--- Log for 24.05.106 Server: clarke.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot- Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 29 days ago 00.00.57 # XavierGr_: You moved the scroll_speed member down within struct global_settings. When moving it back up, the delay vanishes... 00.01.15 # here's my settings for crossfade: enable crossfade-skip track , fadein duration-3secs , fadeout duration-3secs .. i'm i doing something wrong? 00.01.38 # Now someone please explain why *that* happens !! ?? ?:-/ 00.02.22 Quit ender` (" Hardware, n The part of the computer that you can kick.") 00.03.22 # anyone> 00.03.23 # ? 00.04.01 # Romanos: sorry, never used corssfade 00.04.20 # Romanos, what is the problem? 00.04.36 # it just don't do crossfade anymore.. 00.04.50 # Romanos: if you skip to the next track and it is not yet in the buffer, then no crossfade happens. 00.04.56 # works for me.. 00.04.57 # gotta run. 00.05.06 # PaulJam_, um, yes it does, for me.. 00.05.27 # i'm sure is got to do with the buffer,, 00.05.34 # * midkay_ shrugs 00.05.37 # is there any way to increase the buffer? 00.05.43 # might be a bug, my fadeout delay is like 8 seconds though. 00.05.50 # er, no, buffer is buffer.. 00.05.52 # anyways. bb. 00.05.53 Quit midkay_ ("Leaving") 00.05.56 # simple way to test that is skip to the previous track instead of next... 00.06.36 # the funny thing is , that i used it that way for months.. and now for some peculiar reason it stop doing it... 00.06.46 # wtf? 00.12.12 # i'm missing the whole picture here.. a 00.12.16 # Romanos: When did you last upgrade Rockbox? 00.12.31 # just.. 00.12.39 # I mean before now. 00.12.39 Quit Kohlrabi ("Fast alle Menschen sind Regenwürmer") 00.13.33 # it was one of the first builds for nano i reckon.. about march 00.13.59 # and it worked flawlessly!!! 00.14.34 # Romanos: Just to make sure there is no misunderstanding, do you want it to crossfade on every trackchange or only if you skip manually? 00.15.09 # what do u mean? 00.15.30 # skip manually , is when i'm just simply want to change track right? 00.15.53 # i'm pressing the damn button but there is no smooth transition anymore 00.16.18 Join JdGordon [0] (i=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 00.16.49 # gaaaaaaaaaaa 00.17.03 # ? 00.17.30 # did i blew it? 00.17.46 # * amiconn slaps petur 00.18.58 # ok forget about it 00.19.01 # i'm a jerk 00.19.33 # * amiconn has no idea about crossfade because he never uses it 00.20.42 # for me crossfade is the main reason i use Rockbox. 00.21.06 # yeah , same here... well not exactly.. main reason is flac :P 00.21.13 # i don't use crossfade... 00.21.49 # btw , just had to set the fade out mode in mix mode 00.22.47 # funny thing that always in the end we find the solutions to our problems by our owns :P 00.25.24 # this is ridiculous.. fu rockbox 00.26.37 # dunno why, but autochange directory is not working.. 00.26.46 # it makes the whole nano crash 00.26.47 # maybe you disabled that setting too 00.27.30 # when i'm enabling it, causes nano to crash and crossfade won't work... 00.27.41 # something's wrong with the nano buffer maybe? 00.28.58 # mikachu se gamw apo ton kwlo mwri gamiola 00.30.24 Join tom__ [0] (n=tom@81-6-242-27.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk) 00.30.35 Quit Romanos () 00.30.43 # see that is why i don't like him 00.30.52 # Erm, excuse me. I've just installed RockBox on my iRiver H340 and it's made it read only? 00.31.07 # And I'm just getting the error "no .rockbox directory" "installation incomplete" 00.33.15 # so, did you install it correctly? 00.33.50 # we've been trying to help in misticriver's chat 00.33.56 # we dont know what happened 00.34.18 # I patched the hex file, put it into root, ran the firmware upgrade 00.35.04 Quit ACK54W ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 00.35.18 # I put the .iriver file into root and it tried to run that 00.35.24 # failed and put me to a directory listing 00.35.44 # "the .iriver file" ? 00.35.52 # ah 00.35.59 # so you didn't install it correctly 00.36.13 # unzip a rockbox zip file to the root of your player 00.36.31 # How do I do that if the hard drive is read only for some reason? 00.36.46 # you on linux? 00.36.48 # yes 00.37.05 # it makes that when it detects serious enough file system errors 00.37.10 # check the logs 00.37.28 # I'd suggest a dosfsck or even a new mkfs 00.38.32 # would would I dosfsck it? 00.39.28 # hmm... 00.39.49 # it makes sense. dos file system check... gee... i wonder... 00.40.00 # "dosfsck - check and repair MS-DOS file systems" 00.40.15 # your problem is not because of rockbox 00.40.27 # but because of a broken fat fs 00.40.33 # well, what would the device be? 00.40.38 # /dev/.. ? 00.40.46 # /dev/sda1 style 00.40.51 # the same you mounted 00.41.00 # heh, it mounts it automatically :) 00.41.09 # well, use df to see then 00.41.13 # or mount 00.41.38 # [tom@localhost dev]$ /sbin/dosfsck /dev/sdc1 00.41.38 # dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN 00.41.38 # open /dev/sdc1:Permission denied 00.42.26 # but as I said, I recommend doing a whole fresh new fs anyway 00.42.37 # since dosfsck can't repair everything 00.42.50 # been there, done that 00.42.52 # right, how would I do that? 00.42.59 # any tutorials? 00.43.17 # 1) backup files you want to keep 00.43.20 # 2) su root 00.43.24 # Don't need to keep anything 00.43.30 # 3) mkdosfs -F 32 /dev/sdc1 00.43.53 # Ok, done 00.44.04 # now, remount and unzip again 00.44.40 # oh oops, 2.5) should probably have been unmount, but it was readonly so no matter 00.44.49 # I unmounted it 00.44.55 Quit wooo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.45.01 # hooray, a sentient one 00.45.01 # :) 00.45.14 # Ok, comes up with a Disc directory 00.45.17 # completly blank 00.45.36 # yes, you have nothing on the disk 00.46.01 # except for rockbox of course 00.46.39 # where's the splash code? 00.46.55 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m232.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 00.47.26 # nevermind 00.48.04 # Think it's worked now :) 00.48.36 # How do I rename it back to a H300 now, instead of "Disk" :) 00.48.51 Join jd_ [0] (n=jd@wikipedia/Meanos) 00.48.57 # heh, i don't know of a linux program that lets you change the label 00.49.07 # mkdosfs lets you specify it, if you want to reformat 00.49.19 # or you could just plug it in a windows computer 00.49.41 # there's a lable? ;-] 00.49.56 # but at the moment, rockbox eats disk labels anyway :) 00.49.59 # heh Bagder, welcome back :-) 00.50.06 # 'eats' ? 00.50.14 # they disappear sometimes 00.50.21 # a theory is it's related to deleting directories in / 00.50.27 # that's the last i heard 00.50.34 # Ah 00.50.53 # thanks Moos 00.51.02 # Rockbox is ugly! Just a directory listing. 00.51.26 # But anyway, thanks a lot Mikachu and Bagder, scared the life out of me when it all went read only. 00.51.37 # Bagder: did you recharge your batteries for the release rush? :-P 00.51.47 # tom__: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIriverH300 00.51.56 # Moos: noo I was hiding from it all ;-) 00.52.04 # haha :D 00.52.16 # Is anybody working on adding video support on the ipod? 00.52.34 # not that i know of 00.52.47 # :/ that would such a nice feature 00.52.50 # be* 00.53.01 # Meh. Why are people choosing highly confusing variable names?? 00.53.03 # and would blow ipodlinux people away. 00.53.24 # rockbox is primarily an audio player 00.53.25 # As a lot of people who try to install ipodlinux do it only for video lol 00.53.42 # well, those people wouldn't use rockbox anyway 00.53.43 # (notice the try, because lots of them will fail and cry) 00.54.02 Join mrweeee [0] (n=423908a3@labb.contactor.se) 00.54.20 # hey 00.54.24 # ipodlinux dioes video? 00.54.31 # yeah, badly, but it does 00.54.32 # uncompressed 00.54.52 # where can i find the current features of rockbox? 00.54.58 # How many seconds before the fat file size limit hits? 00.55.01 # if they can offer minimal video support, i guess rockbox programmers can manage to work it out too 00.55.13 # does rockbox do video? 00.55.26 # deja vu 00.55.26 # no 00.56.04 # Wrong, it does - on archos 00.56.23 # Bagder: do you know why the "all commits since 2.5" page doesn't working anymore? 00.56.24 # yeah, but i was speaking of ipod. 00.56.35 # Moos: no, I didn't know it didn't 00.56.39 # * amiconn wonders where wett vanished 00.56.52 # Moos: I'll check into that 00.56.56 # mrweeee: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WhyRockbox 00.57.06 # Bagder: OK, thanks 00.58.26 # What WPS do you people use? :) 00.58.53 # * Moos reuse his h1xx one : ) 00.59.12 # for his X5 00.59.12 Quit mrweeee ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.59.52 # i've noticed rockbox eats my ipod battery a lot more than original firmware. are there any tips to make it last longer? 00.59.52 # tom__: did you checked the gallery yet? 01.00.00 # yeah been having a look 01.00.09 # Seen 3 I like 01.00.21 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 01.00.36 # better to do your own, in regard the infos you want displayed 01.00.56 # hi midkay 01.01.00 # Any changes on the AAC front? 01.01.07 # hey Moos 01.01.38 # bagh, cvs diff says "NO YOU BITCH" to me. 01.02.17 # I'm guessing there's no options for bass and treble now? 01.02.21 # wow lostlogic you are alive O.O :-P 01.02.36 # Moos: hehe, been busy of late 01.02.47 # just kinding :) 01.03.38 # less than one week for fix your playback code, that's quick 01.03.48 # meh 01.03.59 # meh, works fine for me :-D 01.04.25 # tom__: hold navi while you are in the wps, there you find the soundsettings 01.04.34 # Why would moving a struct member cause a significant timing change of the whole application??? 01.04.45 # Ta PaulJam_ 01.04.50 # As for the WPS, I like this one > http://www.misticriver.net/showpost.php?p=386193&postcount=50 01.05.01 # It says backdrop support needed, do I need something extra for that? 01.05.40 # lostlogic: yeah it appears quite stable for me too, just occasional bugs 01.05.47 # ok next sime Romanos enters here I propose to ban him 01.05.51 # Moos: what bugs still strike you? 01.06.34 # We really should ban him, even if he is from the same coutnry as me he deserves it. 01.07.05 # XavierGr_: what did he say about me earlier? 01.07.13 # oh man, I'm not having fun with rockbox 01.07.17 # you can imagine it.... 01.07.20 # it's crashed while playing a song and I can't turn it off O_o 01.07.22 # heh 01.07.33 # lostlogic: still occasionaly 2 buffer filing for same tracks+those negative values in debug audio 01.07.37 # tom__: what player? 01.07.41 # h340 01.07.46 # then reset it 01.07.55 # where is that heh 01.07.58 # bottom 01.07.59 # that the middle hole at the bottom? 01.08.00 # small tiny hole 01.08.04 # you'll need a pin or somethin 01.08.20 # on h300 the reset is under the microphone 01.08.51 # ah well played 01.09.06 # I would be very happy to ban him myself. Just to see that he got baned by me! :D 01.09.18 # anyway time to say moo, good night at all 01.09.26 # Yeah anyway, it said "backdrop support needed" 01.09.28 Quit Moos ("Gloire à Rockbox !") 01.09.33 # does that mean I need something extra? 01.09.41 # backdrops are supported 01.12.00 # how do I change WPS then? :) 01.12.04 # windows command line ool to eject usb drive (ipod)? 01.13.39 # barhg 01.13.41 # sleep time 01.13.43 # later 01.14.35 # good night, I'm also going to sleep 01.15.32 # tom__: you should try to find more info on your own in the wiki and the manual 01.16.09 # I'm looking in the manual, it tells me how to make a WPS xD 01.16.27 # good :) 01.17.00 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=Yngwiejo@dsl-88-218-17-158.customers.vivodi.gr) 01.17.47 # I was just reading the logs.....XavierGr, I totaly agree withyou... 01.18.10 # XavierGr_: the new splash messages in the minesweeper plugin sound strange to me (1) I think the tense should be present or perfect (maybe a native speaker could give advice) (2) I don't know why it says 'press a key' since it vanishes after 2s and the menu comes up 01.22.21 # I mean without pressing something 01.24.11 # pixelma: what do you mean it vanishes after 2s? Even if you don't press a key? 01.25.12 # this was in addition to the splash screen question I started before 01.25.35 # markun, I just don't get it dude sorry, I've read the manual 01.25.44 # I copied the theme files to the unit 01.25.51 # but they don't show up in browse themes 01.26.06 # you want the cfg file in .rockbox/themes and the wps file in .rockbox/wps 01.26.21 # Ah, there was no cfg files :\ 01.27.14 # Looks like I've been robbed here 01.27.18 # heh 01.27.25 # someone stoled my cfg files! 01.27.28 # copy one of the other ones and change the wps reference in it 01.28.28 # Hmm which font to use ;) 01.29.22 # maybe the blurb on the wpsgallery said something about that 01.29.27 # tom__: try snap 01.29.46 # if it's one of the fancier themes it probably has to be the exact one 01.30.21 # http://www.misticriver.net/showpost.php?p=386193&postcount=50 01.30.25 # I want that one! 01.30.44 # now, are you sure you want that one? you always said you don't like anime wpses 01.30.57 # I didn't say ought 01.31.01 # I've never been here before! :p 01.31.18 # that was a little britain reference heh 01.31.26 # oh ok ;) 01.31.29 # I never really watched it heh 01.31.40 Quit obo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.32.07 # I made the cfg file 01.32.11 # but no text shows now haha 01.35.24 # crap. 01.35.39 # There's some rather odd dependency problem... 01.41.02 Join tom\alive [0] (n=tom@84.12.163.202) 01.41.08 # hello again 01.42.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.45.57 Quit Poka64 ("time for sleep") 01.45.59 Part scottder 01.49.11 Nick postglow is now known as multiglow (n=d9092244@labb.contactor.se) 01.50.51 Join Jd|uni [0] (n=82c20d66@labb.contactor.se) 01.51.10 # hi/re, I made a check out 10 hours ago on rockbox-devel, works well, but now I'm making another one an I get "(...) /cvsroot/rockbox-devel: no such repository". 01.51.51 # hey all 01.52.12 # eeek... 3 Jd's :p 01.52.22 # :) 01.54.33 # * amiconn is totally confoozled now 01.54.52 # Why oh why does this delay not occur with default settings?!?!?!?!?!?! 01.54.55 # (hum, stupid error on my side, forgive me) 01.57.25 Quit tom__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.06.50 # hmm... does repeat-one mode still rebuffer every filebuflen? 02.06.57 # or does it know to just keep playnig the same physical track 02.12.04 # I think it still rebuffers 02.12.31 # The playback engine doesn't know that it's always the same track. The playlist code handles it 02.12.58 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@84.254.36.28) 02.13.10 # I wouldn't care too much, as it complicates the playback engine for a usage case that's rather uncommon 02.18.57 # * lostlogic has been listening to the same song for about 2.5 hours :-P 02.19.04 # I'm special. 02.19.53 # Well, if you would add a sepcial case for that, you would need to special-case the special case, 02.20.11 # in case the single track doesn't fit into the buffer as a whole 02.20.45 # okokok, not this year. 02.21.02 # A propos doesn't fit the buffer - isn't there still an out-of-buffer seek problem? 02.21.30 # i think there is a seeking backwards out of the buffer problem still 02.27.16 Quit jd_ () 02.28.29 Quit yuriks ("Lost terminal") 02.31.29 # Hmm, how come the LCD doesn't turn off when it's plugged in? 02.34.14 # how goes everyone? 02.34.27 # not good, the screen won't turn off when charging! :@ 02.34.35 Quit mikearthur ("Konversation terminated!") 02.35.06 # ohes noes!! 02.35.14 # coz u prob have that option set so it doesnt.. 02.35.22 # tom\alive: wjat player? 02.35.25 # h340 02.35.33 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 02.35.35 Join Sinbios [0] (n=Sinbios@Kingston-HSE-ppp3561635.sympatico.ca) 02.35.47 # when you charge it with the original fw? 02.35.53 # with rockbox 02.35.59 # it turned off with original fw 02.36.36 # So the backlight setting is turned to On , I guess 02.36.57 # that makes so much sense 02.37.04 # :) 02.37.22 # If I turn the unit on, then plug it in 02.37.28 # the backlight goes off 02.37.33 # but if I just plug the unit in 02.37.39 # the backlight stays on 02.38.21 # check your settings 02.38.39 # Backlight (when plugged in) is set to off 02.38.48 # which if the unit is turned on, then plugged in 02.38.57 # you get the USB picture 02.39.03 # and the backlight goes off 02.39.36 # tom\alive: when you just plug in the charger while the unit is off you get the original fw... 02.39.39 # but if I turn the unit off, and plug it in, the backlight stays on 02.40.03 # there is a setting in the original fw you have to change 02.41.58 # "Bootloader USB mode" is just displayed on the screen 02.42.40 # You try to charge from the usb cable? 02.44.51 # I've got both plugged into my dock 02.45.25 Join scottder [0] (n=sdexter@ip70-188-142-96.ri.ri.cox.net) 02.45.51 Part XavierGr_ 02.45.54 # Putting it into the dock is like putting the charger and the usb cable at the same time... 02.46.02 # yeah, exactly 02.46.14 # So this gets you to Bootloader USB mode" 02.46.34 # just remove the usb cable from behind of the dock 02.46.44 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp119-144.adsl.forthnet.gr) 02.46.54 # if you just want to charge it... 02.47.06 # this will boot to the original fw 02.47.16 # * scottder needs to rerip some albums, some are only in aac 02.47.39 # Ah yeah, nice :) 02.48.00 # Only thing with this is rockbox runs a bit slow/lagged 02.50.03 # pixelma: No, after the splash message the screen shows the entire board solved and waits for a button press. 02.50.22 # but in case it doesn't please inform me. 02.50.41 # amiconn: what was the bug on ondios in the end? 02.50.42 Quit steveb (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.51.01 # Odd, right before it aborts...rockbox reports that the file I have is ALAC. not regular lossy AAC...odd 02.51.08 Quit slarti (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.53.49 Join steveb [0] (i=steve@pan.object4.net) 02.54.02 # XavierGr: it doesn't do so for me (I've got an Ondio and my version is 060523-1203) 02.54.07 Join slarti [0] (i=slarti@gentoo/developer/slarti) 02.54.34 # pixelma: strange I just tested it on my H300. 02.54.39 # it returns to the menu 02.55.22 # are you sure? play lose and wait for the splash, dont press anything. 02.56.34 Join joshk [0] (i=joshk@zydeco.triplehelix.org) 02.56.41 # can anyone help with installing rockbox on a 4g ipod? 02.56.51 # i've got it going to the splash screen, but it just sits there 02.57.07 # XavierGr: this is what I did - I tried it a few times (when winning it was the same) 02.57.25 # really strange... 02.57.36 # let me test on the ondio sim 03.04.08 # pixelma: you are right. I know the cause for this. 03.04.35 # On ondios the key to unveil a tile is Hold button mode 03.05.04 # while holding and then releasing an extra button is queued so that's why you never see the other screen. 03.06.49 # ok, it would be nice if you could get it working then :) 03.08.09 # yes I will try. :) 03.08.27 # got to go to sleep, good luck! 03.08.59 # bye 03.09.11 Quit pixelma (" good night") 03.10.14 Join pjo [0] (n=pjo@i58-94-247-217.s02.a022.ap.plala.or.jp) 03.10.18 # Hello! 03.10.33 # I got a problem 03.10.50 # I deleted .rockbox and rockbox.ipod to reinstall 03.11.28 # do I just copy the .rockbox and rockbox.ipod to iPod ? 03.11.45 # yes 03.12.06 # or do I need to redo ipodpatcher ? 03.12.58 # Xavier: Hello 03.14.00 # can I see the rockboot.bin from Windows ? 03.14.01 # no you just need to put the folder and the file on root 03.14.45 # pjo: I don't know about details but if you just want to upgrade to a newer build (assuming you have rockbox running) all you do is replace those 2 things 03.15.34 # ok the problem looks like is in Loader 2.3 of ipodlinux, when RockBox is selected, error 03.16.33 # pjo: sorry I can't help. Look for someone tha has an ipod 03.16.51 # bien sur 03.19.05 Quit dpro (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.21.45 # west side story! 03.28.36 Quit hardeep ("[BX] Reserve your copy of BitchX-1.0c19 for the PalmPilot today!") 03.35.23 Join Genre9mp3_ [0] (n=Yngwiejo@dsl-88-218-17-158.customers.vivodi.gr) 03.42.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.52.00 Quit Genre9mp3 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.02.37 # hehe, flac support owns. 04.03.09 # with my 60gig ipod i have plenty space to encode all my albums in flac to listen to it in original quality :) 04.03.23 # of course, the DAC isn't near good enough for you to hear the difference, but :) 04.03.31 # DAC? 04.03.57 # well i guess that playing it through my ipod station may give me better sound 04.04.12 # :P 04.04.36 # well, the sound is somehow "purer" but the difference is hard to hear, i agree 04.05.10 # digital to analog converter 04.05.20 # i wonder if the ipod has digital output 04.05.23 # you know, some people still buy vinyls because they say the sound quality is better than audio CDs 04.05.24 # and if the station is doing the conversion 04.05.43 # aghaster: not better, they just like the particular distortion effect 04.05.50 # ok 04.06.30 # I know some people who actually refuse to buy an mp3 player because of lossy compression 04.06.41 # Some people do feel the difference 04.07.30 # other people, like me, listen to the music instead 04.07.48 # :) 04.07.55 # :P 04.08.42 # i wonder what bitrate techno music might be. 04.09.03 # flac encodes what's to be encoded, not 1411kbps only 04.09.05 # so i can see 04.09.24 Quit Genre9mp3_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.12.52 Nick XavierGr is now known as XavierGr_ (n=XavierGr@ppp119-144.adsl.forthnet.gr) 04.22.06 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp119-144.adsl.forthnet.gr) 04.22.33 Join egotrippen [0] (n=4616e93b@labb.contactor.se) 04.24.30 Quit Jd|uni ("CGI:IRC") 04.25.40 Join jpmahala [0] (n=45221b43@labb.contactor.se) 04.25.59 Join Farpnut [0] (n=solo84@cm65.sigma6.maxonline.com.sg) 04.26.19 Quit jpmahala (Client Quit) 04.27.36 Quit egotrippen ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 04.27.57 Quit macdonalder ("bye bye ;D") 04.29.00 Quit pjo (" Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 04.29.52 Quit flamingcow (Remote closed the connection) 04.31.12 Part XavierGr 04.31.22 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp119-144.adsl.forthnet.gr) 04.37.50 Quit Farpenoodle (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.38.29 # I have been quite pleased encoding at Q3 and Q5 in ogg vorbis... 04.39.27 Quit XavierGr (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Leading Edge IRC") 04.39.47 Nick XavierGr_ is now known as XavierGr (n=XavierGr@ppp119-144.adsl.forthnet.gr) 04.46.42 Quit tvelocity ("Ex-Chat") 04.52.09 Join Febs [0] (n=medifebb@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 05.03.48 Join Rob2222_ [0] (n=Miranda@ACB183D2.ipt.aol.com) 05.04.41 Part joshk 05.12.05 Quit PaulJam_ (".") 05.14.30 Join gtkspert_ [0] (n=gtkspert@203-166-230-249.dyn.iinet.net.au) 05.20.26 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05.29.03 Quit gtkspert (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.29.10 # I'm getting an error when trying to register with teh [atch tracker. ANY HELP? 05.33.28 Quit Farpnut (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.34.03 Join Farpnut [0] (n=solo84@cm65.sigma6.maxonline.com.sg) 05.42.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.48.49 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 05.49.15 # Are all the build servers running the exact same GCC versions? 05.59.14 Quit TeaSea ("Leaving") 06.00.51 Join dj-fu [0] (n=deejay@202-169-220-71.worldnet.co.nz) 06.06.13 Join Scott1998 [0] (n=18380459@labb.contactor.se) 06.16.01 Quit mikearthur (Connection reset by peer) 06.18.16 Quit Scott1998 ("CGI:IRC") 06.29.54 Join Farpenoodle [0] (n=solo84@cm65.sigma6.maxonline.com.sg) 06.48.23 Part Paul_The_Nerd 06.49.30 Quit lostnihilist (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 06.50.54 Quit Farpnut (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.51.29 Join Farpnut [0] (n=solo84@cm65.sigma6.maxonline.com.sg) 07.01.36 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 07.03.48 Quit Farpenoodle (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.07.38 Quit multiglow ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 07.09.28 Quit Farpnut ("Large sacks of cheese") 07.11.17 Quit Prot (Excess Flood) 07.11.53 Join Prot [0] (i=mixup@ip70-162-10-125.ph.ph.cox.net) 07.12.19 Part Prot 07.40.19 # XavierGr: I still don't know exactly - your moving of general_settings.scroll_speed triggers it, but that can't be the true root cause... 07.42.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.49.37 Join muesli|delhi [0] (n=muesli_t@125.23.22.88) 07.54.05 Part Paul_The_Nerd 07.57.09 # Ok, *now* I know what really happens :) 07.58.45 # Slasheri is the one to blame, and the code snippet causing the problem is fairly old, and could potentially hit all bitmap targets 08.03.45 # amiconn: hmm, what did you found? :) 08.04.03 # Could it be related to the freezes some people seem to be experiencing at the splash screen? 08.04.05 # main.c:init_tagcache() has a bug 08.04.28 # ah, that sounds good (so it can be fixed) 08.04.44 # If tagcache_is_initialized() immediately returns 'true', font_w and font_h don't get initialised, 08.05.18 # so the lcd_fillrect() after tagtree_init(); may fill just about anything 08.05.30 # oh, interesting 08.05.44 # On my Ondio, font_h became something around 16 million 08.06.00 # Luckily the lcd code does clipping... 08.07.11 # hmm, could that cause any more serious problems or does it just show some garbage on the screen 08.07.16 # I wanted to tackle that function anyway some time ago, because of the logo overdraw on archos recorders & ondios, and the absolute lack of feedback on the player 08.07.22 # at least it seems to be trivial to fix 08.07.33 # It doesn't show garbage - it just clears the whole screen 08.07.38 # ah, ok 08.08.43 # preglow suggested using a splash(), because on smaller lcds the message is truncated 08.08.51 # (that includes the h1x0) 08.09.07 # The playlist insertion progress also uses a splash 08.09.16 # that sounds good.. i will try that soon 08.09.30 # Don't bother, I'll fix that function 08.09.43 # ah, ok. thanks :) 08.09.58 # You could try to fix the nasty tagcache bug I reported multiple times. It's still there... 08.10.27 # yep, i will.. but i have been quite busy with work lately and i have no idea what causes that issue :/ 08.11.00 # Somehow tagcache seems to overwrite the browser's buffer, without notifying it 08.11.08 # i have checked the commit memory allocation a few times now, but probably it still has a bug somewhere 08.11.14 # So the browser gets severely confused 08.15.11 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@fhrouter83.fh-wuerzburg.de) 08.19.51 # hey, re the message on the mailing list... could the tag and tree browsers be merged? so as the root of the browser you could have artists, tracks, etc, and then the music folder which acts like the regular browser? 08.23.04 # that would be a sweet idea. 08.23.12 # Not that easily 08.23.23 # cause then the drag'n'drop filebrowser dudes would be happy, and the tag browser dudes would be happy 08.23.34 # The idea exists to make the tag browser a virtual sub-dir of the root 08.23.48 # that would work also 08.24.40 # You can't just put the tagbrowser's Artist etc dirs into the root, because a user may have an actual directory named like that 08.25.30 # So the names must be made special, which can be achieved by using angle brackets 08.26.14 # But then, file browser users would get annoyed by the number of virtual dirs added by tagcache 08.26.35 # One single virtual dir would be less annoying I think 08.27.53 # for sure 08.30.46 Quit dj-fu ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 08.31.03 # Slasheri: Now that is strange: I modified init_tagcache to use a splash. It seems that the part inside the while() loop is always executed. But if it is - what could bring font_h so far out of range? 08.31.30 Quit german_snail (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.31.39 # hmm 08.32.39 # tagcache_get_commit_step() seems to immediately return 10 if there's nothing to do 08.33.14 # then it has a bug 08.33.56 # Ah, no 08.34.17 # My fault - and it explains the weird font_h in the old function 08.36.36 Join infamis [0] (n=40518b28@labb.contactor.se) 08.44.19 # 404 on since25.html...any way to view all commits? 08.45.07 # Slasheri: The tagcache weirdness only happens on swcodec targets. On hwcodec, I can browse tagcache directly after commit 08.45.36 # hmm, weird 08.45.39 # infamis: Try google's cached version: http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:70GR-bFT4tgJ:www.rockbox.org/since25.html+%22all+commits+since+2.5%22&hl=en&gl=uk&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=firefox 08.45.50 # I'm guessing that's related to the same problem that viewcvs is having.... 08.45.58 # * amiconn has got to fix another Slasheri bug before 3.0 :/ 08.46.03 # i still don't understand how the committing at boot could touch the dir browser buffer 08.46.46 # and if i understood correctly, the dirtree buffer is even allocated after the commit.. 08.50.12 # My new tagcache commit msg (using splash) is working nicely on bitmap targets. I'll test my charcell version, then commit... 08.50.51 # linuxstb, what problem is viewcvs having? seems to be working to me 08.51.36 # The player version won't use splash (because the 'Committing tagcache...' sring is alreay longer than what fits the display), but use the second line of the display for a super-short counter display 08.52.38 # sounds nice 08.54.05 # The splash() uses the user font, so if someone needs a big font for readability, there's one problem less. It also cuts down code size. 08.55.35 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 08.56.26 # infamis: Some files are not being displayed correctly, or at all in some cases. 08.58.38 Join lostnihilist [0] (n=james@wireless-224-58.uchicago.edu) 09.00.38 Join dj-fu [0] (n=deejay@202-89-151-155.ubs.qsi.net.nz) 09.04.20 Join Acksaw [0] (n=Acksaw@spc1-stok5-0-0-cust770.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) 09.05.48 Join ender` [0] (i=useless@84.52.165.220) 09.06.32 Join petur [0] (n=d4efd6a6@labb.contactor.se) 09.13.23 # how nice.. i was just called from american express... do they know im 21 and jobless?? 09.14.03 # they don't care, they only want your money 09.14.32 # no but its pointless.. coz even if i did want a credit card.. there is no way they would give me one anyway 09.21.22 # Hmm... perhaps it's possible to speed up the initial tagcache scan... 09.21.55 # Our metadata reading functions are probably not very optimised, because the yused to be used for a few tracks at a time 09.22.14 # With tagcache, they're used for a ton of tracks at a time... 09.25.11 # hmm, that sounds like very possible to do. iirc at least mp3 metadata parser searches for header by reading one byte at time. That can't be very effective 09.25.28 # *efficient 09.25.51 # Indeed... and it hits archos most 09.26.18 # (because of the slow cpu and because practically all tracks on archos have to be mpeg audio) 09.27.40 # and tagcache recursive scan should be replaced with the dircache code somehow.. and pass the file startcluster to open even when dircache is not available at all 09.27.59 # that should speed up the initial scan by 50% at least on archos 09.29.11 Join Zagor [0] (n=bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 09.29.31 Quit xNibbler ("i wish more people would conform to stereotypes so I could be more racist") 09.30.58 Quit Rick (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.34.28 # funny site: http://www.idont.com/ 09.34.37 # mmmeeehhhh 09.35.12 Join dpro [0] (n=x@chello080109121047.8.15.vie.surfer.at) 09.36.55 Quit lostnihilist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.37.29 # * amiconn spots petur 09.37.52 # petur: Please check tree.c:890ff 09.38.13 # What did you do to the else... part of the if() ? 09.38.42 # Right now we don't have a unit which has both colour display and hotswap defined, but we probably will 09.38.44 # (h300) 09.40.48 # woops, missed that else hidden behind that #ifdef :( 09.42.02 # Should be sufficient to move the #ifdef HAVE_LCD_COLOR block below the other one 09.42.08 # hmmm, that code was wrong in the first place 09.42.08 # yet another reason to split all the code into modules 09.42.12 # instead of #ifdefing 3984732984 things 09.42.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.42.36 # dongs: not entirely true 09.42.37 # dongs: You simply can't avoid all ifdefs 09.42.51 # dongs: code sharing 09.43.38 # Many modules are shared between multiple or all targets, but need slight adaptions to the target's features 09.43.39 # amiconn: the initial backdrop code there was already wrong 09.44.22 # amiconn: see version 1.402 09.44.59 # Hmm, so there's someone else to blame... 09.45.16 # I just spotted that while hunting for the mysterious screen clear on Ondio 09.45.18 # bbl 09.46.55 # Bagder, Zagor: cvs activity time stamps are still wrong... 09.48.08 # Maybe that's also related to the viewcvs weirdness? 09.48.24 # * amiconn doesn't know how the script for the webpages collects this info 09.50.03 Join Rick [0] (i=rick@pool-71-108-2-183.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 09.50.05 Join shadou [0] (n=deejay@202-89-151-29.ubs.qsi.net.nz) 09.50.21 Quit dj-fu (Nick collision from services.) 09.50.23 Nick shadou is now known as dj-fu (n=deejay@202-89-151-29.ubs.qsi.net.nz) 09.50.29 Part dj-fu 09.50.30 Join dj-fu [0] (n=deejay@202-89-151-29.ubs.qsi.net.nz) 09.52.22 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-121-235.VIC.netspace.net.au) 09.59.13 Quit infamis ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 10.09.35 # w00t 10.10.01 # * petur got a nice salary raise :) drinks on the house :) 10.10.09 # congrats 10.10.32 # petur: What was the backdrop problem? (congratulations as well) 10.11.05 # the code was placed inbetween and if/else construct 10.11.16 # *an 10.12.01 # Ah, I see it now. That's why I hate if() statements without braces... 10.12.14 # me too 10.12.34 # But that might not have helped there anyway.... 10.12.41 # Still, good spot amiconn. 10.12.49 # I also like braces below the if, not behind them where they get out of view 10.13.25 # And apologies for the mistake. 10.14.03 # he who doesn't write bugs shall throw the first stone 10.14.20 # * petur writes plenty 10.31.16 Quit dj-fu ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 10.58.35 Join XavierGr_ [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp122-124.adsl.forthnet.gr) 10.58.49 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.03.09 Nick gtkspert_ is now known as gtkspert (n=gtkspert@203-166-230-249.dyn.iinet.net.au) 11.16.03 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.21.29 Join hannesd_ [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 11.28.11 Quit hannesd (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.37.35 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=Yngwiejo@dsl-88-218-17-158.customers.vivodi.gr) 11.37.42 Quit Febs (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.42.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.43.15 # * amiconn prefers single-line if() statements without braces, but always puts braces on their own line for blocks 11.43.55 # * petur dares to put the statements behind the if() 11.44.44 Join german_snail [0] (n=s@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za) 11.46.50 # single line unbraced if()s, braces on the same line as the if and uncuddled else statements. That's how I uhh.. roll... 11.48.13 # people who use indenting to determine where code belongs to should stick with python :P 11.48.42 # * amiconn prefers proper indentation 11.48.51 # Well it's hard not to when you use 8 space tabs. 11.49.28 # sure, and use notepad as editor ;) 11.49.29 Quit `3nergy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.51.03 # petur dares to put the statements behind the if() <- if the staements following isnt too long then i rekon that is better than chucking it on the next line... 11.51.10 # tab chars have nothing to do in C source... and indenting by 8 spaces is way too much 11.51.39 Join Poka64 [0] (i=peter@hd5e241c0.gavlegardarna.gavle.to) 11.53.55 # ahh! more than one contiguous space is blasphemy! ;) 11.54.26 Part steveb ("##uk - The brits still rule the world") 11.55.17 # "Now, some people will claim that having 8-character indentations makes the code move too far to the right, and makes it hard to read on a 80-character terminal screen. The answer to that is that if you need more than 3 levels of indentation, you're screwed anyway, and should fix your program." 11.55.33 # ok, i just played a track on my h300 and it paused about 4 times through the track for a fraction of a second.... dud track or something else? 11.56.03 # 3 levels?? thats nothing... and 8 chars IS way too much 11.56.22 # source: http://www.chris-lott.org/resources/cstyle/LinuxKernelCodingStyle.txt 11.56.34 # ah ok.. makes sense.. 11.56.36 # yeah, let the coding style flame wars begin 11.56.40 # they are commys :D 11.56.54 # worse, kapitalists! 11.57.42 # * petur shouldnt mix languages and learn to type 11.57.57 # yay! anywho, that's actually listed as a style guide for ipodlinux, just so patches that we get don't fall too far off the deep end. 11.58.20 # i disagree with both the first 2 statements on that page :D 11.59.05 # crazy emacs users are the worst, with mixed spaces and tabs. They need to be shot. 11.59.09 # "Rationale: K&R. " <- br-freeking-vo 12.01.00 Join `3nergy [0] (n=3nergy@techgaming.net) 12.02.10 # oh god 12.02.12 # mixed spaces and tabs 12.02.17 # that's a sin 12.02.17 # I've come to accept most styles without complaint as long as it still resembles c in some fashion. 12.02.19 # pure and simple 12.02.24 # * courtc agrees. 12.02.34 # so it's emacs doing that....... 12.02.42 # hunking pile of shit it is 12.06.10 Join anathema [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust696.belf.cable.ntl.com) 12.07.43 Quit german_snail (Nick collision from services.) 12.07.52 Join german_snail [0] (n=s@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za) 12.08.07 # who knows how album art works for original ipod firmware? 12.09.29 Quit Sinbios ("If the definition of a klutz is someone who doesn't have eyes on their ass, then yes, I suppose I am a klutz.") 12.14.18 # lunch! 12.27.51 Quit Poka64 ("XChat 2.6.1") 12.30.50 Join chang [0] (n=chang@AAmiens-157-1-159-238.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) 12.32.15 Join TeaSea [0] (n=Thunderc@lonsdale.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 12.41.12 Quit Daishi ("Client exiting...") 12.41.58 Join Spacksaw [0] (n=Acksaw@spc1-stok5-0-0-cust770.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) 12.48.43 Join Moos [0] (i=DrMoos@m232.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 12.48.58 Join Poka64 [0] (i=peter@hd5e241c0.gavlegardarna.gavle.to) 12.50.48 Quit `3nergy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.51.59 Quit ender` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.52.00 Quit Moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.52.00 Join Lynx [0] (n=lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 12.52.03 Join ender [0] (i=useless@84.52.165.220) 12.52.03 Join DrMoos [0] (i=DrMoos@m232.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 12.53.36 Join Genre9mp3_ [0] (n=Yngwiejo@dsl-88-218-17-158.customers.vivodi.gr) 12.58.12 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3087.gwdg.de) 13.03.22 # hi, is someone here using the albun art patch with a h300 and has a non lcd remote? 13.04.28 Nick DrMoos is now known as Moos (i=DrMoos@m232.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 13.08.05 Quit Acksaw (Connection timed out) 13.08.24 Join Acksaw [0] (n=Acksaw@spc1-stok5-0-0-cust770.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) 13.08.49 Quit Lynx_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.08.50 Nick Lynx is now known as Lynx_ (n=lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 13.08.54 Quit Spacksaw (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.13.28 Quit Genre9mp3 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.14.39 Nick Genre9mp3_ is now known as Genre9mp3 (n=Yngwiejo@dsl-88-218-17-158.customers.vivodi.gr) 13.15.38 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 13.25.34 Quit novimon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.28.17 Join `3nergy [0] (n=3nergy@techgaming.net) 13.29.17 # there is a really weird bug with the album art patch: the wps shows album art and the non lcd remote is connected, the year of the rtc gets set to 1999 within a few minutes. 13.29.32 # (on h300) 13.29.38 # wtf? 13.31.15 Quit `3nergy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.32.54 # another strange thing is, that the lock icon of the remote appears from time to time for a few milliseconds while in the wps (if it has albumart) when the non lcd remote is connected 13.33.00 # What can I do to get rockbox to run faster? 13.33.05 # It runs really sluggish atm :\ 13.33.23 # tom\alive: enable dircache 13.33.31 # heh ok 13.34.06 # tom\alive: then the hdd doesn't spin up everytime you enter the browser 13.34.42 Join `3nergy [0] (n=3nergy@techgaming.net) 13.35.23 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@124.60.10.75) 13.35.34 # ok, what about that database thing aswell? 13.36.08 # i don't use the db 13.36.29 # Ah, it's turned off anyway 13.37.54 # how do you get it to just play all songs within subdirectories 13.38.04 # I've got a folder for 2006 music, I want it to play all music within the subfolders 13.38.32 # add it to a playlist and set playlist insertion to recursive 13.38.46 # PaulJam: Confirmed about the hold remote icon, the rtc thing though doesn't happen to me 13.39.10 # hello 13.39.13 # hmm... torx.. 13.39.25 # Jungti1234: hi 13.39.30 # what about torx? 13.39.57 # I can't find its driver. 13.40.21 # can't find the right screwdriver? 13.41.10 # yes 13.41.29 # still havnt got it open aye? 13.42.03 # :'( yes 13.42.14 # drill the screws out :D 13.42.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.42.25 # kkk 13.42.32 Quit gtkspert (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.42.32 # hmm 13.42.53 # E10 screw is so small. 13.43.10 # any1 know how to use sed? 13.44.09 # http://www.gnu.org/software/sed/manual/sed.html 13.44.21 # im looking at that.. really not much help 13.44.34 Join steveb__ [0] (i=steve@pan.object4.net) 13.44.44 # Genre9mp3: strange, i can reproduce the year problem here. as soon a the remote icon begins to flicker the rtc-year tag disappears. 13.45.28 # i need convert a word to uppercase.. im hinted to but the word on the hold buffer... well i can get the word fine from regexp.. but how do i put it on the hold buffer? 13.45.30 # * petur wonders if this is all related to the retailos config corruption 13.46.37 Quit steveb__ (Client Quit) 13.47.43 Quit Moos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.49.14 Join steveb__ [0] (i=steve@pan.object4.net) 13.52.55 Join jd_ [0] (n=jd@wikipedia/Meanos) 13.52.57 # re 13.53.06 # * amiconn has a vague idea what *might* happen. Unfortunately that's a hard one to test... 13.53.43 # um.. 13.53.46 # PaulJam: The wps you test on has a year tag? mine doesn't 13.54.04 # I sought it during 2 hours... 13.54.26 # Perhaps tomorrow, there may be it in the shop. :) 13.54.48 # Genre9mp3: i have made a test-wps that has basically only album art and the tag %cd.m.Yc 13.55.35 # Did you try with one that doesn't have the year tag to see if it also goes to 1999? 13.56.02 # markun 13.56.05 Quit steveb__ (Client Quit) 13.57.50 # Genre9mp3: yes, i observed the same thing with my normal wps, that doesn't have a rtc-year tag 14.00.05 # strange, I repeated the test several times and the rtc is ok 14.00.33 # I wonder why this happens only with the non lcd remote... 14.03.14 Quit midkay ("Leaving") 14.07.12 # Genre9mp3: i don't know if it happens _only_ with non lcd, but thats the only remote i have 14.08.51 Quit gromit` (Remote closed the connection) 14.09.48 # PaulJam: With an H300 LCD Remote doen't do this flickering on the hold icon... 14.10.20 # though, the moment I conect it, it instantly appear and then disappear 14.10.28 Join theli_ua [0] (n=theli@c.204.177.a408.dyn.adsl.cyfra.net) 14.10.37 # This flickering lock icon was reported several times. I can't test, since I only have a H100 remote 14.10.43 # but never show up again like with the non lcd remote 14.11.36 # I never noticed that before because when I use the remote, usually it's connected before I start the unit... 14.12.38 # amiconn: this doesn't happen with an H100 LCD Remote? 14.13.12 # It was only reported with the H300 non-lcd remote 14.13.22 # There a list of plugins anywhere? 14.13.31 # But then, I'm not a remote user. I only use the remote for development 14.13.46 # tom\alive: check the wiki 14.14.00 # and the manual 14.14.08 # ta 14.14.38 # ah hmm, I'm looking for a plugin more for sound quality 14.15.03 # doesn't sound as good anymore without the SRS WOW, is there some kind of substitute for that? 14.15.42 # you can use the EQ and stereo width 14.15.55 # nothing like srs, no 14.16.02 # imho, SRS WOW sounds crap 14.16.18 # it sounds good on some tracks i have 14.16.26 # * Genre9mp3 hates SRS WOW, too... 14.16.40 # * Genre9mp3 also hates its fancy name 14.16.40 # hehe 14.16.46 # you know BBE? 14.17.07 # grrrrrrrrrrr this 1 mp3 is stopping every 5sec or so :( 14.17.13 # Jungti1234: iAudio's BBE? 14.17.16 # tom\alive: there's also replaygain to help as well 14.17.17 # yes 14.17.29 # what about it? 14.17.39 # Hmm, I'm crap at setting up equalisers and stuff :\ 14.17.50 # the WOW was great though, just turned it on and it sounded great 14.17.57 # Sound field? 14.18.19 # * preglow gone 14.18.36 # Samsung is DNSe 14.19.03 # I don't even use the EQ...I like to listen to my music the way it's meant to be listened... ;) 14.19.14 # :) 14.19.23 # that's what the eq is for, compensating faults in hardware 14.20.56 # shouldnt swcodec check to see if its buffer is nearing empty and refill it? 14.20.59 Join orfax [0] (i=kvirc@CPE-60-226-235-233.sa.bigpond.net.au) 14.21.57 # it seems to let it fully empty on a certain few tracks... i dunno if its those mp3z, or the hdd or what... but its very repeatable on those tracks?? 14.24.42 Nick XavierGr_ is now known as XavierGr- (n=XavierGr@ppp122-124.adsl.forthnet.gr) 14.24.48 Nick XavierGr- is now known as XavierGr (n=XavierGr@ppp122-124.adsl.forthnet.gr) 14.28.09 # JdGordon: The swcodec buffer margin calculation still leaves a lot to be desired 14.28.38 # ok 14.29.10 # The hwcodec engine calculates the margin dynamically, based on the average bitrate of the track and the measured disk spinup time, using a safe default if that value is not yet available 14.29.58 # Mikachu: EQ/tone control is both for compensating hardware deficiencies and different listening conditions 14.30.09 # (think about fletcher-munson) 14.30.12 # but doesnt the codec know when the buffer is nearing empty? using the same value the info page shows.. and then try to fill it if is too low? 14.30.33 # The point is that the 'too low' point is variable 14.30.57 # does it matter where that point is if you can't fill it faster than it empties? 14.31.19 # what music you all into? :) 14.31.54 # cant u set a hard limit on the bottom before just waiting to empty? 14.32.09 # * JdGordon doesnt really know what he is talking about.. but anoyed a few tracks dont work properly 14.32.09 # Mikachu: We can always fill it faster than it empties... thing is that the swcodec engine lets it run too low, even though it misuses the anti-skip buffer setting 14.33.00 # do i bother playing the offending tracks in the OF to see if its a buggered mp3 or hdd? 14.33.36 # bah, gtg.. back in an hour 14.34.01 # amiconn: now that you are at an ondio fix can you look why on ondio a normal press-any-key to exit algorithm doesn't work in minesweeper? pixelma reported this yesterday. The same applies for the ondio sim. minesweeper.c line 426-428. I check the button value but it isn't zero so the loop exits immediately. Does it has to do that the ondio uses a press and hold button to enter that part of code? 14.37.40 Join obo [0] (i=hidden-u@195.129.25.205) 14.37.45 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.39.58 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 14.40.21 # XavierGr: Most probably. In that case, the any-key code must not trigger on a repeat, only on a plain press 14.40.54 # hmm okay thanks, I will try and think of something. 14.41.46 # * amiconn wonders why minesweeper should wait for a key 14.41.59 # Sound more cumbersome than the old way... 14.42.26 # because when the player lose the whole board is unveiled for the user to see where the mines were located. 14.43.21 # that's the way most minesweepers I have seen do it, but if you think we should remove it... 14.43.34 # ah, hmm, okay 14.43.39 # a dead player shouldn't care :) 14.43.45 # hehe 14.43.46 # http://jungti1234.netcci.net/0104.gif 14.43.47 Part obo 14.44.21 # Hmm, could any native english speaker please shed a light on the following case? 14.45.15 # * midkay raises a hand, if nobody else 14.45.15 # Afaik, the messages for winning/ losing should either be "You win" / "You lose" or "You've won" / "You've lost", but not "You won" / "You lost" 14.45.35 # Am I wrong? 14.45.36 # win/lose sounds good... 14.45.58 # ok then maybe that's my mistake. 14.45.59 # they all work, just a bit differently. 14.46.39 # you won/you lost is like referring to what you completed, but since you *just* completed it, win/lose makes a bit more sense. 14.50.20 # amiconn: thanks that did the trick for minesweeper. 14.52.30 # ok now that I am at it. How the text must be changed? You've won/lost or You win/lose? 14.53.31 # you've won/lost is probably the worst of the three options, IMO. 14.53.43 # i vote for you win/lose. 14.53.54 # ok then I will revert it. 14.54.13 # * midkay will bbiab 14.54.49 # amiconn, btw, i started on a version of xobox for archoses using the grayscale lib but i had a few problems.. i was wondering if you could have a look. 14.54.54 # *brb* 14.54.58 # it just seems strange to me to use simple present for an action in the past.... 14.58.04 # English is a bit different than other european languages in that respect. In german, you would use present perfect for these messages 15.01.50 # bye all 15.02.12 # I assume that plugins don't support transparency colours like WPS, right? 15.02.17 Quit Jungti1234 () 15.05.47 # XavierGr: What do you mean?? 15.06.38 # well on WPS there is a certain colour that is considered transparent. 15.07.04 # Is that the case on plugins too. (or is it universal?) 15.07.39 # There is a special drawing function for transparent bitmapes 15.07.51 # It only works for 16bit displays right now 15.08.12 # the name of the function? 15.14.13 Quit goffa (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.15.22 Join gromit` [0] (n=gromit@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 15.16.07 # the color is 255,0,255 and i'm pretty sure it's universal.. 15.30.49 # heya 15.33.48 # I'm trying to build rockbox on a 5g ipod, but so that it uses 64MB. However setting the memorysize=64 in the configure script isn't enough. It fails to load an mp3 with a codec failure message.Anyone got any clues? 15.34.19 # it just doesn't work like that, or something. :p 15.34.25 # more things have to be changed, i believe. 15.34.44 # *bbl* 15.34.50 # crt0 probably (memory controller) 15.35.44 # orfax: do you know if the ipod linux guys use the full 64MB? 15.35.58 # and several defines for the buffer allocation 15.36.43 # markun: yeah I'll check 15.37.14 # we remap the RAM to start at 0. Might be that we only remap the first 32MB.. 15.40.26 Join gtkspert [0] (n=gtkspert@203-166-230-249.dyn.iinet.net.au) 15.40.36 Join Hansmaulwurf [0] (n=maerlyn@p5081AE1E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.41.04 # http://www.google.com/trends?q=rockbox <--- iPod Boom 15.41.13 # hi everybody 15.42.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.44.06 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.45.12 Join dj-fu [0] (n=deejay@202-89-151-29.ubs.qsi.net.nz) 15.47.04 Join Rori [0] (n=me@host-87-74-27-86.bulldogdsl.com) 15.49.32 Join XavierGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp125-151.adsl.forthnet.gr) 15.49.50 # lets see if X-chat is anygood... 15.51.54 # It's nice. 15.52.03 # i've taken to using it on win32, cause of the perl interface 15.52.55 # XavierGr: Just a quick tip for you: Settings > Preferences > Chatting > General 15.56.10 Join XaviersGr [0] (n=XavierGr@ppp120-171.adsl.forthnet.gr) 15.58.34 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 16.01.30 Nick XaviersGr is now known as XavierGr_ (n=XavierGr@ppp120-171.adsl.forthnet.gr) 16.03.24 # orfax: The first thing I would check is to add some code to a standard Rockbox build to try and write some values (and read them back) from the second 32MB of RAM. As markun said, Rockbox remaps ram to start at address 0, and maybe that remapping code doesn't remap the full 64MB. 16.04.48 Join klrspz [0] (n=klrSpz@69.15.248.2) 16.10.23 Quit XavierGr_ ("Leaving") 16.10.38 # hi 16.11.48 # I'll probably give dj'ing another acid test (sic! ;) tonight just to make sure - if I use 44.1kHz .wav and I get dropouts it wasn't the codec right ? 16.13.20 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.13.54 Quit ashridah (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.14.43 Quit gtkspert (Remote closed the connection) 16.14.56 Join gtkspert [0] (n=gtkspert@203-166-230-249.dyn.iinet.net.au) 16.15.51 Join Psilonaut [0] (n=DaPhunka@175-193.244.81.adsl.skynet.be) 16.16.37 Quit Genre9mp3 ("Leaving") 16.19.11 Quit dj-fu (Connection timed out) 16.25.59 Quit courtc (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.27.53 Quit muesli|delhi ("ich will Kühe!!!") 16.32.04 Join Escapatio [0] (n=Blabla@h8441145186.dsl.speedlinq.nl) 16.42.07 Quit JdGordon (Remote closed the connection) 16.44.28 Quit tom\alive (Remote closed the connection) 16.44.44 Join Febs [0] (n=40be24f0@labb.contactor.se) 16.49.26 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@dslb-084-056-084-044.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.50.23 Join Gerco [0] (i=Gerco@apollo11.demon.nl) 16.52.26 # g'day 17.01.26 # hi, is it possible to play video's with rockbox on a ipod video? 17.01.36 # no 17.01.53 # will it be possible? 17.02.02 # Psilonaut: yes, when someone writes the code 17.02.15 # ok, thx for the info 17.03.28 # Is it already clear what the problem is with the current builds, running on an iPod 4G and don't get past the splash screen? 17.05.37 # or is that question too generic :) 17.08.41 # markun: I think ipl only uses 32. Going through their patch I can only see DRAM_SIZE set to 0x2000000 which =32MB 17.09.37 Join SereR0KR [0] (n=Fletcher@Fce99.f.strato-dslnet.de) 17.13.08 Join hardeep [0] (n=hardeep@c-67-188-108-180.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 17.17.25 Quit klrspz () 17.20.05 Quit chang ("So long, and thanks for all the fish !") 17.23.38 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 17.27.19 # what is the "escape/quit" button binding in the X5 simulator? I tried a lot of keys but did not find yet :) 17.27.52 # check the source! ;-) 17.28.03 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp125-61.adsl.forthnet.gr) 17.28.11 # * Bagder can't remember 17.28.11 # (especially while using a plugin, the left arrow works well outside plugins) 17.28.31 # plugins quit on the power switch on the real unit 17.28.34 # mostly 17.28.40 # you're right, I'm lazy 17.28.42 # oh ^^ 17.29.02 # (I'll get my brand new W5 in two days so I didn't know) 17.29.05 # *X5 17.29.57 # #define SUDOKU_BUTTON_QUIT BUTTON_OFF ^^ 17.31.02 # enter/return/a 17.31.16 # uisimulator/sdl/button.c 17.32.10 # you could also run the simulator with --background , then the buttons should be labeled. 17.32.53 # jd_: That mapping is still missing... 17.33.21 # It's a bug in the X5 sim. 17.33.30 # ok. neither a/enter/return is « working » but that's no issue, I was just wondering if it was a bug or a lack :) 17.33.37 # thank you 17.34.09 # * amiconn once had an idea how to make the sim button mappings less error prone, but can't quite remember how it was supposed to work :/ 17.34.11 # I'll write my first plugin to learn more about all the nitty-gritty details 17.34.28 # too bad amiconn ;) 17.34.58 # jd_: that's the spirit, get your feet wet by hands-on experience! 17.37.26 # I spend my afternoon lurking in the source code, in fact ; I think starting with plugins could be an appropriate start-off 17.37.36 # I agree 17.37.45 # its a good way to get acquinted 17.38.13 Part Gerco 17.38.15 # just need a plugin *idea* 17.38.16 # :) 17.38.20 # hehe 17.38.32 # port your favourite simple game 17.38.41 # i've already done life 17.38.42 # common approach ;-) 17.38.51 # common approach ;) 17.39.00 # i hear it's a common approach 17.39.10 # is it? 17.39.54 # you could also improve an existing plugin, for example add colours to minesweeper :) 17.40.01 # I once played a game with three vikings but don't remember the title.. 17.40.10 # When I try to registre for the patch tracker, I get an error: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/error 17.40.24 # How do I register? 17.42.23 # jd_: lost vikings? 17.42.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.44.13 # right! 17.44.18 # thank you :) 17.45.22 # Mikachu, i don't see that you changed plugin_api with your last absolute wheel position patch... so how do you use wheel_status? 17.47.13 # i'm pretty sure it does 17.47.35 # i also put two patches in the task that show how to use ti 17.48.05 # then again, maybe i forgot 17.48.21 # last patch rockbox-wheel_absolute_patch_v4.patch changes only button.c 17.48.42 # it is clear how to use it :) 17.48.48 # ah, v3 changes the other ones 17.49.34 # you'll have to mix and match a bit 17.50.34 # yeah ... just wanted to know didn't i miss something :) 17.57.14 Join Aditya|Nap [0] (i=user@c-69-138-7-5.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 17.57.27 Part Aditya|Nap 17.58.49 Nick ender is now known as ender` (i=useless@84.52.165.220) 18.02.34 Quit orfax (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.03.54 Join akaidiot [0] (n=not@84-217-94-174.tn.glocalnet.net) 18.05.01 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-137-028.pools.arcor-ip.net) 18.05.32 # How do I add a patch to the patch tracker? 18.06.05 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 18.07.50 Quit hannesd_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.08.01 # you reg a user and submit a patch 18.09.35 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 18.13.07 Quit Febs ("reboot") 18.13.47 Join rconan [0] (n=richard@82.12.23.18) 18.13.55 Quit petur ("[x]") 18.18.27 Quit Hansmaulwurf ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 18.21.28 Quit akaidiota (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.22.37 Quit XavierGr () 18.23.07 Join Spoilerhead [0] (n=spoilerh@85-124-11-185.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) 18.23.17 # I registered. I see a link to "Open a new Task anonymously", but from there I don't see where I submit the patch file 18.23.25 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp125-61.adsl.forthnet.gr) 18.24.29 Join jchillerup [0] (n=chill@port167.ds1-vir.adsl.cybercity.dk) 18.25.37 # earHertz: you have to login first 18.25.46 # I did login 18.26.04 # When I login I don't see the "Open a new Task anonymously" anymore 18.26.45 Quit german_snail () 18.27.30 # ok, you're righrt, I'm not logged in 18.27.41 # Flyspray isnn't real informative 18.27.46 # as fart as that goes 18.28.21 # I think you are the first who complains about it 18.28.24 # anyone can help me with rockbox on an 2gipod mini? 18.28.58 # Someone has to go first. Try registering a name with a space in it, and tell me if you find teh error message iformatiove 18.29.54 # :) 18.31.31 # i start it up, it boots fine, but when its loaded its shows me a file mamanger and i can'T access my music 18.32.24 # Does the file manager respond at all? 18.33.01 # yes it works fine 18.33.21 # This might be your problem: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ#How_do_I_access_music_that_I_hav 18.33.27 # but cant see the folder "ipod_control" where my music i located 18.34.36 # thats what i find dstrange, i cant see it 18.35.16 # Did you read the first line? 18.36.08 Quit dpassen1 () 18.36.40 # oh, yes, thx 18.37.01 # now i selected a file and its frozen :( 18.41.17 # ok, thin k git it 18.41.27 # music selectionworks only with playlists, right? 18.42.23 Join XavierGr_ [0] (n=xavier@ppp121-4.adsl.forthnet.gr) 18.42.30 # No, you should be able to just play a file 18.49.18 # ok.. i'm getting used to it, thanks for your help 18.54.13 Quit Psilonaut (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.55.24 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.55.32 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 18.55.44 Quit thegeek (Remote closed the connection) 18.55.56 Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) 18.56.16 Quit hardeep (Remote closed the connection) 18.58.32 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 18.58.45 Nick XavierGr_ is now known as XavierGr (n=xavier@ppp121-4.adsl.forthnet.gr) 19.04.24 Join scorche` [0] (n=cd7a14fc@labb.contactor.se) 19.10.04 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 19.17.38 Quit rconan (Remote closed the connection) 19.19.00 Part linuxstb ("Leaving") 19.23.21 Quit Escapatio () 19.25.26 Quit Acksaw (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.25.27 Join Spacksaw [0] (n=Acksaw@spc1-stok5-0-0-cust770.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) 19.26.31 Join XavierGr_ [0] (n=xavier@ppp119-141.adsl.forthnet.gr) 19.29.09 Quit hannesd (Client Quit) 19.34.52 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 19.35.09 Join Aditya|Nap [0] (n=aditya@c-69-138-7-5.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 19.35.13 Part Aditya|Nap 19.42.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.43.06 Quit XavierGr (Connection timed out) 19.43.26 Part XavierGr_ 19.45.30 Quit qwm ("Lost terminal") 19.46.15 Join pixelma [0] (n=pixelma@212.204.41.115) 19.46.47 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 19.47.21 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp119-141.adsl.forthnet.gr) 19.51.06 Join Miv [0] (n=noyb@216.229.201.109) 19.51.50 Join hardeep [0] (i=hardeeps@otaku.freeshell.ORG) 19.51.56 # anyone willing to help me figure out which mp3 recorder to buy for recording broadway show? 19.53.23 # H100 19.53.27 # if you can find it 19.53.38 # what about the h140? 19.53.44 # yes 19.53.49 # the same model 19.53.56 # what is the recording time limitation I read about 19.54.08 # there is no recording limitation with rockbox 19.54.16 # wow 19.54.23 # unlesss you are talking about the defualt firmware 19.54.35 # which, yes, has a limitation 19.54.41 # so I have to install rockbox? 19.54.46 # but why use the default if there is rockbox? 19.54.48 # yes 19.54.55 # i'm a newbie... 19.55.02 # is it difficult to install? 19.55.08 # not at all 19.55.24 # you just download 3 files and you are ready to go. 19.55.33 # so the h100 series is about the best you can get? 19.55.43 # for a DAP I think yes 19.55.46 # some people are even using an external ADC with an optical connection to their irivers I believe 19.55.53 # looking at ebay... seems to be plenty at affordable prices 19.56.00 # it is the only that has both optical/analog in/out 19.56.19 # i use a md now... pain to put into computer at realtime 19.56.40 # Miv: Ahh I know what you are talking about MD is a major pain. 19.56.44 # is it possible to record in wav for 3 hours on 40 gig 19.56.50 # yes 19.56.57 # and more 19.57.05 # looks like you have helped me so much! 19.57.13 # I think someone recorded that managed to record for 7-8 hours 19.57.22 # recorded = reported 19.57.26 # Miv: see also taperssection.com for more recording info 19.57.31 # how about transfer to computer? 19.57.41 # Miv: H100 is UMS 19.57.48 # UMS? 19.57.49 # so you just plug and you transfer 19.57.57 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-85-113.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) 19.57.59 # like an external USB drive 19.58.14 # ahhh.... what about clipping? 19.58.31 # we have level monitoring and on the fly gain 19.58.46 Join Spoiler [0] (n=spoilerh@85-124-11-185.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) 19.58.48 # there's also an experimental build that has AGC 19.58.53 # sounds like ya'll have got it all worked out! 19.58.59 # yup :D 19.59.08 # * petur is a recording fan 19.59.11 # :D 19.59.24 # would the 120 have enough space for recording long sets (3 hours or so?) 19.59.33 # plenty 19.59.34 # I think yes 20.00.06 # I don't think I would have to have the 140 then... price difference isn't too big though 20.00.18 # 3 hours should be about 2 GB? 20.00.26 # at wav? 20.00.31 # yes 20.00.33 # yes 20.00.49 # thanks so much! 20.01.26 # Miv: I don't think there is something better than H100 in DAP terms. 20.01.54 # :) 20.01.59 # at least for recording... 20.03.16 # if only iriver planed for an H500... 20.03.38 # instead they produce one failure after another. 20.03.57 # an h180 / h380 would be fine too ;) 20.04.19 # but yeah, maybe faster cpu 20.04.26 # indeed 20.04.39 # Eating more battery? 20.04.43 Quit Hadaka ("Reconnecting") 20.04.59 # Nah, I think the h1x0 hardware is pretty ok 20.04.59 # sorry, faster and more efficient :) 20.05.11 Join courtc [0] (n=court@c-71-199-169-45.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 20.05.17 Join Naked [0] (i=naked@62.142.249.112) 20.05.23 # There are 2 things I dislike about the h1x0 though. (1) the joystick (2) the buttons on the side 20.05.35 Nick Naked is now known as Hadaka (i=naked@62.142.249.112) 20.06.01 # I like the joystick, though yes the buttons on the side are somewhat annoying. 20.06.44 Join webguest51 [0] (n=5087f848@labb.contactor.se) 20.07.36 # just have to chip in my 0005c worth, I like the buttons on the side, makes for wasy controlling when the unit is on my belt, 20.08.27 # although I mainly use the the play pause button when the unit is on my belt 20.10.27 Part webguest51 20.10.29 # once again .... thanks for the great help!!!! 20.10.33 Quit Miv () 20.10.40 Join RedBreva [0] (n=chatzill@host86-144-107-234.range86-144.btcentralplus.com) 20.13.59 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.14.29 Quit Spoilerhead (Nick collision from services.) 20.14.59 Nick Spoiler is now known as spoilerhead (n=spoilerh@85-124-11-185.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) 20.18.05 Join webguest15 [0] (n=3df7f661@labb.contactor.se) 20.18.12 Join webguest94 [0] (n=c8417fa3@labb.contactor.se) 20.20.49 Quit webguest94 (Client Quit) 20.21.05 Quit sharpe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.21.26 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.21.40 Quit mikearthur (Remote closed the connection) 20.23.11 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 20.23.19 Quit webguest15 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 20.26.40 Part spoilerhead ("Quit") 20.31.49 Join Acksaw [0] (n=Acksaw@spc1-stok5-0-0-cust770.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) 20.38.36 Quit Bagder ("Off to search for that connect-resetting peer guy!") 20.41.53 Join Z_God [0] (n=Z_God@jabber.xs4all.nl) 20.42.56 # I was wondering if it is somehow possible to have multiple rockbox versions installed 20.43.07 # is this possible & easy to do? 20.43.12 # hm 20.43.16 # well, you can keep several copies 20.43.36 # and swich swapping files using a comp? 20.43.39 # just rename the rockbox firmware to something other and load it from within rockbox 20.44.45 # and the .rockbox directory? 20.45.03 # the .rockbox directory is hard coded 20.45.16 # if you want to keep multiple .rockbox:es, you need to manually patch the code. 20.45.28 # k, I already thought so 20.45.34 # I think I'll just rename it then 20.52.30 Quit Spacksaw (Connection timed out) 20.54.49 # Z_God: if the codecs, plugins,.. stay compatible between yourversions, just have rockbox.xxx, myversion.xxx,... in the root and load them on the fly 20.55.21 # yep, but isn't the point of new versions codec fixes too? 20.55.35 # I've now created a folder old_firmware and put the old files there 20.55.52 # seems to work nicely, although I need a comp to switch the firmware now 20.55.56 # ah you want to switch between old/new firmwares 20.56.52 # well, it was mainly to have a backup in case the new version had a problem 20.57.00 # my trick only works for different special builds based on the same code 20.57.19 # ah, what kind of special builds do you use then? 20.57.58 # normal, some test build for debugging, recording build (agc patch),... 20.58.15 # ah, k :) 20.58.19 # normally only two: recording and normal/debug 20.58.39 # Loading on the fly (RoLo) does only work on archos, iriver and iaudio, but not on ipod 20.58.55 # oh, it doesn't? 21.00.31 # I noticed that rockbox doesn't switch to usbmode when I'm connecting my ipod while it's showing the credits btw 21.00.32 # petur: Btw, should I fix the instruction order in tree.c? 21.01.00 # me the same... you or me ;) 21.04.04 Join novimon [0] (n=novimon@a84-230-230-239.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 21.05.09 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-85-113.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.05.44 # Ok, done 21.06.51 # great 21.09.36 # anyone can advice tutorials/books on programming in asm for arm targets ? 21.10.12 # amiconn: reading your comment, any idea on how to move on with the isp1362? 21.21.44 # Still the same - first we need access to it 21.21.52 # amiconn: how are removable media handled atm. specifically: how are they shown in the tree? 21.23.06 # The devices supporting removable media (currently only the Ondios) also need multivolume support 21.23.25 # You can select (at compile time) how many partitions will be supported 21.23.42 # It works unix-like 21.24.05 # The first partition becomes the filesystem root 21.24.45 # ah it's not an extra loadable filesystem like usbotg would be 21.24.47 # Further partitions are mounted below it, and special virtual directories are created 21.25.14 # These use angle brackets, like this: 21.25.36 # The string is is compile time, the number is the volume number 21.25.48 # Loadable file system? 21.25.49 # is <> disallowed on vfat and/or fat32? 21.26.16 # It's not, but most OS'es forbid it in file names 21.26.36 # This is why we use it here - it's highly unlikely that a real directory with this name exists 21.27.04 # ok 21.27.08 # These are virtual directories - they exist only in the rockbox filesystem driver 21.27.49 # petur: What did you mean with loadable file system? 21.28.08 # usbotg should mount external media the same way, no? 21.28.18 # Mounting/unmounting on Ondio is of course done on the fly 21.28.19 # maybe the term is wrong 21.28.45 # If you plug an MMC, the directory appears in the root, if you pull the card, it disappears again 21.29.03 # great 21.29.13 # This is a feature separate from HAVE_MULTIVOLUME, it's enabled by HAVE_HOTPLUG 21.29.41 # Hotplug will need special support (in the USBOTG driver), multivolume works on all targets when enabled 21.29.51 # it would be comical to walk around with an ipod nano and a 400GB external usb drive 21.30.01 Join theli_ [0] (n=theli@c.196.177.a408.dyn.adsl.cyfra.net) 21.30.12 # + power supply 21.30.24 Join tom__ [0] (n=tom@84.12.163.202) 21.30.38 # I used it to test mixed fat16/fat32 configurations (and large fat16 partitions) on my player, when I had a 256MB MMC only 21.31.01 # Made 3 partitions on the player, and selected support for 3 volumes 21.31.27 # should everything work fine if i created a third fat partition on a nano and enabled multivolume? 21.31.36 # Yes it should 21.31.41 # i don't remember if i asked that before or if i only thought about it 21.31.43 # okay, thanks 21.31.54 # You can also enable fat16 support, and have one fat16 and one fat32 partition 21.32.02 # could be temporary storage, with the space between the boot partition and the main partition 21.32.03 Join PaulJam_ [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3069.gwdg.de) 21.32.09 # 60MB is a lot on a nano :) 21.32.29 # i know that space could be overwritten by the apple os which is why i don't want to extend the main partition there 21.33.12 # Just be careful that the 'right' partition becomes your root - rockbox walks the partition table in order 21.33.45 # it would be the third partition, but physically start before the second which is the main one 21.34.04 # i had it set up like that with ipl, but i guess rockbox would ignore the ext3 partition in any case 21.34.56 # yes 21.35.46 # i can't try it before i reboot, but i don't want to do that right now 21.36.09 # Rockbox walks the partition table in order, and tries to mount every partition as fat32 (and fat16, if support is enabled). If it fails, it moves on, until it either mounted as many partitions as defined for multivolume, or the partition table ends 21.36.47 # It doesn't care about the partition type, so it even mounts 'hidden' fat partitions 21.38.39 # Is there an iPod target that has USBOTG? 21.39.45 # have you seen the nike+ipod thing? it made me laugh 21.39.50 # http://www.apple.com/ipod/nike/ 21.39.52 Part Z_God 21.40.34 # why? 21.40.43 # will be a hit 21.40.50 # Ah, I forgot: If the partition table ends, and rockbox still couldn't mount anything, it finally tries superfloppy mode 21.41.32 # it looks like they don't recommend running with a harddisk based ipod either 21.42.01 Join akaidiota [0] (n=not@1-1-6-23a.spa.sth.bostream.se) 21.42.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.42.40 # petur: no particularly rational reason 21.43.33 # the potential (which apple will never see) for specialized training software 21.44.02 Quit theli_ ("quit") 21.45.21 Join sharpe [0] (i=sharpe@user-0c8hc3b.cable.mindspring.com) 21.45.29 Quit Strath (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.45.35 # hallo! 21.46.59 Quit theli_ua (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.47.11 Quit _Veseliq_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.48.46 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.49.25 Join _Veseliq_ [0] (n=veseliq@195.85.215.210) 21.54.56 Join Spacksaw [0] (n=Acksaw@spc1-stok5-0-0-cust770.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) 21.55.15 Quit Acksaw (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.55.27 # amiconn: finished bubbles on archos the other day =) 21.58.15 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 21.58.27 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 21.58.27 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 21.58.55 Quit akaidiot (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.00.37 Quit akaidiota (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.00.59 # guess what sharpe finished the other day! 22.01.00 Quit scorche` ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.03.15 Quit Spacksaw (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.03.48 Join Acksaw [0] (n=Acksaw@spc1-stok5-0-0-cust770.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) 22.08.16 # sharpe: one of five emulators? 22.10.01 # :) 22.10.01 Quit _Veseliq_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.10.05 # sharpe: when are you going to submit a patch? 22.10.08 # actually, i didn't finish anything. 22.10.13 # XavierGr: for which? 22.10.37 # anything: C64, SIDE or things like that... 22.10.43 # i don't know.. 22.10.49 Join obo_ [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 22.11.04 Join theli_ua [0] (n=theli@c.196.177.a408.dyn.adsl.cyfra.net) 22.11.06 # i don't think he really does anything, he's just pretending so we'll like him 22.11.22 Quit obo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.11.23 # hehe 22.11.28 Nick obo_ is now known as obo (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 22.11.29 # maybe who knows 22.11.46 # yeah, i make those screenshots from scratch 22.11.59 # :) 22.12.03 # photoshopped from another emu to the sim 22.12.08 # exactly. 22.12.16 # you've discovered me 22.12.22 # yes, there you are etc 22.12.24 # sharpe: you should just leave us with our mouths open with a patch :P 22.12.40 # i will, this weekend 22.12.56 # ok, looking forward for it! 22.13.01 # :) 22.13.07 # it'll be the SIDE one 22.13.33 # i've just got to fix that little cpu problem, and add coloring, and other misc. things 22.14.41 # but, i'll be back later 22.19.58 # so.. bye... everyone... 22.20.58 Join San [0] (n=test@213-202-175-74.bas504.dsl.esat.net) 22.25.45 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 22.29.14 Quit theli_ua ("quit") 22.33.02 Nick San is now known as imwarm (n=test@213-202-175-74.bas504.dsl.esat.net) 22.33.07 Nick imwarm is now known as San (n=test@213-202-175-74.bas504.dsl.esat.net) 22.33.56 # haha 22.34.35 Join klrspz [0] (n=klrSpz@69.15.248.2) 22.40.35 Quit PaulJam_ (".") 22.42.16 Join solexx [0] (n=jrschulz@e176097058.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.45.34 # did someone already report the dircache failure today? 22.45.51 # On booting up, I get the "scanning disk" message and then 22.45.58 # Failure! Result: -2 22.46.03 # iriver h120 22.46.29 # many files? 22.46.40 # probably 22.46.46 # how many? 22.46.48 # wait a minute 22.47.22 # including directories? 22.47.54 # $ find iriver/ | wc -l 22.47.56 # 6778 22.48.12 # $ find iriver/ -type f | wc -l 22.48.12 # 5676 22.48.55 # Do you want to suggest moving my svn working copy out of the way? :) 22.49.30 # good idea, it worked! :) 22.49.40 # hahaha 22.49.43 # check dircache debug 22.49.47 # how much space does it take now? 22.49.55 # it almost sounds like dircache ran out of space 22.49.59 # dircache boogs.... 22.50.15 # * Mikachu dances the dircache boogie 22.50.24 # Cache size: 271889 22.50.42 # Limit: 6291456 22.51.44 # this was with 4403 files and directories 22.51.55 # hmm 22.51.56 # weird 22.51.58 # plenty of space left 22.52.09 # 6 megs limit 22.52.09 # hahaha 22.52.13 # that should do 22.52.37 # i've got 4k files muyself 22.52.40 # works just ggrrreat 22.52.41 # hmm... 22.52.44 # I am trying again with more files 22.53.16 # it must mean something when my google homepage has all the items labeled, "Information is temporarily unavailable" and there's fifteen of them... 22.53.16 Join akaidiot [0] (n=not@84-217-94-8.tn.glocalnet.net) 22.54.01 # it means your internet is unwell 22.55.07 # or it's just a stroke of luck that every single content item's host is offline... 23.00.22 Join Bagder [0] (n=daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 23.00.43 # hm, with 5700+ files I don't get the failure message anymore 23.01.01 # instead tagcache silently doesn't work 23.01.09 # gr8 23.02.38 # strange 23.02.49 # disable, reboot, enable, reboot helped 23.04.53 # i hate this strange current that's going through my iriver when it is charging 23.08.36 # you hate the charging current? 23.09.20 Quit Acksaw (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.09.31 # no, the current that I can feel from the case itself 23.09.52 # it is even in the official iriver faq that this device does it 23.09.52 # that would be a bad thing 23.09.56 Join Acksaw [0] (n=Acksaw@spc1-stok5-0-0-cust770.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) 23.10.18 # most of the time it is not strong 23.10.25 # sometimes I don't feel it at all 23.10.39 # but today... maybe the bad wheather or my wet hands... 23.11.03 # wet skin has much much lower impedance than dry skin 23.11.15 # whatever that means. :) 23.11.27 # i got that from my h10 too 23.11.31 # bad cables or something, i guess 23.11.50 # maybe it is also related to the leather case 23.12.02 # I am not sure whether the power plug is inserted completely 23.12.29 # argh, iriver took the h100 series from their site 23.12.57 # idiots 23.14.22 # web.archive.org maybe 23.14.48 # ah, it's still in google's index 23.16.39 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 23.20.25 # amiconn: the 25C02 eeprom uses CS signalling, not addressing. I don't see the CS mentioned in the wiki, so maybe we're asserting that pin and writing eeprom 23.20.26 Quit MarcoPolo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.20.33 # actually, it's not 23.21.24 # Hah! 23.21.48 # http://www.iriver.com/html/support/faq/sufq_view.asp?searchProductIdx=&searchString=current&page=1&idx=9&tmpSearchProductIdx=&tmpSearchString= 23.22.27 Quit _Lucretia_ ("Leaving") 23.24.08 # Anyone around know if there's any way to trace which build servers did which dailies for say, a specific target across the last couple weeks? 23.26.01 # I know you can click on the number next to the cvs build 23.26.17 # Yeah, but that's CVS builds 23.26.34 # I'm wondering if the 4G freezing thing is compiler related. I have at least one person saying that when he makes his own builds, they don't freeze. 23.26.41 # Paul_The_Nerd: the dailies are made on the same (master) server always 23.26.45 # And I'm almost _sure_ that linuxstb compiles his own. 23.26.49 # oh... dailies... 23.27.31 # Bagder: Hmm.... Well, that solves that question right there, thanks. I was wondering if it might be slightly different compiler versions, or something else, but if that's the case it kinda can't be. :) 23.27.36 Join Sa [0] (n=test@213-202-175-74.bas504.dsl.esat.net) 23.27.53 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.28.18 # arm-elf-gcc --version 23.28.18 # arm-elf-gcc (GCC) 4.0.2 23.28.34 Join akaidiota [0] (n=not@84-217-15-146.tn.glocalnet.net) 23.28.50 # Bagder: The thing is, there are a couple known "good" builds. Though actually, even those freeze, just not as much. 23.28.50 Quit akaidiota (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.29.04 # aha 23.29.42 # * petur needs LinusN :( 23.29.59 Join akaidiota [0] (n=not@84-217-4-38.tn.glocalnet.net) 23.30.47 # But if I recall, they just freeze later, rather than not freezing at all. I'll gather more information. There's freezing on Minis (1g and 2g) and both 4G Color and Grayscale. So you'd _think_ that Amiconn or Linuxstb would have it happening to them. 23.31.08 # I never had a freeze on my mini g2... 23.32.42 # * amiconn uses arm-elf-gcc 4.0.3 23.33.16 # But I suspect a bug somewhere in the ipod builds. It clearly hits when optimising the core with either -O2 or -Os 23.34.14 # Doing this for coldfire and sh1 doesn't cause problems (since I fixed them). For sh1, -Os is even standard since a few weeks back... 23.34.47 Quit Siku () 23.38.34 # i suspect a bug in gcc 23.38.38 # * preglow kicks gcc 23.40.22 # I don't - this time 23.40.46 # where does the error occur again? 23.41.07 # Builds done with -O2 or -Os are very unstable 23.41.34 # I suspect some asm block not declaring all scratch registers, or something like that 23.41.51 # amiconn: seen my comment about the eeprom earlier? It could be we're asserting the CS of the eeprom without knowing 23.41.53 # not impossible 23.41.59 # This was the reason on both coldfire and sh1 (in the ata driver, caused by me :/ ) 23.42.33 # asserting cs should not be enough to write 23.42.34 # These problems tend to show up when there's more inlining 23.42.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.43.10 # petur: Are you sure that the eeprom doesn't have several modes, one of which is preset in the iriver? 23.43.48 # If it's hooked up to the same lines, it pretty much has to use i2c - and i2c defines no CS (afaik) 23.44.58 # true, after cs it needs a valid command 23.44.59 Quit akaidiot (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.45.22 Join Strath [0] (n=mike@dpc67143207026.direcpc.com) 23.45.38 # It also needs a device address 23.46.02 # hmmmm 23.46.06 # Otherwise other devices on the bus could mistake a command for the eeprom as their device address 23.46.28 Quit Poka64 ("brb") 23.47.11 # according to the datasheet the eeprom is an SPI device -> no addressing but uses CS 23.47.26 # unless the wiki is wrong 23.47.46 # what, an spi device connected the the i2c bus? 23.49.34 Join Poka64 [0] (i=peter@hd5e241c0.gavlegardarna.gavle.to) 23.49.37 Join _Lucretia_ [0] (n=munkee@62.56.121.41) 23.50.52 Join TCK [0] (i=TCK@81-178-248-201.dsl.pipex.com) 23.51.51 Join [TCK] [0] (i=TCK@81-178-248-201.dsl.pipex.com) 23.54.00 Join Paul_The_Ner1 [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 23.54.23 Quit Paul_The_Nerd (Nick collision from services.) 23.54.28 Nick Paul_The_Ner1 is now known as Paul_The_Nerd (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 23.56.23 Quit Acksaw (Connection timed out) 23.58.06 # Is anybody working on porting rockbox to the H10 iriver player? 23.58.12 # nopes 23.58.17 # no developer with one has come forth yet 23.58.21 # either the eeprom pic in the wiki is from another device or there are h300's with different eeproms... 23.58.22 # k