--- Log for 21.05.106 Server: clarke.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot- Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 26 days ago 00.04.12 Join solexx [0] (n=jrschulz@e176105012.adsl.alicedsl.de) 00.04.59 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 00.05.01 Join scottder [0] (n=sdexter@ip70-188-142-96.ri.ri.cox.net) 00.06.32 Quit RedBreva^ ("CGI:IRC") 00.07.57 Quit Ribs ("Leaving") 00.09.12 Join solexx_ [0] (n=jrschulz@e176107036.adsl.alicedsl.de) 00.11.28 Join practor [0] (n=practor@2.108.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch) 00.11.32 # hello folks 00.11.44 # nihao 00.12.08 # i'm using the latest rockbox for my nano and i've noticed that when i unplug from the USB port, i get a warning logo saying my battery is low 00.12.24 # at which point, i need to reboot the nano then it works fine. anyone else seen this before? 00.13.49 Quit Vladoman (Connection timed out) 00.14.24 Quit solexx__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.17.44 # LORDI! 00.18.04 # *g* 00.18.22 # Though Ukraine had hotter chix 00.18.42 # yeah, the Lordi Chicks were ugly ;) 00.19.05 Join Akhen [0] (n=akhen@cust.12.215.adsl.cistron.nl) 00.19.41 Nick t0mas_ is now known as t0mas (n=tomas@ip503c08d1.speed.planet.nl) 00.21.07 Quit solexx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.21.45 Join solexx [0] (n=jrschulz@e176111115.adsl.alicedsl.de) 00.23.12 Join powerrangersfan1 [0] (n=chatzill@ip70-179-116-87.dc.dc.cox.net) 00.23.36 # hello can someone help me 00.23.43 Quit practor (Remote closed the connection) 00.23.53 # powerrangersfan1: whats the issue... 00.23.55 # powerrangersfan1: with...? 00.24.02 # I can try to help....no promises 00.24.06 # :) 00.24.08 # i am sort of cautious with cox.net hosts now 00.24.16 # well if you can i download the ipod video download "daily build" what do i do now? 00.24.25 Quit RedBreva (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.24.28 Join Vladoman [0] (n=Vladoman@dsl-cus-098-041.de.clara.net) 00.24.32 # Mikachu: just ones from Phoenix :) 00.24.40 # i read the manual and it just confusing to me 00.24.41 # you never know :) 00.24.45 # powerrangersfan1: did you install the bootloader? 00.24.47 # he had brasilian ips too 00.24.51 Quit mirak (Remote closed the connection) 00.24.54 # were do i find that? 00.25.26 # what OS do you use? 00.25.32 # mac os x 00.25.42 # Mikachu: he put his HTTPS server back up :) 00.25.50 # my ipod is in "macintosh format" 00.26.03 # cause i did try to install ipodlinux but i could not get that to work 00.26.19 # powerrangersfan1: read this, i dont know much about ipod install, have another player, but i should help you 00.26.21 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationFromMacOSX 00.26.39 # ok 00.27.12 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-79-219.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 00.27.21 Quit solexx_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.27.31 # well i am going away so i can read everyting! 00.27.54 # btw any screen shots of what it will look like? 00.28.08 # look at the wps gallery 00.28.13 # Does anyone knows where can i download "DeDRMS" and "FairKeys"? 00.28.40 # * scottder checks if this is a music piracy channel 00.28.41 # nope 00.28.42 # :) 00.29.14 # powerrangersfan1: with rockbox you can define your display by your own, here are some examples 00.29.17 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpod5g 00.29.48 # ok i am checking it now and installing it but will have to reformat everything on my ipod 00.30.26 Join solexx_ [0] (n=jrschulz@e176115008.adsl.alicedsl.de) 00.30.42 # Me, I have a simple mod of the default WPS....green text on black background...works great :) 00.30.42 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodMacOSInstaller 00.30.50 # i found something better 00.31.21 # hm yeah 00.31.24 # looks easier ;) 00.31.39 # why are there two install-wikis? 00.31.42 # someone knows? 00.31.46 # so what do i do use the one you gave me or the one i found? 00.31.56 # scottder: I'm looking for that tool to free the music i legally bought from itunes 00.31.58 # wich is easer btw i have mac format ipod not fat format 00.32.49 # your site 00.32.58 # Aghaster: This is a good place to start looking: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FairPlay 00.33.10 # but i cant help you with the install, i have a iriver player 00.33.15 # thanks 00.33.16 # Aghaster: last I checked....nothing worked on Music bought with Itunes above 6.0 00.33.23 # Best of luck with that 00.33.37 # :/ i do not remember exact version 00.33.40 # ok i will try it but how do i convert to fat format? 00.33.56 # Well I believe it'de dependant on the version you are running now 00.34.03 # but I could be wrong.... 00.34.07 Quit Hansmaulwurf ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 00.34.11 # I save the hassle and just buy CDs :) 00.34.22 # Hansmaulwurf: That Mac installer is "unofficial" - the IpodInstallationFromMacOS page is the only official installation page. 00.34.41 # powerrangersfan1: The installation page tells you how to do that. 00.35.44 Quit Thijs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.35.55 # oh 00.36.08 # so i need to go downstars and get on a windows pc brb 00.36.45 # You don't have to use WIndows to convert it, but it's a lot easier if you can. 00.37.15 # * scottder just loves being able to play ogg vorbis on his ipod :) 00.37.37 # well widnows pc is easery then doing it the hard way 00.37.50 # Indeed. 00.37.53 # i hope it all works 00.38.07 # ipodlinux did not work on video so i am trying it on rockbox 00.42.22 Quit Vladoman (Connection timed out) 00.42.54 # rockbox works 00.44.07 Quit solexx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.44.45 # we know :) 00.45.45 # what it works? O RLLY? hehe 00.46.08 Join webguest97 [0] (n=51400b8c@labb.contactor.se) 00.46.09 # YA RLLY! 00.46.12 Nick Kohlriba is now known as Kohlrabi (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-141-143.pools.arcor-ip.net) 00.46.22 # :) 00.46.50 # Hello rockbox 00.47.13 Quit XavierGr_ () 00.47.16 # can someone xith cvs access can commit this great patch: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5394 00.47.30 # good to have before a release 00.47.56 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp119-101.adsl.forthnet.gr) 00.47.58 # wow, i have drunk too much, sorry for typing :) 00.48.35 # good night for european rockbox guys 00.48.39 Quit webguest97 (Client Quit) 00.50.21 Quit solexx_ (Connection timed out) 00.50.24 # woo, done with 1/16 of the cpu instructions for the i8080 00.51.50 Join snaker [0] (n=snaker@87.218.150.253) 00.51.53 # hi 00.52.44 # how to can i load original firmware of ipod with rockbox bootloader? what key? thx 00.52.55 # while booting, hold menu 00.53.11 # thanks sharpe 00.53.11 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ 00.53.49 # heheh... 0x14 out of 0xFF opcodes done... yay for hex... 00.55.46 # What's the resolution of space invaders? 00.55.55 # uno momento 00.56.14 # 224x256 i believe 00.56.59 # Just too high for the 5g - unless you rotate it like pacbox. 00.57.11 # what i was thinking of doing 00.57.14 Join Falco98 [0] (n=18586afa@labb.contactor.se) 01.00.43 # * Falco98 listens to the crickets chirp... 01.01.34 Quit mikearthur (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.03.43 # * petur is backdropless and wonders why 01.04.20 # any lemon trees nearby? 01.04.28 # can i listen to music that is on my ipod through rockbox or do i need to boot into apple to get music 01.04.44 # music is the main selling point of rockbox 01.05.20 # oh but do i need to load in into rockbox or can it be loading onto my ipod by itunes? 01.05.41 # maybe we should call it doombox!? lol 01.05.57 # 32 out of ~255 opcodes done... 01.06.01 # i am installing right now! useing the installer 01.06.48 # so nobody did anwser my question how do i load music on to rockbox so i can listen to music? 01.06.50 # powerrangersfan1: "TagCache" will index files transferred via itunes - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TagCache 01.07.12 # The FAQ is also helpful: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ 01.08.08 # powerrangersfan1: the simple answer to your question is you can use music loaded by iTunes, and you can also listen to music you load yourself (which you couldn't listen to with the iPod firmware even) 01.09.00 # the caveat is (as linuxstb just said) you must use TagCache to read the tag info from your iTunes files, as their proper filenames are gibberish invented by the iTunes software upon loading 01.09.03 # ok 01.09.34 # i will reply about tagcache affter i load my music 20.GB all night 01.09.40 # however, you might find, once you're running rockbox, that you don't really feel like using itunes anomore :) 01.12.15 # btw how do you switch from rockbox to apple os 01.13.04 Quit powerrangersfan1 ("Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.3/2006042618]") 01.13.14 # whoops 01.13.23 # left for a sec.. hopefully he'll figure it out heh 01.14.57 # anyway, i hope everyone will check out my latest patch here: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5344 01.15.22 # it seems to work perfectly now, after a couple of tries :-P 01.15.43 # though if anyone can break it, i'd like to hear 01.16.36 # linuxstb: do you want me to update my patch regarding remote scroll options? 01.16.48 # dinner time.. later all 01.16.50 Quit Falco98 ("CGI:IRC") 01.17.11 # Cool idea Falco98 01.17.13 # Opps he's gone 01.17.14 # :) 01.18.31 # XavierGr: Yes, I think your patch now needs to undo my patch... :) 01.18.46 # But I'm going to leave it to markun to commit. 01.18.54 # Dueling patches? 01.19.32 Quit Kohlrabi ("Fast alle Menschen sind Regenwürmer") 01.21.53 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-121-23.VIC.netspace.net.au) 01.23.05 # ok thanks 01.26.55 Join webguest51 [0] (n=47308dbe@labb.contactor.se) 01.27.12 Join Novus [0] (n=Novus@c-67-190-63-114.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 01.27.51 # i extracted the rockbox.zip file to ipod nano but im still getting the apple firmware when i reboot.. 01.27.51 Quit webguest51 (Client Quit) 01.30.33 Quit ACK54W ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 01.32.36 # painstakingly long process... 01.33.00 # the size of whales 01.33.07 Part ashridah ("Leaving") 01.33.09 # any ideas? 01.34.31 Quit Novus ("—I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— 2.0 Build 2520") 01.37.29 Quit YouCeyE ("Leaving") 01.37.52 Join YouCeyE [0] (n=YouCeyE@unaffiliated/youceye) 01.38.22 Quit ender` (" It is difficult to produce a television documentary that is both incisive and probing when every twelve minutes one is interr") 01.40.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.42.03 Join Novus [0] (n=Novus@c-67-190-63-114.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 01.42.22 Quit anathema () 01.42.32 Quit maeck ("Chatzilla 0.9.65 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20060202]") 01.42.47 # wtf, i dowloaded rockbox zip and still get apple firmware 01.43.18 # when i rebooot!! 01.44.25 # i extraced it to my ipod i got the folders that it says 01.44.34 # and it still won't bloody work 01.45.38 # what messages does the bootloader output before it boots retail os? 01.47.13 # loading firmware 01.47.31 # and then goes back to apple settings 01.47.41 # is there anything like, "error: -1" ? 01.47.46 # no 01.48.07 # are you holding menu while it's booting? 01.48.48 # yeah but now it just goes straight back to apple firmware 01.49.28 # are you sure 'rockbox.ipod' is in the root of the drive? 01.49.39 # yes 01.49.42 # «earHertz» 01.49.49 # drive e: 01.50.27 # should i delete the other folders like contacts, calender? 01.50.31 # well... does the bootloader say anything before it boots into the apple firmware? 01.50.35 # those shouldn't matter 01.50.54 # it doesn't show anything anymore 01.51.02 # it only said that when i did part e, testing 01.51.28 # er part g 01.51.37 # so when booting, you never see a blue screen even for a moment? 01.52.10 # no 01.52.22 # only once when i first installed 01.52.26 # booter 01.52.48 # have you restored your ipod after you've installed the bootloader? 01.54.44 # Novus: Have you rebooted your ipod? i.e. hold MENU and SELECT (the centre button) down together for a few seconds. 01.56.40 Join powerrangersfan1 [0] (n=chatzill@ip70-179-116-87.dc.dc.cox.net) 01.57.51 # i finnily have my ipod in windows mode now to install it 01.59.27 # oh no that did thanks guys for your help 01.59.35 # it only took me a few hours to do it 01.59.58 Quit powerrangersfan1 (Client Quit) 02.00.10 Quit akaidiota ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 02.02.18 Join german_snail [0] (n=s@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za) 02.07.50 # * Aghaster is currently freeing his itunes music :) 02.07.56 Join pjo [0] (n=pjo@i58-94-247-217.s02.a022.ap.plala.or.jp) 02.08.01 # Hello! 02.08.05 # hi pjo 02.08.31 # Pls advise where to place rockBox source codes for CygWin 02.09.00 # CygWin is installed 02.09.24 # You want to compile rockbox yourself? 02.09.39 # are you familiar with cygwin? 02.10.12 # actually I want to patch it with Album Art and scrolling text and EQ 02.10.40 # yeah, well, have you ever compiled anything? 02.10.47 # can I place the RB source using Windows or shall I download it with CygWin ? 02.11.07 # open up cygwin 02.11.09 # I have compiled many using Linux but not with CygWin 02.11.25 # the default directory in cygwin is located at c:/cygwin/home/ 02.11.33 # now I am at the root 02.11.51 # i'm currently on linux, i'm trying to remember cygwin 02.12.07 # check in c:/cygwin 02.12.11 # yeah my Linux FC5 does not work right now 02.12.17 # k 02.12.24 # you might try gentoo one day 02.12.32 # i promise you won't get back on windows lol 02.12.45 # CygWin is at I:\CygWin 02.12.55 # ok, and what are the subdirs? 02.13.16 # from what i remember, in /cygwin there is a directory in which there is a whole "linux" directory set 02.13.31 # sub dir is http%3a%2f%2fdownload.rockbox.org%2fcygwin%2f 02.13.49 # in I:\CygWin? 02.14.11 # oh wait there is c:cygwin too and there are UNIX sub dir 02.14.21 # okay 02.14.21 # phew... backdrop handling rewritten and looking good, wps backdrop seems to get loaded twice 02.14.29 # just look in the home/user dir 02.14.36 # thats where cygwin will pop out by default 02.14.40 # when you open it 02.14.47 # yes 02.14.51 # * petur needs some sleep 02.14.58 Quit petur ("Zzzz") 02.15.03 # so put the source code there 02.15.09 # and you'll easily find it 02.15.11 # in cygwinm 02.15.13 # to compile it 02.15.17 # under rockbox directory ? 02.15.29 # i haven't compiled rockbox myself 02.15.35 # and my help stops here 02.15.40 # ok 02.15.55 # i will make directory called rockbox 02.16.04 # yeah, that's correct 02.16.13 # compiling under windows is most of the time a pain 02.16.16 # BTW shall I use nightly build or CVS ? 02.16.18 # compared to linux compiling 02.16.26 Join powerrangersfan1 [0] (n=chatzill@ip70-179-116-87.dc.dc.cox.net) 02.16.32 # hum, nightly build will save you the time of compiling 02.16.41 # ok 02.16.42 # i cannot seem to get this way to work http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodMacOSInstaller 02.16.51 # cvs is the latest development version, but not compiled 02.16.52 # why....i am running tiger 02.17.00 # nightly build is a compilation of the cvs at each day 02.17.16 # powerrangersfan1: why not try using windows to do the install then 02.17.25 # or linux ;) 02.17.28 # how? 02.17.38 # Use the windows instructions :) 02.17.49 # i will still need that app? is it easer? 02.18.46 # I am confused where to find nightly build 02.18.56 # I found CVS though 02.19.08 Join JEEBUS87 [0] (n=Novus@c-67-190-63-114.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 02.19.49 # is nightly build here at http://www.rockbox.org/download/ ? 02.19.50 Quit snaker ("Ex-Chat") 02.19.53 # ummm...all of this seems to hard is there any GUI for windows to install of this? 02.20.14 # so if u want to put a wps, do u just extract to ur ipod hardrive? 02.20.32 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationFromMacOSX#Convert_an_iPod_from_HFS_to_FAT3 that is what i am following 02.21.11 # oh well i guss i am going to try it out and see if it works 02.21.16 Quit powerrangersfan1 ("Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.3/2006042618]") 02.22.19 # I found daily builds , not nightly builds 02.22.22 # how do u put music on just drag to ipod dirve? 02.23.12 # JEEBUS: are you using Linux, Windows, OS X ? 02.23.19 # windows 02.23.40 # Is your iPod iTuned ? 02.23.59 # yeah 02.24.40 # do you want your iPod to be caompatible with Apple firmware in addition to RockBox ? 02.24.59 # no just rockbox 02.25.35 # right now your music files are located in ipod_control\music\ 02.25.37 Quit Novus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.26.04 # and in music there are directoris with names like F02, F40, and so forth 02.26.21 # where is that? 02.26.25 # on rockbox? 02.26.43 # if you use yamipod you can easily place music files into iPod retaining this structure 02.26.55 # it is on iPod 02.27.11 # under which category 02.27.16 # did you connect your iPod and can you see iPod drive from Windows ? 02.27.42 # yeah 02.27.55 # how do u put themes on? 02.27.58 # make a change to Windows Explorer so that all hidden directories are displayed 02.28.16 # can you see iPod drive ? 02.28.22 # yeah 02.28.37 # i downloaded a wps off the gallery and extracted it to ipod drive? 02.28.38 # then go to iPod_control directory 02.28.46 # is that right 02.29.01 # now 02.29.27 # are you sure that you will never want to run Apple Firmware again ? 02.29.42 # yes 02.29.49 # RockBox for iPod is still beta 02.30.06 # and the target release is around November 02.30.27 # wtf when i go to themes 02.30.32 # and click on the theme 02.30.38 # it shows loading but does nothing 02.31.05 # did you try to play a song ? 02.31.17 # no i dunno how to put song on 02.31.32 Part falso 02.31.34 # but you said that your iPod is iTuned ? 02.31.45 # i dunno if it is 02.31.48 # there is no music in iPod ? 02.32.05 # if it is iTuned there must be music in it 02.32.13 # when i installed rockbox does it delete ur music? 02.32.31 # if there is no music , you can put music in any directory you want 02.32.50 # no installing RB does not delete preinstalled music 02.32.57 # how do i install rockbox on my ipod? i don't care about overwriting existing firmware 02.32.57 # or it that on the manual... 02.33.20 Quit JEEBUS87 ("—I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— 2.0 Build 2520") 02.33.36 # ou prepared in Windows, are they all mp3 ? 02.34.38 # yes there is a good tut on how to install RockBox 02.35.05 # are your music all mp3 ? 02.35.24 # AAC got problems in RockBox 02.36.43 # how to brows music is diffrent if you use iTunes 02.37.10 # if you do not use iTunes it is simple , just browse it and select it 02.39.04 # what are the current issues with rockbox for ipod? 02.39.21 Join webguest48 [0] (n=18586afa@labb.contactor.se) 02.39.25 # i want to go rockbox all the way, no more apple firmware 02.39.30 # but i want to know what won't work 02.39.43 # DRM and WMA, i guess 02.39.48 # video if you have an ipv 02.39.50 # i got a 4th gen ipod, with color display 02.39.57 # then again you might not have WMA anyway if it's an ipod 02.39.57 # AAc support is not perfect, integlation of iTunes playlist is through TagCache 02.40.20 Nick webguest48 is now known as Falco98 (n=18586afa@labb.contactor.se) 02.40.25 # rockbox is directory based, so it doesnt work with itunes DB i guess? 02.40.46 # i don't plan on using AAC or wma anyway 02.40.50 # does it support flac? 02.40.50 # RB works with iTunes directory structure with TagCache 02.40.56 # basically it lets you use the iPod more like a *real* mass-storage-device, but you may be forced (out of sheer annoyance) to ditch iTunes 02.41.10 # and yes, it supports FLAC 02.41.15 # i want to ditch itunes anywya 02.41.15 # plus sometimes mp3 192K playing, it hangs ! 02.41.17 # i'm on linux 02.41.19 # good :) 02.41.31 # + i think Apple is removing too much digital rights with itunes 02.41.37 # agreed 02.41.43 # I'm currently freeing the music i legally bought from itunes. 02.41.49 # haha 02.42.01 # i don't believe in paying $1/song for lossy stuff 02.42.08 # i'll download illegally, or buy the CD 02.42.10 # anapod > itunes :] 02.42.12 # that's stupid music illegally downloaded on the internet is better than the ones taken from itunes 02.42.12 # (often times, one and then the other) 02.42.13 # meh 02.42.14 # you would experience many odd things still with RB 02.42.27 # well, at least itunes songs are lossless 02.42.35 # oh? which ones 02.42.40 # well, i think it is? 02.42.47 # i figured iTunes was mp3 or lossy AAC 02.42.56 # i got mine in m4p 02.42.58 # though i could be wrong.. 02.43.06 # AAc is not very well supported in RB because developers do not use AAC at all 02.43.09 # how big are the song files on average? 02.43.27 # arghhhh 02.43.28 # if they're 50 - 60% as big as WAVs would be, they're lossless.. 02.43.31 # its 128kbps! 02.43.37 # if it's more like 10 - 15%, it's lossy 02.43.40 # what a crap have i paid for 02.43.41 # ew 02.43.42 # haha 02.43.53 # i'm thinking of signing up on magnatune.com 02.43.55 # if you have many AAc files, it is dangerous to use RB only 02.43.58 # but the only songs i bought were songs i couldnt find anywhere else 02.44.00 # (or making my own iTunes competitor) 02.44.18 Join powerrangersfan1 [0] (n=chatzill@ip70-179-116-87.dc.dc.cox.net) 02.44.19 # does anybody reads 2600 here? 02.44.19 # pjo: switching back to the iPod software is all too easy, though.. 02.44.29 # i am confused what folde are they talkingabout unzip rockbox.zip to the top-level (root) folder on your iPod. 02.44.35 # plus if you have DRMed AAc, you need to DRm them to be playable with RB 02.44.35 # specially the "The DRM Plan" article in the latest magazine 02.44.52 # powerrangersfan1: are you viewing your ipod as a removable hard drive? 02.44.56 # i mean unDRM 02.44.59 # :P 02.44.59 # yes on a mac 02.45.03 # Aghaster: you have a link? 02.45.14 # no, its not available online 02.45.21 # unless you download a scanned copy 02.45.21 Join Novus [0] (n=Novus@c-67-190-63-114.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 02.45.25 # which i don't encourage 02.45.26 # :P 02.45.27 # powerrangersfan1: basically if your iPod is X: you unzip all that stuff right to X: 02.45.29 # www.2600.com 02.45.45 # huh? i am confused 02.45.54 # once rockbox is installed how what dir is ur music in? 02.45.56 # in other words, straight to the drive, not to any folder on it 02.46.06 # hehe 02.46.22 # is rockbox written in C++? 02.46.25 # C 02.46.27 # oh so just drag folder to my ipod not in no other folder 02.46.27 # ok 02.46.32 # power: correct 02.46.52 # ok it copying all the files 02.47.10 # Falco: what is funny about Apple's DRM is that you actually can burn the songs to a CD then re-encode them to another format... 02.47.28 # Aghaster: yeah, i guess they don't count on peole thinking of that... 02.47.29 # how do u install wps on ipod nano? 02.47.39 # then again, cross-coding stuff like that is always bad for lossy reasons 02.48.04 # do you know how to undrm Apple songs ? 02.48.11 # no it did not work 02.48.25 # Falco: It's only a proof that DRM is just a plan to make more money on honest users. They know there will be people who will re-encode the songs and distribute them over p2p 02.48.25 # the ultimate downfall of DRM, of course, is the plain fact that anyone could re-record stuff via a line-in and make nearly-lossless copies that way, an reencode 02.48.35 # i did what you said and when it got to the blue screen it said error then said going to orignal firewire 02.48.46 # i spent along time doing all of the steps 02.48.47 # their "anti-piracy" measures are simply futile, and only remove rights on honest users 02.49.07 # power: did it say anything more specific? 02.49.07 # yeah, of course 02.49.15 # no 02.49.37 # all i did is copyed they rockbox unzipped folder to my ipod 02.49.44 # i downloaded a wps file and extracted it to my ipod drive 02.49.53 # now when i click on it in rockbox it doesnt load 02.49.58 # The point is... how can you encourage people to buy music legally over the internet if the songs downloaded illegally do not have the stupid restrictions legal songs have? 02.50.06 # ok well plug the ipod back into USB and open up the disk.. confirm that you have a file called "rockbox.ipod" there 02.50.30 # it says rockbox error -1 02.50.44 # ok i will but that file is inside the folder 02.50.44 # Aghaster: yeah.. and also that people can buy reasonably-priced CDs (sometimes) with lossless, permanent copies, artwork, etc 02.50.59 # yeah, real CDs are still the best 02.51.06 # you got real material, and no DRM 02.51.08 # power: if you have unzipped it correctly, that file should already be there 02.51.12 # nobody here has rockbox installed? 02.51.22 # Novus: i do.. on my h140.. why? 02.51.45 # im having trouble putting a wps on there 02.51.52 # ok i unzipped the download rockbox.zip and the zip came with a folder so i drag folder onto my ipod 02.51.54 # well i have it on there but when i click it on it doesnt work 02.52.10 # novus: so you can find it when you do "browse .wps files"? 02.52.16 # do i drag folder or just the file 02.52.20 # yes 02.52.42 # yes to what? 02.52.42 # power: in your ipod, you should have both a file "iriver.ipod", and a folder ".rockbox" 02.53.05 # it says brushed_metal 02.53.10 # what should i click 02.53.34 # well, it *should* work if you click it, i suppose.. what is it doing after you do so? 02.53.34 # i have a rockbox.ipod no .rockbox folder i think that might be a hidden folder 02.54.00 # power: it might be hidden.. maybe you should try unzipping it out of the .zip file again to make sure 02.54.08 # the screen goes blank into sleep mode 02.54.12 # once rockbox is installed, do you add/remove files like it's an external hdd? 02.54.13 # power: even if you overwrite it, it won't do any harm 02.54.21 # german_snail: yup 02.54.47 # it says i need to place the folder to the top level root folder of the ipod 02.54.53 # yes 02.55.06 # in the same level as the rockbox.ipod file is 02.55.20 # i am so confused 02.55.39 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 02.55.40 # power: you have to think of your folders like a tree 02.55.47 # top level: your ipod 02.55.53 # next level: any folders on your ipod 02.55.57 # also falco98, what dir is the current music that you had on ipod at ipod 02.55.58 # etc. 02.56.10 # *before installing rockbox 02.56.18 # powerrangersfan1, when you go to "My Computer", what drive letter is your ipod? 02.56.22 # novus: you mean what folder does iTunes keep music in? 02.56.29 # (german: i believe he's on a mac) 02.56.39 # oh 02.56.47 # yeah 02.56.49 # the zip file i downloaded from daily builds when i used unzip or whatever it zipped whatever (a folder saying rockbox) and inside the folder it has rockbox.ipod that is all 02.57.00 # haha 02.57.17 # so i drag the rockbox-ipodvideo-20060520 Folder "folder to my ipod" 02.57.19 # mac user ditching mac firmware 02.57.19 # and nothing 02.57.29 # i just used itunes to put music on the ipod 02.57.37 # i never had it one folder 02.58.19 # power: the rockbox-ipodvideo-... file is the .zip 02.58.51 # Falco98: I'm guessing the zip file has been uncompressed into a folder with the same name as the .zip 02.58.52 # yes and i drag that folder to my ipod from desktop 02.58.58 # it contains a file called "rockbox.ipod" and a folder called ".rockbox" 02.59.07 # both of those should be unzipped straight to your ipod disk 02.59.15 # linux: prolly 02.59.36 # no it only has rockbox.ipod unless it hidden 02.59.55 # It's so much easier at the command-line: "unzip rockbox.zip -d /mnt/ipod" .... 02.59.58 # you said you're on a mac,r ight? 03.00.06 # yes i found that .rockbox is hidden 03.00.15 # ok 03.00.15 # yes i am on a mac 03.00.19 # wtf what dir is rockbox on? 03.00.33 # what dir is ur music on 03.00.52 # so what do i do........... 03.00.55 # Novus: i'm not sure where iTunes sticks music, if that's what you're talking about 03.01.07 # power: have you been able to view the hidden file yet? 03.01.10 # backdrop, calender,contact, fonts, notes, photos, themes, wps, calenders 03.01.18 # that what i get when i start my ipod now 03.01.20 # yes 03.01.38 # argh, i need help, i extracted rockbox.ipod and .rockbox to my ipod's root dir, unplugged usb, rebooted ipod, but it's not running rockbox :/ 03.01.40 # power: you copy the .rockbox folder to your ipod 03.02.04 # overflow in rtfm buffer 03.02.14 # german: and you followed all the other installation steps for iPod before copying the files over? 03.02.25 # Mikachu: ROFL 03.02.36 # ok 03.02.39 # Novus: You shouldn't see the "backdrop, fonts, themes, wps" folders in the same place as calendar and notes - they should have stayed inside the .rockbox folder. 03.03.12 # Novus: But now you can copy music anywhere on your ipod's hard disk. For example, I just have a folder called "Music", and I put everything in there. 03.03.17 # thanks to all it worked 03.03.23 # stupid hidden folders 03.03.38 # hehe 03.03.59 # power: i'm glad it worked, i was running out of ideas :-) 03.04.07 # so the music i had prior did or didnt get deleted? 03.04.23 # ok i have no songs on my ipod but when i click the folder rockbox nothing comes up 03.04.26 # Novus: there is no reason it would have, unless you did something else to delete it 03.04.46 # power: don't click the rockbox folder, there's no music in there 03.04.49 # but where is on the ipod screen? 03.05.12 # so then were do i find my music? 03.05.16 # Novus: The screen you are looking at in Rockbox is simply the file browser. Press MENU to go to the menu... 03.05.34 # Falco98, which other steps? 03.05.38 # * Falco98 wishes someone experienced with RB on ipods was in here :-P 03.05.54 # All the experience is here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ 03.06.03 # german: on the ipod installation page, there are a few steps listed which you have to do before your iPod "knows" how to boot Rockbox 03.06.09 # (see link above) 03.06.30 # oh, i just followed the manual 03.06.38 # german_snail: Start reading here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodPort 03.06.47 # linux: is the iTunes music accessible via the rockbox filetree at all? 03.07.06 # ok so i see 4 folder "contacts"...and at bottom says rockbox were do i find my music and such 03.07.20 # also how about some better background 03.07.35 # Falco98: You need to change the "Show files" option to "All" and then you can see the obfuscated filenames that itunes creates. TagCache is more practical. 03.07.43 # so linux i downloaded a wps on and extracted it to my ipod drive 03.07.53 # thanks 03.08.00 # i click on the wps screen it goes blank and goes to sleep mode 03.08.07 # linux: i'm only wondering if the actual folders are even visible :-P 03.08.10 Quit powerrangersfan1 ("Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.3/2006042618]") 03.08.27 # Novus: you should select themes (nominally) by doing "browse themes" 03.08.34 # Falco98: It's all inside a top-level "iPodControl" folder which is hidden. 03.08.41 # ahh makes sense then 03.08.55 # i did... 03.09.00 # power: press the button to get into the menu (linux: reference?) and enable TagCache 03.09.13 # Falco98: Err, "Menu".... 03.09.33 # oh there's actually a "menu" button on ipod? 03.09.34 # ok 03.09.47 # what do u need for wps to work? 03.09.54 # Yes, but ironically, the Apple firmware doesn't use it to bring up a menu.... 03.10.01 Join Vladoman [0] (n=Vladoman@dsl-cus-098-041.de.clara.net) 03.10.12 # In fact, I've no idea why Apple call that button "menu"... 03.10.39 # it does go to the menu if you're in the wps 03.11.01 # Only by accident. It should be marked something like "back" 03.11.29 # But who am I to criticise Apple's UI design.... 03.11.41 # so it says i only have 173 mb left 03.11.49 # but i see no music on my ipod 03.12.00 # in any of the directories 03.13.00 # with rockbox installed 03.13.04 # Novus: if all your music is iTunes stuff, it's hidden in rockbox unless you enable tagcache 03.13.27 # Omgooses 03.13.28 # Ipod_Control/Music/ 03.13.44 # Novus: Have you read the FAQ? 03.13.48 # yes 03.13.54 # You can get in there if you view all files...but it's rather useless 03.14.23 # to path scrollmargins.diff, same command as xxx.patch or different ? 03.14.26 # so how do u enable tagcache? on ur ipod 03.14.45 # thats probably why the wps isnt working 03.14.47 # pjo: should be 03.14.55 # ok 03.14.56 # Novus: menu 03.15.03 # then.. hmm.. 03.15.16 # how many bits in an int on Ipod? 03.15.36 # Novus: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ#How_do_I_access_music_that_I_hav 03.15.58 # earHertz: 32 03.16.14 # using path command for diff file did not work 03.16.46 Quit Genre9mp3 ("Leaving") 03.17.17 # thx m8 but now im tryin to put the brushed metal theme on there but when i click it it goes black 03.17.17 # pjo: not sure, there's a lot of other variables involved... 03.17.23 # does anyone advis how to apply xxx.diff file to the RB source ? 03.17.32 # *blank 03.17.43 # Novus: you won't notice too much of a theme change 'til you actually get music playing such that u see a WPS 03.17.49 # how about using diff command ? 03.18.19 # pjo: Seen this page? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WorkingWithPatches 03.18.34 # sure this is my favorite page 03.18.51 # What's the problem with your patch? 03.19.10 # how do u turn off the ipod? 03.19.22 # nvm 03.19.23 # i want to apply scrollmargins.diff 03.19.33 # show it some pictures of old people 03.19.39 # and I want to know exactly how to do it 03.20.03 # patching xxxx.patch worked fine 03.20.12 # linuxstb, i extracted rockbox.ipod and .rockbox _before_ doing all those dos commands, what now? 03.20.47 # german: i think as long as you do the necessary steps on the install page, it should work 03.20.48 # pjo: The standard way is to type "patch -p0 < scrollmargins.diff" from the "rockbox" directory - i.e. in the directory containing apps, firmware etc. 03.21.10 # that is what I did 03.21.15 # k 03.21.20 # german_snail: So have you now done all the DOS commands? 03.21.29 # yeah 03.21.35 # And what does your ipod do? 03.21.44 # oh it's working now 03.21.47 # cool 03.21.55 # patch command asks "file to path" 03.22.22 # hehe 03.22.24 # OK. Try again with "-p1" instead of "-p0" 03.22.30 # ok 03.22.47 # okay... 79 instructions implemented so far... 03.22.52 # linux: BTW what does "-p1", etc, do? mess with relative path etc? 03.23.04 # Or stop guessing, and open up the patch file in a text editor and look at the filenames at the top of the patch. 03.23.08 # JdGordon: get my PM? 03.23.17 # ye 03.23.18 # ok 03.23.27 # only... 255-79 more to go. 03.23.35 # k, just wanted to know what you thought :-P 03.23.52 # ill leave it up to you... im done with that patch.. :D 03.23.57 # BTW you should post a reply on the thread in General Discussion, O:-) 03.24.03 # hehe 03.24.10 # well i believe it's working pretty close to 100% now 03.24.33 # that was the last bug i could discover, anyway 03.24.37 # Falco98: Yes. If the filename in the patch is "rockbox/apps/settings.c", then "-p0" means that patch will look for rockbox/apps/settings.c, "-p1" will mean that patch looks for apps/settings.c and "-p2" will mean that patch looks for settings.c in the current directory. 03.24.59 # linuxstb: gotcha.. i hadn't run across that quite yet 03.25.54 # with p1 it displays error, can't find file to path at input line 8, Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option 03.26.09 # how do i shut down ipod now? i can't keep my eyes open to read another word 03.26.18 # pjo: what folder do you have the diff in, and what files does it refer to? 03.26.38 # german_snail: hold "stop" i think 03.26.41 # it is in home directry of mine at CygWin 03.26.44 # Falco98: I like the idea for your patch BTW for the crossfade 03.26.56 # in the rockbox folder 03.27.11 # ta 03.27.15 Part german_snail 03.27.21 # there is diff and patch and patch worked 03.28.11 # maybe this diff file is not compatible with the latest daily build 03.28.33 # 466 lines done... 03.29.03 # 95 instructions implemented... 03.30.15 # scottder: thanks :) 03.30.44 # scottder: found any more bugs? and, do you have the latest version? 03.30.51 # all but the latest are slightly buggy 03.30.52 # Not that I really use Crossfade much. But still an excellent idea 03.30.54 # :) 03.30.54 # (hopefully :-P) 03.30.59 # yeah 03.31.08 # I'm teh decider! 03.31.09 # well right now i'm listening to random albums 03.31.16 # so i don't have crossfade on 03.31.29 # but when i switch back to random, it'll be right there for me 03.31.45 # and if i skip any tracks, it's *still* there for me :-P 03.31.53 # imagine that! O:-) 03.32.01 # earHertz: we'll just call ya W :) 03.32.17 # BEHOLD>...the power of chee...I mean Rockbox 03.32.17 # :) 03.32.18 # Call me "Q". For "quagmire" 03.32.40 # Giggity 03.32.41 # :) 03.34.26 # all: quickly, does rockbox support SHN? i suddenly forget, and have never bothered trying 03.35.04 # 111 cpu instructions implemented in 512 lines... 03.35.36 # sharpe: is this your c64 emulator? 03.35.50 # JdGordon: nope, space invaders ;) 03.35.58 # haha, even better :D 03.36.07 # how many more instructions r there? 03.36.13 # around 255 03.36.38 # i'm somewhat porting SIDE 03.37.07 # n/m, confirmed in the wiki 03.39.06 Join powerrangersfan1 [0] (n=chatzill@ip70-179-116-87.dc.dc.cox.net) 03.39.16 # WB power 03.39.28 # how do i install these http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpod5g 03.40.20 # does anyone know 03.40.26 # power: that'll be a bit tricky.. you should read the WPS FAQ first just so you know what we're talking about when we tell you stuff 03.40.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.40.56 # man, those are pretty 03.41.10 # yeah 03.41.18 # * Falco98 is jealous (sorta) of ipod users 03.41.39 Quit Vladoman (Connection timed out) 03.41.52 # Falco, having had an archos FM, I can tell you, the ipod is nicer. Lighter, less prone to problems 03.41.53 Join Vladoman [0] (n=Vladoman@dsl-cus-098-041.de.clara.net) 03.42.10 # plus, you can watch porno movies on it 03.42.15 # I mean, educational podcasts 03.42.19 # haha 03.42.27 # woo! half of the i8080 instrictions implemented 03.42.27 # oh so then i should just stick with the plan background 03.42.38 # * Falco98 abhors the popularity of the term "podcast" 03.42.59 # power: an easier thing to do, at least for a day or so, is to go into the menu and do "browse themes" 03.43.28 # (will he have themes if he only has today's build?) 03.43.29 # ok i will 03.43.31 # Falco98: yeah, the term sucks. But I've been listening to entre semester length courses form UBerkely 03.43.33 # nice 03.43.41 # hehe 03.43.51 # no, sertioysly. IB31, aninal behavior 03.43.57 # animal 03.44.13 # oh, do i need to keep downloading daily builds 03.44.26 # is Tag Cache easy thing to do 03.45.09 # power: not EVERY day, but it is occasionally good to do 03.45.21 Quit powerrangersfan1 ("Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.3/2006042618]") 03.45.21 # and, tag cache should be easy once you've updated it once 03.45.28 # powerrangersfan1: the code is a bit diffult. useing it is easy 03.53.24 Quit Daishi ("Client exiting...") 03.54.44 # all: are daily builds being shipped with the built-in extra WPS' these days? 03.55.02 # I wish C had default arguments 03.55.18 # it does 03.55.20 Join Short1 [0] (n=howejal@71.244.167.198) 03.55.32 # it does? 03.55.33 # well, maybe not 03.55.50 # but you could cheat and do it 03.56.12 # how would you do that 03.56.15 # ? 03.56.27 # i would have to think about that for a while 03.57.37 # 143 instructions implemented. 03.57.51 # 644 lines of code 03.59.30 Quit Vladoman (Success) 04.00.05 # sharpe, what ARE you doing? 04.00.23 Join Vladoman [0] (n=Vladoman@dsl-cus-098-041.de.clara.net) 04.00.47 # making a switch statement with almost 250 entries to emulate the i8080, for space invaders? 04.01.28 # sure you don't want an array? 04.01.38 # why would i? 04.01.45 # nevermind ;) 04.01.50 # :) 04.02.02 # yay emulation of processors.. 04.02.36 Quit Novus ("—I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— 2.0 Build 2520") 04.04.09 # so long 04.04.13 Quit pjo (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- State of the art IRC") 04.04.37 Part Short1 04.05.31 # ... and thanks for all the fish 04.12.04 # fish eh? 04.14.24 # 175 instructions... 756 lines... 04.15.55 # grrgle... 04.19.16 Quit TeaSea ("Leaving") 04.19.50 # grrgle? I think sharpe is choking! 04.19.52 # ;) 04.20.11 # heh... 04.20.12 # hehe 04.20.20 # scott: have you checked out my other patch? 04.20.32 # the "insert random folders" patch? 04.20.38 # my life is actually good enough for once :) 04.21.14 # not that it wasn't bad 04.21.48 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-71-180.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) 04.23.59 # woo! 191 done 04.24.37 # yay go team 04.26.43 # i'm a team! yay1 04.29.47 # Falco98: can't say that I have... 04.29.54 # I don't use any patches myself.... 04.30.04 # just the latest and greatest from CVS :) 04.30.17 # i don't really use patches either... 04.35.15 # ah.. then you haven't used my "random & track skip" patch yet? 04.35.24 # nope... 04.35.26 # sorry... 04.35.43 # (i only use patches because these are features i wanted badly to write / instigate myself :-P) 04.36.02 # i probably have more modified than original lines in my tree :) 04.36.04 # * Falco98 listens intently to his h140 playing back albums in apparently-random order, never knowing what's next (!!) 04.36.09 # hehe 04.36.14 # heheh 04.36.51 # Mikachu: how do you speed up the process of re-doing various patches, etc, when you update to a new build? 04.36.52 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.36.52 # Falco98: I think someone mentioned yesterday that you should change the line " {2, S_O(crossfade), 0,...." in settings.c . The first number (2) determines the number of bits needed to store the setting, and for 5 settings you need 3 bits instead of two. 04.37.02 # Falco98: ? cvs update 04.37.09 # ahh 04.37.14 # Paul: thanks, i'll look at that... 04.37.58 # i'm listening to... reggie and the full effect... on my ipod... with rockbox! 04.38.09 # PaulJam: how severe of an effect would this have, just out of curiosity? 04.38.35 # the setting would not be saved 04.38.38 # since the patch seems to work with that number unchanged.. 04.38.44 # Falco98: if you set it to always the setting is not stored on reboot 04.39.16 # ahh, i haven't actually tried "always" yet :-P 04.39.34 # i'll update.. i guess i only need to update the .patch file itself, since it's a 1-byte change in this case... 04.39.36 # 207 instructions done... 04.39.51 # Falco98: are you downloading daily .tar.bz2 files? 04.39.57 # cause that's just silly :) 04.40.06 # when i do use a new daily, that's how i tend to do it 04.40.13 Quit Aghaster (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.40.32 # but i'm keeping my DEV folder separate from the builds i actually use, cuz i'm using that for development of only one patch 04.40.37 Join gtkspert_ [0] (n=gtkspert@124-168-66-103.dyn.iinet.net.au) 04.40.45 # that's one way to do it 04.41.01 # (and i assume that if i'm coding 2 separate patches in the same path, when i do a diff, it'll catch everything instead of just the desired patch, right?) 04.41.13 # yeah 04.42.19 # which kinda boggles me as to how people do multiple patches at once.. unless they have multiple source folders set up 04.42.29 # (which i do, but generally just 2ish) 04.43.46 # well, you can edit out parts of the patch after you generate it 04.44.34 # true 04.44.49 # it's especially easy if all your changes are in separate files 04.44.56 # though if you happen to be working in the same file with multiple patches you're pretty much screwed then :-P 04.49.45 # 223 instructions! 04.53.15 Join ScootScat [0] (n=sjohnson@71-80-131-108.dhcp.hspr.ca.charter.com) 04.53.43 # PaulJam: do you remember who/when was mentioning it yesterday? 04.54.19 Quit Vladoman (Connection timed out) 04.54.39 Quit gtkspert (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.55.54 # Falco98: i'm not sure, i think amiconn or linuxstb. 04.55.54 Quit ScootScat (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.56.08 # okay, my thousandth line is, " { " 04.58.19 Join Aghaster [0] (n=Aghaster@modemcable240.73-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) 04.58.34 # He it's not the number of lines, it the motion of the code... 04.58.37 # or something 04.58.50 # ? 04.59.48 # hehe 05.00.15 # * Falco98 wishes linux would look at his patch and consider CVSing it :-P 05.01.31 Join Rob2222_ [0] (n=Miranda@ACB33EFD.ipt.aol.com) 05.02.16 # sharpe, i got factions today :) 05.02.32 # Falco, i'm almost finished freeing my music :) 05.03.05 # you wrote a patch? 05.03.19 # 239 instructions implemented 05.03.37 # 1056 lines of code :'( 05.04.23 # sharpe: what's your char's name? 05.04.31 # wha? 05.04.39 # sharpe, i got factions today :) 05.04.42 # oh, cool 05.04.43 # Aghaster: congratulations :-P 05.04.52 # Aghaster: if you were asking me if i wrote one, the answer is yes 05.04.53 # sharpe, you blind bastard.. :) 05.04.57 # :) 05.04.59 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5344 05.05.00 # what does your patch do? 05.05.01 # i can't remember the name... 05.05.05 # haha. 05.05.07 # Shar Pie? 05.05.14 # no, but that is a good one. 05.05.22 # in fact it is. 05.05.33 # it's also not trademarked. 05.05.36 # cool. 05.05.40 # haha. 05.05.45 # it's pretty simple.. instead of forcing a user to select "crossfade when in shuffle mode" OR "crossfade upon track skip", it allows the user to select "both" without having to set crossfade to "always" 05.05.52 # yeah, i just read 05.06.03 # midkay: i think one is "Haste Mimikry" 05.06.10 # Falco, is Rockbox translated in Esperanto? 05.06.16 # sharpe, alright. 05.06.17 # heh, no idea :-P 05.06.24 # not quite sure about the other though. 05.06.28 # you could check to see whether the builds ship with an "esperanto.lang" file 05.06.30 # okay, then you might have an esperanto translation coming lol 05.06.40 # sharpe, well, the friends list only requires one name on the account to be added.. 05.06.47 # does rockbox uses unicode? 05.06.55 # any other characters logged on under that account will show up next to the friendslist name in parenthases. 05.07.04 # e.g. Haste Mimikry (Shar Pie). 05.07.18 # i'll smack you with the spelling book! parentheses! 05.07.25 # WTF. 05.07.28 # okay. wait. 05.07.41 # first, wtf at me using parentheses more than once in a day. 05.07.50 # second, wtf at ????. 05.07.53 # third, wtf. i misspelled it again. 05.07.54 # :( 05.08.01 # lol... 05.08.20 # Aghaster: you happen to have a link to "The DRM plan" article? 05.08.24 # or is it only in print? 05.08.27 # i should have a script that corrects you everytime you use 'parenthases' 05.08.29 # its only print 05.08.34 # sharpe, haha. 05.08.35 # but we should try finding it on the internet 05.08.38 # maybe someone scanned it 05.09.43 # scary. i also thought one of these instructions was named 'dj' 05.09.49 # almost. 05.09.59 # not also... 05.10.07 # how'd i get also out of almost? 05.10.32 # haha, 05.12.48 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-51-28.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) 05.14.23 # Falco98: i found out a pdf on emule, but it may take long to download. its emule 05.14.51 # ok 05.15.19 Join scremo [0] (n=ceacea4e@labb.contactor.se) 05.17.07 # hello? 05.17.27 # goodnight 05.17.43 # we're sorry, nobody is IRCing at the momnet, leas try your converstion later. Goodbye 05.17.57 # earHertz, it'd be even more convincing sans typos.. 05.17.58 # :) 05.18.01 # it's funny pronouncing typos 05.18.07 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.18.12 # tyeah, it's like I have an accent 05.18.15 Join JBGood [0] (n=Johnq@66.216.160.160.dynamic.dejazzd.com) 05.18.15 # haha. 05.18.26 # midkay, have i told you how i'm implementing the cpu for the space invaders emulator? 05.18.43 Quit flynux (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.18.43 NSplit clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 05.18.43 Quit Aghaster (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.18.43 Quit JdGordon (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.18.43 Quit Sinbios (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.18.43 Quit _Veseliq_ (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.18.43 Quit jbauman (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.18.43 Quit Poka64 (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.18.43 Quit `wutwut (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.18.43 Quit lostlogic (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.18.43 Quit Galois (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.18.43 Quit PiXEL8 (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.19.16 # sharpe, you're working on a space invaders emulator? 05.19.20 # yep. 05.19.30 # pretty, uh, pretty, uh, uh, pretty, um, pretty, uh, cool. 05.19.42 NHeal clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 05.19.42 NJoin Aghaster [0] (n=Aghaster@modemcable240.73-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) 05.19.42 NJoin JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 05.19.42 NJoin Sinbios [0] (n=Sinbios@Kingston-HSE-ppp3561635.sympatico.ca) 05.19.42 NJoin _Veseliq_ [0] (n=veseliq@195.85.215.210) 05.19.42 NJoin jbauman [0] (n=Johnq@66.216.160.160.dynamic.dejazzd.com) 05.19.42 NJoin Poka64 [0] (i=peter@hd5e241c0.gavlegardarna.gavle.to) 05.19.42 NJoin `wutwut [0] (i=mixup@ip70-162-120-243.ph.ph.cox.net) 05.19.42 NJoin lostlogic [0] (n=lostlogi@temporal.lostlogicx.com) 05.19.42 NJoin Galois [0] (i=djao@efnet-math.org) 05.19.42 NJoin flynux [0] (n=prout@2a01:38:0:0:0:0:0:1) 05.19.42 NJoin PiXEL8 [0] (n=PiXEL8@c-24-5-212-221.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 05.19.44 Quit Sinbios (Success) 05.19.52 # well, i don't have to worry about keyboard input with this... :) 05.20.01 # c64 emu?1! 05.20.13 # it's on hold at the moment... 05.20.17 # i mean. 05.20.18 # well. 05.20.19 Join mixup [0] (i=mixup@ip70-162-120-243.ph.ph.cox.net) 05.20.25 # how are you implementing the cpu for the space invaders emulator. 05.21.00 # for interpreting the opcodes, one switch statement with ~245 cases... 05.21.22 Nick gtkspert_ is now known as gtkspert (n=gtkspert@124-168-66-103.dyn.iinet.net.au) 05.21.50 # which i just finished... 05.22.03 # wow. 05.22.27 Quit scremo ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 05.22.31 # 1135 lines... 05.24.24 # :E 05.24.36 Join scremo [0] (n=ceacea4e@labb.contactor.se) 05.25.02 # i would so cry right now if i accidentally deleted it. 05.26.34 # i need help 05.26.41 # haha. 05.26.57 # we can help. 05.27.20 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.28.17 # OK, help me with an interface issue. The ipod has a scroll wheel. How should we report scroll information. One way is to report the actual scroll wheel delta, and let the client code use that "raw" number. The other way is to "chunk" the value into, say, 8 virtual keys: slow scroll fwd, medium fwd, fast_fwsd, etra fast fwd, and corresponding for backward. Chunking makes for a better... 05.28.18 # ...interface -- client code can handle each one as a "key", but it loses teh granulairy of reporting teh actual value. Your thoughts, gentlemen? 05.29.02 # amiconn: u around? 05.29.55 # earHertz: arr! burn the code! arr! 05.30.09 # you're a pirate? 05.30.24 # arr, for the next few minutes, aye. 05.30.34 # bus pirates!! 05.31.40 Quit scremo ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 05.32.42 # Arr... why be i8080.h needed to build, when we've got no reference to it, nor a file named that... Arr... 05.32.50 # http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2719394?pg=latest&htv=12 05.34.20 # PaulJam: I found the logs where amiconn found the bug in my patfh 05.34.22 # patch* 05.34.33 # * Falco98 wonders why noone mentioned it on the flyspray page :-P 05.35.22 Join RoC_MM [0] (i=dragon@dsl-29-8.cofs.net) 05.36.25 # JdGordon: still around? 05.36.53 Quit `wutwut (Connection timed out) 05.40.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.41.21 # does anyone happen to know of (or know how to write real quick) a function in RB to test whether the "next song" is in the same DIR as the "current song" 05.41.22 # ? 05.41.30 Quit jbauman (Connection timed out) 05.51.09 Join dj-fu [0] (n=deejay@202.89.156.165) 05.53.15 Quit gunpowda (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Go on, try it!") 06.07.32 # woo! it compiles 06.07.33 # ! 06.07.43 # quick question: in what directory should i put my music on my ipod for rockbox? 06.07.55 # Aghaster: any directory you feel like... 06.08.12 # many of us have music simply in "\Music" 06.08.14 # ok, i just dont see where i can browse my folders 06.08.40 # when you first power-on in RB it should come up with a view of the top directory, including any folders you have there 06.08.47 # (if you don't have any folders, you won't have much there) 06.08.52 # Can someone see if this pulls up a password box? http://68.142.29.8:6000 06.09.12 # RoC_MM: nope, just "restricted" 06.09.20 # o 06.09.24 # firefox won't pull that up 06.09.28 # RoC_MM: ie does 06.09.31 # "security restrctions" 06.09.39 # it gives a password box? 06.09.41 # aye 06.09.43 # cool 06.09.45 # thanks :-) 06.09.49 # welcome 06.09.58 # hum... i loaded a small "void" game, you know that game where you destroy asteroids with a small spaceship 06.10.01 # but i dont know how to get out 06.10.13 # try select+menu 06.10.31 # won't that reboot my ipod? 06.10.39 # not if you just press them, and not hold them 06.10.45 # most plugins use that to exit 06.11.01 # doing that + holding menu after worked. 06.11.14 Quit chesty ("leaving") 06.11.42 # something's wrong... 06.11.56 # spinv.rock is 40 bytes... 06.12.58 # ah, probably because i haven't actually used the function with the switches. 06.13.00 # thanks sharpe 06.13.05 # you're welcome 06.17.06 # woo, space invaders takes up 16kb for ram/rom in memory. 06.18.19 Join NibbIer [0] (n=sven@e181114206.adsl.alicedsl.de) 06.18.35 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.19.31 Quit Aghaster (Remote closed the connection) 06.21.21 Quit PaulJam (".") 06.21.39 # i don't think i'll have to write any code to rotate the screen, as it's already rotated in memory... 06.25.05 # sharpe, let's Factions! 06.25.23 # you mean... go downstairs? 06.25.32 # i ser-pose! 06.25.43 # it's like, midnight for me :) 06.25.51 # what a bastard. 06.25.52 # :) 06.25.56 # ;) 06.26.17 # i know i'll probably get on tomorrow though... 06.26.32 # good2hear. 06.26.37 # werd. 06.27.00 # i'm just going to finish these few parts of the emulator, see if i can get it working, and go to bed. 06.27.11 # i, uh, you, uh, bippity boppity gnome. 06.27.22 # hell? 06.28.27 # hmm 06.28.35 # how does spinv sound for a name? 06.31.00 Quit Falco98 ("CGI:IRC") 06.31.57 # well, uh, you know, uh, bippity boppity, uh, space invaders, uh, hell no, uh, gnome power. 06.32.04 # ah. 06.32.10 # righto. 06.35.39 Join Aghaster [0] (n=Aghaster@modemcable240.73-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) 06.36.06 # bippity boppity gnome. 06.36.06 # There is no Esperanto translation available. As soon as i got it ready on my ipod, i'll start working at it 06.36.18 # and it seems we can translate it orally too? 06.36.26 # that might be quite kewl to do :P 06.36.57 # haha. he said oral. 06.37.09 # Aghaster, um, hm, i'm not sure, honestly. :) 06.37.15 # uh 06.37.23 # isn't there voice translation? 06.37.27 # for blind people 06.37.57 # I know you guys wanna hear my voice speaking Esperanto XD 06.38.01 # haha. 06.38.07 # :P 06.38.18 # lol 06.40.03 # hey, the sound just keeps skipping :/ 06.42.11 # make sure peak meters aren't visible and EQ is off.. 06.42.16 # got to run, bbi a bit.. 06.42.18 Quit midkay ("Leaving") 06.46.42 Quit gtkspert (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.47.58 Join gtkspert [0] (n=gtkspert@124-168-66-103.dyn.iinet.net.au) 06.49.03 # what can cause skippy sound on ipod? 06.49.11 # it seems its only some songs that do skip. 06.58.53 # isn't PC &= 0xFFFF redundant? where PC is a short... 06.59.09 Quit flynux (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.59.09 NSplit clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 06.59.09 Quit mixup (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.59.09 Quit lostlogic (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.59.09 Quit _Veseliq_ (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.59.09 Quit Galois (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.59.09 Quit Poka64 (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.59.09 Quit PiXEL8 (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.59.09 Quit JdGordon (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.00.27 NHeal clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 07.00.27 NJoin lostlogic [0] (n=lostlogi@temporal.lostlogicx.com) 07.02.00 Quit gtkspert (Remote closed the connection) 07.02.08 # how do i get back to my ipod's root in rockbox? 07.02.55 # keep pressing back (left) 07.04.26 # this gets me to the music i'm currently listenning 07.05.00 # press select, and try it, if you're in the wps 07.05.37 # * EbErT wishes there was a good way to check for corrupted id3 tags 07.05.49 # keeps hanging up on forced id3 cache on ipod 07.06.15 # driving me insane! if that part worked, i'd be real satisfied with the ipod builds so far 07.06.50 # it skips >:[ 07.07.01 # argh! 07.07.03 # you put on equilizer? 07.07.23 # are you running id3 cache in background? 07.07.50 # equalizer is off 07.07.53 # and it skips 07.07.57 Quit RoC_MM ("Leaving") 07.08.36 # lotsa reasons probably. have u gotten id3 tags to work? 07.08.46 # id3 tags show 07.08.47 # yes 07.08.53 # how many songs in collection? 07.09.02 # i only imported a hundred 07.09.35 # i have a corrupted one somewhere, made my cpu go crazy on itunes too 07.09.54 # a corrupted id3 tag? 07.10.43 # or song 07.10.52 # out of 5600 songs 07.10.59 # do software exist to detect song corruption? 07.11.17 NJoin Poka64 [0] (i=peter@hd5e241c0.gavlegardarna.gavle.to) 07.12.02 Quit dj-fu ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 07.13.02 # what is the song file format the best supported by rockbox? 07.13.04 Join JdGordon [0] (i=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 07.13.05 *** Server message 505: 'logbot- :Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. 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07.30.29 # i have to say, i love the scroll wheel, the long battery life, and the support for ogg and flac 07.30.44 # and the gapless and responsivenes in general 07.31.52 # i could only love this thing more if rockbox ran on it :/ 07.31.53 # heh 07.32.26 # and at this point i'm almost certainly going to get another to replace it 07.32.42 # unless somebody knows of something new that can actually win me over heh 07.33.53 Quit rotator ("zzzzzzzzz") 07.34.54 # part of the thing is it sucks to go spending $150 on something thats not even new 07.35.07 # that's hd mp3 players for u 07.35.20 # money is worth much less to people nowadays 07.35.36 # blar... 07.35.37 # g'night. 07.35.38 # i'd say just get something that sounds really good and holds lots 07.35.52 # but that's what's important to me 07.35.56 # but my screen ended up broken too, and i broke my hold switch while dissecting it 07.36.19 # does shuffle settings have to be saved, or does it save it itself 07.36.20 # not to mention the new hd's i've found that aren't more than the whole unit are of questionable compatibility as they aren't specific on model number or height or interface 07.36.50 # don'[t do that. since screen's gone, just get a different one 07.37.00 # so overall i'd be more inclined to get the whole new unit and then have a spare battery and mostly-intact mainboard 07.37.05 # well i can get a new screen for like $20 07.37.59 # there's a seller on ebay who's got each individual part of the karma for prices around that and many of each in stock 07.38.19 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 07.40.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.44.23 Join JtDL [0] (n=Prot@201.18.25.250) 07.48.15 # does shuffle settings have to be saved, or does it save it itself 07.48.22 # seems silly if it has to be 07.50.43 # shuffle settings? 07.51.04 # shuffle on/off 07.51.11 # of course it saves itself.. 07.51.22 # all settings save themselves. 07.51.25 # when i turn it back on, its always on 07.51.42 # how do you turn it off, and what is 'it'? 07.51.48 # oh, i was writing the file. guess i misunderstood what that was for 07.51.49 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 07.52.04 # when i turn ipod on, shuffle is on. sry 07.52.16 # how do you turn it off? 07.52.22 # hold play 07.52.39 # lemme test it again. 07.52.43 # not sure what's up then, i don't have trouble with it. 07.53.13 # but my BIG problem is not having id3 tags cacheing 07.53.23 Join [TCK] [0] (i=TCK@81-179-106-252.dsl.pipex.com) 07.53.25 # i force it, and it hangs up 3 mins in 07.53.36 # i've got a corrupted id3 tag or song 07.53.38 # tags caching? 07.53.47 # what model? 07.54.00 # ipod photo 60gb 07.55.45 # pretty weird. 07.55.56 # midkay: 07.56.06 # midkay: my karma needs replacement 07.56.23 # midkay: before i get a used karma in its place 07.56.34 # midkay: any recomendations of something new to get instead? 07.56.43 # ze, how about an iPod 5G? :) 07.56.43 # midkay: something that i'd actually like at least as well as my karma? 07.56.52 # i haven't used karmas too extensively.. 07.56.54 # midkay: i'm serious :p 07.57.09 # but the ipods+rockbox have as-good or better sound quality, surely, and definitely more configurable and stuff. 07.57.12 # wait, who makes karma 07.57.15 # 5-band parametric eq, just like the karma.. 07.57.18 # EbErT, Rio. 07.57.34 # zs... if color screen isn't a big deal i REALLY like my h140 07.57.38 # ze, crossfeed.. crossfade, but even more extensive, if you like that kind of thing.. we now have TagCache for browsing like the karma.. 07.57.46 # i've got a karma, x5l, and an h140 07.57.52 # i'd love something with rockbox 07.57.53 # some kind of rockboxed player. :) 07.58.02 # you can get a one for like $200 on ebay 07.58.03 # ze, you might like the H100s, yeah.. 07.58.06 # but i'm pretty hooked on the scrollwheel, ogg, flac 07.58.10 # similar priced, but rockbox-capabile.. 07.58.11 # that's where i got mine 07.58.21 # rockbox = ogg, flac, wavpack, everything.. 07.58.22 # my karma wheel brok :( 07.58.22 # any suggestions for type of app to find corruped file on ipod? 07.58.30 # corrupted file? 07.58.36 # broke 07.58.51 # yeah 07.58.52 # goffa: sucks 07.59.02 # ze, well, yeah, anyways, the h100 series is probably quite similar to the karma.. 07.59.16 # it ran my itunes cpu usage way up. took me tons of time to figure that out 07.59.17 # yeah... in a way.. prompted me to get my x5 and h140 07.59.20 # really happy with those 07.59.29 # goffa: my karma came with a dead line... other than that everything's been fine untill it got broken by mishaps 07.59.30 # i don't miss the wheel so much now 07.59.59 # i really appreciate the wheel for jumping quickly in seeks and file lists 08.00.08 # yeah 08.00.15 # scrolling is better on rockbox imo 08.00.15 # ze, a 30gb ipod could be found for probably $275, and it has the touch wheel.. we'll have accelleration for that soon, surely.. 08.00.21 # you might miss it for the seek 08.01.01 # ze, the ipod's stock firmware is a great example for the touch wheel, trying to pick a song out of a list of like 600 songs for me is .. incredibly quick. :) 08.01.01 # i never seek so that wasn't an issue 08.01.03 Quit Vladoman (Connection timed out) 08.01.25 # midkay: if this wheel has acceleration, its pretty seemless... it feels very 1:1 08.01.33 # i was messing around with it a couple days ago, only took me like 5-6 seconds to seek out a song in the middle-ish of a 600-song or so list.. 08.01.34 # i move quick, it moves as quick 08.01.35 # heh 08.02.09 # ze, well, i couldn't love my 5G more. :) 08.02.33 # midkay: ipod's not desirable as far as price and aesthetic go heh 08.02.40 # yeah 08.03.06 # you can do better price/look/quality wise than the ipod 08.03.08 # ze, hm, maybe look into an H100 or H300 then.. 08.03.17 Join gtkspert [0] (n=gtkspert@124-168-66-103.dyn.iinet.net.au) 08.03.24 # goffa, what do you mean, quality wise? 08.03.36 # seems like sound quality is lower on ipod 08.03.50 # oh, you forgot to mention you had one. 08.03.54 # goffa: i've heard that a lot too 08.04.00 # maybe it was the crap files that were on there 08.04.03 # i don't own one 08.04.03 # ze, rockboxwise or apple-firmware-wise? 08.04.11 # apple firmware 08.04.16 # can't comment on rockbox on the ipod 08.04.24 # i thought the apple firmware sounded pretty good, but rockbox completely destroys it.. 08.04.46 # so that's a consideration too ze 08.05.04 # i've no idea, i've just seen lots of places that the karma had better sound quality than ipod, including notes of surprise about such considering how similar internals they have 08.05.09 # ze, yeah, well, again, i have no karma experience as far as quality, and i've barely toyed with the UI.. 08.05.24 # ze, well, those are comparing apple's firmware, keep that in mind. :) 08.05.37 # yeah.. i was happy with karma's sound 08.05.37 # did apple just choose crappy decoding engines? 08.05.38 # heh 08.05.43 # best sound has to be the x5 though 08.05.51 Join JBGood25 [0] (n=Johnq@66.216.165.134.dynamic.dejazzd.com) 08.05.51 # ze, yeah, they licensed some crap from thomson or something. :) 08.05.54 # among the stuff i've heard 08.06.03 # goffa: who makes the x5? 08.06.13 # and the h[13]00 are what, iriver? 08.06.14 # very very noticeable difference between rockbox and apple firmware.. maybe it's the equalizer.. 08.06.19 # yeah.. 08.06.22 # cowon makes the x5. 08.06.23 # ze: cowon 08.06.25 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.06.29 # cowonamerica.com 08.06.41 # or iaudio.com 08.07.07 # but you get more storage/battery life with the h140 08.07.11 # i've heard their firmware is pretty slow but sounds quite good.. they seem like they know what they're doing, also, flac and ogg support, iirc.. 08.07.21 # yeah... 08.07.28 # their firmware is really slow 08.07.31 # soundcard on shuffle produces better sound than all the other ipods, if that tells ya anything 08.07.36 # but you can't knock the sound 08.07.58 # rockbox speeds it considerably 08.09.21 # ze, anyways, with the number of supported rockbox players, i couldn't forgive you for not getting one.. :) 08.09.27 # maybe the forced tag caching could come with error messages or what file it had trouble with later on 08.09.45 # midkay: i can get a used karma for ~$150 08.09.54 # if i can get id3 tags to work, i'll be completely satisfied w/ rockbox so far 08.11.11 # and i can resurect this one with a new HD and replacement screen for probably around $80 08.13.41 Join Vladoman [0] (n=Vladoman@dsl-cus-098-041.de.clara.net) 08.15.39 # if it wasn't for musepack i wouldn't have discovered/tried rockbox 08.15.46 # otherwise i probably would have fixed my karma 08.16.19 # karma does have pretty good firmware... i like rockbox better though 08.17.23 # i'm gunna kill that one song that's probably giving me all this grief 08.17.40 # ze, a used h120 would be about that... sure.. 08.18.38 # i'd spend the extra 50 and get the 140 though.. unless 20 is big enough 08.19.48 # yeah, whatever he does, he knows that he's going to get a rockbox player or be killed by me. :) 08.20.16 # lol.. i can see it now "Midkay sends hitman from detroit" 08.20.23 # heh 08.20.25 # haha. 08.20.30 # detroit~!!?!/ 08.20.35 # well it could work out to get another player entirely 08.20.44 # and then i can resurect this one some time in the future 08.20.58 # 1st rough town that came into my head 08.21.00 # although if i plan to do that, i'd probably be better off getting the new screen soonish 08.21.12 # but the HD's oughtta be around 08.21.49 # but then if i don't like the new one i've already spent what i had to go towards the HD 08.21.53 # heh 08.22.26 Join wehn [0] (n=wehn@210.185.94.94) 08.22.41 # well... a 40gb hd is close to the price of a 140 :) and 20 is close to the price of a 120 08.22.48 # haha. 08.22.53 # heh 08.23.05 # i've found the hitachi 20G's for about $50 or $60 08.23.17 # cool 08.23.24 # the only problem is they don't specify the interface or explicitly say that they're 7mm 08.23.34 # yeah 08.23.42 # and don't have the complete proper model number that indicates those parameters 08.23.53 # yeah.. that makes it tough 08.25.45 Quit JBGood (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.26.23 # hey. i need people to vote here. http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=4320.0 08.26.25 # come on. 08.27.19 # that loks nice midkay 08.27.25 # really nice 08.27.28 # vote vote vote pls. :) 08.27.33 # thanks. 08.27.57 # hm, cool.. 08.27.57 # voted 08.28.00 # thanks :) 08.29.19 # any suggestions, btw? didn't get any, but i would like to hear some if there were any.. 08.29.36 # i don't have any 08.29.53 # k, thx though.. be back in a lil' bit. 08.30.21 # pre 3.0? what are we on now 08.30.24 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@124.60.10.75) 08.30.27 # and is this a big step? 08.30.36 # 3 is next release 08.30.36 # hello 08.31.08 # they are just killing bugs now 08.31.16 # if you use cvs you probably won't notice much 08.32.39 # midkay: i gotta say, they look less dimensional and more pixelly 08.32.40 # kk 08.32.57 # i kinda like that look, good work 08.38.24 Join Sinbios [0] (n=Sinbios@Kingston-HSE-ppp3561635.sympatico.ca) 08.43.37 Nick JtDL is now known as modded_unmod (n=Prot@201.18.25.250) 08.43.57 # ze, what look less dimensional? 08.44.04 # oh. 08.44.06 # my bitmaps? 08.44.08 # don't have much in the sense of reference, but just from the dimension ratio's, the hxx0's look big 08.44.12 # midkay: yeah 08.44.48 # ze, true, it was a really quick photoshop resize.. if i do commit them, i'll probably remake them for each LCD.. 08.45.06 # but it's the general idea.. and imo they look considerably better on-target. 08.45.11 # both of them. 08.51.00 # hmm so the h1x0's are taller, narrower, and slimmer 08.51.06 # like everything else 08.51.12 # i kinda like the squatness of the karma too :/ 08.52.34 Quit EbErT () 08.52.55 Nick JdGordon_ is now known as JdGordon (i=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 08.53.38 Quit Vladoman (Connection timed out) 08.55.23 Nick modded_unmod is now known as Prot (n=Prot@201.18.25.250) 08.56.12 Join webguest61 [0] (n=3e7682eb@labb.contactor.se) 08.56.42 Quit webguest61 (Client Quit) 08.57.06 # and i got 2 asses due next week 08.57.11 # woops.. wrong window 08.57.12 # hey all 08.57.49 Quit Jungti1234 () 08.58.15 # zup jdjd. 08.58.24 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@124.60.10.75) 08.58.44 # dwqkjfrkl 08.58.52 # um. hi. 08.58.54 # ze... if size is an issue x5 may be woth looking at 08.58.58 # worth 08.58.58 # hi...:( 08.59.11 # although you don't gain much 09.00.16 # Internet status very ot good 09.00.19 # not 09.00.54 # I'm seeming to make use of modem. 09.02.30 Quit Jungti1234 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.16.24 Join mixup [0] (i=mixup@ip70-162-10-125.ph.ph.cox.net) 09.19.12 Join RedBreva [0] (n=chatzill@host86-133-122-148.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) 09.20.23 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 09.21.40 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-141-143.pools.arcor-ip.net) 09.26.34 Join Ribs [0] (n=ribs@riblet.plus.com) 09.30.14 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 09.31.04 Quit Prot (Remote closed the connection) 09.37.28 Join JBGood [0] (n=Johnq@66.216.165.230.dynamic.dejazzd.com) 09.38.09 Quit JBGood25 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 09.40.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.41.21 Part mixup 09.48.23 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.49.48 Join Acksaw [0] (n=Acksaw@spc1-stok5-0-0-cust770.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) 10.01.04 Quit Sinbios ("If the definition of a klutz is someone who doesn't have eyes on their ass, then yes, I suppose I am a klutz.") 10.16.29 Join Spacksaw [0] (n=Acksaw@spc1-stok5-0-0-cust770.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) 10.16.29 Quit Acksaw (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.29.25 Join Redbreva_ [0] (n=redbreva@host86-133-122-148.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) 10.29.42 # anyone figured a good way to use itunes + rockbox + podcasts? 10.34.53 Quit Redbreva_ (Remote closed the connection) 10.36.45 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-105-230.pools.arcor-ip.net) 10.36.47 # what format are podcasts? 10.37.16 # tagcache is a fine way to do rockbox + itunes, but podcast support doesn't exist yet.. 10.42.26 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 10.49.58 Join Redbreva_ [0] (n=redbreva@host86-133-122-148.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) 10.53.00 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-75-200.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr) 10.53.35 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 10.58.38 Quit Ribs ("Leaving") 11.01.53 # but podcasts are just MP3s. The 'support' is on the computer side with RSS and such. 11.05.54 # if they are then sure, of course, mp3 playback is possible :) 11.06.30 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.06.37 # that's not really what he is asking about 11.06.52 # afaik there is no solution to automatically update the player with new podcasts 11.07.06 # but it's very easy to do it with some scripts 11.07.24 # not sure if there is any way to have itunes update podcasts with a usb/hd-based player 11.07.33 # OK, I give up... Anyone know what the keys are for Minesweeper on the iPod? 11.09.48 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 11.10.25 # Ah OK, Select + Play to discover 11.12.38 # i meant in itunes i can setup to "update my podcasts" etc 11.13.14 # that puts my podcasts to the itunes folders F03 etc 11.14.25 # maybe its not possible 11.17.03 # cmug, TagCache will let you browse files by id3tag instead of folders.. 11.17.24 # so you can build a database of all the mp3s on your disk, and if the podcasts are tagged correctly and a valid format e.g. mp3, they will show up in the browser. 11.17.33 # midkay, hmm, ill check that out 11.17.46 # but can it separate podcasts from normal music somehow? 11.18.06 # not unless they're tagged differently.. 11.18.09 # ok 11.18.18 # e.g. Album = "Podcast" or something.. 11.18.33 # it lets you browse by artist, album, song .. so whatever they're tagged as, they'll show up as. 11.20.06 # ok 11.20.08 # thanks 11.20.14 # it could be just what im looking for 11.20.18 Join Vladoman [0] (n=Vladoman@dsl-cus-098-041.de.clara.net) 11.20.21 # hopefully :) np 11.20.41 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-75-219.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr) 11.27.27 Join Ribs [0] (n=ribs@212.159.107.123) 11.28.00 # bbl 11.28.03 Part amiconn 11.29.18 Quit wehn (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11.36.21 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.38.24 Quit Vladoman (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.40.07 # * JdGordon is really getting sick of playlist.c :p 11.40.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.43.57 # haha 11.44.32 Quit bluey- ("Leaving") 11.49.54 Join german_snail [0] (n=s@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za) 11.51.04 Quit german_snail (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.06.27 Join GarfTop [0] (i=Garf@pdpc/supporter/active/Garf) 12.10.09 # Is anyone here able to fetch https://datatype.helixcommunity.org/mp3dec.html 12.10.26 # I can't find any way to get it without an account, and the account registration system appears to be broken 12.15.15 # alternatively, memory usage data on MAD would also be handy 12.19.38 # is this good enough: https://helixcommunity.org/viewcvs/cgi/viewcvs.cgi/datatype/mp3/codec/fixpt/ 12.19.57 # fetch the files one by one? :-P 12.20.06 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 12.20.34 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.21.05 # use some wget magic :) 12.22.04 # would have to be some complicated magic, since just clicking the file links doesn't work either, need to click correct link one level deeper 12.22.50 Join TeaSea [0] (n=Thunderc@lonsdale.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 12.25.47 Quit mirak (Remote closed the connection) 12.26.37 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-79-219.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 12.28.13 Join XavierGr_ [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp126-35.adsl.forthnet.gr) 12.29.38 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-66-149.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) 12.33.04 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=Yngwiejo@dsl-88-218-17-158.customers.vivodi.gr) 12.33.25 Quit mirak (Remote closed the connection) 12.34.20 Join kbob [0] (n=dcf5b383@labb.contactor.se) 12.35.56 # anyone know of any issues that would cause rockbox bootloader to hang at 'loading firmware' on an iriver h340? 12.37.29 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-79-219.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 12.37.50 Join german_snail [0] (n=s@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za) 12.38.09 Join k2bob [0] (n=kbob@220.245.250.65) 12.38.29 # ok it's me this time 12.38.30 # anyone know of any issues that would cause rockbox bootloader to hang at 'loading firmware' on an iriver h340? 12.38.59 Quit kbob (Client Quit) 12.40.58 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 12.41.19 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 12.44.46 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-3-90.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 12.45.56 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.46.48 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.50.02 Quit Kohlrabi (Nick collision from services.) 12.50.08 Join Kohlriba [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-141-143.pools.arcor-ip.net) 12.52.02 Quit hannesd (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.53.07 # k2bob: Maybe low battery, corrupt filesystem. Is this the first time you tried Rockbox, or has it been working in the past and suddenly stopped? 12.55.04 Join hannesd_ [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 12.57.00 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp126-125.adsl.forthnet.gr) 12.58.04 Quit Spacksaw (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.58.53 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.00.06 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 13.00.14 # * petur does his biggest commit until now :D 13.00.55 # * amiconn ducks 13.01.10 # * petur was already behind that rock 13.01.11 Join Acksaw [0] (n=Acksaw@spc1-stok5-0-0-cust770.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) 13.01.15 # linuxstb: it's the first time 13.01.31 # and the battery is reasonably charged 13.01.48 # i can press record and load the original firmware fine 13.03.05 Join powr-toc [0] (n=r@84-51-129-124.rickmo645.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 13.03.17 # linuxstb: could it still be the filesystem? 13.05.28 # phew.... 13.06.49 Quit gtkspert ("leaving") 13.07.03 Join gtkspert [0] (n=gtkspert@124-168-66-103.dyn.iinet.net.au) 13.10.13 # petur:So..what are the changes in the backdrop behavior, now? 13.10.36 # it should always work now ;) 13.11.24 # What happen when you load a theme that does not specify a bacdrop and there's an old one? 13.11.36 # if you loaded a backdrop by loading a theme while in the WPS screen and then came back, the backdrop was removed again 13.12.01 Join webguest28 [0] (n=3e398c7e@labb.contactor.se) 13.12.20 # there's a fall-back now: if no wps backdrop, use main backdrop, if none there use bg colors 13.13.15 # I tried as many combinations as possible, feel free to try to break it :P 13.13.34 # and what happens to the menu backdrop? 13.14.03 # I mean, while loading a "backdrop-free" theme 13.14.17 # if the theme doesn't specify one it keeps the previous one 13.14.19 Quit Ribs ("Leaving") 13.14.32 # oh... 13.14.40 # because the backdrop may not come from the theme 13.14.49 # the user can specify one himself 13.15.01 # so it reverts your previous commit? 13.15.30 Quit Poka64 ("back soon") 13.15.31 Quit XavierGr_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.15.38 # eh? Did it clear the menu backdrop if the theme had none? 13.16.24 # Well, I haven't tried...but I thought that it did that....sorry 13.16.37 # It shouldn't imho 13.16.38 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.16.39 # It seems we need a general way to specify "built-in default" for settings which can take a file 13.16.44 # But you are right about the backdrops...they shouldn't be cleared 13.17.08 # if a theme doesn't specify one... 13.17.44 # we should mark if the backdrop came from a theme or from the user 13.18.13 # I think that it would be better if we could make themes able to clear backdrops 13.18.29 Join Lear [0] (n=chatzill@h21n4c1o285.bredband.skanova.com) 13.18.31 # something like... backdrop: no 13.18.47 # yeah, something like that 13.19.38 Quit webguest28 ("CGI:IRC") 13.19.45 Join pixelma_ [0] (n=54bd653e@labb.contactor.se) 13.20.08 # People are complaining that sometimes they "loose" the text (eg. use a black backdrop and then loading a theme with black foreground colour) 13.20.57 # and then the have to reset settings or something 13.21.58 Join Poka64 [0] (i=peter@hd5e241c0.gavlegardarna.gavle.to) 13.22.08 Quit ender` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.22.17 Join ender` [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 13.22.37 # i've installed rockbox on my ipod video but when i access the drive and do a cntrl+a, it says something like 350mb... and when i right click the drive from 'my computer' it says 15gb... why can't i see my mp3s? 13.23.44 Part GarfTop ("Make a new plan, Stan!") 13.25.07 # show hidden files? 13.27.05 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (n=54bd653e@labb.contactor.se) 13.28.11 Join Hansmaulwurf [0] (n=maerlyn@p5081CB0A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.30.49 # oh ta 13.31.09 Join Ribs [0] (n=ribs@212.159.107.123) 13.38.22 Join Murmur2k [0] (n=thwwjb@83.245.115.20) 13.38.35 # Hi all 13.40.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.40.44 # heya 13.41.15 # Just installed rockbox today - looks great - finally FLAC on my Ipod! 13.42.51 # so if i wanna put my mp3s into dirs like /music/artist/album/, must i do it manually? cause it's still in that itunes format F01 F02 etc... 13.43.49 # I did it manually when building up my collection, don't know if there are tools to do that - there probably are 13.44.05 # google is your friend (TM) 13.45.07 # Anyone notice how the hard drive accesses a song frequently during song playback? Isn't it cached? 13.45.26 # FLAC files are big 13.45.33 # this is with mp3 13.45.37 # 4mb 13.45.55 # oh 13.46.03 # or is it my build or something? 13.46.40 # it should be stuffing the buffer full, but this isn't my area of expertise :) 13.47.18 # ok thanks 13.47.41 # if i delete iPod_Control folder will rockbox still run? 13.47.45 # yeah google is my friend 13.47.55 # but i don't mind asking noob questions 13.48.03 # Also any idea how to enable my full 60mb cache on my 5g Ipod? Currently only using 30mb 13.48.39 # Murmur2k: still on the to do list 13.49.04 # probably shortly after the feature freeze 13.50.01 # cool 13.50.24 # Sorry got all the questions - but was amazed to see this development while searching google today1 13.51.41 Join Daishi [0] (n=daishi@ool-45703854.dyn.optonline.net) 13.52.43 # I am guessing that MP4 Video is a long way off right ;) 13.57.36 # * petur swears at InstallShield 14.00.29 # has anybody got a recent rockbox ipod 5G build with album art patch etc 14.00.37 # to save me compiling pls 14.00.49 # there are in the forum 14.00.58 # in the Album Art thread 14.01.07 # thats quite an old build isn't it? 14.01.13 # dunno 14.01.31 # how do I move around dirs in cygwin? 14.01.44 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.02.18 # nm 14.03.11 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-3-90.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 14.05.13 # Murmur2k: lazy, new, album art. pick any two 14.06.29 # ?? 14.06.40 # where lazy means not compiling yourself 14.06.54 # being rude, are we? 14.06.59 # was that rude? 14.07.02 # i didn't mean it to be 14.07.09 # :( 14.07.31 # sorry I am new 14.08.46 # I am trying to compile it now anyway 14.11.59 # can't get the ../tools/configure part to work 14.14.19 Quit pixelma ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 14.14.21 # and what seems to be the error? 14.14.32 # installed everything? including binutils? 14.16.09 # I followed the instructions - installed cygwin 14.16.13 # then installed from URL 14.16.20 # No such file or directory 14.17.24 Quit obo ("bye") 14.17.32 Join pixelma [0] (n=54bd653e@labb.contactor.se) 14.19.01 Quit petur ("reboot (while swearing at microsoft)") 14.21.16 Nick Kohlriba is now known as Kohlrabi (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-141-143.pools.arcor-ip.net) 14.23.57 # murmur2k: sounds like you're in the wrong directory then. what does pwd say? 14.26.26 # its says "/HOME/WILL" 14.26.47 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 14.27.13 # where did you do the cvs checkout (or unpacked the sources)? 14.27.38 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m232.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 14.28.06 # i simply ran cygwin and let it download default set 14.28.12 # then put in the the rockbox url 14.28.28 # I then downloaded the source 14.28.42 # unzipped it into C:\rockbox 14.29.06 # ah, but then you need to CD to it, like "cd /cygdrive/c/rockbox" 14.29.19 # yep - i have cd'd into it 14.29.39 # then pwd would've said something else... 14.29.49 # ok sorry.. 14.29.57 # anyway, when in the rockbox folder, create a new folder there (any name really, but something like "build" is good). 14.29.57 # pwd gives... 14.30.03 # ok 14.30.10 # cd to that new directory, and you're ready to run configure. 14.30.41 # ok i am in rockbox/build 14.31.14 Quit JdGordon ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.11") 14.31.22 # ../tools/configure still says not found 14.31.44 # okay, so what does "ls .." say? 14.32.00 # Should include stuff like apps, firmware, tools... 14.32.47 # build rockbox.ipod 14.32.55 # (2 items) 14.32.59 # he, you didn't download the source archive then. 14.33.20 # (or unzipped, if you did download it) 14.33.31 # eh!? 14.33.33 # I am sure I did! 14.33.40 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-126-135.pools.arcor-ip.net) 14.33.59 # these are source right? http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml 14.34.15 # oooooops 14.34.20 Quit Seed (Remote closed the connection) 14.34.24 # it can be found there, yes, but you must select the source archive... 14.34.38 # rotfl 14.34.45 # how embarassing! 14.35.14 # sorry for wasting your time! 14.36.45 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@85.64.200.85.dynamic.barak-online.net) 14.39.50 # that works :) Cheers 14.42.45 Quit ScoTTie () 14.44.42 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@mrbg-d9b94aae.pool.mediaWays.net) 14.45.23 Join anathema [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust696.belf.cable.ntl.com) 14.46.23 Join SereR0KR [0] (n=Fletcher@Fd1b5.f.strato-dslnet.de) 14.48.29 Quit mirak (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.49.06 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-79-219.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 14.49.36 # wtf? .NET 2.0 kills windows installer 3.1? Good job Microsoft 14.51.36 # anyone know of any issues that would cause rockbox bootloader to hang at 'loading firmware' on an iriver h340? someone before said it could be a corrupt filesystem -- how do i check for this? 14.52.18 # attach usb while powered down, then use disk check tool on PC 14.52.35 # in between, power on h340 :) 14.53.03 # peter: what disk check tool? 14.53.11 # what os? 14.53.17 # i'm in windows atm 14.53.38 # chkdsk /f (commandline) or rightclick the drive,... 14.53.50 # ok thanks, i'll do that 14.54.04 # where is the patch program found? 14.54.17 # part of cygwin setup 14.54.37 # ok thanks 14.55.07 # ok i did the chkdsk and it found no problems. any other ideas why it won't load? 14.59.04 Join Rondom_ [0] (n=Rondom@mrbg-d9b953c7.pool.mediaWays.net) 14.59.18 Quit Rondom (Nick collision from services.) 14.59.22 Nick Rondom_ is now known as Rondom (n=Rondom@mrbg-d9b953c7.pool.mediaWays.net) 14.59.31 Quit petur ("reboot") 15.00.54 Quit Lear ("Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.2/2006030804]") 15.01.06 Join JdGordon [0] (i=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 15.03.56 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 15.04.31 # petur: Plugging in USB will automatically power on the H300 15.07.29 # right you are :) 15.07.40 # so no ideas? 15.12.39 Join crwl [0] (n=crawlie@kek-kone.kekkola.jyu.fi) 15.13.44 # * amiconn finally found a way to convert an utf-8 text file into window's native encoding within vbscript :-) 15.16.53 Join Rondom_ [0] (n=Rondom@mrbg-d9b953c7.pool.mediaWays.net) 15.16.53 Quit Rondom (Nick collision from services.) 15.16.53 Nick Rondom_ is now known as Rondom (n=Rondom@mrbg-d9b953c7.pool.mediaWays.net) 15.17.45 Quit Acksaw (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.18.56 Join Acksaw [0] (n=Acksaw@spc1-stok5-0-0-cust770.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) 15.20.11 Quit k2bob () 15.21.10 # Hafta use ADODB.Stream instead of a filesystem object for reading the .lang file 15.31.35 # amiconn: that's still impossible to have charging from USB in UMS mode ? 15.31.49 # ? 15.32.02 Quit pixelma ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 15.32.10 # amiconn: with H300 15.32.29 # The H300 does always charge from USB afaik 15.32.41 # amiconn: ? 15.32.51 # with iriver firmware you can't do both 15.32.56 # and I think you can't with rockbox 15.32.57 # as well 15.33.22 # amiconn: when the h300 is mounted, then usb doesn't charge 15.33.33 # :-/ 15.33.33 # For me it does... though slowly 15.33.57 # I think you misunderstand 15.33.58 # If you use the disk, the drain from the disk is larger than the charging current 15.34.24 # amiconn: but you don't see the bars charging like if you plug the alimentation cable 15.34.31 # If you just have it connected but don't access it, then the disk should spin down, and the battery should slowly charge 15.35.00 # I don't think linux power it off 15.35.11 Part Murmur2k 15.35.20 # charging from usb without accessing works. slowly but it works 15.40.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.44.28 Quit Kohlrabi (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.47.14 Part JdGordon 15.53.19 Quit petur ("here today, gone tomorrow") 15.54.26 Quit powr-toc (Remote closed the connection) 15.54.55 Join ender [0] (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 15.56.05 Nick Acksaw is now known as ACK4A5 (n=Acksaw@spc1-stok5-0-0-cust770.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) 15.56.14 Nick ACK4A5 is now known as ACK54W (n=Acksaw@spc1-stok5-0-0-cust770.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) 15.56.49 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 15.58.43 Quit ender` (Nick collision from services.) 15.59.00 Nick ender is now known as ender` (i=ychat@84.52.165.220) 16.02.47 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp127-62.adsl.forthnet.gr) 16.10.32 Join powerrangersfan1 [0] (n=chatzill@ip70-179-116-87.dc.dc.cox.net) 16.13.24 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.13.27 Quit powerrangersfan1 (Client Quit) 16.14.20 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp127-62.adsl.forthnet.gr) 16.15.39 Join TCK [0] (i=TCK@85-210-39-8.dsl.pipex.com) 16.16.12 Join PaulJam [0] (n=PaulJam_@vpn-3042.gwdg.de) 16.17.37 Quit hannesd_ ("Client suicide") 16.18.09 Quit Hansmaulwurf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.20.08 Join powerrangersfan1 [0] (n=chatzill@ip70-179-116-87.dc.dc.cox.net) 16.20.37 # hey is it suppose to take 11 hours to load 20GB of music on a ipod video 16.20.48 Join yuriks [0] (n=yuriks@201-35-189-181.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) 16.21.08 # also how do i install these files? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpod5g 16.21.19 Join hannesd_ [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 16.21.23 # just copy them to the ipod;) 16.21.31 # in the wps directory 16.21.35 # I think? 16.22.19 # oh ok but it says i need a extra patch? 16.22.36 Quit hannesd_ (Remote closed the connection) 16.23.43 # i wanted to install ipod blue5g 16.24.28 # no the itunes theme and it says i need the album art patch 16.26.44 # ok so i got the album art patch now how to install the theme and the patch? 16.27.18 Quit yuriks_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.28.01 Quit [TCK] (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.28.46 # patch the sources 16.28.58 # how 16.29.02 # i am new to rockbox 16.29.15 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WorkingWithPatches 16.29.40 # kk 16.31.04 # ouch it looks all hard all i did in download the theme file and album art patch 16.32.21 # is there any mac gui to install the patch and themes> 16.32.42 # i wish if rockbox had a gui installer too! 16.33.34 # installing patches couldn't be automated... they're not plugins, they actually change the source code, so they can very easily break stuff when the main source code is updated... 16.33.58 # patches are really just experimental stuff... if you want an "easy" way to get their features you've gotta wait for them to make it into the official code, or find a friend who can patch for you 16.35.19 # oh so dont do them just stick with what i got? also on my ipod i cannot play doom it says error? also is there a way to make the apple os defult and rockbox not defult bootup 16.36.06 # powerrangersfan1, perhaps you should take a few minutes to read through the FAQ page. 16.36.26 # i already did and nothing came up 16.39.29 # hmm 16.39.44 # so do you now 16.40.01 Quit Rondom ("I'm leaving on a jetplane, don't know when I'll be back again...") 16.40.21 # it took me 11 hours to put 3010 songs and video and stuff on a ipod video wow 16.40.30 # powerrangersfan1, look at page 46: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo-20060521.pdf 16.40.43 # there are is a patched build of rockbox with albumart for ipod on the forum 16.40.43 # ok i will 16.40.54 # were 16.41.13 # http://kingshurst.digitalbrain.com/kingshurst/accounts/pupils/christopherba/web/Public/rb_albumArt_5g_CVS_170606_1741.zip 16.41.19 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=3531.0 16.41.53 # downloading it how to install it? 16.44.31 Join hannesd_ [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 16.44.31 # ps i am running on os x 16.45.01 # have you even installed rockbox? 16.45.52 # if you have, the files just has a patched version of rockbox, just overwrite the files you already have on the ipod 16.45.58 # *the file 16.46.26 # ok so i unzipped http://kingshurst.digitalbrain.com/kingshurst/accounts/pupils/christopherba/web/Public/rb_albumArt_5g_CVS_170606_1741.zip that file and i came out with a folder with one fil named .ipod what should i do? 16.47.18 # first of all 16.47.21 # answer my question 16.47.26 # have you installed rockbox? 16.48.10 # yes last night 16.48.34 # that zip has rockbox.ipod and the rockbox folder 16.48.43 # you should put both on your ipod 16.48.49 # just as you did when you installed 16.48.54 # ok 16.49.17 # also about the doom game i need to install more files to get it working any patch for that 16.49.49 # I suggest you check out the wiki/forum 16.50.20 # power rangers sucks btw;P 16.50.26 # it sucks a _lot_ 16.50.49 # hey people... 16.51.12 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 16.51.17 # powerrangersfan1 : http://youtube.com/watch?v=LoUBATHjWf0 ;) 16.51.57 # ok i will 16.52.33 # :) 16.53.07 # hey when i copied the two files onto my ipod it says i cannot copy .rockbox folder cause it is invisable 16.53.21 Quit ender` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.54.11 # I don't know os x 16.54.17 # but you could use the console I guess 16.54.28 # no 16.54.36 # how do i make it uninvisable 16.54.41 # you can't 16.54.44 # or 16.54.51 # you could rename it to just "rockbox" 16.55.02 # and then rename it back to ".rockbox" when you have copied it 16.55.07 # should i just delete the folder on ipod and move it again 16.57.19 # ok i renamed the rockbox folder and when it finishded copyed onto my ipod i will rename it back to what it should be i guss 16.57.26 # i have no clue 16.59.45 # hey help i cannot rename it, it says already a folder with that name? should i delete the orignal .rockbox folder on my ipod thaat i installed last night? 17.01.30 # ???????????????? 17.01.56 # you only need one question mark;) 17.02.30 # if you are prepared to reinstall, I would say go ahead and try it 17.02.31 # well i dont know what i should do? it will not let me copy the folder 17.02.59 # errrrrr..... 17.03.10 # it takes to long to reinstall 17.03.18 # why? 17.03.40 # i wish if there was a betterway cause no i got to do tagcache all over again 17.03.46 # oh 17.04.11 # I don't use tagcache so I can't say anything about that 17.04.28 # oh well i already did that so i guss i will be alot of problems 17.04.30 # and I'm not saying you have to do it again 17.04.40 # I just mean that if anything goes wrong;) 17.04.58 # can someone clarify why whould one declare a function static? (I know about variables but I don't get it for functions) 17.06.14 # in java you can then use that function without actually creating a new object of that class 17.06.40 # but I don' think that is relevant for c 17.06.46 # yes I know about that, though I think the meaning in C is different 17.06.51 # XavierGr: making a function static, makes it unlinkable from other compiled object files 17.06.52 # http://www.phim.unibe.ch/comp_doc/c_manual/C/SYNTAX/static.htm 17.07.00 # "static functions are functions that are only visable to other functions in the same file." 17.07.01 # ;) 17.07.07 # ok with that zipped folder you gave me do i have album art? also what build is it? 17.07.15 # so generally it's good to make all functions static, that are used only inside the current source file (not declared in header files) 17.07.41 # ah so if a static function decleration is found on an .h file, other modules that include that file will not recognise the function? 17.07.58 # ah okay 17.08.04 # forget the previous line 17.08.10 # XavierGr: yep, that function is only usable from the source file it has been originally declared 17.08.32 # same goes for static global variable also 17.08.48 # so what happens if we have a static function in a header file? 17.09.02 Quit powerrangersfan1 ("Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.3/2006042618]") 17.09.39 # XavierGr: probably compiler just generates an error 17.09.59 # anyway, it wont work if called from other objects 17.10.15 # so the morale is: No static on header files :p 17.15.29 # anyone use foobar here 17.16.50 # Yes. 17.21.52 # static functions in header files work fine, in fact i think you should _only_ have static functions. declarations of functions that are in .c files should not be static of course 17.22.07 Quit JBGood (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17.22.19 # i only read 3 lines or so of what you wrote so ignore me if you already knew that :) 17.24.02 Join ScoTTie [0] (n=scott@unaffiliated/scottie) 17.27.50 Quit mikearthur ("Konversation terminated!") 17.28.34 # i really hope the cpu emulator works... 17.34.31 Join Hansmaulwurf [0] (n=maerlyn@p5081CB0A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.35.57 Quit Moos ("Glory to Rockbox !!!") 17.40.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.44.24 # hahah 17.45.52 # yay... space invaders emulator almost working... decently :) 17.45.57 Join maeck [0] (n=chatzill@c-24-5-215-181.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 17.52.57 Quit _Lucretia (Connection timed out) 17.54.27 Quit anathema (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.55.03 Join _Lucretia [0] (n=munkee@62.56.67.130) 18.06.23 Quit hannesd_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.06.42 Quit maeck (Remote closed the connection) 18.07.42 Join hannesd_ [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 18.09.52 Quit TeaSea ("Leaving") 18.09.59 # will you release 3.0 tomorrow? 18.10.17 # or is it postponed one week? 18.12.39 Join anathema [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust696.belf.cable.ntl.com) 18.12.48 # I haven't seen any recent discussion, so I think that decision has yet to be made. 18.13.23 Join jbauman [0] (n=Johnq@66.216.165.61.dynamic.dejazzd.com) 18.14.02 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-29-106.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.18.55 Join powerrangersfan1 [0] (n=chatzill@ip70-179-116-87.dc.dc.cox.net) 18.19.20 # hey i have a ipod video how do i make the text size of the display bigger? 18.19.54 # change the font 18.20.19 # i did 18.20.41 # also i does not play mp3? 18.20.50 # ? 18.20.51 # lol 18.20.56 # it does play MP3 18.21.02 # or hast it DRM? 18.21.14 # i could not get any mp3 file to work 18.21.36 # what bitrate? 18.21.42 # 128 18.21.58 # did you buy the files? 18.22.09 # no 18.23.05 # nevermind it was a acc file i think 18.23.05 # what happens exactly when you choose a mp3 file? 18.23.31 # (powerrangersfan1) i could not get any mp3 file to work 18.23.36 # now what? 18.24.23 # so what font would make it bigger? 18.25.04 Quit powerrangersfan1 ("Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.3/2006042618]") 18.25.40 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-89-99.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.26.04 # http://www.rockbox.org/fonts/ 18.26.08 # .... 18.29.08 # hum 18.29.16 # i let my ipod opened all night 18.29.23 # and now it shows the version screen 18.29.27 # how can i get out of it? 18.29.37 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.30.32 # nvm, i simply rebooted it 18.31.24 # i got time to translate rockbox now :P 18.36.27 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-21-84.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.39.41 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.42.28 Quit ScoTTie () 18.42.52 Join ScoTTie [0] (n=scott@unaffiliated/scottie) 18.47.40 Join oranje17 [0] (i=unkn0wn@213.13.208.202) 18.47.45 # hey 18.48.01 # i have a question, how can i listen to lower FM frequencies on the iriver h120? 18.48.22 # it somehow stops at 87.5MHz 18.48.45 # all radios do that that i've ever seen 18.48.56 # in japan there are lower radio frequencies 18.49.51 # and the japanese iriver firmware supports it 18.50.11 # oranje17: There's a patch on the patch tracker to enable that: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/2876 18.50.34 # thanks a lot :) 18.50.52 # how do i use the patch though? 18.51.01 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.51.10 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WorkingWithPatches 18.51.14 # You have to use that patch to modify the Rockbox source code, and then compile Rockbox yourself. 18.51.22 # oh :S 18.52.20 # well, the space invaders emulator somewhat works :) 18.52.29 # \o/ 18.52.53 # Have you emulated the screen yet? 18.52.56 # aye 18.53.03 # * linuxstb wants screenshots 18.53.06 # konischiwa 18.53.11 # :) 18.53.14 # :) 18.53.20 # okay, i'll take one in a second 18.53.31 Quit oranje17 () 18.53.38 # my ipod is running like, really hot... 18.53.38 # bluey-: not even close :P 18.53.48 # i thought so lol 18.58.24 # http://sharpe.bastardoperatorfromhell.org/images/spaceinvaders.png this was taken without stopping drawing first, which is why some things aren't drawn yet/or are torn. 19.00.45 # now i have to go through the source and make sure it's correct... 19.01.19 Join TeaSea [0] (n=Thunderc@lonsdale.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 19.03.55 Join dpro [0] (n=x@chello080109121047.8.15.vie.surfer.at) 19.04.23 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A470CA.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.07.47 # any thoughts? 19.08.14 # Is that naturally how the space invaders screen is oriented? 19.08.47 # nope 19.08.52 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-77-103.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr) 19.09.16 # but naturally, it's rotated clockwise 90 degrees 19.09.28 # or counter clockwise... 19.09.30 # something. 19.10.18 Join webguest77 [0] (n=51400b8c@labb.contactor.se) 19.13.32 # sharpe: why did you oriented the screen that way? is it intended? 19.13.54 # webguest77: yes 19.14.03 # Are you left-handed? 19.14.07 # better imho to have it with the normal orientation, no? 19.15.01 # webguest77: The Space Invaders screen is too big to orientate it normally. It has to either be rotated or shrunk. Given that choice, I would prefer it rotated. 19.15.03 # the cabinents were rotated 90 degrees to have it actually as it should be, if i were to have it vertically, it wouldn't fit the screen. 19.15.12 # ok 19.15.46 Join _Lucretia_ [0] (n=munkee@dyn-62-56-121-41.dslaccess.co.uk) 19.16.05 # better this way than nothing I guess :) 19.16.30 # it's really the same concept as pacbox's screen... 19.16.31 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-67-189.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) 19.16.32 # sharpe: Are you going to try and use the clickwheel for movement, or just the left/right buttons? 19.16.44 # eh, i think just left and right 19.16.50 # up/down if it's rotated... 19.17.39 # sharpe: have you planed tp provide one patch once you polish the things a bit? 19.17.51 # * webguest77 wants to tset it on his box :) 19.18.03 # *test 19.18.10 # i will eventually, after i get things fixed 19.18.21 # goodish 19.18.29 # such as, why it stops after the first enemy is hit during the demo 19.19.08 # is your c64 emulator project aborted or something? or is your patch somwhere? 19.19.21 # it's just off to the side for the moment 19.19.29 # OK 19.20.00 # maybe if you do a patch such other devs will want to improve the things, no? 19.20.12 # probably 19.20.20 # just haven't gotten around to it :) 19.20.32 # haha :] 19.21.11 # have you something you already finished yet? :-P 19.21.19 # for rockbox, that is 19.21.25 # not really 19.21.39 # just kinding ;-) 19.21.41 # there was the plugin for the packaged wpses, but that kinda died off 19.22.07 # those 2 other projects spunds more commitable imho 19.22.11 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.22.13 # *sounds 19.22.24 # what two other projects? 19.22.47 # c64 and space invaders I meant 19.22.50 # yeah 19.23.31 # hopefully you will not lost the motivation for ;) 19.23.42 # heh 19.24.19 Quit ^BeN^ ("MULEz SCRIPT: I'm not lost, but I don't know where I am.") 19.24.47 Quit bluey- (Remote closed the connection) 19.24.56 # * webguest77 sends some bounties to sharpe via IRC 19.25.06 # :-) 19.25.45 # well... i can claim i successfully ported an emulator to rockbox in under 16 hours. even if parts of it doesn't work. 19.26.01 # haha XD 19.26.36 Quit german_snail (Success) 19.27.07 # * webguest77 give to sharpe another 16 hours for the c64 emulator working ;) 19.27.41 # heh, in like twenty hours i have to go to school. 19.27.51 # oops :) 19.28.12 # what do you studing, I mean which grade...? 19.28.16 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-126-135.pools.arcor-ip.net) 19.28.38 # eh, in tenth grade. weird isn't it? 19.29.13 # hehe, bad luck ;) 19.29.53 # you are a young "rocker" then 19.30.08 # yes, yes i am. 19.30.16 # goodie 19.30.42 # well, at least i'll be able tp keep rockbox going for a number of years :) 19.30.48 # I guess you have good skills for a battle with c64 emulator porting 19.30.58 # hehe :) 19.31.55 # heh... i've not been taught anything dealing with computer software, nor hardware for that matter... discovered everything myself... 19.32.01 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.33.02 # sharpe: pure autodidact? I'm impressed, really 19.33.31 # heh, thanks 19.33.34 # what are you studiying then? somethong not related to computer sciences 19.33.56 # there's practically nothing offered related to computers. 19.34.35 # good, good 19.36.31 # hmm... 19.36.43 Quit _Lucretia (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.37.06 # i keep having deja vu... 19.40.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.41.52 Quit PaulJam (".") 19.44.00 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-46-246.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 19.44.20 Join PaulJam [0] (i=Paul@vpn-3042.gwdg.de) 19.44.25 # time to go through all ~245 instructions and make sure they're correct! 19.44.52 # or 243 19.47.23 # time for me to go 19.47.31 # c you later 19.47.34 # later 19.47.35 Quit webguest77 ("CGI:IRC") 19.48.27 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-141-143.pools.arcor-ip.net) 19.48.28 # ooh, i found a part where it's not correct... 19.48.45 Join w0ng [0] (i=zomg@Toronto-HSE-ppp3860463.sympatico.ca) 19.50.08 Quit PaulJam (".") 19.50.25 Join PaulJam [0] (i=Paul@vpn-3042.gwdg.de) 19.54.05 Join ender` [0] (n=ender@84.52.165.220) 19.57.05 Join XavierGr_ [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp122-120.adsl.forthnet.gr) 19.59.38 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.10.01 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.11.34 Nick XavierGr_ is now known as XavierGr (n=XavierGr@ppp122-120.adsl.forthnet.gr) 20.16.58 # well, fixed one of the problems of it freezing... now on to the next... 20.18.21 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-45-106.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 20.21.22 # is tagcache not ignoring hidden windows files? it ignores my whole itunes folder 20.21.40 # it shouldn't ignore hidden files... 20.22.45 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-27-194.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 20.24.27 Quit kingspawn ("leaving") 20.26.17 Join kingspawn [0] (n=anakron@204.80-203-21.nextgentel.com) 20.28.29 Quit bluey- ("Leaving") 20.30.47 Join bluebrother [0] (i=u03kkzO8@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 20.34.21 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.37.35 Quit damaki__ (Connection timed out) 20.38.10 Quit MarcoPolo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.39.29 Join freqmod [0] (n=freqmod@254.80-203-96.nextgentel.com) 20.42.20 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.42.50 Quit mirak (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.43.43 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-79-219.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 20.44.34 Quit w0ng (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.44.50 # hmm the h1x0 screens aren't even grayscale? 20.45.13 # yes? 20.45.52 # ze: 2-bit 20.46.14 # markun: 4 shades? 20.46.24 # it's still grayscale 20.47.00 # was just guessing from pics on google images, most look 1bit 20.47.09 # obvious half-toning and such 20.51.31 # so would i be unjustified in feeling that an h1x0 would be a downgrade from a karma, except for rockbox (which is a considerable exception) recording and fm? 20.51.58 # ze: the karma doesnt have a opical in/out 20.52.04 # if i remember right 20.52.18 # i don't have anything optical anyway 20.52.30 # does the h1x0 have a dock with rca outs? 20.52.31 # heh 20.52.31 # does the karma have a remote with LCD? 20.53.00 # i never saw the point of a remote on something thats on your person 20.53.10 # where's the remote go? hanging out catching on stuff? or in your pocket next to what its controlling? 20.53.29 # i find it extremly usefull 20.53.32 # heh 20.53.38 Join mirak_ [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-79-219.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 20.54.14 # i listening with rockbox 2 hous per day on the train, and with the remote i dont need the main unit out of my bag 20.54.16 # i'm not likely to get the remote unless it comes with it anyway 20.54.44 # looks like the 40's tend to, but the 20's have it seperate 20.55.04 # both have it 20.55.07 # normally 21.06.38 # ze: You don't need a dock to access any of the features of the h1x0s - it's all built in. 21.07.18 # And the HDD is reliable 21.07.52 # and another plus: 21.07.54 # its not apple 21.07.57 # ;), sorry 21.08.38 # gah... 21.08.49 # can't figure it out... 21.11.14 Quit Hansmaulwurf ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 21.13.17 # how many strings are there to translate in the main english.lang file? 21.13.26 # just to give me an idea of the amount of work to do 21.14.30 # i want to translate rockbox to esperanto 21.16.17 Join german_snail [0] (n=s@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za) 21.16.41 Join mirak__ [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-13-168.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.19.07 Quit mirak_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.20.00 Quit mirak (Connection timed out) 21.23.26 Quit lostnihilist ("Leaving") 21.27.13 # Aghaster: There are 607 string IDs... 21.27.35 # are all the strings up to date, re the release? 21.28.19 # linuxstb: i found out the www.rockbox.org/lang pages, but it doesnt really explain how to do it 21.28.30 # freeze going to the end of the month? 21.28.32 # is there any other page where they give out more info about it? 21.28.35 # Sorry, I can't help. I've never translated anything. 21.28.43 # k 21.28.57 # Probably in the wiki somewhere though - try searching for "langv2" 21.29.14 # BHSPitMonkey: No-one has suggested otherwise. 21.29.24 # k 21.30.11 # bbl 21.30.13 Part amiconn 21.31.02 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LangFiles 21.31.04 # found out 21.31.44 # Just won a H140 :-) 21.32.16 # cool 21.32.22 # how did you win it? 21.32.25 # eBay 21.32.34 # what price :P? 21.32.40 # Will be a nice replacement for my slowly running out of space 120 21.32.47 # 172.50 + 18 21.32.49 # USD 21.33.00 # thats cool for you 21.33.01 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote closed the connection) 21.33.07 # that's otherwise known as buying 21.33.19 # Sure 21.33.27 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-123-228.pools.arcor-ip.net) 21.33.27 # but also known as winning an auction 21.33.52 # yes, but he said he won an h140, not an auction, but i'll just shut up now :) 21.34.09 # hehe 21.34.22 # Point remains, I'm happy 21.34.38 # thats what matters 21.35.22 # I suppose my 120 is rather obsolete 21.36.07 Join Cassandra- [0] (n=Cassandr@cpc3-oxfd8-0-0-cust240.oxfd.cable.ntl.com) 21.38.08 # any cons to an h320 as opposed to an h120? 21.38.25 Quit SereR0KR ("XChat Aqua") 21.39.03 # is it worth the extra $50 or whatever? is the lack of colors on the screen a noticable degredation for video? is it actually worth a shit for watching video? 21.39.35 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=Steve-O@adsl-66-141-169-130.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 21.40.29 # Its definitely not a Music and Video player, more of a music player with limited video capabilities 21.40.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.41.11 # does rockbox support video? 21.41.17 # on 4G color ipod 21.42.21 # dpassen1: hmm just saw on wikipedia 10fps xvid... thats pretty sad 21.42.21 # No 21.42.36 # ze: Yeah, its clearly not a video player 21.43.14 # 224x180 is hardly high resolution, also. 21.43.41 # so its basically an mp3 player with a color screen 21.43.46 # Yes 21.44.29 # hmm am i missing something about the output power on these? karma specs say 55mW per channel at 16 oms, these irivers say 20mW per channel at 16 oms 21.44.39 # is it really less than half the output power of the karma? 21.45.58 # While I've never handled a Karma, I can't say I've had problems using my 120 with several headphones, but I've never used especially high impedance phones. 21.46.21 # lets see mine are 64oms 21.47.06 # on the karma a level of 26 out of 30 (iirc) is the highest i can stand with these and only ever use in noisy environments like on the freeway 21.47.38 # often times in quiet environments more than 24'll hurt my ears a little 21.48.54 # sigh 21.49.11 # why can't there be a clear-cut upgrade from the karma? 21.49.23 # Because the Chroma was never released 21.49.26 # as long as its been since it came out, you'd think there'd be something clearly better on the market 21.50.11 # It's more subjective than that. 21.50.36 # it also doesn't help that none of the local stores that provide decent service plans have any h1x0's or such 21.52.57 Quit Cassandra (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.52.57 Nick Cassandra- is now known as Cassandra (n=Cassandr@cpc3-oxfd8-0-0-cust240.oxfd.cable.ntl.com) 21.54.23 # like if bestbuy had it, and we got a 3 year service plan, it'd be pretty likely that it'd need replacement by the time something better was out to replace it with 21.54.52 # like maybe something made out of the sigmatel kit based on what was to be the chroma 21.57.17 # I have a bad feeling most of the companies using the Sigmatel kit will cripple it 21.57.34 # probably 21.57.41 # but we can always hope there'll be one that doesn't 21.57.52 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (i=Steve-O@adsl-66-141-169-130.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 21.58.09 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote closed the connection) 21.58.20 # or maybe one that does ok hardware wise even if the firmware sucks but neglects something that gets a foot in the door for opensource firmware replacement 21.58.31 Quit bluebrother ("Leaving") 21.58.41 # or sometihng like that 21.59.55 # But then we're back at the starting point, any Rockboxed DAP has the general feature set (excuse me if I'm wrong) of the Karma/Chroma/Sigmatel SMTP3600 22.00.54 # afaik karma is superior, hardware-wise, to any of the rockboxed players 22.01.04 # the only thing i can find that'd be clearly better than a karma is a rockboxed karma 22.01.09 # imo 22.01.11 # How so? 22.02.33 # huzzas, another pdf viewer request 22.02.42 # yay! 22.03.17 # how is it superior? well some of this may be subjective, but i like its size/shape, the scroll wheel, the audio quality (output power, SNR), the 64-shade grayscale screen (well the h3x0's have color of course, but seem to lack in the other areas), the dock with rca outs, ethernet connectivity 22.04.48 # the ethernet's kindof an odd one... with the rio firmware it only serves to make up for its lack of mass-storage compliance for us linux folk, so in that sense its not that great of a feature that has anything over something rockboxed 22.05.06 # Interesting 22.05.09 # but then if it were rockboxed, it'd allow streaming music, web-based player control, and neat stuff like that 22.06.27 # then the lack of MSC is also made up for more recently by a linux driver for the usb interface that mimicks MSC 22.06.40 # preglow: close it instead of complaining about it on irc :P 22.07.10 # done it already 22.07.26 # the main barrier to it getting rockboxed seems to be public-key encrypted firmware upgrades too, since a lot of its main hardware is the same as various ipods 22.07.43 # but oh well, looks like i'll have to get over that vague possibility 22.08.00 # ze: I think it shows a lot that I've chosen a 140 to replace my 120, even though Rockbox is being ported to iPods and the iAudio X5 22.08.55 # we all know the h1x0 is the best player anyway 22.08.59 # For me, a Rockboxed H1x0 is the best player on the market 22.09.16 # No spurious color screen, just a brilliant music player. 22.09.25 # heh 22.10.30 # so why aren't the h1x0's available anywhere with an in-store service plan? :/ 22.10.50 # Its a rather old player 22.11.02 # i see plenty of new ones on ebay 22.11.04 # but thats like, it 22.11.37 Join webguest18 [0] (n=51400b8c@labb.contactor.se) 22.12.45 # +1 for the h140 like the best music player never made 22.12.52 # iriver stopped making them about 18 months ago (or more) 22.12.54 # iSkins have certainly come down in price for the H1x0, haha 22.13.11 Quit webguest18 (Client Quit) 22.13.24 # whats with this H10whatever stuff 22.13.38 # some iriver thing with a color screen and looks like a touchpad-scroller 22.13.58 # its the only thing i can find at one of the chain stores 22.14.23 # Crippled by iriver firmware, I believe 22.14.27 # the H10TRANCERED specifically 22.14.40 # dpassen1: not rockboxed? 22.14.46 # Not the H10 22.14.56 # No port exists 22.15.08 # i hate them touchpad things too 22.15.35 # Its hardly a direct descendant of the H1x0 and H3x0 series. 22.16.20 # Looking at the hardware specs, it's basically an ipod mini... 22.16.29 # rio sucks as long it isn't UMS. Though I have to say that it has some pretty neat features. But as I said: "If it ain't UMS it sucks!" 22.19.20 # and the hitachi drives were a serious flaw for rio karma 22.19.40 # mine never had a problem until it hit concrete from 4 or 5 feet 22.19.44 # many reported untis were unusable due to hard disk failure 22.19.51 # ouch! 22.20.19 # i had 2 archos's and a nomad zen before i got the karma, and it outlasted all 3 put together 22.21.08 # nomad isn't UMS too. 22.21.26 # yeah i don't want another creative 22.21.34 # I nearly fool my self and buy one. When I learnt it wasn't UMS I bought my beloved H100 22.22.00 # whats up with these color mp3 players having 18bit color 22.22.11 # but yeah rio was cool except the UMS and hitachi drives 22.23.09 # any of the rockboxed contenders have a dock? 22.23.40 # H300 22.23.44 # x5, ipods... 22.24.20 # I have a dock for my H100 too. (self made though) 22.24.41 # XavierGr: got a page on it? 22.24.56 # page? 22.25.00 # ah 22.25.01 # wait 22.25.39 # http://www.misticriver.net/boards/showthread.php?t=4707 22.25.53 # crappy pics though, sorry I don't have a digital camera. 22.28.57 # hmm no audio output on the h300 dock eh 22.29.14 Quit goffa (Remote closed the connection) 22.29.15 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 22.29.33 # nope, but the H300 has line out on the top 22.29.46 # so you can couple a cable there. 22.30.09 # well i got rca-outs on my karma dock going to speakers in my room 22.30.24 # i don't have to mess with any cables, i just drop it in the dock and its charging and hooked to my speakers 22.30.30 # nice 22.30.32 # and just grab it out and it go wwith it 22.30.38 # I want an iPod HiFi... 22.30.48 # they sound pretty amazing 22.31.26 # HiFi? 22.32.12 # http://www.apple.com/ipodhifi/ 22.32.31 # k 22.32.32 # the name is misleading 22.34.27 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 22.35.09 # i wouldn't be opposed to building my own dock, but if nothing has any kind of audio output ports on the bottom of the unit then the kinda thing i do with my karma wouldn't be possible anyway 22.36.07 # i'll probably just resurrect my karma or get a cheap used one and hope it lasts for another couple years untill i find something better to spend >$100 on 22.37.10 # thanks for all the help and info everybody 22.38.09 # maybe if i get a used karma i can sacrifice the mainboard of the old one if there's somebody with a way to read the uBGA flash rom 22.38.41 Join sharpe_ [0] (i=sharpe@user-0c8hc1d.cable.mindspring.com) 22.39.30 # ze I think a rockboxed unit could do the job for you. 22.39.41 # Rockbox has limitless capabilities 22.40.12 Quit sharpe (Nick collision from services.) 22.40.15 Nick sharpe_ is now known as sharpe (i=sharpe@user-0c8hc1d.cable.mindspring.com) 22.40.52 # woo... 22.41.11 # XavierGr: yes but for the cost of getting an h1x0 we'd want to get a replacement plan 22.41.36 # especially since i still feel like it'd be a downgrade in every way but firmware 22.42.30 # BHSPitLappy: http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/electronics-computers/the-ipod-hifi-306/index.htm 22.43.21 # linuxstb: I'll take personal experience over online reviews 22.43.54 # ze: optical in/out!! 22.44.11 # ze: perfect lossless recordings 22.44.20 # ze: what unit you got? 22.44.27 # rio karma AFAIK 22.44.29 # preglow: karma 22.44.34 # wouldn't call that a downgrade, then 22.44.40 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 22.44.50 # XavierGr: i don't have anything with opitcal i/o except a dvd player 22.45.00 # Us H1x0 owners are rather zealous at times 22.45.09 # hi.. is there going to be rockbox for h10? 22.45.11 # ze:even then reocrding with analog is very nice in H100 22.45.18 # iriver h10 22.45.32 # YouCeyE: if someone comes and starts it 22.46.20 # XavierGr: i never even used recording on my archos fm rec when i had it, except for guitar jams... i certainly wouldn't use it at home since i have a delta1010lt sound card to do 24bit/96khz with 22.47.16 # i'd use a dock with audio outs way more than recording heh 22.47.56 # Funny, I had an older flash player that used a dock and I despised it 22.48.56 # well the karma doesn't make you use the dock, but its well done enough that you want to 22.49.19 Quit petur ("brb") 22.49.43 Join mikearthur [0] (n=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 22.49.49 # the only thing that the dock has thats not built into the the unit itself is the rca plugs and ethernet port 22.50.00 # which i guess means it does make you use the dock for ethernet transfers 22.50.14 # but not for usb or for charging 22.51.48 # yeah.. karma dock was nice 22.52.36 # _ethernet_ ? 22.52.41 # what the hell's that for? 22.52.55 # you can transfer files via ethernet 22.53.00 # takes forever 22.53.01 # what's wrong with usb? 22.53.04 # but its pretty cool 22.53.11 # what protocol does it use? ftp? 22.53.14 # preglow: by way of making up for the lack of UMS, there's a java app that'll transfer via ethernet 22.53.24 # oh god, java 22.53.30 # no, thats the part that sucks, none of the transfer methods are open 22.53.37 # yeah.. bloated and buggy as hell 22.53.39 # preglow: usb has an odd number of letters. ethernet doesn't. that's why. 22.53.41 # i have to say its the single fastest and most stable java app i ever used 22.53.42 # heh 22.53.45 # :D 22.53.48 # the open source app crashed all the time 22.54.06 # was hell on linux 22.54.22 # goffa: i just use rmmlite and its rarely given me so much as minor problems 22.54.33 # would with me 22.54.44 # i'd transfer about 5 flacs then it would mysteriously lose connection 22.54.54 # there's a linux usb driver out now too 22.55.01 # cool 22.55.05 # wasn't when i used it 22.55.29 # yeah its pretty recent, and i think write support is still at your own risk but reportedly usable 22.55.57 # i never got around to upgrading my kernel to the version required to try the versions of the driver since they added write support at all 22.56.00 # heh 22.56.09 # hmm 22.56.40 # this place seling the karma player-only for $100 buy-it-now has accepted a $60 offer on it previously 22.57.20 # "Iem as described, seems to be working good, would buy from again." feedback on the sale 22.58.29 # Does the karma have a 2.5" hard disk? 22.58.47 Quit bluey- (Connection timed out) 22.59.02 # i don't remember 22.59.06 # but i think it did 22.59.33 # i think rockbox would be pretty sweet on a karma 22.59.41 # of course i'd have to get mine fixed 23.00.02 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.00.33 # linuxstb: No, it could not have been 2.5 23.00.35 # Ah no, I've just googled, and they seem to be 1.8" drives. 23.00.48 # yes hitachi 1.8 23.00.48 # ok 23.00.57 Join RoC_MM [0] (i=dragon@dsl-29-8.cofs.net) 23.01.12 # yeah 23.01.13 Quit RoC_MM (Client Quit) 23.01.16 # 7mm thickness ones 23.01.20 # with ata interfaces 23.01.25 # afaik anything ata and 7mm would fit 23.01.41 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 23.01.50 # people have dremmeled out their cases to make 9.5mm drives fit, but people complain that the case is a lot flimsier afterwards 23.02.21 # i'm not certain if anybody's tried any non-hitachi's 23.02.37 # people seem to mainly play it safe by going with those, even if ones from other vendors may work 23.03.10 # goffa: whats broken on yours? 23.03.57 # wheel 23.04.03 # oh 23.04.13 # well its still usable without that, just not as nice 23.04.17 # fell about 1 ft and landed on the corner 23.04.21 # yeah it is useable 23.04.25 # but 23.04.31 # sucks compared to my other players 23.04.34 # heh 23.04.48 # yeah lack of wheel on the karma would detract a lot from it 23.05.00 # you can get a replacement mainboard for $28 on ebay 23.05.13 # yeah 23.05.23 # okay, here's the latest screenshot... http://sharpe.bastardoperatorfromhell.org/images/invaders.png 23.05.23 # i should ebay the thing with broken wheel 23.05.32 # not that anyone asked for it, but still. 23.06.04 # cool.. you porting that sharpe? 23.06.09 # yep. 23.06.14 # sweet 23.06.17 # used to love that game 23.06.57 # that's just a screenshot of it playing the demo, right before it freezes due to some error probably with the cpu emulation... 23.07.16 # yeah 23.07.30 # still nice to see someone working on that 23.07.43 # just started working on it yesterday too... 23.08.07 # an atari emulator would be good 23.08.14 # :) 23.08.23 # i would be happy even for a .ym player 23.08.29 # ym? 23.08.35 # atari music captures 23.08.39 Quit petur ("here today, gone tomorrow") 23.08.40 # ha 23.09.27 Join webguest42 [0] (n=425d0cd3@labb.contactor.se) 23.11.09 # i just need to figure out what's wrong... 23.13.10 # if i can get this replacement karma for $65, i think its my best bet 23.13.42 Quit Siku () 23.13.49 # thats cheap enough to where i can take it for something to at least hold me over on a player from an as-yet-unreleased generation in a year or 2 23.14.00 # yeah 23.14.10 # either that or get something thats out now for dirt cheap 23.14.10 Quit midkay (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.14.17 # yeah 23.14.23 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 23.14.59 # this will be the third time i go through the cpu code... :'( 23.15.53 # this way i'll also have a spare battery and mainboard 23.16.04 # yeah 23.16.21 # even though this mainboard isn't 100%, the only thing wrong with it is the hold switch, so 23.16.24 # heh 23.16.29 # yeah 23.16.39 # i guess hold switch isn't working on mine 23.16.43 # but then... like you say 23.17.01 # the lack of a hold switch is an annoyance, but not a big deal 23.17.28 # and if it were ever to get rockboxed, it'd be easy to work around with a soft hold key combo 23.17.42 # yeah 23.17.49 # which i always thought kinda made more sense than a dedicated hardware switch anyway 23.18.04 # hardware switch is easier in pocket 23.18.09 Quit _Veseliq_ (Remote closed the connection) 23.18.20 # and for protecting the on button 23.18.39 # easier depends on the key combo and button layout 23.18.44 # on button depends on how the on button's wired 23.18.55 # i suppose holding it off is hard for firmware to do though 23.18.59 # heh 23.19.20 # at least on ipods you need to turn hold off first 23.19.31 # unless you carry around a universal plug, that also boots it :) 23.20.18 # hmm 23.21.10 # heh, it doesn't boot if the plug isn't connected to power 23.21.25 # if there's any rw storage area for config on the karma outside of the HD 23.21.34 # then a soft hold would work just as well as the switch 23.21.40 # for the on button 23.21.50 # cause on the karma, if the hold's on, and you hit the on button 23.22.00 # the screen comes up and shows a lock graphic 23.22.05 # for a few seconds and then shuts off again 23.22.12 # that's a bit silly 23.22.13 Join _Veseliq_ [0] (n=veseliq@195.85.215.210) 23.22.21 # it doesn't spin up the HD or even turn on the backlight i don't think 23.23.33 # hmm well the backlight blinks on for a split second whenever you press the on button, even when locked 23.23.47 # but yeah since firmware is in flash rom 23.24.00 # well hmm 23.24.12 # i guess it'd still be weird with a soft hold 23.24.52 # there'd have to be some way to turn on the hold while the player's in some sort of on state and also instruct it to shut off with the hold engaged 23.25.28 # and then when you actually wanted to turn it on you'd have to have some combo to override the hold status or turn it on to where it did that lock graphic sorta thing and hit the hold combo to turn it off and make it boot 23.26.05 # i suppose a special combo that means "turn on hold and shut off" and then another combo that means "turn on and turn off hold" would work ok 23.26.17 # i'm sure this is all moot :p 23.29.29 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ipa200.12.tellas.gr) 23.30.37 Quit webguest42 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.38.12 Quit tvelocity ("Ex-Chat") 23.40.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.48.25 Quit PiXEL8 (Connection timed out) 23.50.08 Join PiXEL8 [0] (n=PiXEL8@c-24-5-212-221.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 23.57.47 Quit RedBreva ("Time for Tubby ByeBye")