--- Log for 06.05.106 Server: clarke.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot- Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 11 days ago 00.00.05 # ahahahahahaha 00.07.56 Join k_otik_ [0] (n=Admin@41.250.18.117) 00.08.54 Part k_otik_ 00.12.25 Quit sn1ff () 00.13.23 Join hlj [0] (i=hlj@S0106000ae6c55cfe.ed.shawcable.net) 00.13.35 # hey 00.13.45 # yo 00.13.45 # i need some help 00.13.45 # i installed ipodlinux on my ipod last night 00.13.45 DBUG Enqueued KICK hlj 00.13.45 # but i cant goto apple os 00.13.45 # all the other stuff works tho 00.13.46 *** Alert Mode level 1 00.13.46 # when i goto apple os it asked me for a language 00.13.48 # but it freezes 00.13.50 # cuz i cant select or scroll through them 00.13.52 # i have a black ipod nano 4gb 00.13.54 # any suggestions? 00.15.24 Join scriptx [0] (n=scriptx@cpe-70-123-144-79.austin.res.rr.com) 00.16.20 # maybe not as helpful as id hoped :( 00.16.39 # ;/ 00.16.49 # scriptx u know much about ipods? 00.16.51 # this is #rockbox 00.16.58 # The only advice I can give is to run the Apple Restorer and then install Rockbox. 00.17.11 # hlj: try #ipodlinux for ipodlinux issues 00.17.18 # Badger 00.17.21 # Someone told him to come here 00.17.27 # so? 00.17.27 # hlj: try asking people in the rockbox irc they are usually very helpful 00.17.33 # From #ipodlinux 00.17.37 # hahaha 00.17.38 # Badger: have you been to the iPL IRC? noone there talks 00.17.47 # ANd it's mostly for devs 00.17.53 # so then we should speak about everything in #rockbox ? 00.18.01 # Well if people here help yes 00.18.04 # Rockbox supports iPod 00.18.05 # If you dont want to then dont 00.18.08 # wats the difference between ipod linux and rockbox? 00.18.08 # I beg to differ 00.18.08 # So why not talk about iPod 00.18.12 # I can only say that ipl worked for me exactly once. After trying to reboot it never started again. Got rid of it, and adapted rockbox 00.18.23 # hlj: Almost everything. 00.18.53 # which one has more features? 00.18.54 # scriptx: I said ipodlinux. We don't use it, we don't develop it so it makes no sense to do support for it here 00.19.31 # But if you do you can get alot of people who cant get iPL to work to switch ;) 00.19.48 # no, we do that by telling them how to use rockbox 00.20.15 # amen :) 00.20.28 # I don't mind talking a little ipodlinux, but coming here exclusively for ipodlinux help is plain wrong 00.20.31 # which has more features rockbox or ipodlinux? 00.20.44 # hlj: try them for yourself and see 00.20.53 # why cant u just tell me 00.21.00 # then i dont need to try both 00.21.01 # well this is #rockbox 00.21.09 # I bet you'll get a pro-Rockbox angle 00.21.10 # hlj: for music id suggest Rockbox 00.21.24 # but given that we are in #rockbox we are slanted towards it 00.21.27 # hlj: Its great for everything though 00.21.29 # hlj: There are no ipodlinux experts here, so we don't know all the features. 00.21.50 # Hence we can't answer your question. 00.21.50 # hlj: I have iPL and Rockbox and use rockbox most, and rarely if ever use retail os 00.21.58 # well u dont need to be an expert just ur opinion is fine for me 00.22.08 # im looking to play music and movies and games 00.22.18 # load a snes emulator 00.22.20 # etc 00.22.34 # well... rockbox has no video support atm 00.22.39 # nor snes emulation 00.22.40 # Rockbox is better for music, and has some games. IPL has some other games, and video support. 00.22.42 # has gameboy though 00.22.57 # But it doesnt work well... 00.23.01 # Yet! 00.23.03 # :stall: 00.23.23 # yeah... i haven't tried the gameboy thing (on an x5 doubt its possible atm) 00.23.25 # can i run a snes/n6r emu on ipl? 00.23.37 # no idea 00.23.47 *** Alert Mode OFF 00.23.50 # I think someone has ported one, but from what I've read it's too slow to be usable. 00.24.30 # yeah... snes would be tough on an ipod anyway from a useability standpoint (too many buttons, etc).. that'd be my guess anyway 00.24.37 # maybe i'm on crack 00.24.45 Quit RedBreva (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.24.48 # The forums at http://ipodlinux.org/forums are probably the best way to find out about all the applications which have been ported. 00.25.00 Quit speacial_ed (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.25.05 # ipl forums suck 00.25.10 # fyi 00.25.42 # i do have one ipl question... is it ipod specific? or have they ported to other devices 00.25.54 # iPod specific 00.25.54 # goffa: ipods only 00.26.16 # thought so.. just wasn't sure 00.26.25 # scriptx: but then in the forums they tend to say the same thing about our community 00.26.25 # so i guess that rules me out anyway 00.26.28 # not that i'd switch 00.26.36 # overall i'm happy with rb 00.26.56 # and i don't mean the beef sandwitch store :) 00.26.59 # Say what? That Rockbox forums sucks? 00.27.04 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.27.20 # not exactly with those words, but with that spirit 00.27.46 # people like to point fingers at other camps 00.28.00 # "we are the cool ones" "they suck" 00.28.04 # It's true 00.28.06 Join akaidiot [0] (n=not@84-217-95-149.tn.glocalnet.net) 00.28.07 # I've got like 00.28.10 # 5 threads 00.28.12 # all unanswered 00.28.42 # Bagder: Psycholgie thing (TM) ;-) 00.28.58 # oh indeed 00.29.02 # it's classical 00.29.03 # very common human thing 00.29.08 # yeah 00.29.15 # Most of the people join just to post a few questions that have been answered 500 times 00.29.41 # Bagder: about Human identity thing, and groups relations ship 00.29.42 # omg 00.29.49 # #ipodlinux is fuckin gay 00.29.53 # nobody talks 00.29.56 # its a dead channel 00.29.59 # some help 00.30.03 Join speacial_ed [0] (n=chatzill@00095b0ec047.click-network.com) 00.30.08 # now why is silent gay? 00.30.18 # nobody responds 00.30.45 # It's geared more towards developers, hlj. 00.30.51 # Not for 00.30.53 # ipodlinux refuses to come out 00.30.54 # I NEED HEP! 00.30.54 # OMG 00.30.55 # :) 00.30.55 # HELP 00.30.57 # I FUXED MY IOPOD 00.30.58 # DOMG 00.30.58 # FGOMFGOM 00.31.00 # NEED HELP]' 00.31.10 # That's what the forums are fore 00.31.12 # for* 00.31.27 # that sounds like what aol is for 00.31.35 # Hah 00.31.51 # phew, here isn't like this ;P 00.32.03 # kbye 00.32.03 # if i update my ipod firmware then will i still be able to load ipl or rockbox? 00.32.03 Part scriptx ("Leaving") 00.32.33 # You will have to reinstall a bootloader. 00.34.23 Join macdonalder [0] (n=macdonal@CPE00045af2dd15-CM0011ae92481c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 00.37.22 Quit hlj () 00.37.26 Quit ender` (" Q: What's another name for the "Intel Inside" sticker they put on Pentiums 4? A: Warning label.") 00.41.46 Quit Siku () 00.47.00 Quit macdonalder ("bye bye ;D") 00.52.51 # linuxstb: What do you think, do we want the hack for getting rid of -ffunction-sections? Boost-wise it makes no difference, but all binaries get smaller... 00.54.25 # I think getting rid of -ffunction-sections will mean lostlogic's profiler parser will work on ARM. So that's another point in favour. 00.54.44 Join sharpe [0] (i=ziggy@user-0c8hc23.cable.mindspring.com) 00.55.10 # eh... 00.57.48 # linuxstb: It means making 6 functions in ata.c non-static (can be done for arm only, with a macro) 00.59.05 Quit lee-qid__ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 01.00.30 # (or alternatively move these functions out of iram) 01.04.06 Quit Kohlrabi ("Fast alle Menschen sind Regenwürmer") 01.06.13 Quit speacial_ed ("Bye") 01.06.21 # #define gcc_goof_more -O2 01.07.43 # So I assume that that change means that gcc is performing less long calls? 01.07.50 # yes 01.09.36 # It still doesn't link with -O2 though. Then it stumbles in thread.c, upon a function which isn't static 01.10.47 # But the function is declared with ICODE_ATTR? 01.11.38 # yes 01.11.59 # I think this is the sibling call thing Mikachu figured out. Trying... 01.14.04 # ...it works 01.14.37 # ...and -O2 makes the binary smaller than just -O 01.17.32 # Cool. Do you have any ideas about getting rid of the -mlong-calls completely?. 01.17.48 # mini2g rockbox.ipod: ~338K with cvs, ~327K without function sections, and ~322K with -O2 -fno-optimize-sibling-calls and without function sections 01.18.15 # We can't 01.18.48 # We can just minimise the number of long calls by making all functions static that should be static 01.20.28 # The gcc long-call logic is far from optimal. Setting a function attribute to long_call causes all calls to this function to be long calls 01.21.18 # The correct way would be to make inter-section calls long calls, and keep in-section calls short 01.23.38 # Ugh, the -O2 build causes a hard crash... 01.23.58 # Ugh indeed. 01.24.26 # Stkov main when trying to play music, and ugly noises from the output... 01.24.50 Join ericmoritz\0 [0] (n=eric@68.51.228.83) 01.25.17 # hi, I'm trying to create a backdrop, is there any special settings for the bmp 01.25.29 # 24-bit and the exact size of your LCD. 01.26.19 Join ga_miller [0] (i=wendy@adsl-69-225-5-119.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net) 01.26.28 # hello 01.26.41 # hmm, that's what I have I think 01.26.46 # linuxstb: is rockbox being sued? 01.26.47 # can rockbox play video on my ipod photo? 01.27.03 # mikearthur: No. 01.27.07 # ga_miller: No. 01.27.27 # It's not possible? 01.27.31 # linuxstb: I heard that from some guy who works from Wolfson Microelectronics today, about some ROM you've included as a plugin or something 01.28.05 # Is that the MAS code for PCM playback? 01.29.38 # ga_miller: Some kind of video is possible, yes. But no-one is working on it. 01.31.02 # linuxstb: so thats complete bull then? 01.31.16 # You would have to be more specific. 01.31.29 # But to my knowledge Rockbox doesn't have any code it shouldn't. 01.31.47 # he wasn't much more specific 01.31.56 # just that is was a game plugin, and he heard you were getting sued 01.32.04 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 01.32.08 # however, its perfectly possible he could have it confused with iPodLinux or something 01.32.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.32.30 # maybe they spoken abou jewels? 01.32.36 # about even 01.32.37 # That's possible the Jewels plugin. We had an exchange of emails about that with the company behind Bejewelled. 01.32.45 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 01.32.45 # * amiconn was just about to ask that 01.33.08 # are we have some news? 01.33.10 # that could well be what he was talking about 01.33.22 # apologies, I just wanted to get it from the horses mouse, so to speak 01.33.25 # The graphics in Jewels look similar to the graphics in Bejewelled. 01.33.27 # aye 01.33.40 # but not the same ;) 01.33.49 # is the iPod AC97 chip working alright for you? 01.33.52 Quit ga_miller () 01.34.03 # we don't have to change anything if we want imho 01.35.44 # mikearthur: "AC97" ? 01.36.10 # and what's about ATA&T btw? (more serious) 01.36.17 # sorry, the iPod codec chip 01.36.21 # its been a long day 01.36.28 # *AT&T 01.36.47 # Yep, no problems. I'm planning on starting to add recording support. 01.36.53 # cool 01.37.09 # just because the guy who writes the drivers for the chip is a big OSS head 01.37.15 # if you wanted to talk to him 01.39.14 # I don't have any specific questions - the datasheets are clear enough. But I would be happy to hear any comments he has on our code. 01.39.42 # ok cool 01.39.57 # I talk to him about it if I get the job :D 01.44.56 Join Romanos [0] (n=Romanos_@host-87-74-130-169.bulldogdsl.com) 01.46.35 # linuxstb_: did you see the thing earlier? 01.47.58 Quit Romanos (Client Quit) 01.48.48 Join Romanos [0] (n=Romanos_@host-87-74-130-169.bulldogdsl.com) 01.50.23 # Mikachu: Yes. I've no idea if boosting and unboosting 30 times a second is a good idea though... 01.50.39 # linuxstb_: yeah that was sort of my question 01.50.57 # It's probably not. 01.50.58 # also it won't unboost if it's behind 01.51.20 # Each boost and unboost looses a few milliseconds due to the pll relock 01.51.39 # Mikachu: Btw, why would you want that? 01.52.01 # the idea would be to save a little power 01.52.26 # Where? 01.52.49 # when limiting the framerate in pacbox 01.52.58 # ahj 01.53.05 # * amiconn never tried pacbox 01.53.14 # i've never got past level 4 01.53.18 # Lack of rom, and lack of interest 01.53.28 # I'm hoping to add sound to pacbox at some point, so that will probably use up those spare cycles. 01.53.44 # i did make the unboost unconditional at first by accident 01.53.48 # then i only got 25 fps 01.53.58 # so it doesn't unboost every frame 01.54.03 Quit Romanos () 01.54.15 # What framerate do you get if you remove that loop completely? 01.54.28 # i'll chcek 01.56.38 # hrm, i got 30.3 heh 01.56.44 # but i know i've gotten higher before 01.57.13 # maybe i commented out a line too many 01.58.34 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=jborn@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 01.58.37 # nope, still 30.3 01.58.45 # i guess in that case there's not much point 02.00.09 # Nope. But there is a lot of room for optimisation - the screen rendering function needs to be rewritten in assembler. I've only done that for the 5g, and someone else did a H300 version. 02.00.37 # hm, when i set FPS to 20, i get 24 02.01.32 # how does that happen? 02.03.18 # hm yeah, you still do the full emulation for every pacman frame so lowering the displayed framerate doesn't change as much as you think 02.03.20 # I guess that means that not displaying 10 frames means the CPU can be emulated 20% faster. 02.04.08 # Yes, the framerate just means how many of Pacman's 60fps are displayed each second. So it's just the LCD rendering code that's skipped. 02.04.22 # couldn't you skip the hardware blitting code too? 02.04.25 # that wouldn't affect game state 02.04.31 # i mean the emulated hardware 02.04.41 # or maybe you do 02.05.22 # There isn't any. The only emulated hardware is the CPU, RAM and I/O ports (for the buttons and coin slots) 02.06.08 # for some reason i thought renderBackground/Sprites was done every frame, and only blit_display skipped, but that would be stupid 02.09.04 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-179-76-84.dsl.pipex.com) 02.12.01 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (i=Steve-O@adsl-65-69-154-93.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 02.12.59 Quit Moos ("Glory to Rockbox !!!") 02.17.22 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 02.23.09 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 02.24.47 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-121-12.VIC.netspace.net.au) 02.28.07 Quit mikearthur ("Konversation terminated!") 02.31.36 Nick chi- is now known as chi (n=chi@tor/session/external/x-62b47e280d8f98e5) 02.31.53 Join yobesoom [0] (n=mooseboy@c-67-171-207-167.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 02.37.37 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 02.39.58 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.40.29 Quit obo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.40.52 Quit pixelma (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Chicks dig it") 02.41.29 Join KN|stiff [0] (n=phhome@Fd0c2.f.strato-dslnet.de) 02.42.22 Quit KN|stiff (Client Quit) 02.45.40 # * dongs is on level 38 in bubbles. 02.46.58 # i think i'm on 24 or so 02.47.30 # but i've finished brickmania 02.48.05 # ah. controls are too sluggish in that. 02.48.08 # sounds like you guys are having as productive a workday as I am 02.48.14 # i changed them :) 02.48.23 # to what 02.48.30 # absolute mapping between the wheel and the playfield 02.48.44 # hm 02.48.55 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 02.48.58 # so you can insta-jump to a place? 02.49.08 # yeah 02.49.10 # neat. 02.49.12 # wehre's the patch :D 02.49.21 Join cismo_ [0] (i=cismo@adsl-85-217-32-12.kotinet.com) 02.49.22 # but it's sort of impossible to go to the exact right place without sliding there 02.49.34 # at least on the nano wheel 02.49.37 # dongs: on the tracker 02.53.36 # so it is 02.53.48 # is the link at the top updated or should I use the 'v4' from bottom of the page? 02.53.59 # you would want the latest one 02.54.06 # and the one for brickmania 02.54.21 Join Romanos [0] (n=Romanos_@host-87-74-130-169.bulldogdsl.com) 02.54.28 # heh, that was maybe not so helpful, the one at the bottom is the latest 02.54.59 # so, i need both? the wheel-absolute patch and brickmania patch? 02.55.13 # yes 02.56.39 # lol so failed 02.57.04 # too lazy to see why 03.00.58 Quit Romanos () 03.01.53 Quit cismo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.09.55 # Mikachu, where are you/ 03.09.59 # i'm here 03.10.03 # dongs: which of them failed? 03.10.10 # no, where in the world are you 03.10.52 # maybe we could make a carmen san diego type game of this 03.11.36 # you could also /whois me 03.12.23 Join macdonalder [0] (n=macdonal@CPE00045af2dd15-CM0011ae92481c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 03.13.30 Join RoC_MM [0] (i=dragon@dsl-29-8.cofs.net) 03.14.47 Quit RoC_MM (Client Quit) 03.17.25 # heh, I made a wps for my wife's nano: http://eric.themoritzfamily.com/upload/nano_cc.png 03.20.15 Quit macdonalder (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.20.31 # Mikachu: the brick patch failed, it doesnt look that hard to fix but im to lazy. 03.20.36 # wheel patch succeeded with some offsets. 03.20.39 # okay 03.23.58 Join macdonalder [0] (n=macdonal@CPE00045af2dd15-CM0011ae92481c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 03.31.14 Quit zgh ("Lost terminal") 03.32.18 # lol @ colors 03.32.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.38.10 Quit JoeBorn ("open.neurostechnology.com") 03.45.47 Join vidkun [0] (n=tharg@tor/session/external/x-3d2594d747dbdb12) 03.47.51 # there we go: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpodNano#Chanel_Nano 03.53.16 Quit macdonalder ("bye bye ;D") 04.01.58 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.03.06 Quit Genre9mp3 ("Leaving") 04.06.45 Join macdonalder [0] (n=macdonal@CPE00045af2dd15-CM0011ae92481c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 04.10.44 Join eLMafUDd [0] (n=cb3bb21e@labb.contactor.se) 04.11.08 # hey 04.11.20 # could anybody help me...? 04.11.28 # i cant install rockbox on my ipod video 04.11.44 # i did everthing the guide says, and when i reboot it... it just comes up with the apple firmware 04.11.50 # Then you didn't do everything right. 04.11.59 # Does it show the Rockbox bootloader, or straight into apple? 04.12.05 # i have the files .rockbox and rockbox.ipod 04.12.12 # straight into apple 04.12.12 # I didn't ask about those. 04.12.26 # i know 04.12.36 # You screwed up either one of the ipod_fw steps, or the last ipodpatcher -w N rockboot.bin step 04.12.52 # ok ill retry the tut 04.12.55 # I'd suggest starting over that process, and making absolutely sure you get them right. 04.13.52 # Odds are you just didn't do the -w to write back the rockboot.bin, but it's a bit unpredictable 04.16.16 Quit macdonalder (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.16.35 Quit zigford ("Toodles...") 04.16.49 Join macdonalder [0] (n=macdonal@CPE00045af2dd15-CM0011ae92481c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 04.16.54 Quit hardeep ("BitchX Lite I said!") 04.20.14 Quit macdonalder (Client Quit) 04.25.03 # you are now bricking: your $400 ipo 04.25.03 # d 04.27.34 # you can't brick them without actively trying 04.27.41 # true. 04.27.50 # hitting it with a brick seems to work efficiently. 04.32.59 Quit TCK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.33.14 # where's that theme gallery at? 04.33.40 # In the wiki, where it's always been? 04.35.50 Quit PaulJam (".") 04.36.27 # ... 04.36.40 # man, extracting the rockbox files takes a while 04.47.09 Quit eLMafUDd ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 04.52.15 Join Short2 [0] (n=Administ@pool-70-106-193-49.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net) 04.52.32 Part Short2 04.55.37 Part _Veseliq_ ("www.ModReactor.com www.ModReactor.com www.ModReactor.com www.ModReactor.com www.ModReactor.com") 04.56.36 Join BigMike04 [0] (i=BigMike0@d205-250-48-77.bchsia.telus.net) 04.56.41 # hey 04.56.52 # i have ipl installed on my ipod 04.56.59 # and i heard that rockbox is way better 04.56.59 Quit TeaSea ("Leaving") 04.57.09 # now, can someone show me some screenshots? 04.57.33 # and also tell me why rockbox is better than linuix? 04.57.49 # rockbox.org 04.59.42 Quit Daishi ("Client exiting...") 04.59.58 # i have 4g colour 20gb 05.00.03 # will rockbox work on that? 05.00.38 # nvm it will 05.00.44 # im on the site checkin out everything 05.02.29 # Rockbox isn't better than Linux. 05.02.56 # I mean, all we can do is playback music gaplessly with an available full parametric equalizer, crossfade, crossfeed, and replaygain. 05.03.23 # ic ic 05.03.26 Quit BigMike04 () 05.03.44 Join Rob2222_ [0] (n=Miranda@ACB41489.ipt.aol.com) 05.04.28 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 05.06.58 Join scottder [0] (n=sdexter@ip70-188-142-96.ri.ri.cox.net) 05.08.47 # Ok i updated o CVS this morning...hearing clicking sound when i change volume on my nano now 05.10.27 # Faint, easiest to hear when playback is paused and the volume is high? 05.10.54 # I don't hear it when paused 05.11.14 # but more noticable at high volumes.... 05.11.21 # Alright 05.11.21 # and not dependant of format 05.11.45 # It shouldn't be. I've heard it in the retail OS myself 05.12.23 # drat I don't have any music on the Apple OS side. 05.13.05 Join dj-fu [0] (n=deejay@202-89-150-179.ubs.qsi.net.nz) 05.14.23 # I don't *think* it's Rockbox-specific is all. It may still be fixable 05.16.23 # Just cropped up tonight...I'll tinker more tomorrow 05.16.50 Join qwm [0] (n=qwm@h147n2fls32o1010.telia.com) 05.16.51 # midkay_ 05.16.54 # are you awake? 05.18.04 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05.20.21 Join tanq [0] (n=tanq@24-182-106-48.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) 05.21.58 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.21.59 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 05.23.30 # wheeeeeee!!! 05.23.44 # what happen? 05.24.30 # actually, nothing. in fact, things have been worse than they were. 05.24.52 # cool 05.25.35 # i have to write at least a four page paper by monday, and i have to work out a presentation by tuesday, which probably won't be presented for a week or so. 05.28.22 # lol, join the club 05.28.30 # i have a security paper on windoze 2k3 to write for monday 05.28.35 # haven't even started 05.28.44 # and it's going to be hard to lie through the whole thing and pretend it's actually secure 05.29.00 # Seucrity and Windoze 2k3....*giggle* 05.29.01 # :) 05.30.27 # lol :\ 05.32.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.33.01 # heh... 05.33.08 # "[BHSPitLappy] where's that theme gallery at? [Paul_The_Nerd] In the wiki, where it's always been?" 05.33.12 # i'm also becoming more and more sick... 05.33.15 # sorry, I meant the one that was linked in here earlier. 05.33.20 # it's off-site 05.36.21 # i don't want to sleep... 05.36.42 # found it... http://rockbox-themes.redbreva.com/ 05.39.39 Quit chi (Remote closed the connection) 05.42.16 Quit dj-fu ("Leaving") 05.44.39 Join chi [0] (n=chi@tor/session/external/x-9fc69f0d5cb0532d) 05.46.31 Join dj-fu [0] (n=deejay@202-89-150-179.ubs.qsi.net.nz) 05.50.12 Quit dj-fu (Remote closed the connection) 05.52.26 # * Paul_The_Nerd wonders how you "Increase Stereo" 05.53.25 Join dj-fu [0] (n=deejay@202-89-150-179.ubs.qsi.net.nz) 05.53.30 # grow more ears? :) 05.53.40 # stereo width > 100%? 05.53.53 # No, he seems to be pretty sure he means *more* stereo somehow 05.56.22 # And to "improve sound" 05.56.58 Join gursikh [0] (n=guriskh1@adsl-68-93-88-251.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 05.57.10 Part gursikh 05.57.29 # i'm sure there are some tricks that work more or less well depending on the music 05.57.57 # Well yeah. Like crossfeed. 05.58.05 Quit dj-fu (Remote closed the connection) 05.58.27 # But saying that "Rockbox should offer sound improvement" is a kinda vague feature request. ;-) 05.58.34 # ah, heh indeed 05.58.37 # as in 05.59.03 # it catches you listening to "My Humps" and it switches to Beethoven for you 05.59.16 # See, now *that* is a plugin I could get behind. 05.59.20 # hehe 05.59.22 # :) 05.59.54 # i think i might have heard a part of that song once 05.59.56 # discretionbox 05.59.57 # is it really annoying? 06.00.03 # mmhmm 06.00.49 Join dj-fu [0] (n=deejay@202-89-150-179.ubs.qsi.net.nz) 06.09.37 # Okay, what is it that we have if it's not "Bass boosting?" 06.10.02 # Is there a difference between "boosting" and simply "increasing"? 06.14.24 Join firecat53 [0] (n=d839c8e2@labb.contactor.se) 06.15.59 # Hey...anyone here able to help out with an ipod mini 1G install? It's freezing randomly and often w/ today's build. 06.17.14 # "Definition 06.17.14 # Circuitry that boosts the bass response of the amplifier, improving audio reproduction, especially when using inexpensive headphones." 06.17.55 # the definition of bass boosting being bass boosting doesn't help a lot 06.18.04 # hehe 06.18.18 # Synonyms * Low Frequency Gain Boost 06.18.29 # think that's pretty blunt 06.20.26 # firecat53: If you've gotten it to the point where it's running but freezing every now and then, it's just bugs. AAC/MP4 files? 06.22.02 Quit lukaswayne9 ("Ex-Chat") 06.22.12 Part tanq 06.25.56 Join TEFL0N [0] (n=TEFL0N@cpe-24-24-100-35.midsouth.res.rr.com) 06.27.09 # I think I am about the ten-millionth person to query, but... how does one go about applying a patch? 06.27.29 # patch -pX < file.patch 06.27.38 # depending on where you are in the to-be-patched file structure 06.28.59 # Tried it... I get no result... 06.29.39 # "error messages" are not the same as "no result." 06.30.08 # I do not even get an error message. 06.30.17 # So it says nothing at all? 06.30.51 # Yeah... I am going about this all wrong... 06.31.17 # You type patch -p0 < blah.patch at the prompt, and it says *nothing*? 06.31.23 # Nothing happens at all? 06.31.32 # In the CMD, right? 06.31.57 # No. 06.32.35 # I'm on Rockbox's twiki under SimpleGuideToCompiling#Adding_Patches 06.32.40 # Patching requires compiling. Compiling requires setting up one of the various development environments (cygwin, VMware). You need to run patch from in one of those 06.32.58 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3001.gwdg.de) 06.33.21 # Oh OK... it's still in progress of downloading. 06.33.23 # Paul_the_Nerd: I wouldn't call it usable...it works....rarely. Takes multiple reboots to get past the logo screen. Won't play more than a minute of any songs (mp3 & ogg). 06.33.23 # See, the interesting thing about the SimpleGuideToCompiling is that it tells you things in generally the order you should do them. 06.33.52 # are 1G minis supported? 06.34.01 # They were supposed to be 06.35.43 # There's a build specifically for the 1G minis..... 06.37.48 # Yup 06.37.53 # Because it's supposed to be supported 06.38.04 # i was jsut not sure 06.38.26 # But the 1G Mini build is our youngest, and most likely buggy still. 06.38.38 # You could help out by figuring out how to track down some causes, maybe. 06.39.38 Quit rotator ("zzzzzzzzzzZ") 06.39.50 # I'm willing to try....can't say I'm a programmer, but I can follow directions..... 06.40.15 # Well, this isn't really a follow directions thing. That's why there was that 'Figuring out how' part of it. ;-) 06.40.28 # Though it's possible this is just part of the rash of iPod bugs that seems to be in CVS right now. 06.41.34 Quit vidkun ("sudden death") 06.42.07 # I think my 'figuring out' days are in the past for the most part........five children later........but I'll keep checking back! 06.42.57 # Heh 06.43.35 Quit firecat53 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 06.46.35 Quit synth7 ("RANDOM NUMBER GENERATION IS TOO IMPORTANT TO BE LEFT TO CHANCE") 06.48.29 Join synth7 [0] (i=jerk@69-164-39-165.atlaga.adelphia.net) 06.49.14 Quit synth7 (Client Quit) 06.55.35 Nick midkay_ is now known as midkay (n=midkay@c-24-16-191-240.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 07.00.39 Join synth7 [0] (i=jerk@69-164-39-165.atlaga.adelphia.net) 07.00.50 # wooo 07.01.07 # g'night everyone. 07.04.50 Join hardeep [0] (i=hardeeps@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG) 07.05.31 Quit dj-fu (Client Quit) 07.06.06 # lostlogic: around? 07.06.28 # hardeep: 12 seconds from hitting the hay, what's up? 07.07.01 # lostlogic: get some rest, it can wait till tomorrow =) 07.07.10 # hehe, ok, see ya in 7-9 hours :) 07.07.11 # You've made him curious now. 07.07.23 # I'm betting he's back here in 20, 30 minutes. 07.07.33 # Paul_The_Nerd: and you'll hafta tell me about this rash you've developed (of ipod bugs) tomorrow too. 07.07.41 # haha. 07.08.06 # lostlogic: Just lots of people seem to be reporting issues booting. It's not a playback issue as far as I can tell. 07.08.20 # fun. 07.08.23 # Yes 07.08.28 # * lostlogic doesn't upgrade 07.08.44 # Heh 07.09.17 # ipod 5g with 20060429 and its FLAWLESS with booting, usb speeds, playback, and off/on/resume. 07.09.42 # Presence: Unfortunately 29-04-06 was a whopping 5 or 6 days ago. :-P 07.09.56 # i gno. I'm too chickenbutt to update. :) 07.10.10 # Hehehe 07.10.28 # I just backup the previous build I had on there before using an uncertain one on my primaryu 07.10.39 # This still is not working. 07.11.08 # TEFL0N: That statement was surprisingly lacking in "What actually happens instead of working" 07.11.39 # I enter the code then it resets with no result. 07.12.16 # What are you trying to do again? I thought you were patching. 07.12.45 # I am... I am trying to patch album_art_v4.03.patch 07.12.56 # And which development environment are you using? 07.13.11 # cygwin 07.13.31 # And cygwin's working right? You've done a test compile and that succeeded? 07.14.03 # Yes. 07.14.48 # So, when you run patch in cygwin, what resets? 07.15.01 # And what "code" are you entering? 07.15.17 # Not reset, per se... I just get a new command line and nothing being patched. 07.15.39 # And you're patching in cygwin? 07.15.56 # Yes. 07.16.39 # What happens if you do patch --help 07.17.42 # No result. It will only repsond to help 07.17.55 # ? 07.18.24 # What do you mean? 07.19.02 # When I type patch --help, it just reverts back to the command line. 07.19.14 # Then what did you mean by "It will only respond to help" 07.19.46 # Well, when I type help, it gives a list of commands... sorta like the cmd prompt. 07.19.54 # Just help alone? 07.20.04 # Yes. 07.20.05 # I didn't say to do that. 07.20.24 # I know... but when I tried patch --help, there was no response. 07.20.50 # Yes, and you shouldn't just told me that. If you keep telling me things that happen when you do other things, it just makes it all more confusing. Especially when I don't know you're doing the other things. 07.20.57 # What color is the cygwin command prompt? 07.21.07 # Green. 07.21.27 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 07.21.39 # TEFL0N: what happens if you type which patch 07.21.56 # Mikachu: Bah, that's right where I was about to go. :-P 07.22.06 # <- frag stealing 07.22.27 # I'm betting it's patch.exe in C:\Windows\, or something like that. ;-) 07.23.10 # Mikachu: /cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/patch 07.23.20 # Yeah, it's not using the right patch in cygwin then. 07.23.21 # awesome 07.23.36 # TEFL0N: use /usr/bin/patch instead of patch 07.23.37 # probably 07.25.18 # Paul_The_Nerd: what does /windows/patch.exe do? 07.25.44 # Mikachu: I haven't a bloody clue. I didn't even know *I* had one until a few moments ago. 07.25.49 # heh, okay 07.27.10 # It's from Trend Micro 07.27.36 # At least, mine is. 07.30.53 Join dj-fu [0] (n=deejay@202-89-150-179.ubs.qsi.net.nz) 07.31.02 # Mikachu: Instead of which patch? 07.31.25 # TEFL0N: He means type "/usr/bin/patch -p0 < blah.patch" instead of the other way 07.31.43 # yay linux, now i have to reboot to access my ipod 07.31.52 Nick dj-fu is now known as shadou (n=deejay@202-89-150-179.ubs.qsi.net.nz) 07.32.20 # Oh, I tried that. bash: /usr/bin/patch: No such file or directory 07.32.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.32.42 # maybe you simply didn't install patch when you installed cygwin, in which case you failed to follow the instructions 07.33.39 Nick shadou is now known as dj-fu (n=deejay@202-89-150-179.ubs.qsi.net.nz) 07.34.36 # TEFL0N: Have windows do a Find Files on patch.exe 07.38.58 # couldn't be sensible and just use a dang ubuntu box, no 07.39.03 # you had to go and use windows 07.39.59 # Well, I would've recommended VMWare 07.40.02 # Cygwin is a tricky beast. 07.43.35 Quit dj-fu ("Leaving") 07.46.33 # can't trust those redhat people 07.50.54 Join powr-toc [0] (n=r@84-51-129-124.rickmo645.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 07.54.01 Join RedBreva [0] (n=chatzill@host81-158-212-229.range81-158.btcentralplus.com) 07.58.25 # hi 07.58.34 # how can I resolve the dilemma of having white-on-white text 07.58.46 # By not doing it? 07.58.56 # too late. 07.59.04 # Then reset your settings. 07.59.08 # Am I missing something here? 07.59.11 # that would be the inquiry, yes 07.59.21 # Turn off ipod 07.59.23 # Turn on ipod 07.59.28 # Before bootloader finishes, flip hold switch 07.59.38 # Make sure Hold is ON by the time Rockbox loads 08.00.21 # thanks 08.04.05 # OK... I have retrieved the patch.exe file. 08.04.48 # Nobody said to retrieve any files... 08.05.06 # I know... I missed it during the download/install process though. 08.05.15 # Ah 08.06.23 # It should work now then. 08.06.55 # True... I am just searching for the right version. 08.10.06 # I keep getting "rejected." 08.10.54 # Try a different server? 08.11.34 # No... the hunks keep failing. 08.13.17 # Ah, well you didn't say you were on to actually *patching* it now. 08.13.28 # Failed hunks mean you have to do things by hand. The patch is out of date. 08.13.30 # Yes, yes.... my mistake. 08.14.10 # It generates files showing you the rejected hunks, you can then compare those with the original file and edit it manually 08.15.22 # What must I use to edit? 08.15.57 # Any text editor. 08.17.45 Quit hardeep ("BitchX for president.") 08.17.56 Quit aegray (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.19.25 # RedBreva: I recognize that name 08.19.39 # Mornin? 08.19.51 # mornin 08.19.59 # oh, I'm apparently on a site hosted by you 08.19.59 # lol 08.20.04 # that would be it 08.20.12 # hehehe - Welcome 08.20.45 # I am just updating the Nano Themes ATM... 08.21.18 Quit TEFL0N () 08.21.50 Join sando [0] (n=lolsteam@144.135.255.155) 08.26.20 Join Acksaw [0] (n=Acksaw@spc1-stok5-0-0-cust770.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) 08.26.55 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@adsl-75-2-253-16.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 08.34.03 Quit JoeBorn ("Leaving") 08.47.49 Part Paul_The_Nerd 08.56.06 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-39-208.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 08.56.13 Join theli_ua [0] (n=theli@pension-icom.intercom.net.ua) 09.04.47 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 09.09.52 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 09.11.52 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.19.23 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 09.21.47 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.21.53 Join qwx [0] (n=qwm@h147n2fls32o1010.telia.com) 09.24.49 Quit BHSPitLappy ("Dropped my laptop.") 09.25.32 Join pokecapn [0] (n=rofl@hc65252ea.dhcp.vt.edu) 09.27.12 # hey i have a quick question: what version of id3v2 is supported in rockbox for the h1xx? 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The second value of struct opt_items is not a pointer, it's a voice clip id. These ids count from zero, -1 means no clip 13.05.18 # What do you think about having a #define for "no clip", rather than just using -1 ? I think that would be more readable. 13.05.53 # linuxstb: Yes, the patch for talkbox existed before that. Also, the *idea* of voicing menus was brought up then, check the talkbox ml thread from May 2003 13.06.59 # So the idea for voice clips for filenames came before voice clips for menu items? 13.07.07 # yes 13.07.48 # http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-05/0235.shtml 13.07.50 # Also, do the scripts for generating voice clips for files use the tags? 13.08.02 # Or is it just filenames? 13.08.56 # And at the same day, the idea of voiced menus http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-05/0236.shtml 13.09.29 Quit lee-qid__ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 13.09.45 # The current scripts use the filename only. The original idea was recording the voice clips yourself, either on the pc or on target 13.11.38 # Yes, but reading that thread, the idea of server-side generation of clips use voice synthesis was mentioned after about 4 posts... 13.12.57 # In a way, it's probably good that Rockbox uses filenames - that means we are not doing the same as Apple's patent (which I think just uses tags). 13.13.55 Join qwx [0] (n=qwm@h147n2fls32o1010.telia.com) 13.16.29 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 13.16.38 # amiconn: there? 13.16.49 # yup 13.17.22 # did you read the comments in the bug report? 13.18.46 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.18.59 # and you still wonder? 13.19.59 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-39-208.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 13.20.04 # Hmm, you didn't refer to this 2nd report... 13.21.13 # ...but my comment concerning the negative value being ignored isn't correct either, as it's not passed verbatim 13.21.50 # Btw, it's horizontal scrolling, not vertical 13.21.56 # silly me 13.22.06 # There's still a problem with the inverse bar (scrolled or not) and arabic. markun knows about it 13.22.30 # amiconn: no, i didn't refer to the bug report from the patch, but i did refer the other way 13.22.57 # amiconn: I looked at it before the weekend. It's a little less trivial than I had hoped. 13.23.10 # You only mentioned 5182 in your commit, and 5182 doesn't reference 5267 13.23.18 # So how should I see the connection? 13.23.22 Quit damaki (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.23.26 # Our arabic joiner expects unicode in an array of floats, not UTF-8 13.23.36 # huh? 13.23.50 # floats??? 13.23.50 # shorts, not floats :) 13.24.26 # So how does it work in lcd_puts*() then? 13.24.48 Quit qwm (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.27.10 # amiconn: I think we convert the array back to UTF-8 at the end of the bidi code 13.28.38 Part LinusN 13.28.52 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-39-208.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 13.29.33 # cant you just rewrite bidi code to use utf8 to begin wiht? 13.29.36 # to save double conversion? 13.29.42 # if its jsut tables it shouldnt be that hard should it? 13.30.14 # speaking of unicode, is there a method to localize plugins? 13.30.20 # utf8 is variable length 13.30.38 # The bidi code converts utf8->utf16 13.31.07 Join Febs [0] (n=medifebb@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 13.31.22 # fun 13.31.24 # I think font_get_width could just use the bidi code 13.31.56 # I mean font_getstringsize(() 13.32.39 Quit pixelma (" I love my HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 13.32.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.33.08 # so is there some method to localize plugins? my friends dont like reading english menus in games 13.33.17 # No, not yet 13.34.40 # maybe stealing something like gettext but less bloated is a good idea. 13.35.23 # We do have a localisation mechanism. It's planned to extend it for use in plugins, but it's not yet done 13.36.24 Join chang [0] (n=chang@AAmiens-157-1-111-220.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr) 13.38.23 # markun: Do I miss something, or does our display code not handle unicode chars outside the base multilingual plane? 13.41.31 Join Lear [0] (n=chatzill@h194n1c1o285.bredband.skanova.com) 13.41.55 # using shorts limits it to only the first 65536 chars 13.43.21 # (not that I would expect fonts which support such chars in rockbox anytime soon) 13.46.16 Quit sando (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.47.15 Quit damaki (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.48.04 Join jacktorrance [0] (i=JavaUser@84-72-46-172.dclient.hispeed.ch) 13.48.18 # for those about to rock: FIRE 13.50.18 Join RedBreva [0] (n=chatzill@host81-158-212-229.range81-158.btcentralplus.com) 13.53.29 # My Nano needa a reboot after disconecting from PC to get it working again... is this known issue? (can't see any relevant reports on Bug tracker) 13.53.38 # needa = needs 13.53.52 # let there be rock 13.54.34 # let there be rockbox! :) 13.54.45 # RedBreva: do you see a "dead battery" icon in grayscale for ashort time befeore screen blanks out? 13.54.57 # yes 13.55.09 # RedBreva: Yes, that seems to be an Apple bug - the disk mode is nothing to do with Rockbox. 13.55.25 # known thing. 13.55.37 # OK, cool... 13.55.53 # linuxstb: yes, but its probably due to rockbox not properly initializing power related stuff. 13.56.02 # because I doubt this would happen in apple firmware mode. 13.56.33 # No - Rockbox resets the ipod and the Apple firmware in flash initialises the hardware and enters disk mode. 13.57.21 # markun: There's another way to solve the bar issue in the browser etc, without having to change font_getstringsize(), but that won't fix other places which rely on getstringsize 13.57.48 # g-string 14.02.53 # better fix it right the first time 14.03.09 # Genre9mp3: do you feel like adapting your WPS to 240x320? (Gigabeat's res) 14.04.05 # My idea might still be desirable in addition to fixing font_getstringsize() 14.04.30 # Did you know that there is a subtle difference between thongs and g-strings? 14.05.08 # markun: Is rockbox ported to Gigabeat? 14.05.11 # did you know that nobody in this channel probably saw either one? 14.05.18 # Genre9mp3: i think so 14.05.38 # The idea is to let the (internal) function lcd_putsxyofs() return its end-column. Then lcd_puts_style() & friends can use that for positioning the trailing rectangle. It avoids double calculcation. 14.06.09 # Genre9mp3: We're working on it 14.06.28 # Well, my try is to make a wps for all targets, so yes, I could make one for Gigabeat also... 14.06.46 # All science other than string theory is garbage 14.07.00 # I think the gigabeat lcd has a weird format... a portrait display on a dap... 14.07.07 # But isn't this resolution the resolution of iPod5g? 14.07.20 # Genre9mp3: yes, but rotated 14.07.21 # Genre9mp3: Same resolution, different orientation 14.07.28 # oh...I see... 14.07.34 Part jacktorrance 14.08.01 # BTW, I added the wps to the patchtracker: 14.08.06 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5297 14.08.25 # linuxstb: doom etc could also profit from another change I did in viewer.c - the cleaner option setting 14.08.36 # It gets my vote as the new default rockbox WPS 14.08.37 # and amiconn you were right about the iPod Mini.... 14.08.51 # Genre9mp3: I have one... 14.09.03 # markun: sweet! 14.09.06 # ...and I made rockbox run on the mini2g 14.09.18 # I never doubt on you.... 14.10.00 # but, seriously, on an old sim I got blury the 24bit bmps 14.10.18 # but I compiled a new one and everything was fine 14.10.25 # I updated the mini wps 14.10.37 # Unicatcher is iCatcher with unifont? 14.10.42 # yes 14.10.56 # where do i get unicatchier 14.11.01 # is it in the zip? 14.11.11 # They are all in the iCatcher.zip file 14.11.16 # yes 14.12.04 # * dongs gets unicatcher and replaces with my font 14.12.07 # dongs: how's your huhufont tool doing? Still working on it or is it pretty much finished? 14.12.35 # omfg, robert de niro receives an actual explicit handjob in a deleted scene from the film "1900" from 1976. 14.12.40 # Genre9mp3: Do you intend to adapt it to the X5 remote as well? 14.12.45 # markun: i rafb'd you last code I had, it works as far as Im concerned, if it needs to support more unicode ranges its just ADD_RANGE(blah) 14.12.52 # (not yet supported, but surely will be) 14.13.01 # Yes of course...why not... 14.13.10 # 128x96, 4-gray 14.13.22 # Oh...nice lcd for remote 14.14.20 # heh copying this itacthcer thing will take a few minutes 14.14.23 # i better just copy the shit iwant 14.14.29 # 12 minutes to copy 500k of files 14.15.23 # ? 14.15.37 # copying tiny files to usb drive is slow unless you disable caching 14.15.47 # er enable write caching 14.15.48 # Should I work on Gigabeat and X5 remote screens now, or wait 'till they get supported? 14.16.13 Nick qwx is now known as qwm (n=qwm@h147n2fls32o1010.telia.com) 14.16.51 # but then if write caching is on you cant just pull it without "disconnect" first. 14.21.31 # Nano? 14.21.41 # any usb device heh 14.21.47 # might be slower than usual on nano i guess. 14.21.49 # but i didnt notice. 14.22.08 # For harddisks it's not slow here even without write caching 14.22.09 # nano is APPALINGLY slow at data transfer 14.22.16 # Genre9mp3: work on it only if you want to 14.22.23 # RedBreva: windows? 14.22.28 # yep! 14.22.29 # For flash mem I would meanhwile strongly recommend to enable write caching 14.22.49 # Not doing this will put a lot of strain on the flash area that stores the fat 14.23.19 # The drawback is of course that you have to safely remove the drive 14.23.29 # markun: I only own an H340 and I wanted my wps to be for all targets, so yes... I want it for Gigabeat, too 14.23.40 # My thumb drive is LOADs quicker... 14.23.47 # RedBreva: hes right 14.23.51 # turning on write cache helps. 14.24.02 # amiconn: Good point, well made.. will do 14.24.11 # i just copied entire icatcher wps dir in a second 14.24.13 # I noticed the difference with my ondio. Windows (write caching disabled by default) takes several minutes to unzip a rockbox build to it. 14.24.19 # vs 13 minutes it would take with write cache off. 14.24.24 # Linux took something like 30 seconds 14.24.31 # (including the unmount) 14.24.39 # how do you turn writing cache on windows ? 14.25.12 # thats because in linux, if oyu pull a usb device without dropping to command line and typing several lines of cryptic shit, it'll at best cause a oops or at worst a hard lockup, or invalidate your scsi subsystem until you reboot. 14.25.27 # ?? 14.25.34 # chang: start->run->devmgmt.msc, goto drives, double click ipod drive, and goto policies tab, set optimize for performance, click ok. 14.25.43 # I just unmount via the gnome context menu, that's all 14.25.49 # lol, right. 14.25.51 # dongs : thanks 14.25.56 # but go ahead and pull a mounted usb device out of lunix. 14.26.02 # and see if youre still on irc. 14.26.08 # where as windows handles it gracefully. 14.26.27 # I don't irc from linux, but I did what you say. Numerous times, by accident 14.26.34 # you're misrepresenting the situation 14.26.51 # dongs: RMC on drive letter, properties, Hardware tab, Apple ipod USB Device, Properties, Policies 14.26.53 # I've pulled USB without umounting many times, with nothing as dire as you preduct 14.26.58 # predict 14.26.58 # Nothing bad happened to linux, but of course I had to check the volume 14.27.13 # Galois: ok, thats total bullshit. 14.27.25 # linux scsi / usb trash does not support surprise removal wahtsoever. 14.27.33 # *yawn* 14.27.35 # dongs: Huh? 14.27.38 # it results in either scsi subsystem trashing itself, usb subsystem trashing itself, or whole system trashing itself. 14.27.44 # I have to agree with Galois 14.27.44 # it does not support it, but it doesn't fucking crash hard lock 14.28.01 # I think you're jumping the gun on this one 14.28.01 # sure it does 14.28.12 # repeat after me, your own experience does not represent everyone's experience 14.28.12 # last time i bothered to try linux it did exactly that. 14.28.24 # and I've used linux a slight bit more than you 14.28.42 # I fully agree that what you describe can happen, and that there are systems where it always happens 14.28.52 # really now, well, lemme tell you something 14.28.59 # there are no systems when somethign liek that happens if you run Windows XP. 14.29.04 # debian testing here, and no such problems, both in a vm and on my amd64 14.29.13 # lol, amd64. 14.29.16 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-39-208.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 14.29.20 # again, false. You're spouting nonsense based on limited experience. 14.29.35 # I work for Microsoft, okay? I know windows xp. 14.29.36 # dongs: Sure there are. Windows XP sometimes has problems with USB2.0 and hubs 14.29.38 # Galois: "i've run windows xp a slight bit more than you" to quote yourself. 14.29.44 # haha 14.29.58 # I have the damn source code and you don't 14.30.08 # oh wow, and i know kung-fu and 30 other scary words. 14.30.33 # he guys, this is rockbox chan 14.30.38 # indeed. 14.30.46 # i was jsut typign that this discussion isnt going anywhere. 14.31.00 Join theli_ua [0] (n=theli@c.195.177.a408.dyn.adsl.cyfra.net) 14.31.04 # it never had anywhere to go. 14.31.51 # btw, i'd got a weird thing yesterday 14.32.09 # my iriver H120 just freeze, anyway i reset it 14.32.24 # but when reseting, it sounds very bad 14.33.01 # it really hurts ears if you're listening to high 14.33.07 # (too) 14.34.01 # and when restarting, it launchs iRiver native firmware 14.34.10 # chang: as in you got a burst of static when you reset it? 14.34.43 # ashridah : like when you unplug a mic or something like that 14.35.02 # ashridah : like a 10 Hz sound 14.35.20 # 10khz maybe? 14.35.23 # i dont think you'd hear 10hz 14.35.36 # very bass sound 14.35.38 # hm 14.36.00 # maybe thats like 50hz or whatever your electricity system is running at. 14.36.26 # yeah, french fu*king electricity system 14.37.23 # i'll investigate it anyway 14.37.26 # chang: a sharp click/pop sound? 14.37.44 # obo: more like a tiny explosion 14.37.54 # obo : yeah a pop or plop sound 14.38.55 # heh - during a normal shutdown/reboot rockbox cleanly stops the hw codec device - when it freezes it obviously can't do that 14.40.13 # i don't remember this sound in the early dev on iriver, where i was reseting like a mad guy 14.40.22 # (when) 14.41.15 # anyway, fault is mine, i shouldn't listen Iron Maiden at max volume 14.41.35 Join Hansmaulwurf [0] (n=maerlyn@p50818C91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.58.44 # hmm, trying to edit a .wps file with the builtin text editor was propably not a good idea. it does really strange things to the file. 15.01.03 # PaulJam: genrally, isn't such a good idea, you can easily get confused with the text editor due to its limited functionality 15.02.57 # It's not possible yet to build a Gigabeat simulator, right? 15.03.47 # yes, but it did things that i didn't expext, e.g. it removes empty lines, inserts a linefeed after 128 characters and it inserted stuff from the start of the file to the end. 15.03.56 # The text editor has some serious bugs 15.05.02 Quit theli_ua ("ðÏËÉÄÁÀ") 15.05.31 Quit nudel2 ("At Argon, we're working to keep your money.") 15.08.22 # amiconn: should i make a bugreport? 15.10.46 Join dpro [0] (n=x@chello080109121047.8.15.vie.surfer.at) 15.12.52 # I'm confused with the %pb tag.. is it %pb|height|left|right| in pixels? I tried %pb|12|12|164| and it appears at the bottom of the screen!! 15.13.54 # RedBreva: progress bar is line based like text 15.14.06 Join nudelyn [0] (i=nudel@dyn-62-56-118-146.dslaccess.co.uk) 15.14.35 # Ahhh... I had assumed that pixels given meant it was pixel based !! Doh!! 15.15.07 Join TeaSea [0] (n=Thunderc@lonsdale.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 15.15.20 # |height| is for it's thickness not where it will placed 15.15.40 Join nobelium- [0] (i=nob@c-217-70-77-150.bragatel.pt) 15.16.25 # Thanks... :D 15.17.15 # so can i run a pb *under* some displayed text? I suspect not :( 15.19.10 Quit powr-toc (Remote closed the connection) 15.21.11 # Redbreva: why not? 15.22.29 # what syntax would you use for that... I tried %pb|13|12|164| %pe of %pt and just got crap on the screen... 15.23.00 # well, %pb sholu be alone in a single line 15.23.05 # should 15.23.41 # so can I put some text on the same line, either over or at the end of the pb? 15.23.44 # i think this would only be possible with static text 15.25.04 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-179-76-84.dsl.pipex.com) 15.25.07 # RedBreva: If you want the pb under a text, place the %pb in the next line 15.26.01 # lol unifont is so damn ugly 15.26.06 # Genre9mp3: i think he wants the text to be shown on top of the progress bar 15.26.18 # no, I want the %pc/%pt to 'overlay' the PB 15.26.32 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-71-216.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) 15.26.33 # Oh....then I think you cannot do this 15.27.28 Quit dpro ("Leaving") 15.27.41 # the PB is good for a 'quick glance' but I want the actual time of the track on the same line :( It could be 50% of 2 mins or 50% of 15 mins... 15.27.58 Join sando [0] (n=lolsteam@144.135.255.155) 15.28.53 Quit nobelium (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.30.06 # this new album of the red hot chili peppers really rules :) 15.32.08 # Genre9mp3: unifont is 14px high? 15.32.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.32.56 # (too lazy to check) 15.36.16 # dongs: I think it's 16 15.36.33 # not sure though... 15.37.24 Quit nudelyn ("At Argon, we're working to keep your money.") 15.38.37 # well 15.38.53 # you should know since you adjusted unicatcher wps lines to fit, right? 15.39.07 # :) 15.39.20 # well, I just tested the results... 15.39.37 # what I see from the screendumps is 16 15.39.41 # k 15.40.41 # Warning: DWIDTH spec > max FONTBOUNDINGBOX 15.40.42 Join nudelyn [0] (i=nudel@dyn-62-56-118-146.dslaccess.co.uk) 15.40.47 # would be nice if it told what char it failed at 15.42.13 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.47.50 # there 15.48.08 # now owrks good 15.49.04 # Genre9mp3: it was possible to build the gigabeat sim, but it might be broken right now. Will fix it after the weekend. 15.50.13 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.51.20 # http://pbx.mine.nu/dump1.png & http://pbx.mine.nu/dump2.png loosk good 15.51.26 # does anyone have any idea how i would go about removing a corrupted directory on my iriver? when i try rm after mounting it i get an I/O error 15.51.59 # gotta see why 'g' is cut off 15.52.02 # steveb: use a disk checker on it, like fsck.vfat or chkdsk ? 15.52.12 # oh that might work 15.52.33 # Genre9mp3's WPS sure rocks 15.52.56 # I agree with markun, it gets my vote for a default WPS. :P 16.03.03 # where can we vite fir default WPS ? 16.03.22 # (vote for ?) 16.03.23 # i dont think you can jsut yet 16.03.51 # funny...JPEG viewer crashed rockbox when loading a BMP file 16.03.56 # huhuhuhu 16.05.07 # fuk. 16.06.30 Join qwx [0] (n=qwm@h147n2fls32o1010.telia.com) 16.08.27 # * ericmoritz\0 wonders if anyone uses the uisimulator as a media player on their desktop 16.08.55 # mpd all the way 16.09.23 # surly using uisimulator would just be a bit... weird 16.10.20 # I was using it yesturday, it wasn't that bad 16.10.52 # at least it'll do gapless 16.10.59 # which no music players on Linux do properly 16.13.03 # rorf. 16.13.12 # media on lunix 16.13.14 # who are you kidding 16.13.38 # now if I can just hack it to use the touch pad on my laptop to work like the scroll wheel on the iPod 16.14.32 # req: icatcher with a 12pt font 16.14.33 # :( 16.15.52 Join andypandy [0] (i=opera@202.150.118.130) 16.16.18 Part andypandy 16.17.51 Quit ericmoritz\0 ("Leaving") 16.18.30 Quit qwm (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.20.45 Nick Mikaelh is now known as Mikachu (i=Mikachu@kr-lun-154-152-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com) 16.39.43 Join Romanos [0] (n=Romanos_@host-87-74-130-169.bulldogdsl.com) 16.41.52 Quit Romanos (Client Quit) 16.47.36 Quit RedBreva ("Chatzilla 0.9.72 [Firefox 1.5.0.3/2006042618]") 16.50.38 Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.2/2006030804]") 16.52.22 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@88.134.20.76) 16.54.01 Join solexx [0] (n=jrschulz@d127226.adsl.hansenet.de) 16.56.22 Quit dj-fu ("Leaving") 16.57.26 Join dj-fu [0] (n=deejay@202-89-150-179.ubs.qsi.net.nz) 17.00.13 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 17.09.03 Join akaidiota [0] (n=not@84-217-80-191.tn.glocalnet.net) 17.10.48 Quit obo ("bye") 17.13.53 Join BABEL [0] (i=Babel@host67-30.pool8248.interbusiness.it) 17.15.35 Join webguest27 [0] (n=52395898@labb.contactor.se) 17.17.44 Join Spacksaw [0] (n=Acksaw@spc1-stok5-0-0-cust770.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) 17.17.44 Quit webguest27 (Client Quit) 17.18.13 Quit Acksaw (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.18.16 Join gvoc [0] (n=52395898@labb.contactor.se) 17.19.18 Part BABEL ("Sto andando via") 17.22.47 Quit gvoc (Client Quit) 17.22.47 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.24.31 Join qwm [0] (n=qwm@h147n2fls32o1010.telia.com) 17.25.12 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp121-54.adsl.forthnet.gr) 17.25.27 # God I hate BSODs 17.25.54 # you can change the color 17.26.03 # really? 17.26.16 # well, you could in 9x anyway 17.26.28 # * XavierGr googles 17.26.43 Quit akaidiot (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.27.16 # found it hehe 17.27.25 # now I will never see a BSOD again 17.28.53 # evar! 17.32.13 Join TCK [0] (n=tckocr@81-179-76-84.dsl.pipex.com) 17.32.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.34.02 Quit qwx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.38.31 # mikearthur: bmp plays gapless for me (only tried ogg vorbis) http://beep-media-player.org 17.39.01 # markun: nice 17.39.30 # audacious is newer than bmp 17.39.52 # ie, bmp is discontinued and audacious is a fork of it 17.39.59 # http://audacious-media-player.org/Main_Page 17.43.05 # Mikachu: does it also playback without gaps? 17.43.15 # it has the crossfade plugin 17.43.19 # so? 17.43.41 # I'll try it when I get home 17.44.06 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 17.45.59 # bmp is discontinued because the Dev's switched to bmpx 17.53.03 Join dpro [0] (n=x@chello080109121047.8.15.vie.surfer.at) 17.53.45 Join aegray [0] (n=aegray@12.208.67.66) 17.56.36 Quit aegray (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.58.46 Join aegray [0] (n=aegray@12.210.86.210) 17.59.31 Quit PaulJam (".") 18.01.43 # http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=44275&st=0 <- finally a good aac encoder 18.03.15 # I thought the nero stuff were lisence incompatible? 18.03.23 # *license 18.03.33 # *was 18.03.36 # ;) 18.04.03 # closed source 18.04.05 # no clue about the license but the topic is written as "Free" 18.05.35 # I seem to remember some nero code that was "open source" but we could not use it 18.08.51 # well it seems they haven't changed the license but they will release a closed linux encoder 18.09.01 # cli-encoder 18.14.52 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 18.16.45 Join nayr [0] (n=ryan@24-50-57-75.sbtnvt.adelphia.net) 18.17.14 # hello 18.19.33 # * amiconn wonders whether he'll ever be able to rip cds on linux 18.20.07 Join RaeNye [0] (n=c7cb43c9@labb.contactor.se) 18.20.23 # amiconn: why wouldn't you be? it's a lot simpler than in windows 18.20.27 # Hya 18.20.53 # Mikachu: In theory, perhaps 18.20.56 # title... does, "The Plague and Pestilence" sound good? 18.21.13 # i think typing "abcde" is easy enough 18.21.18 # On windows I use EAC. I would like something similar on linux. SOmeone recommended grip 18.21.36 # er... pestilence should just work too. 18.21.43 # ...but I can't install it on my debian-amd64 because of a broken dependency 18.21.51 Join _Veseliq_ [0] (n=veseliq@195.85.215.210) 18.21.51 # ah, debian 18.21.57 # I even reported the bug, but...nothing 18.22.27 # i've never used debian on my own computer 18.22.43 # but i know i don't like binary deps 18.22.50 # On debian-x86 the problem is fixed, but not on amd64 18.23.49 # Bagder: are you alive? 18.24.36 # amiconn: it's installed okay here - amd64, using sid - I can't remember if I had to jump through any hoops to get it on 18.24.41 Quit _Veseliq_ (Remote closed the connection) 18.25.39 Join _Veseliq_ [0] (n=veseliq@195.85.215.210) 18.25.49 Quit _Veseliq_ (Remote closed the connection) 18.25.54 # sid beingwhat? 18.26.06 # debian sid 18.26.11 # * amiconn never remembers the strange codenames 18.26.22 # I'm running testing. 18.26.23 # sid = unstable 18.26.39 # ah so you're complaining about linux in general, based on running debian testing 18.26.43 # or rather unstable is always named sid 18.28.08 # I don't complain about linux in general, I complain about my ability or inability to rip, on my system 18.28.41 # This dependency problem seems to be around for months 18.29.05 # Dependency problems also was what made me move away from unstable, towards testing 18.29.37 # * RaeNye snaps his finger 18.29.39 Quit RaeNye ("CGI:IRC 0.5.7 (2005/06/19)") 18.29.44 Join _Veseliq_ [0] (n=veseliq@195.85.215.210) 18.29.47 Join Ribs [0] (n=ribs@riblet.plus.com) 18.29.56 # grr 18.29.58 Join Davide-NYC [0] (n=chatzill@user-12hdtm5.cable.mindspring.com) 18.30.07 # why must rockbox use FAT32? 18.30.23 # why can't it use a sane filesystem, like ext2? 18.30.28 # ? 18.30.40 # preglow? 18.30.51 # Need any testing? 18.30.55 # since when do filesystems have sentience? 18.30.58 # Rockbox uses fat32 because it's a simple filesystem, and is supported by virtually all operating systems 18.31.08 # fat32 = cross platform 18.31.12 # (basically) 18.31.53 # cross platform, simple (=needs little resources, which is a concern on a mobile device) 18.32.08 # Some targets even require fat32 in order to boot 18.32.09 # <_Veseliq_> damn, i wish that Rockbox supported MSI Mega View > http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/ia/ia/pro_ia_detail.php?UID=616 18.33.03 # <_Veseliq_> its firmware sux like hell 18.33.06 # hmph 18.33.24 # Fat32 is the fs from somwhere around the stonage... 18.33.29 # no file permissions... 18.33.34 # stone age 18.33.55 # Why would you need file permissions on a mobile device???? 18.34.24 # heheheh... 18.34.27 # <_Veseliq_> linux cant write to ntfs with no probs and ext2/3 are not directly supported by win 18.34.41 # <_Veseliq_> there is lots of logic using fat32... 18.34.43 # because win sucks... 18.34.49 # _Veseliq_: Add MacOS and others to the mix... 18.34.49 # <_Veseliq_> win sucks 18.34.51 # <_Veseliq_> but... 18.34.58 # <_Veseliq_> amiconn, never ever used mac 18.35.03 # none of which have to do with FAT32 18.35.13 # <_Veseliq_> linux on my pc, used to be a win user 18.35.24 # Me neither (at least nothing ppc, only a very little experience with macos 7) 18.35.27 # <_Veseliq_> fat32 is the only solution to this point 18.35.31 # linux is fine 18.35.43 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3092.gwdg.de) 18.35.56 # I only wish win would dump ms-dos, and join the modern worl 18.35.58 # world* 18.36.04 # But I do access my rockboxes from amigaos from time to time 18.36.10 # also, the registry wouldn't be a bad thing to kill either :) 18.36.22 # The registry is basically a good idea 18.36.57 # That it isn't always used as intended is another story 18.37.05 Join lee-qid__ [0] (n=liqid@p54966F54.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.38.02 Quit Davide-NYC ("Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.3/2006042618]") 18.38.24 # I use windows, linux and amigaos. Each of them has its pros and cons, I wouldn't say one of them 'sucks' 18.39.03 # * Mikachu is listening to Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie - Every OS Sucks (0:01 / 4:45) 18.40.33 # "12:34 < amiconn> The registry is basically a good idea" 18.40.35 # * nayr snorts 18.41.01 # oh boy... 18.42.27 Quit nayr (Remote closed the connection) 18.44.49 # is anyone considering porting rockbox to sony players^? 18.45.04 # they are so full of DRM one can not even copy files decently :) 18.45.38 # then noone should by those players 18.45.55 # i agree..and I don't own one =) 18.46.06 # my h340 is all I could ask for 18.46.40 # just wondering..since I have a friend who loves rockbox but owns a sony 18.49.31 # Mikachu: Hahahaha. 18.49.33 # * amiconn just checked out that song 18.49.43 # :) 18.49.46 Join qwx [0] (n=qwm@h147n2fls32o1010.telia.com) 18.56.36 Quit lee-qid__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.57.37 Join jaebird [0] (n=jae@03-210.netblk-38-96-210.coolaccess.net) 18.59.44 Join _Lucretia_ [0] (n=munkee@dyn-62-56-104-78.dslaccess.co.uk) 19.00.51 Join hardeep [0] (i=hardeeps@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG) 19.01.30 Quit chang ("So long, and thanks for all the fish !") 19.04.02 Quit qwm (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.06.36 Join RedBreva [0] (n=chatzill@host81-158-212-229.range81-158.btcentralplus.com) 19.07.29 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 19.14.44 Join qwm [0] (n=qwm@h147n2fls32o1010.telia.com) 19.23.57 Quit qwx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.29.14 # lostlogic: new bug reported on wiki page -- stopping after pausing a track hangs the device 19.32.42 # we should have a program that monitors the bug reports and announces here when it's reported. 19.32.48 # er, new ones. 19.32.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.33.15 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 19.33.46 # you can receive the mailing list notifications 19.34.04 # i know 19.34.31 # it was just a somewhat interesting idea. 19.35.03 Quit muesli__ ("ich will Kühe!!!") 19.41.12 Quit Genre9mp3 ("Leaving") 19.42.10 # you know, those webpages that are seemingly generated for a certain collection of key words, are kind of funny. 19.42.53 # like this one. http://www.ev0ila.com/endemic-plague.html "MonsterLocal.com has your ENDEMIC PLAGUE" 19.42.55 # that's stupid. 19.43.25 # "Shop for Endemic Plague" 19.43.59 # "The latest endemic plague tools right here" 19.44.17 # "we have one of the best endemic plague one-stop-shop sites on the web - visit us today." 19.44.25 # it just makes me laugh sometimes... 19.45.36 # so much for finding information on the plague. 19.50.00 Nick bluey is now known as bluey- (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-108-099.pools.arcor-ip.net) 19.55.05 Join redsea_41 [0] (n=redsea_4@85.106.198.167) 20.01.48 Part redsea_41 20.02.02 Join qwx [0] (n=qwm@h147n2fls32o1010.telia.com) 20.07.42 # sharpe: too bad somebody just made money by you clicking to that link 20.09.24 # oh well. 20.10.01 # I'm sure he'll get over it :> 20.10.15 # * Ribs would like to make another statement, tho he has already made many to the same affect: 20.10.22 # ROCKBOX IS THE L33T! 20.10.30 # Thank you. 20.11.44 # hmm... should i italicize Yersinia pestis in my paper? 20.11.58 Quit qwm (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.13.36 # lostlogic: a little more info for that problem. it looks like we're getting stuck inside the loop in pcmbuf_flush_fillpos() called by pcmbuf_write_complete() which we can't get out of until playback is resumed 20.16.40 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@88.134.20.76) 20.16.44 Nick bluey- is now known as bluey^awy (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-108-099.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.22.09 # boredom... 20.27.45 # hardeep: Maybe this is the same problem causing the freeze on quick play-stop? 20.28.28 Join lee-qid__ [0] (n=liqid@p549673CF.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.28.59 # amiconn: hmmm, dunno, let me check 20.29.36 # btw, h300 sim with insight on cygwin is incredibly useful for investigating these issues 20.30.17 # What's insight? 20.30.28 # visual debugger 20.30.40 # aha 20.30.49 # not as good as visual studio but still decent 20.31.14 # Visual studio is a bit too integrated for my taste 20.31.28 # (says amiconn, who usually prefers gui over commandline) 20.31.46 # i only use the debugger, and i haven't found anything better on windows or linux 20.31.58 # hmmm ... does cvs have any problems lately ? 20.32.13 # dpro: was working for me around 30m ago 20.32.48 # hardeep: ah ok , I'm just trying to update but it seems to hang .. I'll see 20.33.14 Quit RedBreva (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.34.02 # lostlogic are you here? 20.34.30 # ah here we go 20.35.26 # amiconn: i can't reproduce the quick play-stop issue... do I need to do something more then playing a track and immediately stopping? 20.35.55 Quit Moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.38.07 # hardeep: Not that I know of. I got that freeze only once (but then I usually don' start-stop in quick succession) 20.39.26 # only problem i'm seeing is that it forgets the directory it was in and exits back to root 20.39.50 # (probably related to follow playlist being on) 20.40.49 Join goa [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 20.41.09 Join webguest70 [0] (n=519b3849@labb.contactor.se) 20.41.15 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m43.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 20.42.09 Quit webguest70 (Client Quit) 20.42.21 Quit goa (Client Quit) 20.43.42 Join [TCK] [0] (i=TCK@81-179-76-84.dsl.pipex.com) 20.45.59 Quit akaidiota ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 20.46.01 Join goa [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 20.47.12 Quit Hansmaulwurf ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 20.51.38 Join akaidiot [0] (n=not@84-217-80-191.tn.glocalnet.net) 20.56.35 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-87-20.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.06.50 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.11.21 Join Hansmaulwurf [0] (n=maerlyn@p50818C91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.12.01 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.16.57 Join qwm [0] (n=qwm@h147n2fls32o1010.telia.com) 21.16.59 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (i=Steve-O@adsl-66-142-170-219.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 21.23.22 # * dpro goes to dj with rockbox :) 21.23.28 # * dpro like now 21.23.35 # l8r 21.24.34 Join DarkJesus [0] (n=shane@cpc1-gree2-0-0-cust487.brnt.cable.ntl.com) 21.26.46 Quit qwx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.32.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.33.43 Join rotator [0] (n=e@rockbox/developer/rotator) 21.38.07 Quit Pi (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.39.53 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 21.40.37 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.44.12 Join RedBreva [0] (n=chatzill@host81-158-212-229.range81-158.btcentralplus.com) 21.44.22 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A45862.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.47.20 Quit _FireFly_ (Client Quit) 21.55.19 Join Nebb [0] (n=futures@kinson.demon.co.uk) 21.55.31 # hey - any news on the rockboy nano port? 21.56.33 Join marc_in_lux [0] (n=gergesm@cable-83.217.130.243.coditel.net) 21.56.44 # good evening 21.57.01 Join qwx [0] (n=qwm@h147n2fls32o1010.telia.com) 21.57.45 # anyone? 21.58.34 # part of my nano's space is reserved for podcasts. Is there a way to create playlists with items sorted by date? 22.03.24 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (i=steve-o@adsl-66-142-170-219.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 22.05.49 Quit akaidiot (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.06.37 Join doc_inferno [0] (n=doc_infe@41.250.16.182) 22.07.07 # goodnight 22.09.21 Quit qwm (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.09.28 Quit doc_inferno ("ChatZilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.3/2006042618]") 22.11.37 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 22.16.58 Join qwm [0] (n=qwm@h147n2fls32o1010.telia.com) 22.18.50 Quit DarkJesus ("Leaving") 22.20.37 Join Pi [0] (n=amar@80-41-243-113.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 22.24.10 Join marc_in_lux_ [0] (n=gergesm@cable-83.217.130.243.coditel.net) 22.24.46 Quit marc_in_lux (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.27.28 Quit qwx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.32.39 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 22.37.06 # hardeep: ah, I can definitely look into that... tomorrow I'm dedicating to rockbox... 22.39.06 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.39.55 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 22.40.05 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-87-20.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) 22.51.58 # <_Veseliq_> http://modreactor.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=29 22.53.02 Join BHSPitMonkey_ [0] (i=steve-o@adsl-67-64-147-168.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 22.53.35 # sweet bunnys ;) 22.53.38 Join BHSPitLappy2 [0] (i=Steve-O@adsl-67-64-147-168.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 22.53.38 *** Alert Mode level 1 22.53.38 DBUG Enqueued KICK BHSPitLappy 22.53.38 DBUG Enqueued KICK BHSPitMonkey 22.53.38 *** Alert Mode level 2 22.53.38 DBUG Enqueued KICK BHSPitMonkey_ 22.53.38 DBUG Enqueued KICK BHSPitLappy2 22.53.38 *** Alert Mode level 3 22.54.29 Quit muesli__ ("ich will Kühe!!!") 22.54.50 # <_Veseliq_> I was at my grands house in the mountain (: 22.55.09 # <_Veseliq_> havent been there for 2 years and made some pics 23.01.11 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@88.134.20.76) 23.03.39 *** Alert Mode OFF 23.06.22 Join qwx [0] (n=qwm@h147n2fls32o1010.telia.com) 23.06.33 Quit qwm (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.06.57 Join muesli- [0] (n=muesli_t@88.134.20.76) 23.07.12 # i think tomorrow will be my day of entertainment. 23.08.32 Quit muesli__ ("ich will Kühe!!!") 23.09.09 # does somebody use google mail? 23.09.33 # i do 23.09.45 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.09.56 # i do 23.09.56 # how do i upload files? didnt see any button :o 23.10.23 # for an attachment? 23.10.35 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.10.46 # no..just to dump some files there 23.10.56 # dont want to attach 400mb 23.11.00 # send an email to yourself 23.11.06 # :) 23.11.08 Quit midkay ("Leaving") 23.11.32 # so thats the only possibilty? 23.11.35 # yeh 23.11.46 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23.11.47 # do you use windows or linux? 23.12.17 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3034.gwdg.de) 23.12.18 # cos theres a firefox extension that enables file uploads. it says transfer 100% ok but dont find the files. windows 23.12.40 Join Rincewind [0] (i=Miranda@Ecee1.e.pppool.de) 23.13.07 Quit Hansmaulwurf ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 23.13.23 # you could use a (shell?) extension called "gmail drive" ... i think... but, it will handle everything to have your gmail account act as a drive. 23.13.48 # its called gspace 23.13.51 # i haven't used it in a long time... 23.13.53 # looks like a ftp client 23.14.10 # gmail drive shell extension, http://www.viksoe.dk/code/gmail.htm 23.14.29 # that's wicked interesting... 23.14.59 # does anybody know if it is possible to replace a broken line-out plug in the h120? 23.15.12 # unbreak it? 23.15.46 # woo, on page four of my paper... 23.15.52 # i mean, the plastic of the plug is broken inside 23.16.04 # ah... 23.16.17 # buy a new rca jack and solder it on? 23.16.29 Nick BHSPitLappy2 is now known as BHSPitLappy (i=Steve-O@adsl-67-64-147-168.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 23.16.29 DBUG Enqueued KICK BHSPitLappy 23.16.32 # where did jack come from... 23.17.04 # what do you mean? 23.17.17 # sharpe ive already uploaded some files before. but how do i access on the googles website??? 23.17.34 Quit [TCK] (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.17.40 # are you using that firefox extension, or the gmail drive? 23.17.48 # gmail drive 23.18.06 # it puts them in your inbox, right? 23.18.16 # if i remember correctly... 23.18.36 # Rincewind: erm, you're probably going to have to replace the little plastic thing... 23.18.47 Part Paul_The_Nerd 23.19.04 # sharpe nope 23.19.13 # shouldn't "line selector: pointer/bar" be in a saved .cfg file? 23.19.42 # muesli-: is there a label for gmailfs ? 23.19.47 # i know, i was asking if it is possible to solder an new (or not new) plug on or if solder pads are hidden behind the display or something 23.19.55 # oh. 23.20.06 # well, i'm not the one to ask about that. :D 23.20.29 # k, i think i post it on misticriver sometime 23.20.50 Join webguest23 [0] (n=3efc0007@labb.contactor.se) 23.21.02 # right now i don't want to open my player anyway. This has to wait until i need a new battery 23.21.36 # advice for anyone: don't give your player to drunk people :( 23.21.39 Join stevenm [0] (n=stevenm@infranelson.student.umd.edu) 23.21.51 # and should the sims actually save some data in the config file, if you ask it to write one? 23.22.07 # interesting...with EQ on on my ipod...i hear clicking when I change volume 23.22.19 # Hey guys. How would I test if a file exists on the hard drive? 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I use Tag&Rename 23.38.50 # It pulls album art and reviews 23.39.17 # not really happy - although I mostly listen in the car, where 128 is fine, when I listen through headphones I hear too much artifact 23.39.26 # maybe it is a good idea to include the freedb disc ID in 23.39.59 Ctcp Ignored 5 channel CTCP requests in 22 minutes and 51 seconds at the last flood 23.39.59 # * scottder hands Luggage to Rincewind 23.39.59 # :) 23.40.00 # Camilo: don't forget to use the latest autov (or whatelse) version 23.40.12 # :-) 23.40.12 # I'll be doing the tagging from scratch (linux). I have a perl script that pulls the tag info from cddb but haven't decided where to put it yet. 23.40.23 # it's essential 23.40.31 # with the latest ops I have great luck even at q3 for music 23.40.40 # bluey^awy, autov - is that the gain control stuff?# 23.41.28 # no i'm speaking of the modded Encoder 23.41.57 # I'll get the latest oggenc 23.42.03 # not the official one 23.42.04 # http://www.geocities.jp/aoyoume/aotuv/ 23.42.05 # w8 23.42.07 # thx 23.42.12 # from there 23.42.17 # I'll check it out, thanks 23.42.18 # I personnally use lame mp3 vbr-new q3 23.43.12 # i think autov has even beated Musepack at Q5 23.43.57 # Can anyone tell me what the deal with the keymappings is? I need to test if up/down is being pressed in a plugin, and if so, adjust the volume. How would I go about doing this? 23.44.05 # almost done with my paper... 23.44.12 # stevenm: look at any other plugin 23.44.16 # rb->get_button(false); or true for blocking 23.44.33 # or is it buttons... 23.45.13 # nope, it-s rb->button_get(false); 23.45.27 # i corrected myself, yay! 23.45.32 # nice work 23.45.39 # and i'm also almost done with the fourth page! yay! 23.46.52 Quit lee-qid__ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 23.47.02 # aah thanks guys 23.47.24 # Thanks for your help everyone 23.47.29 Quit Camilo ("Leaving") 23.50.29 Quit marc_in_lux_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.52.18 # scottder: beta4.51 is the latest one? 23.53.21 # I believe so.....i am using one someone on Hydrogren Audio built with an optimzied compiler 23.53.41 Join Rincewind_12 [0] (i=Miranda@pD9FC8167.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 23.54.35 # you'll probably get better quality the less optimization you use 23.54.45 Join qwm [0] (n=qwm@h147n2fls32o1010.telia.com) 23.55.09 # lol not really 23.55.11 Quit Gargamale ("Get MacIrssi - http://www.g1m0.se/macirssi/") 23.55.21 # http://tinyurl.com/qngnz 23.55.25 # those optimized version's are only compiled with arch optimizations 23.55.27 # but it's for windoze 23.55.34 # yeah what bluey^awy 23.55.49 # at the end, it will produce the same file 23.56.06 # I get pretty good speeds (I rip to flace, then I transcode for one the go)