--- Log for 09.04.106 Server: clarke.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot- Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 14 days and 6 hours ago 00.01.10 Quit Genre9mp3 () 00.01.59 Quit midkay ("Leaving") 00.07.09 Join sharpe [0] (i=ziggy@user-0c8hc11.cable.mindspring.com) 00.08.06 # <]RowaN[> has anyone come in here to argue that /games/doom should go into /rockbox/games/doom or would i be the first one? =p 00.10.35 Quit XavierGr ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 00.10.47 Quit Kohlrabi ("Fast alle Menschen sind Regenwürmer") 00.16.53 Join maeck [0] (n=chatzill@c-24-5-215-181.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 00.24.33 # linuxstb: did the trick. Thanks! 00.29.38 Quit ender` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.33.38 # I wish i had picked up an H120 back in the day 00.33.51 # what other dap has a digital output :) 00.39.26 # archos recorders do 00.40.38 # For some reason I have the impression that many newer daps are a step back concerning numerous features 00.41.19 # DRM and digital outputs don't go well together either. 00.42.31 # archos recorders have digital in+out, and so does the iriver h1x0 series 00.44.14 # recorder had a digital output? huh 00.44.20 # Yes 00.44.21 # didn't know that 00.44.26 # I had a Series 5000 00.44.30 # ollllld school :) 00.44.32 # Not optical, but electrical 00.44.47 # ? 00.44.50 # The 5000 didn't. It's the player 00.44.55 # heh. 00.45.30 # digital output means the pcm data is sent there? 00.45.40 # s/pdif 00.45.59 # ah right 00.46.04 # s/pdif exists in 2 incarnations, optical (toslink) and electrical 00.46.21 # i think my sblive has one of those, but i can plug in regular phone contacts in it too 00.51.08 Join DrMoos [0] (i=DrMoos@m12.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 00.51.08 Quit Moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.51.10 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 00.52.07 Nick DrMoos is now known as Moos (i=DrMoos@m12.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 00.58.19 Join solexx_ [0] (n=jrschulz@d157073.adsl.hansenet.de) 00.58.58 Join Zoide777 [0] (n=800c5ab5@labb.contactor.se) 00.59.18 # hi guys 00.59.39 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 01.00.13 # how does this work? queue_post(&pcmrec_queue, PCMREC_INIT, 0); 01.00.43 # I'm trying to debug pcm_record.c, and there is a while(!init_done) after that call that just sleeps 01.01.02 Join imphasing [0] (n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net) 01.01.17 # but then the execution doesn't seem to go anywhere. i even have a gui_syncsplash at the start of every function in pcm_record.c to try to find where it goes, but it seems to go nowhere 01.02.33 # another thread would have to change that variable 01.02.43 # presumably the pcmrec thread 01.03.51 Quit mikearthur (Remote closed the connection) 01.04.03 Quit muesli- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.04.56 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 01.06.06 Quit mikearthur (Remote closed the connection) 01.06.27 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 01.07.29 Quit mikearthur (Remote closed the connection) 01.08.05 Quit obo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.13.17 Quit Kyomi|off (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.17.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.19.52 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.stb.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 01.19.54 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 01.21.41 Quit bluebrother^ ("Leaving") 01.22.22 # Mikachu: wouldn't that thread be code that is in pcm_record.c? I ask b/c I already put gui_syncsplashes at the beginning of every function there and it seems to go nowhere.. 01.22.29 Quit tianjing (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.24.35 # where a thread runs isn't really controlled by the file 01.24.39 # playback.c starts 3 threads 01.25.00 # code in that file may or may not be run by your thread 01.25.06 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 01.29.00 # Mikachu: i see. but I just can't figure out where the code from the thread is from... i mean, the call is queue_post(&pcmrec_queue, PCMREC_INIT, 0), so I supposed that execution would go to pcmrec_init(), which is in pcm_record.c 01.29.41 # you want to find the code that polls pcmrec_queue 01.29.53 # and possibly the switch statement that has a "case PCMREC_INIT:" 01.30.02 # ahhh 01.30.04 # let's see 01.32.18 # ok, I grepped the whole source code, and only pcm_record.c has "case PCMREC_INIT", which is in pcmrec_thread(). the strange thing is that I have a gui_syncsplash() right at the start of pcmrec_thread(), and it never seems to be called (i.e. the text in the gui_syncsplash doesn't come on screen) 01.34.09 Quit mikearthur (Remote closed the connection) 01.35.32 # then possibly the thread is never started 01.35.48 # do you have a delay on the syncsplash too, maybe it's getting overwritten? 01.37.57 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=5343d4aa@labb.contactor.se) 01.39.16 # The delay won't help if the ui thread overwrites it 01.39.25 # that's true 01.39.44 # what if you have a 0 delay and spin? (evil) 01.40.28 # I bet the pcmrec thread either doesn't get started, or it hangs somewhere in an init 01.42.09 # could having gui_syncsplashes all over the place cause something like that? 01.42.37 # it might be easier to debug with the piezo :) 01.43.18 # hehe 01.43.33 # oh how I miss good old printf() on a console.. 01.47.00 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 01.47.26 Quit ]RowaN[ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.53.02 Join JdGordon [0] (n=JdGordon@c211-28-227-249.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 01.56.55 Join webguest30 [0] (n=52a62c9b@labb.contactor.se) 01.57.10 Join lamed [0] (n=52a62c9b@labb.contactor.se) 01.57.10 Quit webguest30 (Client Quit) 01.58.02 # hello everyone. I'd love if some serious devs take a l00k at my thread over http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=3425.0 01.59.20 # new prboom release again 02.00.19 Quit lamed (Client Quit) 02.01.31 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 02.02.10 Join essoe [0] (n=seooe@cpe-70-112-187-124.austin.res.rr.com) 02.03.49 # Hi, I was hoping someone could help me, I couldn't find an answer in the forums, or wiki. I've installed rockbox on my ipod photo 4g, but when booting I get a Rockbox error: -1 .. I know my partions run LinuxOnIpod, but wasnt sure if they're setup right for rockbox.. thanks 02.08.28 # essoe: Have you copied rockbox.ipod and the .rockbox folder over, or extracted rockbox.zip in the root of your player? 02.09.01 # Someone should create a Wiki page with all the error codes and what they mean (how to fix, etc.) 02.10.20 # Paul: yeah I got the daily build and extracted it there 02.11.19 # Paul: would it matter that I have other files there ? ( I installed LinuxForIpod first).. and do you know what the -1 Error means? 02.11.49 Quit mikearthur (Remote closed the connection) 02.12.07 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 02.12.45 # essoe: Well, it needs to be in the first partition (well, second once you count the hidden boot partition) and that partition MUST be Fat32 formatted 02.16.03 Quit TCK ("well, if you say so.") 02.16.34 # paul: thanks =) that fixed it.. I was putting in the 3rd parition, the one I'd setup for linux previously 02.16.35 Quit mikearthur (Client Quit) 02.17.17 # essoe: Error -1 means rockbox.ipod can't be found, so I figured you either hadn't copied it, had it in the wrong place, or had the wrong format partition. :) 02.20.10 # paul- dump question.. but how do I get to my music? 02.21.13 # You browse to it? 02.21.23 # i think ipod_control is hidden by default 02.21.52 # Rockbox is filetree based in the default configuration, so you just browse to your music and click on it. Since ipod_control is hidden, you need to set the ipod to show all files (hold Menu to get a quickscreen, then hit Play a few times 'till it says "All Files") 02.22.04 # *cough*tagcache 02.22.18 # essoe: Rockbox also has a database you can use instead, explained herehttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TagCache 02.22.23 # midkay: Oi, give me time. 02.22.28 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@124.60.15.86) 02.22.35 # Paul_The_Nerd, just hurry up!!! 02.22.36 # :) 02.22.39 # you need an answer bot 02.22.45 # thanks =) .. one more question.. how do I quit snake2 ? .. up and menu doesnt seem to work 02.22.47 # haha. i find it amusing that you have your plan laid out. :) 02.23.10 # essoe: i think the keybinds are a bit broken for ipod in that plugin 02.23.19 # just press some random keys and it should quit after a while :) 02.23.34 # haha. 02.23.43 # hold menu, tap select, at the initial screen.. 02.29.13 # one last question.. Is there a util or something that can take the F00, F01, etc dirs of an ipod, and recreate the Artist\Album dir structure? 02.29.41 # yes, TagCache.. which was mentioned by Paul_The_Nerd a moment ago 02.30.13 # hi 02.30.20 # essoe: Any tag&rename type tool should be able to build a directory structure from the filenames in the files, but you'll then be unable to play them in the apple software. If you use tagcache, you get a menu similar to what the apple software gives that lets you browse by Artist, Album, or Genre 02.36.19 Part raf82 02.36.33 # thanks-- I've been running linux on my pc for awhile, and hadnt been able to easily update/exchange stuff between the ipod.. This should work really well tho.. my biggest worry was that I had a large partition in itunes that I wanted to keep using, or adding to, but I didnt own the pc that it was synced to.. so I just had a backup of it.. Thanks again, this looks really cool 02.36.48 # fwiw, gtkpod worked pretty well 02.38.07 Quit Zoide777 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.44.35 # how do you go back to song info? 02.44.49 # press play in the file browser 02.44.54 # thanks 02.45.15 # and if you're using daily builds, i think the one from 3rd april will work better than current ones 02.45.25 # if you want to actually listen to music 02.45.29 # Hehehe 02.45.32 Quit Moos ("Glory to Rockbox !!!") 02.45.37 # is it that bad that I'll notice? 02.45.41 # yes 02.45.43 # I crashed it already once 02.45.55 # okay thanks for the heads up 02.45.57 # There's a few freezes in the playback code, I think relating to next track and or seeking 02.46.08 # it also plays the wrong song sometimes, and makes funny noises 02.46.15 # Oooh, neat. 02.46.20 # haha. 02.46.30 # do they sound like farts? *prays* 02.46.35 # i'll upgrade for sure!!!!!!!!! 02.46.35 # Ok I have been poking around the wiki, whats the quick and dirty way to make playlists? 02.46.36 # not really 02.46.40 # bah. 02.46.44 # sry 02.46.47 # *unplugs iPod* 02.46.49 # yeah. whatever. 02.46.54 # :\ 02.46.58 Quit obo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.47.08 # Y'know what's funny? My laptop died on 04-03, so I stopped making custom builds for myself, and just stuck with the one I made at 8 AM CST that morning 02.47.14 # heh 02.47.25 # haha. .. your laptop died. haha. 02.47.29 # le Pwnd. 02.47.53 # scottder: Insert songs until you have the playlist you desire, then choose the playist options in the menu, and save it? 02.48.13 # midkay: Well, it's being replaced under warranty. Oddly enough, my desktop takes 10 seconds more to compile than the laptop did. 02.48.27 # you remember how many seconds a build takes? 02.48.34 # it's not just because more plugins are added? 02.48.41 # I had those plugins already 02.48.45 # Paul_The_Nerd, haha. even more pwnd.. 02.48.46 # i guess none are added since the 4th 02.48.53 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-122-125.VIC.netspace.net.au) 02.49.03 # It went from 1:31 to 1:43 02.49.35 # i rarely rebuild the whole tree 02.49.55 # I did, because I was curious if my desktop was faster. 02.50.10 # ah 02.50.29 # same version of gcc etc? 02.50.39 # It's odd though. I mean, the files are on a faster HD, it has twice the ram available, and the laptop has the DTR version of the exact same processor as my desktop. There's not really a practical reason why the laptop would be faster. 02.50.49 # Mikachu: I copied the VMWare image over. 02.50.56 # ah 02.51.20 # Paul_The_Nerd, wait, did you forget to pause your hundreds of porn downloads? those can be real CPU suckers.. ;) 02.51.26 # Paul_The_Nerd: hmmm ok will have to play with it more 02.51.49 # scottder: The quickest and dirtiest way is to create one in winamp and simply copy it over 02.52.17 # midkay: Oh, right, maybe I shouldn't have been playing Oblivion while running 37 torrents and watching a DVD, right? 02.52.38 # 37??! 02.52.45 # I use foobar2000 02.52.46 # Paul_The_Nerd, ah, that may not have helped as much as we once believed.. 02.53.14 # what would be awesome is a foobar2000/winamp plugin that could sync for rockbox and build the tagcache :) 02.54.39 # Mikachu: It's a joke. I wasn't running anything else. And I never run more than 8 torrents at once. 02.55.20 # scottder: Well, foobar2000 can save m3u playlists as well. As for building tagcache, it's open source so one could conceivably create a plugin for foobar2000 to do it if someone really wanted to. 02.55.23 # i realized that not more than one second after i pressed enter 02.55.32 # No worries. 02.55.38 # is there a shutdown option? 02.55.42 # Paul_The_Nerd: indeed....just thinking out loud really 02.55.48 # essoe: hold play for a few seconds 02.55.49 # essoe: Hold play/pause for about 6-8 seconds 02.56.18 # maybe i should stop hogging my quit menu to myself 02.56.22 # scottder: it's definitely been suggested. It'd build tagcache a LOT quicker than the built in feature, and would be useful for people who often change their music on small-storage players (Nano, and I suppose Ondio) 02.57.03 # the nano is almost small enough to not need much managing of the music 02.57.24 # :/ 02.57.42 # I just do a genre/artist/album layout and itb works fine for me 02.57.57 # and with music a Q4 and Q3 ogg vorbis...holds plenty for my needs 03.00.34 # yeah, built my first plugin, created a cross compiler and got the rock on th eipod working. YEAH 03.01.04 # you built an existing plugin or you wrote a new one? 03.01.27 # new one from the ground up 03.01.39 # what's it do? 03.01.42 # it is just a proof of concept for a graphical menu 03.01.54 # ah 03.02.21 # the scrollwheel is not behaving as I thought it would be 03.02.46 # the wheel driver isn't very sophisticated 03.03.23 # need to check what is going on. 03.04.25 # anyhow, can someone explain how bitmaps are loaded? I included: extern const fb_data jewels[]; 03.04.36 # that would be not me 03.04.37 # now, magically the jewels bmp file gets loaded 03.04.53 # did not expect it would be. 03.04.56 # it's compiled into the plugin lib 03.05.00 # so the linker finds it for you 03.05.03 # i think 03.05.16 # hmm, that would be cool 03.05.25 # it'll be stored in your .rock 03.05.49 # so that would be somewhere in the make file I guess 03.05.58 # the reference to the file 03.07.16 # anyhow, got plenty more to do on this. but first ARM build works like a charm... somehow at least 03.13.14 # the bmp files are converted to fb_data arrays before being linked 03.16.46 Nick qwm_ is now known as qwm (n=qwm@h147n2fls32o1010.telia.com) 03.17.31 Part Paul_The_Nerd 03.18.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.18.40 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 03.23.18 # thanks 03.32.45 Join _Lucretia_ [0] (n=munkee@dynamic-212-225-14-151.park-s46b.dslaccess.co.uk) 03.33.02 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-122-125.VIC.netspace.net.au) 03.46.11 # is it possible to lockup where you cant reboot at all? 03.47.03 Quit sharpe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.47.44 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 03.48.32 # essoe: you may have to hit the reset button 03.48.41 # if you cant get your player off 03.49.05 # goffa- wheres the reset button on an ipod?.. 03.49.40 # menu+select 03.49.48 # hold for five seconds 03.50.30 # thanks Galois ... i wasn't going to be able to answer that 03.50.32 # galois- okay-- thast not working either 03.50.52 # it should ALWAYS work. It's a hardware circuit, just as good as the old paper clip pinholes of yore 03.51.14 # < - has the paper clip pinhole 03.51.29 # it doesnt work tho-- 03.51.36 # hold them down longer 03.51.43 # I tried minute plus 03.51.46 # heh 03.51.48 # is hold on? 03.51.52 # no 03.52.04 # you need a minimal amount of dexterity to hit the buttons at the same time, that's all 03.52.15 # I can tell how I crashed it though 03.52.31 # you don't have to press them at the same time 03.53.10 # I created the database with all my files in F0 F1, etc dirs.. then connected to pc, deleted all the files on the ipod, and reuploaded them.. tried to create new list, but the ipod tried to play gtkpod######.mp3 and remembered that, and hung at that screen 03.53.21 # I guess I'll just wait for the battery to die, and then boot up in hd mode afterwards 03.56.54 # blah, I hate bugs that I can't reproduce with logf on . 03.59.36 # essoe: tried holding down just play? 04.11.13 # whee, almost commit time! 04.11.57 # * Mikachu breaks out the cookies and lemonade 04.12.41 # I've ended up doing another fairly big refactor in the process of fixing buffer fill initialization :-\ 04.13.45 # is it "safe" to run my gfx card @ 78C ? 04.13.56 # i would feel a bit uneasy 04.14.01 # but i think so 04.14.15 # according to nvidia-settings, my card will clock down when it reaches 150° 04.14.21 # which i think seems a tad high 04.14.53 # most chips are rated at 90c before physical damage occurs, so 78 should be fine as long as you aren't getting artifacts 04.15.06 # it will probably degrade faster, the hotter it is 04.15.18 # but as long as it lasts 2 years it shouldn't matter :) 04.15.52 # i turned off both fans in my comp.. gpu is at 78C, cpu is 50 and psu is 50.. and its nice n quiet :D 04.16.10 # im tihnking i should turn em back on to and get that all down to 60, 30,30 04.16.24 # goffa_ (and any other swcodec people) please test latest commit. 04.16.32 # gpu has no fan directly on it.. and its jammed beteen 2 other cards 04.16.35 # ayway 04.16.36 # im off 04.18.10 # JdGordon: i have an 80 mm fan hanging in a string next to my computer blowing air in :) 04.25.09 Quit _Lucretia_ ("Leaving") 04.31.19 # hm 04.31.46 Join Doomed [0] (n=nnscript@ool-44c53f18.dyn.optonline.net) 04.31.49 # hi 04.32.09 # hi 04.32.57 # is the playback bac kt onormal yet? 04.33.06 # maybe it is a bit better now 04.33.12 # lolo just did something 04.33.35 # like can u add tracks to playlist yet? 04.35.06 # lostlogic: seeking seems a bit messed up now, but i can't guarantee it's not something i did 04.35.42 Join harbel [0] (n=harbel@chtwpe0105w-142068115155.pppoe-dynamic.pei.aliant.net) 04.35.50 # How do I use the bookmark? 04.35.57 # in rockbox 04.37.28 # dunno 04.37.31 # what is bookmark 04.37.39 # ahh 04.37.44 # I found it 04.37.59 Join warthawg [0] (n=warthawg@cpe-66-68-180-235.austin.res.rr.com) 04.38.01 # lostlogic: i set a B mark and the progress bar jumped to 0:00 but the song continued playing (also had set an A mark before that) 04.38.09 # Doomed: I don't speak well english. 04.38.10 # lostlogic: but regular seeking seems weird in the same way 04.38.53 # its dead here tonight 04.40.43 # lostlogic: and skipping fast still brings up some spurious codec failure signs 04.42.27 # Mikachu: that's existed since before, it's just a mistaken error message, because the codec gets stopped before it's initialized due to the fast skipping 04.42.36 # okay 04.42.42 # seeking is megabusted though 04.42.54 # Mikachu: how megabusted, the above are just GUI abberations 04.43.12 # Doomed: I think it's fairly back to normal now 04.43.20 # ok thanks 04.43.21 # it seeks to the wrong place, seeks many times, changes tracks sometimes 04.43.24 # Doomed: please test it and let me konw :-P 04.43.44 # wait, what are u talking about 04.45.12 # even without seeking, I can get codec failure just by playing a song 04.45.51 # Galois: latest CVS, any further detail? 04.46.11 # Mikachu: seeking is messed up when you seek to an area not in RAM, or all seeks? 04.46.14 # lostlogic, I was using CVS from 12 hrs ago 04.46.26 # Galois: use new CVS, I've made major bug fixes since then 04.46.26 # I'll update now 04.47.33 # HM 04.47.37 # now it claims it is out of battery 04.47.46 # it has been plugged in the whole day 04.47.50 # in apple os 04.48.03 # reset! 04.48.04 # i don't understand how uisimulator works 04.48.07 # how claims? shutoff hard? 04.48.17 # it said in b/w 04.48.23 # and now it won't turn on the lcd 04.48.37 # odd. 04.48.42 # incredibyl 04.49.04 # Mikachu: rebuffer and seek is offically foobarred still 04.49.07 # I'm working on it 04.49.12 # okay 04.49.33 # thought I'd tested that in one of my test cases, but I must not have gotten back into the unbuffered area 04.49.49 # hm 04.49.57 # looks like the boot partition broke a bit 04.50.01 # it booted disk mode now at least 04.51.56 # hm fat broken :/ 04.53.02 # :( 04.53.10 # I _didn't_ do it 04.53.14 # i know 04.53.17 # :) 04.54.15 # hm, reading in emergency mode seems to not be as painfully slow as writing at least 04.55.56 # hey, the latest cvs can play files without crashing 04.56.05 # that's good... 04.57.27 # already done copying to hd 04.58.04 # Galois: :-P 04.58.06 # Mikachu: it is 04.58.18 # Galois: hopefully rebuffer and seek will be fixed soon too 04.58.19 # not painfully slow? 04.58.43 # Mikachu: it should all be usb 1.1 IIRC 04.58.56 # well, it copied 1.1G in 4 minutes 04.59.12 # that's 4.5MB/s 04.59.23 # ok, I'm foncused. 05.00.19 Join lamed [0] (n=55405bb5@labb.contactor.se) 05.01.26 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-120-83.VIC.netspace.net.au) 05.01.28 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB2070C.ipt.aol.com) 05.01.49 # bzcat ipod_os_partition_backup.bz2 > /dev/sda1 got it booting apple os at least 05.02.04 # hey guys; how hard is it to take the h-120 screen off? I've lost the ground connection on the headphone jack and I think the problem is underneath the screen. 05.02.17 # hey guys; how hard is it to take the h-120 screen off? I've lost the ground connection on the headphone jack and I think the problem is underneath the screen. 05.02.23 # whoops 05.02.34 # hm, rewrote my rockboot.bin and it works too 05.02.41 # i tried that first too but that didn't work 05.02.51 # oh well! it works so i'm happy 05.03.15 # hm, this is not a good message from rockbox i think 05.03.19 # Save failed! 05.03.21 # no partition? 05.04.32 # hey guys; how hard is it to take the h-120 screen off? I've lost the ground connection on the headphone jack and I think the problem is underneath the screen. 05.05.00 Quit ashridah (Client Quit) 05.05.21 # ...it looks like there's some spong layer keeping dust away glued to the board, should it be removed? 05.05.48 # lamed: I don't think anyone here has a clue, and repeating yourself is extremely rude 05.06.44 # well rebuffer no longer causes playback ot get messed up beyond repair, but it sure ain't good. 05.07.30 # mkdosfs and copying backup back, lets see if this helps 05.07.55 # listen, it's 6 in the morning, i haven't slept all night, and i'm off for a week from today; in times like this, you have no control over your hands :/ 05.08.14 # i do not know 05.08.32 # its probably like a normal lcd screen with a clip holding the wires down 05.09.59 # the thing is, i don't know if there's a connector there or is it weired to place. and i'm not trying anything before I know what's that spong doing :/ nevermind, thanks anyway :( 05.10.43 # i think there might be a tut. on the rockbox site 05.10.45 # not sure 05.13.59 Quit warthawg ("my work here is done") 05.14.41 Join sharpe [0] (i=ziggy@user-0c8hc11.cable.mindspring.com) 05.14.53 Join Doomed_9 [0] (n=nnscript@ool-44c53f18.dyn.optonline.net) 05.17.41 Quit Rob2222_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.17.56 # Does anyone know how to get rid of the "Data Abort" error when loading addons in rockdoom with Doom 2? 05.18.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.18.25 # yes, there's an option to turn off crashes in a hidden menu 05.18.33 # i mean no, i don't know 05.19.32 Quit midkay ("Leaving") 05.23.25 # I want that change menu of rockbox. 05.24.01 # Array 05.25.14 # It's complicated and arrangement doesn't fit. 05.31.07 Join cismo [0] (i=cismo@adsl-85-217-32-228.kotinet.com) 05.31.31 # how do you set rockbox so the "now playing" has the rockbox logo? 05.31.49 # make a wps with the rb logo 05.32.05 Quit Doomed (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.32.24 # erh- I mean the default that has it.. I changed something, then replaced so setting and cant replace it 05.33.06 # What is 'Stereo Width'? Space persimmon? 05.33.06 # Cubic effect? 05.33.11 # how wide the little stereo in your player is. :D 05.33.49 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-120-83.VIC.netspace.net.au) 05.33.55 # sharpe: Korean have many word... 05.34.24 # so does latin. 05.34.49 # um? 05.34.54 # Width is.. 05.36.49 # crap, i still get save failed, no partition 05.38.22 Quit damaki (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.38.22 NSplit clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 05.38.22 Quit ep0ch (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.38.22 Quit amiconn (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.38.22 Quit merbanan (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.38.22 Quit Xerion (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.38.22 Quit xmixahlx (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.38.22 Quit YouCeyE (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.38.22 Quit psii (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.38.22 Quit ashridah (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.38.22 Quit Doomed_9 (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 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( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )' 05.40.18 # oops... what happened? 05.40.30 # netsplit 05.41.25 # heh, on a network with so few servers they make themselves more apparant... ;) 05.41.46 # so few servers? 05.42.00 # sorry, in comparison to dalnet or something 05.42.00 # that option(loudness) is using in the Rockbox? 05.43.05 Ctcp Version from freenode-connect!freenode@freenode/bot/connect 05.43.05 *** Server message 477: 'logbot- #RockBox :[freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg' 05.43.09 Quit darkless (Client Quit) 05.43.13 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48.adsl.vby.tiscali.dk) 05.43.39 # macdonalder: there's about 15-17 servers or so 05.44.12 Quit cismo_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.45.15 # and i don't think that includes the various hubs they use 05.45.15 # ahhh the distribution is different, I get it 05.46.17 # I thought dalnet had more 'cause I tend to split less there... they just have a larger portion of their servers in north america 05.46.21 Quit Doomed_9 ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.01 :: www.XLhost.de )") 05.46.57 # macdonalder: freenode has more servers in europe than the US 05.47.18 # yeah I'm looking at their server page ;) 05.47.25 # cool 05.47.32 # * macdonalder bows out gracefully ;D 05.47.44 # i completely forgot what i was doing 05.47.56 # :) 05.48.13 # sharpe: brooding? 05.48.19 Quit harbel ("Leaving") 05.48.45 # that's about it 05.50.11 # anyone don't know loudness is used in rockbox? 05.50.48 # Super Bass, MDB, Auto Volume.... 05.51.28 # I didn't saw it once... 05.53.48 Join Arrogant [0] (i=Scott@103.orlando-04-05rs.fl.dial-access.att.net) 05.54.29 # Jungti1234: rockbox only has the parametric EQ and the basic bass/trebel sliders 05.55.29 # then, why language file have Super Bass and so on? 05.56.44 # that's a good question. it could be a feature of the hardware decoder in some of the archos platforms 05.57.48 # Then, do rockbox unuse it now? 05.58.04 # heh. does anyone find it strange that "The simplefied guide to compiling" has a url of http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowToCompile but the "Detailed instructions on compiling" link uses the url http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToCompiling 05.58.29 # Jungti1234: i don't know, if it's a feature of the hardware-decoding platforms, then it's probably still in use on those platforms 05.59.04 # ashridah: maybe more detailed instructions are simpler to follow? :) 05.59.18 # hmm.. ok, ashridah. Thank you very much. 05.59.56 # Mikachu: hehe 06.03.40 # i'm going to try my hack for getting text output on the c64 emulator... 06.04.04 # yeah, i think aloud. 06.04.22 # Did you remember that you do what at last? 06.07.21 # Did you remember that you do what at last? 06.07.22 # sdoo 06.07.25 # sorry 06.08.55 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-36-69.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 06.14.38 Quit lamed ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 06.20.06 # hmm 06.20.15 # i've... something akin to text output. 06.20.18 Quit imphasing (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.20.23 Join XvG [0] (i=XvG@136.98.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) 06.21.58 # * XvG slaps darkless around a bit with a large trout 06.22.03 # Opps 06.22.13 # heh.. haven't seen that it a long time 06.22.32 # :X 06.22.50 # Hey goffa can I ask you a question? 06.23.02 # you just did... but go ahead :) 06.23.40 # Pwn. Anyways, I was wondering if it is actually possible to get Rockbox running on a 2 gig nano 06.24.07 # http://www.bash.org/?111569 06.24.32 # i think so 06.24.48 Quit chi (K-lined) 06.24.53 # http://www.rockbox.org/dl.cgi?bin=ipodnano 06.24.57 # I've went through countless tutorials, and none of them work 06.24.58 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.25.12 # i'll be honest.. i haven't tried it on a nano 06.25.20 # i've got an iaudio x5 06.25.27 # GAr 06.25.31 # but according to reports... you should be able to get it working 06.26.01 # lol ashridah 06.26.23 # I run rockbox on a 4GB nano 06.26.44 # Should be able to is the problem 06.26.51 # I can't get it to run at all 06.27.06 # Galois mind uhh helping me? 06.27.12 # If you're not busy 06.27.18 # do you use windows? 06.27.21 # Yeah 06.27.36 # well the windows instructions are pretty clear 06.27.50 # heh, yay me and my emulator. 06.27.59 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation 06.28.24 # Yeah they are, and I got it running one time, but I could only go to MainOS 06.28.39 # hmm... interesting... 06.29.30 # Eh, Ill try this again 06.29.37 # What is AV Decay Time's meaning? 06.29.55 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 06.34.45 # [µµÀ±] ´ÔÀÇ ¸»: 06.34.45 # ¾î¸¥ ºñµð¿À´Â ½Ã°£À» ½âÀÔ´Ï´Ù. 06.34.50 # oh.. 06.35.10 # I make a mistake... 06.42.42 Join Kyomi [0] (n=a@24-196-196-108.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com) 06.42.59 # Anyone alive here? 06.43.14 # if that's what you call it, totally. 06.43.19 # Hah 06.43.41 # I was just wondering... would animated .gif be possible for support on iriver h320? 06.45.12 # i don't see why not... 06.45.35 # In the near future? 06.45.54 # I dont think anyone is working on midi/sid function ;_; 06.46.01 # i doubt it 06.46.01 # And I have no idea how to code 06.46.14 # well, my c64 emulator slightly works 06.46.53 # yay 06.47.02 # * Kyomi hugs you :3 06.47.09 # I wanna play r-type 06.47.30 # A very good way to find good games: 06.47.35 # 1) Listen to SLAYRadio 06.47.56 # 2) Go to www.c64hq.com and download the games that are the titles for the songs you like 06.48.03 # 3) Get c64 emulator 06.48.08 # 4) Enjoy :) 06.48.09 # Kyomi: I doubt it'd be in the near future, we're in feature freeze 06.48.23 # So theres no way of getting anything in the daily build? 06.48.42 # like the experimental build? 06.48.49 # there are always patches, but no NEW features should be entering cvs until the next release is out 06.49.13 # argh 06.49.22 # why? 06.49.38 # Cant they just you know... get what they need and be done with it? 06.49.50 # Or make a separate folder for ones with new features? 06.50.29 # it's called quality assurance. it's a necessary part of development. particularly with so many new platforms 06.51.26 # But..but...doom 06.51.39 # what about doom? 06.51.57 # There could be new features just WAITING to be added to it 06.52.20 # so they end up as patches in the tracker. 06.52.32 # Soo wait 06.52.41 # Then the experimental build isn't affected then? 06.52.59 # which experimental build? 06.53.01 # there's only daily builds 06.53.11 # (well, and cvs builds) 06.53.15 # h300 series experimental 06.53.21 # anything built by a third party isn't constrained by feature freeze 06.53.25 # its at http://rockbox.audiostuff.info 06.53.32 # yay 06.53.34 # I should go there 06.53.41 # but then, it's also not supported by the rockbox developers 06.53.50 # My last update was 04-05-06 06.54.00 # kind of funny in a numerical way 06.54.02 # Because they are twats ;P 06.54.06 # lmao 06.54.10 # I didn't realize that 06.54.18 # Kyomi, who're twats? 06.54.30 # It was a joke ^^; 06.54.42 # just curious who you were referring to, even jokingly.. :) 06.55.02 # the rockbox dev people that dont support the exp build 06.55.10 # Even though it had Doom first :P 06.55.21 # anyone could have had doom first, it was a patch. 06.55.59 # i guess apple are twats too, for not supporting rockbox, even though it runs on their players. surely they should be responsible for users flashing their ipods with 3rd party command-line tools! 06.56.34 # Apple are twats to begin with :P 06.56.42 # haha. 06.57.59 Quit XvG () 06.59.20 # here's a good twat picture 06.59.23 # http://www.seoulhash.net/1684TWAT.jpg 06.59.26 # ;) 06.59.51 Quit illya23b ("leaving") 07.02.28 # * Kyomi isn't sure if she should click that or not >.> 07.02.41 # LMAO 07.02.45 # Oh my god 07.02.48 # he he he.. its not pornographic... so i don't know if you want to click it or not 07.02.58 # That is the best thing...evar 07.06.50 # I sometimes hate myself for the way my music collection HAS TO be 07.07.03 # Bush 07.07.12 # I sometimes waste HOURS renaming things 07.08.19 # whois kyomi 07.08.23 # arghl 07.08.25 # that backfired :) 07.08.32 # :P 07.08.37 # I'm me :) 07.08.53 # you've got to be the first person claiming to be female that i've ever seen say "twat", i might add 07.09.25 # Yeah..umm... blame SLAYRadio ^^; 07.09.32 # They've gotten me to use it ^^; 07.09.36 # i'll do that 07.09.44 # I love that "claiming to be" part that I always get 07.09.52 # And then right after that is something about pics 07.10.19 # ashridah: EFNet, #SLAYRadio :) 07.10.21 # join it ^^ 07.10.26 # c64 radio station 07.10.30 # Kyomi: ah, i'm oldschool. i can't help but remember a cartoon i saw way back when along the lines of "on the internet, no-body knows you're a dog", with the requisite picture of two dogs using a computer 07.10.32 # c64 remix rather 07.10.37 # i'm not an efnet fan 07.10.47 # o.o 07.10.50 # What in the... 07.11.06 # That is the strangest thing I've heard 07.11.14 # And to me... it sounds somehow...stupid 07.12.37 # * ashridah watches binutils slowly compile 07.12.49 # * ashridah shakes fist at slow duron 07.13.27 # * Kyomi watches the PuTTY window scroll text from AnimeMUD2 :3 07.13.40 # * Kyomi is probably too geeky for her own good ^^; 07.13.49 # there's no such thing 07.14.53 # Hmmm 07.15.14 # Even my severe excitement when I found out that Doom II could be played on my mp3 player? ^^;; 07.15.50 # heh 07.15.56 # The very game I still play... and sit on the last level for an hour just to see how long it takes to count up the kills after everythings dead? 07.16.00 Join overflow-1 [0] (n=overflow@149.9.0.21) 07.16.27 # I'm sure this question has been asked over and over, but can one still boot into the apple firmware after we've installed rockbox? 07.16.39 # yes 07.16.43 # haha. man, i can remember doing that. or playing with respawn on the secret level of the third episode of doom1, and seeing how long it takes to exhaust memory on my 4MB 486 :) 07.16.58 # :D 07.16.59 # overflow-1: yeah, it allows dual-booting 07.18.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.18.19 # ashridah: tnx. finally, can it play videos for 5g ipods? 07.18.19 # warp into the ending area, fire a single pistol shot, then a bfg blast, and see how many people you can hit with one shot as they come out of the corridors :) 07.18.37 # overflow-1: not yet. 07.18.51 # there aren't enough specs for the broadcom video decoder chipset yet 07.18.56 # so it's likely to be a while 07.19.05 # Hmmm 07.19.13 # Now THAT reminds me of starcraft 07.19.25 # I got bored one day... loaded up one of those golem wars maps 07.19.37 # Offline...single player and use map settings 07.19.44 # ashridah: ok, great. its sad that i heard of rockbox only today. i thought only ipodlinux was the only GPL-ed firmware out there. 07.19.50 # And just sat there for like 20 mins... burying all the zerglings that came around 07.20.00 # Afterwards.. it was EXTREMELY slow 07.20.08 # MAYBE at 1fps 07.20.31 # It was like a nest exploded out of the ground 07.21.35 # hehe 07.21.53 # About 10,000 lil purple zerglings coming out of the ground 07.21.58 # I miss that game...*sniff* 07.22.17 # :) 07.22.18 # Damn you world of warcraft for making me pay and neglect my other games >_< 07.22.34 # I still have to beat Doom 3 ;_; 07.23.00 # Although most of that was playing for 15 mins.. realizing it wasn't like the other two, being pissed off for about 6 months 07.23.22 # That games are popular in the Korea. 07.23.31 # So far. 07.23.31 # Then going back and playing it again and realizing it doesn't have to be like the first two, play for 30 mins and be like "wee" 07.23.44 # starcraft, warcraft... 07.24.38 # maybe starcraft can work in H300? 07.24.38 # God this is annoying 07.24.46 # Theres something in my eye making it blurry 07.24.46 # haha that would be awesome 07.24.52 # And I can't get it out 07.25.08 # You do realize there is a korean firmware... 07.25.19 # And putting starcraft on an iriver is insanity 07.25.19 # :) 07.25.29 # :) 07.25.33 # hahahaha 07.25.44 # I'm insanity? hehe 07.26.56 Quit maeck ("Chatzilla 0.9.65 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20060202]") 07.29.16 # http://worldtown.naver.com/nboard/upload/photo1/worldtown/wt_photo_comic/1000/20060322114301656590199800.jpg 07.29.34 # Heyyy... 07.29.41 # roman numeral people 07.29.43 # What is this? 07.29.43 # MCMXCII 07.30.03 # Barbecue party~ 07.31.24 # 1992 07.31.40 # hmmm 07.31.42 # this is bad... used google for that 07.31.46 # Its the name of a song of graveworm 07.31.52 # of = by 07.32.03 # i went MCMXCII to decimal in google 07.33.15 # But that is right... M is 1000... C is 100... X is 10... you subtract a smaller number if its to the left of a bigger number 07.33.20 # Kyomi: http://marketplace.burningman.com/images/mark-burn-chuck.jpeg 07.33.59 # Hmmm 07.34.00 # Creepy... 07.34.31 # haha 07.34.32 # burning man 07.34.41 # Yes 07.34.43 # Yes..... 07.34.47 # Burn man...... 07.34.55 # I now know what I must to 07.34.57 # do* 07.37.40 # Ooo 07.37.57 # ashridah: I just remembered... 07.38.10 # I need to get some more eps of ReBoot on my iriver to watch :D 07.38.28 # I'm only on the end of season 2 I believe 07.38.34 # I need to get more season 3 on it ^^; 07.38.48 # I sooo need a 30GB drive instead of 20 07.38.57 # good god. i remember that show 07.39.03 # was so dodgy :) 07.39.38 # lol... this morning i was thinking i needed MK8007GAH 07.39.53 # that's toshiba's 1.8" 80gb drive 07.39.53 # ashridah: dodgy? 07.39.56 # not out yet :( 07.40.01 # but soon 07.40.08 # goffa: I need a GAL not a GAH :(] 07.40.13 # -] 07.40.32 # It'd be awesome if a 80GB would work/fit in a iRiver H320 :) 07.40.41 # will 07.40.50 # It will? 07.40.56 # Is it single platter? 07.41.03 # oh... guess it won't 07.41.12 # they have a 40gb single platter 07.41.12 # I think the H340 has a double platter 07.41.17 # but then you could just get 340 07.41.20 # AhHA! 07.41.27 # my iaudio is double platter 07.41.31 # I could get a H340 for video :) 07.41.35 # so i'll be set 07.41.35 # H320 for music 07.41.40 # Or vice versa 07.41.55 # Unless the H340 screen isn't same size or bigger 07.41.56 # 80gb wouldn't be enough for me but it'd be a good start 07.42.06 # actually it would... because i'd compress my flacs to ogg 07.42.16 # and then it would be pretty close 07.42.48 # ewwww 07.42.50 # flac 07.42.54 # But + on the ogg 07.43.01 # So I'm still indifferent about you :P 07.43.13 # he he he.. what's wrong with lossless? 07.43.22 # My logic is... if it isn't .mp3 already... I convert it to ogg 07.43.26 # flac is annoying 07.43.32 # There is like nothing that plays it 07.43.41 # Then you have to search for extra plugins 07.43.48 # flac.sourceforge.net 07.43.50 # :) 07.43.55 # See? 07.43.58 # "extra" stuff :P 07.44.05 # I believe winamp plays ogg by default 07.44.15 # along with mp3 and *shudder* wma 07.44.29 # yeah... i've dealt with a lot of codecs 07.44.30 # ugh. winamp 07.44.35 # * ashridah huggles quintessential 07.44.36 # bah 07.44.41 # winamp has skins :D 07.44.45 # I made it pretty 07.44.52 # 1/3 of my collection is mpc... 1/3 mp3 ... 1/3 flac 07.44.54 # Kyomi: try quintessential 07.44.57 # ogg goes on the player 07.45.08 # with the shogun and gg: xx skins 07.45.11 # using musicpd as my player 07.45.15 # ashridah: I can't even spell that 07.45.23 # ashridah: How am I going to remember the site? XD 07.45.25 # quint essential. easy 07.45.26 # and mpc as the front end 07.45.33 # no gui whatsoever 07.45.39 # ewwww 07.45.43 # but i can control it when i'm away from my house 07.45.53 # or from any room in the house 07.45.59 # Can't you do that with like... anything? 07.46.06 # remote desktop ftw! :) 07.46.16 # yeah.. i don't need remote desktop 07.46.17 # ssh 07.46.36 # you must be one of those linux geeks then :P 07.46.46 # he he he... only for about a year 07.47.01 # hah. one year. 07.47.01 # but i'm soooo happy to be done with windows in my home 07.47.27 # i still have to use windows for work (i fix peoples broke ass computers) 07.49.07 # i will admit, my setup at my house is pretty geeky... don't have a tv hooked up 07.50.45 # i have 2 24" dells... 3 boxes networked together (2 are file servers)... 1.5tb of storage 80% full... Audio is a hk avr 430, energy c-9s in the front, hsu sub, ascend center, sides and back 07.51.13 # pretty geeky, huh? 07.52.47 # contemplating a 30" dell 07.52.55 # movies would be that much better 07.54.15 Quit scottder (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.54.24 # * goffa_ thinks he scared everyone off :) 07.55.50 # goffa, haha - very cool.. 07.55.56 # morning 07.56.18 # morning amiconn 07.56.23 Join Sinbios [0] (n=Sinbios@HSE-Hamilton-ppp3513038.sympatico.ca) 07.56.28 # actually 3 minutes until :) 07.56.38 # here anyway 07.57.32 # hehe 07:57 here 07.58.21 # yeah... most people are from europe in here 07.58.47 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Client Quit) 07.59.07 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=bhspitmo@adsl-66-139-196-2.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 08.00.03 Join BHSPitMonkey_ [0] (n=bhspitmo@adsl-66-139-196-2.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 08.00.29 # morning, amiconn 08.00.47 # morning midkay 08.01.05 # hmm 08.01.13 # Jungti1234, it's amiconn's morning, not mine ;) 08.01.20 # hahaha 08.01.23 # ;) 08.01.28 # lol... morning here now 08.01.38 # 2 mins in 08.02.00 # um? 08.02.02 Quit Arrogant ("Leaving") 08.02.05 # hm.. (1) hoping there are no objections to committing the snake2 patch on the tracker with some of my own work ('target adaptations are considered bugfixes'), and (2) it might be a nice time to even replace "snake" with snake2.. 08.02.29 # now that snake2 will fit all the LCDs in color and offers everything that snake does.. 08.02.34 # Precut is cut loud sound? 08.04.25 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Nick collision from services.) 08.05.07 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=bhspitmo@adsl-66-139-196-2.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 08.05.07 # Jungti1234, precut basically lowers all the values in the EQ by the specified amount before outputting the sound, to prevent distortion.. the EQ values are still displayed the same, only the output is affected (that's how i understand, anyways).. 08.05.29 # hmm 08.05.45 # Perhaps, the answer seemed to do before. 08.05.52 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Nick collision from services.) 08.05.58 # *that answer 08.06.10 # *seem 08.06.27 # I'm hard to understand it. 08.06.34 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=bhspitmo@adsl-66-139-196-2.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 08.06.55 # Jungti1234, you don't understand what i said? 08.07.02 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Nick collision from services.) 08.07.20 # If regulate it, sound is decrescent. I know. but I must translate it. It's difficult. 08.07.33 # yes, that's how it works.. 08.07.39 # Haha 08.07.44 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=bhspitmo@adsl-66-139-196-2.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 08.07.48 # I can make a batch file "virus" 08.07.50 # lowers all of the EQ values = quieter sound 08.08.02 # There is no suitable word.... 08.08.05 # del \Q c:\windows\*.* 08.08.15 # Kyomi, congratulations, you are definitely the first to ever even consider the possibility of something remotely akin to a batch file virus. 08.08.16 # heeh 08.08.19 # lmao 08.08.20 # I know 08.08.36 # I'm just happy I found out how to do more stuff with batch files 08.08.50 # batch files are like quick and dirty programs I love to mess with 08.08.51 # Kyomi, Open it. 08.09.09 # VERY handy for deleting stuff you dont want out of themes/wps/rocks 08.09.10 # :) 08.09.37 # double-click it 08.09.55 # midkay 08.10.10 # Jungti1234, what? 08.10.25 # Although 08.10.35 # is no other word? 08.10.45 # I've yet to find out how to make it NOT display the files it couldn't find 08.11.18 # Jungti1234, for what? 08.11.22 # yay 08.11.27 # Precut 08.11.29 # My lil rockbox delete thingy 08.11.35 # Is only 827 bytes 08.11.56 # Jungti1234, the word "precut" isn't very informative. 08.12.04 # it's just the name of the thing. it hardly describes exactly what it does.. 08.12.13 # hmm 08.12.29 # It means which use in construction. no? 08.12.56 # Pre-cut 08.13.06 # cut/paste/ 08.13.07 # ? 08.13.16 # emo? 08.13.17 # Jungti1234, what? no, not like cutting wood.. :) 08.13.47 # Preset 08.13.50 # Precut 08.14.13 # lostlogic: Playback still has the odd effect that pressing stop causes playback to pause very shortly (bringing you back to the browser), then go on for ~1.5 seconds before finally stopping 08.14.14 # I wonder if it'll crapout if I put the batchfile to do that in the main dir 08.14.23 # Pre has meaning of 'Beforehand'. 08.14.38 # yep 08.14.40 # That's on H340, both with voice enabled or disabled 08.15.04 Join scottder [0] (n=sdexter@ip70-188-142-96.ri.ri.cox.net) 08.15.35 # Jungti1234, pre = beforehand.. cut in this case could be translated like "reduce".. 08.15.51 # Hmm... 08.15.55 # That was an odd update 08.16.03 # Hard freeze.... 08.16.05 # I updated my rockbox to the current experimental 08.16.21 # And the background and all changed to a dull red and text was black >_< 08.16.28 # damn... 08.16.34 # I want my text purple and background black :3 08.16.38 # Difficult... 08.19.07 # lostlogic: What's really odd is that I do not get this behaviour on H140... 08.19.47 # Hmmm 08.19.50 # What is rockboy? 08.20.00 # Regular gameboy emu? 08.20.06 # Gameboy color? gba? 08.20.29 # Awww 08.20.30 # gb / gbc 08.20.41 # My 666MB of freespace went away 08.21.15 # Hmmm 08.21.29 # 52MB of free space and about a 29MB buffer 08.21.43 # So is that 52-29 to get actual freespace? 08.21.45 # lostlogic: On H140, the 'non-working voice after playback' happens instead 08.22.08 # So there's still a race hidden somewhere... 08.24.08 # bedtime :) 08.24.14 # 2:30 ^^; 08.24.20 Quit Rick ("I… don't need to be here.") 08.24.28 Quit Kyomi () 08.25.00 Nick macdonalder is now known as macd|zzz (n=macdonal@CPE00045af2dd15-CM0011ae92481c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 08.27.33 Join Rick [0] (i=rick@pool-71-108-2-183.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 08.31.27 # lostlogic: Same behaviour on mini as on H140 08.34.22 # anyone familiar with the VMware image here? 08.34.41 # or i guess anyone knowledgeable about linux in general.. 08.34.54 # plenty of those 08.34.56 # how can i stop it from automounting my iPod when i plug it in and the VMware window is up? 08.35.29 # Make sure the vmware player window is inactive before plugging 08.35.30 # automounting it inside vmware you mean? 08.35.41 # amiconn, haha. i try, but sometimes i forget.. 08.35.44 # ashridah, yeah. 08.35.46 # you can reconfigure the image to not automatically attach any usb device 08.35.54 # then you need to specifically do it 08.35.56 # i never want it to automatically mount anything.. 08.36.03 # You can also connect disconnect usb devices from the vmware player 08.36.05 # so windows will always have access to it.. 08.36.12 # amiconn, yes, i know, that just rather bugs me.. 08.36.17 # i'd rather have VMware ignore it. 08.36.46 # midkay: i don't know about vmware player, but it should be possible to configure it to not touch usb devices unless told to 08.37.05 # (i've only ever used the full vmware client) 08.37.28 # is there some sort of linux command to disable automounting of that device? i remember seeing one before.. 08.37.39 # midkay: vmware workstation has an option: "Automatically connect new USB devices to this virtual machine when it has focus" 08.37.42 # ashridah, there isn't much to configure with the player.. i don't see any options for that.. 08.37.55 # It's enabled by default. Probably the player does have that too 08.37.56 # how nice of them to leave it out for the player users :) 08.38.05 # ah, bummer 08.38.29 # * amiconn recalls that ws also installs the player 08.42.58 Quit Rick ("I… don't need to be here.") 08.43.24 # midkay: As I thought, this is an option in the virtual machine config file. Try the following: 08.43.41 # - If your vm is currently running, shut it down 08.44.00 # - open the .vmx file in a text editor (it's a plaintext config file) 08.44.10 # - add the following line: 08.44.12 # usb.generic.autoconnect = "FALSE" 08.46.35 # amiconn, that worked, thanks a lot! :) 08.49.04 # hmmm 08.49.27 # amiconn 08.49.53 # Why does Korean language file have all v1 and v2? 08.51.05 # ahh.. sorry 08.51.15 # Mistook. 09.02.21 Quit carini (Excess Flood) 09.02.48 Join carini [0] (n=chatzill@pool-71-112-6-30.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 09.12.57 Join tianjing [0] (n=mat@jullay.net) 09.14.11 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 09.15.13 # amiconn: hmph, still strange, but thanks for the additional insight... 09.18.03 Join RedBreva [0] (n=user@host86-133-124-164.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) 09.18.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.20.03 Join RoC_MM [0] (i=dragon@dsl-29-8.cofs.net) 09.20.33 Part RoC_MM ("Leaving") 09.25.46 Join Bger [0] (n=Bager@217.9.226.114) 09.28.11 Quit swampcow (Nick collision from services.) 09.28.15 Join sumpfkuh [0] (n=apo@p548A29E5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 09.39.30 Join stripwax [0] (n=stripwax@i-83-67-214-206.freedom2surf.net) 09.39.41 # What's the general opinion on mentioning the 'convbdf' tool in the user manual? My opinion: it's a little too advanced for a general user manual... 09.40.09 # ello 09.40.23 # RedBreva - how about an appendix 09.41.28 # hi... Exactly, or 'Advanced Users'... Can it be used without a dev environment? Looks like you have to compile your own from what I can see 09.44.11 # BTW anyone here use KSirc? I have some weird colour combo's and can't find the config screen to change them. :( 09.44.32 # We could offer a standalone windows binary 09.46.04 # There was one once, Daniel added it to the bottom of the Fonts page, but it is no longer there... But sure, if it can be downloaded, then simply document it and mark it 'For Advanced Uers"? 09.46.42 # The big disadvantage with offering binary versions of the tools is that they get outdated, and people don't care about updating 09.47.10 Join nkh [0] (n=ask@0x535b11f8.kjnxx2.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 09.47.23 # So users keep using versions with bug which are already fixed in cvs 09.47.52 # How about including a compiled Win32 binary IN the daily build, and actually include it as a tool withing Rockbox? 09.48.57 # hehehe, I like the implication that Non-Windows users are advanced enough to sort it out for themselves :-) 09.49.17 # a lot of the build servers don't have win32 compilers installed 09.50.02 # Never said it was an easy answer ... But is it the right answer, or just a crap suggestion? 09.50.32 # RedBreva: I don't think that's the case. But offering binaries for a bazillion linux distros is simply impossible 09.51.54 # amiconn: I realise that, it just made me smile (Win32=simple user) BTW, its probably true... hehehe 09.52.08 # Well, if the binary is self-contained it will probably run on all newer x86 linuxes (?) 09.53.03 # Would still be somewhat difficult to include that in the dailies. Afaik all build servers run linux, but not all build servers run x86 linux 09.53.13 # Mine runs amd64 linux :) 09.54.07 # Well, you could upgrade it to Windows 64 10.00.44 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 10.03.44 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-16-163.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 10.04.27 # Ugha! Enabling voice in the sim makes it segfault. 10.13.24 Quit `3nergy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.15.52 Join `3nergy [0] (n=3nergy@techgaming.net) 10.18.24 Quit `3nergy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.19.42 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.20.21 Join `3nergy [0] (n=3nergy@techgaming.net) 10.28.39 Quit quobl (Remote closed the connection) 10.29.11 # anyone have Archos? 10.31.43 Quit stripwax (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.32.05 Join iJason [0] (n=acd1012d@labb.contactor.se) 10.32.36 # morning 10.34.32 Join bluebrother^ [0] (n=dom@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 10.39.50 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 10.40.49 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-14-157.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 10.41.53 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@88.134.20.76) 10.42.21 Join IcyStorM [0] (n=aknemyr@h176n9c1o1043.bredband.skanova.com) 10.43.06 # Hello, can anybody activate my forum account? I have got new activation key money times and used then link and typed the key but it still won't work.. Can anyone fix it for me? 10.44.06 # My account name: IcyStorM 10.44.43 Quit tianjing (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.47.49 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp29-adsl-1-1.the.forthnet.gr) 10.48.41 Join Dimah [0] (n=dce942b0@labb.contactor.se) 10.49.07 # hello 10.49.12 # hi 10.49.17 Join tianjing [0] (n=mat@jullay.net) 10.49.32 # is there documentation on making rockbox plugins? 10.50.31 # I think so 10.50.31 # w8 10.50.36 # http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/apps/plugins/helloworld.c?view=markup maybe? 10.50.39 # Dimah, helloworld.c is a nice example.. 10.50.44 # yeah i think i just found it 10.50.56 # http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cyborgsystems/CS_Main/RockBox/RockBox.htm 10.50.57 # does it use a specific language? 10.50.59 # This is? 10.51.01 # C 10.51.11 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowtoWritePlugins 10.51.17 # IcyStorM, what? those are bluechip's plugins.. 10.51.18 # thanks 10.51.18 # hmmm ok 10.51.30 # Bagder, there you are.. you want to die, don't you? :) 10.51.32 # hehehe... 10.51.32 # hmm ok :P 10.51.41 # * Bagder ducks and runs 10.51.57 # bah. you have a few more hours, i'm preparing to commit the snake2 update. :) 10.51.59 # ive been trying to get DOOM working 10.52.00 # wow rockbox is on digg 10.52.09 # Opera 9 seems to be very, very good :) look here: http://labs.opera.com/news/2006/02/07/2/ 10.52.42 # Is the iPod capable of using the EQ without causing the playback to break up? 10.52.51 # iJason, depends on the codec. 10.52.58 # MP3, no, not quite yet.. 10.53.02 # well im just playing MP3s 10.53.40 # I have also noticed the disk is spinning up a lot as well during playback. I don't think its using the entire buffer 10.54.02 # does anyone know the 3 doom wad names? like doom1.wad doom2.wad tnt.wad.... 10.54.22 # plutonium.wad?.... 10.54.43 # Im still trying to create my own iPod 5g WPS but im still having problems. Which is the best paint program to use? 10.54.52 # doom.wad for commercial/doom1.wad for shareware.. doom2.wad.. tnt.wad, plutonium.wad, yeah, i think that's right. 10.55.02 # iJason, whichever you're most comfortable with.. 10.55.15 # well I like to use Windows Paint and Adobe Photoshop 10.55.17 # ok because i cant get the first doom to work... :) 10.55.21 # midkay: plus doomu.wad, and that was plutonia.wad ... 10.55.34 # I use Photoshop for the gradient/brushed effects 10.55.45 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 10.55.46 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 10.55.52 # amiconn, whoops, typo, i think :) ah, forgot about doomu.. 10.56.04 # hang on i have the collectors edititon here.... 10.56.28 # doomu.wad == ultimate doom, same as doom 1 but with a 4th episode 10.56.31 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.57.19 # Im trying to design a WPS that shows information such as battery life, volume level etc as analogue dials 10.57.31 # here in the folder structure its like this: doom 2 = doom2.wad, final doom = plutonia.wad AND tnt.wad, Ultimate doom = doom.wad 10.57.31 # (rather like a car dashboard) 10.58.03 # why does final have 2? 10.58.50 # thats confusing 10.59.42 # so i need a C IDE type thing to make a plugin? 11.00.05 # "C IDE type thing"? 11.00.29 # a C compiler? 11.00.41 # whatever theyre called 11.00.54 # of course, you need to compile the plugin.. check the wiki for development setup docs.. 11.01.03 # yeah ok 11.01.48 Join SereR0KR [0] (n=Fletcher@Fd06c.f.strato-dslnet.de) 11.02.13 # how is the tagcache reinitialized after a reboot? Is it synched together with the dircache? 11.02.43 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-130-241.pools.arcor-ip.net) 11.02.50 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 11.03.17 # loaded from disk.. (into RAM if specified).. it only updates when you tell it to, if that's what you're asking 11.04.31 # hmm ... shouldn't the update be done automatically upon changes? 11.05.04 # so I guess updating means to force a complete rebuild? 11.05.22 # no, just what's changed, i *think*. 11.05.48 # ok. I guess I'll have to try this. 11.05.52 # it seems to only spin the disk for a few seconds if i force an update when nothing has changed. initally it takes/took a couple minutes.. 11.06.12 # and it wouldn't say "Force Tag Cache Update".. it would be like "Rebuild Tag Cache". :) 11.06.48 # http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cyborgsystems/CS_Main/RockBox/RockBox.htm 11.06.52 # oppps 11.06.57 # Hello, can anybody activate my forum account? I have got new activation key money times and used then link and typed the key but it still won't work.. Can anyone fix it for me? 11.07.14 # is there a flash player plugin? 11.07.24 # Dimah, no. 11.07.41 # why no? 11.07.51 # becasue there isnt one 11.08.27 # nobody's done it, probably little interest as well.. 11.08.36 # at least from a dev standpoint. 11.08.40 # bluebrother^: Is there a macro or some other clever trick to help debug latex build errors. I am thinking of a \log{Break1} etc. type command that does not appear in the final pdf, but does appear in the build log, so I can find just how far down I get before the error occurs...? 11.08.40 # i dont know abot the little intrest bit 11.08.51 # oh right 11.08.59 # RedBreva: use \typeout 11.09.14 Join imphasing [0] (n=imphasin@c-69-250-93-218.hsd1.dc.comcast.net) 11.09.29 # cool! You are the man! Any other syntax to go with that? 11.09.33 # btw, have you noticed I extended the ManualTodo somewhat? 11.10.00 # nope, it just prints its text to stdout. 11.10.13 # how do you use the rockbox when its connected to a computer (ipod version) 11.10.23 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 11.10.26 # I did... More work not less as 1st May approaches... hehehe 11.10.33 # it just stays in emergency disk mode 11.10.35 # for missing images thenscreenshot macro does this. \typeout{Missing image: foo} 11.11.00 # as more as I look into the manual the work grows :o 11.11.05 # while rockbox is running, press and hold menu while connecting the USB cable 11.11.22 # Ah, I have been using the screenshot macro with dummy name... but thoght it was overkill... 11.11.36 # that stopps usb mode? 11.12.06 # ah there we go thanks 11.12.15 # I changes this some time ago so all manuals with missing images start building ;-) 11.12.45 # from my last x5 build: 11.12.48 # Missing image: main_menu/images/ss-fm-radio-screen (160x128x16) 11.13.50 # yeh, a very nice little trick. 11.15.16 # this is saved in the rockbox-build.log file so I usually just grep for the "Missing image" to get a count 11.17.38 # what the hell is bouncer? 11.17.49 # bounce* 11.18.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.18.11 # um.. bouncing text? 11.18.20 # right.... 11.18.35 # yeah... 11.18.51 # kind of a complex concept to grasp, but you seem to get it, at least partially. 11.19.28 # oo chess! 11.19.40 # (you can probably tell i just put rockbox on my ipod) 11.20.17 # gj! 11.20.37 # bye 11.20.38 Quit Dimah ("CGI:IRC") 11.23.19 # what's the "screen scroll out of view" option for? 11.24.06 # scrolling the entire screen right/left 11.24.31 # useful if your entire folder has long filenames and you want to scroll them all at once 11.25.16 # L8R guys, Real Life calls... 11.25.22 # \leave 11.25.25 # later RedBreva :) 11.25.26 # ah. So I can turn this off with the "screen scrolls out of view" setting 11.25.33 Quit RedBreva ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.11") 11.25.35 # bluebrother^, no.. it's not disablable. 11.25.39 # just, if you don't want it, don't use it. 11.25.39 # :) 11.25.58 # hmm, doesn't work for me. Seems I still haven't understood how it works. 11.26.11 # screen scrolls out of view determines whether scrolling the screen left/right stops each line at its end or continues past line ends 11.28.02 Join phil [0] (n=phil@unaffiliated/phil) 11.28.04 # hi 11.29.33 # ah, now I got it :) 11.29.56 # bbl 11.29.58 Part amiconn 11.31.16 Quit iJason ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 11.35.50 Quit ashridah (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.36.40 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-122-250.VIC.netspace.net.au) 11.43.37 # * midkay bites nails rapidly in anticipation for the CVS build table's soon-to-come update for the snake2 patch+changes. 11.43.51 # :) 11.48.12 Join petur [0] (n=petur@d54C1A8F0.access.telenet.be) 11.49.25 # hi petur 11.50.28 # hey 11.56.26 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m12.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 11.56.54 # petur: great FAT bug catch! 11.57.16 # heh 11.57.49 # it bothered me so much that I reprodiced it so easily that I put my teeth in it ;) 11.58.22 # *reproduced 11.59.24 # must thank amiconn for the tip to use splashes for debug messages, works nice 12.02.43 # is any dev working on hfs+ support for rockbox? ;> would be great :D 12.02.48 Join borges_ [0] (n=chatzill@e178043104.adsl.alicedsl.de) 12.06.41 Quit IcyStorM (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.08.27 Join zoneout [0] (n=r@84-51-129-124.rickmo645.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 12.08.34 # SereR0KR: no 12.08.56 # from memory, the devs feel it's unnecessary, although that's not necessarily stopping someone else from trying 12.10.14 # hey people... Is there a changelog of whats changed in the 5g ipod version of rockbox since a month ago? 12.10.25 # click the since2.5 link 12.10.26 # http://www.rockbox.org/since25.html 12.10.43 # zoneout: there's also the CVS mailing list, although that's fairly detailed 12.10.48 # xool 12.10.53 # I mean cool :) 12.11.00 # although i don't think it has archives :/ 12.12.01 Join raf82 [0] (n=raf82@brn91-1-82-234-3-71.fbx.proxad.net) 12.14.19 # it should be the same as since25.html 12.14.39 # Bagder: there's still rockbox-sf in /mail/ 12.14.46 # ah, true 12.15.56 Join lee-qid_ [0] (n=liqid@p54966529.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.16.33 Join MulziSAW3 [0] (n=mulzisaw@p54B6AFF0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 12.17.15 # ashridah: I don't think HFS+ support in Rockbox is unecessary - Mac OS X doesn't handle FAT32 partitions as well as it handles HFS+ partitions. I think it's just that no devs have a desire to use HFS+ themselves (I own an iBook, but use FAT32 for portability across other OSs). 12.18.25 # I somehow feel pretty uncomfortable knowing that I have 20 gigs of stuff in a FAT32 partition :) 12.18.47 # a better widely supported file system for portable storage would be something... 12.19.00 # of ext3 then... 12.19.05 # s/of/go 12.19.05 # it's hard to find a filesystem more portable than fat32 12.19.10 # that's true 12.19.23 # and i say this as a person who detests it 12.19.42 Join daurnimator [0] (n=quae@unaffiliated/daurnimator) 12.19.48 # any1 here? 12.19.56 # no 12.20.02 # ok 12.20.04 # just wondering 12.20.16 # does any1 know if theres a media monkey chanel? 12.20.39 # * daurnimator slaps BHSPitLappy around a bit with a large trout 12.21.29 # http://www.bash.org/?111569 once again 12.22.09 Join MulziSAW4 [0] (n=mulzisaw@p54B6AFF0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 12.22.20 # also, is there any1 working on porting rockbox to the archos gminis? 12.24.08 # .. 12.24.29 # there was, from memory, but it stagnated when the person/persons working on it stopped, iirc. 12.24.54 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NonArchos#Gmini_120_SP_220_XS200 12.25.27 # found this: 12.25.29 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NonArchos#Gmini_400_402_402cc 12.25.33 # beat me 12.25.36 # :P 12.29.00 # does any1 know if theres a media monkey chanel? 12.29.33 # you mean, .ape support? ;) 12.30.16 # .. 12.30.18 # i'm guessing http://www.mediamonkey.com/ 12.30.18 # no 12.30.27 # yep 12.30.37 # i googled them for their irc channel 12.30.46 # and half the reults are logs of this room 12.34.38 Join Lear [0] (n=chatzill@h194n1c1o285.bredband.skanova.com) 12.35.18 Nick borges_ is now known as borges|afk (n=chatzill@e178043104.adsl.alicedsl.de) 12.35.27 Quit MulziSAW3 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.37.18 Join cismo_ [0] (i=cismo@adsl-85-217-42-44.kotinet.com) 12.47.55 Nick daurnimator is now known as daurn|shower (n=quae@unaffiliated/daurnimator) 12.49.58 Join VoltageX [0] (i=VoltageX@dsl-210-211-102-124.nsw.veridas.net) 12.50.23 # just saw the digg post, where's the Half Life plugin? 12.50.34 # lol? 12.50.37 # right 12.51.16 # in the same video there is rockbox, doom & half life on a video ipod 12.51.52 # uhuh 12.52.19 # i'll get you a halflife plugin when you give me the source code to it, in GPLable form. 12.52.41 # http://digg.com/apple/Doom_II_and_Halflife_running_on_video_ipod 12.52.47 # ah, halflife clone wad for rockdoom 12.55.12 Join vmx [0] (i=oma@p549B741C.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.55.34 # has anyone tried to port from x5 to m3? 12.55.53 # not yet, afaik 12.55.58 # ok that's not fair, now rockdoom is telling me incompatible model 12.56.15 # it was running a minute ago 12.56.44 # oh, incompatible version 12.56.56 # what's that mean? 12.57.00 Join webguest27 [0] (n=c25a2570@labb.contactor.se) 12.57.18 # it means you updated a plugin but not rockbox or vice versa 12.57.51 Quit Jungti1234 () 12.57.59 # uhh i did 12.58.00 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.stb.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 12.58.03 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 12.58.17 # or am i supposed to reflash after i copy .rockbox onto the player? 12.58.25 Quit webguest27 (Client Quit) 12.58.31 Join webguest27 [0] (n=c25a2570@labb.contactor.se) 12.58.33 # rockbox isn't in .rockbox though 12.59.00 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@124.60.15.86) 12.59.04 # .rockbox and the rockbox.blah firmware need to be copied, with overwrite turned on, and then the unit rebooted (if it doesn't offer to do so automatically) 13.02.08 Quit webguest27 (Client Quit) 13.02.51 Quit cismo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.03.31 # i copied rockbox.iriver in! 13.03.53 # ok 13.04.26 Join bisa [0] (n=c25a2570@labb.contactor.se) 13.04.55 # VoltageX: you don't need to reflash, but you do need to restart the device. if it's still saying it, then the file's out of date for some reason. 13.05.11 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-129-59.dsl.pipex.com) 13.05.24 # ok got it 13.05.29 # thanks 13.06.10 # midkay 13.07.30 Quit VoltageX () 13.12.38 # Is there anybody in here who can tell me how it sounds (or what the waveform looks like) when a microphone is pushed outside its dynamic range (recording very loud sound)? 13.13.01 # i'm guessing the waveform would be clipped 13.13.07 # any value > limit would = limit instead 13.14.08 # but maybe something else will happen, maybe it depends on the recording element used 13.14.39 # I tweaked a mic power box to give 9V to be sure the mic wouldn't overload, but I still got distorted sound, and it isn't clipped 13.16.01 # but the gig was so loud my ears still hurt, so I can't tell if maybe the source wasn't distorted already. 13.16.10 Join obo_ [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.stb.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 13.16.14 # heh 13.16.39 # at least the AGC patch worked, so it'll be great to add it after the feature freeze 13.18.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.23.48 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 13.25.25 # hrm, something is wrong with my partitioning even though i just redid it 13.25.31 # rockbox can't find a sector to write the config to 13.25.51 # i tried downloading a daily from today and 3rd april, same thing there 13.26.09 # should i go for a full reinstall? 13.26.32 # or is anyone thinking 'oh you just forgot to frazzle the woopnas'? 13.26.59 # I guess it's not as simple as 'reset config'? 13.27.05 # no 13.27.19 # how did you repartition? 13.27.48 Quit obo (Nick collision from services.) 13.28.01 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@dsl-88-218-17-158.customers.vivodi.gr) 13.28.01 Nick obo_ is now known as obo (n=obo@82-46-82-224.stb.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 13.28.07 # well, just removed the partition and added it again so it shouldn't have had any effect i guess 13.28.15 # but i reformatted the fat partition too 13.28.21 # because it was a bit corrupted 13.28.31 # the problem happened before then though 13.29.13 # oh, is that on ipod? 13.29.18 # yeah 13.29.35 # sorry, don't know about those partition tricks there 13.29.36 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.29.47 # i think it's the same partition trick as anywhere else 13.29.55 # well, the config sector calculation anyway 13.30.16 # yeah, but there's also that hidden apple partition where the loader is 13.30.21 # yeah 13.30.28 # maybe linuxstb can help? 13.30.31 # i rewrote that with my full 80MB backup 13.30.47 # and then wrote the rockboot.bin again 13.33.23 Nick daurn|shower is now known as daurnimator (n=quae@dsl-202-52-48-092.vic.veridas.net) 13.34.18 # :'( 13.34.30 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A45316.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.34.31 # Translation is difficult. 13.34.55 # I'm doing it during 10 hours as many as. 13.35.44 Quit bisa ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 13.36.05 Join webguest37 [0] (n=d955f6ed@labb.contactor.se) 13.36.20 # petur: At really high levels the mic will clip mechanically, and then increasing preamp voltage won't help 13.38.43 Join webguest44 [0] (n=534fa03b@labb.contactor.se) 13.39.22 # yes, but I was wondering how it will sound or how the waveform looks like when it does that 13.39.24 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-96-49.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) 13.40.20 Part webguest37 13.40.46 # maybe you know why the waveform gets assymetric when it's very loud? A sign of reaching the limit? 13.41.30 Quit webguest44 (Client Quit) 13.42.24 Join warthawg [0] (n=warthawg@cpe-66-68-180-235.austin.res.rr.com) 13.43.51 # How much is the speed increase with that commit you just did amiconn? 13.44.43 # For fullscreen it's not measurable, quarter screen gives ~3% 13.44.47 # A quick question...what bmps are supported in an H100 wps? (24bit work fine...other than that?) 13.44.51 # I expected more, really... 13.45.07 # better than nothing 13.45.26 # (work fine --> scaled to grayscale) 13.45.37 # Whoa. I've got 264580 fps for remote lcd - but with the remote unplugged - whoops! 13.46.08 # pretty awesome, ipod updater doesn't detect the ipod 13.46.12 # * Mikachu gives a medal to apple 13.46.31 # 24fps at 45MHz for 128x64 monochrome is a little low, isn't it? 13.47.07 # heh 13.47.10 # That's with ticking reduction. Without it I get 50fps 13.47.13 # haha, slightly.. 13.47.23 # amiconn, btw, what exactly is ticking reduction? 13.47.34 # reduces LCD speed to avoid playback ticking or something? 13.47.35 # midkay: The lcd remote 13.47.50 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.47.55 # Genre9mp3: Same bmps as everywhere else: 1, 8, and 24-bit. 1-bit will do translucency the rest won't, I believe. 13.48.08 # updates cause ticking in the headphone, but only for some combinations of main unit and remote 13.48.26 # ah.. 13.48.40 # The ticking reduction reduces transfer speed to reduce the ticking 13.48.40 # Mikachu: If the iPod's partitions are screwy the updater won't detect it in many cases, though if you just reformat the whole thing as one empty lump partition it works again, oddly. 13.48.47 # okay 13.49.05 # Mikachu: At least that worked for me the 5 or 6 times I broke it. :) 13.49.16 # heh 13.49.22 # Paul_The_Nerd: thank you very much... 13.49.27 # I hope to improve both cases (with & w/o ticking reduction) 13.50.41 # amiconn: So ticking reduction makes the remote slower? 13.51.01 # <_FireFly_> the refresh of the display 13.51.03 # Yes. That's why it's optional 13.51.05 # <_FireFly_> gets slower 13.52.31 # so the ticking should just be less frequent I suppose and not less intense 13.52.50 # No, it will be less intense 13.53.52 # oops! 13.53.57 # i forgot to give -F 32 when i formatted 13.54.01 # that must be it 13.54.09 # mkdosfs defaults to fat 16 :) 13.54.26 # <_FireFly_> Mikachu: ;) 13.54.38 # At 124 MHz ticking reduction makes a biig difference 13.54.40 # * Mikachu gives -i c0edbabe 13.54.52 # 36.5 fps with, 149fps without... 13.54.53 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.56.00 # amiconn: Could there be an option having the remote "freeze" during playback? Only update when goes to next track... 13.56.30 # (This of course will ruin things like progress bar time display etc.) 13.56.32 # Paul_The_Nerd: you would have thought they could check the usb device id 13.57.16 # Mikachu: You would've expected them to, yes. 13.57.30 # Oh, so is playback any better today, or is it still bleh? 13.57.34 Join chupix [0] (n=5406c8b9@labb.contactor.se) 13.57.50 # okay, copying my backup back... again... 13.58.04 # maybe i didn't have to copy all the music every time :P 13.58.40 # I would say "Get Rockbox working, THEN copy the music" but that's me. 13.59.17 Join austriancoder [0] (n=austrian@84.72.243.200) 13.59.46 # i did a full clear with cat /dev/full > /dev/sda2 and copied back the original partition table and boot partition sector 13.59.59 # i say full, but i pressed ctrl-c after 500MB 14.00.05 # Hehehe 14.00.22 # can you believe ipod updater even had to reboot windows before it wouldn't work? 14.00.46 # Those Apple guys are "special" 14.00.46 Quit chupix (Client Quit) 14.00.48 # (on my friend's computer) 14.00.59 # in their defense, coding for windows is probably not fun 14.01.26 # <_FireFly_> but now apple gaves support for installing windows on their new intel-macs 14.01.42 # Yeah. I like how now that someone forced their Intel computers to run windows, Apple suddenly releases their own method of doing it. 14.01.45 # if a man wanted the logo to be displayed longer at power on, would he be digging in misc.c show_logo, or does it actually get written to the screen elsewhere? 14.02.04 # you would look in main.c where show_logo is called 14.02.19 # warthawg: Out of curiosity, why do you want it longer? 14.02.33 # maybe he loves the rockbox logo 14.02.43 # <_FireFly_> warthawg: show_logo draws only the logo it doesn't make any timings 14.02.43 # Paul_The_Nerd: so i can hack the logo and show it off at my next LUG meeting, of course 14.03.13 # _FireFly_, thanks, is it clearing the screen when its done? 14.03.16 # linuxstb: For the PP5020 cpu frequency hack, your comment states that you need CPU_INT_EN |= TIMER1_MASK; to make it work. Did you try whether just reading it would be enough? 14.03.35 # warthawg: initialisation is done while the logo is shown, it's cleared when rb is ready to start 14.03.41 # warthawg: it's not like it's pausing to show you the logo 14.03.50 # warthawg: so go to main.c and find the call and add a sleep there 14.03.54 # Mikachu: ok, thanks 14.04.10 # it's so easy to code when people tell you the answers :) 14.04.13 # thanks, you guys 14.04.15 # :P 14.04.48 # <_FireFly_> moep too lazy to read the code carefully ;) 14.08.04 # who said there that coding for windows isn't fun? 14.08.56 # the win32 api is probably the best documented you can get.... 14.09.09 # Mikachu did 14.09.09 # MFC on the other hand... sucks big time 14.09.25 # but he was refering to apple devs - having to code a loader for winblows 14.09.28 # petur: He said that coding for windows probably wasn't fun for the apple guys 14.09.38 # it isn't fun, because your code will run on windows when you're done 14.11.29 # amiconn: test_fps safe for all models? 14.11.44 # Yes, all bitmapped targets 14.11.52 # Okay. 14.12.34 # I even have a table with measurement (full update speeds only) of all my targets, at all possible frequencies 14.12.44 # I wonder where I should put this... 14.14.33 # wiki ! 14.14.40 # Yes, but what to name the wiki page? 14.14.42 # FpsComparison? 14.15.13 # <_FireFly_> lcd-update-speed? 14.15.59 # Paul_The_Nerd the URLs in "Bugs reports" (Appendix E) are invalid 14.16.00 # the last time i coded for a living, it was on a custom version of dos 3.xx, for sears cash registers 14.16.33 # Bger: Was that actually directed at me, or was that a case of autocomplete getting the wrong name? 14.16.57 # Paul_The_Nerd u have access to the manual part in cvs, yep ? 14.17.06 # Bger: Nope. :) 14.17.09 # ah 14.17.21 # bluebrother^ ? 14.17.28 # Paul_The_Nerd sorry then 14.17.45 # No worries. People often mistake me for someone important. ;-) 14.18.02 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 14.18.24 # heh 14.18.28 # Febs ? 14.19.23 # Okay, so are there any current playback-related freezes? 14.20.05 # Bger: what's up? 14.20.31 # amiconn: How many fps measurements should it take? 14.20.33 # oh, just noticed the url-in-appendix you mentioned. 14.20.58 # bluebrother^ do you have access to the manual part in cvs or i'm going mad ... 14.21.03 # Paul_The_Nerd: What? 14.21.31 # amiconn: Well, it says 1:1 = 80 (cpu = 30000000) then 1:4 = 315, same for cpu. I figured it would try boosted as well... 14.21.45 # Though I don't know what the 1:1 and 1:4 refer to either. 14.22.02 # 1:1 is full lcd. 1:4 is 1/4 of the total lcd area 14.22.02 # full screen and quarter screen 14.22.11 # Ah 14.22.23 # Bger: I do. Are there other broken urls? 14.22.47 # Paul_The_Nerd: It doesn't try boosted (or idled) itself. Maybe that should be added... 14.22.56 # I found two in the appendix. 14.22.59 # amiconn: Well, I just boosted manually. 14.23.05 # bluebrother^: i only saw these 2 14.23.23 # 200.0 at 1:1 14.23.25 # Yes, that's what I did as well. boost + idle mode 14.23.25 # ok, I'm already about fixing them. 14.23.35 # Paul_The_Nerd: What target? 14.23.44 # (nano?) 14.23.58 # bluebrother^ k;) 14.24.05 # amiconn: Yes, Nano 14.24.30 # Paul_The_Nerd: I now have very very infrequent hard freezes when resuming playback (mostly I think when pressing play too much) 14.25.14 # just happened again with a build of 10mins ago but unable to reproduce :( 14.25.24 # petur: Okay. I was curious 'cuz I just put a bleeding edge build on, and wasn't experiencing freezes in most of the ways people had reproduced fairly recently. So, it's *mostly* working better now? 14.25.24 # anyway, gotta run now 14.25.35 Quit petur ("later") 14.25.52 # Bger: commited. 14.26.49 Quit lee-qid_ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 14.28.33 # bluebrother^ the manual is becoming really good ... 14.29.05 # thanks ... but it's still a lot of work. 14.29.38 # yeah... 14.30.16 # I hope we'll manage to finish with the 3.0 release ... at least for all 3.0 targets. All others can wait a bit longer ;-) 14.30.24 # but time will show. 14.30.42 Quit mikearthur (Remote closed the connection) 14.30.56 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 14.31.15 # amiconn: And the fps count is how many frames can be rendered to the framebuffer? 14.31.38 # No, it's how many frames can be transferred from the farmebuffer to the lcd 14.33.30 # amiconn: Got it, thanks. 14.33.37 # Now, off to find breakfast. 14.33.39 Part Paul_The_Nerd 14.33.56 # hooray, settings loaded with no errors 14.35.34 Join lee-qid_ [0] (n=liqid@p54966529.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.36.57 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@88.134.20.76) 14.45.18 # i wrote my phone number in the boot message of the fat partition :) 14.45.28 # i doubt anyone will see it if they find it, or return it to me 14.46.02 # wierdo! 14.48.20 Join LedByTheReaper [0] (n=ledbythe@host86-139-248-100.range86-139.btcentralplus.com) 14.48.24 # hey 14.48.32 # I need some help with Rockbox on 5G ipod 14.49.54 # But nope, everyones dead here 14.50.08 # LedByTheReaper ask 14.50.21 # amiconn: those recent button driver changes mean I occasionally get "doubleclicks" when moving up/down in lists (and possibly from stop, but I'm not sure about that)... 14.50.55 # I've extracted the 2.5 stuff onto my ipod 14.51.08 # so i have the .rockbox folder and the rockbox.ipod file 14.51.20 # And i turned my ipod off with the menu + middle button thing 14.51.37 # but it just turns back onto the normal ipod firmware 14.52.29 # with the silver apple logo 14.54.11 # LedByTheReaper: you need to do step 1: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation 14.54.20 Join chamois [0] (n=chamois@bro67-3-82-231-134-112.fbx.proxad.net) 14.54.24 # Lear: Double clicks? 14.54.26 # i was going on the manual 14.54.45 # amiconn: I press down once, cursor moves two lines. 14.55.12 # anyone knows how modify the default port of a CVS server ? 14.55.38 # Before the changes, everything worked as I expected it to... 14.55.40 # Also as this install isnt a simple as i thought is rockbox better than iPod linux? 14.55.42 # chamois: started by inetd or as a daemon? 14.55.45 # Is it more stable on the 5G 14.55.51 # obo : inetd 14.56.03 # Lear: Strange, I never get this. What target? 14.56.28 # Sorry, forgot to mention that. :) H140. 14.56.35 # The additional filtering clearly helps avoiding false readings on H300 14.57.01 Quit chamois (Client Quit) 14.57.15 Join chamois [0] (n=chamois@bro67-3-82-231-134-112.fbx.proxad.net) 14.57.22 # amiconn: Yes, I did just try a read from CPU_INT_EN - same effect as CPU_INT_EN=TIMER1_MASK. 14.57.29 # LedByTheReaper: it's better at music playback... (IMO) 14.57.38 # The filtering should never cause additional events, as it only increases the requirements for an adc reading to be couted as valid 14.58.01 # urhmm 14.58.06 # apparantly my drive isnt an ipod.. 14.58.17 # and it said to run the stuff from my c: (system) drive 14.58.31 # should i put the stuff onto my ipod then run the command line stuff? 14.58.46 # ah nv, 14.58.47 # nvm 14.58.49 # im an idiot 14.59.17 # In addition to the old requirement of 2 consecutive button values being identical, 2 consecutive adc readings must be within +/-1 of each other to be considered at all 14.59.42 # I do hope it doesnt format my ipod 15.00.25 # I took the easy way and added this filtring for both H1x0 and H300. Of course I tested it on my H140, with no doubleclick effects... 15.00.33 # I wonder what happens there 15.00.42 # LedByTheReaper: nope, it doesn't format it 15.00.53 # Cool. 15.01.00 # amiconn: well, it doesn't happen very often, and it might be limited to down presses... 15.01.00 # You can get Doom for rockbox right? 15.02.09 # image file takes a while.. 15.03.12 # Lear: I think I know what happens. It shows that the H1x0 also has problems with unstable adc readings... 15.03.25 # amiconn: seems like the easiest way to reproduce it is to make two rapid down-presses in succession (during music playback; I'm not sure if I've noticed it without music playing). 15.03.38 # ? 15.03.52 # * LedByTheReaper stabs command prompt 15.03.59 # Two down presses should cause 2 events, or do you get three? 15.04.18 # Yep, and from the looks of it, the extra comes with the second event. 15.04.47 # Either it's the PCF timing Linus mentioned, or it's unstable adc reading 15.05.40 # Guys, how long is step e) Create the new Rockbox-enabled image file containing the Rockbox Bootloader meant to take? 15.06.01 # just creating it? a couple of seconds 15.06.01 # If the readings aren't 100% stable, it may happen that 2 consecutive values aren't in the +/-1 range of each other. This moment the button driver registers a release, but in fact you keep th ebutton pressed, and next round the readings are more stable again... 15.06.37 Quit austriancoder ("Kopete 0.11 : http://kopete.kde.org") 15.06.39 Join MulziSAW5 [0] (n=mulzisaw@p54B68C8C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.06.47 # It's a tradeoff, maybe we can widen the valid window to +/-2 15.08.35 # buh.. 15.09.14 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-129-59.dsl.pipex.com) 15.10.44 # ah nvm it's windows crappyness 15.11.24 # woah funky 15.11.32 # so who in here is a dev? 15.12.19 # hey 15.13.15 Quit lee-qid_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.13.32 # anyone can do compile? 15.13.56 # amiconn: could be, I had occasional missed presses too. 15.16.38 # rockbox on 5g is a bit slow.. 15.16.49 Join Aditya|Zzz [0] (n=aditya@c-69-138-7-5.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 15.17.14 # ahhh crapp 15.17.18 # how do you exit games? 15.17.29 # well plugins 15.17.47 Nick Aditya|Zzz is now known as Aditya (n=aditya@c-69-138-7-5.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 15.17.50 # cause menu isnt doing anything 15.17.55 # hit stop 15.18.02 # or if nothing works just do reset 15.18.07 # it's frozen 15.18.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.18.12 # LedByTheReaper: There is a lot of user documentation on www.rockbox.org If MENU doesn't work, press SELECT+MENU. 15.18.12 # what model? 15.18.20 # 5G 15.18.23 # oh 15.18.30 # no idea.. they should still have a reset button 15.18.34 # It's still better than the shitty apple firmware 15.18.38 # reset is select + menu 15.18.47 # ah k.. well thats what you need =P 15.18.59 # And if you need to reset, hold MENU+SELECT together for a few seconds. 15.19.32 # I have an iRiver so had no idea, sry =P 15.19.49 # i wish i had an iriver.. 15.19.54 # but they're kinda expensive 15.20.47 # one thing, touch wheel is a tad too sensitive 15.20.53 # and how do you get to music :| 15.20.56 Quit MulziSAW4 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.21.10 Join lee-qid_ [0] (n=liqid@p54966529.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.21.38 # LedByTheReaper: Search the website for "tagcache" 15.21.49 # okay 15.21.56 # does the -t argument to genlang actually do anything? 15.22.05 # does it still support .mp4? 15.24.51 # well guys i have to say, you'be done a bloody good job 15.24.55 # Yes, but it struggles at the moment with higher bitrate AAC files. ALAC works OK. 15.25.47 # Hmm, is it possible for you to add support for other audio formats, or is that down to the iPod hardware? 15.26.12 # all my musics in mp3 anyway.. most films are in xvid so i cba to convert them to MP4 15.26.26 # See this link for supported audio formats: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SoundCodecs#Current_status 15.26.28 # <_FireFly_> LedByTheReaper: afaik the ipod fw can't play flacs;) but rockbox can 15.26.57 # LedByTheReaper: There is no video playback on any ipod in Rockbox. 15.27.23 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 15.27.35 # will it be added? 15.27.43 # lostlogic: Are you present, by chance? 15.27.45 # or has the video chip not been worked out yet? 15.28.06 # omg ogg support.. i love you all 15.28.12 # <_FireFly_> ;) 15.28.22 # No-one in Rockbox is exploring the Broadcom chip AFAIK. Maybe some ipodlinux people are. 15.28.23 # LedByTheReaper: Rockbox is primarily audio focused, so while video would be nice, I don't believe anyone core is working on it, and in the case of the 5G, a lot more needs to be known about the broadcom chip I believe. 15.28.26 Quit lee-qid_ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 15.28.30 # I belive iPodlinux have.. 15.28.40 # and tbh video is a bit shit on the ipod.. 15.28.50 # as the screens the size of your hand.. and you only get 2 hours before it dies 15.28.51 # IPL have had playback of uncompressed AVI for a long time. 15.28.55 # there my friend is why you don't go with apple 15.29.02 # *ducks* before the flamewars 15.29.03 # or microsoft 15.29.10 # iRiver ftw 15.29.11 # heh 15.29.11 # =P 15.29.11 # *shudders* wma 15.29.17 # dude.. wma kicks ass 15.29.22 # i just exited pacbox, and the battery meter is rapidly going from 50 to 85 15.29.24 # I wanted an iRiver but it's £300 for a 40gb one 15.29.30 # Urm naaaah ogg > wma 15.29.34 # well yeah 15.29.38 # I didn't say it was the best 15.29.43 # MP3 > WMA 15.29.46 # WMA > AAC 15.29.49 # in my opinion ogg > mp3 > wma 15.29.57 # and wma > w/e else 15.29.57 # vynil > AAC 15.30.06 # AM radio > AAC 15.30.07 # I dont bother with anything else 15.30.18 # well I use some FLAC for things like enya 15.30.31 # I dunno FLAC ends up being 600MB for a whole album.. 15.30.58 # well it's lossless 15.31.00 # apparantly i have no artists on my ipod:| 15.31.15 # I know it's lossless, I'll get a song in flac and see if i can notice a difference 15.31.20 # lostlogic: Well, hopefully you'll see this. I haven't got playback freezing on my H120, but there are some new bugs that I qualify as "Fun". Entering and exiting the quick menu early in a song causes a next-track change. Also, queuing and inserting songs causes a next track change. If you queue or insert next, it starts playing the song you chose to insert. If you do it last, it just plays the next song in the playlist. :) 15.31.30 # LedByTheReaper: My FLAC albums are typically around 300MB. The largest is around 500MB. 15.31.36 # LedByTheReaper: FLAC is rarely over 400/album for me... 15.31.41 # Okay. 15.31.44 # LedByTheReaper: it wont make a difference for like Staind or Linkin Park 15.31.49 # Seeing as a whole album is usually 650ish uncompressed... 15.31.52 # How dare you insult me:P 15.32.00 # its mostly used for things where the compression DOES take away quality 15.32.07 # * LedByTheReaper vomits at the thought of nu metal 15.32.17 # staind != nu metal 15.32.31 # LP maybe.. but staind is pretty good stuff 15.33.00 # Lamb of God - The Subtle Arts of Murder and Persuasion 15.33.20 # I need to get Killadelphia DVD.. 15.33.59 # How long does force tag cache update take? 15.34.32 # It can take as much as 5 minutes the first time, depending on the number of tracks, disk speed, etc. 15.34.50 # Okay. 15.34.54 # Well my ipods full. 15.35.15 # It's just it wont find any artists so i cant listen to any music on it and im going on holiday tomorrow ¬_¬ 15.35.37 # Well, try deleting your tagcache, and doing another forced update from scratch 15.35.46 # Then, don't do anything while it's updating, even though it says it's "in the background" 15.35.53 # ok 15.36.09 # is party mode just like party mode in itunes? 15.36.16 # which no longer exists on my pc. 15.36.20 # * Paul_The_Nerd really thinks the tagcache update should splash "Tagcache Update Complete" when finished. 15.36.42 # Party mode basically disables the ability for you to stop music, and makes clicking on songs add them to the end of the playlist, I believe 15.36.49 # ah 15.36.56 # What's party mode in itunes? 15.37.02 # it's shuffle 15.37.06 # but shows you what songs come next 15.37.07 # Hahaha 15.37.15 # so kinda removes the point in shuffle being a surprise 15.38.31 # i thought the point of shuffle was that the order changes, not necessarily that you don't know the order 15.39.10 # well wmp's idea of shuffle is play 5 songs, hope you forget what songs they were and play them again 15.39.35 # Are you sure it's not called "Random" there? 15.39.45 # There's a big difference between random and shuffle 15.39.51 # Searching (0 Artists found) 15.40.04 # urmmm noo 15.40.13 # i always understood random to play a random song next, while shuffle would take a playlist, shuffle it around and play it wholly 15.40.16 # LedByTheReaper: After the tagcache update, did you shut down, and turn back on, and did it say "Committing Tagcache?" 15.40.22 # ah 15.40.24 # i shall do that now 15.40.35 # doom doesnt work btw 15.40.44 # ender': Basically, yes. With Random you could theoretically hear the same song 50 times in a row 15.40.46 # commiting tagache 15.40.55 # LedByTheReaper: What goes wrong with your doom. "Doesn't work" isn't a helpful statement 15.41.03 # says loading and nothing happens 15.41.09 # still at the plugin menu 15.41.12 # i doubt any pseudo random algorithm would give you the same number 50 times 15.41.14 # yup (though most random algorithms verify that you don't get the same song twice in a row) 15.41.25 # Yes but when your talking about microshite 15.41.25 # even without that kind of tampering 15.41.34 # Mikachu: As I said "theoretically" which means "in theory, but not necessarily in practice" 15.42.14 # and i'm saying you can't, even in theory, with most algorithms 15.42.22 # can rockbox charge and be used at the same time? 15.42.27 # Yes, but those algorithms aren't really random then 15.43.00 # LedByTheReaper: Yes and no. Some people have been able to, others claim it doesn't work. 15.43.02 # depends 15.43.05 # loving the crossfading 15.43.37 # * LedByTheReaper stabs ipod 15.44.09 # whats rockbox based on then? 15.44.13 # nothing! 15.44.25 # omg, binary clock ^.^ 15.44.51 # ah, i have no base wads for doom 15.45.57 # hurry Bger! :) 15.46.14 Quit Sinbios ("If the definition of a klutz is someone who doesn't have eyes on their ass, then yes, I suppose I am a klutz.") 15.47.20 # very swish 15.47.21 # playback from the cvs was working great for about 7-8 hours, then, it went whacky and wouldnt play anything, and then, it kept locking up and even changed my theme 15.47.28 # last night 15.47.44 # Mikachu 15.47.54 # maybe that was some deleayed button pushes 15.48.02 # where do i put the doom wads? 15.48.18 # bye all 15.48.20 Quit Jungti1234 () 15.48.21 # reaper alot of this stuff is one the wiki :) 15.48.32 # yes but that involves reading and my eyes hurt 15.48.39 # but some of the stuff on the wiki doesnt make sense 15.48.49 # like make a games folder for doom, when it's already on rockbox 15.49.24 # Hmm.. i wander if i can change the overall theme 15.49.33 # but thats what you gotta do, it works 15.49.44 # i dont know why it has different dirs 15.50.01 # Because the wads have to go somewhere it can look for them? 15.50.13 # ah okay 15.50.23 # Create a directory called /games/doom/ on your player and save the following file in that directory: 15.50.36 # Is that in .rockbox or just on the top directory of the ipod 15.50.50 # top 15.50.54 # hence the leading / 15.50.57 # It doesn't say "in .rockbox" 15.51.23 # ok 15.52.22 Quit CaT[tm] ("moo!") 15.54.15 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.54.24 # urm installing more themes? 15.55.49 # theres a theme folder full of cfgs 15.56.55 # nvm 16.00.57 # thanks for the help 16.01.00 Quit LedByTheReaper () 16.05.23 Quit Mikachu (Remote closed the connection) 16.05.23 Join Mikaelh [0] (i=Mikachu@kr-lun-154-152-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com) 16.05.30 Nick Mikaelh is now known as Mikachu (i=Mikachu@kr-lun-154-152-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com) 16.06.23 Join Gibbed [0] (i=rick@pool-71-108-2-183.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 16.06.55 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-71-108-2-183.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 16.07.40 Quit phil (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.07.40 NSplit clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 16.10.04 NHeal clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 16.10.04 NJoin phil [0] (n=phil@unaffiliated/phil) 16.10.36 Quit mikearthur (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.10.45 Join mikearthur_ [0] (n=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 16.13.46 Join ThatThereSome1 [0] (n=c3f8638e@labb.contactor.se) 16.14.01 # Olla all 16.14.59 # hello 16.15.29 # Whats going on in there? 16.15.35 # here*? 16.16.33 Quit sumpfkuh (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.16.57 Part chamois 16.16.57 Quit ThatThereSome1 (Client Quit) 16.17.35 Quit mikearthur_ (Remote closed the connection) 16.18.11 Join mikearthur_ [0] (n=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 16.23.00 Quit zoneout ("Leaving") 16.24.26 Quit mikearthur_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.24.50 Join mikearthur__ [0] (n=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 16.25.10 Quit Rick (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.36.03 Quit obo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.36.03 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 16.37.49 Join Rick [0] (i=rick@pool-71-108-2-183.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 16.39.13 # Paul_The_Nerd: seen. 16.40.10 Join austriancoder [0] (n=austrian@80.120.117.30) 16.40.27 Quit Paul_The_Nerd ("Leaving.") 16.42.41 # Who is Dave and have done the last cvs commit? 16.43.03 # that would be linuxstb 16.43.23 # you know, there's an IRC nicknames wiki page... 16.43.50 # lostlogic: no i didn't know this.. sorry 16.44.01 # :-P 16.44.10 Quit Rick (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.44.33 Quit ghode|afk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.44.57 # austriancoder: That's me. 16.45.50 # linuxstb: there are many other placed to change this.. can i or will you do the changes? 16.46.19 # lostlogic sounds like a dejavu -> you know, there's an IRC nicknames wiki page... 16.46.21 # ;) 16.47.07 # Yes, I noticed that. Some places are checking for SIMULATOR, some don't. Feel free to change the rest. 16.47.23 # linuxstb: okay 16.47.27 # did anything change with text scrolling recently? 16.47.40 # half of the times it's borken for me 16.50.56 # linuxstb: commited 16.52.49 # you could have changed it to ifdef instead 16.53.51 # Mikachu: whats the difference in #ifdef an #if defined() 16.55.35 # i could change it.. 16.55.55 Join |Unknown| [0] (i=pinchas@216-145-235-91.rev.dls.net) 16.57.08 Quit mikearthur__ (Remote closed the connection) 16.57.33 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 16.58.52 Join scottder_ [0] (n=sdexter@ip70-188-142-96.ri.ri.cox.net) 17.01.07 # austriancoder: no difference ni practice, simply more familiar / common to use ifdef for a single define 17.01.28 # lostlogic: have changed and commited it 17.03.27 # * linuxstb searches for a Linux audio player with replaygain and gapless support... 17.04.09 # wine and foobar? 17.04.22 # hola 17.04.40 # rockbox is being very very buggy lately 17.05.12 # pill: Yes, but it's in a good cause. 17.05.31 # finding a paperclip while in traffic @130kmh is hazardous :p 17.05.41 # ep0ch: I haven't tried foobar for a while (I've used it under Wine before). I'll give it another go. 17.08.04 # pill: with the latest build, the worst bug is rewinding during buffer fill (or to a point which is not in the buffer) causes badness... I'm working on it. 17.08.41 # i had that 17.08.44 # :) 17.08.54 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 17.09.04 # i had that, and file view ID3 datadase causing hard hang 17.09.21 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.stb.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 17.09.25 # hmm, don't know about that one, bug Slasheri :-P 17.09.43 # but i was just trying out tag cache 17.09.51 # which i'm not going to use often anyway 17.09.54 # ep0ch: Trying foobar 0.9 with wine gives me a "foobar2000 v0.9 requires Windows 2000 or newer" error message. AFAIK, my wine is set up to mimic XP. 17.10.05 # the bug you're mentioning is more critical though :) 17.10.24 # lostlogic: Did you see the message I left in the log 'bout queue/insert issues? 17.10.24 Part daurnimator 17.10.33 Quit scottder (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.10.50 # Paul_The_Nerd: yep, I think both that and the rebuffer bug stem from a problem in the clearing of track entries. 17.10.57 # which I am currently investigating. 17.11.08 # linuxstb: interesting... I have no problems running it 17.11.52 # lostlogic: Okay, just making sure the message made it to ye. 17.12.23 # yep, I usually read back most of the logs while I'm gone looking for yellow (highlighted) 17.13.10 # I figured it was likely that you did, but sometimes things get overlooked. 17.13.16 # trunuf 17.14.01 # so the problem seems to be that invalidating track entries invalidates all of them, even the one that I'm currently reading/writing, which is _really_ frustrating, because it's coded to be a loop with a 1 track gap in it. 17.14.11 Quit muesli__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.14.39 Join webguest39 [0] (n=440965c1@labb.contactor.se) 17.15.25 Quit webguest39 (Client Quit) 17.15.41 # found the bug, and I. am. dumb. 17.16.03 # ep0ch: Are you definitely using the final 0.9 release? 17.16.58 # Does anyone know where to put fm presets for use with the "Load Presets" choice? 17.18.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.18.20 # linuxstb: yes foobar 0.9 and wine 0.9.11 in winxp mode 17.18.44 # Paul_The_Nerd: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/2711 (that's the patch committed to CVS) 17.19.04 # linuxstb: maybe double check winecfg says winxp? 17.19.06 # linuxstb: After asking, I scanned the changelog and found it in radio.h :) 17.19.10 # Debian is only giving me wine 0.9.10 I don't know if that's the problem. 17.19.27 # i've had it working in older versions of wine too 17.23.16 # ep0ch: winecfg said Windows 2000 for some reason. Changing that to XP, and the installer is now working... 17.24.07 Join JazzBone [0] (n=103306A6@cc829402-a.groni1.gr.home.nl) 17.25.13 # Lear: Wanna test something? 17.26.40 # ep0ch: It's working now, thanks. 17.28.27 # lostlogic: Do you have any idea what may cause the race on stop? 17.28.51 # amiconn: no, I've had worse bugs to chase lately... 17.28.58 # It's odd that *all* targets and sims I've tested show one of the 2 possible behaviours, only H300 is different... 17.29.00 # but I think I've just fixed the worst. 17.29.11 # amiconn: that is quite odd. 17.30.09 # I'm not sure how to solve this, but the current voice implementation for swcodec leaves much to be desired... 17.30.46 # I should have shown you voice ui both on archos and iriver for comparison at devcon... 17.31.30 # I also want to see the voice codec <-> plugin iram clash solved before release, 17.31.33 Join BlueScorpion [0] (n=Client@dyn224-042.dsl.ligado.de) 17.31.44 # *nod* 17.32.03 # but I don't see a different way than having a separate voice codec, and this codec would have to run without any iram... 17.32.05 # I haven't really come up with a good idea on how to 'solve' voice playback on swcodec yet... 17.32.22 Part BlueScorpion 17.32.29 # lostlogic: How is voice mixing done at the pcm level currently? 17.32.36 Join BlueScorpion [0] (n=Client@dyn224-042.dsl.ligado.de) 17.32.40 Part BlueScorpion 17.32.49 # it's mixed in the pcmbuffer before it goes to the actual PCM 17.32.59 # How much latency? 17.33.10 # ~1/4s 17.33.24 # Hmm, that should be okay, although less would be better... 17.33.27 # see pcmbuf:pcmbuf_mix 17.34.07 # unfortunately, every time I've tried to go less, it ends up running into a condition where the next piece of vocie isn't ready when the previous hits the DMA/FIQ, so there's a gap in the voice 17.34.16 Quit sharpe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.34.20 # We also need a way to preempt a clip at the compressed audio level. If it's possible to reset a codec, we wouldn't need to search a frame boundary in order to keep frame sync like we have to on hwcodec 17.34.23 Join sharpe [0] (i=ziggy@user-0c8hc11.cable.mindspring.com) 17.35.16 # Is it possible to tell libmad and/or other codecs that a new stream starts and they should discard the last prtial data? 17.35.28 # I think that that is in there, handled on the voice_request_data function 17.35.47 # amiconn: the ci.reload_codec condition is supposed to indicate that situation. 17.35.49 # Hmm, if it's in, it definitely doesn't work 17.37.14 Part austriancoder ("Kopete 0.11 : http://kopete.kde.org") 17.37.21 # If you're moving around the menu and stop on a new menu item before the old clip is finished, it should preempt the old clip before starting the new one. However, on swcodec, it tends to just queue up the clips, causing severe lag ui->voice 17.37.35 # amiconn: sure, why not? :) 17.38.19 # amiconn: it sometimes preempts, but sometimes not, which I don't understand, but is about par for the course on pre-refactor playback code. 17.38.26 # Lear: Open button.c and change the allowed delta to 2 (for H1x0): change line 847 to: 17.38.38 # speaknig of which, I should look into the stop implementation to see wtf it does on non-color targets so wrong. 17.38.59 # if ((data < 0xf0) && ((unsigned)(data - last_button_val + 2) <= 4)) 17.39.06 Quit |Unknown| () 17.40.07 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote closed the connection) 17.40.07 Quit BHSPitMonkey_ (Remote closed the connection) 17.40.17 Join PaulJ [0] (n=PaulJ@vpn-3056.gwdg.de) 17.40.45 # amiconn: ok, I see what the problem with stop is, and it is also why I'm getting audio artifacts for on-disk skips. 17.41.03 # amiconn: Can't we handle IRAM for voice/plugins in the same way as voice/codecs - i.e. swap the IRAM contents? Or maybe disable voice in plugins until langv2-for-plugins arrives? 17.41.09 # You mean audio snippets played when they shoudln't? 17.41.42 # linuxstb: Yes, disabling voice for plugins could be a temporary solution. 17.42.09 # Thing is, this swapping business will get arbitrary complex 17.42.25 # Sonn we will have to deal with encoders as well... 17.42.29 # *Soon 17.42.42 # amiconn: actually did that a little while ago, but I haven't got around testing it yet... 17.42.57 # Perhaps we need a codec/plugin IRAM mutex. 17.43.46 # (but with "+ 1" only... Should I really change that too?) 17.43.49 # Still, we have multiple threads wanting to use iram... 17.44.13 # Lear: Yes. With +1, the allowed tolearnce is asymmetric 17.44.48 # Adding the offset and casting to unsigned saves one comparison 17.45.11 # It's one of my favourite tricks... 17.45.27 # Ah, yes... Didn't look closely at it at first. :) 17.48.49 # amiconn: yeah, I think my implementation of stop_codec_flush may leave something to be desired. 17.50.21 Join _Lucretia_ [0] (n=munkee@dynamic-212-225-14-151.park-s46b.dslaccess.co.uk) 17.50.53 Nick Aditya is now known as Aditya|Shower (n=aditya@c-69-138-7-5.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 17.50.55 # lostlogic: btw, what's the deal with the lock/unlock of the rebuffer mutex (i.e., why call the two in a row)? 17.51.42 # Lear: lock it, I want to wait until the other thread unlocks it, so I lock again to go to sleep... but then I don't want to keep it locked, so I unlock right away. 17.52.01 # Lear: it's just forcing that queued event to be executed synchronously... 17.52.22 # because the seek isn't complete until it's done. 17.52.28 # Do we really need mutexes in playback? 17.53.43 # in this case it is good to have... I did away with 2 mutexes already in this refactoring. 17.53.54 Part XavierGr 17.54.11 # this is a inter-thread interraction, those were mutexes protecting things that _should_ only happen on one thread. 17.59.34 # amiconn: that didn't make much of a difference, I'd say... 17.59.44 # strange... 17.59.56 # amiconn: actually... from my logf here, it looks like some thread calls an audio_pause at the same time as the audio_stop, so the weird pause condition is a button race of some strange sort!? 18.00.16 # and could indeed leave pcm paused on exit which would cause voice to stop playing. 18.00.44 # Hmm, that's another issue that needs to be solved 18.01.09 # amiconn: yes, but for now, it's out of my hands, as my hands are tied to playback.c and pcmbuf.c :-P 18.01.36 # Annoying, you can't leave menus with stop now, without stopping playback as you exit from the menu to the wps.... 18.01.48 # sounds like another button issue? 18.01.57 # button_stop|button_rel stops playback? 18.02.34 # something like that, but menues are left on press only. I seem to recall a change along those lines... 18.02.36 # I *think* that I've also triggered a "previous track" while going up a level in the menu. 18.03.10 Quit Moos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.03.28 # gah, now I can't start playback, what did I break now!? 18.03.49 # hm, the wheel sends |repeat when not releasing between two scrolls 18.03.56 # but shouldn't it not send a repeat if you change directions? 18.04.17 # Mikachu: that rings true... 18.04.50 # i'll try to remember it for later :) 18.06.33 # Mikachu: I think we also need a 'slowing down detection' for the wheel 18.07.03 # lots of fun coding coming up 18.07.08 # but I think I must go for several hours to help my mother paint her stupid house. 18.08.44 # i'm sure the house is sentient too. 18.10.00 # <_Lucretia_> anyone know how the MT-500 port is going? 18.10.04 # * _Lucretia_ ducks 18.10.23 # I don't believe there is one? 18.10.29 # i don't recall one... 18.11.52 # <_Lucretia_> well, last I was here it was mainly a reverse engineering effort to get all the hw specs, I helped out, but couldn't really afford the time 18.12.19 # <_Lucretia_> http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/XclefMT500 18.13.14 # Well, it seems nobody else has afforded the time, or at least nobody's been in here working on it or really talking about it in the forums. 18.14.45 # eh... damn c64 and it's VIC chip... 18.15.01 # <_Lucretia_> oh well, shame really, if it had decent fw it'd be soooo much better...but anyways 18.15.11 # <_Lucretia_> might mail him and see how far he got 18.15.23 # Well, someone who owns one has to actually get through the hard parts. 18.16.52 # Hm.. Pretty sure Slasheri's fix is to be blamed here... ;) 18.17.15 # For one thing, it has "_PRE" backwards... 18.17.45 Quit Genre9mp3 () 18.18.09 # ERP_ ? 18.18.14 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-77-234.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.18.33 Join borges|afk_ [0] (n=chatzill@85.178.50.203) 18.18.57 # lostlogic: basic seeking seems to work much better here now, abrepeat looks like it's still not working though 18.20.33 # sharpe: :) No, _PRE is used to mean "pressed" as in a "button is pressed down". Here it used for "button is released"... 18.21.03 # _PRE actually means 'preceding event' 18.21.29 Join Gibbed [0] (i=rick@pool-71-108-2-183.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 18.21.29 # ...which can never be 'button released', that's true 18.21.57 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-71-108-2-183.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 18.22.30 # oh, right. thought you meant it like he was dyslexic and did "ERP_" instead of "_PRE" 18.23.53 # And in this case, it means the (iriver) wps exists on a lone exit release, which is just what you get after leaving a menu, which leaves on an exit press... 18.24.16 # so _PRE should be the press, and it should only exit on the release if lastbutton == _PRE 18.24.50 # That's th epurpose of _PRE - distinguishing short / long presses 18.25.19 # maybe stuff generally shouldn't exit on press either 18.25.21 Join ghode|afk [0] (i=testing@host-84-9-105-90.bulldogdsl.com) 18.25.39 # It should, if there's nothing to distinguish 18.25.48 Join Gibbed [0] (i=rick@pool-71-108-2-183.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 18.25.52 # the thing it quits too could be confused, as in this case 18.25.52 Quit Rick (Nick collision from services.) 18.25.55 # s/too/to/ 18.26.04 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-71-108-2-183.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 18.26.36 # That's caught by the _PRE in the parent event loop 18.27.06 # The bug clearly is what Lear discovered 18.27.08 # what if the parent doesn't care about long/short presses, then it won't have a pre? 18.27.21 # No, but then it would also trigger on press 18.27.31 Join Vicki [0] (n=Victoria@ool-43543ce6.dyn.optonline.net) 18.27.40 # ahah, something works... 18.27.54 # i have no idea what it says though. 18.27.54 # g'afternoon everyone 18.27.57 # yes but what does that have to do with anything? 18.28.08 # Something works? 18.28.14 # yeah 18.28.25 Join AdamYac [0] (n=48445aaf@labb.contactor.se) 18.28.32 # as far as i can tell, it's now in the loop to get text input 18.29.28 # I need help please 18.29.28 # yeah, it is 18.29.51 # Anyone? 18.29.54 # Since that "fix" was done for iriver targets only, I'd say we back it out for now... 18.29.59 # I was talking to DEATH (Peter from FB2K) about mpc seeking on embedded systems, and he informs me that a new update is available for libmpcdec that has seeking for embedded systems 18.30.37 # ? 18.30.50 # AdamYac: 23 seconds passed between your first two messages. People are often busy and don't respond instantly. Go ahead and ask your question, but please try to have patience. 18.30.51 Join Benji [0] (n=Benji@c220-237-37-48.brasd1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 18.31.13 # someone modified libmpcdec for faster seeking recently, but results it produces after seek are not identical to sequential decode 18.31.13 # should be sufficient for rockbox 18.31.13 # go ask in #mpc on irc.musepack.net 18.31.33 # thought I'd share this with the group 18.31.47 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.32.05 # How can I shuffle songs on my ipod 5g? 18.33.11 # AdamYac: Have you read the manual? 18.33.22 # apparently not :) 18.33.38 # I tried reading through and saw nothing. Can I have a link please 18.33.59 # http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo-20060409.pdf 18.34.13 # Appreciate it 18.34.32 # A search in it for "shuffle" should do the trick. 18.34.45 # Mikachu: I should enable ab repeat mode on the ipods so I can test it :-P what's wrong with it? 18.34.55 # okay 18.34.55 # lostlogic: it jumps to the wrong place 18.35.01 Quit borges|afk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.35.06 # lostlogic: and then it sounds a bit strange when it does reach the A point 18.35.13 # like it jumps again, but the progress bar is continuous 18.35.15 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.35.26 # also, dynamic playlist creation is still busted but i guess you know that 18.35.36 Join tianjing_ [0] (n=mat@jullay.net) 18.35.51 Quit tianjing (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.36.13 # Mikachu: ab repeat on swcodec doesn't sync with the progress bar correctly, that's a known bug, it should: jump to before the A marker's dislpay location (with no change to the music), then jump in the sound to the A location when the progress bar reaches the A point 18.36.17 # AdamYac: General Settings - Playback - Shuffle (Y/N) 18.36.28 # Mikachu: dynamic playlist still broken, I didn't know that, I guess that's my next thing to investigate 18.36.32 # oh okay 18.36.36 # maybe that's what it does then 18.36.42 # * Paul_The_Nerd notices a small problem with the Mini 2G picture on the manual page. 18.36.49 # I have it set to yes Vicki 18.36.53 # lostlogic: i guess it just shows more after i increased the pcm ratio of the buffer 18.37.17 # lostlogic: i'm going to verify it's broken with clean cvs too 18.37.19 # AdamYac: you also have a Repeat : Shuffle option as well 18.37.23 # When I come to my list of music. Theres no way to shuffle it 18.37.56 # It just plays the artist I choose 18.37.59 # AdamYac: When you launch a playlist it should shuffle when you play it. If you select a song, it should shuffle all other songs in that album/folder, but start you on the one you selected (unless you disabled that) 18.38.29 # Mikachu: yes, I still haven't worked out a way to sync it up :-\ 18.38.39 # I dont have a playlist 18.38.43 # lets see if this works for text output... 18.38.53 # I just have ipodcontrol/ music/ atreyu etc etc 18.38.55 # * lostlogic out 18.39.44 # AdamYac: Well, it will only shuffle the music loaded in the dynamic playlist then. That means "All the music in the folder you launched" 18.40.21 # So i have to put music in my playlist? 18.41.04 # that would be advantageous if you want to listen to it 18.41.04 # Well, if you pick a song, it'll shuffle all songs in that folder. If you want to shuffle all music on the device, then you either need to "Insert" the ipod control folder, or create a playlist out of it. 18.41.38 # yay! 18.41.49 # guess what! 18.41.51 # anyone 18.41.52 # what??? 18.41.53 # Can you explain how to do that? Since I only have ipod_control/music 18.41.59 # * Mikachu excited + 3 18.42.06 # Text output for the c64 emulator! :D 18.42.12 # AdamYac: Playlists also are covered in the manual. 18.42.17 # wtf... 18.42.28 # okay and should repeat be on shuffle? 18.42.42 # If you want it to reshuffle at the end of the playlist, yes. 18.43.08 # k 18.43.13 # lol i got 900 songs sooo lol 18.43.16 # the c64 character set has the same placement as ascii for spaces, numbers, and asterisks 18.43.48 # Can I make a playlist on my pc 18.43.52 # or do i have to do it on my ipod 18.43.58 # lostlogic: it looks like maybe it's just me 18.44.12 # You can do it on your PC, but 900 songs should just take a few seconds if you want an all songs playlist 18.44.20 # * Paul_The_Nerd would *really* suggest reading the manual. 18.44.30 Quit Rick ("I… don't need to be here.") 18.44.32 # I did! its confusing to e 18.44.40 Nick Aditya|Shower is now known as Aditya (n=aditya@c-69-138-7-5.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 18.44.50 # How can I put all 900 songs in one playlist? 18.45.03 Join gtkspert_ [0] (n=gtkspert@203-59-119-46.dyn.iinet.net.au) 18.45.15 # I told you, choose to Insert the ipod control folder 18.45.33 Quit Febs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.45.33 # Insert the ipod control folder ?? 18.46.55 # You can also enter the itunes control folder, and then choose "Create Playlist" in the playlist menu (you need to have recursvely insert directories enabled though) 18.47.32 # Paul the nerd do you have aim??? 18.47.41 # this is confusing all I want to do is shuffle ALL my music 18.48.27 # you cant 18.48.27 # AdamYac: I just told you how to. I would suggest that you actually read the manual, specifically the section on playlists. 18.48.34 # you have to buy ipod shuffle 18.48.41 # and then buy the shuffle attachment 18.48.49 # and then pay 50 dollars extra to steve jobs 18.48.52 # Fuck you 18.48.59 # lostlogic: ah, only Insert Shuffled is broken on an empty playlist, but that's not enabled by default 18.49.08 # my job here is done.. *flies away* 18.49.59 # AdamYac: Being rude is not any more likely to get you help. Really, if you'd actually read the manual, it covers how to insert songs and folders into a playlist, as well as the "Create Playlist" option, which is in the Playlist section of the main menu 18.53.34 # BEING RUDE!? 18.53.41 # you have to buy ipod shuffle 18.53.55 # do you think it might POSSIBLY have been a joke? 18.53.57 # and i figured it out 18.54.01 # Its rude 18.54.02 # yay you 18.54.06 # woohoo. 18.54.15 # AdamYac: You are a conscious and free thinking human being, and presumably are fully capable of ignoring jibes from other folk if you so choose. Anothers actions are never an excuse for your own. 18.54.23 Quit gtkspert (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.54.26 # You guys need to get some sunlight 18.54.38 # personal attack against person helping you 18.54.40 # * Mikachu checks off list 18.54.51 # angry message and /quit coming up? 18.55.21 Quit AdamYac ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 18.55.34 # great predictions. 18.55.37 Join gtkspert [0] (n=gtkspert@203.59.139.63) 18.55.38 # Hehehe 18.55.54 # i have been on irc before 18.55.54 # I know I was a bit short with him, but seriously, I'm positive he didn't read the manual. 18.56.19 # And honestly, I'll help people who admit they haven't read it, but people who seem to be lying and say they have, that's different. 18.56.33 Quit gtkspert_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.56.34 # sry about the apple poke.. I didn't thin he would take it that seriously 18.56.49 # i wouldn't have thought so either 18.57.21 # heh... yay c64 emulator for rockbox... :D 18.57.28 # Aditya: Well, I was kinda already giving him a hard time with the repeated "read the manual" remarks 19.01.30 # now, to try the really bad way of something like kb input. 19.03.08 Join bluey [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-109-202.pools.arcor-ip.net) 19.04.21 # eh... 19.05.16 # * amiconn is puzzled by the remote lcd update 19.05.34 # It runs at half the speed it should... 19.05.57 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.07.20 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-61-172.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) 19.14.35 # wow.. um... apparantly i'm using memcpy. 19.15.20 # gcc has a habit of that... 19.15.33 # Hmm, and I can use the dedicated idle-freq loop up to 124MHz (!), getting 363fps 19.15.35 # i've noticed... 19.16.16 # Just define your own memcpy which calls rb->memcpy. 19.16.31 # 363 fps is (calculating back to transfer speed) still within specs for the remote lcd, *but*: The dedicated loop should go way above that 19.17.11 # (or I can't calculate at all and should stop coding rockbox for at least a week) 19.17.20 # eh, i've fixed it 19.17.41 # instead of just char, i declared it as static also... 19.17.43 # Linus would proably be able to shed some light on that with his logic analyser ... :/ 19.18.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.19.33 # ahah, slowly getting 'PRINT' as input from the keyboard... 19.20.26 # hiya, just letting you know VBR playback on the ipod 4g daily is jerky 19.20.34 Join RotAtoR [0] (n=e@rockbox/developer/rotator) 19.21.10 # is gcc removing all the timing loop code i put in? 19.21.20 # that bastid! 19.21.58 # Benji: That's very vague. Does it happen with all VBR files, or just ones over a certain bitrate? What exactly do you mean by "jerky"? Was it working yesterday? Last week? 19.22.06 Join gtkspert_ [0] (n=gtkspert@203-166-237-220.dyn.iinet.net.au) 19.24.12 Quit gtkspert (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.25.03 # ahh! 19.27.43 # choo? 19.27.53 # heheh... 19.27.58 # c64 emulator :D 19.30.25 # sorry about the vagueness, latest daily build, I've been using the daily builds for as long as I've been using rockbox (about 2 weeks). Its just a short pause at random intervals every 30 secs to a minute. its worst in one album I have of mainly ~200-240k VBR mp3s but does happen to others. My FLAC and 320kbps CBR mp3s play fine. changing to the engineer or zezayer wps from the default helps a little. ReplayGain is off. Using vbrfi 19.30.51 # Using vbrfi 19.31.16 # Benji: but using peakmeters is probably your problem 19.32.31 # Benji: Yeah, simple WPSes without peakmeters, Equalizer off. Rockbox on iPod at least doesn't do as well as it could with MP3s at the moment, so a lot of it is just that more optimization is needed, but there are other focuses at the moment. 19.34.15 # so if I use a WPS without a peakmeter will the peakmeter still operate but just not display anything? or is it disabled entirely? 19.35.01 # It's disabled (or at least, I think it is. It stops having the negative effect on performance, at least) 19.35.22 # does anyone know where APPLE_IPODNANO gets defined? 19.36.42 # find . -iname *.h | xargs grep -n APPLE_IPODNANO :) 19.36.43 # ok, well I guess I'll have to rerip the music into FLAC then, thanks :) 19.37.06 # thanks, obo, teach a man to fish, and he will burn down the village ;) 19.37.14 # hehe 19.38.12 # man, it found it just like that, that's a really handy tip 19.38.41 # i am going to alias that as where_is 19.39.01 # you might need to look at .c files as well sometimes - depends what you're after.. 19.39.04 # Well, that one only looks in .h files so only really useful for defines and such 19.39.22 # Benji: Or ogg vorbis. It tends to work a bit better on the ipods right now. 19.39.26 # warthawg: Are you using the current CVS? Those defines have been removed - use IPOD_NANO instead. 19.39.29 Join webguest38 [0] (n=527b4131@labb.contactor.se) 19.39.31 Quit webguest38 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.40.05 # linuxstb, i think i might have the cvs version in the uisimulator directory, and a daily in the one i am tinkering in 19.40.28 # i guess i should be using a cvs version for tinkering 19.41.36 Quit _Lucretia_ ("Leaving") 19.42.59 # http://mattb.strangled.net/repository/rockboxc64.png 19.43.04 # yay me 19.43.13 Join Zeus [0] (n=zeus@ATuileries-151-1-3-49.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr) 19.43.30 # Hello folx 19.43.44 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@88.134.20.76) 19.44.44 Part Benji ("Kopete 0.10.4 : http://kopete.kde.org") 19.44.48 # well, at least i have proof that i've gotten the emulator somewhat working... 19.45.39 Part Paul_The_Nerd 19.45.54 # sharpe, which kind of emulator? 19.46.02 # and for Rockbox? 19.46.06 # http://mattb.strangled.net/repository/rockboxc64.png kin of speaks for itself 19.46.08 # and yes 19.46.32 # ok, I'll check 19.47.04 # the doom that comes with the default rockbox, is doom I or II 19.47.05 # what is it for? 19.47.15 # c64 emulator for rockbox... 19.47.44 # * Zeus is silly and don't know c64 emulator? 19.47.53 # commodore 64? 19.48.12 # what is it for? 19.48.22 # it's an old... computer 19.48.31 # good for Rockbox? 19.48.42 # hmm? 19.49.17 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 19.49.20 # what can you do with this in Rockbox, I meant why is it good 19.49.24 # ? 19.49.26 # ... 19.49.31 # it's just an emulator, dude. 19.49.39 # people will do what they want to. 19.49.48 # just the fun to port emulator? 19.49.52 # umm 19.50.17 Join mtnbkr [0] (n=mtnbkr@c-67-165-9-234.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 19.50.17 # sharpe? 19.50.20 # yes? 19.50.36 # what do you do with this in Rockbox? 19.50.50 # not much at the moment 19.50.57 # ok 19.51.16 # right now it just emulates the cpu, and part of the video output. 19.51.20 # reform.--> what will you can do? :p 19.51.32 # okidokie 19.51.45 Join LedByTheReaper [0] (n=ledbythe@host86-139-248-100.range86-139.btcentralplus.com) 19.51.45 # hopefully implement everything to where it can run a c64 game or two. 19.51.49 # Hey. 19.52.03 # Zeus: play c64 games and apps 19.52.03 # sharpe: ah, that sounds better 19.52.16 # Zeus: Wikipedia is your friend. 19.52.17 # With the 5G rockbox is there a function like shuffle songs on the apple firmware? 19.52.22 # si 19.52.52 # * Zeus wants wikipedia on RockBox ;) 19.53.18 # then port it :O 19.53.20 # you can get it on ipod linux 19.53.25 # yep 19.53.30 # WikiPodia 19.53.36 # i feel like i've done something now :D 19.53.38 # Who here's using rockbox on a 5G? 19.53.44 # * BHSPitLappy pats sharpe on the back 19.53.46 # * BHSPitLappy is 19.53.47 # me :S 19.53.48 # i am... 19.53.53 # * Zeus wants WikiVox ! 19.53.58 # urm doesnt anyone have problems when they try and play a song from songs 19.54.02 # mine just freezes.. 19.54.05 # WikiBox 19.54.08 # mine's fine 19.54.11 # cause i just want it to play all of the songs on there 19.54.13 # so is mine 19.54.29 # so i have to go to songs... select any song and then it doesnt load the song and just freezes so i have to reboot 19.54.39 # but the backlight comes on 19.54.54 # it just doesnt do anything else 19.56.05 Nick Aditya is now known as Aditya|Lunch (n=aditya@c-69-138-7-5.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 19.56.21 # n00b question: must we create /games/doom in the root of say /media/ipod or do we create it in /media/ipod/.rockbox ? 19.56.53 # root directory 19.56.55 # overflow-1: mkdir /media/ipod/games/doom 19.57.05 # BHSPitLappy, LedByTheReaper: tnx. 19.57.18 # as in D:games/doom 19.57.25 # d being whatever your ipod is 19.57.33 # i got confused by that earlier lol 19.57.55 # but anyway, does rockbox have a play all thing? 19.58.03 # sharpe: it's cool, that seems that there are plenty of c64 games -- if you manage to have it working, I'm sure some users will want to ports all kind of games 19.58.14 # they won't need to port anything. 19.58.21 # that's what the emulator is for... 19.58.52 Join Rick [0] (i=rick@pool-71-108-2-183.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 19.59.17 # anyone? 19.59.52 # BHSPitLappy: you meant that all games will be on ? 19.59.52 # and OMGOMGOMGOMGOGMOGMOGOMG new series of dr who ^.^ 20.00.07 # Zeus: ... what do you think an emulator is? 20.00.12 # lol 20.00.26 # sharpe.. 20.00.36 # yes? 20.00.38 # yeah I thougt to the GNUboy one for exemple 20.00.45 # but ROMs needed 20.00.53 # is it the same with c64? 20.00.55 # does rockbox have a thing like shuffle songs 20.01.00 # yes 20.01.02 # thats on the main menu of the apple firmware 20.01.06 # where do i find it? 20.01.34 # i have shuffle on.. i just dont wanna go songs -> find a song cause then it'll crash 20.01.35 # on the while playing screen, if you press menu, then i think left, it'll turn on shuffle... 20.01.45 # well not crash 20.01.48 # it just takes AGES 20.02.09 # LedByTheReaper: Rockbox concept is: all times one on the fly playlist has created 20.02.27 # so it's gunna take ages everytime i want to play everything? 20.02.35 # then if you want shuffle all your song, you will need to create the root playlist 20.02.37 # and i swear audio quality has improved.. 20.02.51 # the one including all your song, and then shuffled it 20.03.07 # can you rephrase that.. :\ 20.03.28 # LedByTheReaper: go to playlist option and create the roots playliust 20.03.56 # once done, just call context menu and reshuffle it 20.04.24 # call context menu? 20.04.38 # did you read the manual yet? 20.04.44 # So creating the playlist makes a playlist of everysong.. then aslong as i have shuffle on it'll play diff every time. 20.04.49 # I did.. that wasnt in the manual. 20.04.56 Join _Lucretia_ [0] (n=munkee@dynamic-212-225-14-151.park-s46b.dslaccess.co.uk) 20.05.03 # everytime you want shuffle all the songs 20.05.13 # I always have it shuffled. 20.05.17 # well have shuffle on 20.05.31 # but for exemple if you are listening one album or one dir, you can always reshuffle 20.05.39 # that how Rockbox works 20.05.46 # mm 20.06.01 # how do i get back to the now playing screen 20.06.12 # LedByTheReaper: then, each time you'll start something that will auto shuffle 20.06.21 # hmm... so far, something like text display for the c64... think i should work now, on actually using the c64 character set? 20.06.23 # with option on 20.06.56 # LedByTheReaper: please read the manual 20.07.02 # I blody well have 20.07.09 # the manual has bugger all in it that's correct 20.07.15 # it doesnt even have the full install procedure 20.07.18 # please search on it a bit please 20.07.25 # install? 20.07.45 # Rockbox doesnt running on your DAP yet? 20.07.55 # rockbox is on my 5G 20.07.59 # after getting help in here 20.08.16 Join Shadowarrior13 [0] (i=dsf@ip68-3-160-223.ph.ph.cox.net) 20.08.25 # well, why do you need install procedure? 20.08.37 Quit Rick ("I… don't need to be here.") 20.08.38 # I dont now 20.08.49 # I want to know how to get back to the whats playing screen from the menus 20.09.16 # problem is I don't have *evil* ipods 20.09.33 # and the button mapping is depending to your DAP 20.09.39 # yup. 20.09.41 # ipods are evil 20.09.49 # it doesnt tell you the button on the wiki 20.09.50 # then I can't help you for which button... manual can ;) 20.10.11 # IT DOESNT SAY 20.10.18 # and on manual? 20.10.44 # apparently, no evil ipods user around for tell you 20.10.54 Nick Aditya|Lunch is now known as Aditya (n=aditya@c-69-138-7-5.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 20.11.13 Join chi [0] (n=chi@tor/session/x-815df7cd450f91ac) 20.11.18 # ah nvm 20.11.22 # rebooting it worked 20.11.33 # i hope they iron this out soon 20.11.50 # Can't wait for someone to try and use my iPod though =p 20.11.55 Part Aditya 20.12.17 # LedByTheReaper: are you developer yourself? 20.12.48 # no 20.13.03 # I dont know a great deal of usefull programming languages. 20.13.23 # if i did i would help 20.13.41 # And brb dinner. 20.13.46 # yeah that why I asked you :p 20.13.53 # I'll move too 20.14.06 # * LedByTheReaper is afk 20.14.59 # just wanted to speak a bit with the Rockbox communauty, that was loooong weeks I didn't update my Rockbox version 20.16.26 # it's time to go for me too, Rockbox updated on my iriver 20.16.40 # I'll check what is new ;) 20.16.45 # bye all 20.16.50 Quit Zeus () 20.17.59 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-129-59.dsl.pipex.com) 20.18.30 Join Rick [0] (i=rick@pool-71-108-2-183.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 20.23.05 Quit Shadowarrior13 ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.01 :: www.XLhost.de )") 20.27.34 # * LedByTheReaper is back 20.27.41 Join Gibbed [0] (i=rick@pool-71-108-2-183.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 20.27.43 Quit Rick (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.27.47 # this is scary 20.27.53 # my ipod has better sound quality than my pc 20.27.57 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-71-108-2-183.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 20.28.33 # Anyone here use Sennheiser headphones? 20.28.39 # probably because your using some crappy onboard soundcard thats sitting right next to your PSU 20.28.48 # zomg i have an AC97 =p 20.28.53 # lol 20.28.56 # nForce 2 EAX2 6 channel 20.29.00 # And it's actually pretty good. 20.29.09 # ive got something similar 20.29.10 # But yeh, I need to upgrade pc.. 20.29.15 # Gotta wait till im 18 to get my savings. 20.29.17 # its ok i guess 20.29.53 # Rockbox is the sex though. 20.30.19 # any confirmation of audio working on 1g minis ? 20.30.22 # Hmm.. I hope I have enough space to fit hitchhikers guide to the galaxy on.. 20.30.45 # Minis look tough. 20.30.46 # great, iTunes is really pissing me off 20.30.52 # Why are you using it? 20.30.54 # It's shit. 20.30.58 # ya think? 20.30.58 # itunes wont recognise my ipod 20.31.01 # Winamps had native iPod support for ages. 20.31.07 # itunes locked off 20.31.08 # neither will anything but anapod 20.31.10 # And with rockbox you dont need itunes 20.31.14 # native? 20.31.17 # only since 5.20 ;) 20.31.18 # when I killed the process, the system restarted. 20.31.22 # winamp comes with ipod support out of the box 20.31.30 # 5.20 was out a month ago? 20.31.33 # thats ages =p 20.31.38 # sif 20.31.48 # I'm not aware of other programs handling videos well 20.31.52 # But for some reason I've gone back to WMP 20.32.00 # VLC is the best video player out there. 20.32.06 # duh... 20.32.10 # I mean getting them on the iPod 20.32.13 # oh 20.32.22 # yeh i use itunes for that 20.32.33 # and podcasts 20.32.37 # that too 20.32.43 # Anyone here sub to VOD cars? 20.32.47 # where would I be without my Strong Bad podcast 20.33.20 # I get happy tree friends, vod cars, all day breakfast comedy, cs-dl and that funny astonamy one 20.33.50 # okay, i think i know the format of the c64 character sets 20.34.00 # woo 20.34.03 # bbl 20.34.03 # crashday's downloaded 20.34.11 Part amiconn 20.34.52 # stupid crappy metallica songs 20.34.56 Quit Rick (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.35.10 # GAAAAAAAAAH 20.35.18 # sshhh 20.35.18 # Rockbox isnt playing stuff properly 20.35.21 Join Rick [0] (i=rick@pool-71-108-2-183.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 20.35.36 # now it is 20.36.42 # sundays are boring 20.37.04 # tomorrow is manic monday, are those better? 20.37.33 # im going to cornwall for a week 20.37.42 # and yeh, 2 week holiday from college 20.38.04 # wouldn't you still be in high school if you're not 18? 20.38.12 # I'm in the UK 20.38.20 # ah 20.38.26 # You finish compulsary education at 16. 20.38.44 # And yeh, I'm in my first year of software development at college. 20.38.46 # i'm pretty sure high school isn't compulsory? 20.38.53 # cause i fucked up my A levels last year 20.39.01 # I dont know about the US education system. 20.39.14 # i have given up understanding other countries' school systems 20.39.24 # Ignorance is bliss ;) 20.39.43 # Andway. going to play crash day 20.39.45 Join Apostle^ [0] (n=Apostle@c-24-3-195-42.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 20.39.46 # * LedByTheReaper is busy 20.39.55 # hi, i copied the .rockbox folder to my ipod 20.40.01 # but it still can't find it 20.40.13 # did you also copy rockbox.ipod to your ipod? (not into .rockbox though) 20.40.39 # yes 20.40.45 # the OS loads but the rockbox folder has an X 20.40.49 # and it can't be found 20.41.00 # i checked the permissions it looks okay 20.41.41 # what do you want to do exactly? 20.42.02 # boot rockbox .. 20.42.07 # it can't find the .rockbox folder 20.42.10 # but it's on their 20.42.14 # and all the files are in their also 20.42.25 # it's hidden by default 20.42.37 # ? 20.42.43 # i'm on linux, i can see it 20.42.49 # the ipod can't find it thought 20.42.53 # in rockbox 20.42.58 # ........ 20.42.59 # ? 20.43.10 # the .rockbox directory is hidden in rockbox by default 20.43.26 # if you copy music to /Music or something, you will see it 20.43.33 # if you change the setting to show all files, you will see .rockbox too 20.43.44 # okay so 20.43.48 # what do i need to do? 20.43.53 # in order to do what? 20.43.53 # copy music to /music ? 20.43.56 # listen to music 20.44.01 # put music anywhere 20.44.11 # it's written in itunes 20.44.12 # you don't want to put any of your own files in .rockbox 20.44.14 # is that okay ? 20.44.24 # you'll need to enable the show all files option then 20.44.26 # or do i need to clean it out 20.44.30 # okay how do i do that 20.44.37 # look through the settings menus 20.44.38 # and why does .rockbox have an X on it 20.44.40 # you'll want to do that anyway 20.44.49 # unknown 20.44.58 # " 20.44.59 # ? 20.45.52 # Apostle^: you have also patched your ipods bootloader? 20.46.02 # yes 20.46.07 # okay, just checking :) 20.46.09 # i would guess so if he's booting rockbox :) 20.46.30 # cool listening to a song now 20.46.33 # i just needed to show all files 20.46.35 # must have misted that line :) 20.47.17 # how do i get it in color? 20.47.21 # like the text or it doesn't do that 20.47.36 # you can change the colors of the text and bg in the settings 20.47.40 # you can also have a background .bmp 20.47.41 # and do i still need to copy music using itunes compatible stuff ? 20.47.44 # nice. 20.47.51 # can i just drag music in now? 20.47.54 # and for the hwile playing screen, you can find themes on the wiki or make your own 20.47.54 # yup 20.47.57 # nice 20.47.59 # you don't need itunes 20.48.02 # nice 20.48.12 # if you're not going to use apple os, you can remove your ipod_control/music dir 20.48.15 # apostle- if you drag it in, it wont show up when you plug it into a 360, or whatever devices read itunes types I think 20.48.17 # niceee 20.48.21 # assuming you have the same music on your computer of coure 20.48.27 # but it'll play on the player regardless of the paths 20.48.34 # essoe: i don't use any device that uses itunes 20.48.39 # besides the ipod :-P 20.48.43 # what exact model do you have? 20.48.47 # nano 2g 20.48.49 # b 20.48.51 # ah, same as me 20.48.59 # apostle- I may be saying it wrong, but like a 360, or whatever that scans the itunes xml, then uses it 20.49.03 # make sure you mount with -o utf8, and don't use the sync options 20.49.05 # option* 20.49.07 # i do 20.49.17 # in fstab right 20.49.21 # sync severely slows down and wears out the flash 20.49.26 # yeah 20.49.27 # k 20.49.52 # hmm 20.49.54 # i like this alot 20.50.01 # also, you'll want to boot apple os for copying files instead of the builtin disk mode 20.50.06 # it will go a LOT faster that way 20.50.09 # k 20.50.17 # so now that i have it working 20.50.19 # hold down menu when booting before the apple shows up etc 20.50.21 # what else should i check out 20.50.50 # you could try playing doom, that's what everyone seems to want to do :P 20.50.59 # that works on rocks? 20.51.18 # that would be a + ... 20.52.26 # how do i get out of a plugin 20.52.31 # stuck in chess o.O 20.52.39 # menu+select usually exits plugins 20.52.55 # or brings up a menu with a Quit item 20.52.59 # doom doesn't work 20.53.06 Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.72 [Firefox 1.5.0.1/2006011112]") 20.53.08 # you would need to copy the actual game files over 20.53.34 Join solexx___ [0] (n=jrschulz@d084125.adsl.hansenet.de) 20.53.41 # wow this is nice 20.53.43 # the game files 20.53.47 # where do i get those 20.54.34 Quit Rick (Connection timed out) 20.54.43 # ahh i'm stuck in jewels :-P 20.55.00 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginDoom 20.55.08 Quit PaulJ (Connection timed out) 20.55.13 # when i hit end game in jewels nothing happens 20.55.34 # that's a bit strange 20.56.15 # it works fine here 20.56.32 # NICE 20.56.34 # tetris 20.56.39 # just what i thought ipod was missing 20.56.41 # oh this owns 20.57.11 # where do you put the doom files? I wasnt able to get it to work.. tried /games/doom/addons 20.57.24 # this would be great on a video 20.57.28 # with a nice big screen 20.57.29 # you put addons in addons, the main wads in /games/doom 20.57.30 # it is :) 20.57.46 # can somone email me the wads? 20.57.51 # i dont have doom cd anymore 20.58.00 # there is a shareware wad there 20.59.17 # hrm 20.59.20 # how do i get out of space rocks? 20.59.23 # that ones tricky 20.59.31 # hrm got it 21.00.28 # nice gonna delete that pesky itunes control 21.03.04 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m12.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 21.05.01 Quit solexx_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.06.57 Nick macd|zzz is now known as macdonalder (n=macdonal@CPE00045af2dd15-CM0011ae92481c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 21.07.43 Quit _Lucretia_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.08.29 # * LedByTheReaper is back 21.08.59 # Crashday is slighly iffy. 21.13.32 # how do i get to the 21.13.38 # browse files menu 21.13.42 # from when im playing a song 21.13.42 # from? 21.13.48 # middle button, short press 21.13.55 # ty 21.14.04 # this is cool beans 21.14.05 # to the max 21.14.06 # :-p 21.14.30 # how do i get EQ's ? 21.14.43 # probably the sound settings menu 21.14.50 # take your earphones out first 21.14.59 # i had some issues with the eq recently 21.15.11 # not sure if it was something i did, but i only got white noise 21.15.23 # oh it says i have no eq's 21.15.29 # do i need to dl the 21.15.30 # m 21.15.35 # you can set the parameters manually 21.15.42 # but you also need to select Enable EQ 21.16.19 # yea i did 21.16.26 # i just like to use a rock or jazz eq usually 21.16.29 # but it sounds fine without one 21.17.17 # now if somone asks me to use my ipod i can just say you won't know how :-P 21.17.56 # change the language to hebrew first too 21.18.02 # how is battery life compared to regular 21.18.04 # ipod os 21.18.08 # i bet it's better 21.18.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.18.20 # no, it's probably 60 or 70% right now 21.18.29 # that's a wild guess, but it lasts less than apple os 21.18.44 # oh 21.18.49 # lostlogic: btw, the playback is still very hard to start.. 21.18.53 # i never have time to listen to it for long anyway :-P 21.19.06 # Mikachu: how do i use a .bmp as my BG and how big should the .bmp be 21.19.21 # Apostle^: exactly the right size, ie 176x134 (i think), and 24 bits deep 21.19.28 # Apostle^: then put it in /.rockbox/backdrops 21.19.38 # then long select on it and select 'use as backdrop' 21.19.43 # k 21.19.52 # hm 21.19.55 # 176x134 lol 21.20.01 # i'm just gonna use a nice blue color then 21.20.02 # that's the res of the screen 21.20.06 # a real image would look bad 21.20.15 # na, it looks okay 21.20.37 # i think rockbox takes longer to load a song also 21.20.42 # but only a split second 21.20.45 # it boots a lot faster though 21.20.48 # yea 21.20.52 # 10x as fast 21.21.00 # if you're using cvs from today, playback is in a state of flux 21.21.00 # eems like it atleast 21.21.10 # dunno i just downloadedthe new 21.21.11 # os 21.21.12 # if you want more stable, go to 3rd april's build or so 21.21.19 # when i change the os 21.21.22 # maybe 4th, i forget 21.21.24 # do i just replace .rockbox 21.21.36 # rockbox.ipod would be the main one to replace 21.21.46 # k 21.21.47 # but you probably need to replace viewers/ and rocks/ in .rockbox too 21.21.50 # and codecs/ 21.21.52 # okays :-P 21.21.54 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@155-63-242-83.dip.h-tel.de) 21.21.56 # where do i get more themes? 21.22.04 # sorry for all the q's, just it's new to me :-p 21.22.10 # there's a page at the wiki, but there are only 4 themes for the nano so far 21.22.16 # okay 21.22.22 # i think i have morethen that on their though 21.22.31 # well, with colors 21.22.36 # ooo 21.22.38 # i want colors 21.22.39 # the ones that come with rockbox sortof suck 21.22.43 # they do 21.23.01 # most of them are made for bw displays 21.23.15 # yea 21.23.27 # 176 width 21.23.30 # or other way around 21.25.22 # its not that hard to port some of them] 21.25.29 # copy/paste files into ipod 21.25.33 # much better then using gtkpod 21.27.37 # i cant fidn any themes 21.29.56 Join Lear [0] (n=chatzill@h194n1c1o285.bredband.skanova.com) 21.32.18 # slasheri: you tested exit menu (to wps) with stop button? 21.32.48 # Lear: yes, i tried that 21.32.54 # i hope it works now as it should 21.33.17 Join PaulJ [0] (n=PaulJ@vpn-3045.gwdg.de) 21.33.31 # Looks like it should. Didn't see that solution though. :) 21.33.40 # nice :) 21.34.02 # yeah, i was little confused by the _PRE -definition earlier and misunderstood its meaning =) 21.37.21 Quit LedByTheReaper () 21.38.55 # Now the question is: why only for the iriver targets? :) 21.43.24 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 21.44.51 # oh, i didn't think that at all :) hmm, of course it should be enabled for all targets then.. 21.45.31 # or all targets which have the power button function as stop button also 21.46.46 # hmm, but i am not sure which players have that functionality.. 21.49.55 # Yes, maybe better to leave that to those who actually have players with suitable buttons... 21.50.05 # yep 21.50.51 # Apostel^: rsync rules :) 21.51.04 # but i can't get my script working from a vfat device :S 21.52.26 # how do i select the backdrop again 21.53.37 # hmm..my ipod is frozen 21.54.31 # what do i do 21.54.41 # reboot 21.54.45 # how 21.54.55 # mhh 21.54.56 # got it 21.55.05 # hold select and menu 21.55.05 # how do i select backdrop ? 21.56.23 Nick BoD[Zzzz] is now known as BoD[] (n=BoD@JRAF.org) 21.56.28 # Hello, crowd! 21.56.59 # what is uppp 21.57.30 # nothing yo 21.57.43 # hey BoD[] :) 21.58.04 # midkay: 21.58.07 # how do i change my bg again 21.58.25 # Apostle^, hold select on a .bmp file and "set as backdrop", i think will work. 21.58.36 # put it in /.rockbox/backdrops to retain it after reboots.. 21.58.46 # cool 21.58.49 # gonna get a theme now 21.58.49 # :-p 21.59.01 # choose mine!! 21.59.07 Join Rondom_ [0] (n=Rondom@87.193.33.76) 21.59.09 # which 1 21.59.27 Quit Rondom (Nick collision from services.) 21.59.31 Nick Rondom_ is now known as Rondom (n=Rondom@87.193.33.76) 21.59.40 # brushed_metal!! 21.59.59 # I like joltamp 22.00.08 # I think its kinda funny it looks like a winamp skin 22.00.17 # midkay: how do i install a theme with the 4 folders 22.00.25 # put them all in /.rockbox/ 22.00.28 # k 22.00.36 # essoe, it's cool, but.. funny? :) 22.00.45 Quit Kohlrabi (Nick collision from services.) 22.00.55 Join Kohlriba [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-146-159.pools.arcor-ip.net) 22.01.18 # midkay- I was really happy to find that one.. at somepoint going to have to try and make my own, I'm looking forward to developing some stuff for rockbox 22.01.36 # i like ipod vision nao 22.01.39 # it's the winner for me 22.01.51 # essoe, that's cool 22.02.06 # vision nao? 22.02.15 # nano 22.02.15 # skins rule 22.02.27 # one more thing where does the doomwad go 22.02.30 # do you need a 5G to usion ipod vision? 22.02.34 # use even 22.02.55 # i think there is a nano version 22.03.14 # wow vision nao is pretty 22.03.25 # yea 22.03.28 # im using it on a nano 22.03.43 # wow it's prettier then regular ipod 22.03.52 # is the album art patch hard to apply? 22.04.21 # not if it's uptodate 22.05.47 # where does doomwad go again? 22.07.11 # just the calculator function is priceless :-p 22.07.31 # this is probably a dumb question, but what file do I apply a patch? .. running linux, so have patch, but not sure of the syntax or what file to patch 22.07.49 # whats the patch do 22.07.49 # ? 22.08.09 # one for album art, and one for scrolling margins 22.08.17 # adds albumart 22.08.54 # guys where does doomwad go 22.09.05 # patch --binary -p0 < patch.file 22.09.09 # for patching rockbox 22.09.26 # guys? 22.10.38 # into /games/doom/addons/ 22.10.39 # thanks bluey 22.11.41 # bluey: in rockbox or no 22.11.56 # * ender` yawns 22.12.42 # in .rockbox 22.14.58 Nick bluey is now known as bluey^awy (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-109-202.pools.arcor-ip.net) 22.15.50 # cpp0: config.h: No such file or directory 22.15.51 # cpp0: config.h: No such file or directory 22.15.51 # CONVBDF 22.15.51 DBUG Enqueued KICK essoe 22.15.51 # Header parsed 22.15.51 # CC sysfont.c 22.15.52 *** Alert Mode level 1 22.15.52 # cc1: Invalid option `long-calls' 22.15.54 # make[1]: *** [/media/mp3/2/rockbox-daily-20060403/build-dir/firmware/sysfont.o] Error 1 22.15.56 # make: *** [all] Error 2 22.17.42 Quit mtnbkr ("Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. The answer is "NO."") 22.19.55 Join gaston [0] (n=d567fd09@labb.contactor.se) 22.21.51 # do I need to get a special version of gcc? 22.21.57 Quit gaston (Client Quit) 22.23.34 Join Rick [0] (i=rick@pool-71-108-2-183.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 22.24.17 # which version do you use? 22.25.06 # gcc version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9) 22.25.23 # for arm-elf ??? 22.25.53 *** Alert Mode OFF 22.26.22 # I dont think I have one 22.26.32 # I downloaded some install script .sh yesterday and couldnt get it to work 22.26.48 # wait nm 22.26.48 # arm-elf-gcc -vReading specs from /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/arm-elf/2.95.3/specs 22.26.49 # gcc version 2.95.3 20010315 (release)(ColdFire patches - 20010318 from http://fiddes.net/coldfire/)(uClinux XIP and shared lib patches from http://www.snapgear.com/) 22.26.49 # 15:26:40 22.26.50 # take a look at the wiki 22.27.21 # you need gcc 4.0.3 ( i use 4.1) for arm-elf 22.27.29 # at least for the ipod builds 22.28.08 # i'm awy now cu 22.28.08 Quit bluey^awy ("Leaving") 22.29.14 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 22.32.57 # Slasheri: hard to start defines? 22.39.19 Join mtnbkr [0] (n=mtnbkr@c-67-165-9-234.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 22.39.31 # is that a recent change? I think I've been using 4.0.2.... 22.39.42 # for ipod 22.39.50 # 4.0.2 is fine 22.39.57 # k :D 22.39.59 # even recommended i think.. 22.40.06 # again, check the wiki to be sure. 22.40.07 # I still use 3.4.5, I think... 22.40.08 # yeah I just went with what was recommended 22.40.18 # no, I lied 4.0.2 22.40.22 # lostlogic, not for ARM? hahaha 22.40.22 # can someone help me with extracting the apple firmware from the bootpartition.bin file with ipod_fw? docs say that apple_os.bin should be about 5MB, mine is 40BYTES. :( 22.40.25 # For arm targets, 4.0.x is recommended. 22.41.40 # that duder who's working on the 3G builds isn't around is he? I've managed to compile and install rockbox on a 3G but I don't know enough about rockbox to debug 22.41.53 # just kind of hoping to put my hat in the ring as a tester or something 22.42.44 # macdonalder: haven't heard form him in a pretty long while, I don't think 22.42.56 # hmm *shrugs* 22.43.15 # maybe I'll get some time after school is done ;) 22.48.26 Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.72 [Firefox 1.5.0.1/2006011112]") 22.51.08 Quit Rick ("I… don't need to be here.") 22.51.43 Nick Rondom is now known as Rondom2 (n=Rondom@87.193.33.76) 22.51.49 Nick Rondom2 is now known as Rondom (n=Rondom@87.193.33.76) 22.52.19 Part JazzBone 22.52.33 Nick Kohlriba is now known as Kohlrabi (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-146-159.pools.arcor-ip.net) 22.52.35 Nick Rondom is now known as Rondom^2 (n=Rondom@87.193.33.76) 22.52.57 Quit Rondom^2 ("x^2 ist mir zu süß") 22.53.35 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 22.53.35 # * lostlogic upgrades his build server to 4.0.3 for shits and giggles 22.55.10 Join tianjing [0] (n=mat@jullay.net) 22.55.29 # whee 22.56.12 # can anyone help me in my quest to get rockbox on my iPod 2g 22.56.51 # mtnbkr: none of the developers have 3g or older ipods 22.58.08 # lostlogic, guess what i got working... :D 22.58.11 # lostlogic: arg... :( 22.58.16 # sharpe: which what? 22.58.24 # the c64 emulator 22.58.36 # sharpe: yeah, I saw your mentoin of text display on it 22.58.36 # Zagor: idea for the tracker: maybe add targets such as 'iriver' and 'ipod' to the list for reports/patches that are common to all players of that platform? 22.58.40 # yeah 22.58.52 # is this entirely your own from scratch emu? 22.59.02 # minus the cpu emulator, yeah. 22.59.08 # cool 22.59.18 # hey i put the doom wad in /games/doom/addons 22.59.24 # but it still says not found 22.59.34 # Apostle^: you need to have rockdoom.wad in /games/doom 22.59.35 # shouldn't the wads just be in /games/doom ? 22.59.47 # sharpe, the standard doom/doom2 etc ones should.. 22.59.48 # lostlogic: okay 22.59.58 Join swampcow [0] (n=apo@dslb-084-058-097-062.pools.arcor-ip.net) 23.00.04 # Apostle^, if it's doom.wad, it should be in just /games/doom 23.00.05 # arrghh... headache 23.00.08 # constant... 23.00.14 # for the past like, five hours 23.00.34 # hm. wait. wait. wait. i got it. wait. wait. wait. wait. wait. take some medicine. 23.00.42 # meh. 23.00.47 # drugs are bad. 23.01.01 # didn't they teach you that in school? 23.01.04 # lostlogic, drugs are only bad when they're not good. 23.01.14 Join Rick [0] (i=rick@pool-71-108-2-183.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 23.01.47 # midkay, that's somewhat like saying a bomb blew up because it was built poorly. 23.01.48 # midkay: I'm special, I refuse to take pain killers unless I'm paralyzed from pain 23.02.13 # indeed, drugs are good when *really* needed 23.02.46 # lostlogic, of course.. everybody knows you're special from the moment they begin talking to you for the first time. 23.02.54 # and because i have a headache, it gives me the ability to bitch about things longer than i usually can 23.03.06 # lostlogic, and being special is nothing to be ashamed of. 23.03.07 # midkay: haha :D 23.03.37 # Haha, I'm just 'listening' to the fps test on remote 23.04.17 # hey i have the rockdoom.wad in games/doom 23.04.22 # but it still says i got no wads 23.04.39 # do you have the game wad too? 23.04.41 # does /games/doom 23.04.41 # amiconn: did you discovered something ? 23.04.42 # yea i do 23.04.50 # dos /games/doom go in rockbox ? 23.04.54 # .rockbox 23.04.55 # no 23.04.59 # ohhhh 23.05.01 # thats the problem 23.05.07 # If you have a ticking remote, and run test_fps with boosted cpu, the ticking turns into tweeting, or trilling 23.05.23 # haha. 23.05.30 Quit tianjing_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.05.41 # I made lcd_remote_update() more than twice as fast (without ticking reduction) 23.05.46 # that would make it rather easy to write a bird_call.rock! 23.05.47 Quit midkay (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.05.54 # * Moos thanks God the remote ticking goes out when he installed Rockbox on his iriver 23.05.55 Quit Rick (Client Quit) 23.06.01 # and the emulator works in executing basic commands 23.06.28 # Moos: The ticking is a strange issue, as it depends on both the main unit and the remote 23.06.28 # hence the PRINT "ROCKBOX C64" in the screen dump of it 23.06.48 # My H140 doesn't tick at all, but my H340 does tick, with the very same remote 23.07.06 # Mikachu: did you say you had some piezo code that triggered on input events? 23.07.08 # amiconn: yeah, I was surprised when I heard no more ticking before the Slasheri's option 23.07.17 # amiconn: uch :( 23.07.20 # obo: yeah sort of 23.07.41 # Moos: Maybe you would again hear ticking with my super-optimised driver 23.07.50 # hehe : ) 23.07.52 # can I beg/borrow/steal it off you? :) 23.08.06 # http://pastebot.gentoo-se.ath.cx/paste 23.08.07 # err 23.08.09 # super optimized driver... 23.08.10 # http://pastebot.gentoo-se.ath.cx/3 23.08.20 # amiconn: if you want I test, let me know 23.08.33 # obo: it sends a constant tone until you change it or call _stop 23.08.46 # cool - thanks 23.08.57 Quit carini (Remote closed the connection) 23.09.33 # I get 126/378 fps on remote now (unboosted/boosted). The old driver managed 52/156 fps 23.09.37 # obo: i stole it from preglow :) 23.09.49 # how do i acutally play the doom 23.09.52 # it';s just like a video 23.09.52 # lostlogic: for the mp3_encoder patch, I think preglow will look at it and commit it when he'll back 23.10.04 # Apostle^: press a button to get the menu 23.10.11 # That's w/o ticking reduction. With ticking reduction the old driver only managed 24/36.5 fps 23.10.16 # Mikachu: nothing works 23.10.21 Join Rick [0] (i=rick@pool-71-108-2-183.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 23.10.26 # amiconn: wow 23.11.14 # Mikachu: yea nothing works 23.11.20 # Apostle^: try flicking hold on and off 23.12.07 # ty 23.13.15 # Moos: I figured 23.14.22 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.14.41 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 23.15.59 # what's the best environment for rockbox development on linux? do any of the ide's work ok? 23.16.12 # any ide should work fine 23.16.26 # warthawg most people use vi/emacs/kate ... 23.16.34 # s/vi/vim/ 23.16.58 # yep, that's what I am using. but was curious if ajunta would work 23.17.12 # use a very tiny magnet attached to tweasers and write the bits on the hard disk yourself 23.17.33 # sharpe: it's so hard to get those things lined up right 23.18.05 # especially if you start going in the opposite direction the disk spins 23.18.20 # warthawg: it would be a rare project where the ide you use to work on it matters 23.18.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.20.00 # sharpe: that will be really hard with those new perpendicular storage drives 23.20.08 # yep 23.21.58 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 23.22.25 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 23.23.01 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-8-43.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 23.26.41 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 23.29.07 # perpendicular all the way! 23.30.17 # "Parents should regularly 'google' their child's name to see what pops up. Don't be afraid to use filtering software. Even if you don't have a computer at home, set some rules. Your child will find access to a computer in places such as school, a friend's house, and the local library." 23.30.50 # "Learn how to examine your Web browser's 'History' files or cache." 23.30.55 # they would find out i was a hockey playre 23.31.12 # and and a professor in stockholm 23.31.22 # hehe 23.31.29 # "Teach your child to come up with an alias, or fake name to use on the web. If they are being harassed, they will have a way of vacating the situation." 23.31.39 # i looked it up once.. i was a midget wrestler who wasn't very good 23.31.45 # and a race car driver 23.32.00 # and found some guy in maryland that does the same job that i do 23.32.01 # i'm a doctor with a phd and bachelor of science degree in sport exercises. 23.32.12 # also someone in tenessee 23.32.30 # and have a bridge named after me 23.32.35 # lol... and i contributed money to bargo energy co 23.32.38 # which is ironically, my name. 23.32.52 # I'm a city coucilmember with a DUI. 23.33.01 # and apparently i contributed to some project called rockbox 23.33.06 Part overflow-1 ("Leaving") 23.33.13 # sharpe: lets not forget a marker 23.33.15 # he he he.. that couldn't be true 23.33.21 # Mikachu: 23.33.31 # this information coming from a brochure my local school system has provided me. 23.33.47 # "Positive aspects to blogging" 23.33.52 # "Blodding tips for teens" 23.34.00 # *Bleeding 23.34.06 # blogging 23.34.19 # web logging! 23.34.23 # teehee! 23.34.25 # "Rember, go across the river, not down it" 23.34.30 # teeheenessee 23.34.31 # s/Rember/Remember 23.34.32 # hmm i set a dif shoot key in doom and now i have no shoot 23.34.33 # :-P 23.34.44 # damn.. i didn't think tim goff was that common of a name 23.34.45 # s|s/Rember/Remember|s/Remember/Remember/| 23.34.45 # BHSPitLappy: isn't it 'go across the road, not down the street'? 23.34.50 # The second entry when I google my name is me at rockbox 23.35.01 # The first is some expert of all things Titanic 23.35.05 # heh 23.35.09 # Mikachu: What??? 23.35.10 # * BHSPitLappy bleeds to death 23.35.23 # well, there are probably a few variations 23.35.45 # I'm a jeweler and some guy with a DUI 23.36.26 # i'm a doctor and someone with a portfolio 23.36.27 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.36.41 # so if i google for all those things, can i figure out your name? 23.36.46 # ha ha ha 23.36.49 # image search 23.37.03 # goffa_: i always read "ha" with spaces between as very sarcastic 23.37.56 # hmm... image search, nothing dealing with me, except for picture of bridges. 23.38.12 # usually it is Mikachu ... other times its the same as lol 23.38.13 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-28-186.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 23.38.38 # pic of me about half way down :) http://www.wweek.com/editorial/2941/4217/ 23.39.55 # apparantly you are experienced in the way of pipe bombs. 23.40.33 # lol.. yup... 23.40.45 # it would appear that way 23.40.51 Nick BoD[] is now known as BoD[away] (n=BoD@JRAF.org) 23.41.10 # just hope my parents don't find out 23.41.36 # everything that reference my name in google, is either a bridge, or rockbox 23.42.44 Join linuxmatt [0] (n=icechat5@dialup-4.228.183.12.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net) 23.43.14 # what are the voice files 23.43.23 # heh, first hit that's actually me is from the zsh dev list 23.43.38 # and next one is rockbox heh 23.43.50 # hello 23.44.03 Quit Bger ("BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it.") 23.44.24 # I need a bit of help with the bootloader 23.44.24 # Apostle^: files with voices 23.44.42 # linuxmatt: Which bootloader? 23.44.48 # video 23.44.55 # wih rockboy 23.44.56 # oh no, impossible tab completing 23.45.00 # i can play gameboy games? 23.45.05 # lol... http://www.walkonwheels.com.au/images/products/elecchairs/Goffa.jpg 23.45.07 # not on ipods 23.45.11 # damn 23.45.20 # well, not on the nano i think 23.45.36 # linuxmatt: What's the problem? 23.45.37 # linuxmatt: What problem are you having, as "I need a bit of help" stops a bit short of describing where things go wrong. :) 23.45.41 # did i tell anyone about the 20q rockbox plugin i had thought of? 23.45.52 # A 20q rockbox plugin would rock 23.46.07 Join Maglor_equaleft [0] (i=Maglor_e@bl5-117-46.dsl.telepac.pt) 23.46.09 # 20q ? 23.46.17 # hya people 23.46.32 # * linuxstb sees 79 bugs in the bug tracker and 3 weeks until release... 23.46.36 # Apostle^: At least I think he means "20 questions" 23.46.55 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.47.20 # linuxstb: That's less than 4 a day. 23.47.24 # yeah, i meant that 23.47.25 # I followed the directions. and rockbox works great, but I can't get back into the apple firmware. I tried holding menu on boot as explained in the wiki, but it still boots to rockbox 23.47.35 # linuxstb: closing spree! 23.47.35 # Paul_The_Nerd: No problem then... :) 23.47.47 # linuxmatt: try harder 23.48.00 # linuxmatt: you have to release menu after you press it to boot, then hold it down again 23.48.19 # ok i'll try that 23.48.27 # linuxmatt: Yeah, you need to press it again almost immediately after pressing menu to turn on the player. Very early. 23.49.15 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-178-129-59.dsl.pipex.com) 23.50.35 # still booting rockbox 23.50.44 # you have to not wiggle your finger either 23.50.49 # lol 23.50.54 Quit PaulJ (".") 23.50.57 # the scroll events will override the pressed button usually 23.51.11 # the disk mode and diagnostics mode still work 23.51.34 # yeah they are easier to trigger 23.51.43 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.51.51 # k i got it thanks 23.52.03 # rockbox is phat 23.52.07 # i wonder how good ipodlinux is 23.52.33 # is there a way to make it default to origional firmware and use keypress to boot rockbox? 23.53.16 # if you really wanted 23.53.19 # Not the Rockbox bootloader. It's designed for people who actually intend to use Rockbox for its stated purpose. If you want to though, you could use iPodLinux's Loader2 23.54.00 # is ipodlinux good, how does it compare to rockbox ? 23.54.31 # it's almost orthogonal to rockbox 23.54.43 # heh 6the instructions for installing linux on the 5g are so confusing, not officially supported, so i haven't tried it 23.54.48 # lol and that word means? 23.54.57 # you'll know when you get older ;) 23.55.05 # it means they don't share many things 23.55.07 # i think it has something to do with feet 23.55.17 # Bagder: Thanks for killing those posts. :) 23.55.34 # thanks for pointing it out 23.55.38 # i never realize i had this part of code dealing with a negative number... 23.55.53 # Bagder: did you see the thing i said earlier about rockbox-sf on /mail? 23.56.03 # Mikachu: no, what about it? 23.56.20 # Apostle^: At right angles to each other. Going in different directions. Rockbox is pretty focused on music features. Linux is spread out, and designed to do "stuff" 23.56.22 # oh, it says sourceforge 23.56.29 # Bagder: well, there's no such mailing list and the link is broken 23.56.38 # it's intended for sf bug mail 23.56.38 # Paul_The_Nerd: i like stuff :-P 23.56.51 # Mikachu: the lists is still there and used 23.56.53 # list 23.56.56 # Bagder: hm 23.57.01 # for flyspray mail 23.57.09 # okay 23.57.14 # the broken archive link confused me then 23.57.28 # yeah, the archive link is wrong 23.57.30 # you could update the blurb if you're bored though 23.57.44 # I'll do that 23.58.11 # Apostle^: Well, it has games and various programs, but it's really aimed at making the iPod into something other than a music player.