--- Log for 28.06.106 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 2 days and 16 hours ago 00.04.13 Quit pewpewlasergunz ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 00.06.21 # LinusN: i'll find one of the song files for you, brb 00.06.28 Part LinusN 00.06.47 # dangit 00.12.22 # international phone calls have gone dirt cheap lately 00.12.55 # regular calls? 00.13.02 # yeah 00.14.48 Quit EbErT () 00.15.53 Quit SDP ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 00.16.13 Quit dj-fu ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 00.16.59 Join TCK [0] (i=TCK@81-178-72-12.dsl.pipex.com) 00.17.12 Join EbErT [0] (n=EbErT@adsl-211-220-143.asm.bellsouth.net) 00.17.14 # rotator: i think you can just commit it, really 00.17.42 # preglow: ok, i will then :) 00.20.52 # yay 00.20.57 # commit! 00.21.33 # :D The first one in several days! 00.21.46 # indeed 00.23.43 Join hotwire____ [0] (n=hotwire@toronto-HSE-ppp4322467.sympatico.ca) 00.25.38 Join hotwire_____ [0] (n=hotwire@toronto-HSE-ppp4320283.sympatico.ca) 00.33.39 Quit hotwire____ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.33.52 Quit hotwire (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.37.05 Join lds__ [0] (n=lds@d02v-89-83-224-162.d4.club-internet.fr) 00.37.56 # uh oh! problem with the build servers, it looks like 00.38.00 Quit lds_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.38.23 # yeah, debian unstable tries to uninstall libsdl1.2-dev at the moment 00.39.24 # hmm, "configure didn't find sdl-config, which indicates that you don't have SDL (properly) installed" 00.39.39 # that's Chisti's server 00.39.42 # I'll mail her 00.39.58 Quit ender` (" Is there like a way to put a compiler in "Just trust me on that one" mode?Is there like a way to put a compiler in "Just tru) 00.40.04 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 00.41.01 # disabled sdl on her server for now 00.41.35 # now can someone please close my tracker entry? :) http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5602 00.41.43 Quit EbErT () 00.42.11 # now you can do it yourself ;-) 00.42.24 # weee, thanks! 00.42.27 # yihaaa 00.43.05 # 4 days between 2 commits... 00.43.50 # yeah, the feature freeze seems to have become a developer freeze :/ 00.49.50 # ...or maybe it's just the world cup to blame :p 00.50.29 # in my case the world cup is not to blame, just life in general :/ 00.51.15 Join user01 [0] (n=a@c-71-205-200-88.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 00.51.36 # how do i know if my ipod is formatted for w32? 00.51.39 # pretty much the case with me too 00.52.08 # but now i've gotta sleep 00.52.08 # later 00.52.14 Join ts-x [0] (n=0cad6dbb@labb.contactor.se) 00.53.12 # i just took it out of the box i got it just to try to put rockbox on it :D 00.54.38 Quit petur ("Zzzz") 01.01.53 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 01.02.51 # user01: Uh... if windows can read it, it should be :P 01.02.53 Quit mikearthur ("Konversation terminated!") 01.03.03 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.03.21 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB660A6.ipt.aol.com) 01.03.25 # And when you open the drive's properties it should say filesystem: FAT32 01.03.42 # < Back to his presentation about digital image editing ~_~ 01.05.58 # apo`DIE: windows is asking me to format it...is that safe to do? 01.06.13 # Um... 01.06.15 # Dunno 01.06.19 # read the friendly manual? 01.06.20 # ^^; 01.06.31 # user01: start the ipod, and go to About, it should say mac or windows there 01.08.20 # Man... I dunno what to write anymore ~_~ 01.08.24 # Mikachu: nope it doesnt 01.08.39 # its a 4g grayscale 01.09.15 # Settings -> About -> Scroll down 01.09.43 # apo`DIE: i did the last entry is model number 01.09.49 # Oo 01.10.16 # Then just plug it in and run the iPod updater 01.14.34 # ah off the apple site ? 01.14.56 # apo`DIE: was hoping to just install rock box out of the box 01.15.18 # Don't you have a CD that came with it? 01.15.21 # yep 01.15.26 # Then just run it :P 01.15.54 # ah ok i thought it would install itunes cr** 01.16.15 # Hm 01.16.25 # Does anybody here happen to know when the first graphic tablet was invented? 01.16.56 Join falso [0] (i=bud@a81-84-234-14.cpe.netcabo.pt) 01.17.00 # hello. 01.17.24 # anyone knows if there is any way to make tagcache read flac tags 01.17.34 # depends what you mean by graphic but i think cave people had slate tablets...least my grandfather did 01.17.51 # apo`DIE, wikipedia is pretty useful for these things: The first graphics tablet resembling contemporary tablets was the RAND Tablet, also known as the Grafacon (for Graphic Converter), introduced in 1964. 01.18.09 # midkay: Already found it 01.18.21 # I was searching in the German article, and that doesn't have it 01.18.21 Quit ts-x ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.18.22 # ^^; 01.18.26 # :) 01.20.01 # it doesnt matter who first made it anyway, its who first made money off of it...bill gates will tell you that :) 01.20.25 Quit _Lucretia_ ("Leaving") 01.20.41 # anyone? 01.20.46 # man ipod install makes you reboot... brb :P 01.22.01 # falso, no, tagcache just doesn't. 01.22.14 # user01, why not just say 'don't reboot'? 01.22.23 Quit user01 () 01.24.00 # midkay, any idea why? 01.24.07 # cause rockbox can read flac tags 01.24.17 # wait, 'flac tags'? 01.24.34 # like id3 tags in flac files? tagcache should recognize FLAC files.. 01.25.01 # but it doesnt 01.25.24 # it did for me, when i had FLAC files. 01.26.53 Join ashridah [0] (i=ashridah@220-253-123-105.VIC.netspace.net.au) 01.27.25 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=5343d4aa@labb.contactor.se) 01.28.01 # falso: All my files are FLAC, and tagcache has no problems... 01.28.19 # strange 01.29.14 # Does Rockbox display the tags when you play the files from the file browser? 01.29.21 # yes 01.29.25 # thats why i find it strange 01.29.59 # So what's the problem? None of your flac files show in tagcache, or they show as "unknown" ? 01.30.11 # they dont show up there 01.33.33 Join JoeyBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@cpe-66-87-126-135.il.sprintbbd.net) 01.34.04 Quit JoeBorn (Nick collision from services.) 01.34.37 Quit JoeyBorn (Client Quit) 01.34.49 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=jborn@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 01.35.16 Join JoeyBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@cpe-66-87-126-135.il.sprintbbd.net) 01.35.31 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 01.38.55 Quit obo ("bye") 01.39.19 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.40.39 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB660A6.ipt.aol.com) 01.41.13 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.42.40 Part ashridah ("Konversation terminated!") 01.43.00 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB660A6.ipt.aol.com) 01.46.13 # Whew 01.46.14 # Finished 01.46.17 Nick apo`DIE is now known as apo (n=r00t@dslb-088-065-068-093.pools.arcor-ip.net) 01.48.34 Join Spida [0] (n=timo@spinnennetz.org) 01.48.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.52.48 Quit hannesd (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.00.20 Join Aditya|Nap [0] (n=aditya@c-69-138-7-5.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 02.02.00 Part falso 02.02.13 Part Aditya|Nap 02.03.30 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 02.03.53 Part pixelma 02.07.20 Quit Spida (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.18.32 Join user01 [0] (n=a@c-71-205-200-88.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 02.18.43 # how do i exit the text editor? 02.25.31 Quit Kohlrabi ("Hello my name is CoolClonk .") 02.28.07 Quit scorche (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.29.21 Join BHSPitLappy2 [0] (i=steve-o@adsl-65-71-93-28.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 02.30.45 # does firewire work in rockbox to transfer? 02.37.13 Quit user01 () 02.38.48 Join _Lucretia_ [0] (n=munkee@dyn-62-56-61-133.dslaccess.co.uk) 02.40.14 Join OPP [0] (n=OPP@c-24-12-189-55.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 02.41.15 Quit lds__ ("Parti") 02.42.02 Join scorche [0] (i=ScorchE@208-110-158-188.customer.csolutions.net) 02.44.36 Quit PaulJam__ (".") 02.45.41 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.46.11 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (i=Steve-O@adsl-68-95-247-230.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 02.52.59 Quit BHSPitLappy2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.56.57 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=Steve-O@adsl-68-95-247-230.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 03.01.10 Join EbErT [0] (n=EbErT@adsl-211-220-143.asm.bellsouth.net) 03.03.41 Quit gromit` ("Coyote finally caught me") 03.03.44 Quit Rob2222 () 03.10.22 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB660A6.ipt.aol.com) 03.12.45 Join Chronon [0] (i=Chronon@d23-104.uoregon.edu) 03.13.25 # Greetings 03.23.31 Quit Chronon () 03.28.06 Join sharpe [0] (i=sharpe@user-0c8hc2u.cable.mindspring.com) 03.29.17 Join HCl_ [0] (i=hcl@titania.student.utwente.nl) 03.29.17 Quit HCl (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.30.38 Join Daishi [0] (n=daishi@ool-45703854.dyn.optonline.net) 03.32.51 Join smably [0] (n=smably@CPE00045ad69b08-CM0012c9a07828.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 03.33.06 Quit toxicfume (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.38.30 Quit JoeyBorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.47.34 Join sucka [0] (n=nn@host86-142-223-227.range86-142.btcentralplus.com) 03.49.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.52.16 Quit Daishi ("Client exiting...") 03.53.55 Quit sucka ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.01 :: www.XLhost.de )") 03.58.44 Join sucka [0] (n=nn@host86-142-223-227.range86-142.btcentralplus.com) 04.01.25 Quit actionshrimp (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.01.47 Join thomas [0] (n=thomas@bas15-toronto12-1168013888.dsl.bell.ca) 04.02.27 # Will a iPod HD work in a iRiver? Does anybody know? 04.02.52 Quit Poka64 (Remote closed the connection) 04.03.47 # anybody know why this hasn't been developed for Creative Zen players? Lack of interest, or is it hardware related? 04.04.19 # porting to a new player isn't easy 04.04.46 # Rob2222: i dont see why it wouldnt work 04.05.02 # yeah i'm just wondering because the creative zens are much more popular than some of the players already supported. 04.05.08 Quit davidc___ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.05.51 # thomas: it isnt about being the most popular...it is more of a matter of if certain people who are motivated enough and skilled enough come forward 04.06.14 # bah not me. 04.06.16 # and if they dont have the player/dont want to port it.. 04.06.20 # zens miss out on all the fun. 04.06.48 # scorche Cause Apple hase some hidden partitions on it. 04.07.27 # Rob2222: and you cant low-level the drive and re-partition it? 04.08.15 # atm i have a MK6006 drive here with a very strange behaviour. and i dont know if its from an apple. 04.08.19 # you haven't been able to low-level format a drive in the last 20 years 04.08.27 # i cant partition it with PM or windows partition. 04.08.27 # but you should be able to repartition it just fine 04.08.47 # HD-tune disc surface test got _no_ errors 04.08.48 # thomas: this is as far as creative has gone http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=3320.0 04.08.56 # thanks scorche 04.09.32 # windlg (western digital) refuses to write 00s on the disc 04.09.44 # i have no idea what to do atm 04.11.16 # is there a good low level format tool? 04.11.32 # Rob2222: sorry...i didnt mean low-level format 04.11.44 # i know 04.11.47 # fill with 00 04.11.51 # but as Mikachu said, just re-partitioning should be fine 04.11.52 # is ok, tpoo 04.12.08 # i cant re partionate ... i get an error. 04.12.19 # but i didnt get read/write errors 04.12.30 # what error? 04.12.40 # and what prog are you using to do this? 04.14.18 # f.e. hey workshop says when opening that drive: This drive contains a layout irregularity - the partition (....240 sectors) appears to be larger then the volume (.....241 sectors). This is likely a corrupt drive or some form of copy protection. 04.15.29 # Whindows Drivemanager says when formatting: The format couldnt be done errorless. 04.15.32 # -h 04.18.42 # well, there a 2 possibilities... 04.18.58 # there is a strange bit pattern on the disc that confuses all apps 04.19.05 # OR the drive is defect 04.19.28 # is there a tool that erases the full drive? at best from windows? 04.21.35 Part thomas ("Ex-Chat") 04.22.47 Quit sharpe (Connection timed out) 04.27.28 # Well, lets see if "Killdisk" can handle it. 04.32.43 # yes, Rob2222 there are programs that can write zero's through the whole disk 04.33.06 # my dad uses one for windows, dunno the name tho, and i use mac 04.34.18 Quit Rob2222 () 04.38.15 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB660A6.ipt.aol.com) 04.39.46 Quit sucka ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.01 :: www.XLhost.de )") 04.42.15 Quit hardeep ("BitchX: the NEW form of birth control!") 04.49.17 Join JoeyBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@adsl-75-3-37-27.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 04.51.24 Quit TeaSea ("Leaving") 04.53.30 Join BHSPitLappy2 [0] (i=steve-o@adsl-65-71-93-28.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 05.01.19 Join Rob2222_ [0] (n=Miranda@ACD0F027.ipt.aol.com) 05.05.15 Quit `axion_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.09.40 Quit JoeyBorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.10.14 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.10.44 Join sharpe [0] (i=sharpe@user-0c8hc2c.cable.mindspring.com) 05.19.32 # woohoo everyone? 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08.04.51 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.18.23 Join Zagor [0] (n=bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.24.05 Join anti33t [0] (i=antil33t@210-86-104-216.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) 08.27.38 Join saratoga [0] (n=80c4c198@labb.contactor.se) 08.27.48 Quit saratoga (Client Quit) 08.28.12 Join saratoga [0] (n=80c4c198@labb.contactor.se) 08.28.40 # i was skimming today's log and I noticed someone named "josh" asking about the 3G port 08.28.48 # anyone know who he is or how I can contact him? 08.29.18 # not sure how much help i'd be, but I could at least give him a rough idea of what was going on 08.31.52 # hmm i fixed my PC yay 08.33.40 Join gromit` [0] (n=gromit@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 08.34.06 Quit hotwire ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.3 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]") 08.36.34 Part midkay ("Leaving") 08.36.48 # morning 08.37.08 # hey amiconn 08.37.13 # Is it valid (by posix rules) if a path contains extraneous slashes? 08.37.15 # saratoga: lets just hope he comes back. he didn't leave any contact info, we only have his IP address 08.37.44 # I mean, is //path/to/file valid and does mean the same as /path/to/file ? 08.37.46 # amiconn: you mean trailing, or double? 08.38.16 # I think so, but haven't read that part of the specification. 08.38.40 # most systems treat it the same at least 08.38.41 # Beacuse, rockbox accepts this for normal paths, but not for multi-volume paths. //path/to/file works, but ///path/to/file does not 08.38.49 # at least it should work fine and is quite commonly used in scripts 08.39.10 # (but ///path/to/file would) 08.39.41 # The leading doble slash is the cause why the stats plugin does only index the internal flash on Ondio 08.41.14 # SO the question is whether to fix the stats plugin or fix dir.c 08.41.59 # fix dir.c and get rid of te problem for good... 08.42.10 # oooh me like that 08.42.25 Join muesli|delhi [0] (n=muesli_t@125.23.52.85) 08.43.05 Join ender` [0] (i=null@84.52.165.220) 08.43.21 # it seems like the strip_volume -function has the bug 08.43.35 # it should just ignore all leading slashes first 08.43.59 # theres a bug with the sound thing when you turn the ipod off, it keeps making a static noise 08.45.06 # Slasheri: The question is whether this is a bug, or whether extraneous slashes shouldn't be allowed 08.45.57 # if u disallow them there is a lot of work needed to enforce it.. 08.46.19 # * JdGordon is half asleep btw, so feel free to ignore and call me stupid :p 08.46.23 # amiconn: i would think fixing the bug might be better 08.47.19 # so extraneous slashes would be then allowed anywhere of the filename 08.48.19 # Cater for the lazy coders? ;) 08.48.25 # yup :D 08.48.58 # there's probably a fair amount of playlists in the world with double slashes too 08.49.10 # ? 08.49.19 # I've never seen one... 08.49.33 # What program would generate such playlists? 08.49.55 # broken ones :-) 08.50.30 # I'd rather want to adhere to posix here. 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I can't see why it would be. 09.55.38 # yes, but rsync only provides syncing (one way)... and i want the changes in both directions be synced (eg: deleting file on ipod -> file deleted on workstation, file added on workstation -> file added to ipod, new file on ipod -> file added to workstation ...), 09.56.02 # roland: you can always run rsync two times, one for each direction.. 09.56.10 # not really 09.56.14 # no? 09.56.19 # but otoh 09.56.22 # after the first rsync the dirs are synced 09.56.34 # roland: only if you allow rsync to remove files 09.56.35 # you can never delete anything if you sync two-way 09.57.08 # B4gder: exactly, that's a conflict that must be handled manually either way 09.57.37 # personally, I completely avoid taking that route 09.57.39 # dont think so: the underlying directory got a newer timestamp, so in some cases its not conflicting 09.58.10 # yeah, but dates on a DAP is likely to not be accurate over time 09.59.00 Quit chendo (Success) 09.59.14 Join dpro [0] (n=x@195.176.254.254) 09.59.29 Join chendo [0] (n=chendo@203-206-89-252.dyn.iinet.net.au) 10.00.34 # it conflicts only i think when the same file is manipulated on both machines... 10.01.42 # @zagor: don't know if vfat is the problem, perhaps the bottleneck USB. 10.02.05 # of the controller of the iPod... 10.06.45 Quit roland ("CGI:IRC") 10.06.53 Join roland [0] (n=d5ebc062@labb.contactor.se) 10.14.54 Quit finik- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.20.47 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3114.gwdg.de) 10.21.51 Join bluebrother [0] (i=jtARtnzD@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 10.26.16 # B4gder: You *can* delete files when syncing two-way, but it requires a history database 10.35.49 Join Mmmm [0] (n=mscarrat@cpc1-hem13-0-0-cust634.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 10.35.57 # right, that's another way 10.39.07 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 10.39.11 Join Seedy [0] (i=ben@85.64.200.85.dynamic.barak-online.net) 10.40.42 # didn't unison create one? 10.41.10 # I don't even know what unison is so I have no idea 10.45.05 Join webguest21 [0] (n=c38119cd@labb.contactor.se) 10.45.38 # roland: are you running unison with the fastcheck option? 10.47.53 # with that option on here it still takes a long time to create the initial database, but syncing after that is a lot faster 10.53.00 Quit Mmmm ("Byeee") 10.54.08 Join pmo [0] (n=pmo@AToulouse-157-1-58-163.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr) 10.57.09 # hmm... :( ... i'd like to access my AV500 through my linux notebook.. but not luck till now.. and sounds like googling doesn't help much, can someone give me some tips.. or anything.. one hour lost :( 10.57.50 # welcome to #rockbox 10.58.01 # this is a channel for... rockbox 10.59.29 # yes i had a look.. googling.. brought me in here.. complain to google ;-) ok.. well i see what you mean.. no thank for no help :) next time don't leave the door open.. in case some junk people like me just come in, and bother your silent room :) 10.59.51 # we show them the door too 11.00.00 # go whine somewhere else 11.00.07 Part pmo ("Leaving") 11.00.15 # shame on us for leaving the door open... 11.00.35 # * petur checks if the lock is jammed 11.01.24 # * petur fails to find the door 11.01.34 # darn, someone stole it again? ;-P 11.02.13 # whats an av500? 11.02.20 # an Archos thing 11.02.25 # ask google 11.02.35 # they are quite nice 11.02.50 # it's a pmp (movie stuff) I think 11.02.55 # yeps 11.03.02 # runs linux even iirc 11.03.08 # and some of the models use a 2.5 drive too ^_^ 11.03.18 Quit lou (Remote closed the connection) 11.03.25 # too big for sports jacket pocket... 11.03.35 Join lou [0] (i=lou@lou.sh) 11.04.02 # they can also be used as a mobile pvr 11.05.26 # butters got a ninja star stuck in his eye 11.05.36 # heh..old ep 11.05.44 # ...and gets taken to the vet 11.06.17 # damn weather... 11.06.28 # lol 11.06.54 # 27C, sunlight and the evil crying of the birds... 11.07.48 # butters goddamit, we are trying to help you, stop being so much of an asshole 11.09.24 # anyway... it's exam-time, so the girls at university are well dressed... 11.09.29 # yay 11.09.40 # girls girls girls 11.09.57 # hell i thaught i was in OCNZ.... 11.11.05 Quit webguest21 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 11.11.44 Join Mushroom [0] (n=ask@196.211.89.142) 11.17.01 Join slimx [0] (n=slimx@81.255.106.202) 11.17.48 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-25-216.austin.res.rr.com) 11.21.56 Join juxtap [0] (n=juxtap@wbs-196-2-105-184.wbs.co.za) 11.27.18 Quit Paul_The_Nerd ("Leaving.") 11.27.36 Join TeaSea [0] (n=Thunderc@lonsdale.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 11.29.39 # * B4gder curses google 11.29.48 # h? 11.29.51 # er 11.29.51 # hm? 11.29.54 # they bloody hijacked my account and modified the email address for me 11.29.56 # ? 11.30.04 # * B4gder shakes fist 11.30.09 Quit Darkangel_Cec (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.30.17 # just because I got a gmail account 11.30.25 # they think I should use that for all my google crap 11.30.35 # bah 11.30.36 # and I do not agree 11.30.42 # understandable 11.30.45 # yeah, they're fairly big into centralization 11.30.52 # One day, it'll be "Google - We own you" 11.30.55 # suddently I couldn't login 11.30.57 # Mushroom, uhuh 11.31.06 # "one day"? :P 11.31.19 # idnar, they don't use that sentance yet 11.31.34 # not in public, but I'm sure they think so ;-) 11.31.40 # Ya, they're still pretending that "Don't be evil" means something 11.31.41 # uhuh 11.31.42 # "In Soviet Russia..." 11.31.53 # you own google ? 11.32.15 Quit petur ("worrrk") 11.33.08 # maybe we can use the rockbox fund to buy google and make them good again? ;-) 11.34.11 # will i get a job? 11.34.12 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@mrbg-d9b964d5.pool.mediaWays.net) 11.36.09 # sure, but not a paid one 11.36.12 # :-P 11.40.37 Part idnar 11.40.50 Join idnar [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 11.46.03 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-25-216.austin.res.rr.com) 11.46.46 Join bluebrother^ [0] (i=dCjoFw2V@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 11.49.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.51.35 Quit juxtap () 11.56.23 Join webguest29 [0] (n=d5436532@labb.contactor.se) 12.00.48 Quit bluebrother (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12.01.21 Nick bluebrother^ is now known as bluebrother (i=dCjoFw2V@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 12.08.17 Part Paul_The_Nerd 12.13.48 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 12.19.53 # A girl askes me to assemble a 60GB HD in a H340, that she bought. Now I have the unit here, the H340 has a broken earphone jack and it looks like the 60GB HD is defect to. I didnt manage it to partition it. :( 12.25.32 # Rob2222_ what are the exact symptoms? 12.25.59 Part ashridah ("Konversation terminated!") 12.31.45 # Well, the HD was partitioned. I build in, copied files on it. Put H300 to charge. Came back and saw that 80 % of the letters of the dirs and the filenames are strange letters. like ascii art. I tried to copy some of them => BSOD. After restart I deleted the partition and try to make a new. With all programs (Windows, Partition magic, SwissKnife) I got errors. But the drife performs under HD Tune a 12.31.45 # full surface test without errors. :( 12.31.55 Nick Rob2222_ is now known as Rob2222 (n=Miranda@ACD0F027.ipt.aol.com) 12.32.05 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.32.05 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 12.33.25 # f.e. hey workshop says when opening that drive: This drive contains a layout irregularity - the partition (....240 sectors) appears to be larger then the volume (.....241 sectors). This is likely a corrupt drive or some form of copy protection. 12.33.44 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p5493398C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 12.34.58 # SwissKnife crashes and Windows and Partition Magic gave only standard errors. 12.38.43 Join Mmmm [0] (n=mscarrat@cpc1-hem13-0-0-cust634.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 12.38.44 # hm 12.39.01 # I wiped the hole disc with 00s over night. 12.39.05 # Same problem. 12.39.24 # ATM i fear that the firmware of the drive is defect. 12.40.09 # I just dont know, if the drive was defect, or if the H340 damaged it. 12.40.52 Quit dpro (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.40.55 # no idea :( 12.41.14 # did you try the HDD with another player ? 12.41.32 # atm, i try the HDD in my 1,8" USB 2.0 adapter. 12.41.55 # can you boot the device and try if you can fix it with the internal format option? 12.42.25 # i could, had to reassemble, but afaik the H340 cant format 60gb discs 12.42.48 # Rob2222 very strange.. 12.43.39 # Yes, thats right! Cause it has no read errors the whole disc and the 00s wipe was good, to. 12.44.02 # But it wont let me partition the drive in H340 or USB adapter at 2 different pcs. 12.45.19 # what do you read back after wiping it with zeroes? 12.46.08 # I just tried to make a partition after it. 12.46.27 Quit chendo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.48.53 # iRiver FW says "Cant format" ... well thats normal with 60GB discs afaik 12.49.22 Join Gibbed [0] (i=rick@pool-71-108-2-183.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 12.49.24 Quit Rick (Nick collision from services.) 12.49.40 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-71-108-2-183.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 12.52.09 # And one strange thing: I start the Windows Partitioner, say create a new partition then there is a field where to set the size. Ther is in: 57224. Now i click the DOWN arrow and it jumps to 8 MB. OK so far. When I click down again, it stays at 8mb, ok, too. 12.52.49 # BUT! when i click now UP, he goes to 7MB, 6.5.4.3.2.1.0.-1.-2 .... !!! 12.53.36 # Rob: then you are right the disk is f*cked up 12.54.04 # The firmware of the disc, right? 12.54.19 # Though Rob: Are you sure that the iriver firmware can't quick format the 60gb disk? 12.54.40 # yes, i tried 12.54.54 # and i read in board that there comes "cant format" 12.55.01 # ah , okay then 12.55.26 # But I remember that I formatted my 60gb disk that way 12.55.41 # (Default firmware and quick format) 12.55.47 # hmm, i dont know. maybe it works with a new FW 12.56.18 # so you've tried a quick format with iriver fw on a good 60gb disk too? 12.56.52 # Oh man, I didnt want to say, that her H340 and the disc is defect. Even more, she contacted me over ebay, as I sold my H340 with 60GB disc, and I didnt know her personally. :( 12.57.05 # XavierGr: No, didnt tried that. 12.57.51 Quit Rondom ("Ex-Chat") 12.59.42 # Well, OK, if the FW doesnt report the right data to partition the drive, but I can read/write all sectors, couldnt I just copy a partition table to the disc and see if it works in the iriver? 13.01.33 # you can try 13.01.42 # delete the mbr and copy a new one 13.02.02 # but who knows what will happen. 13.03.53 # which sectors i have to copy? do you know? 13.04.31 # no I am not sure 13.05.11 # rob:I have to go now, but when I come back I can send you my mbr if you still need it. 13.05.42 # then with a utility you can whipe out the old and write the new one 13.06.12 # OK, driveimage gives at least a little error: The physical configuration at disc 2 does not fit with the OS-information. 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I just want to check and see if I'm actually MISSING anything, without overwriting local stuff? 14.02.11 # cvs up -dP 14.02.15 # ah the c 14.02.23 Join tongas [0] (n=c3063b0e@labb.contactor.se) 14.02.23 # what's the -q do? 14.02.35 # quiet 14.02.44 # I think 14.02.54 # -q Cause CVS to be somewhat quiet. 14.02.54 # wonder why someone told me to use that... 14.03.14 # -q hardly makes any differences, cvs always talk too much for my taste... 14.03.42 # Usage: cvs update [-APCdflRp] [-k kopt] [-r rev] [-D date] [-j rev] 14.03.48 # -C Overwrite locally modified files with clean repository copies. 14.04.27 # (gathered from the cvs -H update output) 14.04.39 # i mean "cvs -H update" 14.04.44 # I have an Acrchos FMR question I'm hoping someone can help me with. 14.05.06 # I had a Hitachi 80g in it, pulled it out and put a Samsung 120g in it. 14.05.17 # thanks Bg3r y B4gder ;) 14.05.30 # Now I'm getting ATA -32 panic errors, and it goes to the ata debug screen. 14.05.32 # B4gder maybe we should add something like "Don't ask for asking, just ask" ... 14.05.42 # lol 14.05.50 # can it be, that the text viewer plugin has a problem with files, that start with an empty line? 14.06.07 # rofl 14.06.37 # Dgently: does the drive work elsewhere or in plain usb-mode? 14.06.47 # PaulJam_: its possible, but i dont think that would be the problem if your talking about the refusing to load certain files 14.06.50 # I have a question to ask. Can I ask a question? Besides this one? Er... I mean another one, kinda like this one, but not the same? 14.07.23 # It seems to work in plain USB mode. At least it let me transfer 80gigs back on to it with no problems. 14.07.54 # if i open a textfile that has an empty first line with the viewer in the sim it hangs, and if i remove the first line from the file it works in the sim 14.08.22 # PaulJam_: nasty 14.08.38 # It was a brand new drive, and I was planning on pulling it today for further testing, but I was hoping to get a bit of advice on what a -32 error was first. 14.08.51 # I hate undoing all those solder joints. PITA. 14.08.59 # solder joints? 14.09.06 # the file has CR+LF line endings, if that is important. 14.09.23 # On the FMR you either have to bend the case, or unsolder the motherboard. 14.09.28 # oh 14.09.33 # how awkward 14.09.42 # * B4gder only has a recv1 14.09.52 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-59-163.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) 14.10.08 # overall I like the little bugger. 14.10.13 # (in my Archos stash that is ;-)) 14.10.47 # ah, finally got some time to work with tagcache. redefining the menu entries, allowing tagcache to be loaded in ram without dircache enabled and proper support for deleting entries from the db 14.10.52 # I am going to be looking for a replacement though, fairly soon. Anyone have any advice on something that runs rockbox, takes 2.5" drives, and has a nice color screen? 14.11.07 # Dgently: there is none :-( 14.11.22 # that explains why I can't find one. 14.11.24 # dangit 14.11.47 # Slasheri: that sounds exciting! are you one of the main devs? 14.12.01 # Dgently: then hope for this effort to take off => http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=3978.0 14.12.22 # Slasheri: nice work 14.12.39 # ryran: yes, the creator of the tagcache :) 14.12.56 # Slasheri: did you spot hardeep is working on a host-based tagcache generator 14.12.58 # I want! 14.13.06 # sweet! 14.13.09 # And thanks for all the work, Slasheri. 14.13.19 # Slasheri: u gonna add the patch t rename tagnavi.config so u can safly update without having it overwritten? 14.13.20 # B4gder: yes, i noticed that. Sounds really interesting :) 14.13.30 # brb,afk 14.13.43 # JdGordon: yes, i will. probably doing the commits at next week 14.13.50 # :) 14.14.12 # oooooo mmmmm tagcache updates... can't wait 14.17.06 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-25-216.austin.res.rr.com) 14.17.15 # Slasheri: any chance of a dir browser in the TC browser (or the other way around) in the foreseable future? 14.18.21 # JdGordon: yes, implementing tagcache as a virtual dir has been a planned feature 14.18.40 # but i can't say when that will happen :P 14.18.46 # ok :_ 14.19.01 # that was meant to be a :) stupid keybord 14.19.02 # All you'd *really* need is the ability to set shortcuts to file views (or specific files) in TagNavi.config 14.19.25 # If you should do "Show All files" allfiles.cfg or something, so that choosing it ran that config, you'd be set, wouldn't you? 14.20.48 # not quite... 14.20.49 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@dsl-88-218-17-158.customers.vivodi.gr) 14.21.25 # JdGordon: Howsat? 14.22.00 # Though I guess the virtual directory is a more user friendly method. 14.22.18 # it could be done like that, but there is a bit of work needed... 14.22.27 # anywho, im off to bed, cyaz 14.23.03 # * Paul_The_Nerd is just a fan of extending the capabilities of TagNavi.config, but *not* creating non-existing entries in the filetree. 14.23.23 Part JdGordon 14.23.36 # If a user wants to see the ID3 database, couldn't they just save a config in the root that sets the file view to ID3 database? Which means that really you just need an easy way *back* from TagCache 14.23.46 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.24.04 # Now the menu entries for tagcache are: Initialize now, Update now, Auto update (yes/no), Load to RAM (yes/no) 14.24.23 # Paul_The_Nerd: Hmm, in theory yes 14.24.44 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-20-242.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 14.26.06 # Slasheri: Really I'm just trying to come up with alternatives. While the virtual directory entry is okay, I personally don't like the idea of having directory entries that aren't physically files on the disk. It's possible when the forced update is run, it could create a .cfg in the root with just the line to change the file view, which would also mean that it only shows up after the cache is initialized (though it'd stick arou 14.26.36 # that got truncated 14.27.34 # At what word? 14.29.49 # Paul_The_Nerd: hmm, interesting. Or then we could just implement some static shortcut to/from the the tagcache 14.32.27 # I just personally would rather if it shows up in the filetree, it actually be a file is all. :) 14.33.07 # The filetree already confuses iPod users without it becoming a Filetree++ with non-file entries. 14.34.11 # Then again, people can adapt, and a virtual entry would certainly be the easiest for quick navigation both ways. 14.34.26 # how can a file tre confuse? 14.34.29 # tree too 14.36.06 Join chendo [0] (n=chendo@203-206-89-252.dyn.iinet.net.au) 14.37.18 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-83-11.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) 14.39.07 # preglow: Because they go into it expecting a menu, and see either a blank screen, or the automatically present folders that happen to align with menu entries in the iPod software, so they think they're looking at a menu that is completely devoid of options. Having an *actual* menu entry there, sorta, that is very definitely not a folder on the disk, just makes it more awkward. 14.39.12 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.39.26 # That wasn't truncated too, was it? 14.39.34 # indeed 14.39.39 # Where at? 14.39.42 # i didn't think about ipod users not having any files, no 14.40.06 # The iPod_Control folder is hidden, so they just see "Contacts" "Calender" and the other non-hidden folders. 14.40.10 # Which, if they enter are empty 14.40.19 # So the first question is always 'Why aren't there any options in the menus?" 14.40.23 # At least, for the totally clueless 14.40.40 Quit TCK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.41.12 # I'm really not against a virtual folder or anything. I'm just trying to explore alternatives before it's set in stone. 14.42.14 Join mdeboer [0] (n=maarten@mtg62.upf.es) 14.43.46 # doesn't rockbox already have such a virtual folder system? for the devices with a card slot and in the future for usb-otg. 14.44.21 # Yes, but I agree with Paul_The_Nerd that that's different - the MMC card is a real disk with real files... 14.46.03 # Although if the virtual folder is *only* visible while tagcache is initialized, then at least it'll only be there once users are unlikely to be confused by it. 14.46.05 # but the tagcache entrys point to real files 14.46.37 # It's not really an entrypoint to real files. In fact, at the moment the rules are fairly different while you're in TagCache since you can't insert the virtual folders into playlists, etc. 14.47.03 # But I'm also not arguing against a virtual folder - I can't think of anything better. 14.47.14 # Aye, that's about where I stand. :) 14.49.40 # Slasheri: Have you thought about the possibility of specifying directories to include/exclude from tagcache? 14.50.18 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.59.19 Join Hansmaulwurf [0] (n=maerlyn@p50818539.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.00.36 # Paul_The_Nerd: The virtual directory will (1) be made quite obvios and (2) only present if tagcache is initialised 15.01.24 # amiconn: Fair then. :) 15.01.41 # (1) can be done by surrounding it by <> like the multi-volume virtual dirs. While < and > aren't strictly forbidden within a file system, they are disallowed by many OS'es because they usually mean redirection 15.02.53 # echo moo > '' 15.02.55 # :-) 15.04.28 # Hehehe 15.04.48 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@124.60.10.86) 15.08.33 # hi 15.09.42 # http://cafefiles.naver.net/data22/2006/6/6/96/SV3024434.JPG 15.09.49 # iriver D20 inside 15.10.14 # http://cafefiles.naver.net/data21/2006/6/6/60/SV304435.JPG 15.10.27 Join Ribs [0] (n=ribs@riblet.plus.com) 15.10.32 # http://cafefiles.naver.net/data24/2006/6/6/16/SV304437.JPG 15.11.41 # none of those links work. 15.11.51 # They worked for me. 15.11.57 # for me too 15.11.59 # I get 404 errors on all of them 15.12.16 # worked for me 15.12.28 # never mind, a reload fixed it. That was odd. 15.12.32 # Sorry 15.14.04 # Does it see? 15.14.20 # can see it? 15.16.21 # Yes, I can see it. Thanks for posting these. 15.17.18 # Isn't the D20 a dictionary? 15.17.27 # linuxstb: yes, i think there should be a way to exclude folders from both dircache and tagcache 15.17.29 # D20 is dictionary. 15.17.39 # but i am not sure how the ui part should be done for that 15.17.55 # argh, *directories :) 15.18.27 # skip the ui and use a plain config file for that 15.18.55 # I agree - at least to start with. Let someone else write the UI. 15.19.03 # ok, that sounds good enough :) 15.19.05 # Just /.rockbox/exclude/dircache.ex and tagcache.ex or something 15.19.13 # UI? 15.19.17 # Or full .cfg file support 15.19.19 # That could be okay too 15.19.21 # Jungti1234: user interface 15.19.27 # Isn't Rockbox's UI simple? 15.19.32 # Slasheir: I know 15.20.06 # Jungti1234: yes, but how one would implement selecting directories to be included/excluded from various databases 15.20.44 # Can it be, that the last sector of a HD is important? That 60GB drive seems to have a bad last sector. 15.20.46 # You *could* just make it a context menu choice. 15.20.54 # difficult is to speak about Rockbox UI.... 15.20.56 Quit bluebrother^ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 15.20.58 # Click and hold on a folder, and choose "Exclude from TagCache" 15.21.12 # And it adds it to a nice little list hidden somewhere 15.22.05 # Paul_The_Nerd: hmm, sounds good :) but i will do just the config file support first 15.22.06 Join bluebrother^ [0] (n=dom@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 15.22.20 # Why should I want to exclude dirs from the caches (if I use them)? 15.22.59 # When SID support is added, I don't want the 32,000 file HVSC collection in tagcache. 15.23.01 # amiconn: Audiobooks/Podcasts not showing up in "All Music" lists when attempting to shuffle everything you've got by way of TagCache 15.23.19 # Yes, HVSC in TagCache is painful 15.24.32 # Another example is that I also have my main music collection nicely tagged, but also a collection of live bootlegs which are not. I would prefer to browse the bootlegs via the file browser, and the studio music via tagcache. I'm sure others have got directories of untagged music they would like to exclude. 15.25.16 # Recordings. 15.26.59 # definitely agree on that point 15.32.23 # Ah, hmm. 15.32.50 # That makes sense for tagcache then (I don't have any audiobooks or podcasts) 15.33.33 # But why exclude dirs from dircache? Sounds like adding a lot of complexity for little benefit 15.34.21 # (dirs excluded from dircache then need to be accessed the conventional way - and the system has to keep track of these differences) 15.34.26 Join Membrillo [0] (n=sam_kill@CPE-60-228-53-177.nsw.bigpond.net.au) 15.34.31 Part Membrillo 15.35.17 # Note that my view is that of a non-dirchache user 15.36.20 # * amiconn observes that the more he deals with the newer units, he more and more prefers using the archoses 15.36.23 # * Paul_The_Nerd sees no reason to exclude dirs from dircache either. 15.36.40 # does dircache saves all dirs or only the ones with music in? 15.36.45 # All dirs 15.36.51 # hm 15.37.42 # iow, dircache is a true cache 15.37.59 # caching directory contents 15.38.18 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-6-205.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 15.38.31 # well I have a dir with 4GB for my university work, with a lot of sub-dirs, I dont need this Dirs in tagcache 15.39.19 # TagCache is different than DirCache entirely 15.39.25 # erm 15.39.25 # sorry 15.39.32 # i mean dircache 15.40.36 # I suppose it'll keep the dircache itself slightly smaller. 15.41.07 # but add complexity to the code I guess 15.41.17 # since it'll be a mixed situation 15.41.34 # * B4gder is guessing 15.42.02 # Probably, yes 15.42.24 Quit muesli|delhi ("ich will Kühe!!!") 15.45.37 # On a somewhat related note, I have an Archos FMR with an 80gig drive in it. I tried initializing dircache once. It ran for a good long while (20-40min, I'm not exactly sure) and then locked up. No big deal, just thought you might want to know. 15.45.49 # I figured I had too much crap on the drive for it. 15.46.44 # excluding dirs would've been handy for me, I have a .progs dir full of data that wouldn't need to be cached. 15.46.46 # Dircache is kinda a bad idea on the Archoses anyway isn't it? 15.46.58 # They have fairly limited ram already 15.47.08 # I didn't think it had enough memory to be useful, but I thought I'd play with it a bit. 15.47.11 # Dircache isn't built into the archos builds 15.47.19 # hmmmm. 15.47.31 # I ran some kind of cache initialization. 15.47.33 # Tagcache is a different thing, and is available on archos 15.47.38 # thought it was dircache. 15.47.46 # Oh! my bad then, sorry. 15.47.56 # Ok, so tagcache ran for ... 15.49.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.52.07 Join actionshrimp [0] (n=nn@host86-142-223-227.range86-142.btcentralplus.com) 15.53.09 # (back-reading) for those that use their players as portable hds with lots of non-music, I think it would be dope-a-licious to be able to exclude stuff from dircache 15.53.41 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.53.45 # or perhaps to have an option for it to scan directories for music files and only cache those... 15.53.54 # that would be great 15.54.13 # why? 15.54.17 # but that could still take a lot of time when you could instead just exclude.. 15.54.19 # dircache is not for music only 15.54.33 # it would make no sense at all 15.54.33 # right, but ... 15.54.45 # maybe only for "supported" files 15.54.47 # most people only use their players for music 15.54.47 # imagine a single dir with both music and non-music 15.54.59 # so? 15.55.07 # why would they bother to exclude anything then? 15.55.24 # Even "supported only" causes a problem when you have various extensions for files that you could load in the text editor, or whatnot 15.55.24 # heh 15.55.51 # I think you're crying out for something you can't really motivate why we should offer 15.56.18 # lol.. I just stepped in here. :D I don't really care. 15.56.36 # I think TagCache needs exclusions, DirCache doesn't really 15.56.45 # amen 15.56.59 # I can understand that 15.57.04 # sounds good :) 15.57.07 # I mean, there's a small case for them, but it's _very_ small. :) 15.57.39 # what I'd be curious to know is how much ram it actually takes to store file listings in a cache 15.57.45 # I really have absolutely no idea 15.57.48 # You can check that in the debug menu 15.57.51 # ooooooooooo 15.58.20 # sweeeetbajeebus! 15.58.22 # cool 15.59.03 # Hehehe 15.59.08 # Debug menu is useful stuff. ;) 15.59.11 # Now, I must go 15.59.11 Part Paul_The_Nerd 15.59.17 # B4gder the reasons in my eyes are that if you have some folders with a lots of small files (like pictures etc, programs, documents, code etc etc) and they are included in the dircache, then 1) they will took not so little RAM for the cache 2) the startup time will be worse 15.59.30 # :'( 16.00.35 # question: how is dircache limit determined? by platform or by available ram? 16.01.27 Join apo [0] (n=r00t@dslb-088-065-068-093.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.01.37 # ryran first time you boot the player with dircache enabled, rb does a blocking scan of the disk 16.01.44 Quit apo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.01.49 # and allocates as much memory as it needs 16.01.52 Join apo [0] (n=r00t@dslb-088-065-068-093.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.02.00 # aHH 16.02.07 # + 64kb for new files 16.02.12 # Moin 16.02.17 # I knew TagCache now!! 16.02.28 # that's from mp3 buffer 16.02.38 # uhmmm 16.02.39 # It wasn't easy..... :) 16.02.54 # so the dircache size depends entirely on your directory structure and the count of the files on your player 16.03.08 # thanks Bg3r, but I actually meant the *limit* 16.03.17 # hm 16.03.26 # it says my limit is 6mb 16.03.48 # whereas I'm only using 282,244b 16.04.32 # I was curious if that was an limit determined by the ram.. or if it's an absolute specified in source per each platform 16.04.46 # (I'm thinking about ipod 64mb vs 32mb ram here) 16.05.09 # hehehe 16.05.13 # I don't need all file. 16.05.59 # ./include/dircache.h:#define DIRCACHE_LIMIT (1024*1024*6) 16.06.14 # it's hardcoded in firmware/include/dircache.h 16.06.24 Quit roland ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 16.06.26 # haha you're the man 16.06.38 # find & grep are the men :P 16.06.46 # I was wondering :D 16.06.53 # Good men they are 16.07.02 # yep 16.07.11 # ryran but 6MB is _a_lot_ of files ... 16.07.39 # maybe 10 000 are ~ 800k 16.07.55 # yeah.. I can see that.. given that I'm only using uhhh a quarter of a meg 16.08.15 Quit mantono (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.08.20 # so all targets have at least 6mb of ram? 16.08.34 # ohhhhhhhhhhhhh wait wait I know 16.08.35 # no 16.08.42 # some targets just don't include the dircache code 16.08.50 # correctomente 16.09.23 # hmm. I'm absolutely loving dircache--on a hd-based player, I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't want to use it. 16.09.35 # I don't 16.09.39 # whoa 16.09.41 # why? 16.10.05 # because 99.95% of my time, rockbox plays a playlist 16.10.54 # power on, resume play, listen, power down 16.11.02 # goto 10 16.11.07 # LOL 16.11.07 # but.. what am I missing here.... if dircache only uses a mb or so of ram for most people..... how could freeing that up for playbuffer help any? that's like.. miniscule 16.11.09 # lol 16.11.30 # I just don't see any point in enabling it 16.11.30 # ryran 16.11.37 # yes? 16.11.57 # the reason imho is more the point 2) of the things i said some minutes ago 16.12.10 Join mantono [0] (n=anton@c83-250-204-173.bredband.comhem.se) 16.12.10 # yeps 16.12.12 # that is, lesser scan 16.12.16 # time 16.12.24 # also 16.12.42 # you can easily have thousand of files with sizes, comparable with 50 - 100kbytes 16.12.59 # ah 16.13.21 # (for example, i have many funny pics on my h340) 16.13.48 # * Bg3r goes to run the stats plugin 16.14.28 # I don't know about the average person, but if I used my player more as a portable hard drive, it would be organized into folders. point being, that I would keep stuff like that seperate--all the more reason to have the dircache exclusion option. *g* 16.14.42 # ryran exactly 16.14.56 # i have a D folder in the root (D stands for Data) 16.15.00 # okay 16.15.01 # i have 16.15.05 # 1024 dirs 16.15.13 # 4974 music files 16.15.24 # and total 11251 files 16.15.35 # whew 16.16.03 # and if i had the opportunity to exclude the D folder ... 16.20.54 # (16:13:21) (Bg3r) (for example, i have many funny pics on my h340) <--- funny pics, I understand ;) 16.21.16 # bye 16.21.17 Quit Jungti1234 () 16.21.28 # Hansmaulwurf: Yeah, they make happy :P 16.22.51 # Sorry to butt in, but would anyone know where some hi-res pics of the FMR motherboard might be? I've poked in the wiki, tried the external links (btw,Matthias Wächter's site is gone - and he was my best hope), and can't find what I need. 16.23.00 # hahaha 16.23.18 # i can't get it why everyone thinks funny pics = porn ... 16.23.29 # haha 16.24.31 # I didnt say "porn" but you did! 16.24.41 # :P 16.24.44 # oh, okay 16.28.54 # Hansmaulwurf stuff like this : http://www.cs.technion.ac.il/~joni/comp-tech.jpg is what i call funny pics 16.28.55 # :P 16.29.01 Quit TeaSea (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.31.06 # and this http://www.anvari.org/shortjoke/EmailJoke_Set_4/2449.html :D 16.31.40 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-17-161.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 16.37.15 # haha... you're funny 16.37.26 # er, I mean *that's* funny ;P 16.38.18 # :P 16.38.39 # yeah, the last one isn't pic, but i have it as .jpg 16.38.44 # hahaha (just read the second one) 16.39.58 # http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryran/151315044/ <-- another example of a funny pic 16.40.40 # http://despair.com/consulting.html 16.41.13 # lol 16.41.26 Join thoughts_ [0] (n=thoughts@62.101.50.98) 16.41.28 Quit thoughts_ (Client Quit) 16.41.41 # despair.com is da place for good posters 16.41.45 # for your office 16.41.46 Join TeaSea [0] (n=Thunderc@lonsdale.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 16.46.35 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.46.53 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-137-071.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.48.13 Join hardeep [0] (n=hardeep@c-71-202-85-199.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 16.51.06 # (just spent all that time reading posters) I'm kinda torn about those. 16.51.18 # yeah, many of them are funny, but.... 16.51.43 # in the end, I don't think that they'd pring a positive net effect to anyone's life 16.51.55 # you don't? 16.51.56 # haha 16.52.10 # that's why they're called demotivators 16.53.28 # right.. well I kinda thought the point was that they're funny 16.54.18 # except that I think many of them actually really will live up to their name and bring people down, which--well, I can't imagine why anyone would really want that 16.54.34 # I just love them 16.56.00 Quit Mushroom () 16.56.12 # some of them are great for meeting-rooms 16.56.41 Quit B4gder ("time to say moo") 17.01.52 Join ceaser [0] (n=ceaser@138.28.36.190) 17.02.08 Quit tongas ("CGI:IRC") 17.03.41 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-25-216.austin.res.rr.com) 17.04.30 # nice talking to everyone..peace 17.04.35 Quit ryran ("hasta la pasta!") 17.04.42 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-9-194.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 17.17.24 Quit anti33t (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.18.41 Quit XavierGr ("One firmware to rule them all!") 17.19.22 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.33.35 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 17.38.44 Quit dpro (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.42.48 Part Paul_The_Nerd 17.46.18 Join bluebrother_ [0] (i=snK81dov@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 17.46.39 Quit bluebrother^ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17.47.40 Join drippydonut [0] (n=drippydo@ACD12107.ipt.aol.com) 17.49.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.53.58 Quit Sinbios (Connection timed out) 17.54.02 Join Sinbios [0] (n=Sinbios@toronto-HSE-ppp4069593.sympatico.ca) 17.56.21 Join einhirn [0] (i=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 17.59.23 Quit akaidiot ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 18.04.59 # hardeep: How is building tagcache externally supposed to work? 18.05.09 # Specifically, how does it deal with endianess? 18.12.18 Nick bluebrother_ is now known as bluebrother (i=snK81dov@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 18.14.58 Quit PaulJam_ (".") 18.15.08 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp154-198.adsl.forthnet.gr) 18.20.09 Join akaidiot [0] (n=not@84-217-85-175.tn.glocalnet.net) 18.20.10 Quit Ribs (Remote closed the connection) 18.20.34 # amiconn: i've added a "littleendian" argument 18.20.45 # amiconn: default works with iRiver 18.21.08 Join Ribs [0] (n=ribs@riblet.plus.com) 18.21.48 # Does it also handle differing alignment requirements per target? Or does the tagcache code align for all targets now? 18.22.03 # i've set it up to always align 18.22.10 # ok 18.22.10 # i think tagcache does the same 18.22.39 # What about supporting other music formats? Is that going to be difficult? 18.23.09 # probably not too hard, will just need to port our parsing code to perl 18.23.34 # Hmm, or perhaps make the offline tagcache builder a program? 18.23.39 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=5343d4aa@labb.contactor.se) 18.23.42 # It would remove the need to install perl 18.23.57 # yeah, that's a possibility too 18.23.58 # ...where it's not installed by default, i.e. windows 18.24.21 # perl just makes it easy to manipulate strings =) 18.24.45 # Hmm, in fact someone already started a tagdb builder in C 18.24.46 # But doesn't Rockbox already contain all the necessary C code? 18.24.59 # (probably the old format, not tagcache) 18.25.04 # Chech apps/tagdb/ 18.25.07 # *Check 18.25.08 # i've seen a java version, not c 18.25.58 # linuxstb: Almost. The offline tool needs to handle endianess 18.26.59 Quit hardeep (Remote closed the connection) 18.27.49 Join hardeep [0] (n=hardeep@c-71-202-85-199.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 18.27.57 # oops 18.37.21 # hmmm, this tagdb implementation looks more complex than it needs to be 18.38.11 Quit bluebrother (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 18.38.25 # although that may be due to the old tagdb structure... tagcache is nice and simple 18.39.33 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-25-216.austin.res.rr.com) 18.40.05 Join bluebrother [0] (i=BuRV7yDu@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 18.42.13 Quit slimx ("Leaving") 18.43.31 Part Paul_The_Nerd 18.44.01 Quit hardeep ("Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]") 18.46.09 Join San [0] (n=San@A-112-152.cust.iol.ie) 18.57.13 Quit XavierGr ("One firmware to rule them all!") 19.02.06 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 19.03.31 Join RedBreva [0] (n=chatzill@host217-42-183-128.range217-42.btcentralplus.com) 19.05.55 Quit Sanitarium (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.07.50 Quit JoeBorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.08.02 Join Zweiundvierzig [0] (n=r00t@dslb-088-065-074-076.pools.arcor-ip.net) 19.11.17 Join Sanitarium [0] (n=San@A-112-152.cust.iol.ie) 19.11.17 Quit San (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.12.11 Join ryran [0] (n=ryran@rrcs-70-60-124-144.midsouth.biz.rr.com) 19.12.12 # woot 19.13.25 # questionay for anyone: how come battery capacity is configurable in system settings in rockbox? is it set to a certain default for each target? 19.18.23 # For most targets, users can change the factory batteries for ones with a higher capacity. 19.20.44 # but there's not just a global default, right? as in, the source specifies the proper defaults for different targets? what happens if you change the setting... with the normal batteries? 19.22.16 # Yes, the source specifies different sets of values for different targets. But I think it's only used to display a runtime estimation, nothing else. 19.22.49 # Also, it's not implemented fully for all targets - the ipods for example. 19.24.04 # "only to display runtime estimation" -- ohhhh okay. that's what I was wondering about. 19.25.57 # So basically, it's not important. 19.25.58 Quit apo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.27.28 Join hardeep [0] (i=hardeeps@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG) 19.27.56 # yeah.. I just now noticed that you could actually change it and that got me wondering what it actually did (I'd always assumed it was just something that should've been in debug) 19.28.10 # cool. thanks linuxstb 19.29.26 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 19.36.15 Quit idnar (Nick collision from services.) 19.36.19 Join idnar_ [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 19.44.40 Join redondos [0] (n=redondos@190.48.1.141) 19.45.09 # Hello. Is there some way to have the lyrics of the songs available in rockbox? 19.45.26 # Preferrably something more automated than having a bunch of textfiles. 19.46.52 # H300 user here? 19.48.36 # no one? 19.49.14 # damn 19.49.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.49.46 # redondos: The official Rockbox version doesn't have any lyrics support, but someone has developed a plugin for lyrics - there's a long thread about it in the forums. 19.51.57 # linuxstb: Thank you. 19.56.55 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3132.gwdg.de) 19.57.44 # PaulJam: do you use the same nick on MisticRiver? 19.57.53 # yes 19.58.33 # any chance you could send me one of the files that caused problems with the scrobbler patch? 19.59.10 # yes 20.03.41 # Has any of you used sncviewer? 20.05.13 # obo: how should i send it to you? email? 20.07.21 Join Daishi [0] (n=daishi@ool-45703854.dyn.optonline.net) 20.13.09 # PaulJam: did you get my pm? 20.13.43 # yes, i just saw it, im sending the mail soon. 20.13.57 # thanks 20.16.27 # mail is sent. 20.17.44 # okay, it's arrived - I'll see what I can do :) 20.21.34 Quit Hansmaulwurf ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 20.24.57 Quit Daishi (Remote closed the connection) 20.33.40 Nick idnar_ is now known as idnar (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 20.37.27 Join bam_ [0] (n=bam@pool-71-108-99-77.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 20.38.12 # Does anybody know a hard disc surface test tool that runs under windows? 20.39.10 Join dionoea [0] (n=dionoea@poy.chewa.net) 20.39.18 # Rob2222: scandisk 20.41.55 # Rob2222, chkdsk /f in a cmd window is also helpful in some cases. 20.46.07 # Rob2222: spinrite http://www.grc.com/sr/spinrite.htm 20.47.37 # (there's no free demo though) 20.48.07 Join smably_ [0] (n=smably@CPE00045ad69b08-CM0012c9a07828.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 20.49.51 Quit smably (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.53.00 Quit ryran ("hasta la pasta!") 20.55.34 # Rob2222: if you suspect you have bad sectors, it's by far the best to get disk test from your manufacturer, since it can relocate bad sectors 20.55.39 # thx, but scandisc and chkdsk wont work cause i cant format thr drive 20.56.28 # Rob2222: what disk do you have? 21.00.06 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 21.00.39 # 60gb toshiba 21.00.43 # in iriver H340 21.00.59 # toshiba has no test util 21.01.19 # uhh, that's a problem 21.02.32 # Even more that most dos tools have problems to recognize the USB drives. 21.02.47 # got any linux box? 21.04.43 # I think the drive fitness test of Hitachi should work as well. At least for testing. 21.05.55 # have suse 10 on laptop ... but .. nor yet learned how to work with it 21.06.51 # bluebrother: it will report problems, but doesn't allow low-level format or bad sector reallocation 21.08.37 # I know it doesn't do everything, but maybe this is already helpful 21.08.38 # Rob2222: boot to SuSE and connect your H340 21.08.50 # for a linux box: try knoppix :) 21.09.49 # after you do that, open console and type dmesg, it should tell you if it recognised the HDD 21.12.23 Part Dgently 21.12.54 # ok ender 21.13.16 # (or actually, open the console before you connect the player) 21.13.26 # (but type dmesg after you do it) 21.14.36 # also, have both the player and laptop connected to mains, since this procedure will take a while 21.16.10 # hmm, my suse seems not to boot, give me a second 21.17.10 # no problem 21.18.23 Quit bluebrother ("Leaving") 21.20.38 # do you think suse 10 will recognize a adaptec usb 2.0 pcmcia controller? 21.21.01 # just try it 21.21.21 # if dmesg tells you just nothing it was not detected by linux ;-) 21.21.56 # dmesg says damn much 21.22.07 # just read the last 10 linux 21.22.28 # if its anyhthing about usb, sda, or harddisk 21.22.33 # rofl 21.22.40 # just read the last 10 LINES! 21.22.45 # lol 21.22.46 # :) 21.23.03 # i insart the adaptec card now 21.23.15 # 60gb hd scan isnt fun witn usb 1.1 i think 21.23.21 # hehe nope 21.23.38 # what do i have to do after inserting the pcmcia? 21.23.45 # do dmesg again 21.23.53 # and see if there are any new lines now 21.23.53 # ah 21.23.57 # usb hub found 21.24.00 # nice 21.24.03 # ... :) 21.24.04 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=stephan@dslb-084-056-107-179.pools.arcor-ip.net) 21.24.04 # plug & play 21.24.09 # now the player? 21.24.13 # jep 21.24.14 # yes 21.24.50 # and in dmesg look for the device name that got assigned (should be sda, could be sdb, sdc etc) 21.25.06 # sdb 21.25.33 # yes, its sdb 21.25.50 # ok, so your device is /dev/sdb 21.25.50 # as scsi device. mk6006gah 21.25.55 # ok 21.25.56 # ok, now run this: badblocks -n /dev/sdb 21.26.18 # if you're lucky, this'll cause the disk to relocate the bad sectors 21.26.54 # (and you should be able to reformat the disk afterwards) 21.26.55 # command not found ;) 21.27.04 # hm 21.27.04 # i have to install, right? 21.27.08 # install e2fsprogs 21.27.15 # (it's part of them) 21.27.30 # (at least on gentoo, but i'd imagine it's the same on suse) 21.28.53 # Rob2222: are you logged in as "root"? 21.29.15 # good question *duck* 21.29.28 Quit actionshrimp ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.01 :: www.XLhost.de )") 21.29.28 # cause its most likely in /sbin or the like, and you need root access anyways for direct harddisk access :) 21.29.36 # oh, forgot to mention that 21.29.57 # according YAST it is installed. 21.30.11 # you need to be root to find it in your path... 21.30.19 # just log in as root (or, in console, type su -) 21.30.57 # ok works 21.31.32 # now just wait and hope 21.31.39 # * Nibbler crosses fingers :) 21.31.44 # * ender` wishes somebody ported smartmontools to rockbox :) 21.31.52 # does it gives me information, when a block has errors? 21.32.16 # you should use -v for that maybe 21.32.21 # yes 21.33.17 # ok, "badblocks -c -n /dev/sdb" is now running 21.33.33 # you mean -v -n ? 21.33.39 # -c+v i mean 21.33.45 # -v -n 21.35.31 # well, i am positive surprised of the P&P of suse :) 21.36.09 # P&P? 21.36.36 # Rob2222: its linux, not suse 21.37.00 # ...in this case 21.37.34 # * ender` starts unpacking his new laptop 21.38.38 # hello 21.40.03 # hello dionoea 21.43.01 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 21.43.23 Quit RedBreva ("Time for Tubby ByeBye") 21.44.26 Quit bam_ (Remote closed the connection) 21.46.59 # plug&play 21.47.29 # i just installed it for testing and leraning 21.47.44 # but didtn got the orinoco mini-pci to work with wpa 21.47.50 # fine, now you had a good use for it at least :) 21.47.56 # yes 21.48.29 # no idea about wireless, but keep hearing you have to be selective when buying wlan for linux 21.49.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.53.20 # what is the output of badblocks? 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A restart corrected it. Is this technically possible? 23.40.53 # obo: good, thanks. 23.40.54 Quit lodesi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.42.00 # Febs: on the ipod, probably 23.42.07 # the ipod port isn't very mature right now 23.42.30 # Febs: it sounds unlikely... 23.43.42 # Bagder: I thought so too when I noticed it once a few weeks ago. But it seems to have happened again today. 23.44.07 # Either that or I am imagining things and I need a vacation. 23.47.02 # Huh. My company's web filter blocks "emusic.com," but not "http://www.emusic.com" 23.47.18 # * Febs is really beginning to think that vacation is not such a bad idea. 23.47.42 # lol 23.47.42 # our school's web filter blocked ".exe" 23.47.49 # but, like, anywhere in the URL 23.47.54 # so http://www.exercise.com/ was blocked 23.47.57 # lol 23.48.00 # lame 23.49.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.52.05 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp139-60.adsl.forthnet.gr) 23.53.11 Join rotator [0] (n=e@rockbox/developer/rotator) 23.53.37 Join jimmy13632 [0] (n=183b1563@labb.contactor.se) 23.54.12 # hey is there any development for the san disk e200 series? 23.54.21 # no 23.54.30 # http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox-sandisk-connection.html 23.55.09 # Bagder: any chance Sansa will help you out 23.55.12 # is there going to be any development, or has anyone started to test and create software? 23.55.29 # From their point all they did was to donate some devices 23.55.30 # jimmy13632: did you read the page? 23.55.40 # I expect more from a company 23.56.14 # I mean SanDisk 23.56.38 Quit Kohlrabi (Nick collision from services.) 23.56.46 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-128-117.pools.arcor-ip.net) 23.56.59 # XavierGr: I'm trying to get more help from them but it seems hard 23.57.13 # okay, so there is development starting they just need more help 23.57.28 # to get the ball rolling 23.57.32 # "development" is not the right word here 23.57.39 # testing? 23.57.47 # but there's an effort going on to attempt to figure out the file formats 23.58.25 Quit ender` (" "I want an Internet. 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