's about all 09.16.13 # how do i change the b/ground colour in RB? 09.16.15 # you on the other hand are taking this seriously 09.17.10 # LinusN: (SDL sim) Did you try the ActivateConsole() function in the thread you meantioned? 09.17.12 # jackinabox^: At the moment, load a backdrop image of solid that color. 09.17.25 # amiconn: no, i just found it :-) 09.17.37 # JdGordon: can i see the patch? 09.17.57 # ah 09.18.24 # afaict, that approach will open a new console window :-( 09.18.35 # ok 09.18.48 # LinusN: The win32 sim also does this 09.18.53 # isn't that the only way in windows? 09.18.57 # jackinabox^: A color changer patch seems to be in the works though. ;-) 09.19.55 # B4gder: iiuc, yes, if it is a windows app 09.20.19 # it is either a console application or a windows application 09.20.27 # ah, right 09.20.30 # but i'm not a windows expert 09.20.36 # far from it :-) 09.20.40 # I'd forgot about those... weirdnesses 09.20.47 # Hmm, in fact the win32 sim is somewhat clever. It opens a new window if started by double-clicking, but uses the command console window if started from there 09.20.56 # ah 09.20.58 # aha 09.21.01 # that sounds like the proper way 09.21.22 # Now we "just" need to find a way to make the sdl sim do the same 09.22.01 # the sdl lib has an implementation of the main() function, but it can naturally be overridden 09.22.20 # it is in that main() file the console magic is done 09.22.59 # http://users.monash.edu.au/~jdgor1/rb/colour.diff 09.23.13 # also http://users.monash.edu.au/~jdgor1/rb/colour_picker.c in apps/gui 09.23.28 # LinusN this was for you :) 09.23.56 # amiconn: http://linus.haxx.se/SDL_win32_main.c 09.24.46 # Bg3r: why all these changes in apps/SOURCES? 09.25.18 # LinusN don't ask me :) 09.25.31 # i think he just rearranged the things 09.25.43 # hmmm, looks like CR/LF sillyness 09.27.10 Quit jackinabox^ () 09.28.16 # JdGordon: both settings structure entries set bg_color 09.28.31 # cut&paste error 09.29.09 # Hmm, trying to leave the (non-sw-poweroff) sdl sim via the shutdown sequence (OFF-OFF in browser for recv1, Menu->Shutdown for player) hangs it 09.29.13 # and i think it might be better to stick with the american spelling of color, since it is used everywhere else in the code 09.29.19 # It works both in win32 and x11 09.29.59 # amiconn: funny, i have never tried that 09.30.27 # how do you include new files in a cvs diff ? 09.30.37 # cvsdo add 09.31.27 # can anyone tell me if the menu button-handling code is in menu.c and just really cryptic or if it's located elsewhere? :) 09.31.28 # has the devkit stuff got cvsutils yet? 09.31.34 # thanks 09.31.43 # LinusN ah, sh.t ... 09.31.46 # ashridah: i have no idea 09.31.47 # didn't see it :) 09.34.31 # midkay: gui/(sync)lists.c i believe 09.36.03 Quit quobl (Remote closed the connection) 09.36.16 # LinusN, ah, seems to be right.. thanks 09.36.28 # unless I misunderstand const, shouldn't the gui functions declare the screen parameter as const? 09.37.58 # does it matter? 09.38.02 # LinusN, actually.. that looks like just up/down navigation.. 09.38.21 # midkay: yes, and the rest is handled with a callback 09.38.31 # LinusN, hm? :) 09.38.51 # thanx LinusN 09.38.59 Join Zagor [0] (n=bjst@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/Zagor) 09.39.37 # LinusN, not really, just means I have to un-const some of my eq_menu stuff to use the scrollbars 09.39.47 # safetydan: aha 09.40.07 Join petur [0] (n=d4efd6a6@labb.contactor.se) 09.40.17 # well, we do try to be consistent with the const:ing 09.41.03 # Zagor marvelous work on the flyspray conversion, when are we going to see this? 09.41.10 # but i don't know much about the new gui stuff 09.42.21 # :'( still doesnt work... 09.43.05 # Zagor: there's no "attach a file" in flyspray reports, is there? 09.45.41 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB75CD2.ipt.aol.com) 09.46.29 Quit saa[b_r]ider (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.46.53 # JdGordon: does it work if you save a .cfg file and load it back? 09.47.40 Join moozooh [0] (n=moozooh@87.240.1.66) 09.47.42 # umm.. it seems to work sometimes.... 09.49.04 # sometimes? 09.49.13 # What's the "verbose asm" switch in gcc? 09.49.20 # safetydan: -fverbose-asm 09.49.32 # use with -S 09.50.04 Join krmathis [0] (n=krmathis@124.84-48-138.nextgentel.com) 09.50.38 # Zagor: I managed to reset my password for flyspray, but I can't login using my newly set one... 09.50.58 # B4gder, thanks 09.51.31 # ah, ok, it works.. 09.55.53 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-31-134.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 09.56.06 # hrmm... well looks like I'm wrong. I thought "const"ing some stuff in the gui code would let gcc optimise it a bit better, but it doesn't. 09.56.21 # Even with -O3 there's no difference between the const and non-const versions 09.58.53 # sweeettt.. looks like its working goodly :D 09.59.03 # JdGordon: what was wrong? 09.59.14 # just the copy error 09.59.27 # but what about the "sometimes"? 09.59.28 # and a few places needed to have the color reset 09.59.45 # not sure.. seems ot be working ok now after explicitly setting the coour again 09.59.59 # oh 10.03.56 Quit tvelocity ("Αναχωρεί") 10.04.59 # does anyone know how to convert RGBPACK values back to rgb? i think i stuffed it up :p 10.05.00 # B4gder: that sounds odd 10.05.19 # I'll try it again 10.06.12 # nope 10.06.23 # It says it reset the password fine 10.06.29 # but then I can't login with it 10.07.58 # does this look wrong to convert rgbpack to r,g,b?? http://pastebin.ca/42628 10.08.29 # i just revered the rgbpack maths... 10.08.39 # so it should work... shouldnt it? 10.08.58 # i just submitted a patch to add some initial iPod Mini support if anyones interested in checking it out 10.09.28 # ScoTTie: we get mailed on all SF submissions, we noticed your patch! nice work so far indeed 10.09.33 # JdGordon: when do you need to do that? 10.09.39 # ah cool :) 10.09.45 # to set the colour picker widget to the current colour 10.10.01 # but isn't that in the settings struct? 10.10.36 # and if you want that math present, I think it should be done by a macro and it should be define right next to the RGBPACK() one 10.10.40 # no, the current rgbpack value is there... the colour chooser uses the individual colours... 10.10.51 # aha, you store the packed version 10.11.15 # btw, i see you store 32 bits in the hd struct 10.11.25 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.11.42 # i could store the 3 individually instead? then its 3 chars instead of 32bit.. 10.11.48 # that's why i thought you stored the full 24-bit value 10.12.03 # well, the max is 18 bits, isnt it? 10.12.11 # so you should store 18 bits 10.12.25 # in fact, we won't use 18 bits on the x5 10.12.46 # so you can skip that an use 16 for now 10.12.49 # ok, i wasnt quite sure how the hdbits thing worked... it doesnt correspond to the size of the struct vairbale type? 10.12.55 # no 10.13.22 # that's the whole point of that structure, to pack it in as few bits as possible 10.13.22 # ok 10.14.49 # JdGordon: i'm not sure about how to handle the color settings, really 10.15.20 # either we store the full 24-bit value or the packed one 10.15.24 # ok, im changin it to store each as a char array (_colour[r,g,b]) so what is the hd_bits supposed to look like? 10.15.48 # but if we store the packed one, should we perhaps use the true 5-6-5 in the gui as well? 10.16.06 # ? 10.16.27 # i.e 32 red values, 64 green and 32 blue 10.16.59 # i think so.. coz its less work on the scrolling :D dont have to go from 0->255 on each bar... 10.17.17 # origionaly i di it for 8bit colours thinking i was on the comp... 10.18.03 # im confusing myself :p 10.19.45 Join Paul_The_Ner1 [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 10.20.32 Quit Paul_The_Nerd (Nick collision from services.) 10.20.36 Nick Paul_The_Ner1 is now known as Paul_The_Nerd (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 10.25.08 Quit perpleXa (Connection timed out) 10.26.35 # when insterting the charger into the h340, why does the original firmware start and not rockbox? 10.27.04 # * B4gder walks the path of black goo 10.35.45 Quit Rob2222 () 10.37.03 # anyone knows how the remotes work now, after the change in button.c? 10.38.35 # linuxstb: do we really need several defines for the ipod keypad? aren't all of them the same? 10.38.36 # needleboy: not very well 10.38.49 # needleboy: the key mapping is still way off 10.38.56 # damn 10.39.09 # the patch on the tracker isn't close to being submitted either, right? 10.42.55 # no 10.43.00 # preglow: no 10.43.18 # the ipod mini one doesnt work at all appart from the hold key 10.43.27 # ScoTTie: Don't they all have the same buttons though? Next, previous, select, Menu, and Play. Just where they're positioned changes? 10.43.40 # afaik they do 10.43.53 # but if you look at ipl the code paths for each model is totally different 10.44.01 # I think what he means is that outside of the button driver, there only needs to be one set of buttons for all ipod targets. 10.44.09 # Or something like that. 10.44.18 # ah 10.44.45 # probably, saves having a bunch of ||'s 10.44.48 # So you don't have plugins that are like IPOD_4G_PAD || IPOD_3G_PAD || IPOD_2G_PAD etc etc etc. 10.44.59 # yeah 10.46.22 # preglow: Looking at pictures of the generations of iPods, it *looks* like they all have the exact same buttons. I don't see a 1G at this page though. (And I'm not including the mini) 10.48.20 # the mini is the same as the newer ones 10.49.06 # all the ipods have had the same buttons, yes.. 10.49.21 # and i believe the mini had the same as well 10.49.40 Join DT291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-149-149-154.bna.bellsouth.net) 10.53.02 # hrmm... the eq presets in the h300 "optimized" build are all the wrong way around. Guess I won't be committing those. 10.53.12 # lostlogic: r u there? 10.53.57 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@88.134.20.76) 10.57.38 # DEBUGF() should work in the sdl sim right? 10.59.35 # LinusN: Maybe the sdl sim is compiled as a gui app on cygwin, and compiling it as a console app would fix the stdio issue? 11.00.39 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11.00.42 # that has nothing to do with cygwin 11.00.50 # check the url i gave you 11.01.28 # that is the main function in the sdl library, used by the win32 sdl sim 11.01.44 # gui/console shouldn't matter in cygwin, since it always connects stdout and stderr 11.01.59 # we need to copy the needed parts from that main() to our own 11.02.41 # so... how do i get some debug info? it was wokring fine in the win32 sim *shakes fist* 11.03.33 # JdGordon: that's exactly what we are discussing 11.03.43 # righto... 11.03.51 Join imphasing [0] (n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net) 11.04.41 # preglow: I think we should separate the 3G and 4G keypads - the 3G has four buttons arranged horizontally underneath the LCD. This means that potentially (especially in games) you might want different key mappings. 11.04.44 # is it ok to store a 3 char array in the settings struct and have this in the hd_bits tihngy "{24,S_O(bg_colour),0xb6c6e5,"background",NULL}," ? 11.05.19 # JdGordon: so you are going for the full 24-bit approach? 11.05.24 # ye 11.05.28 # cept its not working... 11.05.35 # But we should probably keep IPOD_4G_PAD for the mini, and then just use #ifdef IPOD_MINI in the button driver to note the changes. 11.05.52 # JdGordon: no, that will not work 11.06.03 # damn :p 11.06.14 # linuxstb: would you be able to help me get the mini keypad working ? 11.06.23 # JdGordon: well, it *may* work 11.06.49 # but i think it may be wiser to go for the native format 11.07.34 # linuxstb: right, forgot about that 11.07.41 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-32-194-202.bna.bellsouth.net) 11.07.54 # ScoTTie: Sorry, I don't have time now. But I would suggest defining the mini as having IPOD_4G_PAD, and then using #ifdef IPOD_MINI in button.c to implement the differences. Just compare our button driver with ipodlinux. 11.08.28 # so all the magic numbers would be similar ? 11.08.49 # What magic numbers? 11.09.07 # i noticed that in ipl 4g used the mini's code path after its own i2c one 11.09.31 # ScoTTie: probably a mistake 11.09.40 # ScoTTie: i removed all that and it had no impact 11.10.38 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.10.39 # so i pretty much just need to match the correct key values up ? 11.10.53 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-31-134.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 11.12.46 # :'( this is so screwed... nothnig makes any sense :p 11.13.09 # JdGordon: ? 11.13.28 # i cant even explain it.. its all just *wierd*.. 11.13.59 # welcome to the wonderful world of writing weird bugs ;) 11.14.35 # i thikn i want to go back to storing the rgbpack'ed value.. but i have to figure out the maths to get the r,g,b vals back.. 11.15.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.15.37 # r << 16 + g << 8 + b ? 11.16.27 # it cant be that simple?? 11.16.31 # it isn't 11.16.32 # safetydan: You want to make sure that #ffff maps to #ffffff 11.17.00 # JdGordon, apparently not :) 11.17.09 # :'( 11.17.11 Quit DT291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.17.42 # JdGordon: r = (packedval >> 11) & 0x1f; 11.17.50 # etc 11.17.55 # ok 11.18.04 # oh, thought you were going the other way 11.18.07 # i suggest you use the native values in the slider as well 11.18.33 # LinusN: I'm not sure about that. What if a user knows they want to set #23F42E ? 11.18.50 # he can't 11.19.17 # That's harsh... 11.19.18 # only if it translates exactly to a 5-6-5 value 11.20.04 # sure, we could display the 8-8-8 equivalent somewhere 11.20.19 # but i do believe the sliders should be in the native scale 11.20.33 # but that's me 11.20.48 # i could make it user selectable.... e.g use a button to switch between modes? 11.20.55 # I agree the sliders shouldn't allow all values from 0..255 - I was thinking of the scale being 0..255, but with only 5 or 6 bit accuracy. 11.20.59 # it would be useful if the .cfg stored the 24bit version 11.21.09 # B4gder: true 11.21.11 # since then the .cfg value could be used across platforms 11.21.18 Join gtkspert_ [0] (n=gtkspert@203-59-171-80.dyn.iinet.net.au) 11.22.00 # hang on.. 24bit isnt the native version is it? 11.22.08 # of course not 11.22.28 # the native is 16bit 11.22.45 # or whatever the lcd uses 11.22.56 # ok, just getting confused here... 11.23.30 # ok, so maybe a 0..255 slider with limited resolution would be the best... 11.23.54 # I'd like that too 11.24.27 # The resolution is limited based upon your platform, but the value is saved as 24-bit, so if you move to a platform with wider range the color is matched, and if you move to one with less range it's approximated? 11.24.44 # how would you move? 11.24.54 # Your theme would move... 11.24.54 # :P 11.25.00 # ah 11.26.24 # Paul_The_Nerd: that's why I want the full 24bit in the .cfg file 11.26.46 # since that's what the theme would load 11.28.04 # B4gder: As long as the value written to the .cfg is always exactly what's shown on the screen (IE, don't let the user pick 24-bit values on a 16-bit display where they're approximated, then save those 24-bit values) then I think that's a pretty good idea. 11.28.22 # can the 24bit version get written even if we only save the native version? 11.29.05 # not easily 11.29.23 Quit DJ_Dooms_Day (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.29.53 # so unless we store both... which is best to store? 11.30.28 # Paul_The_Nerd: btw, is channel order correct now? 11.30.29 # i think the config struct should have the 8-8-8 value 11.30.36 Join DJ_Dooms_Day [0] (n=DJDD@220-245-186-182.static.tpgi.com.au) 11.30.48 # I think so too 11.30.50 # but global_settings could hold a precalculated native value for efficiency 11.30.57 # preglow: One second, I'll chek 11.31.13 # that isn't saved 11.31.17 # ah, ok 11.31.51 # preglow: Yes, it is. 11.34.18 Quit gtkspert (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.35.08 # goodie 11.35.25 # * preglow shaves another instruction off of the fiq handler! 11.35.29 # * preglow does the assembler dance 11.36.06 # my, that is a rare dance! 11.36.39 # B4gder: Did you look at my bmp2rb changes? (after I remembered to commit all the files....) 11.36.53 # only briefly 11.37.05 # :'( ok, can i store the 24bit verison in 1 int? and will it be like 0x00rrggbb or is big/little endian gonna confuse everything? 11.38.06 # JdGordon: I would create a "struct rgb" containing three unsigned chars. 11.38.28 Join Nico [0] (n=nico404@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 11.44.29 # http://www.digimusic.org/entry/rockbox-helps-you-change-your-ipods-software 11.44.39 # these guys certainly understood how things are related 11.44.47 # "iPodfun.de from Germany have created a new firmware software for the iPod " 11.44.51 # hahaha 11.45.08 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48) 11.45.30 # how nice of them 11.45.40 # A truly well researched blurb. 11.45.58 # hahahaha 11.46.05 # everything you read on the internet is true 11.47.04 # 2 majopr mistakes in 3 lines... 11.47.05 # lunch! 11.47.08 # *major 11.47.10 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB75CD2.ipt.aol.com) 11.47.56 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-33-15.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 11.50.21 Join webguest10 [0] (n=50b14024@labb.contactor.se) 11.50.43 # ipodfun writes about rockbox devcon: http://www.ipod-fun.de/content/view/1644/50/ 11.51.57 # translation? 11.52.06 # So, they ask that readers of iPodFun submit to them requests for what should be proposed to change at Rockbox Devcon, because they'll be there? 11.52.33 # yeah, they say they will be there 11.53.03 # transparency1!!!!! 11.53.14 # nice brickmania action in the picture ;) 11.54.16 # That's the first feature request I've read for ATRAC... 11.54.51 # * petur looks at list of devcon members and wonders who ipod-fun is 11.55.36 # linuxstb: I *think* I saw it buried in some random thread at misticriver once. Maybe. 11.55.45 # They also have a rather positive rockbox review: http://www.ipod-fun.de/content/view/1615/50/ 11.56.52 # sweden is gmt+1 ye? 11.57.07 # yes 11.57.33 # (w/o dst) 11.57.38 # if your doing the webcam.. keep the interesting bits till sat arvo so i can watch :D 11.59.47 # * linuxstb wonders why google translates Rockbox to skirt box. 11.59.57 # hahaha 12.00.09 # haha 12.00.21 # i prefer my own shaky german to google's outright absurd translations 12.00.32 # linuxstb: I dunno. Babelfish did too. 12.01.15 # amiconn: Can you explain? 12.01.46 # rock = skirt 12.01.59 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@124.60.15.86) 12.03.20 # lol 12.03.31 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.03.37 # hi 12.03.49 # needleboy are you there? 12.06.24 # oh goody :) its bloody crashing on startup on the player... 12.07.09 # bootloader usb is your friend ;) 12.08.02 Part petur 12.09.16 # ahaha 12.09.28 # and now someone posted an illegal url to rockbox too 12.09.29 # haha 12.09.54 # we're located at http://www.rockbox.com./, apparently 12.10.46 # linuxstb: rock (german) means skirt 12.11.26 # Does box=box, or is that just google perfoming no translation. 12.11.39 # someone fork off trouserbox 12.12.58 # It's interesting with the Google Translation, you see phrases like "cobbled together" or "the good old Starfield simulation ." and I find myself wondering if it does try some approximation as I doubt that's as literal as some of the other things. 12.13.10 # There should be both trouser and skirt box plugins of some sort. 12.13.17 Join Membrillo [0] (n=sam_kill@CPE-60-228-27-74.nsw.bigpond.net.au) 12.13.40 # heh, support for ATRAC formats in rockbox? 12.13.49 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-16-144.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 12.14.47 Join Siku [0] (n=Siku@f303b.w3.ton.tut.fi) 12.16.24 # atrac isn't too complex, but i don't think the full spec is published anywhere 12.16.45 # or do you know of any open source codecs? 12.17.21 # no, i thought it wasn't possible because it's all patented or undocumented. the ipod-fun.de article suggests that as a feature request. 12.19.42 # i really couldn't care less 12.19.48 # the only atrac tracks i have are on minidiscs 12.19.50 # where they will stay 12.20.15 # minidisc.... bliah.... 12.20.36 # i wouldn't even know how to encode something in atrac except for minidisc 12.20.40 # non-drm wma would be a more appropriate request, although I don't care personally either 12.20.52 # yes, I agree 12.21.03 # who uses atrac anyway (or wma) 12.21.37 # AFAIK atrac cames last as a codec in test comparisons 12.22.04 # yeah, it's not very efficient 12.22.05 # I could see wma and realaudio being useful for recording webcasts and then playing them in Rockbox. 12.22.30 # as i've said, i'll probably give wma a go in a little while 12.22.44 # nice! 12.23.02 Join DT291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-32-194-202.bna.bellsouth.net) 12.23.20 # Why don't you just implement your own AAC decoder instead? :) 12.24.10 # haha 12.24.13 # would be fun, i guess 12.24.47 # preglow, one day you're going to have to show us this dictionary you keep learning your definitions of things like "fun" from. 12.25.54 Quit Membrillo () 12.25.58 # Paul_The_Nerd: i get threatening letters from the core devs every week which state what is fun for me the coming week 12.26.14 # Aha, the conspiracy uncovered! 12.26.41 # I thought ipod-fun.de were in charge? 12.26.57 # Maybe they're the "core devs" of which he spoke. 12.28.10 # i shall reveal no more! 12.28.36 # linuxstb: btw, did you see that flac playback still didn't come higher than 10 hours at 30mhz? :/ 12.29.02 # i wonder what the hell we'll have to do to get decent battery readings 12.29.17 # Paul_The_Nerd: for your next test: wait until i've finished the flac opts, and also switch off the peak meter 12.29.57 # s/battery readings/something about lower power use/ 12.30.02 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.31.01 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.31.17 # preglow: Sure thing. Sorry again for not getting a better time on the test. 12.31.35 # I just forgot to stick it in my pocket. 12.32.02 # preglow: Yes, I'm not sure either. We need to investigate what the pcf50605 can do. 12.32.31 # linuxstb: that too 12.32.39 # there's not much we can do for the disk on nano, at least 12.32.46 # the flash controller sleeps the flash automatically 12.32.52 # so that part is out of the question 12.32.53 # One power saving option would be to not enable both the lineout and headphone out at the same time - but I don't think we can automatically detect if the lineout is in use. 12.32.59 # well 12.33.09 # i seriously doubt lineout steals much 12.33.54 # :'( how do i figure out which change is stopping rb from loading ont he player? 12.34.03 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-142-033.pools.arcor-ip.net) 12.34.15 # JdGordon: Use the daily builds. 12.34.33 # Or do you mean your own changes? 12.34.39 # ye, my changes 12.34.48 # * linuxstb will wake up soon... 12.35.07 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@140.80-202-100.nextgentel.com) 12.35.08 # When does Rockbox hang? 12.35.14 # after result: 0 12.36.19 # ive commented out all my changes to settings.c which is the only 1 that has anything todo with booting.. (i tinhk) 12.36.53 # Try resetting your settings - hold record whilst booting. 12.37.24 # If you change the settings structure without changing the settings version number, then things can go bad. 12.37.28 # nup, same thing 12.38.53 Join quobl [0] (n=quobl@tor/session/x-ab685def5f173abd) 12.40.05 # change CONFIG_BLOCK_VERSION ? 12.40.16 # JdGordon: When things go wrong for me I tend to put splashes all over the place 12.40.24 # you didn't? 12.40.33 # i only added to the end 12.40.53 # anyway. it didnt help :'( 12.41.01 Join webguest11 [0] (n=d4406110@labb.contactor.se) 12.41.19 # righto.. time to start over :'( 12.41.43 # maybe future devices will have this TI hardware for accurate battery display http://focus.ti.com/docs/pr/pressrelease.jhtml?prelId=sc04176 12.44.10 # hmm, thats old technology anyway, 2004 12.45.21 Part webguest11 12.49.34 # are the settings applied after being reset? 12.49.41 # I must write a book once I get my H340 about what sort of things can go wrong and make you frurstrated. 12.50.14 # XavierGr: i can help u there.. the amount of idiot things ive done recently (in the code) is rediculous :p 12.51.39 # JdGordon: Looking at the init() function in apps/main.c (be careful - there are two versions, one for the sim), the settings_reset() function is called first, then the logo is displayed, then the settings are loaded, and then the settings are applied. 12.51.48 # FFS... found the problem.... i was changint the lcd colour in settings_reset() which (i didnt realise) is called before the screen is setup :p 12.52.09 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ipa187.11.tellas.gr) 12.52.15 Join einhirn [0] (i=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 12.56.30 Join petur [0] (n=d4efd6a6@labb.contactor.se) 12.59.04 Nick ts|away is now known as t0mas (n=tomas@unaffiliated/t0mas) 12.59.49 # is anyone vehemently opposed to adding a proper malloc to the plugin lib? 13.00.05 # ScoTTie: You patch to start the iPod Mini port looks good - I'm about to commit it. What's your real name so we can add you to the CREDITS file? 13.00.06 # and free .... pleeeeeeaaaase 13.00.12 # JdGordon: of course 13.00.33 # hahaha... no, only malloc :D 13.00.45 # petur: well, that's what we have right now... 13.01.15 # I have a malloc implementation 13.01.41 # I committed a patch from sf. How do I remove it from there? 13.02.22 # tucoz: you need to have the rights to, I'll fix you up for it... is tucoz your user name on SF? 13.02.32 # I think so :) 13.03.01 # B4gder: that was what i was thinking about, as long as it's got standard malloc/free calls and can be quickly initialised to use whatever malloc buffer you have handy, i think we should stuff it in as a plugin library or something 13.03.15 # that it can do 13.03.28 # you can even add multiple chunks to it 13.03.33 # oh, excellent 13.03.34 # http://daniel.haxx.se/projects/dbestfit/ 13.03.37 # preglow: I don't object, but why is it needed? IMO, malloc isn't the best API to use when dealing with limited memory. 13.03.47 # people are starting to port pretty advanced stuff as plugins now 13.03.49 # like doom... 13.03.56 # it won't work well with a limited malloc 13.04.06 # * amiconn would prefer to avoid malloc completely 13.04.25 # amiconn: generally, yes, but for easier porting of plugins i'm ok with it 13.04.33 # amiconn: i still think it should be avoided in the core and codecs 13.04.51 # how many seconds does the pcm buffer hold? could you say half it? half for pcm and half for plugins so we could get some more ram? 13.04.53 # tucoz: now you should be able to close such tracker entries 13.04.53 # I would still prefer ports to get rid of malloc. 13.04.59 # B4gder: thanks 13.05.31 # .. i mean, so we can have music in plugins which need than the 512k we r aloud 13.05.41 # pointer havoc in the plugins will ruin the core too of course 13.05.42 # allowed 13.05.47 # that 2 13.06.07 # B4gder: do I just change the status to 'Closed'? 13.06.11 # preglow: How does the doom port handle malloc? Does it implement free? 13.06.26 # tucoz: yes, "closed" and "accepted" is what we set patches we accept and committed 13.06.38 # Ok, good. 13.06.52 Quit Jungti1234 () 13.09.00 # linuxstb: don't think so 13.09.39 # i would also prefer plugins to not use malloc, but for big clunky shit like doom, where you have to use the audio buffer anyway, i don't see the point 13.09.45 # it's more work than it's worth 13.10.41 # anyway, it's not a big deal for me, just thought i'd suggest it 13.12.05 # weeeeeee.... i tinhk my colour settings is finnaly finished... 13.12.15 # except it just loaded blue text instead of black! 13.13.13 # yup.. all working 13.13.42 # Do you have a screenshot of your colour settings widget? 13.14.28 # http://users.monash.edu.au/~jdgor1/rb/col_pic.bmp 13.14.50 # its a slightly older pic... but the only thing changed is that uses my slider, it now uses the scrollbar widget 13.14.57 # access forbidden 13.15.05 # JdGordon, that looks very cool :) 13.15.11 # can't wait to see it finished 13.15.24 # petur: refresh it 13.15.27 # it should work 13.15.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.15.54 # nope... 13.16.05 # JdGordon: Do the sliders move in 256 steps, or is the resolution limited? 13.16.15 # 256 steps... 13.16.33 # ha.. fooled the cache, now it's ok 13.16.51 # i dont get the limited res u were talking about b4 13.17.27 Join IcyStorM [0] (n=aknemyr@h72n12c1o1043.bredband.skanova.com) 13.17.36 # JdGordon, instead of increasing by one value every time you get input up or down, increase by.. like.. 6, whatever step size they were talking about, iiuc.. 13.17.37 # Anybody has any nice skins for iPod to share with me? 13.18.04 # For example, when converted to native RGB565, Red can only take values from 0..31. So the slider should just have 32 different values, but in the range 0..255 13.18.39 # Basically, skip values that don't result in a change in the 16-bit packed value. 13.18.47 # Exactly. 13.19.02 # ok, so what step size? 13.20.07 # 8 for R and B, 4 for G? 13.20.15 # Is that right? 13.20.56 # hey, JdGordon, have you ever used photoshop? 13.21.00 # no 13.21.11 # But that's on 16bpp targets. The step sizes should probably be changeable for different depth displays. 13.21.31 # hm, that's all i can think of for what i'm trying to convey.. here's a screenshot, look at the center right color selector - http://www.minghui.ca/mh/article_images/2004-11-12-photoshop-12.jpg 13.21.52 # might be too slow to do on rockbox, but it'd be cool to have a preview in the bar of how the color would look if you scrolled it that way.. 13.22.15 # not possible using the scrollbar widget... and ye, slow... 13.22.20 # but cool.. 13.22.26 # you don't "have" to use the scrollbar widget.. :) 13.25.00 Part IcyStorM 13.26.40 # any way to make linux update the free sector count on a fat32 file system? 13.27.02 Join IcyStorM [0] (n=aknemyr@h72n12c1o1043.bredband.skanova.com) 13.27.05 Part IcyStorM 13.28.39 # * preglow finds out 13.31.49 # ok, im doing it as a mode toggle... so u press a button and u get your better resolutino... whats a good key binding for the ipods for this? 13.32.13 # im already using left/right/scroll_back,fwd, menu and select 13.32.47 Quit webguest10 ("CGI:IRC") 13.32.54 # JdGordon, that leaves.. play. 13.32.55 # :D 13.33.04 # menu|select ? 13.33.10 # JdGordon: I don't think it's as simple as just doing 8 or 4 steps - see this table I've just calculated based on LCD_RGBPACK - http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/rgb565.txt 13.33.14 # yeah, that sounds best.. 13.33.32 # Also, why a mode toggle? If it doesn't change the RGB packed value, why would you need to set them on the unit? 13.34.08 # linuxstb: ok.. too hard :D 13.34.15 # JdGordon: Why don't you display the "native" value on the slider, but display the colour underneath - e.g. "#FF22EE" 13.34.20 # linuxstb: Actually, that is 8 4 8, except the first and last step 13.34.45 # Paul_The_Nerd: No - look at Green for values 168 to 172... 13.35.12 # I was wondering about that. I had just noticed there were 3 at the beginning and end. 13.35.28 # The same happens at 83..87 13.36.07 # That seems odd. 13.36.24 # What do you do then, rather than just lowering the resolution of the color? 13.36.45 # linuxstb: do you know where to find the asm blitter 5g? 13.37.01 # We could make the sliders "native" - i.e. 0..31 and 0..63, but always display the RGB888 value underneath as "#RRGGBB" 13.37.10 # hyarion: It's in hotdog_ops.S 13.37.52 # linuxstb: Making the sliders native seems best to me too, actually. Then you know exactly what resolution you have for each of R G and B. 13.39.13 # but ppl want to see what a rgb will look like on the player... which is why i rekon keep it as is.. (also im lazy and this is too hard :p ) 13.39.42 # JdGordon: Do you have a function to convert from the 16-bit value to the 24-bit value? 13.39.51 # no 13.39.59 # im storing both... 13.41.20 # I seem to remember the first version of the win32 sim using a 24-bit display - so there could be function in the cvs history... 13.43.16 # JdGordon: Look here: http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/uisimulator/win32/lcd-win32.c?r1=1.18&r2=1.19 13.43.53 # I'm not sure I understand those functions though.... 13.44.46 # the stuff under line 178 looks like its for native->24bit? but that doesnt take into account 565notswapped and 666 ? 13.45.10 # amiconn: is .align 2 actually necessary for sh asm code? 13.45.49 # and yeah, does .align 2 align to 4 bytes or 2 bytes? 13.45.51 # it's four, right? 13.46.36 # do we have any 666 targets? 13.46.59 # u dont want to keep it good so if we do we r ready for them? 13.47.07 # LinusN: nope 13.47.27 # although the gigabeat's style isn't really set in stone 13.47.47 Join Matze41 [0] (i=Miranda@p5484CEE2.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.48.09 # JdGordon: not if it means more complicated code 13.48.25 # ok 13.48.57 # well... im calling it a night.. so ill upload the patch and let you decide what u want to do. 13.49.03 # good 13.49.30 # if sf would let me login... 13.49.41 # JdGordon: I'll have a look, and test a function to convert from 16-bit to 24-bit. 13.50.40 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-32-194-202.bna.bellsouth.net) 13.51.25 # B4gder: people were reporting that the jpegs look a lot better with version 3 of the gigabeat firmware, but I disassembled the new firmware and they still use RGB5551 13.51.33 # aha 13.51.35 # why the hell does sf force u to check the damn box to upload a file??? cant they add some java script to check it automatically if u press browse??? 13.51.49 # markun: then they probably just improved the viewer or something? 13.51.56 # probably 13.51.57 # anyway.. here is the patch... http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1435887&group_id=44306&atid=439120 13.52.00 # gnite all 13.52.35 # nite, JdGordon 13.53.03 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.55.48 Quit tucoz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.56.33 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@140.80-202-100.nextgentel.com) 13.59.40 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 13.59.41 # argh! 13.59.48 # i'm starting to get merge collisions on the bloody cvs id strings 13.59.54 # what the hell is going on 14.00.10 # preglow same here :) 14.00.15 # since week or so 14.00.19 # yeah, exactly 14.00.21 # what changed? 14.00.25 # i sure as hell haven't done anything 14.00.26 # I think Zagor upgraded CVS 14.01.06 # that's the only thing I can think of 14.01.19 Quit DT291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.01.31 # on all files or just some files? 14.01.51 # I think I've gotten this as well, when I think about it 14.02.07 # me too 14.02.09 # it was s/-/\/ or s/\//- 14.02.37 # yeah 14.02.48 # you mean within the id string? 14.02.49 # yes 14.02.51 # in the date 14.02.53 # yep 14.02.54 # * tucoz waits for preglow to mention svn.... 14.03.14 # B4gder: what about svn ? :) 14.03.27 # yes please 14.03.46 # there's this thing they call svn! 14.03.50 # hehe 14.03.54 # git! 14.03.56 # wazzdat? 14.03.59 # :-) 14.04.02 # i'll check the changelog 14.04.05 # git uses libcurl! ;-) 14.04.12 # let's do that 14.04.17 # * B4gder ducks 14.04.18 # even more reasons to use it :) 14.04.46 # * preglow just merged arm memcpy from linux 14.04.55 # And it's easy (according to http://sam.zoy.org/writings/programming/svn2cvs.html) to move as well :) 14.04.59 # memset! 14.05.02 # seems to work 14.05.06 # Zagor isn't this connected with local zone settings ? 14.05.12 # tucoz: that particular transition is easy indeed, yes 14.05.31 # I _do_ know a bit about svn you know 14.05.34 # Bg3r: the id string collision? 14.05.38 # Zagor yep 14.05.46 # I guess a huge repository, like rockbox's is somewhat different 14.05.57 # Bg3r: I don't know 14.06.08 # tucoz: not really, we have no branches or anything. quite simple 14.06.29 # preglow: .align aligns by 2^value for some archs, and just by value for others. SH1 is of the first kind, 14.06.32 # Oh, and do such a transition take care of history as well? 14.06.43 # so.align 2 aligns by 4 byte on sh1 14.06.46 # amiconn: is it really needed? 14.06.49 # check http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/trunk/COMMITTERS 14.06.51 # tucoz, depending on how you do it, yes 14.06.57 # see a name you recognize? ;-) 14.07.13 # :) 14.07.37 # he's talking about that jim blandy 14.07.51 # preglow: While .align 2 is not *stricly* necessary for code (.align 1 would be sufficient), it helps perforance when running from IRAM (or any other 32bit mem) 14.07.57 # bagder wouldn't know anything about svn 14.08.08 # amiconn: i'm wondering if aligning is necessary at all 14.08.14 # I cnat even speel it ;-P 14.08.16 # amiconn: for coldfire, i believe gas automatically aligns 14.08.31 # amiconn: is executing unaligned code legal on sh? 14.08.38 # B4gder do you have commit access to cvs's tree ? :) 14.08.47 # not yet ;-] 14.09.23 # preglow: No, code has to be aligned at word boundaries for sh1 14.09.25 # then it's a shame that rb's repository is on cvs ... 14.09.35 # All insns are 16bit long. 14.09.47 # But from 32bit mem, the sh fetches instructions in pairs 14.10.03 # right 14.10.13 # B4gder: why aren't we using SVN for rockbox? 14.10.26 # because we haven't made it do so yet 14.10.37 # it's mainly me 14.10.47 # and my plethora of scripts ontop of cvs 14.10.57 # that need a svn-whack 14.11.01 # The pipeline is designed in a way that a mem-accessing insn which is loaed from a long aligned address does its memory access in a way that doesn't interfere with instruction fetch 14.11.14 # (when fetching isnsn from 32bit mem) 14.11.21 # anyone know how to make vim replace tabs by spaces properly? so correct indentation levels are retained also for comments and other illegal use of tabs 14.11.30 Quit `3nergy (Connection reset by peer) 14.11.36 # If the instruction is at long_bondary +2, it does interfere 14.12.03 # So, putting load/store insns at long boundaries saves one cycle when running from IRAM 14.12.44 # B4gder. Does SVN use a berkely database for storage? 14.12.54 Join `3nergy [0] (n=3nergy@techgaming.net) 14.12.54 # tucoz: if you want to, or plain file system 14.12.55 # tucoz: depends how you set it up 14.12.56 # ok 14.13.12 # I've read a bit about bdb, sounds very nice. 14.13.25 # you can set it up to use fsfs instead of the db, and it tends to run better, and not munge the database 14.13.30 # Ok 14.13.32 # indeed 14.13.42 # 98% of the svn problems seem to be bdb related 14.14.06 # (yes, I've researched that percentage veeeery thoroughly) 14.14.17 # don't use bdb backend if you can avoid it 14.14.20 # oh, well. I guess bdb is better for more static database use. 14.14.24 # fsfs is lots better 14.14.31 # tucoz: not necessarily 14.14.42 # it also depends on I/O vs CPU etc 14.14.48 # and number of simultanoes accesses 14.15.00 # Ok. At least the sales pitch tells me so ;) 14.17.15 # Does anyone have a link to an example site using the equivalent to viewcvs.cgi for SVN? 14.17.23 # Is the fsfs implementation still transactional? 14.17.28 # preglow: This SH1 specialty is the reason why some of my loops are designed as they are. Probably the best example are the SH1 ata read & write loops 14.17.28 # viewcvs works for svn too 14.17.43 # OK. 14.18.05 # linuxstb: http://www.icculus.org/ uses svn excentively. http://svn.icculus.org/IcculusFinger/ for example 14.18.08 # * petur finds tortoisesvn 14.18.16 # http://svn.collab.net/viewvc/svn/ 14.18.20 # is the svn itself 14.18.55 # or http://svn.icculus.org/quake3/ for a more active one 14.19.26 # iirc, it's a CVS-head version of viewcvs, tweaked a bit (cvs head of viewcvs supports svn) 14.19.28 # svn is available as cygwin package 14.19.45 # If we're going the whole hog, how about Trac? http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/ 14.20.02 # How do the revision numbers work? It doesn't look the same as CVS... 14.20.14 # linuxstb: increased for each commit 14.20.18 # atomicly 14.20.19 # linuxstb: i have a prob with your commit "First attempt at generating and using .h files from bitmaps using bmp2rb. The .h files are generated for both the core bitmaps and the plugins, but are only currently being used in the core." 14.20.29 # for the entire respository that is 14.20.32 # Nico: What's the problem? 14.20.51 # when i try to compile, i get an error message saying rockboxlogo.h is missing 14.21.03 # Nico, try a make clean first 14.21.08 # nico: make clean 14.21.11 # Does svn handle the text<->binary file issue more clever than cvs? 14.21.11 # ah ok 14.21.12 # sorry 14.21.14 # There was an "oops" commit shortly afterwards as well - did you download that? 14.21.18 # safetydan: I'm not so fond of trac, it tries to do everything itself. 14.21.23 # amiconn, everything is binary by default I think 14.21.24 # amiconn: iirc, yes, it handles it using mime types 14.21.32 # we already have a wiki and source browser 14.21.50 # linuxstb: yes, i got the 'oops' one 14.21.54 # amiconn: that said, CVS can be largely mitigated in that area by just adding *.bmp to CVSROOT/cvswrappers :) 14.22.36 # Zagor, true. Their repository browser is very nice though. 14.22.41 # ok, works fine now after a 'make clean' 14.22.45 # didn't think of it... 14.23.25 # Had to do the same 14.23.39 # (although I prefer rm -r * in the build dir over 'make clean' 14.24.04 # 'make clean' also cleans the tools, which isn't necessary but costs time 14.24.06 # but then you have to configure again, don't you ? 14.24.10 # ..especially on cygwin 14.24.14 # Nico: yes 14.24.20 # Still faster 14.24.29 # ok 14.27.54 Quit DJ_Dooms_Day ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 14.30.51 Quit tucoz ("Leaving") 14.31.01 Part LinusN 14.36.37 Nick gtkspert_ is now known as gtkspert (n=gtkspert@203-59-171-80.dyn.iinet.net.au) 14.39.10 # needleboy: you there ? 14.41.53 Join webguest71 [0] (n=0cb706c2@labb.contactor.se) 14.44.04 # http://www.misticriver.net/showpost.php?p=398331&postcount=97 14.44.44 # iPod Color wps with album art 14.45.30 # wow horrible song 14.45.56 # Paprica: do you have the latest version of your scrolling margins patch ? 14.46.13 # the one pauljam made for needleboy 14.46.36 # btw, nice WPS ;) 14.46.48 # yeah thats pretty cool 14.47.27 # http://www.misticriver.net/showpost.php?p=397470&postcount=58 14.47.29 # 10x 14.47.31 # =] 14.48.00 # oh didn't see it.. thx 14.48.16 # maybe you should post it to the patch tracker, no ? 14.48.58 # yep 14.49.02 # i'll do that 14.49.38 Quit petur ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 14.50.14 # scroll margins should most probably be made with the viewport idea we've been bouncing around 14.50.39 # is this anything like that? 14.50.50 # B4gder: wan you explain the viewport concept ? i don't really understand what it is... 14.50.58 # wan -> can 14.51.06 # an amount of defined "boxes" 14.51.13 Join DT291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-32-194-202.bna.bellsouth.net) 14.51.16 # each having x,y, width, height and a font 14.51.27 # ok 14.51.30 # within each, text is given line-wise like today 14.51.37 # that would indeed be very cool 14.52.12 # is anyone working on it ? 14.52.41 # that's why I ask Paprica if he's approach is moving towards this or is different 14.52.52 # s/he's/his 14.53.35 # Nico: Regarding album art, I've been thinking that the best place to actually load the bitmaps from disk would be in the get_metadata() function in apps/metadata.c. This has two advantages: 1) The disk is already spinning, so prevents the need for extra disk spinups; and 2) It gives the potential to read the image from id3v2 (or other) tags. 14.53.46 # B4gder, the patch gives an option that you can set left margin and right margin for the text scrolling 14.54.03 # Paprica: that means no then 14.54.33 # right 14.54.53 # this viewport thing takes quite an effort as it involves lots of things 14.55.08 # all the idea for the patch is to give scroll margins for the wps 14.55.14 # for=of 14.55.39 Quit Matze41 ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 14.55.46 # linuxstb: thx, i'll look into it... maybe that way i can also get rid of some checks that i had to add because my function is called several times per track load 14.56.09 # B4gder, i think that linus start to work on it 14.56.10 Quit B4gder ("time to say moo") 14.56.11 # Nico: We would then need to use the audio buffer to store the images until that track is actually played. 14.56.13 # regarding ID3 album art, i think it will be a little hard for me 14.56.19 # lol 14.56.47 Quit tvelocity ("Αναχωρεί") 14.56.57 # linuxstb: when is get_metadata() called ? 14.57.02 # Nico: Yes, forget it for now - but IMO, whatever solution is commited to CVS for album art needs be able to support it in future. 14.57.25 # Nico: It's called just before the track is loaded from disk into the audio buffer. 14.58.56 # and is it easy for the gwps code to access the audio buffer ? 14.59.24 # currently the images are stored exactly in the same way as regular wps pictures 14.59.27 # well, almost 14.59.27 Join erus` [0] (n=tmo@ACD65276.ipt.aol.com) 14.59.58 # No - that part isn't easy. 15.00.29 # The problem is that we want to reduce the memory usage as much as possible, and also try and prevent any extra disk accesses. 15.02.04 # yeah that would be nifty for better battery life 15.02.32 # and would it be doable/effective to just call the album_art() function i have added to gwps-common.c from within get_metadata() ? 15.02.35 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.02.49 Join Thus0 [0] (n=Thus0@21.111.102-84.rev.gaoland.net) 15.03.43 # that's the function that does the album art loading, so if it's called by that function, it should benefit from the disk already spinning 15.04.02 # I think we need to take it one step at a time. The first step can be to implement something that minimises disk accesses, but wastes memory. We can then look and see how we can use the memory more efficiently. 15.05.17 # so how do we minimise disk access ? 15.05.18 # If you look in firmware/export/id3.h, you will see the definition of the "mp3entry" struct. You could add an "album_art" buffer to that structure that stores the album art for each track. 15.05.30 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-246-162.dsl.pipex.com) 15.06.00 # You will then need to modify get_metadata() to load the bmp file into that buffer, and you can easily access id3->album_art from the WPS. 15.06.20 # that sounds good 15.06.52 Join webguest07 [0] (n=55e23d22@labb.contactor.se) 15.06.58 # hey all 15.07.49 # im trying to install rockbox on my iPod 5G but gets this error when im trying to backup the bootpartition: Bad boot sector signature 15.08.02 # on a pc using ipodpatcher 0.3 15.08.23 # Have you tried different values for "N" with ipodpatcher? 15.08.48 # ipodpatcher only responds to value 1, all others give a not found response 15.09.02 # Also, it it a Mac-formatted or Windows-formatted iPod? 15.09.06 # mac 15.09.15 # That's why. 15.09.17 # aha 15.09.23 # so i have to do it on my mac? 15.09.47 # Rockbox doesn't work with Mac-formatted ipods - it can't read the files from the disk. You'll have to convert it to Windows. 15.09.48 Quit erus` () 15.10.06 # it doesnt work at all? 15.10.09 # darn 15.10.14 # Nope... 15.10.36 # well... my mac can read the windows partitioned ipod without problems i think 15.10.42 # Yes. 15.10.50 # it can 15.10.54 # so i guess its a one-time problem 15.11.18 # its always handy to have it in winblows format so you can use it on winblows computers if you need to 15.11.42 # they shouldnt even bother making 2 formats 15.11.52 # i guess... 15.12.26 # linuxstb: where is struct track_info defined ? 15.13.40 # apps/playback.h 15.14.23 # how fast is the fps on ipod 5G now? 15.15.19 # Raw lcd updates are at 52fps. 15.15.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.15.32 # and is the sound still breaking up sometimes? i read that it wasnt perfect yet 15.16.26 # If you just play the track and do nothing else with your ipod, then it's perfect. It's when using the UI at the same time that breakups happen, or if you are using a hard-to-decode codec and have enable the software EQ. 15.16.53 # ok... 15.17.26 # thanks a lot for your hard work 15.18.10 # np 15.18.59 # linuxstb: looks like i'm going to have to include screen_access.h in id3.h to be able to define a struct bitmap in mp3entry 15.19.04 # is that a problem ? 15.19.10 # Yes.... 15.19.12 Join webguest84 [0] (n=5462156a@labb.contactor.se) 15.19.50 # does h3x0 playback also break up at heavy lcd refresh rates? 15.19.51 Quit webguest84 (Client Quit) 15.19.52 Join DrMoos [0] (n=5462156a@labb.contactor.se) 15.20.06 # Nico: Code in firmware/ can't include code in apps/ - only the other way around. 15.20.14 # linuxstb: i thought it might be a problem... 15.20.27 Quit perldiver (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.20.42 # The id3 code needs moving to apps/, but it's not done yet. 15.20.51 Part Paul_The_Nerd 15.20.54 # are there any drawbacks with having a windows formatted ipod on a mac? 15.21.24 # i suppose it takes more than just moving a few files... right ? 15.22.22 # Yes... 15.23.23 # no webguest07, not really 15.23.43 # For now, you could just store the bitmap data as three variables in the mp3entry struct - width, height and an array for the image data. 15.24.28 # And setting width and/or height to zero will indicate no album art. 15.29.47 # but then will i be able to use read_bmp_file() ? probably not ? 15.30.08 # Yes. 15.30.37 Quit webguest07 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 15.30.48 # it needs a 'struct bitmap' 15.30.56 # You just setup a temporary struct bitmap. 15.31.15 # ok 15.33.04 # "struct bitmap" is defined in firmware/drivers/lcd.h - so you can use it in id3.h if you want. But it's not what you want - you need to actually store the bitmap data, not just a pointer to the bitmap data (which is what struct bitmap is). 15.34.20 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 15.34.44 Quit Kohlrabi (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.36.03 Quit TCK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.36.04 # do i need format and maskdata ? 15.36.49 # No - format will always be "native", and maskdata is only for transparency on greyscale LCDs, and I don't think we will use transparancy in album art. 15.37.04 # ok 15.37.52 # has anything cool happened to the nano rb in the past week? 15.38.19 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.38.33 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 15.38.43 Join godzirra [0] (n=shawn@c-24-125-58-133.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 15.38.45 # howdy folks. 15.39.21 # Any story on rockbox on the ipod video? 15.39.38 # yeahx: i suggest you subscribe to the commit mailing list if you're interested in following progress 15.39.51 # either that or read the cvs log on the site 15.40.39 # godzirra, apart from it working? 15.40.48 # * godzirra blinks. Wait... it works on the ipod video? 15.40.55 # sure 15.40.57 # last i heard it only worked on the nanos 15.40.57 # has for some time 15.41.04 # yeah I check that everyday and didnt think anything nano had changed but thought Id ask in case Im missing something 15.41.05 # Like I was in here talking with people about it last week 15.41.08 # it's worked on video for weeks 15.41.11 # and was told there's no sound playback 15.41.14 # has had audio for a week or so 15.41.18 # damn 15.41.24 # must have been like the day after I was in here talking about it lol 15.41.30 # yeahx: the nano isn't always mentioned explicitely 15.41.35 # yeahx, everything else that changes in Rockbox will also change the Nano 15.41.41 # Does video play too? 15.41.46 # no 15.41.50 # Is it being worked on? 15.42.37 # I was wondering about that 15.42.58 # boot back into original firmware for video 15.43.05 # Huh.. didnt know you could do that. 15.43.28 # How does that work since original firmware you have to use itunes and new firmware you cant use itunes (Or so I was told?) 15.44.16 # you have tunes in root for RB and then itunes songs hidden as usual 15.44.26 # ahh, ok. 15.44.53 # for me I put songs in root for rb that really need gapless playback 15.45.10 # How do you boot into the original firmware? And do I have to reformat my ipod or anything to get rockbox on it? And are the tunes already on it unable to be moved into the rockbox partitions? 15.45.13 # or ogg 15.45.24 # godzirra, http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ#How_do_I_access_music_that_I_hav 15.45.29 # Hehe.. thanks safetydan 15.45.50 # godzirra, and http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation#Starting_the_original_Apple_firm 15.46.22 # You rock. Thanks. 15.47.11 Join erus` [0] (n=tommo@ACD65276.ipt.aol.com) 15.49.58 Quit thegeek_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.51.38 # damnit. 15.51.52 # Just realized that the cable I have for my ipod isnt in my laptop bag for some reason. erk. 15.52.17 # needleboy, any chance you could reverse the cutoff settings in the EQs you ship in the optimised builds? I think they might be confusing people about how the EQ should be used (low frequencies should be managd by the low shelf filter for example) 15.54.43 Quit quobl (Remote closed the connection) 15.57.46 Join webguest41 [0] (n=c353fd01@labb.contactor.se) 15.57.53 Nick webguest41 is now known as plcRiver (n=c353fd01@labb.contactor.se) 15.58.05 # hi' 15.58.48 Join perpleXa [0] (i=perpleXa@dialin-145-254-178-117.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.01.22 Join quobl [0] (n=quobl@tor/session/x-53c6f71cd0b3531a) 16.02.39 # lostlogic ?? 16.03.09 # what is your GMT ?? 16.05.30 # ... Greenwich Mean Time 16.06.12 Join einhirn_ [0] (i=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 16.06.46 # I would return later... So long 16.06.53 Part plcRiver 16.07.59 # amiconn: yah 16.11.09 Join petur [0] (n=d4efd6a6@labb.contactor.se) 16.14.50 # linuxstb: i need a buffer where to store the bitmap data 16.15.13 # That's what I am saying should be in the mp3entry struct. 16.15.20 # when the data was stored like for the other wps images, it was data->img_buf_ptr 16.15.41 # ah ok 16.15.51 Quit einhirn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.15.59 # hmm, how many targets does rockbox need to support to bring on the End of Days? :) 16.16.43 # Nico: So in mp3entry, you will have "int albumart_width; int albumart_height; fb_data albumart_data[BUFFERSIZE];" 16.16.48 # man for some reason I can only extract rb if I put the zip on the nano and set stuffit expander to expand files to their own folder 16.16.50 # lostlogic: about two more 16.17.17 # but it takes forever, I need another unzipping program 16.17.19 # * linuxstb feels guilty for moving the iFP port one number higher with each ipod.... 16.17.27 # yeahx: Just use the "unzip" command. 16.17.48 # e.g. "unzip rockbox.zip -d /Volumes/IPOD/" (or whereever your ipod is mounted by Mac OS) 16.17.52 Quit needleboy () 16.18.17 # thank god for OSX -- windows compressed folders took ~90s to extract rockbox.zip unzip takes ~10s 16.18.26 # s/OSX/unzip/ 16.18.29 # what was I on? 16.19.57 # linuxstb: yes, I also have to move the gigabeat number higher all the time with all these new targets :) 16.20.04 # Im not good with the console 16.20.14 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-32-194-202.bna.bellsouth.net) 16.20.48 # terminal I mean 16.20.50 # see :) 16.21.25 # markun: What's stopping you from committing the Gigabeat to CVS? 16.21.36 # Or do you think it's too early? 16.22.13 # lostlogic: Voice is severely broken on swcodec and I suspect your pcm buffering changes 16.22.38 # Voice doesn't speak any more 16.23.24 # ..and today I had a nasty effect: I went to the menu to check the voice setting, while playing music, and apparently the voice tried to speak, 16.23.37 # but it froze rockbox instead 16.23.45 Join |Josh| [0] (i=user@unaffiliated/josh/x-000000001) 16.23.46 # yeah I dont even know how to tell it where the zip file is 16.23.56 # Not even 8-second shutdown was possible, I had to find a reset pin 16.24.10 # (this was on H340) 16.24.38 # linuxstb: I just have to clean it all up a bit 16.25.38 # amiconn: odd, I"ve not had it freeze, and it does play on my H340 with some fiddling to make it initialize correctly -- which leads me to believe that my changes may have shown up an existing problem, but are not a problem on their own... I'll retest -- I did test both with and without music playing before I committed... 16.30.07 Quit DT291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.30.12 # wow I did it 16.30.28 # nice 16.31.05 # linuxstb: the result of read_bmp_file is always -7... 16.31.41 # struct bitmap temp_bm; 16.31.41 # temp_bm.data=*track->id3.albumart_data; 16.31.41 # ret = read_bmp_file(strcat(path, "cover.bmp"), &temp_bm, 16.31.41 DBUG Enqueued KICK Nico 16.31.41 # sizeof(temp_bm), 16.31.41 # FORMAT_ANY|FORMAT_TRANSPARENT); 16.32.21 Quit |Josh| ("I'm Off..") 16.32.43 # Nico are you sure the strcat() returns the correct name ? 16.32.57 # yes 16.33.07 # and path ends with "/" ? 16.33.46 # yes 16.34.05 # Nico see what does -7 mean 16.34.06 # Also, you don't want "=*", just "=". 16.34.25 # and now its taking forever by the terminal instead 16.34.51 # amiconn: I just put a voice file on my player, and turned on voice and it works fine :-\ 16.34.52 # Or possibly =&track->id3.albumart_data[0]; (I get confused with arrays and pointers....) 16.35.51 # amiconn: during playback the first couple voice clips didn't play... that may be a bug in the new pcmbuf, but I'm definitely nto seeing what you are. 16.36.44 # -7 is "Bitmap is too large to fit the supplied buffer" 16.36.57 # but my bitmap is 75x75 and my buffer is 10000 16.36.59 # Your sizeof(temp_bm) is wrong. 16.37.13 # sizeof(*temp_bm) 16.37.18 # It should be sizeof(track->id3.albumart_data). 16.37.53 # ah, of course :) 16.38.09 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 16.38.09 # * Bg3r shuts up 16.38.15 # man why does it take so long just to unzip a little file to the nano? 16.38.26 # yeahx, USB 1 or USB 2? Or firewire? 16.38.29 # You should use the disk mode in Apple's firmware. 16.38.36 # I should have done this on my dull laptop maybe 16.38.40 # Not the "emergency disk mode". 16.38.45 # usb2 16.38.54 # Others have reported a very big difference between the two different disk modes on a Nano. 16.38.57 # what do you hold? 16.39.06 # Hold MENU as you boot. 16.39.34 # hmm ok 16.39.55 # Nico: Is your buffer 10000 bytes or 10000 "fb_data" ? 16.40.07 # fb_data albumart_data[10000]; 16.40.14 # OK. 16.40.22 # should that be good ? 16.40.25 # I thought it was something else for disk mode 16.40.28 # Yes, that's fine. 16.40.33 # ok I think its done yipeee 16.40.43 # because now its read_bmp_file which crashes 16.41.17 # yeahx: Yes, there are two disk modes - the "emergency disk mode" which you enter by pressing SELECT and PLAY whilst booting, and the normal disk mode that you get when you plug USB in with Apple's firmware running. 16.41.21 # at line 386 16.41.47 # the filename is good, it gets maxsize=20000 16.42.08 # What does your "temp_bm.data=" line look like? 16.42.23 # still temp_bm.data=*track->id3.albumart_data; 16.42.36 # That's the problem now. 16.42.41 # i'll try =&track->id3.albumart_data[0]; 16.42.45 # Yes. 16.43.40 # aahh :D ret=11250 16.45.11 Quit Thus0 ("Leaving") 16.46.14 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 16.49.12 Join LGMS [0] (n=54075edf@labb.contactor.se) 16.49.19 # amiconn: http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/2163/brickmania5ur.png 16.49.36 # hello 16.49.58 # LGMS: hi 16.50.19 # I was just trying bickmania on the nano 16.50.32 # yeahx, what do you think? 16.50.32 # too jerky 16.50.41 # =\ 16.50.41 # do you have problem when you apply the patch "croll-margin.patch"? 16.50.56 # "scroll-margin.patch" 16.51.00 # moo 16.51.08 # LGMS: http://www.misticriver.net/showpost.php?p=397470&postcount=58 16.51.17 Quit quobl (Remote closed the connection) 16.51.33 # the paddle seems to get stuck in spots or something 16.51.37 # amiconn: btw: I have had problems with voice not initializing properly upon boot up, but reselecting language fixes that -- and that I must pin upon slasheri's audio initialization changes to speed up boot from a while before I did pcmbuf changes. 16.51.45 # THANK YOU 16.52.06 # welcome 16.52.28 # yeahx, dont know what to say, i dont have nano 16.52.44 # could just be me 16.52.51 # on my h300 it works good 16.53.17 # how do you know if the nano is in emergency disc mode or regular? 16.54.42 # Regular will be in colour with the backlight on, emergency will be in black and white and (I think) no backlight. 16.55.24 # hmm ok 16.57.47 # what's the interest of the color_settings.patch? 16.58.20 # What do you mean? 16.58.31 # http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1435887&group_id=44306&atid=439120 16.58.45 # what's new? 16.59.57 # It adds options to change the fg and bg colours. 17.00.01 # I have some difficulties with english and I don't know what's the difference between a chooser instead of a and a menu... 17.00.32 # yeah but it already exist 17.01.43 # Does ipod video show cover art out of curiousity? 17.02.48 # LGMS: This is the patch: http://users.monash.edu.au/~jdgor1/rb/col_pic.bmp 17.03.09 # godzirra: No, but someone is working on it. 17.03.31 # Awesome. 17.03.42 # Damn I wish I had my usb cable so I could put on rockbox now. 17.03.48 # gonan see if my wife wants to go to lunch with me ;) 17.03.51 # and bring it for me 17.04.56 # linuxstb: I can't access to the site, I have a " Accès interdit!" 17.07.39 Quit DrMoos ("CGI:IRC") 17.08.24 # linuxstb: sorry it's ok by http://users.monash.edu.au/~jdgor1/rb/ 17.08.48 # linuxstb: thanks again! 17.09.17 Join SereR0kR [0] (n=Fletcher@Fd597.f.strato-dslnet.de) 17.09.37 Join Higgy_ [0] (n=not_eric@82.18.249.85) 17.09.47 # linuxstb: is an ipod mini port in development? 17.10.08 # just wondering, cos i've seen the cvs changes on the lcd drivers 17.11.22 # Yes - someone is working on it. 17.11.44 # do you know the display size? 17.12.45 # linuxstb: don't you think that picking a colour in HSV would be nicer than RGB? 17.12.59 # perpleXa: 138x110 17.13.02 # it should work now but it doesnt,and i suspect this line : 17.13.03 # data->album_cover.bm.data = &gwps->state->id3->albumart_data[0]; 17.13.15 # thx 17.13.22 # i also tried plain data->album_cover.bm.data = gwps->state->id3->albumart_data; 17.13.25 # perpleXa: Why do you need to do that? 17.13.29 # but that didn't work either 17.13.58 # You can just make the wps code display the album art directly from id3->albumart_data 17.14.06 Join Thus0 [0] (n=Thus0@21.111.102-84.rev.gaoland.net) 17.14.11 # i just wanted to know that, i've still my old ipod mini that lies somewhere around here 17.14.12 # perpleXa: Sorry, I meant Nico:... 17.14.20 # oh 17.14.23 # :> 17.14.37 # perpleXa: Time to get your old mini out and install Rockbox then.... 17.14.49 # yeah 17.14.56 # * linuxstb realises he forgot to commit a file for the Mini... 17.15.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.16.06 Join hshah [0] (n=hshah@hirenshah.plus.com) 17.16.15 Part hshah ("Leaving") 17.20.40 # yay it works 17.21.13 # got to go but i'll be back soon to polish things a bit :) 17.21.39 Join perl|fbi [0] (n=say@cpe-66-65-89-236.nyc.res.rr.com) 17.21.49 # Nico: Nice work. I'll look forward to seeing the patch. 17.22.34 # so next question.. if you are charging your ipod video (with rockbox) via USB, can you play it at the same time? 17.22.54 # markun: Yes, HSV would be nicer - especially on our 320x240 screens. 17.23.03 # godzirra: Yes. 17.23.06 # woo 17.23.08 # god that makes me happy. 17.23.16 # You can do that in Apple's firmware as well. 17.23.23 # not witha video. 17.23.29 # at least not that I 17.23.31 # oops 17.23.40 # at least not that I've seen, nor did calling apple help. they said you cant. 17.24.10 # What happens if you connect it to your computer, and the "eject" it, but without unplugging the usb cable? 17.24.14 # charging with an ac-supply doesnt affect the functionality 17.24.35 # It stops charging. 17.24.45 # linuxstb: its horribly annoying. 17.24.47 # godzirra: In Rockbox, hold down the MENU key as you insert the USB cable, and it should charge. 17.24.58 # But maybe there is a hardware reason why the Apple firmware does that. 17.25.03 Quit Thus0 ("Leaving") 17.25.05 # I think its a power ocnsumption thing. 17.25.08 # i.e. Rockbox shouldn't do it either. 17.25.10 # USB can only carry 5 volts right? 17.25.20 # Might not be enough to charge and play at the same time. 17.25.33 # But I dont know the power requirements so thats just a guess. 17.25.51 # No work has been done on that part of Rockbox for the ipod yet - so we'll find out in time. 17.28.57 # 5 volts doesn't matter 17.29.08 # but you have just 500 mA on a normal usb port 17.31.35 Quit stamppot (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.32.08 # I'm poor on my electrical engineering, so I dont know what all you need. 17.32.33 # Just a guess. I know you can power a usb device via usb connection, just not sure if you can power it and play something that requires spinning up a hard drive. 17.32.51 # lostlogic: I'll re-check various constellations as well, 17.33.05 # but there's another problem I encountered some days ago: 17.33.29 Quit erus` (Remote closed the connection) 17.34.10 Quit perpleXa ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.01 :: www.XLhost.de )") 17.34.48 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-142-033.pools.arcor-ip.net) 17.35.58 Join erus` [0] (n=tommo@ACD65276.ipt.aol.com) 17.41.30 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ipa187.11.tellas.gr) 17.43.18 # amiconn? 17.44.27 # Sometimes the voice clips are queued up but not played while music is playing. Stopping music playback triggers output of the queued voice clips 17.44.54 # amiconn: *nod* that and the missing first couple during music playback are probably mine, and I'll look into them... 17.45.44 Part petur 17.53.06 Quit LGMS ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 17.55.47 Quit tvelocity ("Αναχωρεί") 17.55.56 Join bluey [0] (n=bluey@dslb-084-059-098-010.pools.arcor-ip.net) 17.57.39 Join tenzing [0] (n=mat@jullay.net) 18.01.00 # Paprica: Looks like something usable. I can tell more when testing on the real thing though 18.01.18 # ok 18.01.32 # it will be complete in the night 18.07.36 Join quobl [0] (n=quobl@tor/session/x-01a077e0449e5fd5) 18.09.33 # There will be a visual difference between sim and target, because of the non-square LCD pixels 18.10.06 # If the image looks a bit vertically squeezed in the sim, it will look right on target 18.10.27 Quit merbanan (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.10.47 Join merbanan [0] (i=banan@dalink.campus.luth.se) 18.11.23 # amiconn, you have the ONDIO or RECORDER 18.12.04 # I have both, but the LCD is the same 18.12.19 Quit merbanan (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.12.49 # ok i compile a brickmania for the ondio 18.12.59 # could you try it? 18.12.59 # I mean physically the same, archos reused most of the recorder design for the Ondio 18.13.11 # Not right now, but in an hour or so 18.13.18 # (Ondio @home) 18.13.31 # and the recorder with you? 18.13.38 # The only difference is that the Ondio has no backlight 18.13.43 # Nope, H340 with me 18.14.25 # ok 18.14.59 Join webguest30 [0] (n=cd9924ab@labb.contactor.se) 18.15.02 # which version of Ondio/Recorder i need to compile for you? 18.15.42 Quit webguest30 (Client Quit) 18.16.46 # Either of recorder v1, Ondio FM or Ondio SP will do 18.16.58 # No FM or V2 18.17.23 # ok 18.28.57 Quit mikearthur (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.29.20 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 18.30.11 Join hyarion_ [0] (i=hyarion@montezuma.acc.umu.se) 18.31.23 Join Matze41 [0] (n=Miranda@p5484CEE2.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.35.08 Quit hyarion (">:-/") 18.35.28 # amiconn, http://rapidshare.de/files/13802141/brickmania.rock.html , Ondio FM 18.35.51 Nick hyarion_ is now known as hyarion (i=hyarion@montezuma.acc.umu.se) 18.36.56 Nick Paprica is now known as Paprica[BBL] (n=Paprica@CBL217-132-67-150.bb.netvision.net.il) 18.36.56 DBUG Enqueued KICK Paprica[BBL] 18.37.37 Join merbanan [0] (i=banan@dalink.campus.luth.se) 18.49.56 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@labb.contactor.se) 18.50.10 Quit Matze41 ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 18.51.42 Join DT291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-32-194-202.bna.bellsouth.net) 18.53.24 Join Grackshrike [0] (n=alex@d-66-63-85-222.suscom-maine.net) 18.54.20 # Has anyone ever run rockbox on a homebrew mp3 player? 18.55.44 # yeah 18.55.50 # I've been looking into building my own IDE HD based mp3 player, and one of my friends mentioned Rockbox to me, saying it might be easier to reverse-reverse engineer an mp3 player, adding IDE support and using Rockbox. I don't know how doable that is, but I'm reading up on it. 18.55.53 # some guy has 18.55.57 # Cool, hmm. 18.56.04 # Do you have a link? 18.56.09 # nah 18.56.14 # he made a player that resembled the h120 18.56.20 # but with some differences 18.56.25 # like another sound chip 18.56.36 # That's cool. 18.57.50 # but yeah 18.58.03 # doing the software is a more time-consuming thing than doing the hardware 18.58.05 # by far 18.59.09 # Yeah, I'm sure. It's all documented, so it shouldn't be too hard to remake the HW if you know what you're doing. Unfortunately, I don't really know what I'm doing, but I can learn. :) 18.59.29 Quit mikearthur (Remote closed the connection) 18.59.32 # So that's what I'm doing right now, reading. 18.59.52 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 19.01.36 # Oh, Rockbox doesn't do audible FF/FR.. I guess that's not really a problem, it GUI makes up for that. 19.02.25 # Some of the homebrew mp3 players I've seen have non realtime mp3 codecs like the Rockbox one, and a very simple GUI, so that function was kind of limited. 19.03.04 Quit DreamTactix291 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.05.17 # non-realtime? 19.05.24 # the rockbox mp3 codec is realtime 19.08.49 # Oh, non-realtime /en/coding. 19.09.25 # that is realtime too 19.09.28 # So what keeps it from FF/FR'ing with sound? 19.09.33 # we just don't do it 19.10.18 # that'd require us to be able to parse all our codec bitstreams very intimately 19.10.27 # we just don't see a reason to spend so much time on such a small feature 19.10.34 # Ahh, ok. 19.11.04 # but it's always possible someone comes up with a patch of course 19.11.44 # indeed 19.11.49 # but it'll require quite a bit of work 19.12.38 # markun: at least you gigabeat people have enough cpu power to just bruteforce decode whatever codec you use very fast 19.12.43 # for a tape like ff/rw effect 19.12.44 # heh 19.13.54 # I hope we can get better battery time than the stock firmware buy under clocking 19.14.15 # maybe a super-boost level for things like video decoding.. 19.14.25 Quit einhirn_ ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 19.14.30 # s/buy/by :) 19.14.35 # what battery time does that get? 19.14.58 # Toshiba claims 14 and someone even got 17 19.15.10 # They spin up the HD before every song.. 19.15.13 # ahahaha 19.15.26 # i bet they don't exactly supercharge the cpu, though 19.15.38 # but with that approach to power saving, they just might... 19.15.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.15.44 # how much ram has it got? 19.15.48 # In the bootloader the CPU is set to 296 MHz 19.15.55 # ghahahaha 19.15.57 # only 32 19.16.07 # has it got line in? 19.16.26 # no 19.16.29 # something like that sounds just grand for my effect box project 19.16.30 # :/// 19.16.37 # You could mod it.. 19.17.01 # solder some wires to the wolfson and connect them through some unused pins on the dock connector 19.17.25 # so, how far are you in having a bootloader or something going? 19.18.07 # and how'd you find out what regs control cpu freq and such? 19.18.18 # At first I thought I only had to copy the rockbox kernel to the beginning of the SDRAM, but I also need to set up the MMU to map the beginning of SDRAM to address 0 19.18.36 # It's all documented 19.18.54 # where? 19.19.27 # In the s3c2440 manual: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatInfo 19.19.49 # so, what's keeping you from remapping the ram right now? 19.20.03 # time? And I'm lazy.. 19.21.14 # I looked at the linux source how they set up the TLB, it's not that difficult 19.21.29 # no, i'd be surprised if it was 19.21.40 # so you've got a better linux source now? 19.21.54 # Have you worked out how you can safely get your own code running yet? 19.24.49 Join Flopy [0] (n=flopy@host165.201-252-54.telecom.net.ar) 19.24.57 # hola 19.25.02 # alguein habla espaoil? 19.25.15 # flacos son estupidos? 19.25.19 # no hay nadie q le gusten el rock 19.25.20 # STONES 19.25.26 # cvhau esta n de la cabeza 19.25.27 # putos 19.25.30 # aajaj la concha de su madre 19.25.31 # 5 timers 19.25.31 # ajajaj 19.25.32 # :P 19.25.33 DBUG Enqueued KICK Flopy 19.25.33 # chau 19.25.34 # even amiconn will be jealous 19.25.35 # jajaahahajaajajaj 19.25.37 # ajaahahahhaah 19.25.38 # ;O 19.25.40 # :P:P 19.25.44 Part Flopy 19.25.55 # yes, irc is fun 19.26.20 Join lodesi [0] (n=moi@lns-bzn-30-82-253-159-55.adsl.proxad.net) 19.26.48 # what a cool guy.. 19.27.45 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-45-3.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 19.27.55 # damn, this thing really is packed with features 19.28.05 # markun: Do you have a datasheet for your Wolfson DAC? 19.28.11 # yes 19.28.35 # http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/uploads/documents/WM8751.pdf 19.29.30 # preglow: I won't be jealous, SH1 has 5 timers as well 19.29.52 # right, thought it had four 19.29.55 # Uhh, wtf. http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ManualRockboxInstall In the section "For Non-Windows Users" it says that the jukebox will show up as a drive letter in your "My Computer" folder. AFAIK, Windows is the only OS that uses "My Computer." Maybe that should be fixed, or changed to "Windows Users Who Want To Do It The Hard Way" 19.30.03 # Silly coldfire only has 2 19.30.12 # Er, nvm. 19.30.18 # pp also seems to only have two 19.30.20 # markun: That's register-compatible with the one in the 4G ipods and Nano. (WM8975). 19.30.22 # That's what it says, I just didn't read it enough. :P 19.30.24 # at least ipl haven't found more 19.31.55 # markun: but yeah, you've got a better linux source now? 19.32.37 # preglow: well, not better. Just the source they used. And I've looked at the source of some more recent kernels. 19.32.55 # linuxstb: (configure changes) Shifting existing target IDs isn't a good idea. The target id is used to check whether plugins and codecs match the core 19.33.20 # (no biggie with the iFP790 though, as iFP support is rather new) 19.34.49 # Do I need the original firmware files to flash Rockbox onto an Archos jukebox? 19.35.07 # no 19.35.15 # But the iRiver does, correct? 19.35.20 # yes 19.35.34 # Okay, just wanted to clarify that. 19.35.58 # I guess I can't build my own iRiver unless I know how to make my own firmware, which I don't. 19.36.24 # Or if I get the firmware from someone, which is zomg illegal. 19.37.04 # markun: yeah, but you've gotten your hands on their modifications as well? 19.37.47 # you don't have to make an _exact_ iriver clone 19.37.56 # all you have to do is use some sort of platform we supports 19.38.06 # and right now, coldfire is the best if you want software codecs 19.38.21 Part LinusN 19.38.44 # getting your hands on portalplayer chips is probably pretty damn impossible, so it's probably your only choice 19.39.07 Join RotAtoR [0] (n=e@12-210-82-91.client.insightBB.com) 19.41.52 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-3-87.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 19.43.11 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.43.17 # Paprica[BBL] ? 19.44.25 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@labb.contactor.se) 19.49.28 # Would anyone be interested in having the audio thread debug screen available in the sim? 19.50.18 Join webguest07 [0] (n=44e92636@labb.contactor.se) 19.52.18 # hello 19.52.29 Quit webguest07 (Client Quit) 19.53.07 # safetydan: if it's not a big hack, then sure 19.53.14 # safetydan: i can see it being useful there as well 19.53.33 # preglow, well I have it now as a big hack, I was just wondering if it was worth trying to clean it up 19.53.53 # If I can do it cleanly, I'll try and commit it 19.54.21 Join heyrew [0] (i=hyhiiy@68-233-38-54.bflony.adelphia.net) 19.55.02 # Quick question: you never get BUTTON_REL or BUTTON_REPEAT with ipod scroll events, correct? 19.56.11 # I just tried the Brickmania .rock with my Ondio FM - works great, thanks 19.56.34 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.57.19 # safetydan: well, all the stuff (except for boost) that the audio debug screen shows is also relevant for sim 19.57.22 # safetydan: so i say go ahead 19.59.13 # For the sake of curiosity, could someone please compile Rockboy for Ondio FM 19.59.42 # heyrew: what about it? 19.59.50 # I've read the Ondio processor is faster than the other Archos players - is that true? 19.59.59 # rockbox.ipod is the file the bootloader loads, correct? 20.00.02 # yeah, it's 12mhz or something 20.00.12 # imphasing: aye 20.00.18 # alright, cool 20.00.22 # has anyone tried running Rockbox on the Ondio 20.00.28 # I know there's the button problem 20.00.33 # but for benchmark purposes 20.00.42 Join webguest66 [0] (n=d4406110@labb.contactor.se) 20.01.46 # it's only about 1 mhz faster, afaik 20.02.26 # The Ondio (and Player) is clocked at exactly 12MHz while the recorders are clocked at 11.0592 MHz 20.02.26 # ah, ok 20.02.55 # So rockboy should be about 8.5% faster 20.04.07 # will the Rockboy plugin/player from any of the other builds work on the Ondio 20.04.18 # or does it have to be compiled seperately 20.04.54 # if a players HDD is u/s, would it be possible to reflash the unit with original firmware if it was on the HDD ? 20.05.48 # heyrew: It will have to be compiled separately, and for that, someone would have to find a solution for the lack of buttons 20.06.02 # i got this sudden bloody urge to make an echo dsp option on rockbox.... 20.06.35 # realtime convolution 20.06.40 # *Please* make stereo width working before that... 20.06.45 # Mikachu: convolution is no fun 20.06.49 # preglow: what ever happened to the darth vadar thing? :P 20.06.53 # safetydan, have you had a look at the playlist patch ? 20.06.54 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.06.54 # i just said something i know uses tons of cpu 20.07.05 # ghode|afk: i haven't gotten around to anything like that yet 20.09.19 # can't you make it so that on Ondio with Rockboy, the power button is mapped as "A" and the mode button is mapped as "B" - that way the power button only exits out of Rockboy after an extended press 20.09.37 # but I still don't know what you'd do about "pause" 20.09.41 # webguest66, yes. it has some issues that will take a while to sort out 20.10.01 # thanks 20.10.28 # webguest66, if the guy who wrote it came back with the improved version that he said he had, things would be easier 20.10.44 # preglow, http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1436116&group_id=44306&atid=439120 20.10.49 # yeah, saw 20.10.57 # that's right, you get mailed on those 20.11.05 # ah! i accidentally entered the pitch screen now 20.11.15 # lucky you 20.11.16 # and i tried to enable that for like half an hour the other day 20.11.20 # now change that pitch to 200% 20.11.23 # now to make use of it to try and find out what is going on with SDL sim sound 20.11.23 # looks like i succeeded but made the keybind a bit wonky 20.11.29 # i added a menu entry to change the pitch instead :) 20.11.36 # under my submenu Shut Down 20.12.10 # also, if you set the plugin_buffer_size to 30MB, playback doesn't work 20.13.01 # hrmm... and it tells me... nothing. darn 20.13.15 # safetydan, the original author of that patch wont be aorund for a while due to college & studies, well that's according to his post anyway 20.16.03 # aOk, I have a few questions... I just ran through the ipod video installation instructions 20.16.41 # after I did step "F" (ipodpatcher -w N rockboot.bin .. where for me N was 1) and then disconnected my ipod like normal as per the instructions. 20.16.53 # I didnt get the tiny blue text screen that was the rockbox bootloader 20.17.00 # in fact, my ipod didnt reboot at all afte runplugging it. 20.18.08 Quit bluey ("Leaving") 20.18.35 # Any suggestions? :) 20.19.08 # try a manual reboot, if not try the process again. 20.19.54 # ok. hrm. How do I manually reboot? 20.20.12 # select + MENU i think 20.20.23 # hold them down for 5 seconds or so 20.21.12 # ok.. I rebooted and I'm sitting at the apple logo atm. 20.21.15 Join bluey [0] (n=bluey@dslb-084-059-107-238.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.21.19 # Hrm. definitely diddnt work 20.21.23 Join ssnajper [0] (n=c635c9fe@labb.contactor.se) 20.22.33 # What should I see when I run the ipodpatcher 1 rockboot.bin ? 20.22.44 # because when I run it, I get the exact same thing I got the first time. 20.22.53 Part webguest66 20.23.04 # At last I got back my RMAed H340, I have the package right in front of me :D 20.23.09 # Now lets see.... 20.23.35 # did you use this "ipodpatcher -w N rockboot.bin" with the -w? 20.23.49 # seems iriver has refused to repair a unit on warranty because of rockbox now 20.24.04 # Nope.. the docs say ipodpatcher N rockboot.bin 20.24.06 # should I use w? 20.24.11 # preglow: that sucks :( 20.24.19 # crap 20.24.22 # the docs do say -w 20.24.24 # sorry. I'm an idjit. 20.24.27 # yes :P 20.24.50 # I swear I re-read that three times. Thanks. :( 20.24.51 Join Matze41 [0] (i=Miranda@p5484CEE2.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.24.59 # yes, the docs do say it, not that you are an idjit :P 20.25.15 # hehe 20.25.17 # Woo 20.25.19 # We have rockbox. 20.25.21 Quit Matze41 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.25.21 Ctcp Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 48 minutes and 37 seconds at the last flood 20.25.21 # * godzirra does the happy dance. 20.25.34 # i saw that slimx got the menu loading on the 3g, does it fully work yet? 20.25.42 Quit heyrew () 20.25.44 # wow that was neat. When I plugged in the usb cable my ipod rebooted and showed the apple logo. 20.25.50 # or it flashed the apple logo 20.25.53 # hrm... maybe it didnt reboot 20.25.55 # that was very odd. 20.26.12 # and it started up itunes too. 20.26.19 # i think its best not to have the usb cable plugged in when booting rbx 20.26.31 # I wasnt booting rockbox. 20.26.34 # It was already booted 20.26.51 # I plugged in the usb cable and it popped up the apple logo for a second and now is flashing the "do not disconnect" logo. (but not the normal logo I usually have....) 20.27.08 # monochrome? 20.27.30 # no this is not possible..... 20.27.37 # i think usb detection on the 5g is not the best atm,not 100% though 20.27.37 # I can't belive this 20.27.44 # they didn't fix it 20.27.57 # FOR GODS SAKE 20.28.11 # Mikachu: yes, monochrome. 20.28.29 # XavierGr: That's not good.... 20.28.51 # when I ejected the normal way, it rebooted again 20.28.54 # into rockbox 20.29.34 # XavierGr what was is/was broken?` 20.29.37 # anybody on 3g status? 20.29.40 # USBOTG 20.29.57 # I made various measurements to be sure that it wasn't the cable 20.30.01 # Mikachu: do you know what is going on with it? 20.30.03 # slimx was working on 3G 20.30.11 # I have a working 3G bootloader too 20.30.19 # Not sure of the total status though 20.30.49 # i read he got menu loading but not sure if he got any further 20.31.34 # preglow: btw, did I even show you the diff I made from the original linux source and the one from toshiba? 20.31.52 # markun: no 20.32.45 # http://130.89.160.166/Gigabeat/patch-2.4.18-rmk6-gb4r.bz2 20.32.45 # Yeah, my ipod immediately reboots into what at a quick glances seems to be apples "emergency recovery mode" as soon as I plug in a usb cable 20.33.01 # when you're in rockbox? 20.33.02 # anyone know what may be going on? 20.33.06 # Mikachu: Yup. I'm in rockbox 20.33.11 # I plugin the usb cable 20.33.11 # i think that's a feature 20.33.19 # it flashes a quick apple logo 20.33.19 # rockbox doesn't handle filetransfers yet 20.33.22 # then says do not disconnect. 20.33.27 # Oh. Huh. 20.33.29 # yeah, i'm pretty sure i saw code to do that 20.33.38 # ok, as long as thats what its supposed to do lol 20.33.40 # was just odd to see. 20.34.07 Join xmixahlx [0] (n=xmixahlx@64.122.111.98) 20.35.45 # markun: what is the coprocessor? 20.37.45 # preglow: there are 2 internal coprocessors for debugging and memory management 20.38.05 # It's a feature of the ARM920T 20.38.24 # Does anyone know where to get foo_pod for foobar2000? I installed foobar2000 to try and get my stuff working correctly but no luck. 20.38.32 # working correctly in rockbox and ipod firmware. 20.38.32 Quit ssnajper ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 20.38.33 # I meant 20.40.32 # godzirra: why don't you use google? 20.42.58 # I did, and havent been able to find it. I find a lot of places referencing it, but no places to actually download it. 20.43.04 # And I always google before asking in irc ;) 20.43.33 # crap. foopod and foo_pod return very different results. 20.44.07 # godzirra: http://loodi.com/foo_pod.zip 20.46.25 # I found it, thank you. 20.46.29 # I was searching for foopod 20.46.30 # not foo_pod 20.47.36 # does rockbox support color in wps files? 20.48.17 Join Henrico [0] (n=henrico@cn-mss-cb01-2587.dial.kabelfoon.nl) 20.55.49 # You can use colour bmp files, but at the moment, you can't change the text colour. 20.57.09 # would be nice if we had a default rockbox backdrop in svg 20.58.52 # Gotcha. 20.59.01 # Whats svg? 20.59.33 # utgl 21.00.57 Quit erus` (Remote closed the connection) 21.01.19 Join slimx [0] (n=slimx@vau75-7-82-234-251-56.fbx.proxad.net) 21.02.58 # wah, bug in asm memset16 :( 21.03.59 Join erus` [0] (n=tommo@ACD65276.ipt.aol.com) 21.06.50 # Can someone using Firefox (preferably under Debian) tell me if they can see the text in the "code" box on this page? http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=41656 21.06.58 # For some reason, it's completely blank for me.... 21.07.10 # i can, ubuntu 21.07.16 # so at least it's close to debian :> 21.07.47 # i can in galeon, compiled against firefox on gentoo :P 21.08.20 # will the ffmpeg wma decoder take all wmas? 21.08.20 # :( 21.08.25 # that are not protected, that is 21.09.21 # i also can 21.09.29 # in my lfs 21.09.37 # linuxstb: i'm going to update my patch soon 21.09.46 # (album art) 21.09.54 # it seems to work nicely 21.10.04 # what firefox version do you run ? 21.10.09 # preglow: It calls itself a "wma v2" decoder - I think that's the main version in use, apart from "wma pro". 21.10.14 Quit mirak (Connection timed out) 21.10.51 # oh damn SF is down 21.11.07 # linuxstb: Working here as well, on debian sid, amd64 21.11.18 # firefox 1.5.0.1 21.11.21 # slimx: 1.0.4 Guess it's time to upgrade.... 21.11.31 Join lokki [0] (n=5449043c@labb.contactor.se) 21.11.31 Join muesli- [0] (n=muesli_t@88.134.20.76) 21.12.27 # linuxstb: for your problem with firefox... what happens if you rightclick on the code part and select view source? 21.12.54 # have you perhaps changed the default font color? 21.13.01 # 1.0.4 is stone-age for firefox 21.13.13 # yes it is linuxstb 21.13.14 # :) 21.13.29 # linuxstb: the problem with the fact of storing the album art in mp3entry is that i need to load it at each track change and not only when the dir changes 21.14.02 # I've just installed 1.5.0.1... I can now see the text, but it is corrupted - looks like some kind offont problem. 21.14.26 # :p 21.14.27 # you probably mean 1.0.5 ... 21.14.40 # :-) 21.14.44 # Nope - it's telling me 1.5.0.1... 21.14.47 # you're not using nvidia with renderaccel on and gtk 2.8.x or higher? 21.14.55 # if linux 21.15.02 # Possibly... I am using nvidia and gnome. 21.15.06 # 1.5.0.1 is very ok 21.15.18 # there are some problems with renderaccel i think 21.15.21 # you could try turning it off 21.15.33 # How would I do that? 21.15.35 # hey linuxstb the bootloader in cvs is bad and just can't work 21.15.35 Quit lokki (Client Quit) 21.15.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.16.01 # slimx: Do you mean for the 3g, or all bootloaders? 21.16.10 # 3g only 21.16.18 # if it's not listed in your xorg.conf it's not enabled 21.16.46 # the assembler code use the bad iram start addr 21.16.50 # xorg.conf? I've got an XF86Config-4... 21.16.58 # in there then 21.17.26 # I can't see it. 21.17.26 # slimx: iram address is the same for both pp5002 and pp5020 21.17.57 # it is dram 21.18.03 # sorry 21.18.04 # :) 21.20.11 # preglow, can you commit this change in cvs ? 21.20.58 Quit bluey ("Leaving") 21.21.32 # slimx: I can do it. It's 0x28000000 for the PP5002? 21.21.58 # yes linuxstb 21.22.02 Quit Paprica[BBL] (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.22.13 # if you want i can paste the code :) 21.22.38 # How can I use the DRAM_START define in the inline assembler? 21.22.54 # i don't know 21.23.02 # preglow: "WMA 9 is backward-compatible with previous Windows Media Audio-compatible decoders, which means that WMA 9 content can be played with previous versions of Windows Media Player" 21.23.05 Join ModernExecutive [0] (n=ModExec@wm204-165.unwired-grad.wm.edu) 21.23.21 # linus get his h300? 21.24.32 # linuxstb: Inline assembler as asm( ) ? 21.24.47 # and what kind, i.e. freestanding or within a function? 21.25.05 # Yes - if you look in bootloader/ipod.c, and search for "#0x10000000" - I want to replace that by DRAM_START 21.25.29 # search this in the main function 21.25.31 # http://nicolas.pennequin.free.fr/album_art/album_art_v3.patch 21.25.32 # :) 21.26.13 # linuxstb: 21.26.25 # "mov r0, #0x10000000 \n" 21.26.28 # oops 21.26.35 # :) 21.26.48 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.27.17 # It's a bit tricky. First you need two macros to stringify and evaluate: 21.27.32 # #define XSC(X) #X 21.27.40 # #define SC(X) XSC(X) 21.27.44 # Then you can use: 21.28.04 Part ModernExecutive 21.28.10 # "mov r0, #" SC(DRAM_START) " \n" 21.28.36 # I understand... 21.29.07 # Thanks. 21.29.40 # it's a better way :) 21.33.46 Quit ender` (" Never put off til tomorow what you can skip altogether.") 21.34.47 Quit Henrico ("gtkBitchX: it's what's for lunch") 21.36.51 # Perhaps "mov r0,#" #DRAM_START " \n" will also work 21.37.09 # The two-macro solution can also calculate, 21.37.53 # e.g. "mov r0,#" SC(VAL1|VAL2) "\n" 21.40.06 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-26-194.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.42.16 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 21.44.02 Join Matze41 [0] (i=Miranda@p5484CEE2.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.49.54 # i've a bug in usb.c :p 21.50.18 # when USB_NONE is defined 21.50.45 # rockbox fail to build 21.50.47 # USB_NONE hasn't been used for ages 21.51.01 # but i have to :p 21.51.06 # It's a remnant from neo support 21.51.09 # https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1434758&group_id=44306&atid=439120 21.51.11 # ...which never really worked 21.51.30 # it just need the usb_wait_for_disconnect function 21.51.42 # Huh? 21.51.48 # and build correctly after adding it 21.51.52 # USB_NONE should never need that 21.52.11 # but it is used in the apps 21.52.42 # Most probably in USB_SCREEN only 21.52.56 # ...which shouldn't be built in for USB_NONE either 21.53.15 # also in playlist.c 21.53.21 # and playback.c 21.53.39 # Ah, yes 21.53.46 # Should be an empty macro then 21.53.57 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.53.58 # ld told me it :) 21.54.21 # i've added an empty function though 21.54.27 # (or the section(s) dealing with USB ifdefed out) 21.55.08 # That would reduce dead code, which is A Good Thing 21.55.49 # Btw, what are you doing with USB_NONE? 21.56.57 # ipodlinux have nothing to deal with usb for 3g so i need it 22.01.30 # Rockbox doesn't really deal with USB on the other iPods either 22.01.31 Join yeahx_ [0] (n=aarond@c-67-160-124-13.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 22.01.47 # Afaik the only thing it does is reboot the iPod in disk mode 22.02.11 # i know 22.02.49 # but the usb driver just freeze ipod3g 22.03.18 # and without it, it load's properly 22.03.52 # i don't think it's really important to get something to deal with usb right now 22.04.31 # and just adding this function solve the bug for 3g 22.05.59 # otherwise i can try to remove the calls in apps 22.06.31 # Nico: I've just been looking at your patch. Why do you need a special "no cover" bitmap? Shouldn't that be part of the backdrop image for the wps? 22.06.39 Join solexx [0] (n=jrschulz@c169067.adsl.hansenet.de) 22.07.02 # Hah, now that was a silly bug in memset16(9 :-) 22.07.19 # I just forgot to change a move.b into move.w ... 22.08.54 # amiconn: :) 22.09.42 # amiconn: I took a look at trying to enhance the dsp code using line read/write but I couldn't find anywhere where the code size increase wouldn't completely offset any gains :( any suggestions? 22.11.14 Quit Matze41 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.12.25 Quit yeahx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.14.29 # lostlogic: Hmm, not really. Line burst reads/writes should substantially increase performance, unless memory access is only a minor part of dsp operation 22.14.38 # (which I guess it's not) 22.15.12 # Anyone got an idea where size_t is defined? 22.15.22 # (for rockbox) 22.15.40 # string.h includes stddef.h, but there is no stddef.h in the rockbox sources... 22.16.00 # amiconn: Yeah -- there's plenty of places where we're reading a sample, doing 2-3 instructions on it and then saving it -- so in theory this should be optimizeable -- but I keep finding it to be slower because it takes so much more code to read 4 samples, operate on 4 samples and save more samples :-\ 22.16.09 # amiconn: ./firmware/include/sys/types.h 22.16.34 # find . -name "*.h" | xargs grep " *typedef.*size_t" 22.16.50 # Oops, overlooked this one 22.17.01 # I *did* look at sys/types.h ... 22.17.09 # :-) 22.17.17 # I love bagder's "teach a man to fish" method of answering questions, always answer with a 1 liner 22.17.20 # ;) 22.17.40 # The fxgrp&\/! stuff is too cryptic 22.17.51 # regexp is your friend 22.18.03 Quit solexx_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.18.16 # Still, string.h includes a non-existing file... 22.25.24 # linuxstb: about the 'no cover' bitmap... it's true it's not really necessary 22.25.43 # when i started the patch i first looked how to display that one 22.26.09 # but i think i will remove it 22.26.17 # the loading one too 22.29.32 # Yes, that will simplify things - you then just need %C|x|y| 22.30.12 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-24-235.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr) 22.30.16 # But I'm still trying to think of a good way to store the images.... 22.30.38 # isn't the current one a good one ? 22.31.22 Quit midkay (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.31.31 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@24.143.70.99) 22.31.36 # The problem is that each of your albumart_data[] arrays is 20000 bytes. And there are 32 mp3entry structs stored in memory... 22.31.58 # wow 22.32.21 # 32 is the maximum number of tracks Rockbox will buffer at the same time. 22.32.37 # we need to move to dymanically allocating those -- which is on the docket for devcon 22.32.57 # I was thinking of using the audio buffer, and storing them before the audio data for the track. 22.33.17 # storing several album arts is good, but many are duplicate 22.33.22 # The playback code would then have to copy the image for the current track to a fixed buffer. 22.33.32 # that could be done... 22.33.33 Quit Kohlrabi (Nick collision from services.) 22.33.42 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-142-033.pools.arcor-ip.net) 22.33.42 # couldn't it just give a pointer to the data to the wps? 22.33.49 # sounds like a good idea to me 22.34.01 # That's in fact an old idea of mine - have the whole trackinfo struct in front of each loaded track, 22.34.02 # buffer wrapping would of course need to be handled 22.34.10 # Nico: We always have to deal with the worst case - e.g. 32 tracks in memory, each from a different directory, and each with cover art. 22.34.17 # amiconn: yes, and just have a linkedlist of pointers to those 22.34.22 # and *one* fixed struct where the data is copied into when playback of that track starts 22.34.36 # amiconn: Yes, that's what I was thinking. 22.34.41 # (to have it still available further into the track in case the track is longer than mem) 22.34.45 # with album art, that idea is just getting better 22.34.54 # when ur using the wrong polarization on an iriver, does it brick ur battery only or the whole player? 22.34.57 # but when possible, we should try to minimise the number of arts loaded 22.35.01 # One major obstacle (on hwcodec) is the bitswap 22.35.02 Quit moozooh (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22.35.04 # like by keeping a list of the loaded ones 22.35.06 # muesli-: it *fries* it good 22.35.07 # hmm... and there's the reason to copy the album art to a fixed buffer too -- when teh beginning of the track gets overwritten 22.35.27 # Bagder the battery or the whole player? 22.35.30 # muesli-: the one Linus analyzed had its CPU and more killed 22.35.34 # Bagder: it fries the power management unit, the battery is fine 22.35.38 # maybe it should be written in a way that allows reading the album tag from id3 too? 22.35.39 # Nico: Will the 20000 byte limit restrict image size to 75x75 or less? 22.35.49 # at least that was my experience with frying things with power 22.35.51 # It currently grovels across the whole ring buffer, which means the metadata would be bitswapped too 22.36.08 # webguest71: 20000 is too big - 75x75x2 is 11250 bytes. 22.36.14 # ok m8s...wasnt my player though 22.36.38 # That seems like an important topic for devcon to me - a unified, clean, simple and flexible playback engine 22.36.50 # Mikachu: I think we all agree on that 22.36.51 # size is antoher thing that has to be discussed... 22.36.55 # I was hoping to do a wps with a 120x120 image...maybe the buffer could be user definable via menu? 22.37.15 # Mikachu: Yes, Nico's latest patch is ready for that. 22.37.18 # heh, i formulated that strangely 22.37.23 # ...for both swcodec and hwcodec 22.37.29 # the scroll wheel work :) 22.37.32 # webguest71: currently the patch is still work in progress 22.37.48 # amiconn: do you think it's practical to unify them -- in some ways they are quite different 22.37.49 # It will also enable us to integrate the pcm codec for mas more easily 22.37.50 # you will probably be able to use the size you want in the future 22.38.30 # lostlogic: Yes I think so. The playback engines are unnecessarily different atm 22.38.54 # amiconn: ok, I haven't actually read the hwcodec one much. 22.38.54 Join saa[b_r]ider [0] (n=saab_rid@221.223.100.109) 22.39.11 # and yes, I think working on this when there are several of us in one place will be good. 22.39.18 # Nico: np...just inquiring :) 22.39.54 # ...and dissecting the swcodec playback engine seems like a good idea as well. 22.40.05 # It looks quite complicated to me 22.40.16 Join imphasing_ [0] (n=a766a239@yossman.net) 22.40.16 # With larger screens like ipod video and the gigabeat, I think many users will want to use images a little larger than 75x75 as well 22.40.24 # indeed 22.40.47 # what i have in mind is just using the screen size as a limit 22.40.57 # amiconn: it is painful -- there aren't cleanly defined code paths, things "might work this way" but then if they are fast skipping they "might be different" and if they are medium speed skipping it might just stop working entirely :-P 22.41.25 # Nico: Good idea, not that anyone will go that large, but at least they have the option 22.42.37 # lostlogic: You should take a look at the hwcodec engine. It certainly has less functionality, and I'd say it isn't the best design either, but it works rock-solid 22.43.03 # It uses message queues to serialise operations 22.43.27 # amiconn: swcodec tries to as well, but ... yeah -- I'll have to look at hwcodec. 22.43.35 # mpeg.c 22.43.37 # might do that when I'm looking at the problems with voice 22.44.34 # oh yeah! SDL audio finally bloody works 22.44.44 # rocking! 22.44.50 # w00t! 22.44.52 # You can skip the whole code path #if CONFIG_CODEC == MAS3587F if you're only interested in the playback parts 22.44.55 Quit SereR0kR ("XChat Aqua") 22.44.57 # man that was hard... but obvious after I fixed it 22.45.08 # safetydan: btw, I'm all _for_ adding support to get the debug audio thread stuff in the sim 22.45.16 # Also note that voice isn't handled in mpeg.c, as the decoder can't do both music and voice at once 22.45.20 # buffer underflow in the SDL hardware audio thread 22.45.27 # amiconn: thanks :) last time I tried to start ripping code out of playback.c I ended up with a deadlock I couldn't solve, maybe I'll give it another go 22.45.42 # does rockboy run on the ipod 5g? 22.45.46 # Bagder, have you seen the patch? I'm not sure I like how debug_menu.c ends up 22.45.51 # linuxstb: 120x120x2=28800, so I guess 20000 won't work for images that large 22.45.56 # no, didn't check the patch (yet) 22.46.03 # linuxstb: Does your pacman port use SDL for rendering? 22.46.07 # linuxstb: is there any logic in the naming of the wolfson codecs? 22.46.09 # There is lower-level mp3 playback code in mp3_playback.c 22.46.37 # markun: I haven't spotted it. 22.46.45 # amiconn: what functionality is in each? 22.47.02 # amiconn: part of the problem with playback.c is simply that it is too much code in one file, It hink 22.47.03 # imphasing_: No. 22.47.04 # mp3_playback.c holds stuff to play from memory 22.47.18 # linuxstb: rockbox's lcd driver? 22.47.22 # mpeg.c handles buffering, metadata etc in a thread 22.47.26 # imphasing: Yes. 22.47.28 # linuxstb: I'm wondering how to merge the 3 families of register compatible codecs 22.47.56 # amiconn: *nod* we should definitely be able to use that in playback.c 22.48.18 # ermh unify 22.48.24 # mp3_playback.c should be the equivalent of pcm_playback.c 22.48.37 # markun: I plan to do more work on the audio drivers - cleaning them up, and I'll see if I can unify them then. I think it should be possibly using macros. 22.48.56 # ..but for swcodec, there is an extra layer that doesn't exists yet for hwcodec, the decoding itself 22.49.20 # I think it would be a good idea to introduce this layer for hwcodec as well. 22.49.58 # It would handle several things. First, it would handle the bitswap (into an extra buffer, so we can put metadata in the main buffer) 22.50.14 # Then it would have to handle codec changes as well (mp3<->pcm) 22.50.51 # mp3->pcm means stopping the mas, uploading the pcm codec to the mas (via i2c), then start playing pcm. 22.51.20 # pcm playback means bitswap, plus blocking the playback data into 4KB blocks prepended with 'WAVE' 22.51.26 # (of course also bitswapped) 22.51.54 # pcm->mp3 means a mas reset, then start playing mp3 22.52.41 # With the pcm codec we should at least be able to support pcm WAV and AIFF, perhaps also stuff like ADPCM 22.52.54 # amiconn, I also have a fix for the icon lag in the player sim, but it makes the icons flickery so I haven't committed it yet. I need to rethink how the charcell drawing works 22.52.54 Quit imphasing_ ("yossman.net freenode.net/wikipedia webchat CGI:IRC 0.5.4 (2005) (EOF)") 22.53.07 Quit erus` (Remote closed the connection) 22.53.34 # ./rockboxui --zoom 22.53.35 # Segmentation fault 22.53.38 # :-) 22.56.26 Quit webguest71 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.56.55 # amiconn: Apart from the space for the compressed and uncompressed image, does the jpeg decoder need any other large buffers? 22.57.29 Join erus` [0] (n=tommo@ACD65276.ipt.aol.com) 22.57.58 # On 1bit and 2bit greyscale targets it needs the grayscale library buffer 22.58.02 Quit erus` (Remote closed the connection) 22.58.26 # sound does not work with my sdl sim on x11 22.58.37 Join erus` [0] (n=tommo@ACD65276.ipt.aol.com) 22.59.14 Join rhymesgalore [0] (n=5936a618@labb.contactor.se) 22.59.48 Quit rhymesgalore (Client Quit) 23.00.14 Join rhymesgalore [0] (n=5936a618@labb.contactor.se) 23.00.16 Join Bger [0] (n=Bager@217.9.226.114) 23.01.29 # Hi there, was just reading this "No X5 remote support just yet" in the CVS activities. how far has the X5 developement then come? 23.01.43 # not very 23.01.59 # as we have no bootloader yet 23.02.43 # damn, i really would like to help, but don't have any programming skills^^ 23.03.06 # most remote stuff should be very similar to the iriver's remote anyway 23.03.34 # at least high-level wise 23.04.50 # thx for the info though^^ 23.05.14 # whoever made Plasma, that's awesome 23.05.34 # I bet cvs knows, I can't remember 23.05.37 Quit rhymesgalore ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.05.54 # lol, I'm not interested enough in asking cvs 23.06.09 # he lives so far away from IRC, it's horrible 23.06.17 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 23.06.22 # * BHSPitMonkey glances at Firefox icon 23.08.46 # https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1434758&group_id=44306&atid=439120 23.08.51 # updated with v3.1 23.08.55 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@c220-239-137-122.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 23.09.07 # Nico: we all get mailed on updates... 23.09.18 # sorry 23.09.25 # morning all 23.09.27 # no worries, I'm just informing you 23.09.37 # JdGordon evening ;) 23.09.41 # some rather optimistic feature requests going on... 23.10.01 # Bagder, by "not work" do you mean no audio or audio that breaks up? 23.10.11 # no audio at all 23.10.16 # very odd 23.10.18 # and the time doesn't move in the wps 23.10.28 # which means SDL couldn't init the audio subsystem 23.10.44 # I'll investigate further at later time 23.11.06 # Should have printed something like "Unable to open audio..." 23.11.39 # oops, it did 23.12.23 # If you're lucky it might have also printed why 23.12.45 # it didn't, it just said "Unable to open audio:" 23.12.56 # well that was useful 23.13.16 # I guess SDL_GetError() isn't saying anything 23.15.08 # the x11 also crashes if you do ./rockboxui --zoom 23.15.15 # which isn't surprising since I nicked the code from there 23.15.26 # anyway, I'll look at it tomorrow 23.15.29 # night all 23.15.32 # I never used --zoom with that since it had 2 by default 23.15.35 # night 23.15.35 Join ModernExecutive [0] (n=ModExec@pool-70-18-144-65.norf.east.verizon.net) 23.15.39 Part ModernExecutive 23.15.40 Part safetydan ("Leaving") 23.15.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.17.32 # good night everyone 23.17.40 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 23.17.41 Quit Nico () 23.17.55 # no1 wants to commit the colour settings patch?? :( 23.23.11 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@dslcustomer-230-197.vivodi.gr) 23.24.14 Quit vca (Remote closed the connection) 23.25.16 Quit lodesi (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.25.23 # JdGordon: I've been testing the rgb565 -> rgb888 -> rgb565 conversion - you may find this program useful: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/rgb.c 23.26.29 # how did coob do it? 23.26.44 # he converted imphasing's dumps 23.27.18 # linuxstb: ok, thanx, ill play with it today.. 23.27.24 # amiconn: got pulled away, but did read all you were saying about the hwcodec targets and playing wav. so probably the thing to do is to rework / rewrite the swcodec engine that already has all of the needed layers, and the work from there to make sure that it's as robust as the hwcodec engine, and then support hwcodec in the same framework? 23.27.51 # Yes I think so 23.28.40 # We should also check whether we can reuse ideas from the hwcodec engine when rewriting the swcodec engine 23.29.07 # Codec loading will most probably end up different 23.30.42 # (on hwcodec) I think the mp3 'codec' should be built in, as (1) it's essentially just the bitswap and some inits and (2) you can't essentially play anything without it 23.30.50 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-143-111.dsl.pipex.com) 23.31.09 # The pcm codec could be built-in as well, except the downloadable mas firmware 23.31.25 Join Paprica [0] (i=Paprica@CBL217-132-151-145.bb.netvision.net.il) 23.31.29 # amiconn? 23.31.56 # First, this will save RAM when it's not needed (it's around 10KB). Second, it will also save us from GPL conflicts 23.33.22 # Paprica: I tried brickmania on Ondio. As another user already said it works fairly well. Just some ntpicks from my side: 23.34.05 # (1) The left part of the 'q' in the 'quit' menu item should be 2 pixels wide as with all other letters 23.34.27 Join Shadowarrior13 [0] (i=Shadowar@ip68-3-160-223.ph.ph.cox.net) 23.34.35 # (2) In the menu, Right should select the menu item as this is what is used as 'play' everywhere else 23.35.18 # (3) In gameplay it would probably be helpful to have Up as an alternative to release the ball 23.35.58 # (4) It seems the ball goes faster than in other ports. Do you advance it the same number of pixels per game 'tick'? 23.36.15 # If so, this should be adapted for the lower display resolution 23.36.44 # amiconn: *nod* I'll start looking at it and document high level thoughts and stuff prior ot devcon. 23.36.49 # (5) When I miss the ball, most of the displayed bricks disappear (overlayed by a 'white' bitmap?) 23.37.11 # This looks odd. The bricks reappear when the new ball is 'ready' 23.37.56 # yeah i know this bug 23.38.18 # after the port to recorder/ondio 23.38.23 # i will fix this 23.38.25 # nite 23.38.29 Quit Bger ("[BX] Beavis & Butthead use BitchX. Huh-huh huh-huh huh-huh he said "Bitch".") 23.39.08 # (6) The ball is a little tiny which makes it hardly visible when moving. Perhaps a simple 3x3 square would be better (though a little blocky) than the current shape 23.39.10 Join vca [0] (n=pfft@gibson.lawngnome.org) 23.39.44 # ok 23.39.47 # The current shape is 23.39.54 # .o. 23.39.55 # ooo 23.39.57 # .o. 23.40.01 # right? 23.43.29 # i try to do circle with 3x3 pixels 23.43.52 # =] 23.43.52 # Yes 23.43.52 # I can fix the button mappings as well when you've committed the major part of the port 23.43.52 # ok. 23.43.52 # Btw, did you think about reformatting the help text so that it's not necessary to scroll left & right while reading? 23.44.01 Join virtualball [0] (n=virtualb@AC864175.ipt.aol.com) 23.44.05 # This is also an issue on H1x0; the text is very cumbersome to read this way :( 23.44.09 # Hi i have a question 23.44.46 # ok 23.44.56 # i will split the lines 23.44.58 # i was reading your wiki for converting macpods to FAT32 and it says i need the mbr, where do i get that 23.45.10 # for the small LCD's 23.46.35 # i mean where should i find a partition table for the 30gb video iPod? 23.47.59 # nite 23.48.07 Nick Paprica is now known as Paprica[sleep] (i=Paprica@CBL217-132-151-145.bb.netvision.net.il) 23.49.00 Quit midkay (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.49.46 # anyone? 23.50.09 # * Bagder has not even been near an iPod 23.50.25 # virtualball: What page on the wiki are you talking about? 23.50.38 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationFromMacOSX 23.51.00 # im not an idiot when it comes to linux and unix btw 23.51.22 Join Febs [0] (n=421cf59a@labb.contactor.se) 23.52.09 # virtualball: Okay, simply put, somebody with a FAT32 4G will have to donate a copy of their mbr I think. 23.52.22 # but i have a video iPod 23.52.26 # Or 5g then 23.52.39 # how would they do this? 23.55.10 # I could give you a mbr. 23.55.16 # Would the size matter? 23.55.25 # I've got a 60. 23.55.41 # dunno 23.55.44 # i got 30 23.55.51 # Anyone? 23.56.07 # how did you get it? i have a friend who was a windows one with 30 gb 23.56.18 # There's a program you can use to take it. 23.56.25 # Ummmmmm 23.56.38 # do you know what its called? 23.56.44 # Looking :P 23.56.54 # yay thanks 23.56.56 # aefdisk32 23.57.12 # The command is /save, I think 23.57.54 # I wrote the "Convert from HFS to FAT32" part in the Wiki page. ..and I think you need the mbr from an identical sized iPod, but I'm not 100% sure 23.58.01 # Should also be doable with dd 23.58.25 # He's on windows :P 23.58.26 # cool thanks you guys are cool, im from iPL btw lol 23.58.27 # I think... 23.58.32 # Alls I know is I'm on windows. 23.58.33 # no im on mac :-P 23.58.40 # Well, your friend is on windows :P 23.58.50 # haha true