--- Log for 29.06.106 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 3 days and 16 hours ago 00.00.00 Quit _FireFly_ ("Client exiting") 00.00.43 Quit Rondom (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.01.33 # I heard SanDisk approached asking about the possibility of porting the firmware to the sansa e200 series 00.01.58 # *READ* 00.02.09 # i did... 00.02.14 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@mrbg-d9b953ea.pool.mediaWays.net) 00.02.19 # >_> 00.02.39 # but i can't seam to find if they have contacted you anymore than that? 00.02.44 # seem* 00.03.04 # "I responded and we exchanged a few mails about what we want and a little about what Rockbox is and how Rockbox is developed" 00.03.43 # have the sent you any developer information such as maybe schematics? 00.03.51 # *READ* 00.04.54 # it's all there 00.05.43 # it's funny, my monitor has a resolution of 320x240 now... 00.06.02 # how oldschool of it 00.08.40 Join user01 [0] (n=a@c-71-205-200-88.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 00.08.56 # yes. it is very, very, old-school. 00.09.17 Join dj-fu [0] (n=deejay@202-169-220-34.worldnet.co.nz) 00.09.24 # can someone help me troubleshoot? i installed the most recent version of rockbox for 4g bw and transfers to ipod crash when i try to move files 00.12.17 # did you install it correctly 00.12.20 # and daily build or cvs build? 00.12.26 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.13.22 # cvs build 00.13.36 # rockbox works 00.13.44 # and the apple build works 00.14.00 # transferring files as a flash disk dosen,t 00.14.15 # it says do not disconnect 00.14.22 # then says ok to disconnect 00.14.25 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACD0F027.ipt.aol.com) 00.15.17 Quit Criamos ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 00.15.27 # pass 00.15.33 # dj-fu: firewire worked in the beginning now doesnt, usb freezes 00.15.33 # I don't have a 4g bw so I can't test it soz 00.15.38 # my nano works sweet cvs 00.16.13 # user01: What do you mean by "transferring files as a flash disk"? 00.16.50 # probably disk mode 00.17.00 # Febs: pluging in the ipod and the computer seeing it as a disk drive like a flash drive 00.17.08 # how else are you doing it rofl? 00.17.11 # :\ 00.17.17 # trying to use itunes or something? 00.17.28 # dj-fu: nope dont have itunes installed 00.17.32 # then what? 00.17.40 # dj-fu: though the manual states to use itunes 00.17.58 # no it doesn't. 00.18.00 # The Rockbox Manual certainly doesn't say that. 00.18.07 # that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen 00.18.13 # heard/seen rather 00.18.46 # "ensure that iTunes is set up to allow you to access your ipod as a disk" 00.18.53 # user01: when you plug in the iPod via USB, is it assigned a drive letter? 00.18.54 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation 00.18.54 # <^BeN^> someone have a free pdf to word converter? 00.19.28 Nick ^BeN^ is now known as Paprica (i=Paprica@89-138-32-152.bb.netvision.net.il) 00.19.43 # OK, *using* iTunes is different from telling iTunes not to screw with your ability to access the ipod as a disk. 00.19.51 # dj-fu: what are you saying about disk mode? 00.20.00 # ipod have a disk mode 00.20.24 # dj-fu: so what would i do if that is the problem? 00.21.24 # you should only ever transfer music to rockbox as "as a flash disk" 00.21.32 # that's how it's done. 00.21.37 # that's half the point 00.22.01 # dj-fu: when i connect it automatically goes to the apple firmware 00.22.03 Join sharpe` [0] (i=sharpe@user-0c8hc2c.cable.mindspring.com) 00.22.09 # it's not designed to 00.22.16 # it only boots the apple firmware if you hold menu 00.22.52 # when im in rockbox and connect the ipod via usb it boots into apple firmwaer 00.23.05 # no it doesn't ;\ 00.23.10 # user01: you mean disk mode. 00.23.16 # it loads the rockbox disk transfer 00.23.31 # afaik 00.23.33 # the apple logo comes on the screen 00.23.39 # nothing to do with apple apart from the logo 00.23.56 Quit sharpe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.24.01 # ok connect it apple logo and then apple message ok to disconnect 00.24.01 Nick sharpe` is now known as sharpe (i=sharpe@user-0c8hc2c.cable.mindspring.com) 00.24.29 # NO 00.24.30 # NO APPLE 00.24.33 # I'm going to kill you. 00.25.08 # dj-fu: rockbox has no usb mode on ipods, it (re)boots into apples disk mode 00.25.14 # oh 00.25.16 # there ya go then 00.25.21 # no wonder it's a little slower ;P 00.25.30 Quit Rondom ("Ex-Chat") 00.25.40 # dj-fu: wondered when rockbox adapted the apple logo :) 00.25.47 # user01: does the message say "OK to disconnect" or "Do not disconnect"? 00.25.54 # ok to disconnect 00.26.10 # Febs: the opposite of what it should 00.26.23 # Try a different USB port. 00.26.57 # and be sure itunes isn't running... 00.27.29 # i dont have itunes installed 00.27.35 # that's helpful 00.27.56 Join Daishi [0] (n=daishi@ool-45703854.dyn.optonline.net) 00.28.00 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=jborn@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 00.29.23 # user01: ok so i went to a different usb port it says do not diconnect, im transferring an ogg file and it says the path is too deep 00.29.58 # trasferring it to g:\lossy\ 00.30.03 # which is ipod 00.30.12 # from what path? 00.30.24 # desktop 00.30.30 # ... 00.30.47 Quit jimmy13632 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.30.57 # can you be... a little more specific? like an actual path? 00.31.27 # That's an actual windows error message "Cannot transfer file: path too deep" or something like that. 00.31.44 # * Bagder checks character frequencies on mi4 files and gets depressed 00.31.48 # sharp: standard windoze xp path C:\Documents and Settings\user\Desktop 00.32.55 # I Googled that message fairly extensively about a week ago to try to help someone with a similar problem and didn't come up with anything particularly helpful. 00.33.05 Quit Sanitarium () 00.33.41 # Febs: i had intially tried to transfer from my samba server and that wasnt working so i tried copying one file from desktop 00.33.48 # im sure samba is much deeper 00.36.14 # Bagder: Nothing helpful from sandisk yet then? 00.36.21 # nope 00.36.42 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@82.193.235.34) 00.38.01 # Bagder: any more boot loaders ? 00.38.05 # yeah 00.38.17 # hm, no sorry 00.38.22 # just one more mi4 00.38.24 # with big header 00.38.25 # :/ 00.38.40 # febs: when i try to copy from samba it states cannot find specified folder 00.38.55 Join TCK [0] (i=TCK@85-210-88-99.dsl.pipex.com) 00.39.05 # when i drag and drop 00.39.29 # I need to read up on cryptoanalysis 00.39.31 # Febs: I've just done a quick google, and I believe this answer: "path too deep = generic hardware failure message." 00.39.47 # i.e. it's Windows being unhelpful with its error messages 00.39.49 # hooray for being generic! 00.40.04 # How nice of Microsoft to be specific. 00.40.18 # had "path too deep" once on a old nt4 box, turned out to be a bad network card 00.40.31 # I just read someone say the issue was his IDE cable... 00.41.32 Join Gibbed [0] (i=rick@pool-71-108-2-183.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 00.41.34 Quit Rick (Nick collision from services.) 00.41.38 # linuxstb: IDE cable on local computer? 00.41.46 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-71-108-2-183.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 00.41.50 # Sorry, user01, I don't have anything else that I can suggest, other than possibly trying a different iPod cable or maybe reformatting the iPod and reinstalling. 00.42.24 # febs: yeah this time ill try transferring music before installing ipod 00.42.26 # user01: Yes, that was the problem I read here: http://codebetter.com/blogs/sahil.malik/archive/2004/08/30/23742.aspx 00.42.55 # linuxstb: thats strange its a sata drive there isnt an ide cable 00.43.36 # user01: the point is that the "path too deep" error was because of a cable 00.44.55 # ghah, shit 00.45.02 # i've gotta get a job as a gardner or something 00.45.18 # * linuxstb needs a gardener... 00.45.20 # preglow: my lawn needs mowing 00.45.29 # I offered first... 00.45.33 # darn 00.45.36 # i just mowed my lawn... 00.45.42 # haha 00.45.43 # ugh 00.45.45 # i can mow lawns, sure 00.45.55 # my skills with the other elements of a garden is yet untested 00.46.01 # but i can try, right! 00.46.22 # preglow: my trimmer is broken...you can come by and do that part for me at least 00.46.35 # what, trim with no trimmer? :> 00.46.46 # i have scissors! 00.46.47 # i think maybe there is a disk error 00.47.13 # is there away to reformat ipod manually without running program? 00.47.18 # maybe a gardener/baker combo 00.47.24 Quit Rob2222 () 00.47.50 # hmmm...i am craving for some really good sweet rolls 00.47.55 Quit mikearthur (Remote closed the connection) 00.48.03 # i'm leet at baking rolls and bread 00.48.05 Join SanForVendetta [0] (n=San@A-112-152.cust.iol.ie) 00.48.09 # now let's discuss my salary 00.48.20 # find a job as a baker... :D 00.48.25 # tried running apple firmware to reset ipod and it stated firmware update failure disk write error. 00.48.27 # * Febs suspects preglow's salary can be paid in beer. 00.48.28 # the hours are hell 00.48.36 # Febs: beer and a bed :> 00.48.48 # preglow: i can provide that! 00.49.13 # what about transportation? 00.49.50 Quit Febs ("Time to go home!") 00.50.08 # pft, i'll walk 00.50.29 # is there anything in rockbox to reformat ipod? 00.50.38 # user01: no 00.50.40 # user01: no. 00.51.24 # No, but the firmware isn't written to the FAT32 partition - it's written before that on the disk. So it sounds like you have more serious problems. 00.51.42 # dramatic music 00.51.58 # sharpe: so how do i resolve these problems? 00.52.48 # sharpe: there is nothing on it of value i just got it :p 00.52.56 # which problems? 00.53.01 # just formatting? 00.53.12 # sharpe: formatting and starting all over 00.53.32 # well, you could just use the ipod updater's restore function... 00.54.09 # which i just tried and didnt work... 00.54.23 # it just freezes 00.54.37 # You said you've tried both firewire and USB? 00.54.47 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACD0F027.ipt.aol.com) 00.55.08 # firewire doesnt work anymore usb sometimes does sometimes doesnt 00.55.11 # mostly doesnt 00.55.54 # So that mostly rules out your cables and USB/firewire ports being the issue. Which just leaves the ipod... 00.56.14 # heheh... 00.56.23 Quit obo ("bye") 00.56.28 # if it's a hardware problem, there's not much to do apart from cry... 00.56.39 # wimper 00.56.43 # sob 00.56.43 # iPods are unrealiable 00.56.52 # * Ribs got a extended warrenty with his 00.56.55 # weep, also... 00.57.08 # applecare... 00.57.16 # user01: Do you have a warranty? 00.57.32 # linuxstb: just bought it through apple refurbished 00.57.44 # 1 yr limited warranty 00.57.54 # only had it a day 00.58.04 # Does the Rockbox bootloader still show up when you boot? 00.58.09 # yep 00.58.13 # ouch 00.58.21 # linuxstb: can i erase that? 00.58.31 # for warranty issues? 00.58.43 # You can try using ipodpatcher.exe to rewrite your original bootpartition.bin - if you kept it. 00.59.16 # if it was in the steps i might have... 00.59.25 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.79.44.48.adsl.vby.tiscali.dk) 00.59.50 # The instructions advise you to keep it, and definitely don't say to delete it. 00.59.56 Join dpro [0] (n=x@80-218-23-239.dclient.hispeed.ch) 01.02.41 # oh wait i think the refreshed hosed the filesystem phew! 01.03.13 # www.apple.com/support/ipod ! error messaeg on boot now 01.03.50 # Good :) Now delete the rockbox.ipod and .rockbox folder if you can. 01.04.19 # You'll have to force it into disk mode - reset using MENU+SELECT and then hold PLAY+SELECT 01.04.38 # then empty the garbage can... 01.04.54 # preglow: i already did that today... 01.05.10 # there were some cans and papers in it. 01.05.14 # it just says ok to disconnect 01.05.30 # and disk mode 01.05.40 # and it wasnt connected to anything when i rebooted it 01.06.20 Join esoteric [0] (n=mindless@69.146.35.125) 01.06.26 # heyo 01.06.39 # just installed rockbox for the first time, freaking sweet so far 01.06.43 # thanks :D 01.07.19 Nick merbanan is now known as CommanderInCheif (n=banan@farmer.campus.luth.se) 01.07.47 # cheif? 01.08.09 # i before e except after c 01.08.34 # or when sounded like eh as in neighbor and weigh? 01.08.46 # word says Chief :P 01.10.19 # ch isn't c 01.10.32 # so i have a question, im using rockbox on my 5g ipod and i want to do filetree music listing instead of gay itunes tag database. do I need to delete all the music already on my ipod and just copy the music by hand to the ipod? 01.10.45 # yes 01.11.14 # thought as much 01.11.31 # this is such as sweet program, going to save me hours and hours of tag editing 01.11.35 # you could in theory use the tag info to rename them with some program, but it would probably take longer 01.12.13 # my files are already named right 01.12.14 # and organized 01.12.18 # so this is perfect 01.13.05 # so everything under ipod_control/music delete and just copy like normal? 01.13.50 # If you don't want to use the apple firmware, just delete the entire ipod_control folder. 01.14.12 # weird the program is working to format the ipod on the other computer 01.14.27 # if something goes awry, could i also just copy it back linux? 01.15.21 # Yes. Or just let the apple firmware and/or itunes recreate it. 01.15.30 # ahhh clever. 01.15.52 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host213-138.pool8250.interbusiness.it) 01.18.06 # it always amazed how simple the ipods menus and options were 01.30.30 # hmmm you wont believe this... 01.31.13 # i went to an old 900 Mhz computer and am able to run to restuaration in french on it :P 01.31.40 # ai usb 1.1 speed 01.32.29 # does it matter what folder i put tunes into? 01.35.08 # hi, can i use rockbox with ipodlinux and apple's original firmware all together in my ipod nano? 01.35.19 Quit crash (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.35.29 # yea 01.36.08 # the key combination to boot the original firmware will boot the ipodlinux bootloader? 01.36.24 # You only need one bootloader... 01.36.39 # and how i choose what to boot? 01.36.47 Quit Ribs ("Leaving") 01.37.28 # If you use the Rockbox bootloader, you will get Rockbox by default, the Apple firmware if you hold MENU whilst booting, and Linux if you hold PLAY whilst booting. 01.37.43 # If you use ipodloader2 from the ipodlinux project, you'll get a customisable menu. 01.37.56 # i still have my customizable bootloader... :D 01.38.10 # dont ask me how but i was able to restore my ipod on a different computer... 01.38.28 # user01: how? 01.38.30 # i have to install rockbox before or after installing ipodlinux? 01.38.39 Join Febs [0] (n=medifebb@207-172-122-81.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 01.38.44 # It's best to install ipodlinux first, as it requires repartitioning. 01.39.00 # For Rockbox, you just download a zip file and unzip it to your ipod's FAT partition. 01.39.09 # an older french version of windows :D 01.39.36 # heh... 01.39.41 # i just basically hit a bunch of buttons and it worked... 01.39.46 # so much for being rhetoric... 01.40.02 # wow, i have already installed ipodlinux 01.41.01 # spiorf: Do you have a boot menu already then? 01.41.21 # novimon, but i can try to install ipodloader2 01.41.50 # is this necessary? or this howto -- http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ManualRockboxInstall#iPod 01.41.54 # will work? 01.42.10 # with ipodloader 1 i mean 01.42.11 # firewire is working again on other computer! only one thing left...try to install rockbox again! 01.42.31 # spiorf: No - you need to replace loader1 with either loader2 or the Rockbox bootloader. 01.43.54 # there is on the wiki instructions to configure ipodloader2 to boot rockbox? 01.44.07 # there is in the ipodlinux wiki 01.45.57 # spiorf: There's no configuration needed - just download the rockbox.zip for your ipod from the daily builds page and unzip it to your ipod. 01.46.14 # The ipodloader2 menu will auto-detect it and display a Rockbox option. 01.47.06 # the tecnology is amazing :) 01.47.30 # American ISP Verizon is blocking non-US mail! < ahaha xD 01.47.45 Quit Rob2222 () 01.48.10 # they are safe now, no spam comes from US 01.49.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.50.44 # installing themes from WpsIpodNano is simply a matter of unpacking in root, right? 01.53.02 Quit hannesd (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.55.13 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 01.57.06 Nick CommanderInCheif is now known as merbanan (n=banan@farmer.campus.luth.se) 01.58.54 # hmmm rockbox doesnt work with firewire 01.58.57 # spiorf: Check the paths in the zip files first - you may need to unzip them into the .rockbox folder 01.59.18 # user01: Rockbox doesn't detect it, no. You'll need to manually put your ipod in disk mode. 01.59.20 # yes i see 01.59.35 # linuxstb: how do i do this? 02.00.19 # If you're in Rockbox, hold MENU+SELECT to reboot, then immediately hold PLAY+SELECT 02.00.33 # ... and then insert your firewire cable. 02.00.55 # linuxstb: si it dangerous that it was already inserte? 02.01.12 # No. It probably makes no difference... 02.01.26 # That's just the order I would do things in. 02.01.35 # linuxstb: in apps like tetris...adn the text editor ...how do you exit? 02.01.47 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACD0F027.ipt.aol.com) 02.02.09 # Either SELECT+MENU or (if it's not used for something else) MENU by itself will exit plugins. 02.02.14 # anyone have a decent estimate of the increased battery drain from rockbox compared to ipod's default? 02.03.01 # linuxstb: its working like its supposed to now thanks for all your help :) 02.03.05 # Check the IpodRuntime wiki page - I think people have reported more than 10 hours with Rockbox on the 5g. 02.03.31 # runtime page perfect, thanks man 02.03.48 Quit mantono (Remote closed the connection) 02.04.03 # It's in need of more people performing tests and posting the results, but it will give you a rough idea. 02.04.26 # it would also be interesting to see people doing the same test in Apple's firmware. 02.05.16 # 10hours is about normal 02.05.22 # according to the apple site, they get 10hours while testing the nano 02.05.29 # and I get roughly 7-8 off ogg 256k playback 02.05.34 # i think 5g video is supposed to get like 20 hours 02.05.37 # s/off/of/ 02.05.40 # playing just music 02.05.43 # linuxstb: is there a way to have rockbox load apple firware normally using menu + select ? 02.05.43 # 5g 60gb that is 02.06.01 # user01: hold 'menu' while it's booting 02.06.13 # dj-fu: thanks! 02.06.15 # rockbox will say "loading original firmware" and then load iPod 02.06.30 # Hold it down as soon as you reboot, it's kinda picky about timing ;] 02.06.36 # G'night 02.06.42 # toodles. 02.07.02 # dj-fu: my guess to what when wrong is that the apple cd didnt go through the procedure of formatting the disk first, and just named it a windows partition when it was actually still an apple one 02.07.49 # grrrrrrr i can listen to ogg and flac files finally this is soooo cool 02.08.28 # user01: To answer your question - no. 02.09.11 # linuxstb: no... to what? 02.09.29 # you can't listen to your DRM music. 02.09.46 # user01: To make Rockbox boot the Apple firmware when you hold MENU+SELECT 02.09.57 # is it menu+select? 02.10.00 # I thought it was just menu 02.10.03 # * dj-fu hides 02.10.41 # Menu+Select to reboot, then Menu to boot the Apple firmware 02.10.42 # :P 02.10.43 # < Gone 02.10.50 # I thought user01 was asking for Rockbox to default to loading the Apple firmware, rather than defaulting to Rockbox. 02.10.58 # o 02.11.05 # But maybe I misunderstood... 02.11.09 # Maybe I did ; 02.11.14 # user01: ask questions properly! 02.11.15 # linuxstb: oh thats a good qusetion too but i was asking the other one first 02.11.54 # linuxstb: i wanted to know both and i got an answer to both and i did it with one question instead of two...so i used a good compression format for the questions 02.12.00 # But yes, holding MENU immediately after resetting should start the Apple firmware if you time it correctly - the key detection is very picky. 02.12.08 # told ya ; 02.12.20 # * linuxstb should go to sleep 02.12.24 # * dj-fu nods 02.12.34 # apple firmware sucks 02.12.36 # imho 02.12.52 # It was a good motivation to get Rockbox ported. 02.13.04 # aye 02.13.28 # Although lots of people like it, and just use Rockbox for games.... 02.13.50 # I like my oggs 02.14.05 # nah i need my oggs and flacs 02.14.35 # rockbox games are cool though...but i wouldnt haev bought a black and white if that was my sole purpose 02.15.36 # heh, they've just caused less battery life for me 02.15.43 # my woman won't stop playing bejeweled 02.15.49 # or w/ever the hell it is. 02.16.49 # transferring via firewire is nice 02.17.15 # meh 02.17.17 # usb 2.0 is faster 02.17.18 # afaik. 02.18.24 # FireWire 400 can transfer data between devices at 100, 200, or 400 Mbit/s data rates (actually 98.304, 196.608, or 393.216 Mbit/s, but commonly referred to as S100, S200, and S400) 02.18.32 # as opposed to 480Mbit/s w/ usb2.0 02.18.52 # I doubt the hdd based ipods could get anywhere near that, though 02.20.55 # that is unless the firewire is using p1394c or something, with the encoding scheme 02.21.00 # anyway, afk. 02.22.14 # is there a way to put a boot password on rockbox? that would be cool 02.24.20 # user01: there has been a previous request for a similar feature 02.25.48 # is there a way to click a song and add it to any existing playlist? 02.26.25 # many, actually... 02.27.24 # with default configs or do i need to snoop around for some? 02.27.44 # now to updgrade i just write over the cvs files in the zip ? 02.27.46 # oh, i meant to the password-type suggestion 02.28.09 # esoteric: hold select on the song and you should get a menu. 02.28.39 # sharpe: would a password solution really work though if all ud need to do would eb to plug it into a usb port? 02.28.57 # user01: nope, wouldn't really be much of use at all. 02.29.43 # unless it could be reformatted with disk encryption 02.31.08 # actually, probably better off having another partition that is encrypted; as rockbox works only on a FAT partition. 02.34.11 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.34.21 Quit dpro (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.35.32 Join dpro [0] (n=x@80-218-23-239.dclient.hispeed.ch) 02.36.53 Quit Kohlrabi (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.38.46 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 02.40.47 Quit XavierGr ("One firmware to rule them all!") 02.42.15 # robin williams on whose line 02.42.16 # badass 02.44.29 # a boot password would still be useful if you're at a party or something and don't want someone to accidentally remove all your music 02.44.44 Quit scorche (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.45.43 # yeah, but how often is your music only on your ipod, and not somewhere else? 02.46.10 # it would still be an inconvenience at the party, maybe it is away from your computer and you don't have a cable 02.46.31 # although it would hardly be off in the first place under such circumstances 02.46.34 # what; you don't carry a usb cable with you everywhere you go? 02.46.44 # i never carry it 02.46.51 # sarcasm. 02.47.04 # sorry, i had my sarcasm-meter off 02.47.24 # :) 02.47.44 # a new cable costs more than i would be willing to pay for an mp3 player last time i checked :) 02.47.50 # i do not want to lose it 02.49.07 # what kind of player are we talking about? 02.49.12 # ipod nano 02.49.14 # i won it 02.49.36 # (not that it's cheap;) 25$? and 15$ in some cases? 02.51.06 # what kind of cables are you buying? 02.59.56 Join scorche [0] (n=scorche@208-110-158-188.customer.csolutions.net) 03.00.06 # scorche! 03.00.23 # i think my modem doesnt like me anymore... 03.00.35 # yes, it is now sentient. 03.00.49 # it always was 03.00.57 # sure... 03.12.46 Quit dpro (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.15.51 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.18.39 Join EbErT [0] (n=EbErT@adsl-211-220-143.asm.bellsouth.net) 03.20.17 Quit Poka64 ("time for sleep my ladies") 03.25.47 # When scrolling through music, is there an addin to allow you to pick a letter to jump to? sometimes its a pain to scroll through 400 songs just to get some song starting with t 03.26.58 # nope. 03.27.03 # but you could... 03.27.26 # not have 400 songs in one directory? :\ 03.27.50 # well, its all singles 03.28.05 # hrmm.. i wonder if that would be do-able some how 03.28.20 # my friends dell mp3 player has it, its really handy 03.28.50 # maybe use tagcache and sort the songs by the artist...? 03.29.13 # i hate tags, thats why i go rockbox 03.29.26 # just figured i'd ask real quick 03.29.32 # i got pimp theme though 03.29.41 # okay... 03.29.43 # its amazing what this program can do 03.29.53 # :) 03.29.59 # you help code? 03.30.14 # he is the person we slap when we get frustrated 03.30.16 # =D 03.30.18 # nope not a dev; just a 'rockbox expert' in the forums. 03.30.23 # grrrr 03.30.24 # which scorche is not... :) 03.30.33 # which no one knows why =O 03.30.46 # meh...i rarely post on the forums anyway 03.30.53 # haha nice 03.31.07 # i do, do some coding though. 03.31.31 # scorche, you dont happen to know if anyone has coded some functionality like that do ya? 03.31.36 # what do you guys code in? 03.31.44 # rockbox is coded in c. 03.31.46 # C 03.31.50 # from scratch isnt? 03.31.53 # aye. 03.31.59 # impressive 03.32.03 # esoteric: i have not heard of a plugin of that type 03.32.20 # i mainly do plugins and such... :) 03.32.34 # errr... *patch 03.32.54 Join {edf}ss [0] (i=SS@Kingston-HSE-ppp3562038.sympatico.ca) 03.32.59 # <{edf}ss> Mikachu you around? 03.33.01 Nick {edf}ss is now known as {EDF}SS (i=SS@Kingston-HSE-ppp3562038.sympatico.ca) 03.33.17 # although it wouldnt be too hard to press a button combo and each click could go through letters instead of individual entried 03.33.21 # ugh..i cant type 03.33.21 # esoteric: but, you could also change the scrolling speed, to scroll through the list quicker. 03.33.48 # scorche: yeah. can't do many things, can you? 03.33.52 # and there are patches for click wheel acceleration 03.34.01 # haha 03.34.05 # sharpe: and what is that supposed to mean? 03.34.17 # >_> 03.34.18 # scorche: oh, nothing, nothing at all... 03.34.19 # click through letters would be just as good 03.34.21 # <_< 03.34.23 Join shadou [0] (n=deejay@202-169-220-34.worldnet.co.nz) 03.34.48 Quit JdGordon (Remote closed the connection) 03.34.51 Quit dj-fu (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.35.07 # esoteric: i think that the hardest part about that is setting up the button combo to initiate that mode =P 03.35.24 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 03.35.52 # could you point me at a faq or tutorial to get me started? :D 03.36.18 # yeah, scorche. get him started. 03.36.41 # esoteric: do you know c? 03.37.06 # oh no 03.37.15 # i thought it was going to be a cfg editing crap 03.37.18 # oh noes... 03.37.43 # ah nm then sorry boutthat 03.37.49 # np =) 03.38.12 # * scorche glares at sharpe 03.38.13 # the extent of my editing/'coding' anymore is .cfg and excel macros ;) 03.38.30 # i can uninstall itunes finally hooray! 03.38.41 # there are plenty of tutorials on c around... 03.39.08 # yeah, sharpe, get him started. 03.39.18 # yeah. i will. 03.39.51 # google 'c programming tutorials' 03.39.55 # :D 03.40.42 # <3 google 03.43.53 # so aside from make badass mp3 player programs, what do you guys do 03.43.56 Quit akaidiot (Remote closed the connection) 03.44.16 # i can't really speak for much anyone else, except for scorche, maybe. 03.46.07 # in his case: nothing of importance. 03.46.29 # haha 03.48.39 # i think im going to try a theme 03.48.44 # make, that is., 03.48.59 # good luck? 03.49.00 # i used to love making themes for litestep; you fellas ever use that? 03.49.13 # i did for a few minutes... 03.49.33 # sharpe: ... 03.49.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.49.45 # then i just used bblean, and now SharpE; which has no connection with me whatsoever. 03.49.58 # scorche: :) 03.50.30 # sharpe: dont be hatin' just because my handle is one letter longer 03.50.52 # yes, i'm so envious of that one letter. 03.50.57 # i know 03.51.10 # sorry that i mentioned it, but you were getting a bit out of hand 03.51.31 # had to something that would produce a sobering effect on you 03.51.37 # *do 03.51.47 # but mine takes less space to send, making it quicker to transmit my messages... 03.52.15 # auto-completion ftw 03.52.23 # indeed. 03.53.24 # i still need to find something to do. 03.58.51 Quit TeaSea ("Leaving") 03.59.50 # read a book? 04.00.04 # not preferred 04.01.05 Join akaidiot [0] (n=not@84-217-85-175.tn.glocalnet.net) 04.01.36 # movie? 04.02.04 # meh, dunno. 04.02.27 Join Rob2222_ [0] (n=Miranda@ACB7B5FE.ipt.aol.com) 04.02.39 # <{EDF}SS> !seen Mikachu 04.02.44 # <{EDF}SS> seen Mikachu 04.07.05 # Mikachu was last seen an hour and fourteen minutes ago. 04.07.22 # <{EDF}SS> thanks 04.07.28 # anytime. 04.07.34 # !leave sharpe 04.07.35 # actually, the last time he talked. 04.08.41 # scorche: Hah. 04.10.13 Quit lou (Remote closed the connection) 04.10.26 Join rotator_ [0] (n=e@74.136.209.119) 04.10.47 Quit rotator (Nick collision from services.) 04.10.53 Nick rotator_ is now known as rotator (n=e@74.136.209.119) 04.10.58 # flibble flarble. 04.11.02 Join actionshrimp [0] (n=nn@host86-142-223-227.range86-142.btcentralplus.com) 04.12.05 Join lou [0] (i=lou@217.114.216.171) 04.12.32 # i'll make a list of all the things i plan on buying. 04.13.29 # {EDF}SS: what is it? 04.13.34 # rockbox seems so dead now 04.13.45 # toxicfume: why's that? 04.13.53 # <{EDF}SS> hi Mikachu - how do I make it stop and charge when I plug it in?! 04.14.02 # {EDF}SS: hold menu 04.14.07 # {EDF}SS: as you insert the cable 04.14.16 # <{EDF}SS> sheesh, secret codes to do everything in your build :P 04.14.28 # that is the code to not stop normally, i inverted the check 04.15.46 # <{EDF}SS> holding menu it briefly flashes the usb picture on the screen, then just boots normally 04.16.00 # hm, okay, i never actually tried it 04.16.22 # i guess reboot to apple os then, it's what i do 04.16.46 # <{EDF}SS> alright... 04.18.55 Quit lou (Remote closed the connection) 04.19.10 Join lou [0] (i=lou@217.114.216.171) 04.19.24 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.30.57 # lala 04.31.10 # is 3.0 going to have some huge updates in it? 04.31.30 # ah... 04.31.30 # bugfixes 04.32.06 # nice 04.32.08 # month or two? 04.32.16 Quit hardeep ("BitchX: try our Windows 95/98 and Windows NT 4 flavors too!") 04.32.25 # the hope is that it has been out for 2 months now 04.32.34 # haha 04.33.31 # sure 04.33.35 # yay 04.33.36 # me 04.33.37 # yay! 04.36.35 # esoteric: 3.0 will have exactly the same features that you currently see in the daily builds. 04.37.02 Part pixelma 04.38.04 # ahhh 04.38.19 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-25-216.austin.res.rr.com) 04.39.09 # sharpe; i ended up just dividing my singles in folders from A-M and N-Z 04.39.13 # much easier ;) 04.41.01 Join earHertz [0] (n=chatzill@c-24-30-242-135.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 04.41.08 Quit Nilisco (Connection timed out) 04.43.22 Part Paul_The_Nerd 04.44.00 Quit Genre9mp3 ("I don't suffer from Rockbox psychosis. I enjoy every minute of it.") 04.44.01 # esoteric: heheh 04.56.47 Quit Daishi ("Client exiting...") 04.58.38 Quit actionshrimp ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.01 :: www.XLhost.de )") 05.00.38 Quit lou (Remote closed the connection) 05.01.05 Join lou [0] (i=lou@lou.sh) 05.01.40 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@ACB17CDC.ipt.aol.com) 05.03.41 Quit {EDF}SS () 05.19.00 Quit Rob2222_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.28.20 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-25-216.austin.res.rr.com) 05.31.09 # yay optimization! 05.34.17 # YAY 05.36.18 Join wehn [0] (n=wehn@ppp122-121.lns1.bne3.internode.on.net) 05.46.19 Join bitshift [0] (i=bitshift@CPE000c6e94cf09-CM001225d870de.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 05.48.41 Nick JoeBorn is now known as JBorn (n=jborn@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 05.49.32 # is there a way to drag and drop playlists into a file and copy it to an ipod with rockbox 05.49.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.49.58 # Rockbox uses M3U playlists. Many programs support generating them 05.50.54 # nice 05.51.25 # In fact, probably most popular audio players, including Winamp and Foobar2000 05.52.47 # and WMP i believe 05.53.33 # WMP uses their own playlists: wpl 05.54.24 # ahh 05.54.29 # ill have to install winamp then 05.55.27 # Just remember to point it at the files on your player, and not the copies on your HD. ;) 05.55.46 # would be quite fun if it still worked. 05.56.59 # It does if the directory structure is identical 05.57.34 # how do you guys make them? 05.57.55 # Paul_The_Nerd: yeh. 05.58.13 # esoteric: you mean, playlists? 05.58.41 # yup 05.58.45 # personally 05.58.51 # well... 05.59.33 # i don't usually answer personal questions... but... well... i usually listen to albums at once; from one artist. 05.59.58 # I use Rockbox to make my playlists 06.00.41 # Most of the time I listen to just albums, but sometimes I'll stick two or three ablums in a playlist and save it for future use 06.00.47 # i use rockbox most of the time as well 06.00.49 # indeed 06.00.54 # ahhh 06.01.06 # so you guys dont usually pick out like 50 random songs like i do ;) 06.01.29 # esoteric: i do sometimes....dynamic playlists are great 06.02.02 # But picking out 50 random songs is something you'd want to do on the player anyway 06.05.06 # true true 06.06.17 # and if i want 50 random songs (that i dont want to pick out), i just play my playlist with every song on there and set it to shuffle 06.06.48 # That's what I do too. 06.06.49 # :) 06.09.11 # welp bout bed time 06.09.17 # thanks for all the help fellas, have a good one 06.09.59 Quit esoteric () 06.14.07 # join /#debian 06.14.19 # *whoops* 06.14.58 Part Paul_The_Nerd 06.19.54 Join jbauman [0] (n=Johnq@66.216.165.90.dynamic.dejazzd.com) 06.33.49 Quit Febs () 06.53.41 Quit jbauman (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.56.20 Join madgoat [0] (n=jircii@cpe-24-174-239-114.gt.res.rr.com) 06.57.22 # hello? 06.57.27 Nick madgoat is now known as paperangel (n=jircii@cpe-24-174-239-114.gt.res.rr.com) 06.57.46 # eh... 06.58.03 Quit rotator ("zzzzzzzzzzz") 06.58.36 # is rockbox better than the default firmware on the 5g ipod video? i see support for ogg and such but i dont know if i should change to it 06.59.03 # you can always boot back into the original firmware with rockbox installed 06.59.18 # how do i install it, just put it in the root directory? 07.00.07 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WhyRockbox 07.00.09 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation 07.00.16 # thank you 07.00.20 # anytime. 07.01.52 # is there a mac way? 07.01.57 # im on a mac G3 07.02.02 # yes 07.02.08 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationFromMacOSX 07.03.00 Quit user01 () 07.03.35 # mac way is a pain 07.03.47 # i'd just use a pc for the install 07.04.07 # gotta set invisible folders visible on mac too 07.04.12 # like .rockbox 07.04.25 # yah, i found it 07.04.29 # im a linux man mainly. 07.05.58 # where you guys from? 07.06.11 # all over 07.06.29 # scorche doesn't really exist though. 07.06.45 # well...i exist only in sharpe's dreams 07.06.55 # he likes to think he exists. 07.07.19 # lol. 07.07.36 # what do you guys do for a living? 07.07.54 # stuff? 07.08.41 # ya know....there are 103 people in here....asking those types of questions...is....well... 07.09.23 # lol 07.09.27 # however only around twenty of them actually participate in/with rockbox on a regular basis. know what i mean? 07.09.34 # yes. 07.10.11 # sharpe: so which 20 are they?....there better not be 21 07.10.25 # you guys dont like telling people about yourselves, do you? 07.10.32 # scorche: i also said, 'about twenty' 07.10.36 # i am shy 07.10.39 # * scorche blushes 07.10.42 # hence, leaving some variation in the number. 07.10.59 # and bored to the point that i would even be responding to this 07.11.01 # lol 07.11.11 # * paperangel pokes scorche 07.12.06 # o_O 07.13.16 # lol 07.13.23 Quit paperangel ("paperangel has no reason") 07.14.25 # we lose more users that way... 07.15.04 # he could have asked #apple for an unbiased opinion of which is better too =P 07.15.39 # what are the chances of that opinion being biased? 07.16.25 Join paperangel [0] (n=jircii@cpe-24-174-239-114.gt.res.rr.com) 07.22.01 Quit shadou (Connection timed out) 07.23.14 Quit Zweiundvierzig (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.23.27 Join apo [0] (n=r00t@dslb-088-065-074-076.pools.arcor-ip.net) 07.25.10 Quit apo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.25.16 Join apo [0] (n=r00t@dslb-088-065-074-076.pools.arcor-ip.net) 07.28.42 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@a82-93-10-238.adsl.xs4all.nl) 07.28.48 # is ipodlinux better than rock box? 07.35.43 # paperangel depends on what do you want to do on your ipod :P 07.40.07 Quit EbErT () 07.40.33 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.41.15 # hey Bg3r 07.41.40 # have you installed rockbox using mac before? 07.47.30 # mmmmm.... 07.47.36 # <3 cake batter 07.48.24 Join Ribs [0] (n=ribs@riblet.plus.com) 07.49.00 # can i say whore here? 07.49.16 # apparently so 07.49.22 # your a whore scorche. 07.49.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.50.02 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-56-188.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) 07.50.04 # the sad part about this, is that you have only known me for not quite an hour 07.50.23 # i know. 07.51.37 # paperangel, please, stop talking bullsh.ts or leave, okay ? 07.52.29 # i was joking. dont take things so seriously. 07.52.46 # sorry, if i offended you. 07.53.16 # anywho, how are you scorche? 07.54.55 Part paperangel 07.55.51 Join muesli|delhi [0] (n=muesli_t@125.23.52.85) 08.04.01 Join Nilisco [0] (i=nilisco@nxpe.com) 08.05.16 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.06.39 Quit chendo (Connection timed out) 08.09.12 Join chendo [0] (n=chendo@203-206-12-250.dyn.iinet.net.au) 08.14.40 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-83-98.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) 08.15.50 Join dj-fu [0] (n=deejay@202-89-158-165.ubs.qsi.net.nz) 08.18.03 Join Zagor [0] (n=bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.26.59 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-52-5.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) 08.29.41 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.37.01 Join ender` [0] (i=null@84.52.165.220) 08.40.00 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.42.24 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-32-163.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 08.44.53 Join theli_ua [0] (n=theli@pension-icom.intercom.net.ua) 08.49.32 Join B4gder [0] (n=daniel@static-213-115-255-230.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se) 08.51.12 Join ac [0] (n=5078751e@labb.contactor.se) 08.51.21 # hi all 08.58.31 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.01.50 Quit Malnilion (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.02.38 # hey 09.02.55 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-40-38.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 09.04.13 # What needs to be done for Voice Support? 09.04.32 # you read the docs 09.07.09 # i have looked into the docs, but cann't find any todos or fixmes... will check bugtracker 09.07.35 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VoiceHowto 09.07.54 # linked from the page called "Documentation" in the left menu 09.08.43 # hm ... i suppose release will include manual :D ? 09.08.56 # yeah that's the general plan 09.09.42 # hope most will read it... 09.10.18 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 09.14.13 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 09.14.47 # i just thought i'd say, goodnight everyone. 09.14.52 # old dos games used to ask for a specific word on a specific page in the manual before allowing you to start the game 09.16.54 # and old knights had to answer to questions about swallows before being allowed to cross bridges 09.17.19 # * B4gder ducks 09.17.35 # and people with email accounts have to enter a password before accessing their account. 09.17.38 # maybe they were on to something 09.18.10 # maybe something like, a password-like system... 09.18.12 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.19.31 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 09.23.32 Join shadou [0] (n=deejay@202-89-158-165.ubs.qsi.net.nz) 09.28.56 # B4gder: (theoretical question so far) Would it be possible to put multiple build servers behind one NAT router? 09.29.13 # ..i.e. is it possible to use a non-standard ssh port? 09.29.28 Quit dj-fu (No route to host) 09.30.03 # amiconn: yeah, should indeed be possible 09.30.18 Quit lostnihilist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.32.41 Quit akaias (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.33.41 Join bondolo_ [0] (n=mike@dsl081-053-164.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 09.35.38 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 09.36.50 Join akaias [0] (n=akaias@c-71-57-61-189.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 09.38.14 Join petur [0] (n=d4efd6a6@labb.contactor.se) 09.38.42 # 'morning.... 09.39.37 # gotta love antivirus programs 09.39.42 # morning! 09.40.20 # * petur thinks the recording screen needs a clear visual indication of what it's doing 09.40.30 # some moronic antivirus-scanner in Birmingham has been downloading 78GB from download.rockbox.org the last two days 09.40.37 # took me half a show to see I wasn't recording :( 09.41.02 # 437 copies of our vmware environment 09.41.06 # 78 gigabytes are many gigabytes 09.41.21 # blew up my bandwidth quota quite good, it did 09.41.48 # maybe somebody used some tool to map webspace to a drive 09.42.04 # and his virusscanner checked it out.... 09.42.29 # its apple trying to destroy us.. 09.42.35 # Birmingham England or Birmingham Alabama USA? 09.42.35 # hahaha 09.42.43 # UK 09.43.01 # ah, good 09.43.09 # must have blown that user's bandwidth too 09.43.31 # yeah, it was from a single IP address and it is within a small range 09.43.44 # don't weant the US to look any stupider than we have too 09.43.50 # to 09.43.54 # eh 09.43.59 # you guys need to host stuff? 09.44.03 # earHertz: odds are it was a US scanner :-) 09.44.08 # haha 09.44.10 # rofl 09.44.14 # i have 2TB on a dreamhost webhosting i want to use ;/ 09.44.21 # 2tb of bandwidth, that is 09.44.33 # 2tb is a lot 09.44.42 # yes, yes it is 09.44.50 # i only use like 5% and i'm hosting like 20 sites 09.44.53 # Zagor: yeah, and we elected Bush. America's looking bad these days. 09.45.24 # * earHertz pretens to be French or something 09.45.39 # earHertz: if you elected Bush, you don't *look* bad, you *are* ;) 09.46.12 # petur: well, I gave up my rent-controlled apartment to go to Ohio and work for Kerry, but yes, you're right 09.46.23 # chendo: thanks, but we're doing fine as it is. it's just annoying to find stuff like this. 09.46.27 # k 09.46.31 # if you need any hosting just ask 09.46.35 # yup, thanks 09.47.49 # In Europe, if you vote in the wrong place, does your vote count? 09.48.25 # we are many countries with different laws, you know :-) 09.48.41 Quit bondolo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.48.42 # yes, I know: but in your country? 09.48.55 # no, we can't vote in the wrong place afaik 09.49.04 # they don't accept your vote then 09.49.11 # ah, ok 09.49.27 # not that I tried ;-) 09.49.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.49.51 # same in Ohio; I put together a databse for Kerry's campiagn to send voters to the right polling place 09.53.45 # there was a slogan on a meeting with "The only bush i trust is mine. and a picture of pubic hair below it" :D 09.56.04 # http://www.bradblog.com/Images/BushBlowJobImpeach_Med.jpg 09.56.22 # ;) 10.06.49 Join lostnihilist [0] (n=james@c-67-175-35-181.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 10.07.11 Join nudelyn [0] (i=nudel@dyn-62-56-85-136.dslaccess.co.uk) 10.11.48 Join spiorf [0] (i=spiorf@host213-138.pool8250.interbusiness.it) 10.11.48 Quit ac ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 10.14.38 # hi, i cannot boot the original apple's firmware in my ipod nano 10.14.45 # what should i put in the ipodloader.conf file? 10.14.51 # i'm using ipodloader 2.4 10.14.55 Quit mikearthur (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.15.04 # spiorf: that's the ipodlinux loader 10.16.23 Join slimx [0] (n=slimx@81.255.106.202) 10.17.02 # i know 10.18.54 # spiorf: B4gder's point might be that you should as in an ipodlinux forum 10.19.21 # I would assume such a forum would be more likely to provide useful answers 10.19.43 # you use ipodlinux loader and you want to load apple OF 10.19.50 # it doesn't say rockbox anywhere 10.20.15 # well, i was told here to use ipodloader 2 to boot apple/linux/rockbox 10.20.27 # rockbox's loader can do that too.. 10.20.28 # yes, you can do that 10.20.34 # i don't pretend any help 10.20.37 # midkay: it can?? 10.20.52 # earHertz, sure, just as MENU = appleos, PLAY = /linux.bin 10.21.13 # i just asked. if someone knows the answer and want to help me i'm happy 10.21.15 # midkay: What do I ned to do, add an ipodlinix partition? 10.21.45 # spiorf: You were told that you could use either ipodloader2 or the Rockbox bootloader... But afaik, you don't need a config file for ipodloader2 - it's optional. 10.21.54 # earHertz, yes.. probably even 100mb is fine, an ext3 partition anywhere.. 10.22.11 # * earHertz is trying to use the ipodlinuux arm emulator to do some arm assembly coding for rockbox linux 10.22.19 # linux.bin goes in root of rockbox partition.. everything else goes according to instructions 10.22.45 # so i's use teh ipodlinux bootloader? 10.22.59 # no.... 10.23.05 # rockbox's bootloader can do it, as i just said. 10.23.25 # i'll try with a clean installation 10.23.50 # oh! 10.24.11 # I put linux.bin in the root of my filesystem partition? 10.24.30 # earHertz: For the Rockbox bootloader, yes - in the FAT32 partition. 10.25.08 Join [1]toxicfume [0] (n=bulah@ppp-58.8.8.56.revip2.asianet.co.th) 10.25.10 # how well does ipodlinux work on a g5/ipod video? 10.25.38 # earHertz: http://download.rockbox.org/movies/ <= numerous movies showing it 10.26.11 # hm, in fact only one mentions it ;-) 10.26.19 # ;) 10.28.24 # am I wrong, or is memcpy NOT written in asembly for ARM targets? 10.28.40 Join tongas [0] (n=c3063b0e@labb.contactor.se) 10.29.06 # earHertz: Sounds right to me. It's one of the many things to be done for the ARM ports. 10.29.20 # I think only memset has an ARM version. 10.29.35 # how'd we get memset and not mmecpy?? 10.29.51 # Someone wrote memset, but non-one wrote memcpy... 10.29.57 # ^no-one 10.30.03 # rhetorical question 10.30.30 # there's a memcpy.S for arm in the Linux kernel 10.30.49 # in ipodlinux? 10.31.00 # in the standard linux kernel 10.31.06 # so it should be in ipodlinux too 10.31.40 Quit toxicfume (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.31.41 Nick [1]toxicfume is now known as toxicfume (n=bulah@ppp-58.8.8.56.revip2.asianet.co.th) 10.31.44 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@fhrouter83.fh-wuerzburg.de) 10.32.04 # we shopuld steal it. especauly if it uses ldmxx instructions 10.32.33 # Go ahead. I'm pretty sure the memset was taken from elsewhere. 10.32.58 # well, I want to run it through aremulater before ai do anything' 10.33.12 # Yes, the memset is from the Linux kernel as well. 10.35.28 # what are some good urls for rockbox devl? 10.35.31 # ls -1 linux-2.6.17.1/arch/arm/lib/*.S | wc -l 10.35.31 # 50 10.35.39 # lots of fine assembler there ;-) 10.36.10 # elljay: www.rockbox.org then click "documentation" ;-) 10.36.16 # I didn't even know standard linux targeted arm machines 10.36.22 # hehe 10.36.25 # damed open source developers 10.36.32 # I run linux on arm at work all days 10.36.33 # there is alot of arm development for linux 10.36.43 # embedded devices 10.36.53 # the Linux arm port is very mature 10.37.32 # I've been looking at hotdog;s arm assembly for teh ipod video lcd 10.37.47 # I understand -- wel;l, most of it, but some of teh details elude me 10.40.32 # B4gder: what was the block alignment size in the MI4 files ? 10.41.08 # you mean file size? 0x400 10.41.36 # yes that was it, thanks 10.43.56 Join mikearthur [0] (n=mike@212.20.225.130) 10.45.21 # * linuxstb has a Nokia 770 running ARM linux... 10.45.40 # how is that? 10.45.48 # it seemed too much of a niche product to me 10.45.54 # just internet tablet and all 10.45.58 Join dpro [0] (n=x@80-218-23-239.dclient.hispeed.ch) 10.46.05 # What do you mean "how"? 10.46.26 # how do you like that? 10.46.51 # It's growing on me. It's cool for listening to web radio... 10.47.03 # do you really use it that much though? 10.47.08 # But I may be doing a Real Work project using it, so I didn't pay for it myself. 10.47.19 # enough to warrent its cost? 10.47.22 # B4gder: do you know at what offset the firmware is in the flash of PP based players ? :) 10.47.26 # ah 10.47.49 # No, I probably wouldn't have bought it myself - I would prefer to use a laptop. 10.48.06 # merbanan: I have no idea 10.48.13 # It's main flaw IMO is that it tries to do more than its 220MHz ARM processor can cope with. 10.48.30 # 220 MHz is not a lot when you have a big screen 10.48.34 # But a Rockbox port would fly.... 10.48.49 # How big is teh Nokia's screen? 10.49.18 # * B4gder once ran linux+qt on a 300MHz xscale on 800x600 10.49.55 # B4gder: qt? a zsaurus? 10.50.07 # no, custom board/display thing 10.50.11 # Real Work 10.50.25 Part mikearthur ("Konversation terminated!") 10.50.33 # B4gder: what IS your real work? 10.50.52 # embedded development, hired professional 10.51.02 # I sell myself to anyone who pays ;-) 10.51.19 # like a ... 10.51.24 # :D 10.51.28 # so, somebody wants to program a cell phone or camera, you're the consultant? 10.51.35 # yeps 10.51.46 # sweet 10.51.46 # quite a lot of embedded linux these days 10.52.05 # I only get hired to do databses and java front-ends 10.52.07 # earHertz: It's a 800x480 16-bit colour touchscreen. 10.52.38 # I was looking at a C++ job lately -- I'm actually pretty good at C__. It paid about half what java does. despite C++ being much more difficult 10.52.56 # linuxstb: the nokia's atouchscreen? 10.53.06 # Yep 10.53.30 # In landscape mode - http://europe.nokia.com/770 10.53.36 # that's twice (ok, four tinmes) the dimensions of my zauruas 10.53.39 # I can't stand java, no matter what the pay would be ;-) 10.53.57 # B4gder: well, me too.Java is really more based on C than C++ 10.54.04 # But, it pays. 10.54.41 # linuxstb: does the 770 have any plug for ethernet or is it wlan only? 10.54.51 # wireless 10.54.54 # only 10.54.56 # Yes, just wlan. 10.55.05 # built in wifi? 10.55.09 # yup 10.55.13 # I think you can set up networking via usb if you really want to. 10.55.39 # do they have keyboards? 10.55.42 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@dsl-88-218-17-158.customers.vivodi.gr) 10.55.44 # I find the nokia pages on the 770 very uninformative 10.55.47 # Not a real one. 10.55.52 # thumb? 10.56.01 # B4gder: Yes, Nokia have (in the last 24 hours) completely broken their website... 10.56.08 # oh 10.56.21 # If you had checked a couple of days ago, you would have found lots of info. 10.56.33 # I actually prefer thumb keyboard. I have little tiny hands 10.57.33 # nokia770.com seems better 10.57.36 Quit Nilisco (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.57.50 # The open source effort surrounding it is at http://www.maemo.org - I think most of the "userland" stuff is open sourced, but I'm pretty sure there are a bunch of binary kernel modules... 10.58.44 # I bet, with a TI chip inside... 10.59.15 # is there a linux you can put on a nokia? If it''s 800x480 with a keyboard, I could program on it 10.59.50 # earHertz: it runs linux already 11.00.10 # a linux I could run scite or kate on? 11.00.16 # I guess 11.00.25 # and gcc? 11.00.29 # sure 11.00.41 # is a plain arm linux 11.00.59 # cpul;d I do that and still use it as a phone? 11.01.06 # Bagder: Although it's one of the more open TI chips - the OMAP 1710, which I believe is compatible with another OMAP chip (15xx, I forget), for which TI actually make a datasheet available... 11.01.18 # earHertz: the 770 is not really a phone 11.01.25 # aha 11.01.27 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-97-125.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr) 11.01.28 # what is it? 11.01.30 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 11.01.32 # It's not a phone at all - there's no GSM module. 11.01.57 # Although VOIP is about to be supported in the next OS upgrade. 11.04.05 # oh, it's a zaurus without a keyboard 11.04.28 # sweet, but I want a keyboard 11.05.46 # ah, time for bed. 11.05.48 # night 11.05.50 Quit earHertz ("Chatzilla 0.9.72 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]") 11.07.23 # linuxstb: What exactly is the problem with the 770's performance? 11.08.02 # * amiconn cannot imagine why a 220MHz arm would be too slow for web if a 50MHz 68060 can do it, with a larger screen 11.09.30 Quit dpro (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.11.05 # No, the web browser is fine. But it's just generally sluggish - e.g. when switching between applications or opening new windows. It also has a video player as one of the core features, but isn't powerful enough to decode video at anywhere near the full resolution the hi-res screen can display. 11.13.14 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.13.43 # Missing optimisation... 11.13.48 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 11.14.55 # Good luck getting 25fps 800x480 video working... :) 11.16.56 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.18.54 # I would be quite tempted to try to get Rockbox running, but it only has 64MB of internal flash disk, and only accepts RS-MMC cards (maximum 1GB at the moment). But when the sim's audio playback works flawlessly, I might be tempted to try to get that working, so I can access my music wirelessly via an NFS share. 11.20.28 Quit spiorf ("Sto andando via") 11.22.21 Quit tongas ("CGI:IRC") 11.27.04 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host213-138.pool8250.interbusiness.it) 11.27.09 Quit shadou ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") 11.28.23 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-17-185.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 11.31.29 Join EdwardBaynes [0] (n=Astaldo@dslb-084-063-015-068.pools.arcor-ip.net) 11.31.35 # hi there 11.32.36 # i've got a question about rockbox on iriver h120, specifically about the remote 11.33.01 # just ask 11.33.38 # when i'm in the filetree view, pushing the remote's volume control will scroll all shown filenames to the right or left, resp. 11.33.48 # which ich find _very_ useful 11.34.00 # but how can this be done without the remote? 11.34.13 Join bam_ [0] (n=bam@pool-71-108-99-77.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 11.34.27 # no idea. Didn't even know it was possible with the remote 11.34.59 # it isn't mentioned in the manual, either 11.35.05 # a "hidden feature" :) 11.35.22 # hold play + joystick I think it is 11.35.35 # hmm, i'll try this 11.36.04 # what feature? 11.36.28 # scroll file list left/right 11.36.50 # cool, play+joystick does the trick :) 11.37.04 # thanks a lot 11.37.34 # cu 11.37.46 # * petur waves 11.37.51 Quit EdwardBaynes ("KVIrc 3.2.3 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/") 11.42.58 # there is a way to kill a hung plugin? 11.43.24 # i think reboot only 11.43.32 # ya 11.43.36 # reboot 11.43.49 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.46.55 # and to exit from plugins, there is a default key combo? 11.47.29 Join dpro [0] (n=x@195.176.254.254) 11.48.00 # no 11.48.16 # most use the same, but no default 11.48.27 # stop/off usually is quit 11.48.47 # or select and menu for ipoo 11.49.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.50.34 # ok thanks 11.59.50 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp142-231.adsl.forthnet.gr) 12.12.39 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@147.80-202-98.nextgentel.com) 12.13.56 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 12.20.19 Join Poka64 [0] (i=peter@hd5e241c0.gavlegardarna.gavle.to) 12.32.27 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.32.27 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 12.33.31 Quit midkay (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.37.05 # http://www.anythingbutipod.com/archives/sandisk/ 12.37.19 # 8GB Sansa is on the way.... 12.37.22 # kind of expected 12.37.22 Join mantono [0] (n=anton@c83-250-204-173.bredband.comhem.se) 12.37.30 # since the 6GB has a 4+2 setup 12.38.36 # still neat though 12.38.51 # * Genre9mp3 wonders when are we going to see 8+GB NAND flash chips 12.39.14 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 12.40.51 # They seem that they really want to support their product... that's good 12.41.48 # Let's hope they will do what they can to help a possible rockbox port 12.41.56 # B4gder: Any news regarding hw docs / sdk? 12.46.54 # no news at all on that front 12.59.57 Join TeaSea [0] (n=Thunderc@lonsdale.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 13.02.24 Join flux__ [0] (i=flux@jolt.modeemi.cs.tut.fi) 13.07.29 # say, anyone ever thought that having usb sound device support would be nice?-) apparently the wishlist tracker doesn't have that.. 13.08.03 # (I just installed rockbox today on my iRiver iHP-120, and it's great!) 13.08.24 # that can't be done on the h120 13.08.35 # hmm, how is that? 13.08.41 # flux__: no usb host 13.08.42 # because of how the usb hw works on it 13.08.46 Quit Sinbios ("If the definition of a klutz is someone who doesn't have eyes on their ass, then yes, I suppose I am a klutz.") 13.08.47 # it is a pure usb-storage device 13.09.07 # so it has some separate usb-storage hardware, the os doesn't implement it? 13.09.12 # yes 13.09.22 # funny decision 13.09.25 # not really 13.09.29 # cheaper?-) 13.09.30 # very common 13.09.44 # a lot easier => cheaper 13.09.56 # I would've imagine integration would be the key. but I suppose this way the cpu doesn't need to be connected to usb.. 13.10.35 # right, the usb bridge chip takes over instead of the cpu 13.12.12 # well, too bad, but thanks for input 13.12.34 # on the h3x0 it should be possible 13.13.24 # I can see that being useful to some people, though 13.13.46 # a second audio output to the workstation/laptop, with optic out 13.13.52 # and likely of better sound quality 13.14.18 # (less interference from the machine components, which are quite audible on my workstation at low volumes) 13.14.46 # well, the h1x0 has digital out already 13.15.09 # yes, but cannot be used for that task (for example streaming music from the net) 13.15.47 # I'm only saying that you won't get better output than so, even if you'd pass it over usb to your pc 13.16.06 # uh, I meant the other way 13.16.14 # ah 13.16.15 # the device would appear as a usb sound card to the pc 13.16.26 # well, the h1x0 has digital in as well 13.16.35 # can it work as pass-through? 13.16.48 # it can 13.16.51 # hm, I guess it does that in the recording even with the standard firmware 13.17.11 # this workstation doesn't have digital output, though ;) 13.17.27 # hm, maybe doesn't have 13.18.55 # this is some ibm pc with integrated sound (Intel 82801DB-ICH4/Analog Devices AD1981B), the mixer doesn't suggest that 13.19.22 # anyway, the usb sound card would be more universally useful, even if it wouldn't be of use to me ;) 13.19.44 # flux__: you can build a USB sound card with optical out.. 13.19.49 Quit apo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.19.57 Join apo [0] (n=r00t@dslb-088-065-074-076.pools.arcor-ip.net) 13.21.39 # that's a worthwhile option 13.22.36 # I've considered another alternative though, a signal diminisher (word?) to my head phone connection would allow me to use higher columes, with less interference 13.22.51 # * petur wonders if the reports about h300 retail os boot failures ( http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5050.0 ) are related to the eeprom corruption 13.23.00 # (-50dB on iRiver is a nice volume for me) 13.23.03 # * petur encounters work :( 13.23.11 Quit petur ("worrrk") 13.23.19 # work caught the poor fellow ;( 13.23.51 # another innocent work victim 13.27.39 Quit apo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.27.46 Join apo [0] (n=r00t@dslb-088-065-074-076.pools.arcor-ip.net) 13.28.02 # Blar 13.31.16 Part tucoz ("Leaving") 13.31.53 Quit goffa (Remote closed the connection) 13.31.56 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 13.32.00 Join tucoz [0] (n=martin@rockbox/developer/tucoz) 13.39.38 Join Mmmm [0] (n=mscarrat@cpc1-hem13-0-0-cust634.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 13.40.04 # hey 13.40.08 # Right...I've decided to do a bit of work on the 3.0 release 13.40.11 Nick SanForVendetta is now known as Sanitr (n=San@A-112-152.cust.iol.ie) 13.40.20 # remote support needs sorting right? 13.40.23 # anyone know the exact measurements for the H300 stock battery? 13.40.37 # or link? 13.40.51 # i wasn't sure if the wiki would have it, so I tought i'd ask first 13.40.56 # as in size?...or specs? 13.41.02 # Sanitr ~20h 128kbps mp3 13.41.09 # and disk power off enabled 13.41.19 # no, size, as in cm or inches 13.41.21 # or that >_> 13.41.25 # a-ha! 13.41.28 # I've made a couple of patches already, one to finish the display code in the recording screen and one to enable the remote for the 'enable bookmarks' screen 13.41.39 # like, lenght X width X depth 13.41.54 Quit apo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.41.59 # Mmmm where are these patches ? 13.42.03 Join apo [0] (n=r00t@dslb-088-065-074-076.pools.arcor-ip.net) 13.42.04 # what do i have to press to boot into the original iriver firmware again? 13.42.06 # Mmmm: ah, didn't see you. I made you a "developer" in flyspray now 13.42.20 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5614 and http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5613 13.42.20 # 13.42.30 # ooh ta b4gder 13.42.47 # http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iriver_H300_series wow 13.43.01 # what else needs doing on the remote? does anyone know what's not working yet? 13.46.02 # Mmmm the virtual keyboard 13.46.27 # that sounds like fun..:D 13.46.38 # yeah 13.46.56 # a pervert kind of fun 13.47.24 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-32-219.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 13.48.17 # heh heh... 13.49.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.51.44 # speech recognition could be a nice alternative ;) 13.52.01 # B4gder: how do I edit the attachment in the original task post? 13.52.51 # I don't know 13.53.01 # ah! 13.53.02 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 13.53.03 # Mmmm: a complete list of things that don't work with the remote: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5191 13.53.23 # ooh thanks markun...that's what i was after ;) 13.53.39 # I just unassigned myself because I don't have time for it 13.55.58 Quit apo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.56.06 Join apo [0] (n=r00t@dslb-088-065-074-076.pools.arcor-ip.net) 13.56.59 # i have a little problem with my h300: the battery is empty, and as i forgot the charger again i would like to charge via usb. when i start the box by pluggin in usb, the rb bootloader comes, shows a battery warning, and then the iriver firmware starts, but reboots before the menu comes. 13.58.10 # markun: do you think the entries in the debug menu really need fixing as it's not really part of the final release? 13.58.20 # rockbox does not charge via usb (yet), does it? 13.58.59 # markun: for 3.0 release that is! 13.59.02 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p54933871.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.01.23 # B4gder: does developer status in flyspray mean I have CVS access? 14.01.35 # nope 14.01.36 # no AFAIK 14.01.37 # Mmmm: My vote would be to ignore the debug screens - they're clearly marked "keep out" :) 14.01.52 # I agree 14.02.09 # ok..that'll make things a lot easier! :) 14.02.19 # "KEEP OUT!" "mmmm... must.. resist.. clicking.." 14.02.37 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.08.30 # is there an mp3-player with wireless connectivity yet out there? 14.08.39 # excluding cell phones 14.13.17 # Mmmm: no, I don't think so 14.13.48 # ok.. just wondering! :) 14.14.00 # But it would be nice if you could at least get out of it with the remote control 14.14.25 # Even if you don't show anything on the remote screen (like 'no remote support' or something) 14.15.22 # don't a worry... it's all in hand :) although typing FOR_NB_SCREENS and screens[i]. over and over again is getting a bit waring! 14.17.22 # I'll look at them maybe after ive finished the others... 14.20.02 Join ryran [0] (n=ryran@rrcs-70-60-124-144.midsouth.biz.rr.com) 14.20.07 # woo woo 14.20.52 # Mmmm: thanks 14.21.29 # if the remote is done, then we need proper voice playback and langv2 fixes 14.23.22 Quit XavierGr ("One firmware to rule them all!") 14.23.26 Nick Sanitr is now known as [San] (n=San@A-112-152.cust.iol.ie) 14.24.53 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-128-117.pools.arcor-ip.net) 14.29.15 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3079.gwdg.de) 14.35.03 # I know its cheeky but could someone commit this small change..It'll make my life a bit easier! :) http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5615 14.38.04 # or ill have to add a comment in each patch that says this must be applied first - very messy and a pain for me adding and subtracting this each time it's needed 14.40.48 # B4gder: what do you think? 14.42.03 Join petur [0] (n=d4efd6a6@labb.contactor.se) 14.42.15 # Petur! 14.42.35 # I don't suppose you fancy doing a tiny commit for me? 14.43.03 # sure, in a few hours.... *maybe* tonight I have time :\ 14.43.18 # ok.. did you look at it? 14.43.24 # its very small! 14.44.22 # it is 14.44.27 # :) 14.45.10 Join bitshift- [0] (i=bitshift@CPE000c6e94cf09-CM001225d870de.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 14.45.21 # does that mean that settings are not accessible by remote at the moment? 14.45.21 Quit bitshift (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.46.57 # and why (CONFIG_KEYPAD == IRIVER_H300_PAD) around remote key defs? 14.47.00 # Yes, some types anyway...The ones that aren't supported yet! :P 14.47.54 # I've just copied that from other places could I put H300_REMOTE ? 14.48.11 # don't know that part of the code 14.48.36 # it comes up all over the place when the remote keys are defined! 14.49.12 # (so you can use the remote with h300s) 14.49.13 # oh, is that to define those keys for a h100 remote on an h300? 14.49.19 # yes! 14.49.22 # ah 14.49.35 # * petur hears some coins drop on the floor 14.49.39 # :D 14.50.18 # Well I'll look at it tonight if nobody did before me 14.50.29 # ok...cheers! :) 14.50.44 # So what definitions are used for a H300 remote? 14.51.03 # there are none that ive come across! 14.51.16 # I assume they just use the H100 defs 14.51.36 # we need a dev that has all three remotes and two players ;) 14.51.52 # 3 remotes? 14.51.58 # I have one remote and one player (both h100)... 14.52.20 # h300 remote with or without an lcd. 14.52.21 # good start linuxstb! :D 14.52.29 # ahh! 14.52.49 # I have h100 lcd remote and h340 14.53.16 Join Daishi [0] (n=daishi@ool-45703854.dyn.optonline.net) 14.53.50 # Ihave 2 h100 remotes and an H140...doesnt help though....what is an H300 remote like? does it have the same buttons? 14.54.18 # my h120 remote is slightly broken ;(, I guess they don't sell those anymore? 14.54.25 # (are more recent ones compatible?) 14.55.35 # they should all be compatible afaik 14.56.00 # Quote from the forum "the iRiver H300 LCD Remote buttons are bugged in the CVS, but are fixed with a patch already in Flyspray." 14.57.05 # The problem is testing if you don't have such a remote, and I hate 'blind commit' (ie without testing) 14.58.28 # Good point...I'll ignore all that then...we should leave it as just (CONFIG_KEYPAD == IRIVER_H300_PAD) till we know better eh? 14.59.18 # Flux: in australia JB HiFi was selling surplus remotes (actually from iMP550 but compatible) for $50 each. 14.59.41 # flux: also available on ebay.. 15.01.51 Quit B4gder ("time to say moo") 15.01.57 # well.. the iriver ones cost 29EUR + shipping. 15.04.53 # shipping 23 EUR :) 15.08.21 Join lodesi [0] (n=lds@d01m-195-36-151-146.d4.club-internet.fr) 15.09.05 Join x1jmp [0] (n=x1jmp@p549F4BC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.09.33 # iMP550 is another iriver player (CD based) with essentially identical remote as H100. 15.10.27 Quit crashd (Remote closed the connection) 15.10.29 # how can I use the led() function inside of a plugin? 15.12.01 # You'll need to add it to the plugin API - see apps/plugin.[ch] 15.15.04 # a swiss API :p 15.19.37 Join SereR0kR [0] (n=Fletcher@Fd041.f.strato-dslnet.de) 15.21.01 Join Polo_O [0] (n=polo_o@82-69-160-166.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) 15.27.35 # hey guys.. are there any known issues with people being unable to get dircache to initialize? 15.28.05 # I know tagcache can be troublesome, but I've never heard about issues with dircache. 15.28.45 # when I first installed rockbox on my ipod I enabled it, but given that it was my first time using that feature I had no idea what to expect 15.28.50 # I forgot about it. 15.29.11 # then I read some stuff about it the other day and realized that MY rockbox was not performing as if it had dircache enabled 15.29.25 # somehow, I got it to start.. and it was working for a couple days 15.29.39 # but after getting a new build ... now it's not 15.30.03 # and of course I re-enabled it and have tried rebooting multiple times 15.30.08 # it never scans when I boot up though 15.31.23 # ugh. I just did it the third time and it scanned the disk 15.31.30 Quit SereRokR (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.31.47 # don't know what to make of that... 15.34.30 Quit akaias (Success) 15.35.52 Join MrMarshall [0] (n=aa@adsl-ull-60-76.41-151.net24.it) 15.42.02 Quit MrMarshall ("..:: AzzurraNet Script ::..") 15.42.40 # Ihave completed remote support for rockbox info page http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5616 ... just need that tiny patch committed..(pleeeease anybody?) 15.43.14 # (http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5615) 15.48.29 Join spiorf_ [0] (n=spiorf@host213-138.pool8250.interbusiness.it) 15.48.31 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host213-138.pool8250.interbusiness.it) 15.48.31 Quit spiorf_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.49.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.00.25 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp153-53.adsl.forthnet.gr) 16.02.55 Quit Mmmm ("Byeee") 16.12.29 Join hardeep [0] (n=hardeep@c-71-202-85-199.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 16.16.37 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=stephan@dslb-084-056-080-241.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.16.40 Join webguest91 [0] (n=5242422e@labb.contactor.se) 16.16.50 Quit webguest91 (Client Quit) 16.17.43 Quit muesli|delhi ("ich will Kühe!!!") 16.17.52 Quit wehn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.18.36 Quit theli_ua ("by all") 16.24.06 Part JdGordon 16.24.19 Quit Kohlrabi ("Hello my name is CoolClonk .") 16.36.48 # lostlogic: around? 16.43.53 Quit x1jmp (Remote closed the connection) 16.44.14 Join lowlight [0] (n=c730180b@labb.contactor.se) 16.44.21 # lostlogic: is there any downside to always initializing voice in the playback code instead of only when the voice file is loaded? the problem reported on flyspray happens when there's no voice file but talk clips exist... 16.49.04 # Any viewer.c experts here? I found a bug. 16.58.05 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.02.48 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 17.05.07 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3022.gwdg.de) 17.10.39 Quit Ribs (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.11.36 Join Ribs [0] (n=ribs@riblet.plus.com) 17.14.59 Quit PaulJam (".") 17.24.27 Quit ryran ("hasta la pasta!") 17.24.39 Join [1]toxicfume [0] (n=bulah@ppp-58.8.1.104.revip2.asianet.co.th) 17.26.15 Join akaias [0] (n=akaias@c-71-57-61-189.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 17.27.56 # can i charge my h300 somehow when it's almost completly empty and i have only a usb connection to charge it? 17.29.05 Join DD_away [0] (n=drippydo@ACD12107.ipt.aol.com) 17.30.14 # Lynx_: I think it's best to use iriver firmware and configure it to be connected to a powered hub 17.30.40 # petur: yes, but when i start it, it starts loading the iriver firmware and then reboots to the rockbox bootloader again 17.31.09 # does the iriver firmware not start when battery is too low and the charger is not connected, only usb? 17.31.10 # oh, battery is _that_ low.... 17.31.38 # well, it just ran out of battery when i was listening to music normally. mabye rockbox allows it to go down a little too far 17.32.14 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-128-117.pools.arcor-ip.net) 17.32.24 # can you boot into rockbox and plug in the usb? 17.33.09 # if it was configured correctly in retailos it can draw power from usb I think 17.33.28 # ah, i did not know it could 17.33.35 # I'm not that up-to-date on the rb powerhandling however 17.33.36 # hmm, now it does not start anymore at all 17.33.51 Quit toxicfume (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.33.51 Nick [1]toxicfume is now known as toxicfume (n=bulah@ppp-58.8.1.104.revip2.asianet.co.th) 17.35.21 Quit hardeep ("Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]") 17.35.47 Part Polo_O 17.39.38 Join akaidiota [0] (n=not@1-1-6-23a.spa.sth.bostream.se) 17.42.54 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17.44.07 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp153-53.adsl.forthnet.gr) 17.45.40 Quit lowlight ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 17.47.35 Quit akaias (Connection timed out) 17.49.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.57.06 Quit akaidiot (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.57.33 Quit akaidiota (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.57.49 Join akaidiot [0] (n=not@84-217-92-27.tn.glocalnet.net) 18.01.55 Join akaidiota [0] (n=not@84-217-7-148.tn.glocalnet.net) 18.02.08 Quit linuxstb_ ("Client Exiting") 18.05.46 Quit petur ("home") 18.08.57 Quit akaidiota ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 18.10.32 Join Febs [0] (n=40be240f@labb.contactor.se) 18.17.32 Quit toxicfume (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.18.40 Quit akaidiot (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.30.49 Quit _FireFly_ ("Client exiting") 18.34.27 Join hardeep [0] (i=hardeeps@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG) 18.35.00 Quit dpro (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.38.36 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-25-216.austin.res.rr.com) 18.41.29 Join Paul_The_Ner1 [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-70-112-166-15.austin.res.rr.com) 18.45.56 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 18.48.43 Join Hansmaulwurf [0] (n=maerlyn@p5081CB32.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.52.03 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=stephan@dslb-084-056-117-176.pools.arcor-ip.net) 18.52.21 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 18.56.20 Join damaki__ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-16-241.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.57.28 Join akaidiot [0] (n=not@84-217-7-148.tn.glocalnet.net) 18.59.27 Join shamgar03 [0] (n=micahc@207.101.108.90) 18.59.49 Join Paul_The_Ner2 [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-25-216.austin.res.rr.com) 18.59.53 Quit Paul_The_Nerd (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.59.55 Quit shamgar03 (Client Quit) 19.00.31 Join shamgar03 [0] (n=micahc@207.101.108.90) 19.01.42 Quit shamgar03 (Client Quit) 19.02.06 Join shamgar [0] (n=micahc@207.101.108.90) 19.03.57 Quit Paul_The_Ner1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.04.22 Join Nilisco [0] (i=nilisco@nxpe.com) 19.06.33 Quit shamgar (Client Quit) 19.08.06 Join Zweiundvierzig [0] (n=r00t@dslb-084-057-083-025.pools.arcor-ip.net) 19.10.24 Join Sanitarium [0] (n=San@212.2.173.231) 19.11.53 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.21.07 Join dpro [0] (n=x@80-218-23-239.dclient.hispeed.ch) 19.22.27 Join webguest53 [0] (n=d457632e@labb.contactor.se) 19.22.38 # hi 19.22.51 # Hello 19.22.52 # how must i instal new firmware 19.22.57 Nick Paul_The_Ner2 is now known as Paul_The_Nerd (n=Paul_The@cpe-66-68-25-216.austin.res.rr.com) 19.23.02 # fo a iaudio x5 19.23.15 # Have you read the installation instructions at Rockbox.org? 19.23.24 # no 19.24.07 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IaudioBoot <-- Follow the steps here. Then extract (unzip) a daily build onto the root of your player. 19.25.01 # thanks 19.26.28 Quit apo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.26.54 Quit webguest53 (Client Quit) 19.26.58 Quit Ribs ("Leaving") 19.28.48 Quit [San] (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.29.04 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 19.29.05 Join XavierGr_ [0] (n=xavier@ppp162-182.adsl.forthnet.gr) 19.29.58 Quit idnar (Nick collision from services.) 19.30.02 Join idnar_ [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 19.31.05 Nick XavierGr_ is now known as XavierGr (n=xavier@ppp162-182.adsl.forthnet.gr) 19.31.06 Nick idnar_ is now known as idnar (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 19.31.55 Join egotrippen [0] (n=4616f0da@labb.contactor.se) 19.32.31 # i need some patching help 19.32.56 # i've got two patches that modify english.lang, and i can't get them both to apply 19.33.40 # what do i look for to fix one of the patches so it'll apply after the other one? 19.36.24 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 19.36.39 # You can just take the rejects from the second one and manually insert them... 19.39.02 # ok 19.39.21 # i think i got that going, testing it now 19.40.03 # it seems like it would be something easy, like just tell it another few lines down 19.40.03 Join [Loc] [0] (n=Nicholas@CPE-69-76-31-245.mn.res.rr.com) 19.40.20 # Yup 19.40.23 # but yeah, i'm pretty sure i got it going manually 19.40.34 # In the case of the lang files, at least, you should be able to just insert new strings. 19.41.32 # i changed the code of the second .patch file so it looked right, but i didn't mess with the line numbers 19.41.39 # and it told me 'malformed patch' 19.42.20 # * Paul_The_Nerd shrugs 19.42.21 # but yeah, this definately worked. it's past the part where it failed before 19.42.25 # Hehehe 19.42.54 # *sigh 19.43.04 # computers... there's always a simple solution 19.43.08 # but it's never the simplest one 19.44.06 # thanks. i'm pretty sure i'm at the point where i can't imagine more functionality i would need 19.44.14 Quit Genre9mp3 ("I don't suffer from Rockbox psychosis. I enjoy every minute of it.") 19.44.20 # H300 battery issue fixed, audioscrobbler support, and random album play 19.44.32 Quit XavierGr ("One firmware to rule them all!") 19.44.47 # my dap life is complete lol 19.45.55 # Hahaha 19.46.09 # Just wait, someone will have an idea, and you'll go "ooooooooh" 19.46.27 # haha 19.46.49 # well, within hardware limits... DivX video out would be nice 19.47.00 # hm.... 19.47.36 # i dunno. can't realy think of anything 19.47.44 # video on the little screen doesn't interest me 19.47.50 # Yeah 19.48.08 # even the games, like i used gameboy for about a month 19.48.10 # rockboy 19.48.37 # i dig FLAC support, and i don't think i could ever use another player without RB's playlisting 19.49.03 # Hehehe 19.49.34 # i was reading about... the Zen Vision M, or some other player like it 19.49.37 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 19.49.44 # reading about the playlisting support 19.49.46 Quit mikearthur (Remote closed the connection) 19.49.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.50.02 # it just..... ugh. it's useless 19.50.05 # haha 19.50.25 # 've been spoiled 19.51.47 # Yeah, Rockbox has that effect 19.52.09 # mm 19.52.33 # i have the H100 LCD remote 19.52.38 # i never even use it anymore 19.52.55 # like its main function was to make up for the lack of playlisting 19.54.32 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 19.55.02 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 19.55.29 # ah, one thing 19.55.40 # a bootloader that doesn't turn on iriver fw when plugged into AC 19.56.09 # That's planned for the next version of the bootloader I believe 19.56.21 # yeah, i think so 19.56.42 # the release todo says 'bootloader relase,' and that seems like the last loose end 19.57.25 # Well I think there's a few other tweaks relating to the USB code in the bootloader as well 19.57.44 # ah 19.57.56 # * Paul_The_Nerd isn't really sure 19.58.11 # i forgot, there have been a bunch of reports of bootloader USB not working 19.58.44 Join Nova-A001 [0] (n=verbular@82-44-47-238.stb.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk) 20.00.17 # i'm glad there are people wlling to figure these things out 20.00.45 # i'd just get kind of annoyed if code worked one some players of a model, but not others 20.02.03 # you could always code it for your own model.. :) 20.02.13 # haha 20.02.19 # i'm surprised people don't, kind of 20.02.27 # "well, it works for me, buddy" 20.02.32 Join mattl [0] (i=mattl@gnu/webmaster/mattl) 20.02.33 # haha. 20.02.40 # hey.. 20.02.53 # they've got more patience than i 20.02.55 # hey 20.02.56 # * midkay waves 20.03.24 # my iPod is dead.. if I'm going to buy a new player, what's the best one to buy to run Rockbox? 20.03.45 Quit mikearthur ("Konversation terminated!") 20.03.47 # Depends on what features you decree are "necessary" 20.03.55 # how much storage do you need? color LCD? player size? price? 20.04.17 # i think the word is video ipod, H300, or H100 20.04.49 # H100 for recording and sound quality, 5g ipod for video and tv-out under apple firmware 20.04.55 # well, my iPod was a 60gb Photo. I'd like something similar. 20.05.16 # egotrippen: would that require me to use the proprietary apple firmware though? 20.05.17 # you might like the 5G ipod.. you'd be familiar with the controls, it's physically smaller and has a larger LCD, though. 20.05.35 # rockbox is out for the 5g 20.05.45 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 20.05.51 # for video functions you'd have to boot the apple fw, but that's relatively quick 20.05.57 # yes, the apple firmware is the only thing that really lets you play videos on it at the moment.. but it's very nice for what it does.. H.264 and mpeg-4 video. 20.06.05 # on my H300, iriver firmware booting takes a good 25 seconds 20.06.09 # not really that interested in video, tbh. 20.06.17 # what license is Rockbox under? 20.06.30 # * mattl can't find it on the website 20.06.34 # gpl. 20.06.42 # midkay: w00t. 20.06.58 # indeed! 20.07.13 # besides the video, the apple 5g has good HD space for the price 20.07.20 # so it really depends on what's necessary and what you'd like to have. 20.07.29 # feature wise, the H300 is a little batter and the H100 is a lot better 20.07.32 Join Sinbios [0] (n=Sinbios@toronto-HSE-ppp4069593.sympatico.ca) 20.07.52 # would i run an Apple 5g without running the apple firmware? i think i'll be able to get that on my insurance from the iPod Photo. 20.07.54 # irivers can record, i also think they both have FM radio.. 20.08.12 # right, FM radio 20.08.13 # i don't want to run any proprietary firmware, if i can avoid it. 20.08.28 # under rockbox they can record from FM, and they have built in microphones 20.08.37 # mattl, if you don't need video, sure.. audio playback's pretty stable by now, everything's working rather well.. except voice, but that's probably not necessary for you.. 20.09.13 # for iriver H300, you'd only need stock firmware to watch video or record to MP3 20.09.18 # mattl, beware battery life - maybe only around 8 hours with rockbox. some optimization needs to be done.. that's plenty for many people, don't know if it is for you. 20.09.29 # for apple 5g, you'd only need stock firmware to watch video or use TV out 20.09.48 # midkay: 8 hours will be plenty. i guess Ogg Vorbis would lower that a little further. 20.10.00 # mattl, not that much, actually. :) 20.10.03 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/viewauth/Main/IpodRuntime 20.10.06 # ooh. 20.10.16 # ah, one test says 10h ogg.. 20.10.29 # oh. it uses the 64mb buffer mod. yeah. 20.10.38 # that's if you get the 60GB version. 20.11.08 # 30GB versions only have 32MB RAM, and rockbox will take advantage of that out-of-the, er.. zip. :) 20.11.41 # if you're not interested in video, recording, or FM radio, the H300 and the 5g ipod are very very similar 20.12.20 # he said he can probably get a 5G for an exchange, so.. 20.12.21 # the 5g ipod has an edge in HD size, form factor, and screen size 20.12.45 # yeah 20.12.53 # i'd definately go for that, then 20.13.20 # mattl, well, i've got a 5G myself, by the way, if you had any specific questions. 20.14.01 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3118.gwdg.de) 20.15.17 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ppp188-240.adsl.forthnet.gr) 20.16.56 Join ryran [0] (n=ryran@rrcs-70-60-124-144.midsouth.biz.rr.com) 20.17.03 # midkay: thanks 20.18.12 # np. 20.18.54 # i'm really glad Rockbox is out... i need a GPL licensed player. 20.19.11 Nick [Loc] is now known as Loc|out (n=Nicholas@CPE-69-76-31-245.mn.res.rr.com) 20.19.16 # yep.. we're [nearly] one-of-a-kind :) 20.19.50 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 20.19.51 Join xmixahlx [0] (n=xmixahlx@64.122.111.98) 20.24.48 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=5343d4aa@labb.contactor.se) 20.25.10 Quit damaki__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.25.25 Quit bam_ ("Leaving") 20.25.58 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-16-241.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 20.26.01 Join bam_ [0] (n=bam@pool-71-108-99-77.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 20.26.54 Join muesli__ [0] (n=muesli_t@203.187.240.141) 20.32.50 Quit egotrippen ("CGI:IRC") 20.37.19 Quit DD_away (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.40.30 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 20.42.37 # midkay: only nearly? heh. 20.42.44 Quit Bg3r (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.42.58 # mattl, haha. 20.44.36 # midkay: whois me. you'll see why. 20.44.38 Quit akaidiot ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 20.45.02 # i noticed when you joined. :) 20.47.16 # aha. off to the pub now. 20.47.24 # laters. :) 20.47.30 Quit mattl ("pub") 20.55.08 Join RedBreva [0] (n=chatzill@host217-42-183-128.range217-42.btcentralplus.com) 21.02.08 Join webguest24 [0] (n=51400b8c@labb.contactor.se) 21.02.53 Join Moos [0] (n=51400b8c@labb.contactor.se) 21.02.53 Quit webguest24 (Client Quit) 21.04.00 # Helo here ! 21.05.17 # long time that I didn't check how Rockbox goes, nothing new in regard to the release? 21.07.00 # moos! :) 21.07.28 # battery life issue has been solved, now we're just waiting on voice i think. 21.07.35 # maybe a couple playback things too. 21.09.01 # Yeah 21.09.03 # Playback freezes 21.09.48 # .. rarely, i hope.. :) 21.10.03 # Not during normal use, but most of the freezes seem to be reproduceable. 21.10.33 # that's good. 21.10.52 # oh ok :( 21.11.06 # hi midkay and Paul btw 21.11.09 Quit ryran ("hasta la pasta!") 21.11.17 # i guess rockbox can't do bin+cue? 21.11.20 # ... or can it? 21.11.25 # no, chendo. 21.12.40 # bbi15 or 20mins 21.13.08 # kk 21.14.27 Join bluebrother [0] (n=810dba04@labb.contactor.se) 21.15.30 # bye all 21.15.31 Quit bam_ (Remote closed the connection) 21.15.37 Quit Moos ("CGI:IRC") 21.16.22 Join bam_ [0] (n=bam@pool-71-108-99-77.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 21.16.52 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54965666.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.18.51 Quit Loc|out (Connection timed out) 21.19.07 Join jbauman [0] (n=Johnq@66.216.165.90.dynamic.dejazzd.com) 21.22.47 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@mrbg-d9b9538f.pool.mediaWays.net) 21.25.06 Quit Rondom (Client Quit) 21.26.56 Join jborn_ [0] (n=jborn@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 21.28.42 Quit muesli__ ("ich will Kühe!!!") 21.32.48 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 21.33.20 Join [San] [0] (n=San@213-202-169-179.bas503.dsl.esat.net) 21.35.55 # good-day everyone. 21.36.59 # which ipods can be used as usb masters? 21.37.10 Quit Nilisco (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.37.47 Join akaidiot [0] (n=not@84-217-7-148.tn.glocalnet.net) 21.39.23 # preglow: At least the iPod Photo and iPod Video can, I believe, be hooked up to cameras. 21.40.00 # The PortalPlayer chip has the integrated USB controller right? Which would mean any that use the same as either of those? 21.43.56 Quit JBorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.43.59 Quit Sinbios ("If the definition of a klutz is someone who doesn't have eyes on their ass, then yes, I suppose I am a klutz.") 21.44.36 # god, i hate RETARD camera companies that can't just support standards 21.44.52 # like canon 21.49.03 Join actionshrimp [0] (n=nn@host86-142-223-227.range86-142.btcentralplus.com) 21.49.26 Quit Sanitarium (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.49.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.52.09 # howdy 21.53.12 # hi... 21.54.51 Join DD_away [0] (n=drippydo@ACD5B33B.ipt.aol.com) 22.01.29 Join Nilisco [0] (i=nilisco@nxpe.com) 22.02.27 # Paul_The_Nerd: did portalplayer ever answer, btw? 22.05.48 # preglow: No such luck. Nothing at all, not even a "Sorry, but no." 22.06.36 # they're probably too busy sacking staff to answer 22.06.59 # I probably emailed someone who doesn't exist any more. ;) 22.12.57 Quit Hansmaulwurf ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 22.15.11 Quit Rob2222 () 22.16.36 # Paul_The_Nerd: up for a wager on which one of us correctly diagnosed mitchellknell's problem with 10,000 songs in a playlist? 22.16.46 # (just trying to keep things interesting) 22.16.49 # :) 22.17.17 # Febs: It's too late. You did it 22.17.29 # Yeah, I just saw that. 22.17.57 # Yours was the most likely but I'm always surprised how many people dump all their songs in one folder. 22.18.04 # That's OK, I cheated anyway by testing to see if a restart is needed after changing max playlist size. (it is). 22.18.57 # It would not have surprised me one bit if he did have 13,000 songs in a single folder. 22.19.27 # Well, I knew the restarts were necessary, but I figured since you'd covered that angle, I'd throw in some alternatives if yours didn't work. 22.19.56 # * petur spots Linus in the forums 22.21.40 # Febs: I can't imagine even having 13,000 songs, let alone all in one folder. 22.22.25 Quit bluebrother ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.22.59 # 13k songs in one folder????+ 22.23.13 # that's insane 22.23.37 # preglow: it turned out that they weren't all in one folder. 22.23.37 # preglow: It wasn't the case with this person. But I've seen people report having all their songs in one folder before, and complain about the 10,000 limit. 22.23.47 # * preglow vomits 22.25.39 # Those are usually the people that can't find the folder on their player named "Root." 22.26.11 # you mean 'route' 22.26.59 # Ha ha! 22.27.02 # * Paul_The_Nerd sighs at the use of "Rockbocks" "Rocksbocks" in a forum with the "Rockbox" logo all over it. 22.27.33 # I'm sorry but it's a little crazy to see something not only spell a word wrong, but a different way each time in his posts. (This applies to other more common words as well.) 22.27.35 # That sad part about that thread, petur, was that you bolded the word "root" and he still didn't get it. 22.27.48 # ;) 22.28.06 # rockbox do EAC? 22.28.15 # eh? 22.28.29 # EAC = pc app 22.28.50 # well can rockbox read the files output by that? ;x 22.29.04 # The files output by EAC are .wav files, so yes. 22.29.19 # EAC can output WAV or whatever compressor you attach to it 22.29.31 # mmk 22.29.57 Join toxicfume [0] (n=bulah@ppp-58.8.1.104.revip2.asianet.co.th) 22.30.00 # * petur recommends EAC for CD ripping (but *not* in burst mode) 22.30.01 # mmk? 22.30.14 Part Nova-A001 ("t(_ _t)") 22.30.38 Join Mmmm [0] (n=mscarrat@cpc1-hem13-0-0-cust634.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 22.30.56 # mmk = mm, okay 22.31.31 # Ahh, I see. 22.31.44 # * Febs doesn't speak "l337." 22.32.15 # Hahaha 22.32.25 # * linuxstb grumbles about kids today... 22.32.32 # * Paul_The_Nerd shakes his cane at them. 22.32.34 # <[San]> anyone hear about the europe code jam by google? 22.32.42 # as if 'mmk' is anywhere close to leet 22.32.53 # code jam? 22.33.01 # <[San]> http://www.topcoder.com/pl/?module=Static&d1=gecj06&d2=overview 22.33.06 # summer of code ? 22.33.08 # i mean, it could be /\/\/\/\|<, but no ;p 22.33.12 # <[San]> twas held in dublni 22.33.15 # <[San]> *dublin 22.33.20 # <[San]> 30000 prize 22.33.31 # <[San]> tought some of you guys might have enterd 22.33.32 # <[San]> ;-) 22.34.05 # * petur sees 'java' and runs fast *very fast* 22.34.27 # Coffee... 22.34.39 # * Paul_The_Nerd has been to Java a few times. 22.34.45 # Mmmmmmm. Coffee. 22.34.47 # * petur drinks tea 22.34.58 # * Paul_The_Nerd wonders what Sun's obsession with Indonesia is with their "Java" and their "Jakarta" and all that jazz. 22.35.03 # * Febs heads down to the coffee shop in the lobby. 22.35.10 # * linuxstb has written zero lines of Java in his life. 22.35.40 # * petur notes what 'Coffee shop' means in The Netherlands ;) 22.35.43 # I've converted Java to PHP, but that's about it. 22.36.04 # * linuxstb will be in Amsterdam next weekend... 22.38.05 # * Febs just Googled "coffee shop Netherlands." 22.38.40 # <[San]> hehe 22.40.05 Quit bam_ ("Leaving") 22.43.25 Quit _FireFly_ ("Client exiting") 22.48.35 Join lowlight [0] (n=c730180a@labb.contactor.se) 22.48.45 # merbanan: very interesting mi4 development here 22.49.15 # I got a mail from a guy claiming to have it figured out for the h10 case 22.49.51 Quit lowlight (Client Quit) 22.55.12 # Bagder: any details ? 22.55.45 # Paul_The_Nerd: Jakarta is Apache not Sun 22.55.53 # not yet, I'm busy doing work for a while more but the guy mostly told me this and include a few details but not the actual code yet 22.56.16 # he says he can decrypt/encrypt the mi4 for h10 22.56.24 # * preglow will be in england next weekend 22.57.18 Join lowlight [0] (n=c730180a@labb.contactor.se) 22.58.49 # * petur suspects preglow will be in pubs most of the time :p 22.59.30 Quit DD_away ("Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]") 22.59.56 # word 23.00.05 # inside them, and walking around to find new ones 23.00.07 # idnar: Fair enough 23.02.41 # Can someone test this to see if rockbox locks up...view a text file where the first line is empty (return). 23.03.03 # Locked my h140 up for an hour this morning with no paper clip in sight. 23.03.32 # I found it locks up the sim as well. 23.06.47 # lowlight: the same happens it the first character is a space 23.06.50 # * preglow thinks he'll sum up his own experiences in a "five hundred ways to reset a h1x0" document 23.07.14 Quit jborn_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.07.36 # Hahaha 23.08.45 # * linuxstb contributes the ear-ring method 23.09.07 # to date, i've reset it with twigs, gravel, a chocolate wrapper, a cigarette filter and a candle 23.09.10 # hahaha 23.09.17 # the last two are not recommended 23.09.20 # candle? 23.09.26 # well, the wick of one at any rate :> 23.09.41 # or however that's spelled 23.09.56 # Like that. 23.10.06 # then hooray, never written it before 23.12.23 # for me, rockbox almost always locks when on my way to the train 23.12.33 # and i'm too stupid to carry a pin around with me 23.13.04 Part Paul_The_Nerd 23.13.06 # haha, I guess I wasn't resourceful enough 23.13.19 Quit dpro (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.17.00 # one time it locked up approximately ten seconds after going out the door on my way to an hour long train ride 23.17.56 Quit RedBreva ("Time for Tubby ByeBye") 23.18.21 # I had it lock up leaving on my bike from work, went back inside for a paperclip and got laughed at by coworkers :/ 23.18.47 # hahah 23.19.14 # ruined my chances of converting their ipods to rockbox 23.19.31 # :-) 23.19.53 # *cough* I need it to keep my papers together! 23.21.29 # * linuxstb doesn't understand a word of viewer.c 23.22.05 # It appears that the viewer enters an endless loop in viewer.c line 696. 23.22.14 # Yes, I've just found that as well. 23.22.26 # anyone got any experiences with haskell? 23.22.26 Quit Mmmm ("Byeee") 23.26.36 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@dsl-88-218-17-158.customers.vivodi.gr) 23.34.55 # preglow: you may take that as a 'no' ;-) 23.35.28 # linuxstb: I don't understand the logic in viewer.c, but it appears that in line 927 in init_need_scrollbar needs to be moved after the initialization of the draw_columns variable. 23.35.37 # I did program in ML about 13 years ago, but have sadly forgotten everything. 23.36.12 # It seems to fix the problem. 23.37.10 Quit Nilisco (Connection timed out) 23.39.02 # later 23.39.04 Part lowlight 23.39.30 # Oh, he's gone. I was about to say that his bugfix looks good to me. 23.39.43 Quit MarcoPolo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.42.43 # * petur curses at some drunk students ringing his doorbell 23.43.01 # petur: open a window and yell "KE KE KE KE KE KE KIEK" at them 23.43.20 # yell what? 23.43.35 # that :> 23.44.06 # korean laughing style 23.44.25 # they would probably kick in a window and run 23.45.11 # summer gives me a double feeling: I hate the heat but all the students go home so it's nice and quit 23.45.23 Join rotator [0] (n=e@rockbox/developer/rotator) 23.45.29 # * petur lives 200m from a uni 23.45.32 # hate the heat??? 23.45.48 # 30 deg celcius sunday :( 23.46.01 # oh, there was a couple of days with that some weeks ago 23.46.03 # it was heaven 23.46.10 # hell 23.47.33 # i see we differ on some key points 23.47.44 # :D 23.48.41 # * petur was about to say 'we should swap country' but then started thinking about a nice beer :p 23.49.05 # oh, i'm okay about that 23.50.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.54.06 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@67-40-198-98.tukw.qwest.net) 23.55.55 Quit Febs ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.56.37 Quit Kohlrabi (Nick collision from services.) 23.56.47 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-128-117.pools.arcor-ip.net)