--- Log for 25.03.106 Server: clarke.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 6 days and 0 hours ago 00.00.04 # dpassen1: no, not yet, i just coded it 00.00.18 # dpassen1: that describes the crossfeed i use 00.00.21 # Excellent 00.00.31 # dpassen1: that is, that guy more or less designed the whole thing, i just code it 00.01.59 # I'm sure I speak for more than myself when I say thank you. 00.02.18 # quite impressive research made I must say 00.03.11 # good night 00.03.15 Part tucoz ("Leaving") 00.04.12 Quit qwm_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.05.13 Quit dpro ("party mode :)") 00.08.46 Quit [TCK] (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.12.28 # what about those bass shakers ? 00.12.38 # there are some on ebay for not much money 00.20.25 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-121-88.VIC.netspace.net.au) 00.25.55 Join Febs [0] (n=cfac7a51@labb.contactor.se) 00.26.18 # amiconn: doesn't look like our bug'll be fixed anytime soon 00.30.45 Quit Vertigo_t (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.30.53 # does doom work for the X5 yet? 00.31.04 # preglow: can i see the piezo patch? 00.31.11 # Mikachu: gimme a sec 00.31.32 # afruff23: Has the Doom patch been updated? 00.31.44 # I don't think so 00.32.06 # but I haven't heard offical reports 00.32.14 # just first-time rockbox users 00.32.14 # afruff23: Well, if there's not an update to it saying "X5 support" I'd imagine that if it wasn't working before and it hasn't changed, it wouldn't be working now 00.32.23 # afruff23: You do know where the Doom patch is, right? 00.32.31 # yea 00.32.33 # the tracker 00.32.43 # under patches 00.32.49 # Since it's not in Rockbox, that's where you can expect to see "official" updates as to whether it's changed. 00.33.46 # No, I thought doom didn't work for the X5 since the users are inexperienced and din't know how toget it to work 00.33.55 # my sources are from iaudiophile 00.33.57 # .net 00.35.00 # afruff23: So, what did you want to know again? You're being told it doesn't work, it hasn't been updated to say it does work, and you aren't trying it yourself to figure out if it's just because people have applied it wrong or if it needs changes?' 00.36.04 # some people on iaudiophi;e are not that computer literate though 00.36.22 # afruff23: So, why don't you try out the patch then? 00.37.03 # because rockbox says the current firmware is for devlopers only 00.37.06 # (for the X5) 00.37.14 # and I can't play music 00.37.24 # and my download hangs at 19% 00.37.25 # You can remove it after, though 00.37.34 # for the compiler they suggest 00.37.47 # I know, but I use my music quite often 00.37.58 # Then what does it matter if Doom works, anyway? 00.38.24 # Or rather, why are you so eager that you mistrust the reports there, *and* the fact that the last update to the patch was before the X5 was supported by RB? 00.38.26 # it hangs all 3 tiems I've tried it(from different servers) 00.38.53 # I thought soem code was non-player specific 00.38.59 # Mikachu: http://www.pvv.org/~thomj/rockbox/wheelbeep.patch 00.39.00 # Mikachu: hack alert 00.39.09 # thanks 00.39.36 # wgets speed calc isn't very accurate if the download is subsecond... 00:39:18 (85.38 MB/s) - `wheelbeep.patch' saved [1880/1880] 00.39.51 # hahha 00.40.02 Quit dpassen1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.40.05 # afruff23: Some code is. But, not all code. And I asked why you're so eager and distrusting of reports. If they can't get it working, and you're not going to use it even if it does, does it matter if they're right or wrong? 00.40.29 # preglow: which of the numbers in set pitch is the pitch? 00.40.34 # afruff23: Especially since you've already admitted you can't compile yourself, so even if it *does* work, you wouldn't be able to use it until it entered CVS, at which point there would be clear documentation on which targets it works on. 00.41.10 # Mikachu: it's got a comment saying pitch 00.41.16 # Mikachu: and btw, it's not pitch, it's period 00.41.23 # Mikachu: so the smaller the number, the whinier the pitch 00.41.26 # I can't compile it, but my friend can 00.41.31 # why waste his time? 00.41.33 # ah, okay, so the 0x30 then? 00.41.36 # yea 00.41.55 Part ]RowaN[ 00.42.04 # afruff23: Because then you actually know for sure. Why *not* test it? 00.43.06 Part nnod ("Leaving") 00.43.16 # afruff23: and you're not wasting anyone's time now? 00.43.47 # if you have other things to do, then i don't mind 00.44.27 # preglow: i understand, you enable the piezo for two ticks and then disable it 00.44.29 # <- genius 00.44.34 # afruff23: I would recommend assuming it doesn't work, since you're unwilling to test "developer only" software 00.44.47 # afruff23: Rockbox probably will say developer only for well over a year for the X5 00.45.08 # It did for a long time for H120 00.45.13 # it only says developer only ebcause of no audio playback and no dual-boot 00.45.45 # afruff23: No, it says developer only because it's not release-ready yet. iPod was recommended for developers only when it had sound *and* dual boot 00.45.53 # afruff23: Doom will at least need button mappings added for the X5 - it won't compile without them. 00.46.19 # finally, a clear answer 00.46.24 # thanx linuxstb 00.46.50 # afruff23: That doesn't tell you anything. Button mappings can be done in 30 seconds, and then you're back not knowing if it works. 00.47.08 # but I wouldn't know how to map buttons 00.47.16 # and the guy has yet to update it 00.47.39 # afruff23: I could update it with button mappings, I did it for iPod at one point, but it doesn't matter since you're not willing to compile anyway. 00.48.00 # I am as long as it's worth my friend's time 00.48.13 # I thought you already declared it wasn't worth his time 00.48.15 # he's impatient 00.48.26 # * preglow hands Mikachu the golden hat of understanding 00.48.29 # If I am sure it would work, then it would be 00.48.39 # But you're not 00.48.46 # All I could guarantee was that it would compile 00.48.49 # that's why I asked to begin with 00.48.50 # That tells you nothing 00.49.01 # Mikachu: one tick sounded too weird for me, so i made it two 00.49.32 # Afruff23: Someone with the hardware has to test it. Karl doesn't have an X5 as far as I know. Neither do I. Clearly you're unwilling to actually attempt to forward the effort, so I honestly suggest you just wait until the patch itself updates and says the X5 is supported 00.50.21 # preglow: ahah, so you had a hat after all 00.50.30 # Heck, I'm a little irritated that Karl's gone and completely recoded the thing. With that necessary prboom.wad, and the "Oh, it doesn't work on iPods again" bit. 00.50.40 # Thinking about it, Doom probably won't work on the X5 because it needs a working audio driver. 00.51.13 # Paul_The_Nerd: I agree. I was about 30 minutes away from committing the first version, and then he appeared on IRC with version 2. 00.52.05 # linuxstb: That was horribly frustrating for me, because I was in the process of talking about 5 people in different places including the new maintainer of H300 optimized through patching Doom into a build, and suddenly my statement of "download the newest .zip and .diff" ended up not working for most of them. :) 00.52.29 # Mikachu: it's golden, you can't eat gold 00.52.36 # ah right 00.52.36 # Mikachu: besides, it's yours now 00.52.48 # unless if it's pure gold, that's pretty soft 00.52.57 # you could probably get it down with some strong acids 00.53.18 # which .codec file in .rockbox/codecs/ corresponds to mp3 00.53.24 # station: mpa 00.53.42 # * Mikachu tries adding piezo sound effects to brickmania for fun 00.53.42 # * linuxstb discovers a 600x600 JPEG cover art image inside the track he bought from the itunes music store 00.53.53 # 600x600?! 00.54.07 # isn't that a bit big 00.54.16 # you could have a party on that jpeg with all your friends 00.54.24 # The JPEG file is highly compressed - about 46KB. 00.54.26 # Mikachu: Every time the ball connects with something? 00.55.41 # hooray, it worked 00.55.48 # Paul_The_Nerd: i added it to firing now to test 00.56.18 # * Paul_The_Nerd thinks that little piezo buzz is eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil 00.56.40 # preglow's code doesn't sound at all like apple's 00.57.24 # Paul_The_Nerd: i'm having some trouble finding the place where ball coords are checked, brickmania is basically 2000 lines of uncommented nested for and if statements 00.57.25 # Mikachu: no, i didn't try making it sound like it either 00.57.31 # Mikachu: it uses a different freq, for one 00.57.32 # i know, just saying 00.57.39 # Mikachu: try adjusting it to more like 0x80 00.57.43 # Mikachu: i think that sounds more like iot 00.57.44 # * afruff23 thinks hotmail's spam filter is garbage 00.57.59 # Mikachu: Yeah, I've seen it. It scares me. 00.58.35 # we should force Paprica to do some commenting 00.59.28 # any links to piezo documentation? 01.00.36 # documentation??? 01.00.37 Join Zoide7777 [0] (n=800c5ab5@labb.contactor.se) 01.00.38 # * preglow has a laugh 01.00.56 Nick Zoide7777 is now known as Zoide777 (n=800c5ab5@labb.contactor.se) 01.01.04 # "documentation" + "ipod feature" is unlikely 01.01.42 # hooray 01.01.55 # bouncing at top edge = one sound, firing lazors = other sound 01.01.56 # much success 01.02.20 # ooohhh 01.02.23 # Now do voice! 01.02.25 # commit? 01.02.27 # :D 01.02.34 # Zoide777: uh, it's a bit incomplete... 01.02.35 # that would be the fastest feature addition ever 01.02.41 # and i'm not a devel 01.02.47 # and it probably only works on nano, preglow? 01.02.48 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-77-247.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr) 01.02.55 # as in what is piexo sound effects exactly? 01.03.02 # piezo* 01.03.10 # it is the builtin speaker element in the ipods 01.03.20 Part Paul_The_Nerd 01.03.25 # seriously... 01.03.38 # it's a piece of metal that changes shape when you put voltage over it 01.03.44 # changing shape == emitting sound 01.04.11 # i wonder what .tempy and .tempx is 01.04.11 # Mikachu: nah, should work on most newer ipods 01.04.14 # okay 01.04.26 Join qwm_ [0] (n=qwm@h147n2fls32o1010.telia.com) 01.04.27 # but don't commit it 01.04.43 # i can't, don't worry :) 01.04.49 # ahh, right 01.04.49 # haha 01.04.59 # i can't remember who's bloody commiters in here anymore 01.05.04 # i talk too much for a user 01.05.15 # hooray, found the code where blocks are destroyed 01.05.22 # if (brick[i*10+j].hits > 0) { 01.05.30 # purdy 01.05.31 # i think... 01.06.02 # oh god, i just realized to what extent this code is ugly :) 01.06.40 # from your dereminds me of some ti-basic games... 01.06.53 # *description 01.08.02 # * BoD[] is working on a "scifi / old green terminal" theme for the ipod 01.08.12 # that if statement is in 5 places in the code, one for each edge of the block that can be hit, and one more i can't figure out yet 01.08.20 # oh, maybe for firing 01.08.38 # but now is the time to dodo :) 01.08.42 # good night all 01.08.47 # bye bod 01.08.58 Nick BoD[] is now known as BoD[sleeping] (n=BoD@JRAF.org) 01.11.16 # hooray, sounds on block destruction 01.11.25 # this is starting to sound like impact for atari if anyone's played that :) 01.12.09 Join Kyomi [0] (n=a@24-196-196-108.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com) 01.13.17 Quit muesli__ ("ich will Kühe!!!") 01.14.14 Quit qwm (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.14.46 Part carini 01.17.05 Join eEye_ [0] (i=shift@CPE000c6e94cf09-CM001225d870de.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 01.17.25 # does anybody have an iaudio x5? 01.18.36 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.18.46 # me 01.19.24 Join carini [0] (n=drothe@pool-71-112-6-30.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 01.20.46 Part carini 01.20.53 Join carini [0] (n=drothe@pool-71-112-6-30.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 01.21.18 Quit afruff23 ("IceChat - Its what Cool People use") 01.24.06 # preglow: http://mikachu.ath.cx/patches/rockbox-brickmania_piezo_sound_ipod_WIP.patch :) 01.24.16 # sorry for the noise in the patch 01.24.28 # Mikachu: what's it do... 01.24.41 # sound when the ball hits stuff 01.26.07 # haha 01.26.11 # gotta try that out 01.28.04 # i think i catched all the cases of stopping the piezo, but i can't promise it 01.28.08 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@124.60.15.86) 01.28.12 # wiki spam 01.28.14 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowardSnyderlkbe8 01.29.02 Join dpassen1 [0] (n=dpassen1@cpe-24-168-110-99.si.res.rr.com) 01.29.08 Quit dpassen1 (Client Quit) 01.29.15 # Jungti1234: y0, bad bad 01.29.26 # um? 01.29.34 # kill it :-) 01.29.39 # :) 01.31.26 Part carini 01.31.34 # hahaha 01.31.38 # beep 01.31.39 # beep 01.31.49 # i hope you disabled your button beeping first 01.32.08 # or maybe it won't interfere in 2 ticks anyway 01.32.15 # i disabled it, yeah 01.32.19 # my ticks aren't exactly ticks, just game frames 01.32.44 # damn 01.32.51 # brickmania on h100 is almost unplayable 01.32.54 # thanks to the lcd slowness 01.33.08 # can't see what the different bonuses are 01.33.11 # i keep running into d's 01.33.39 Join carini_ [0] (n=daveroth@pool-71-112-6-30.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 01.35.56 # i've already finished the game :) 01.35.59 # When you pause and un pause it kinda of ramps the volume on and off,,,can that feature be shut off in prefs? 01.36.07 # yes 01.36.09 # you can finish it? :> 01.36.15 # yeah, there are only 30 levels or so 01.36.25 # does anyone have an iaudio x5? 01.36.26 # only 01.36.27 # ahahah 01.36.28 # Mikachu: wheere? 01.36.29 # :) 01.36.34 # with absolute controlling with the wheel, it's actually possible to play 01.36.41 # scottder: er, somewhere, dig around 01.36.44 Quit Daishi ("Client exiting...") 01.36.49 # does anybody have an iaudio x5? | me 01.36.51 # Mikachu: absolute controlling? 01.37.03 # Mikachu: as in moves to an absolute position as according to the wheel? 01.37.07 # Ah found it 01.37.08 # :) 01.37.09 # yeah it checks where your finger is and puts the pad in that palce 01.37.17 # oh 01.37.20 # He left, sorry 01.37.22 # Mikachu: fancy-ass, why's that not in cvs? 01.37.28 # preglow: ask lostlogic :) 01.37.32 # lostlogic: ! 01.38.11 # preglow: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4721 01.38.24 Part carini_ 01.38.46 Join carini [0] (n=daveroth@pool-71-112-6-30.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 01.38.56 Join unhcr [0] (n=none@adsl-068-209-242-229.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) 01.39.05 # hey you guys 01.39.08 # great work on the X5 01.39.13 # is anyone here who is working on it? 01.39.20 Join interestediaudio [0] (n=4333f36f@labb.contactor.se) 01.39.34 # eEye_: I've got an X5. Why? 01.40.02 # unhcr: mno 01.40.15 # i don't believe any iaudio people are here now 01.40.16 Join dbzdeath [0] (n=dbzdeath@203-166-244-147.dyn.iinet.net.au) 01.40.26 # ah okay 01.40.35 # i wanted to know if the audio driver is being tested any time soon 01.41.44 # i have no idea 01.41.46 # Mikachu: it was in system settings 01.41.50 # linus is in charge of that stuff 01.42.05 # preglow: you saw the tracker url i guess 01.42.09 # Mikachu: aye 01.42.25 # ah okay 01.42.25 # i'm working on other stuff now, though, so am not allowing myself to even try, heh 01.42.31 # i like brickmania style games too much 01.42.31 # lol 01.42.32 # okay :) 01.42.37 # hey can someone please help me? my iriver h340 sort of froze and i can't turn the power off using the power off button 01.42.45 # it also makes pacbox a lot less hard on your fingers 01.42.48 # dbzdeath: what about the reset pin 01.42.48 # ? 01.43.20 # (h3x0 does have a reset button, yeah?) 01.43.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.43.39 # hmm maybe 01.43.47 # small hole in the bottom of the unit 01.44.03 # you've gotta get something small to stuff in there and press a small button 01.44.07 # i see it 01.44.09 # yeah 01.44.10 # just be careful 01.44.21 # if you break that button, you have no means to reset it again 01.44.46 # does that actually reset? 01.44.59 # yup 01.45.03 # hard reset 01.45.04 Quit unhcr () 01.45.04 # just hold it in? 01.45.09 # small press will do 01.45.14 # don't need to hold 01.45.43 # interestediaudio, how do you like your x5? 01.46.07 # from the nick, i'd guess he's about to set fire to it while yelling "i hate you" 01.46.17 # Quite a bit, actually. 01.46.29 # preglow: oh thank you so much! you're a life saver... i have a long road trip to go on right now :) cya 01.46.44 # dbzdeath: you're welcome 01.46.51 # dbzdeath: bring the reset thing along with you :) 01.46.59 # yeah :) 01.47.17 # Cowon's being a pain in the butt about the firmware updates (hence my interest in Rockbox), but I like the player itself, and the mass-storage is a lifesaver. 01.47.27 # any twig on the ground will do 01.47.35 # interestediaudio, i just got one 01.47.52 # i have a question though, when i have it hooked up through usb is it charging? 01.47.56 Join Daishi [0] (n=daishi@ool-18bcf48a.dyn.optonline.net) 01.47.57 Join Arrogant [0] (i=Scott@7.orlando-09-10rs.fl.dial-access.att.net) 01.48.14 # isnt it supposed to say its charging? and can i transfer files and charge at the same time? 01.49.10 # eEye_, only when it is off. If it's connected through USB and it says "connected", it's not charging. The best way to tell if it's charging is the light at the top. 01.50.15 # I wonder why so many people register with the wiki but do not modify or write a single page... 01.50.29 # You can transfer files and charge, but not both through USB. If you plug in both the AC adapter and the USB cord, you can charge while transferring. 01.50.48 # ahh ok 01.50.49 # i see 01.50.54 # I used the wiki for a while before registering. And I registered the moment I wrote my first article/change 01.51.03 # thanks interestediaudio 01.51.04 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-210-4.dsl.pipex.com) 01.51.10 # also, is rockbox working for the x5? 01.51.42 # Paprica: the Paused text isn't cleared from the screen when you unpause in tetrox 01.52.13 # interestiaudio, about the firmware.. which version should I run? 01.52.31 # sorry for all the questions but im new to the x5 01.52.56 # eEye_: everybody is new to the x5 :-) 01.53.39 # how so? ;) 01.54.06 # well, it's only a few days that the bootloader is working 01.54.25 # oh 01.54.28 # i see.. you mean with rockbox 01.54.34 # yup 01.54.45 # and only very few have such a device LinusN and Moos from what I know 01.54.55 # so its fully usable with rockbox now? 01.54.59 # or more needs to be done 01.55.02 Quit Kohlrabi (Nick collision from services.) 01.55.07 # a lot more needs to be done 01.55.10 # ah 01.55.11 Join Kohlriba [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-128-201.pools.arcor-ip.net) 01.55.14 # it's not even yet playing music 01.57.29 # I wonder why so many people register with the wiki but do not modify or write a single page... | people got used to instant-click on registration buttons beacuse of all these mandatory-registration-forums ;) 01.57.57 # arf 01.57.58 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp81-adsl-198.ath.forthnet.gr) 01.58.17 # I refrain from adding a comment or correcting a fact somewhere when I need to register 01.58.39 # (impressive how many people a peeking the log continuosly :-) 01.58.53 # OMG! 01.59.04 # There is a big chance that I won an H115! 01.59.11 # really ? 01.59.17 # arf 01.59.23 # the fw? Well, there's a new korean version out, it's the finalization of the v10. It allows for video resume. 01.59.26 # or is it a spam mail saying ? 01.59.31 # yeah on MR. There was a subscriber giveaway contest 01.59.32 # congratz then 01.59.42 # thanks! :D 02.00.13 # If you want DRM (you shouldn't), there were some 10betas under the English version that worked with drm. 02.00.47 # BTW: The korean version isn't actually in Korean, it is just the area the firmware has been tailored for. (Koreans don't use Windows Media DRM.) 02.06.10 Quit eEye_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.08.25 Join Ironhand [0] (i=arjen@meek.xs4all.nl) 02.09.50 Join Vertigo_t [0] (i=vertah@cor7-ppp2783.bur.dsl.connect.net.au) 02.18.30 Quit Pieter_ () 02.21.54 # How long after the iaudio audio driver release will it show up on the main wikipedia? 02.22.02 # Or-on the iaudio port wikipedia. 02.22.23 # instantly I would say. 02.22.25 Quit Jungti1234 () 02.22.36 # most of the times when something big happens the wiki is updated 02.23.10 # interestediaudio: there is only -one- wikipedia (wikipedia.org) 02.23.27 # Sorry. Word slip. Wiki. 02.23.33 # :) 02.28.45 Quit interestediaudio ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 02.34.44 # Mikachu: dues your brickmania piezo patch work by itself or does it require applying a piezo patch first? 02.38.28 # *does 02.39.25 Quit Kohlriba ("Fast alle Menschen sind Regenwürmer") 02.51.09 Quit station ("bye") 02.56.18 Quit RoC_MM ("Leaving") 02.58.24 Quit ep0ch (Connection reset by peer) 02.59.52 Join nudelyn [0] (i=nudel@dynamic-62-56-63-132.park-s46b.dslaccess.co.uk) 03.00.21 # bye 03.00.23 Quit Zoide777 ("CGI:IRC") 03.00.29 Quit lImbus (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Try something fresh") 03.01.07 Join DJ_Dooms_Day [0] (n=DJDD@220-245-184-47.static.tpgi.com.au) 03.09.11 Quit bagawk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.10.12 Quit nudel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.13.11 Join SamAdam [0] (n=Sam@cpe-24-210-72-76.columbus.res.rr.com) 03.14.00 # hey all 03.14.43 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=jborn@adsl-75-3-22-48.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 03.14.51 Join nudel [0] (i=nudel@dynamic-62-56-39-149.park-s46b.dslaccess.co.uk) 03.15.30 # ipod, 5g, rockbox bootloader, how do to switch to retal OS? 03.16.39 Quit Vertigo_t (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.17.25 # scratch that 03.20.34 Quit hardeep ("[BX] Save water -- drink beer!") 03.20.55 Quit SamAdam ("Leaving") 03.21.13 Quit Moos ("Glory to Rockbox !!!") 03.23.15 Join bagawk [0] (n=lee@unaffiliated/bagawk) 03.23.47 Join Vertigo_t [0] (i=vertah@cor9-ppp1683.bur.dsl.connect.net.au) 03.24.55 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 03.25.37 Quit herz42 ("Und wech") 03.26.01 Quit nudelyn (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03.26.11 Join nudelyn [0] (i=nudel@dynamic-62-56-39-149.park-s46b.dslaccess.co.uk) 03.30.24 # Anyone here who has made a wps recently? Specifically, it says that one of the %pb variables is height, but I don't know if that means "how tall" or "y coordinate" 03.31.59 Join qwm [0] (n=qwm@h147n2fls32o1010.telia.com) 03.32.29 Quit nudel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.35.22 # Paul_The_Nerd: Any luck on getting the next song info to work when the next song is in another dir? 03.36.18 # Kyomi: I think that the current way playlists work prevents that from happening, because when you're playing in directory mode the next song isn't in the current playlist. But don't quote me, I don't know much about that bug. 03.38.41 Part YouCeyE ("Leaving") 03.42.10 Quit qwm_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.43.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.48.46 Join creidiki [0] (n=5409ec8f@labb.contactor.se) 03.49.44 # one quick question: what should i set the buffer to for max battery life? 03.49.57 # creidiki: The anti-skip buffer? 03.50.17 # yar 03.50.24 # As low as you can. 03.50.50 # k, thought as much, thnx :) 03.51.14 # As far as I know, the anti-skip buffer level sets the point at which it spins up the HD to refill the compressed audio buffer. The lower you set it, the later it waits before spinning up, and the less often it needs to refill 03.51.15 Quit creidiki (Client Quit) 03.52.28 Join enzyme [0] (n=hdgdf@207.81.78.2) 03.52.42 Quit tianjing (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.54.22 # echo //$prefix 03.54.30 # oops 03.55.19 # i need help loading themes on my ipod 03.55.34 # enzyme: What problem are you having? 03.55.52 # the wps files are not loading 03.55.56 # i have the 5g 03.56.17 # echo //$snicks 03.56.22 # damn! 03.56.32 # The .wps files and the bitmap folders that share their names are in the /.rockbox/wps folder, and the .cfg files are in /.rockbox/themes? 03.57.13 # yup 03.57.45 # Does it give an error message? 03.57.47 # Does the theme change at all? 03.58.06 # it says it loads it on but nothing changes 03.58.29 # enzyme: No font changes, and when you play music the screen isn't any different? 03.59.29 # ok thnks fixed it 03.59.35 # What was wrong? 04.01.08 # how come the backdrop doesnt go through out all of the menues 04.01.28 # Which menus isn't it in? 04.01.43 # it only works on the play screen 04.01.51 # Oh, then they've only set a WPS backdrop 04.02.01 # but i had one that had the same back drop on all of the menu settings 04.02.01 # You can set a WPS backdrop and a Menu backdrop separately in a theme 04.02.18 # The menu backdrop .bmp needs to be in the /.rockbox/backdrops folder 04.03.00 # ok 04.03.03 # thnks 04.11.27 Quit enzyme () 04.15.10 Quit Arrogant (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.21.17 # What's the best way to get a patch committed? 04.21.44 # Write the patch, submit it to the tracker, then come in here and see if there's any devs who are willing to let you know if they see anything wrong with it. 04.22.09 # OK, I've done the first two parts. http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4913 04.22.32 # Also http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4905, which was useful for testing 4913. 04.23.24 # Alright, well now you'd have to wait for someone with commit access to be around and ask them what they think 04.23.33 # Unfortunately, I think most of them aren't here right now 04.24.41 # OK, thanks for the help. Are there times when committers are more likely to be here? 04.25.44 # Well, it differs for each of them, but a lot of them are in various parts of Europe. 04.26.13 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.32.15 Join biffhero [0] (n=rob@216.218.222.116) 04.34.11 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.35.21 # ok, rockbox rocks 04.36.13 Join jborn_ [0] (n=jborn@adsl-75-3-22-48.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 04.37.45 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 04.38.54 # they come, they go, but they say nary a word. 04.42.53 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 04.43.31 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.43.31 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.46.51 # does anyone know the proper settings for the battery size for the 5G 60G ipod? 04.47.33 # You mean the capacity in the menu? That's pretty much irrelevant at the moment, since the approximated time remaining is pretty incorrect for the time being. 04.47.38 # ok 04.47.41 # thx 04.53.25 Quit JoeBorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.54.51 # Any devs around that can take a quick look at a patch? 05.01.21 Join Rob2222_ [0] (n=Miranda@ACAD1F87.ipt.aol.com) 05.09.21 Join tkprojects [0] (n=chatzill@c-24-13-177-60.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 05.11.11 # ~seen wafro 05.12.31 # anyone know wafro or how I can get in tocuh with him 05.12.48 # I've honestly never even seen someone by that name in here 05.16.28 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.19.13 Join JoeBorn [0] (i=jborn@51.sub-70-216-229.myvzw.com) 05.19.36 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05.20.27 Part carini 05.22.07 # is the libitunesdb software gpl? I was going to muck about with it, but I am confused by the COPYING file 05.22.30 Join enzyme [0] (n=hdgdf@d207-81-78-2.bchsia.telus.net) 05.23.14 # is there a way for music to stop skipping yet 05.23.49 # enzyme: It's been talked about a *lot* on the forums. Disable the peakmeter, use simple WPSes with no graphics, and/or turn off the equalizer 05.24.03 Quit mikearthur (Remote closed the connection) 05.24.08 # biffhero: Can you link me to a copy of it somewhere? 05.25.07 # where isd the peakmeter found 05.25.08 # yes, I saw it mentioned in the wiki on the page about ipods, they mentioned that libitunesdb was used by (some other project) 05.25.09 # http://internap.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/libitunesdb/libitunesdb_0.5.2.tar.gz 05.25.23 # enzyme: The %pm line in any given WPS 05.26.43 # Paul, here you go... http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodHardwareInfo at the bottom of the page.... http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ManualWpsContextMenu and their page links to that earlier link I pasted 05.28.15 # COPYING is pretty liberal, but I don't want to use something that will make my contributions (pretty low chance of any anyway...) null. 05.28.40 Join jborn__ [0] (n=jborn@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 05.28.54 # biffhero: Well, that's definitely not the GPL. Or were you asking if it's GPL compatible? I dunno, but since it says acknowledgement must be given in the docs 'n such, I think that's an advertising clause 05.29.24 Quit jborn__ (Client Quit) 05.30.00 # hrmm.. but it is used by podzilla, need to look at the license for _that_ 05.30.56 # Well, I'm hardly an expert in these things. 05.31.08 # COPYING in pz2 is GPL 05.31.16 # It's a very liberal license, but my gut says it won't work. I dunno. 05.31.45 # I just can't believe how life can be so strange!!!! 05.32.33 Quit enzyme () 05.32.57 # My new H300 came from a second RMA today. (after it wasn't fixed) It appeared to be OK at first but then It broke again.... 05.34.37 # While, I was just cursing my f*cking luck with this damn unit, I learned that I won a MR subscriber giveaway contest! (prize iHp115) 05.36.30 Quit jborn_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.37.36 # Before I learn the outcome of the contest, I was desperate and made an open surgerry of my defective H300. 05.38.30 # Took my soldering iron and I was re-solding random joints. At some point I finally managed to fix it..... though time will tell for how long!!!! 05.39.41 Quit JoeBorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.43.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.43.55 Quit DJ_Dooms_Day (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.47.07 Join kernel_sensei [0] (n=boris@gentoo/developer/kernelsensei) 05.48.37 Quit Daishi ("Client exiting...") 05.56.03 Join carini [0] (n=daveroth@pool-71-112-6-30.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 05.59.11 Quit kernelsensei (Connection timed out) 05.59.11 Nick kernel_sensei is now known as kernelsensei (n=boris@gentoo/developer/kernelsensei) 06.02.46 Part carini 06.04.17 # XavierGr, what was with the soldering? Were they randomly defective? 06.04.44 # I am not sure. I just had USB OTG problems from the start. 06.04.51 # ick 06.05.15 # I sent it there and they didn't fix it. I sent it again, and they fix it only to see the failure again after a few tries 06.05.41 # I just couldn't stand it and took the law on my hands :D 06.05.58 # But I am not sure if this will going to last either. 06.09.53 # paul, I agree. I think I should wait until I hear more from the people in charge of such things. The interesting-est part to me is how his README says he got the info from a certain file in the gtkpod project. and the gtkpod project _is_ gpl 06.10.33 # Gotcha 06.10.57 # Odd that 06.13.10 # * Paul_The_Nerd had forgotten just how flexible TI-BASIC really was. 06.13.36 # I hold down _menu_ while plugging in the iPod, and the battery icon shows charging activity, that's good. but is it safe to mount the drives and copy files to it? 06.13.43 # what are you using TI-BASIC for? 06.15.09 # what is party mode? 06.21.12 # biffhero: You shouldn't be able to mount it while in Rockbox. 06.21.30 # oh, that's right, the whole "disk mode" thing. 06.21.33 # Also, Party Mode is basically a mode that, while enabled, removes your ability to stop music (both accidentally and intentionally) 06.22.07 # As for TI-BASIC, I finally replaced my long gone '89, and I'm reacquainting myself before I start rebuilding my various tools 06.22.41 # engineering school? 06.24.19 # Just a variety of things. Personal use, gaming of various sorts. As a way to quickly test out algorithms and/or jot them down for actual use later when a computer's not at hand 06.42.53 Quit ashridah (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.45.25 Join bagawk_ [0] (n=lee@65-100-8-67.eugn.qwest.net) 06.45.48 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-122-55.VIC.netspace.net.au) 06.46.59 # I am trying to compile from CVS. I chose 15 (iPod video), what build type to I pick? I chose Normal, but that didn't barf about not finding an arm compiler 06.48.27 # Well, what happens when you type arm-elf-gcc --version? 06.49.34 # arm-elf-gcc (GCC) 3.4.3 06.50.18 # I am an idiot. must go to bed now. it was using that one. I saw elf, and parsed x86 06.50.32 # You should be using 4.0.x anyway 06.50.50 # For arm, 3.4.x generates bad code sometimes. 06.51.19 # uh, oh 06.52.17 # this arm is from the ipodlinux group. which arm-elf-gcc ... /usr/local/arm-uclinux-tools2/bin/arm-elf-gcc 06.53.04 # good news is gcc --version.... gcc (GCC) 4.0.3 20060212 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.2-9) so I shold be able to apt-get the right one 06.53.08 Quit Kyomi () 06.53.13 # Well, for the purposes of rockbox, arm-elf-gcc 4.0.x is the expected. 06.53.43 # 3.4.x could work, but it didn't work properly for the bootloader at least, at an earlier stage. 06.55.54 # so 'make zip' is what I want, right? 06.56.00 # make, then make zip 06.56.14 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-210-4.dsl.pipex.com) 06.56.45 # ick, dies 06.56.59 # make zip ... xargs: zip: No such file or directory 06.57.10 # apt-get install zip might help with that 06.57.32 # um, this is odd 06.57.36 # hm? 06.57.44 # of course, doh! 06.58.16 # yeah, because I don't want to make gzip.... 06.58.23 Quit bagawk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.58.55 # well, I believe there's make bzip, make gzip and make 7zip alternatives 06.59.07 # thanks for your patience 06.59.47 # no problem 07.05.58 Quit RotAtoR ("zzzzzzzzz") 07.06.55 Quit Paul_The_Nerd ("Leaving.") 07.09.34 Quit bagawk_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.29.05 Quit biffhero ("[BX] Hey, where's the cream filling?!") 07.32.25 Part XavierGr 07.35.30 Join bam_ [0] (n=bam@pool-71-108-99-77.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 07.35.35 # morning 07.36.29 # anyone know why when I turn off the replaygain, the volume doesnt resume back to "normal" 07.43.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.46.47 # bbl 07.47.05 Quit bam_ (Remote closed the connection) 08.03.47 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@124.60.15.86) 08.03.56 # hi 08.04.38 # anyone? 08.10.48 Quit Jungti1234 () 08.14.25 Quit Febs ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 08.34.54 Join bam_ [0] (n=bam@pool-71-108-99-77.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 08.36.39 # morning 08.37.18 # back to my question, why isnt my volume resuming to normal after unselecting replaygain? 08.37.23 # any ideas? 08.39.47 # mid-playback? can't it only be reset at the start of playback? 08.42.09 # tried rebooting as well 08.42.14 # no-change 08.42.52 # also isnt when you press the stop button then press the play button>>isnt it supposed to start playing? 08.44.03 # sounds like a bug then. guess you'll need to wake up a dev :/ 08.44.13 # yes 08.44.16 # that's right 08.44.36 # whuts right? 08.44.47 # the play/stop dealie? 08.44.58 # you're right, it's supposed to start playing again 08.45.00 # or the replaygain 08.45.33 # well its not I have to press play 2 more time to get it to play...:( 08.45.56 # hm. wait. how recent is your compile of rockbox? 08.46.07 # the newest 08.46.27 # daily build 08.46.55 # okay, they recently added an option to have the unit ignore the first button press that has to turn the backlight back on 08.47.13 # it's supposed to be a config option i think 08.47.26 # lemme check that theory 08.48.28 Join ScoTTie_ [0] (n=scott@unaffiliated/scottie) 08.48.40 Quit ScoTTie (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.49.48 # nope doesnt work as planned 08.53.01 # and replaygain, once turned on cant turn it off.... 08.54.39 # other than those 2 minor issues, great work dev's 08.54.43 # :) 08.54.48 Quit ScoTTie_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.54.48 Join ScoTTie [0] (n=scott@unaffiliated/scottie) 08.55.31 # oh quick, one more question, how do I browse the tag database once created? 08.57.04 # assuming it's working, you change the 'show files' option under 'general settings->file view->show files' to ID3 database 08.58.52 # ohh...cool 09.02.19 # although keep in mind that the tagdb as it currently stands has been stagnating for a while, mostly because a dynamic tag db is eventually going to replace it. 09.03.58 # oh, didnt know 09.04.09 # it's been in the works for a while 09.04.13 Join zoneout [0] (n=r@84-51-129-124.rickmo645.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 09.04.37 # tagdb as it stands may or may not work perfectly, but if it doesn't, it's mostly because no-one wants to waste time working on something that'll be replaced 09.05.06 # agree 09.05.16 # doesnt work too well 09.07.07 Join ScoTTie_ [0] (n=scott@unaffiliated/scottie) 09.07.45 # hey is there a way to set the default playlist directory(whenever creating playlists)? 09.08.08 Quit ScoTTie (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.13.20 Join webguest84 [0] (n=3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) 09.15.18 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-39-249.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 09.20.08 Join SereR0KR [0] (n=Fletcher@Fd5ef.f.strato-dslnet.de) 09.30.23 Quit ScoTTie_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.30.46 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.39.40 Join ScoTTie [0] (n=scott@unaffiliated/scottie) 09.40.14 Quit bam_ (Remote closed the connection) 09.43.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.46.53 Quit TCK ("well, if you say so.") 10.11.18 Join JdGordon [0] (n=JdGordon@c211-28-227-249.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 10.12.09 # evenig all 10.15.12 Join nave7693 [0] (i=evan@c-71-198-247-170.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 10.16.27 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@rockbox/developer/tucoz) 10.23.11 Join Siku [0] (n=Siku@f303b.w3.ton.tut.fi) 10.26.42 Part nave7693 10.26.55 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m20.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 10.31.38 Join quobl_ [0] (n=quobl@tor/session/x-fe765b718f6f31f8) 10.35.39 # hmm. I have to say I'm really impressed by the documentation effort. 10.36.28 # However, there's still a lot of work left to do on the manual 10.36.48 Join safetydan [0] (n=dan@rockbox/developer/safetydan) 10.37.33 # is the manual being built automatically yet? 10.37.42 # JdGordon, no I think not 10.38.03 # I just checked a build of the recorder manual. 10.38.33 # Some parts are still generic and need to be made target-specific 10.39.09 # amiconn, yes. I know. I see if I can get some parts done today 10.39.23 # Then there are plugins documented which are no longer shipped, and for some existing plugins the button documentation isn't always correct 10.39.49 # e.g. helloworld and grayscale can be removed 10.40.22 # I guess even the Plugin* wiki pages aren't always correct 10.41.18 # amiconn, I think nls will remove those 10.42.22 # hmm, just got my concept code of the sorting for chunked tagcache browsing ready :) still some functions needs to be tested and code debugged 10.42.33 # should be ready for commit before the feature freeze 10.43.05 # Hooray \o/ 10.43.14 # :-) Hi Slasheri btw 10.43.19 # hi :) 10.44.08 # Good thing the manual has the whole freeze period to get up to date 10.44.13 # and catch up 10.44.24 # which is the same as getting up to date, silly me 10.44.56 # amiconn, we just recently got the key-macros in cvs to be used for button documentation 10.45.04 # Why might fclose cause a segfault? (not rockbox related, just thought someone might know) 10.45.06 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@87.193.52.52) 10.45.19 # if the file is null? 10.45.30 # I check that when I open. 10.45.43 # or it's called against a FILE * that was never initialized to begin with 10.46.22 # That is why the buttons in a lot of places have wrong names. 10.46.30 # Guess I need to simplify my code to see what's going on. 10.52.16 # which wiki page do you suggest I use as a template for iriver install instructions? 10.54.31 # iriverboot ? 10.54.43 # or iriverinstall i mean 10.55.19 # ok, thanks 10.57.00 # * JdGordon is bored 11.04.59 # * webguest84 is in malloc hell 11.05.50 # you know, i've never found keeping malloc/free straight to be a major issue 11.06.30 # i mean, i know they can be, and if i was working on larger works, it probably would be, but it just seems easier than everyone makes out ;) 11.06.57 # That's not it. I have a completely unrelated call to malloc somewhere that apparently makes my later fclose() call segfault. 11.07.06 # And it's driving me absolutely nuts 11.07.20 # ah, it's probably the free() fclose does 11.07.58 # i've had this. you're probably malloc()ing some amount that's too small 11.08.39 # it can be a royal pain to track down tho 11.08.46 # Absolutely 11.09.01 # oh well, at least it's not a huge thing 11.09.08 # i can suggest trying valgrind 11.09.32 # it may help tracking down the issue, but it depends exactly how it's occuring 11.11.15 # preglow, is gui code really that bad? 11.11.50 # safetydan: for rb? its not bad, for windows it fucking sux! 11.12.04 # * ashridah huggles libglade 11.12.10 # nah, preglow just seems to have an aversion to writing anything gui related :) 11.12.12 # sif do gui in code. 11.12.53 # ashridah, I await your port of libglade to rockbox :) 11.13.12 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 11.13.16 # i think rockbox can live without an XML parser 11.13.28 Quit linuxstb (Nick collision from services.) 11.13.32 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 11.14.03 Join KN|stiff [0] (n=phhome@Fd0db.f.strato-dslnet.de) 11.14.33 # but a completely scripted user interface wouldn't necessarily be bad. it'd potentially give rockbox some fairly extreme levels of theming. it'd also be a royal bitch to cram into some architectures like archos, i'd imgine 11.14.46 # JdGordon: Are you planning on moving your plugin audio menu to the plugin lib? 11.15.04 # my friends are fucking wierdos.. we r going for a hike out in the country! (its 9.15pm here, and we aint leaving for 20min) 11.15.09 # whats needs to change? 11.16.24 # I don't know what others think, but LinusN wanted it moved from the core to the plugin lib. 11.16.59 # i dont really see the diff.. but ok.. what needs to change in the code? 11.17.07 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-128-201.pools.arcor-ip.net) 11.17.28 # JdGordon, plugin lib code isn't included in the core so less memory is used when a plugin isn't running 11.17.35 Join fox010 [0] (n=Miranda@plz-84-242-95-195.nat.karneval.cz) 11.17.59 Join dpassen1 [0] (n=dpassen1@resnet-236-163.resnet.UMBC.EDU) 11.18.19 # safetydan: the plugin buffer is fixed size isn't it? 11.18.29 # JdGordon: Your new functions need to be in a file in apps/plugins/lib/, which plugins can use directly, rather than via the rb-> API. 11.18.33 # so what do you mean bij "less memory is used when a plugin isn't running" ? 11.18.58 # I came to think of a useful addition to a plugin menu. Add control of the backlight to the plugins 11.19.22 # linuxstb: and all the functions need to use their rb-> equivilant in my code htne? 11.19.26 # then*? 11.19.48 # t0mas: It means that the code (and associated data) doesn't reside in the core, so the core needs less memory and the binary gets smaller 11.19.59 # t0mas, what amiconn said :) 11.20.01 # ooh ok, good for archos 11.20.21 # plugin binaries using the new functions get larger, but that doesn't matter as long as they still fit into the plugin buffer, 11.20.23 # and other targets too, more memory for file buffering is always good 11.20.23 # I was thinking I missed some mem management ;) 11.20.29 # which, as you said, has a fixed size 11.20.39 # linuxstb: the only thing about moving it is we loose lang support untill langv2.. so whos that coming along? 11.20.44 # safetydan: no, not more memovery for buffering 11.20.51 # that's what I tried to ask/explain 11.21.07 # .. why isnt lang suport availble to pugins anyway? 11.21.13 # t0mas, if the rockbox image is smaller, there is more memory available...? 11.21.21 # JdGordon, that is a langv2 feature I think 11.21.23 # oh wait... 11.21.31 # ignore me... I'm just out of bed ;) 11.21.36 # :) 11.21.53 # JdGordon, langv2 is checked in as far as I know, someone just needs to extend it to the plugins 11.22.04 # nice :) 11.22.06 # langv2 isn't used yet 11.22.24 # ah, so it's not hooked up yet? 11.22.26 # brb 11.22.34 # The scripts for handling it are in, but the build system doesn't use it yet 11.22.49 # There's some work left before this can be done 11.23.55 Join Rondom_ [0] (n=Rondom@87.193.52.242) 11.26.25 # hmm... moving it to plugin lib is gonna bloat out the plugin size more than the exe size... coz i need to duplicate funcions which are in the core code... 11.26.41 Quit Rondom (Nick collision from services.) 11.26.49 Nick Rondom_ is now known as Rondom (n=Rondom@87.193.52.242) 11.27.10 # JdGordon: Which ones? 11.27.24 # playlist viewer and searcher... checkng which other ones 11.27.30 # Usually you don't have to reimplement core functions. Just call them via the plugin api 11.27.34 # (admitedly, they dont really need to be there..) 11.28.39 # .. well i could just add those 2 functions to the api.. 11.30.03 # what other functions are wanted in the menu? atm its got play/pause, prev/next/stop, volume, shuffle, repeat mode, search and view playlist... 11.30.46 Join Rondom_ [0] (n=Rondom@87.193.52.130) 11.31.32 Quit Rondom (Nick collision from services.) 11.31.36 Nick Rondom_ is now known as Rondom (n=Rondom@87.193.52.130) 11.32.24 # I don't think we really need playlist access in a plugin menu 11.32.42 # its nice to have.. 11.32.48 # but ye, not nescacery 11.33.06 # amiconn, what work is needed for langv2? I've got some time at the moment. 11.33.09 # Well, I'm either using a plugin, or using fancy playback stuff 11.33.24 # safetydan: First, me finishing .lang rework 11.34.00 # Then, converting all .lang to v2, and adapting the voice generation script to understand .lang v2 format 11.35.08 # right, so we're dependant on the .lang rework then 11.35.19 # The latter isn't straightforward, as the language script itself are written in perl, and the voice generation script is a vbscript 11.35.33 # (due to the fact that it has to work with SAPI) 11.35.45 # yepp :( 11.36.45 # ashridah: Nailed it. I had forgot to malloc some space for the struct in which I was mallocing.. soooo.. that didn't work out too well.. 11.37.01 # Using a pointer that points nowhere isn't a good idea, it turns out 11.37.13 # or rather, nowhere special 11.37.55 # who knew 11.38.49 # safetydan: Unfortunately people keep adding and adding to english.lang. That doesn't make my rework easier ;/ 11.40.22 # is langv2 gonne be neater? i.e let u add in the middle of the file? 11.40.29 Join PhR3aK [0] (n=A@pD95292A6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.40.29 # nope 11.40.48 # That would still break backwards compatibility 11.40.48 # How is that better? 11.40.54 # oh well.. 11.40.56 # langv2 has 2 main points 11.41.38 # (1) Strings not necessary for a specific target can be blanked (note: blanked, not left out) so they just waste 1 byte 11.42.08 # That's because that feature might get implemented later, so the string id has to stay 11.43.19 # .. and 2 ? 11.43.21 Join Nico_P [0] (i=Nicolas@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 11.43.31 # (2) It will allow to localise plugins. That's not included in the first step of transition though 11.43.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.44.00 # (1) also applies to voice files, where the savings are considerably higher 11.44.13 # as long as it fixes the "press play for yes" problem on the h300 im happy :D 11.44.19 # It will 11.44.29 # There'll be a generic LANG_ACCEPT 11.44.51 # ..which will be set to PLAY for archos recorders, RIGHT for Ondios, NAVI for H300 etc 11.45.18 # That's why we want langv2 in 3.0 11.45.55 # thats notthe only problem... it will let u have different strings for different targets using the same string id ye? 11.46.35 # yep 11.46.47 # ok :) u just confused me a bit there... 11.46.57 # My (1) didn't cover everything. 11.47.15 # anyway, ill have a patch for the playlist control plugin lib tomorow probably.. 11.47.15 # It actually means you can have different strings per target for the same id 11.47.28 # ...which of course includes empty strings 11.47.57 # This'll also help the player, and get rid of the extra _PLAYER ids 11.48.10 # The player needs extremely short strings in some places 11.48.14 # JdGordon, do you think a backlight control would be useful in the plugin lib as well? 11.48.22 # *don't you 11.48.31 # tucoz: u mean the backlight timeout? 11.48.38 # JdGordon, yes 11.48.57 # Or maybe disable the timeout from a plugin 11.49.06 # hmm.. maybe... 11.49.24 # Like when using the text-viewer, or playing chess in the dark 11.49.29 # or, perhaps a better way would be to disable the timeout from a global setting in the core? 11.50.20 # like, but that wouldn't always be needed. On players where it is possible to read the screen without backlight. 11.50.38 # then they wouldnt set the option to disable it in plugins.. 11.51.19 # gtg 11.51.22 # ok 11.51.57 # Some plugins already disable the timeout 11.52.36 # i'm going to set up a new build environment and i wanted to know : is vmware faster then colinux ? 11.52.45 # than 11.53.07 # I think that should be controlled by the user from the plugin. On the h1xx it is not usefull to disable the timeout it is light in the room. 11.53.15 # s/usefull/needed 11.53.17 # i'd say colinux would be faster than vmware 11.53.26 # it shouldnt' be doign the whole virtual hardware bit 11.54.04 # and it doesn't have the boot time, so basically it's better ? 11.54.45 # AFAIK the clock plugin already does backlight control. 11.54.52 # You might want to have a look at that. 11.55.14 # Well, if colinux uses a file to simulate a hd for the linux environment, I'd expect it to run at the same speed as vmware 11.55.46 # If, however, colinux accesses the windows filesystem, it will be way slower 11.56.18 # Same thing happens if you're using the vmware shared folder feature to access the windows fs, or using interix 11.56.45 # I'm almost sure the cygwin slowness is caused by the windows filesystem as well 11.57.19 # Cassandra, I just wanted to know if others would find that a useful addition to 'standard' plugin menu 11.57.22 # Cassandra: clock.rock, video.rock, oscilloscope.rock and probably others override the backlight timeout 11.57.29 # And everyone claimed NTFS was so wonderful. 11.57.49 # Cassandra: It's not NTFS. Same thing happens on FAT32 11.58.09 # ...and I guess it's not the filesystem itself 11.58.43 # I don't think that should be up to the plugin, I think such a menu (playback, backlight) should be available from within all plugins 11.59.39 # Not all plugins need/can have all items 11.59.48 # This might get messy... 11.59.56 # amiconn, right. hmm, that is true. 12.00.12 # amiconn, so the low level IDE drivers just suck? Or is it an architectural problem? 12.00.38 # I suspect there's some strange overhead in opening/closing files 12.00.46 # ...in windows 12.00.48 # Also, what key combo would you bind it to? 12.01.11 # Windows does seem to thrash disk a hell of a lot more than Linux. 12.01.21 # Since, if you're using vmware, the virtual disk is (usually) a file on a windows partition, but it isn't slow at all 12.01.22 # I'd always assumed it was a virus scanner thing. 12.01.36 # Probably because it's *one* file that is opened all the time 12.02.18 # Well, cygwin is slow even with no virus scanner installed, so that can't be the (only) culprit 12.02.40 # I suppose it's possible Vista won't suck as much. 12.02.54 # But given what people in MS seem to be saying about it, it doesn't seem likely. 12.02.57 # what would you recommend me between vmware and colinux ? 12.03.20 # colinux, it being free and all 12.03.35 # I would prefer vmware, since then you can use a linux distro of your choice 12.03.40 # (unless someone's distributing a vmware image that can be used with the player) 12.04.00 # ashridah: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VMwareDevelopmentPlatform 12.04.05 # amiconn: colinux works with any distro, although they'll require some modifications 12.04.07 # amiconn: gotchya 12.04.16 # * ashridah hasn't been keeping up with the ml 12.04.30 # ashridah: You mean like http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VMwareDevelopmentPlatform 12.05.03 # i'd use colinux if only to avoid the complete emulation of the PC platform 12.05.07 # colinux cheats a good deal 12.05.22 # something is definitely up with playback at the moment 12.05.42 # play a track and skip back and the wps says "Paused" but the system has locked up 12.05.49 # but vmware'd be easier to setup, i daresay 12.05.49 # You mean something more than usual? swcodec's never really worked right. 12.06.47 # Cassandra, well it's been reasonably reliable until recently (i.e. past 48 hours) 12.07.04 # hrm, simulator playback still works okay with the same test 12.07.11 # Speak to lostlogic. I think he's been hacking at it. 12.07.27 # yup 12.08.00 # For me, swcodec was stable only as long as I just let it play 12.10.01 # I40:PDIR1FULL 12.10.05 # at 00000001 12.10.09 # safetydan, there is a report on the dev-ml as well 12.10.11 # that doesn't look useful 12.10.17 # tucoz, yeah, just trying to reproduce it 12.10.17 # from gl :) 12.10.22 # I see. 12.10.53 # I suspect it's the signedness fixes that went in recently 12.11.34 # Have you experienced the usb problem as well? 12.12.17 # I don't think I have, but I think the player is usually not playing when I connect it to usb 12.12.19 # tucoz, what usb problem? 12.12.27 # there is a bugreport 12.12.40 # The os doesn't notice the player 12.12.43 Quit Rondom ("I'm leaving on a jetplane, don't know when I'll be back again...") 12.14.00 # tucoz, seems to work okay here when I connect the USB cable while something's playing 12.14.37 # Maybe it's just XP then 12.15.44 # I can't see how since USB is hardware controlled 12.16.32 # gtg, see you 12.16.35 Part tucoz ("Leaving") 12.16.39 # safetydan: just it incredibly boring for some reason 12.16.50 # we need glade for rockbox 12.16.50 # heh 12.17.31 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@88.134.20.76) 12.18.52 # rarrr... I don't even know where to begin debugging this playback issue 12.19.45 # safetydan: playback.c :p 12.20.08 # maybe better to ask lostlogic? 12.20.09 # ha 12.20.23 # webguest84, probably, but I might as well have a go as well 12.20.42 # and i suggest you look around where lostlogic made some changes recently 12.20.44 # Hrmm... "processor data in 1 full"... what does that even mean? 12.22.22 Join Lost-ash [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-121-242.VIC.netspace.net.au) 12.26.43 Quit ashridah (Nick collision from services.) 12.26.44 Nick Lost-ash is now known as ashridah (i=ashridah@220-253-121-242.VIC.netspace.net.au) 12.32.42 # shower sounds nice 12.32.45 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 12.35.09 # i was confused by the sleep timer setting, it only says 00:15 or such, i wasn't sure if it was minutes:seconds or hours:minutes 12.35.20 # Mikachu, yeah it's hours:minutes 12.35.26 Join Bger [0] (n=Bager@217.9.226.114) 12.36.02 # hm, looks like someone was i bit tired when they wrote this code too, minutes = value - (hours * 60); 12.36.16 # wouldn't that be the same as minutes = value % 60; ? 12.36.58 # should be, I was just cutting and pasting from the old sleep timer code 12.41.05 # Mikachu: Yes, but the % is slower 12.41.18 # (not that it matters when only used in settings and stuff) 12.41.20 # i always thought % was pretty fast 12.41.36 # % and / both require division 12.42.09 # hrmm... nothing's leaping out at me as a bug in the recent changes to playback... unless there's a -1 still in there and the buffer pointer is wrapping 12.42.10 # (unless % is used with a power-of-2-constant) 12.42.17 # right, this is a special case since we already did a divide for hours 12.42.31 # * safetydan summons lostlogic 12.43.44 # amiconn: mno, it's a separate operation on coldfire 12.43.52 # amiconn: unless you're doing 16 bit division 12.44.01 # in which case you get the mod for free 12.44.01 # Yes, but it's essentially a division operation 12.44.05 # yeah, sure 12.44.08 # slow as hell 12.44.19 # ...and what about arm? ;) 12.44.22 # haha 12.44.24 # poor little arm 12.44.26 # no divider 12.44.41 # i bet the 64 bit divides i do are _really_ fast on arm 12.44.49 # amiconn: go code me a 64 bit divide in asm! 12.45.08 # urgs 12.45.27 # preglow, since we have high-precision sin() now, where's my eq graph? :) 12.47.37 Join Febs [0] (n=medifebb@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 12.48.46 # safetydan: i discovered the high precision sin isn't all i need 12.48.59 # safetydan: basically, 32 bit divides aren't high precision enough for me 12.49.05 # i mean 64 bit 12.49.09 # but i think i've got a solution 12.49.33 Join Mmmm [0] (n=mscarrat@cpc5-hem13-0-0-cust543.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 12.49.35 # i can just shift either the dividend or divisor a bit up, depending on who of them is really small 12.49.46 # i never promised the eq grapher would be fast anyway :-) 12.50.35 # but i'm quite bogged with real work now 12.50.36 # so it'll have to wait 12.51.05 # cool, it's not like it's on the release plan :) 12.51.37 # i've learnt qutie a bit about fixed point from doing the eq and related stuff, but i'm still not clear on a number of things 12.51.41 # quite too 12.52.10 Join dpro [0] (n=x@chello080109121047.8.15.vie.surfer.at) 12.52.20 # it's been a learning experience all round... I was only really intending to work on gui stuff :) 12.52.36 # heh 12.52.39 Quit Moos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.52.42 # learning stuff is fun (and good) anyway 12.52.45 # so it's all good 12.53.28 # preglow: here's a funny plugin for you 12.53.41 # http://mikachu.ath.cx/beeper.c 12.53.47 # wrote in less than 2 minutes :) 12.54.00 # hahah 12.54.11 # oh right, you would need the absolute patch applied too 12.54.25 # it'll beep with a freq decided by the wheel? :PPP 12.54.28 # piezo synth 12.54.29 # haha 12.54.30 # yes 12.54.34 # i just played a little tune 12.54.38 # ahahah 12.54.38 # i love that 12.54.40 # ipod theremin 12.55.07 # why is the screen green when i don't do anything to it? 12.57.34 # shruggety shrug shrug 12.58.55 # not exactly a linear scale of notes 12.59.57 # that can be fixed quite easily 13.00.08 # the period doubles for each octave 13.00.20 # or halves, if you count them upwards :> 13.00.40 # nice little opportunity for some fixed point magic, this! 13.01.36 # hehe 13.02.03 # :) 13.02.22 # 8.17579891564 * exp(.0577622650 * n) // n is midi notenr ... 13.02.46 # heh 13.02.53 # that'll work if i just copy it 13.03.02 # I guess 13.04.09 # i can just have a table, it's only 96 values 13.04.26 # but you probably don't want to go up a halftone every value :) 13.05.41 Join lodesi [0] (n=moi@l05m-194-158-117-91.d4.club-internet.fr) 13.05.42 # actually that would even be a nice idea for the blind/usability stuff discussed here last night - why not have a c major scale when scrolling through menus ... 13.06.38 # so 'sound settings' would always be an E for example? i think taht might be good too 13.06.57 # yeah sth. like that 13.07.25 # oops 13.07.29 # i forgot yield() :P 13.07.36 # hehe 13.07.47 # can't expect perfection on the first compile 13.07.52 # wow, that'd probably be pretty nice 13.08.35 # so "first element in menu is c, next is a d, etc" 13.09.01 # webguest84: yup that's what I was thinking .. 13.09.38 # and it's trivial enough to just implement and add a little en/disable switch to the settings 13.10.24 # might even be possible to implement for with the beep function in case you lose your voice file 13.11.51 # * preglow hater matrix inversion 13.11.58 # hates, even 13.12.10 # most funnest thing ever 13.12.16 # * Mikachu has a course in Matrix Theory now 13.15.54 # preglow: i'm having no luck with rb->backlight_set_timeout(0); 13.15.58 # it stays on anyway 13.16.54 # 0 would be always off 13.16.59 # 1 would be always on 13.17.04 # that's what i wolud think, but it doesn't work 13.17.10 # the parameter is an index, not a direct value 13.17.19 # Does it work if you set it in the settings? 13.17.25 # no 13.17.31 # Off and On both make it permanently on 13.17.37 # Always off is broken on iPod afaik 13.17.47 # Dunno why 13.17.50 # ah 13.18.07 # Strange bug 13.19.05 # i'll use 1 second then 13.19.19 # ahh, right 13.19.47 Quit Nico_P () 13.19.49 # how do i set it always on? 13.20.05 # right 13.20.06 # found it 13.20.12 # backlight_set_timeout(1) is always on 13.20.13 # always on seems to work 13.20.16 # always off doesn't... 13.20.18 # 0 should be off but it is also always on 13.21.36 # wow 13.21.43 # it beeps before i even touch the wheel sometimes 13.23.26 # hm, got the instashutoff thing again 13.24.18 # with your plugin, i hope? 13.24.27 # yes 13.24.32 # yeah, sure 13.24.32 # but i also got it with pacman two times 13.24.39 # you can use the wheel without touching it 13.24.50 # oh you meant the beep 13.24.53 # how does that work? 13.25.02 # it's just a capacitance detector 13.25.10 # ah right 13.26.24 # Hmm. My first attempt of dma playback + simple buffering system for archos pcm actually works. 13.26.48 # There one problem though, I get some bursts of static occasionally... 13.27.57 # this is way better than electroplankton 13.28.50 # amiconn: this is a 3.1 feature, right? 13.29.20 # Integration of pcm is a 3.1 feature 13.29.31 # yeaps 13.29.41 # with the dreaded playback engine unification? :> 13.31.24 # I don't see how to manage pcm integration without it 13.32.50 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@c-24-16-191-240.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 13.33.22 Quit midkay (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.33.26 Join ^BeN^ [0] (i=Paprica@85-250-104-69.bb.netvision.net.il) 13.36.26 Quit Paprica (Nick collision from services.) 13.36.26 Nick ^BeN^ is now known as Paprica (i=Paprica@rockbox/developer/paprica) 13.36.27 Quit webguest84 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 13.36.27 Quit Huntermic ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 13.37.40 # Remote support is a 3.0 feature right? 13.38.00 # I have a patch to increase remote support....anyone interested? 13.38.58 # If noone here, who would be the person to talk to? 13.39.13 # put it in the tracker 13.39.20 # it's there.. 13.39.39 # I've just got to get it noticed! :D 13.40.24 # might help if you mention the task number 13.40.42 Join qwm_ [0] (n=qwm@h147n2fls32o1010.telia.com) 13.40.50 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4818 13.41.51 Join Nico [0] (i=Nicolas@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 13.42.13 # amiconn: i'm sure you can think of a hack 13.42.40 # I don't think so 13.43.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.44.19 # so, you'll be going the full route with codec plugins and all? 13.44.39 # .... ! 13.44.48 # libvf.c:24: error: 'NULL' undeclared (first use in this function) 13.44.48 # you what?! 13.44.49 # Probably not codec plugins 13.45.36 # oh. wait. haven't #included anything 13.45.42 # you shouldnt 13.45.46 # Mmmm, you're making a lot of changs in one patch. It might be better to split them up or at least explain all the things that have been changed. 13.45.50 # you shouldnt need to include for NULL ? 13.45.52 # Wow! This thing plays realtime on Ondio :-) 13.46.08 # amiconn: can you still navigate? :> 13.46.17 # It's a plugin.... 13.46.35 # safetydan: I've included as little as possible! :) it's all essential to work! 13.46.47 # I still have to find the static-burst problem 13.46.58 # Mmmm, at the very least you can do the remote peak meter support in a seperate patch 13.47.56 # But the good thing is that 2 serial DMA transfers in parallel are fast enough for realtime 44.1kHz stereo, even with the double bitswap 13.48.07 # safetydan: you cant because peakmeter has to be called differently (it needs the screen struct to be passed into it) so the remote automatically gets supported! 13.48.08 # amiconn: you need to swap bits as well??? 13.48.25 # amiconn: this small a codec, and they didn't manage to put in selectable bit swapping? 13.48.45 # Well, micronas is not the one to blame 13.48.53 # The designer of the SH1 SCI is 13.49.19 # Safetydan:supporting the recording screen without the peakmeter would be a bit pointless dont you think? 13.50.11 # Mmmm, I was just thinking that the peak meter support for the rwps can be done as a seperate patch. You can then make the remote support for the recording screen depend on that patch. 13.50.31 # Mmmm, I also take it that your remote doesn't have the ticking issue? :) 13.51.07 Quit qwm (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.52.47 # * ashridah sighs and watches 33MB of tetex-* download 13.52.53 # safetydan: Remote support of the peakmeter has to enable ALL remote support for it not just for one screen...if it did I think it wouldn't be the right way to go about it. So when entering the recording screen you would get the peakmeter and nothing else! 13.52.59 # yep, gotta love latex 13.53.10 # well 13.53.11 # sometimes 13.53.27 # * ashridah watches as his modem chafes 13.53.37 # safetydan: the ticking fix fixes my ticking! 13.53.38 # modem? :> 13.53.41 # this is the last time i dress up as the damn gimp 13.54.38 # safetydan: Just having the peakmeter and nothing else on the remote recording screen would be a bit mad so I went the whole hog! :) 14.01.19 # Mmmm, shouldn't "record" be mapped to the record button on the remote? 14.02.40 # safetydan: Hehheh....It certainly should! hmmm I wonder what happened there....? :D 14.03.49 # otherwise it looks good 14.03.58 # haven't extensively tested it though 14.04.18 # have you test built on any other targets? 14.04.47 # Safetydan...it's being tested on the forums...been out there for a while...no complaints yet! Ive built on all targets, no probs 14.05.26 # cool 14.05.32 # I'll just do some more checking then 14.05.45 # great...thanks safetydan :) 14.07.35 # r 14.07.42 # heu.. sorry 14.07.55 # safetydan: I remember now, I mapped the recording button to play on the remote just because it is a nicer button... :) 14.08.04 # that sort of makes sense 14.08.38 # for consistency I might change it back to record 14.08.49 # ok, no probs... 14.13.44 Join whatboutbob [0] (n=cbd67639@labb.contactor.se) 14.14.37 # good evening folks. 14.14.59 Quit KN|stiff (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.16.41 # err...afternoon here cobber! :D 14.16.47 # safetydan: i completely understand why you'd change the remote recording trigger button to the record button for consistency, but from a usability perspective i, for one, find the play button handy. 14.17.12 # hehe...well...its technically morning here...so i guess i'm just wrong all around... 14.18.47 # whatboutbob, well... yeah it's not a nice button... 14.19.32 # I'm not sure really. Consistency is good, but usability is also good... hrmm 14.19.55 # whatboutbob has been chief tester on this patch...if there are any probs with it he knows about them! :D 14.20.14 # maybe I'll leave it as remote play then 14.20.20 # :) 14.20.59 # safetydan what's the problem with the "record" ? 14.21.10 # Bg3r, on the h100 lcd remote it's a bit... fiddly 14.21.28 # the play button is nice and large and only has one function 14.21.38 # whereas the record button can be slide left, right and pressed in 14.21.38 # Bger: fddly uncomfortable, small plasticky...you name it! 14.21.47 # uf :( 14.21.51 # i realise the 'play' button might not make much sense to trigger recording, but its hard to mis-press it..whereas the rec button on the h1x0 remote is fiddly... 14.21.55 # the remote problems again .. 14.22.39 # ...and i can't think of any other use for the play button on that screen.... 14.25.45 Quit whatboutbob ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 14.26.06 Join whatboutbob [0] (n=cbd67639@labb.contactor.se) 14.29.09 # Static noise problem nailed :) PCM now playing like a charm on archos, both recorder & Ondio 14.29.46 # Playback code is something to likely cause headaches :/ 14.31.31 Join webguest74 [0] (n=3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) 14.31.42 # congrats amiconn! 14.31.59 # let's hope lostlogic gives it a firm refurbishing 14.32.14 # any chance pcm will be included in 3.0 as a viewer plugin? 14.32.34 # preglow: I mean all playback code, even the simplistic engine I adapted for my plugin 14.32.56 # This plugin will receive some more polishing. 14.33.01 # - Ability to stop playback before the .WAV ends 14.33.06 # yeah, i can imagine 14.33.18 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 14.33.19 # i like my small low-level code snippets the best :> 14.33.22 # - Restore the MAS' state so the plugin doesn't break mp3 playback 14.33.59 # - Read parameters from WAV file to allow playback of all 16 bit uncompressed files 14.34.08 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 14.34.09 # Then I'll probably commit it to cvs 14.34.15 Quit midkay_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.34.48 # So that means WAV playback will likely be included as a viewer in 3.0 14.35.21 # rocking 14.35.45 # whatboutbob, Mmmm, it's comitted now 14.35.53 # Wooohoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo............ 14.35.56 # you do overwrite the mp3 codec when uploading the wav one, yes? 14.36.23 # thanks safetydan.....there are millions of happy recorders out there now im sure! :D 14.37.32 # preglow: In case you want to know: I advanced the read pointer too early, which lead to the rebuffer routine overwriting the currently playing ram area 14.38.04 # Since I first read, then bitswap, the filled-in data was often played unswapped - ouch 14.38.04 # Mmmm, hey you did all the work :) 14.38.47 # ;D But it's great to be appreciated :D 14.39.25 # preglow: I'm not overwriting the mp3 codec, that's not possible since it's in ROM 14.40.12 # Thanks safetydan. Congrats Mmmm! :) 14.40.16 # But for switching back, I have to stop the DSP core, switch the relevant RAM area back to data RAM, then restart the DSP core 14.40.39 # I hope the DSP_RESET bit in the appropriate config register will do the trick 14.40.40 Quit webguest74 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 14.41.16 # are these MASes still sold ? 14.41.19 # maybe 14.41.24 # heh 14.41.31 # amiconn: right 14.41.39 # Whatboutbob, Safetydan: Party time...beers are on me! :D 14.41.46 # why they just don't open the docs about them... 14.41.55 # I can hard-reset the whole mas, but that generates a pop 14.42.49 # hrmm... the build page says 8 warnings for the iAudio X5 bootloader, but I only see 4 in the log 14.42.54 # Disk spinup every 10 seconds... 14.45.04 # anyone aware whether there is a non-lcd remote for iAudios too ? 14.45.20 # more precisely for X5 14.45.57 # no there isnt one 14.46.23 # k 14.46.39 # you mean such a remote as for the ipod? 14.47.04 # just play / pause / skip forward / backward? 14.47.26 # something without a screen, in fact without a backlight on the remote :) 14.47.44 # afaik i never saw something like this for the x5 ;) 14.48.06 # anyone know how far the audio driver for the x5 is? 14.48.27 Quit Nico () 14.48.45 # PhR3aK, nothing's been mentioned lately 14.49.03 # PhR3aK afaik linus played something on his x5 2-3 days ago ... 14.49.30 # really? 14.49.38 # wow! 14.49.50 # amiconn: now i got the tag sortin working :) still other bugs to be fixed.. 14.49.50 # it was something by cranberies iirc ..:P 14.49.50 # Bg3r: played something? or wrote the bootloader? usually playback results in a Gentlemen email 14.50.12 # yeah... like the ipod massage, right? 14.50.14 # ashridah i think he mentioned it here ... 14.50.44 # oh, the painful end of tradtion 14.50.57 # hah:P 14.51.13 # Zagor, Bagder ... what about a "search" for the irc logs .... 14.51.44 # * ashridah knows someone with an M3 who's been interested in the progress on the iaudio, but naturally disconcerted by the lack of action on the older m3 model front 14.52.14 # Bg3r, google can do it for you 14.52.18 # ashridah aren't the m3s very similar hardware-wise ? 14.52.24 # safetydan not for the last 2-3 days .. 14.52.27 # true 14.52.28 # Bg3r: so i've heard 14.52.40 # but i expect the usual differences, LCD, some hardware bits, etc. 14.52.56 # yeo 14.52.58 # yep 14.53.27 # so what? is there audio playback for the x5? 14.54.25 # PhR3aK: i don't think anything's been checked in, and even if the playback by linus happened, it was probably just piping a raw chunk of pcm to the audio 14.54.45 # ok... i thougt ive missed something... 14.55.32 # so there will be a message like with the ipod? 14.55.45 # if its done? 14.56.07 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m20.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 14.56.07 # i'd say so 14.56.36 # those kinds of things are usually significant 14.56.36 # ok... 14.58.51 # Bg3r: I have a local copy of the irc logs which I update from time to time 14.58.51 # Very convenient for searching 14.58.51 # is it just me, or is rockbox.org a little slow at the moment? 15.02.51 Quit whatboutbob ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 15.02.51 # PhR3aK i think i've dreamt something about the sound on iaudio... 15.02.51 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 15.02.51 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp2-adsl-1.ath.forthnet.gr) 15.02.51 # ok... ^^ 15.02.51 # PhR3aK sorry :( 15.03.02 # no problem... 15.03.40 # i thougt im the one who has to be sorry because i ask almost everyday for audioplayback on the x5 ^^ 15.03.57 Join DrMoos [0] (i=DrMoos@m20.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 15.07.05 Quit Moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.07.05 Nick DrMoos is now known as Moos (i=DrMoos@m20.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 15.07.05 # because when this is done i will 100% swich to rockbox because i dont need video playback etc., the cown fw is just crap... 15.07.05 Nick qwm_ is now known as qwm (n=qwm@h147n2fls32o1010.telia.com) 15.07.05 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.07.05 Join webguest21 [0] (n=3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) 15.07.17 Quit tkprojects (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.08.44 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 15.11.51 # how does Rockbox read replaygain info from id3v2? Using TXXX (as foobar writes them) or RVA2 (as the spec says, and eg. Quod Libet writes them)? 15.15.12 # webguest21, txxx by the look of things 15.16.25 # For shame 15.17.28 # Damn foobar being a bad influence 15.18.05 # rva2 only came in in id3 2.4 15.19.04 # isn't there a patch about that? 15.19.12 # possibly, I'm about to go looking 15.19.25 # i think i have it watched 15.19.27 # there's actually two patches 15.19.51 # ah no, it was the arbitrary comment patch i had watched 15.20.08 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/1943 15.20.12 # hrmm... I think I can ignore the one from 2004 15.20.19 # that's that one 15.20.28 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/2937 is what I'm looking at 15.21.35 # Doesn't foobar use id3v2.4?! 15.21.58 # a lot of things don't use 2.4, especially not on linux 15.23.32 # hmm, in fact tagcache will be commit ready soon :) 15.23.32 # \o/ woo! 15.23.32 # Hooray ! 15.24.39 Quit webguest21 ("CGI:IRC") 15.24.42 Join webguest21 [0] (n=3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) 15.24.56 # Slasheri: Just let someone test on archos & iPod, in case there are alignment issues 15.25.39 # amiconn: well, sure. anyway, the first version wont be perfect ;) 15.26.00 # Surely not, but it shouldn't cause nasty crashes at least 15.26.16 # Jesus Christ, people having support for 2.3 and not 2.4 have been on vacation for 5 years after implementing 2.3 in 18 months... or something.. slackers, the lot of them. 15.26.49 # (2.4 was published only 18 months after 2.3, and that's over 5 years ago now) 15.28.22 # webguest21, steady on :) Opensource moves slowly sometimes. 15.28.33 # anyway, I'm looking at a patch which should add RVA2 support to Rockbox 15.29.43 # I guess it's just that people use the obsolete id3lib 15.29.54 # Should be using taglib or something else non-broken 15.30.54 # nice Slasheri looking forward to it. 15.32.20 Quit c0utta (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.33.12 # XavierGr: i will commit it soon after i just clean the code a bit 15.33.37 # and actually implement the chunked browsing as we now have sorting :) 15.34.45 # Slasheri: we are all unpatiently waiting :-) 15.35.33 # scanning the 1st time must take ages? 15.35.46 # Slasheri what does "chunked browsing" mean? 15.36.25 # muesli__: it takes something like 10 minutes in background (player can be rebooted anytime etc.) 15.38.38 # Bger: tagcache provides already sorted file list for the dir browser 15.38.38 # Mikachu, the replaygain patch you're watching (task 1943) is specific to MAS (archos) units 15.38.38 # wont use it anyway but nice to have it ;) 15.38.38 # hey faster than the previous version and that was via PC 15.38.38 # so browser doesn't need to load everything in ram for sorting if we are lacking enough ram 15.38.38 # safetydan: okay, i've unwatched it and watched the one you found instead 15.38.38 Quit Mmmm ("Byeee") 15.38.38 # hrmm... the target thingy in flyspray might need a "hwcodec" and "swcodec" target 15.38.38 # What happens if you try to view the db during that time? 15.39.42 # webguest21: if there is old db on the disk, that is displayed 15.43.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.45.33 # if not, then nothing happens 15.45.33 # Ah excellent. 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(Connection timed out)) 16.21.36 # am i the only one experiencing slowness on the website ? 16.23.10 # Bg3r arround? 16.24.25 # muesli__ yep 16.24.25 # my h340 just hung ... 16.24.25 # while doing next/prev song ... 16.24.25 Join DJ_Dooms_Day [0] (n=DJDD@220-245-184-47.static.tpgi.com.au) 16.24.25 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.stb.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 16.24.25 # had any progress in handling the evil h300 lcd remote? 16.24.25 # Nico_P: safetydan reported the same thing too 16.24.25 DBUG Enqueued KICK Bger 16.24.25 # muesli__ i have something that near works ... 16.24.25 # yeah :) 16.24.25 # but i doubt that it'll be included in the cvs 16.24.25 # ah.. seems to have become fast again 16.24.25 # whatever it is better than nothin than the current state 16.24.36 Join webguest76 [0] (n=3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) 16.25.02 # Bger, my h320 hungs too 16.25.09 # mine too 16.25.15 # it's a CVS prob 16.29.41 # i think 16.29.41 # yep 16.29.41 # i suspect lostlogic recent swcodec playback engine changes 16.29.41 # h3xx proble, ? :) 16.29.41 # k 16.29.41 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp88-adsl-186.ath.forthnet.gr) 16.29.41 Join Febs_ [0] (n=medifebb@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 16.29.41 # grrr this uisimulator stuff 16.29.41 # ? 16.29.41 # What's wrong with the ui simulator? 16.30.05 # safetydan nothing :) it's all that i must write to similar thing on 2 diff places: firmware/drivers/button.c and uisimulator/sdl/button.c 16.30.42 # ah... yeah... bit annoying that 16.30.59 # though now that there's only one supported sim maybe that could change 16.32.00 Join rmrmg [0] (n=rmrmg@xdsl-2613.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl) 16.32.04 # does anyone encounters lockups with latest buidlds? 16.32.17 # hello 16.32.21 # I get many crashes lately, both on H100 and H300 16.32.43 # does rockbox support cyrillic UTF file name? 16.32.51 # XavierGr, yeah me too on a h120 16.32.51 # should work 16.32.59 # 16.24.25 # my h340 just hung ... 16.33.00 # safetydan, mostly while seeking 16.33.05 # i have problem w/ it 16.33.12 # 16.25.02 # Bger, my h320 hungs too 16.33.23 # rmrmg: try selecting unifont or 6+12x13 as the font 16.33.31 # safetydan: Yes. It must be latest changes by lostlogic in playback.c 16.34.08 # Mikachu: but cyrillic UTF tag are ok 16.41.49 # rmrmg: are you using linux or windows? 16.41.49 # linux 16.41.49 # you have to mount the fat partition with -o utf8 16.41.49 # then it should work fine 16.41.49 # ok, i ckech it 16.41.49 # http://illhostit.com/files/7702838042866319/Pic%20(1).jpg 16.41.49 # haha XavierGr :) 16.41.49 # :D 16.41.49 # selling one LCD ? :P 16.41.49 # Mikachu: thx!! now it's work 16.41.49 DBUG Enqueued KICK Mikachu 16.41.49 # rmrmg: you're welcome 16.41.49 # Guess what? All remotes I tested with the H100 tick. Finally I can be assured that it is a unit defect. 16.41.49 DBUG Enqueued KICK rmrmg 16.41.49 # you sholud add this info to UTF howto file 16.41.49 # i'll add a note in IpodInstallitionFromLinux 16.41.49 # Ipod? 16.41.49 # Mikachu this isn't iPod specific ... 16.41.49 *** Alert Mode level 1 16.41.49 # i have H300 16.41.49 *** Alert Mode level 2 16.41.49 # ah heh 16.41.49 *** Alert Mode level 3 16.41.49 # i'll add a note there anyway 16.41.49 *** Alert Mode level 4 16.41.49 # since it has some details about mounting already 16.41.49 # btw, what about including cyrillic & greek in the default font ?... 16.41.49 DBUG Enqueued KICK XavierGr 16.41.49 # is there a way to mod nimbus 14 to be unifont? 16.41.49 # or find a font that looks like it and is unifont? 16.41.49 # XavierGr or u add the uni glyphs on your own to it 16.41.49 *** Alert Mode level 5 16.41.49 # do you know any linux program to convert ogg and mp3 tag from cp1251 to utf? 16.41.49 *** Alert Mode level 6 16.41.49 DBUG Enqueued KICK Bg3r 16.41.49 # rmrmg ah, this is interesting for me too 16.41.59 # easytag has options for which encoding to use, but it's a bit tricky to get it to actually convert something existing 16.44.53 # haha any chances for the iriver sim to have different remotes in the future ? 16.45.39 # Some enterprising individual could probably cook up a generic linux script using the recode utility 16.46.19 Quit Nico_P () 16.46.22 # Bger: easytag can do it 16.46.30 # rmrmg ah, 10x 16.48.38 # use non-standard charset for reading tags ? 16.51.50 *** Alert Mode OFF 16.52.44 # preferences -> convert charset set from to 16.52.44 # he changed something in recent versions, i didn't get it working with those 16.52.44 Quit DJ_Dooms_Day ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 16.52.44 # but .8 works fine at least 16.52.44 # note that it only writes v2.3 tags 16.54.44 Quit webguest76 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 16.54.44 Join webguest76 [0] (n=3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) 16.55.41 Quit tucoz ("Leaving") 16.58.35 # nope, it's not work 16.58.38 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A44DDE.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.58.57 # in easytag is okey but in other program no, 16.59.59 # like i said, it's tricky and i think 1.99.8 is the last where it works 17.00.47 # i have 1.99.5 17.01.23 # iirc, you need to first set the settings to 'convert from to utf-8' 17.01.31 # then open the dir with the files 17.01.36 # and then change the settings again 17.01.41 # then modify the tags someway, and then save them 17.01.56 # ie, change the settings to 'from utf-8 to utf-8' 17.02.54 # hmm strange 17.06.50 # so any news on the USB_OTG front from petur? 17.08.33 # XavierGr afaik, no:( 17.09.06 # petur (i=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) signed off 7 days and 16 hours ago 17.10.38 # wow 17.11.20 Quit Xerion (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.12.27 # wow TiMiD is here? 17.18.47 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@c-24-16-191-240.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 17.18.47 # since when? Long time no see man! 17.18.47 # How is Japan? 17.19.03 # re 17.19.17 # anyone tried rockbox on ipod minis ? 17.27.18 Quit fox010 ("Fantomas.") 17.27.18 # does rockbox.org has problems for you? 17.27.18 # as being slow ? 17.27.21 # XavierGr, seems to be slow for everyone 17.27.34 # works alright for me 17.27.38 # ah okay then. I just can't navigate at all. 17.27.59 # it's probably Bagder downloading warez:P 17.28.00 # now it is fine, strnage 17.28.06 # HAH 17.28.08 # A 17.31.41 Quit midkay (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.32.16 Quit XavierGr () 17.32.49 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 17.32.54 Quit midkay_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.33.21 Join qwm_ [0] (n=qwm@h147n2fls32o1010.telia.com) 17.43.39 Quit qwm (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.44.27 Quit DT291 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.44.27 Join DreamTactix291 [0] (n=DreamTac@adsl-149-149-180.bna.bellsouth.net) 17.50.45 Quit lodesi ("Leaving") 17.53.37 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.54.06 Quit midkay (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.54.06 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 17.54.22 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 18.00.50 Join bam_ [0] (n=bam@pool-71-108-99-77.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 18.04.01 Quit webguest76 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.10.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.18.31 Quit thegeek (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 18.28.24 Join stripwax [0] (n=stripwax@i-83-67-214-206.freedom2surf.net) 18.28.24 # lostlogic, you around? 18.28.24 # dan: yeah 18.28.29 # 'mi breakin' things? 18.28.35 # lostlogic: http://mikachu.ath.cx/beeper.c :) 18.28.37 # i was bored 18.29.02 Join diablogmp3 [0] (i=diablo_i@162.230.100-84.rev.gaoland.net) 18.30.54 # lostlogic, I can reproduce the seek to beginning of track issue with latest CVS on my h120 18.30.54 # hello 18.30.54 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 18.30.54 # i have a question about ipod port of rockbox 18.30.54 # safetydan: seek or skip? 18.30.54 # Mikachu: cool 18.30.54 # lostlogic, start playing, seek forward, then short tap back so the song starts again 18.30.54 # first song in the playlist 18.30.54 # Mikachu: i convert tag to utf but i have problem w/ last.fm look on http://www.last.fm/user/rmrmg/ 18.30.54 DBUG Enqueued KICK safetydan 18.30.54 # WPS says "Paused" and then the system hangs 18.30.54 # Mikachu: do you have any idea what is wrong? 18.30.54 # rmrmg: no idea there sorry 18.30.58 # ok 18.31.07 # safetydan: hmmmm, I'll take a look, thanks for the more info. 18.31.21 # lostlogic, if you turn on the memory access debugger you get a little more info 18.31.24 # but nothing useful 18.31.31 # I40:PDIR1FULL 18.31.36 # at 00000001 18.32.01 # well the wps saying paused is helpful... 18.32.27 Quit diablogmp3 (Client Quit) 18.34.07 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=jborn@adsl-75-3-22-48.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 18.36.42 Join diablogmp3 [0] (i=diablo_i@162.230.100-84.rev.gaoland.net) 18.36.42 # will the IR control of iPod via dock and remote be implemented on ipod ? 18.36.42 # diablogmp3: if someone decides to implement them, sure... 18.36.46 # ok thanks :) 18.37.51 # i asked it because i have a sound dock for my g4 and if the ir is implemented on rockbox, sure i'll install it on my ipod :) 18.38.45 # lostlogic, actually, after doing a clean rebuild from HEAD I can't reproduce the issue... 18.38.45 # Well, I don't know of anyone planning to implement it yet... 18.39.03 # safetydan: w00t! let me know if you do again -- I did do a pause fix this morning (no more separate paused variable, let pcm manage pause at a lower level) 18.39.42 # lostlogic, actually I just had it happen again :( 18.39.52 Quit diablogmp3 (Client Quit) 18.40.34 # bagh 18.43.03 # safetydan: does the disk LED go on when it freezes, or is there any correlation between disk led and freezes in this case? 18.43.24 # lostlogic, no disk led 18.44.03 # hrm... it crashed so bad it rebooted in to the iRiver firmware :) 18.44.12 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@c-24-16-191-240.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 18.44.40 # well the good news that it's iriver specific... and the bad news is that it's iriver specific 18.44.51 # so... what did I do differently in pcm_playback.c between the two 18.46.26 # it may be something to do with disk reading... 18.46.42 # it happens consistently if I make any seek backward or track skipping while the buffer is filling 18.47.28 # ok, thanks 18.49.48 # yeah it's definitely disk related 18.49.48 # simplest reproducable case I have is 18.49.48 # 1. Start track playing 18.49.55 # 2. Seek a little bit forward while the disk led is flashing 18.49.58 # 3. Short tap backwards 18.50.00 # bam 18.50.02 # lock up 18.50.28 Join DrMoos [0] (i=DrMoos@m20.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 18.50.30 # WPS will say "Paused", backlight goes on and stays on and system hangs 18.56.14 # quick question when upgrading cvs, what files do I need to copy to do so? 18.56.14 Quit Moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.56.14 # bam_: easiest to make zip and then just unzip the zip 18.56.14 Join _nicolas [0] (n=nicolas@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 18.56.14 Join carini [0] (n=daveroth@pool-71-112-6-30.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 18.56.14 Join qwm [0] (n=qwm@h147n2fls32o1010.telia.com) 18.56.14 Part _nicolas ("Konversation terminated!") 18.56.14 # poor lostlogic ... :) 18.56.14 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 18.56.14 # the stop=>play bug is still there... 18.56.52 # Bger: You took ownership of 4913? 18.57.16 # yep 18.57.26 # about to commit it with some more fixes 18.57.31 # Cool. 18.58.02 # How about the patch for the sim to generate remote keypresses? 18.58.17 Join auslaender [0] (n=a896fd37@labb.contactor.se) 18.58.44 # Hi there... 18.58.46 # its already commited 18.58.47 # afaik 18.59.37 # ok. i missed that commit. 19.02.35 # Is the website overloaded or is it just me? 19.02.35 # i have problems too 19.02.35 # yes me too 19.02.35 # where is the .bin file I need? I can't find it on the website... the FAQ/manual page only links to the regular download page 19.02.38 # the .bin file you need to do what? 19.03.15 # carini ops, i'm wrong 19.03.15 # about 4905 being committed? 19.03.16 Quit qwm_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.03.22 # yep, about this 19.03.34 # got a question about flashing to my Archos Recorder 20 19.03.56 # amiconn ? 19.03.56 # Bger: Think it could be committed? It was useful for testing the other patch. 19.04.21 # carini i made my own button_test.rock 19.04.21 Quit auslaender ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 19.04.47 Quit midkay (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.04.48 Join auslaender [0] (n=a896fd37@labb.contactor.se) 19.05.00 # but i'll look at it too 19.07.13 # so you load that in the sim and it generates remote buttons instead? 19.07.13 # ah, no, i'm testing it on the target 19.07.13 # Ah. 4905 was for the sim, so you could generate remote keypresses. 19.07.13 # yep 19.07.13 # But your rock for the target would be pretty useful to commit, too. 19.07.13 # looks like the site is having problems... please respond if you can read this 19.07.27 # Yeah, the site is having problems. 19.07.39 # carini i don't think the cvs is a place for testing sources ... 19.08.15 # Bger: Well, it is a rock, so it doesn't get in anyone's way. 19.08.29 Quit auslaender (Client Quit) 19.08.37 # Bger: But it's certainly your call. 19.12.03 # but otoh it's good somewhere to have such sources ... 19.12.03 # i've just installed kubuntu and i get an error message when trying to configure binutils 19.12.03 # configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables. 19.12.03 # yep. Especially if it helps prevent bugs that stop the remotes from working :-) 19.12.52 # ;) 19.14.13 # Nico_P: gcc --version ? as --version ? 19.14.24 # carini: so, these patches are yours/ 19.14.31 # safetydan: well this bug has 'forced' me to unify the shared code in pcm_playback.c so it's not an all bad thing... still haven't found the bug though. 19.14.35 # gcc (GCC) 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9) 19.16.58 # Yeah. 19.16.58 # Assembleur GNU 2.16.1 Debian GNU/Linux 19.16.58 Quit JoeBorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.16.58 # maybe i should use gcc 3.4 ? i have it installed but i don't know how to use that one instead of gcc 4.0... 19.16.58 # Bger: 4905 and 4913 19.17.05 Join nls [0] (n=51e680a9@labb.contactor.se) 19.17.32 Ctcp Ignored 6 channel CTCP requests in 2 hours and 6 minutes at the last flood 19.17.32 # * nls makes the "my firs commit dance" 19.17.38 # first 19.17.54 # nls :)) 19.20.12 Part stripwax 19.22.03 # is someone able to help me ? 19.22.03 # Nico_P with ? 19.22.03 # Assembleur GNU 2.16.1 Debian GNU/Linux 19.22.03 # sorry 19.22.03 DBUG Enqueued KICK Nico_P 19.22.03 # i've just installed kubuntu and i get an error message when trying to configure binutils 19.22.03 # configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables. 19.22.03 Nick DrMoos is now known as Moos (i=DrMoos@m20.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 19.22.03 # nls: Hi,checked my pm? 19.22.03 # Slasheri ? lostlogic ? 19.22.27 # let's hope I didn't break the manual 19.22.55 # hehe :) 19.23.30 # nls: do you registred at freenode? 19.24.48 # safetydan: want to test a patch? 19.26.04 # lostlogic i could try too 19.26.04 # Nico_P: Did you check config.log? 19.26.22 # no 19.26.23 # using the web client here (maybe I should get a real irc client) 19.26.23 # wich one is good for windows? 19.27.32 # X chat is good, or Hydra Irc 19.27.32 # blah, the playback still hung 19.27.32 # gah, CVS is doing that _thing_ 19.27.32 Join Kyomi [0] (n=a@24-196-196-108.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com) 19.27.32 # ok 19.27.32 # Paprica: my bug? 19.27.33 # yep 19.27.34 # =\ 19.27.41 # lostlogic the www.rockbox.org is doing _that_ thing .. 19.28.07 # cvs [diff aborted]: connect to www.rockbox.org(193.15.23.131):2401 failed: Connection timed out 19.30.57 # yes, lostlogic if its the stop->play bug 19.30.57 # Bger: it's pretty much a reversion of a previous commit for now until I fix more threading issues in playback. it appears on h1x0 only because that's the only target fast enough to trigger it (I think) http://lostlogicx.com/transfer/rockbox/revert_pcmbuf_locks.patch 19.30.57 # I fell back to the 23rd cvs 19.30.57 # it seems it's caused by a router loop 19.30.57 # no problem there 19.30.57 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 19.30.57 # * lostlogic beats zagor with a router 19.30.57 # or i'm wrong 19.30.57 # bam_: Paprica: try that patch? 19.30.57 # ok 19.30.57 # carini: where is config.log ? 19.30.57 # i'll try 19.30.57 # sorry i'm quite a linux noob 19.30.57 DBUG Enqueued KICK bam_ 19.30.57 # not sure how to use the patches yet... 19.30.57 # Nico_P should be in the same dir 19.30.57 # ah ok 19.30.57 # bam_: hehe, no worries, looks like i have plenty of testers in here ;) 19.30.57 # Nico_P: can you compile sth. like "main(){}" 19.30.57 # Nico_P: config.log should have the output from configure. You can see the exact error message it got when it tried to make an exexcutable. 19.31.48 # configure:1922: checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works 19.31.49 # configure:1938: gcc -o conftest conftest.c 1>&5 19.31.49 # /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory 19.31.49 *** Alert Mode level 1 19.31.49 # collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 19.31.49 *** Alert Mode level 2 19.31.49 # configure: failed program was: 19.32.12 # ah 19.32.27 # has anyone compiled multiple versions of the favorites plugin? 19.32.49 # like say to make another playlist by a different name? 19.33.17 # Nico_P: Try copying the failed program to a file and running "gcc -c conftest.c" 19.34.07 # apt-get install libc6-dev 19.34.09 # lostlogic trying in a minute 19.34.21 Join [1]nls [0] (n=nls@h169n1fls31o290.telia.com) 19.34.49 # ok then 19.34.52 Quit nls ("CGI:IRC") 19.34.52 Nick [1]nls is now known as nls (n=nls@h169n1fls31o290.telia.com) 19.35.21 # doesn't lock up for now .. 19.37.13 # nls: now register at freenode 19.37.13 Nick Spida_ is now known as Spida (i=Spida@p508A25DA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.37.13 # i created a c source file with "main(){}" and executed gcc -c on it and it worked 19.37.13 # ie it created an o file 19.37.13 # NicoP: try without -c 19.37.13 # nicolas@ubuntu:~$ gcc test.c 19.37.13 *** Alert Mode level 3 19.37.13 # /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: pas de fichier tel: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type 19.37.13 *** Alert Mode level 4 19.37.13 # collect2: ld a retourné 1 code d'état d'exécution 19.37.13 # Nico_P: won't work because you're missing crt1.o 19.37.13 # lostlogic, sure I can test a patch if you haven't got anyone else 19.37.13 *** Alert Mode level 5 19.37.13 # exactly 19.37.13 # lostlogic but it seems alogical for me to go in pause mode while "seeking' to the beginning of the track 19.37.13 # Nico_P: -c makes a lib, 19.37.13 DBUG Enqueued KICK dpro 19.37.13 # Nico_P: but you want an executable 19.37.31 # so what should i do ? 19.37.47 # Nico'_P: apt-get install libc6-dev 19.37.55 # yup 19.38.02 # Nico_P: IIRC it's in there 19.38.28 # lostlogic i can't freeze it for now ... 19.39.03 # Bger: it's a techincality of how the seeks are handled that it displays that, and it will probably change as I work on playback over coming weeks. 19.40.47 # yay now it works :D 19.40.47 # thanks 19.40.47 Quit nls (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.40.47 Quit bam_ ("Leaving") 19.40.47 # what's the current recommended gcc version for building on coldfire ? i don't really understand what's said in the crosscompiler wiki page 19.40.47 Join nls [0] (n=nls@h169n1fls31o290.telia.com) 19.40.54 # latest 3.x version 19.41.16 # 3.4.x or 3.x.x ? 19.41.17 # Nico_P 3.4.6 atm 19.41.28 # 3.4.6 is the last 3.x release 19.41.35 # ok thx 19.41.42 # but 3.4.4 works too for now 19.41.43 # (there will be no more) 19.41.45 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 19.41.57 # Mikachu sure ? 19.42.37 # at least about 3.4.x 19.42.41 # *giggle* so I commit the fix to that playback bug along with my next refactoring which will probably break something else, this sure is going to be a fun few weeks :) 19.42.41 # Branch status: GCC 3.4.6 is the last release from the 3.4 series; the branch has been closed after the release. 19.43.25 # lostlogic haha 19.44.25 # lostlogic, so long as it all works out in the end :) 19.44.28 # lostlogic: so what is your patch giong to fix about the payback system ? 19.44.32 # don't be too rude in this, otherwise your mom will be mentioned much ... 19.47.14 *** Alert Mode OFF 19.49.14 # (joke) 19.49.14 # maybe I'll need to look at simulator sound again 19.49.14 # dpro: read cvs commit comments or chat logs 19.49.14 # safetydan: so far I shouldn't have futzed with that at all. 19.49.14 # lostlogic, I wasn't saying you've changed it, just that I might need to look at it again since it's based on pcm_playback.c 19.49.14 Join mozetti [0] (n=mozetti@p54A8671F.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.50.11 # safetydan: gotcha 19.50.28 # safetydan: sorry 19.51.03 # no worries :) 19.51.19 # safetydan: what I've changed is how pause is treated so that pause state is remembered in the pcm_playback code, even if audio playback is stopped and started. This way there is no need for a separate paused variable in playback.c 19.52.27 # it gives a more practically applicable interface to the rest of the system from the pcm 19.55.35 # hi 19.55.35 Ctcp Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 6 minutes and 16 seconds at the last flood 19.55.35 # * Bger just saw the lostlogic's gallery from the devcon 19.55.35 # :) 19.55.35 # man, something effed up on the build system on that last commit 19.55.35 # only 6 servers responded and a bunch of builds weren't completed 19.55.35 # i think the problem is in the inet connection of the rockbox.org .. 19.55.46 # aye 19.57.11 # http://lostlogicx.com/cgi-perl/pics.pl?COMMAND=FILE&FILE=/images/pics/20060316-20_Rockbox_Devcon_2006_Sweden/p3190011.jpg&SIZE=800 <= what have you done here ? :) 19.58.26 # That's Linus' stuff :) 19.58.31 # yeah :) 19.58.32 # nice photos :) 19.59.51 # haha that's probably amiconn debugging the coldfire ata read stuff 20.00.12 Join qwm_ [0] (n=qwm@h147n2fls32o1010.telia.com) 20.00.20 # http://lostlogicx.com/cgi-perl/pics.pl?COMMAND=FILE&FILE=/images/pics/20060316-20_Rockbox_Devcon_2006_Sweden/p3190016.jpg&SIZE=800 20.00.45 Quit JazzBone ("Leaving") 20.01.32 # lostlogic: hmm, do you think it's really good idea to unify the pcm_playback.c? i think it might be better to just split it for different hardware 20.04.17 # Bger: I gotta go. Any thoughts about those patches? 20.04.17 # Slasheri: all of the fucntions except for pause that I unified were identical any way 20.04.17 # and pause has critical features which must be the same on all targets and which are not hardware specific 20.04.17 # so yes. 20.04.17 # carini i'll commit the target one 20.04.17 Join nave7693 [0] (i=evan@c-71-198-247-170.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 20.04.17 # yep, true. but it has also many functions which are not identical with other platforms so the code is full of ifdefs 20.04.17 # Bger: Cool. Is something wrong with the sim one? 20.04.17 Part nave7693 20.04.17 # nothing, just havent looked at it yet 20.04.34 # OK. Leave a comment in the patch if I need to fix something. Thanks! 20.04.34 # Slasheri: it would be reasonable to write the target specific code that is used in pause as static inlines in the larger target sections, or in a separate file, but the structure of the function should be shared. 20.04.51 # k 20.04.56 Part carini 20.07.17 # wtf ? i "don't have permission" to run "../tools/configure" 20.07.27 # Nico_P: chmod +x ../tools/configure 20.07.45 # :D 20.07.50 # i'm such a noob 20.10.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.10.37 Quit qwm (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.13.51 # ok another prob... :( 20.13.51 # gcc -g scramble.o iriver.o -o scramble 20.13.51 # scramble.o: file not recognized: File format not recognized 20.13.51 # collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 20.13.51 Join Sinbios [0] (n=Sinbios@Kingston-HSE-ppp3560730.sympatico.ca) 20.13.51 # bbs 20.18.40 # Nico_P, when you find the answer to that one, can you post a reply: http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=38624&page=9 20.18.53 # I've had the same thing myself 20.19.57 Quit safetydan ("Leaving") 20.21.38 # arf-arf: i tried to compile from files i had checked out from cygwin 20.21.38 # i just copied them 20.21.38 # apparently it's not a good idea 20.21.38 *** Alert Mode level 1 20.21.38 # i just checked the files out again 20.25.27 # how do i get sdl ? 20.25.48 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.28.51 # lostlogic i've got more builds than u :P 20.30.07 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=Steve-O@adsl-67-64-104-98.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 20.31.39 *** Alert Mode OFF 20.32.26 # Bger: :-P 20.32.26 # Nico_P: sdl .. ah for the emulator "apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev" 20.32.26 # Tell Brandon other tests he should take! hahaha 20.33.00 # oh dear, they're reading the website. 20.33.10 # it's broken still, isn't it? links on the left are all stupid? 20.33.12 # dpro: thanks 20.33.44 # lostlogic haha yes, but the statusbar is enough for me :P 20.36.12 Join ep0ch [0] (n=ep0ch@84-12-67-54.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk) 20.38.23 # lostlogic: hi, i've think i've just discovered a bug with playback (not related to your recent changes though) 20.39.09 # I dont know if this has been fixed yet.... but why when I push the >> button to go to the next song it takes like 4 seconds? 20.39.09 # And the song keeps playing 20.39.14 # ep0ch: tell me about it, hoepfully it's on the list of things that my various future refactorings will fix\ 20.39.14 # Shouldn't it be like...instant? 20.39.36 Join scott318 [0] (n=scott@host-24-225-242-180.patmedia.net) 20.39.41 # hi all 20.39.57 # Kyomi: that's roughly on the list of things likely to be fixed in my current efforts 20.41.27 # lostlogic: to summarize the first track in one my folders is called "Intro" and it is just 4 seconds long (about 57 kb), it doesnt get played, instead it jumps to the next track 20.41.27 # lostlogic: i'm sure it used to work a long time ago 20.41.27 # ep0ch: beats me why that would be, you sure it's a valid file of whatever format it is? 20.41.27 # hmph 20.41.27 # yeah am listening to it now on my laptop 20.41.27 DBUG Enqueued KICK ep0ch 20.41.27 # tried it on both ihp and video 20.41.27 # ep0ch: do the stock firmwares play it? 20.41.53 # lostlogic: its Vorbis, please please don't make me go into stock iriver firmware :s 20.42.06 # ep0ch: run an ogginfo -v on it 20.42.21 # 1 quick question (hope i'm not interrupting): i love rockbox on my ipod 5g, but is there a way to sort files by id3 tag info, not file name? 20.43.21 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp46-adsl-214.ath.forthnet.gr) 20.43.21 # (i don;t care boot the ipod db) 20.43.21 # lostlogic: any idea when you first commited the revised playback changes? 20.43.21 # scott318: there's the current tagdb and tagcache is being worked on 20.43.21 # ep0ch: I've been doing incremental changes for the past few days 20.43.21 # lostlogic: thanks! is there anything I can do to help, test, etc. 20.43.30 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 20.43.53 # scott318: talk to slasheri about the tagcache, but he might be frustrated by being asked about it as often as he is :) 20.44.14 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 20.44.22 # lostlogic: k i will lol 20.44.37 # lostlogic: i mean the first changes you made, when you took over from Slasheri :) 20.44.51 # oh, jeeze, not a clue 20.44.58 # hmm 20.45.04 Quit scott318 (Remote closed the connection) 20.46.12 # lunchtime, back later 20.51.40 # lostlogic: yeah stock f/w plays it on iriver 20.51.40 # ../tools/configure: line 1019: m68k-elf-gcc: command not found 20.51.40 # WARNING: The compiler you must use (m68k-elf-gcc) is not in your path! 20.51.40 # WARNING: this may cause your build to fail since we cannot do the 20.51.40 # WARNING: checks we want now. 20.51.40 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=jborn@adsl-75-3-6-104.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 20.51.40 # ep0ch: does it attempt to play it all (show its name? for how long?) or just skip right over it? 20.51.40 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 20.51.40 # it worked fine before... 20.51.40 # just skips it completely, i'm sure it worked with slasheri's playback code, so i'm trying to role back. enjoy your lunch :) 20.51.40 # Nico_P: you need to set the path correctly 20.51.40 *** Alert Mode level 1 20.51.40 # how do i do that ? 20.51.40 # since it worked before, you should know :) 20.51.40 *** Alert Mode level 2 20.51.40 # i did do "export PATH=/home/linus/sh1/bin:$PATH", adapted to my system 20.51.40 # yeah, that's what you want to run 20.51.40 *** Alert Mode level 3 20.51.40 # it worked, and then it stopped working 20.51.40 # that's because you're in another terminal now 20.51.40 # it's a per session setting only 20.51.40 *** Alert Mode level 4 20.51.40 # ah 20.51.40 *** Alert Mode level 5 20.51.40 # you may want to put it in ~/.bashrc or whatever cygwin uses 20.51.40 Quit Sinbios ("If the definition of a klutz is someone who doesn't have eyes on their ass, then yes, I suppose I am a klutz.") 20.51.40 *** Alert Mode level 6 20.51.40 # i'm not on cygwin anymore 20.51.40 *** Alert Mode level 7 20.51.40 # what are you in? 20.51.40 *** Alert Mode level 8 20.51.40 # kubuntu 20.51.40 *** Alert Mode level 9 20.51.40 # ah sorry, i just assumed you were on windows since everyone here seems to be :) 20.51.41 *** Alert Mode level 10 20.51.41 # i was but i changed today 20.51.41 *** Alert Mode level 11 20.51.41 # then it should most likely be the file i wrote 20.51.41 *** Alert Mode level 12 20.51.41 # i'm a pretty big linux noob 20.51.41 *** Alert Mode level 13 20.51.41 # yeah i have it, i'll add the line 20.52.14 # thanks :) 20.57.51 Join qwm [0] (n=qwm@h147n2fls32o1010.telia.com) 21.01.42 *** Alert Mode OFF 21.03.16 # does someone have the latest scroll margins patch ? 21.03.16 # flyspray isn't accessible right now 21.05.29 # Nico_P, try again 21.05.36 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 21.05.38 # yes i spole too soon 21.05.40 # spoke 21.06.47 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 21.08.26 Quit qwm_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.11.24 Part XavierGr 21.16.31 Join herz42 [0] (n=herz42@p549FF3A9.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.17.45 # Hehe 21.18.03 # So they did add the option to have the first key press get backlight on 21.18.16 # But now I'm use to just hitting record to get the backlight on XD 21.20.36 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 21.24.22 # ep0ch: it's not like I've rewritten the playback code or anything, it's still Slasheri's... I'm just refactoring it for thread safety and stuff 21.26.14 # and hooray for that 21.26.14 Quit midkay_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.28.11 # hmmm 21.28.14 # rockbox.org go down? 21.28.25 # It's getting picky now 21.29.36 # works just fine here 21.30.48 # seems to be up and down 21.33.53 # I should probably get the update now 21.33.53 # Since the last one I have is 3/23 21.33.53 Part mozetti 21.34.11 Join iJason [0] (n=acbcf620@labb.contactor.se) 21.34.17 # Hi 21.35.26 # When making your own progress bar for the wps's, what do you need to do so it "fills" correctly during song playback? 21.37.24 # i'm looking a rockbox wiki pages about rockbox architecture and they are very nice to read 21.38.42 # yea, i want to make my own killer wps, im just experimenting modifying some of the basic wps;s 21.43.43 Quit iJason ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 21.49.01 # why can't rockbox go in disk mode without switching to apple disk mode ? 21.49.12 # because we have no disk mode of our own 21.49.18 # we don't know how it works 21.49.44 # we have no documentation on the ipod, so we have to dig through the code of the original os to find out how it works first, and that's a lot of work 21.50.39 # preglow: ok, I understand :) (i'm trying to understand the code) So usb_slave_mode() never gets called for ipod 21.51.09 Join c0utta [0] (n=cbad1f07@labb.contactor.se) 21.52.24 # i don't quite know, i'm not too familiar with that part of the code 21.52.53 # preglow: ok 21.54.16 # preglow: how can I find documentation about the hexadecimal adresses I can find in the code ? where did you get'em from ? 21.54.46 # MarcoPolo: we got them from ipodlinux, and the reason they haven't given them descpritive names, is that they don't really know what all of them do... 21.55.05 # MarcoPolo: like i said, we have absolutely no docs on the portalplayer chip at all, all we know comes from reverse engineering 21.55.42 # preglow: so you have done a really nice job ! 21.57.29 # heh, thanks 21.57.41 # the ipodlinux guys deserve a lot of the credit, though 21.57.51 # yes :) 21.57.51 # weren't it for them, there would be no ipod rockbox 21.58.30 Join qwm_ [0] (n=qwm@h147n2fls32o1010.telia.com) 21.58.31 # preglow: how did you learn programming hardware ? (I ask you this question because I want to try ;)) 21.59.39 # Hey.. do you think that rockbox could emulate c64 on an iRiver H320? 22.00.38 # MarcoPolo: basically by just programming hardware, if you already can program, just get some hardware and start coding 22.01.00 # i didn't have much embedded programming experience before starting to code for rockbox 22.01.15 # and i think that's about a bit over a year ago 22.01.16 # preglow: and in reverse engineering ? 22.01.39 # MarcoPolo: i haven't done very much reverse engineering, but yeah, if you know assembler language for the cpu in question, then that isn't too hard either 22.01.40 # preglow: ok, i already can program (rather ui programming for KDE) 22.01.53 # preglow: ok 22.01.56 # KDE? 22.02.18 # Kyomi: k desktop environment (for linux) 22.02.32 # I can program some in java :) 22.05.44 Quit c0utta ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 22.06.30 Join solexx_ [0] (n=jrschulz@d081044.adsl.hansenet.de) 22.06.31 Quit solexx (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.06.51 Join sharpe [0] (i=ziggy@user-0c8hc11.cable.mindspring.com) 22.07.46 # Kyomi: that won't do you much good in Rockbox 22.07.57 # i'm back from my trip! 22.10.08 # and i did not realize i forgot to get my copy of the rockbox source on my usb drive instead of just the cvs, so i acomplished nothing! :) 22.10.08 # lostlogic: ok wierd, i tried a 5 month old build and rockbox moans about a codec failure on that particular file. Now i'm intrigued why rockbox wont play it... 22.10.23 Quit qwm (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.10.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.13.14 # so who do i talk to to put my idle server to work (see /topic) 22.19.44 Quit thegeek ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 22.23.57 # MrStaticVoid: Bagder og t0mas 22.23.59 # or 22.25.22 # oh it looks like the rockbox vorbis codec wont play files that are less than 4 seconds long 22.25.33 # MrStaticVoid: seen this => http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CvsBuildServer 22.25.47 # yeah, ive already set everything up 22.25.52 # cool 22.26.33 # i just need the public key, the acbuild.pl script, and you guys to say "ok" 22.26.51 # I'll paste you the key in a /msg 22.26.58 # Bagder what is/was up with the www.rockbox.org (aka cool.haxx.se) ? 22.27.47 # eh? 22.28.28 # very slow connections all day ... 22.28.42 Join c0utta [0] (n=cbad1f07@labb.contactor.se) 22.30.38 # Bagder: you haven't reached the limit where the connection wont cope yet? 22.31.03 # and btw, what's up with the latest build... 22.32.32 # there seems to be a problem with at least one server and the script doesn't deal with it nicely 22.35.27 # unfortunately there isn't yet a very good main log to display these kinds of things 22.35.53 # Bagder i think these were connection problems ... 22.36.16 # hehe 22.37.01 Quit obo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.37.30 # it seems unlikely to me 22.38.16 # Bagder believe me or not, not only me experienced problems with www.rockbox.org, with cvs and etc... see the irc log ... 22.38.17 # where can I tell rochbox to treat .c and .h files as .txt ? 22.38.33 # I believe you, its not about that 22.38.50 # the builds are done by outgoing connections from the server 22.39.03 # might have had trouble that way too 22.39.08 # sure 22.39.13 # just unlikely 22.40.45 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 22.40.45 # * amiconn reappears 22.41.14 # dpro there was something like viewers.conf ... 22.41.19 # in the .rockbox dir 22.41.39 # Bger: thx will have a look 22.42.03 # in what ways did you experience connection problems? 22.43.15 # Bger: hmmm can't seem to find it ... 22.43.28 # ahhh got it 22.43.30 # Bagder timeouts ... 22.43.49 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@adsl-70-241-86-28.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 22.43.58 Join webguest25 [0] (n=3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) 22.44.44 # sometimes 100% lost packets 3-4 hops from www.rockbox.org 22.44.47 # I too had problems earlier today.. connection would go away for about 30-60 seconds and come back for a minute 22.44.51 # well, my ssh connections to it has lived all day 22.45.04 # A traceroute died somewhere in swip.net iirc 22.45.20 # yep, something like this 22.45.39 # hehe now browsing the source tree on a nano ;) 22.45.44 # Sometimes variables are modified and it launches interrupts or so on ... how does it work ? 22.45.50 # haha dpro 22.46.39 # dpro: Now make rockbox compile on th enano itself ;) 22.46.45 # though now I can reproduce the bug that was mentioned here last night (textviewer uses only 1/3 of the screen width) 22.46.54 # you could do that pretty easily with ipl probably (for some values of easy) 22.46.54 # We need a gcc and a make .rock 22.46.56 # amiconn: np with ipodlinux ;) 22.47.10 # And the rest of the tools 22.47.24 # paul: and a slightly more efficient textentry mechanism 22.47.38 # well good luck compiling gcc for arm on uclinux... 22.47.59 # the way gcc is maintained I'd say the chances are slim 22.48.47 # dpro: What, morse code isn't good enough for you? 22.50.28 # Paul_The_Nerd: Some people seem to *require* vi for proper coding... 22.50.59 # Now if someone can come up with a decent button mapping for vibox... 22.51.40 # I'm of the opinion you work with the tools you've got. 22.52.14 # paul: hehe 22.52.15 # Morse code, and a single line display should be plenty 22.52.40 # guys gotta go, ttyl 22.53.18 Quit dpro ("big blue room") 22.54.44 # Somehow I doubt that gcc would run well enough to be able to build rockbox. Not without virtual memory 22.57.43 # 32MB ... i doubt it too 22.58.01 # even 64MB on iPod Video ... 22.59.41 # When I ran my VM with a total of 448MB memory (192MB physical + 256MB swap), compilation failed in z80.c. "Not enough virtual memory" 22.59.51 # Upping to 512MB solved the problem 23.01.21 # hrm, i ran ulimit -v 32000 and make finished without problems 23.01.35 # tail -f /dev/full complained about no memory right away though 23.02.35 # Did you try a full rebuild? 23.02.38 # yeah 23.02.43 # i'm a bit suspicious though 23.02.44 Quit Paul_The_Nerd (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.03.27 Join webguest66 [0] (n=54939ade@labb.contactor.se) 23.05.03 Quit webguest66 (Client Quit) 23.05.20 # hm, it only seems to use 20M 23.06.43 # Hmm, even z80.c? 23.06.50 # (It's part of pacbox) 23.07.00 # my method of looking at top while building isn't very scientific since it only updates every 2 seconds 23.07.20 # well, setting 12000 fails 23.07.23 # you can make it update faster 23.07.38 # though I forget the command 23.07.58 # 22000 seems to compile too, not z80 yet 23.08.18 # which is strange considering amiconns numbers 23.08.58 # z80 built with 22000 too 23.09.30 # but i guess that doesn't include loaded binary sizes and stuff 23.09.38 # and glibc would already be loaded by other programs 23.09.39 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@ip-7.net-82-216-143.rev.numericable.fr) 23.10.04 # nite ;) 23.10.07 Quit Bger ("[BX] Harry Potter uses BitchX. Shouldn't you?") 23.16.07 # exit 23.17.41 Quit Febs_ () 23.26.04 Join qwm [0] (n=qwm@h147n2fls32o1010.telia.com) 23.30.21 Quit webguest25 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.31.44 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.stb.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 23.36.30 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 23.37.25 Quit JoeBorn ("Leaving") 23.38.05 Quit qwm_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.42.18 Quit midkay (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.42.28 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@c-24-16-191-240.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 23.44.34 Quit Febs () 23.44.40 # anyone with a commit pending? 23.45.10 Quit mirak ("Ex-Chat") 23.47.25 # depends what time-frame you're talking :> 23.47.34 # 20 minutes or so 23.47.42 # ah, no 23.47.46 # heavy maintainance coming up? 23.47.53 # I did some script changes and added a server and wanted to see it working before I get to bed 23.48.33 # hmm, can't think of anything i can commit right now 23.48.33 # I'll see what can dig up... 23.49.41 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4719 :) 23.50.41 Join bagawk [0] (n=lee@unaffiliated/bagawk) 23.51.12 # you can swap the play and record button keys in button.h for the x5. thats an obvious problem. 23.52.06 # problem for what? 23.52.59 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-3-196.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 23.53.31 # pressing the rec button on the x5 generates 0x2 which is defined as BUTTON_PLAY in button.h. That is a problem, isnt it? 23.54.12 # likewise pressing play generates what is defined as BUTTON_REC 23.54.56 # oh 23.57.19 Quit rmrmg ("znik³") 23.57.32 Quit SereR0KR (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.57.44 Join ThommyRocky [0] (n=SupportR@p54BC816C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 23.57.54 # HI 23.58.04 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 23.58.05 # Is there a Sim 4 IPOD 5g? 23.58.56 # yes