--- Log for 14.07.106 Server: clarke.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 12 days and 18 hours ago 00.00.45 # I can tell you how exactly the OF does it - it has 3 possible settings 00.01.11 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 00.02.05 Quit PyromancerX (Connection timed out) 00.02.46 Join Big [0] (n=dummeska@64-252-101-61.adsl.snet.net) 00.03.13 # !seen midgey34 00.03.38 Nick Big is now known as BigMAc (n=dummeska@64-252-101-61.adsl.snet.net) 00.03.45 Nick BigMAc is now known as BigMac (n=dummeska@64-252-101-61.adsl.snet.net) 00.03.53 # hi all 00.04.32 # Another unrelated topic. The X5 OF seems to save its configuration block as the last flash sector. Do you think RB should support saving settings on flash instead of on the HDD? 00.04.58 # rae: do you own an x5? 00.05.26 # Why, of course. 00.05.48 # how is it? 00.05.55 # is it worth its cost? 00.05.57 # That's the main reason of me working on X5 related features in RB :) 00.06.18 # X5! 00.06.34 # I have the 20GB bigger battery model. I like it very much 00.07.03 # The drawbacks are the LCD size (could be bigger) - but this doesn't matter for audio 00.07.31 # * petur wonders what people do with such small capacity players 00.07.40 Quit cornchild () 00.08.03 # pretty much everything else is just great. 00.08.12 # The music is what matters. I'll buy one of those video players if I want to watch movies. 00.08.26 Quit Harry () 00.08.42 # so the audio is as good as everyone says? 00.09.16 # Has anyone done any recent battery benchmarks? I read a while ago that the battery consumption on the X5 was bad in Rockbox - but am assuming it's improving. 00.09.18 # petur: I seem to forget songs after 14 days of constant playback 00.09.41 # bigmac: The audio is great. yes. I use sennheiser px100 headphones. 00.09.59 # ahh 00.10.07 # i hate this ipod linux 00.10.07 # i cant get it off though 00.10.09 # linuxstb: I get 25h on X5L with VBR MP3 crossfeed, replaygain 00.10.12 # i have to do a full restore 00.10.31 # RaeNye: Any idea what the Cowan firmware can do with the same files? 00.10.37 # RaeNye: How long do you get with the retail firmware with the same files? 00.10.43 # Yeah, what linuxstb said. 00.10.49 # bigmac: the FM radio is not more than fair, but is sufficient 00.10.57 # cool 00.11.39 # It's been a while since I last used the OF for anything but USBOTG... but I recall 30+ hours 00.11.52 Quit petur ("here today, gone tomorrow") 00.12.14 # I never listen that much consecutively... 00.12.43 # So still a little way to go... 00.12.44 # It'd be neat to have a comparative playback test, but at 25+ hours per run, that'd take a while. 00.13.43 # jhmikes: it's true that only the music matters, but it'd be nice to have more screen space for WPS and to be able to support gameboy emulation (160x160 is just slightly more than the 160x128 X5 has) 00.14.06 # * linuxstb curses his 7 hour ipod... 00.14.34 # What has 160x160? 00.15.08 # linuxstb: not necessarily, since the OF doesn't do replaygain and crossfeed. A more thorough test is required. 00.15.13 # gameboy has 00.15.33 # I think the gameboy is something like 160x144. 00.15.36 # Gameboy is 160x14 00.15.37 # 144 00.16.17 # but it's square... I just looked at it 00.16.43 # The screen can look square, but have rectangular pixels, perhaps/ 00.16.43 # ? 00.16.57 # You can almost fit four gameboys on the 5g's 320x240 screen... 00.17.16 # Maybe, I donnu. Still 144>128 00.17.39 # on 320x240 you can view VCD and play ScummVM 00.17.45 # I just realized the Sansa could do fullsized gameboy. 00.17.59 # what's its size? 00.18.03 # 220x176 00.18.12 # not bad. 00.18.16 # Actually, ScummVM has been scaled to less than 320x240 screens, I believe. 00.18.23 # VCD is 352 wide, (and 288 high for PAL) 00.18.43 # rockboy runs on the h1xx, which is 160x128 00.19.31 # linusN: and what is done with the surplus pixels? 00.19.38 # Uh, after I patch the source, what do I do to put the changes on my DAP? 00.19.45 # Paul_The_Nerd: Does the Sansa have enough buttons? 00.19.47 # it has three modes iirc 00.19.49 # (for Rockboy) 00.19.58 # wo 00.20.12 # what if i have no ipod control folder on my 5g? 00.20.22 # the music is still on the pod 00.20.31 # skip the top 16 pixels, skip the bottom 16 pixels, or skip every X row evenly distributed 00.20.46 # linuxstb: No, it's short by one. You have four directions, a center button, the record button, and the power button. (UDLR, B, A, and Start, I suppose), so nothing for select (toggle hold maybe? Or turn the scroller either direction?) 00.20.48 # LinusN: Umm... so what's missing for it to be running on X5? I think I might take a look.... 00.21.17 # Paul_The_Nerd: At least it's better than the ipods... Toggle hold could be start. 00.21.20 # ? 00.21.28 # not sure what would be missing, but i think the 160x128 mode is very grayscale oriented 00.21.35 # RaeNye: Currently it assumes if it's a color target, it can display fullscreen. There's no color downscaling of the image size, I believe 00.21.46 # BigMac: You mean the Apple firmware still sees the music? 00.21.50 # linuxstb: Select is actually not used in more than 60% of games, if I had to hazard a guess. 00.21.54 # bbl 00.22.05 # BigMAc: You sure the file isn't just hidden? 00.22.12 Join Pyromancer [0] (n=Pyromanc@c-24-63-23-114.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 00.22.18 # ill check 00.22.41 Quit scorche (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.22.44 Join scorche` [0] (n=ScorchE@c-24-126-24-43.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 00.22.51 # time for me to go to sleep 00.22.55 # how do i unhide a drive? 00.23.01 Join PyromancerX [0] (n=Pyromanc@c-24-63-23-114.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 00.23.02 # cu tomorrow 00.23.03 # gnite 00.23.15 Part LinusN 00.23.42 # i guess ill just do a full restore and reinstall rockbox 00.24.08 # Why do you sometimes get small clicks at track boundaries if you use LAME --gapless? I thought it was supposed to be gapless. 00.25.08 # I encode a full CD with --gapless and still there a tiny clicks. 00.25.16 # Under Rockbox? 00.25.39 # Paul: If that was for me. Yes, under rockbox. 00.25.52 # Do they click under other programs, like Foobar2000? 00.25.58 Quit Bg3r (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.26.38 # Paul: Haven't tried it. Thanks for the tip. I'll check it out. 00.26.51 # I'm just curious if it's a Rockbox bug, or an encoder issue. 00.27.32 Quit chendo (Remote closed the connection) 00.27.34 Quit Pyromancer (Connection reset by peer) 00.27.35 # I was curious too. It's especially obvious with something with uniform volume across the track boundaries. 00.28.04 # Like Space Intro./Fly Like an Eagle 00.28.32 # But still quiet. No problem with OGG. 00.28.42 Join chendo [0] (n=chendo@203-206-91-126.dyn.iinet.net.au) 00.29.20 # There are possibly still some bugs/limitations with MP3 gapless in Rockbox. 00.29.47 # Are you seeking in the first track, or just playing it straight from start to end? 00.29.57 Join TCK [0] (i=TCK@85-210-88-53.dsl.pipex.com) 00.30.02 # linexstb: straight/seeking, makes no difference. 00.30.25 # I'm gonna try FooBar2000 as Paul suggested. 00.31.41 # Also, do you have any unusual tags, e.g. APE? 00.31.53 Quit Rondom ("Ex-Chat") 00.32.02 # linuxstd: No. Just ID3 1 and 2 00.32.25 # * linuxstb wonders if jhMikeS will ever get my nick correct :) 00.32.43 Join Daishi [0] (n=daishi@ool-45703854.dyn.optonline.net) 00.32.56 # *LOL* My typing stinks! linuxstd! *LOL* 00.33.07 # Can I modify my GPL'd licensed code to deny its use by Verizon and Verizon employees? 00.33.11 # Your client doesn't have tab completion? 00.33.35 # earHertz: If it's your code, you can do anything. But it won't be GPL'd any more. 00.34.06 # There ought to be a "No corportate use" version of teh GPL 00.34.13 # (S)evere (T)ire (D)amage 00.34.22 Quit Moos ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 00.34.29 # jhMikeS: You're not the first to make that typo... 00.34.56 # linexstb: Whew! 00.35.38 # earHertz: One of the main points of the GPL is that it's free for everyone - no discrimination. 00.35.54 # linuxstb: OMG. I got it this time. 00.35.56 Part Paul_The_Nerd 00.37.38 Quit kenneth (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.38.53 Quit darkless (Client Quit) 00.39.40 Join kenneth [0] (n=kenneth@proton.itconnect.no) 00.40.54 # linuxstb: yeah, that's exactly teh problem 00.41.35 Quit scorche` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.41.56 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp154-172.adsl.forthnet.gr) 00.49.17 Quit Febs ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.49.21 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-70-112-165-230.austin.res.rr.com) 00.49.30 # hey how can i change my ipods name 00.50.37 Quit obo ("bye") 00.51.53 # Rockbox doesn't name your ipod. 00.52.25 # no but itunes chose to 00.52.32 # when i restored it 00.52.44 # it named it ipod 00.52.47 # Just tried the MP3 --nogap on foobar2000 and it clicks there too. I'm using 3.96.1. I guess its not a thing to pursue here. 00.53.02 # and i liked it as Pod, 00.53.17 # because my drive is I 00.53.26 # so is is Pod,(I) 00.54.24 Quit PyromancerX (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.54.30 # BigMac: My point was that this isn't a general ipod/itunes support channel - it's for Rockbox... Try the forums at www.ilounge.com 00.54.45 Join Pyromancer [0] (n=Pyromanc@c-24-63-23-114.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 00.54.56 # ok thank you 00.54.58 # jhMikeS: That's good news in a way (it means you haven't found a Rockbox bug). 00.54.58 # jhMikeS - what version of LAME are you using? 00.55.03 # lol 00.55.05 # LAME 00.55.47 # S0ap: 3.96.1 00.56.02 # and why do you try to force --gapless? A-I am not sure that trigger /ever/ worked right. B-Using foobar and rockbox you don't need it... 00.56.13 # ok i have a question pertaining to rockbox 00.56.29 # I've tried it both ways. Same result 00.56.45 # if i made a folder in root, and placed all my songs in their, would i need the songs in ipod control? 00.56.48 # jhMikeS: I don't have problems here with --nogap here but I also set --nogaptags (though I can't tell you more about it... I was told to) 00.56.50 # jhMikeS: In foobar as well? 00.57.06 # BigMac: Not if you're only listening to them in Rockbox. 00.57.11 # linuxstb: Yes. 00.57.13 # ok 00.57.31 # HydrogenAudio is the place for LAME issues 00.57.43 # pixelma: I use --nogaptags as well when using --nogap 00.57.44 # but be prepared to defend your use of that switch. 00.57.50 # Isn't 3.96.1 quite old? 00.58.08 # not quite old 00.58.10 # but older 00.58.18 # linuxstb: I believe that was a recommended version for using gapless LAME 00.58.27 # It's just that that's the version I have installed, and I can't remember installing it... 00.58.32 # 3.90.3 is the previous recomended version, last I heard HA was thinking of switching recomendations to 3.97 00.58.49 # jhMikeS - recommeded by who? 00.59.05 # alright i have to go make dinner for the children 00.59.09 # S0ap: Somewhere on the boards or the wiki. I don't recall. 00.59.59 # I could always try another version of course. :) 01.00.16 # Why not use Vorbis, since you've said it works? 01.00.39 # are you sure the click isn't caused by a drive with an extremely high read offset not corrected for in the ripping program? 01.00.41 # Paul: That's what I've taken to doing. 01.00.53 # Good plan. :) 01.01.44 # S0ap: If I rip to WAV, I get files that I can stitch together perfectly. The rips are right on with no gaps and the length mod 588 = 0. 01.02.55 # I use Exact Audio Copy and my drive rips with no errors or anything. Isn't that "accurate stream 01.02.58 Join shirour [0] (n=50b2935a@labb.contactor.se) 01.03.07 Quit shirour (Client Quit) 01.03.08 Join Harry [0] (n=getlaid@CPE00045a78ee3c-CM000f9f7d5f54.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 01.03.11 # yo 01.03.12 # paul 01.03.23 # holding menu while pluging in usb 01.03.29 # still maeks it goto disk mode 01.03.49 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 01.03.53 Join jd_ [0] (n=jd@wikipedia/Meanos) 01.03.59 Quit Pyromancer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.03.59 # Your ipod needs to be running Rockbox before you hold menu and insert USB. 01.04.29 # * jhMikeS I'm cooking dinner tonight...off to be chef 01.04.32 # jhMikeS - see pm, as we have drifted from a rockbox topic. 01.04.41 Join shirour [0] (n=50b2935a@labb.contactor.se) 01.05.06 # S0ap: I know, that why said it's not an issure for here. Be back later... 01.05.20 # hi all 01.05.32 Join PyromancerX2 [0] (n=Pyromanc@c-24-63-23-114.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 01.05.43 # i've been working on a port for olympus mrobe for quite a while 01.05.50 # Anyone alive? 01.05.58 # so far i've been able to write a driver for the lcd & remote 01.06.04 # i've managed to load code to the memory and run it 01.06.18 # my problem is that i don't seem to be able to get the hard drive to work.... 01.07.53 Quit ender` (" I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me than a prefrontal lobotomy.") 01.08.08 # ahah! i have virtual memory mapping working. :D 01.08.11 # anyone here has ever done it ? 01.08.24 # When I'm trying to patch things and get a prompt asking "File to patch:" what do I type in? 01.11.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.12.44 # shirour: What's the CPU? 01.14.15 # linux 01.14.19 # i was runnign rock box 01.14.22 Join scorche [0] (n=ScorchE@c-24-126-24-43.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 01.16.05 # landus: try patch -p0 or patch -p1 01.17.16 # Neither works. 01.17.24 # I keep on getting this error when running the patch 01.17.26 # -p2? 01.17.32 # Uh, let me try. 01.17.51 # Nope. Same error. 01.18.06 # Landus: It depends on where you run the patch from, because the patch tries to look for the files in certain places (you can see what file it's looking for, and where it's expecting it relative to where you are in the text on screen when it gives you that message) 01.18.08 # Can't file file to patch at input line 01.18.09 # you can also read the patchfile and see the level of the files inside 01.18.22 # linuxstb: ? 01.18.45 # Harry: Holding Menu while inserting the USB cable works. Have you tried it in an official build, or are you using one of the patched/modified builds from the forums? 01.18.54 # I've tried copying it to the first directory that the patch modifies the .c file, but it doesn't change anything 01.19.20 # Landus: Usually the patch command should be run from the /rockbox/ folder (The one that has tools, etc, in it) 01.19.21 # BTW, I don't mean you should write "patch -p0" in response to the "File to patch:" prompt, if you understood it that way 01.19.23 # Maybe /rockbox-devel/ 01.19.54 # It's /rockbox, and I tried the first time around. 01.20.25 # This is what's at the line where I get the first error. 01.20.26 # @@ -430,7 +430,7 @@ 01.20.45 # Landus: Then type the path and filename in yourself when it prompts you for the file to apply it to. 01.21.26 # Bye everyone! 01.21.33 # paul 01.21.37 # im runnign rockbox 01.21.37 # * RaeNye snaps his finger 01.21.39 # im holdign menu 01.21.40 Quit RaeNye ("CGI:IRC 0.5.7 (2005/06/19)") 01.21.43 # adn i plug usb cable in 01.21.47 # adn it still goes to diskmode 01.21.48 # What do I do if HUNK #1 and HUNK #2 fails? 01.22.02 # Harry: I told you, it works in the official builds. Are you using one of those, or a modified one from the forums? 01.22.19 # earHertz: ? 01.22.42 # linuxstb: how should we be using teh IRAM? entirely for dsta? 01.22.43 Join scorche` [0] (i=ScorchE@c-24-126-24-43.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 01.23.08 # Paul_The_Nerd: I did what you said, and after awhile, it started patching without the prompts, but I got alot of HUNKs that failed. 01.23.21 # Landus: Probably an out of date patch then. 01.23.30 # Is it possible that it's because it's a .diff file? 01.23.42 # Landus: NO 01.23.53 # Okay. 01.24.07 # earHertz: I don't think anyone is sure - given a lack of documentation, all we can do is experiment. 01.24.25 Quit scorche (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.24.27 Join webguest73 [0] (n=40e4b827@labb.contactor.se) 01.24.31 # But my experience seems to say that it's better to use it for data. 01.24.37 # I got the patch here. 01.24.38 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/2954 01.24.43 # Is it out of date? 01.24.57 # earHertz: Although in some cases, putting data in iram has slowed things down... 01.25.04 # Landus: Well, the date on it is about a month old 01.25.07 # paul 01.25.12 # Harry: What? 01.25.14 # im using pblackglass build 01.25.20 # form the forums 01.25.21 # (I'm thinking of when I was experimenting optimising pacbox) 01.25.25 # for julis wps 01.25.34 # Harry: Then ask there if the button has been changed in that build. 01.25.53 # omg 01.25.55 # :( 01.26.01 # -_- 01.26.05 # we currently put mmecpy in IRAM 01.26.33 # Harry: What? 01.26.38 # earHertz: You mean for the other targets? 01.26.45 # (e.g. Coldfire) 01.27.32 # for ipod (and any oNo, wait, I'm incorrect. we do NOT 01.27.51 # I don't think Harry can sit still long enough to wait for a forum reply. 01.28.53 # lmfao 01.30.06 Nick HCl_ is now known as HCl (i=hcl@titania.student.utwente.nl) 01.30.35 Quit lodesi ("Parti") 01.30.43 Quit PyromancerX2 (Connection timed out) 01.31.09 # man we barely have any wps 01.31.09 Quit webguest73 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.31.13 # for ipod 5g 01.31.15 # that look good 01.31.19 # only like 2or 4 them 01.31.21 # look good 01.31.30 # wps aren't supposed to look good 01.31.34 # irviver onces ahve so many 01.31.39 # Harry: So make some. 01.31.44 # paul 01.31.48 # ill gfx it 01.31.49 # u code it 01.31.52 # :) 01.31.52 # No 01.32.11 # The WPS code is really easy anyway. It's just a bunch of tokens, primarily. 01.32.20 # thn 01.32.23 # then u can code 01.32.25 # while gfx 01.32.26 # :) 01.32.32 # And why can't you do the code? 01.32.39 Quit _`3nergy (Connection reset by peer) 01.32.40 # casu ei suck at programign 01.32.41 # adn codeing 01.32.56 # Have you made a WPS before? 01.33.10 # no 01.33.14 # nad i dont plan on it 01.33.17 # Then how do you know that you suck at it? 01.33.26 # im to lazy 01.33.27 # ::) 01.33.47 # And everyone who's too lazy, just like you, is exactly why the 5G hasn't got as many WPSes as the H300 01.33.55 # More active community, and all that jazz. 01.33.58 # hi can i ask about jbuild? whenever i scroll fast it skips to the bottom. i think this is the scroll accelerator. how do i turn it of? 01.34.05 # off 01.34.20 # Search the settings 01.34.36 Join `3nergy [0] (n=3nergy@techgaming.net) 01.34.44 # bigmac yah i got the same problem 01.34.44 # (I don't know if you can turn it off, but if you can, that will be how) 01.35.13 # You're much more likely to find answers about jbuild in the jblackglass thread. 01.35.49 # i know im posting there now i just wanted to see if anyone knew it about it so i could get a more instantaneous answer 01.35.50 # o 01.36.00 # hwo do i enable gayless palypack 01.36.02 # bac* 01.36.13 # You don't. 01.36.16 # gayless? 01.36.25 # If the songs are encoded properly, they playback gaplessly. 01.36.25 # lmfao 01.36.29 # gapless* 01.36.30 # maybe listen to a different tupe of music? 01.36.33 # ohh 01.36.35 # type 01.36.40 # BigMac - just set the settings for the second and third setting of the scrollwheelaccelerator patch above 250, you'll like it better. 01.36.52 # how? 01.36.56 # i cant find it in the setting? 01.36.58 # (what an ugly sentence) 01.37.00 # settings 01.37.20 # what is it under? 01.37.37 # you won't break anything, look, I don't have my ipod infront of me. I navigate by muscle memory, not vision. 01.37.57 # S0ap: to just turn it off? 01.38.08 # BigMac: General settings 01.38.17 # Ipod scroll wheel accel 01.38.24 # im looking 01.38.26 # im not seeing 01.38.32 # bigmac 01.38.36 # generalsettigns 01.38.39 # display 01.38.40 # scroll 01.39.00 # change scroll speed? 01.39.03 # No, no 01.39.22 # paged scroll? 01.39.50 # BigMac: do you just not want scroll accel at all? 01.39.56 # what do i change 01.40.10 # well is scroll accel what im describing 01.40.33 # after scrolling for a few seconds it jump all the way to the bottom 01.40.38 # BigMac: menu| general settings|system|ipod scroll wheel accel 01.40.41 # but i only have 90 songs 01.40.59 # Diod you compile your own build? 01.41.04 # no 01.41.07 # jbuild 01.41.11 # ok im at that menu 01.41.17 # how do i get rid of it 01.41.34 # ok, go in there arnd for each accel threshold, set it to 250 01.41.58 # Nobody like my scroll accel 01.42.00 Quit Harry (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.42.06 Quit Criamos ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 01.42.22 # i dont have enough songs to use it 01.42.23 # earHertz: it is your hack? 01.42.26 # i understand it 01.42.26 # earHertz: Hey! I don't dislike it! (I have not tried it....) 01.42.28 # yeah 01.42.34 # its just i have 90 songs 01.42.43 # no, it's ok, I don't like it eithert 01.42.49 # i dont need to go fast through it 01.42.55 # if i had 100 id like it 01.43.20 # it still does it 01.43.20 Quit shirour ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.43.26 # it seems to get twitchy (for lack of a better work) sometimes, I'd give you a proper description/bug report if I could reproduce it on a consistant basis, for all I know it's me. 01.43.26 # it just takes longer 01.44.28 # earhertz:its still doing it 01.44.32 # S0ap: yuou're using julius's build? 01.44.39 # cant i just turn it off 01.44.40 # i am 01.44.52 # No, it has no provision for turning off 01.44.59 Quit mikearthur (Remote closed the connection) 01.45.08 # It wasn't meant to be used yet anyway, was it? 01.45.12 # so if i set it really high it wont work? 01.45.15 # It's experimental 01.45.25 # BigMac: yeah, pretty much 01.45.27 # earHertz - I have. 01.46.07 Quit Kohlrabi ("Quit") 01.46.13 # sweet 01.46.18 # i set it all to 500 01.46.30 # does j build have album aart built iin 01.46.36 # art built in 01.47.25 Join akaias [0] (n=akaias@c-71-57-61-189.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 01.49.07 Join Harry [0] (n=getlaid@CPE00045a78ee3c-CM000f9f7d5f54.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 01.49.10 # so bigmac 01.49.11 # u fidn out 01.49.22 # yes 01.49.29 # man 01.49.33 # i set it all to 500 01.49.34 # how do i not boot diskmode 01.49.40 # now im good 01.49.42 # not? 01.49.45 # yah 01.49.46 # like 01.49.52 # if i connect usb in rockbox 01.49.56 # it goes to diskmode 01.50.04 # oh 01.50.14 # i think it auto does that 01.50.22 # a patch perhaps..? 01.50.31 # no 01.50.31 # im not sure im relatively new to rockbox 01.50.38 # paul said if u push a combination it doesnt 01.50.42 # same 01.50.56 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c211-28-95-208.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 01.51.23 # paul it works 01.51.27 # just u cant transfer songs 01.51.29 # thats gay 01.51.39 Join mikearthur [0] (n=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 01.51.50 # tee hee 01.52.11 Join scorche [0] (i=ScorchE@c-24-126-24-43.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 01.52.17 Quit scorche` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.52.22 # i named my ipod drive I and my ipod Pod so it reads Pod(I:) 01.52.26 # get it 01.52.28 Quit mikearthur (Client Quit) 01.52.51 # all my gadgets have proper biblical names 01.53.18 # lol seriously? 01.54.10 # Harry: If it doesn't enter Disk Mode, why on earth would you expect to be able to transfer songs? 01.54.21 # ipod = Samuel 01.54.37 # Why would we even *have* it go into Disk Mode if you could transfer songs without it? 01.54.43 # lol 01.54.47 # so this is jsut for pwoer? 01.54.53 # Yes 01.55.03 # -_- 01.55.22 # is their anyway to change the diskmode icon, like you can in apple os? 01.56.08 # You can do anything - the source code is there for all to see and change. 01.58.39 # I want a nekkid lady! 01.59.02 # lol 01.59.05 # for the bootsplash? 01.59.17 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.59.42 # that too! 02.00.07 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3067.gwdg.de) 02.01.04 Quit XavierGr ("One firmware to rule them all!") 02.02.17 Part pixelma 02.04.05 Quit lightyear (Remote closed the connection) 02.06.46 Quit jd_ () 02.14.14 # man 02.14.29 # we should be able to change the bootsplash by our self 02.14.33 # with otu coding 02.15.20 # then you should do everyone a favor and implement it. 02.15.26 # lol 02.15.26 # no 02.15.39 # too bad then. 02.16.56 Join Bg3r [0] (n=Bager@87.246.10.62) 02.21.10 Quit Poka64 ("nite all") 02.22.38 Quit PaulJam (".") 02.23.28 # I love how it's not "I might look into that and see how deep I'd be getting in", rather it's " 02.23.31 # no" 02.23.46 # yep. 02.24.13 # hey guys us there a description of what each of the audio effects do? 02.24.40 # for I am no C coder, but that should actually be nothing more than the swap of a bitmap before compile, and there are excellent docs on that in the wiki/google cache 02.24.49 # BigMac: The manual? 02.24.54 # BigMac: Yes, actually there is! It's called a "Manual" 02.25.13 # it tells me what the audio effects do? 02.25.20 Quit joshua_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.25.43 # read it BigMac, and if you still have a question someone will help. 02.25.43 # BigMac: What do you expect the manual to say? 02.25.54 # It describes how Rockbox works... 02.26.35 # or google for the terms like "crossfeed" you'll get excellent defs on all of them. 02.27.05 # ok thank you both 02.27.14 Join chris1 [0] (n=4597ca8e@labb.contactor.se) 02.27.23 # I doubt anybody wants to type in a four paragraph explination of ReplayGain (suffice to say it is cool) when there are so many good docs on it. 02.28.02 # I've got a n00b rockbox question here, any plug-in to allow syncing between my Canon 350D to the H120? 02.28.31 # Also, any good site for themes? H120 02.29.08 # does teh error message "Prefetch abort" mean anything to anyone? 02.29.29 # at FFFDFFFC 02.29.57 # alight i have jbuild on my pod 5g (which has the rockbox patch embedded in it), and i run all my music from a folder called myTUNES. now if i put them all into folders that correspond to there album, could i put the album art named cover.bmp into each folder and it would show up as the album art? 02.30.34 # chris1: The H120 can't serve as a USB host 02.30.58 # BigMac: Is that how the description of the album art patch tells you to do it? 02.31.51 # im checking the thread 02.32.07 # idk if i have to do it in id3 cache or what 02.32.32 # BigMac: Might I suggest that you search the whole forum for "Album Art" as it's a separate patch, and so instructions may not go with build information 02.33.10 # i did 02.33.23 # Thanks Paul 02.33.35 # but there is many results and im not sure which ones are for jbuild 02.33.37 # earHertz: I think it means the CPU is attempting to run code at an invalid memory address. 02.33.53 # Maybe, for example, the stack is being corrupted. 02.34.01 # BigMac: I doubt Julius has modified the album art patch any 02.35.46 # * linuxstb goes to sleep. 02.36.47 Quit chris1 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.37.23 # linuxstb: thanks 02.37.48 # Does anyone know where .fnt files would go, or should I just drop them in .rockbox? 02.38.56 # /.rockbox/fonts 02.39.03 # then "Browse fonts" in general settings-display. 02.39.48 # I wish linuxstb hadn't gone to sleep 02.40.35 # How can I tell the address in mmeory of a function, from the map 02.41.12 # midkay: Thanks 02.41.13 # Look at the map 02.41.18 # It'll have a start address for the function 02.41.24 # np, Landus. 02.41.29 # If it's between that and the next start address, it falls within that function 02.41.39 # can you have blue 5g green 5g and jblackglass allinstalled at the same time? 02.42.19 # They're just themes, so you can switch between 'em. 02.42.30 # Paul_The_Nerd: thanks 02.42.50 # can i have them all on my pod though 02.42.57 # or is it one or the other? 02.44.46 # BigMac: You can switch themes with the "Browse Themes" option... 02.46.06 # oh i got confused 02.46.07 # bigmac i thoguth that too until i figured out u can have as many as u wnat 02.46.18 # sorry i really suck at this 02.46.33 # is their a list of what roms work in rockboy 02.46.49 # is ther a doom for rockbox 02.46.53 # because any that uses b is pretty useless 02.46.55 # yes 02.47.03 # linky:) 02.48.09 # It's built in... 02.48.10 # http://daniel.haxx.se/twiki/PluginDoom/ download rockdoom and doom1 place the wads in drive:games/doom 02.49.21 Quit Harry (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.53.07 # paul what was that you said i needed to do to get a font to work on rockbox 02.53.15 # what converters did i need? 02.54.27 # Fontforge, or something else, to convert from TTF to BDF, then the bdf converting too included in the rockbox sources 02.55.16 # k 02.55.34 # What does it mean when "Dir buffer is full"? 02.56.30 # It means you haven't increased the limit yet, and you've entered a folder with 400+ files in it 02.56.39 # How do I increase the limit? 02.57.00 # nvm i wont be making fonts 02.57.02 # It's in the options somewhere. Under "Limits", under maybe General? 02.57.08 # to install it i have to use cgywin 02.57.18 # general settings > system > limits > max files in dir browser 02.57.25 # and i dont have a very high succsess rate with that program 02.57.54 # Paul_The_Nerd: Got it. Thanks. 02.58.04 Part Paul_The_Nerd 02.58.29 # Craaap. 02.58.41 # Now when I enter that folder, my player freezes. 03.01.27 # Oh crap. 03.01.33 # My player isn't responding. 03.01.38 # I can't shut it off or nothing. 03.01.48 # you'll have to reset 03.01.56 # How? 03.02.02 # h3x0? 03.03.40 # wait 03.03.53 # does rockboy emulate gb or gbc 03.04.04 # BigMac: both 03.04.16 # really 03.04.18 # gbc will probably be slower though 03.04.22 # How do I set the limit so I can view all the files in a directory, but not have the player freeze on me? 03.04.24 # k 03.04.43 # what did you set the limit to? 03.04.53 # I maxed it. 03.05.11 # does anyone have any gameboy roms 03.05.56 # yah thats not a good idea 03.06.05 # set it to something sane like 800 03.09.50 # i cant find plain gb roms anywere:-( 03.11.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.11.57 # what is .sgb? 03.15.44 Quit Malnilion (Nick collision from services.) 03.16.33 # thats a gameboy game that has some special features when played on a suber gameboy(snes) or emulator that supports it 03.16.43 # otherwise it acts like a regular game 03.16.47 Join Malnilion [0] (n=Malnilio@adsl-70-233-254-190.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net) 03.17.21 Quit BHSPitMonkey ("Leaving") 03.17.57 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@adsl-67-64-112-176.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 03.19.15 # so will it work in rockboy? 03.19.53 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Client Quit) 03.20.00 # I think so, just rename it to .gb 03.20.53 # any dev interested in helping me track down two bugs in the blackjack code 03.21.21 # i would but im not a dev 03.22.09 # anyone remember the name of that nes game with the two people on balloons and you try to pop eachothers baloons 03.22.13 # i cant remember it 03.22.16 # ballon fight? 03.22.42 # yes 03.22.47 # that is the game 03.23.55 Quit gromit` ("Coyote finally caught me") 03.25.46 Quit scorche (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.26.59 # any devs here? 03.27.27 Join Paul_The_Nerd [0] (n=Paul_The@cpe-70-112-165-230.austin.res.rr.com) 03.27.37 # Paul_The_Nerd: are you a dev/ 03.28.22 # Hm. I thought you'd already asked me that. 03.28.24 # Nope. 03.29.37 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@adsl-67-64-112-176.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 03.30.35 # sorry 03.30.58 # wow 03.31.05 # what is the point of rockboy 03.31.20 # there isnt enough buttons for everything 03.31.54 # other targets have enough buttons... 03.32.26 # what? 03.32.33 # earHertz: It's nothing to be sorry 'bout. It's a very common question is all, so I tend to assume I've been asked already. 03.32.41 # you cant use 2 of the buttons 03.32.49 # BigMac: Other Rockbox-able players have more than enough buttons. 03.32.55 # oh 03.33.01 # got it 03.33.17 # well that kinda sucks but what ever 03.33.29 # who needs start and select anyway 03.33.32 # It only sucks because you bought a player without enough buttons. 03.33.52 # i didnt buy it for games. 03.34.03 # if i wanted games id have mot a psp 03.34.11 # bought 03.34.39 # Yup. I play gameboy games on a gameboy 03.34.55 # yah i just wanted to test it out 03.37.56 # does rockboy play gbc files? 03.38.00 Quit hardeep ("BitchX: now Y2K compatible!") 03.38.02 # Yes 03.38.04 # the h300 is great for rockboy, excpe tht ebuttongs kill your fingers after a while 03.38.24 # yah i have a 5g 03.38.39 # ye, i wouldnt think the ipod layout would be good for rockboy 03.38.51 # the h100 is worse tho 03.39.18 # ok and the directory for the roms is drive:games/gameboy/xyz.gb 03.39.28 # It's anywhere you want 'em 03.39.31 # and that is all i need to dl 03.39.34 # oh 03.41.02 # lol 03.41.09 # bubble bobble is out 03.41.15 # i need to pres start 03.42.19 # What I need to to is port mozilla's mouse-gestures over for the ipod, that would replace the missing buttons! 03.43.17 # Hahaha 03.43.24 # Well iBoy has a good scheme. 03.43.31 # I even think there's a patch that enables it for Rockboy. 03.43.33 # not for the ipod 03.43.48 # BigMac: iBoy has a great scheme for the iPod. Have you tried it? 03.43.55 # yes 03.44.00 # i just tried it 03.44.00 # The one from iPodLinux? 03.44.05 # oh no 03.44.09 # iBoy, NOT Rockboy 03.44.23 # why cant someone make them both have the same controls 03.44.40 # * Paul_The_Nerd points to the place where he used their names separately clearly indicating they are two distinct things, AND the fact that there's a patch that implements iBoy's controls for Rockboy. 03.44.56 # there is? 03.45.02 # I believe so. 03.45.22 # rockboy has configurable keys anyway 03.45.41 # yah but it is buggy 03.45.42 # JdGordon: Configurable keys don't help much when you only have 5 buttons. 03.46.33 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/index.php?tasks=&project=1&string=rockboy&type=4&sev=&due=&dev=&cat=&status=&date=0 which one 4857 or 5424 03.47.03 # Paul_The_Nerd: anything happening with the forum rearanging and the new groups? 03.47.53 # JdGordon: I'm waiting to see if Jeff ever responds to my email about a few things. 03.48.05 # *patch 03.48.08 # BigMac: I don't know. Try one and find out, or read the descriptions. 03.48.46 # ah ok 03.49.20 # * JdGordon wonders why MR is hosting the forums and not the same servers as rockbox.org 03.49.44 # Because Jeff offered to, if I understand. 03.50.07 # I still haven't found a good way to contact him. I emailed jeff@misticriver.net, because that's what their site told me to email to, but I think he may not read that. 03.50.56 # patients.. its prob filled with spam seen as its linked on the MR site, also he comes on here every so often i think 03.51.18 # pm on the forums maybe? 03.51.26 # anyway, im off 03.51.39 # If I don't get a response by monday, I'll try alternative means of communication, yeah. 03.52.23 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5285.0 03.55.33 # what does speech support do? 03.55.41 # It reads the menus to you. 03.55.49 # Well, when it's working well, it does. 03.56.03 # I have Paul_The_Nerd's voice to read my menus 03.56.06 Join wehn_ [0] (n=wehn@ppp110-219.lns2.bne3.internode.on.net) 03.56.39 # earHertz: Is there any time Headbytes is not equal to 1? That's a very long list. 03.56.39 Join Harry [0] (n=getlaid@CPE00045a78ee3c-CM000f9f7d5f54.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 03.56.41 # yo 03.56.43 # does rockbox 03.56.48 # support pdf viewing 03.57.04 # No 03.57.07 # dam 03.57.14 # so jpegs 03.57.16 # and audio 03.57.18 # thats all 03.57.25 # So far. 03.57.27 # And text files 03.57.31 # hmm 03.57.38 # It *is* an Audio Player. 03.57.39 # paul convert the munaul into text for me 03.57.42 # :) 03.57.49 # Paul_The_Nerd: I don';t see one, but I only have 4000 lines of logf, and all got filled 03.57.54 # Actually, it's in Latex in the sources, so you can have it convert to a lot of formats. 03.57.58 # yo 03.58.00 # so if your visually impared? 03.58.00 # (I upped it from the standard 1000) 03.58.05 # anyoen want cucusoft ipod converter 03.58.06 # BigMac: Primarily, yes. 03.58.06 # full 03.58.21 # i like videora 03.58.23 # free 03.58.28 # cucsoft 03.58.31 # Harry: That's commercial software. 03.58.36 # converts a full mvoie in 20-30 mintues 03.58.44 # so does videora 03.58.51 # paul u have to pay for cucosft full 03.58.58 # i can give u full cracked verison 03.58.59 # bigmac 03.59.06 # no videora take as long as the movie 03.59.13 # nope 03.59.13 # Harry: we're not intrested in warez here 03.59.14 # Harry: That's what I'm talking about. DO NOT DISCUSS CRACKED OR ILLEGAL SOFTWARE HERE> 03.59.15 # Period 03.59.20 # o 03.59.21 # srrrry 03.59.33 # paul can u link me to the txt rockbox manul 03.59.50 # you could look on the site mate 03.59.57 # Harry: I told you, it's LaTeX in the sources, which can probably be easily converted to text. I don't think there's a .txt of it. 04.00.07 # wtfs latex 04.00.21 Join niskel [0] (n=niskel@Ottawa-HSE-ppp264914.sympatico.ca) 04.00.25 # Harry: http://www.latex-project.org/ 04.00.44 # quick Q: Is it intensional that "bookmark on stop" only bookmarks if you stop from the WPS screen, not from filetree? 04.01.00 # paul link me to the latex version 04.01.45 # Paul_The_Nerd: we should have an html mamnual 04.01.55 # Harry: As I said, it's in the sources. Download the source archive. 04.02.04 # wehn_: Probably a bug. 04.02.34 # Paul_The_Nerd: shall I add it? 04.02.37 # earHertz: There's a wiki manual, but the wiki's down. A HTML manual might be nice, as well as a simple HTML viewing plugin to make it fun to read. 04.02.53 # wehn_: Probably a good idea. 04.03.22 # yo 04.03.27 # i converted the pdf manul to txt 04.03.30 # if anyone wants it 04.03.42 # you shpould put it in the daily rockbox build 04.03.47 # so people read it 04.04.06 # paul 04.04.10 # how do i view txt 04.04.10 # Harry can you host it and provide a link? 04.04.14 # one sec 04.04.46 # Why should a text version of the manual be in the dailies, if the pdf is available from the daily build page? 04.04.46 Join joshua_ [0] (i=joshua@c-24-60-144-77.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 04.04.50 # http://www.sendspace.com/file/ten9n4 04.04.51 # http://www.sendspace.com/file/ten9n4 04.04.52 # It's not something people should have to download more than once. 04.04.56 # paul 04.05.03 # cause then epople can view on the rockbox 04.05.14 # he does have a point 04.05.20 # http://www.sendspace.com/file/ten9n4 <--------------- txt 04.05.22 # no images 04.05.32 # paul its on the go manul 04.05.33 # jsu tincase 04.05.56 # yo i created a ipod ico 04.06.02 # to show up in my computer 04.06.07 # as a utorun 04.06.24 # the one I use for an autorun probably looks better 04.06.30 # show me 04.06.32 # I don't think it's really that necessary or useful to have a manual on the iPod or player. 04.06.39 # Most people who know about the manual, have already looked stuff up in it. 04.06.41 # paul it is 04.06.43 # on the go 04.06.51 # and people will see it mroe 04.06.56 # cause it will be in ther root 04.07.08 # bhs 04.07.10 # bhsp 04.07.13 # can u me ur icon 04.07.18 # wats ur aim 04.07.25 # Harry: Please, can you try to use whole words? 04.07.31 # lol 04.07.34 # wait i can view txt files on my pod? 04.07.38 # It's TWO more letters, and it helps for people who have to use translation software. 04.07.43 # Harry: what's your native langauge? 04.07.44 # big mac thorw rockbox 04.08.07 # ear indian first then english then french 04.08.32 # Did I miss the secret? Why is the manual in PDF? 04.08.45 # S0ap: Because LaTeX likes being converted to PDF? 04.08.49 # to shwo images 04.09.16 # There are automated converters from LaTeX->HTML as well as I'm sure TXT, so it could be added into the build process to create a manual to include easily from the format we have. 04.09.22 # is the original latex in the CVS you say? 04.09.40 # Much easier to read HTML on my palmpilot. 04.09.51 # S0ap: Indeed it is, in the manual module. In fact with any build target, you can choose (M)anual instead of (N)ormal to make it if you have the packages installed 04.10.53 # ok i opened the text and now i have a black screen 04.10.55 # on my pod 04.10.56 # To make the PDF one rather 04.11.14 # i donno paul said it supports txt 04.11.31 # well it doesn't 04.11.36 # It does. 04.11.39 # how 04.11.43 # You click on a .txt file 04.11.44 # That's it. 04.11.50 # then how come bigs 04.11.55 # But it could be that his background and foreground colors are both black 04.11.57 # it does not support a file that large then 04.12.03 # then how come bigs came out ina blacks creen 04.12.29 # I think there is a limit on text file size, but I think it's more than 226k 04.12.45 # well it didnt load 04.12.50 Quit Daishi ("Client exiting...") 04.12.53 # the screen went black 04.13.43 # maybe it is one of the 15 patches of your custom build... 04.14.01 # lol 04.14.07 # soap try tit on ures 04.14.07 # idk could be 04.14.09 # it* 04.14.18 # yes 04.14.24 # yo how do i change the fonts colour 04.14.36 # harry 04.14.48 # yah 04.14.55 # why do you say yo so often? 04.15.00 # lol 04.15.01 # i donno 04.15.02 # it is wierd 04.15.02 # habit 04.15.09 # okay how do i change fotns colour 04.15.22 # Looks like the file is too big. 04.15.27 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp154-172.adsl.forthnet.gr) 04.15.38 # Harry: general settings | displat | lcd 04.15.48 # last thing I'll say before going to bed, BigMac - you might want to consider installing a stock daily build until you are comfortable with what-is-what, it will not only help people help you, but it will hasten _your_ learning process. 04.16.16 # i like j blackglass 04.16.25 # and the doom scroll patch 04.16.31 # and i cant patch myself 04.16.38 # so i dont have many other options 04.16.54 # for you don't know if you are chasing a problem with your usage, a patch, or rockbox. Switching to a daily can eliminate one of those variables, making the math much easier. 04.17.26 # well we found out my pod is fine the text was just to big 04.17.43 # Actually no 04.17.44 # The text is fine 04.17.45 # Not too big 04.17.50 # It starts with whitespace. 04.17.55 # So it triggers the whitespace bug. 04.17.58 # Paul_The_Nerd Looks like the file is too big. 04.18.06 # Yes, but I was WRONG when I said that. 04.18.07 # It happens 04.18.10 # ws bug? 04.18.14 # I investigated further, and found the real problem 04.18.26 # so what do we need to do to fix it/ 04.18.37 # earHertz: The text viewer doesn't work with files that start with whitespace for some reason. It *may* have been fixed in the newest CVS, I seem to recall something. Mine's a couple days old 04.18.57 # lol 04.19.02 # Nope, it's not fixed 04.19.05 Quit TeaSea ("Leaving") 04.19.10 # Just checked the changelog, no recent changes to viewer.c 04.19.15 # it doesnt start with whitepace though... 04.19.21 # BigMac: Yes, it does. 04.19.32 # you mean the indent? 04.19.36 # Yes. 04.19.57 # so if we unindent it it will work? 04.19.58 # space, tab, linefeed vertical tab 04.20.13 # BigMac: Yes, if the first letter of the whole document is an actual letter or number, it'll be fine. 04.20.16 # BigMac: just nmake sure it sharts with a character 04.21.10 # anyone else digging on the tower of power 04.21.42 # I zipped up 04.21.51 # so stop looking 04.22.30 # sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet 04.22.35 # looks nice 04.22.48 # i have a black background and white text 04.23.18 # this will be handy for using guides 04.23.32 # is their a way to go from ebook to .txt 04.25.09 # BigMac depends on teh ebook format 04.25.38 # pdf 04.27.10 # i just copied and pasted everything 04.27.56 # the program to convert .lit files to HTML and CSS is called clit. 04.28.05 # lmaooooo 04.28.22 Join BHSPitMonkey_ [0] (n=stephen@adsl-68-95-247-205.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 04.28.40 # ok i know have the anarchists cookbook on my pod 04.29.12 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Nick collision from services.) 04.29.18 Nick BHSPitMonkey_ is now known as BHSPitMonkey (n=stephen@adsl-68-95-247-205.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 04.29.47 # are .txt the only readable file formats 04.29.51 # what about html 04.30.25 # if your brain can do the markup... 04.31.32 # what do you mean coding a reader or making a html document? 04.32.20 # He means that HTML is just TXT with tokens in it. 04.32.45 # If you just imagine that
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Rockbox is a product that works for people who are blind, and nutcases like the one who hacked your website last week really ruin all the fun for everybody 05.56.38 NHeal (timeout) kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 05.56.50 # I am a totally blind computer user 05.57.34 # not a nutcase. a spammer 05.57.41 Join _apo_ [0] (n=r00t@dslb-084-057-092-020.pools.arcor-ip.net) 05.57.45 # they're just as bad 05.57.46 Join Landus [0] (i=Landus@70-100-181-192.dsl1-erie.roc.ny.frontiernet.net) 05.57.53 # yeah 05.57.54 # a spamming nutcase 05.58.00 # so you use the voice menus? 05.58.05 Join actionshrimp [0] (n=nn@host86-142-223-145.range86-142.btcentralplus.com) 05.58.05 Join mordov [0] (n=mordov@24.80-202-238.nextgentel.com) 05.58.15 # Not yet, I need an ipod to try it out on 05.58.35 Join Mikachu [0] (i=Mikachu@kr-lun-154-152-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com) 05.58.37 # I have a creative muvo fm mp3 player 05.58.45 # unfortunately rockbox won't work with that 05.58.45 # oh 05.59.29 # anyways, I have to leave you guys for a while. I'll cya in an hour or so 05.59.30 # yeah. it works with ipods, although not as well as it could 05.59.33 # i had a creative muvo once... accidentally washed it, worked as a usb drive for a few weeks after that. 05.59.49 # cya guys 05.59.52 # sharpe: you wash? 05.59.53 # talk to ya later 05.59.54 # goodbye 05.59.55 # cya 05.59.58 Quit I_stephen () 06.00.14 # earHertz: ... 06.00.21 # sharpe: ? 06.00.44 # it was washed along with clothes 06.01.01 # you're not a real hacker 06.01.12 # i never claimed to be. :D 06.01.28 Join Jungti1234 [0] (n=jungti12@125.188.3.39) 06.02.40 # hello 06.02.48 # hello 06.02.52 # hello 06.02.56 # anyone have iPod? 06.03.01 # yes. 06.03.02 # me 06.03.09 # I have question 06.03.16 # we've an answer. 06.03.54 # yeah, in the future, just ask 06.03.59 # If use Rockbox, can't I listen to music by Apple OS? 06.04.15 # yes, you can. 06.04.16 # you can boot into apple or rockbox 06.04.18 # Rockbox on iPod dual boots just like on iRiver. 06.04.28 # nono I mean.. 06.04.42 # you mean itunes music? not if it has drm 06.04.53 # you can use tagcache to index the music itunes places on thine ipod. 06.05.15 # Music from the iTunes store will not work, and is unlikely to ever work. Other music you use iTunes to rip or encode will work. 06.06.00 # Paul_The_Nerd: if it's drm'd. I have podcasts tat are mp3 format. i got them via the itunes store, but they're free 06.06.12 # Music don't saw. 06.06.29 # earHertz: but they're just downloaded via itunes. 06.06.38 # sharpe: yes 06.06.45 # There is no music in list. 06.06.55 # earHertz: Hm. I suppose I should've said "purchased" from the iTunes store. 06.07.08 # Paul_The_Nerd: yeah. 06.07.33 # Jungti1234: you're running rockbox, and don't see your music? 06.07.38 # I still think someone extremely bored should make a FairPlay codec, just for playback (no saving of decoded files) 06.08.19 # hah, i'm at the extremely bored part. 06.08.31 # no, in iPod 06.08.34 # ah, Apple OS 06.08.35 # sharpe: you a coder? 06.08.51 # earHertz: i do some.. yes... 06.08.57 # Jungti1234: Well, this is not the right place to ask questions about AppleOS. But... are you using iTunes to transfer the music to it? 06.09.08 # iTunes 06.09.16 # hey 06.09.23 # Jungti1234: run tagcache 06.09.35 # But, it worked well before use Rockbox. 06.10.07 # ahh, have onec more problem. 06.10.10 # earHertz: He's in Retail 06.10.25 # Jungti1234: The newest Apple firmware has a change that causes songs not to show up if you have Rockbox installed. 06.10.36 # Look that song title is 'Untagged'. 06.10.54 # but It has ID3Tag. 06.11.07 # Jungti1234: I just told you, it's an issue in the retail firmware. 06.11.15 # Paul_The_Nerd: wtf? 06.11.23 # Apple's problem? 06.11.30 # For some reason the newest version doesn't show songs properly after users install Rockbox 06.11.40 # Older versions worked fine, but the most recent firmware update doesn't. 06.11.49 # in the retail os they don't show up? 06.11.55 # hmm 06.11.55 # Yup 06.11.58 # OK paul 06.12.02 # thanks... :) 06.12.17 # I upgraded firmware, flashed Rockbox, synced the songs over with iTunes, they did not show up 06.12.19 # tag, music all? 06.12.22 # I restored bootpartition.bin, the songs showed up. 06.12.50 # The bootpartition contained the new firmware, but of course no rockbox, and was *before* I synced the songs, so nothing goes on in the firmware partition when syncing to register songs or anything 06.13.01 # It could very well be Apple saying "We aren't playing ball any more." 06.13.14 # Music doesn't look in Apple firmware. 06.13.15 # ID3 Tag doesn't look in Rockbox. 06.13.42 # Are all two Apple's problem? 06.14.07 # If the ID3 tags aren't showing up in Rockbox you should make sure the files are validly tagged 06.15.00 # Paul_The_Nerd: DO IT AGAIN, BUT remove rockbox.ipod and rename .rockbox to something else 06.16.12 # Doing it sah! 06.17.12 # what is 'validly tagged' 06.17.13 # ? 06.17.26 # earHertz: Still nothing. Having our bootloader in the boot partition keeps songs from showing up for some reason 06.17.30 # Jungti1234: means has teh correct tags 06.17.32 # Jungti1234: The tags are correct. 06.18.00 # Paul_The_Nerd: hmm 06.18.09 # thanks gor checking 06.18.39 # I thought the image created even keeps the ipod firmware in the same place, doesn't it? Or am I mistaken on that one? 06.18.43 # that tag seem well in H300. 06.19.03 # maybe it's only iPod problems... 06.19.07 # well, it displaces teh retailos oss bootloader 06.19.09 # Jungti1234: Try copying the same files by dragging them over, and see if the tags are okay in Rockbox 06.20.16 Join scorche [0] (i=ScorchE@c-24-126-24-43.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 06.20.32 # earHertz: Well, I'm always up for experimenting if you have ideas later. 's a lot of what I do around here. :) 06.20.53 # well, it really doesn't matter if it's intentional or not 06.21.13 # either way it screws things up 06.21.43 # Yup 06.21.53 # I wonder if the firmware expects some magic from their bootloader or something. 06.22.49 # hmm... 06.23.08 # Paul_The_Nerd: or just calculates a checksum 06.23.32 # Each firmware version would then come with a checksum for its own bootloader. =/ 06.23.47 # yup 06.24.36 # That could prove frustrating for the people who still use it. 06.24.49 # and for newbies to use rockbox 06.24.59 # For newbies? 06.25.16 # anyone who has upgraded to the neww retailos 06.25.22 # YUeah 06.25.39 # will have to choose between rockbox or apple 06.25.43 # I don't know which iPods it affects yet, beyond Nano 06.25.45 # no more dual booting 06.25.51 # i just realized, i was going to write a tutorial on upgrading the apple firmware without reinstalling the bootloader, but never got around to it. 06.25.56 # Fortunately Nano has no real argument for just using RB except battery life 06.27.05 # If it were a checksum, could we replace the value it compares it to with one appropriate to our bootloader during the ipod_fw merge step? 06.27.22 # i believe so. 06.28.11 # well, perhaps 06.28.30 # unless it were somehow... encrypted... 06.28.36 # depends on how sneaky apple wants to be 06.28.37 # which wouldn't make much sense. 06.28.45 # encrypting a checksum... 06.29.05 # Yeah, or it could all just be a minor side effect of some sort. 06.29.15 # indeed 06.29.17 # Could a significant change in size in the Apple FW affect things negatively? 06.29.48 # i don't see why it would, but that's just me. 06.30.30 # Because they did add all that Nike stuff. 06.30.37 # huh? 06.30.43 # maybe it's really nike against rockbox. :) 06.31.17 # The Apple_os.bin is like, 5,400k, which is more than I remember the old one being. 06.31.19 # I think 06.31.30 # nike? 06.31.33 # Yup 06.31.40 # wtf? 06.31.46 # It's a sensor that goes in shoes. 06.31.48 # the ipod to shoe communication. 06.31.53 # And lets you use the iPod to keep track of workouts 06.32.01 # wha? 06.32.07 # It even has a Power Song feature, where you pick a song, and when it thinks you're getting tired, that song kicks in. 06.32.14 # you conn4enect your shoes to the ipod? 06.32.18 # Wirelessly 06.32.20 # One shoe 06.32.31 # oh for christ';s sake 06.32.43 # It's a sensor that certain Nike shoes have a pocket for. 06.32.46 # under the heel 06.32.59 # Or you could modify a normal shoe for it, so you don't have to spend $100 on new shoes just for your iPod. 06.33.22 Quit JoeBorn ("open.neurostechnology.com") 06.33.26 # or you could stick teh sensor up you ass, and chamge songs by clenching youre sphincter 06.33.26 # it sounds so funny, "spend $100 on new shoes just for your ipod." 06.34.25 # earHertz: Don't say such things. There's probably a market... 06.34.32 # yah 06.35.08 # and what you just said is now, permanently in the logs. 06.35.45 # I didn't know there are logs of this channel in like, several other places too. 06.36.01 # other places? 06.36.42 # like my computer? =P 06.36.54 # I did a google for some phrase I knew was in the logs, and forgot to include site:www.rockbox.org, and ended up getting logs of our channel at two or three websites besides Rockbox. 06.37.05 # like? 06.37.17 # i just realized. i could now implement malloc()/free() in my kernel design... because i've virtual memory correctly working... 06.37.25 # scorche: DHS 06.37.38 # davis high school? 06.37.46 # scorche: yes. 06.37.48 # homelansd seciurity 06.38.43 # why would they want our logs? 06.38.57 # open sorce == terriorists 06.39.14 # Clearly! 06.39.15 # >_> 06.39.20 # it must be true! 06.40.17 # Once we figure out the iPod USB code, we can set up a hidden distributed computing system with them, and harness the power of iPod users to break encryption, them sending analyzed packets back to us every time they sync! Muahahaha! And other villainous things! 06.40.34 # Paul_The_Nerd: distributed.net client for ipods. :) 06.41.08 # ok...i just went back into the logs and found a phrase....searched and rockbox.org was the only site that came up 06.41.44 # * Paul_The_Nerd shrugs. 06.41.52 # This was about a month and a half ago. 06.42.44 # chose one from middle of may and same thing 06.43.05 # Fair enough 06.43.16 # http://www.irclogs.ws/freenode/rockbox/18Nov2005/2.html 06.43.26 # There's one of 'em 06.43.34 # ha...nov 05 06.44.00 # wtf?....did they mix up the names or something? 06.44.03 # Yup 06.44.09 # All the places I saw had scrambled names 06.46.42 # anyplace I can find free audio books 06.47.05 # google? 06.47.11 # Project Gutenberg has some right? 06.47.14 # * earHertz smacks sharpe 06.47.15 # yep 06.47.29 # yeah, but read...by..ttts... softw ware 06.47.36 # earHertz: http://www.gutenberg.org/browse/categories/1 06.47.38 # Human read 06.47.49 # reallly??? 06.47.52 # Yessir 06.47.59 # Not terribly many 06.48.01 # thanks! 06.49.02 # no 06.49.56 # No? 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08.02.13 # Harry first of all, rockbox 3.0 isn't ready yet 08.02.14 Quit Harry (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.02.20 # huh 08.02.34 # impatience.. 08.02.38 Join midgey34 [0] (n=TJ@c-71-205-31-207.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 08.02.45 Join scorche [0] (i=ScorchE@c-24-126-24-43.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 08.02.46 # yep 08.16.04 # Hmm, no Paul_the_Nerd ... 08.19.35 # maybe he's sleeping? 08.21.35 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@c-24-16-191-240.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 08.22.01 Quit midkay (Nick collision from services.) 08.22.03 Nick midkay_ is now known as midkay (n=midkay@c-24-16-191-240.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 08.26.12 # wow ... my Rockbox dir is 3.8GB .. 08.26.41 # i'm hoping not on your player. 08.27.07 Quit MrStaticVoid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.27.19 # no, the dev dir on my PC + all crosscompilers 08.27.35 # oh. in that case. 08.28.22 # 0.98Gb. 08.30.17 # 1.14 GiB, but I'm sure I could clean that up 08.30.19 Join MrStaticVoid [0] (n=jlee@stealth.thestaticvoid.org) 08.32.22 Join scorche` [0] (i=ScorchE@c-24-126-24-43.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 08.33.12 Join ender` [0] (i=null@84.52.165.220) 08.34.10 Quit scorche (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.35.18 Quit dongs (Remote closed the connection) 08.35.23 Join dongs [0] (n=HPUX@i249218.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) 08.37.00 # gah; i forgot, can you preform pointer arithmetic on void pointers without casting them? 08.37.41 # i think the compiler must know how much to advance the address .. so i suppose no, u can't 08.37.41 # In gcc you can 08.38.18 # It's a gcc extension; void pointers behave like char pointers for pointer arithmetic, i.e. offsets are in bytes 08.38.24 # ah. 08.38.30 # oh well, i'll just play it safe anyway. 08.38.46 # sharpe what r u working on ? 08.39.14 # malloc/free implementation in a operating system kernel i've decided to work on. 08.42.57 # bah 08.43.07 # * midgey34 becomes upset with blackjack code 08.50.48 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3053.gwdg.de) 08.51.41 Quit uski (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.56.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.58.21 Quit wehn_ () 08.58.27 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 09.01.45 Join mikearthur [0] (n=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 09.01.45 Join saratoga [0] (n=80c4c198@labb.contactor.se) 09.02.15 # is there a mirror for the X5 bootloader somewhere? 09.02.20 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@labb.contactor.se) 09.02.22 # my friend is bugging me for it 09.03.32 # this? http://daniel.haxx.se/twiki/IaudioBoot/ 09.03.55 # http://daniel.haxx.se/twiki/IaudioBoot/ 09.03.57 # :-) 09.06.10 # if any coder would like to take a look at my blackjack code, I'd appreciate some criticism, comments, or help solving my two remaining bugs 09.06.22 # the zip file is at http://www.savefile.com/files.php?fid=8854307 09.06.46 # but I'm going to sleep, I'll read the logs when I get up 09.09.17 # and what are your 2 remaining bugs ? 09.10.21 # 1. when split 2 has more than 4 cards it looks up 09.10.31 # 2. dealer cards are drawn instead of split 2 cards 09.11.02 # those comments make sense? 09.12.08 # not really, since i don't know the rest of the code :-) 09.13.01 Join |Lupin| [0] (n=Lupin@4aa54-2-89-80-51-65.dsl.club-internet.fr) 09.13.23 # basically they occur when splitting. if the second hand of a split has more than 4, it locks up 09.13.45 Quit dongs (Remote closed the connection) 09.13.50 # <|Lupin|> Hi, there. 09.13.53 # hmm, i think i will not use checksums in the runtimedb/tagcache. Instead changelog files would contain original tags (filename, artist etc.) and modified ones. That way renaming files or changing some tags, it would be posible to match other unchanged tags and find the correct entry 09.14.07 Join dongs [0] (n=HPUX@i249218.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) 09.14.10 # and that can be done automatically when there is just a single match 09.14.17 # otherwise, the dealer's cards are drawn in place of the second hand of the split when the final output is displayed 09.16.33 Join petur [0] (n=d4efd6a6@labb.contactor.se) 09.16.50 Quit psi () 09.25.03 Join San||Away [0] (n=San@A-79-72.cust.iol.ie) 09.26.47 Quit dongs (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.26.48 Join dongs [0] (n=HPUX@i249218.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) 09.29.17 Part |Lupin| 09.35.09 Quit midgey34 ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") 09.42.42 Quit San (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.45.54 # does formatting the iaudio remove rockbox like it does on the ipod? or does it actually flash stuff 09.46.11 # it does on almost all targets 09.46.44 # only a bootloader gets flashed, the rest is on disk for easy upgrading 09.48.35 # ok, the wiki is back up, let's hope i didn't miss anything 09.48.37 # has anyone else had the problem that after plugging in the ipod via usb i lose all my settings in rockbox including my theme selection? 09.48.51 # hooray for LinusN ;) 09.49.12 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 09.49.42 # elljay: settings are only saved during normal shutdown, so after changing, shutdown 09.49.43 # elljay: rockbox doesn't save the settings until you shut it off 09.50.02 # ahh, good to know 09.50.04 # thanks guys 09.50.32 # in fact, it might be a good idea for rockbox to save the settings before entering usb mode, on the ipod 09.51.17 # well that's what i wasnt figuring out becaue if i wasnt sitting infront of my pc 09.51.32 # adding music, doing changes waddin more music usbing again 09.51.35 # i never would have noticed it 09.51.40 # because in the car i shut it down before i get out 09.53.48 Join tofuSCHNITZEL [0] (n=51bd0c22@labb.contactor.se) 09.55.01 Quit pihlopase ("leaving") 09.55.21 Join gromit` [0] (n=gromit@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 09.56.37 # well. i suppose i have the malloc working. 09.56.49 # wee, it's july 14, vive la france! 09.57.06 # isnt that the 24th? 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10.27.22 # uname -a ? 10.27.29 # cpuinfo didn't make it clear 10.27.42 # zcat /proc/config.gz 10.28.13 # yep, just to suggest it 10.28.35 # i don't have a proc/config.gz 10.29.00 # did you compile the kernel yourself ? 10.29.12 # no, it came with ubuntu 6.06 10.29.46 # hm, what about the lilo/grub choices? 10.29.50 # the install was amazingly screwed up though due to my laptop 10.30.23 # uname -a says i have kernel 2.6.15-26-386 10.30.32 # does that sound correct 10.30.40 # anything SMP ? 10.31.00 # nope 10.31.05 # i guess its wrong then 10.31.06 # okay, r u running it on a computer with 2 CPU cores ? 10.31.10 # yeah 10.31.11 Quit dongs (Remote closed the connection) 10.31.11 # yonah 10.31.14 Join dongs [0] (n=HPUX@i249218.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) 10.31.22 # and there's only one cpu in /proc/cpuinfo ? 10.31.38 # oh 10.31.40 # yes there is 10.31.45 # so that clears it up 10.31.52 # then i'm pretty sure it's not SMP 10.34.59 # yeah 10.35.00 Quit _Veseliq_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.35.15 # looks like i can install an SMP kernel via Synaptic pretty easy though 10.39.03 Quit scorche (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.39.05 Join scorche [0] (i=ScorchE@c-24-126-24-43.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 10.40.17 Join scorche` [0] (n=ScorchE@c-24-126-24-43.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 10.40.18 Quit scorche (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.41.36 # should i be using binutils 2.16 or 2.16.1? or does it not matter 10.45.46 Quit mikearthur ("Konversation terminated!") 10.56.32 Join lodesi [0] (n=lds@d04m-89-83-97-62.d4.club-internet.fr) 10.56.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.04.51 Quit dongs (Remote closed the connection) 11.05.36 # oh well. i still haven't fixed my broken malloc()... i fix it when i wake up. 11.05.39 # goodnight everyone. 11.05.40 # saratoga: I recommend 2.16.1, but it doesn't matter much 11.06.01 # i could've sworn i typed "i'll" instead of "i" 11.06.31 # night people. 11.06.34 # nite 11.08.42 Join dongs [0] (n=HPUX@i249218.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) 11.16.19 # You will need rockbox with the Album Art and Scrolling Margins Patches to use this theme. 11.16.31 # are those included in the latest daily build? 11.16.37 # no 11.17.04 # but there are some users in the forums that offer patched builds 11.17.22 # whats the status of Rockbox 3.0 anyway? 11.17.29 # have they nearly finished it? 11.17.57 # 3.0 will be what you see now minus open issues ;) 11.18.14 Quit Mordov|wo (Remote closed the connection) 11.19.30 Join safetydan [0] (n=dan@rockbox/developer/safetydan) 11.20.53 Join _Veseliq_ [0] (n=veseliq@195.85.215.210) 11.20.53 # can you guys come up with something so that i can fire laserbeams out of my iPod ? 11.21.08 # in 3.0 that is 11.21.18 # * lou writes a feature request 11.21.31 # * petur hands lou the prize for the weirdest feature request 11.21.43 # :} 11.22.13 Nick linuxstb__ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 11.22.53 # Anyone awake? 11.24.18 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 11.25.05 # album art 11.25.17 # wht's the defult name for the file? 11.25.50 # cover.bmp (if that's what you mean) 11.25.52 # I believe it looks for various different names. Read the description of the patch in the patch tracker. 11.27.07 # does it support cover.jp? 11.27.11 # or .gif? 11.27.27 # How do I remove everything from my dynamic playlist? 11.27.29 # currenly only .bmp 11.27.54 # Landus: stop playback 11.27.57 # I inserted the folder that has all my music and I don't want it all in the playlist. 11.28.49 Quit dongs (Remote closed the connection) 11.28.50 Join dongs [0] (n=HPUX@i249218.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) 11.33.44 # While a few people are awake.. does everyone put their music in one folder and just hold the down button when looking for a song? 11.33.56 # rofl: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/07/13/zidane_headbutt_outrage/ 11.34.35 # Landus, music/artist/album/01-track.ext is usually how I have my music layed out 11.35.08 # i use: /Musik/Artist/Album/## Title.mp3 11.35.26 # Ah. 11.35.44 # I might do the same, but take out the album. 11.36.16 # Back when I used .mp3 and fixed the VBR header, the ID3 tags got warped. 11.36.38 # I lost alot of the albums, and I've sold a handful of CD's since then. 11.40.21 # Everytime I add a track to the playlist, a small circle icon appears in the top-right for a second, then fades away. 11.40.55 # Is it some kind of symbol to let the user know the player is working"? 11.41.31 # That's the disk activity icon. 11.49.00 Quit eGen_ ("mýdlo konèí ! ... ruèník konèí !") 11.49.01 Join Poka64 [0] (i=peter@hd5e241c0.gavlegardarna.gavle.to) 11.54.08 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-134-160.pools.arcor-ip.net) 11.59.30 # the albun art patch 11.59.40 # album 12.00.00 # what's the size for the graphic? 12.00.03 Join qwm [0] (n=qwm@h229n1fls34o1010.telia.com) 12.00.25 # depends on the wps. 12.00.39 # 100x100/ 12.03.49 # if i'm making a standard cover art image 12.03.53 # what's the standard? 12.04.20 # bmp gif etc 100x100 or 64x64 or will it be resised? 12.04.53 # bmp.. 12.05.08 # is there a standard size? 12.05.13 # you need to resize it yourself to the size the wps expects and save it as .bmp 12.05.25 # elljay, depends on the wps you've chosen 12.05.27 # it all depends on the size the wps wants. 12.05.33 # elljay: If I was you, I would keep the original images (all my album art is around 500x500 JPG), and then batch-resize it to whatever the WPS you are using needs it to be. 12.05.36 # some are 100x100, some are 75x75 12.06.19 # can you guys reccomend a tool for for Windows? 12.06.29 # irfan view 12.06.35 # irfan view 12.07.01 # I'm sure there is a lot of discussion about album art on the misticriver forums. 12.07.51 Join eGen_ [0] (i=generat0@boserver.mudecin.cz) 12.09.32 # amarok in linux grabs images from amazone 12.10.03 # any quick tool lik that? 12.11.18 # maybe you find something here : http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=37400 12.11.51 # I use albumart-qt under Linux, but it works under Windows as well: http://kempele.fi/~skyostil/projects/albumart/ 12.11.53 Join S0ap [0] (n=bob@cpe-65-24-12-223.columbus.res.rr.com) 12.11.57 # But there may be better windows-only tools. 12.13.17 # i used google, propably the worst method. 12.13.46 # so how do you tell by looking at the .wps 75/75 or 100/100? 12.13.54 Quit qwm ("leaving") 12.14.36 # most times the author mentions it in the description of the wps 12.14.49 # Album art? 12.14.59 # Besides it's a patch, what does it do? 12.15.50 # Uh. 12.15.54 # Can anyone change the topic. 12.15.56 # The twiki is back up. 12.18.26 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 12.18.26 Quit petur ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 12.20.45 Quit eGen_ ("mýdlo konèí ! ... ruèník konèí !") 12.27.16 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 12.31.15 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 12.31.15 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 12.33.21 # LinusN: Twiki diff display still doesn't use the rockbox skin, like this: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/rdiff/Main/WebHome?rev1=54;rev2=53 12.33.48 # i know 12.34.13 # and i can't for the life of me understand now the damn twiki templates for the rdiff work 12.36.20 # hah 12.36.36 # i got the album art working 12.40.56 Quit scorche` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.43.56 Join leftright [0] (n=leftrigh@cd4406110.cable.wanadoo.nl) 12.45.28 Part leftright 12.46.16 Quit dongs (Remote closed the connection) 12.46.18 Join dongs [0] (n=HPUX@i249218.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) 12.51.08 Join jd_ [0] (n=jd@wikipedia/Meanos) 12.54.36 Quit dongs (Remote closed the connection) 12.54.38 Join dongs [0] (n=HPUX@i249218.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) 12.55.13 # depressing fact: google for "tramadol rockbox" :-( 12.56.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.57.58 # that's bad 12.58.12 # low life spammer scum 12.58.26 Join lightyear [0] (n=lightyea@p54875702.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.58.33 # welcome to the world wide web 12.58.35 # :) 12.58.37 # haha 12.59.08 # must be plenty of money to be made for that shit 13.00.22 # whoa. 13.00.27 # lots of results for that search.. 13.00.46 Join qwm [0] (n=qwm@h229n1fls34o1010.telia.com) 13.00.51 # * qwm pees all over 13.01.39 # (LinusN) must be plenty of money to be made for that shit 13.01.47 # you would be surprised how much indeed 13.01.48 Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p54931996.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.05.12 Join petur [0] (n=d4efd6a6@labb.contactor.se) 13.08.45 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54966833.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.10.18 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ppp138-198.adsl.forthnet.gr) 13.12.03 Quit safetydan ("Ex-Chat") 13.21.58 Join TeaSea [0] (n=Thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 13.29.03 # vagina. 13.29.06 # penis. 13.29.08 # good night. :> 13.29.49 Join dpassen1 [0] (n=dpassen1@resnet-236-163.resnet.UMBC.EDU) 13.31.52 # the little kid goes to bed early today 13.32.21 # Fri Jul 14 13:32:21 CEST 2006 13.32.23 # i agree 13.32.36 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@dsl-88-218-17-158.customers.vivodi.gr) 13.42.05 Join June`sTragedy [0] (n=Tragic@124.82.16.215) 13.42.22 # has anybody tried any of the remote control patches from Mmmmm? 13.42.45 Part June`sTragedy 13.45.44 Join TCK [0] (i=TCK@81-179-127-64.dsl.pipex.com) 13.45.45 Quit qwm ("leaving") 13.53.29 Quit darkless (Client Quit) 13.55.45 # About the remote... since #4860 has an "ugly" aprroach for the H300 LCD buttons, I was wondering about #5661 (haven't tested yet, though) 13.59.24 Quit lee-qid ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 13.59.27 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp154-172.adsl.forthnet.gr) 13.59.28 # the same thing ... 13.59.43 # #define BOOKMARK_RC_SELECT BUTTON_RC_MENU /* for H1x0 remote */ 13.59.52 # #define BOOKMARK_RC_SELECT2 BUTTON_RC3_MENU /* for H3x0 remote */ 14.00.29 # Bg3r: So both have the same approach? 14.00.53 # afics, yes 14.01.16 # I see.. 14.02.06 Join eGen_ [0] (i=generat0@boserver.mudecin.cz) 14.04.16 # LinusN: I think TiMiD has commented (in the forums) on some of Mmmm's patches. 14.04.29 # ok 14.05.16 # I think the discussion I remember was about the virtual keyboard patch. 14.06.03 Quit eGen_ (Client Quit) 14.23.55 Nick jd_ is now known as jd_away (n=jd@wikipedia/Meanos) 14.32.24 Quit Poka64 (Remote closed the connection) 14.34.15 Join Poka64 [0] (i=peter@hd5e241c0.gavlegardarna.gavle.to) 14.37.20 Nick jd_away is now known as jd_ (n=jd@wikipedia/Meanos) 14.38.16 Join shriphani [0] (n=shriphan@221.134.214.172) 14.38.49 # erm people i put rockbox on my ipod but are the vorbis codecs preinstalled or should i go get them ? 14.39.25 # everything is included 14.39.34 # oh cool 14.39.45 # but how do i sync vorbis to my ipod ? 14.40.11 # i am using ubuntu linux 14.40.12 # just copy them with your favourite filemanager. 14.40.34 # but will the ipod recognise it ? 14.40.45 # cuz i want them in my id3 database 14.41.24 # rockbox will recognize them, the apple firmware will not. 14.41.43 # so i cant see them in my id3 database ? 14.42.45 # do you mean tagcache? 14.42.49 # yes 14.43.32 # if tagcache is set to autoupdate, then they will be added automatically 14.43.49 Join Xerion_ [0] (i=xerion@zorgash.student.utwente.nl) 14.43.53 # ok so can i use gtkpod for syning them ? 14.44.04 # syncing ^ 14.44.25 # that is them vorbis songs 14.44.42 # i have no idea what gtkpod is, but try it and you will see if it works 14.45.15 # i use linux so gtkpod is a reliable ipod client for ipods 14.46.51 Quit Poka64 ("brb") 14.49.00 # shriphani: rockbox doesn't use the ipod db so there's no need to try to add those songs to it (afaik - don't have an ipod) 14.49.38 # but will i see them songs in tagcache ? 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16.26.39 # how can i turn off this behavior? 16.26.53 # jumping forward 10 items or so would be better 16.26.57 # how can you turn it on? :( 16.27.09 # i didnt turn it on ;) 16.27.17 # i want to have that 16.27.22 # didnt know its possible 16.27.53 Join Ribs [0] (n=ribs@riblet.plus.com) 16.28.29 # but it sucks to scroll through 300 artists with a speed of 5 artists/sec because otherwise you jump to the end of the list and have to start a new attempt ;) 16.28.50 Join joche1 [0] (n=jochen@dslc-082-082-088-249.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.30.57 Quit MarcoPolo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.31.23 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-134-160.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.31.45 Part joche1 16.32.24 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 16.32.33 # ok, found it 16.32.54 # general setting - system - ipod wheel ... 16.33.00 # and then adjust the values 16.36.04 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54965FD3.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.38.06 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 16.39.40 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 16.39.48 Quit XavierGr ("One firmware to rule them all!") 16.40.03 Quit MarcoPolo (Client Quit) 16.43.12 Quit petur ("beer time") 16.43.17 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3159.gwdg.de) 16.44.16 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 16.45.08 Quit MarcoPolo (Client Quit) 16.46.45 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 16.47.14 Quit MarcoPolo (Client Quit) 16.48.16 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 16.56.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.08.14 Quit sidolin (Remote closed the connection) 17.16.46 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 17.24.12 Join hardeep [0] (n=hardeep@c-71-202-85-199.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 17.28.11 Join scorche [0] (i=ScorchE@c-24-126-24-43.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 17.28.35 Join breaker [0] (n=breaker@dslb-084-057-014-157.pools.arcor-ip.net) 17.29.54 Quit Sinbios ("If the definition of a klutz is someone who doesn't have eyes on their ass, then yes, I suppose I am a klutz.") 17.36.45 # anyone got the old rockbox dev kit that they can send me? 17.36.55 Nick San||Away is now known as [San] (n=San@A-79-72.cust.iol.ie) 17.39.07 # [San]: Do you mean this? http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cyborgsystems/CS_Main/RockBox/RockBox.htm 17.39.45 # <[San]> yeah 17.39.46 # <[San]> thanks 17.39.57 # <[San]> i didn't know that was still being hosted 17.40.03 # <[San]> ty 17.40.25 # I'm not sure if it still works though... 17.40.43 # <[San]> " the page cannot be found" 17.40.44 # <[San]> :( 17.41.18 # I'm looking at it now... 17.42.06 # Ah, the download link says that. 17.42.16 # <[San]> yup 17.43.18 # <[San]> just last week, I had it on my H300.... and i moved it somewhere thinking I wouldn't need it but now it seems to have disappeared 17.43.18 # <[San]> :( 17.43.44 # A standard cygwin install (using the Rockbox-hosted packages) or vmware would work better anyway. 17.43.53 # And now you have the wiki back.... 17.44.01 # <[San]> i tryed that aswell 17.44.15 # <[San]> but the rockbox-hosted packages are down aswell 17.44.21 # <[San]> oooh, its back up now? 17.44.47 # About 2.5 hours ago. 17.45.19 # <[San]> oh, ok... thanks 17.46.13 # If the Cygwin packages are still unavailable, let LinusN know - but I can't think why they would be unavailable. 17.48.33 # <[San]> works fine 17.51.17 Quit scorche (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.56.25 Quit Kohlrabi ("Quit") 18.02.42 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.10.05 Join shriphani [0] (n=shriphan@221.134.214.172) 18.15.37 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-134-160.pools.arcor-ip.net) 18.19.10 # hmm, initial stats gathering for tagcache integrated runtimedb should be finished soon :) 18.19.26 # still no changelogs or good ways for user to generate smart playlist 18.19.39 Quit mordov (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.22.05 Part shriphani ("Ex-Chat") 18.39.10 Join BigMac [0] (n=dummeska@64-252-101-61.adsl.snet.net) 18.39.22 # hi all 18.39.33 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp154-172.adsl.forthnet.gr) 18.45.08 Quit hardeep ("Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]") 18.45.38 Quit Genre9mp3 ("I don't suffer from Rockbox psychosis. I enjoy every minute of it.") 18.50.31 # is anyone working on a video player for rockbox on an ipod 5g? 18.52.04 # it would be as crude as on any other player, it's not as if we have access to the 5G's special video hardware 18.53.22 # so that's a no? because if it did have a video player there would be no need for anyone to boot in apple os ever again 18.53.35 Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 18.53.43 Join DoubleWhopper [0] (n=54bd559c@labb.contactor.se) 18.54.12 Join shizzi [0] (n=shizzi-n@bzq-88-153-209-191.red.bezeqint.net) 18.54.37 Quit YouCeyE (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.56.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.56.53 # and ipl already has it implemented. and its open source so we could use it. 18.59.13 Quit DoubleWhopper ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 19.04.26 Join james [0] (n=james@c-67-175-35-181.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 19.06.44 Join YouCeyE [0] (n=YouCeyE@unaffiliated/youceye) 19.08.29 # Is their player running smoothly? Did you test it? 19.08.53 # anything is better then nothing 19.09.05 # if it isn't it can be improved 19.09.23 # but otherwise it is some eyecandy for now:-) 19.09.41 Join |apo| [0] (n=r00t@dslb-084-057-087-186.pools.arcor-ip.net) 19.16.54 Quit Ribs ("Leaving") 19.18.36 Join Sinbios [0] (n=Sinbios@toronto-HSE-ppp4012978.sympatico.ca) 19.18.39 # iPL's video is uncompressed 19.19.04 # rockbox would need to play compressed video to completely replace apple os 19.19.29 # and to do that, it would need to understand and utilize the 5G's hardware completely 19.19.51 # im sure id still use it if it was uncompressed video 19.19.59 # like i said any video is better then no video 19.21.18 # a 22-minute tv episode would probably use 5GB as an uncompressed avi. 19.21.41 # and iPL doesn't play video on the 5G, either... just all the other models 19.24.48 # oh ok 19.26.32 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ppp138-198.adsl.forthnet.gr) 19.27.15 Quit _apo_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.30.35 Join mikearthur [0] (n=mike@82-41-205-190.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 19.40.53 # BHSPitMonkey: How do you create a 5GB file on FAT/FAT32? 19.41.01 # The file size limit is 4GB-1 19.42.37 # (and the _reliable_ limit for most applications is 2GB-1) 19.44.47 Join sadeness_ [0] (n=LamersIn@83.239.145.53) 19.50.50 Part sadeness_ ("ÒÁÄÉ ×ÓÅÇÏ Ó×ÑÔÏÇÏ, ÎÅ ÓÍÏÔÒÉÔÅ ÍÏÊ whois!") 19.56.19 Quit mantono (Client Quit) 19.59.43 # ah, initial support for runtimedb works :) 19.59.53 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 20.00.13 # now i created a search option playcount > "0" to tagnavi.config and it works :) 20.01.08 # but only software playback engine has the support at the moment to generate events when tracks are unbuffered.. and even it seems to be little buggy 20.02.24 Join mordov [0] (n=mordov@24.80-202-238.nextgentel.com) 20.02.45 # other data is playtime (total playtime of the track) that is saved in the db. So with playcount and playtime combined, it should be possible to calculate some simple scores 20.03.28 # also lastplayed (probably just an increasing unique number) will be saved later 20.03.41 # nice :) will the new runtimedb also have a manual rating system? 20.04.12 # probably, but that is just some coding to the UI 20.04.24 # at least it is very simple to implement at the engine level (just one more tag) 20.05.32 # lostlogic: playback engine seems not to generate track unbuffer events correctly when stopping the playback 20.08.29 Quit lodesi (Remote closed the connection) 20.08.39 # it seems next thing to do would be to extend tag browser search capabilities (with configurable sorting, limits etc) and add the changelogs to tagcache engine 20.08.43 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 20.09.27 # Slasheri: are you using the audio_set_track_changed_event() ?? 20.10.11 # obo: at the moment just audio_set_track_unbuffer_event() 20.10.37 # iirc, that event worked even when stopping playback with my original playback engine.. but it no longer seems to work 20.10.41 # but i am not sure 20.10.58 # ah, okay. How often does that one trigger events? 20.11.27 # it should trigger only when disk spins up (buffering new tracks) or when stopping playback 20.12.18 # then playback engine should call that event for all tracks discarded from the playback buffer 20.13.07 # and currently archos playback engine doesn't support that event at all :/ 20.13.34 # oh.. i was wrong 20.13.37 # it does support that! :) 20.13.59 # well, then that's great. just need to fix the software playback engine 20.14.14 # "just" ;) 20.14.38 # (and in fact it needs other fixing too, at least those crashes that happens all the time) 20.14.54 # I've written a patch for audioscrobbler support - I guess for it to stand any chance of being committed it will have to be part of the new runtimedb? 20.15.34 # hmm, probably it should use that runtimedb (tagcache interface) 20.15.37 Join lodesi [0] (n=lds@d04m-89-83-97-62.d4.club-internet.fr) 20.15.48 # then it could be even a plugin retrieving the data from tagcache 20.16.43 # yup. One problem I saw when looking at the old runtimedb was that it only logged the number of times a track had been played, not the timestamp for each one 20.16.45 # obo: btw, how did you solve the problem with timestamps on units without rtc? 20.16.49 Join tictric [0] (n=manfred@p54931FA2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.17.43 # someone else wrote a perl script to submit the log file - for targets without RTCs it just uses the track length to count back in time, generating "fake" timestamps 20.17.43 # obo: yep, new db will log lastplayed time too (probably that can be the real time retrieved from rtc on units which have that capability) 20.18.11 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 20.18.20 # Does anyone know why there isn't a h3x0 section on the daily builds page anymore? 20.18.25 # my rockbox installation failed because I cannot get my ipod to boot into rockbox. It just showed an apple support link 20.18.32 # obo: hmm, interestig 20.18.33 # +n 20.19.08 # I also needed to add an extra function to each playback engine to return the amount of the previous track that was played 20.19.08 # is there something known to consider with the current download files? 20.20.10 Quit lodesi (Remote closed the connection) 20.20.10 # Landus: It's on the page when I look 20.20.29 # tictric: what kind of ipod? 20.20.45 # obo: also, is it enough just to know the total count some track has been played and timestamp from the latest playback event? 20.20.57 # obo: 5g, but I think I just found my error. hang on 20.21.26 # Slasheri: no - it needs the timestamp for each track (I also added a cut-down mktime to generate unix timestamps) 20.22.16 # obo: yes, of course. but i meant if the same track has been played multiple times, would it be enough to know the last time only when it has been played? 20.22.33 # because logging multiple playback times for same track would be difficult 20.22.34 # Slasheri: hmm, to make that slightly clearer - it needs the timestamp for each time the track has been played 20.22.52 # hmm, true.. that would be hard to implement with tagcache 20.23.02 # obo: Really? I only see a h1x0 section. 20.23.53 # probably the audioscrobler support should be integrated to the core with or without using the runtimedb data 20.24.44 # well, what I've done does that (just about ;) ) - it's just I can see it not being added... 20.26.02 # Landus: It's there, between iriver H120/140 and ipod color/Photo. 20.26.51 # what image formats does rockbox open? 20.27.38 Join PaulJam_ [0] (n=pauljam@vpn-3001.gwdg.de) 20.28.33 # JPEG. 20.28.37 # whee. 20.29.09 # obo: hmm, in fact i think probably the audioscrobbler support should be separate from tagcache because they need different data. Runtimedb is mainly used for track scoring and audioscrobbler data is not suitable for scoring, but it just contains log of all playback events with timestamp and the track without scoring or anything like that 20.30.07 # yup, adding scoring would break the spec, and I guess you don't really want to use plain-text files either 20.30.59 # true.. when those files get large, searching and statistical calculations would be much harder 20.32.21 # and those files doesn't contain important information about the playback time vs song total length 20.33.16 # yeah. I'll leave my stuff as-is, and see what the feeling is after the thaw 20.33.55 # if you do end up using the changed_event(), I think there is a bug where it doesn't trigger for the first track in a playlist 20.34.14 # (at least on SW devices) 20.34.31 Join Pyromancer [0] (n=Pyromanc@c-24-63-23-114.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 20.34.40 # ah, more bugs :D i don't think i will ever need that event 20.35.02 # ah, it'll keep then :) 20.35.17 Join bluebrother [0] (i=HNG9u0ny@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 20.36.05 Join adiamas [0] (n=chatzill@132pool.staff.iwon.com) 20.36.48 Quit BHSPitMonkey ("Leaving") 20.37.09 # so do we know what happened to the website/wiki that went away? 20.37.28 # it was cracked 20.37.29 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@adsl-68-88-143-67.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 20.37.34 # but it's back now 20.39.53 Join lodesi [0] (n=lds@d04m-89-83-97-62.d4.club-internet.fr) 20.43.09 # ahh.. i was afraid of that 20.44.14 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.45.26 Nick jd_ is now known as jd_miam (n=jd@wikipedia/Meanos) 20.49.06 Quit lodesi (Remote closed the connection) 20.50.27 # lostlogic: if you fix that, probably unbufferent events shouldn't be generated for the last track when playback is stopped, because that could lower the score of a track even if user likes that track 20.50.36 # *ed 20.50.57 Join scorche [0] (n=ScorchE@c-24-126-24-43.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 20.53.03 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@82.193.235.34) 20.53.23 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 20.53.39 Join lodesi [0] (n=lds@d04m-89-83-97-62.d4.club-internet.fr) 20.54.12 # Slasheri: with the runtime DB, will it be possible to do a query that returns ALL files on the player and then play the results shuffled? E.g. playcount >= 0 20.54.31 Quit lodesi (Remote closed the connection) 20.56.28 Join scorche` [0] (n=ScorchE@c-24-126-24-43.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 20.56.28 Quit scorche (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.56.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.56.57 # Febs: yes, that is even possible already (on my test build) 20.57.22 # but more complex sorting (for example sorting using the playcount tag) is not yet possible 20.57.48 # I was just thinking of all of the people who want to be able to shuffle all songs on the player without having to first create a root.m3u playlist. 20.58.14 # Febs: ah, they can already do that with tagcache 20.58.46 # just select one track from the "All tracks" and playlist should be created instantly 21.00.53 # That's cool. I haven't used the tagcache much so I didn't realize it had this functionality. I'll have to put that on my list of things to add to the manual. It seems like a feature that many want. 21.01.03 # * Febs doesn't think it's a big deal to create a root.m3u playlist. 21.01.14 Join pi [0] (n=pi@80-41-221-10.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 21.01.23 # :) 21.01.41 # But if the functionality is there, we might as well let people know about it! 21.07.43 Join lodesi [0] (n=lds@d04m-89-83-97-62.d4.club-internet.fr) 21.13.09 # * goffa hasn't played with tagcache 21.13.20 # i heard it was more taxing on the battery 21.13.30 # so haven't tried it 21.17.56 Nick josh__ is now known as josh_ (i=josh@adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 21.21.49 # not even sure how to turn it on on the h140 21.23.33 # There is an explanation in the manual. 21.23.50 # Although it needs some updating in light of Slasheri's recent improvements. 21.23.56 Quit james ("Leaving") 21.26.10 Quit lodesi ("Parti") 21.26.48 # i just found where to turn it on 21.27.10 # can someone have a look as SF#5660 please/thanks 21.27.22 # it is a simple fix 21.30.53 # damn.. i need to tag most of my colection 21.31.18 Quit XavierGr () 21.31.59 Join Daishi [0] (n=daishi@ool-45703854.dyn.optonline.net) 21.34.06 # goffa: and why is it untagged? hmmm? hmmmmm? 21.35.18 # i always view stuff by filename 21.35.31 # and disable tags on everything :) 21.35.33 # me too, but mine's tagged. 21.35.51 # i'll have to find some prog to tag everything 21.35.55 # linux prog 21.37.32 # if you find a good tagging program for linux, let me know (i haven't found a good replacement for mp3tag yet) 21.38.19 # will do 21.38.31 # i'll have to find one first though :) 21.38.44 # i used one id recommend.. let me see if i can track down the name of it.. one sec 21.40.33 # while i think of it.. linux or windows? 21.41.03 # goffa: what platform? 21.41.38 # linux 21.42.02 # i don't have a windows box anymore 21.42.03 # goffa: many people use easytag on linux, but i don't really like it. 21.42.12 # ok 21.42.17 # how about picard? 21.43.13 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 21.43.47 # goffa i recommed http://www.debain.org/software/cantus/ 21.43.50 # cantus 21.43.53 # i was really happy with it 21.44.05 # cool.. i'll give it a shot 21.44.14 # its no longer in developement.. about a year and a half out 21.44.18 # but i liked it when i was using it 21.44.19 # if not that then picard 21.44.22 Nick jd_miam is now known as jd_ (n=jd@wikipedia/Meanos) 21.45.41 Join webguest84 [0] (n=586cb648@labb.contactor.se) 21.46.28 Quit webguest84 (Client Quit) 21.46.44 Quit Daishi ("Client exiting...") 21.46.45 # i love it how my conversations with people via phones are either extremely short, or extremely long. 21.49.19 # i prefer them to be extremely short :) 21.49.54 # they're either on the order of minutes, or hours. 21.56.21 Join hardeep [0] (n=hardeeps@c-71-202-85-199.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 21.59.18 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.01.06 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 22.01.44 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.01.44 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 22.02.33 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 22.03.12 # hmm... cd crc errors suck... 22.03.56 # brasso 22.06.09 # well, there are many minute scratches on it. 22.08.00 # as long as there are no scratches in the reflective layer...given enough time, and enough effort, Brasso can work wonders. 22.08.13 # :) 22.08.41 # Or you could forget secure mode, rip in burst mode, and manually cut out the snaps and pops caused by the scratches. 22.09.01 # true... 22.09.58 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 22.10.00 # they show up clear as a bell when you view the waveform graphicly, and are only 1 or 2 samples long, so it's not like you are losing /much/ 22.10.17 # not an audio cd. ;) 22.10.24 # oh, nevermind. 22.10.33 # why did you say "true" then? 22.10.56 # no real reason. 22.11.25 # :) 22.11.28 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 22.12.25 # hoorah. wiki. 22.14.53 Join Llorean [0] (n=467473d2@labb.contactor.se) 22.15.30 # bah. time to rework the malloc(). 22.16.05 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@adsl-68-95-244-2.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 22.16.28 Quit spiorf ("Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)") 22.20.51 # Febs: I don't know if I've said it yet, congrats on being made a mod over at our forums. 22.25.56 # its a good day guys 22.26.08 # BigMac: any particular reason? 22.26.14 # i got rockbox set up to my liking and i got a steereo for my ipod 22.26.34 # congrats. 22.26.41 # the only think that urkes me is i cant put on the rockboy patch without messing up my build 22.26.50 # but i can deal without it i guess 22.27.13 # BigMac: what's happening when you patch it? 22.28.00 # nothing i was told that since i have jbuild on i couldnt apply the absoulute positoning patch without messing up/removing jbuild 22.28.01 Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) 22.28.01 # and i like j build alot 22.28.07 # marco 22.28.15 # a. 22.28.16 # h. 22.28.25 # h. 22.28.27 # a. 22.29.25 # sharpe, you mean "what happens when you patch it?" because it's nothing that *is happening*, it's something that happened before that he'll have to live with. 22.30.00 # alright midkay. 22.30.05 # Well, applying absolute positioning won't mess up jbuild so much as require replacing it with a build you make yourself. Not too hard, and you can apply all the patches jbuild uses anyway 22.30.07 # victory. 22.30.14 # * S0ap grows bored of eyecandy after a week and ends up turning it off. 22.30.39 # S0ap: There are people at misticriver who feel having 30 or 40 graphical themes isn't enough, because they switch several times an hour. 22.30.43 # I just don't get it. 22.31.03 # Llorean: they're insecure with their theme. :) 22.31.06 # Of course there are also people who use Rockbox primarily for Doom, so I guess the world is a very nutty place. 22.31.29 # If my ipod had a touchscreen like my palm-pilot, if i used it for more than playing music (like my palm pilot)...I would get more into it. 22.31.45 # I am working on a WPS, but just for sh%^s and giggles. 22.32.04 # S0ap: we don't use hard symbols in here. 22.32.08 # harsh. 22.32.24 # you mean I can spell out sh%^? 22.32.41 # how would you spell out two letters and two symbols? 22.32.58 # now you're being a sarcastic bastard. 22.33.00 # esss, ache, percent, carat. 22.33.38 Quit jd_ (Nick collision from services.) 22.33.42 # maybe a strange codepage or something like that. 22.33.42 Join jd_ [0] (n=jd@wikipedia/Meanos) 22.33.51 Quit Llorean ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.35.52 Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) 22.37.24 Quit scorche` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.41.31 # S0ap: my bad...? :-D 22.53.35 Quit bluebrother ("Leaving") 22.56.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.05.13 Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 23.12.38 Quit floody ("Távozom") 23.14.25 Join breaker2 [0] (n=breaker@dslb-084-057-016-023.pools.arcor-ip.net) 23.14.58 Quit mordov ("www.CNLRacing.com") 23.25.14 Quit earHertz (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.25.58 # nobody's bad. 23.26.03 Join earHertz [0] (n=chatzill@c-24-30-242-135.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 23.26.08 # hello 23.26.20 # S0ap: thanks for the MusicBrainz thing :) 23.27.29 # <|apo|> Yay, wiki :D 23.27.33 # * |apo| dances 23.28.26 # yw dionoea 23.31.10 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host234-0.pool80183.interbusiness.it) 23.32.09 Quit breaker (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.34.17 Join Soap [0] (n=bob@cpe-65-24-12-223.columbus.res.rr.com) 23.34.55 # how do I disconnect my ghost? 23.35.27 # <|apo|> msg nickserv ghost nick pw 23.36.09 Join joe2 [0] (n=YouCeyE@ppp-71-136-105-43.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net) 23.36.49 Join TeaSea [0] (n=Thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 23.37.46 Quit YouCeyE (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.41.34 Quit S0ap (Nick collision from services.) 23.41.59 Nick Soap is now known as S0ap (n=bob@cpe-65-24-12-223.columbus.res.rr.com) 23.46.16 # ty |apo| 23.46.23 # <|apo|> np 23.46.32 Join rotator [0] (n=e@rockbox/developer/rotator) 23.46.57 # <|apo|> Does anybody know of a decent mp3 recorder that won't ask me if I really want to save the file as .? 23.47.18 # <|apo|> Audacity's annoying, and I've only just started voicing my album dirs 23.47.57 Nick |apo| is now known as apo` (n=r00t@dslb-084-057-087-186.pools.arcor-ip.net) 23.48.34 # maybe you could save them as .mp3 and batch rename them afterwards. 23.49.19 # How? They'd all be in different directories... 23.50.25 # apo`: would, very carefully be a sufficient answer? 23.50.45 # >_> 23.50.58 # Not at all, no 23.51.04 # then i've got nothing. 23.52.13 # I wouldn't even mind renaming all mp3s on the iPod, coz they're properly tagged and foobar works great for doing ID3 -> filename ^^ 23.52.25 # If that's what you were trying to tell me 23.52.45 # me? 23.53.10 # Yea 23.53.13 # not at all. 23.53.19 # Okay, then never mind 23.53.26 # alright then. 23.56.16 # apo`: are you on windows or linux? 23.56.28 # win 23.56.32 # But I have cygwin 23.56.40 # well. under cygwin 23.56.47 # i would just create all the files with .mp3 23.56.49 # then 23.57.16 # hmm.. let me get the sed right.. one min :) 23.57.18 Quit Kohlrabi (Nick collision from services.) 23.57.18 Quit Febs ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.57.27 # ^^ 23.57.28 Join Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@dslb-082-083-128-088.pools.arcor-ip.net)