--- Log for 04.06.106 Server: clarke.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot- Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 2 months and 10 days ago 00.00.09 Join [TCK] [0] (i=TCK@81-178-235-50.dsl.pipex.com) 00.01.09 # sharpe: I have notice it dose sometimes excute incorrect instruction (bad op code) The user interface could be a bit nicer. Its not bad though.. Mostly opinion related stuff. 00.01.24 # would be nice to have color.. 00.01.56 # and where are you getting at that it executes an incorrect instruction? 00.02.10 # sometime when I go into the configuration menu 00.02.19 # I havn't nailed it down yet.. 00.02.36 # only had it installed for less then an hour 00.02.47 # Might look into building the filmware from source. 00.03.08 # looks like you all have most of the crosscompiler stuff figured out.. 00.03.32 Join bluebrother [0] (i=bXKfL6GY@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 00.06.05 # not quite seeing what you're getting at, but alright. 00.06.58 # you know how to set rockbox to turn the screen off after 20 sec instead the 5 sec its doing now? 00.08.12 # general setting > display > lcd settings > backlight. 00.08.41 # don't see that in the menu on my X5 00.08.53 # which menu, do you see? 00.09.10 # its playing a mp3... I hold down the center button.. 00.09.23 # sound settings, Playlist.. etc 00.09.44 # I do not currently own an MP3 player. What is the best one to get that supports Rockbox? 00.09.57 # video ipod ? 00.10.09 # depends on what you want. 00.10.24 Quit Ribs ("Leaving") 00.10.31 # looks like iriver,ipod,Iaudio X5 work well according to the wiki site 00.10.33 # i want about 20 gb or so of storage, and dont need video 00.11.44 # 20GB IAudio X5 (biased oppinion :-P ) 00.11.57 # cStyle: a lot of people here seem rather fond of iriver h1x0 series (i.e. h120) 00.12.05 # aye. 00.12.13 # although i'm an ipod person myself... 00.12.34 # BioVorE: is there a menu button, or up button? 00.12.51 # up and down change volume 00.13.02 # try pressing up 00.13.03 # 5 way joystick on x5 00.13.21 # lleft and right go forward and back in playlist 00.13.28 # hold down center pulls up menu 00.13.35 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.14.02 # found it.. 00.14.09 # the record button brings up a menu 00.14.19 # and there you go. 00.14.21 # weird button to put a menu on 00.14.23 # :-P 00.14.40 # Is there manual that explains this.. maybe I should read it :-P 00.14.49 # yes, yes there is.. 00.15.17 # http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-iaudiox5-20060603.pdf 00.15.17 # BioVorE: look on the daily build page. 00.15.30 # rgr I see it.. downloading pdf now.. 00.15.49 # the manuals are build daily and improve daily (well, not always ;-) 00.16.44 # ok, thanks for the suggestions 00.22.24 # ok.. never mind what I said earlier.. reading the manual make me relized i didn't know what I was talking about :-P 00.22.40 # themable rules.. 00.22.48 # (theme) 00.29.59 Join poolnoodl [0] (n=45a22473@labb.contactor.se) 00.30.22 Quit lodesi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.35.10 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-66-60.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 00.35.28 Quit poolnoodl ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 00.37.19 Quit juxtap (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.43.14 Quit bluebrother ("Leaving") 00.45.04 Quit ender` (" Don't take life too seriously; you won't get out of it alive.") 00.46.05 Join poolnoodl [0] (n=45a22473@labb.contactor.se) 00.47.19 # hi all anyone else getting music pauses when playing bubbles? 00.47.30 # it happens 00.48.15 Join agentorange719 [0] (n=Super@brai061246.halls.colostate.edu) 00.49.13 # i just installed rockbox on my ipod and it was working fine until this morning, when the music player decided to stop working 00.49.34 # does anyone know what could have happened? 00.49.41 # it just stopped? 00.50.04 # everything else works, but the music in my music folder wont even show up 00.50.27 # did you happen to change shown files? 00.50.28 # is it there when you plug it into your computer? 00.50.35 # yeah 00.51.09 Join lostnihilist [0] (n=james@c-67-175-244-14.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 00.51.28 # i havnt changed anything, after it stopped working, i deleted rockbox off and put it back on, but nothing happened 00.51.34 # it still didnt work 00.51.39 # i'm taking a stab in the dark, you use the filebrowser, and not tagcache right? 00.51.49 # i tried both 00.52.32 # i m not sure what is going on with it at the moment so if one or the other has a possibility of working, im all ears 00.54.15 # i bet you have change the show files to something other than all or music 00.55.19 # where would i change that back 00.56.38 # hold menu for 2 seconds 00.57.00 # the screen should totally change 00.57.14 # then hit down to scroll through the choices 00.58.01 # menu to get back out 00.59.06 # any one else get pauses in music when playing bubbles? 01.00.59 # i found them, thank you, i appreciate it, the other thing im kinda worried about is that when i first installed rockbox, there was a file in the root directory called rockbox which has since disappeared on the ipod file browser, should i worry about this 01.04.09 Quit Poka64 ("bbl") 01.07.17 # nope 01.07.38 # as long as it's there on your computer 01.07.55 # do you have a video ipod agentorange? 01.14.50 Quit poolnoodl ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.18.12 Join ritalin [0] (n=chad@74.133.167.99) 01.18.22 # this is a shot in the dark, but dies anyone know where i could get an opensource real media converter 01.20.24 # i actually have an ipod mini 01.20.47 # i don't know why, but i have the need to see if i can get the crosscompiler working with mingw. 01.21.32 # agentorange719: I think there exists something like Real Alternative that maybe can convert files... 01.22.48 # does it, i have real alternative, but i thought it was basically a codec 01.23.13 # well I'm not sure.... 01.23.24 # ill check 01.24.06 # check this: http://ozzmosis.sensationcontent.com/realaudio.html 01.24.59 # use real alternative to create a wav, encode it to whatever you like 01.26.13 # and here's another one: http://www.freewarefiles.com/program_6_226_18106.html 01.26.27 # * petur thinks google is great ;) 01.26.35 # yay google! 01.26.40 # http://www.hlrnet.com/freemm.htm 01.27.17 # thank you 01.27.23 # * petur closes the browser with google before he fills the channel with links 01.27.54 # how can we ever deny the greatness of google's links? haha.... 01.28.20 # petur: could have just pasted the results page link ;) 01.28.32 # sure 01.28.39 # but then it looks like you're lazy. 01.29.00 # which I am :D 01.29.24 # sharpe: I don't see YOU getting anything productive done. 01.29.27 # * BHSPitMonkey pets petur 01.29.41 # good boy. 01.29.42 # hey, i'm building the cross-compiler for mingw, so just shut it. :D 01.29.50 # nice. 01.30.08 # actually binutils right now... 01.30.10 # I'm putting Dave Chappelle on my iPod :P 01.30.18 # equally productive 01.32.13 # indeed. 01.32.39 # hah, something failed to build in binutils, lets pretend it didn't... 01.32.51 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 01.33.32 # morning all 01.33.46 # g'evening 01.34.09 Quit EbErT () 01.35.02 # hahaha, for those with low-capacity-players: http://www.thesto.com/surprisemyportable/index.html 01.35.31 # heh... 01.35.54 # hello 01.36.06 # <---getting ready to install rockbox for 1st time 01.36.30 # I once did a shuffle-all on my collection, it drove me mad: mixing classical music with punkrock just doesn't work 01.38.41 # yep 01.39.09 # although that's not what bothered me, what bothered me are a couple of video game soundtracks interrupting real music half the time... 01.39.44 # hrm... 01.40.12 # lets just pretend i never tried the crosscompiler with mingw. 01.40.18 # well depends on which video game soundtracks u have in there... red alert music goes well with my music collentcino 01.42.39 # well, not nintendo64 MIDI-sounding music :/ 01.42.53 # haha 01.43.09 # BOSS BATTLE from zelda doesn't quite fit after moonlight sonata 01.43.35 # there should be a Shuffle Exclusion flag in iTunes 01.43.52 # * BHSPitMonkey regrets making an iTunes suggestion in #rockbox 01.44.07 # * sharpe shuns BHSPitMonkey. 01.44.11 # ouch 01.45.46 # i still can't decide for a gift, music, or a season dvd set? 01.46.33 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp119-247.adsl.forthnet.gr) 01.48.00 # sharpe: a gift to give, or to recieve? :) 01.48.04 # give 01.48.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.48.36 # ... then go with cash/giftcard 01.48.46 # ... 01.48.51 # i don't wanna? 01.48.54 # :P 01.48.59 # :D 01.49.05 # gift for a friend i haven't seen since last year 01.49.16 # is one of your requirements "must be obtainable from piratebay.org" or something? 01.49.20 # :) 01.49.27 # nope... i'm going to buy it... 01.49.45 # make a mix cd 01.49.51 # it's more thoughtful than a regular cd 01.49.56 # the only problem is, with the dvds, the fourth part of the season dvd isn't out yet. 01.50.10 # which series? 01.50.14 # avatar :) 01.50.20 # avatar? 01.50.25 # avater? 01.50.26 # aye. cartoon. 01.50.38 # what happened with my vowels there, I wonder... 01.50.54 # heheh... 01.51.14 # when the hell is scrubs season 4 coming to dvd in oz?? 01.52.29 # according to amazon, never, as it isn't listed. 01.52.48 # so amazon has written it 01.52.51 # so it shall be done. 01.53.09 # the widely overlooked eleventh commandment. 01.55.34 # so... 01.55.50 # what plugin should sharpe attempt to make next? 01.56.04 # what happened to the c64 emulator? 01.56.16 # er, nothing really. 01.56.51 # it remembered the current year is 2006, so it went away. 01.57.09 # someone port a wine plugin! 01.57.10 # it can only come back in years that are divisible by 64. 01.57.44 # wine? 01.57.57 # as in linux windows emu? 01.58.13 # no, as in a liquid based plugin. :D 01.58.16 # as in, wine is not an emulator :P 01.58.42 # i thought about an x86 emulator for a few minutes 01.58.44 # actually, that seems more of an iPodLinux dream than a rockbox one 01.58.58 # http://pastebin.com/756735 01.58.59 # sharpe: took you that long to reach the conclusion? :P 01.59.05 # thats the output from my fdisk -l 01.59.08 Quit obo ("bye") 01.59.18 # where did you come from?! 01.59.23 # sandman# dd if=/dev/da4s1 of=bootpartition.bin 01.59.24 # dd: /dev/da4s1: No such file or directory 01.59.34 # * ritalin doesnt get it 02.00.11 # and im on freebsd is you were wondering about funky naming 02.00.29 # u dont have dd installed.. 02.00.40 # its in base i though 02.00.52 # aparently not.. 02.00.55 # it is 02.00.56 # sandman# dd if=/dev/da4 of=mbr.bin count=1 02.00.56 # 1+0 records in 02.00.56 DBUG Enqueued KICK ritalin 02.00.56 # 1+0 records out 02.00.56 # 512 bytes transferred in 1.478298 secs (346 bytes/sec) 02.00.59 # cause i did that 02.01.16 # oh.. ok 02.01.26 # /dev/da4s1 is wrong 02.01.37 # so /dev/da4s1 is the one that doesn't exist 02.01.50 # so 02.01.53 # do 2? 02.02.26 # what happens when you do ls /dev/da4* 02.02.47 # sandman# ls /dev/da4* 02.02.48 # /dev/da4 /dev/da4s2 02.02.51 # o 02.02.55 # yeah your right 02.03.33 # dd if=/dev/da4 of=bootpartition.bin 02.03.37 # that would be correct? 02.03.46 # hmm 02.04.03 # that should output the entire drive, though 02.04.16 # no, isnt that hte mbr or something 02.04.30 # perhaps you need to use the bs= modifier for as long as the first partition goes 02.04.35 # damn my farts stink this morning.. 02.04.37 # JdGordon: not if BSD is like linux at all 02.04.57 # its not on alot of things ive been finding out :/ 02.05.07 # so switch to linux :) 02.05.11 # no way 02.05.13 # fbsd rocks 02.05.21 # as does linux... 02.05.24 # true 02.05.28 # but fbsd does more :P 02.05.31 # penguins over daemons! 02.05.35 # nein! 02.05.37 # lies! 02.05.37 # ok 02.05.40 # i have windows 02.05.45 # maybe i should try installer 02.05.49 # maybe. 02.05.57 # maybe... 02.06.25 # the problem is, bsd isn't making a /dev device for that first partition (because it shows up as just unpartitioned space) 02.06.26 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 02.06.26 # * ritalin wants to listen to his Wagner WavPacks :( 02.06.31 # any1 here with admin permissions on flyspray? 02.06.41 # for? 02.06.43 # linux would show a device file for it... 02.06.50 # lol 02.07.04 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5489 <- marked as a bug not patch 02.07.18 # and if i install on windows i can use it on freebsd? 02.07.26 # its same version of rockbox? 02.07.49 # JdGordon: done 02.07.53 # :) 02.08.08 # herroooooooo 02.08.25 # ritalin: yes, it's no different. 02.08.47 # kk 02.08.48 # <3 02.08.49 # ty 02.12.11 Join Sinbios [0] (n=Sinbios@Kingston-HSE-ppp3562501.sympatico.ca) 02.16.49 Quit TeaSea ("Leaving") 02.21.02 Join hardeep [0] (n=hardeep@c-67-188-108-180.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 02.22.45 Quit petur ("*poof*") 02.29.24 Join moda|ASOT [0] (i=modafrom@CPE-138-130-209-183.qld.bigpond.net.au) 02.29.27 # sigh 02.29.47 # http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=42689 ? 02.29.48 # ] 02.30.23 # moda|ASOT: saw a 30g ipod video for $320 if your after a decent priced hdd? 02.31.18 # nah... 02.31.28 # if it turns out i can rma it with rockbox on.... umm...yea 02.31.55 # if its dead enough that they cant turn it on then they shouldnt have a problem with the rma... 02.32.08 # heh 02.32.15 # cept i heard they will just send u a h10 instead coz they dont sell h340's anymore 02.32.20 # it still turns on, comes up with rockbox..... 02.32.39 # JdGordon: nah, i rmad it back in december and they gave me a h340 02.32.46 # but, that was 6 months ago 02.35.33 Quit rretzbach (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.37.02 Join gasdgasdg [0] (n=Sinbios@HSE-Toronto-ppp302003.sympatico.ca) 02.37.25 Quit Sinbios (Nick collision from services.) 02.37.26 Nick gasdgasdg is now known as Sinbios (n=Sinbios@HSE-Toronto-ppp302003.sympatico.ca) 02.40.30 # hrm :| 02.40.58 # so how much would a dead h340 with all the accessories and a silicone case be worth? 02.41.01 # :p 02.41.29 # duno.. but id buy your usb-otg cable and remote if your selling 02.41.37 # :p 02.42.10 # just wondering if its worth stuffing around with it to try and get it fixed, or just sell it and buy an ipod video / gigabeat s 02.42.34 # whats the problem with it? 02.42.48 # i think the hdd is dead, it wont detect 02.43.40 # got any firends with ipods that will le u open it up? 02.43.50 # nope 02.44.14 # buy one of these http://www.addonics.com/products/io/aaedt18IDE25.asp 02.45.06 # i wish i could source one locally 02.46.19 # you can exchange the HD 02.46.33 # if it's really the hd, that is 02.46.42 # how so Kohlrabi? 02.46.55 # well, I just read it somewhere 02.46.59 # ask on ocau if there is some1 willing to help u out... im sure there would be 02.47.07 # ive already asked, noone 02.47.14 # I try to dig it up 02.47.16 # damn 02.47.29 # well, noone who has a dead ipod/1.8inch drive anyway 02.47.41 # misticriver should know :) 02.47.48 # hm? 02.48.01 # see if any1 has an ipod out of warrenty and doesnt mind having it opened to check if your hdd is dead 02.49.06 # http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=9308 02.49.08 # theres a guy in melbourne whos opened his h340 and put in another battery that said if i cant find anyone he will have a look 02.49.18 # look at this thread 02.49.22 # about replacing HD 02.49.38 # Kohlrabi: i know, but 40gb hdds are extremely expensive 02.49.48 # ye, ive opened mine a frew times, if u run out of options send it down and ill check it out if u want 02.49.50 # um 02.49.55 # OK, that's a point 02.50.05 # Maybe put 20gb in 02.50.11 # *cough* 02.50.49 # hrm 02.51.09 # who are you on ocau JdGordon? 02.51.25 # SaTaN 02.51.28 # ahh 02.52.07 # http://cgi.ebay.com.au/USB-2-0-External-Hard-Drive-Case-for-Toshiba-1-8-HDD_W0QQitemZ6886338178QQcategoryZ31567QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 02.52.37 # hrm 02.53.14 # ahh hell with it, ill just get one of those... to atleast check that its the hdd or not 02.53.14 # that will let u know if the disk or player is dead... if its the disk then rma it, if its the player u got a nice big external hdd and go buy an ipod.. 02.53.32 # true eh 02.54.00 # if its the disk, then i still need to source another on to flash it to the original firmware and then rma it :p 02.54.30 # no u dont.. if its the disk they wont be able to know uve got rb on it.. 02.54.37 # how far can u boot? 02.55.33 # it starts rockbox bootloader, gets to the part where it starts loading it from the hdd and then just comes up with an error saying ata11 error... please press a button and insert a usb cable 02.55.47 # its still noticably the rockbox bootloader 02.55.49 # ah ok 02.56.05 # damn :p 02.56.08 # yea 02.59.06 # hrm... what a crazy name 02.59.12 # im off.. if u cant fnd any1 closer to help u out just lemme know 02.59.19 # which name? 02.59.51 # the guy who runs that ebay store :p 03.07.34 # sigh 03.13.30 # anyone know how the %pb thing suppose to work in wps' ? 03.14.25 Quit Kohlrabi (Nick collision from services.) 03.14.45 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-134-237.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.18.57 Join scorche` [0] (n=18cdc209@labb.contactor.se) 03.23.34 Quit XavierGr ("Watch anime, saiyu sen jiko yo!") 03.25.43 Join ts-x [0] (n=0cad6dbb@labb.contactor.se) 03.27.11 # BioVorE: Sure, what's your question (about the %pb)... 03.30.13 # I want to put a progress bar at 100x0 03.30.31 # %pb 0|0|100|0 03.30.32 # ? 03.30.55 # tryed a bunch of thing.. but dosn't seem to work as discribed in the documentation 03.31.35 # (using a Iaudio X5) 03.31.49 # %pb uses the whole line 03.31.56 # so u just put %pb where u want it 03.32.00 # nothing else on the line 03.32.05 # Well you're specifying a progress bar height of -0-, that's not good 03.32.13 # %pd can be sized as well 03.32.18 # or %pb 03.32.25 # well I have a pb.bmp graphic 03.32.27 # * JdGordon runs away 03.32.42 # I want it 28 pix from the bottom of the screen 03.32.51 # the bmp is the full width of the screen 03.32.59 # (160x128 on iaudio x5) 03.33.20 # Ahhhhh - you can't specifiy coordinate specific locations, only line specific 03.33.33 # oh 03.33.52 # whats the hight,leftpos,rightpos do thing? 03.33.54 # (then 03.34.24 # They allow you to create a sized pb, e.g. half the line etc. 03.34.40 # ok 03.35.08 # now I have to figure out how to put this pb at the bottom of the screen.. it stuck to the top atm 03.35.20 # You'll want to put the %pb tag in the last visible line of your wps 03.35.34 # ok I'll try that 03.35.36 # The line you specify is the actual line it will appear on 03.35.56 # Kind of tricky because depending on your font it could be a different line 03.35.57 # can you have empty lines to give some space? (if so whats the flag for that?) 03.36.01 # Yes 03.36.08 # Just a blank line... 03.36.21 # ok simple enough.. I'll give it a shot and see what happens 03.36.42 # Good luck - it's really quite cool what you can do with the wps code once you've mastered it 03.37.29 # If you haven't seen it already => http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIaudioX5 03.37.54 # Just install this stuff today on my IAudio 03.38.06 # so just figuring out your all's methods 03.38.21 # very cool system though.. :-) 03.38.31 # This is also very helpful => http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS 03.38.44 # ^ thats the one I am looking at now. 03.40.03 # Looking at the wps code behind the wps' in the gallery can be quite helpful too 03.40.23 # that what I kinda doing.. 03.42.14 # ok it worked.. I am very close now.. 03.42.21 # thanks 03.43.09 # Great...actually in looking at the wps wiki, it looks like it is missing info about transparent images 03.43.13 # * ts-x goes to fix 03.47.53 Quit Kohlrabi ("Hello my name is CoolClonk .") 03.48.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.56.54 # anyone know if there planes to get mpeg4 video working on IAudio X5? 03.56.59 # (plans) 03.57.34 # I'm sure it will come eventually, but doesn't seem to be a priority right now 03.59.40 # rgr, the only thing is probably worth it is the video ipod 03.59.49 # I audio screen is too low res 04.00.11 Quit grumillo ("Leaving") 04.00.40 # The iAudio firmware supports some sort of video playback right? 04.00.42 Join Falco98 [0] (n=chatzill@cpe-024-088-106-250.sc.res.rr.com) 04.00.58 # yeah.. mpeg4 15fps (FFMPEG) 04.01.41 # * ts-x doesn't have an iAudio 04.04.15 # 1 thing I can say is the the rockbox defenilty is alot faster then the iaudio's native filmware 04.04.27 # when changing songs 04.04.53 # Same for iRiver...the iRiver default firmware was sloooooooow 04.05.20 # the iaudio filmware freeks when changing from ogg/mp3 to flac.. and dosn't like mp4 very well (cant skip forward in the song) 04.05.46 # but seems to very smooth on here. 04.05.54 # with rockbox 04.06.15 # Scrolling through directories in the stock iRiver firmware was almost unbearably slow - yes Rockbox is night and day better 04.06.47 # I like it too because the source code for the OS if avalible if I get ambisious 04.07.07 Quit Aghaster (Remote closed the connection) 04.12.58 Quit scorche` ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 04.14.32 # sighj 04.15.29 # Hey does anyone else who's around know which BMP formats the grayscale screens support? I'm pretty sure some of them support multi-shade grayscale images. I'm trying to update the wps wiki... 04.16.05 Join thePianoMan [0] (n=83ac042c@labb.contactor.se) 04.16.05 # good question... 04.16.41 # as far as i've been led to believe the H1X0's support 2-bit color only, though i'd like someone to prove that wrong :-P 04.19.08 # They support 1-bit as well. 2-bit is four level grayscale right? 04.20.01 Quit mirak (Connection timed out) 04.24.30 # Well if someone more knowledgable in the BMP arena reads the logs, please update the table here => http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS ;) 04.25.45 # hm. i thought 2-bit was 2-color 04.25.55 # oh. wait. 04.26.00 # my bad :) 04.26.01 # Google tells me it's 4 :) 04.26.11 # yeah i just did the math more carefully in my head. 04.26.28 # i was getting 1-bit and 2-bit confused (since 1-bit is "2 possibility") 04.26.51 # I think 2-bit is what some of the grayscales support, but I'm not sure which ones 04.27.07 # well i hope you're right and i hope someone figures it out :-P 04.28.51 # More complete wiki = fewer forum/IRC questions :) 04.29.39 Join Aghaster [0] (n=Aghaster@modemcable010.69-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) 04.33.15 # man i wish 3.0 would hurry up and come out :-P 04.33.20 # * Falco98 ducks quickly..... 04.34.18 # just i'm tired of having to manually patch-in the nice little patches JdGordon and I wrote whenever i update.. and they stand a good chance of getting into source, but only after the freeze ends... 04.35.14 # hehe 04.35.40 # hi Falco98 04.35.42 # how are you? 04.35.53 # hey 04.35.55 # not bad.. you? 04.35.59 # i'm fine 04.38.08 # Falco, do you think anti-aliasing fonts will ever be implemented in rockbox? 04.38.14 # that would be a nice feature, i think 04.38.22 # it would help to make it more attractive to the eye 04.38.38 # ever is a long time 04.38.49 # it would requre grayscale, in the case of the B&W models 04.39.14 # but for the 2-bit-shaded and higher-color models, wouldn't it simply take multi-colored fonts? 04.39.29 # yeah, well, i think we would need to keep the current font system for people who would be better off the 2 colors fonts 04.39.46 # hum... yeah 04.39.51 # multi-colored fonts 04.40.01 Nick _Lucretia is now known as _Lucretia_ (n=munkee@dyn-62-56-101-193.dslaccess.co.uk) 04.40.07 # ^ that would probably be cool 04.40.08 # well as with most other stuff that's model-specific, wouldn't it be not-too-hard (even if time consuming) to diverge the font sets? 04.40.14 # but what if we wanna put colors in background that aren't plain? 04.40.32 # sounds like you'd need alpha-blending 04.40.38 # I mean, in the end we would end up with something that could be made to be as good looking as the apple firmware 04.40.39 # plus, concievably, one could make a multi-colored font that looks anti-aliased on a multicolor display, but B&W on a B&W display 04.40.56 # (though that would take very careful planning in the development stage i guess) 04.41.09 # :/ 04.41.15 # Well, its just a feature i'd like to see 04.41.28 # there was a request for that by someone else, but i'd like that too 04.41.36 # thePianoMan: yeah you're probably right, accounting for colored backgrounds and stuff 04.42.56 # if we can get anti-aliased fonts with alpha-blending, we could then make skins for the browsing menu 04.43.06 # and make something that looks like apple's original firmware 04.43.30 # why would we want something that looks like apple's original firmware? 04.43.46 # not like apple's firmware, but something that can be far more good looking 04.43.52 # granted 04.44.29 # i think more people would be using rockbox if it had the ability to be more of an eye-candy 04.44.56 # "normal people" say the interface is ugly 04.45.23 # I've made a PNG-based font replica of the original font, if it matters.. 04.45.28 # Podium Sans 04.45.34 # lolz 04.45.46 # original font of apple's firmware? 04.46.02 # also, you can get .ttf's from the 5G's rsrc partition (but they're abnormal, I dunno how to use them) 04.46.08 #