--- Log for 05.07.106 Server: clarke.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 3 days and 18 hours ago 00.02.48 Quit vzabalza ("Leaving") 00.04.56 Join lodesi [0] (n=lds@d02m-213-44-186-30.d4.club-internet.fr) 00.07.12 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.11.08 # is there a way to config the buttons of rockbox so it acts like ipod navigation? 00.13.39 # Button reconfiguration requires you to change the source code and recompile the firmware. 00.13.47 # :( k 00.17.20 # Mult|PaSs: What would you want to change? 00.17.42 # i like rockbox better in all ways except the button config 00.18.01 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-15-30.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) 00.18.04 # MENU is back.. that was easy :) 00.18.20 # MENU brings up the menu... What other key would you use for that? 00.18.51 Quit lds__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.18.52 # <|apo|> linuxstb: Why, the Big Red Button of course. 00.18.58 # Learning the rockbox button mapping is not too hard... 00.19.31 # why do I need the menu? its got the settings and playlists. (dont use playlists 00.19.39 # yay - three reboots later it finally found all my new folders! 00.19.51 # I just want the menu to be the 'back' button like originally is 00.20.21 Join TCK [0] (i=TCK@81-178-209-51.dsl.pipex.com) 00.22.20 Quit lightyear (Remote closed the connection) 00.22.21 # I upped the maximum # of folders to 600 (I only have 575), and turned off the cache, rebooted, yet it still didn't display all my new folders. rebooted twice more and there they were. 00.22.39 # Mult|PaSs: Remember also that Rockbox runs on a large number of DAPs from various different manufacturers - the aim is not to mimic one particular DAP's original firmware, but to provide a consistent interface across all DAPs. 00.23.31 # true. But a configger with a gui would be nice. But I will survive 00.23.43 # thanx for making rockbox btw.. if there are coders in here :) 00.24.22 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 00.24.22 # * preglow falls asleep 00.24.45 # Mult|PaSs: honestly, I think it's more intuitive to have "left" as back instead of menu 00.26.08 # I agree it is more logical, but more intuitive after years of ipoding??? 00.27.49 # Nah 00.27.53 # Probably not :) 00.28.12 # To be honest, I never tried playing anything back using the ipod fw 00.29.39 # It's not bad, but i am so used to browing the directory tree. 00.30.14 # my albums not being sorted by artist, but not year of release kills me. 00.30.26 # (scratch the first "not") 00.30.39 # Tag cache to the rescue? 00.30.46 Join Zagor [0] (n=bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 00.31.37 # I really dont understand how you can use the original apple software and enjoy 500 albums! 00.31.46 # Unless you make a playlist from every album 00.32.08 # nah, directory tree is good enough. Mine folders are all - - 00.32.16 # *my 00.32.16 # that is what i like so much about rockbox. It works like Explorer. From A-Z 00.32.27 # S0ap: Yeah, I'm too a directory tree person.... 00.32.43 # Artist - Album (year) 00.32.47 # Mijn Artist - Album/Trck - Artist - Title.mp3 00.32.50 Nick midkay_ is now known as midkay (n=midkay@67-40-198-98.tukw.qwest.net) 00.32.52 # Year is in tag :) 00.33.17 # artist/year-album/track.flac 00.33.18 # Artist - Album (year)/01. Title.mp3 00.33.27 # way! flac! 00.33.31 # what is a Good font to use? my dad cant read rockbox font :))) 00.33.40 # the ipod native FW and VA albums don't get along. I have only a couple of dozen VAs, but they pollute the "Artist" view on the ipod. 00.34.02 # soap yeah 00.34.04 # man I hate that 00.34.12 # you end up with 8000 artists 00.34.17 # exactly. 00.34.18 # while you only know 200 00.34.24 # 7800 are from crappy VA's 00.34.31 # one day 'hit' wonders :) 00.34.33 # Moving is a bad thing when you realize you don't have a slightest idea where the SecureDigital chips are and you need them tomorrow... 00.34.45 # That annoyed me as well - even albums with guest performers on certain tracks give a whole new artist 00.35.03 Join timemob [0] (n=timemob@pp009437.brew.ne.jp) 00.35.12 # lol 00.35.14 # native FW is a laugh.. 00.35.48 # really dont understand why ppl love it.. When you choose ALBUM, you only get album names! Like you know every single album name of every artist 00.36.10 # so i plugged my nano to usb to charge for a few hours then powered that pc off. 00.36.17 # And you get ZZ-top maybe first because the album starts with an A 00.36.30 # this morning i gota dead batt 00.37.04 # gg rockbox devs 00.38.39 # da fuq is album? 00.39.08 # all my mp3s are named as crc32.mp3 00.39.15 # lol 00.39.18 # u got issues 00.39.20 # in one dir 00.41.01 # now playing: 38B04F51.MP3 00.42.15 # Mult|PaSs, hm, instead of browsing by ALL albums what would you propose? 00.42.18 # rockbox needs autorename to crc32 function 00.42.37 # if you browse by album of course you should be able to.. gasp.. view a list of all albums. 00.42.40 Join JoeyBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@cpe-66-87-126-135.il.sprintbbd.net) 00.42.42 # otherwise you wouldn't be using that mode. 00.42.53 # yes of course 00.42.55 # hy 00.43.02 # but you dont know what artist it is 00.43.10 # so why not ALBUM - ARTIST 00.43.15 # and? if you know the album, it doesn't matter what the artist is.. 00.43.19 # status of implementing crc32 in rockbox 00.43.22 # why not then just browse by artist? much quicker. 00.43.34 # dude when you got 400 cd's you dont now all the names 00.43.39 # then use the ARTIST mode, huh? 00.43.51 # that sux more because all the VA ppl are in the list to 00.43.52 # :) 00.44.06 # when you do happen to know the album name then album mode might be useful, but it's not meant to be the primary browsing mode. 00.44.53 Quit ender` (" “That’s right, babe,” Cochrane chortled. “We’re not possessors, we’re just like dimensionally disadvantaged.” -- Peter F. Ha) 00.45.37 # i want rockbox to have function to calc crc32 of mp3 then rename to crc32.mp3 plz 00.45.44 # listening to vivaldi's III Presto :) 00.45.53 # lol timemob.. just clean your ipod and put it all back on 00.46.17 # why 00.46.28 # how does that help 00.47.08 # i want all my mp3s to be 8.3 00.47.32 Quit Zagor ("Klienten avslutas") 00.48.09 # GREATE~1.MP3 00.49.11 # is dum but 1234ABCD.MP3 isnt 00.49.44 # why you want all 8.3 00.49.46 # .gh 00.49.46 # .gh 00.49.56 # has to be 00.50.29 # everything must be 8.3 00.50.33 # timemob: then either implement it yourself or find a dev that is interested in that function 00.50.55 # why don't you just rename the files on the pc? 00.51.23 # also i request rockbox.ipod to rename to ROCKBOX.IPO 00.52.12 # cuz thats the only other non-compliant file 00.52.24 # timemob: what about the .rockbox folder? 00.52.45 # oshi~ 00.52.59 # argh. trying to figure out how udev works.. anyone? 00.53.10 # lol udev 00.53.41 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.53.53 # got any problem with it? :p 00.54.04 # i want rename function on ipod to do it automatically 00.54.31 # now i calc crc32 and rename manually 00.55.08 Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=Investig@168.77.64.187) 00.55.20 # Those long summer evenings must just fly by... 00.55.57 # and i want dirname theyare in if any to be xor of crc32 of all files inside 00.56.31 # and i want a pony! 00.56.37 # a|b|c etc 00.56.48 # er ^ 00.57.03 # * obo thinks the pony is more likely to turn up 00.57.12 # a^b^c 00.57.41 # these guys at last.fm promised me one, but i never got it. 00.57.59 # is this best done by plugin or? 00.58.27 # menu in filebrowser? 00.59.09 # hi? 00.59.22 Quit JoeBorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.01.02 Quit qwm ("leaving") 01.01.30 Quit Mult|PaSs ("--==== FiFth eLeMeNt Rulez =====--") 01.01.45 # if rockbox had a lua scripting engine i could add this myself 01.02.08 # hah. 01.02.10 # a. 01.03.24 # so how to add crc32 renamer? 01.04.04 # timemob: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DevelopmentGuide 01.04.28 # yes but where 01.04.41 # in file manager? 01.04.47 # or plugin? 01.05.04 # or else..? 01.06.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.06.41 # <|apo|> timemob: PaulJam's telling you to make a plugin yourself. 01.06.49 # hello? 01.06.51 # <|apo|> If you don't know how, tough luck. 01.07.13 # i know lua 01.07.16 Quit petur ("here today, gone tomorrow") 01.07.24 Quit lodesi (Connection timed out) 01.07.26 # rockbox doesn't support or use lua in any way. 01.07.30 # does rockbox plugin in lua? 01.07.39 # oic 01.07.44 # why not 01.07.56 # because we don't need or want it. rockbox is written in C. 01.08.11 # i think it is your choice how to implement it. i doubt that it has a chance to get committed anyway. 01.08.29 # yeah, quite an.. esoteric plugin. 01.08.29 Quit scorche (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.08.41 Quit mikearthur (Remote closed the connection) 01.08.42 # why are you so sure 01.08.48 # so sure of what? 01.09.02 # who on earth wants to rename all their mp3s with their crcs? very few.. 01.09.14 # in fact, what is the point, may i ask? 01.09.26 # many people havent discovered the joy of 8.3 mp3s 01.09.35 # 8.3 mp3s? 01.09.51 # maybe some kind of brain training 01.09.53 # thats what it would rename to 01.09.55 # <|apo|> midkay: mp3s with 8 byte filenames and 3 byte extensions, I guess 01.10.01 # crc32.mp3 01.10.37 # timemob, well, i don't think you've discovered the lack-of-joy of them.. i really, really doubt you'll find a person in here who's remotely interested in that. 01.10.42 # like 1234ABCD.MP3 01.10.57 Quit Criamos ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 01.11.11 Join lodesi [0] (n=lds@d02m-89-83-200-171.d4.club-internet.fr) 01.12.11 # then i will have to do it myself 01.12.20 # gee, ya think? :) 01.12.53 # first you must add lua support though 01.13.06 # that's getting pretty old. 01.13.31 # you got linked to a guide, nobody cares about "8.3 mp3s", you're welcome to figure it out if you're so interested in randomly-named files. 01.13.56 # you just hate lua cuz its written by brazilian 01.14.00 # it would be nice to have a plugin that compares the crc of the audiodata in an mp3 with the music crc stored in the lame header. 01.14.04 # damn, how'd you know?! 01.14.54 Nick jd_ is now known as cadavre (n=jd@wikipedia/Meanos) 01.14.59 Nick cadavre is now known as jd_ (n=jd@wikipedia/Meanos) 01.15.30 # how can you add a crc to file without changing crc? 01.16.07 # "crc of the audiodata" 01.16.30 # midcay because racial hate for languages is common 01.17.07 # like people hate python cuz its by a spic 01.17.11 # brb 01.17.28 Part |AhIoRoS| 01.17.45 # <|apo|> [01:16:31] midcay because racial hate for languages is common < Yup 01.17.50 # <|apo|> I hate French, for example. 01.18.23 # midcay. haha. 01.18.41 # <|apo|> ^^ 01.18.51 # <|apo|> That guy's kinda funny 01.18.59 # really? 01.19.18 # <|apo|> Or it's just that I have a weird sense of humor :P 01.19.39 # i'll laugh at nearly anything, but this is just stupid.. 01.20.04 # <|apo|> True 01.21.11 Quit obo ("bye") 01.24.31 Join scorche [0] (n=scorche@208-110-158-188.customer.csolutions.net) 01.35.08 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC") 01.35.13 Quit lodesi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.39.00 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp154-234.adsl.forthnet.gr) 01.40.44 Join mantono [0] (n=mantono@c83-250-204-173.bredband.comhem.se) 01.42.30 Quit timemob (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.53.50 Join mantono^ [0] (n=anton@c83-250-204-173.bredband.comhem.se) 01.54.08 Part mantono^ ("Don't worry, be happy!") 02.07.15 Quit DarkJesus ("See yez") 02.08.44 Join wehn [0] (n=wehn@ppp122-121.lns1.bne3.internode.on.net) 02.29.28 Quit jd_ (Remote closed the connection) 02.30.06 # what the hell. 02.30.08 # the wiki's.. uh. 02.30.13 # weird. 02.31.00 Quit spiorf ("Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)") 02.38.36 Quit PaulJam (".") 02.40.15 # who's working on it? 02.46.07 # Zagor is... "15.28.05 # * Zagor is testing the new wiki version. Don't panic." ...see the log :) 02.47.44 # huh. 02.47.51 # weird. 02.48.00 # i've been here for.. hours.. it's not in my log. 02.48.16 # oh wow 02.48.19 # i like that CRC32 idea. 02.48.38 # how unexpected.. 02.48.57 # yesterday's log of course - it's almost 3am here 02.49.22 # it can't possibly have been here that long. 02.49.31 # i just checked it a couple hours ago at most and it was normal.. 02.50.04 # 22:28 * Zagor is testing the new wiki version. Don't panic. 02.50.28 # thanks for reiterating uselessly, per usual.. 02.59.20 # no problem 02.59.23 # just doing my part 03.01.08 # we appreciate it. 03.01.30 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 03.01.33 Part pixelma 03.06.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.18.19 Quit midkay ("Leaving") 03.20.56 Join OPP [0] (n=OPP@c-24-12-189-55.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 03.21.18 # hi i have a problem. i cant view the fonts part of rockbox on my ipod is that a problem or am i doing something wrong 03.23.08 # have you installed the fonts package? 03.23.35 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 03.25.31 # i thought so 03.27.04 # OPP: you are aware of that ROckbox doesn't come with the same default font as with Apples firmware? 03.27.55 # lol yes 03.28.01 # but i went into the font section 03.28.09 # ok 03.28.13 # i click on fonts 03.28.17 # and i see that its loading the menu 03.28.22 # then nothing happens 03.28.27 # i dont see any other font choices 03.28.39 # then you didnt install the fonts package. 03.28.44 # Okey 03.29.00 # i downloaded the 'latest fonts' from the daily buid section 03.29.08 # and put that in 03.29.12 # if thats what youre talking about 03.30.07 # wait i restarted and now it works 03.31.25 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-65-71-93-28.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 03.31.26 # Hehe, it always works when you ask someone for help ;) 03.32.27 # ya 03.32.29 # i guess 03.32.29 # ty 03.39.18 # hmm this is great 03.39.28 # giving a presentation in class and i need to play a song in FLAC 03.48.46 # record yourself over it and dub 03.50.29 # OPP: what iPod do you have? 03.55.39 Quit XavierGr () 03.56.47 Quit actionshrimp ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.01 :: www.XLhost.de )") 03.59.10 # 5g 03.59.17 Quit mantono ("leaving") 03.59.52 Quit Poka64 ("nite all") 04.00.10 # flac? i think about a total of 0 linux users in your classroom will be able to tell the difference btween your project playing in FLAC vs something INDUSTRY STANDARD like MP3. 04.01.02 # hah no 04.01.11 # hah yes 04.01.28 # no, thats not the circumstances 04.01.34 # i have a cd ripped in flac 04.01.58 # and i need to play a song from it 04.02.00 # in a history class 04.02.23 # yes but whats stopping you from just decoding flac to .wav and then encoding it to mp3. 04.02.33 # time 04.02.41 # OPP: you an't convert it before the class? 04.02.48 # i like flac :-D 04.10.23 Join Sinbios [0] (n=Sinbios@Kingston-HSE-ppp3561992.sympatico.ca) 04.14.00 Quit OPP () 04.15.12 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.15.32 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-66-141-168-191.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 04.35.50 Quit wehn () 05.03.12 Join Rob2222_ [0] (n=Miranda@ACAE6EC0.ipt.aol.com) 05.06.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.18.57 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05.22.47 Join akaias [0] (n=akaias@c-71-57-61-189.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 05.26.53 Quit TCK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.29.06 Join lukaswayne9 [0] (n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 05.30.20 # dongs, why flac->wav->mp3? 05.37.28 # midkay: flacs ARE wavs 05.37.38 # just losslessly compressed 05.37.42 # that's why I *ASKED* 05.37.45 # why he said convert to wav first. 05.37.54 # well, he meant decpmpress 05.37.59 # decompress.. why? 05.38.18 # because teh wav->mp3 converter may or may not recognize a flac 05.38.21 # he said decode, but.. yeah.. either way.. why? 05.38.34 # uh, why not just use a.. uh... flac->mp3 coverter? what an idea! 05.39.06 # midkay: that's against teh unix phiolospohy of one tool for each job, and a bunch or pipes 05.39.17 # one tool for each job? 05.39.26 # flac -> wav wav -> mp3 05.39.29 # is against one tool for each job. 05.39.36 # unflac < foo | lame > fopo.mp3 05.40.24 # that's two tools for one job. 05.40.52 # 2 jobs 05.41.04 # flac -> mp3 is one job. 05.41.12 # you're using two tools to accomplish it. 05.42.13 # earHertz, i don't think you've been around long enough to discover that dongs is the token channel idiot.. i just wanted to hear from him why he said that, thus why i addressed him in my message. 05.44.14 # midkay: no, I got that, from his arguing with OPPs. but even astoped clock is right twice a day 05.46.04 Join BHSPitLappy_ [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-65-71-93-28.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 05.46.44 Quit midkay (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.47.12 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 05.52.58 Quit Sinbios ("If the definition of a klutz is someone who doesn't have eyes on their ass, then yes, I suppose I am a klutz.") 05.55.40 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.00.23 Join Moos [0] (n=51400b8c@labb.contactor.se) 06.00.39 # Morning ! 06.01.31 # morning Moos :) 06.02.45 # earHertz, nah, he's not a stopped clock, he's a clock that's off time but still running normal speed indefinitely... never right. 06.02.45 # :) 06.05.12 # ;) 06.05.21 # :) 06.05.43 # SCORCHE! 06.06.00 # MIDKAY! 06.06.12 # :o 06.06.40 # start uploading the new map please =) 06.07.08 # haha. 06.07.08 # soon. 06.07.14 # why soon? 06.07.18 # i compiled it last night.. tried it.. cool but way too dark in the room.. 06.07.25 # literally *just* got out of another test. 06.07.26 # ah 06.07.36 # still a bit too dark, fixing that.. couple glitches to fix.. then sure, i'll recompil.e 06.07.37 # :) 06.08.30 # vent then 06.09.07 # then or now, huh?! 06.09.25 # now 06.09.31 Quit earHertz ("Chatzilla 0.9.72 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]") 06.09.53 # h/o h/o!! 06.16.48 Quit JoeyBorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.21.54 Quit Moos ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 06.27.28 Quit slarti (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.57.54 Join JoeBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 07.02.15 Join Sinbios [0] (n=Sinbios@Kingston-HSE-ppp3561992.sympatico.ca) 07.06.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.17.59 Quit BHSPitLappy_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.36.23 Quit lukaswayne9 ("Ex-Chat") 07.44.54 Join americo [0] (n=americo@62-14-122-178.inversas.jazztel.es) 07.45.25 # good morning everybody 07.56.32 Quit darkless (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.08.11 Join g0n [0] (n=c20b4f68@labb.contactor.se) 08.08.21 # hello all ^^ 08.09.08 # question: where i can find a nice doom version who works on my h340 ? :) 08.11.01 # g0n: well, you could install rockbox. It comes with doom. 08.11.13 # markun ;) 08.11.21 # could somebody tell me if rockbox works on a Digital Player?? 08.11.38 # well it wont work on an analogue one... 08.11.49 # wots a digital player?? 08.12.48 # Kenwood made a player with a 'digital amplifier', but we don't support it 08.13.10 # g0n: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginDoom 08.15.11 # americo: this webpage tells you which players are supported: http://www.rockbox.org/ 08.16.31 # how can i whisper ? whats the command ? /w ?? :D 08.16.54 # thanks, I saw it so if it isn't archos, ipod, iriver or iaudio, rockbox won't work on it 08.16.59 # ? 08.17.08 # americo: yes 08.17.59 # Not yet anyway. 08.18.23 # americo: which player are you interested in? 08.18.35 # digital player 08.18.38 Join Moos [0] (n=51400b8c@labb.contactor.se) 08.18.53 # Moos! 08.19.13 # hi 08.19.14 # americo, got a link handy? 08.19.33 # a spanish link :) 08.19.51 # Esta bien, hablo espanol un poco. :) 08.20.17 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 08.21.18 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 08.21.20 # y yo tambien 08.21.28 # Malnilion: http://www.lasgalerias.com/product_info.php?products_id=1445 08.22.28 # I couldn't find out what microproccesor use 08.22.43 # Well...that's not even an HD player... 08.22.44 # markun, my problem is that when i want to start doom on my h340 the game told me " .wad file is missing " 08.23.31 # g0n: did you read the website I sent you and install the .wad files? 08.24.06 # americo, if you look at the players Rockbox was designed for, you'll see that they share some main features that make them similar to each other. 08.24.26 # Features that this player lacks. 08.24.55 # There is no LCD screen, for example. 08.25.32 # Well, not a big enough one to count... 08.26.04 # Its display is LCD 128X32 08.26.32 # yap i do. i will check it now how it works. markun 08.27.11 # Bah, I dunno, I don't even know if I'd want a player that small, americo. 08.27.37 # :) 08.27.54 # The other thing is figuring out how to replace the firmware :P 08.33.17 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@dslb-084-056-067-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) 08.34.21 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 08.35.23 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 08.36.40 # could i have more than 1 doom version ( i mean other doom games like doom 2 or something) on the iriver? 08.39.37 # do you know if Archos, iRiver and iAudio players have the capacity of play the same track in the same second once you turn on after a shutdown? I know that iPod do it 08.40.03 # i river can do this americo 08.40.52 # specialty: h340 can do it i know it for 100% ^^ the rest of the players i thnk too but i am not sure 08.41.31 # Yeah, the iAudio X5 picks up where it left off when you hit the play button (and maybe automatically if you configure it to, but I'm not certain). 08.41.58 # yes, there is an option to automatically resume playback when it turns on 08.42.02 # should be on all platforms 08.42.21 # Yep, there you have it :) 08.44.03 # g0n: can u tell me how much your iRiver h340 cost? 08.54.27 Quit Moos ("CGI:IRC") 08.58.51 # there is nothing really wrong wih mixing structs and classes in c++ ye? 09.01.24 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@cpe.atm2-0-1131059.0x50a648ba.banxx1.customer.tele.dk) 09.04.03 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 09.06.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.12.25 Join Zagor [0] (n=bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 09.14.03 Quit Sinbios (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.15.20 Join petur [0] (n=d4efd6a6@labb.contactor.se) 09.22.06 Join Sinbios [0] (n=Sinbios@Kingston-HSE-ppp3561570.sympatico.ca) 09.22.12 Join ender` [0] (i=null@84.52.165.220) 09.24.08 # JdGordon: structs and classes are identical in C++, except for the default protection level (public/private). (In C# the two are very different.) 09.24.31 # k 09.26.03 # bit more info here: http://www.parashift.com/c++-faq-lite/classes-and-objects.html#faq-7.8 09.26.14 # extremely good site btw 09.28.21 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 09.29.31 Join UncleBill [0] (n=l@c-67-188-78-25.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 09.29.40 # hello friends 09.33.14 # I have an iRiver iHP-140 with RockBox on it. like an idiot, I plugged the wrong power charger into it, and it stopped working. I opened it up and I see one charred chip. unfortunately, I can't read the label on the chip and I'm not a hardware-expert. It has six leads, and I'm hopeful it's the only thing broken 09.34.30 # can anyone recommend someone to help me fix it? 09.35.56 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=5343d4aa@labb.contactor.se) 09.36.42 Join Lynx [0] (n=lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 09.38.53 # UncleBill: sounds like thats not gonna be fun to fix 09.39.32 # gah! someone killed the wiki :D 09.39.48 Quit Nilisco (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.40.19 # JdGordon: no, Zagor is working on it ;) 09.40.42 # JdGordon: nah, that's just me toiling around with the new version. the display system is all different, so I'm struggling to rockbox-ify it 09.40.58 # : 09.41.00 # :) 09.41.34 # UncleBill: which chip did u fry? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverInfo has a pic of the pcb 09.43.16 # JdGordon, I'm looking now. I have a picture I've taken of my board; I could post it somewhere and show you 09.44.05 # I looked at the schematics that Linus posted on the rockbox site, but couldn't make much headway of locating the chip 09.45.26 # .. well unless u can figure out which chip u fried there isnt much chance of someone being able to help u :p 09.46.03 # my other issue is that once I find the chip, I'm not sure how to replace it. I've soldered plenty in my life, but never surface mount chips. these things are pretty small. I'll have to figure the proper technique and tools 09.46.20 Quit darkless (Remote closed the connection) 09.47.17 Quit g0n ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 09.47.23 # chances are, it won't be the only chip that fried. You'll only know once you replaced the obviously fried one. SMD soldering isn't so hard if you have done normal soldering before, just remember these things don't need much heat to flow ;) 09.47.55 # on the picture you sent me to, JdGordon, I see the chip, but can't read the name there. it's U28, along the bottom edge, directly to the left of the reset button 09.49.01 Join g0n [0] (n=c20b4f68@labb.contactor.se) 09.49.27 # americo, in germany the h340 cost more than 300 euroe in usa i think 300$ 09.49.29 # I'm sure you're right, petur 09.50.22 Quit g0n (Client Quit) 09.50.30 Quit Lynx_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.50.31 Nick Lynx is now known as Lynx_ (n=lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 09.53.35 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 09.54.42 # UncleBill: i think the marking on that chip says "LTXQ" so at least u know what chip u need to get 09.55.56 # has any1 got mame setup on linux? where the heck are u supposed to put the roms? (legally obtained of course...) ive got the .zip's in /usr/share/games/xmame/roms which is where kxmame is looking for them but the available games list stays empty? 09.56.17 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=5343d4aa@labb.contactor.se) 09.56.21 # that looks correct on my model, JdGordon. how did you get that? 09.56.44 # the link to the 16mb jpeg :D http://www.rockbox.org/iriver/front_large.jpg 09.57.22 # hmmm. I'm looking at that as well. my monitor must not be good 09.58.30 # anyone have any idea what this LTXQ 6-legged chip does? 10.00.14 # probably power of some sort.. would explain why it got fried 10.04.24 # UncleBill: a search on the Linear site gives this: http://www.linear.com/pc/productDetail.do?navId=H0,C3,P1587 10.05.11 # yes, I see other searches show it's logical this would be the first to fry from improper voltage 10.07.01 Join sando [0] (n=lolsteam@144.135.255.155) 10.08.34 Quit mikearthur ("Konversation terminated!") 10.10.08 # anyone know anybody in the bay area in the U.S. who'd tackle replacing this regulator chip for me? 10.10.23 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 10.17.11 # can rockbox run on arhos AV 400 100 GB? 10.18.54 # I mean on archos 10.18.59 # americo: no 10.19.40 # ok. and on archos gmini either, I suppose 10.20.06 # ¿? 10.20.39 # americo: there was some initial work, but noone is working on it: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GminiPort 10.21.17 # I go there. thank markun 10.28.00 # what about creative? can it support rockbox? 10.28.53 # americo: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NonArchos 10.30.08 # thanks again. I was lost reading in the forum 10.32.52 Quit Sinbios (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.35.35 Join slarti [0] (i=slarti@gentoo/developer/slarti) 10.40.56 Join lodesi [0] (n=lds@d01m-195-36-141-33.d4.club-internet.fr) 10.50.45 # twiki is starting to look normal again 10.52.27 # just that funky logo at the bottom ;) 10.53.28 # is it me or could the tables do with a tiny bit of padding? 10.54.52 # gotta flee. thanks for the help, JdGordon, petur 10.55.24 Quit UncleBill ("Client exited.") 10.57.59 # aw, i liked the new theme we had for a bit there. 10.58.29 # i prefer the rockbox colors most certainly.. but i liked the.. dunno.. style/sidebar/layout. 11.02.35 # midkay: yeah me too, but it was a beast to configure. so I fell back to this simpler style. 11.03.05 # Zagor, ah. either way works, anyways. :) 11.03.34 # Zagor, so did you upgrade to a new version or something? 11.03.54 # yes 11.04.13 # better spam handling? 11.04.37 # a bit. at least it includes email verification for registration, so weeds out a few anyway. 11.04.55 # but spam handling will always be difficult in wikis 11.05.26 # ah, that's good.. 11.06.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.07.10 Join AM [0] (n=51e2cbe3@labb.contactor.se) 11.08.58 # Hey. I'm working on a patch that uses the menu functionality provided by menu.[ch], but now need to distinguish between long and ordinary click. How do I go about doing that? 11.18.09 Join Mmmm [0] (n=mscarrat@cpc1-hem13-0-0-cust634.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 11.29.04 # AM: a long press is button | BUTTON_REPEAT 11.32.12 # i think he means in the menu.. 11.32.26 # which would be a problem since i don't believe the menu can do that as-is. 11.41.03 # only because there is no key binding for it 11.41.13 # no reason it couldnt be added.. 11.41.29 # * JdGordon doesnt think why youd want long press in the menu.. but ok... 11.54.23 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3024.gwdg.de) 11.55.37 # ok, thanks, so I define a callback function in menu_init and then inside it check for (BUTTON_SELECT | BUTTON_REPEAT)? 11.59.42 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 11.59.43 # markum: I don't know if I'm undertanding it really well Creative's Zen Vision:M 12.12.19 # markum: Creative (ZVM) doesn't support rockbox. Is this true? 12.16.47 # americo more likely the reverse ... 12.18.04 # Bg3r: sorry, what do you mean? That Creative zvm can run rockbox? 12.18.12 # no 12.20.24 # i mean rockbox doesn't support creative Zen ... 12.23.16 # any creative? 12.24.47 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 12.27.45 # americo: if the rockbox site doesn't say it supports a player then you can assume we don't support it 12.28.13 # perfect. understood 12.28.27 # thanks 12.28.39 # americo: these are the only players for which you can download rockbox: http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml 12.42.26 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.42.27 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 12.48.39 # AM: no, somewhere in the menu_* function is a switch (button) or similar.. u need to add a case for YOUR_BUTTON | BUTTON_REPEAT 12.49.00 # but you may need to use YOUR_BUTTON_PRE and such painful stuff... 12.53.02 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p54933BE1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 12.55.09 # * amiconn wonders what about the _PRE stuff is painful 12.58.35 # ok, not really painful, just annoying.. 13.05.00 Quit Mmmm ("Byeee") 13.06.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.07.27 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 13.08.25 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 13.12.03 Join mantono [0] (n=mantono@c83-250-204-173.bredband.comhem.se) 13.16.34 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@88.218.17.158) 13.20.59 # why do I need to add a case for BUTTON_REPEAT in menu_show (that's the function where switch (key) is)? shouldn't I be able to achieve the same thing by installing a callback function when calling menu_init? 13.21.21 # I'd rather do this without having to modify menu.[ch] if possible 13.23.01 Join Poka64 [0] (i=peter@hd5e241c0.gavlegardarna.gavle.to) 13.25.30 # I gave the callback approach a try and it works... ...sort of. it detects long clicks, and when it does I've made it display a submenu. but when I go back from the submenu it doesn't immediately update the display (the submenu is still shown until I hit UP or DOWN, then it displays the previous menu). is there some update()-function or similar I need to call? 13.28.09 # AM: the menu is designed like this to make sure all menus work the same. adding special keys to menus is likely to cause user confusion. 13.30.53 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host187-142.pool8250.interbusiness.it) 13.31.45 Join DarkJesus [0] (n=DarkJesu@cpc1-gree2-0-0-cust487.brnt.cable.ntl.com) 13.34.44 # AM: The callback is only for manipulating button codes and/or doing additional actions in the same menu, i.e. things not displaying anything. 13.35.00 # That's why the menu code doesn't refresh the display 13.37.59 # ok, so what do I use if I have a menu option called "load profile". I want it to display a list of previously saved profiles, where normal click loads the profile and long click allows you to deleter or rename the profile? 13.38.30 # ?? 13.39.05 # You can already save as many configurations as you want (write .cfg file) 13.39.22 Join TeaSea [0] (n=Thunderc@lonsdale.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 13.39.23 # Then you can load them (browse .cfg files) 13.39.39 # This is actually a file3 browser (sub-browser) 13.39.52 # ..so if you want to delete one, just use the context menu 13.39.59 # No need to reinvent the wheel... 13.43.59 # ok, forget about "profile". perhaps that's the wrong thing to call it, anyway what I want is a simple load "file function". so yeah, I guess a filetree would be better. I'm guessing it's possible to filter so it only shows certain file types? I'd prefer if it were locked to a specific dir as well? 13.45.28 # how about 13.45.31 # rockbox supporting 13.45.33 # the xm dap 13.45.54 # could you find a way to interface with samsung dap for xm 13.45.58 # which supports xm and mp3 13.46.41 # I bet you people would do a great job, at the firmware 13.47.12 Part americo 13.47.52 # http://shop.xmradio.com/detail.aspx?pid=190&cat=36 13.48.00 # it interfaces with usb 13.48.10 # gopp: first talk to samsung, try to get them to send us their hardware documentation. that is the hard part. 13.48.16 # * Bagder bets that's a PP player 13.49.02 # Zagor how did you port 13.49.08 # to the ipod, and other players 13.49.28 # gopp: with lots of hard work 13.49.44 # oh 13.53.26 Join TCK [0] (i=TCK@81-178-209-51.dsl.pipex.com) 13.57.37 # Bagder: I wouldn't be so sure. After all it's Samsung that is replacing Portalplayer in the new flash ipods. 13.58.18 # zagor: check this list http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/mi4.html 13.58.44 # hehe, ok... 13.58.46 # but sure, that's no guarantee 13.59.26 # Bagder: MrH said he had the virgin boot loader 13.59.39 # yeah 14.00.48 # but I never got it 14.01.21 Join [TCK] [0] (i=TCK@81-179-73-185.dsl.pipex.com) 14.06.36 Join ryran [0] (n=ryran@rrcs-70-60-124-144.midsouth.biz.rr.com) 14.06.45 # weee 14.07.10 # whats the story with the remaining remote lcd patches that are ready to go? 14.07.50 # Bagder: It looks like it wont be long before custom creation of mi4 files are possible 14.08.00 # merbanan: in what sense? 14.08.53 # generate images that the boot loader will load 14.09.14 # yeah, but, why do you assume it will be possible soon? 14.09.50 # because almost everything is done now 14.14.03 Join slimx [0] (n=slimx@81.255.106.202) 14.14.14 # you getting on with the decryption Bagder ? 14.14.22 # that's already fixed 14.14.23 # ive been moving house so havent really had much chance to check it out 14.14.30 # http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/mi4.html 14.14.43 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.15.35 # oh, good work :> 14.17.28 Join g0n [0] (n=c20b4f68@labb.contactor.se) 14.17.34 # hey ho 14.18.25 # hoho 14.18.37 # people , do it give nice games for h340 ? 14.18.47 # haha 14.18.58 # in sociation with ROCK Box ;D 14.19.21 # i played Doom few hours ago ^^ 14.19.26 # was pretty nice 14.20.20 # do it give some more games? 14.23.51 # yes rockbox does have more games. a lot come included in the main build. 14.23.58 # maybe sonic the headgehog ^^ 14.24.21 # u know maybe where i can get the games? 14.24.28 # uhh... no. as far as I know, there's no sega emulator planned 14.24.38 # the games come with rockbox 14.24.41 # i have the mainbuild, the games are very nice but i need mooore ^^ 14.25.07 # g0n: get a real game device.... 14.25.25 # there is a gameboy emulator (included in the bulds) that can run .gb and .gbc files, but the performance is often not so good 14.25.48 # hmm 14.26.14 Join izzledizzler [0] (n=izzlediz@82-35-196-111.cable.ubr02.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk) 14.26.15 # hey 14.26.43 # does anyone know of free collaboration software for people working on source code together? 14.27.22 # cvs, svn, ... 14.27.23 # izzledizzler, cvs, svn, git 14.27.26 Quit g0n ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 14.48.53 # Bagder: another mi4 file for your collection: http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?scy=NL&slg=NLD&cat=MP3_PLAYERS_CA_NL_CONSUMER&sct=HDD_AUDIO_JUKEBOX_SU_NL_CONSUMER&grp=PORTABLE_ENTERTAINMENT_GR_NL_CONSUMER&session=20060705084811_130.89.163.126&ctn=HDD120/00&mid=Link_Software&hlt=Link_Software 14.51.29 Quit mantono ("Changing server") 14.51.31 # had that jukebox 14.51.33 # suxx 14.51.37 # poor sound 14.51.47 # poor everythin 14.52.32 # but another testfile for mi4code 14.53.03 # muesli|delhi: do you think the hardware is bad or just the software? 14.53.39 # both sucked imho 14.53.55 # pretty poor to navigate 14.54.29 # the unit itself hadnt have a good sound 14.54.34 Join Mmmm [0] (n=mscarrat@cpc1-hem13-0-0-cust634.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 14.55.43 # markun: got it, thanks 14.57.07 # Bagder: I firmware for the other philips DAPs look either very much like the 6320 or this one 14.57.16 # s/I/the/ 14.57.22 # this 120 one is very small 14.57.36 Join mantono [0] (n=mantono@c83-250-204-173.bredband.comhem.se) 14.59.16 # Bagder: Yes, it's also missing the usual strings. Only it starts with PPOS. 14.59.16 # decoded fine 14.59.24 # ok, nice 15.00.31 Join fiftyfour123 [0] (n=chatzill@cpe-74-65-243-27.nyc.res.rr.com) 15.00.38 Quit fiftyfour123 (Client Quit) 15.01.13 Join actionshrimp [0] (n=nn@host86-142-223-227.range86-142.btcentralplus.com) 15.02.39 # Bagder: btw, the other philips on the site is the HDD6330 I believe 15.03.02 # thanks, was just wondering 15.03.37 Quit [TCK] (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.03.44 # I just cheched the md5 and it's the same 15.03.50 # checked 15.03.51 # great 15.03.56 # page updated 15.04.33 # have to go paint my house now, see ya later 15.05.10 Quit Mmmm ("Byeee") 15.06.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.07.37 Quit pabs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.08.53 # ok, have fun 15.12.44 Join jd_ [0] (n=jd@wikipedia/Meanos) 15.18.43 Quit AM ("CGI:IRC") 15.20.03 Join lukaswayne9 [0] (n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 15.27.05 # why the wiki has been reverted to the old theme? 15.27.14 # the new was very nice! 15.32.19 # spiorf: [11:02] midkay: yeah me too, but it was a beast to configure. so I fell back to this simpler style. 15.36.32 Quit akaias (Remote closed the connection) 15.38.32 Join akaias [0] (n=akaias@c-71-57-61-189.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 15.38.52 Quit akaias (Remote closed the connection) 15.38.58 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 15.41.22 Quit mirak (Connection timed out) 15.48.10 Join victor [0] (n=victor@153.Red-212-170-12.staticIP.rima-tde.net) 15.51.35 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@dslb-084-056-111-109.pools.arcor-ip.net) 15.58.36 Join webguest56 [0] (n=3f5862e2@labb.contactor.se) 15.58.50 # hej 15.59.53 # jo 16.00.56 Join Xerion_ [0] (i=xerion@zorgash.student.utwente.nl) 16.01.46 Quit webguest56 (Client Quit) 16.09.15 Nick jd_ is now known as jd_away (n=jd@wikipedia/Meanos) 16.12.25 Quit slimx ("Leaving") 16.18.56 Quit Xerion (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.18.57 Nick Xerion_ is now known as Xerion (i=xerion@zorgash.student.utwente.nl) 16.24.36 Part izzledizzler 16.29.45 Quit muesli|delhi ("ich will Kühe!!!") 16.41.02 Join Sinbios [0] (n=Sinbios@Kingston-HSE-ppp3561570.sympatico.ca) 16.44.35 Join pabs [0] (n=pabs@ip68-100-248-22.dc.dc.cox.net) 16.56.14 Join Inc [0] (i=xsst4@arcane/developer/inc) 16.56.46 # hi, I tryed to install rockbox and I had to remove it and now itunes updater won't restore my ipod it says it's being used by another program 16.56.53 # and the thing's gone to shit. 16.56.55 # any ideas? 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17.34.25 # in the manulel 17.34.50 # for an ipod video 17.35.13 # i cant download any of the links 17.35.27 Quit toxicfume (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.35.54 # also i am so confused on what to do 17.36.22 # help 17.36.23 # * petur looks for his mind reading device 17.36.26 # please 17.36.37 # huh 17.36.46 # what exactly you want to download? 17.36.54 # <|apo|> pr0n 17.37.27 # the boot loader, patcher,and the ipod fw 17.37.41 # use the wiki for those 17.37.51 # what id that 17.37.55 # is 17.38.10 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodPort 17.38.43 # and http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation 17.39.23 # i need someone to guide me through this whole process 17.39.30 # <|apo|> http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation 17.39.34 # <|apo|> ^ Guide 17.40.44 # yes 17.42.05 # they do not have a 30g ipod video install thing on there 17.42.11 # <|apo|> Yes they do 17.42.15 Quit slarti (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17.42.19 # <|apo|> For iPod Color/Photo users - bootloader-color.bin, for iPod 4G (Grayscale) users - bootloader-4g.bin, for iPod Nano users - bootloader-nano.bin, for iPod Video/5G users - bootloader-video.bin, for iPod Mini 1G users - bootloader-mini1g.bin and for iPod Mini 2G users - bootloader-mini2g.bin 17.42.23 # <|apo|> Err 17.42.36 # <|apo|> For iPod Color/Photo users - bootloader-color.bin, for iPod 4G (Grayscale) users - bootloader-4g.bin, for iPod Nano users - bootloader-nano.bin, for iPod Video/5G users - bootloader-video.bin, for iPod Mini 1G users - bootloader-mini1g.bin and for iPod Mini 2G users - bootloader-mini2g.bin 17.42.45 # <|apo|> See the bold stuff? 17.42.50 # <|apo|> That's what you need 17.43.28 # <|apo|> 5G = fifth generation. It's not referring to the size of your harddisc - that's irrelevant. 17.44.27 # ohhh 17.46.06 # what do i do now 17.46.18 # <|apo|> Read the instructions and follow them 17.46.27 # i am confused 17.46.59 # <|apo|> Download the files 17.47.09 # <|apo|> Put them into C:\Rockbox 17.47.22 # ihow meny should i have 17.47.26 # <|apo|> 3 17.47.36 # i can only find two 17.48.16 # what are the names of them 17.48.24 # i have the boot loader 17.48.47 # <|apo|> See the three dots in front of the lines where it says you need to download stuff? 17.49.04 # yes 17.49.10 # <|apo|> Those indicate the files 17.49.11 # <|apo|> ... 17.49.41 # they wont go in the folder 17.49.50 # <|apo|> They will 17.50.08 # i got them in there 17.50.18 Join earHertz [0] (n=chatzill@c-24-30-242-135.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 17.50.37 # now what do i do 17.50.40 # <|apo|> . Start a command prompt and navigate to the C:\rockbox directory (type C: and press enter, then type "cd \rockbox" and press enter). 17.50.56 # how do i do that 17.51.03 # <|apo|> start - run - cmd 17.51.09 # <|apo|> then type C: and press enter, then type "cd \rockbox" and press enter 17.51.19 # any devs with ipods here? 17.51.52 # what that mean 17.52.10 # <|apo|> craftkid, just one question: If you don't know how to open a command prompt - why the hell do you know about rockbox? 17.52.15 # <|apo|> Click start 17.52.16 # <|apo|> Click run 17.52.18 # <|apo|> type cmd 17.52.20 # <|apo|> type enter 17.52.27 # <|apo|> then type C: and press enter, then type "cd \rockbox" and press enter 17.52.32 # <|apo|> *sighs* 17.52.35 # my brother 17.52.44 # <|apo|> Tell him to install it for you 17.52.52 # he is gone 17.53.01 # i did that 17.53.11 # <|apo|> Man... 17.53.12 # now what 17.53.19 # <|apo|> Kick your brother for me when he's back, okay? 17.53.26 # <|apo|> You're in c:\rockbox? 17.53.59 # yes 17.54.05 # <|apo|> You should now plug your iPod into your PC via the USB or Firewire cable 17.54.10 # ok 17.54.20 # <|apo|> Now type in the command prompt: 17.54.25 # <|apo|> ipodpatcher 0 17.54.25 # <|apo|> ipodpatcher 1 17.54.25 # <|apo|> ipodpatcher 2 17.54.25 DBUG Enqueued KICK |apo| 17.54.25 # <|apo|> ipodpatcher 3 17.54.25 # <|apo|> (etc) 17.54.50 # do i put a space befor ipod 17.54.55 # <|apo|> no 17.55.27 # <|apo|> When ipodpatcher finds your ipod, remember the number you have typed 17.55.46 Join funky [0] (n=repulse@unaffiliated/funky) 17.55.47 # hi 17.56.26 # how do i no if it found it 17.57.25 # how do i no once it found the ipod 17.59.32 # <|apo|> It won't say "Drive is not an iPod" 18.00.17 Join voltagex [0] (n=voltagex@static-210-211-102-124.nsw.veridas.net) 18.00.21 # is the iGameBoy playable on an ipod 5th gen? 18.00.22 # mine is saying more that that 18.00.36 # getting my iRiver back soon 18.00.36 # <|apo|> It won't say "Drive is not an iPod" < That's the last line 18.00.40 # <|apo|> If it's not, it's an iPod 18.00.50 # $231 later 18.01.18 # mine says 18.01.39 # the sys can not find the file specified 18.02.00 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 18.02.00 # * petur admires the way |apo| holds hands 18.02.08 # <|apo|> Is the file ipodpatcher.exe in C:\rockbox? 18.02.11 # <|apo|> petur: *sighs* 18.02.15 # <|apo|> I hate tech support 18.02.17 Join slarti [0] (i=slarti@gentoo/developer/slarti) 18.02.24 # ikd 18.02.28 # idk 18.02.33 # |apo|: why? 18.02.44 # <|apo|> If I'll have to choose between being unemployed and being tech support, I'll choose being unemployed 18.03.02 # yes it is 18.03.02 # <|apo|> voltagex: Because I have to tell craftkid how to install rockbox on his iPod 18.03.06 # oh. I thought you meant *getting* tech support 18.03.10 # <|apo|> :P 18.03.27 # i am going to tell ur boss 18.03.32 # lol 18.03.56 # <|apo|> Sure, go ahead. My "boss" is the headmaster of my school and won't give a shit. 18.03.57 # craftkid: if you get that error you're either not in that folder or you need to type it properly 18.05.01 # i am in C: cd\rockbox 18.05.13 # and i am typein 18.05.21 # you mean c:\rockbox 18.05.28 # ipodpatcher 0 18.05.37 # <|apo|> What does it say in front of the lowest line? 18.05.38 # no 18.05.53 # <|apo|> Now: 18.05.54 # the fuck is c: cd\rockbox ? 18.05.55 # <|apo|> [17:54:24] <|apo|> ipodpatcher 1 18.05.55 # <|apo|> [17:54:24] <|apo|> ipodpatcher 2 18.05.55 # <|apo|> [17:54:24] <|apo|> ipodpatcher 3 18.06.06 # <|apo|> And so on 18.06.09 # <|apo|> Until it finds the iPod 18.06.13 # <|apo|> *sighs heavily* 18.06.28 # <|apo|> Why don't you just wait with rockbox and use the original firmware for now? 18.06.34 # <|apo|> It's playing music just fine 18.06.39 # it says 18.06.42 # <|apo|> And I doubt that you'll like rockbox better 18.07.00 # i doubt he can get it to work :S 18.07.07 Quit funky ("leaving") 18.07.08 # C:\rockbox> 18.07.18 # that is what it says 18.07.21 # <|apo|> Then type 18.07.21 # <|apo|> ipodpatcher 0 18.07.22 # <|apo|> ipodpatcher 1 18.07.22 # <|apo|> ipodpatcher 2 18.07.22 # <|apo|> ipodpatcher 3 18.07.22 *** Alert Mode level 1 18.07.22 # <|apo|> (etc) 18.07.26 # <|apo|> Until it finds the iPod 18.07.27 # <|apo|> ... 18.08.00 # craftkid: that was *not* the last line, that is the new prompt you get after execution 18.08.13 # <|apo|> petur: I wanted to know that prompt 18.08.21 # huh 18.08.21 # <|apo|> To make sure if he's in the proper dir 18.09.07 # <|apo|> And the line above that one is where it says "Drive is not an iPod, aborting" if it's not an iPod 18.09.13 # craftkid: you may need to learn a little bit of DOS before you try rockbox 18.09.51 # the system cannot find the file specified 18.10.01 # <|apo|> next number 18.10.08 # or take some (beginners) computer lessons, it will save you from a lot of frustration 18.10.16 # do you have the file ipodpatcher.exe in c:\rockbox ? 18.10.27 # <|apo|> lou: Yes 18.10.28 # yes 18.10.31 # [18:09] the system cannot find the file specified <----- ipodpatcher program does not exist in that folder 18.10.38 # yeah 18.10.38 # <|apo|> petur: No 18.10.41 # what petur said 18.10.43 # or not? 18.10.47 # nm then 18.10.50 # <|apo|> That's what ipodpatcher says when the drive doesn't exist 18.10.59 # * petur shuts up 18.11.02 Quit pabs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.11.03 # * lou too 18.11.13 # * petur runs off even 18.11.19 Quit petur ("later!") 18.11.24 # <|apo|> Good idea... 18.11.35 # huh 18.12.12 # what do i type in the cmd 18.12.25 # <|apo|> ipodpatcher 0 18.12.26 # <|apo|> ipodpatcher 1 18.12.26 # <|apo|> ipodpatcher 2 18.12.26 *** Alert Mode level 2 18.12.26 # <|apo|> ipodpatcher 3 18.12.26 *** Alert Mode level 3 18.12.26 # <|apo|> (etc) 18.12.31 # <|apo|> Until it finds the ipod 18.12.47 # you need to make sure ipodpatcher is in c:\rockbox 18.12.58 # he has that :) 18.12.59 # <|apo|> It is there 18.13.01 # <|apo|> ~_~ 18.13.16 # i am so confused 18.13.18 # the system cannot find the file specified 18.13.24 # <|apo|> [18:10:49] <|apo|> That's what ipodpatcher says when the drive doesn't exist 18.13.38 # yes that is what it said 18.13.48 # no 18.13.57 # basically 18.13.57 # i did 18.14.15 # start run cmd 18.14.31 # <|apo|> craftkid: You know what? You either go learn something about command prompts and stuff now and come back later, then I'll help you. Or you ask your dear bro when he comes back. This is too frustrating for me, sorry. 18.14.49 # craftkid: click on the start menu, click run, type cmd 18.15.01 # well there are more people than you 18.15.23 # ok i did that 18.15.39 # craftkid: I understand apo's frustration, there's too much being said and misinterpreted 18.15.55 # now what do i do 18.16.06 # craftkid: you have a black box now don't you? 18.16.11 # <|apo|> voltagex: Could you send that again? My query blocker's a bit stupid :/ 18.16.21 Quit ryran ("hasta la pasta!") 18.16.30 # yes 18.16.41 Join AM [0] (n=51e2cbe3@labb.contactor.se) 18.16.46 # <|apo|> Indeed 18.16.47 # <|apo|> [calvino.freenode.net][505] |apo| :Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg ) < ~_~ 18.16.49 Nick |apo| is now known as apo` (n=r00t@dslb-088-065-064-080.pools.arcor-ip.net) 18.16.49 DBUG Enqueued KICK apo` 18.16.49 *** Alert Mode level 4 18.16.50 # i have it 18.16.53 # craftkid: ok in the black box you need to type cd \rockbox 18.17.08 # is there a space 18.17.19 # he's already there - he now needs to do the ipodpatcher N stuff 18.17.27 # apo`: hang on hang on 18.17.44 # craftkid: between cd and \rockbox yes there is 18.18.16 # ok i am there 18.18.28 Quit spiorf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.18.37 # the black box should say something like c:\rockbox now 18.18.53 # it does 18.19.15 # craftkid: if you type in ipo and hit the tab key, what happens? 18.19.16 # now what 18.19.22 # voltagex: I salute you. 18.19.56 # apo`: please register your nickname so I can msg you 18.20.01 # it says ipod_fw.exe 18.20.02 # You can 18.20.10 # And my nick is registered :P 18.20.20 # craftkid: Hit tab again 18.20.41 # now it says ipod patcher 18.21.01 # Now type 0 behind that and type enter 18.21.13 # ok! it says ipodpatcher, you need to make it say ipodpatcher 0 18.21.17 # then hit enter 18.21.17 # If the second to last line says something with numbers, it's an iPod 18.21.32 # If it doesn't, repeat the command, just with and 1 instead of 0 18.21.33 # do i erase the .exe 18.21.33 # i have a question though 18.21.37 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host213-145.pool8256.interbusiness.it) 18.21.38 # Then 2, 3, 4, and so on 18.21.42 # craftkid: not yet!!!! 18.21.43 # is your ipod connected via usb to your computer? 18.22.00 # what 18.22.10 # your ipod 18.22.11 # can i connect my ipod 18.22.17 # is it connected to your pc 18.22.23 # me 18.22.30 # you have to connect it yes 18.22.38 # because you just tell a program to find it 18.22.49 # ok 18.22.54 # and if its not connected guess what happens 18.22.55 # i connected it 18.22.56 # ._. 18.22.59 # great 18.23.08 # now follows voltagex instructions 18.23.09 # now what do i do 18.23.26 # what do i do 18.23.31 # you type 18.23.35 # ipodpatcher 0 18.23.41 # then you paste what it says 18.23.54 # Does anyone know how to set things up so that my tagnavi.config file doesn't get overwritten everytime I run "make install" for my simulator? 18.23.55 # they told me not to delet the .exe 18.24.11 # craftkid: yes, because if you do that, then we stop helping you 18.24.19 # have i said anything about deleting something? 18.24.40 # can everyone please stfu, and I'll try to help craftkid 18.24.47 # fair enough 18.24.48 # mine sayes ipodpatcher.exe 18.24.50 # it's confusing with everyone trying to help 18.24.51 # He's talking about the .exe part in the command prompt. 18.24.56 # Which is irrelevant 18.24.56 # ah 18.25.00 # Delete it or don't 18.25.00 # sorry then 18.25.03 # DOesn't matter 18.25.11 # now I'm doing the mis-interpreting 18.25.16 # Now type ipodpatcher 0 18.25.20 # so just type a 0 at the end 18.25.22 # And paste what it says 18.26.04 # craftkid: black box must say EITHER ipodpatcher.exe 0 or ipodpatcher 0 -- it means the same to your computer 18.26.13 # (I can see the "how do I paste?" coming) 18.26.25 # how do i past 18.26.26 Join pabs [0] (n=pabs@xor.pablotron.org) 18.26.35 # ._. 18.26.37 # paste 18.26.42 # craftkid: right click the black box, click mark 18.26.50 *** Alert Mode OFF 18.26.52 # It will take longer for you to paste it than to type it. 18.27.27 # Febs: true, craftkid please just tell us what the black box said after you hit enter for ipodpatcher 0 18.27.30 Quit _FireFly_ (Connection timed out) 18.28.27 # 'ipodpatcher0' is not recognized as an internal or external command, 18.28.27 # operable program or batch file. 18.28.40 # that is what it sait 18.28.42 # ... space 18.28.44 # said 18.28.49 # between ipodpatcher and 0 18.28.50 # ........... 18.28.54 # craftkid: a space between ipodpatcher and 0 18.28.57 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 18.28.57 # * apo` hits his head against the wall 18.29.34 # ipodpatcher v0.3 - (C) Dave Chapman 2006 18.29.34 # This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO 18.29.34 # warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. 18.29.34 DBUG Enqueued KICK craftkid 18.29.34 # [INFO] Reading partition table from \\.\PhysicalDrive0 18.29.34 # Drive is not an iPod, aborting 18.29.42 # now type 1 instead of 0 18.29.46 # and paste 18.29.57 # craftkid: ok, you need to try ipodpatcher 1 18.30.32 # ipodpatcher v0.3 - (C) Dave Chapman 2006 18.30.32 # This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO 18.30.32 # warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE 18.30.32 *** Alert Mode level 1 18.30.32 # [INFO] Reading partition table from \\.\PhysicalDrive1 18.30.32 *** Alert Mode level 2 18.30.32 # Part Start Sector End Sector Size (MB) Type 18.30.32 *** Alert Mode level 3 18.30.32 # 0 63 160649 78.4 Empty (0x00) 18.30.34 # 1 160650 58605119 28537.3 W95 FAT32 (0x0b) 18.30.51 # thats your ipod 18.30.52 # we have lift off 18.30.58 # now what 18.31.14 # what number do i need to no 18.31.19 # lou, apo, I don't know anything about the ipod setup, take it from here :| 18.31.20 # ipodpatcher -r 1 bootpartition.bin 18.31.39 # where do i type that 18.31.45 # black box 18.31.46 # craftkid: in the black box 18.31.47 # thank you 18.32.05 # Then type this (in the black box): 18.32.05 # ipod_fw -o apple_os.bin -e 0 bootpartition.bin 18.32.12 # Then: 18.32.13 # ipod_fw -o apple_sw_5g_rcsc.bin -e 1 bootpartition.bin 18.32.32 Join _FireFly_ [0] (n=FireFly@dslb-084-056-127-135.pools.arcor-ip.net) 18.32.58 # it is not doing any thing 18.33.03 # It is 18.33.05 # it is 18.33.08 # takes a while 18.33.13 # craftkid: it is, it's thinking and talking to your iPod 18.33.19 # xD 18.33.26 # wait until the comand prompt comes back 18.33.29 # do i type it next to the rockbox 18.33.45 # craftkid: yes, when it comes back 18.34.28 # ok i typed all of them 18.34.33 # Now this: 18.34.35 # ipod_fw -g video -o rockboot.bin -i apple_os.bin bootloader-video.bin 18.35.15 # Generating firmware image compatible with iPod video 18.35.29 # is it supposed to say that 18.35.38 # Yes 18.35.38 # craftkid: yup! 18.35.46 # now what 18.35.58 # Wait until c:\rockbox> is back 18.36.08 # Then type this: 18.36.09 # ipodpatcher -w N rockboot.bin 18.36.10 # Err 18.36.13 # ipodpatcher -w 1 rockboot.bin 18.36.33 # kk 18.36.53 # now waht 18.36.57 # Have you typed ipodpatcher -w 1 rockboot.bin? 18.37.00 # Not ipodpatcher -w N rockboot.bin? 18.37.12 # yes 18.37.15 # Good 18.37.20 # Disconnect the iPod 18.37.26 # It will reboot 18.37.47 # You should then see a light blue screen (On the iPod) with some tiny writing - this is the Rockbox bootloader. 18.38.00 # yes 18.38.09 # should i reconnect it 18.38.15 # What's it saying? 18.38.20 # i cannot find the wiki page about installing the cross compiler for ipod 18.38.22 # it is gone now 18.38.25 # Rockbox Error: -1? 18.38.30 # can anyone give me a link? 18.38.41 # spirof: The page is just called CrossCompiler 18.38.43 # Okay. Now hold Menu+Select 18.38.50 # For like 5 seconds 18.38.56 # And don't move your hand 18.39.04 # kk 18.39.12 # Then hold select + play 18.39.13 # it is back 18.39.17 # linuxstb_, thanks 18.39.29 # Reconnect your iPod 18.39.45 # http://download.rockbox.org/daily/ipodvideo/rockbox-ipodvideo-20060705.zip < Download this. 18.40.20 # kk 18.40.32 # Now unzip all that stuff to your iPod 18.40.33 *** Alert Mode OFF 18.40.39 # Everything inside that .zip 18.41.17 # send to 18.41.37 # craftkid: no, unzip 18.42.34 # it does not say unzip 18.42.54 # Double click the .zip 18.43.01 # A window will open. 18.43.12 # where is that 18.43.23 # kk 18.43.42 # It has some files inside it - rockbox.ipod, and a directory, .rockbox 18.43.44 # now what 18.43.46 # Select everything 18.43.57 # there is two 18.44.04 # Select everything 18.44.17 # Now go to my computer in your explorer. 18.44.24 # There'll be your iPod drive 18.44.26 # Open it. 18.44.45 # Then just drag and drop the two files from the window to your iPod. 18.45.00 # how do i go there when it is slected 18.45.10 # No 18.45.16 # Open another explorer window 18.45.22 # And go to my computer there 18.45.32 # Can't you just right-click on the zip file and do "Extract to..." and then select the4 ipod? 18.45.53 # linuxstb: Be quiet, he'll be confused 18.45.55 # :P 18.46.01 # linuxstb_: good point, depends which version of Windows 18.46.06 # Just trying to make it simpler... 18.46.35 # go in what folder in my ipod 18.46.42 # No folder 18.46.45 # Just on your iPod 18.46.55 # kk 18.47.38 # Then unplug it - it'll reboot again and start rockbox. 18.47.42 Join spiorf_ [0] (n=spiorf@host198-0.pool80183.interbusiness.it) 18.47.51 # hold on 18.48.51 # ok 18.49.23 # craftkid: what's showing on your ipod screen now? 18.49.23 # Now you're ready to roll. Have fun. 18.49.27 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 18.49.27 # * apo` runs away 18.50.03 # calendar 18.50.17 # craftkid, it's all set up 18.50.17 # now what 18.50.25 # linuxstb, did you see my post in the forums regarding the iPod backlight when charging issue? 18.50.52 # it wont let me open it 18.50.54 # Febs: No, just checking now. 18.51.02 # craftkid: Put music on it and listen to it. 18.51.06 # No, I won't tell you how. 18.51.15 # http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo-20060705.pdf < Manual 18.51.23 # it is saying open with 18.51.34 # create directry 18.51.50 # http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo-20060705.pdf < Manual 18.51.52 # hel[ 18.51.55 # http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo-20060705.pdf < Manual 18.52.05 # kk 18.52.22 # Febs: My exact question - I don't know for sure. lostlogic did some work relating to charging on the 5g (and only the 5g), so there may be other consequences of enabling that define. 18.52.35 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 18.52.48 # (lostlogic enabled that define for the 5g) 18.53.34 # craftkid: now you say *thankyou* because we're *unpaid* volunteers 18.53.45 # OK. I knew it seemed too easy! 18.54.02 # 1hr 30min of tech support would cost you a lot of money in the real world 18.54.36 # Febs: It may be that easy, but I'm not allowed to think about it until after 3.0 :) 18.54.38 # I'm so gonna set up a paypal account and demand money for tech support from now on. :P 18.55.35 # * voltagex *cries* I want my mp3 player back! 18.55.58 # :/ 18.56.10 # Are there any plans for #EXTM3U info display in the playlist viewer? 18.56.29 # craftkid are you still there? 18.56.44 # yes 18.56.59 # craftkid: now you say *thankyou* because we're *unpaid* volunteers 18.57.01 # Oh, he's still there. Okay. /ignores 18.57.15 Quit spiorf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.57.18 # it wont work 18.57.33 Join RedBreva [0] (n=chatzill@host217-42-183-128.range217-42.btcentralplus.com) 18.57.34 # no 18.57.37 # cuz 18.57.39 # 1 18.57.47 # ok. bye then, I strongly recommend some computer lessons. 18.57.50 # apo was mean 18.57.53 # ok. bye then, I strongly recommend some computer lessons. 18.58.01 # AHAHAHA 18.58.04 # and it still doese not work 18.58.28 # thank you voltages 18.58.50 # You know what? I'll be mean from now on. FUCK YOU. I've been sitting here for 90 effing minutes and helping you. For free, and without one little thank you. Now go screw yourself. 18.59.28 # well stop being mean 18.59.31 # craftkid I now have you on ignore, you did not pay anything, so don't complain 18.59.51 # i said thank you to you 19.00.02 # tell him to think befor he talks 19.00.03 # craftkid, rockbox doesn't actually work, this whole thing's a hoax 19.00.28 Join mikearthur [0] (i=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 19.00.32 Quit AM ("CGI:IRC") 19.00.45 # amiconn: No plans that I know of for #EXTM3U support - unless there's a patch on the tracker. 19.00.56 # ^(sorry amiconn, I meant AM) 19.01.01 # juxtap: Damn 19.01.03 # Don't tell him! 19.01.13 # (he went and quit on me...) 19.01.14 # juxtap: that needs to be /topic and it needs to be /topic now 19.01.23 # :D 19.01.33 # I could WB it 19.01.53 # do it, even though I don't know what WB is 19.01.53 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host93-0.pool80183.interbusiness.it) 19.02.00 Part craftkid 19.02.22 # juxtap: Could you rejoin, please? 19.02.39 # apo`? 19.02.54 # Uh... type /cycle or /hop 19.03.05 # ... 19.03.06 # why? 19.03.12 # You will rejoin this channel. 19.03.17 Part voltagex 19.03.17 Join voltagex [0] (n=voltagex@static-210-211-102-124.nsw.veridas.net) 19.03.19 # I want to see if my WB's working. ^^ 19.03.38 Join Hansmaulwurf [0] (n=maerlyn@p50819E0B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.03.46 # apo`: i just did cycle, what was I meant to see? 19.04.01 # Not you... ^^; 19.04.08 # Oh well, I have to try something anyway. 19.04.15 # do it to voltagex :p 19.04.25 # * voltagex hides 19.04.37 Quit linuxstb_ ("Client Exiting") 19.05.27 Quit spiorf_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.05.35 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 19.06.25 # juxtap: I have just added a WB for you - a little message that displays whenever you join a channel I'm in. 19.06.31 # It's not going to hurt you :P 19.07.01 # *blink* 19.07.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.07.03 # STOP PICKING ON ME 19.07.09 # >_> 19.07.10 # go to #test or something, lol 19.07.18 # Um 19.07.21 # It's already tested 19.08.03 Join |apo| [0] (n=r00t@dslb-084-057-077-172.pools.arcor-ip.net) 19.08.22 # <|apo|> ~_~ 19.08.26 Quit apo` (Nick collision from services.) 19.08.44 Nick |apo| is now known as apo` (n=r00t@dslb-084-057-077-172.pools.arcor-ip.net) 19.08.54 # :3 19.10.13 Part voltagex 19.10.13 Join voltagex [0] (n=voltagex@static-210-211-102-124.nsw.veridas.net) 19.11.30 Join webguest59 [0] (n=5481c5c0@labb.contactor.se) 19.13.05 Quit webguest59 (Client Quit) 19.13.25 Quit [1]toxicfume (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.15.53 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@82.193.235.34) 19.18.17 Quit slarti ("Lost terminal") 19.19.34 Quit Genre9mp3 ("I don't suffer from Rockbox psychosis. I enjoy every minute of it.") 19.21.44 Quit XavierGr ("One firmware to rule them all!") 19.30.45 Join Ribs [0] (n=ribs@riblet.plus.com) 19.31.18 # ed 19.31.22 # oops 19.35.57 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-77-94.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 19.43.45 Quit Febs ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 19.47.36 Quit voltagex ("leaving") 19.52.45 Quit obo ("bye") 19.54.03 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 19.55.34 Join drippydonut [0] (n=drippydo@ACD5B8A0.ipt.aol.com) 19.57.32 Join AM [0] (n=51e2cbe3@labb.contactor.se) 19.59.23 # Anyone know if there are plans for #EXTM3U-info display support in the rockbox playlist viewer? 20.02.27 Quit JoeBorn ("Leaving") 20.03.29 Join funky [0] (n=repulse@unaffiliated/funky) 20.03.31 # hi 20.03.38 # finally I bought an ipod video 20.03.50 # now time to install ipodlinux and rockbox on it 20.03.56 # any order to do it ? 20.04.18 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=5343d4aa@labb.contactor.se) 20.04.52 # funky: What operating system are you installing from? 20.07.22 # linux 20.08.02 # Then it doesn't really matter. But it's probably easier to install IPL first as you need to repartition your ipod. 20.08.24 # You also need to decide which bootloader you want - ipodloader2 or the Rockbox bootloader. 20.08.46 # (but they are interchangable in both the IPL and Rockbox installation instructions). 20.09.23 Join slarti [0] (i=slarti@gentoo/developer/slarti) 20.09.26 # aha, which of them do you recomend me ? 20.09.29 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 20.09.39 # ipodloader2 looks fine 20.09.42 # But one thing I would recommend is to backup your MBR (dd if=/dev/sda of=mbr.bin count=1) and to backup the firmware partition - dd if=/dev/sda1 of=bootpartition.bin 20.09.46 # I havent seen yet the rockbox one 20.09.56 # (assuming /dev/sda is your ipod) 20.10.00 # aha 20.10.04 # ok 20.10.39 # If you plan on regularly using more than Rockbox, I would say go with the IPL bootloader - it's got a nice menu. The Rockbox bootloader is just designed to load Rockbox as fast as possible. 20.12.21 Join dpm [0] (n=dpm@p54A13B3F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.12.23 # ok, thanks for the tips linuxstb_ 20.12.39 # After you've installed IPL according to their instructions, installing Rockbox is just a matter of downloading a rockbox.zip from the daily builds page and doing "unzip rockbox.zip -d /mnt/ipod/" 20.13.07 # (where /mnt/ipod/ is your ipod's FAT32 partition) 20.13.24 # sweet 20.13.47 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 20.14.04 # do you prefer fat32 than hfs+ ? 20.14.56 # You don't have a choice - Rockbox only works with fat32. 20.15.08 # ahh, didnt know 20.15.37 # But I prefer FAT32 anyway because it will work everywhere. 20.15.47 # aye, thats a good point 20.16.47 # Is your ipod currently HFS? 20.16.56 # yes, it is 20.17.20 # Then you should convert it to FAT32 before starting anything. 20.17.58 # I can do it using ipodloader2, right ? 20.18.01 # (assuming you want to use Rockbox..) 20.18.14 # yeah, I want to use it 20.18.27 # linuxstb_: what's your DAP ? 20.18.32 # No - ipodloader2 is just a bootloader. 20.18.35 # an ipod too ? 20.18.44 # sorry, ipodinstallar2 I meant 20.19.07 # I've various - an old Archos Recorder which I don't use any more, an iriver H140, a 60GB ipod Color, and a 30GB ipod video. 20.19.09 # Installer2 20.19.24 # nice collection :)) 20.19.41 # No, I think ipodinstaller2 will keep the ipod as it comes. But I've never used it, so I might be wrong. 20.20.36 # But converting is straightforward - either run the ipod updater from a WIndows machine, or manually convert it (ask me how...) 20.21.02 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-27-50.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 20.21.12 # how? using mkfs.vfat ? 20.21.51 # Yes, but you also need to repartition to give your ipod a DOS MBR instead of an Apple Partition Map. 20.22.46 # OK, thanks again for your help, now its time to read a bit more 20.22.55 # But you will need to grab the contents of the boot partition from your ipod first. 20.23.04 # yeah, I'll do 20.23.17 # Easiest way to repartition is to grab a ready-made MBR for your ipod from here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationFromMacOSX 20.23.39 # You then just write it to your ipod (dd if=mbr.bin of=/dev/sda). Then disconnect your ipod and reattach it. 20.24.17 # (that wiki page has some conversion instructions for Mac users which may give you a clue) 20.25.48 # I'll read the whole installation instruciontions from ipodlinux and rockbox wikis before do anything 20.26.36 # I dont think that apple warranty will cover this kind of operations, I dont think this can damage seriously anything though 20.27.10 # No, you can always run Apple's official restore program (from Win or Mac) 20.34.37 Join hardeep [0] (i=hardeeps@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG) 20.34.53 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 20.35.46 # linuxstb_: maybe a stupid question but.. is there any way to play video in an external device, using any kind of addon for the ipod? 20.38.24 # would be great 20.39.20 Quit DarkJesus ("See yez") 20.41.46 # got to go, I'll continue reading ipl/rockbox doc later, linuxstb thx again for your help, see you 20.41.48 Quit funky ("leaving") 20.43.29 Join craftkid [0] (n=40fcc0f2@labb.contactor.se) 20.44.39 # i need help 20.45.09 # i need help 20.45.27 # please 20.45.32 # someone 20.46.09 # try asking 20.48.08 Join webguest22 [0] (n=acd5b8a0@labb.contactor.se) 20.49.43 Quit webguest22 (Client Quit) 20.51.29 Join webguest34 [0] (n=5499563e@labb.contactor.se) 20.52.10 # that guy craftkid was on earlier, the type of questions he asked makes me think he's a troll 20.52.41 Part webguest34 20.54.54 # can someone please help me 20.55.37 Join [San] [0] (n=San@213-202-139-19.bas502.dsl.esat.net) 20.55.45 # will someone please help me? 20.55.50 # 20:46:10 <@Bagder> try asking 20.56.00 # asking who 20.56.12 # asking what 20.56.19 # i need help 20.56.43 # try joining #rockbox-help 20.56.50 # how 20.57.08 Join webguest34 [0] (n=d9b8eaa3@labb.contactor.se) 20.57.29 # join/ #rockbox-help 20.57.43 # i need help 20.58.17 Join Condor [0] (n=Vito@hnvr-d9b8eaa3.pool.mediaWays.net) 20.58.38 # hello 20.58.40 Nick Condor is now known as theprodukkt (n=Vito@hnvr-d9b8eaa3.pool.mediaWays.net) 20.58.51 # in the wiki 20.58.56 Quit webguest34 (Client Quit) 20.59.17 # is there a possibilitie like in wikipedia to discuss the pages (discussion) 20.59.27 # i need help 21.00.07 # and could you maybe do a comparisation beetween the ipod, iriver and iaudio platforms to their orginal firmware and to each other? 21.00.14 # this would be very nice 21.00.22 # still dont know what i should buy 21.00.24 # You mean like the DeviceChart? 21.00.33 # oh 21.00.36 # ill look 4 it 21.01.17 # can some one help me 21.01.22 # theprodukkt: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome?topic=FeatureComparison 21.01.22 # where can i find it? 21.01.29 # thx 21.01.29 # That's really just the hardware specs though. I agree with you that a page comparing the different players to help potential Rockbox users choose a DAP would be a useful addition. 21.01.37 Quit craftkid ("CGI:IRC") 21.01.37 # craftkid: You need to ask a question first. 21.01.51 Join Febs [0] (n=40be240f@labb.contactor.se) 21.02.18 # im missing the ipod in the generic features 21.03.06 # It doesn't have any :) 21.07.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.08.36 # Oh god 21.08.37 # The retard was back 21.08.50 # Good thing I missed him, I would've been "mean" again. 21.08.57 # heh 21.09.37 Quit Sanitarium (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.29.25 Join webguest06 [0] (n=5124cf0d@labb.contactor.se) 21.32.27 # i want to register at the wiki 21.32.28 # Nothing to say, except thanks for rockbox!! It works perfectly in an iPod nano, i installed it in ten minutes. 21.32.38 # my full name is alexander stefan sikorski 21.32.48 # is it ok if i choose "ass" for my name? 21.34.04 Quit webguest06 (Client Quit) 21.34.04 # alexander stefan sikorski < *googles* 21.34.09 Join webguest06 [0] (n=5124cf0d@labb.contactor.se) 21.34.45 Quit webguest06 (Client Quit) 21.35.09 # u should find too much stuff not concerning my, 21.35.11 # but please 21.35.13 # hf 21.36.36 Quit bam_ (Remote closed the connection) 21.37.33 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome?topic=FeatureComparison 21.37.40 # ^^ in generic 21.37.56 # theres missing also iriver h3x0 firmware 21.39.19 # Alexander Sikorski Kontakt: Telefon: +49 (241) 60 06-1 29 Telefax: +49 (241) 60 06-1 27 ... 21.39.20 # Hm :P 21.39.32 # thats not me 21.39.40 # foot surgery :P 21.40.21 # stupid question, but dont know the vocabulary, what does gapless playback mean? 21.40.43 # That there's no gap between tracks 21.40.57 # silence-cutoff? 21.41.17 # Uh.. Yeah, I guess. 21.42.25 # will there be a video function on rockbox in the future? 21.42.49 # There's been one for years... 21.43.04 # but? 21.43.18 # as i see there is no mp3 player out with 25fps... 21.43.58 Quit Daishi (Connection timed out) 21.44.13 Quit Poka64 ("brb maybe lol") 21.44.35 # Rockbox plays video (a custom .rvf format) on the Archos devices (a small mono LCD). 21.45.09 # But that hasn't been ported to the newer (iriver/cowan/apple) players. 21.45.25 # But it's basically just uncompressed video, so it's not of any use for larger colour LCDs. 21.45.49 # ^^ 21.46.01 # you are chief ;) 21.46.13 # [15:40] silence-cutoff? 21.46.21 # ^^ This is not what gapless is about. 21.46.37 # not? 21.46.39 Join Daishi [0] (n=daishi@ool-45703854.dyn.optonline.net) 21.46.42 # fading? 21.46.42 # Gapless play back plays songs the way they are mastered. 21.46.59 # If the song is mastered with a 2-second (or whatever) pre-gap, that's what you'll hear. 21.47.27 # If the album is mastered with no gaps between tracks (i.e., Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon), the tracks will playback without any gaps added. 21.48.15 # whats the difference to silence-cutoff then? 21.48.18 # If you want to eliminate silence between tracks that is otherwise supposed to be there, you can use the crossfade function. 21.48.30 # i dont understand 21.48.36 # but its not that important 21.49.01 # i think i will when i run rockbox on my (not already bought) h340 21.49.09 # |---------song 1-------|-------song 2-----| 21.49.17 # |---------song 1-------| |-------song 2-----| 21.49.23 # theprodukkt: If you rip a CD to WAV files, and then open those files in an audio editor, you'll normally see short periods of silence at the start and end. That's the silence that "silence-cutoff" will attempt to trim. 21.49.37 # ^^ ok 21.49.42 # Gapless will play the first example with no gap, but it will keep the silence in between songs in the second example. 21.50.16 # isnt that the usual playback function? 21.50.27 # What Rockbox means by gapless is that it won't add any extra silence between tracks that was not originally there. Every other MP3 player inserts silence, which is annoying when you play consecutive tracks mastered without silence at the start and end. 21.50.43 # ok 21.50.46 # (e.g. a live album or DSOTM) 21.50.55 # didnt realized that bug yet :) 21.51.00 # It *should* be the usual playback function, but aside from Rockbox, there has only ever been one MP3 player that actually did it right. 21.51.12 # *every* other player? 21.51.22 # I agree, IMO, it's a bug to insert silence between tracks. But it's become the norm. 21.51.42 # Apart from the long-deceased Rio Karma. 21.51.50 # The Rio Karma is the only non-Rockbox gapless player. 21.51.56 # * theprodukkt doesnt know it ... 21.52.08 # linuxstb_: It's not really a bug as such, it's a design flaw. 21.52.13 # ^^ 21.52.30 # i dont think the developers wantet to player to act like that 21.52.32 # Many players have some sort of gap delete but that is *not* the same as gapless, and often does more damage than good. 21.52.57 # another problem 21.52.58 # could somebody add the iriver h3x0 firmware to the generic part of the Firmware Feature Comparison Chart chart? 21.53.25 # maybe also boottime 21.53.28 # and the iriver 21.53.33 # sry i mean ipod 21.54.13 # and i think the ipod and the iriver part could be merged... 21.54.22 # TeaSea: A lot of bugs are design flaws... 21.54.40 # (hope it doesnt piss u off if i talk like that) 21.54.56 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-31-206.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.55.17 # theprodukkt: Feel free to change that page. But Rockbox now works on a lot of players, so including every original firmware would make it a huge table. 21.55.44 Quit actionshrimp ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.01 :: www.XLhost.de )") 21.55.47 # doesnt matter 21.55.50 # (and also, not many people use the original firmwares in order to be able to accurately describe those features). 21.55.59 Join Aditya|Nap [0] (n=aditya@c-69-138-7-5.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 21.56.08 # u cant work with javascript code in the wiki, can u? 21.56.16 Part Aditya|Nap 21.57.05 # as i understood the orginal firmware is nessesary (written like that<-?) for the filetransfer 21.57.19 # necessary 21.57.20 # Yup 21.57.41 # I don't know. But if you came up with a nice html/javascript feature comparison page, I'm sure it would be hosted on rockbox.org. 21.57.58 # (if the wiki couldn't handle it) 22.04.41 Join lds_ [0] (n=lds@d01v-89-83-169-216.d4.club-internet.fr) 22.06.48 Quit Hansmaulwurf ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 22.08.09 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.10.13 Join DarkJesus [0] (n=DarkJesu@cpc1-gree2-0-0-cust487.brnt.cable.ntl.com) 22.13.00 Quit lodesi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.14.01 Quit theprodukkt (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.18.50 Quit MarcoPolo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.19.59 Join darkless [0] (n=darkless@62.61.132.51.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) 22.22.45 Quit jd_away (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.23.36 Join jd_ [0] (n=jd@wikipedia/Meanos) 22.26.14 Quit drippydonut ("Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]") 22.33.23 Join akaidiota [0] (n=not@84-217-3-173.tn.glocalnet.net) 22.36.41 Quit Kohlrabi ("Quit") 22.38.20 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-134-213.pools.arcor-ip.net) 22.38.58 Quit Ribs (Remote closed the connection) 22.39.36 Join Ribs [0] (n=ribs@riblet.plus.com) 22.48.18 # linuxstb here? 22.50.44 Quit akaidiot (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.52.24 Quit DarkJesus ("See yez") 22.54.12 Quit AM ("CGI:IRC") 22.55.41 Quit Ribs (Remote closed the connection) 22.57.13 Join Ribs [0] (n=ribs@riblet.plus.com) 22.58.00 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp66-1.adsl.forthnet.gr) 22.59.28 # earHertz: Yes. 22.59.51 # linuxstb: YOU KNOW A LOT ABOUT LINUX? 22.59.56 # er, sorrry 23.00.11 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-4-16.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 23.01.13 # What particular part of Linux? 23.01.34 # kernel, cstblib 23.01.58 # Not really, no. 23.02.03 # oh 23.02.28 # mmecpy and the like are written in asm in order to be fast, yes? 23.02.58 # That's the idea... 23.03.56 # I did a quick google for "arm7tdmi" and "memcpy", and that gave a few interesting links. Apparently uclibc has an arm7tdmi optimised memcpy (but I didn't look for it). 23.04.11 # gah! 23.04.42 # The new twiki broke the green tick graphics and replaced it with the text 'DONE' 23.04.58 # Pages like http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GraphicsAPI are looking really strange now 23.06.50 # linuxstb: I think I have an implementation of memcoy that;s faste rthan what's in teh kernel sources 23.06.55 # It seems a certain gif file is missing somewhere in the twiki config: choice-yes.gif 23.07.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.07.07 # that disturbs me 23.07.38 # Mno, it's there... 23.08.02 # * amiconn is puzzled 23.09.14 # works for me.. 23.09.29 # Hmpf, and the 'View raw' link is also gone - very bad for locked topics :( 23.09.45 # agreed. 23.10.05 # and i'd imagine for older revisions. 23.10.37 # i actually wanted to use such a feature now, i changed something in PluginIndex for the "new theme" we got for a little while and to change it back i need to view raw of the last revision, but there's no such button... 23.10.40 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-70-112-165-230.austin.res.rr.com) 23.12.19 Join lowlight [0] (n=c730190a@labb.contactor.se) 23.13.20 # Aha, http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/TWiki/TWikiPreferences should contain "Set Y = %ICON{choice-yes}%" instead of "Set Y = DONE" as it is now 23.14.01 Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.14.04 # * amiconn summons Zagor 23.14.49 Join theprodukkt [0] (n=Vito@hnvr-d9b8eaa3.pool.mediaWays.net) 23.14.56 Join bluey- [0] (n=bluey@dslb-088-073-097-116.pools.arcor-ip.net) 23.15.05 # * petur notes Zagor not here 23.15.14 # im back :) 23.15.22 # earHertz: The Linux version of memcpy is possibly optimised for more powerful ARM processors. Whereas you've optimised yours for the arm7tdmi. Have you tried searching for memcpy implementations for the arm7tdmi specifically? 23.15.58 # anyone here understand viewer.c? 23.16.31 # linuxstb: no 23.16.52 # please tell me which is the best: ipod / iauido / iriver h340... 23.17.01 # i have to buy one of them fast 23.17.04 # but cant decide 23.17.14 # linuxstb: but the nature of it is, my version would be faster in any ARM I suspect. 23.18.01 # linuxstb, earHertz: (1) The speed relation could also depend on the memory interface width 23.18.32 # (2) My impression is that linux developers usually don't optimise much 23.18.47 # amiconn: expand on 1? you mean the bandwidth? 23.19.03 # 16 vs. 32bit 23.19.28 # amiconn: then why trouble to write it in asm? teh non-aligned copy is heavikly (and well optimized) in teh kernel 23.20.30 # I don't know, it's just an impression 23.21.25 # theprodukkt: For Rockbox use right now, H340. But then, you also didn't specify which category of iPod. 23.21.28 # * amiconn suspects that the coldfire linux memcpy is also slower than rockbox's version 23.21.57 # the ipod video 23.21.59 # But then, rockbox's coldfire memcpy is a code monster compared to a plain C implementation 23.22.08 # V. generation 23.22.22 # well linux on m68k is not very widely used 23.22.29 # on arm it is 23.22.43 # theprodukkt: Well, the H340 is better supported by Rockbox at the moment. 23.22.45 # theprodukkt: Just go with your instinct - they are all good DAPs. 23.23.21 Part Paul_The_Nerd 23.23.29 # i want them to be good also with their orginal firmware 23.23.35 # * theprodukkt is perfectionist 23.23.47 # they all cost a lot 23.24.09 # and i want to have the best for that money 23.24.18 # If the original firmware were perfect, there wouldn't be a rockbox port... 23.24.35 # right 23.25.05 # i'd prefer the h340 23.25.10 # but it is soo big 23.25.23 # and the tastatur layout isnt the best 23.25.34 # navigation isnt easy to i heard 23.25.40 # The h340 is a good choice for Rockbox because every part of the hardware (I think) has publically available documentation. 23.25.49 # anyone understand the viewer.c plugin? 23.25.50 # But then, all rockbox supported daps have their pros and cons. None of them is perfect, it depends on what features you're most interested in 23.26.08 # * petur hugs his h340 23.26.13 # i'h i like the h1xx series myself... 23.26.17 # but then i don't need video 23.26.17 # at the cowon i dont like the small joystick and the display 23.26.23 # theprodukkt: Forgive me if I'm wrong, but afaik tastatur is no English word :P You mean keyboard 23.26.33 # ^^ sry yes 23.26.39 # i mean keys ;) 23.26.49 # ^^ 23.27.10 # Are you from Germany? 23.27.12 # at the ipod i love the wheel... and the amazing display 23.27.18 # Me too 23.27.19 # * theprodukkt is from germany 23.27.25 # i like my x5 too.. but i don't like the battery life (yet) 23.27.32 # but i dont like the apple-marketing 23.27.33 # Well, the wheel. The display on a 4g ain't all that great :P 23.27.36 # < German, too 23.28.08 # yeah... apple just isn't right 23.28.17 # ^^; 23.28.33 # are there big differences between the ipod and the iriver port of rockbox? 23.28.36 # But put Rockbox on an ipod, and it's no longer Apple's. 23.28.39 # My next mp3 player is gonna be an iPod, anyway. I just need the wheel. 23.29.26 # earHertz: arm7tdmi is not ARM arch 5 iirc 23.29.41 # so you can just skip the PLD() things 23.29.44 # do someone know if the host-usb function of the h340 is able to play files directly (without having to copy them) from an external (300gb xD) usb hd? 23.29.49 # from the linux asm version of memcpy 23.29.59 # * ender` yawns 23.30.01 # Bagder: yeah, I asked about that in ipodlinux and got the same answer 23.30.04 # omg 23.30.05 # ender 23.30.06 # :O 23.30.12 # :) 23.30.13 # Hiya 23.30.23 Part lowlight 23.30.29 # Bagder: I actually am thinking my memcpy is faster than the kernels. Help me to prove myself wrong 23.31.16 # theprodukkt: you need to copy the files first (with the original firmware) 23.31.21 # well, include the kernel version, cut out the #include lines, remove the PLD() lines and it should more or less work, doesn't it? 23.31.22 # * amiconn spots an active Bagder and kindly asks for repairing the broken %Y% in twiki 23.31.23 # evenif I linked it wrong (eg, not aligned) I'd just add a constant factor to irts cost, right? 23.31.49 Join damaki_ [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-72-131.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) 23.31.53 # Bagder: yeah, I did (the PLD lines are #defined out anyway, no problwems) 23.32.09 # earHertz: I agree with amiconn - Linux isn't always perfectly optimised. So don't be surprised that you've beaten it. 23.32.42 # amiconn: no time for that now, sorry 23.33.03 # It's just a wiki edit I'm not allowed to perform... 23.33.14 # linuxstb_: hmm 23.33.21 # * petur thinks we need more wiki admins 23.33.44 # wouldn't you want tio have memcpy aggressively optiized? OI mean, it gets used a lot, right (except inC++) 23.33.46 # one more stupid question: does the ipod have usb? 23.34.27 # through a special cable :p 23.34.31 # earHertz: It's only the kernel version. Linux applications will use the C library or their own implementations. 23.34.55 # (that's why I suggested uclibc) 23.34.55 # ^^ thats what i dont like at ipod :( 23.35.23 # wait, they're NOTthe same? 23.35.30 # why the hell not? 23.35.54 # iriver has no special accessories, but then again it already contains everything, you just need the correct (standard) cable 23.36.03 # will there be a scratch feature using the ipod wheel ;) 23.36.04 # ? 23.36.04 # Because userland apps don't call a kernel function for memcpy... 23.36.41 # theprodukkt: write one ;) 23.37.37 # how is the handling of the h340? is the keylayout o.k.? (Looks strange to me), is it easy to find the right Song / to navigate through huge amounts of Tracks? 23.37.58 # arrrgh 23.38.41 # theprodukkt: I just keep up/down pressed until I'm there. Tip: organize your files better ;) 23.39.34 # iPod is better than H340 for moving quickly through a long list. H340 is better than iPod at selecting the exact file you want once you get close to it. 23.40.01 # i'd hardly say the H340 is better at that, since it's not hard on ipod.. 23.40.17 # slightly easier, but hardly noticeable.. 23.40.20 # h3x0 has MORE buttons and no multi-key combo's 23.40.56 # * petur must admit he has never even touched an ipod 23.41.12 # I've touched both 23.41.15 # midkay: iPod has no tactile feedback, so it's tough to make one-step adjustments without looking at the screen. 23.41.15 # Prefer the iPod 23.41.24 Nick theprodukkt is now known as thprdkk|wc3tft (n=Vito@hnvr-d9b8eaa3.pool.mediaWays.net) 23.41.40 # still dont know which i should BUY 23.41.47 # Febs: but the ipod can click. 23.41.51 # please give me an uniform answer ;) 23.41.58 # there isn't one 23.42.07 # ill come back later and want the name of the BEST player ;) 23.42.15 # h340 23.42.20 # but as it looks now the cowon isnt an alternative 23.42.21 # There is no clear 'best' 23.42.28 # Febs, oh, for sure, you can't do a thing as far as browsing without seeing the screen. 23.42.37 # but when you see the screen there's no problem.. 23.42.38 # ...but if I had to decide between h340 and ipod, I'd choose the h340 23.42.47 # ipod! 23.42.50 # :| 23.43.06 # way to go amiconn 23.43.09 # nice choice 23.43.24 # i already heard the h3x0 uses rockbox better 23.43.25 # (though I know that you still prefer your Archos than an H100/H300) 23.43.29 # everyone's got an opinion.. just look at the features and see which is best for you. they all run rockbox very similarly. 23.43.34 # I, on the other hand, sold my H340 and bought an iPod video. However, I probably would not have done that if I didn't also have an H120. 23.43.36 Join fiftyfour123 [0] (n=chatzill@cpe-74-65-243-27.nyc.res.rr.com) 23.43.49 # thprdkk|wc3tft: the point is, once you have the player, you'll get used to the handling and be happy with it 23.44.24 # if my h320 wouldn't have survived my soldering (replacing the dac) i propably would have bought an h340 23.44.36 # midkay: That's not quite true - Rockbox on the irivers is a lot more advanced than the ipods. And that probably won't change too much considering the lack of hardware docs for the ipods. 23.44.38 # in which parts the rockbox support of the ipod isnt that good than that of the h3x0 23.44.41 Quit lightyear (Remote closed the connection) 23.45.02 # will rockbox 3.0 have an HFS+ file system for the ipod? 23.45.04 # linuxstb, what do you mean, advanced? 23.45.08 # iPod hardware does not support recording or FM radio without purchasing additional (expensive) accessories. 23.45.08 # fiftyfour123: no 23.45.13 # why not? 23.45.23 # because 3.0 is not for the ipod 23.45.29 # fiftyfour123: do you think that the answer has changed since you asked that question earlier on the forums? 23.45.30 # oh 23.45.31 # and because no one is insane enough to write code for it 23.45.39 # Febs: you never kno 23.45.45 # (HFS that is) 23.46.01 # but the h3x0 is huge and heavy, isnt it? 23.46.07 # i have been trying to launch rockbox off a FAT32 partition on my ipod with the ipl loader but its not working 23.46.33 # linuxstb_ (wrong nick last time) - what do you mean, it's more advanced? 23.46.34 # linuxstb_: thanks, I',m looking at the uclibc niow 23.46.38 # is it possible to use rockbox, ipodlinux and the ipodfirewall on 1 player ? 23.46.42 Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.46.45 Quit RedBreva (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.46.47 # midkay: There is still a lot of work to do on the ipod ports, and a lot of it (e.g. USB support, accessories) will require a lot of reverse engineering work because there is no documentation. 23.46.52 # thprdkk|wc3tft: that would be the archos jukeboxes =P 23.47.03 Join MrStaticVoid [0] (n=jlee@stealth.thestaticvoid.org) 23.47.04 # the ipod has better video support! 23.47.04 # thprdkk|wc3tft: I wouldn't call the H340 heavy. Huge is relative. It's smaller than an Archos Recorder, but bigger than an iPod video. 23.47.13 Quit _FireFly_ ("Leaving") 23.47.14 # whats ipodfirewall? 23.47.36 # midkay: Also, irivers are about to get their first official release. The first official Rockbox for the ipods is still at long way way. 23.47.50 # My H340 was approximately twice as deep as my 60 GB ipod. Otherwise, the dimensions were about the same. 23.47.54 # ^a long way away 23.47.56 # whats ipodfirewall? 23.48.11 # Huh? I now get 403 when trying to access the wiki?? 23.48.14 # Bagder??? 23.48.23 # The ipod does fit much better in my pocket than the H340. 23.48.46 # whats ipodfirewall? 23.49.12 # Febs: I hope your display stays readable this way... 23.49.14 # * thprdkk|wc3tft usually doesnt drink alcohol, but i can see things twice :) 23.49.30 # thprdkk|wc3tft: whats ipodfirewall? 23.49.41 Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.49.41 Quit Febs ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.49.48 # sorry stopping web server now 23.49.48 # oh **** 23.50.00 # i was thinking bout firmware 23.50.16 # Hmpf.... 23.50.17 # oh, lol 23.50.23 # major problemo 23.50.30 Quit fiftyfour123 ("Chatzilla 0.9.71 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]") 23.50.38 # * thprdkk|wc3tft slaps thprdkk|wc3tft around with nuclear waste 23.50.49 # Now www.rockbox.org just produces connection resets... 23.50.57 # "sorry stopping web server now" 23.51.17 # and I'm afraid it is not coming back for a little while 23.51.22 # lol 23.51.26 # what r u doin ;)? 23.51.41 # ls -la twiki/ 23.51.41 # total 16 23.51.41 # drwxr--r-- 3 www-data www-data 4096 Jul 5 23:48 . 23.51.41 DBUG Enqueued KICK Bagder 23.51.41 # drwxrwsr-x 53 bjst rockbox 8192 Jul 5 14:29 .. 23.51.41 # -rw-r--r-- 1 www-data www-data 0 Jul 5 23:39 .If_you_will_not_allow_me_to_make_that_that_I_want_-_I_to_you_shall_erase_all_site 23.51.43 # -rw-r--r-- 1 www-data www-data 0 Jul 5 23:41 .You_are_guilty! 23.52.06 # you laugh, I do not 23.52.25 # 'scuse me 23.52.33 # Ouch 23.52.37 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 23.52.37 # * thprdkk|wc3tft doesnt understand the log postet above 23.52.50 # Some guy obviously broke into the site 23.53.00 # Some guy who doesn't speak English* 23.53.22 Join damaki [0] (n=Chocolat@ALille-153-1-41-180.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr) 23.53.24 # dont look at me xD 23.53.37 # the uclibc memcpy is buizarre 23.53.49 Part earHertz 23.53.56 # mikearthur: i hear memcpy all the time 23.54.01 # what are you working at? 23.54.21 # * amiconn wonders how that's possible 23.54.23 # Bagder? 23.54.40 # wow 23.54.48 # a hole in the new wiki? 23.54.56 # there's a hole somewhere at least 23.55.06 # and its in the web somewhere 23.55.24 # and theres no backup ? 23.55.25 # do you have a backup just in case? 23.55.44 # atm, I don't care 23.55.55 # * thprdkk|wc3tft cares 23.55.57 # a backup has the same problems 23.56.05 # what problems? 23.56.10 # holes 23.56.10 # the hole 23.56.13 # ? 23.56.21 # security hole in the wiki 23.56.24 # A backup is just data... why should it have a hole? 23.56.33 # ? 23.56.39 # I backup more than just data 23.56.43 # why dont u use the wikimedia wiki? 23.56.46 Quit Kohlrabi (Nick collision from services.) 23.56.54 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-135-132.pools.arcor-ip.net) 23.57.16 # more than data? 23.57.29 # is there anything else on your server than data? 23.57.37 # do u backup the cpu / ram? 23.57.44 # excuse me, this is not funny 23.57.50 # forgot about that 23.58.59 Join DarkJesus [0] (n=DarkJesu@cpc1-gree2-0-0-cust487.brnt.cable.ntl.com)