--- Log for 07.03.106 Server: clarke.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 day and 23 hours ago 00.00.37 # btw, what do you guys think of a loadable vkeyboard map? 00.01.52 # Sounds like a good idea to me, at least 00.02.30 Quit TCK- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.02.53 # For me it doesn't matter, but I can imagine some people wanting to have a greek or cyrillic vkeyboard 00.03.29 # i don't know how specific they are, but the ipodlinux people have lots of input method type things 00.03.41 Quit hydrahead ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 00.04.35 # markun: That's pretty much exactly what I was thinking. 00.06.20 # * preglow strokes the eq plotter 00.07.03 # preglow: is it ready? 00.11.57 # no, but now it works on pc, at least 00.12.03 # still need a better sin() 00.13.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.13.47 # i hate BHSPitLappy so much. 00.14.05 # look in the bible for some good sins 00.14.18 Part darkless ("Leaving") 00.15.54 Quit ze (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.16.10 Quit Benacool () 00.16.27 Quit imphasing ("Feedbag time.") 00.19.11 # at least no one needs to worry too much this plotter will be fast 00.19.35 Join RotAtoR [0] (n=e@12-210-82-91.client.insightBB.com) 00.20.00 Join Ben-burns-to-shi [0] (i=Ben@abo-167-20-68.rns.modulonet.fr) 00.20.22 # :) 00.20.33 DBUG Enqueued KICK Ben-burns-to-shi 00.20.33 # 5,5 А8,5 hello?! are colors allowed here? 5,5 А 00.20.40 # Ben-burns-to-shi: no :) 00.21.07 # 5,5 А8,5 ok 5,5 А 00.21.38 # ? 00.21.40 # ok 00.22.02 # ugh, my eyes! 00.22.10 # i'm discovering the wonderful work of rockbox 00.22.26 # and i have some questions to ask 00.23.20 # can anyone explain me how you code firmwares to DAP? 00.23.26 Join charkins [0] (n=casey@pdpc/supporter/active/charkins) 00.23.29 # you do just like we do 00.23.32 # basically 00.23.35 # it's quite a lot to explain 00.23.47 # first you need to find out how the hardware is connected 00.23.52 # but you surely use a language for example 00.23.52 # and what parts there are 00.23.58 # we use c and assembler 00.24.02 # mostly c 00.24.03 # lostlogic: red builds in case you didn't notice 00.24.07 # ok 00.24.53 # ok so you study the architecture of the driver first to note which components there are 00.26.04 # is it possible to contribute itself to the community by helping programming some parts of a firmware? 00.26.30 # all help is much apreciated here 00.27.52 # sure 00.28.07 # Rockbox have one full Wiki, and you can dowload the source for look at it 00.28.13 # i only contribute small part of it myself 00.28.22 # large parts of rockbox i have no idea how works 00.28.33 Quit ashridah ("gone") 00.28.58 # i owe a iaudio X5 and i find the cowon's firmware very poor of functionalities 00.29.00 # preglow: hehe modest? :) 00.29.23 # i got the impression most devs don't know most of rockbox 00.29.34 # Rb is vaste 00.29.43 # lot of differents things 00.29.52 # and if I could do something to help producing a better FW, i would enjoy it 00.30.32 Nick Ben-burns-to-shi is now known as benBurnsToShine (i=Ben@abo-167-20-68.rns.modulonet.fr) 00.30.32 DBUG Enqueued KICK benBurnsToShine 00.30.32 *** Alert Mode level 1 00.30.48 # Moos: tons of people do more stuff than i do 00.31.03 # indeed ! 00.31.14 # benBurnsToShine: and you're welcome to help, just find a corner you like and start coding 00.31.31 # and ask whenever you wonder about something 00.31.32 # preglow: but your dsp competency is apreciated ;) 00.32.29 # and how could i begin to do that ? reading some specifications of the player? reading some examples of codes already written? 00.33.06 # what dap've you got? 00.33.17 # iaudio X5 60Gb 00.33.29 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-192-54.dsl.pipex.com) 00.33.44 # in which case coding on an actual unit will be a bit hard 00.33.55 # i think LinusN is the main man working on that port 00.34.02 # ok 00.34.16 # if you want to work on the port itself, you'll probably want to ask him if there's something you can do 00.34.22 # and he doesn't seem to be on right now 00.34.29 # but he's not here... 00.34.33 # correct 00.34.40 # LinusN is very busy like always 00.34.46 # :) 00.34.55 # ok 00.35.14 # but don't worries that will hapen 00.35.16 Join Shadowarrior13 [0] (i=dsf@ip68-3-160-223.ph.ph.cox.net) 00.35.37 # and where are U from all of U? 00.35.51 # and for your help, see first if you want to contribute on the low level things or high level ones 00.36.04 # lot of differents cities 00.36.09 # low level=hardware? 00.36.11 # but mainly Europe 00.36.14 # yep 00.36.15 # low leve=software? 00.36.22 # high 00.36.59 # how can we contribute to the low level? i only thought about programming firmwares.... 00.37.17 # did you read a bit documentations yet? 00.37.30 # not yet 00.37.31 # our Wiki is reall y great 00.37.45 # ok 00.37.49 # benBurnsToShine: low-level would be driver-programming 00.37.52 # Wiki is an abreviation? 00.37.56 # benBurnsToShine: not lots you can do with the hardware 00.38.00 # benBurnsToShine: no 00.38.08 # benBurnsToShine: a wiki is a website that anyone can edit 00.38.16 # ok 00.38.17 # benBurnsToShine: and we've got one on www.rockbox.org 00.38.33 # i've seen it 00.38.37 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DocsIndex 00.38.46 # but yeah 00.38.57 # familiarising yourself with how rockbox works in the meantime might be clever 00.39.02 # perhaps playing around with the simulator 00.39.46 # simulator? 00.40.14 # a way to do a unit test? 00.40.20 # your DAP in your computer sort of 00.40.33 *** Alert Mode OFF 00.40.35 # for tests things 00.40.50 # benBurnsToShine: it's a way to compile rockbox on your computer, it's a great deal faster than testing stuff on your dap 00.40.59 Join ze [0] (i=ze@ca-dstreet-cuda1-c6a-130.snbrca.adelphia.net) 00.41.02 # benBurnsToShine: but it doesn't work for low-level stuff that requires the dap hardware, of course 00.41.26 # ok cool 00.42.06 # is there a simulator for each dap? 00.42.16 Quit ender` (" Experience varies directly with the equipment ruined.") 00.43.17 Part bluebrother^ ("Leaving") 00.44.06 # yep and the X5 one is already ready 00.45.39 # I'm new to rockbox myself and was thinking about hacking the id3db stuff a bit (hangs on my ipod). 00.45.50 # argh 00.45.57 # Is anyone actively working on it? 00.45.57 # this fixed point stuff is an eternal precision nightmare 00.46.09 # charkins: it's going to be replaced pretty soon 00.46.26 # charkins: we've got someone working on a replacement for the entire database system 00.46.28 # is the replacement in cvs or yet to be checked in 00.46.36 # yet to be checked in 00.46.39 # preglow: good luck :( 00.46.39 # slasheri is working on it 00.46.48 # sweet, looking forward to testing that out then 00.46.51 # yep 00.46.58 # it'll generate the database on the unit 00.47.01 # will be completely sweet 00.47.17 # and modify tag on the fly too :) 00.47.50 # You guys rock by the way. Had a neuros since they first came out and have been waiting to replace it with something new. Noticed last night that ipod 5g was pretty stable so picked one up this morning. 00.47.50 # that will be one of the best feature 00.50.01 # where can i find the simulator for iaudio X5, i don't find it 00.50.24 # benBurnsToShine: you need to check out the source code from cvs and build it 00.50.45 # ok 00.52.51 # benBurnsToShine: here one screen shoot I made for you can see how it looks: http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/3364/sim24bits5bj.png 00.53.19 # but like preglow said you need to build it yourself 00.53.35 # thanks Moos 00.53.42 # np 00.54.22 # if you use windows, check this: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment 00.54.30 # anyone in here have an ipod with rockbox? 00.54.47 # midkay: yes 00.54.58 # midkay: Aye. 00.55.17 # benBurnsToShine: look this before http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToCompiling 00.55.27 # herz42, i'm not sure if you're a long-time user but - have you - oh, Paul_The_Nerd, cool ;) - have either of you drained your battery to the point of the battery icon and ! symbol? 00.55.41 # midkay: I have, a couple times. 00.55.47 # Paul_The_Nerd, w/ rockbox? 00.55.50 # Yes 00.55.56 # In fact, I'm in the middle of doing it again. 00.56.07 # ok 00.56.10 # But I have a nano. Why do you ask? 00.56.37 # Paul_The_Nerd, perfect. 00.56.43 # Paul_The_Nerd, i helped a friend install rockbox yesterday.. 00.56.57 # ben: french? 00.57.12 # now he's saying he got the battery and ! icon earlier.. he's been charging it for like 1/2hr now and still blank LCD and not mounted in windows.. 00.57.37 # midkay: Okay, if the USB cable is plugged in, just hold Menu+Select until it reboots itself from the battery screen. It should go through the bootloader, then mount. 00.58.04 # midkay: Even with the blank screen, menu+select should do it, if held down long enough for the hard-reset to trigger 00.58.11 # At least, it worked for me 00.58.44 # ouщ francais 00.59.14 # I also got that symbol some time. Had to wait a while, but then it worked with a reset as Paul_the_Nerd said 00.59.16 # benBurnsToShine: register your nick and check pm then ;) 00.59.36 # who is pm!? 00.59.50 # i've registered now 00.59.54 # Paul_The_Nerd, that seems to have worked. :) thanks a lot! 01.00.17 # benBurnsToShine: can you check my pm? 01.00.20 # midkay: No problem. Even when you drain it completely with RetailOS, I've had problems with that screen on my nano. 01.01.07 # same on 5g 01.01.23 # Paul_The_Nerd, he says thanks too :) i've only once drained it to the battery dead icon on my 5g.. 01.01.28 # that was before rockbox though. 01.02.23 # bedtime 01.02.42 # good night preglow 01.03.50 Join imphasing [0] (n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net) 01.06.02 # Paul_The_Nerd, damn - we just lost a user ;) 01.06.49 # Oh darn. I'm not sure if I'll ever survive the shame. 01.08.04 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.08.15 # Paul_The_Nerd, it's all your fault too.. 01.09.06 # Oh? Where did we lose this user? 01.09.22 # Paul_The_Nerd, just kidding (@ 'your fault') 01.09.55 # Well, I've told a person or two "This probably isn't going to change" and heard them respond "Well then, I'm not gonna use rockbox" so there's been a few "my faults" before. 01.10.11 # Not that I *created* the feature, I just relayed old argument results about it. :) 01.10.16 # Paul_The_Nerd, haha, those are idiots.. 01.10.50 # "Man, I love gapless, and this, and that, and something else, but it doesn't look very good so I think I'll stick with the original." 01.10.55 # *enters* "its to ugly!!" "then don't use it..?" "mabe i wont!! so there!!" *leaves* 01.11.02 # Hehehe 01.11.13 Quit xmixahlx ("blah blah blah") 01.13.32 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-75-79.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr) 01.16.27 Quit RaTG () 01.23.42 # on the ipod wheel, the position values are between 0 and 95? with zero being top? and we only account for up-to half way around in one 'button' event? 01.27.13 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.36.31 Join MrStaticVoid [0] (n=jlee@130.85.149.148) 01.42.41 # Night all 01.42.43 Quit benBurnsToShine (" Vive Pink Floyd") 01.42.43 Quit Moos ("Glory to Rockbox!") 01.47.10 Quit Paul_The_Nerd ("Leaving.") 01.48.01 Quit Shadowarrior13 ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.01 :: www.XLhost.de )") 01.49.11 Join earHertz [0] (n=chatzill@c-24-30-242-135.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 01.49.41 Join erus` [0] (n=tommo@ACD4B063.ipt.aol.com) 01.52.12 Quit erus` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.52.45 Join erus` [0] (n=tommo@ACD4B063.ipt.aol.com) 01.56.48 # Hmm, what's more important in get_button for ipod: reducing the number of instructions in calculating scroll, or having equal cost paths for typical forward and backward events? 01.58.28 # forward backward 01.58.39 # have find the commands 01.58.40 # ? 01.59.34 # lostlogic: reduce the instructions. Besides, forward and backward are not equally likely occurances on teh ipod 02.01.15 Quit MrStaticVoid ("leaving") 02.02.12 Quit charkins ("Leaving") 02.13.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.16.43 Quit erus` ("Leaving") 02.18.35 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 02.21.22 Join erus` [0] (n=tommo@ACD4B063.ipt.aol.com) 02.27.06 Join TCK- [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-192-54.dsl.pipex.com) 02.36.44 Quit Kohlrabi ("Fast alle Menschen sind RegenwУМrmer") 02.39.30 Join JdGordy|uni [0] (n=82c20d66@labb.contactor.se) 02.39.38 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.40.20 # hey any1 here? 02.40.29 # jp 02.40.52 # well... any of the devs around? 02.41.08 # meybe 02.41.11 # :) 02.41.43 # what is your request meby i can help 02.49.42 Quit ScoTTie (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.49.44 Quit erus` ("Leaving") 02.50.58 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-245-78.dsl.pipex.com) 02.52.43 Join erus` [0] (n=tommo@ACD4B063.ipt.aol.com) 02.56.13 Quit erus` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.57.40 Join erus` [0] (n=tommo@ACD4B063.ipt.aol.com) 02.58.00 Quit JdGordy|uni ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.59.32 Join ScoTTie [0] (n=scott@220-253-47-26.VIC.netspace.net.au) 03.02.40 Join tommo_ [0] (n=tommo@ACD4B063.ipt.aol.com) 03.02.40 Quit erus` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.02.40 Quit markun (Connection reset by peer) 03.03.11 Nick tommo_ is now known as `erus (n=tommo@ACD4B063.ipt.aol.com) 03.03.51 Nick `erus is now known as erus` (n=tommo@ACD4B063.ipt.aol.com) 03.03.51 Quit ScoTTie (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.03.57 Join ScoTTie [0] (n=scott@unaffiliated/scottie) 03.07.08 Quit TCK- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.09.10 Quit erus` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.10.06 Join erus` [0] (n=tommo@ACD4B063.ipt.aol.com) 03.10.43 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.11.05 Quit wizatcomputer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.11.24 Join wizatcomputer [0] (n=wizatcom@pool-71-254-29-175.clppva.east.verizon.net) 03.23.31 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-243-17.dsl.pipex.com) 03.32.58 Join perl|wtf [0] (n=say@cpe-66-65-89-236.nyc.res.rr.com) 03.33.54 Quit Daishi ("Client exiting...") 03.36.51 Join aaronfg [0] (n=aaronfg@ool-4356c95b.dyn.optonline.net) 03.40.21 Quit herz42 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.44.36 Quit erus` ("Leaving") 03.48.20 Join erus` [0] (n=tommo@ACD4B063.ipt.aol.com) 03.48.58 Part erus` ("Leaving") 04.02.40 Part youngcerea1 04.12.30 Join gracchus [0] (n=jesse@adsl-68-77-20-1.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) 04.13.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.30.41 # earHertz: I think I've got the button driver so that forward or backward are the same, and the only paths that are slightly slower are the wrap cases. 04.31.18 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote closed the connection) 04.32.41 Quit midkay ("Leaving") 04.32.55 # rb on 5g ipod is very nice, thanks to all 04.33.36 # is there someone actively working on recording? 04.33.55 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=Steve-O@adsl-65-65-221-229.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net) 04.34.27 # I see the ipl WM8758 mic init code doesn't seem to exist yet 04.37.46 Quit Maxime` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.38.08 Join Maxime [0] (n=flemmard@fbx.flemmard.be) 04.41.05 # gracchus: I don't know, but I think nobody's working on recording on iPods at the moment. 04.41.59 # ok, thanks 04.46.28 # Paul_The_Nerd: have you seen any cases when scrolling forward continuously of the scroll moving backwards one unit as you cross the top of the wheel? 04.47.07 # lostlogic: No, I have not. I seem to recall that being a bug early on with the driver, and then becoming fixed, but all I remember is a faint memory of a commit message regarding something like that. 04.47.17 # Paul_The_Nerd: thanks 04.48.21 # "Button driver would insert erronous events when wheel position overflowed, this fixes it." on the 22 of Dec 04.48.29 # http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/firmware/drivers/button.c.diff?r1=1.104&r2=1.105 04.49.32 # thanks1 04.50.41 Ctcp Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 9 minutes and 59 seconds at the last flood 04.50.41 # * BHSPitLappy so happy! 04.51.00 # hmm... my new code should deal with that, but I'm getting problems with the forward wrap, blah. 04.51.19 # BHSPitMonkey: about? 04.51.33 # my brand new 5G I just opened! 04.52.22 # whee! 04.52.25 # congrats 04.52.28 # now rb it! 04.52.41 # ASAP :P 04.52.57 # I'm actually wanting to get it physically protected and stuff first 04.53.07 # I still haven't taken off the protective film :P 04.54.13 Join Benacool [0] (n=benacool@toronto-HSE-ppp4042048.sympatico.ca) 04.56.23 # 30 GB or 60? 05.01.34 # damn, if anyone see's someone in here with an iPod Mini 2G can you get them to msg me ? 05.01.46 # need to test the keypad code for 2G 05.07.30 Join Rob2222_ [0] (n=Miranda@ACB49A46.ipt.aol.com) 05.19.51 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.23.44 # Yeah, the battery scale is *definitely* off for the Nano 05.23.57 # It started at 90%, and now it's been at 0% for a little while. :) 05.25.46 Quit Benacool (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.31.43 # XavierGr: Okay,the battery bench plugin does *not* automatically write on the iPod Nano ever. If I cause the plugin to exit by running another one, I get a proper battery reading (including voltage, since that's supported now, with a small change to the config-ipodnano), but if I just leave it running, the plugin never automatically updates the .txt, only when you manually cause the plugin to exit 05.38.25 # hmmm maybe it has to do with the disk spinning issues. 05.38.44 # on ondio this is simulated but this doesn't work on nano. 05.39.15 # try this: start the benchmark and leave it for a few hours running. Then make the trick you do to force the input 05.39.28 # normally there will be more events recorded 05.40.02 # because on nano there is no HD spin event so the plugin will never write data to the file. Instead it will log the data temporary in memory. 05.40.57 # if you do the trick you say maybe you will get some measurements, but until the HD simulation is fixed the plugin will ot work correctly. 05.41.32 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@24.143.70.99) 05.43.37 # XavierGr: Unfortunately, I really just need to see at what level, roughly, the iPod turns off at, so I get a voltage reading. 05.44.08 Quit pyro () 05.44.10 # XavierGr: Fortunately, I got one at 6% for 3510 05.45.10 Quit midkay (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.45.19 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@24.143.70.99) 06.01.00 # any1 here know the list or screen_access code? 06.11.01 Quit wizatcomputer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.11.22 Join wizatcomputer [0] (n=wizatcom@pool-71-254-29-175.clppva.east.verizon.net) 06.13.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.14.01 Join Benacool [0] (i=Benacool@toronto-HSE-ppp4042371.sympatico.ca) 06.17.16 Quit gracchus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.22.03 # Paul_The_Nerd: What kind of battery is it? I'm hopeful that it's just a scaling problem and not an ADC problem. 06.22.30 # lostlogic: I honestly have no clue. 06.22.44 # gnight y'all 06.23.19 Quit imphasing (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.24.28 # lostlogic: Apparently this is the same as the one built in: http://www.suntekstore.com/apple-ipod-nano-replacement-battery-with-tools---330-mah.html 06.24.46 # Li-ion, 3.7v, 330mAh 06.27.18 # It's *possible* my battery wasn't fully charged when it said 90%, but I'm moderately sure it was. It didn't stay on 0% very long before it died though (5-10 minutes, I think) 06.27.22 # hmm... will probably have to define another battery type for it, because it can probably run down to a much lwer level 06.27.33 # and also probably reports a slightly lower voltage at full charge being such a low cap 06.27.54 # Paul_The_Nerd: let me know if you notice a difference with my slightly improved button interrupt ;) 06.28.23 # lostlogic: When did that go in? 06.28.35 # about 3 minutes ago 06.28.38 # Hahaha. 06.29.33 # "Completely unscientific" eh? 06.30.39 # I think it felt better. does that mean anything? no. But it is definitely a couple of registers less and a couple of instructions less in the most common cases 06.31.10 # With user input, "feels better" is more important anyway, I'd think. 06.38.26 # lostlogic: At the very least, there's going to need to be a different range of "Battery Capacity" choices in the menu. :) 06.47.01 Quit rob- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.48.21 # hey... is the 5G bootloader different? 06.48.39 # I saw that it was red for a while, not sure if I need to use a new version 06.51.13 # It's still red, I believe 06.51.54 # You should be fine with the old version, anyway. I believe it's an indirect change (it changes some files the bootloader uses, but they won't affect the way rockbox works once you've left the bootloader I think). I could be wrong though 06.57.26 Quit aaronfg (Remote closed the connection) 07.04.33 Quit Paul_The_Nerd ("Leaving.") 07.09.45 Quit Hadaka (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.23.15 Quit Benacool (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.30.04 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.30.07 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 07.39.45 Join Naked [0] (i=naked@naked.iki.fi) 07.39.48 Nick Naked is now known as Hadaka (i=naked@naked.iki.fi) 07.40.03 # morning 07.40.10 # gmorning 07.40.14 # morning Bg3r 07.40.30 # ;) 07.42.38 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@labb.contactor.se) 07.42.44 Part LinusN 07.43.02 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@labb.contactor.se) 07.45.11 # hey, is there a bug with bejeweled now? 07.45.19 # as far as exiting the plugin 07.45.39 # not for me.. 07.45.48 # what's the combo? 07.45.58 # hold select to bring up the menu.. 07.46.05 # "end game" and then "exit plugin" or something. 07.46.20 # ah, I'm used to the old combo :P 07.46.24 # my bad. 07.46.31 # how old? :) 07.47.21 # meh 07.47.52 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@88.134.20.76) 07.51.02 # BHSPitMonkey, did you get your video then? 07.52.11 Quit RotAtoR ("zzzzzzzz") 07.53.23 # yuppers 07.53.30 # enjoying it? 07.54.31 Join Farpnut [0] (n=solo84@cm58.sigma6.maxonline.com.sg) 07.54.42 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB49A46.ipt.aol.com) 07.57.40 Quit TCK ("well, if you say so.") 07.58.22 Join Maxime` [0] (n=flemmard@fbx.flemmard.be) 07.58.46 # yuppers 07.59.14 # surely you have a compiled version of hotdog for it, then? ;) 08.00.23 Quit Maxime (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.02.44 # midkay_: are you still editing FlySpray? 08.03.06 # LinusN, i haven't checked it in a while - recently took up an interest in the wiki ;) 08.03.09 # midkay_: who doesn't? :P 08.03.16 # just finished fixing up the PluginIndex page 08.03.31 # There is a possibility that ZakkRoberts is editing this topic 08.03.41 # the FLySpray topic 08.03.45 # BHSPitMonkey, i know you want to send it to me. and normally i wouldn't allow such a thing, but i think i can make an exception 08.03.54 # when my internet regains its normal speed, I think I'll look at the rockboy code... 08.03.55 # LinusN, oh, the wiki topic - i updated it, yes. 08.04.14 # but are you still editing it, or can i take the lock? 08.04.27 # i'm done - lock? 08.05.02 # a topic is locked for 20 minutes after editing a topic, unless you check the checkbox at the bottom when you save it 08.05.15 # i took the lock now 08.05.37 # oh, really? 08.05.56 # i didn't know that, thanks - i thought it was for disabling the editing of pages by non-administrators or something. 08.07.04 # the lock is there so you can go back and update a page without polluting the history, as long as you still have the lock 08.07.33 # and of course to protect against simultaneous editinf 08.07.37 # editing 08.07.39 # ah, very cool. 08.08.00 # but useless for me - the history is already full of edits by me ;) 08.08.29 # LinusN, btw - just remembered, i wanted to ask - how does the A-B repeat mode work on the Recorder? 08.08.44 # i can't find anything anywhere on the wiki or mailing list 08.08.45 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@p54BD73B1.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.09.07 # iirc, you set the A-B mode in the repeat setting 08.09.23 # yes, that seems to be how to turn it on - but i can't see how you set A or B markers.. 08.09.29 # then you press ON+Left to set the A marker, and ON+Right to set the B marker 08.09.48 # and i believe you can clear them with a third combo 08.10.00 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-16-154.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 08.10.08 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 08.10.09 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@p54BD73B1.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.10.17 # LinusN, oh, that works, cool :) thanks 08.11.42 Quit Rob2222_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.13.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.13.44 Quit Farpenoodle (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.14.58 Join TiMiD [0] (n=TiMiD[FD@asgard.valombre.net) 08.15.01 # hi 08.15.11 # TiMiD ! :) hi 08.15.18 # what would be the opposite of a software codec platform? hardware codec platform? :) sounds a bit wrong.. 08.15.19 # wb 08.15.26 # hehe I'm not dead as you can see 08.15.41 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 08.16.29 # right now I'm in japan (at work) 08.16.52 # hehe 08.17.24 # still interrested in rb but no time since 3 month at least :/ 08.17.26 # lostlogic: I can't say it definitively, as it may just be placebo effect, but it did seem more responsive while I was out. 08.18.17 # looks like there are more and more peaple here now 08.18.51 # morning 08.18.59 # morning, amiconn 08.19.36 # ohayou amiconn (to say as the local peaple do here) 08.23.15 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.23.15 Quit TiMiD (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.23.50 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 08.24.56 Join DJ_Dooms_Day [0] (n=DJDD@220-245-186-182.static.tpgi.com.au) 08.31.05 # do viewers now have to be in the viewers folder? 08.31.25 # No, they can be in the rocks folder if they can also be run as a plugin. 08.31.43 # Just make sure that viewers.config points to it explicitly in the rocks folder. 08.31.45 # i have added a line to viewers.config for rocks/blaa but it says cant open /.rockbox/viewers/blaa.rock ?? 08.31.56 Quit Rick (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.32.34 # same for sudoku btw which is in the rocks folder but it looks to viewers/ ?? 08.32.35 # JdGordon: Double check your line then. If you look at Sudoku, it's listed properly. 08.32.39 Join Rick [0] (i=rick@pool-71-108-9-40.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 08.32.52 Join TiMiD [0] (n=TiMiD[FD@asgard.valombre.net) 08.34.00 # txt,rocks/text_editor, 00 00 00 00 00 00 is the line.... works if its in the viewers folder, not rocks 08.34.49 # JdGordon: Did you make sure to remove this line? txt,viewers/viewer,55 55 55 55 55 55 08.35.10 # I have no idea what it'll do if there are two lines for the same extension. 08.35.37 # no, i havnt.. there is currently 2 lines with txt, im trying to open it with "open with" not as the default... 08.35.41 # it should work... 08.36.05 # * JdGordon is checking the code 08.36.29 Join markun [0] (n=markun@bastards.student.ipv6.utwente.nl) 08.38.13 # g'morning m8s 08.38.17 # yup, viewers is hardcoded... 08.39.17 # JdGordon: Just for "Open with"? 08.39.27 # JdGordon: Like, will it work if you use it as the default? 08.39.40 # ill check 08.39.47 # i haver a funny feeling its not 08.39.57 # i mean, i tinhk it will work if its the default 08.40.02 # the fix is simple 08.40.11 # remove 3 lines from filetypes.c 08.40.22 # Ah 08.40.40 # yup, it works as default 08.43.03 # So, easy fix then? 08.43.15 # ye 08.43.26 # but i want to add some code to remove duplicates from the list 08.43.45 # Ah 08.44.33 # actually.. i got a better idea for the fix.. so u dont have the full path in the list... 08.45.14 # JdGordon: It was decided that they preferred having the full path 08.45.31 # where? in the config or the list? 08.45.37 # Oh, sorry, in the config. 08.46.41 # well the fix is either show the full path in the open with list, or check if /viewers/.rock exsists and if it does run it, and if not run /rocks/.rock 08.46.44 # which is better?> 08.47.09 # JdGordon: what exactly is the problem you are having? 08.47.35 # the open with list only loads rocks from the viewers folder 08.47.48 # yes? 08.47.56 # even if its rocks/ in the config file 08.48.07 # aha 08.48.54 # well, we don't want to show non-viewers in the open-with list 08.49.14 # ye ok 08.49.40 # but looking in viewers/ first and then in rocks/ sounds like a possible solution 08.49.52 # ok, ill do that 08.50.03 # i also ant to get rid of duplicates... that really annoys me :p 08.50.16 # that's a little trickier, iirc 08.50.38 # not so much 08.50.39 # Yeah, I can't think of any reason why there should ever be identically named .rocks in both viewers and plugins (and anyway, that can be avoided fairly easily) 08.52.29 # does doing continue in a for loop run the last bit before starting again? (i.e the i++ bit) 08.52.37 # Paul_The_Nerd: can that easily be avoided without removing support with plugins that can be viewer and stand-alone plugin at the same time? 08.52.52 # JdGordon: yes 08.53.00 # ta 08.53.09 # markun 08.53.14 # put the rock in rocks then 08.53.17 # markun: It shouldn't affect those. In fact, it supports them better. 08.53.32 # ok, good 08.58.17 # JdGordon: There's another plugin scanning pass in filetypes.c that checks for plugins following a certain naming condition, and adds those as viewers when found. 08.58.24 Join petur [0] (n=d4efd6a6@labb.contactor.se) 08.58.40 # * JdGordon going for dinner... 08.58.45 # ill have a look when i get back 08.58.59 # I'm not sure where this is used, or whether anyone still uses it 09.00.28 # What was it used for before? 09.00.31 # The original code was written by Henrik Backe, but he wasn't around for quite some time now 09.00.45 # last time in october 2005 as it seems 09.01.31 # amiconn what was the firefox's plugin name ? ;) 09.01.46 # Iirc he was thinking about removing this scan pass 09.01.54 Quit Rick (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.01.54 # i think we can scrap that pass 09.02.01 # Bg3r: DownThemAll, or DTA for short 09.02.03 Join Farpenoodle [0] (n=solo84@cm58.sigma6.maxonline.com.sg) 09.02.42 # 10x 09.09.18 # morning 09.12.52 Join safetydan [0] (n=dan@81-178-240-201.dsl.pipex.com) 09.13.18 Join nobelium- [0] (i=nob@c-217-70-76-221.bragatel.pt) 09.17.01 Quit Farpnut (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.18.21 Quit quobl_ ("Leaving") 09.25.19 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A459F3.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.26.29 # * JdGordon back 09.28.42 Quit Farpenoodle (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.31.00 Quit nobelium (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.32.53 # whats the general feeling about using the cpu boost? is it best to only use it if its really nescacery? 09.34.14 # * Paul_The_Nerd thinks the oscillograph should boost. 09.34.17 # Always using it during and slightly after user interaction seems sensible to me. 09.35.08 # I think the general idea is to try to avoid using it, except when necessary to maintain consistent performance. 09.35.12 # basically, it should boost when necessary 09.35.39 Join asper [0] (i=asper@host171-184.pool8253.interbusiness.it) 09.35.48 # hi guys 09.35.53 # hi guy 09.35.53 # can I have an informtaion ? 09.36.09 # does anyone has the code for the 16f84 to build a remclone ? 09.36.19 # But I think trying *too* hard to avoid boosting can create frustrating performance issues too. 09.36.24 # asper: i don't 09.36.31 # I am building the remclone but I need the hex file 09.36.39 # who has it ? 09.37.07 # in the schematics page there are only 3 pdf 09.37.23 # you could build this one instead: http://www.geocities.com/raichea/ 09.37.34 # http://users.monash.edu.au/~jdgor1/rb/open_with.patch <- finished patch... i think boosting the filetype_load_menu function might help.. but i dunno if its worth it coz atm the viewers.config is like 20lines... 09.38.10 # thanks for the link but I already have some 16f84 but no 12c508 09.39.01 Join B4gder [0] (n=daniel@static-213-115-255-230.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se) 09.39.02 # asper: the code should be very simple 09.39.19 # I know but I have no pic knowledge, I am simply able to program them 09.39.30 # unfortunately it seems that the remoclone code is lost :-( 09.39.41 # NO !!! Really ??? 09.39.45 # Paul_The_Nerd: oscillograph needs fixing anyway. It doesn't scroll the oscillogram as it should except on archos and H1x0 09.40.10 # It can't do this because it uses lcd_roll() for scrolling, which is impossible to implement for H300 09.40.11 # amiconn: The lack of scrolling doesn't look *too* bad to me, but the huge amount the speed changes on iPod when the boost goes on and off makes me cringe. :) 09.40.42 # I want to port oscilloscope as well; this one uses a timer routine to maintain constant speed 09.40.49 # Aaah, nice 09.40.55 # so none can help me with remclone hex ? 09.41.04 # Either we scrap oscillograph then, or adapt it to use soft scrolling + timer as well 09.41.11 # asper: i'm afraid i can't 09.41.20 # I'm going to scrap lcd_roll() as well 09.41.36 # so another little question: i recently bought an IPod MINI 4G colour screen... it isn't mentioned in your ipod page... 09.41.39 # asper: i think you are the first one to actually build one 09.42.04 # amiconn: go for the kill 09.42.04 # asper: There were minis with a color screen? 09.42.32 # LinusN: I am trying to build the modified RM-X2S (sony joystick) but when I found that remcolne has a 16f84 (that I already have) I changed my mind 09.43.05 # I bought a present for my brother: IPod MINI 4Gigabytes with color screen 09.43.20 # asper: do you mean the Nano? 09.43.25 # asper: the flash based one? 09.44.25 # I dunno, in the box it's written IPod Mini 09.44.37 # I didn't tryied 09.44.40 # asper: http://ipodlinux.org/Generations 09.44.51 # Mine is not mentioned there 09.45.00 #