--- Log for 07.06.106 Server: clarke.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot- Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 2 months and 13 days ago 00.00.04 # i just added a 14x(6*14) bitmap 00.00.09 # .bss section from hell... 00.00.13 # yeah, and i'm blind, it seems 00.00.14 # bluebrother: This isn't really the Rockbox Development Channel... 00.00.19 # * amiconn would like to see the .map 00.00.26 # "Rockbox 3.0 expected before 2008!" 00.00.27 # "Rockbox channel -- like the weather in europe, still waiting for summer to release" ;-) 00.00.34 # isn't it? 00.00.35 # lol 00.00.36 # murks 00.00.36 # i just didn't consider the possibility of ram actually being filled... 00.00.40 # it's summer here 00.00.42 # 38КC 00.00.42 # :p 00.00.48 # preglow: If he made the images too large, could that do it? 00.00.48 # lol bluebrother 00.00.52 # it's about 100F outside... 00.00.57 # (in Texas) 00.01.00 # Paul_The_Nerd: i guess so, but hell, those'd need to be bloody huge 00.01.02 # amiconn: rockbox.map ? 00.01.05 # Bah, imaginable units, please 00.01.23 # * amiconn gets calculator 00.01.30 # uhhh, fahrenheits 00.01.36 # 100f is close to 35c, no? 00.01.37 # amiconn: 35.5 where I am. 00.01.39 # ~10ТА here (according to the internet) 00.01.51 # hehe, sokoban.map 00.02.12 # preglow: units; You have: tempF(100); you want: tempC; 37.7778 00.02.20 # That reminds me of a time when I sat on an airport shuttle behind two women who were talking about the weather. One was American, and was talking about degrees F. The other was from Iceland, and was talking about degrees C. 00.02.36 # But neither realized the other was using a different measurement unit. 00.02.37 # There are too many "degrees" in general. 00.02.42 # Mikachu: where'd i find those functions? 00.02.43 # haha 00.02.49 # preglow: units is the best program ever 00.02.53 # roit 00.02.58 # hah 00.03.00 # i've got it too 00.03.30 # you can do awesome stuff like this 00.03.30 # amiconn: does that help http://pastebin.com/763572 ? 00.03.32 # You have: 2GiB / 128 kbps 00.03.32 # You want: minutes 00.03.32 # * 2236.9621 00.03.33 # Febs: both swilling whiskey by the bottle, then? 00.04.49 # when speaking of GiB ... I think we should use the IEC prefixes when calculating file sizes based on powers of 2 00.05.04 # It was a riot. "Oh, it averages about zero in the winter." "Wow, that's really cold! It only gets down to zero here about once a year." "Oh, I didn't realize it's so mild in this part of America." 00.05.07 # Wow... more than 504KB of bss ... 00.05.19 # hardcore 00.05.19 # * amiconn wonders what's going on in sokoban 00.05.31 # AH, hmm, I think I know what it it 00.05.43 # 24 bit bitmap ? :) 00.05.50 Quit mirak (Remote closed the connection) 00.05.51 # * amiconn remembers that someone changed the level loader to load everything it can 00.06.05 # ..which means using all avaliable plugin ram. 00.06.15 # oh 00.06.20 # But the current size is just overkill on swcodec devices 00.06.26 Quit klrspz () 00.06.35 # Just decrease the array size a little, and you should be fine 00.06.35 # #define MAX_BUFFERED_BOARDS (PLUGIN_BUFFER_SIZE - 0x2000)/SOKOBAN_LEVEL_SIZE 00.06.39 # and should be lowered drastically 00.06.40 # this one ? 00.06.49 # dionoea: 00.06.50 # like - 0x3000 ? 00.07.01 # lots mor 00.07.02 # e 00.07.10 # preglow: Not drastically. Just enough to make it fit 00.07.30 # Otherwise archos would end up with a tiny buffer 00.07.39 # ..or we would need a separate formula 00.07.51 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 00.08.37 # well 0x3000 works ... should i try to find the lowest possible value ? 00.08.38 Quit petur ("here today, gone tomorrow") 00.10.06 # Don't bother doing a too fine-grained search. 0x2800 should work as well, that's 2KB less than 0x3000 00.10.26 # ok, i'll keep it at 3000 then 00.13.38 Quit midkay_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.13.57 # time to go sleep. Good night 00.15.27 Quit |reezeh| ("He came. He saw. He fucked off. + ... *** kick your tards... just where it hurts ***") 00.16.40 Join lookingforhelp [0] (n=4035ea12@labb.contactor.se) 00.16.53 # I still dont have a debain folder... 00.17.02 # Debian 00.17.12 # Two slashes 00.17.15 # \\Debian 00.17.20 # I know 00.17.25 # My computer cant find one 00.17.29 # Well, you've typed it "debain" twice in here 00.18.05 # I need a username and password :P 00.18.10 # user 00.18.11 # and 'rockbox' 00.18.15 # in that order 00.18.18 # with that case 00.18.29 # Ooh 00.18.34 # Thanks so much it worked! 00.18.54 # Can i put my patches in here and patch up the CVS with vmware? 00.19.02 Join Bagder [0] (n=daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 00.19.29 # sure 00.19.45 # you've now got a fully qualified developer environment 00.20.14 # Paul_The_Nerd: what, smb is case-sensitive? 00.20.22 # Wow 00.20.41 # preglow: He had the I and A transposed 00.20.42 # preglow: it differentiates between ai and ia 00.21.26 # Paul_The_Nerd: yes, also, i am blind 00.22.15 # too much beer? 00.22.32 # no, that just makes me go cross-eyed, not blind 00.23.11 Quit Febs ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.23.12 Quit bluebrother ("Leaving") 00.23.44 Join |reezeh| [0] (n=reezeh@reezeh.gotadsl.co.uk) 00.24.55 # anyway 00.24.57 # sleep time 00.25.00 # have a blast 00.26.42 Quit wooo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.27.47 # preglow: Username isn't case sensitive with windows networking. Password is, of course 00.30.06 # Thanks again you guys, it worked for me. Maybe I'll write a tutorial on the forums 00.31.04 Quit lookingforhelp ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.35.38 # If someone with an fm recorder or recorder v2 is around - please test the latest bleeding edge (whether the battery symbol & charging animation are working as intended) 00.44.06 Join haibane [0] (n=haibane@adsl-155-139-240.asm.bellsouth.net) 00.44.14 # hi guys 00.45.02 # quick question for anyone who knows about the album art stuff. I get my album art to show up, but all my text is all over. What patch do I need for that? 00.45.26 # Scroll Margins 00.46.06 # thanks man 00.46.09 # and hello again 00.46.14 # it can also be that you use the wrong font 00.47.21 Quit Kohlrabi ("Hello my name is CoolClonk .") 00.52.03 # oh 00.52.04 # hmm 00.52.24 # make[1]: *** [/home/haibane/rockbox-devel/build/apps/screens.o] Error 1 00.52.24 # make: *** [all] Error 2 00.52.40 # that is what I get when I do the compile with the current scroll margins build 00.52.46 Join Daishi [0] (n=daishi@ool-45703854.dyn.optonline.net) 00.52.51 # it also has errors on certain hulks 00.53.04 # oh no, watch out for the hulk 00.53.09 # haha 00.53.12 # Well, since the patch didn't apply cleanly, that's probably why it doesn't compile. 00.53.20 # right 00.53.55 # do I have to clean out what I have in order for it to compile in the future or is there someway to remove the damage the patch did? 00.54.07 Quit vertz ("leaving") 00.54.27 # Was it patch -r or patch -R the patchfile? 00.54.30 # -R 00.54.35 # Does case matter? 00.54.39 # yes 00.54.47 # Alrighty, patch -R -p0 blah.patch 00.54.49 Quit xmixahlx ("blah blah blah") 00.54.49 # -r is another option 00.54.58 # something about the reject file 00.55.20 # Apparently it's been a while since I removed a patch. 00.55.29 # haha 00.55.34 # nice 00.55.45 # in the future, use --dry-run to save time 00.56.22 # what do you mean? 00.56.37 Nick Cillian is now known as SomeAnonymousDud (n=cillian@host86-143-53-116.range86-143.btcentralplus.com) 00.56.48 # I would do this: cvs diff -u > *.diff & then: patch -R < *.diff 00.57.18 # i would do cvs diff -u | patch -R -p0 00.58.11 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-133-167.pools.arcor-ip.net) 00.58.21 # yes... I forgot the -p) 00.58.26 # -p0 00.59.01 # cvs diff: No CVSROOT specified! Please use the `-d' option 00.59.01 # cvs [diff aborted]: or set the CVSROOT environment variable. 00.59.17 # that is what I get when I do the recommended by mikachu 00.59.55 # haibane: you should be in the source root dir when you type that 01.00.08 # ah ok 01.00.31 Join sunnuntaivaihe [0] (n=esf@c-71-234-143-92.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 01.00.42 Quit Kohlrabi (Client Quit) 01.01.43 # I wish the stupid scrolling margins worked though lol 01.01.58 Quit obo ("bye") 01.02.54 # haibane: you can make it work... 01.03.38 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 01.04.20 # and I can program too 01.04.40 Part Paul_The_Nerd 01.14.40 Nick SomeAnonymousDud is now known as Cillian (n=cillian@host86-143-53-116.range86-143.btcentralplus.com) 01.17.17 # \o/ Yuppie!!! I got my first conflicts on CVS update! :) 01.20.56 Join P-NuT [0] (n=P-NuT@fw.office.unitedip.net.au) 01.21.04 # amiconn? 01.21.28 # yes? 01.21.32 # Hi all. I saw the screenshots of rockbox, does it come with colors not monochrome? 01.21.48 # "Two-colour animation kept for non-b&w targets.' 01.21.51 # what does that mean? 01.22.45 # Slasheri added two-colour animation for iriver (and afaiu it also works on ipod video) 01.23.11 # *puzzled* didn't see the update.. 01.23.22 # Battery symbol is filled up to the current charge level with black (or fg colour) 01.23.39 # The animation move from this level to 100% in grey 01.23.42 # *moves 01.23.47 # ah, nice idea. 01.23.54 # pffft. 01.24.11 Part P-NuT ("Leaving") 01.24.13 # I kept that, and extended the start-from-current level idea to the b&w targets 01.24.31 # amiconn, useful change :) k, thanks for clarification. 01.24.35 # ..including player 01.24.49 # ..which was completely broken by Slasheri's change 01.24.57 # haha. 01.25.14 # I'll change some more things 01.25.39 # cool. :) 01.25.40 # First of all, all targets that support charging will get a charging state indication 01.25.58 # ..even those which can't monitor the charging itself 01.26.10 # ..other than by checking the voltage 01.26.48 # Only the number of states will differ depending on th elevel of charging control 01.27.07 # did something unexpected happen to the fonts? 01.27.34 # cool.. 01.27.43 # pill, other than them being moved to a new zip like a month ago.. 01.27.48 # no, not that i know of. 01.28.24 # Ipods other than the video need some more work 01.40.50 # re 01.48.38 # ah nice to know that the VMware image comes handy for newcomers :) 01.49.24 # The network issue is killing me though, if the network settings in host are weird, then //debian/user will not work. 01.49.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.55.56 Part pixelma 01.57.50 Join Xinux [0] (n=Xinux@71-85-243-55.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) 01.58.14 # so since I haven't said much in a while... anyone know of an alternative to scrolling margins? 02.11.12 # haibane: There isn't 02.14.04 Join ts-x [0] (n=0cad6dbb@labb.contactor.se) 02.16.20 # haibane: You can adjust the line spacing so that the tag items appear just past the album art, but you won't be able to scroll... 02.24.11 # haibane: if you want to use the scroll margins patch you have to insert manually the rejected parts of the patch 02.24.43 # 2 conflicts to xerw... 02.25.06 # ooops... 02.25.08 Join Benacool [0] (n=benacool@toronto-HSE-ppp4042909.sympatico.ca) 02.25.10 # sorry 02.31.21 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.31.41 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3025.gwdg.de) 02.32.10 Quit Poka64 ("time for sleep") 02.32.31 # sorry forgot this was open how do you adjust the line spacings? 02.33.26 # and what do you mean I wouldn't be able to scroll 02.38.24 Quit Strath (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.43.44 Join JdGordon [0] (i=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 02.46.15 Join Paul_The_Ner1 [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 02.47.03 Join Strath [0] (n=donat@dpc67143207026.direcpc.com) 02.48.38 Join PaulJam_ [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3002.gwdg.de) 02.55.28 # haibaine: I mean physically inserting whatever amount of spaces are required to space past the album art for each tag line e.g. ' %ia' etc. 02.55.46 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.55.58 Nick PaulJam_ is now known as PaulJam (n=pauljam@vpn-3002.gwdg.de) 02.56.20 # That method would space it properly - you just wouldn't be able to scroll (or the tags would scroll over the album art) 02.58.02 Quit dpro (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.58.51 Quit Genre9mp3 () 03.15.19 Quit JdGordon (Remote closed the connection) 03.16.16 Join JdGordon [0] (i=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 03.16.51 Join BHSPitMonkey_ [0] (n=Steve-O@adsl-68-88-140-222.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 03.21.05 Join BHSPitMonkey__ [0] (n=Steve-O@adsl-65-67-112-198.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 03.21.30 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Nick collision from services.) 03.21.42 Nick BHSPitMonkey__ is now known as BHSPitMonkey (n=Steve-O@adsl-65-67-112-198.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 03.23.50 Join BHSPitMonkey__ [0] (n=Steve-O@adsl-64-123-188-246.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 03.25.38 Part JdGordon 03.25.40 Quit BHSPitMonkey__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.28.45 Join JdGordon [0] (i=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 03.38.08 Quit BHSPitMonkey_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.41.42 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.49.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.55.32 Quit PaulJam (".") 03.58.52 Quit sunnuntaivaihe ("get irssix!") 03.59.28 Quit haibane ("Leaving") 04.00.42 Quit Daishi ("Client exiting...") 04.02.01 # gah, never try streaming video over a 10mbit connection :p 04.02.43 # sorry.. scratch that.. never try watching video over XDMCP over a 10mbit connection.. 04.11.53 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=Steve-O@adsl-66-139-199-11.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 04.15.46 Join maeck [0] (n=chatzill@h-67-100-139-10.dnvtco56.covad.net) 04.19.39 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB13180.ipt.aol.com) 04.28.26 Quit maeck ("Chatzilla 0.9.72 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]") 04.37.56 Quit Rob2222_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.39.27 Join Rob2222_ [0] (n=Miranda@ACB3B5B0.ipt.aol.com) 04.44.00 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.52.19 Join Cisalus [0] (i=Cisalus@cpe-74-67-204-143.twcny.res.rr.com) 04.52.38 Part Cisalus 05.01.05 Quit Myst` () 05.01.18 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB7F669.ipt.aol.com) 05.19.25 Quit Rob2222_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05.22.38 Quit ts-x ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 05.27.22 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=Steve-O@adsl-65-71-93-28.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 05.28.15 Quit TeaSea ("Leaving") 05.29.14 Quit BHSPitLappy (Client Quit) 05.29.39 Quit rotator ("zzzzzzzzz") 05.31.40 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=Steve-O@adsl-65-71-93-28.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 05.36.19 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-27-172.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 05.37.04 Join dj-fu [0] (n=deejay@202-169-207-90.worldnet.co.nz) 05.39.21 Join Myst [0] (i=Myst@dsl-202-72-159-232.wa.westnet.com.au) 05.39.30 Nick Myst is now known as Myst` (i=Myst@dsl-202-72-159-232.wa.westnet.com.au) 05.44.19 Join haiyai [0] (n=morg@c-71-195-99-95.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 05.44.59 # Hi 05.47.06 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.48.27 Quit midkay ("Leaving") 05.49.03 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 05.49.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.50.09 Join EbErT [0] (n=EbErT@dblt-216-227-25-183.gtcom.net) 05.54.11 Join qwm [0] (n=qwm@h147n2fls32o1010.telia.com) 05.58.54 Quit slarti (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.59.02 Join slarti [0] (i=slarti@gentoo/developer/slarti) 06.01.08 # hi 06.01.41 # hi 06.01.42 # :D 06.01.48 # heya 06.02.35 # whats up? 06.03.54 # not a lot 06.04.01 # procrastinating 06.04.04 # study sucks :( 06.04.18 # I here that 06.05.54 # are you guys working on the port? 06.06.47 # nope 06.06.53 # not me 06.07.10 Quit Benacool () 06.09.12 # do you use rockbox 06.20.04 # i dont have an ipod yet 06.20.11 # so no 06.20.22 # (or any other dap for that matter) 06.26.40 Quit dj-fu (Remote closed the connection) 06.27.59 Quit slarti (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.28.07 Join slarti_ [0] (i=slarti@gentoo/developer/slarti) 06.44.56 # gigabeat 06.48.52 Quit haiyai ("Leaving") 07.00.02 Join RoC_MM [0] (i=dragon@dsl-29-8.cofs.net) 07.00.39 # markun is the gigabeat man 07.01.39 Quit EbErT (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.08.25 Quit RoC_MM ("Leaving") 07.09.51 Join Brunellus [0] (n=luigi@ip68-100-18-88.dc.dc.cox.net) 07.10.33 # hi all; I'm running the daily CVS build on an iRiver H340. Some high-bitrate oggs are not playing...is this a known issue? 07.14.15 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.18.38 Quit Xinux ("Leaving") 07.24.36 # morning everyone... 07.25.21 Quit BioVorE (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.31.57 Join perplexity^ [0] (n=joust@ldb121.emirates.net.ae) 07.32.09 # I'm running the daily CVS build on an iRiver H340. Some high-bitrate oggs are not playing...is this a known issue? 07.33.51 # try asking once more... maybe ppl will give an answer then :p 07.35.12 # Brunellus: Q10? 07.35.14 Quit perplexity (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07.35.22 Nick perplexity^ is now known as perplexity (n=joust@ldb121.emirates.net.ae) 07.35.24 # markun, not sure, but probably something like that 07.35.26 # sorry JdGordon 07.36.14 # I have lower-q oggs that do play fine, but lately I nudged the q up on the last several I've been encoding, and rockbox chokes. the iriver factory firmware plays them just fine. 07.37.05 # Didn't think the H340 would have problems with it. Do you have EQ enabled? 07.37.34 # in rockbox? 07.37.40 # yes 07.37.41 # not sure. I hadn't touched it. 07.39.17 # EQ is not enabled. 07.39.18 # btw, maybe a lossless encoding is more for you if you like very high quality and bitrates, but that doesn't solve the real problem of you oggs not playing of course. 07.39.45 # markun, I'm starting to come around to that. Unfortunately, it's many many discs too late... 07.40.18 # You don't have the CD's anymore? 07.40.32 # I do, but ripping/reencoding would be a major pain 07.40.51 # But not 'too' late 07.40.52 # I have about 3400 oggs. 07.41.35 # are q10 ogg vorbis files simply not supported yet? 07.42.09 # I thought they were, but perhaps not. 07.42.33 # when I try to play one of the affected files, it shows (root) (root), the filename, O:00/0:00 ?kBit (no id) 07.42.59 # attempting to play the file directly has rockbox skipping to the next and showing the spanner in the top-right 07.44.14 # I'll make a q10 file and try it 07.44.21 # i don't use oggs... :\ 07.44.56 # sharpe: great 07.45.12 # markun, just so you know, I'm using oggenc 07.45.22 # me too 07.45.34 # would you like the oggenc commandline options? 07.45.40 # ok 07.45.55 # -o %m -a %a -l %d -t %n -d %y -G %G -b %b %w -N %t 07.46.09 # no wait, that's not right. 07.47.12 # You set the bitrate by hand? 07.47.20 # omaaldtndyggbbwnt... that's an odd word. 07.47.40 # markun, yes 07.47.45 # bitrate was at 192 07.48.15 # That should be way less than q10 07.48.54 # thought so. q6 maybe? 07.49.29 # Let me check 07.49.34 # still doesn't make them any more usable by rockbox. 07.49.52 # yes, q6 07.49.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.50.14 # yup. still not usable, though 08.00.29 Join muesli|delhi [0] (n=muesli_t@125.23.18.131) 08.06.35 Part Paul_The_Ner1 08.07.30 Quit Brunellus ("Ex-Chat") 08.09.07 Join Brunellus [0] (n=luigi@ip68-100-18-88.dc.dc.cox.net) 08.10.10 Part JdGordon 08.10.48 Quit Brunellus (Client Quit) 08.11.24 Join JdGordon [0] (i=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 08.37.16 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@fhrouter83.fh-wuerzburg.de) 08.51.35 Join wehn [0] (n=826600b0@labb.contactor.se) 08.54.28 Join petur [0] (n=d4efd6a6@labb.contactor.se) 08.54.35 # strange 08.55.46 Join pondlife [0] (n=Miranda@cpc1-rdng11-0-0-cust472.winn.cable.ntl.com) 08.57.15 # Does anyone know of how to bring up the file tree context menu (with delete etc) using the H100 remote? 08.59.05 # holding Navi on the main does it, but the remote key with all the corresponding fuctions (Navi/menu/preset) doesn't seem to do it. 08.59.58 # Hold play 09.01.06 # excellent, thanks. (don't know how i missed it) 09.01.41 Join JBGood [0] (n=Johnq@66.216.165.90.dynamic.dejazzd.com) 09.07.48 Join bluebrother [0] (i=MJ5u0l1a@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 09.15.21 Join B4gder [0] (n=daniel@static-213-115-255-230.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se) 09.18.01 Quit wehn ("CGI:IRC") 09.18.07 Quit `3nergy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.19.55 Join `3nergy [0] (n=3nergy@techgaming.net) 09.20.18 Quit jbauman (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 09.22.55 Join kdrlx [0] (n=kdrlx@203.124.133.115) 09.23.12 Quit perplexity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.24.02 Join perplexity [0] (n=joust@ldf756.emirates.net.ae) 09.27.14 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-93-2.austin.res.rr.com) 09.29.20 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-121-193.VIC.netspace.net.au) 09.29.40 Quit bluebrother ("Leaving") 09.32.21 Join theli_ua [0] (n=theli@pension-icom.intercom.net.ua) 09.34.05 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 09.37.40 Quit kdrlx (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- State of the art IRC") 09.45.27 Quit JdGordon ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.11") 09.49.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.58.52 Join Zagor [0] (n=bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 10.01.50 Join JdGordon [0] (i=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 10.05.42 Join Poka64 [0] (i=peter@hd5e241c0.gavlegardarna.gavle.to) 10.08.28 # hey LinusN, did u see my logf stuff on the ml? 10.09.01 # yes i did, i just haven't had time to review it? 10.09.33 # you really should write better mails JdGordon 10.09.46 # as they complained on 10.10.05 # bah, ill pretend english isnt my 1st language :D 10.10.11 # well 10.10.23 # you won't be taken seriously when you write like a little kid 10.10.34 # imho 10.10.36 # bah! 10.10.51 # and I'm not even a native enlgish speaker/reader 10.11.16 # you can bah, I don't think that changes much 10.11.34 # I'm only telling you what I think, you're free to ignore 10.11.43 # It's true that many people lose interest in an email as soon as they see that sort of writing. 10.11.53 # I do 10.11.56 # cmon.. its not that bad it is? 10.12.20 # as I said, you won't get the attention you want it to get 10.12.51 # It's also not that hard to type out full words, and pay just a little bit more attention when you write. It's a matter of the fact that many people will make assumptions about you based on the face you present. 10.12.54 # the better english and correct spelling and grammer you use, the more people will read it and the better you and your ideas will appear 10.13.05 # In the real world it's how you look, what you wear. On the internet, it's how clearly you express yourself in most cases. 10.13.52 # besides 10.13.58 # Date: 03-Jun-2006 23:53 <- my excuse... who can be expecte to write properly @ midnight? 10.14.11 # It's 3 AM where I am right now. :-P 10.14.12 # people who are bad at english have an even harder time to read "weird" english 10.14.17 # * JdGordon goes to kill english teachers for making me not give 2 shits about the english language :D 10.14.34 # * petur sends Paul_The_Nerd to bed 10.14.53 # petur: In all fairness, I just woke up. I fell asleep far too early. 10.15.01 # haha 10.15.05 # rofl 10.15.17 # well goodmorning then ;) 10.15.47 # roflmorning 10.16.02 # I'm taking a C/C++ course over the summer, more to fill in some credits than anything, and ended up staying up all night a few nights ago knocking out the whole semester's homework. 10.16.19 # And that's of course thrown everything off. 10.16.23 # JdGordon: contrary to popular opinion, it isn't an english teachers job to make sure you can read and write english properly. 10.16.32 # that should really be done well before you get to high school 10.16.55 # i learned my english from c64 games and computer magazines :P 10.17.02 # the english teacher's supposed to encourage critical analysis and form, not spelling, grammar and coherency :) 10.17.29 # ... whatever... 10.17.39 # oh noes!! i used unnescacery dots! 10.17.56 # unnescacery dots, yes ,-) 10.18.43 # unnecessary Ellipsis you mean? :) 10.20.02 # * ashridah installs ubuntu amd64 10.20.15 # I even hate spelling mistakes and typos in program comments ;) 10.20.31 # * JdGordon just installed dapper on this comp... MUCH faster than breezy 10.23.01 # so anyway, whats the story with 3.0? 10.24.55 # It's not out yet? 10.27.37 # Honestly, I'm starting to lean in favour of cancelling the freeze. "Due to certain currently unfixable showstopper bugs, 3.0 has been cancelled. Once the H300 power issue is resolved and TagCache functions more fully, we will re-enter a bug-fixing freeze with the intent of releasing 3.0. Until these issues are fixed, though, the freeze is stopping progress more than it is encouraging bug fixing." Or something like that. 10.28.00 # I agree 10.28.12 # It seems the fairest way to treat it. 10.28.55 # that does just mean more bugs down the track when u want to try the freeze again. 10.28.58 # Then, before re-entering the freeze, we can go through the tracker and create a specific checklist of bugs. Of course, new ones will be found during it, but that way work isn't happening on getting features like TagCache integrated. 10.29.15 # And while the playback rewrite is awesome, I think it added a lot of delay into the freeze because it did introduce a lot of bugs along the way. 10.29.27 # album art should be in 3.0 as well, and i want a helicopter 10.32.39 # Doesn't the album art patch currently introduce bugs into tagcache? 10.33.33 # Yeah, I think it's all messed up at the moment. Well, last I looked, which was a while ago as I figure 3.0 will have to happen first before album art is in CVS anyway. (I wasn't being serious that AA should be in 3.0, just daydreaming.) 10.34.36 # Well, if the feature freeze were to get released, it would become a possibility, but I mean, it'd have to not knowingly increase the count of bugs. :) 10.35.43 # yeah, and given the complications so far that's unlikely. 10.38.30 # I tihnk helicopters can cause crashes too :( 10.38.45 # Those are much more of the "serious injury" to "lethal" category 10.40.22 # i worked some on the power issue yesterday 10.40.27 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 10.40.31 # Any news? 10.40.53 # not really, but i traced a few more signals, and i might have found some good clues for petur 10.41.12 # That's good at least. 10.41.15 # * petur jumps in the air 10.41.24 # look at PortPinAssignments 10.41.33 # * petur gets strange looks from coworkers 10.42.25 # WHOA 10.43.17 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@dsl-88-218-17-158.customers.vivodi.gr) 10.43.56 # would be nice to know for sure what GPIO pins 28 and 29 do 10.44.32 # ok 10.46.27 # Wee, hi LinusN :) 10.46.28 # but the reset and d_suspend pins are *great* info 10.48.08 # petur: i fiddled a little with those pins, and suddenly it consumed 300mA instead of 100mA :-) 10.48.21 # duh 10.48.26 # haha.. no we r trying to reduce power usage.. :p 10.48.28 # LinusN: Did you find out which chip consumes the extra power? 10.48.33 # no 10.48.47 # and it annoys me 10.48.48 # you probably activated the charge-pump ;) 10.48.50 # good for a raipd deep cycle battery test then :) 10.48.56 # Ok, so I'll try to find some time and do some temp measurements tonight 10.48.57 # haha 10.49.24 # Still have that infrared thermometer available :) 10.49.35 # could even add a "pocket warmer" config entry.. 10.51.24 # LinusN: Do you know which combination triggered the even higher consumption? 10.52.58 # * amiconn already knew about gpio5 from the disassembly 10.53.07 # Should have documented it :/ 11.04.33 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 11.08.22 # amiconn: when i negated the reset and the suspend pins 11.19.32 # Why negate the reset? also, negating d_suspend wakes up the isp1362, so I'm not surprised by the power increase 11.20.58 # of course, that's what i wanted to accomplish 11.21.13 # ok :) 11.22.19 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@fhrouter83.fh-wuerzburg.de) 11.27.05 Part ashridah ("Leaving") 11.27.26 # * LinusN is charging his new ipod 11.28.06 # LinusN: which one? 11.28.18 # video 60gb 11.28.42 # \o/ 11.28.54 # confetti time! 11.28.59 # i just couldn't resist 11.29.13 # mp3holic 11.29.27 # they practically give them away these days too 11.29.39 # wee, finally white earbuds - a fashion statement! :-) 11.29.45 # haha 11.29.50 # meeeh 11.38.01 # LinusN: First impressions? 11.38.55 # none really, i just packed it up and charging it for the first time 11.39.04 # the form factor is nice 11.39.09 # large screen 11.39.36 # the screen is nice indeed 11.40.27 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@rockbox/developer/tucoz) 11.42.16 # Now that the webmasters are here. Do you agree with preglow that we should keep the ipod-installer etc in a safe area. That is, not in the wiki. To prevent abuse 11.42.55 # writelock the page? 11.43.04 # There's not an official ipod installer yet... 11.43.12 # As it is now, anyone can upload a root-kit installer with the same name as the ipod-installer 11.43.38 # http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/06/07/nvidia_mobilemedia_play/ 11.44.18 # At the moment anyone can upload anything and claim it's an installer, and we wouldn't know until someone reports back that it isn't. 11.44.42 # Once there's an official installer, it'll probably be available at the daily build page anyway, which qualifies as 'protected' 11.44.54 # Paul_The_Nerd, exactly. That is why I propose a www.rockbox.org/installers or something like that 11.45.05 # it's not everyday those files are updated after all 11.45.20 # and mainly by key-contributors 11.45.26 Join bluebrother [0] (i=uhcn@rzstud5.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de) 11.46.15 # I don't understand the point exactly... 11.46.20 # The only existing installer is the 2.5 one, right? 11.46.21 Join dpro [0] (n=x@chello080109121047.8.15.vie.surfer.at) 11.46.51 # I wouldn't know. My point is just that the installers/patchers should be kept safe. 11.47.05 # Well... aren't they already? 11.47.09 # Is it true that there will be no new features in version 3.0? This makes me wonder, why does it count as a major release if there are no new features? 11.47.19 # pekuja: Compare it to 2.5 11.47.20 # Unoffical or official doesn't matter. 11.47.26 # pekuja: there are numerous new features 11.47.36 # ok, I must have misunderstood then 11.47.40 # its just a matter of what "new" is 11.47.45 # pekuja: There is nothing new relative to say... today's daily 11.47.46 # pekuja, new targets 11.48.06 # Paul_The_Nerd, haha, well you'd think that was kind of obvious :-) 11.48.16 # well, 3.0 features like 8 new music formats compared to 2.5 ;-) 11.48.20 # tucoz: So you're saying, forbid people from uploading installers to the wiki, and require them to do it through us? They're just gonna host 'em offsite then, because even now the wiki is too much hassle for most of 'em. 11.48.39 # I was just thinking because I remember someone commenting something like "I can't believe people still think there will be new features in 3.0" 11.48.57 # Paul_The_Nerd, no. I am just saying that the installers provided by rockbox should not go through the wiki. 11.49.07 # pekuja: yes, new features compare to the daily builds I believe 11.49.23 # pekuja: It's not to a LOT of people, oddly enough. There's this impression going around that "Rockbox 3" is going to solve all the world's problems, and people seem to not realize that all the code that's done is already in CVS, and that it's just a daily build with the 3.0 stamp attached to it saying "We dub this release quality." 11.49.33 # tucoz: They already don't. Problem solved. :) 11.49.56 # the manual has wiki installer tool links 11.50.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.50.03 # Hm 11.50.07 # That's not good then. 11.50.13 # being my point 11.50.15 # pekuja: I suspect you may be quoting me. 11.50.24 # well, they could. That is my point. What if Han Solo uploads a root-kit installer to the wiki late at night 11.50.35 # pekuja: In which case, yes, I meant "relative to what's available right now" as opposed to "Compared to the previous release version" 11.50.38 # and no matter if we write protect a page, there might be wiki bugs 11.50.48 # Paul_The_Nerd, hehe, I might. it was on this channel I think, and the person was pointing to a forum post about 3.0 11.50.51 Quit perplexity (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.51.22 # tucoz: Yeah, but as I said if there's a protected installer page, people are gonna just host installers offsite because it's easier. Have you noticed how many iPod installers are hosted elsewhere? 11.51.24 # And the manual points to that file. Hurray. then we have OMFG, ROCKBOX INSTALLED A ROOT-KIT 11.51.44 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-76-218.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr) 11.51.44 # Have the manual point to the official "Downloads" page 11.52.10 # Paul_The_Nerd, I don't care about the installers hosted elsewhere. I care about the "official" ones. 11.52.14 # provided by rockbox 11.52.24 # official != released 11.52.29 # tucoz: You said unofficial installers as well. 11.52.52 Join webguest43 [0] (n=cb628702@labb.contactor.se) 11.52.53 # well, I meant unofficial as in not released 11.52.57 # The _only_ official installer right now is the windows installer for 2.5 11.53.01 # At rockbox.org/download 11.53.05 # hehe 11.53.12 # Released or not 11.53.15 # It's the only one supported 11.53.28 # Ok. The iriver patcher then 11.53.33 # fwpatcher.exe? 11.53.37 # yes 11.53.44 #