--- Log for 05.06.106 Server: clarke.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot- Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 2 months and 11 days ago 00.01.25 Part tucoz ("Leaving") 00.06.45 # what options would be good to include in an installer? 00.06.59 # wow, how vague can that get... 00.07.15 Quit lee-qid__ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 00.08.16 # sharpe: you wanna code an installer for rockbox? 00.08.33 # yeh, nothing better to do. ;) 00.08.35 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.10.48 # can't work on any plugins, as i don't have anything to do with them. er, develop them. 00.11.09 # I was thinking about a web installer. 00.11.27 # hmm? 00.11.40 # some small wizard which would download the latest stable / daily / cvs and updating the files on the dap itself. 00.12.02 Join haykuro [0] (n=haykuro@c-66-176-103-13.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 00.12.16 # like, you have an updater.exe in the root of your player and when you want to update simply run it. 00.12.32 # it wouldn't be a web installer then... :D 00.12.47 # hello, i have iPL installed with Loader 2.4 and i tried putting rockbox onto my ipod but it doenst load. it isnt a loader error (i just confirmed this with the creator of the loader with a debug). 00.12.49 # it asks about which version to install, about installing plugins or not ... 00.12.52 # and so on ;-) 00.13.10 # guys, i think the 29th language for rockbox will be ready tonight 00.13.23 # which language would this be? 00.13.25 # the loader automaticly detects that rockbox is present (i extracted rockbox.ipod and the .rockbox directory to my ipod but it doesnt load) 00.13.26 # esperanto? 00.13.48 Quit NYC ("ircN 7.27 + 7.0 for mIRC (2002/01/10 00.00)") 00.14.03 # haykuro: does the bootloader give any error? 00.14.12 # nopoe 00.14.14 # nope* 00.14.17 # i debugged the loading session 00.14.20 # now error given 00.14.23 # no* 00.14.46 # it detects its the rockbox for nano, it detects everything fine 00.14.49 # then once it reaches the point 00.14.53 # Esperanto 00.15.10 # where it shows the rockbox gui it doesnt load it hangs 00.16.16 # are there actual people who prefer speaking Esperanto? 00.16.37 # Esperantia natives? ;-) 00.16.55 # esperanto doesn't belong to a country... 00.17.08 # ..? 00.17.18 # * RaeNye knew that 00.17.19 # i prefer to have my ipod in Esperanto 00.17.22 # markun does too 00.17.24 # any idea? 00.17.30 # he's waiting for my translation 00.17.31 # hehe 00.18.05 # bluebrother: want me to write the updater? :D 00.18.05 # why would you *know* esperanto? 00.18.06 Join _spanner_ [0] (n=pete@82.138.219.95) 00.18.37 # sharpe? 00.18.39 # For the simple reason that I learned it and speak it on a regular base? 00.18.48 # haykuro: i can't think of what would be wrong with it. 00.19.01 # okay, thank you 00.19.09 Part haykuro 00.19.14 # hmm. where are you from? 00.19.20 # Quebec 00.19.23 # asl? 00.19.25 # :P 00.19.30 # Esperanto doesn't belong to any country 00.20.10 # I know, i know. Zamenhoff invented it some 100 years ago 00.20.19 # lets see... install, update, uninstall, what else? 00.20.34 # Ludovic Zamenhof, in 1887, in Varsovia 00.20.40 # :P 00.20.56 # sharpe: grab the manual as well? 00.21.07 # sharpe, if you're bored otherwise ... ;-) 00.21.25 # anyone have any objections to c#? 00.21.37 # Yes, me. 00.21.42 # Why not C++? 00.21.49 # It was just an idea I had, so I guess I could make a nice programming exercise for me. But this shouldn't stop you from doing so. 00.21.50 # i don't do c++ ? 00.21.56 # You wanna code an installer? 00.22.05 # why not code it in Qt? 00.22.22 # I was thinking of c++ with qt -- avaliable on windows, linux and macos :) 00.22.30 # Cassandra was working on one using WxWidgets 00.22.34 # yeah, that's what i was about to suggest 00.22.49 # I've been on wxwidgets for long, but Qt seems superior 00.22.51 # i was thinking the gnu implementation of it 00.22.52 Join anathema [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust696.belf.cable.ntl.com) 00.22.55 # I've tried some Qt 00.23.08 # ah. I wanted to ask about that for quite some time, but ... 00.23.10 # I own the wxwidgets book 00.23.11 # hehe 00.23.12 # never mind. 00.23.20 # but won't really use it again 00.23.25 # never used wxwidget, but I want to lern qt. 00.23.40 # which was the cause for my idea ;-) 00.23.43 # yeah, good idea 00.23.49 # i was impression by the Qt designer 00.23.57 # it made me code 100x faster 00.23.58 # lol 00.24.11 # <_spanner_> Forgive me if this gets asked a lot, or is a sore topic: I was thinking of buying an iaudio x5 (I have a large vorbis collection) but recently ipod video + rockbox is looking attractive. Any recommendations either way? 00.24.52 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 00.25.02 # aghaster: Varsovia=Warsaw? 00.26.08 # lets see... what about, pike? 00.27.16 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-50-225.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) 00.27.18 # is warsaw in polland? 00.27.24 # <_spanner_> (Specifically thinking about battery life?) 00.27.55 # spanner: battery life will be significantly less with rockbox 00.29.06 # <_spanner_> Aghaster: annoyingly so? And is that true of rockbox on all platforms, or just ipod at the moment? 00.29.58 # ipods, really. 00.30.03 # Warsaw is the capital of Poland, yeah 00.30.08 # many other players have longer battery life with rockbox. 00.30.13 # then yeah, thats the good city 00.30.16 # Rae 00.30.59 # <_spanner_> Also in terms of dicking about with the code: can you easily get compilers for both ipod & x5? (I don't even know what chips they use...) 00.31.32 # on linux its very easy 00.31.36 Join ravenhawke [0] (n=ravenhaw@207-118-207-33.dyn.centurytel.net) 00.31.39 # <_spanner_> oh, cool 00.31.40 # the cross compilers are available as cygwin packages 00.31.41 # otherwise if you're on windows you'll use linux tools 00.31.42 # lol 00.31.45 # so on windows it's very easy too :) 00.31.53 # <_spanner_> can gcc compile to both? :) 00.32.03 # arm-elf-gcc for the ipod 00.32.22 # there is a script for linux that download and install the toolchains automatically 00.32.41 Quit Kohlriba (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.35.16 # (not that crossdev on gentoo leaves much room for mistakes) 00.35.20 # <_spanner_> Great... I'm leaning toward the ipod mainly for the nicer screen. Who knows, maybe I could turn a hand to the code too. Thanks. Can't wait to get rockbox installed (just waiting for insurance cheque for lost H340 :( ) 00.35.49 # it's pretty much 5 commands to install the tool chain manually... 00.36.30 # I'm sure you could get it to one long line with pipes if you try :) 00.36.37 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-134-201.pools.arcor-ip.net) 00.36.53 # <_spanner_> is the toolchain fairly self-contained? I use gcc 4.1 fairly heavily on the rest of my system & wouldn't want too much conflict...? 00.37.13 # yes, you can install it in ~/rockbox.gcc if you want 00.37.13 # no conflict 00.37.15 # you can install it alongside with your existing toolchain. 00.37.39 # arm-elf-gcc is a separate package from gcc, and etc etc 00.37.52 # I have two different versions of arm-elf-gcc side by side 00.37.52 # I've installed arm-elf-gcc and m68k-elf-gcc system wide to /usr/local, no problems at all. 00.38.01 # ditto 00.38.27 # rockbox do movies yet? 00.38.42 # <_spanner_> That's nice! Someone's obviously gone to great lengths to make it easy. Thanks! 00.39.06 # * ritalin kinda liked the novelty of having a pornPod 00.39.09 # iPorn 00.39.51 # <_spanner_> Doesn't the apple firmware do h264? or did I just make that up? 00.42.11 # yeh 00.42.25 Join m0nk_ [0] (n=m0nk@ppp-70-129-111-36.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) 00.42.28 # hey guys 00.44.56 Quit bluebrother ("Leaving") 00.46.35 Quit rkd ("Konversation terminated!") 00.47.49 # hi m0nk 00.49.44 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.51.28 # hi aghaster...sorry i was n00bing out 00.51.39 # ok 00.51.50 # watching my cousin play halo....whats up? 00.52.16 # I'm almost finished translating rockbox to esperanto 00.52.25 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.52.27 # cool 00.52.39 # im curious as to how devel is goin on the gigabeat:( 00.52.52 # i was in the gigabeat room but it seemed dead in there i guess the people are busy 00.53.03 # do you have any clue? 00.53.04 # ok 00.53.06 # i dont know 00.53.20 # I don't know anything about the gigabeat 00.53.25 # i have an ipod :P 00.53.31 # damn o well....good for you though 00.53.39 # ewwwwwww!!!!111111 IPOD 00.53.42 Quit ender` (" Only thing made by Microsoft that wouldn't suck would be MS Vacuum Cleaner!") 00.53.46 # lol just just playin 00.53.53 # lawl 00.54.15 # lol... 00.54.19 # okay... 00.54.44 Quit Kohlrabi (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.54.49 # im not a fan of ipod.....or apple for that matter or microsoft 00.55.06 Join RoC_MM [0] (i=dragon@dsl-29-8.cofs.net) 00.56.02 # Yeah, well, I wasn't too much sensible to DRM when i bought my ipod 00.56.09 # lol 00.56.14 # i was a bit manipulated by Apple's publicity 00.56.21 # and thought i needed an ipod in order to be cool 00.56.35 # lol a few years ago i would've bought an ipod because they were cool 00.56.50 # now i see them as overpriced BS 00.57.02 # my next player probably won't be an ipod 00.57.08 # but another model rockbox runs on 00.57.09 # hehe 00.57.11 # lol 00.57.18 # with better battery life XD 00.57.20 # haha 00.57.29 # im waitin for rock box for my gigabeat.....i get 16 hours of battery as is 00.57.34 # well, ipod's hardware isn't bad 00.57.46 # i like the click wheel 00.58.03 # what's the gigabeat, btw? 00.58.05 # ahh i like that too, but its not something that would make me 00.58.07 # what are its specs? 00.58.14 # o shit....lol i will ook them up 00.58.25 # ipods? 00.58.28 # the gigabeat is an mp3 player made by toshiba.....let me get some specs 00.58.42 # uh, toshiba? 00.59.18 # yeah.....my dad got it for me....the stuff toshiba makes can take a total ass kicking 01.00.24 # what's so ass kicking about it? 01.01.13 Join racestoapril1 [0] (n=seth1991@dpc6746143247.direcpc.com) 01.01.27 # lol well...my laptop held up for a year *in my hands* its about prolly 8 years old 01.01.46 # and i've beaten the shit out of dells....and all other laptop brands 01.02.23 Quit _spanner_ ("Leaving") 01.02.36 # ...and i would take my laptop to school in my bookbag*not padded btw* 01.02.52 # and i got slammed into a few walls one day while ruffing up my friend 01.02.59 # ...worked just fine when needed 01.03.21 Join Phobiac [0] (n=40e9ad55@labb.contactor.se) 01.03.42 Part racestoapril1 01.04.36 # the ipod nano pretty ass kicking too you know 01.04.47 # lol 01.04.48 # http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/nano.ars/3 01.05.08 # i dont have hardware specs to back myself yet....gimmie a second 01.06.02 # damn lol 01.06.02 # In a final act of desperation, we decided to expose the iPod to a catastrophic event that would certainly destroy it. Lacking a really high place to drop the nano from, we decided the throw the nano as high as we could, say 40 feet into the air, and let it land--hard--on the concrete. 01.06.46 # id try and prove my gigabeat could withstand that.....but i would be scared to.... 01.06.54 # too precious....too expensive lol 01.07.18 # I can believe it, the Nano is packed tight enough that it's insides wouldn't move enough to cause much damge. 01.07.47 # well, also figure in that the nano doesnt use a hard drive 01.07.48 # I heard they are easy to snap in half though, although I'd rather not test it with mine to find out. 01.08.05 # hard drives break EASY 01.08.28 # the whole reason I got it was because it doesn't have a hard drive 01.08.32 # lol 01.08.35 # well, and that it runs rockbox 01.09.35 Quit Phobiac ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.11.04 # i've seen screenshots of rock box...i like it 01.12.37 # * ritalin has a pretty rockbox 01.12.47 # Rockbox is the best. (period) 01.13.07 # except on battery 01.13.11 # and ipod video :P 01.13.49 # I disagree. on all targets it has been released on (and the h1xx which is very close to release) it's the best. 01.15.16 # Improbable feature req #3: patch OF to incorporate "Reboot to Rockbox" in the menu 01.15.33 # ritalin: Re: battery. I get MORE battery life with Rockbox than stock on my H120. 01.16.36 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-134-201.pools.arcor-ip.net) 01.17.49 # I get more features than stock on my 4G grey iPod. 01.17.56 Join Phobiac [0] (n=40e9ad55@labb.contactor.se) 01.18.11 # *dies* must kill cousin in halo 01.18.12 # * RaeNye snaps his finger 01.18.12 Quit m0nk_ ("Leaving") 01.18.13 # And since I don't use the stock firmware and never was, stock potential battery life is unknown and irrelevant to me. 01.18.17 Quit RaeNye ("CGI:IRC 0.5.7 (2005/06/19)") 01.18.39 # then how do you know you get more features than stock? 01.18.40 # the 2 year old ipod could use a new or new and better battery, but between 5-6 hours is fine for me. 01.18.41 # ;) 01.18.59 # I just know 01.19.11 # I get around 18.5-19.2 hours using RB and only about 15.5-16 on stock (h120) 01.19.17 # well, I'm still waiting for that status on the 5G 01.19.18 # Rockbox gives me this warm fuzzy feeling, and I know I wasn't getting that stock. 01.19.26 # so until then, it's apple os for me.. 01.19.32 # lol RoC_MM 01.20.01 # Also 01.20.21 # 4g grey now has a battery indicator...before it wasn't working in rockbox like 3 months ago...I see progress and improvement... 01.20.25 # My nano's battery life has gone done, but that's most likely because I use it a lot more since putting Rockbox on it. 01.20.27 # the stock firmware still can't play VBR mp3's. 01.20.48 # when rockbox gets to playing my mp4's, I'll dive right in 01.20.53 # 5G video works for my brother with Rockbox...he runs it full-time. 01.21.33 # down* 01.21.45 Quit obo ("bye") 01.22.09 Part ravenhawke ("Kopete 0.11.3 : http://kopete.kde.org") 01.22.13 # I'll definately avoid mp4's...I know those don't work underwater. 01.22.21 # All my music is either mp3 or ogg (now) 01.22.26 Join ravenhawke [0] (n=ravenhaw@207-118-207-33.dyn.centurytel.net) 01.22.26 # "fo' sho' " 01.23.26 Quit Phobiac ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.39.36 Quit evilnick () 01.41.15 Quit Sinbios (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.41.20 Join Sinbios [0] (n=Sinbios@Kingston-HSE-ppp3560871.sympatico.ca) 01.44.06 Quit RoC_MM (Remote closed the connection) 01.45.17 Join akaidiota [0] (n=not@84-217-81-44.tn.glocalnet.net) 01.45.23 Nick hannesd_ is now known as hannesd (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 01.45.29 Quit akaidiot (Nick collision from services.) 01.45.31 Nick akaidiota is now known as akaidiot (n=not@84-217-81-44.tn.glocalnet.net) 01.45.41 Join webguest18 [0] (n=44a034dd@labb.contactor.se) 01.46.02 # TRANSLATION COMPLETE. 01.46.05 # :D:D:D 01.46.12 # hours and hours of work later 01.46.14 # lol 01.46.31 # hey, if i install rockbox, am i able to multiboot between Apple OS, Disk mode and Rockbox? 01.46.37 # yes 01.46.41 # cool 01.46.43 # thanks 01.46.52 # not with a menu.. 01.46.57 # hmm 01.46.58 # but you can access all three, yes. 01.47.26 # i see. Is it difficult to switch between them? 01.47.41 Join earHertz [0] (n=chatzill@c-24-30-242-135.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 01.47.43 # you have to turn the thing off and back on to switch 01.47.57 # oh ok 01.47.58 # thanks 01.48.01 # yes. you hold MENU just after turning it on to reach the apple OS.. 01.48.02 # is it me, or is installing slackware a pain in teh ass? 01.48.13 # and select+play for disk mode. or you can just connect USB within rockbox and you'll move to disk mode automatically. 01.48.13 # thank you 01.48.16 # np 01.48.25 # installing it is not as hard as keeping it up to date 01.48.37 Quit webguest18 (Client Quit) 01.48.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.49.26 # Oh, you've got to be kidding. Debian and Ubuntu both install easily from teh cd and put my in an X-session. Slackware installs from a cd but still thinks the flopy is teh boot drive 01.50.03 # and I had to use fdisk, etc. 01.50.07 # * Galois whacks earHertz around a bit with a gentoo stage 1 install 01.50.27 # one thing I like about slackware is that it installs just about everything if I tell it to' 01.51.44 # what distro is easy to install, but also installs teh whole frigging kitchen sink too? 01.53.57 # define "teh frigging kitchen sink"? 01.54.08 # * Aghaster loves gentoo 01.55.03 # Aghaster: gcc, make, cvs, subversion -- all dev tools. and samba 01.55.58 # bah, you emerge them? 01.56.05 # lol 01.57.30 # Aghaster: what, I should compile them from source? 01.57.48 # gentoo compiles everything from source 01.58.16 # Aghaster: amd this will benefit me how much? I'm running the dasmned thing in vmware 01.58.48 # what about kubuntu? easy to install, kde, lots of packages on install? 01.58.50 # earHertz: Removing your windows system will benefit far more 01.59.00 # errr, kubuntu 01.59.10 # go debian instead if you're about to do that? 01.59.17 # Aghaster: yeah, and I'll vote libertarian (or green party) and wonder how Bush beats Gore 01.59.20 # ubuntu is better though 01.59.48 # hum. you're speaking to someone kinda hippie, ya know 02.00.03 # Aghaster: good for you. ;) 02.00.08 # debian releases once every three years. ubuntu releases once every six months. winnar: ubuntu. 02.00.12 # but I'm tryig to get a result, niot remain pure. ;) 02.00.23 # Galois: Simply use debian testing... 02.00.38 # Galois: and kubuntu is just ubuntu with kde instead of gnome? 02.00.44 # yeah 02.00.46 # thats it 02.00.49 # the idea that a normal user should avoid the stable distribution is just morally wrong 02.01.13 # I don't consider myself a normal user 02.01.21 # jesus. I've installed debian, ubuntu, not slackware. 02.01.27 # Fourth try is the charm? 02.01.28 # try gentoo! 02.01.43 # what in the world is wrong with redhat? 02.01.51 # If you think you can't fall in love with a distro, you will change your mind after installing gentoo (as native) 02.02.05 # Galois: Its a commercial distro. it uses rpm. let it die 02.02.24 # distro wars on irc = not good idea 02.02.28 # lol 02.02.31 # gentoo is nice 02.02.35 # :) 02.02.38 # but the hassle isnt worth the speed enhancement 02.02.51 # Bah, i don't use it full speed you know 02.03.02 # i just prefer how i can easily customize it 02.03.05 # yea 02.03.17 # thats probably the nicest thing about it 02.03.21 # yup 02.03.29 # i run 32bit on my amd64 processor 02.03.45 # but i run gentoo because its very easy to customize 02.03.51 # gentoo doesn't scale. It's great for one machine. I have more than one machine. Yes you can force gentoo into this scenario but by the time you're done you've done more work than with the other alternatives. 02.04.13 # Galois: Installing gentoo is an adventure in itself 02.04.31 # Don't take it as a work, take it as an adventure :P 02.04.45 # I have a machine upstairs with 10 distros installed. That machine is not used for work. 02.05.04 # 10 distros? 02.05.07 # 10 02.05.13 # why would you need _10_ distros? 02.05.22 # Don't take it as a work, take it as an adventure :P 02.05.26 # hehe 02.05.28 # well said 02.05.29 # :P 02.05.49 # for work, I use redhat. You know, the $2499 per year per machine redhat. 02.06.02 # meh 02.08.13 # ok, I just deleted that slacdkware. yes, it was an adventure, no, I'm done with it 02.09.47 Join tgcondor [0] (i=taa@slammer.cs.Dal.Ca) 02.10.47 Join dj-fu [0] (n=deejay@202-89-151-146.ubs.qsi.net.nz) 02.10.57 # hello 02.11.47 # hi 02.11.48 # any ideas why rockbox would appear hanged on 'scanning disk' at boot time? 02.12.01 # this is on iPod mini 2G 02.12.25 # i tried looking for info on rockbox.org .. no luck 02.13.06 # Anybody with CVS write access around? 02.13.20 # I have my esperanto language file ready for cvs commit :) 02.15.30 Quit dj-fu ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 02.17.58 Quit Sinbios (Connection timed out) 02.18.31 Quit dpro (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.18.42 Join Sinbios [0] (n=Sinbios@Kingston-HSE-ppp3561125.sympatico.ca) 02.19.22 # salut sinbios 02.20.42 Quit Sinbios (Excess Flood) 02.21.06 Join Sinbios [0] (n=Sinbios@Kingston-HSE-ppp3561125.sympatico.ca) 02.21.07 # any dev around? 02.21.32 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-120-137.VIC.netspace.net.au) 02.21.47 # argh .. trying to reboot rockbox, it went off and now my ipod wouldn't turn back on :O( 02.22.12 # are you pressing MENU? 02.22.33 # Mikachu: and MENU too 02.23.12 # and no it's not on HOLD 02.23.15 # try holding menu+select for a few seconds 02.23.19 Part XavierGr 02.23.29 # Mikachu: Do you have cvs write access? 02.23.43 # no 02.23.45 # k 02.23.54 # I'm waiting for a dev to come out 02.23.56 # Mikachu: thanks, that rebooted it. now back to the 'scanning disk' mode 02.23.58 # i finished my esperanto translation 02.24.21 Join orthogonal [0] (n=chatzill@c-24-30-242-135.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 02.24.40 # anyone seen earHertz? 02.24.57 # last time he spoke, it was 16min ago 02.25.10 # where is he? Fucker owes me money 02.25.26 Join dj-fu [0] (n=deejay@202-89-151-146.ubs.qsi.net.nz) 02.26.15 # god, i hadn't watched MTV in years. it really sucks, doesn't it? 02.26.50 # the only good thing i ever saw come out of MTV was daria 02.27.19 # yeah, daria was good. I rtried to date this lawyer once who was way too daria-influenced, though 02.28.56 # humm .. problem fixed by opening iTunes, disabling auto-update and auto-launch iTunes, and rebooting the iPod. 02.29.31 # oh, is there any wat to tell itunes i don't want autorun on my cd-rom? it keeps turning it on 02.30.03 # earHertz: should be in the settings .. i just disabled it for iPod 02.30.20 # I looked, couldn't find it. 02.31.01 # earHertz: what OS? 02.31.04 # ...nobody with cvs write access around? 02.31.21 # Aghaster: why not just email the dev team? 02.31.41 # hum, its an idea 02.32.07 # Aghaster: got their email? 02.32.20 # i'll rejoin the dev mailing list 02.32.27 # k 02.32.38 # tgcondor: windows 02.40.22 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 02.40.55 # earHertz: it should be in the control panel somewhere 02.41.14 # thanks 02.41.34 # Aghaster: how do I get better looking fonts in linux? 02.41.37 # uh, anybody in #ipodlinux? the people there are mean 02.41.49 # Aghaster: how so? 02.41.50 # earHertz: in which graphical environment? 02.41.56 # Aghaster: kde 02.42.03 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp120-233.adsl.forthnet.gr) 02.42.10 Quit TeaSea ("Leaving") 02.42.14 # earHertz: I've been asking there if someone made an esperanto translation, and there's that guy that began to insult me 02.42.28 # Aghaster: don't take it personally. 02.42.42 # I know, but i still can't make sure its not translated to Esperanto 02.42.54 # Aghaster: I know you're into esperanto, but it's like waving a red flag a at bull. 02.43.26 # I mean, people just start thinking of when triuph the insult comic dofg visited teh start wars convention 02.44.31 # Does anybody here runs ipodlinux? 02.44.35 # Aghaster: oh, ok. 02.44.50 # Aghaster: I don;t run it, but I've been looking at some of their code 02.44.53 # or has a way to know if it has been translated to esperanto so i can make sure i'm the only one with an esperanto ipod? 02.46.02 # earHertz, where would the language files be located? 02.46.22 # Aghaster: I'm guessing wherever linux usually puts them 02.46.36 # lol, earHertz, you came in as that guy was kicked 02.46.41 # :P 02.46.46 # yah 02.46.51 # banned! 02.46.51 # lol 02.47.23 Quit orthogonal ("Chatzilla 0.9.72 [Firefox 1.5.0.3/2006052320]") 02.48.42 # ok, how do I restart X having chaged window manahgers? 02.49.27 # ctrl-alt-backspace 02.51.40 # hmm 02.51.43 # i received a mp3. 02.52.31 Quit Poka64 ("nite all") 02.52.32 # JdGordon: thabnks 02.55.04 # * midkay needs votes: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=4648.0 02.56.09 # haha. damn. 02.56.17 # already like 6 people swarming the thread. :) 02.56.24 # lol 02.56.25 # i don't like the v2 ones 02.56.34 # votepls ;) 02.56.41 # no account 02.56.43 # v3 or current.. 02.57.15 # voted 02.57.26 # thanks all :) 02.57.52 # can u add some sort of level generator? coz im sick of playing the same levels :p 02.58.07 # JdGordon, haha. 02.58.10 # probably. 02.58.11 # or loading levels from data files 02.58.55 # midkay sorry man but I still prefer the CVS ones 02.59.19 # XavierGr, np, i don't want votes for mine, i want votes for what people like. :) can i ask why/how mine could be improved? 03.00.04 # is there a known problem with rockbox and non-latin chars? 03.00.16 # especially in ID3 tags? 03.01.27 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.01.36 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp120-233.adsl.forthnet.gr) 03.02.48 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 03.02.51 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp125-125.adsl.forthnet.gr) 03.04.59 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 03.05.02 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp123-69.adsl.forthnet.gr) 03.05.35 # midkay I like the shiny effect on the CVS images 03.05.57 # hm.. 03.07.43 # shiny is good 03.08.06 # odd-left-to-right highlights look rather weird to me.. *shrugs* 03.08.25 # shiny i have absolutely nothing against, in fact i like shiny.. but the CVS bitmaps' approach to shiny is not quite my style. 03.09.04 Part ashridah ("Leaving") 03.10.24 Quit earHertz ("Chatzilla 0.9.72 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]") 03.10.25 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.10.30 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp123-69.adsl.forthnet.gr) 03.10.36 # bloody adsl 03.12.13 # haha, 03.12.18 # XavierGr, punishment for your vote :) 03.12.33 # :) 03.13.56 Quit wtf (Client Quit) 03.14.11 Join wtf [0] (i=thakuma@ip-140-176-14.phx.extremezone.com) 03.20.55 Join b00st4 [0] (n=glamsen@ppp-82-135-92-151.mnet-online.de) 03.21.01 # hey 03.21.09 # any ipod user here? 03.21.20 # yeah 03.21.21 # me 03.21.24 # * midkay 03.21.27 # 4th gen color ipod 03.21.27 # :) 03.21.41 # anybody with cvs write access around? 03.22.05 # me.. 03.22.09 # :D 03.22.20 # I finished my esperanto translation 03.22.23 # can you commit it for me? 03.22.31 Quit Aghaster (Remote closed the connection) 03.22.58 Join Aghaster [0] (n=Aghaster@modemcable010.69-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) 03.23.02 # welcome back :) 03.23.07 # meh, xchat crashed 03.23.09 Quit Aghaster (Remote closed the connection) 03.23.18 # i think it crashed again! 03.23.19 # hey 03.23.22 # haha. 03.23.24 Join Aghaster [0] (n=Aghaster@modemcable010.69-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) 03.23.30 # >:( 03.23.35 Join erich [0] (n=erich@debian/developer/erich) 03.23.36 # crashes everytime i want to send a file 03.23.38 # why, Aghaster? 03.23.42 # email maybe? 03.23.42 # do you have an email? 03.23.43 # why not just email/ 03.23.45 # im wonderin if theres any possibility to get itrip workin now 03.23.49 # this nick at gmail.. 03.23.53 # ok 03.24.01 # Aghaster, so it's tested+working fine? 03.24.04 # yes 03.24.09 # cool. :) 03.24.10 # 5g 03.24.10 # currently running on my ipod 03.24.19 # are you already credited? 03.24.20 # i did the update to make sure it was up to date toio 03.24.28 # credited? 03.24.31 # What effect does album art have for power usage? Does album art require additional spinups, or just decrease the buffer size? 03.24.36 # yes, contributors are put in the credits.. 03.24.41 # no, i'm not 03.24.45 # can you add me ? :P 03.24.54 # yes, i'm sorta required to :) need a full name 03.25.02 # Marc-André Moreau 03.25.06 # now one got any experiances wir itrip? 03.25.17 # cool, k.. 03.25.22 # (the letter at the end of my first name is an e with an accent...) 03.25.28 # i see it :) 03.25.30 # good 03.25.57 # do you need both .lang and .lng files? 03.26.16 # i guess so 03.26.23 # just .lang 03.26.57 # ok 03.27.11 # hey, no one can help me? 03.27.16 # sent 03.27.18 # :D 03.27.32 # You know what? This makes me the one with the first ipod in Esperanto in the world 03.27.33 # dont wanna degrade to apple firmaware again... 03.27.33 # lol 03.27.49 # b00st4: just ask, what's your problem? 03.28.05 # [03:40] im wonderin if theres any possibility to get itrip workin now 03.28.13 # ooh, and you even included a "FREE pop up blocking with the new MSN toolbar" offer! how generous, thx! :D 03.28.45 # a strange function to offer with a toolbar... 03.29.35 # lolll.... 03.29.39 # midkay 03.29.41 # sorry, i use hotmail 03.29.47 Quit Kohlrabi ("Hello my name is CoolClonk .") 03.29.51 # u know whats goin on wit itrip? 03.30.28 # b00st4, hm? no, nothing really.. 03.30.33 # Aghaster, just kidding :) 03.30.39 # hehe 03.30.55 # let's see if i can remember this now. :) 03.31.01 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=4611.0 O_O WOW. i gotta try this right awat 03.31.05 # away* 03.31.22 # damn 03.31.52 # im goin to holidays tomorrow, need itrip, is there noone who can help me??ß 03.31.58 Join lukaswayne9 [0] (n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 03.34.27 # Aghaster, k, it's in cvs (i hope, if i did that cvs add right) :) 03.35.03 # how long does it take before it appears on rockbox.org cvs activity? 03.35.23 # just maybe 10 minutes.. 03.35.30 # okay 03.35.47 # Aghaster: when the build is complete (http://www.rockbox.org/cvs.shtml) 03.35.56 # you can see it on the CVS builds page right away (the currently-building one) 03.36.16 # Mikachu, i've found that it only appears on the front page a few minutes after the build finishes.. 03.36.21 # could be wrong, though. 03.36.36 # * Aghaster frenetically presses refresh 03.36.45 # haha. 03.37.21 # think of their poor 2mbit connection 03.37.48 # lol 03.39.02 # :( that incredible wad file doesn't work on my ipod 03.39.19 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=4611.0 03.40.37 # hm. 03.40.56 # :'( it looked so awesome 03.42.10 # i'll try it.. 03.42.25 # i'm on a 4th gen color ipod 03.42.34 # * midkay has a 5G 03.42.39 # maybe it was designed for 5G? 03.44.13 # hum... while it loads, there is a warning 03.44.17 # it's running on a nano in the picture and the video.. 03.44.19 # it says it cannot file with the shareware 03.44.28 # hmmm...It works for my H340... 03.44.33 # maybe you need to run it with doom.wad instead of the shareware wad. 03.44.44 # hum. do you know where i can find it? 03.44.55 # I'm about to die in front of such a hot feature XD 03.45.15 # "hey guys look at my ipod that runs CS 1.6..." 03.45.22 # maybe it works with that freedoom wad 03.45.23 # haha. 03.45.42 # woot, my translation appears in the cvs :P 03.47.19 # yay. :) 03.47.58 Quit dj-fu (Remote closed the connection) 03.48.17 # hehe 03.48.31 # Now i'll take pictures of my ipod and write an article about it XD 03.48.40 # "unua ipodo en esperanto en la tuta mondo" 03.48.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.49.42 # :) 03.50.42 Join MirrorImage [0] (i=Owner@69-161-89-124.bflony.adelphia.net) 03.52.12 Quit anathema (Nick collision from services.) 03.52.18 Join Strath [0] (n=donat@dpc67143207026.direcpc.com) 03.52.18 # http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/liger.asp 03.52.21 # :X 03.53.06 # btw, CS works with freedoom 03.54.07 Join dsh-1 [0] (n=daishi@ool-45703854.dyn.optonline.net) 03.55.04 Nick dsh-1 is now known as Daishi (n=daishi@ool-45703854.dyn.optonline.net) 03.58.43 Join dj-fu [0] (n=deejay@202-89-151-146.ubs.qsi.net.nz) 04.05.28 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 04.09.38 Quit gursikh ("No.") 04.12.27 Quit Daishi ("Client exiting...") 04.19.26 Quit PaulJam (".") 04.19.51 # hey, doom already works on ipod 5g? 04.20.25 # Not on mine. 04.21.27 # hm 04.23.23 # It should work, I believe 04.24.21 # I get some error message. 04.24.29 # I could fix it, but I am too tired tonight 04.24.49 Quit mirak (Connection timed out) 04.25.38 # Ah, so your "It doesn't work on mine" was rather misleading. Is it "No base wads found" or something like that? 04.25.54 # Yeah. 04.26.06 # Yeah, you didn't read the instructions for it then, is all. 04.26.24 # Well. I'm still to tired to fix it :P 04.26.39 # any link paul? 04.26.48 Quit XavierGr ("Watch anime, saiyu sen jiko yo!") 04.26.51 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginDoom 04.26.56 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=4611.0 got that 04.26.58 # Every plugin has a PluginBlah page in the wiki 04.27.29 # .. well they should.. some dont have wiki docs 04.28.19 # There are official plugins lacking them? 04.28.58 # ye, a fair few 04.29.07 # the ones with the /!\ logo 04.30.43 # Didn't the dictionary used to have one? 04.31.05 # no idea 04.31.14 Join lancelott [0] (n=lancelot@71-212-28-137.tukw.qwest.net) 04.31.20 # I know there are instructions for setting it up somewhere 04.37.36 Quit b00st4 () 04.37.48 Join tyler71 [0] (n=18961443@labb.contactor.se) 04.38.35 Quit tyler71 (Client Quit) 04.41.18 # Paul_The_Nerd? 04.41.58 Quit lukaswayne9 ("Ex-Chat") 04.46.35 Quit Genre9mp3 () 04.53.13 # midkay: Yes? 04.53.33 # Paul_The_Nerd, you suggested in the bitmaps poll-thread that the vote be changed. i can't do that. can you? 04.53.58 # I changed it so that users can change their own vote. 04.54.05 # oh. thanks. 04.54.29 # i'm bored... 04.54.30 # * midkay sighs with semi-frustration over the whole situation 04.54.39 # Hehehe 04.54.42 # i'm writing a pike script with a gui to install rockbox on ipods... 04.55.05 # I just had to use IE. To download and install Microsoft Visual Studio 6. Because a class requires assignments be turned in as projects for that beast. 04.55.13 # because, god knows we don't have enough installers. :D 04.55.29 # haha. 04.55.37 # Well, we need one definitive installer. 04.55.45 # would a script be okay? :) 04.56.13 # er, pike. 04.57.23 # I dunno what pike is. 04.57.32 # midkay: I liked the lighter ones too. They looked much cleaner to me 04.57.49 # scripting-like language with c syntax; available on windows, linux, etc. 04.57.50 # Paul_The_Nerd, they were my faves, yeah.. sigh.. i just .. :\ 04.57.54 # slightly frustrating. 04.58.13 # sharpe: Being scripting, does it require people to have an interpreter, or does it create standalone thingies? 04.58.34 # nay, it requires an interpreter, i must confess. 04.58.38 # i don't wanna commit something that some or many people won't really like. unfortunately the lighter ones have the fewest votes on the second poll. 04.58.48 # i like the lighter ones... 04.58.56 # i could simply take the bitmaps from the second poll, give them an in-betweenish brightness, and commit those. 04.59.17 # what about an option to switch between the two? :D 04.59.25 # e.g. slightly lighter than [exactly in-between the light and dark versions] 04.59.25 # haha. 05.01.43 # so paul, would that be a negative on the pike script, as it wouldn't be standalone? 05.03.37 Join Rob2222_ [0] (n=Miranda@ACB5FEC2.ipt.aol.com) 05.04.48 # It wouldn't be likely to get picked 05.04.59 # indeed, i'm just bored. :) 05.05.18 Part Paul_The_Nerd 05.13.53 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 05.14.06 # And now due to poorly designed installers, I will not be able to do my homework. 05.14.27 # what about using gtk+ for the ui? 05.16.17 # * Paul_The_Nerd shrugs. 05.16.50 # It's not really my call anyway. I just know ideally you should be able to download the installer, run it without any prerequisites, and have Rockbox on your iPod 05.17.12 # yeh... 05.17.46 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05.18.02 # i had thought about c#, and that gnu has a c# compiler... 05.24.16 # but, 05.24.18 # gah. 05.31.35 Quit dj-fu ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 05.33.56 Join jbauman [0] (n=Johnq@66.216.165.223.dynamic.dejazzd.com) 05.36.56 Join NicP [0] (n=nic@c211-28-159-74.brasd1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 05.39.11 Join RotAtoR_ [0] (n=e@74.136.209.119) 05.40.58 Part erich ("Client exiting") 05.48.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.52.28 Quit rotator (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.54.43 Quit TCK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.55.53 Join scorche` [0] (n=18cdc209@labb.contactor.se) 05.56.27 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp123-69.adsl.forthnet.gr) 05.57.40 Join shrimants [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-70-141-182-48.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 06.00.04 # eh... 06.00.12 # sharpe! 06.00.19 # long time no see 06.00.20 # hey scorche 06.00.55 # would anyone care to help me? i cant get rockbox to play anything 06.01.30 # so, is that the only problem? 06.01.36 # yes, pretty much 06.01.46 # has rockbox ever played? 06.01.48 # i used an automatic windows installer 06.01.50 # no 06.02.01 # and then i put on the updated CVS build 06.02.05 # by not playing, do you mean no sound coming out, or not doing anything 06.02.11 # not doing anything 06.02.16 # well. 06.02.19 # i got ipod video 06.02.21 # do you get an error message? 06.02.23 # and windows 06.02.26 # no 06.02.28 # it doesnt detect anything 06.02.33 # correct me if im wrong 06.02.35 # so the bootloader just hangs? 06.02.56 # no, i installed Loader2, installed rockbox, started it up just fine 06.02.56 # shrimants: what do you see, what do you press, and what happens when you press it? 06.03.09 # wait, so rockbox starts fine? 06.03.19 # yes, it works perfectly 06.03.31 # other than the playing music/ finding it part 06.03.44 # after i get it running, i ran the tagcache update 06.03.53 # and it ran for about 4-5 minutes, and then stopped 06.04.10 # and after that, im either confused on what to do, or it just didnt do what it was supposed to 06.04.14 # reboot 06.04.15 # the manual wasnt all that clear 06.04.19 # ok 06.04.22 # will try that 06.04.29 # and then, you'll probably get a codec error 06.04.34 # im using mp3 06.04.35 # then you'll have to reboot it again 06.04.43 # ok 06.04.45 # it's a known issue 06.04.55 Part Paul_The_Nerd 06.05.02 # and do u recommend the normal bootloader or Loader2? 06.05.35 # i don't use ipodlinux, so i can't really give advice to the ipl bootloader. 06.05.52 Quit hardeep ("Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]") 06.06.12 # but you should be fine using loader2. 06.06.16 # ok 06.07.29 # ugh, i'm going to head to sleep. goodnight everyone. 06.09.35 Part shrimants 06.10.36 Quit MirrorImage (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.11.56 Join Myk3 [0] (n=chatzill@cpe-24-26-207-127.hot.res.rr.com) 06.12.02 # hello 06.12.17 # can someone explain what are the added features of useing rockbox? 06.12.45 # no, but you can check the "why choose rockbox" link on the front page.. 06.12.52 # or read the manual.. or check the wiki.. 06.14.01 # will i still be able to watch vids on a iaudio? 06.14.13 # if you dualboot 06.14.32 # theres a dualboot fw where you can boot rockbox w/ a short on and official with a long on 06.14.49 # o ok 06.17.14 # anyone do "Defcon" in las vegas? 06.18.08 # * scorche` raises his hand 06.18.32 # midkay: 99 > 100 06.18.48 # hm? 06.18.57 # i spent days on 99 06.19.02 # 100 i got first try 06.19.07 # oh. 06.19.10 # um. hm. 06.19.13 # no. 06.19.13 # :) 06.19.20 # yes. 06.19.22 # :) 06.20.39 Join NicP_ [0] (n=nic@58.107.45.146) 06.30.55 Quit NicP (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.40.28 Quit RotAtoR_ ("zzzzzzzzzz") 06.42.10 Join zaox [0] (i=Bila@modemcable039.118-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 06.46.01 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 06.49.46 Join saa[b_r]ider [0] (i=saa_b_r_@221.223.96.67) 06.49.50 Join surfed [0] (n=alex@www.qisland.net) 06.50.15 Join jrmuizel [0] (n=jrmuizel@adsl-71-142-80-253.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) 06.51.49 Part ravenhawke ("Kopete 0.11.3 : http://kopete.kde.org") 07.00.31 Quit hannesd (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.02.01 Join hannesd_ [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 07.02.08 Quit surfed ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12") 07.03.03 Quit Myk3 ("Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]") 07.07.58 Quit saab_rider (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.29.55 Join Ribs [0] (n=ribs@212.159.107.123) 07.44.45 Join Xinux [0] (n=Xinux@71-85-206-223.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) 07.46.12 Join RancidLM [0] (n=rancidlm@linuxfordummies/RancidLM) 07.46.15 Quit e-uoaphys (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.46.54 # hey all, if some ones around can i have some support with getting rockbox installed on my nano plz 07.48.13 # What problem are you having? 07.48.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.49.05 # installing it via linux and some general questions.. 07.50.00 # if i have my ipod mounted can i make a backup like cat /dev/sda > ~ipod.img so i don't brick my ipod? 07.50.28 # i wanna try rockbox but i really don't wanna turn the nano into a paperweight :S 07.50.38 # RancidLM: You won't brick your ipod... the apple firmware always remains and can't be removed 07.50.39 Quit jrmuizel ("This computer has gone to sleep") 07.51.02 # RancidLM: the worst case is that you'll delete everything, and the ipod will start again as if it was first use. 07.51.04 # RancidLM: The dd if=/dev/sda1 of=bootpartition.bin is all the backup you need if you don't mind copying over the music again 07.51.11 # even if the partitions get corrupt? or something? 07.51.47 # If you have 1/2/4gigs of space and feel like doing a full backup, of course the idea you suggested will work, but it's not really necessary. 07.51.58 # ok also i heard a little rumor.. on the rockbox forum about some one who fried his ipod on a post made today.. any one else read it? 07.52.21 # Are you referring to the person with the Ipod Mini 2G? 07.52.32 # Paul_The_Nerd: ya.. i don't mind the space..ill make a backup dvd for my ipod ..lol 07.52.47 # Paul_The_Nerd: ya i think he fried it charging it? 07.52.53 # The person with the Mini 2G had modified his Retail Firmware to go into deep sleep after 15 minutes 07.53.05 # oooh ok so thats not a rockbox option 07.53.36 # So, when it finished charging, it shut down. Detected inserted power. Tried to boot into Rockbox. Rockbox goes into Apple's Disk Mode when power is connected. Apple's Disk mode detects that it's not a USB connection, and shuts down. It boots up. Goes into Rockbox. So on. 07.54.42 # ok.. so since i only use a usb charger i shouldn't have this problem.. correct? 07.54.44 # The problem is only possible if you have the wall charger for the iPod. 07.55.01 # aight.. duely noted :) 07.55.49 # sooo ok im making a backup... when im done im gonna install it..if thiers any one around to help with the linux installation process :) 07.56.04 # And his only happened because he was using a modified Apple Firmware too, something Rockbox isn't really set up to deal with the possibility of. It's still in an early enough stage of development that it's still in the "Making things work right" stage. :) Though don't let that discourage you, I use it exclusively on my Nano. 07.56.22 # aye 07.56.29 # * Ribs only uses Rockbox on his 5G video 07.56.31 # * ritalin is high 07.57.01 # :D 07.57.03 # groovie how about putting tunes on it, i couldn't find on the site if u still use the itunes database or if you just copy the music over like a flash drive 07.57.14 # Ribs: any work being done on video support? 07.57.14 # im putting mine on a 2gb nano 07.57.19 Join jrmuizel [0] (n=jrmuizel@adsl-71-142-80-253.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) 07.57.28 # RancidLM: You can use iTunes if you really REALLY want. But you can also now just use it as a flash drive, like I do. 07.57.35 # ritalin: not that I'm aware of 07.57.46 # not that I care... video on ipod is a waste of time 07.58.13 # its kinda neat for the novelty sake 07.58.39 # either way, I won't be using it 07.59.24 Join moda|ASOT [0] (i=modafrom@CPE-138-130-209-183.qld.bigpond.net.au) 08.00.06 # im putting rockbox on my ipod shuffle!!!1 08.00.16 # rofl 08.00.18 # Paul_The_Nerd: ok cool how about.. Both? lol 08.00.27 # Xinux: lol 08.00.32 # =) 08.02.27 # RancidLM: Well, iTunes does that silly "renaming files to stuff like XFGN" thing, so you can't really browse them in filetree view 08.02.57 # But you can use TagCache to index all your music, independently of how you put it on there 08.03.42 # is tagcache still laggy as shit on ipods too? 08.04.19 # i got a interesting idea.. have a way to enable itunes DB and igore the itunes dir and use file explorer :D 08.04.33 # why does ipod rename it 08.04.41 # makes no sense 08.04.45 # coz apple are cookoo 08.04.53 # for lack of a better word 08.04.57 # so u can brows itunes play lists and copy tunes and go 08.05.17 # or so they scare away noobies from just using explorer to copy music in 08.05.31 # moda|ASOT: Laggy in what way? 08.05.57 # Paul_The_Nerd: on my h300 it would lag like shit browsing with tagcache, music would stop halfway thru, etc etc etc 08.06.11 # and i couldnt fast forward or rb would crash 08.06.19 # Hmm 08.06.30 # Were you using one of the Optimized or Experimental builds? 08.06.38 # experimental yea 08.06.44 # That would do it 08.06.58 # meh 08.07.03 # It'd be nice for you to actually verify your problems exist on an OFFICIAL build before complaining about them 08.07.15 # yea, Paul_The_Nerd, but thats long ago... 08.07.36 # if i decide to get an ipod 5g, i can decide whether to run rb or not.... hrm 08.07.40 # ok my backup is complete.. now to install rockbox some how :D 08.07.59 # moda|ASOT: See, the thing is, it was NEVER "laggy as shit" as you so described it, in the official builds 08.08.07 # fair enought Paul_The_Nerd 08.08.15 # moda|ASOT: you can enable dircache and load tagcache to ram if you don't want it to lag at all 08.08.19 # RancidLM: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationFromLinux 08.08.54 # i can't seem to compile the .c file is thier any dependancy's? 08.09.03 Join djpirate [0] (n=djpirate@ip72-192-230-83.dc.dc.cox.net) 08.09.25 # RancidLM: hmm, what did you try to compile? 08.09.33 # qut 08.09.38 # hmm 08.09.42 # RancidLM: For ipod_fw? There shouldn't be any I believe. 08.09.46 # qut 08.09.49 # ipod shuffle is such a waste 08.09.58 # you can get an mp3 player with a screen, and more storage for less money 08.10.22 # Xinux: Same is true of the Nano 08.10.31 # You can get one that plays video, with the same storage, for less money 08.10.37 # nano has a screen, and is flash storage. 08.10.43 # Yes 08.10.51 # of course 08.10.54 # i dont have the nano 08.10.55 # lmao 08.10.58 # And you can get a flash based player that plays video, has a nice color screen, and costs $20 less 08.11.06 # Same capacity 08.11.08 # is it ok to use gcc-3.4 ? 08.11.12 # 30gb ? 08.11.13 # flash ? 08.11.19 # Xinux: The nano isn't available in 30gb 08.11.21 # RancidLM: yeah 08.11.25 # lmao. 08.11.36 # Xinux: I said the same capacity as a Nano. 08.11.42 # oh 08.11.46 # i have ipod vid 08.12.22 # I don't got time to fuck around. 08.12.39 # Xinux: The video drives me nuts, because they don't offer a model without video at that capacity 08.12.45 # I kind of wish I got an ipod video 08.12.48 # meh. 08.12.49 # I have an iaudio x5 08.12.51 # bought it for flac/ogg 08.12.56 # Meh? 08.12.59 # meh. 08.13.00 # O.o 08.13.03 # It'd be nice to have the option to not pay for a feature I won't ever use. 08.13.10 # i use it. 08.13.10 # so 08.13.13 # =\ 08.13.24 # The video is pretty crappy on it, so it's just not worth the extra money 08.13.31 # crappy? 08.13.33 # wtf?! 08.13.33 # Yes 08.13.41 # must have been a crappy video 08.13.44 # i get very good quality 08.13.54 # Good compared to what? 08.14.00 # ummm 08.14.05 # it looks like it does on the tv......... 08.14.06 # is there anyway to get ogg for ipod 5g? 08.14.21 # Xinux: Your TV has compression artifacts? 08.14.23 # is dd if=/dev/sda of=mbr.bin the same as cat /dev/sda > backup.img ? 08.14.23 # You make me sick faggot, get lost 08.14.34 # ........... lmao 08.14.36 # no 08.14.46 # but im saying, for how small it is, its pretty good 08.14.53 # i dont care about perfect quality 08.15.13 # If I have to spend money on it, it should do what it does well. 08.15.35 # and it does........... 08.15.39 # well 08.15.41 # not perfect. 08.15.43 # If I want a portable video player, I'll buy something that was engineered for that purpose, rather than something it was tacked onto so they could pretend like they're innovating. 08.16.20 # RancidLM: Did you miss the "count=1" part? 08.16.49 # moda|ASOT: You mean, other than Rockboxing it? 08.17.11 # Paul_The_Nerd: oh right... rockbox supports ogg.... *slaps head* 08.17.40 # Paul_The_Nerd: no i just did it.. im just backing up every single thing..lol 08.18.10 # that's not funny 08.18.18 Part ritalin 08.18.18 # good riddance 08.18.51 # iiiiiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrcccccccccccccc 08.18.54 Quit Xinux ("Leaving") 08.19.23 # Ok so iv done all the backing up *gulp* i guess here gues nothing 08.20.11 # It's really quite safe. 08.20.12 # ok wait .. step 3 kinda confused 08.20.34 # What part of it? 08.21.15 # ... i got the bootloader-nano.bin 08.21.26 # its just installing the boot loader and the rest.. i think 08.23.42 # :~/Desktop$ ./ipod_fw -g nano -o rockboot.bin -i apple_os.bin bootloader-nano.bin 08.23.42 # Cannot open firmware image file apple_os.bin 08.23.50 # i just got that error :S 08.24.02 # i guess its because i don't got apple_os.bin 08.24.27 # Then you skipped a step 08.24.45 # Specifically: Extract the Apple firmware from the bootpartition.bin using the ipod_fw utility that you built above: ipod_fw -o apple_os.bin -e 0 bootpartition.bin 08.32.08 # ok.. so it did something and now im left with a ipod that won't turn on :( 08.32.48 # ok 08.32.49 # im in 08.32.54 # i just rebooted it 08.35.14 # ok 08.35.37 # sooo.. i installed it .. but it has nothing in play lists.. will it read my itunes? 08.36.09 # It won't read your iTunes playlists. 08.36.35 # It should right now just show you the contents of your disk (or at least "supported" files) 08.36.59 # If you have itunes synced music, you can access the songs more easily using this: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TagCache 08.37.00 # oh i thought i can read it :( 08.37.41 # I don't got time to fuck around. 08.38.01 # The playlists? 08.38.07 # ok i got it to make a playlist from the database 08.38.08 # :) 08.38.21 # now to find a way to install the fancy themes from the site :) 08.38.24 # onto the nano 08.38.27 # RancidLM say: fagmode on 08.39.21 # sigh.. 08.39.27 # :S 08.39.43 # what's wrong midgay? 08.39.56 # you can tell me 08.40.01 # nothing, it was a sigh of happiness. 08.40.25 # then shut up 08.40.31 # ... 08.40.37 # good one, only took you like half a minute.. 08.40.46 # [02:40] nothing, it was a sigh of happiness. 08.40.46 # [02:40] then shut up 08.40.48 # learn to count 08.41.02 # that's not funny 08.41.06 # djpirate: learn to h:m:s 08.41.09 # thou art headed for a very tragic end' 08.41.36 # good riddance. 08.42.06 Join Digital_Coma [0] (i=birdturd@ip72-192-230-83.dc.dc.cox.net) 08.42.09 # Awaken my biniling, and embrace the fgt that is your birthright. Know that I am djpirate; the eternal will of the LoL!!~, and that you have been created to serve me. 08.42.40 # did you just call yourself an fgt? 08.42.52 # fagmode on 08.43.13 # AND BOTHER ME NO MORE WITH YOUR PITIFUL WORTHLESS ATTEMPTS OF DUCK ON A GOOSE LIEING ON AND ABOUT YET LOOSE 08.43.32 # *lying 08.43.33 # AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR EYES 08.43.38 # this is pretty impressive. quite scary. 08.43.41 # Where's the rnd ign irr? 08.43.52 # i expect we're going to be hacked in several seconds. my heart is pounding. 08.43.53 # AND LISTEN TO ME ASWELL 08.44.13 # youre the one hacking retard 08.44.29 # * midkay nods slowly 08.44.33 # WELL GUESS WHAT LADDIE..YOU SHOULD BE 08.44.47 # CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL! 08.44.53 # stop sticking to me like a chewing gum 08.44.56 # haha. cruise control. 08.45.13 # SUFFERING AND PAIN SHALL YOU WITNESS FOR THE END OF DAYS IS YET TO COME 08.45.33 # LEAVE THE DAMN AMERICANS ALONE 08.45.33 # djpirate, nice simile.. i think "leech" would work better though. "a chewing gum" doesn't actually really make sense. 08.45.36 # NOW ITS MY TURN 08.45.36 Join lilo [0] (i=levin@freenode/staff/pdpc.levin) 08.45.39 # I detect a sndngr 08.45.53 # and stop spamming aswell 08.46.03 # fagmode off 08.46.07 # haha. 08.46.20 # this is all actually surprisingly amusing. 08.46.22 # :p 08.46.35 # how surprising 08.46.43 # it really is. 08.46.50 # I'll need some help sorting problems 08.46.58 Join jazzbone [0] (n=jazzbone@p509186E1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 08.47.00 # fuck, it's that one fag, what's his face 08.47.32 # lilo, hm? 08.47.36 # hmmm 08.47.44 # qut 08.47.47 # okay, that's helping 08.47.50 # Digital_Coma and djpirate are the same guy, or at least both spamming at the same time.. 08.47.50 # Another Victory for BS Inc. 08.47.52 # WELL GUESS WHAT LADDIE..YOU SHOULD BE 08.47.54 Part djpirate 08.48.14 # yep, same ip 08.48.34 Quit Digital_Coma (K-lined) 08.48.45 # fun fun 08.48.48 # * lilo nods 08.48.55 # thanks :) 08.49.00 # thnx Lilo :) 08.49.06 # * scorche` waves farewell to grub 08.49.11 # errrrrr....*lilo 08.49.20 # haha 08.49.30 # * Ribs ponders why people like that always 'grace' this channel 08.49.36 # this channel needs more ops really 08.49.53 # Ribs: it hasnt been the first time someone has suggested that 08.50.11 # fascinating 08.50.24 # Paul_The_Nerd simply needs to be added to the op list. :) 08.50.28 # it's like, once a week I see something stupid going on here 08.50.49 # I will note that my /away message generally includes a pager email address 08.51.05 # i have been on vacation too long... 08.51.09 # i should return 08.51.19 # and actually have spare time to do some developing 08.51.44 # yeah, lostlogic has that problem atm as well 08.51.59 # I even offered to swap homes with him or something, so the 'summer activities' didn't affect his work 08.52.07 # as the 'summer' here is pretty crap ;) 08.52.15 # strangely enough, my offer was declined. 08.52.15 # womenz 08.52.21 # all that is needed 08.52.32 # note the z 08.52.39 # haha 08.52.39 # it makes whatever i say "cool" 08.52.45 # yeah dudz 08.52.50 # hawt 08.52.56 # duuuude 08.53.19 # that is enough...lost enough brain cells for one night 08.53.19 Quit lostnihilist (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.59.10 Quit jrmuizel ("This computer has gone to sleep") 08.59.39 Quit zaox () 09.06.42 # how do i go back to my nano firmware? 09.06.54 # Do you mean "uninstall" or "Boot up in the retail firmware"? 09.07.12 # boot up plz 09.07.22 # Okay, shut down the player by holding Play/Pause 09.07.36 # Then press and hold Menu until it says "Loading Original Firmware..." 09.10.11 # more specifically, press menu, release it, and then press+hold it again very soon after releasing (before the apple logo shows up). 09.10.34 Quit hannesd_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.10.39 Join lostnihilist [0] (n=james@c-67-175-244-14.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 09.11.38 Join hannesd_ [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 09.14.55 # midkay: I've confirmed that you can actually just hold menu in most cases. 09.14.58 # At least, I can. 09.15.10 # Paul_The_Nerd, hm. i've tried it several times and it never worked. 09.15.27 # i've heard that scrollwheel input (finger movement) can affect it though. 09.15.45 # Yup 09.15.49 # ah, holding menu worked that time.. 09.15.55 # rockbox is nice but the fonts are messed on the latest build 09.16.09 # I have a skin that has a rim around the wheel, so I can press on it without risking any scroll events. 09.16.13 # RancidLM: How so? 09.16.27 # ah, maybe just holding it works as long as you're very careful not to move your finger a millimeter. :) 09.17.02 # good to know, thx. 09.17.42 # i just downloaded the nano clone.. and the text is all over the place due to fonts 09.18.00 # 'due to fonts'? can you be more specific? 09.18.14 # garbled? odd size?.. 09.18.29 # RancidLM: Are you referring to a theme? Does it perhaps require patches? 09.18.39 Join ender` [0] (i=useless@84.52.165.220) 09.19.23 # Also, did you install the fonts archive, as the normal rockbox.zip doesn't include all the fonts 09.20.34 # * midkay is headed to bed. nite all.. 09.20.43 # same 09.20.57 # where are the fonts located? 09.21.43 # In the fonts download at the daily build page 09.22.09 Quit scorche` ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 09.25.26 Quit Paul_The_Nerd (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.25.35 # ok that worked :) 09.27.04 Join Siku [0] (i=Siku@dsl-kpogw4-fe52df00-45.dhcp.inet.fi) 09.28.36 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 09.40.44 Quit bill (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.41.28 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-122-173.VIC.netspace.net.au) 09.44.54 Join bluebrother [0] (i=NudNjpDG@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 09.45.50 Join MrStaticVoid [0] (n=jlee@2001:4840:ffff:c028:205:4eff:fe43:5641) 09.47.45 Quit Ribs ("Leaving") 09.47.59 Part RancidLM ("Leaving") 09.48.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.53.15 Quit midkay (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.53.22 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@24.143.70.99) 10.02.56 Part XavierGr 10.13.23 Join dpro [0] (n=x@chello080109121047.8.15.vie.surfer.at) 10.19.10 Part ashridah ("Leaving") 10.19.19 # hey all 10.23.07 # Hola 10.36.29 Quit moda|ASOT (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.00.40 Quit JdGordon ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.11") 11.06.11 Quit zigford ("Leaving") 11.16.30 Join JdGordon [0] (i=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 11.18.16 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@p54A44E40.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.19.42 Join Gibbed [0] (i=rick@pool-71-108-2-183.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 11.19.42 Quit Rick (Nick collision from services.) 11.19.54 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-71-108-2-183.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 11.27.36 Join anathema [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust696.belf.cable.ntl.com) 11.28.12 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@rockbox/developer/tucoz) 11.28.43 # bluebrother, hi. Are you here? 11.30.21 # yup 11.31.12 # I'm mostly "finished" with the credits stuff but now i have a dependency to iconv :-/ 11.31.36 # cool. 11.32.17 # just read your comment to the image size task 11.32.23 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-65-71.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) 11.32.34 # why don't we use jpg for such kind of images? 11.32.34 Join TeaSea [0] (n=Thunderc@lonsdale.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 11.32.52 # ah. good. 11.33.04 # hmm. Will that look good enough? 11.33.39 # I tried converting the front page image to jpg. Gives about 500 kiB and I can only note a difference at 800% magnification ... 11.34.07 # so I guess this should work similarly for the -front images. 11.34.08 # the front page should be some kind of vector format imo 11.34.36 # would be better, sure. 11.34.52 # but what vector format is understood by latex? 11.35.16 # and we would need to have the logo in some vector file format ... 11.35.24 # Sure. I'll try and reduce the size of the h300 image to jpg then. But, it would be even cooler if we succeded in having the size reduction handled by pdflatex 11.35.42 # * bluebrother seconds that. 11.36.01 # IIRC I used convert -quality .75 on my try. 11.36.08 # I know. Which it isn't. Come to think of it. I am not sure pdflatex handles vector graphics at all. 11.36.58 # the only "nice" solution in terms of latex would be an xfig image and exporting to pstricks. 11.37.13 # or maybe exporting to pdf -- pdflatex can use this as image format. 11.38.53 # but, when using pdf we could use programs that can't export pstricks. 11.38.58 # * bluebrother thinks of inkscape 11.39.19 # * tucoz doesn't have the slightest clue what pstricks is 11.40.14 # hmm. The frontpage blew up in size when converting to jpg 11.40.19 # nasty latex code that draws the image with latex itself. 11.40.38 # oh. that. :D 11.40.40 # you need to specify the quality. Had this behaviour in the first place too. 11.41.02 # I did: convert -quality .75 rockbox3540.png rockbox3540.jpg 11.41.30 # my resulting jpg has 258229 bytes 11.41.32 # -rw-r--r-- 1 martin martin 837689 2006-06-05 11:39 rockbox3540.jpg 11.41.35 # -rw-r--r-- 1 martin martin 770727 2006-02-06 08:25 rockbox3540.png 11.42.20 # then I must have used a different quality setting then. 11.43.37 # I get the same size regardless of the quality setting 11.44.02 # aaah. 11.44.09 # convert uses percent values ;-) 11.44.13 # hehe 11.44.30 # -quality .75 gave me your (big) filesize, -quality 75 worked as expected. 11.44.37 # yes 11.45.23 # maybe we should just replace the huge png's with jpegs for now. And keep the png's in cvs, for future use 11.45.56 # that was my idea. Maybe we'll find a good vector-way in the nearby future. 11.46.12 # yes. Or success in the pdflatex scaling department 11.46.31 Join Poka64 [0] (i=peter@hd5e241c0.gavlegardarna.gavle.to) 11.47.07 # the h300 front is 113K now 11.47.15 # instead of 1004K 11.47.18 # afk 11.48.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.50.09 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@mrbg-d9b964e1.pool.mediaWays.net) 11.52.04 Join pondlife [0] (n=Miranda@cpc1-rdng11-0-0-cust472.winn.cable.ntl.com) 11.52.47 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@dsl-88-218-17-158.customers.vivodi.gr) 11.54.38 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-134-201.pools.arcor-ip.net) 11.56.00 Quit saa[b_r]ider () 11.59.05 # And it also looks like I removed rockblox from the manual, although it is being built for the archoses. Do we need two tetris-clones in rockbox? 12.00.05 Quit Sinbios ("If the definition of a klutz is someone who doesn't have eyes on their ass, then yes, I suppose I am a klutz.") 12.04.08 # I wouldn't say so. Is tetrox working on the archoses? 12.04.48 # I think I'll commit my credits stuff. A added dependency to iconv should be ok, shouldn't it? 12.06.00 # I guess 12.09.23 # tucoz, committed. I hope this doesn't break anything. 12.09.24 # there are some artifacts from the conversion, but I think the size reduction is worth it anyway. At least for now 12.10.31 # nice :) 12.10.52 # do you think I should commit the jpg h300-front? 12.11.11 # hope you like my credits style ;-) 12.11.54 # I took a deeper look to the ondio front image, looks like it was converted from jpg ... I'd vote yes. 12.12.02 # (for commiting) 12.12.04 # hehe 12.12.32 # I see. Well, then I do it. We can always change it later on 12.12.45 # I think most (95%+) users will read the manual on screen, so it won't hurt having a bit lower quality for printing for now. 12.13.13 # that was my thought. Make it usable now and better printable later ;-) 12.13.42 Join Sinbios [0] (n=Sinbios@Kingston-HSE-ppp3561125.sympatico.ca) 12.13.48 # at least a 1MiB manual is always nicer for new users than a 3MiB one. 12.13.50 # I agree 12.16.46 # Paul_The_Nerd: whats happening with your forum rearaging idea? 12.17.49 # JdGordon: Nothing until I get more feedback from people 12.18.22 # I want to make sure there aren't any major objections, and linuxstb was right when he said there needed to be someplace for hardware-specific questions, like installation help 12.18.34 # ok 12.18.55 Quit tucoz (Remote closed the connection) 12.18.57 # I'm going to wait until Wed, then post a link to my proposal in the general discussion forum, and see what the actual forum-goers think of it. 12.19.23 Join k0rnz [0] (n=k0rnz@c-24-20-234-70.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 12.19.27 # ok 12.19.31 # * JdGordon bbl 12.19.35 Quit JdGordon ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.11") 12.20.30 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@rockbox/developer/tucoz) 12.20.49 # bluebrother, I like the credits. Really good looking 12.21.43 # Paul_The_Nerd: Sorry I haven't had a chance to post my comments about the forums yet - I will do though. 12.22.17 # thanks. 12.22.48 # the manual is really starting to look good 12.23.30 # linuxstb: No hurry. I want to make sure this gets done right, so it's better to take a while discussing it beforehand, and to take as much time thinking about it as needed. 12.23.40 Quit tucoz (Remote closed the connection) 12.25.10 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@rockbox/developer/tucoz) 12.34.38 Quit Kohlrabi (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.35.39 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-134-201.pools.arcor-ip.net) 12.44.24 Join wooo [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust696.belf.cable.ntl.com) 12.46.17 Quit Seed ("cu, Andre") 12.49.40 Quit Kohlrabi (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.52.42 Quit k0rnz () 12.55.51 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-134-201.pools.arcor-ip.net) 12.56.02 Join lee-qid__ [0] (n=liqid@p5496744D.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.57.48 Quit Sinbios ("If the definition of a klutz is someone who doesn't have eyes on their ass, then yes, I suppose I am a klutz.") 12.59.57 Join amiconn [0] (i=jens@pD9F4C6DD.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.01.33 Quit anathema (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13.04.16 Join Hansmaulwurf [0] (n=maerlyn@p5081AED3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.05.33 Quit wooo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.10.42 Quit Hansmaulwurf ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 13.14.50 Join Hansmaulwurf [0] (n=maerlyn@p5081AED3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.17.22 Quit Rondom (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13.30.06 # bluebrother, do you think it's ok if I split the ondios to two manuals? 13.31.18 # nevermind. I do it anyway :) 13.32.46 Join b00st4 [0] (n=glamsen@ppp-82-135-92-151.mnet-online.de) 13.33.03 # hey 13.33.10 Join JdGordon [0] (i=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 13.33.16 # hi 13.33.25 # any1 got a ipod 5g? 13.33.25 Quit JdGordon (Client Quit) 13.33.42 # got a problem runnin rockbox... 13.35.22 # is it fixet yet, to supply power to the itrip when runnin rockbox? 13.35.44 # I don't know. Wouldn't think so 13.36.35 # i read something, that it was build in one of the latest cvs 13.36.57 # linuxstb seemed to have fixed this bug... 13.37.11 # Oh. I see. 13.38.10 # but i dont get it to work.. 13.38.32 # works fine wit the orig firmware, but dont wanna change it back... 13.39.13 # I can understand that :) When was that change committed? 13.39.57 # The change simply provides power to accessories. 13.40.03 # It won't necessarily make all accessories work 13.41.12 # yeah, but it was said, that it would work wit the itrip... 13.41.43 # Where was that said? 13.41.45 # http://pijulius.blogspot.com/2006/05/rockbox-itrip-and-ipod.html 13.41.59 # googled for ti... 13.42.00 # it 13.42.08 # So... I note that's not a link to anywhere on Rockbox.org. 13.42.25 # Do you have the exact same iTrip as the one he has? 13.43.29 # jap, i do 13.43.55 # but im not sure about this melt thing, i would loose my guarantee 13.45.24 Nick hannesd_ is now known as hannesd (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 13.46.21 # I don't understand what you were expecting then. 13.46.32 # It seems to say extra steps need to be taken so far. 13.47.04 # yeah, just wanned to know if there is any other way now 13.48.07 # Well, if it doesn't work for you, then I imagine there's not yet. 13.48.34 # and if not, maybe there is a solution now, to run the orig firmware parallelly, it was possible somehow with foobod/foobar, but not for the 5g i think 13.48.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.49.18 # you now, im no developer, and well it could be, that there is any patch out...thats why i was askin 13.50.22 # If you're looking for a patch, they're all in the patch tracker 13.50.41 # iknow... 13.50.49 # clear 13.50.50 # ls 13.50.53 # sorry 13.51.03 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3127.gwdg.de) 13.51.05 # Plus you said you read something that said it was in CVS 13.51.09 # I'm curious what that was. 13.51.49 Join JdGordon [0] (i=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 13.52.14 Quit jazzbone ("Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]") 13.52.23 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-106-064.pools.arcor-ip.net) 13.54.01 # On an unrelated note, I'd like to vent to a mostly empty room. My assignment tells me my class needs a destructor. My class itself has nothing dynamically allocated. What should I have the destructor do? Just say "Hi, I ran?" 13.54.13 # follow the link, it is said, that power supply for accessories is in the cvs tree now 13.54.54 Quit JdGordon (Remote closed the connection) 13.55.32 # b00st4: And it also says that _despite_ that, you still need to do the other step. I thought you meant that somewhere you'd read the rest of the problem was fixed. 13.56.15 Join JdGordon [0] (i=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 13.56.23 # nah, that prob remained, but as this blogpost is bout a month old, i thought maybe so would have fixed that yet 13.56.41 # but it seems, that this is very hard to do... 13.56.54 # It's also a very minor thing compared to everything else 13.57.09 # And Rockbox is also in feature freeze, so it couldn't have gone into CVS even if someone did do it. 13.57.47 # what? i dont think so, itrip is a pretty useful thing, im sure many pps would apreciate it... 13.58.15 # just get a proper fm transmitter that isnt apple branded and your good to go 13.58.53 Quit Paprica (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.59.45 Quit JdGordon (Remote closed the connection) 14.00.35 Join JdGordon [0] (i=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 14.01.52 # Paul_The_Nerd, c++? just implement the destructor as a stub. 14.01.57 # for completeness 14.03.58 # just get a proper fm transmitter that isnt apple branded and your good to go 14.04.02 # that works than? 14.04.29 # actually itrip isnt made by apple 14.04.35 # its griffin 14.05.23 # You should be able to use any generic fm transmitter, that just connects to the headphone jack 14.05.53 # Drawback: a generic transmitter isn't powered from the ipod, so it has its own battery 14.06.17 # ah, ok 14.06.34 # so the only problem is to get power to the itrip u think? 14.06.40 # tucoz: Well, the assignment tells me it must have a destructor. I've put in an output in it, just so that it says "Hey, I got called" so the teacher is happy. 14.06.57 # :) 14.07.02 # cuz its possible to connect a usb power directly to the itrip 14.07.03 # Perhaps 14.07.15 # I can't be sure as I don't have such a thing, and don't plan to get one either 14.07.23 # :D 14.07.33 # b00st4: When I said it was minor, I meant it. There are many MANY things left to be done that will affect 100% of users. The iTrip probably affects 1/4 at best. 14.07.40 Join JBGood [0] (n=Johnq@66.216.165.223.dynamic.dejazzd.com) 14.08.22 # Accessory support for ipod will probably come sooner or later, it depends on someone having accessorie(s), enough time and desire to figure out how it works 14.08.49 # It'll happen eventually 14.09.00 # Though the fact that iPodLinux has yet to work it out isn't terribly promising for a rapid timeline 14.09.16 # usbotg is more important :D 14.09.16 # ah, ok, but 1/4 isnt too less, but i understand, its not too easy to fix that and therefore i gotta seek for alternates 14.09.44 # JdGordon: I'll settle for simply "USB" 14.13.54 Quit hannesd ("Client suicide") 14.14.37 Quit JdGordon (Remote closed the connection) 14.16.19 Join webguest11 [0] (n=86c0f8be@labb.contactor.se) 14.16.34 # hey friends, are there any screenshots of rockbox out there anywhere? 14.16.50 # webguest11, what player do you have? 14.17.09 # nano 14.17.12 # 2gig 14.17.24 # You can check screenshots in the manual. http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodnano-20060605.pdf 14.17.45 # ty much 14.17.53 # It's not terribly pretty 14.18.04 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 14.18.35 # yeah firgured as much 14.18.46 # Though you can make the while playing screen look _very_ nice 14.18.56 # the plugins are pretty (some of them) 14.20.01 # webguest11, the nano wps gallery. http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpodNano 14.20.01 Quit webguest11 (Client Quit) 14.20.09 # hey people... 14.20.15 # Does this happen to anyone else? (H340) After disconnecting the player from USB mode (NOT Bootloader USB mode), when try to play a song, I get the WPS screen but playback never starts.... after rebooting everything OK until I connect the player again to the PC, then again, playback never starts 14.21.19 # try to reloud your .cfg 14.21.37 # helped on m H120 14.22.07 # Hamsmaulwurf:This is for me? 14.22.25 # yes 14.22.30 # ok 14.22.51 # i had this bug one time after i installed a new build 14.23.01 Part Paul_The_Nerd 14.23.27 # couldnt start playback and the button mapping wasnt right 14.23.58 # Hamsmaulwurf:Reloading the cfg does not help... 14.24.07 Quit hannesd ("Client suicide") 14.24.36 # Only restarting Rockbox helps... 14.24.50 # I think this is a bug... 14.24.57 # Can anyone here reproduce it? 14.25.27 Join JdGordon [0] (i=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 14.26.33 Quit JdGordon (Client Quit) 14.27.03 # latest CVS build on H300 14.27.45 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 14.31.20 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-75-147.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 14.31.52 Quit jbauman (Connection timed out) 14.47.19 Join JdGordon [0] (i=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 14.55.39 Quit JdGordon (Remote closed the connection) 14.57.04 Quit _Veseliq_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 15.00.03 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 15.04.15 Join ^BeN^ [0] (i=Paprica@CBL62-0-149-47.bb.netvision.net.il) 15.04.36 Nick ^BeN^ is now known as Paprica (i=Paprica@CBL62-0-149-47.bb.netvision.net.il) 15.05.26 Quit JdGordon (Remote closed the connection) 15.08.16 Join JdGordon [0] (i=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 15.09.47 Quit mirak (Remote closed the connection) 15.12.47 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48.adsl.vby.tiscali.dk) 15.16.52 Join hacim [0] (n=micah@debian/developer/micah) 15.18.13 # hey rockboxers, I'm wanting to get some supported hardware to run rockbox and am wondering what to get, i've never been excited about ipods, but what do people recommend? 15.18.29 # depends on what you want, really.. 15.18.31 Nick midkay_ is now known as midkay (n=midkay@24.143.70.99) 15.18.48 # that's great reasoning 15.19.25 # midkay: I guess I am so clueless I dont even know what options I have for wanting 15.19.55 # hacim, the iriver H100, H300 series are rather popular, as are the iPod 4Gs and 5G, and nano.. 15.20.05 # and the iAudio X5. 15.20.13 # midkay: i'm guessing amount of space, battery life and size are the biggest criteria? 15.20.23 # the archoses are supported, but rather old/clunky :) and tehy don't play the 9 or 10 supported codecs we've got now. 15.20.53 # I guess one criteria is I'm looking for something relatively cheap 15.20.56 # hacim, iPods are smallest I think.. battery life isn't too good on them yet.. maybe an H140, if you don't need a color screen. 15.21.04 # hacim: Other criteria: Do you want recording? radio? spdif input and/or output? 15.21.08 # i think battery life on those is quite good by now, and it's reasonably small. 15.21.09 # as in not much money (not quality :) 15.21.28 # amiconn: I do want a radio 15.21.39 # gahh... exam... in an hour and a half.. 15.21.48 # do the H140s have radios? 15.21.52 # amiconn: recording would be nice, I dont know what spdif is, so I guess not 15.21.52 # can't remember at all. 15.22.24 # midkay: H140 have radio of course... 15.22.33 # why "of course"? :) 15.22.38 # :) 15.22.39 # ...and finally, do you want much space and carry all your music (->harddisk player), or want a robust unit with less apce (->flash-based player) 15.22.53 # hacim, the H140 sounds perfect for you (or H120 if you want 20gb instead of 40).. 15.23.01 # s/apce/space/ 15.23.13 # probably cheapest of all the good supported players, recording, radio.. 15.24.12 # also the H120/H140 have the longest battery life with rockbox.... 15.24.22 # Genre9mp3, right.. 15.24.28 # amiconn: when you say "robust unit" - what do you mean by that? 15.24.30 # midkay: The archoses might not play 9 of 10 codecs of the newer units, but they're still good for 99.9% of my music :) 15.24.53 # amiconn, haha, mine too. :) but they're.. dunno.. old. :) clunky. :) 15.25.08 # The Ondio isn't clunky 15.25.16 # Old they are, that's true 15.25.28 # that's true, but he also wants "amount of space" -> storage, i think.. 15.25.40 # i dont particularly need tons of space, or ultra light, or anything, I'd like a good rockbox feature set, supported codecs and something that wont break :) 15.26.05 # how much space exactly could you use? 15.26.11 # 2GB? 4GB? or more like 20GB? 15.26.39 # I *could* use 60gb, but I dont _need_ that much space all the time 15.26.41 # or even less.. ondios... 128MB + an MMC card, i think. 15.26.50 # Harddisks don't like to be dropped 15.27.08 Quit JdGordon ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.11") 15.27.08 # they do enjoy being thrown 15.27.14 # haha. 15.27.20 # not the kind of hard drives i use... 15.27.41 # rockbox needs the hard drive active protection system :) 15.27.42 # midkay: Yes, and the MMC can have up to 4GB of capacity :) 15.27.53 # Hi guys. 15.27.59 # Could somebody with the relevant Flyspray permissions consider updating bug 5486 to be required in 3.0. It gives a recipe which will hard crash an H340 (or H340 sim) reliably, so I'd think of it as "critical". 15.28.02 # so it sounds like I should look at the ondio, or the H120/H140 15.28.05 # hacim: it'd only work if there were sensors to monitor position :) 15.28.55 # sharpe: details... it could be a manual operation, "press the down button before dropping your device" ;) 15.29.08 # eh, true 15.29.34 # since most people plan their mistakes...? ok, I'll shutup now 15.29.54 # hacim: Flash based players are lighter and smaller than HD based players, and they are less susceptible to dropping and practically immune to vibration/shaking (e.g. while jogging). But they offer less capacity. 4GB is the maximum for rockbox-supported flash players atm 15.30.10 # (which would either be the Ondio, with a 4GB card, or the iPod nano) 15.30.53 # Harddisk based players offer up to 60GB factory installed. The old archoses use 2.5" hard disks and can be upgraded to >120GB 15.32.07 # Another point would be the display, i.e. whether you want colour 15.32.08 # right.. /me has to go for a while, though.. bbl 15.33.51 # looks like the H120 goes for about $130-160 on ebay 15.34.13 # quite a nice deal if you don't mind the fact that it *might* break with a drop.. 15.34.27 # amiconn: i dont really need color, I guess I would if it was doing video, but for menus who cares? 15.34.40 # midkay: sure, but you can then just replace the drive, right? 15.36.05 # ondios look really inexpensive 15.36.17 # of course thats with the default 128megs 15.38.09 Join JdGordon [0] (i=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 15.40.07 # any core devs around? 15.41.46 # A few minutes... 15.42.08 # i wont bug u then 15.42.59 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 15.44.14 # pondlife: I've updated that bug to be due in 3.0 15.47.54 # linuxstb: Thanks 15.48.05 # pondlife: Can you try adding "if (current_frequency)" to the start of line 259 in mpa.c and see if that helps that crash? I can't see why current_frequency should be zero at that point though. 15.48.06 # I hope to have more time to look at it shortly 15.48.32 # Yes - I tried that and it didn't help, so not sure what's actually causing the exception. 15.48.44 # I'm a bit new to GDB though. 15.49.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.49.54 Join Mikaelh [0] (i=Mikachu@kr-lun-154-152-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com) 15.50.09 # That's weird then. Did you get the same gdb output when you did that? Also, did you definitely run "make install" after recompiling the sim (to install the updated codecs)? 15.50.29 # Ah I didn't do make install... that might be why! 15.50.44 # I'll give it another go when I get back from work 15.51.10 # :) OK. 15.51.25 # Thanks anyway! 15.52.01 Quit Mikachu (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.54.58 Part amiconn 15.55.03 Part compubomb 15.58.56 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-19-43.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 15.59.16 Quit wtf (Nick collision from services.) 16.00.01 Join thakuma [0] (i=thakuma@ip-140-176-14.phx.extremezone.com) 16.00.08 Quit Poka64 ("picard") 16.00.57 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp163-117.adsl.forthnet.gr) 16.03.23 Join klrspz [0] (n=klrSpz@69.15.248.2) 16.07.12 Join webguest80 [0] (n=562a44ff@labb.contactor.se) 16.07.16 # I remember a supported hardware matrix somewhere on the wiki, but I can't find that anymore, does it no longer exist? 16.08.04 # look for DeviceChart 16.08.49 Quit JdGordon ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.11") 16.09.17 # thanks 16.14.39 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.24.07 Quit webguest80 ("CGI:IRC") 16.26.51 Part Paul_The_Nerd 16.42.36 Join _Veseliq_ [0] (n=veseliq@195.85.215.210) 16.43.53 Join lodesi [0] (n=moi@d04m-89-83-126-142.d4.club-internet.fr) 16.46.13 Quit hannesd ("Client suicide") 16.47.10 # why can't i use %pb in if? 16.49.10 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 16.49.35 # I added the bug with playback not working after USB connect to the tracker 16.49.37 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5500 16.50.57 Join ts-x [0] (n=0cb706c2@labb.contactor.se) 16.51.38 # Genre9mp3: I've experienced the same issue, hard freeze requiring reset after usb on H340 16.52.16 # ts-x: no hard freeze. 16.52.24 # it will just refuse to output sound. 16.52.51 # Strange, for me it's almost always a hard freeze (I'm using the album art patch, not sure if that's making it worse) 16.53.20 # So does it happen every time you try and play music after using USB? 16.53.27 # ts-x: I don't think that the album-art patch has nothing to do with this.... 16.53.31 # linuxstb: yes 16.53.43 # You have to rebbot 16.53.48 # Any idea if it's a new bug, or if it's always been there? 16.54.23 # For me it's usually after modifying the wps via usb and reloading it. It's relatively new, as in within the past month or so I think. 16.54.30 # Well I had almost a month to update and I cannot say for sure... 16.55.01 # the strange thing is that this won't happen on H100 16.55.09 # Even if you don't transfer files (just connect) you also get this problem 16.58.00 Join freqmod [0] (n=freqmod@254.80-203-96.nextgentel.com) 17.10.19 Join hardeep [0] (n=hardeep@c-67-188-108-180.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 17.11.21 Quit b00st4 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.14.08 Join Aditya|Nap [0] (i=user@c-69-138-7-5.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 17.14.27 Part Aditya|Nap 17.15.04 Join JtDL [0] (n=Jesusthe@unaffiliated/jtdl) 17.19.26 Join Poka64 [0] (i=peter@hd5e241c0.gavlegardarna.gavle.to) 17.25.56 Part JtDL 17.28.15 # is someone with flyspray access here? 17.30.46 # yes 17.31.43 # XavierGr: i think FS#5373 can be closed. i can't reproduce it anymore. 17.31.43 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@85.64.200.85.dynamic.barak-online.net) 17.32.21 Quit lee-qid__ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 17.33.42 Quit buraianto ("Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]") 17.35.43 # ok done. 17.36.11 # probably it was fixed by the other commit for the viewer the other day. 17.38.14 Quit bluey- (Remote closed the connection) 17.41.42 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-106-064.pools.arcor-ip.net) 17.43.34 Join falconfox [0] (n=fox@h-68-164-3-132.chcgilgm.dynamic.covad.net) 17.45.01 # hi. i am brand new to rockbox. i tried to force an tag update and i get "data abort at 0003519C". i have rebooted and tried 3 times. each time that is what happens 17.45.05 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-84-111.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) 17.45.14 # i am using ipod color 17.45.28 # with latest rockbox build 17.46.12 Join jrmuizel [0] (n=jrmuizel@adsl-71-142-80-253.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) 17.49.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.49.50 Quit hannesd (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.52.44 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 17.54.07 Quit mirak ("Ex-Chat") 18.02.08 Quit lodesi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.02.28 Nick Mikaelh is now known as Mikachu (i=Mikachu@kr-lun-154-152-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com) 18.03.05 Join lodesi [0] (n=moi@d01v-213-44-192-178.d4.club-internet.fr) 18.08.59 Quit Seed ("cu, Andre") 18.11.55 Join Seed [0] (n=ben@85.64.200.85.dynamic.barak-online.net) 18.16.52 Quit hannesd (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.17.22 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@212.87.148.33) 18.19.39 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5501 18.19.44 # please take a look 18.23.07 # will do 18.24.18 # Paprica: what am i supposed to do with the .diff file? 18.25.28 Quit hardeep (Remote closed the connection) 18.25.48 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WorkingWithPatches 18.25.56 # Paprica: again, thanks 18.26.09 # :) 18.26.35 # i don't think that patch has anything to do with your problem 18.27.40 # problem? 18.27.42 # here is what i did, i updated my 4g color ipod to the latest apple firmware, which erased everything. then i followed the install instructions on the rockbox thing. everything worked. rockbox started and then i dragged all my music over to my ipod. 18.27.58 # then i chose "id3 database" then did a force check 18.28.17 # then i get "data abort at 0003519C" 18.28.47 # have you tried forcing the check before you switched to the id3 database view? 18.29.20 # no, i haven't. i will go back to "compatible" view and then force check 18.30.05 # just an idea, maybe it helps 18.30.48 # actually, last time i did the force check, it was in "supported" mode 18.31.07 # hmm. Then I have no idea. 18.31.46 # could it be an issue with the bootloader? 18.32.07 Join xmixahlx [0] (n=xmixahlx@64.122.111.98) 18.32.17 # I don't think so -- at least rockbox seems to be running. 18.32.23 # true 18.32.30 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-82-78.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.32.42 # are the settings saved in the .rockbox folder? 18.32.45 Quit jrmuizel ("This computer has gone to sleep") 18.33.37 # no, they are saved in a special block on disk. But you can export them as .cfg file 18.33.46 # i had yesterday's build on my ipod, then i deleted the .rockbox folder & the bios and put todays build on there. the settings from yesterday were still there 18.33.53 # oh ok 18.34.05 # could that special block be corrupt? 18.34.44 # it stores a version number, so this shouldn't be a problem. I think there is a key combo in the bootloader that clears all settings. 18.35.11 # at least iriver has one, so I assume theres also one for ipods, but unfortunately I don't own an ipod (yet) 18.35.55 # ok then 18.36.19 # i got the errer again, even when i did not choose id3 database 18.36.50 Quit hannesd (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 18.36.51 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-68-233.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.37.01 # sorry, but I think I can't help you further on this. Need to buy an ipod first ;-) 18.37.43 # can it be, that some of your files have embeddded album art in the tags? i have heard that tagcache can't handle these tags. 18.39.10 # Is anyone around who knows the voice/audio codec swapping code? 18.39.26 # you could try also manually removing the tagcache files before rebuilding. 18.39.34 # I've attached some notes to http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5486 18.42.05 Quit tucoz (Remote closed the connection) 18.43.06 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@rockbox/developer/tucoz) 18.43.38 # Should I commit rockblox to the manual, or just wait for it to get phased out? 18.45.54 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 18.46.59 # PaulJam: i don't think any of my tags have that 18.47.01 Quit mirak (Remote closed the connection) 18.47.10 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-82-78.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.47.25 # bluebrother: how do i remove the tagchace files? 18.48.47 # falconfox, just go to the .rockbox folder and delete them. If you want to delete them on target, choose "show all" in the file settings menu. 18.49.30 # falconfox, they are the file with the .tcd extension 18.51.28 # bluebrother: for some reason, wtih files set to show "all" i am unable to go into my .rockbox folder 18.51.34 # nevermind 18.51.38 # i got it 18.52.23 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.55.58 Quit bluebrother ("bbl") 18.56.14 Quit bluey- (Remote closed the connection) 18.58.31 # how do i find out if some of my files have album art? 19.06.36 Quit pondlife ("Miranda IM! 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20.17.24 # which player do you have? 20.20.02 # ipod? 20.20.32 # i tried setting ipod clone on and it just became white on white 20.20.36 # then you can reset the settings by booting rockbox with hold enabled 20.21.54 # PaulJam: perect worked Great :D 20.27.06 Join hardeep [0] (i=hardeeps@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG) 20.28.36 # is their a way to have rockbox and ipodlinux as well? 20.28.46 # and firmware os's 20.30.30 Join b00st4 [0] (n=glamsen@ppp-82-135-7-233.mnet-online.de) 20.36.18 Quit hardeep ("[BX] Get your free warez from ftp://127.0.0.1!") 20.37.30 Quit Ribs ("Leaving") 20.37.46 # grrar! exams are ovah... 20.38.52 Quit lodesi_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.39.14 Join lodesi [0] (n=moi@d02v-89-83-249-177.d4.club-internet.fr) 20.39.56 Join Ribs [0] (n=ribs@212.159.107.123) 20.40.10 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 20.41.15 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-41-124.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 20.48.01 Join Ribs2 [0] (n=ribs@riblet.plus.com) 20.48.02 Quit b00st4 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.48.32 Quit Ribs (Nick collision from services.) 20.48.44 Nick Ribs2 is now known as Ribs (n=ribs@riblet.plus.com) 20.52.20 Part RancidLM ("Leaving") 20.56.40 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.00.40 Join Rondom_ [0] (n=Rondom@mrbg-d9b94b2e.pool.mediaWays.net) 21.02.15 Quit Poka64 ("XChat 2.6.1 - www.xchat.org") 21.04.17 Join Xinux [0] (n=Xinux@71-85-206-223.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) 21.07.41 # hello 21.07.55 # hi. 21.09.12 # die. 21.10.12 # pie 21.11.15 # i noticed the release wiki page ... it said that the freeze was supposed to last 4 weeks, up to 01/05 ... you should maybe update that :) 21.11.57 # it's more of an extended release now 21.12.07 # er 21.12.08 # freeze. 21.12.27 # yeah, we always have the same thing when we want to release VLC 21.12.28 # besides, that was just four days ago. 21.12.30 Quit Rondom (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.12.39 # 01/05 was 1 month ago here :) 21.13.21 # heh... 21.14.20 # does anyone know if it's possible to change the IA's intelligence on chessbox ? 21.14.21 # depends on your dating format. 21.14.38 # i can safely say, no? 21.14.39 # 01/05 using us dating format was 5 months ago :) 21.14.41 # is there a way to put the hard drive of an H300 in standby when connected in USB driver ? 21.15.15 # mirak: you mean, turn it off while in usb mode? 21.15.39 # ie, stop it from spinning? 21.15.43 # sharpe: just the hard drive, like you would do with a normal hard drive 21.15.45 # yes 21.15.54 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 21.16.01 # why would you want to do that? :D 21.16.09 # eh, i don't think there is at the moment anyway. 21.16.44 # eh, it's possible, just not implemented. 21.16.58 # doesn't it spin down after no use ? 21.17.01 Join Poka64 [0] (i=peter@hd5e241c0.gavlegardarna.gavle.to) 21.17.06 # it should 21.17.07 # sharpe: no 21.17.11 # at least not on linux 21.17.16 # i cant get firefox support in like any channel 21.17.16 # >.< 21.17.26 # even on irc.mozilla,org, everybody = afk 21.17.30 # I tried to hdparm -Y /dev/sda but it doesn't turn it of 21.17.32 # off 21.17.37 # Xinux: they don't like you. 21.17.40 # nah 21.17.42 # they just not there 21.17.46 # i asked a pretty simple question 21.17.52 # no, they don't like you. it's okay. 21.17.59 # lmao, sharpe die 21.18.15 # see why they don't like you? :D 21.18.24 # you're about 21.18.27 # 180 people ? 21.18.28 # amazing ? 21.18.34 # mirak: The harddisk spin/standby behaviour in usb mode is handled by the operation system of the pc, plus the config eeprom of the usb-ata bridge 21.18.44 # Nothing to be influenced by rockbox 21.18.50 # i didnt go in there saying die, i just asked a simple question, settings my side mouse buttons to back and forward 21.18.59 # heheh... 21.19.02 # we warn them. 21.19.55 # yay! i got a thank you in the forums. 21.20.15 # My H340 hd does spin down in usb mode while idle, the H140 hd does not 21.20.32 # my H320 doesn't 21.20.42 # amiconn: you use linux ? 21.20.42 # amiconn: would we consider recording for the ipods an important feature? 21.20.57 # can you force standby mode with hdparm -y /dev/sda ? 21.20.57 # That's in windows - many people have reported usb harddisks not spinning down under linux 21.21.03 # ok 21.21.04 # (for whatever reason) 21.21.06 # :-/ 21.21.38 # sharpe: My ipod can't record. That's a thing to be implemented by other devs 21.21.43 # mirak: hdparm -S ?? 21.22.04 # yeh, but would it be a critical feature? 21.22.10 # i don't see why it would be... 21.22.15 # obo: in fact hdparm can't talk at all to the drive 21.22.16 # do the ipods have microphones ? 21.22.20 # -s 21.22.25 # dionoea: yes 21.22.26 # they can record via the headphone jack. 21.22.27 # sharpe: ipod recording is on my list of things to do, but I don't even have time for bugfixing atm 21.22.56 # linuxstb: alright, i was just answering a question on the forums, as i couldn't remember what was said about recording 21.23.07 # mirak: all ? i couldn't see a mic on my 5g 21.23.32 # dionoea: that's inside the headphone connector 21.23.37 # there is a third pin 21.23.59 # do you need a special apple mic ? or will any mic work ? 21.24.21 # sharpe: If they can record, rockbox should of course support it 21.24.25 # mirak: the other pins in the 5g just deal with video/audio. i believe it's implemented in the hardware to record from the headphone jack, instead of playing music. 21.24.33 # Does the 5g definitely have the ability to record via the headphone socket? As there's no remote connector on the top, Apple may have removed that feature. 21.24.42 # I think sdparm does what I want 21.24.55 # Afaik they can record via the headphone jack and via separate line-in on the dock connector (?) 21.25.10 # beyond my knowledge. 21.25.21 # * dionoea checks the ipod website 21.25.34 # amiconn: In general, yes. The 1g-4g are definitely like that. But I'm not sure about the 5g. 21.26.00 # The only mic accessory I've seen for the 5g plugged into the dock. 21.26.10 # The minis definitely cannot record as they have a dac-only wmcodec 21.26.12 # in soviet russia, microphone record you! 21.26.32 # :) 21.27.31 # * Xinux picks up Sharpe and starts writing die. 21.27.53 # ... 21.28.27 # looks like it can recored voice 21.28.30 # -d 21.28.44 # * amiconn has a properly working charging icon on all targets :) 21.28.45 # so there must be some way to plug a mic in 21.28.48 Join spenno [0] (n=d56be013@labb.contactor.se) 21.28.57 # The code needs some more cleanup though 21.29.01 # i did suggest a speex codec once... :D 21.29.09 Quit spenno (Client Quit) 21.30.23 # we should have, rockbox awards, eg, Most Dedicated, Most Helpful, Least Helpful, et cetera... 21.31.01 Join lowlight [0] (n=c730180a@labb.contactor.se) 21.31.23 Join spenny [0] (n=spence91@cpc2-colc4-0-0-cust144.colc.cable.ntl.com) 21.31.54 # crap sdparm -C stop doesn't stop anything 21.32.03 # Can anyone help me...I'm having troubles with the WIN32 sim... 21.32.22 # I keep getting "failed to open for write: archos/_temp_codec.dll" whenever it switches codecs 21.33.06 # can anyone help me fix my spazzed ipod? 21.34.43 # hum ... i can't find a record screen in the original apple firmware 21.36.12 # :( 21.36.39 Join hardeep [0] (i=hardeeps@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG) 21.36.57 # anyone know where i'm supposed to find that ? or does it need a mic plugged in to bring that screen up ? 21.39.11 # would anyone have a original ipod nano "bootpartition.bin" copy they could send me? 21.39.17 # 2G 21.39.31 # on the windows ipod install wiki page maybe 21.39.42 # (at the bottom) 21.40.17 # speeny: I might let me check ... 21.41.16 # i've tried the copy posted on the page you suggest dionoea, and it doesnt work 21.41.26 # oh ... 21.41.34 # die die die die 21.41.35 # maybe on ipodlinux.org 21.42.08 # podzilla needs an official release for ipod video 21.42.58 Quit lodesi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.43.18 # dionoea: I think you only get a record screen in the Apple firmware when using an official mic accessory... 21.43.30 Join lodesi [0] (n=moi@d02v-89-83-249-177.d4.club-internet.fr) 21.43.44 # oh ... so i'd need an official mic which would cost about $1000 ... darn :/ 21.43.54 # No, probably about $20-$30 21.43.56 # linuxstb: and that will be the one attaching to the doc right ? 21.44.20 # dpro: On the 5g, yes. But I'm not even sure any 5g mics are available yet. 21.44.44 # they're not listed in the accessories list on the specs.html page 21.44.50 # hmmm 21.45.14 # There's a preview/review here: http://www.italk-pro.co.uk/ 21.48.40 Join sharpe_ [0] (i=sharpe@user-0c8hc3i.cable.mindspring.com) 21.48.43 Quit sharpe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.48.46 Join b00st4 [0] (n=glamsen@ppp-82-135-77-209.mnet-online.de) 21.49.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.49.52 # linuxstb: do you have a patch to underclock an h120? 21.49.56 # I've underclocked before, but when I tried today, it slowed the playback speed as well (like I had slowed the pitch). 21.51.07 # hum, italk 5g or italk pro doesn't exist on the apple web site ... we'll have to wait :) 21.54.16 # oh, it's not made by apple ... hehe :D 21.55.20 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 21.59.15 Nick sharpe_ is now known as sharpe (i=sharpe@user-0c8hc3i.cable.mindspring.com) 22.02.15 Quit Seed (Nick collision from 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Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )' 22.05.15 Join Aditya|Nap [0] (i=user@c-69-138-7-5.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 22.05.30 Part Aditya|Nap 22.05.59 Nick BHSPitMonkey_ is now known as BHSPitMonkey (n=Steve-O@adsl-66-141-169-130.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 22.06.05 Quit lostlogic (Remote closed the connection) 22.06.30 # lowlight: No, I don't have a patch for CPU speed. amiconn told me what to do - it will be in the IRC logs if you can find it... 22.06.41 Join lostlogic [0] (n=lostlogi@temporal.lostlogicx.com) 22.06.43 # bah, netsplit 22.06.52 Quit lodesi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.07.25 # linuxstb: yep, i saw that one too. But looks like it also isn't available yet 22.07.26 Join lodesi [0] (n=moi@d02v-89-83-249-177.d4.club-internet.fr) 22.08.19 Quit falconfox () 22.08.27 # dionoea: Yes, and they're all for the dock connector as well. Which is why I'm doubting the 5g can record via the headphone socket. 22.08.39 # linuxstb: that's were I got my info, but it doesn't work now. Seems as though playback frequency now depends on cpu speed? 22.09.29 # Maybe... I don't really know much about the Coldfire. 22.13.29 # lowlight: No it doesn't. However, you need to obey some details when changing PLLCONFIG 22.13.41 Quit Rondom_ (No route to host) 22.13.59 # (1) Do not change the bits that define the audio clock and the two MCLKs 22.14.34 # (2) The clock frequency cannot be chosen freely, but it must be an integer multiple of the base frequency of 11289600Hz 22.15.56 # ..and the *_MULT macro must be defined properly. This is because of the way the timers are handled to ensure proper operation across clock frequency changes 22.16.13 # amiconn: I followed your instructions here: http://www.rockbox.org/irc/rockbox-20051104.txt (around 13:35). It worked in the past, but not now. 22.16.18 # The values I gave linuxstb back then should still be valid 22.17.01 Quit lowlight ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.17.59 Join lowlight [0] (n=c730180a@labb.contactor.se) 22.18.24 # I did notice that the current PLLCR value for CPUFREQ_NORMAL has changed since then. 22.19.03 Quit tucoz (Remote closed the connection) 22.19.09 # Oh? Hmm, lemme check 22.21.11 # system.c revision 1.99: http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/firmware/system.c?r1=1.98&r2=1.99 22.21.12 Quit JBGood (Connection timed out) 22.22.51 # Yeah, found that, checking datasheet 22.25.03 # Aha, chenged AUDIOSEL from 0 to 1. Try PLLCR = 0x13c46005; for 34MHz, and PLLCR = 0x15c4e005; 22.25.08 # ..for 23MHz 22.25.35 # hi 22.25.45 # how can i remove file from cvs? 22.26.17 # Thanks, I will try. 22.26.17 # cvs rm ? 22.26.26 # ok :) 22.26.56 # it doesnt show here 22.26.57 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UsingCVS 22.26.57 # =\ 22.27.08 # you can add it then 22.27.50 # but i dont know how to use it 22.28.39 # Paprica: else you can just type "cvs help" 22.28.46 # and it'll show all the commands 22.29.10 # 10x :) 22.29.15 Quit hardeep ("[BX] The Power Rangers use BitchX. Shouldn't you?") 22.29.17 # Paprica: http://neelix.net/download/doc/OpenSourceDevWithCVS_2E/OpenSourceDevWithCVS_2E.pdf 22.29.41 # Nice book about cvs... 22.30.23 Quit Kohlrabi (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.30.24 # very long =\ 22.30.38 # It has a cvs reference chapter... 22.34.07 # mm 22.34.09 # cvs remove: file `brickmania_sel_start.112x64x1.bmp' still in working directory 22.34.16 # what should i need to do now? 22.34.24 # =\ 22.34.40 # Paprica: I think you have to remove the file 22.34.46 # You need to first remove the file physically, *then* issue 'cvs remove' 22.34.52 # from my folder? 22.34.55 # yep 22.35.00 # ok 22.35.49 # * amiconn considers this behaviour a little braindead, since it removes the possibility of using tab completion for the file name 22.36.21 # subversion fixes that :> 22.36.23 # amiconn: Just use a semi-colon. i.e. rm file.c ; cvs remove file.c 22.36.25 # hehe :) 22.36.26 Quit lodesi (Success) 22.36.28 # * preglow nudges Bagder 22.36.31 # cvs vs svn ... round 1 ! 22.36.34 # fight ! 22.36.47 # linuxstb: Ah, yes, didn't think of that 22.37.01 # * amiconn usually uses a file manager to delete files 22.37.09 # (notice that even ffmpeg finaly decided to move to subversion) 22.37.34 # Why *even* ? 22.37.52 # amiconn: zsh completes correctly anyway 22.38.10 # and only files that are actually in the repository, not other stuff you might have lying around 22.38.54 # amiconn: well the troll lasted like 1 or 2 years on the mailing list ... 22.42.28 # Mikachu: why the entire world hasn't switched to zsh is beyond me 22.42.37 Join pixelma [0] (n=pixelma@212.204.41.115) 22.42.45 # yeah it is strange 22.43.04 # when people ask me how it is better than bash i tell them i don't know; i have never used bash :) 22.43.16 # i've used bash for ages 22.43.20 # but zsh plain beats it 22.44.16 # back when i installed loonix for the first time i chose zsh over bash because i thought the name was cooler 22.44.30 # * dionoea uses zsh 22.44.47 Join lodesi [0] (n=moi@d02v-89-83-249-177.d4.club-internet.fr) 22.51.41 # amiconn: thanks, that worked....also, any ideas why the sim (cygwin) doesn't like to change codecs. 22.51.44 # I keep getting "failed to open for write: archos/_temp_codec.dll" 22.52.10 # I don't know. Last time I tried it, it worked 22.54.04 # ah, "Sharpe" is a surname. who knew? :) 22.56.00 Quit freqmod (Remote closed the connection) 22.57.00 Quit ts-x ("CGI:IRC") 22.58.17 # and there is also a replacement shell for windows, "SharpE" 22.59.51 Join evilnick [0] (i=evilnick@bb-87-82-22-36.ukonline.co.uk) 23.00.14 Quit petur ("here today, gone tomorrow") 23.02.12 Quit sharpe () 23.04.43 Part lowlight 23.10.48 Nick _Veseliq_ is now known as _Veseliq_Out (n=veseliq@195.85.215.210) 23.36.39 Join philroche [0] (n=phil@static-195-248-119-69.adsl.hotchilli.net) 23.37.02 Part spenny 23.37.47 # hi guys, I've just loaded the latest rockbox onto my iriver H100, it was working fine until I opened the text_viewer. It's now completely frozen. I can't turn it on or off at all. 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All is well :) 23.45.40 Quit philroche () 23.47.21 Quit Hansmaulwurf ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 23.49.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.50.59 Join rconan [0] (n=richard@82.12.31.88) 23.51.00 Join rconan_ [0] (n=richard@82.12.31.88) 23.51.10 Quit rconan (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.51.36 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-134-201.pools.arcor-ip.net) 23.54.22 Join sharpe [0] (i=sharpe@user-0c8hc3i.cable.mindspring.com) 23.54.26 # i am back! 23.55.10 # wb, then 23.55.10 Quit Kohlrabi (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.55.21 # how's the translation commit going? :) 23.55.31 # woo 23.55.32 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 23.55.34 # look up cvs dated for yesterday :P 23.55.37 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-129-023.pools.arcor-ip.net) 23.55.38 # from* 23.55.56 # ah 23.55.58 # yay 23.56.11 # I am the one with the first ipod in Esperanto in the world now. 23.56.28 # how useless, but how fun 23.56.29 # lo, 23.56.37 # heh 23.56.39 Join rotator [0] (n=e@rockbox/developer/rotator) 23.56.46 # i'd use it if i spoke esperanto. but i don't. 23.56.55 # Time to start learning it lol 23.57.02 # XD 23.57.08 # markun is happy its finished 23.57.09 # heh 23.57.26 # i don't know if there are other esperantists other than me and markun 23.57.29 # that use rockbox 23.57.46 # maybe i should mail the user maillist? 23.57.51 # * BHSPitMonkey wonders what esperanto is 23.58.12 # a language! 23.58.29 # Esperanto is an artificial language created in 1887 by Ludovic Zamenhof, in Warsaw. Today, its the most spoken conlang in the world 23.58.45 # oook 23.58.46 # There are esperanto groups in almost every country in the world