--- Log for 22.05.106 Server: clarke.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot- Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 27 days ago 00.01.19 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 00.04.20 Quit ender` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.07.16 Join Psilonaut [0] (n=DaPhunka@248.162-246-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 00.08.37 Quit Ribs ("Leaving") 00.10.03 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m232.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 00.20.08 # it's almost 27'C... 00.22.07 Quit ACK54W ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 00.22.12 Join sirk [0] (n=411a6169@labb.contactor.se) 00.22.18 # ello 00.22.59 # ello ello 00.23.41 # hi... 00.23.51 # I wanna try rockbox but im not sure where to get the bootloader 00.24.27 # i downloaded the daily build for my player, but i didnt notice an executable file to install from in the folder 00.24.30 Quit Redbreva_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.24.42 # what player do you have? 00.24.56 # i have a 5g ipode video 00.25.01 # ipod* 00.25.15 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation 00.25.25 # cool, thank you 00.25.30 # you're welcome. 00.26.03 Join ender` [0] (n=ender@84.52.165.220) 00.26.30 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-122-11.VIC.netspace.net.au) 00.28.35 # Hi, can someone plz tell me how to install the album art plugin on my ipod video? I just got rockbox.. 00.28.58 # it's not a plugin, you have to build the source with the patch and then update it on your ipod. 00.29.50 # ok, then how do I build the source? forgive me im noob 00.30.31 Quit freqmod (Remote closed the connection) 00.30.42 # are you in windows or linux? 00.30.58 # windows 00.31.01 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinInstallWithScreenShots 00.31.08 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WorkingWithPatches 00.31.21 # ty 00.31.29 # you're welcome. 00.36.30 # how does album art work anyway 00.36.33 # id3 tag? 00.36.49 # if i remember correctly, a certain image in the directory. 00.37.13 # it may have changed though, i don't use album art... 00.37.32 Join pjo [0] (n=pjo@i58-94-247-217.s02.a022.ap.plala.or.jp) 00.37.40 # Good Morning 00.37.56 # so if i have blah.jpg stored in /music/band/album, it will display for each track? 00.38.36 # probably, but like i said, i don't really know about album art. 00.39.28 # kk 00.39.39 # it's how it used to work, i think. 00.39.50 # german_snail: I believe tha patch looks for cover.bmp 00.39.55 # the 00.40.41 # How do I find this guy who did this patch in the forum. I searched his nick but could not find. http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=96284#96284 00.41.09 # cool 00.41.12 Quit Moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.41.48 Join TCK [0] (i=TCK@81-178-193-112.dsl.pipex.com) 00.44.58 # wow, i really can't figure out what's wrong with the cpu emulator... 00.44.59 # is there a gameboy emulation program for rockbox? 00.45.04 # rockboy 00.45.08 # oo 00.45.48 # can you direct me to the page for acquiring it? 00.46.06 # Pls advise the method to synch a patch to Daily build 00.46.29 # RockBoy you already have it You need roms 00.46.33 # sirk: it's a plugin, you should be able to execute a rom 00.46.34 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m232.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 00.46.36 # oooo 00.46.53 # pjo: what patch? 00.46.57 # do roms in the .gb format work? 00.47.02 # http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=96284#96284 00.47.04 # let me check. 00.47.32 # yes, gb, and gbc. 00.47.41 # I found that this patch is only synched with 20060424 and it must bve synched with the latest Daily 00.47.48 # okay awesome 00.48.06 # and do i just placew them in the directory or in a specific folder 00.48.27 # just like executing an audio file, just select it in the file browser 00.48.41 # pjo: isn't that for ipodlinux? 00.49.09 # maybe wrong link 00.49.17 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/2954 00.49.24 # this is the correct one ! 00.49.39 # so what do you want to do with it again? 00.50.01 Join webguest90 [0] (n=449e40c2@labb.contactor.se) 00.50.10 # I would like to know a way to synch this patch to the latest daily 00.50.49 # Hi, can I request 2 minor yet essential characters to be added to the rockbox keyboard in the text editor, the colon and the semi-colon 00.50.49 # have you tried applying the patch to the rockbox source? 00.51.12 # unless I'm blind and can't find it 00.51.27 # yes patch displays error and request to input File to Patch 00.51.44 # pjo: okay, what command are you using to patch it? 00.52.09 # or, what are you typing? 00.52.28 # patch -p0 or -p1 or -p2 < xxxxx.diff in the directory of rockbox where all the RB sources and diff are located 00.52.38 # does anybody speak Esperanto in here? 00.52.54 # are you typing all of that, or certain parts? 00.53.08 # except or part 00.53.11 # i'm stuck on the word "crossfeed". there isn,t even a word in my native language for that i think 00.53.36 # why not just do, "cross feed" ? :) 00.54.13 # because its supposed to be translated XD 00.54.28 # heheh... 00.55.12 # pjo: have you tried, "patch -p0 < scroll-margins_20060424.patch" i'm assuming that's what the patch is saved as, if not, change it... 00.55.31 Quit kingspawn ("Reconnecting") 00.55.46 # and you think i can patch the latest Daily ? 00.55.53 # i've no idea. 00.56.27 # I will try it but how do I synch a patch to the current daily ? 00.56.40 Join kingspawn [0] (n=anakron@204.80-203-21.nextgentel.com) 00.56.52 # if it doesn't patch, you'll have to look at the patch file and manually edit the source. 00.57.45 Quit jborn__ ("open.neurostechnology.com") 00.57.47 # ok 00.58.01 # and if that doesn't work, i don't know what to tell you. 00.58.11 # thanks 00.58.18 # Are there any other esperantist rockbox users? 00.58.35 # not to my knowledge. 00.58.44 # ok 00.58.45 # lol 00.58.54 # * Moos point to markun direction :P 00.59.12 # Jes, mi :) 00.59.19 # bonege! 00.59.26 # well, i stand corrected. 00.59.29 # mi estas tradukanta rockbox al esperanton 00.59.30 # nun 00.59.39 # Nice! 00.59.41 # :P 00.59.44 # I've been thinking about doing that 00.59.50 # But please english in here :) 00.59.55 # okay okay 00.59.57 # english lol 01.00.04 # i started today 01.00.17 # do you think "crossfeed" is translatable? 01.01.11 # I really don't know. You could try in #esperanto. 01.01.22 # yeah 01.01.24 # crossfeed is hard to translate in any language imho 01.01.25 # which i've been doiing 01.01.26 # lol 01.01.33 # yeah, crossfeed doesnt exist in french 01.01.39 # so i'll let it as crossfeed 01.01.45 # yep 01.02.09 # begin by the strings you can translate first, no? :) 01.02.22 # lol, i do them all one after the other 01.02.26 # Moos: someone told me to go to http://www.arabeyes.org/ for people possibly interested in making an arabic translation 01.02.27 # but got stuck at crossgeed 01.02.30 # crossfeed* 01.02.43 # Aghaster: just skip it for now 01.02.46 # k 01.02.55 # markun: heh, good to know, let me give it a go 01.03.02 # i got a question, will rockbox properly display esperanto characters? 01.03.45 # Aghaster: yes, as long as the font supports it. The language files need to be stored in UTF-8. 01.03.56 # good, i'm using UTF-8 01.04.17 # Aghaster:eeer...where are you from? What's this esperanto language? (sorry, never heard that before) 01.04.43 # Esperanto is a conlang, its not a national language 01.04.45 # boo! :) 01.05.00 # its been invented back in 1887 by ludovic zamenhof, in order to be used as an international language 01.05.03 # Genre9mp3: http://www.esperanto.net/ 01.05.10 Join JdGordon [0] (i=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 01.05.11 # up to date, its the most spoken conlang in the world 01.05.23 # Oh really? Is this language popular? 01.05.32 # utopia unfortunatly 01.05.33 # about 2 million speakers 01.05.36 # worldwide 01.06.20 # its very easy to learn, and its fun 01.06.26 # esperantists are fun people :P 01.06.45 # rockboxians also :) 01.06.55 # hehe 01.06.59 # :D 01.07.08 # esperantists rockboxians even more ;) 01.07.09 # Where do you learned to speak that language? 01.07.22 # on the internet, and then i became member of a club 01.07.31 # where i go at each month, to speak and have fun 01.07.56 # Itis not tought somewhere, right? 01.08.00 # Genre9mp3: I just did some tutorials on the internet. I also speak to some esperantists in my city from time to time. 01.08.02 # www.kurso.com.br <- here's free software 01.08.02 # I mean, besides the net 01.08.12 # well, sometimes in universities they offer esperanto classes 01.08.22 # or www.lernu.net 01.08.26 # or maybe a local esperanto group offers it 01.08.29 Quit webguest90 ("CGI:IRC") 01.08.36 # but learning on the internet is easy 01.08.42 # But maybe this was enough e-o propapganda for today :) 01.08.43 # lots of available resources 01.08.47 # haha 01.08.53 # he asked first XD 01.09.16 # Yes...I was curious... 01.09.20 # hehe 01.09.26 # But I'm very happy that you started the translation, I'll use it full time and try to keep it updated. 01.09.41 # markun, maybe we could work at it together? 01.09.59 # markun: BTW, is there a working sim for the Gigabeat, yet? 01.10.48 # Yes, it was working. I need to commit a patch to make it compile again (missing button defines for some plugins) 01.11.37 # ok 01.12.01 # aww... i cracked a cd... 01.12.02 # heh. love it. Unpack rockbox.zip onto my player in windows. takes about two minutes. unpack it on linux using kde's drag and drop, and it takes 10 seconds, even WITH sync turned on. 01.13.02 # as far as patching that patch , it worked 01.13.43 # looks like we'll have an Esperanto translation, hehe 01.13.49 # :D 01.14.19 # Good night guys 01.14.45 # oyasumi Markun 01.14.51 # bonan nokton 01.15.15 # gdnt 01.15.21 # goodnight 01.15.25 # bonan al vi ankaux :) 01.16.00 # please....don't play with my curiosity! :) 01.16.20 # :P 01.17.48 # do i want to work on the space invaders emulator anymore today... ? 01.18.04 # of course u do! 01.18.41 # meh... 01.19.00 # * Genre9mp3 viziti esperanto pago 01.19.04 # :-P 01.19.43 # Can I ask Q on compiling RockBox ? 01.20.46 # don't ask to ask 01.21.21 # ok 01.21.50 # in the tut, it says as follows 01.21.52 # 2. Create a build directory 01.21.52 # Create a build directory, preferably in the same directory as the firmware/ and apps/ directories. This is where all generated files will be written. 01.21.58 Part ashridah ("Leaving") 01.22.29 # does this mean to create build dir in those directories ? 01.23.22 Quit Moos ("Glory to Rockbox !!!") 01.25.16 Join Noah0504 [0] (n=noah@66.141.90.76) 01.25.47 # Hey all. 01.30.08 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m232.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 01.33.11 # pjo: No, in the same directory which contains both firmware/ and apps/ 01.38.33 Join needhelpwiththem [0] (n=44c18f02@labb.contactor.se) 01.38.36 # oh so simply rewriting it, mkdir build in rockbox source code directory 01.38.41 # hey guys i need some help 01.38.45 Quit Poka64 ("back to sleep") 01.38.53 # i am trying to get iPod Green5g theme on my ipod 01.38.57 # ok thanks 01.39.02 # and i am having alot of difficulty 01.39.10 # can anyone send me a file or help me 01.39.15 # again thats 01.39.16 # iPod Green5g 01.39.34 # BTW after applying patches, compiling the source is required correct ? 01.39.40 # i dont really want to get into modding patches and stuff cause i dont have that much familiarty with it 01.39.49 # cause i dont know how to do it 01.39.54 # and need it quick 01.40.27 # does anyone have a the files already and would like to email them to me? 01.40.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.41.01 # please 01.41.02 # nnedle: I am chating with dpassen 01.41.25 # pjo: Yes 01.41.57 # needhelpwiththem: If you don't want to apply patches yourself, you'll need to look in the forums to see if someone has posted a version of Rockbox with the required patches for your ipod, or wait until those patches (or equivalent functionality) are in the official Rockbox builds. 01.41.59 # dpassen: I have created build directory, 01.42.18 Quit ender` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.43.12 # SO DO YOU KNOW OF ANY SUCH PRE CONFIGURED BUILDS? 01.43.15 # sorry 01.43.24 # accidentally pressed caps 01.43.31 # $ ../tools/configure I tried this but I think I need to place files 01.44.04 # so can anyone help 01.44.15 # i had typo now it is making 01.44.23 # ? 01.45.26 # needle: did you search the RB forum on 5G ? 01.46.26 # Is there any way to copy the screen output from CygWin window ? 01.47.20 # I just installed Rockbox on my iPod Video about an hour ago. Talk about deliciousness. 01.47.21 # haha 01.47.41 # i need help 01.47.54 # im trying to get the iPod Green5g theme on my ipod video 01.47.59 # and need help 01.48.32 # where would this be posted 01.48.39 # needhelpwiththem: Sorry, I can't help. Did you try looking through the documentation on the Rockbox website? 01.49.21 # yeah 01.49.22 # nothin 01.49.34 # Hmm, sorry I can't help. I'm new to Rockbox. 01.50.42 # pjo: I think you click on the icon in the top-left corner of the cygwin window, which brings up a menu with "mark" and "copy" options. 01.50.43 # needhelpwiththem, have patience.. 01.50.56 # use the non-album-art version if you're not up to patching. 01.51.34 # linuxsub: thanks 01.51.45 # and make generated these errors: 01.51.46 # CC drivers/lcd-16bit.c 01.51.46 # drivers/lcd-16bit.c: In function 'lcd_puts_style_offset': 01.51.46 DBUG Enqueued KICK pjo 01.51.46 # drivers/lcd-16bit.c:802: error: 'xmargin' undeclared (first use in this function 01.51.46 # ) 01.51.47 *** Alert Mode level 1 01.51.47 # drivers/lcd-16bit.c:802: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only onc 01.51.48 *** Alert Mode level 2 01.51.48 # e 01.51.50 # drivers/lcd-16bit.c:802: error: for each function it appears in.) 01.51.52 # make[1]: *** [/home/Asao/rockbox/build/firmware/drivers/lcd-16bit.o] Error 1 01.51.54 # make: *** [all] Error 2 01.52.40 # does this look very bad, hopeless ? 02.01.49 *** Alert Mode OFF 02.02.10 Join ts-x [0] (n=0cad6dbb@labb.contactor.se) 02.03.40 Join DrMoos [0] (i=DrMoos@m232.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 02.04.19 Quit Moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.04.22 Quit needhelpwiththem ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.05.18 Quit DrMoos (Client Quit) 02.06.15 Quit Kohlrabi ("Fast alle Menschen sind Regenwürmer") 02.06.33 Quit german_snail () 02.07.40 Join webguest77 [0] (n=425d0cd3@labb.contactor.se) 02.13.17 Quit Noah0504 (Nick collision from services.) 02.17.23 Join carini [0] (n=chatzill@pool-71-113-120-124.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 02.18.26 # I found this: http://www.cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/setup-maxmem.html 02.18.51 # but I cannot find the reg key 02.18.59 Quit goffa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.20.15 Quit anathema (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.20.43 # I found HLM\software\Cygnus Solutions\Cygwin but no heap_chunk_in_mb 02.21.55 Join german_snail [0] (n=s@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za) 02.22.44 Quit carini ("Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.3/2006042618]") 02.23.05 Join carini [0] (n=chatzill@pool-71-113-120-124.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 02.23.31 # I realized that I have to create the key 02.24.54 # but setting Cygwin Max memory to 1024 did not solve the make error 02.25.16 Quit carini (Client Quit) 02.25.34 Join carini [0] (n=chatzill@pool-71-113-120-124.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 02.25.45 Quit carini (Client Quit) 02.28.50 Join carini [0] (n=chatzill@pool-71-113-120-124.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 02.29.08 Quit webguest77 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.29.09 Quit dpassen1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.33.33 Quit carini (Client Quit) 02.33.52 Join carini [0] (n=chatzill@pool-71-113-120-124.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) 02.34.03 Quit carini (Client Quit) 02.40.28 Join Falco98 [0] (n=18586afa@labb.contactor.se) 02.41.04 # amiconn: u around? 02.41.59 # sadly, it doesn't seem so... 02.42.05 # aw. 02.42.28 # just wanted to tell him i'd fixed that bug in my patch which he pointed out after i split a few days ago 02.42.40 # ooh 02.42.45 # leave him a memo! 02.42.45 # so like, if i wanna customize my rockbox, i gotta learn C? 02.43.03 # german_snail: not if you just want to change the look of it, eg, with themes and wpses 02.44.08 # man i just fiddled now... the functionality is awesome, so yeah, i just wanna change the look 02.44.13 # can't find it in the docs 02.44.48 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS 02.44.58 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToWPSMaking 02.45.02 # :) 02.45.21 # hah 02.45.26 # i'd found it already :p 02.46.01 # which is the best CD ripper to work with RockBox ? 02.46.39 # eac 02.47.13 # you mean Exact Audio Copy ? 02.47.19 # yes 02.47.21 # grip? :) 02.47.33 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ipa200.12.tellas.gr) 02.47.55 # i get the impressoin that there's no linux app to view themes; would anyone be willing to screenshot a nano theme for me so i can publish it? 02.48.30 # ???? 02.48.41 # flamingcow: you can make a screenskot in rockbox 02.48.46 # oh! 02.48.49 # that makes it easy :-P 02.49.47 # what do you mean with 'view themes'? 02.50.14 # well, there's a windows theme designed that lets you screenshot, right? 02.50.45 # that doesn't make any sense to me 02.51.43 # PaulJam: glad to see another EAC fan 02.52.01 # I'm rather anal about ripping my CDs only in EAC / secure with a Plextor drive.. :-P 02.52.21 # i believe libparanoia is pretty good too 02.52.57 # what if... 02.53.16 # i wrote an implementation of malloc for plugins, that would use the plugin buffer? :D 02.53.30 # someone would probably look at you very strangely 02.53.37 # now trying to rip Cd with EAC but EAC does not recognize the DVd drive correctly 02.54.15 # are you trying to rip an audio dvd? 02.54.18 Quit YouCeyE ("Leaving") 02.54.18 # anything else than strange looks? 02.54.24 Join dpassen1 [0] (n=dpassen1@resnet-236-163.resnet.UMBC.EDU) 02.54.28 # pjo: when i put in my DVD burner it did that, it was fixed by upgrading to the latest build of EAC 02.54.31 # probably not much more, no 02.54.31 # it si audio CD 02.54.38 Join YouCeyE [0] (n=YouCeyE@unaffiliated/youceye) 02.54.53 # though i've also found EAC (as of 2 months ago) doesn't recognize the new sony DVD burners... 02.55.09 # i wonder if it'd be any use for plugins... 02.55.18 # flamingcow: some people only have one optical drive, since DVD burners pretty much do everything 02.55.47 # i just downloaded it 02.56.03 # what DVD drive do you have? 02.56.20 # it is wait 02.57.13 # HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163A 02.57.32 # hmm 02.57.37 # so what brand is that? 02.57.44 # (do you have any other optical drives to try?) 02.58.05 # not on this machine, this is the only one 02.58.23 # falco98: yes, i am actually aware of that :-P 02.58.26 # Falco98! how are you :P? 02.58.30 # brand is Hitachi-Samsong or maybe other Korean 02.58.38 # generally CD-R's (name brand ones even) are the best for secure-mode ripping 02.58.59 # advise any other ripper 02.59.50 # CDex 03.00.01 # i like cdex 03.00.44 # Aghaster: not bad, you? 03.00.47 # Falco, i finally got a pdf of 2600 so you can read the article 03.00.53 # haha sweet 03.00.54 # link? 03.01.14 # sec 03.01.33 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 03.01.33 # * Aghaster uploads to personal server 03.01.35 # pjo: i've never tried CDex (or at least not recently), and it's unclear whether it does bit-perfect rips like EAC can, but if you're not that anal about it, there are probably alot of rippers that work perfectly well for an average user 03.02.02 # but always use something stand-alone, esp. something that works with oggenc or flac O:-) 03.03.50 # CDex cannot recognize it too, so now I am running WMP11 03.04.45 # ewww 03.04.48 # at least use winamp or something 03.04.56 # i avoid WMP and iTunes like the fucking plague 03.05.08 # cdex is a great ripper 03.05.11 # (wmp11 will force you to use WMA, won't it?) 03.05.27 # that is what I am checking now, WMA 03.05.50 # at LEAST use something which lets you use LAME mp3, if not Vorbis and FLAC 03.06.15 # can Winamp use FLAC ? 03.06.28 # ackh 03.06.35 # why would u use winamp 03.06.41 # pjo: there is a plugin for winamp 03.06.45 # for FLAC 03.06.46 # ok 03.07.15 # why not xmms? 03.07.21 # xmms is great. 03.07.35 # what's wrong with winamp? at least it's not WMP or iTunes 03.08.13 # mp3 can be chosen with WMP 11 03.08.24 # ah 03.08.34 # winamp isn't free as in freedom 03.08.39 # afaik 03.08.41 # but can you choose an external encoder? 03.08.54 # well i'd still do an absolute minimum of ripping in WMP until you can find a "real" ripper that supports your drive 03.09.03 # Aghaster: it's free enough for me 03.09.13 # the only pay functions are stuff that is done better by external shit anyway 03.09.14 # well, i do not know much about it. 03.09.17 # (ripping, burning) 03.09.18 # does it run on linux? 03.09.24 # didnt AOL pay taht waste guy millions to buy winamp 03.09.29 # like megamillions 03.09.32 # no.. does xmms run on windows? O:-) 03.09.51 # puss: probably, but it hasn't gotten any worse since that happened 03.10.13 # :P 03.10.19 # a little bit of bloat, but nothing you can't turn off or exclude, and nothing as objectionable as half the "features" in WMP, realplayer, or other such things 03.10.21 # no, doesnt run on windows... 03.10.27 # that's a detail 03.10.27 # lol 03.10.38 # who runs windows anyway? pfff ;) 03.10.49 # * Falco98 checks filesoup to see if sopranos is up yet... 03.10.51 # haha 03.11.06 # not me for long, as i've been running it for a few weeks now with no taskbar or desktop 03.11.15 # BTW does anybody use MoodLogic ? 03.11.32 # Falco98: here's the link for 2600: www.planetcpp.info/2600.The.Hacker.Quarterly.23.1.pdf 03.12.12 # sweet thanks.. have a page # i can jump to by any chance? 03.13.26 # yes, minute 03.13.30 # i think its around page 50 03.13.48 # n/m, it's 46 03.13.49 # :) 03.13.55 # yeah 03.13.58 # i was about to say it 03.13.59 # lol 03.14.11 # 2 pages and half article. 03.14.14 # have fun :) 03.14.39 # * Falco98 reads "filesharing with tinyurl.com" first :-P 03.15.04 # brb... 03.15.47 # sharpe: A malloc for plugins has been talked about before, and I think it would be accepted - to help with porting apps to Rockbox. But I think Bagder has said that he has a good implementation that could be used. 03.16.28 # hehe, i think you'll end up subscribing to 2600, Falco98! 03.16.34 # :'( 03.17.06 # well, won't hurt to make one, would it? 03.17.58 # * Aghaster says its quite long to translate about 600 strings from english to esperanto XD 03.18.57 # Hey, my ipod's acting strange. If i let it on pause, after like 10 minutes it'll reboot 03.19.04 # is it normal? 03.19.14 # does it reboot or shut down? 03.19.24 # reboot 03.19.35 # does that happen when you touch it? :) 03.19.37 # so when it reboots, it plays the song it was paused on 03.19.37 # Do you have it plugged in? 03.19.47 # yes, its standing on my ipod dock 03.20.52 # It will idle power-off after 10 minutes (you can change that setting). But because it is being charged, it will immediately turn back on. I think there's a bug report in the patch tracker about it - Rockbox shouldn't idle-off when being charged on the ipod. 03.21.30 # * Falco98 reaches out and grabs a mosquito out of mid-air 03.21.36 # linuxstb: so, do you think i should even try to make an implementation of malloc for plugins? 03.22.15 # It's probably worth talking to Bagder before spending too much time on it. I don't know how good the implementation he has got is, or how much work it would need to adapt it to Rockbox. 03.22.46 # well, if you think about it, using the plugin buffer wouldn't be too hard... 03.23.34 # But it's non-trivial if you implement the whole family of malloc, realloc, calloc and free. 03.23.36 # k 03.23.43 # yep... 03.26.26 # when I plug my ipod into the wallcharger, its just reboots over and over again 03.26.33 # is this a known bug 03.26.51 # yes, hold down menu when you put the cable in, or boot apple os first 03.27.08 # ok cool then its not just me 03.27.13 # thanks 03.28.45 # ripping cd with winamp, exit by erro, cannot write to the destination, which the drive has huge unused space, Windows XP compressed drive 03.29.50 # this is FLAC default 03.30.02 # and the first song is huge 03.31.59 # well, i think i'll just plan out the whole, plugin-oriented malloc/realloc/calloc/free functions... on paper, of all things! 03.32.20 Quit Psilonaut (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.33.04 # hmm 03.33.19 # flac makes huge files 03.33.24 # * Falco98 has problems with the author's assertion that "most DVD players are designed not to play CD-Rs" 03.33.32 # pussfeller: FLAC is lossless 03.33.40 # winamp displays error cannot write to, but the file was generated, could not rip the next track 03.33.45 # yeah thats why its got a bigger file size 03.34.15 # its alot smaller than a wav, but much bigger than an mp3 ripped at 193 03.34.19 # err 192 03.34.37 # so i will go back to mp3 03.34.48 # but the sound quality is much better 03.34.52 # thats the trade off 03.35.42 # flac is about 2x compression usually 03.35.52 # i didnt use to be able to tell the difference between low bitrate mp3 and higher ones, but now I can 03.36.04 # now that I have decent speakers :) 03.36.24 # the issue here for me that I cannot rip with FLAC automaticall all the tracks, I have to quit and restart Winamp and rip one track 03.36.56 # ussualy, pjo, if you are having troubles with rippers, you dont have the encoding settings just right 03.37.03 # thats my experience 03.37.19 # encoding set is default 03.37.56 # oo http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/electronic/7d5e/ 03.38.00 # i totally forgot about neuros 03.38.01 # i'm liucky, kaudiocreator is sinchy to use :) 03.38.06 # didn't know those ones were out yet 03.38.12 # too bad about battery life though 03.39.37 # maybe the file name is too long 03.39.51 # these are classical music 03.41.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.44.11 # pjo: just use ogg 03.44.22 # exploit the true beauty of rockbox :) 03.45.15 # ogg is better than FLAC in audio quality ? 03.45.54 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.46.13 # No, technically Ogg Vorbis is lossy and FLAC is lossless. Lossy can approximate but never be as perfect as Lossless. 03.47.00 # i changed the output file name to be shorter and now FLAc ripping is working 03.47.17 # dpassen: I thought so 03.52.19 Join Jd|uni [0] (n=82c20d69@labb.contactor.se) 03.52.35 Join ScootScat [0] (n=sjohnson@71-80-131-108.dhcp.hspr.ca.charter.com) 03.53.25 # hey all 03.53.40 # pjo: use lossless if you must, but you're using up a LOT of unnecessary space if it's only for listening on your DAP 03.53.42 # hey JD 03.54.04 # * sharpe is bored. 03.54.21 # Jd|uni: got a question for you.. not even about that patch O:-) 03.54.57 # Falcon: i am aware of that 03.55.17 # pjon: k, just wanted to make sure 03.55.43 # falco: shoot 03.55.54 # have you guys experinced make errors regarding LCD driver ? 03.56.44 # can you think of any way to run a quick test in RB to tell if the "upcoming" file is the real "next" file (i.e. is in the same folder, and is lexigraphically succeeding..)? 03.57.02 # as in, the next track in an album in well-named files... 03.57.20 # well.. checking if its the same folder is easy... we've done that already 03.57.37 # checking if its actually next might be more complecated... 03.57.57 # but i want to compare the "next up file" to "currently playing" 03.58.05 # you could open the folder and read through each file and check if its the next file.. (assuming the file list is in order..) 03.58.25 # u can grab the next file easily with the playulist.h api's 03.58.36 # Falco98: have you read the article? 03.58.42 # Aghaster: yup 03.58.45 # hehe 03.58.59 # quite an interesting article. it made me think 03.59.12 # yeah. 03.59.38 # a bit panicky, but meh 03.59.49 # i agree strongly with the general criticism of DRM 03.59.53 # :) 04.00.07 # the problem is that people do not see they gradually loose rights 04.00.16 Quit dpro (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.00.24 # yeah 04.00.39 # i think i'm done for today, possibly a few days after today. 04.01.01 # but now that you got the pdf, there are a bunch of other articles i'm sure you'll be interested in 04.01.03 # :P 04.01.11 # 2600 is a great magazine. 04.01.11 # goodnight everyone. 04.01.17 # good night sharpe 04.01.18 # yeah 04.02.04 # fark this... cbf staying for this prac :D 04.02.07 # im giong home 04.02.12 # ttyl.. 04.02.29 # well.. back in 30min or something 04.02.33 Quit Jd|uni ("CGI:IRC") 04.05.51 Quit tvelocity ("Ex-Chat") 04.08.57 Quit Falco98 ("CGI:IRC") 04.09.57 # hah my isp uses giganews 04.11.08 Join PaulJam_ [0] (i=Paul@vpn-3042.gwdg.de) 04.13.43 Quit Daishi (Remote closed the connection) 04.17.55 Quit TeaSea ("Leaving") 04.27.22 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.29.47 # * JdGordon r back 04.31.48 Join PaulJam__ [0] (i=Paul@vpn-3042.gwdg.de) 04.36.39 # sayonara 04.36.45 Quit pjo (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- State of the art IRC") 04.49.17 Quit PaulJam_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.52.17 Quit ts-x ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 04.58.10 Join TeaSea [0] (n=Thunderc@lonsdale.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 04.59.22 Join Sinbios [0] (n=Sinbios@Kingston-HSE-ppp3561635.sympatico.ca) 05.01.28 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB4D076.ipt.aol.com) 05.03.59 Join infamis [0] (n=40518b28@labb.contactor.se) 05.04.11 # moos? 05.04.51 # a.p.b. out on moos... 05.06.15 Quit TeaSea ("Leaving") 05.07.39 Quit infamis (Client Quit) 05.12.35 Join lostnihilist [0] (n=james@c-67-175-244-14.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 05.17.38 Quit Rob2222_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.18.50 Join yobesoom [0] (n=mooseboy@c-67-171-207-167.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 05.20.23 Quit pussfeller ("Leaving") 05.22.38 Join treq [0] (n=tiago@rescomp-05-50700.Stanford.EDU) 05.22.46 # hi 05.23.35 Join Apostle^ [0] (n=11@c-24-3-195-42.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 05.23.51 # on ipod nano how do you get back to the area where you see the currently playing song from a seperate menu? 05.24.05 # "Now Playing" on the main menu 05.24.10 # err 05.24.17 # sorry, I wasn't in the Rockbox mindset there 05.24.40 # i don't seem to see it... 05.24.51 # sorry, I was talking Apple OS. 05.24.56 # on the page with "browse plugins" ? 05.25.01 # oh okay.. 05.25.05 # try PLAY from there 05.25.16 # it's kind of hard to get all the keys down 05.25.27 # play 05.25.33 # nope. 05.25.56 # umm... can you hit MENU several times and get there? 05.26.06 # seems to work some times ... 05.26.07 # you mean when you're on any menu to go back to the current playing song? 05.26.32 # yes 05.26.39 # with volume control etc. 05.27.00 # at least for me, if I'm not on a menu where play/pause is a used key 05.27.10 # then pressing play/pause jumps to now playing 05.27.13 # also, have their been any ipod nano updates, i converted rockbox a few months ago and have not updated since 05.27.20 # (not holding, just pressing) 05.27.51 # rockbox updates? 05.27.54 # okay, i think i got that down 05.28.03 # Apostle^: the updates never stop. (with the exception of this freeze we're currently in, that is :)) 05.28.05 # yea, like updates to functionality etc. 05.28.22 # just keep installing the daily builds 05.28.23 # if your build is a few months old, then it's out of dayte. 05.28.23 # how do i compare my rockbox ver to the current one for ipod nano? 05.28.26 # date, even 05.28.44 # and rockbox is great btw ;-) 05.29.00 # common knowledge 05.29.08 # hehe 05.29.11 # indeed sir 05.29.18 # i 05.29.35 # i'm on linux so the drap+drop of music instead of having to use gtkpod is amazingly time saving 05.29.58 # do you use amarok? 05.30.06 # yea i do 05.30.28 # I'm starting to code an amarok plugin for rockbox 05.30.36 # really, what would it do? 05.30.37 # or, read it the other way around 05.30.47 # i'd be glad to help test 05.30.50 # media device 05.31.08 # trying to add a "rockbox device" 05.31.13 # I see 05.31.21 # but i wonder why since you can just drag+drop rockbox 05.31.24 # music 05.31.39 # that works if you have a few files 05.31.57 # i have a nano so like 10 or so albums anyway 05.32.02 # but i love it ;-) 05.32.17 # I want to use amarok to manage my playlists for rockbox 05.32.21 # all my tool albums ;-P 05.32.30 # ahh, i usually don't make playlists 05.32.41 Quit yobesoom_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.32.43 # and an organized collection 05.32.45 # I should make one for all my favorite songs though 05.33.18 # say, does anyone know how I get to the page with themes for ipod nano? 05.33.37 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpodNano 05.33.45 # thank you sir 05.34.25 Join Falco98 [0] (n=18586afa@labb.contactor.se) 05.34.48 # JdGordon: still around? 05.36.33 Join enzyme [0] (n=hdgdf@d207-81-78-2.bchsia.telus.net) 05.36.48 # any one know anything about the sony nw-hd1 05.36.49 # when installing a rockbox update, do i just replace all the files in the rockbox with the files in the .zip ? 05.37.07 # Apostle^: yeah, basically 05.37.20 # Falco98, thank you 05.37.49 # just be prepared for it to wipe out your current settings, unless you've saved them as a .cfg file 05.38.20 # and if you've modified any WPS files (without creating a whole new file, which is the way it should be done), it'll wipe that out too 05.38.31 # but the settings thing is easy to fix 05.39.01 # did the skipping of mp3 get fixed with ipod 5g 05.39.15 # Falco98, settings, such as volume.. and equalizer? 05.39.22 # i'm prepared to lose those. 05.40.20 # yeah.. and crossfade settings, which WPS you have selected, fonts, etc, etc 05.40.48 # though if you save a .cfg file in "manage settings", it'll reload automatically (from my experience) 05.41.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.41.10 # i see 05.41.16 # i downloaded a few new themes also 05.41.21 # where do they go persay ? 05.42.00 # that's a tiny bit more complicated than "where".. usually a theme will be a .cfg file, maybe a font, and a .wps (with corresponding folder) 05.42.19 # the .cfg file goes.. i guess in the "themes" folder, whereas the .wps file and its folder go in the "wps" folder 05.42.26 # i see okay 05.42.34 # so hopefully simple i guess 05.43.10 # can i install a theme for the browsing menu? i mean, not just a theme for the jukebox 05.43.25 # when i browse the menu, i'd like to have a more nice looking interface 05.43.28 # can it be done? 05.46.27 # this theme has 3 folders, fonts themes wps 05.48.55 # How can i convert my .lang file to a .lng file? 05.49.03 # i'd like to try what i've translated so far 05.49.45 # aghaster: a theme will sometimes change the overall font, which can rather dramatically change the menus etc.. but AFAIK there's nothing that changes them functionally 05.50.00 # k 05.50.36 # (i should have said "rather dramatically change the LOOK OF the menus etc...", for clarification) 05.51.18 # ok, so i cannot modify menus. only fonts? 05.51.56 # as far as i know ;-) 05.52.08 # any one know anything about the sony nw-hd1 05.52.10 # i mean, you CAN modify menus.. if you feel like completely re-coding them 05.52.29 # lol 05.52.40 # yeah, well, i meant without recoding the whole app ;) 05.52.45 # enzyme: you might try asking in the general discussion forum, it seems noone's around who might know 05.53.32 # Aghaster: honestly you could switch around what things go where in the menus without too much difficulty as long as you're careful.. but i wouldn't go so far as describing that as "fundamental functional change" 05.53.58 # okay 05.54.37 Quit PaulJam__ (".") 05.57.03 # does anybody know how do i convert from .lang to .lng ? 05.57.40 # * Falco98 has no idea what the syntax or purpose of a .lng file is.... 05.57.52 # * Apostle^ guesses for a different language 05.57.57 # IE: espanol 05.57.59 # you could always open two equivalent ones up in text-editors and see what they offer 05.58.11 # s/what they offer/how they compare 05.58.33 # nvm, i think i found out 05.58.38 # (s/compare/compare//) 05.58.40 # the link for the genlang script was broken 05.58.41 # cool 05.58.44 # bedtime for me 05.58.46 # but google found out. 05.58.50 # good night falco 05.58.50 # night 05.58.55 # night, good luck 05.58.58 Quit Falco98 ("CGI:IRC") 06.02.49 Quit Apostle^ ("Leaving") 06.07.30 # anybody around? 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08.57.04 # for recording? 08.59.13 # The recording settings menu is voiced. The recording screen is not. 09.02.14 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.02.25 # * midkay does the green-cvs-table cheer 09.02.41 # thanks guys. is voice on the recording screen possible? (pls note I'm NOT asking for it...just trying to see if it might happen in future...some blind users are asking about it) 09.04.02 Join petur [0] (n=d4efd6a6@labb.contactor.se) 09.04.42 # Yes it is possible. Voice will interrupt montoring though. 09.05.10 Join einhirn [0] (i=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.05.16 # amiconn: that's awesome. thanks. 09.05.22 # This applies at least to all coldfire based targets (i.e. iriver h1x0, h300, and iaudio x5) 09.05.57 Quit RoC_MM ("Leaving") 09.06.02 # * midkay sighs 09.06.14 Join muesli|delhi [0] (n=muesli_t@125.23.27.62) 09.07.06 # amiconn, since you're the only dev around, and i'm not sure the 3.0 schedule, if you were up to it i wanted to suggest making the "committing tagcache" message a splash instead of the centered text since it's cut off on both sides on the 112x64 LCDs.. but i need to go to bed + it looks like more than a quick adjustment 09.07.54 # how would a splash change that? 09.07.58 # does splashes wrap the message? 09.08.05 # preglow, yes, they do 09.08.20 # nice 09.08.25 # 'tis :) 09.08.39 # i'll try to fix my resampler bug today 09.08.56 # preglow, do you know the 3.0 date? 09.08.56 # * amiconn sighs too 09.09.07 # midkay: no, but i'd guess 29th 09.09.10 # There's a number of things I need to fix. 09.09.26 # 29th seems more and more likely.. 09.09.52 # there's no reason to think of any other date, if you ask me 09.09.53 Join ender` [0] (n=ender@84.52.165.220) 09.09.55 # we take the latest one we can 09.09.59 # there's lots of stuff left to do 09.10.08 # amiconn, never mind my message, then.. if nobody else does it within 24 hours i probably will have. 09.10.16 # preglow, there is? interesting.. 09.10.38 # i know from experience playback isn't working perfectly but i haven't seen much effort put into it over the past week.. 09.10.41 # and btw, no one has fixed the lang strings to be applicable for iriver unit buttons yet, no? 09.10.57 # no, there is a half patch in the tracker 09.10.59 # preglow, i don't think so, i did see a patch for that.. 09.11.06 # Bger started doing that 09.11.16 # Dunno how far he got 09.11.28 # there is some slight confusion about what to call a joystick push 09.11.37 # "navi", or "select" 09.11.53 # "joystick" ? 09.11.54 # i'd vote for select = H100s, navi = H300s.. 09.11.59 # "navi" is more or less obvious on the h300 09.12.01 # * amiconn reiterates his idea of using icons for the buttons 09.12.20 # amiconn: yes, that's a good idea for post-3.0 09.12.23 # indeed 09.12.40 # LinusN: i say we call it select and think no more about it 09.12.47 # amiconn: how so 09.12.47 # it's obvious which button we mean 09.12.50 # I'd call the joytick push 'Select' for now 09.12.52 # at least if you ask me 09.12.53 # preglow: is it? 09.12.58 # out of intrigue 09.13.00 # what other button could be select? 09.13.08 # anyone on the h300 09.13.28 # coule just as well be "a-b" 09.13.29 # well, then let's call it navi on h300 09.13.30 # LinusN: We're talking about h1x0, aren't we? 09.13.42 # On h300 it's of course Navi 09.13.51 # that's what i'm trying to say 09.14.07 # i think "navi" on h300 and "select" on h100 and x5 09.14.19 # * petur votes for "joystick" 09.14.41 # not bad 09.14.51 # or "thingy in the middle" 09.14.55 # or maybe "stick" 09.14.59 # Hmm, 'press Joystick' makes sense... 09.15.03 # indeed 09.15.11 # 'giggle button'? 09.15.19 # "select" is just a name i gave the #define 09.15.35 # i just added it up, and my rio karma lasted for about 2 years and 2 months without issue, and even still only broke because of an accident 09.15.41 # so "joystick" is probably the best 09.16.32 # Press Joystick sounds really nice for H100s, and Navi for H300s.. 09.16.42 # so be it 09.16.42 # hahaha 09.16.50 # gigglebutton is awesome 09.16.53 # haha. 09.16.57 # there needs to be gigglebuttons in the world 09.17.18 # cute, ze.. :) 09.17.35 # * midkay is *off* to *bed*.. nite, all.. 09.18.00 # ze: My archos recorder lasted for almost 4 years now, and is in fact still working fine... 09.18.47 # amiconn: i had an archos studio 20, an archos fm rec, and a creative nomad zen, which all 3 combined only lasted 2 years and 4 months 09.18.53 # before i got my karma 09.20.22 # although to be fair, i think the issues that got each of those replaced (except for the fm which i think was more serious, defective hd or something... them fm's were never that great) was silly stuff like broken connector on the power plug or headphone jack 09.20.24 # LinusN: Still no idea about the power drain? We're looking for something drawing an additional 50..60 mA *on average*, according to my runtime tests 09.20.45 # that i'd have resoldered if i didn't have the bestbuy service (i.e. free-upgrade :p) plan 09.20.54 # no, i have not looked at it since the last time 09.22.42 # Speaking about batteries, the player's hardware charging circuit does a significantly better job in charging my new high-capacity batteries than our wannabe-sophisticated algorithm for recorder v1 09.24.50 # Do you remember how the player's charging chip is called? 09.25.50 # it depends on the version 09.26.16 # in any case, there is no charging chip in either version of the player 09.26.22 # only a regulator 09.26.55 Join TCK [0] (i=TCK@85-210-12-183.dsl.pipex.com) 09.27.26 # amiconn: btw, what is a "better job"? 09.27.27 # is there any over-charge protection in the iriver h1xx / rockbox? 09.27.33 # Hmm. It seems that the regulator does some kind of intelligent regulation... 09.27.35 # whatboutbob: yes 09.28.05 # whatboutbob: in hardware 09.28.17 # LinusN: It charges them fully, faster than the recorder charging which switches to top-off/trickle way too early, and it generates less heat when the batteries are full 09.29.01 # * amiconn decides that today is player-day 09.29.20 # amiconn: the player charging is simple, non-supervised low-current 09.29.47 # afaik 09.29.55 # It charges my 2700mAh batteries in ~8 hours, so it can't be *that* low-current 09.29.57 # LinusN: a chap over at TapersSection.com had his MicroTracker lithium battery explode in a ball of flame...just makes me damn nervous with the amount of time the iriver spends in my hip pocket. :-) 09.30.20 Join ^BeN^ [0] (n=Paprica@CBL217-132-110-191.bb.netvision.net.il) 09.30.21 # * amiconn has to check which chip is in there 09.31.15 # i believe it's the mc34063a 09.31.23 # in newplayer 09.31.30 # Charging the recorder to full-charge (rather only 90% of full charge) takes twice as long - or may take anything from 10 to 24 hours depending on how the algorithm decies 09.31.43 # *decides 09.31.46 # amiconn: weird 09.32.40 # in any case, we will need some sort of intelligence in the v1 charging code, in case the user leaves the charger connected for a long time 09.33.11 # but i agree that the algorithm might be too smart 09.34.15 # amiconn: i assume that you are using the latest algorithm 09.34.38 # and not the one in the older versions of bootbox 09.37.49 # btw 09.38.14 # wouldn't some low battery shutdown measures be good now that it's release time? talking iriver 09.39.03 # perhaps 09.40.01 # there's a patch in the tracker for that 09.40.04 # would it be hard to put something not extremely sucky in place? 09.40.15 # i guess 09.40.21 # it would be possiblt 09.40.24 # jkglpsjghw 09.40.51 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/3001 09.41.06 # the h300 boot will need some changes 09.41.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.46.35 Quit whatboutbob ("CGI:IRC") 09.47.33 Join hshah [0] (n=hshah@hirenshah.plus.com) 09.48.48 Part hshah ("Leaving") 09.48.58 Join TeaSea [0] (n=Thunderc@lonsdale.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 09.49.01 # midkay: i see your working on brickmania?? rekon u can add random level generation before 3.0 ? :D 09.58.02 Quit petur ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 09.58.19 # what do you guys think about holding right/left for the horizontal scroll feature in the browser instead of the on+left/right combination? (patch #5182) 09.58.29 # i like it 09.58.41 # and i'm a fan of one-handed operation 09.59.02 # me too 09.59.06 # the fewer combos, the better 09.59.15 # how would it work on the ipods? 09.59.19 # poorly :) 09.59.30 # thought so... 09.59.39 # but no 09.59.41 # Why? Wouldn't it be the same? 09.59.44 # i would work ok, i guess 09.59.53 # oh 10.00.19 # well, the ipod port is "buggy crap" anyway, isn't it :-) 10.00.24 # not only buggy 10.00.27 # it's smelly and ugly too 10.00.34 # and sounds like a bag of shit.. 10.00.38 # dont forget that/.. 10.00.41 # yeah, that too 10.01.07 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=4346.0 10.01.10 # i love it 10.01.50 # I've already sent him his refund. 10.01.56 # haha 10.02.02 # no! i did too 10.02.09 # Damn... 10.02.14 # then ge got twice the amount 10.02.16 # he 10.02.37 Join petur [0] (n=d4efd6a6@labb.contactor.se) 10.02.45 # So he owes us a working Rockbox... 10.02.46 # hahahaha 10.02.57 # it's cute 10.04.23 # we still got data aborts on mp3s on ipods? 10.04.32 # i wouldn't know 10.04.54 Nick humulus_ is now known as humulus (n=humulus@yogi.htu.tuwien.ac.at) 10.19.13 Quit german_snail (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.20.59 Join wooo [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust696.belf.cable.ntl.com) 10.30.56 # LinusN: Yes, of course I'm running the latest charging code on my v1 10.31.09 # just checking 10.31.58 # Holding left/right for the horizontal scroll won't work on Ondio 10.32.11 # i know 10.32.13 # (and I still don't really understand the purpose of horizontal scroll 10.32.15 # ) 10.32.25 # really? 10.33.44 # ondio would still have to use the combo 10.34.19 # amiconn: do you really mean that you don't understand the purpose of the horizontal scroll? 10.34.42 # I understand what it does... just I don't understand what one would need it for 10.34.45 # or do you mean that you personally don't have a need for it? 10.35.38 # I mean, the current line scrolls anyway 10.35.49 # it's simple. if you have very long filenames with the song title at the end, it makes it easier to navigate 10.36.12 # otherwise you would have to wait for the scroll for every file name 10.36.39 # Imho it just makes navigation more confusing... since you don't see the beginnings of the names if you're scrolled right 10.37.03 # for many files, the beginning of the file name is the same 10.37.26 # really? 10.37.27 # the artist name followed by the album name 10.37.33 # Not here... 10.37.41 # not for you, perhaps 10.37.53 # Either you see a varying amount of the beginning (if 'scroll out of view' is off), or you might see nothing at all of the name 10.38.23 # The album name as part of the file name??? 10.38.32 # a common thing 10.38.48 # * amiconn has no single file with the album name as part of the file name 10.39.21 # i'm still not talking about *your* file names 10.39.28 # Of course not 10.39.54 # But still, I find it so confusing that I never use it even on archos, with its low-res display 10.40.01 # amazingly common, yes 10.40.14 Join Poka64 [0] (i=peter@hd5e241c0.gavlegardarna.gavle.to) 10.40.19 # i've used the feeature a couple of times on music other people ripped 10.40.23 # beats having to rename them 10.40.40 # I would prefer to rename them... 10.40.44 # Renaming is a few mouse cliks... in tools like TheGodFather 10.40.55 # and a single command in linux 10.40.59 # i still can't be bothered 10.40.59 # last time i looked, rockbox had no mouse support 10.41.28 # Yeah, but last time I looked, rockbox had no ripping support either... 10.41.47 # ..so you have to put the tracks on it from a PC (or record them yourself) ;) 10.42.11 # my point is, we could remove a lot of rockbox functions if everybody had the same habits 10.42.27 # good idea, let's do that 10.42.29 # according to my habits 10.42.31 # That's correct 10.42.33 # playlists go! 10.42.47 # Remove all codecs apart from FLAC 10.42.58 # remove FLAC ! 10.43.06 # That would simplify the playback engine... 10.43.11 # in fact, let's just keep the games 10.43.22 # THAT would simplify the playback engine 10.43.25 # LinusN: My point is just that there are features which are in common use, and features which are more or less esoteric 10.43.25 # Remove all games apart from bubbles and pacbox 10.43.34 # if you don't want any options, stay with the original firmware 10.43.45 # amiconn: do you know what functions are in common use? 10.43.48 # And I do think that the common features should have priority when assigning buttons etc 10.44.21 # what other common function would you like to assign to the hold-left/right buttons in the browser? 10.45.44 # i'd dare to say that no rockbox developer really knows how the "regular" users use rockbox 10.45.57 # partly because there are no "regular" users 10.46.11 # those users use the original firmware 10.47.31 # Hmm.... 10.48.06 # linuxstb, preglow: If it was for me, the first thing we could remove would be crossfading 10.48.28 # which i believe is a pretty popular feature 10.48.33 # LinusN: Perhaps we should do some kind of user poll... 10.49.30 # amiconn: would be interesting, but not more than that 10.49.51 # following the results of that poll, all features that amiconn uses get removed :P 10.50.04 # :-) 10.50.19 # All WPSs must use at least 50 individual bitmaps... 10.50.34 # urgh 10.50.56 # :) 10.51.45 # We should also make some kind of (high-level) feature list. I know that it will never be 100% complete though... 10.52.05 # i don't use crossfade myself 10.52.08 # but i'd never remove that 10.52.10 Join Siku [0] (n=Siku@f303b.w3.tontut.fi) 10.52.13 # it's a major feature 10.52.16 # i use it occasionally 10.52.29 # one of the things that separate rockbox from the rest 10.52.32 # a very nice feature for party mode 10.53.17 # if it was up to me, i'd remove the equaliser! 10.53.28 # :-) 10.53.33 # * amiconn immediately switches off all fading when (re-)configuring rockbox 10.54.03 # crossfade is not enabled by default, iirc 10.54.07 # volume fading is 10.54.19 # the annoying bugger 10.54.22 # preglow: I would actually use the equaliser - on units with no hw tone control - if it would be possible 10.54.36 # i've never used it yet 10.54.39 # Performance on ipod doesn't allow it yet 10.54.39 # except for playing around, that is 10.55.05 # we need some kind of settings acceleration better matched to the wheel 10.55.17 # god, it's boring rotating that thing for hours to get where you want 10.55.36 # apple does it very nicely in its file browser 10.56.01 # Apple has a file browser??? That's new to me... 10.56.13 # well, blah 10.56.27 # file browser/browser/metadata browser/rofl/lol 10.57.23 # I had no problems with the wheel speed so far... I actually think the wheel is a bit too sensitive 10.58.53 Join dpro [0] (n=x@chello080109121047.8.15.vie.surfer.at) 11.02.51 Join webguest20 [0] (n=c171300b@labb.contactor.se) 11.05.21 Quit webguest20 (Client Quit) 11.05.30 Join fox010 [0] (n=Miranda@plz-84-242-95-195.nat.karneval.cz) 11.08.38 Quit fox010 (Client Quit) 11.14.39 # sensitivity is another matter 11.15.07 # my point is that the wheel is an excellent way to be able to control list acceleration, and we should use it 11.15.40 # There is what looks like it might be a reasonable patch in the patch tracker for that. 11.16.15 # Doesn't it accelerae like button repeat on all targets? 11.17.22 Join h_ivanov [0] (n=hivanov@213.222.54.133) 11.17.27 # I don't think so. 11.17.35 # i don't think that's adequate anyway 11.17.42 # but no, i don't think it does 11.17.49 Quit TeaSea ("Leaving") 11.18.53 # hi, guys.. is anybody interested in developing for priVileg AD-9625? 11.24.27 Join webguest84 [0] (n=c171300b@labb.contactor.se) 11.25.09 # i will try to provide as much as needed for such a thing 11.27.07 Quit webguest84 (Client Quit) 11.27.17 # will you also provide people to do the port? :) 11.27.38 # Is it only available in Bulgaria? 11.28.00 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@fhrouter83.fh-wuerzburg.de) 11.28.45 # linuxstb: i don't know.. it's a chinece product, i suppose 11.29.17 # but i guess i could manage to tell you at least the site, if not the specs itself 11.29.22 # linuxstb: I've sent an email to Samsung about the SA58450X01. Let's hope they can give us some info. 11.30.41 # markun: They seem to be relatively open about their other chips, so maybe you'll get a nice reply. Can you remind me which player uses that? 11.32.05 # iriver T10. The T20 users the X2 and the U10 the X3 11.32.23 # X02 and X03 11.33.40 # Also the H10 junior uses the SA58450X01 11.41.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.51.51 Join german_snail [0] (n=s@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za) 12.00.40 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp119-178.adsl.forthnet.gr) 12.09.13 Join TeaSea [0] (n=Thunderc@lonsdale.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 12.20.00 Join XavierGr_ [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp122-39.adsl.forthnet.gr) 12.33.52 Join theli_ua [0] (n=theli@c.208.177.a408.dyn.adsl.cyfra.net) 12.40.10 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.41.25 # haha....another golden quote by Linus... 12.42.34 # indeed 12.42.54 # I edited the wiki page as soon as possible 12.46.10 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 12.48.42 # hey all 12.48.51 # is the freeze going one more week? 12.50.07 # more probably though I am not sure. 12.55.04 Quit XavierGr_ () 12.55.43 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp122-39.adsl.forthnet.gr) 13.02.17 # i'm reading the CustomWPS doc... what does "The file may be 2 lines long for the Player, 13 lines for the Recorder and 26 lines for the iriver models (with native Rockbox font)." mean? 13.03.07 # the number of text lines available on a certain device? 13.03.22 # i guess it just explains how many lines would fit into dfferent target's LCD with default font 13.03.33 # for the bitmapped players this will depend on the font of course 13.05.13 # who the hell edits the WPS file from the player anyway 13.06.08 # wait until we supprt usb keyboards and mouse :) 13.06.22 # lol 13.06.26 # and bluetooth 13.06.49 # And TV output on the ipods... 13.06.55 # i'm sure the next gen ipods will have bluetooth 13.06.56 # no rockboxable dap has bluetooth yet 13.07.02 # heh 13.07.07 # USB->Bluetooth adapter? 13.07.25 # * petur creeps back under his rock 13.09.24 # petur USB OTG!!! 13.09.24 # linuxstb, is that possible for ipod? 13.09.27 # * XavierGr drools 13.10.09 # related note: I have to write two usb drivers for CE at work, so I'll be learning usb :D 13.10.24 # then hooray \o/ 13.10.38 # XavierGr did i miss something? 13.10.38 # * XavierGr throws confetti ~~~~~ 13.10.55 # ust otg worx for irivers? 13.11.05 # muesli|delhi: petur is going to learn more on USB 13.11.18 # mk 13.11.39 # i only wish the h300 lcd remote would work *dream* 13.12.18 # muesli|delhi: there is still a problem accessing the usbotg chip... once that works it might go much faster... 13.12.30 # :) 13.14.45 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m232.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 13.15.41 Join XavierGr_ [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp127-17.adsl.forthnet.gr) 13.21.32 Part h_ivanov 13.22.04 # german_snail: you still want to ask me something? 13.22.48 # yeah 13.22.53 # noob programming question 13.22.56 # umm 13.23.16 # i washed my mouth out after saying the word 'pascal' 13.23.28 # :) 13.23.40 # but i'm gonna say it again: 13.23.55 # just curious, would it be possible to code rockbox in pascal? 13.24.00 Quit wooo () 13.24.25 # not rockbox, but a program that would replace mac firmware 13.24.33 # am i making sense? 13.25.16 # haven't looked at pascal since I left school, but I guess it should be possible 13.25.28 # There's a GNU Pascal compiler based on gcc, so maybe.... But what do you mean by "replace mac firmware" ? 13.26.58 # well isn't that what rockbox does? 13.27.35 # ipoo 13.27.38 # Rockbox replaces the original firmware in ipods. It's nothing to do with macs. 13.28.32 # oh 13.28.37 # apple firmware then 13.28.43 # :] 13.32.58 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.39.59 Join vertz [0] (n=vertz@193.69.188.101) 13.41.00 Join lodesi [0] (n=moi@d01v-89-83-175-167.d4.club-internet.fr) 13.41.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.42.30 Quit german_snail (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.46.41 Join SereR0KR [0] (n=Fletcher@Fd40c.f.strato-dslnet.de) 13.48.17 Join german_snail [0] (n=s@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za) 13.49.17 Join Gibbed [0] (i=rick@pool-71-108-2-183.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 13.49.19 Quit Rick (Nick collision from services.) 13.49.30 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-71-108-2-183.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 13.53.17 Quit vertz ("Lost terminal") 13.58.37 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 14.16.08 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-140-228.pools.arcor-ip.net) 14.17.06 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 14.19.30 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 14.22.31 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp122-129.adsl.forthnet.gr) 14.23.09 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACD067AD.ipt.aol.com) 14.25.49 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 14.25.50 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 14.28.44 Quit ^BeN^ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.29.30 # linuxstb: you know if we can detect the usb power status on ipods yet? 14.32.20 Quit Rob2222_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.32.34 # yes we can, it seems 14.35.00 # are we releasign today or something? 14.35.06 # nope 14.35.14 # what's the plan? 14.35.23 # i'm just assuming 29t 14.35.23 # h 14.35.45 # okies. that's good, I should have more time this week than last so I can actually fix some bugs before then. 14.35.53 # that's the wird thing there is no plan :D 14.35.56 # i had a bug where i got stuck at the end of a track the other day, btw 14.36.05 # i tried skipping backwards when at the very end of a track 14.36.20 # within pcmbuf seconds of the end? 14.36.24 # progress indicator stuck there, but track started again when i tried to skip. could not skip to other tracks however 14.36.27 # yeah 14.36.31 # it was at the very very end 14.37.11 # hmmmmm, frustrating that is, along with the seeking in the last pcmbuf seconds. 14.39.12 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-122-193.VIC.netspace.net.au) 14.41.14 # Hmm, there's still some weirdness with playlists 14.41.33 Quit german_snail (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.41.48 Quit XavierGr_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.42.34 # nobody uses playlists anyway! 14.42.53 # m3u, or on the fly? 14.43.28 # all in all, playback seems pretty solid to me 14.43.35 # voice ui, however, is not, they say 14.44.27 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.44.45 Quit Moos ("Reboot") 14.45.41 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB2F7BE.ipt.aol.com) 14.45.49 # strange thing with Voice UI is how slow it can get when browsing. 14.46.09 # It tries to voice all entries even if the user gets paste them quickly... 14.46.34 # * petur noticed that too 14.46.47 # paste = past 14.47.18 # (damn my typing skills are getting far worse than preglow's :D ) 14.47.51 # lostlogic: how about the semaphore issue we discussed last time? 14.48.43 Join silent [0] (n=ccb94b82@labb.contactor.se) 14.48.48 # hello 14.48.56 # hi 14.49.02 # I had a quick question 14.49.08 # shoot it 14.49.26 # i just wanted to know how to install fonts for themes 14.49.55 # download the font pack from the daily builds 14.50.06 # http://download.rockbox.org/daily/fonts/rockbox-fonts-20060522.zip 14.50.17 # ok cool 14.50.23 # and how do I switch to them 14.50.35 Quit Febs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.50.52 # from General Settings choose Display option then Change font (or somehting similar) 14.50.57 # ok 14.51.00 # thank you 14.51.15 # np 14.51.59 Quit silent (Client Quit) 14.52.11 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m232.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 14.57.00 # preglow: You always use playlists when playing music in rockbox 15.00.03 Quit sirk ("CGI:IRC") 15.01.47 Join german_snail [0] (n=s@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za) 15.01.59 Join Ayer [0] (i=shnaider@ppp129-149.dialup.mtu-net.ru) 15.02.23 Join webguest49 [0] (n=1827ae01@labb.contactor.se) 15.02.23 Part Ayer 15.02.24 Join Ayer [0] (i=shnaider@ppp129-149.dialup.mtu-net.ru) 15.07.19 Part Ayer 15.07.32 # amiconn: i know, but that's just an unfortunate consequence of the design ;) 15.08.02 Join Ayer [0] (i=shnaider@ppp129-149.dialup.mtu-net.ru) 15.08.17 Part Ayer 15.08.18 # preglow: I don't see that as unfortunate. If it hadn't got some bugs it would be ideal. 15.10.44 # * Moos love the *best* playlist concept there is for DAP 15.10.59 # Glory for hardeep ;) 15.13.06 Join webguest55 [0] (n=5087f79c@labb.contactor.se) 15.13.46 # the playlist catalog which Hardeep finished works just fine, very nice feature 15.14.28 # this is for post 3.0 15.14.36 # JdGordon, haha. hmm... :) 15.14.48 # yes, but I'm running it now 15.14.55 # hehe :) 15.15.01 # :) 15.15.36 # basic random generation should be pretty simple actually.. 15.15.42 # pre-3.0, i dunno.. :) 15.16.44 # I cant find the "coffe at 5am" feature, that would complete rockbox for me 15.17.09 # coffe=coffee 15.17.15 # haha :D 15.18.48 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3106.gwdg.de) 15.18.58 Part webguest55 15.19.28 # PaulJam: backdrops working fine now? 15.20.15 # haha. 15.20.32 # petur: i haven't experienced any problems, but i haven't tested much 15.21.03 # petur: thanks for the fix 15.23.41 # for the reworw even :P 15.23.46 # *rework 15.27.35 # petur: Yes, thanks for cleaning up my mess... 15.28.41 # :-) 15.40.58 Join Frex [0] (n=Marcus@85.107.165.16) 15.41.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.45.28 Join whatboutbob [0] (n=cbd6701e@labb.contactor.se) 15.51.14 Quit petur ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 15.55.45 Part LinusN 15.56.32 # gah, Linus left before I could answer him. 15.57.07 # he hates you now 16.02.53 # lostlogic: preglow's right...cut your losses and run. 16.06.09 # * whatboutbob exits...stage right (bed) 16.06.09 Part whatboutbob 16.06.09 Quit Rick (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.06.09 Quit Kohlrabi (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.06.09 Quit Moos (Connection reset by peer) 16.06.09 Join Rick [0] (i=rick@pool-71-108-2-183.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 16.06.09 Join DrMoos [0] (i=DrMoos@m232.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 16.06.09 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-140-228.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.06.09 Join MarcusFrex [0] (n=Marcus@85.107.165.16) 16.06.54 Quit ender` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.06.56 Join ender [0] (i=useless@84.52.165.220) 16.23.01 Quit Frex (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.26.22 Join ^BeN^ [0] (i=Paprica@CBL217-132-110-191.bb.netvision.net.il) 16.26.37 Nick Acksaw is now known as ACK54W (n=Acksaw@spc1-stok5-0-0-cust770.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) 16.30.04 Join Falco98 [0] (n=18586afa@labb.contactor.se) 16.31.49 Quit TCK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.32.31 Quit muesli|delhi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.42.38 Quit Falco98 ("CGI:IRC") 16.43.18 Join petur [0] (n=d4efd6a6@labb.contactor.se) 16.46.22 Quit Sinbios ("If the definition of a klutz is someone who doesn't have eyes on their ass, then yes, I suppose I am a klutz.") 16.50.16 Quit JdGordon (Remote closed the connection) 16.53.36 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 16.58.11 Join einhirn_ [0] (i=Miranda@li.itc.tu-clausthal.de) 17.00.29 Join chang [0] (n=chang@AAmiens-157-1-151-64.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) 17.05.00 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 17.05.50 Quit linuxstb (Nick collision from services.) 17.05.51 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 17.06.32 Join Rob2222_ [0] (n=Miranda@ACB7E958.ipt.aol.com) 17.07.35 Join klrspz [0] (n=klrSpz@69.15.248.2) 17.11.15 Quit einhirn_ ("Miranda IM! 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When I try to play them, though, it just stops. 17.56.20 # Automatic removing of files form TagCache is not yet implemented. You need to force the tagcache update manually. 17.57.01 # Alright. I think I may have done that already, though. 17.58.10 # Nope, forcing the update didn't fix it. 17.58.31 # Is there a way that I can delete the tag cache and reform it? 17.58.38 Part MarcusFrex ("Leaving") 17.59.37 # have you rebooted after forcing the update? 17.59.44 # Just trying that now. 17.59.55 # Rebooting as in hard reset, or rebooting as in turning it off and then on again? 18.00.26 # turning off and on 18.00.35 # Nope, that didn't work. 18.00.44 # Wait, assuming that I'm letting the update go through. 18.00.51 # reset does the same bu there is no need for it. 18.01.00 # It shows the busy sign in the upper right corner, and I've been waiting until that icon goes away. 18.01.20 # then i have no idea (i'm not using tagcache) 18.01.43 # Hm. 18.01.46 # Alright. 18.02.12 # Do you know where the tagcache itself is kept? 18.02.54 # i think tagcache creates some files in the .rockbox directory, you could try to remove them 18.03.02 # Yeah. 18.03.06 # That's what I was thinking. 18.05.53 Quit theli_ua ("quit") 18.06.03 # Oh, yeah, that's pretty easy to find. They're all named “tagcache_0x” 18.06.45 Quit hannesd_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.06.55 # fancy quotes 18.07.12 # Heh. Sorry. I'm more used to them. 18.09.18 # i have heard the complaint before but i don't remember what the reply was, but i'm assuming it will be fixed sooner or later 18.11.04 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-140-228.pools.arcor-ip.net) 18.13.38 # Yeah, the fix seems to be deleting the tagcache files. 18.13.44 # Not simple, but not that bad, either. 18.16.10 # Alright, now it says it can't find the codec to play mp3s. 18.16.16 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 18.16.26 # did you update rockbox.ipod without updating .rockbox? 18.16.43 # and has “can??” as the title for the current song. 18.16.47 Join Polo_o [0] (n=polo_o@82-69-160-166.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) 18.16.51 # I don't think I updated either rockbox.ipod or .rockbox 18.16.58 # oh heh 18.17.05 # I mean, I deleted the tagcache files from .rockbox/, but ... 18.17.37 # but you still have the mp3 codec? 18.17.51 # ah hello markun ;p 18.17.52 # That's a good question. 18.18.00 # hi XavierGr! 18.18.03 # It occurs to me that it's entirely possible that I've only been playing oggs and m4as. 18.18.06 # Don't worry, I will commit today :) 18.18.09 # hehe 18.18.10 # nice 18.18.20 # Hm. 18.18.25 # I have mpa.codec and mpc.codec 18.18.30 # That's a known bug I told Slasheri numerous times 18.19.01 Quit ender (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.19.10 # maybe a good time to fix it 18.19.19 # If you update tagcache and don't have dircache + tagcache in ram enabled, it will show that weird mpa.codec error and not show any files after tagcache commit on next boot 18.19.41 # Alright. 18.19.45 # I have no idea what causes the error. Possibly tagcache messes with the dirbrowser buffer 18.19.51 # Where do I enable dircache + tagcache in ram? 18.19.55 # The solution is to reboot once more 18.20.09 # s/solution/workaround/ 18.20.22 # Alright. 18.20.44 Quit Polo_o () 18.21.05 # Thank you very much. 18.24.23 # amiconn: any plans to make Disk Power off default? 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It takes them a while to go away and I was wondering if this was known or common. My mini is modified a bit... 19.22.17 # amiconn has a 2g mini I think though too 19.23.55 # I know that effect 19.24.12 # We need to shut down the lcd controller properly on ipod, which we don't do yet 19.24.29 Quit jbauman (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.24.38 Join akaidiota [0] (n=not@84.217.2.174) 19.24.52 # amiconn: ahh, ok, where's the shutdown code located? do you know if ipod linux has this problem also? 19.25.12 # XavierGr: The question is, do we want to keep the option for disk poweroff, and only enable it by default, or do we want to enable it completely, and get rid of the option altogether? 19.25.22 Quit enzyme () 19.25.45 # I measured spinup times a bit, for H1x0 it takes ~0.5 sec longer to spin up from powered off state 19.25.52 # (3.1 sec versus 2.6 sec) 19.26.09 # For archos, the difference is considerably smaller for whatever reason 19.26.18 Quit ender (Success) 19.26.27 # it seems to eat quite a bit of my battery when this happens too 19.26.48 # kkurbjun: I dunno whether ipl has the same problem, I don't have it installed, and won't install it either 19.27.10 # midkay 19.27.11 # I installed it once, it ran exactly one time. After shutdown and power up, it didn't boot anymore 19.27.13 # errr 19.27.19 # :you there? =) 19.27.28 Join chang [0] (n=chang@AAmiens-157-1-151-64.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) 19.27.35 Quit Cassandra (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.27.35 Nick Cassandra- is now known as Cassandra (n=Cassandr@cpc3-oxfd8-0-0-cust240.oxfd.cable.ntl.com) 19.28.46 # no, I was just wondering if they know how to properly shutdown the lcd or if we have any documentation on the lcd? 19.28.52 Quit chang (Client Quit) 19.29.08 # The datasheets are available, both for the mono and the colour lcd controller 19.29.42 # amiconn: so what's your vote? 19.29.44 # ok, i'll look into that then 19.30.02 # so this is an issue with more then just the mini's? 19.30.05 # I only didn't do it yet b/c ipod isn't a 3.0 release target 19.30.43 # For the other targets it doesn't seem to be needed, but it sounds like a good idea to do it for all 19.31.21 # It's just a matter of adding a new unction to all lcd driver (lcd_shutdown() or sth like that) 19.31.34 # *function, drivers 19.31.59 # I see, I was just interested in having my mini shutdown right because sometimes I forget to restart the mini in the apple os 19.32.22 Join vin` [0] (i=nach@unaffiliated/takatumi) 19.32.28 # ? 19.32.35 # I don't know what damage this can cause the the lcd also if any 19.32.39 # Why do you start retailos? 19.32.57 # * amiconn removed retailos from the firmware partition 19.33.01 # I just start it so I don't have to worry about the bars being "burned" in 19.33.02 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.33.37 # I don't know if this is true also, but it seems to really drain the battery when that happens also 19.33.46 # I can't seem to get the power up, the battery is mostly empty in the graphic, haven't had any problems yet, is the icon for real? 19.34.07 # kkurbjun: when what happens? missed it. 19.34.31 # kkurbjun: I didn't observe that at all 19.34.49 # when the mini shutsdown sometimes bars are left on the screen that end up getting left into the screen. Yeah, I'm not sure if that 19.35.09 # 's actually happening as I havnt' really checked the battery meter before and after 19.35.16 # All I get is a little black bar from time to time. It never appears when the poweroff time was very short, and it also doesn't appear when the poweroff time was very long 19.35.35 # (very long meaning a day or so) 19.35.45 Join obo_ [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 19.35.56 # hmm, so you don't get the bar burned in? 19.36.59 # It looks like you described when it appears (pure black first, then slowly fading), but it only happens sometimes, and only when the poweroff time was neither too short nor too long 19.38.17 Quit german_snail (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.38.20 Join Ribs [0] (n=ribs@riblet.plus.com) 19.38.28 # It's definitely not good for the lcd when this happens often, so it should be fixed, 19.38.39 # but it doesn't seem to be too harful either 19.38.48 # *harmful 19.38.49 # hmm, I acidentally left it like that overnight and it took it a long time to go away. When I noticed it within a few minutes and restarted it went away much quicker 19.39.19 # also I had just charged my battery and ran it for about 30 minutes and then it shutdown, the batery was dead in the morning 19.39.46 # but I don't know what to typically expect for runtimes in rockbox 19.40.04 # it's a new battery too, 800mah I think 19.40.22 # I think one of the charge pump capacitors of the lcd controller doesn't discharge fast enough, and the lcd controller clock stops when the voltage gets too low, so the resident charge gets applied to whatever lcd row was switched on at that moment 19.40.52 # mini 1g or 2g? 19.41.10 # (g == generation) 19.41.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.41.31 # 750 that is.. mini 1g, but I don't have the hitachi drive in there either. It's just a CF card 19.42.10 # seems to run fine other then the lcd problem.. it's almost all the time for me 19.42.14 Quit ender1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.42.14 # Hmm. The 1st gen is listed as having significantly shorter battery life 19.42.22 # don't know if that CF card affects that too though 19.42.23 Quit akaidiot (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.43.04 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 19.43.04 # Apple promises 8 hours for 1st gen (stock 400 mAh battery) 19.43.19 # 2nd gen should reach 18 hours (stock 630 mAh battery) 19.43.32 # Rockbox manages ~10 hours on 2nd gen 19.43.39 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=stephan@dslb-084-056-077-157.pools.arcor-ip.net) 19.43.40 # wow, that is a big difference 19.43.45 Quit obo_ (Killed by ballard.freenode.net (Nick collision)) 19.44.06 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 19.44.11 # Yes, we need to find the disk poweroff control (I'm pretty sure there is one) 19.44.20 # I wonder what causes that. the 1g has a different pp chip only correct 19.44.33 # from the 2g that is 19.44.52 # Different PP, different button/wheel electronics, and an 8bit interface to the lcd 19.45.04 Quit dpro (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.45.23 # I would think the CF card would have better runtimes though.. what's the interface on the 2g? 19.45.26 # The mini 2nd gen is the only greyscale ipod that has a 16bit interface to the lcd controller 19.45.31 # ahh 19.45.49 # that seems unnecessary 19.45.55 # (and it's also the only ipod equipped with PP5022) 19.47.09 # is the 22 more efficient power wise? 19.47.43 # Seems so... 19.48.04 Quit akaidiota (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19.48.17 # The PP5022 an also be clocked higher. If I want, I can have all 5 eq bands with mp3 and no skipping 19.48.18 Join akaidiota [0] (n=not@84-217-2-174.tn.glocalnet.net) 19.49.06 # nice 19.49.58 # the product brief says 300% power reduction over the 20.. wonder why they didnt' use the 22 in the photo 19.50.48 # They use the 5021 in nano & video 19.51.12 # It's said to be a low power version of the 5020, but there's no product brief 19.51.21 # Perhaps the 5022 was too expensive 19.51.51 # makes sense 19.53.27 Join silent [0] (n=ccb94b82@labb.contactor.se) 19.54.00 # hello 19.54.11 # amiconn: do you have a link to the lcd spec sheet for the mini's? 19.54.16 # i had another quick question 19.54.38 # is there any way to get iBoy (gameboy emulator) to run on rockbox instead of rockboy 19.55.00 # because the setup of the rockboy is horrible with the button configuration on an ipod 19.55.44 # not unless you remake iboy for rockbox. I think your time would be better spent trying to fix the ipod's controls though 19.56.59 # silent: why not just fix the button configuration for rockboy? 19.57.07 # there just arent enough buttons on the ipod for all the functions 19.57.24 # How does iboy fix it? 19.57.36 # solve 19.57.47 # on iboy the movement is on the touch of a button, not actually pressing it 19.58.50 # ill be on a bit later though 19.58.51 Quit silent ("CGI:IRC") 20.02.04 # amiconn, found it, nevermind 20.05.00 Quit klrspz () 20.05.07 Nick gamerD00d is now known as KlrSpz (n=klrSpz@69.15.248.2) 20.06.48 # markun, here? 20.08.35 # yes 20.08.49 # I have something for you... 20.08.54 # http://users.teilam.gr/~yngwiejo/dump_0007.PNG 20.09.09 # Nice! 20.09.13 # :) 20.11.16 # I'll post it on mygigabeat if you don't mind 20.11.41 # Which font did you use? 20.12.26 Join Caliban [0] (n=ianmacd@kwark.caliban.org) 20.12.28 # courB14 20.12.56 # Anyone here running Rockbox on an X5? 20.16.09 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 20.16.28 # Any X5 owners here? 20.18.12 Quit ]Maggie[ (Remote closed the connection) 20.18.13 Join ]Maggie[ [0] (i=fupl@t2-17.ath.cx) 20.19.36 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m232.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 20.20.26 # Caliban: yes? 20.20.43 Join FLACo98 [0] (n=18586afa@labb.contactor.se) 20.20.57 # hey all 20.21.04 # hey 20.21.19 # anything fun happening? 20.22.33 Nick FLACo98 is now known as Falco98 (n=18586afa@labb.contactor.se) 20.24.22 # anything new concerning ipod battery life with rockbox ? 20.24.40 # * Falco98 looks around 20.24.54 Quit Moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.25.11 # Damn, Moos left. 20.25.14 # I don't think so, but the ipod port don't have a high priority before 3.0 20.25.19 # Any other X5 owners here? 20.25.54 # so markun:what's the current progress of the Gigabeat port? 20.26.47 Join hardeep [0] (n=hardeep@c-67-188-108-180.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 20.27.10 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m232.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 20.27.43 # Caliban: I'm here for few little minutes, how can I help you? 20.29.46 # XavierGr: we're trying to display the rockbox logo on the screen, but for some reason it's not working 20.30.48 # Are you still fighting the linux kernel? 20.31.14 # linuxstb: we replaced the linux kernel 20.31.27 # linux kernel? 20.31.39 # HCl: the toshiba gigabeat runs linux 20.32.02 # ah. 20.32.03 # HCl: Ah, 20:30, I'll be there in a few minutes :) 20.32.05 # :p 20.32.05 # markun: What have you replaced it with? Your own linux kernel, or Rockbox? 20.32.05 # k 20.32.28 # linuxstb: just a test app 20.33.29 # Has anyone started the work to get the Rockbox bootloader compiling? 20.34.33 # linuxstb: I made some small changes so backlight, ata and button driver should work. 20.34.56 # Nice. 20.34.59 # After LCD and USB mode I think we could get the bootloader running 20.35.58 # USB mode would be nice because we have to hot-swap the hdd to replace the kernel right now 20.42.47 Quit SereR0KR ("XChat Aqua") 20.44.29 # hi everybody 20.44.33 # saluton markun ;) 20.44.48 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 20.45.36 Join Zeal [0] (i=WinNT@66-191-26-88.dhcp.gnps.or.charter.com) 20.51.29 # Moos: hi, I was wondering if Rockbox removes the 9999 file limit on the X5, the way it does on the H140. 20.51.59 # Hey guys, I have an Ipod 2G, and I was wondering what I can do to help... 20.52.22 # Moos: I've been using Rockbox on an H140 for a long while, but I'd like to get an 60 Gb X5. 20.52.24 # markun: hot swap? 20.52.32 # Caliban: no number file limit on Rockbox, that is for all devices 20.52.43 # Caliban: I've got both too 20.52.46 # Moos: However, it's only useful to me if I can use Rockbox and go beyond 9999 files. 20.52.51 # Moos: That's great news 20.53.01 Quit Colossus (Success) 20.53.25 # I wasn't sure if it was an OS limit or that the file-system itself was somehow limited to 9999 files on the X5. 20.53.31 # all Rockbox devices have'nt this limit 20.53.49 # That's great news. Out of interest, why do you own both devices? 20.53.54 Join Colossus [0] (n=apolloti@dialup-4.245.113.117.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net) 20.54.31 # my ihp 140 is 2 1/2 years old now :) 20.54.53 # and my X5 60GB have something like 2 months 20.54.56 Join buraianto [0] (n=chatzill@64.90.198.6) 20.55.09 # yeah, mine, too, but it's still the best player out there, IMHO. Of course, I don't actually own the X5 yet. 20.55.24 # Do you prefer the X5 or the iHP140? 20.55.27 # amiconn: yes, original bootloader enters USB mode if it doesn't detect a hdd. 20.55.54 # yeah for pure music I think so the h140 is the best, but I wanted to switch for more storage+color 20.56.01 # @Caliban 20.56.30 Join w0ng [0] (i=zomg@HSE-Montreal-ppp122791.qc.sympatico.ca) 20.56.32 # Moos: Agreed. If there were an iHP160, I would want that instead. 20.56.44 # I don't care about the colour so much. 20.57.05 # is v3 "officially" comming out today? or is it slated for the 29th? 20.57.07 # Are there any esperantists in here? / Cxu estas esperantistoj cxi tie? 20.57.22 # I'm currently working on the Esperanto translation, so anybody who's interested please message me 20.57.35 # I need to find somewhere that sells the car charger for the X5 in Europe. 20.57.37 # w0ng: I think the 29th. 20.57.38 # Caliban: switch to color isn't too bad neither ;) 20.57.51 # mmh 20.57.53 # alrihty :) 20.57.55 # alright& 20.57.57 # Moos: sure, if it's there also, it's a bonus. 20.57.59 # fucking keyboard 20.58.38 # Moos: do you have an opinion on which device gives better sound, the iHP140 or the X5? 20.58.46 # Caliban: a good one :) , but my h140 still working like a charm and I still love it, but my main device is X5 now 20.59.06 Join SereR0KR [0] (n=Fletcher@Fd40c.f.strato-dslnet.de) 20.59.27 # both have good quality imho, but I don't think there is noticiable difference betwen them 21.00.03 # I remenber with the 2-3 days I tested cowan fw, the sound was quite impressive with bass and all 21.00.27 # Great. Well, I think that tips me over the edge. I'll order the X5 from a shop here in .nl tonight./ 21.00.39 # hehe :) 21.00.40 # It'll be great to have a 60 Gb player. 21.00.46 # I think so 21.00.58 # I really love my X5 Rockbox ;) 21.01.05 # I just hope they get the battery life to be a little better soon. 21.01.19 # let's hope in Rockbox 21.01.31 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.01.47 # Caliban: why don't you just change the harddrive of your h140? 21.01.56 # if there wasn't Rockbox, I probably didn't buy one X5 anyway :) 21.01.56 # Moos: do you know a good source for the X5 car adapter? I haven't found a shop in this country that has it. 21.02.17 # I don't use this sorry 21.02.25 # PaulJam_: It seemed like a lot of hassle. I love my iHP140 and didn't want to mess with it. 21.02.50 # Moos: I agree. I've been waiting to get an X5 until Rockbox was a little further along. 21.03.09 # with Rockbox, it rocks ;) 21.03.15 # anyway time to go out 21.03.18 # c you all 21.03.26 # Caliban: hope I helped you 21.03.26 # OK, thanks for your answers to my questions. 21.03.30 # i wish rockbox could have my babies! 21.03.31 # <3 21.03.32 # yes, you did 21.03.33 # thanks 21.03.33 # nno problems 21.03.34 # bye 21.03.36 Quit Moos ("Gloire à Rockbox !") 21.04.55 # i like that quit message :P 21.07.38 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-87-52.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.08.09 # * Falco98 blinks 21.08.24 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ipa200.12.tellas.gr) 21.08.24 # i just started my h140 for the first time since last night, and it booted into the factory software... 21.08.28 # for no particular reason 21.09.06 Quit vin` (".") 21.09.07 # * Falco98 restarts 21.09.18 # hm.. rockbox loaded fine this time 21.09.21 # weeeeeeird 21.10.15 # ooh 21.10.22 # i've found a bug in general shuffle mode 21.10.38 # ermm.. that is to say, a bug with using "insert shuffled" 21.10.53 # (but not in "shuffle mode" player-wise) 21.11.27 # if you start a playlist by doing an "insert shuffled", and it starts playing on track X, and it reads "1 of XXX" (referring to your position in the dynamic playlist)... 21.12.30 # if you then stop / restart and resume playback, it resumes on the correct song, in the correct spot, but the dynamic playlist has been fux0red -- mine is now reading "96 of XXX" when a second ago it was reading "1" 21.12.54 # wth is that all about? 21.13.35 # * linuxstb points to hardeep 21.16.06 # * Falco98 has always been a little confused by the numbering of things in the playlist-control file 21.16.36 # * Falco98 is just relieved it's not a bug in the "insert random folders" patch, since it happens similarly there 21.19.33 Join Daishi [0] (n=daishi@ool-45703854.dyn.optonline.net) 21.19.43 # Falco98: have you verified this with a "clean" cvs build? 21.21.14 Quit mirak__ (Success) 21.21.19 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp122-129.adsl.forthnet.gr) 21.22.29 Quit earHertz ("Chatzilla 0.9.72 [Firefox 1.5.0.3/2006042618]") 21.23.23 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-19-190.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.23.30 Join ender` [0] (i=useless@84.52.165.220) 21.24.55 Quit w0ng ("uhh..no") 21.25.48 Quit kkurbjun ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 21.25.49 # Paul: nope.. though i'm relatively confident that my patch doesn't interfere with or affect "insert shuffled" at all 21.26.50 # you wanna try for me real quick? just do "insert shuffled" on a folder with a bunch of subfolders and files and stuff.. then stop, and resume playback, and note your position in the dynamic playlist 21.28.29 Quit ACK54W ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 21.31.43 Join Acksaw [0] (n=Acksaw@spc1-stok5-0-0-cust770.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) 21.31.54 Join RoC_MM [0] (i=dragon@dsl-29-8.cofs.net) 21.32.10 # Falco98: i had fixed a similar bug a week or so ago, are you using latest cvs? 21.32.33 Quit tvelocity ("Ex-Chat") 21.33.08 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@mrbg-d9b953f2.pool.mediaWays.net) 21.33.25 Quit Colossus ("“What would Jesus do if /His/ boyfriend pressured /Him/ for some tongue after cheerleading practice?”") 21.33.39 # yeah, it's working fine for me 21.34.09 # for me this bug happens too, but im currently using a patched build 21.36.17 # hardeep: the build i observe the bug in is only 3 days old 21.36.20 # the 19th 21.36.35 # i'm currently compiling an instance of the simulator based on today's daily, unpatched 21.36.44 # so i can see if it's isolated or not :-P 21.36.47 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ipa200.12.tellas.gr) 21.36.50 # Falco98: okay, let me know if it still happens with unpatched 21.36.56 # ok 21.37.13 # * Falco98 waits 10 minutes for the compiler to do its thing :-P 21.37.34 Quit _FireFly_ ("Client exiting") 21.38.12 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@dslb-084-056-077-157.pools.arcor-ip.net) 21.39.21 # * Falco98 wonders where one would get iAmp now that WPS' aren't included in daily builds 21.39.30 # (since it's not in the WPS gallery apparently) 21.41.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.43.05 Nick Acksaw is now known as ACK54W (n=Acksaw@spc1-stok5-0-0-cust770.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) 21.44.04 # aha, i reproduced it 21.44.22 # happens when you insert shuffled with shuffle mode off 21.44.36 # will take a look 21.44.38 # correct 21.44.40 # :) 21.44.55 # i noticed it when i would be using "insert tree randomly" then restart later 21.45.02 Join ender [0] (i=useless@84.52.165.220) 21.45.10 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 21.45.20 # the track-playing would be correct, but the positioning in the dynamic PL would be somewhere between "off" and "WAY off" 21.45.42 # (and, of course, when doing "insert tree randomly" one would typically have shuffle off) 21.46.10 # * scorche` has shuffle on when doing the above for some odd reason 21.46.27 Join l337dexter [0] (n=derek_sl@c-71-229-93-128.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 21.46.52 # when doing which? 21.47.09 # insert shuffled 21.47.19 Part XavierGr 21.48.30 # gotcha 21.49.12 # i have a question for any of all if you can help (Rockbox on iPod 4g) 21.49.23 # then say it >_> 21.49.35 # to do so makes sense when listening to an already-shuffled list in shuffle mode, and you want to add something.. but if you do a big "insert shuffled" to generate your playlist and don't want it further messed with, you leave shuffle mode off :-P 21.50.00 # * Falco98 chuckles.. i pass a mailbox with "1337" written in big white painted numbers almost every day 21.50.15 Join dunno [0] (n=5087f79c@labb.contactor.se) 21.50.24 # ok, i install the bootloader, it works, i took a build from may 10, put the .rockbox folder and the rockbox.ipod into the root of my ipod, and when it tries to boot, it just sits at the Rockbox screen that shows the cvs version 21.50.25 Quit _Veseliq_ (Remote closed the connection) 21.50.33 # hardeep: you beat me to it, but just to make sure i just reproduced it via the latest clean build 21.50.34 # * scorche` sees nothing wrong with further messing with a shuffled playlist 21.51.25 # scorche`: agreed, but there may be some cases where someone might not want it so 21.51.34 Quit ender` (Success) 21.51.36 # but not for me =) 21.51.42 # hardeep, your thoughts on giving the wps context > playlist catalog > view <== a different name ? perhaps Catalog List 21.51.48 # l337dexter: how about a more recent build? 21.52.03 # well i tried todays and yesterdays build first but it does the same thing 21.52.16 # dunno: i'm okay with whatever name... however, the playlist catalog->view implies viewing the playlist catalog, not the playlist imo 21.52.42 # l337dexter: are you using an ipod g4? 21.52.57 # @paul: yes 21.53.28 # Hardeep, it doesn't have the same functionality as the normal playlists "view", thats why I was thinking of naming it differently 21.53.50 # 1337, i had that issue once. i installed daily build and never had that problem again 21.54.09 # i read about this bug, the only solution i know of is to use an older buid where this doesn't happen 21.54.19 # should i go before may 10? 21.54.22 # dunno: but the name of the context menu is different (i.e. playlist->view vs. playlist catalog->view) 21.54.55 # i'll change it if it confuses people of course 21.55.00 Quit Aghaster (Remote closed the connection) 21.55.04 # yes but the playlist view has diffent function to catalog's view 21.55.10 # l337dexter: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5332 21.55.27 # exactly, you're vieweing a "playlist" vs. viewing a "playlist catalog" 21.55.37 # they should have different functions 21.56.08 # but, it's such a minor issue... i'll go ahead and change 21.56.19 # I must admit to it confusing me, I expected the same result in catalog view as playlist view 21.56.32 Nick ender is now known as ender` (i=useless@84.52.165.220) 21.56.48 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 21.57.36 # Thanks for implementing this feature hardeep 21.57.37 # @paul: that one works, thanks much 21.58.00 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 21.58.37 # another question, can i start my ipod in file mode, load up my songs using itunes, and then have rockbox actaully play all those songs? 21.59.58 Join Hansmaulwurf [0] (n=maerlyn@p5081BA11.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 22.00.53 # l337: considered ditching iTunes? 22.00.57 Part dunno 22.01.22 # falco: should i? 22.01.24 # l337dexter: should work. Are you using tagcache? 22.03.08 # well my friend has that problem, when he starts it up it says the tagcache isn't built or someting 22.03.39 # l337: you could.. it would make things a bit easier, since you could just use a sane filesystem instead of the iTunes one 22.03.40 Join pixelma [0] (n=pixelma@212.204.41.115) 22.03.58 # so just make folders on it basically? 22.04.04 # yeah 22.04.07 # like normal ppl put them on their hard drives? 22.04.09 # copy shit straight over 22.04.14 # yup 22.04.14 Quit scorche` ("CGI:IRC") 22.04.30 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 22.04.31 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 22.04.31 # hahaha 'normal people' :) 22.04.41 # :P 22.04.57 # but if you do want to use tagcache, just have it "force update" first 22.05.03 # otherwise it'll show nothing 22.05.28 # how do i force update it? 22.05.38 # * amiconn spots hardeep 22.05.44 # hmm.. that i forget, it's somewhere in the menus 22.05.54 # hey amiconn 22.06.10 # hardeep: Did you read about the strange effect I had when adding a dir to a playlist on my Ondio? 22.06.51 # amiconn: just wanted to let u know i fixed that bug you found in my "track skip + shuffle" patch which you found just after i parted a few days ago 22.06.53 # Unfortunately I didn't make a copy of .playlist_control ... 22.07.06 # amiconn: looking at it now 22.07.07 # Falco98: Yes, read that 22.07.31 # cool 22.07.35 # hardeep: There's more to it. After restarting, I kept that playlist since it appeared to work properly again. 22.07.42 Join german_snail [0] (n=s@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za) 22.07.58 # amiconn: the playlist code should be thread safe... at least we try to take a mutex around all playlist/control accesses 22.08.18 # amiconn: it might a problem with flush/reload logic in mpeg code around track changes 22.08.30 # A day later I decided to add another directory. Then it became totally weird: After the last old directory ended, it didn't continue with the new one. 22.08.31 # is tag cache a good way to do it or not? 22.08.34 Quit lodesi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.08.47 # Instead, it played a track from the old part of the list.... 22.08.54 # hmmmm 22.08.55 # l337: you can but try it and see what you think 22.09.06 # of course, if you use a normal directory structure you could always do it both ways :-P 22.09.10 # This was the point were I decided to flush the list and restart playing the dir 22.09.24 # that does sound like the playlist was corrupted somehow 22.09.38 # What would cause that? 22.09.42 # if i use a normal dir structure, do i show files by id3 tag or how? 22.09.48 Join lodesi [0] (n=moi@d01v-89-83-175-167.d4.club-internet.fr) 22.09.56 # like i said, you can do it either way 22.10.05 # woo!!! 22.10.06 # you can use filetree navigation or do tagcache if you like that 22.10.08 # The addition of the last dir was done half-way through a track, not near a track change 22.10.15 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 22.10.24 # hey everyone 22.10.35 # should i make the dir start in the main dir of the ipod or start liek in a sub dir called music 22.10.50 # amiconn: only way i could see that happening is if the order of tracks in playlist was not updated correctly when you inserted the new ones 22.10.56 # i use a subdir called "music", but you could do it any wya you like 22.11.02 # did you look at the playlist in the viewer by any chance? 22.11.09 # i do "music" -> "albums" -> artist list, etc 22.11.27 # hardeep: Unfortunately not :-( 22.11.32 # i was thinking music -> artist -> album 22.11.40 # i do music > "Artist [Album]" 22.12.15 # i'll take a look to see if there's anything that could cause that problem... 22.12.19 # i should clarify: i do "music" -> "albums", "live stuff", "soundtracks" -> "artist" -> "(year) Album" 22.12.20 # it sounds like it hasn't reproduced since? 22.12.42 # thats happy system 22.13.14 # i only have it split up that specifically (with separate trees for albums, live stuff, soundtracks, etc) so i have good control over building playlists 22.13.24 # on my PC i just have everything by artist / album 22.14.34 # oh well, time to split for awhile... 22.14.38 Join ender [0] (i=useless@84.52.165.220) 22.14.55 Quit Falco98 ("CGI:IRC") 22.15.25 # hardeep: No, not yet. Usually I don't extend dynamic playlists by adding dirs to it, but let a dir play until it ends, then start a new one 22.16.12 # This was the first time in a while I did it this way - and it caused all the weirdness 22.18.23 # I think it might have to do with thread because it happened on Ondio, which implies 2 things: (1) Ondio "disk" (MMC) reading is rather slow compared to the disk based units - theoritical maximum is 3MBit/s (note: MBit, not MByte) (2) Because it is slow, but uses DMA, MMC reading yields a lot - once per block 22.18.46 # well, i'll be leaving. 22.18.49 # bye everyone. 22.18.59 Join matsl_ [0] (n=matsl@82.182.85.76) 22.19.24 Quit tim66 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22.20.48 # it's very possible that i've missed a thread-related issue in the playlist code 22.21.08 # i'll also check flush/reload in mpeg thread as that gets called when inserting tracks 22.21.54 Join _Veseliq_ [0] (n=veseliq@195.85.215.210) 22.22.20 Join Aghaster [0] (n=root@modemcable240.73-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) 22.23.50 Quit ender` (Connection timed out) 22.23.57 Quit l337dexter () 22.24.40 Quit matsl_ (Remote closed the connection) 22.24.51 # * petur wants the ability to merge bugreports 22.25.07 Quit Aghaster (Client Quit) 22.26.17 Join Aghaster [0] (n=Aghaster@modemcable240.73-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) 22.28.54 Join ender` [0] (i=useless@84.52.165.220) 22.29.20 Join lodesi_ [0] (n=moi@d04m-89-83-121-47.d4.club-internet.fr) 22.30.52 Quit SereR0KR ("XChat Aqua") 22.31.42 Join voyage34 [0] (i=voyage34@24-196-200-108.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com) 22.35.35 Quit ender (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.36.52 Part voyage34 22.40.15 Join webguest77 [0] (n=d81c7c22@labb.contactor.se) 22.40.35 Quit lodesi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.40.46 # what fonts support unicode encoding except unifont? 22.40.56 # i need esperanto characters to be displayed 22.41.13 Quit obo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.42.06 # anyone compared sound quality of original ipod firmware VS rockbox? playing the same file... 22.42.27 # german_snail: well, how can you hear the difference? 22.42.29 # i had both 22.42.39 # rockbox lets you play more formats 22.42.44 # and sound is good 22.42.56 # use your ears maybe 22.43.01 # well... 22.43.02 # my hear isn't able to notice difference..., well not with hearphones 22.43.27 # but i heard ogg format was better than mp3. i dont think apple firmware supports ogg, so you can have better sound 22.43.32 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 22.43.34 Join Aditya|Nap [0] (n=aditya@c-69-138-7-5.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 22.43.34 # you can also put lossless formats with rockbox 22.43.38 Part Aditya|Nap 22.44.08 # i can't really comment, they must be of similar qualities... but i just got a new album which i listened to on my hi-fi (great sound), then i played the same album with my ipod with rockbox and it sounded dismal 22.44.21 # ah 22.44.46 # (new album, ie. my first listen was with hi-fi) 22.45.13 # obviously it's gonna be better, but i didn't expect such a difference :p 22.45.19 # :P 22.45.28 # wish i had another ipod with original firmware so i could test for sure 22.45.29 # i really like rockbox 22.45.37 # with muh sweet studio headphones 22.45.42 # well, simply reboot in original firmware? 22.46.05 # how 22.46.10 # i haven't read much yet 22.46.31 Join BCMM [0] (n=BCMM@cpc3-oxfd1-0-0-cust912.oxfd.cable.ntl.com) 22.46.35 # if you did not remove the original firmware, try pressing menu _as fast as you can_ when it boot 22.46.53 # *blink* 22.47.02 # where is the manual for installing rockbox on an ipod? the manual doesn't seem to cover the bootloader 22.47.09 # so, middle button then menu simultaneously? 22.47.53 # hmmm why does the disk spin when you open the menu? 22.48.16 # petur? 22.48.32 # yes? 22.48.54 # you talking to me? 22.49.12 Join ender [0] (i=useless@84.52.165.220) 22.49.12 # oh 22.49.26 # lol 22.49.30 # :) 22.49.30 # nevermind 22.49.37 # can the ipod bootloader only be installed under Windows? 22.49.43 # BCMM: what OS? 22.49.46 # linux, mac, windows? 22.50.14 # Aghaster: i'm using linux, do i have to find a windows box to install the rockbox bootloader on an ipod? 22.50.18 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationFromLinux 22.50.20 # not at all. 22.50.31 # thanks, didn't see that page 22.50.35 # just read the instructions, and it does cover installation of boot loader :) 22.50.49 Join lodesi [0] (n=moi@d01v-89-83-166-105.d4.club-internet.fr) 22.50.54 # (i did use it and now i enjoy my ipod with rockbox) 22.51.30 # why do you have to compile? is that the bootloader of it's installer? 22.52.26 # compile? you do not need to compile 22.52.30 # oh 22.52.31 # yeah 22.52.37 # the small tool is needed 22.52.53 # oh ok, i was worried that was the loader rather then it's installer 22.52.55 # its needed to install the boot loader, thats what you need to compile 22.53.01 # that's ok 22.53.26 # its the program that will let you extract the original firmware and to install the bootloader 22.53.48 Quit Genre9mp3 ("Leaving") 22.54.10 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 22.54.35 Quit ender` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.57.28 Quit webguest77 ("CGI:IRC") 23.02.35 Join ender` [0] (i=useless@84.52.165.220) 23.03.43 Quit tvelocity ("Ex-Chat") 23.05.00 Quit bluey- ("Leaving") 23.05.28 Quit lodesi_ (Connection timed out) 23.08.15 # how do you run the apple firmware from the bootloader? i can't seem to get the key combination right 23.08.36 # hold down menu 23.08.39 # at least, on my nano 23.08.53 # hmm, from when? 23.08.58 # right from start 23.08.59 # when it's off 23.09.02 # just press and hold menu 23.09.09 # you press select and menu for five secs to reboot, right? 23.09.18 # hold down play for 5 to shut down 23.09.23 # that'll make getting it easier 23.09.30 # oh right, shutdown not reboot 23.09.32 # thanks a lot 23.09.34 # np 23.09.47 # hmmm, not working 23.09.58 # so once it's off, just press menu and hold it? 23.10.03 # yup 23.10.04 # i get into rockbox that way 23.10.18 # you're holding it all the way through the bootloader? 23.10.26 # yeah, from before it's on 23.10.39 # ah ok, got it 23.10.49 # thanks a lot 23.12.25 Quit ender (Connection timed out) 23.13.47 Quit Ribs ("Leaving") 23.14.21 Quit midkay (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.14.30 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@24.143.70.99) 23.14.51 Quit BCMM (Remote closed the connection) 23.15.51 Join kkurbjun [0] (n=44500eb9@labb.contactor.se) 23.17.36 # amiconn: I tried setting the lcd to standby mode as described in the specs.. 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